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Speaker 1: It's season eighteen episode, season eighteen episode whatever Derek said
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five or something. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go, all right, here we go Newsy Hits of
Speaker 1: the Week. Cowboys awarded a fifth round convinceatory pick who
Speaker 1: they'll play in the Hall of Fame game on August six,
Speaker 1: and it's the Steelers. Edwarder reporting that he is thinking
Speaker 1: that Amari Cooper is going to get done soon and
Speaker 1: before Dak Prescott, John Machoda and you commenting on the
Speaker 1: fact that Byron is going to get a monster deal,
Speaker 1: big time, big time deal. We'll discuss that. Tony Romo guys,
Speaker 1: according to a fan, showed up for jury duty this
Speaker 1: week in Dallas and took photos with everyone there and
Speaker 1: it was a quote unquote total sweetheart, even though he
Speaker 1: was not ultimately selected. Of course, he wasn't a Cowboys receiver.
Speaker 1: Our boy Ventel Bryant arrested on a DUI charge in Tampa.
Speaker 1: John Kittena hired his head coach in Burlisons outside of
Speaker 1: Fort Worth, so he went from high school pro back
Speaker 1: high school. And then we've had some changes in the
Speaker 1: schedule of the CBA and the tags and this and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: about forty of them. Where do we want to begin?
Speaker 1: I geez, I mean you offered us so many, and
Speaker 1: I think we should start with John Kittena getting a
Speaker 1: high school code. No, I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: that at all. Good David, Good luck to John. That's awesome. Um,
Speaker 1: what was the first thing you said? There was something
Speaker 1: that I insatory? Pick? Oh? Yeah, yes, the league finally
Speaker 1: announced yesterday the Cowboys are going to get pick one
Speaker 1: seventy nine in exchange for Cole Beasley, and can we
Speaker 1: just talk about I love to see it, and I
Speaker 1: hope the Cowboys do more of this because if you
Speaker 1: if you rewind a year, they trade a sixth round
Speaker 1: pick for Robert Quinn, they get eleven and a half
Speaker 1: sacks out of them, and then they just get the
Speaker 1: pick back because Cole Beasley leaves in free agency and
Speaker 1: so you lose your six then you immediately get it
Speaker 1: back based on how you operate in free agency. It's
Speaker 1: the way I've always wanted the Cowboys to operate not
Speaker 1: necessarily spending big money, but being willing to commit resources
Speaker 1: to get guys that can actually help you. Like there's
Speaker 1: a difference between you know, signing the bottom of the
Speaker 1: barrel free agents because you're unwilling to spend in free agency.
Speaker 1: I get that you can still commit resources to it.
Speaker 1: And it's beautiful how well it worked out for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They basically they got an eleven and a half sacks
Speaker 1: season out of Robert Quinn for basically nothing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if you do it before the draft, at least like
Speaker 1: they did with Quinn, you know, then because you do
Speaker 1: it on draft day, I mean, everybody in the room's
Speaker 1: got a guy that they want there in the fifth round.
Speaker 1: I hope we can take this guy. I hope he
Speaker 1: can take this guy. And then you trade for someone
Speaker 1: and it doesn't ever seem to be have the same luster.
Speaker 1: But if you do it a little bit beforehand, and
Speaker 1: you know, going in, we don't have that pick because
Speaker 1: we just got Robert Quinn, I think it's done differently,
Speaker 1: and so teams don't always want to do that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that wasn't You're right, that was a
Speaker 1: huge get for them. We've seen it both ways. We've
Speaker 1: seen Draft Day when they got Tavon Austin, you know,
Speaker 1: in the draft or maybe it's a little Ward or
Speaker 1: what was his name, but they've traded for him, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was a swap Switzer for Ward. Marinelli
Speaker 1: liked him, and yeah, but they traded a sixth for
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. You are right about that. We are seeing
Speaker 1: more trades though, and I like that. I absolutely like it.
Speaker 1: It's I think teams are realizing that, you know, they're
Speaker 1: not They're valuable, but they're not quite as valuable as
Speaker 1: people have tried to act like they are. It's just
Speaker 1: a it's a smart way to try to add talent
Speaker 1: to your team. But yeah, so they get it back.
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley season in Buffalo, fifth round, big going on there.
Speaker 1: I didn't know some of those things. Well, there is
Speaker 1: you know, it's a busy week and next week is
Speaker 1: going to be even busier with all of the schedule
Speaker 1: change and this and that. Yeah, that's probably I mean,
Speaker 1: that's where we should probably have started, because next week
Speaker 1: is going to be absolutely bonkers because and I'm sure
Speaker 1: people are tired of hearing about the CBA. And you know,
Speaker 1: nobody football fans. You don't follow football to read legal
Speaker 1: ease like I get that, but it's important and it's wild.
Speaker 1: So Saturday night, well, the tag deadline was supposed to
Speaker 1: be tomorrow, Thursday, March twelfth, it is now the CBA
Speaker 1: is being voted on, and I think teams expressed their concerns,
Speaker 1: probably teams like the Cowboys and maybe the Titans, teams
Speaker 1: that have several free agents that they're worried about keeping.
Speaker 1: They're saying, so the tag deadline is Thursday, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: The tag deadlines Thursday at five and we can tag
Speaker 1: two guys, but then you're going to vote on the
Speaker 1: CBA on Thursday night or close the voting window, I
Speaker 1: should say, and then we might will find out if
Speaker 1: we have one or two like that seems like BS
Speaker 1: to me. And then then what's what happens if one
Speaker 1: of the tags gets you know, you immediately have to
Speaker 1: If the CBA is approved and you have two guys tagged,
Speaker 1: you immediately have to resend one. And obviously you would
Speaker 1: resend to the tag that you would put on Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have made it very clear they will tag
Speaker 1: back if they don't have a deal. That's priority one,
Speaker 1: as it should be. So Amari Cooper could be tagged
Speaker 1: for five hours and then they pull it and he's
Speaker 1: headed for free agency. So I think enough teams expressed
Speaker 1: concern about this that they agreed to bump the voting
Speaker 1: window back, and then they press responded to that by
Speaker 1: bumping the tag deadline back. So now the CBA will
Speaker 1: be decided on Saturday night, which thank god, because I
Speaker 1: was you know, I was worried they were going to
Speaker 1: interrupt my Saint Patrick's day plans with the CBA vote,
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. Uh, and then they're gonna
Speaker 1: and then so now the tag deadline is Monday at
Speaker 1: like five, I think, yes, Well mine says noon, okay,
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. Sorry, I must have read their own thing.
