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Speaker 4: So we have hands down my favorite o G A
Speaker 4: person that every time I call him, he responds he
Speaker 4: he's never been Hollywood.
Speaker 2: He's never played this Hollywood game.
Speaker 4: As he was coming here, I told all my friends,
Speaker 4: I said, listen, they said, you know I you know
Speaker 4: what I said, Ice gonna come doub low and walk
Speaker 4: up byself. Absolutely, it's exactly who he is. He's been
Speaker 4: like that ever since I ever knew him. And he
Speaker 4: continues to be the realest person. I. I strive every
Speaker 4: day to try.
Speaker 1: To be like this man.
Speaker 2: When I'm you know, have that many years in this game,
Speaker 2: I would like to be like this stout.
Speaker 1: Stop it.
Speaker 4: And if you don't have Twitter, you should get Twitter
Speaker 4: just to follow this man at final level.
Speaker 2: He drops the daily game every day. I'm always watching.
Speaker 2: I always suspect it.
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Speaker 2: What's that were down?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 2: Look at our bottles?
Speaker 4: Look but this is That's one of the first questions
Speaker 4: I have is because most people that have the experience,
Speaker 4: have the years and have the game, where that like,
Speaker 4: go what happened to the life.
Speaker 2: EXPERI I look like, what's set up?
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 4: Ogs in the game that has been in the game
Speaker 4: as long as you have are.
Speaker 2: Not social media savvy.
Speaker 4: They're not on Instagram, they're not on Twitter, they're not
Speaker 4: on these uh ways that their fans can actually hit you.
Speaker 2: Why did you feel that you embrace social media?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you know when I when I when
Speaker 1: I first started, we used to have a fan clubs,
Speaker 1: you know, and people would write in and then we
Speaker 1: would send them back stuff. And I had my homie
Speaker 1: Shiney Shine ran the fan club, and it was very
Speaker 1: important to get my fans on board and to make
Speaker 1: them feel like they was part of whatever, whatever my
Speaker 1: movement was. So when I got into it, I looked
Speaker 1: at out. I wasn't really into Facebook. I don't have
Speaker 1: a face any because I'm too excited with.
Speaker 2: It, Norrie one.
Speaker 1: I like to let people know, but I'm very private too,
Speaker 1: and I know that social media is the number one
Speaker 1: tool of law enforcement. Not that I'm breaking the law anymore,
Speaker 1: but you just given giving them a fucker so much
Speaker 1: information about yourself. And all the people that watch you
Speaker 1: on social media aren't necessarily your friends. Your enemies could
Speaker 1: be laying in it right there too and pop up
Speaker 1: on your punk ass wherever the fuck, you know. So
Speaker 1: you're just like you really want to lead lead a
Speaker 1: nigga up to your front door. Really, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know. So I got into Twitter, and I liked
Speaker 1: how fast Twitter was, and I just got on there
Speaker 1: and I found a way that I could actually talk
Speaker 1: to my fans and some people. It was a cool
Speaker 1: feeling I mean I block you though. If you say anything,
Speaker 1: I block you. I blocked with the quickness. I got
Speaker 1: a zero dumb fuck policy. If you say anything to
Speaker 1: me that you would normally not say to me in
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 2: Even a bad joke will get your block.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh you think we that much? Friends block?
Speaker 1: You know now that I learned the mute button, it's
Speaker 1: better than the block. Mute is if somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: some dumb fucks talking to you, you hit mute and
Speaker 1: they don't know they blocked, so they keep on talking
Speaker 1: and they just are talking to nobody.
Speaker 2: Teach us how to so they know they don't get
Speaker 2: to you know, some people.
Speaker 1: They like it. Oh yeah, I got ice tea to block,
Speaker 1: like that's.
Speaker 2: Some type of badge, dumb fuck honor or some bullshit.
Speaker 2: You didn't so I just mute you and then you
Speaker 2: think you still talking to me, but no longer. Let's
Speaker 2: make some nowse for drink. Can's learning about the okay,
Speaker 2: So now I want you to take me because a
Speaker 2: lot of ogs.
Speaker 4: They criticized this era, and now that they considered me
Speaker 4: a ogy, I sort of criticized this era, but the
Speaker 4: realist era, a lot of people say the nineties, but
Speaker 4: the realist era was actually the era that took place
Speaker 4: before the nineties, when you had the self destruction, you
Speaker 4: had late air violence, the late eighties. So I want
Speaker 4: you to describe to me that, Like, first of all,
Speaker 4: how in that same vein?
Speaker 1: Yes, but.
Speaker 2: When you first got in the game, what year was
Speaker 2: that I started?
Speaker 1: My first record came out like night well early eighty six,
Speaker 1: eighty six, yeah, yeah, my first single was eighty two,
Speaker 1: so cause you know I was you was in the
Speaker 1: breaking right, yeah, yeah, But I made records with Mellie
Speaker 1: Mail and all that kind of stuff after my first album.
Speaker 1: And you know, I believe that radio and hip hop
Speaker 1: steers the bus to what music is. So at that time,
Speaker 1: the bus was aimed tour groups like Public Anemy Tour,
Speaker 1: care Rest One. So as an artist, you knew they
Speaker 1: were in the studio. You knew Ice Cube was over
Speaker 1: here dropping some shit. You knew Ghetto Boys was coming,
Speaker 1: so you knew you could keep it gainst it, but
Speaker 1: you had to have a political aspect to it. You
Speaker 1: just couldn't be just talking no nonsense. You had to
Speaker 1: come and break it down. So when you know, okay,
Speaker 1: rock Hem's in the studio. You know who else is
Speaker 1: out there. You had to bring a bar up to
Speaker 1: that attempt to attempt to, you know, do your best.
Speaker 1: So there was a degree of difficulty and agree agree
Speaker 1: of respect you wanted along with being able to have
Speaker 1: a good record. Like I didn't people go like, yo, Man.
Speaker 2: I didn't want.
Speaker 1: People to say yo, I like your beat. I like
Speaker 1: niggas to walk up to me and say, yo, Ice,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for what man. I was. You know,
Speaker 1: I was going up north. I was listening to your
Speaker 1: plague yourself.
Speaker 4: But now let me ask you, because I'm so you
Speaker 4: came out before n w A. Yes, so you are
Speaker 4: technically the first gangster rapper ever.
Speaker 2: Not true.
Speaker 1: I get the credit to Schoolly Ds Philly, Yes, Schoolly D.
Speaker 1: Because I was making my records and stuff. But I
Speaker 1: wasn't known. And I was in the club and I
Speaker 1: heard ps K and this ship came on, you know,
Speaker 1: and I called it dust like the music sound like
Speaker 1: he was on Angel, Dust like.
Speaker 2: PSK.
Speaker 1: I've been around the dust, you know, I know what
Speaker 1: I know what that is. And I got some homies
Speaker 1: and Steak dusted and they were looking at you, looking
Speaker 1: at you crazy like, are you do you like me?
Speaker 2: Are you about to stab me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Replace coming out?
Speaker 1: Look yeah, so so schooly d. So I researched this
Speaker 1: record and they say, that's PSK, that's park Side Killers,
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a Philly game. So he was
Speaker 1: singing about it, a game called park Side Killers. So
Speaker 1: I was like, Kim, this is the vibe of that song.
Speaker 1: So when I went in to make six in the Morning,
Speaker 1: I kind of used the and the cadence.
Speaker 2: Guys too long Christmas more.
Speaker 1: Than all right?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now all right now now we're looking
Speaker 2: like drink champs. Sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, so I used the vibe in the cadences of
Speaker 1: ps K to do my first song, which was would
Speaker 1: he say ps.
Speaker 2: K making that green? I say, six? Next morning police
Speaker 2: had my door, so I know, now it makes so
Speaker 2: much okay, And.
Speaker 1: And and then C said that Boys in the Hood
Speaker 1: is part two to six in the morning. So six
Speaker 1: in the morning police had my door. The boys in
Speaker 1: the Hood are always hung, you know. So everyone was
Speaker 1: riding that same kind of cadence and that that smooth vibe.
Speaker 1: But you know, I talked, I took schoolly D and
Speaker 1: I made it really graphic. We would we had oozi's
Speaker 1: and hand grenades and because.
Speaker 4: I probably got But what I'm trying to say is
Speaker 4: even schoolly d like for people that you know who
Speaker 4: school he did is. But he wasn't like a big figure, right,
Speaker 4: So what made you say I'm gonna take this chance
Speaker 4: and stick with it?
Speaker 2: Because you did six in the morning, but you kept going.
Speaker 1: But see, the thing of it was like I wasn't
Speaker 1: no rapper like I was in I was in the
Speaker 1: streets for real, for real, and I just happened to
Speaker 1: get a chance to rap. So I would try to
Speaker 1: rap like New York rappers and stuff, and my homies
Speaker 1: would be like, yo, niggas say that shit you be
Speaker 1: saying because I used to make gang raps.
Speaker 2: I used to make raps like we do a gang rap.
Speaker 1: But like this, let's see uh strolling through the city
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, niggas on my left
Speaker 1: and niggas on my right yelling cut cut rip. That mean, nigga,
Speaker 1: I see now, if you bad enough, come fuck with me.
Speaker 1: I seen another nigga. I say crip again. He say,
Speaker 1: fuck a crip nigga. This is his brim So we
Speaker 1: pulled out the Roscoe. Roscoe said, crack, I look again.
Speaker 1: Nigga was shooting back, so we fell to the ground,
Speaker 1: aimed for his head. One more shot. The nigga was dead.
Speaker 1: We walked over to him, took his gun, spitting his face,
Speaker 1: and began to run. So if you see another nigga
Speaker 1: laying dead in the street and the puddler blood from
Speaker 1: his head to his feet, I hope it's time all
Speaker 1: you bitch ass niggas get hip. This fuck of brim
Speaker 1: nigga its west Side Rolling sixty cos that's gangster d
Speaker 1: What year was that? That was in high school?
Speaker 2: That before?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me tell you something right now. When you
Speaker 4: go to l A, the most famous gangs.
Speaker 2: The Rolling six, Yeah it went that cra high school.
Speaker 2: C Yeah, this hustle.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's from sixties, but I'm I'm from I'm from
Speaker 1: back in the day with Nelsy and Keeta rocking.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, John now you know. But anyway, but
Speaker 2: I mean see.
Speaker 1: I went to Crench, y'all, So y'all had sixties Hoover
Speaker 1: Harlem a tray gangsters, Harlem his thirties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Harlem is the thirties. So they named that from
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Harlem crips, rolling sixties eight trade, gangster, these
Speaker 1: e tgs. They then you have have hoovers, you know,
Speaker 1: and that basically what.
Speaker 2: That center of South anyway.
Speaker 1: Anyway, my nephew man, so the gangster rap cames from
Speaker 1: really rapping about gangster ship. So my homies was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: nigga talk about that ship. We do.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm trying apolicize.
Speaker 4: But the point I'm trying to make is because one
Speaker 4: us on the East Coast, we had only heard like
Speaker 4: us on the East Coast, we were re public enemy fans.
Speaker 2: We were fans of you don't care.
Speaker 4: Us one who people we knew were against them, but
Speaker 4: they were preaching right. So when the West Coast, the
Speaker 4: first time we heard the West.
Speaker 2: Coast like you made me scared to go to the
Speaker 2: West Coast, Like I was like, what the I don
Speaker 2: want to go to preaching the street. I don't want
Speaker 2: to go there for the god.
Speaker 4: I was like, I used to listen to your ship
Speaker 4: secure like I don't want to go there. But whatever
Speaker 4: you and but what made you say that? Because I
Speaker 4: don't want.
Speaker 1: To call it a gangster rap, just the reality rap
Speaker 1: at that point because it wasn't and it wasn't really reality,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't everyone's reality.
Speaker 2: It was just my reality.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying, what made you say, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put this reality wrapped.
Speaker 2: On the forefront and the world is going to gravitate.
Speaker 1: I had no idy fucking it didn't have no I
Speaker 1: just I just had to wrap for the cats in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. Now, the people in my neighborhood, that's what
Speaker 1: you got. You know, you're getting the stage they like,
Speaker 1: niggas say, are set nigga? Rep one eleven nigga when
Speaker 1: you up there Ice? Because you know then I had
Speaker 1: like diplomatic immunity because I was fucking with Downty hunters.
Speaker 1: I was fucking with there That's boys. I was fucking
Speaker 1: with ath and Park boys. I was fun with lots
Speaker 1: of gangs, so I was. I came out with the
Speaker 1: West Coast on my back, all the gangs, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't wearing the color niggas. Niggas was always like what
Speaker 1: Ice is from sixties? Ice is from a Where's ice
Speaker 1: ices from? From Bloodstone villains? Because they see me over
Speaker 1: there chasing chicks and.
Speaker 4: Back then they said that bloods was light skinned and
Speaker 4: darll skin people were crips.
Speaker 1: That was no, no, no, no, really, really, bloods are
Speaker 1: bloods are brims? Mean, that's the real gang, the real gang.
Speaker 1: Where crips in the brims. A cripp refers to you
Speaker 1: is because a brim of first.
Speaker 2: To you is blood. Anything that's not a crip is
Speaker 2: a blood so.
Speaker 1: So so everything else, Like if I'm I'm a seven
Speaker 1: four five nine cripp from a trade crip, everything says
Speaker 1: crip at the end, Inglewood Family, that's a blood gang. Pirout,
Speaker 1: that's a blood game. They're not pirute bloods. It is
Speaker 1: athn Park boys. That's a blood gang than boys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're not a crip, your blood by default, by default,
Speaker 1: because that's where you're from, that's what you are. Well,
Speaker 1: there's there's more crips than bloods, right Cali. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so back to this rap music. So I'm in this
Speaker 1: I'm in this world, right, so I have.
Speaker 2: To make a music that those people will relate to.
Speaker 1: So without claiming a set, because you'll notice, no one
Speaker 1: claimed is set till after ninety two, since till after
Speaker 1: the truth, even Snoop wasn't wearing all that blue. We
Speaker 1: was kind of like, because it was real, you did
Speaker 1: so everybody. I was trying to just kind of like
Speaker 1: let niggas know what you know, Like like I just
Speaker 1: can say, we're gonna let niggas know where we're from.
Speaker 1: Because New York was so powerful, we had to say, well,
Speaker 1: look that's great, but this is where we're from, right,
Speaker 1: And we had to rap about our life. And uh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was hot until I got a
Speaker 1: call from a from from San Francisco and the Fillmore
Speaker 1: West wanted me to perform up there in the Bay.
Speaker 2: And that's not film More Slim Filmore Simmer West is
Speaker 2: is the arena venues, oh venue. I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: getting I'm going there. I'm going there.
Speaker 1: So we get I get to call. They asked me
Speaker 1: what I do is show up there. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not popping in La like that, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a nigga with a record out.
Speaker 2: And then San Diego still considered La.
Speaker 1: Bay.
Speaker 2: That's the Bay, that's a whole nother world. But that's not.
Speaker 1: That's that's seven hours away. So so I'm like, North Cali.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're not popping there? Why would you go
Speaker 1: to I wasn't popping in l A.
Speaker 2: Like you're saying, you know, like how many niggas in
Speaker 2: New York got records out right now?
Speaker 1: But are they popping? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So my record was out.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a ship in l A. I was just
Speaker 1: a nigga trying to make it right. But they wanted
Speaker 1: me up there, so I'm like really, They like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this tell us you'll do the show. I sold the
Speaker 1: show out, so they called me that bigg that show
Speaker 1: sold out. I'm like really, So in other words, I
Speaker 1: was hotter in Frisco than I was in my home town.
Speaker 2: You knew what a sold out show meant at that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they said, no more tickets? They said, would
Speaker 1: you do another show? They said, they said, what you
Speaker 1: doing your back show? I did back to back shows
Speaker 1: and the fill more sold out on one song, six
Speaker 1: in the morning, whatever other bullshit I had to do,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, this ship could be really big,
Speaker 1: Like this is real. Now I'm not really making no
Speaker 1: money with this. I'm still in the street. I'm making
Speaker 1: money doing other things and stuff, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: at that point where you know that dilemma that street
Speaker 1: nigga's running too where they want to get.
Speaker 2: But I always, I always wanted out of the game.
Speaker 2: I didn't I never, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Really like it. I just did it as survival. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons I don't drink like I'm an orphan.
Speaker 1: I have no mother, I have no father, I have
Speaker 1: no sisters.
Speaker 2: I read that you was an offhan. I thought I
Speaker 2: thought that was something I guess.
Speaker 1: So I always felt liquor or weed or drug would
Speaker 1: compromise my position. It would put me in a position
Speaker 1: that if I hit the ground, there's nobody to come
Speaker 1: get me. Dig So, I just got to stay on
Speaker 1: my toes. Dig So, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 1: The water is full of sharks, and I got to
Speaker 1: stay on my toes. You did so, So that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons.
Speaker 4: Just in case you are right right now, Ice, if
Speaker 4: you wanted to a shot of anything, we got your
Speaker 4: You got that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1: I've been like I was a designated driver before there
Speaker 1: was a term.
Speaker 2: For it, because that's what I'm that's not about to act.
Speaker 4: So so you mean, even as a child growing up
Speaker 4: in the gang culture, and I remember, I remember there
Speaker 4: was that, and the West Coast was the people who
Speaker 4: kind of introduced us. A lot of people who credit
Speaker 4: Wu Tang for that, but it was the term Sherm had.
Speaker 4: It's a West Coast.
Speaker 1: It's a cigarette to Sherm that you put the PCP on.
Speaker 2: You never got high, not one, No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was. I've been contact high
Speaker 1: because I've been in one niggas in studios. But when
Speaker 1: I was younger, this one cat, I remember, I might
Speaker 1: have been maybe fifteen or younger, and some guy was like, yo,
Speaker 1: hit the weed, you know, And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to hit the weed. So you was a bitch
Speaker 1: if you don't hit the weed. I said, well, I'm
Speaker 1: a bitch. Make me hit it right while you tripping.
Speaker 1: While you're tripping right. So now that he I stood
Speaker 1: my ground, the next person tried to get me high.
Speaker 1: He go, he don't get high because if he couldn't
Speaker 1: make me do it, no one else Why just became
Speaker 1: the sober cat and the click. Then when I got
Speaker 1: into the real gangster ship, as it got more escalated.
Speaker 1: Whenever I would walk into a room and there would
Speaker 1: be a bunch of people. The one person that didn't
Speaker 1: get high. That was the cat. I keep my eye
Speaker 1: you did because I know he probably got I know
Speaker 1: he got that thing on him and he wonders. That's
Speaker 1: his job.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: If you guys have security, you let your security get high. No,
Speaker 1: so do you got to think about it like that.
Speaker 1: I don't have security.
Speaker 2: You feel me so now why I I always ask me, baby,
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: I I can't wake the highest security for a while.
Speaker 2: For years, you just be you like I mean, I
Speaker 2: remember one time I was shooting the movie. I did
Speaker 2: not know what I was doing. I did not know
Speaker 2: what I was doing.
Speaker 4: I told you to come somewhere at four thirty. You
Speaker 4: got there at four o'clock and you ain't complaining. You
Speaker 4: stood there like was supposed to be here.
Speaker 2: Niggas that make that type of music, we know who
Speaker 2: is official.
Speaker 1: I can listen to you. I can listen to Mob Deep,
Speaker 1: I can listen to different records m P.
Speaker 2: I love you know. If I'm going.
Speaker 1: Political, I like dead presidents like that President. I know
Speaker 1: who and I can I can we through the phony
Speaker 1: niggas too. I'm like how many bricks you saw? Nigga,
Speaker 1: you're only sixteen? Really like that's not a possibility that
Speaker 1: happened like that, Like you know how many shot? How many?
Speaker 2: So I kind of like could I was. I'm a fan,
Speaker 2: so that that comes into play.
Speaker 1: And then also, like I say, all I have is
Speaker 1: my word and I'm not see I'm the kind of
Speaker 1: person I have people that work for me. So if
Speaker 1: I can't be on point, how do I expect them
Speaker 1: to be on the point? So I have to I
Speaker 1: just set that example. So I don't like being late.
Speaker 1: I like to stand on my word. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: gonna show up blate to a drive by and niggas
Speaker 1: say we leaving it six.
Speaker 2: Nigga, you guys, you can't be shown up late. So
Speaker 2: these numbers are important.
Speaker 1: You got to do your numbers.
Speaker 4: But as a person who don't smoke and don't get high,
Speaker 4: do you take life too serious?
Speaker 2: Do you think you take life too serious? A lot
Speaker 2: of people who do that, not at all. I mean
Speaker 2: I enjoy life. I see it for where it is.
Speaker 2: I made it this far.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a more laid back person. I'm just
Speaker 1: a cool person. You know, I'm not. I don't like
Speaker 1: to brag. I don't talk about myself that like in
Speaker 1: that if you don't ask the question, I won't tell you.
Speaker 1: You know, people say, Damn, you're so cool. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: how you get named Ice?
Speaker 2: Nigga?
Speaker 1: Like really, you know?
Speaker 2: Ice is everybody wants to be Ice in the hood.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's a great name. That's
Speaker 2: a very you know.
Speaker 1: People are damn, you could be Ice? Can you be?
Speaker 1: You know? So they gave like bitch and Wyan said, nigga,
Speaker 1: you got that name. Niggas can't take that name from you.
Speaker 1: You went there, you can't take that name from me.
Speaker 1: So you know, can a nigga name Ice be real
Speaker 1: ag all the time and excited and uptight and ship?
Speaker 2: That doesn't work.
Speaker 4: Because you set off in my opinion, when when uh,
Speaker 4: East Coast we had gangster rap, but it wasn't It
Speaker 4: wasn't reality rap. It wasn't you guys had mob style,
Speaker 4: no moms. Something come up before you didn't know, but
Speaker 4: after it okay, this trust me. Every gangster.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
Speaker 4: So you and them so so you when I think
Speaker 4: a West Coast, I don't think a gangster rap. Your
Speaker 4: name is one of the first, if not the first,
Speaker 4: right and and you and you you coined that, so
Speaker 4: did everybody else, kind of gravitated because I believe n
Speaker 4: w A came out, okay.
Speaker 2: But the word gangster rap wasn't out with me.
Speaker 1: The word gangster rap came out, yes, because cube and
Speaker 1: straight out of Compton. He says from a gang called
Speaker 1: niggas with attitudes. He didn't say from a group. He
Speaker 1: said from a gang. So he represented his clique as
Speaker 1: a gang. And then then the pressed coin gangster rap.
Speaker 1: It didn't have a name until they gave it that name,
Speaker 1: but I was But that's why after they did that,
Speaker 1: I said, well, if it's that gangster rap, then I'm
Speaker 1: the original gang you are.
Speaker 2: So that's when it went backwards. Okay, that's now gangs,
Speaker 2: and I'm the old gang. You flipped everybody's wig at
Speaker 2: one point.
Speaker 4: At one point we're sitting back and we see this
Speaker 4: Bishop don Wall, we see these pimps movie, We see
Speaker 4: ice per your ship is slide died and full to
Speaker 4: the side, magnetic. And the way you did it and
Speaker 4: the way you spoke, we knew that you wasn't fronting.