Speaker 1: Either way, Now you've got forty eight hours to formulate
Speaker 1: a strategy based on what happens. I think, yep, we
Speaker 1: all probably agree that we think the CBA is going
Speaker 1: to pass. Yeah, and so I think so I think
Speaker 1: Jerry feels that way. So the Cowboys will have you know,
Speaker 1: and you said, edwarder, that's something that we've kind of
Speaker 1: heard around here too, is just that they are working
Speaker 1: furiously to get Amari Cooper signed. Yea. Whether they do it,
Speaker 1: we'll see. But if he's not signed by Saturday, if
Speaker 1: the CBA passes, they'll have forty eight hours to push
Speaker 1: for something before they can't tag him anymore. I think
Speaker 1: that's that. Does that all make sense? I think that's
Speaker 1: it all makes total sense. You've explained it great. For
Speaker 1: as much as they've switched it up on us. I mean,
Speaker 1: this has been from Indy. We were talking with Steven
Speaker 1: about these dates and deadlines and they've continued to change.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Zeke suspension appeal. David. It's
Speaker 1: just like, I'm like, I go back. I hope this
Speaker 1: makes sense because I'm not a lawyer and reading the
Speaker 1: CBA makes my eyes glaze over, honestly. But that's where
Speaker 1: we stand. That's where we stand. Schedule happening. So now
Speaker 1: I want to know what do you guys think? What
Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen? I mean, those
Speaker 1: are the main questions. What are we doing with Dak?
Speaker 1: Do you think Dak is going to wait and see?
Speaker 1: And kind of Amari Byron is it? Robert Quinn is
Speaker 1: he in the mix at all? What is going to
Speaker 1: happen with this? All? Right? I think if you just
Speaker 1: had to guess, I mean, I do think that the
Speaker 1: Cooper deal will be done. They're not even gonna mess
Speaker 1: with a transition tag. I bet they don't ever have
Speaker 1: to do that. And I think and I think Dak
Speaker 1: will get tagged. I just don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: get done on that. Yeah, it's I think there's too
Speaker 1: much at stake there. And honestly, at this point, Dak
Speaker 1: probably wants them to force their hand, right, He's like,
Speaker 1: use the tag, Like, if we're not we're not gonna
Speaker 1: get it done anyway, and you're gonna tag me, then
Speaker 1: do it, like because theoretically if you could let him
Speaker 1: hit free agency and it would be a bonanza, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't going to do that. So I don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening by Monday afternoon, but Amari
Speaker 1: I could. But my I agree with you. But so
Speaker 1: it's Wednesday right now, so that gives I mean, you
Speaker 1: got about five days to get something done. Is this
Speaker 1: we look in like a weekend deal? You think? Or
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that they've probably got the
Speaker 1: parameters of it almost ready to go, and they just
Speaker 1: want to see, you know how if there's going to
Speaker 1: be any big shake ups there well, and maybe they're
Speaker 1: waiting for the CBA vote. I mean, maybe that's a
Speaker 1: situation where the CBA passes late Saturday night and like
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, they're like, all right, we know what we're
Speaker 1: working with. We can put you know, pen to paper
Speaker 1: on this thing. My question about Robert Quinn is do
Speaker 1: they have are they going to let him go to
Speaker 1: free agency and see I think at this point his
Speaker 1: agent probably will want to do that. I just wonder
Speaker 1: if the free agent period it opens up in March
Speaker 1: on March eighteenth, is is he going to be available
Speaker 1: for a little bit and is somebody gonna throw some
Speaker 1: money out there at him? Are they going to try
Speaker 1: to get him locked up before he ever gets there.
Speaker 1: I think that's a situation where even if he hits
Speaker 1: and you can never fully predict what another I mean,
Speaker 1: if another team just comes in with this crazy offer,
Speaker 1: but he's thirty. I think he liked it here. I
Speaker 1: think he likes the culture and living in Dallas, like
Speaker 1: he just seemed like a natural fit. Were you sitting
Speaker 1: at lunch yesterday when he was there. He came in
Speaker 1: and he was high five and some people and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, first thought was first thought
Speaker 1: was like, hey, this is this is good, Like he
Speaker 1: looks like he's coming back. And then somebody else said
Speaker 1: or he could be saying goodbye, and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. So there's so much reading between the lines
Speaker 1: going on right now. Especially at lunch, it's like who
Speaker 1: is talking to who? Do you look happy? Do you
Speaker 1: look like are you getting a lot of food? Like
Speaker 1: this might be your last trip here, which I mean
Speaker 1: guys that have their future up in the year, you
Speaker 1: don't see them around the building typically, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about years of experience doing this, like if you're if
Speaker 1: you're if your contracts running out and you might be
Speaker 1: going somewhere else, Like like, I haven't seen Dack since
Speaker 1: the season ended, have you? So? Why have we apparently
Speaker 1: seen but I have not seen Byron? Did you see
Speaker 1: him yesterday? I have not seen. We've heard some people
Speaker 1: in our cube area say they've seen Byron a lot
Speaker 1: at breakfast. I have yet to see him. But I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying he's if he's around, he's keeping
Speaker 1: a low profile, which makes sense. Which so my point
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know Robert Quinn's hanging out at lunch.
Speaker 1: I think he really likes it here, and I think
Speaker 1: he's made his money, like he's he's done a huge contract.
Speaker 1: You know, he was an all pro when he was
Speaker 1: with the Rams, and I just think if if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys make him a reasonable offer, I think he would
Speaker 1: prefer to be here. That's one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's like you might hit free agency, but we feel
Speaker 1: good about our odds of keeping him. And this is
Speaker 1: how sorry go ahead, and Nick, I was just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, for anybody, if you you know, just might
Speaker 1: be here, you mean you still have to clean out
Speaker 1: your locker. I mean if he's like, oh, well he's
Speaker 1: he's here, well, I mean he's got stuff here and
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's gonna be here. I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about anybody specifically. I just mean that, oh I
Speaker 1: saw him today. Well, he's said by producer Beam, do
Speaker 1: we trust him? He says he saw Byron at breakfast
Speaker 1: or whatever it's worth, said he saw him. But this
Speaker 1: is a perfect example of something I'm sure you guys
Speaker 1: already talked about with Ron Learry, you know on Twitter
Speaker 1: you want to throw that in the news, Ben too,
Speaker 1: wasn't it? Was it not discussed last week? I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember what day we saw that. So Ron Learry
Speaker 1: is tweeting with everyone. The Dallas media is saying, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I could still got my house in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I could come back, and I feel like that's how
Speaker 1: you got belts there. Oh, come on, come on, fair,
Speaker 1: fair question. I like I like Larry a lot. I
Speaker 1: like him at left guard. I think you'd be better
Speaker 1: than what they have right now. I do too, But
Speaker 1: at what price? That's always the thing with free agency
Speaker 1: or years nineteen. I don't know. I know, I'm just right.
Speaker 1: If you you got to pay the quarterback, you got
Speaker 1: to pay the receiver. Hopefully you're gonna pay Quinn. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you're gonna, you know, make some additions on the defense
Speaker 1: so that you're not holding this thing with duct tape.
Speaker 1: And then and when all that's said and done, can
Speaker 1: you afford to pay like good veteran money to a guard?