Speaker 4: We knew that you were will and how the pimps
Speaker 4: accepted you. But now it was that the life prior
Speaker 4: to your game.
Speaker 1: Again, what thing of it was is I was on
Speaker 1: the streets hustling, so I didn't sell. I tried to
Speaker 1: sell coke once, but then everybody took the money and
Speaker 1: ran off like I gave. I gave it out to
Speaker 1: my friends and they all came back short.
Speaker 2: So now I am I supposed to kill my friends.
Speaker 1: What I had left, I was just able to make
Speaker 1: the money that I invested back. I said, I can't
Speaker 1: do this no more. But then when I was in
Speaker 1: the arm, every one of them games, everyone no niggas
Speaker 1: had stories like I'm like, yo, I'm I gonna niggas
Speaker 1: understand this. You know, you give out the dope to
Speaker 1: your friend and he comes back with a story. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't do this because now I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to enforced.
Speaker 2: But I can't. It's my money.
Speaker 1: So I got out of that. I tried it.
Speaker 2: I had some way exactly invested my money, but it
Speaker 2: didn't work like that. No, I was more.
Speaker 1: We was more basically jewelry store robbers. We was robbing
Speaker 1: jewelry stores, doing things of that nature. But when I
Speaker 1: was in the Army, I got connected to a pimp
Speaker 1: named Machel, and Machel I used to go hang out
Speaker 1: at his house and he said, you cut for this game, nigga.
Speaker 2: You got them light eyes. You not too much turned
Speaker 2: on by the No no, no, no, my buddies. My
Speaker 2: buddy in the army.
Speaker 1: His girlfriend's sister was a hum a prostitute. So so
Speaker 1: when his girlfriend army, Oh no, Hawaii is like open season,
Speaker 1: you know, because you have all that military Hawaii. I
Speaker 1: was in the Army.
Speaker 2: It was a ranger.
Speaker 1: Soer okay, So so my voice Spicer. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't like using names because I don't know where these
Speaker 1: niggas are at this moment. He might be working for IBM.
Speaker 1: I'm but my boy, Spiceer. His girl was her sister.
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, we're gonna go to this
Speaker 1: party this weekend. But but blind we would go over
Speaker 1: there and it was my man Major's house full of holes.
Speaker 1: So he would look at me be like, yo, I
Speaker 1: mean when you mean working prostitutes, you know, working girls
Speaker 1: lawsuits and they were working on the island of Huaihu.
Speaker 1: You've got you have navy, you have Navy, you have
Speaker 1: marines there, and you have army, and those guys only
Speaker 1: have a weekend. They don't have a lot of times
Speaker 1: to create relationship. And then you have a lot of
Speaker 1: tourists there.
Speaker 2: So by saying the US government sence your holes.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying prostitution is accepted in certain houses.
Speaker 1: To keep it everything, it's always.
Speaker 2: Been in the military.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of It's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: on that island, right, so kind of like it was
Speaker 1: a good place to get your pippin. So I'm over
Speaker 1: there and homeboy was just like, yo, you cut for
Speaker 1: this and this, that and the third. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But I'm in the service.
Speaker 1: And so then when I got home, we was we
Speaker 1: was when we would rob and shit, we had girls.
Speaker 1: We was working plastic. Like these niggas talking about they
Speaker 1: just sliding credit cards. It's an old game. That's an
Speaker 1: old game. Niggas was getting the microfilm and we were
Speaker 1: making the credit cards and we had the military IDs.
Speaker 1: We were printing them and shit, we've been doing that
Speaker 1: ship for years. That's nothing new. This new credit card game.
Speaker 1: Now they got a chip Okay, new game figured that
Speaker 1: one out. Motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass.
Speaker 1: You ain't sliding shipping them, you know how to take
Speaker 1: the credit card sticking that.
Speaker 2: So all these niggas is gonna lose their Gucci belts.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so I'm in that.
Speaker 1: So we we we would always keep females in our
Speaker 1: click and stuff. So eventually I started reading this Iceberg
Speaker 1: slim shit, and I decided I wanted to pimp on
Speaker 1: the bitch.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So my girls was trying to run, They was trying,
Speaker 1: they were looking for they was trying to escape. I remember,
Speaker 1: I just one chick named Mary, So I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, get her out there, like let's go get
Speaker 1: this money and ship like that. And she ran to
Speaker 1: one my partner. It's like, I just pimping on me.
Speaker 1: He's pimping like that.
Speaker 2: And then he come, come me the bitch choosing. I'm like,
Speaker 2: she ain't choosing, nigga, you rest haven for hole to
Speaker 2: get away from the pimping I'm trying to put on.
Speaker 1: But I was close enough. I mean, pimping is not
Speaker 1: very difficult to do. All you just need is a
Speaker 1: girl that's willing to shit and hustle. I wasn't no
Speaker 1: big time pimp like, uh, you know, bishopping them. But
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean every other nigga probably donet
Speaker 1: sent the bitch before. I mean just sending a girl
Speaker 1: to perform the actor prostitution and bring you the money.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what pimping is, all right.
Speaker 1: So I dabbled in all types of levels of the game,
Speaker 1: but I was no knockdown, drag out pimp with a catalog.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you some very difficult let me tell
Speaker 4: you something. Let me take something I watched. Now, I
Speaker 4: watched a couple of other movies, and for a week
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 1: I was a pimp.
Speaker 2: I think it's my wife. This story might get shut down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my wife, love it.
Speaker 1: She's there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So what happened was, let me get story.
Speaker 2: I'll heard. Oh I got some great taking pem story.
Speaker 2: Bishop don't want comes.
Speaker 4: To the hood lab, gives me my cup and says you,
Speaker 4: we're one of the famous players of the year War.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know, because I get why
Speaker 2: he's giving me the famous player the year World War.
Speaker 4: But I know I'm not a pimp, like I really
Speaker 4: do that. So girls, look, you're sleeping high. And I
Speaker 4: walk into this club and I said, bitch, chew.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said this, and the bitch said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I choose you.
Speaker 4: They all of them pimp Juju, good game, all of
Speaker 4: them kidding me and said, nigga, you don't know what
Speaker 4: you're doing. And it's true, but how does that How
Speaker 4: does a person get into pimp?
Speaker 1: I mean, basically, you gotta find a female that's like
Speaker 1: hoose are hose without actually without a pimp. You know,
Speaker 1: every girl knows a girl that thinks that they can
Speaker 1: use that as a method of operating.
Speaker 2: We used to call the strip clip of the indoor.
Speaker 1: Track, you know what I'm saying. So it's like they're
Speaker 1: not actually prostitutes, but they're working inside of an element.
Speaker 1: But it's still the anytime you're actually giving somebody some
Speaker 1: type of sexual for money that you don't like them,
Speaker 1: you're prostituting yourself. Even a woman who's going out to
Speaker 1: dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, she's actually prostituting herself. Even in this business,
Speaker 1: sometimes they ask us to do shit that even sexually,
Speaker 1: and you be like Damn, I feel like I'm giving
Speaker 1: up myself for the money, you understand, But I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you get into any game? You know,
Speaker 1: you desire it, you want it, and then you got
Speaker 1: to find willing participants, you know. So I had these
Speaker 1: girls that were thieves and stuff, and I was trying
Speaker 1: to turn them out into being hoes, but they was
Speaker 1: like they were resisting it.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had I had some crazy story. I
Speaker 1: told one story I told in one of the movies.
Speaker 1: Was me and my partner Gary Burnette, we uh, we
Speaker 1: knock some bra So they was hos from up North
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 2: So we got on our ship and we in there.
Speaker 2: Pimp took them up in the Bay Area.
Speaker 1: But these bitches was real prostitutes, right, so we want
Speaker 1: to be pimps. Were trying to get out, and well
Speaker 1: we figured that out, so we put yeah. So we
Speaker 1: sent the broad so we like, so Gary tent to
Speaker 1: brough to the casino. He riding behind her in the
Speaker 1: car trying to watch the bitch, and the dude in
Speaker 1: the car sees it starts whooping the bitch ass like
Speaker 1: you got a nigga following me through her out the
Speaker 1: out the motherfucking car.
Speaker 2: She getting the car, like, nigga, how long have you
Speaker 2: been doing this?
Speaker 1: Like real?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So that night they get back to the hotel, niggas
Speaker 1: go to sleep. They wake up the next day stole
Speaker 1: his car. See the hose. The hose was smarter than
Speaker 1: the players in that situation. So pipping is difficult. And
Speaker 1: and I don't like a lot of stuff that I've
Speaker 1: been through in my life. I don't promote it has
Speaker 1: something to do. I just say it was something that
Speaker 1: I've been through. I'm not able to promote anything all.
Speaker 1: All crime and all hustles are negative at the base
Speaker 1: of them, you know. But you know, at the moment
Speaker 1: you ever see Fargo, well, I quote that line, it
Speaker 1: seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, in my circumstances what was around me drug dealers, killers, gangsters.
Speaker 1: I thought, well, ship, since I'm flying, I got long hair,
Speaker 1: maybe I should be fucking with these girls. But I
Speaker 1: didn't make no fortune off of that. I made most
Speaker 1: of my money Robin Jury's stores, that Rob jew st
Speaker 1: That's what we did. An occasional bank. But that's what
Speaker 1: that's what my click is. Occasional bank get to.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I heard a story, Oh, you and ben Zeno having conflict.
Speaker 4: Yeah, be Xeno actually being on the West coast, and
Speaker 4: ben Zeno's described it as you having two hundred different
Speaker 4: gang members with you.
Speaker 2: He said you could have actually killed him there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you walked over now, you walked over to you. Yes,
Speaker 1: the thing of it is killing people is not that simple.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you carry that with you forever? So
Speaker 1: you can't just you know a lot of times, you
Speaker 1: know it was a dispatching nigga and you just choose
Speaker 1: not to do you want to sleep with that on
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 2: That's not my thing.
Speaker 1: You know. I'll protect myself, but I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: going to attack a person. So what happened was back
Speaker 1: during the cop killer days. I said both had cop
Speaker 1: killer songs. Recorrect, But we were both on Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1: But he was with a group called Marco Might. So
Speaker 1: what happened was when I pulled out for Warner Brothers
Speaker 1: because the president was after me, and shit got hot
Speaker 1: and I ended up pomp and pulling. The Source magazine
Speaker 1: came down and said Ice is a coward. He gave
Speaker 1: in I'm like, how am I character the president of
Speaker 1: the United States is after me.
Speaker 2: This is real ship.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait, wait wait talking about what you just
Speaker 4: said over the talk about so you just said, wait
Speaker 4: them you just said the cop killer record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got hot.
Speaker 2: And then and then the.
Speaker 1: President Bush Bush, son of a Bush, was the son
Speaker 1: of a Bush? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Bush was on
Speaker 1: my ass and so was dan Quail. And they said
Speaker 1: they was after me. They was like, they was, yeah,
Speaker 1: they wanted my head. They Ali North wanted to try
Speaker 1: me for sedition, which is punishable by death.
Speaker 2: They was on my bumper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they was on my bumper for this song cock Killers.
Speaker 1: This was a major situation. So you know, we pulled
Speaker 1: the record off a warner and all the rap niggas
Speaker 1: had something to say about it, like, oh niggas you know,
Speaker 1: giving in now. Chuck Deese stood his ground, said, look,
Speaker 1: if y'all ain't in the war, you shouldn't come in
Speaker 1: on the battles. You don't know what's going on. This
Speaker 1: ship is real. Real secret service pulled my daughter out
Speaker 1: of school and chaskeer was I connected to paramilitary organ
Speaker 1: They wanted to see if I was really a threat. See,
Speaker 1: this is nori. This is the problem. When the president
Speaker 1: says your name, the deepest background check of your life
Speaker 1: happens instantly. They know everything from your shoe side to
Speaker 1: your mother's blood type.
Speaker 2: Why because this next question could be.
Speaker 1: What do we know about him? They can't be he's
Speaker 1: a rapper. They like, this is this, this is this,
Speaker 1: this is this, this is it. It happens instantly, So
Speaker 1: when that happens to you, you feel it. It's a
Speaker 1: long story short. I'm going through this bullshit. So Rs
Speaker 1: Benzeno and them come out and make some statement. Your
Speaker 1: ice tease a sucker because he pulled and because he
Speaker 1: pulled that car pulled the record. I pulled the record.
Speaker 1: Cop Killer was on the first body Count album. Okay,
Speaker 1: I pulled cop Killer off and put a record called
Speaker 1: Freedom of Speech. I did it because I didn't want
Speaker 1: them to pigeonhole me. And in my career right there,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of other shit.
Speaker 2: I need to say. It's not just about this one song.
Speaker 1: They were trying to take a nigga out New jack
Speaker 1: City two didn't happen because of that record. All kinds
Speaker 1: of shit.
Speaker 2: WHOA dude? When I say it was on my shit, whoa?
Speaker 2: It was like you said, it was bigger than rap.
Speaker 1: So Benzino or whoever whatever spokesperson made this comment, Well,
Speaker 1: you know I was.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I was under siege at that point. I didn't need
Speaker 1: no rap niggas popping off like this nigga is that?
Speaker 1: And the third I'm like, nigga don't really even know
Speaker 1: what's going on right. So of course niggas in my circle,
Speaker 1: we knew who our enemies were are. We always keep
Speaker 1: niggas abreasto who's out there. So they popped up on
Speaker 1: our charts like okay, these niggas areso's popping off about
Speaker 1: ice this niggas popping you know, we know who's you know,
Speaker 1: who might not be a friend. So we were at
Speaker 1: an event and uh, there they were and there I was,
Speaker 1: and niggas seen them before me. Niggas like, yo, ain't
Speaker 1: thatt them niggas and uh I want pre internet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he saw two hundred niggas. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how many niggas I had, but I was, I
Speaker 1: had the whole West coast with me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He said, I had the whole West coast
Speaker 1: with me. So I just walked up on him I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: whatever you niggas think I said, it did all this
Speaker 1: robbers uncalled for Man, I did what I had to
Speaker 1: do and it didn't affect y'all. Just all it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well and they kind of like renigged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we was mad, we was hot. It was
Speaker 1: an interview.
Speaker 2: There was really no beef. It was just a missing communication.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: It was a miscommunicator. How to speak, and that's what
Speaker 1: real men do. That's what real men do.
Speaker 4: So you know that was it, But I won't but
Speaker 4: I want you to describe this cop Killer record because
Speaker 4: you single handedly made the world.
Speaker 2: Pay attention to rap by this cop Killer record. Now,
Speaker 2: it wasn't now.
Speaker 4: Now it's a record that these young brothers would love
Speaker 4: to praise.
Speaker 2: But what made what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What made you even think about make a great quill record.
Speaker 1: We were in the studio making you know, body count,
Speaker 1: and uh I was singing a song by a group
Speaker 1: called the Talking Head.
Speaker 2: It's called psycho Killer Psychical Killer C.
Speaker 1: So I'm singing that and my drummer, beat Master v
Speaker 1: rest In Peace goes, we need a cop killer right now?
Speaker 2: What you ain't had no police No, we had a
Speaker 2: police people. This is free Rodney King.
Speaker 4: You know, we know what the cops is doing before Rodney. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my nigga's like, yo, you know, Vicker's right there
Speaker 1: on the front line. So he like, yo, man, we
Speaker 1: need a cop killer. You know. The cops rolled up
Speaker 1: on such and such, they shot him, They dragged his baby,
Speaker 1: mom's you know, this Dulo ship. And so I started
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and I said, yeah, what if somebody
Speaker 1: snapped and this went on one after the cops based
Speaker 1: on police brutality. And that's the hook is cop killer
Speaker 1: is better you than me? Cop killer. Fuck police brutality.
Speaker 1: Cop killer. I know your family's grieving. Fuck them, cop killer.
Speaker 1: Tonight we get even. And so it was more about
Speaker 1: this guy who lost his mind based around police brutality,
Speaker 1: which just recently happened. Now people actually have started taking
Speaker 1: off on the cops. It took a little while, but
Speaker 1: I predicted it. I wasn't promoting it. I was singing
Speaker 1: the third you know, the first person. I become different
Speaker 1: people in my records. That's just part of the art.
Speaker 1: You know. I could sing. It's like if I was
Speaker 1: a heroin addict and I never been on it, but
Speaker 1: I can sing and act like it and give you
Speaker 1: an imagery of it.
Speaker 4: You did so now, But that scrutiny it started from
Speaker 4: the president. The President's started with.
Speaker 1: The Fraternal Order of Police out of Dallas Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: They came after me because.
Speaker 1: During this no they just said that Warner Brothers put
Speaker 1: out this inflammatory record and they should be banned and boycotted.
Speaker 1: And then Charlton Hesson came out and they just went
Speaker 1: on one. Because of the time, the cops were under
Speaker 1: siege for doing the same shit they doing now. This
Speaker 1: was back then, so the best way to take the
Speaker 1: heat off them is to attack somebody else. So they
Speaker 1: picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing. They
Speaker 1: picked me as a target and so they came down like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the house, let me date myself. We
Speaker 1: were playing Techno Bowl. Rem me that. So I'm playing
Speaker 1: Techno Bowl and Nigga comes one of my homies, like Yo,
Speaker 1: Ice is on TV right now the President is talking
Speaker 1: shit about you.
Speaker 2: Were like, what yo really?
Speaker 1: For real? Were like, we changed the channels and it's
Speaker 1: Dan Quail the Vice President and Ice tea Niggas. It
Speaker 1: was like that you ever did want of them old
Speaker 1: shits like oh shit, oh shit, like oh like we knew.
Speaker 2: This was big, and then it just started to happen.
Speaker 2: You know, you could feel them.
Speaker 1: You know that I got tax started it three times
Speaker 1: into two year period. I had ice cream trucks sitting
Speaker 1: in front of my house in the middle of the winter,
Speaker 1: you know, because they had to really figure out was
Speaker 1: I trying to call people to arms, which I wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was just a record. It was just a protest song.
Speaker 1: So you know, I lived through that and I found
Speaker 1: out who my friends were. You know, they don't care
Speaker 1: about hip hop. Hip Hop can back you, but when
Speaker 1: hip hop backs you, hip hop is one big nigga.
Speaker 1: Just it's just one nigga. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: how many rappers come to your aid. That's just one nigga.
Speaker 1: You need someone outside of hip hop to back if
Speaker 1: you get in trouble. All the rap could band together.
Speaker 1: We are all just one nigga that you need.
Speaker 2: You need. Maybe Quincy Jones come out. You know who's not.
Speaker 1: Considered a nigga you know something, but yeah, might still
Speaker 1: be considered But no, that's what they'll do when he
Speaker 1: if he came after saying that, well, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a rapper, and they'll throw him in there with Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need someone outside, you know, Martin Scorsese, you're someone
Speaker 1: to coming.
Speaker 2: Back Tarantino in the back. He's a nigga.
Speaker 1: He went up against the college, someone who's unexpected to
Speaker 1: back you. So anyway, I took the heat, and you know,
Speaker 1: I wrote it out like you know, I didn't bring
Speaker 1: anybody else into it. I didn't say, hey, this other
Speaker 1: rap group, of this rock group. I just handled it
Speaker 1: myself the way I've been. You know, I was raised
Speaker 1: by geez and I still adhere to that code. You know,
Speaker 1: that's your drama. You deal with it. You did, so
Speaker 1: I dealt with it.
Speaker 2: And you know, and if it wasn't because I mean
Speaker 2: it was you, then Uncle Luke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you first, then Uncle Luke, right, and
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke then death Row, then death bro the w A.
Speaker 2: He was the first.
Speaker 7: But what I'm saying the leaves right right, Yeah, it
Speaker 7: was they got they got the president was fb.
Speaker 1: F B. I was yah. But then they dropped death
Speaker 1: Row with Ted Turner because they were concerned it was
Speaker 1: it was a ripple effect.
Speaker 7: Warwick was involved and all these people and Lauris talking,
Speaker 7: let me.
Speaker 2: Give you a jewel.
Speaker 1: Though it's not hip hop that they were afraid of.
Speaker 1: They were afraid the fact that white kids were getting
Speaker 1: this information. It's like, as long as you sing to
Speaker 1: the hood, no one really cares because they already say
Speaker 1: we won, big nigga. But once we express it and
Speaker 1: they see their little daughters is walking around for the
Speaker 1: police and cock killer, and then now you're infecting the
Speaker 1: rest of the world, and that's when you become a threat.
Speaker 1: So that's when when they saw me have you know,
Speaker 1: thousands of white kids yelling the police with me, they
Speaker 1: were like, we gotta deal with this cat, right because
Speaker 1: he's infected. That's why one of my alms was called
Speaker 1: home invasion, because it was me saying, you know, we've
Speaker 1: invaded your kids. You know we're in there.
Speaker 4: You've got a different cops And now that you play one, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm going there, Charlie, I got I got mention it
Speaker 4: to my man.
Speaker 2: Let's say that's a great interview. Let's say Drake Champs
Speaker 2: interview questions. You know you're doing interview and the niggas
Speaker 2: and you dumb questions, you like, how long.
Speaker 1: You've been in the NBA. What are you talking about
Speaker 1: it now?
Speaker 2: The cop Killer one of my favorite records of all time.
Speaker 4: Still to this days, I still want to create I
Speaker 4: actually think I created this record over but I didn't
Speaker 4: do it justice you do it.
Speaker 1: I am mon.
Speaker 4: If y'all know the record, If you're real hip hop,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna open another bottle. We already got bottles open.
Speaker 4: Come over here, come over, youre the bar, but relax.
Speaker 2: Relax, that's right there. I want everybody, if you real
Speaker 2: hip hop, to sing along, help me sing along.
Speaker 1: Ice.
Speaker 2: I am a night man, walking psychopath talking walking yo.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: From when what was the movie? Let me let me
Speaker 2: run it before it was that? Was that inspire? Or
Speaker 2: before the movie? Did you already know?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 4: Let me take it to where we was going live
Speaker 4: to where I was going. I hadn't heard of California
Speaker 4: at this time.
Speaker 2: What yeah, it was Colors. Can you google it has
Speaker 2: someone to be that's gonna be like ninety two. It's
Speaker 2: ninety two. I think it's you got.
Speaker 4: But I had heard of California. We had we had,
Speaker 4: we had, we had you know, we're all visions of California.
Speaker 4: But this is the first time in my opinion. This
Speaker 4: is the original California Love Colors, And when.
Speaker 1: I heard that, when I sink the movie, I had
Speaker 1: no idea that was popping off, right, What.
Speaker 2: The fuck was going on on the West Coast? All
Speaker 2: I used to see was beaches, right.
Speaker 4: I had no idea even get killed in California until Colors,
Speaker 4: Like I had.
Speaker 2: I knew about cock Killer, but I was just like
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Yeah, but Colors was before Colors. Was
Speaker 2: Colors before Yeah Colors.