Speaker 1: You can? You got two left guards on rookie deals
Speaker 1: and they have the same name, and you got to
Speaker 1: see what they can do. Connor Williams Connor McGovern. You
Speaker 1: got to see what they can do. Um, I would
Speaker 1: bring back Joe Looney. I think that would be a
Speaker 1: fair or I don't know if ron Leary has devalued
Speaker 1: to the point where I could get him for backup money,
Speaker 1: you know, come like maybe compete and be a backup
Speaker 1: guard or but I don't think that's true. I think
Speaker 1: I think he can signed to be a starter somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty years old, yeah, but offensive line. You know, you
Speaker 1: can play into your thirties on the offensive line. Boy.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of teams that had him
Speaker 1: off off the board because of his his knee. And
Speaker 1: I mean Jerry was so excited when they got him
Speaker 1: because he thought that was just going to be a
Speaker 1: great move and it was. I mean that dude one.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still playing what he was he was
Speaker 1: undrafted in twenty twelve, I think. But it sounds like
Speaker 1: things aren't going to continue in Denver. So no, yeah,
Speaker 1: so come on home, Larry. That's my point is all
Speaker 1: these guys go on other places, and they all keep
Speaker 1: their houses in Dallas, and there's different reasons for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, there's no state income tax and the
Speaker 1: weather's correctly. Why wouldn't you want to weather? It's great, David,
Speaker 1: The weather is great compared to you? Do you love melting?
Speaker 1: Compared alive to a lot of places where you could
Speaker 1: be weather Dallas, Weather's fantastic. Sure, So what else you got?
Speaker 1: What else is over there? We got a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Derek traveling today Lindsay Draper in with Nick and Dave.
Speaker 1: And it is the fans segment, because our fans are
Speaker 1: the best. They've got questions. I want to suck up.
Speaker 1: They've got pressing questions, David, nobody interacts with our fans
Speaker 1: more than you love them. I love our fans. You're
Speaker 1: just You're just I do. You're just sucking up to
Speaker 1: him though. That's sucking up. It's fine. I love you guys,
Speaker 1: you know I love you. There you go. He doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to show his love all the time. Don't
Speaker 1: we have to work with them. I don't do emotions
Speaker 1: very well. Who are some from Daniel? Who are some
Speaker 1: non cowboys free agents that maybe might have some ties
Speaker 1: to anyone on the new staff that you could see
Speaker 1: them kind of targeting or wanting to bring in dampering
Speaker 1: no thanks? Is it? No? Thank you? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: this is boring. But right off the bat, like I
Speaker 1: just I just feel it in my soul that Randall
Speaker 1: copp will be back here again unless somebody blows him
Speaker 1: away with a crazy offer. But again, I think he
Speaker 1: likes it here. He has a relationship with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: He played cacarthy brought it up right like the day
Speaker 1: he signed his contract. Mike McCarthy brought it up again
Speaker 1: back again at the combine. Yeah, and that's happening. What
Speaker 1: was the was the question though? Non Cowboys? Sure? Yeah,
Speaker 1: any other non Cowboys, other players there's I mean, um,
Speaker 1: I mean it feels reckless, but you just like you
Speaker 1: try to connecting dots. I mean Mike McCarthy drafted haha,
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix. The Cowboys could use the safety. I believe
Speaker 1: he was there when the Packers drafted to Marius Randall.
Speaker 1: Two guys that have kind of you know, they've both
Speaker 1: had their ups and downs. They've they've you know, had
Speaker 1: big contracts, they've fallen out of favor in places. I
Speaker 1: think they've both been cut before, so you know, not
Speaker 1: getting not guys that are gonna just absolutely light the
Speaker 1: fan base on fire. But there are players McCarthy has
Speaker 1: history with, um, Mike Nolan's coached everywhere. UM, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's definitely there's a handful of guys out there.
Speaker 1: My thing is just make it make sense financially. That's
Speaker 1: that's line one of everything right now, which is, I
Speaker 1: know what feels impossible. I know it's annoying, but it's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I gotta see him like Derek
Speaker 1: brings up Chris Harris every time we do the show,
Speaker 1: and I would be really excited about that. But that
Speaker 1: just sounds like a fat stack of cash for pie
Speaker 1: has gotten smaller. What is it? I'm not implying anything here.
Speaker 1: What is the status with Hunter Henry? I saw him
Speaker 1: on a free agent list? Is he the Chargers? Is
Speaker 1: he gonna be like franchise Tagner put me on the spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago I saw something about him, because
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna hit free agency. I wouldn't think.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think he's gonna be a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: be out there. But if he is, I can see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys being interested there. I just don't know his
Speaker 1: status because he's a good tight ender because where he
Speaker 1: went to school. Okay, I mean because and really, I
Speaker 1: mean he is a good tight end. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be a smart alec. I mean, it's not like
Speaker 1: they just bring in every razorback that's ever been here.
Speaker 1: But but um, he's but is it not a position
Speaker 1: of need? I mean it's a position of need. And
Speaker 1: he's a you know, pack around pick and I just
Speaker 1: don't know what what they're doing with him. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look as though it's a guarantee he's getting tagged. So
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to me. Juggling so much right now,
Speaker 1: I think that would be a that would be a
Speaker 1: hefty price tag too, definitely. But but I keep going
Speaker 1: back to I have no I have no inside knowledge.
Speaker 1: But like I don't think the Cowboys have a choice
Speaker 1: but to spend at least a little bit of money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna there's too many like not. I mean
Speaker 1: it's not like they need depth, Like they are missing starters,
Speaker 1: like six of them on defense, and you can't replace
Speaker 1: all of that again with like the bargain bin, you know, Like, well,
Speaker 1: we brought in Stephen Paia on like a one and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars deal Like, no way, that's not
Speaker 1: good enough to address the holes you have. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna be willing to drop money
Speaker 1: on a Chris Harris or a Hunter Henry, but I
Speaker 1: think they have to be willing to spend more money
Speaker 1: than they have been in recent years. I agree a
Speaker 1: lot of questions on both Twitter and Periscope about Ron
Speaker 1: Leary will give it to alex Um if Connor can't
Speaker 1: take the next step? Is ron Leary? The answer? Is
Speaker 1: a realistic to think that he may end up here.
Speaker 1: I think it's realistic. But you know, like they've just said,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got two young guards right now, and
Speaker 1: you can't pay everybody. And I think you drafted him,
Speaker 1: and not just young guards, but guys you drafted in
Speaker 1: the second and third round. So I think I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be the case. I
Speaker 1: don't see that happening unless just a sweetheart deal just
Speaker 1: falls into your lap. Yeah, if it's if it's just
Speaker 1: too insanely cheap to pass up. Maybe, But you have
Speaker 1: the two Connors, and again, you need multiple defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: you need a safety, you need multiple cornerbacks. You need
Speaker 1: to bring back Robert Quinn, the DAK and a MARII
Speaker 1: deals go without saying like it's just it's a lot
Speaker 1: of money that needs to be spent to also be
Speaker 1: signing a veteran guard. Here's how that does work. Then
Speaker 1: we don't know this from what they off you know,
Speaker 1: offensive line meetings and offensive you know meetings. But like
Speaker 1: if they say that Connor Williams is a tackle, maybe
Speaker 1: they like him as a swing tackle, and Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: is a guy that it can play some guard and
Speaker 1: maybe some center. Um so then McGovern can play some
Speaker 1: center too. That Joe Looney maybe he's not resigned. That's
Speaker 1: where that's where I believe that Ron Leary could be
Speaker 1: a guy that plays, you know, that comes in and
Speaker 1: plays at left guard. I could see that scenario. But
Speaker 1: if they're still viewing Connor Williams as a guard, then
Speaker 1: I don't really see a big you know signing there,
Speaker 1: which is something we don't really know at this point.