Speaker 1: What happened with Colors was they was doing this movie
Speaker 1: called Colors. Dennis Hopper was directing it, and apparently they
Speaker 1: it was going to be a Warner Brothers film, and
Speaker 1: due to the fact it was Warner Brothers film, I
Speaker 1: was the first rapper signed to Warner Brothers, so they're gonna,
Speaker 1: of course look at my music first. So they had
Speaker 1: they wanted to use the song I did called Squeeze
Speaker 1: the Trigger off my first album, and.
Speaker 2: But the movie was already done.
Speaker 1: You got a movie still, so they got they got
Speaker 1: They got this scene with Don Chietle in it, you
Speaker 1: know rocket, he was listening to my song. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: let me if you want to if you want to
Speaker 1: use my song. Let me see the movie.
Speaker 2: That's just right accent. Damn.
Speaker 1: So I got to see the movie. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the movie. I'm like, Okay, there's some wrong shit
Speaker 1: in it because at the time the Blacks wasn't fighting
Speaker 1: the Mexicans, you know, there was some other stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, it still kind of gives.
Speaker 1: You an overall. You know, the most real ship is
Speaker 1: when you see the tank in the county with thirty
Speaker 1: eight hundred and the Crips and the Bloods across with
Speaker 1: the fence. Yeah, that was a powerful yeah, but they
Speaker 1: never let that man niggas out at the same time.
Speaker 2: But wait, wait, wait, scene again.
Speaker 1: There's where you see them coming at the crypt module
Speaker 1: and you see the crypt module on one side and
Speaker 1: the Blood module on Yeah, okay, okay, and they're in
Speaker 1: that Yeah. Well, no, they never let that many people out.
Speaker 1: And also, in jail, you don't wear all the colors
Speaker 1: like that. Oh you know, so they let them in jail.
Speaker 1: You're in a uniform by this point, but they showed
Speaker 1: it like that to kind of you know. So I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there so I'm like, I'm not gonna quicktiupe that out.
Speaker 1: I'm happy they're making the movie now. When they wanted
Speaker 1: to do the movie, first they said, let's shoot it
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and then Dennis Hopperson, let's shot it in La.
Speaker 1: The people said, we have gangs in LA that oh,
Speaker 1: so it would have been about Chicago. Well, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They wanted to make a movie about gangs, but they
Speaker 1: didn't know there were gangs in LA. That year, three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty kids had died, almost one a day
Speaker 1: in LA, but no one even it wasn't spoken. It's
Speaker 1: like black lives matter, No one talks about us. We
Speaker 1: were just getting killed. So so I'm like, okay. So
Speaker 1: I watched the movie, so I said, do they have
Speaker 1: a title song? And they had a song, and if
Speaker 1: you want to track the movement, get the color soundtrack.
Speaker 1: B side last record is a song by Rick James
Speaker 1: called Colors. It's wack. It's like Rick James, look at
Speaker 1: all these colors, you know, Rick James out. So I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: I can't fuck. So I told Africa Islam, who was
Speaker 1: producing me at the time, I said, let's make a record.
Speaker 1: I said, I know this gang ship like the back
Speaker 1: of my hand. I mean, let's take him in the
Speaker 1: brain of a gang banger.
Speaker 2: So at the time I was vibing here's another something
Speaker 2: you never know.
Speaker 1: I was vibing off for Kings Sons record Mythological mytho logical,
Speaker 1: my myth, the myth a lot. Remember, he comes on
Speaker 1: when I get ill, it's a reason because it's the season.
Speaker 1: Why I am a nightmare walking psychopath talking that.
Speaker 2: I think, rap.
Speaker 1: You're influencing each other. You're not biting because you never knew.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm like, yo, I'm coming in like King's
Speaker 1: son because he said when I get ill, it's a
Speaker 1: reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Front.
Speaker 3: You know, I like that.
Speaker 2: Shit is hard.
Speaker 1: If I just came in, I am a nightmare walk
Speaker 1: in psycho bath talk, same shit. So I wrote the song,
Speaker 1: did the video. It was so big people thought I
Speaker 1: was in the movie. People walking to me like, y'all
Speaker 1: saw you in color.
Speaker 2: In Colors. Yeah, not in the movie. And I saw
Speaker 2: the movie so many times. But now that movie the
Speaker 2: song might be bigger.
Speaker 4: That movie was single handley the introduction to California lifestyle
Speaker 4: and put.
Speaker 1: Me in the game. Because all my other records I
Speaker 1: was still bubbling, but that was a national hit. I
Speaker 1: mean that crossed all and that, and everybody wanted to
Speaker 1: see the guy that made color.
Speaker 2: So I went out on the Dope Jam tour.
Speaker 1: With Eric B and Rock Kim, Dougie Fresh, CuMo d
Speaker 1: bizmarcky uh and and I was out there with them.
Speaker 1: I was on the West West coast.
Speaker 2: Have been crazy.
Speaker 1: We performed that song and that we shut him down.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because Eric B and them
Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, l a niggas. They
Speaker 1: had that New York ship going and they you know,
Speaker 1: they had to change and Supreme Uh Mathematics screaming great
Speaker 1: magnetic was out of it from the sept comes of Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: So we got we My intel had told me, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got my own intel. I'm like the CIA that like, okay,
Speaker 1: he's the one. Watch him, he's a shooter.
Speaker 2: We watch him. Who are these niggas. I don't walk
Speaker 2: in there. I don't walk I know.
Speaker 1: What's going on. So they was like, okay, this one's live.
Speaker 1: And there's one right there and he's cool. So they
Speaker 1: was looking at us. They had no idea who we were.
Speaker 1: And we showed up.
Speaker 2: They was like, oh, these are l A gang members,
Speaker 2: like this is crazy.
Speaker 1: We had all the we had just the same ship
Speaker 1: they had, but the West Coast version of it. And
Speaker 1: when I hit the scene, I came out and I
Speaker 1: opened with Colors on the tour and this ship rocked
Speaker 1: like I just.
Speaker 2: Came out that that should give you, do you?
Speaker 1: And stadium rage and all of a sudden, car rests
Speaker 1: once start talking to me.
Speaker 2: Everybody on the.
Speaker 1: Door realized that I was pulling my weight out of here,
Speaker 1: and we all became close friends where I came and
Speaker 1: I are friends today, but they re sized me up
Speaker 1: about the gate.
Speaker 4: No, but did you understand that Colors in a way
Speaker 4: like right now you can look at you going to
Speaker 4: the Harlem and I'm sure because you live in New
Speaker 4: York for real, right Like you're not a fake guy
Speaker 4: who just visits New York, New York Jersey. You around,
Speaker 4: You've been around places i'd be at.
Speaker 2: I'm like dad over that. Yeah, So did you ever
Speaker 2: think that from Colors.
Speaker 1: That New York would be gang banging the way New
Speaker 1: York is? I still don't truly understand it. Like I
Speaker 1: roll with Tretch a lot right in tresh he blood
Speaker 1: it's over in Jersey with the bloods. But you know,
Speaker 1: I can't really get it, totally understand it. But one
Speaker 1: thing I do understand is respect a nigga with a gun.
Speaker 1: You know. You know, I'm gonna walk up to a
Speaker 1: nigga say, well, you a fake gang banger. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a fake bullet.
Speaker 8: Take this, you know.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're from LA and you hear guys
Speaker 1: in other cities saying they're Hoover crips, but they never
Speaker 1: seen the street, or they're you know, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, their sixties, but they're from Florida.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, how is that possible?
Speaker 1: Sixties is the street, and the sixties all of them
Speaker 1: are thirties of the street. The forties are a street
Speaker 1: h S eighty third Street. It's usually the hottest street
Speaker 1: in that ten block radius. Is the street that gets
Speaker 1: named like one eleven's twelve. Oh So so you know,
Speaker 1: I learned, but I know how it happened. What happened
Speaker 1: was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped
Speaker 1: coming through Florida, it started to come through Mexico. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't even tell this story.
Speaker 2: Nobody listens to us US game and this is old game.
Speaker 1: But what happened was the coke became less expensive than California,
Speaker 1: and as it moved across the country, it became instantly
Speaker 1: like a key with double.
Speaker 2: So everybody in LA was trying to put the game
Speaker 2: on the road.
Speaker 1: So you got a cousin in Seattle, right, So you
Speaker 1: send a couple of homies up to Seattle, and you say, okay,
Speaker 1: at this point, y'all niggas playboy gangster crips because that's
Speaker 1: what set me from And these niggas are from Seattle
Speaker 1: and they don't really know about it. But then there's
Speaker 1: some real lifeboat and we take these niggas and get
Speaker 1: them khakis and shit like that. Then maybe you might
Speaker 1: send a nigga from LA to put some work in.
Speaker 1: They ain't never seen violence like that before. You know,
Speaker 1: they turned out and they move and wait, and this
Speaker 1: happens all over the country. Niggas coming from Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: So there's somebody from LA that took that gang out there.
Speaker 1: Now are they respected in LA well to an extent,
Speaker 1: But you can't come I don't care if you're from whatever,
Speaker 1: Wyoming or whatever. And you come to LA and you
Speaker 1: actually in Hoover's hood and you claiming Hoover you're gonna
Speaker 1: bow down that street, that actual street. The nigga's on
Speaker 1: that block, that's the g's So you know, I was
Speaker 1: up in Harlem and I met some bloods, right, So
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, a nigga I used to blood
Speaker 1: some I'm like like that. I said, okay, like that
Speaker 1: he said you was the crypt right, and they're like yes,
Speaker 1: it was cool. I'm like, well, you ain't cool with me,
Speaker 1: you know, like if your nigga's really banging, right, I said, well,
Speaker 1: gang banging is the act of murder. So then they
Speaker 1: was like they was like, I said so much, said
Speaker 1: show me a blood sign. So they did like this.
Speaker 1: I was like, turn it upside down. I said that's
Speaker 1: a blood sign too. They were excited. They were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a pirute. Okb okay, so he does a bad
Speaker 1: I just turned it upside I said that's a blood sign.
Speaker 2: Like I'm giving him gang tutoring. They were like thank you.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, man, but nobody that comes from
Speaker 1: that wants it to happen. The gang thing happened when
Speaker 1: we were young kids was out there, we were protecting
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and it got taken out of control once
Speaker 1: the drugs came in. Once the drugs came in, it's
Speaker 1: split into little sets. So now cryps is fighting crips.
Speaker 1: Blood niggas don't care what color.
Speaker 4: So you're saying back then, crips wasn't fighting Chris because
Speaker 4: it seems like crips always.
Speaker 2: Have beeper Crypt No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: If you was a crypt, was a cry But now
Speaker 1: it's sets. The sets just splintered. They splintered. So say,
Speaker 1: for instance, we all won Crypt set and then you
Speaker 1: got the sack and you, like nigga, we the nor
Speaker 1: re crypts now us for this splinter And that's what happened, he.
Speaker 3: Said, because the price of the drugs went down, like
Speaker 3: when Escobar went down and it all started going through Mexico.
Speaker 1: That greed, it's creedy. It's just greed. It's like changing trading.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the trade came to La, but greed, greed,
Speaker 1: it's just you.
Speaker 2: He's the boss. You start counting his money.
Speaker 1: As soon as the side nigga starts counting the bosses money,
Speaker 1: you have the potential or deceit anything. It happened, so
Speaker 1: you always telling me, man, nor he's making a little
Speaker 1: bit too much money.
Speaker 2: Why are you counting the boss's money?
Speaker 1: Man? Why are you worrying about what he's making? And
Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna say, man, let's go this way. And
Speaker 1: that happens in any type of.
Speaker 4: Organization, gang culture. Let me ask you a question, and
Speaker 4: gang culture, can there ever be one leader or no?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the leader of each set. I rolled with a
Speaker 1: dude named Tony Bogart who was the leader of Imperial
Speaker 1: Courts of the PJ.