Speaker 1: With twenty A story on Connor Williams, I don't know
Speaker 1: where he's gonna play, what's gonna do. But he is
Speaker 1: rehabbing from an ACL injury. He's been here every day
Speaker 1: of the offseason. He's gonna be you know, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good to go when training camp starts,
Speaker 1: which could be is going to be a week earlier
Speaker 1: than we thought now sure is? Yeah, that's I mean
Speaker 1: we I guess we didn't touch it on the first segment. Well,
Speaker 1: we've probably got more fan questions about so many. Should
Speaker 1: we even ask the dead well of California it's awesome,
Speaker 1: keep going? Should we even ask the das question? No,
Speaker 1: you tired of it? Well, we did like a whole
Speaker 1: segment on it last week. I mean, I don't see
Speaker 1: it not happening. I'm a big Dad's fan. I hope
Speaker 1: he gets a shot in the NFL. I don't see
Speaker 1: it here. I don't see the fit, you know, like
Speaker 1: the laying down on the ground catching the ball. He
Speaker 1: seems to be working very diligently. What's that row or about?
Speaker 1: It's about hand strength, Nick, I don't like you. It's
Speaker 1: it was. It was very impressive. I am wondering why
Speaker 1: they cut it off there at the very end, though
Speaker 1: there was one I haven't even seen the video you're
Speaker 1: talking about, but Beam on headset right now said we
Speaker 1: want to see you do it. So maybe we could
Speaker 1: try that, you know, for a segment. Throw it on
Speaker 1: the break next week. I mean in the middle of
Speaker 1: DeMarcus lay work. It is wonderful, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it was very impressive. But for a guy that's
Speaker 1: has question marks on running routes, I mean, that's not
Speaker 1: what we don't need. Don't need to see that run
Speaker 1: over someone, run by them, catch over them, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Okay, Cam, though, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on trying to get Bryce Butler back? I haven't wish.
Speaker 1: I've been ready to ask this one day. Why this
Speaker 1: is the band segment? So what they ask goes again,
Speaker 1: if there's not a spot for Dez Bryant, why is
Speaker 1: there a spot for Bryce s Butler? I don't I
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't get why. Like the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: underachieved relative to the expectations for most of the last
Speaker 1: like five years, So why are we trying to do
Speaker 1: this reunion with all these guys that were on those teams?
Speaker 1: I don't like five years later too, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Uh, it was out of the league all
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I mean again, let's assume a Mari coop,
Speaker 1: or let's assume a. Marie Cooper, Michael Gallup, and Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb are all here. Throw in a draft pick, and
Speaker 1: you know, and John Bay Johnson's still kicking around and like,
Speaker 1: all those guys are just like what I've until Brian.
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be too, honestly, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to do. That's yeah, it's too
Speaker 1: soon to say that. I mean I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if they'll outright cut him. I guess we'll have
Speaker 1: to see what happens with his arrest. But either way,
Speaker 1: you got your top three, you can draft the guy.
Speaker 1: What's the fit for these veteran receivers who again like
Speaker 1: don't have a versa le role in special teams all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, right, I don't see it. Don't
Speaker 1: see it. Our friend Wayne wants to know if the
Speaker 1: fact that we're still looking at a deck and an
Speaker 1: Amari deal not done and then Byron getting away, what
Speaker 1: do you guys chalk that up to? He says, is
Speaker 1: it poor management or how do you how do you
Speaker 1: get to this point? That's a really good question, And
Speaker 1: like hindsight is super twenty twenty. But if you're a
Speaker 1: big fan of Byron Jones. I totally understand where you're
Speaker 1: coming from, where it's like, well, maybe they what your
Speaker 1: face says it all, We're just like, maybe they jumped
Speaker 1: the gun on signing some of these other contracts, and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith comes to mind, is like, well, and it's
Speaker 1: hard to say because like Jalen came to them, they
Speaker 1: got a discount on him relative to where he was
Speaker 1: at that point. But you know, he had a disappointing season,
Speaker 1: and I get why people are like, man, that money
Speaker 1: could go toward Byron Jones and we'd feel a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot better about it right now. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the Zeke deal is another one. I'm not ready and
Speaker 1: I look, I know there's a huge argument about like
Speaker 1: the relative value of running backs. I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: hate on that deal yet because the Cowboys can get
Speaker 1: out of it after a relatively short amount of time.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Zeke is awesome, So I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to hate on that deal. But you know, they
Speaker 1: signed three contracts in the summer, and and also for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, for what was the fourth one, l Lyle
Speaker 1: Jalen quiet, I guess Tank was technically the Spring, but ye're, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: either way I was thinking in the offseason. One that
Speaker 1: was I'm not ready to hate on the Tank deal either.
Speaker 1: I think Tank's awesome. Um so I'm out of you yesterday. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: he's He's been back for at least a probably two weeks.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen him around for most of the offseason. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just mismanagement with Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's it's going to be their preference.
Speaker 1: Do you think they decided that a while back, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we love this guy, but looking at what we have
Speaker 1: in the future, he's We're not. You know, this reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit. I think I told you yesterday
Speaker 1: about DeMarco Murray. You know, had a really great year
Speaker 1: in fourteen, and they were interested in fifteen. They just
Speaker 1: kind of had a ceiling. They just said, this is
Speaker 1: where we're gonna be with you if you can get
Speaker 1: more than that, and he did, and as it turned out,
Speaker 1: it probably you know, the Cowboys were right on that
Speaker 1: one because he really didn't have you know, great years
Speaker 1: after that. But you know, I just wonder if they're like,
Speaker 1: we like Byron Jones, but we for the money. He's
Speaker 1: probably gonna get. We want more than that, we want interceptions,
Speaker 1: we want which I passed the flection. I was arguing
Speaker 1: with people about this on Twitter this morning. It's it's
Speaker 1: going to be fascinating because that's clearly part of it. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not just like they didn't allocate their money the
Speaker 1: right way, Like they haven't made him a priority this
Speaker 1: whole time, Like they didn't pick up his option until
Speaker 1: Chris Rashard stepped in and was like, no, this guy
Speaker 1: can play corner and and they you know, he's been
Speaker 1: the forgotten child this whole time, Like when you talk contracts,
Speaker 1: his name has never come up. How frustrating will it
Speaker 1: be or just disappointing or sad when he goes somewhere
Speaker 1: else absolutely flourishes and who does who knows what? And
Speaker 1: then you wonder, with maybe a different staff here, like
Speaker 1: what could have been He doesn't he doesn't get picks,
Speaker 1: and that's it's I mean, that's a big reason of
Speaker 1: why he won't be resigned here. It sounds like and
Speaker 1: I just wondered. We talked about it last week, like
Speaker 1: he gave up the second fewest passing yards of anybody
Speaker 1: that was targeted fifty or more times, like he is
Speaker 1: a reliable cover corner as was Brandon Carr, but he
Speaker 1: got beat up in this scheme. He went to Baltimore
Speaker 1: after having one pick in three seasons and had four
Speaker 1: in his first year with the Ravens. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen with Byron, but it's going
Speaker 1: to create a hell of a dialogue if that is
Speaker 1: the case. And even if he doesn't, I don't imagine,
Speaker 1: like with his athleticism and his professionalism, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: that he'll go somewhere and just fall off a cliff,
Speaker 1: like he will be a productive cover corner. He's too athletic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that, and I think that's what this debate is
Speaker 1: all about, is like he might not get picks, but
Speaker 1: this guy can handle his side of the field for
Speaker 1: six years easy probably, Like I don't see him falling off.