Speaker 2: Watts Crips, which is a whole project.
Speaker 1: And I seen him walk into a like a wreck
Speaker 1: room a room, and I've seen a hundred niggas stand
Speaker 1: up and like when he and get quiet until he
Speaker 1: came in and they sat down. I'm like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know that was a g but they killed him. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know he's gone. I mean, you know, the thing
Speaker 1: about gang membership, the thing about crime period is everyone
Speaker 1: is a liar, a cheater, a thief, a double. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a group of bandits, so anything can
Speaker 1: fucking happen. You know, you hope there's loyalty inside of it,
Speaker 1: but you're dealing.
Speaker 2: A bunch of murderers.
Speaker 1: Everyone is cold blooded, you know, to your your idea
Speaker 1: is to get the fuck out of there as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. You know. That's why I'm square as a
Speaker 1: pool table twice as green. I wouldn't still a nickel
Speaker 1: off the mantlepiece. Man, I'm not really, I'm not really,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm fortunate I live through it, but it's
Speaker 1: not what I'm about no more. I don't want to
Speaker 1: live like that. Man.
Speaker 2: That's just crazy.
Speaker 4: Now, Ice, you survive the h the scrutiny from the
Speaker 4: cop killer record?
Speaker 1: You you you?
Speaker 4: You pull out the Colors records. Color records bring you everywhere?
Speaker 4: Now where is Ice at when he hears n w
Speaker 4: A the ball Plice?
Speaker 2: Well, you remember where us that? When you well, I
Speaker 2: knew you know, I knew n w A because n
Speaker 2: w A used to open for me.
Speaker 1: We used to go out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just said that, man, nonchalotly. I had to
Speaker 2: be around Colors too as well.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do Cube take out nw A. We would
Speaker 1: all tour together, would be NWA iced t DC. And
Speaker 1: then when Easy put out his record, they split it
Speaker 1: and they tried to, you know, do Easy with another group,
Speaker 1: and we would all go all over the place together.
Speaker 1: We used to fight together. We used to get out
Speaker 1: there and get it gone because we were West Coast,
Speaker 1: you know, Cuban Mayor like brothers.
Speaker 2: I love Cube like we were close. I used to
Speaker 2: when they.
Speaker 1: Came out with fuck the Police. We was out there rapping.
Speaker 1: We was out there rapping, and they hit him in
Speaker 1: the head with that, I'm like, oh shit. But see,
Speaker 1: I always knew the first time you heard it was
Speaker 1: on tour though, yeah, because Easy and them were playing
Speaker 1: it before they dropped it. So I heard it on
Speaker 1: the radio. I'm like, oh, y'all niggas about to go there.
Speaker 1: Cause I used to say I used to say fuck
Speaker 1: the police on my shows, right, So I don't When
Speaker 1: I would before I would do six in the morning,
Speaker 1: I would go out and I would say, Yo, the
Speaker 1: police told me I can't do this song right. And
Speaker 1: then I would like, get the audience pipped up, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I say fuck the police, and
Speaker 1: the crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went
Speaker 1: off in Easy's head, like I have something right here.
Speaker 3: I say that.
Speaker 2: But I used to say, I say I had an echo.
Speaker 2: I said, my name is iced T.
Speaker 1: I gotta rep like a killer killer. No one gets Wilder,
Speaker 1: no one gets illa Illa. I don't get high, I
Speaker 1: don't drink Miller Miller. But if your girl's empty, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I can fill it filler. I make stupid ass
Speaker 1: records because I just don't care. Motherfuckers can't even play
Speaker 1: my ship on the air. But y'all know you like it,
Speaker 1: you say you want more, because every time I leave
Speaker 1: the crib to go to the store, I hear six
Speaker 1: in the morning police at my door. I was with
Speaker 1: them at the time, and you know, it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a movement, and I always knew and to me, honestly,
Speaker 1: nw A I needed n w A because I was
Speaker 1: by myself and to have four more cats.
Speaker 2: Roll yeah, yeah, yeah. We weren't enemies.
Speaker 1: So it's like, and you know now, they would always
Speaker 1: hit harder than me because I'm one rapper versus a
Speaker 1: gang of motherfuckers rapping, and it sounds better when people
Speaker 1: are spitting on top of each other.
Speaker 2: But and then they wrote some incredible records. Then they
Speaker 2: had Jack No Drag the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: No No, they're from different areas, Cubans from one hundred
Speaker 1: and twentieth Street. I'm from the forties and like so
Speaker 1: I knew dub cub C used to be beat box
Speaker 1: for Clientele who was in the Wrecking gl So, but
Speaker 1: that's the thing. LA is a small tree, like you
Speaker 1: guys are hip hop Oh here is a big tree.
Speaker 1: Everything in LA is either NWA and who they became,
Speaker 1: the syndicate, my crew and who they became, which included
Speaker 1: Cyprus Hill which crew's ever last when and in Latin
Speaker 1: them or a few groups that were on Delicious Vinyl,
Speaker 1: which was Tone Lok and Young MC.
Speaker 2: So if there's beef in LA, you could call me
Speaker 2: Q Snoop, you know, and shut.
Speaker 1: It down because there's only it's everyone that comes up
Speaker 1: from under us. So that's why the only time there
Speaker 1: was ever bee from the West Coast was family feud
Speaker 1: when they fought and everybody just had to step back
Speaker 1: because How'm gonna get between Easy and Q when I know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a family fuse.
Speaker 4: So when Fuck Devolice came out, did you know exactly
Speaker 4: what they was gonna go through at that?
Speaker 1: I had no idea because because you were the first,
Speaker 1: we were hardcore wrapped though they weren't really fucking with
Speaker 1: us like that. I didn't have no idea that the
Speaker 1: police would intervene. I had no idea they were actually
Speaker 1: gone through the body counting yet. Yeah, we were going
Speaker 1: through cursing ship. None came out first. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I got my history fucked. Yeah. I thought cop Killer
Speaker 1: came off. No, no, no, cock Killer didn't come out
Speaker 1: to Uh. Body count didn't come out to the OG
Speaker 1: album came out, So that was later. But they did
Speaker 1: it first, and we were already getting in Trump for cursing.
Speaker 1: This is how bullshit shows at shows. Remember this, If
Speaker 1: you curse, we're gonna arrest you. That was you can't curse.
Speaker 1: So they would show up at the shows and show
Speaker 1: us that ship, and then what we would do is
Speaker 1: we would do the show and the cops would be
Speaker 1: on the side, and they used to shut the lights
Speaker 1: off and I would jump off into the pit and
Speaker 1: run out the side, so we would run from the
Speaker 1: cops and then we would get the tour bus and
Speaker 1: we would.
Speaker 2: Get to the next state. He really paved the way
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 4: That's just one of the total perspectives when a person
Speaker 4: says it like that. Because Luke said it, and I
Speaker 4: thought Luke was being bad, I didn't know Luke was
Speaker 4: being bad for cursing.
Speaker 1: I thought Luke was being bad for being vulgar and
Speaker 1: the Bible belt when you're down there, Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's yeah.
Speaker 2: They were running that kind of still, like that.
Speaker 1: They would show up at the show with a piece
Speaker 1: of paper that says, if you curse, we will shut
Speaker 1: the show. That wow, And and that was my cue
Speaker 1: to go harder, like, yo, fuck that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, We're gonna come out here. And I would
Speaker 1: always say the police warn me, and you know, that
Speaker 1: just got the shit even more crazy and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But but my whole thing was I had already been
Speaker 1: breaking the law, right so so whatever this charge was
Speaker 1: was nothing.
Speaker 2: I was like, compared to what I was doing. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go to Jeniffer talking kids, my motherfucking ass, let's go,
Speaker 2: you know. And I had money, and I'm like, we'll bail.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it was a petty charge, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, So that that was that. We
Speaker 1: used to run from the police a lot. I remember,
Speaker 1: we had a big ass fight. We had. We had
Speaker 1: lots of fights out there on the road because when
Speaker 1: we would come to towns. They would they want to
Speaker 1: test you. Remember the big nagus of you. Easy come here, Easy,
Speaker 1: like they wanted to see Easy, Like you know, so
Speaker 1: Easy was small, so he wouldn't want to really just
Speaker 1: I'm always like, take me to your leader type nigga.
Speaker 2: I'm six foot tall.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go. We can go a couple up
Speaker 1: in this bitch, let's go. So I never really felt
Speaker 1: I had no problem with street niggas. When I got
Speaker 1: to Detroit, I'm like, take me to your leader. Let
Speaker 1: me see who the toughest nigga is. I'll befriend him,
Speaker 1: and I'm good. I'm not here.
Speaker 2: I'm here to entertain you anyway. I'm not your enemy.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to sell your drugs, to take your block,
Speaker 1: which you need some backsage passes?
Speaker 2: Is he the ball came up? Now we're good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we good, nig You're good. Now I got security.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's how I played it everywhere.
Speaker 3: And it's like quick said, Quick said, everywhere is like calm.
Speaker 1: To remember the joint. Yeah that's what if you're smart,
Speaker 1: if you know, I mean the same thing you do
Speaker 1: in prison.
Speaker 2: Like shit, I was just about to say that's so
Speaker 2: before we get into all that. How did ice t
Speaker 2: wind up in the Army.
Speaker 1: I got in the army because when I was in
Speaker 1: high school, I got my girlfriend pregnant. I was I
Speaker 1: just got out of high school and I graduated early.
Speaker 1: I was an a student. I was on the honor roll,
Speaker 1: all that shit. I graduated twenty we report card. I
Speaker 1: was out. I had all my credits, and I started
Speaker 1: trade technical college. I wanted to do by. I can
Speaker 1: paint cars, I can do all kinds of body and
Speaker 1: fender and all that kind of shit. That was what
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna do it, pick slow riders.
Speaker 1: I was into cars. I always been in the cars.
Speaker 1: And I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really
Speaker 1: know how easy it was to get a girl pregnant.
Speaker 1: You know. I was just like a young dage, was
Speaker 1: not style.
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting that much pussy up to that point,
Speaker 2: you anyway.
Speaker 1: Nah, So I got it pregnant, and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 1: so now I got a baby coming. And I'm a
Speaker 1: small time hustler, you know, doing small bullshit, you know,
Speaker 1: stealing car radios.
Speaker 2: Nothing, drugs hadn't come.
Speaker 1: To nothing that, nothing had come up that was going
Speaker 1: to make me rich. And I was also very athletic.
Speaker 1: I was in gymnastics in high school. I was doing
Speaker 1: you know, parallel bars, crunch your highest crunch. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I was strong. I was very strong. So they had
Speaker 1: an enlisting office on crench Yaw and I just walked
Speaker 1: in there and I was like, you know, I got
Speaker 1: to get out of the game because I got a kid.
Speaker 1: And so I went in there and and I just
Speaker 1: basically was picking uniforms. I was like, well, what's that, nigga,
Speaker 1: that's infantry. You get twenty five hundred dollars bonus. I'm like, word, okay.
Speaker 1: And he said that red beret, that's airborne, you get
Speaker 1: another twenty five hundred.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't come home in no red beret.
Speaker 2: You didn't I couldn't wear no red I was like yo.
Speaker 1: So then I said the next one was the Black Beret,
Speaker 1: which were the Rangers.
Speaker 2: Serious?
Speaker 1: I like that because that was like the Black Panthers, right,
Speaker 1: And then the next one was special Forces the Green Beret.
Speaker 1: But that was fifty two weeks of basic or AI
Speaker 1: T wait sold on.
Speaker 2: You was about to join the army, and they tried
Speaker 2: to offer you red you use none.