Speaker 1: And it's just at least for four or five years
Speaker 1: with everyone else they have right now that he can't
Speaker 1: have a career. It's it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how it pans out. I wonder if any team
Speaker 1: out there is looking at him as a safety. I
Speaker 1: got some mail back questions about that this offseason. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that they are. Just he's been so good
Speaker 1: as a boundary corner. I mean, and again I know
Speaker 1: he doesn't get picks, but three hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 1: last year, that's what he gave up in coverage in
Speaker 1: sixteen games. I just the thing about it is is
Speaker 1: is what you know, what has killed the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: the passing game so many times it just seems like
Speaker 1: the tight end just kills them. And if you can
Speaker 1: get in a situation where you know, if he was
Speaker 1: you have a really strong coverage from your safety position,
Speaker 1: you know you can put him on a tight end
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't feel as bad in some of those mismatches.
Speaker 1: But I mean then you're also talking about what happens
Speaker 1: when the running back gets in the clear, and is
Speaker 1: he the guy that's going to bring him down? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's a willing tackler. He's not you know,
Speaker 1: he's not the best, but I mean as a corner,
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. So I just wonder if there's anybody
Speaker 1: thinking that route for him. Doubt at those agents probably
Speaker 1: not going that way because you get more money obviously
Speaker 1: as a corner. So another question for my buddy Larry
Speaker 1: switching gears a little bit here. We got OTAs coming up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have how many guys in the locker room
Speaker 1: a ton? Who is your most just fun guy to
Speaker 1: talk to, most comical guy in the locker room that
Speaker 1: you love to just chat with. Joe Oh damn, he
Speaker 1: said Jordan list No, I said Joe loonim initial. Jordan's
Speaker 1: a good one too. Jordan was my pick. He's so
Speaker 1: he will talk. I mean, you come up to him,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll shot chat about him. He's hilarious, hilarious because
Speaker 1: he doesn't think he is. Joe Looney is trying to
Speaker 1: be funny, and he is, you know, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: just he's got He's just the way his delivery is.
Speaker 1: But like Jordan Lewis, he's just like what you know
Speaker 1: it is, you know, you know, it's just like a
Speaker 1: great Twitter follow too, the best Twitter follow, the best
Speaker 1: Twitter follow. He will beef with anyone. He's got time,
Speaker 1: oh every day. Shout out actually, like shout out my
Speaker 1: guy Xavier super Philo too. Uh, we'll see you know it.
Speaker 1: And that this question is bumming me out because two
Speaker 1: of the three we named might not be here in
Speaker 1: a month. Um. But he's just a super chill, cool,
Speaker 1: fun guy to talk to. He's always got good music
Speaker 1: plan on his beats pill always, and he's not afraid
Speaker 1: to play whatever like I mean, no, he'll throw some
Speaker 1: George Straight, he's got some reggae, he's got some country,
Speaker 1: he'll play some hip hop. Yeah, he's got it all,
Speaker 1: So good for him. Shout out Zavier, Shout out Zavier.
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Speaker 1: Now we're going to talk about the draft because Dave
Speaker 1: and I had an interesting lunch conversation yesterday. We've talked
Speaker 1: about the turnover of the coaching staff and the dynamic
Speaker 1: of the draft. These scouts start looking at these players
Speaker 1: gosh a year ago, and now's the time when you know,
Speaker 1: O use pro days today. So coaches are probably going
Speaker 1: out looking how is it going to work with the
Speaker 1: dynamic of Will McClay and maybe you know, Mike Nolan
Speaker 1: going at it instead of Rod Mayoranelli. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about Maranelli getting Taco and Tristan Hill, guys
Speaker 1: that he really wanted. But how can we just discuss
Speaker 1: it all. I'm not being mean. I'm just it's the
Speaker 1: history and the child only too defensive lineman that he got.
Speaker 1: I heard those were guys that he fell in love.
Speaker 1: I like maliek Collins, I like miliekh. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I don't think, Okay, I don't think will Malik be back?
Speaker 1: Probably not? If I had to guess, this is what
Speaker 1: I hope doesn't happen is there was an argument, not
Speaker 1: an argument, but it was just the difference of opinion.
Speaker 1: In the draft of last year for Juan Thornhill, the
Speaker 1: safety christmah Shard said this, Rod Marinelli said this, next thing,
Speaker 1: you know that they take Tristan Hill. What I hope
Speaker 1: is that there's more scouts talk there. Yeah, they're the
Speaker 1: ones that are that are evaluating these It's cool to
Speaker 1: have a preference and maybe maybe that's what happened maybe
Speaker 1: they were split down the middle and they said, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just go to the guys that are coaching him.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I just think that the scouts,
Speaker 1: you know, need to have a little bit more, especially
Speaker 1: if what McCarthy's saying is true. I would just want
Speaker 1: good football players. Then the scouts are the ones that say,
Speaker 1: this guy's a great football player, we have a need
Speaker 1: for him, let's put him in for my money. It's
Speaker 1: the most interesting storyline with the Cowboys because we got
Speaker 1: this year at least because we got so used to
Speaker 1: the way things were, and we've talked about this and
Speaker 1: I'll take whether the quarterback is going to be here
Speaker 1: or okay, well heat no, but that's it's not a story.
Speaker 1: He will be here. He will be here. Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: which I thought was cool. Jason Garrett wanted his staff
Speaker 1: to be involved in the draft process, and like he would,
Speaker 1: you know, guys would go out work people out, develop
Speaker 1: their own opinions about these guys, be very involved and
Speaker 1: yes we can harp on Taco and Tristan. And it
Speaker 1: was very frustrating because you know, if you follow the
Speaker 1: draft show, or if you follow the draft every year
Speaker 1: right around not quite now, but in about two three weeks,
Speaker 1: when the thirty visits start happening and really there's nothing
Speaker 1: left but the draft, you could just sense this narrative
Speaker 1: change like that. You know, that's when Tristan Hill goes
Speaker 1: from like, oh, yeah, like that's he's a pretty good
Speaker 1: player that you might draft in the fourth round to
Speaker 1: being like, oh, they're gunning for this guy with their
Speaker 1: first pick. Like that. And it happened every year, and
Speaker 1: sometimes for better and sometimes for worse. To that point,
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan fell in love with Dak Prescott when he
Speaker 1: went out to Starkville to work him out after the combine.
Speaker 1: So it worked in good ways and bad ways. But
Speaker 1: I'm curious about how Michael McCarthy approaches it. How how
Speaker 1: much does he involve his coaching staff, how loud of
Speaker 1: a voice do they have, because he did say, you know,
Speaker 1: he just wants the best football players regardless. But he
Speaker 1: also said he expects he'll be more involved in the
Speaker 1: draft and free agency than he ever was in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Garrett and his staff were too
Speaker 1: medlesome at times, Like the scouts literally spend their lives
Speaker 1: develop like figuring out who's good, and it seems counterintuitive
Speaker 1: to have a bunch of football coaches who have been
Speaker 1: working with a completely different set of players for eleven months,
Speaker 1: jump in, watch three weeks worth of tape, go to
Speaker 1: a couple of workouts, and say this is the guy.