Speaker 1: Why when I went in this nigga when they refused
Speaker 1: the army for red, Well, when I went in there,
Speaker 1: I was picking uniforms. I just was like, what am
Speaker 1: I going to look like? And then they was like,
Speaker 1: well this is regular infantry. This this call Mike moves
Speaker 1: on an interview just right here. If you go, you know, airborne,
Speaker 1: you get to wear red beret. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't come home and no red beret. You did
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was like, I can't come to
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. Okay, yeah, so that's what it was. So
Speaker 1: then I had a black beret and a green beret,
Speaker 1: so I picked a black beret. And uh, facically, it's
Speaker 1: just a bunch of training, bunch of athletics ship. If
Speaker 1: as long as you have a good cardio, you could
Speaker 1: do it, you know, but you just got to be disciplined.
Speaker 1: You got to get used to people yelling in your face,
Speaker 1: and kind of home Rangers is kind of tough. H Well,
Speaker 1: you know, if he was an army, you know, it's
Speaker 1: fentimental ship. They're gonna yell at you, they're going to
Speaker 1: try to fuck you up mentally. But then you gotta
Speaker 1: you know you deal.
Speaker 2: You sleep up from neighborhood. So how did you how
Speaker 2: did how did you did you do? Accept the discipline
Speaker 2: you got to you want to have to the hood
Speaker 2: is in the military.
Speaker 1: But you know that, you know, like in that movie
Speaker 1: Officer and a gentleman with the man said why are
Speaker 1: you here? He says, I ain't got nowhere else to go.
Speaker 1: That's the only way you're going to make it through
Speaker 1: that training. You have to believe you have no options.
Speaker 1: You can't. It's not something you just say, I just
Speaker 1: think I want to do. You gotta be like, what
Speaker 1: is my other option? I gotta do this? And so,
Speaker 1: you know, the training was exciting to me, and the
Speaker 1: athletic part was exciting to me. The discipline stuff, I
Speaker 1: realized they was trying to mind fuck me. So I've
Speaker 1: worked against that and I just knocked it out. But
Speaker 1: you know it's just some uh you.
Speaker 2: Feel that any of those skills you learned in the
Speaker 2: military helped you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I started robbing banks, Yeah, when I started yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well when I came home.
Speaker 2: The social waters from out there.
Speaker 1: When from the service, because I went to the Service
Speaker 1: right out of high school.
Speaker 2: Service and country, did you start a robbing country. Well
Speaker 2: it wasn't my country. Sure you live on the podcast
Speaker 2: with Iced Tea. It's capon y'all.
Speaker 1: What's up baby?
Speaker 2: What's up? Component I asked about you? Yeah, I told him. Hey, hey, listen, hey, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: How long you're gonna be around? I'm gonna be here.
Speaker 2: This conversation might go all night. No, no, but they
Speaker 2: going in. We're just getting the halfway. We're at the
Speaker 2: halfway pointer. Baby. You know what I'm saying. Well, where
Speaker 2: you at?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, I'm close. I'm not fun. I'm not fun.
Speaker 9: I come to.
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Speaker 2: I hear Ali were going for this this interview iseed team.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hit you back you after you at the
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Speaker 1: The That's funny when niggas be on the talking on
Speaker 1: the phone, you got that and they be wiz kids out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they talk that ship way better
Speaker 1: than you when I went.
Speaker 2: You hear what I said.
Speaker 1: When niggas be on the phone and may be wizz
Speaker 1: kids out, I say, the fans talk that ship wave,
Speaker 1: they break that ship down. He said, it's better talk
Speaker 1: regular if you're not doing that much because the fast
Speaker 1: book whatever. Oh my god, oh my god, hold up,
Speaker 1: that was the that was the straight fucking just well,
Speaker 1: that is not good.
Speaker 2: M I didn't I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought you helped me out my friend for no easing.
Speaker 1: So what we were talking about, sorry, talking about robbing
Speaker 1: ship the bank robbers.
Speaker 3: He got out.
Speaker 2: My bank robbery.
Speaker 1: There's two ways to the bank, come after, all right,
Speaker 1: just trying to do the right comes. So you know,
Speaker 1: Ice team, we praised foul niggas and all right in
Speaker 1: the way you described yourself.
Speaker 2: You're trying to do.
Speaker 10: You're like, you're like the foul nigga president. You got
Speaker 10: out the harmony and rob the banks. I'm trying to
Speaker 10: do the right thing.
Speaker 1: But when I got home, when I when I left,
Speaker 1: my niggas was small time criminals. When I came home,
Speaker 1: they had elevated their game. So I'm like, so what
Speaker 1: are y'all doing? They say, we robbing jewelry stores. We
Speaker 1: get in check cash and boots, were getting credit unions,
Speaker 1: you know, occasional banks.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that's like that a bank.
Speaker 2: So I was like, so, what's to get down now?
Speaker 1: Due to the fact I had all that military training,
Speaker 1: I was able to up the game up and I
Speaker 1: told them, you know, basically, any operation deals with intelligence.
Speaker 2: The more you know about the mark, the better.
Speaker 1: So I added that to the game, like lots of
Speaker 1: heavy duty case and lots of understanding what the alarms
Speaker 1: and the response times was and stuff. So you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of ways to doing it. There's
Speaker 1: what's caught. Like with jewelry, there's this basic snatch and
Speaker 1: grab where you just walk in and get a watch
Speaker 1: and run. There's basically the bash where you knock out
Speaker 1: the glass and stuff. Then you've got the burglary, which
Speaker 1: is a four or five nine. But if you're going
Speaker 1: for the safe, now see I could give up some
Speaker 1: game ship. Well, if you want to hit it, it's
Speaker 1: all right, fuck it it burglary. If you're going to
Speaker 1: rob a jewelry store, rob it at the time it
Speaker 1: opens or the time it closes.
Speaker 2: Why why because it's safe soap right in the morning.
Speaker 1: So what you want to do is you want to
Speaker 1: get there right when they let pulling the ship out
Speaker 1: of the safe, right when they're pulling those flags out.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't jewel That was when So once when
Speaker 1: you see a jury story at night, when they close
Speaker 1: that door at the last minute and they start to
Speaker 1: and if you really want to time it, let them
Speaker 1: lay the plaques up, let them get.
Speaker 2: Everything out and up out of the window. Let them
Speaker 2: do it for you so that everything is stacked.
Speaker 1: But right before it's getting ready to go in the safe,
Speaker 1: that's when you want to hit them. And then you
Speaker 1: know we're not going to give you the step by
Speaker 1: step details. And also bottom line is anything you do,
Speaker 1: you got to do it backwards, so it's not as
Speaker 1: it's not as important. Where the lick is is where
Speaker 1: you're gonna escape to, and that has to be like
Speaker 1: a maze of how you're gonna get away. A lot
Speaker 1: of you don't just do it and then say, now
Speaker 1: where do we run this? All that is all thought
Speaker 1: out one way where you know we use motorcycles on
Speaker 1: one way streets. I could I could take a motorcycle.
Speaker 1: I could hit the jewelry district over here and put
Speaker 1: a bike in. All I'm gonna do is hit one
Speaker 1: way streets backwards, right, So they can't get but then
Speaker 1: do they got helicopters under the ground, Like if you know,
Speaker 1: the best way to get away from a high speed
Speaker 1: chase is take them into a parking structure, not out
Speaker 1: on the street, a parking structure where now the cops
Speaker 1: got to stay outside, they can only come in one.
Speaker 1: Then you can ditch the car and you can go
Speaker 1: through the steps. And yeah, so all this stuff, it's
Speaker 1: shit I did for years anyway, and and you're gonna
Speaker 1: end up getting killed or murdered at some point because
Speaker 1: but yeah, I done it, and uh whatever, bank bank.
Speaker 1: But the thing of it is, most of the times,
Speaker 1: the two ways you rob a bank, you play a note,
Speaker 1: you play a teller. You go for the vault. What
Speaker 1: you saw on the heat is a takeover robbery where
Speaker 1: they would take the whole vault. That that's a lot
Speaker 1: of exposure.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was around cast and winning the vault and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But you gotta you're gonna be in there
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Most times people just walk up and play the note
Speaker 1: and just get the one teller or you.
Speaker 2: Said a note, how did you the note?
Speaker 1: You just walk up and you just say I got
Speaker 1: a gun. Give me the money, and that is hand
Speaker 1: you the month fuck of money. That's called playing a note.
Speaker 1: That's an easy that's the easiest way robbed bank. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The thing well, that's that's that's those are impacts.
Speaker 1: They still got them. Yeah then yeah, but you know what,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I feel very uncomfortable
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: This stuff, you know, comfortable, right.
Speaker 1: The thing of it is is I want And also
Speaker 1: also like a lot of my friends are still incarcerated,
Speaker 1: so you know, from they in there saying they didn't
Speaker 1: do it, yeah, I am saying we did it.
Speaker 2: You know that's not good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know it was it was a
Speaker 1: time and you know, uh, when I got that chance
Speaker 1: to rap, I jumped in and I didn't you know,
Speaker 1: because I knew my days was numbered in low digits.
Speaker 1: I knew that that wasn't gonna last. When you're hustling
Speaker 1: like that, you make a lot of money, then you
Speaker 1: spend it. You make a lot of money, then you
Speaker 1: spend it. You're up and down. Those are licks, you know,
Speaker 1: and you make it and you spend it. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, I don't I didn't see a long
Speaker 1: life like that. So when the rapping came along, I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, you know I could do this. And
Speaker 1: then I tried to rap like New York and the
Speaker 1: niggas was like, rap about what we do. And then
Speaker 1: we invent what we call the crime rhyme rhyme based
Speaker 1: around that, and I got archives and archives of that ship.
Speaker 1: So I started making stories in the stories, like I
Speaker 1: call it faction, so it's its factual occurrence is put
Speaker 1: into a fictional scenario. So things I'm saying, did that happen?
Speaker 1: Did that really that happened? They couldn't not combine them.
Speaker 1: So the story sounds really real because the ship really happened,
Speaker 1: but just not in that particular order.
Speaker 2: Now, does that make any sense correctly?
Speaker 3: He briefly mentioned, I think it's we need to talk
Speaker 3: about a little bit more rhyme syndicate, which might be
Speaker 3: one of the first cruise of hip hop maybe BDP
Speaker 3: and rhyme syndicates around the same era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who who are the members of rhyme syndecks rhyme?
Speaker 2: So nevertheless, House of Pain, you know Pain ever left?
Speaker 1: Yes, what happened was, you know, when I was trying
Speaker 1: to when I decided I wanted to rap. I had
Speaker 1: to kind of like leave my crime friends alone and
Speaker 1: get with these rap niggas. Right, So I'm with all
Speaker 1: these different rap people, and I would seem like I
Speaker 1: was gonna make it first. So I said to homies,
Speaker 1: I said, if I make it, I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: help y'all.
Speaker 2: So I was reading up. I'm an avid reader, so
Speaker 2: I was reading that.
Speaker 1: You know, Lucky Luciano had started this thing called the Commission,
Speaker 1: where it was a group of groups with one common goal.
Speaker 1: A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups
Speaker 1: of one common goal. So basically, we're not I'm not
Speaker 1: the boss, You're the boss. You're the boss. You're the
Speaker 1: boss of your own organization a network. But we agreed
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk before we fight, right, So
Speaker 1: that's what a syndicate is. So I wasn't I just
Speaker 1: brought groups in. It's kind of like the West Coast
Speaker 1: Zulu Nation, really kind of like, but I knew LA
Speaker 1: wasn't really gonna ride with the Afro centric shit. There
Speaker 1: was two gangsters. So I created a term called the syndicate,
Speaker 1: and we had low Profile was in it, which was
Speaker 1: dub c. Of course, when we had When we had Mugs,
Speaker 1: Mugs was in a group called seven eighty three. At
Speaker 1: the time, he was a DJ and course Everlast Divine styler,
Speaker 1: Donald d Uh from the Bronx, where was ever lessons
Speaker 1: from where Everless from l A.