Speaker 1: We love him. It's counterintuitive, and that doesn't mean coaches
Speaker 1: can't have a voice. But I hope Will and his
Speaker 1: guys really lead the charge on developing or finding talent
Speaker 1: under Mike McCarthy. But it's fascinating because we don't know yet.
Speaker 1: We don't know what that's going to look like. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we will start to find that out in the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. And on one hand, I'm like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the coaches do need to be a little bit
Speaker 1: more involved because the scouts don't have a great idea
Speaker 1: of the type of guy that they're looking for. But
Speaker 1: then again, then you go back to, well, if he
Speaker 1: said all along, I'll just give me the best player
Speaker 1: and we will make our scheme fit into that. And
Speaker 1: you know, if that truly is the case, then this
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that hard. Get in there in third, fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth rounds and say yeah, and let's be fair, this
Speaker 1: is what they did last year too. It's not like
Speaker 1: they didn't do this last year. They were in the
Speaker 1: third round, they didn't need a guard, they'd already taken
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. But this guy was still sitting there from
Speaker 1: the second round to the third and they stay, wait
Speaker 1: a second, now, Connor McGovern is a guy we have
Speaker 1: rated here. We didn't go into this day thinking we
Speaker 1: were going to take a guard. So let's let's just
Speaker 1: remember this that they do. They do that before, and
Speaker 1: they and I think they'll continue to do that. They've
Speaker 1: done it, just it seems like when it's close, they've
Speaker 1: deferred toward need, which compromises your board. Like I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I just think like wan
Speaker 1: Thornhill was a better purer prospect than Tristan Hill. See.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that, though, not not
Speaker 1: the Thornhill that I don't have a problem with. When
Speaker 1: it's close, I go, I leaned towards the need. I've
Speaker 1: always thought best available player is inaccurate, and I don't
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's best available need. I've always
Speaker 1: said best available need is more important. What if it's
Speaker 1: not close and you still do it? I mean if
Speaker 1: it's not close, then then then I then I would
Speaker 1: go with the higher ranked player. But but don't throw
Speaker 1: a quarterback out there who's not gonna play. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's got to be a guy that's going to help me.
Speaker 1: I don't want a quarterback that was supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the top five that's that falls to seventeen. What
Speaker 1: about a defensive tackle that doesn't help you? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean he didn't help you because he can't play. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, that's my point. That's why he's not ready
Speaker 1: to play. He wasn't mature enough to play, wasn't doing
Speaker 1: all the things he needed to do. He wasn't ready yet.
Speaker 1: And he might turn into a good player. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is is that you know, there's not a
Speaker 1: package that has two quarterbacks out there unless you're gonna
Speaker 1: do what the Saints are doing. But it's not worth
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I'm just saying, don't the best available.
Speaker 1: If they have Justin Herbert rated as the number four
Speaker 1: player and he's sitting there at seventeen, I don't think
Speaker 1: you take him and either do you? Right? No? Not?
Speaker 1: But that's an extreme example, okay, and it's just you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: and your Tristan Hill's career is not over. He could
Speaker 1: still be a great player. But let's talk about on
Speaker 1: Thornhill was awesome for the Chiefs before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: Who's the sixth best quarterback in the draft. Not put
Speaker 1: you on a spot. Just give me a guy that's
Speaker 1: that could be a second round quarterback? Um? Is there
Speaker 1: one Jacobison out of Washington? Okay, he might even go
Speaker 1: first perfect because he's got so much talent. Perfect. What
Speaker 1: if he's sitting in the second round yet Dak signed
Speaker 1: second round? No, I'm not doing it, And I'm using
Speaker 1: his availability to try to get somebody to trade up
Speaker 1: for him. That's what I would do. Yeah, and Darry's
Speaker 1: definitely done that. But best available player, best available to need.
Speaker 1: I mean, the good thing is is that you need
Speaker 1: everything everything. Yeah, no, it's it's true, and you don't
Speaker 1: probably need a running back. But that's that's about it.
Speaker 1: That is the one position that I can't make a
Speaker 1: case for the Cowboys drafting. Maybe guard the receiver could
Speaker 1: happen in the first round. Tighten could happen if there
Speaker 1: was one there, I don't think, but they definitely would
Speaker 1: want one to be there. Offensive tackle doable? Doable? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of those injuries. I mean just because they're getting
Speaker 1: up there. Guard. I don't think gard garden running back
Speaker 1: are like the two guard center. Uh well, I interior linemen.
Speaker 1: I think of it all the same guard center. Whatever.
Speaker 1: What would Cowboys fans do if they drafted a guard
Speaker 1: center in the first round? Riot? I would riot? I
Speaker 1: would riot too, I would be very would you guys riot?
Speaker 1: I mean unless unless something unforeseen is going on with
Speaker 1: Travis or somebody else. I don't say that to specult.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there better be a damn good reason
Speaker 1: why you're drafting a guard in the first round. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be upset. Put anything on that defensive side,
Speaker 1: anything anything linebacker. No, that's let's see, there's some debate
Speaker 1: about that. Good ones. How do we feel about about
Speaker 1: Laton at this point? That's which it's weird, like there's
Speaker 1: conflicting information out there. TV Star saw a commercial of
Speaker 1: him in there. Yeah, he did a commercial in Idaho. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he didn't buckle up. The Cowboys can't camp. And I've
Speaker 1: heard and Layton himself. Obviously the player is going to
Speaker 1: bet on himself. But like it sounds like there's no
Speaker 1: concern whatsoever on the Cowboys slash latent side of things
Speaker 1: that he'll be ready for training camp. But then you know,
Speaker 1: rumors persist from one source or another that they don't
Speaker 1: feel great about him, and maybe you want to draft
Speaker 1: a linebacker early to help bolster yourself there. First round
Speaker 1: would be way too high for me. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I need more evidence that he can't stay healthy before
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do that. But I would definitely be
Speaker 1: ready for the second round if there was a good value,
Speaker 1: then the second or third round. Again, I mean that
Speaker 1: right there puts what we're talking about to the test.
Speaker 1: If there's a linebacker there that's just so much better
Speaker 1: than what you need. Next, I would hope they pull
Speaker 1: the trigger. Yeah, what would that do? Where do we
Speaker 1: think Jalen's going this next year? You know, I think
Speaker 1: that one of the top priorities that Mike Nolan has
Speaker 1: as his defensive coordinators to figure out where to play
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I mean, if what you're is is true
Speaker 1: about we're gonna put the scheme around what we've got,
Speaker 1: then they've got to figure out the best way to
Speaker 1: put him out there, um, where he's not covering a
Speaker 1: lot of receivers or tight ends or anything. He don't
Speaker 1: put him in coverage a lot, and he needs to
Speaker 1: go north, he needs to go forward, get after the
Speaker 1: quarterback and and maybe a little bit more of a rusher.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that you know, everyone can
Speaker 1: can make their jokes on us swipe in and the
Speaker 1: tweets and all that because he because he doesn't, but
Speaker 1: he is a good football player. They got to figure
Speaker 1: out ways that they can utilize him. Yeah. I actually
Speaker 1: I wrote about Jalen yesterday for our you know, we're
Speaker 1: previewing just kind of recapping the season that everybody had,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's Jalen Smith Is is a
Speaker 1: weird case. It is a tough one to write. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really tough to write. He is. He's a
Speaker 1: pro bowler who had a bad season and is arguably
Speaker 1: like if you were going to rank like the players
Speaker 1: who draw the ire of the media and the fans
Speaker 1: the most, he's probably it right now. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Dak is always going to be a lightning rod because
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback. But like, nobody's happy with what Jalen
Speaker 1: did except for maybe Jalen. Like everybody I mean, he
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl and took a step back.
Speaker 1: I think everybody would agree with that. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, he's not even twenty five yet. He's been
Speaker 1: a three year starter. For you, He's got four hundred
Speaker 1: tackles in three seasons. Like he is an athletic and
Speaker 1: a talented football player, and I mean, you know, and
Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, like people are you know, maybe
Speaker 1: upset that he got his big contract. But again, just
Speaker 1: like Laton, I think it's way too early to close
Speaker 1: the book on him being a much better player. And
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan's been coaching defense in the NFL for a
Speaker 1: long time. I'm optimistic that he can bring the most
Speaker 1: out of him. For sure. I love the energy of
Speaker 1: this coaching staff. I mean, we barely really see them
Speaker 1: all together. It's mostly at lunch, but everybody's so energy.
Speaker 1: And I've kind of explained to people it's like freshman
Speaker 1: in college because they're all new. They're all kind of
Speaker 1: around each other for the first time, and they're kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, open to making friends and meeting people and
Speaker 1: talking in line, and it's just it's a very good
Speaker 1: energy around here. I just I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: going to translate like I don't know how good the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will be in plenty, Like we don't even know
Speaker 1: who's on the team, but you can already feel that
Speaker 1: the change of message and personnel has been a breath
Speaker 1: of fresh air. Like it just feels different. You know,
Speaker 1: we're talking Cowboys are gonna play in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game. We don't know how they're going to handle
Speaker 1: that in the sense of like what the schedule is
Speaker 1: going to look like and how Mike wants to practice.
Speaker 1: And it's new and exciting because if Jason Garrett was
Speaker 1: still here, we'd be like, Okay, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: can lay this thing out from July until December, like
Speaker 1: we know exactly how it'll go. So couple that with
Speaker 1: the fact that half the roster is going to be new,
Speaker 1: or you know, a third of the roster is going
Speaker 1: to be brand new. I just think, you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's high potential for good energy on this team.
Speaker 1: I will say this to two contracts that they did
Speaker 1: pick up this week were very you know, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: like Adam Run and Jamays. I would thought both of
Speaker 1: those guys. I was just kind of surprised. I would
Speaker 1: you know they would. They seemed like, you know, guys
Speaker 1: that would fit that last scheme and the last offense
Speaker 1: and all that, and they were around and brought him
Speaker 1: back and all that. I'm just kind of surprised that
Speaker 1: they did that. But I've been hurt before. But the
Speaker 1: fact that a brand new coaching staff, like they had
Speaker 1: to pick up an option to bring Jama Zola Wally back,
Speaker 1: like so they could have they could have been like, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't our guy. The fact that a brand new
Speaker 1: coaching staff brought him back has me so excited because
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, I believe this in my heart, Like Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore wanted to use him more last year, Like he
Speaker 1: was so involved in OTAs in mini camp and training camp.
Speaker 1: He's doing all this wild stuff. And I swear to guy,
Speaker 1: go back and watch the season opener against the Giants.
Speaker 1: He was doing wild stuff there too. Like he was
Speaker 1: out on the field, he was running wheel route, he
Speaker 1: was a functioning part of the offense. And I just
Speaker 1: think Jason Garrett was like, this is too fun. Rain
Speaker 1: it in, get this out of here, go back to
Speaker 1: what we like and zero catches last year. Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: I just I believe that Kellen wants Jama's to thrive.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I've been hurt before, but I'm
Speaker 1: excited that maybe this is the year. Please don't don't
Speaker 1: break my heart. Don't break my heart. No. I think
Speaker 1: the fact what you just said, though, proves that there's
Speaker 1: something there that's Mike McCarthy loves using fullbacks. Green Bay
Speaker 1: was famous for it, you know, John Coon, and they
Speaker 1: had a couple other ones when he was there whose
Speaker 1: names don't come to mind. And if they didn't want
Speaker 1: him here, they just would have not picked up his
Speaker 1: option and they could have gotten somebody else. Yep. Those
Speaker 1: are a little different type of fullbacks. They are. I
Speaker 1: wonder if there is they absolutely are roll there that's
Speaker 1: going to be different for him, or just a different guy.
Speaker 1: Find my guy something to do. He's an athletic, find
Speaker 1: my guy something. He is an athletic football players one.
Speaker 1: I think he has the fourth or fifth fastest forty
Speaker 1: on the team. Seriously, he scored any one of those things.
Speaker 1: Like I said with Firon earlier, if you see crazy
Speaker 1: stuff happen with him with a new staff, you're going
Speaker 1: to be like rubbing your temples. Yeah, where or your eyebrows,
Speaker 1: and my kid, this stave will be all over the
Speaker 1: eyebrows in the press box. Um, get my guys something
Speaker 1: to do and he'll be a core special team or two.
Speaker 1: Which that in John Fossil. That's big for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was. I was happy when I saw that
Speaker 1: they picked that option up. Was everybody else on Twitter? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: no anything, I mean that's what sucks about it. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like, do we just not write about it
Speaker 1: or do you just say I'm sorry? I mean sorry.
Speaker 1: Boy took it a step further and said the Cowboys
Speaker 1: made their first free agency it was Adam Redman too.
Speaker 1: It was too funny not to do funny not to
Speaker 1: do it. It's fine, it's free agencies not even open yet,
Speaker 1: so that doesn't even that. Like people hasn't started. People
Speaker 1: were coming at us on Twitter because they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it looks like you're Anthony Brown predictions. Wrong, am I No,
Speaker 1: that's totally different, Like free agency hasn't even opened. It's
Speaker 1: not the same. Yeah, it's been fun, guys, is it
Speaker 1: over all righty? It's been real. Damn, it's been fun.
Speaker 1: You don't want to do the full hour? Take it
Speaker 1: over David. I thought we were going all the way
Speaker 1: to noon? Are we not? We can? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: girls hungry, but let's do it. I'm just I mean,
Speaker 1: I get we touched on it, but I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: intrigued to see I'm going to fight through this. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I think a big Jimmy Johnson's going
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. But I think a big
Speaker 1: part of the reason the Cowboys are going to Canton
Speaker 1: is Mike McCarthy wants that extra time in Oxnard. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: that's two extra weeks of practice, and he is I
Speaker 1: feel like every time he talks, he talks about how
Speaker 1: concerned he is with like making sure they can hit
Speaker 1: the ground running where I'm like, I'm like, man, the
Speaker 1: offense is you said, the offense isn't going to change
Speaker 1: that much. But it sounds like he's concerned about you know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I don't know how much I buy
Speaker 1: that if you're that worried about it. But it's two
Speaker 1: extra weeks for for them to get everything together, so that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's exciting that they'll have a
Speaker 1: little bit more time to gel. I think he probably
Speaker 1: went out there and said all right, we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll go out for a couple of weeks and steps
Speaker 1: off the plane like everyone does and says, this isn't real.
Speaker 1: Oh I like it about it? Is it like this
Speaker 1: in Gelt? Yeah? Just like this? Oh maybe not just
Speaker 1: like this a little bit warmer, but for the most
Speaker 1: part it's pretty nice. Yeah, we can do we can
Speaker 1: do three weeks. Oh yeah, three weeks here okay, grass
Speaker 1: fields he said he's visiting. Yeah, I think he already
Speaker 1: went to just kind of get the lay of the land.
Speaker 1: And that's again, it's exciting for me that, you know,
Speaker 1: the head coach doesn't know what the facility in Oxnard
Speaker 1: looks like, whereas Jason Garrett freaking could walk around that
Speaker 1: place blindfolded by now you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: what will be different about training camp? There will be
Speaker 1: a lot if the CBA is Yeah, different, Fewer padded practices,
Speaker 1: which again, so you probably want the extra two weeks
Speaker 1: because two weeks under the new CBA's probably only like
Speaker 1: five padded practices or something crazy like that. You were
Speaker 1: padded practice. Yeah, I think it would drop from like
Speaker 1: twenty six to eighteen. I think more days off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but everybody that just means that's when Dak will sign.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll find oh wait, yeah, no, he can't
Speaker 1: do that this year, can't sign. They have to either
Speaker 1: get it done by July or not at all. So
Speaker 1: that's fun. Where will you be vacationing in July when
Speaker 1: this goes down? Hopefully I'll be on a beach and
Speaker 1: I can just text Nick and Robin say have fun,
Speaker 1: thank you. Is that when we think this is going
Speaker 1: to happen? I don't know. I have no idea a
Speaker 1: new deal. I mean they got Tank, they got Tank
Speaker 1: done on April eighth, but Tank also had no No,
Speaker 1: you're right, the shoulder holding it. He had the leverage
Speaker 1: of needing to have a surgery. Now it'll it'll it'll
Speaker 1: happen sooner than you think, because I don't think Dak's
Speaker 1: going to show up. That that is true. Deck does
Speaker 1: have the leverage of saying I don't have to come,
Speaker 1: and I think that matters a lot. What you just
Speaker 1: said about this new offense is going to be different.
Speaker 1: It's like we need you hear about right. I can't
Speaker 1: who's the back April sixth, I can't imagine. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just Cooper Rush is not running this thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll be back. I don't know. There was
Speaker 1: some smoke coming out of Endy that they want to
Speaker 1: pick up his tender, him and Blake Jarwin both, but
Speaker 1: they haven't done it yet. So that's something to watch. Um,
Speaker 1: that's original draft tender which he wasn't drafted. We're not
Speaker 1: going a second round tender on him, are you? I
Speaker 1: don't know, you might have to. I think they want
Speaker 1: to put a second round tender on Blake, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: Sign with that because he's actually played football in the NFL. Actually,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has gotten into a surprising amount of games
Speaker 1: just he has. Yeah, I mean thus two games he's
Speaker 1: he's been in like two or three, maybe four just
Speaker 1: because like the Cowboys were beaten whoever's but so bad
Speaker 1: like one one Yeah, no, I'm just talking about handing off.
Speaker 1: But it's one pass. It's very rare to see a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback come in when it's not because of injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush has done it a handful of times
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have blown people out. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A lot off season questions about potentially picking up a
Speaker 1: different quarterback as well, for your backup. Yeah, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: I brought that up. Bret Brett Hundley. I don't know
Speaker 1: even I don't know if Mike McCarthy likes him anymore,
Speaker 1: but he drafted him. That's I'm curious because I was
Speaker 1: sitting here thinking McCarthy will want his own guy. And
Speaker 1: then we went to Indy and the talk was kind
Speaker 1: of that they want to pick up the round. Did
Speaker 1: he draft Hunley second round? Second or third? I think, right,
Speaker 1: I get I get Hundley and Deshaun Kaiser mixed up.
Speaker 1: You know, that's interesting when you think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about best player and all that
Speaker 1: stuff I talked about. I threw out the quarterback stuff
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, round for Brett Hunley. Okay, you
Speaker 1: should always you should draft quarterbacks as often as possible.
Speaker 1: I was thinking he was a second rounder, and I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, I think you're thinking. I think you're
Speaker 1: thinking of Deshaun Kaiser, who eventually wound up in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: He was a second or third round pick. Because I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this guy drafted second round quarterbacks? With Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: sitting there, like, you should draft a quarterback as often
Speaker 1: as possible, just because you never know when you're going
Speaker 1: to find a Dak or a Brady or a I
Speaker 1: can think of other examples that aren't quite as famous,
Speaker 1: but Romo. I mean, just you know what, use the
Speaker 1: pick that you just got for Cole Beasley if you want.
Speaker 1: Tony Romo's football life. Last night? How was that? It
Speaker 1: was good? It was the second time I've seen it. Interesting,
Speaker 1: it's good. A lot going on on that front too,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning switching it up and my man, my man,
Speaker 1: Tone is making one million less per year to talk
Speaker 1: about football than he was making to play quarterback, so
Speaker 1: he's so good at it. Please all of you who
Speaker 1: want him to be the OC of the Cowboys, please stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not. First of all, you know, nfl ocs make
Speaker 1: like what two million a year, so you're taking like
Speaker 1: an eighty percent pay cut for a way more stressful
Speaker 1: job where nobody likes you. And he wouldn't be that.
Speaker 1: He's always said he would be a defensive coordinator. True,
Speaker 1: Romo would be a defensive coordinator, but not not happening.
Speaker 1: And that like, what's the golf game like for defensive coordinators?
Speaker 1: Not good? No, Tony Romo was also like the most
Speaker 1: hated man in the league, because when you're the quarterback
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, you always are. And now like everybody
Speaker 1: loves him so like he's just literally got in the booth.
Speaker 1: What about him he love? Does Aigman love Romo? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Aigman probably doesn't care. He's like Aigman so established and yeah,
Speaker 1: just he's like, whatever, I'm gonna do my thing. Maybe
Speaker 1: we should have stopped when you so, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're free flowing right now. We're just riffing. We are.
Speaker 1: That's good. It's for lunch forty five seconds to go
Speaker 1: by this time next week, next Wednesday, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: with you guys, with Derek. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: crazy now. That's the day free agency opens, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should push that back a little bit. Show one
Speaker 1: of the two contracts will be done, probably Cooper Cooper,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think Amari Cooper will be locked
Speaker 1: up by the time we come back. I hope that
Speaker 1: doesnt Cowboy for I hope that ages. Well, we'll visit
Speaker 1: it next Winnesday. They signed Cooper, they signed Randall Cobb,
Speaker 1: they sign uh, Robert Quinn and LP. Before we come back.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, No, I just think those are the first
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown, lp Um, Robert Quinn, Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: and Randall Cobb are the first or five that I
Speaker 1: think will be signed them. See, I think that's very true.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if all that will happen by
Speaker 1: the next time we do the burn. No, no, probably not.
Speaker 1: But does your shows taken care of? Derek will be
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