Speaker 2: He was like from the valley and he had the
Speaker 2: hair at the time. Remember when he came.
Speaker 1: He was brought to me by a guy named Bala
Speaker 1: Dasher and ever Last first sounding like rock Kim when
Speaker 1: I heard him.
Speaker 2: He was rapping.
Speaker 1: Now new rappers were rapping someone else's voice, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: right right, you know, and I'm like, you sound dope,
Speaker 1: but you got to use your own voice, you know.
Speaker 1: And so once he found his own voice, he started
Speaker 1: to rap and stuff. But it was just my way
Speaker 1: of I got Everlast a record deal, I got Divine
Speaker 1: Style of a record deal, I did a compilation album.
Speaker 1: It was just a way of me trying to help
Speaker 1: West Coast niggas, you know, and and try to create
Speaker 1: peace versus more which is not profitable educational.
Speaker 6: So now.
Speaker 4: New Jack City, which is New York City classic, but
Speaker 4: that is so.
Speaker 1: Disrespectful hip hop classic, man, I love those in my
Speaker 1: eye relaxed because that's how.
Speaker 2: That's how much to me?
Speaker 4: New Jack City is not only a New York class, right,
Speaker 4: it's not only a hip hop class.
Speaker 2: It's not only it's a worldwide class cinematic.
Speaker 4: But I need to know you as being the most
Speaker 4: gangster risk gangster you you you had the sixties on
Speaker 4: your back when it wasn't cool to say the sixties.
Speaker 4: You had the crypt ship on your back when it
Speaker 4: wasn't cool to say the cript ship. You had to
Speaker 4: gang ship on your back when it wasn't cool to
Speaker 4: say the ship. And now you get presented with this
Speaker 4: raw as a co Yeah, at that time it would
Speaker 4: have been controversy.
Speaker 2: But it's a joint called New Jack City, and they're
Speaker 2: saying that it's based on this guy was just not
Speaker 2: Nino Brown, because Nino Brown is a fatition.
Speaker 1: Based on some cats from from from New York City
Speaker 1: and also somebody from the Bay from Frisco Brothers or
Speaker 1: something like that thought catch Money Brothers from New York.
Speaker 1: I met the actual guy that said he was.
Speaker 2: They feel it. Just told me wait wait wait, okay,
Speaker 2: cast Money Brothers. Yeah, I got that, you're.
Speaker 1: Right, but.
Speaker 2: How does they even approach you?
Speaker 1: Okay, so what happened with New jack City was they
Speaker 1: wanted to make this movie and they had they had
Speaker 1: written the movie, and they didn't know who they were
Speaker 1: going to get. And at the time, there was just
Speaker 1: not there just wasn't a lot of black actors. Now
Speaker 1: there's hundreds of black hackers. But at the time, Wesley
Speaker 1: Snipes had only done Major League. He was, you know,
Speaker 1: he loved Major right, but that was he wasn't a
Speaker 1: big known actor. So George Jackson and Dougman Henry, the producers,
Speaker 1: they just had a brainstrom. They said, let's just take
Speaker 1: people from pop culture. Ice is selling millions of records.
Speaker 1: He's a little, you know, kind of little pro protest
Speaker 1: pro that let's get him. Let's get Chris Rock. He's
Speaker 1: the most grimy new So he just took all the
Speaker 1: people that they knew that were hot and different, and
Speaker 1: so let's make a lot of us.
Speaker 2: Never knew who Chris Rock was. Let's let's let's see
Speaker 2: if they can act.
Speaker 1: So I'm in a club and Mario Van Peoples was
Speaker 1: in the club and he says to me, he heard
Speaker 1: me in the roof.
Speaker 2: He said he heard me in a toilet.
Speaker 1: I was talking ship to somebody in the bathroom, in
Speaker 1: the toilet.
Speaker 2: I was in the bathroom, and I was on my ship.
Speaker 2: I was like saying, I say that.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, nigga, if the motherfuckers can get a
Speaker 1: microscope and find one molecule of me that gave a fuck,
Speaker 1: then they can angle me. But they can't angle me
Speaker 1: because it's not a molecule there that gives a fuck.
Speaker 2: So he said, whoever said that's gonna be the star
Speaker 2: of my movie?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: So I was on this on my ice t shit.
Speaker 2: So I'm out there and now now I'm parlay.
Speaker 1: In with three females talking my bullshit, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to sell him a dream. So I'm in the middle
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: And then he walks over says, a Ice, would you.
Speaker 1: Like to be in a movie? Some I'm like, Hollywood bullshit? Right,
Speaker 1: who Mario Mario? I'm like, Hollywood bullshit.
Speaker 2: You just people hit the old Mario Ron people says
Speaker 2: that was the main cop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and his father was in Sweet Sweet Back,
Speaker 1: bad Ass song. He's a gee Melvin Van Peoples. So
Speaker 1: he hits me with this bullshit about being in a movie.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, nigga, youre just trying to talk to
Speaker 1: these girls, like, you know, I introduced him to the females.
Speaker 1: He's like, most serious. Show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We got this.
Speaker 1: So we change numbers and you were already on Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers as a record. Everything around One Brothers at the time.
Speaker 1: So I show up at his thing and I look
Speaker 1: at the script. I'm expecting I'm gonna get four or
Speaker 1: five lines. So I read Scotty's part and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is the whole movie. Son, like really, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not an actor. He said, you can do it like this.
Speaker 2: Nigga got dreads like I gotta. I'm like.
Speaker 1: Like, and they were like, and he's a cop. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. So I got home,
Speaker 1: I start talking to people, you know, I talk to
Speaker 1: my boys. I'm like, Yo, they want me to play
Speaker 1: a police in the movie. Man, what you think we
Speaker 1: could I be in the movie.
Speaker 11: About Yeah.
Speaker 2: Niggas from jail was calling me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, yeah, blah, yeah, yeah, we sent the
Speaker 1: package and all that, but uh, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: know you in the bowels of the Devil. I understand
Speaker 1: the man. They want me to play the police, right now,
Speaker 1: what do you feel about that in the movie.
Speaker 2: Were if I was out, could I be in the movie?
Speaker 2: So no one was saying no.
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, nigga, that's an opportunity positive. And then
Speaker 1: then the girls where I used to get my hair did.
Speaker 1: I used to get my hair done twice a week.
Speaker 1: I had my shit permed up, you know, more wavy
Speaker 1: than the ships in the navy. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to keep sharp and staying nice up in
Speaker 1: this bitch saying I got out match a motherfucking woman
Speaker 1: before I can she can understand what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: was sharp, so I was sharp. And the girls at
Speaker 1: the beauty parlor, they was like nothing from the hood.
Speaker 1: I called the beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon.
Speaker 1: It was like I said, they want me to pill
Speaker 1: the police. They're like, you gotta do it, nigga, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna be one of the real niggas. And when
Speaker 1: you get older, you ain't gonna forget the hood, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell everybody what the fuck's going on, nigga.
Speaker 1: And if you don't do this movie, don't come back
Speaker 1: up in this month fucking right. So the sisters sent
Speaker 1: me out on that mission and I did the movie.
Speaker 1: I was shitting nervous.
Speaker 2: But now did they know this, this this story took
Speaker 2: place in New York.
Speaker 1: Didn't matter. It was just an opportunity, opportunity, you know, Nordy,
Speaker 1: I believe this man. We come from a background with
Speaker 1: no opportunities, and we always are, you know, upset about that.
Speaker 1: When you get an opportunity and you don't take it,
Speaker 1: and you're a real live sucker.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You're a real live sucker
Speaker 2: because you.
Speaker 1: Mention, you mentioned about it, and now you get it
Speaker 1: and you don't take it, and you got to put
Speaker 1: the jets on when you get that opportunity, because they
Speaker 1: don't get them.
Speaker 2: We don't get them.
Speaker 1: So I got that opportunity, so you took it. I
Speaker 1: went and I tried my best to do the movie.
Speaker 1: I was nervous. This is at the same time Original
Speaker 1: Gangster came out. This is my biggest album. I was platinum.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, like I'm like, fuck this all off.
Speaker 4: But then you're not telling me you had a choice
Speaker 4: between going on tour this album and do New Jackson.
Speaker 1: It was no tour at the time, but my album
Speaker 1: was hot. So I at k New Jack City, was
Speaker 1: can I risk this and fu up my record? It's
Speaker 1: my record is hot.
Speaker 4: But but now, when you got the script, did they
Speaker 4: tell you the actors that was attached to it?
Speaker 9: Didn't?
Speaker 2: I didn't care, and I had a record out original
Speaker 2: game that was.
Speaker 1: The and and ruin everything that I got going and
Speaker 1: what my niggas accept me.
Speaker 2: I was worried.
Speaker 1: You know, I've always been more concerned with my friends,
Speaker 1: my close friends, whether they're in prison or home. That's
Speaker 1: been my thermometer on what if I'm doing what's right.
Speaker 1: I got to keep their respect. And my niggas is
Speaker 1: straight niggas, and they love going the word nigga.
Speaker 2: Hey hold, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Telling you to my niggas ain't corny niggas. They told me, Yo,
Speaker 1: a hustle is supposed to get the money by any means,
Speaker 1: by the path of least resistance, and television has a
Speaker 1: lot less resistance than twenty.
Speaker 2: Five a life niggas. So you do the right thing,
Speaker 2: get that paper, I start planning.
Speaker 1: Do your numbers. So so now I'm I'm where was
Speaker 1: I Jackson? Jackson?
Speaker 2: Yeah, New jack City. You were contemplating whether whether to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: I was struggling, but I did the damn movie and
Speaker 1: it was successful, and I is scared. Like they said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put dreads on you because we want people
Speaker 1: not to just see Ice Tea. We want them to
Speaker 1: give them a chance for you to be another character
Speaker 1: that they're so familiar with. How you look it throw
Speaker 1: them off. And I remember I went to the.
Speaker 2: Movies like after three days after it came out.
Speaker 1: I was sitting behind some niggas and I heard them, niggas,
Speaker 1: look at Ice Tea with.
Speaker 2: That motherfucking head on. Nigga, look crazy, motherfucker man in
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 1: You ain't let you want yelling. I'm like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: did it too right. I wanted to get a real
Speaker 1: response in the nigga. About about ten minutes into the movie,
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes I'm chasing Chris Rock, They're like, get it, Scotty.
Speaker 1: They start calling me Scotti the name. I'm like that
Speaker 1: was was like yo, it's piss. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm pulling this ship like they're rolling with me. Did
Speaker 1: the movie was a huge success. No negativity. Hip hop
Speaker 1: embraced me, and everybody know. Nobody even tripped off the
Speaker 1: cop thing. They was like, nigga, you acting, that's a job.
Speaker 1: And I've been rolling like that ever since. You know,
Speaker 1: like acting is act.
Speaker 4: So that was your first movie, world that you fell
Speaker 4: in love with.
Speaker 1: On the first movie, I actually got to speak, you know,
Speaker 1: I was. I was in those other movies breaking back
Speaker 1: in the day. I was a feature rap talking.
Speaker 2: But then you then you get the call about to
Speaker 2: do a movie with Denzel ship.
Speaker 12: We got Elliott Wilson h Ambulance, but you get the
Speaker 12: call that was my next movie, the Denzel movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from Joel Silver, one of the biggest producers in
Speaker 1: the history. He does the Matrix.
Speaker 2: What was the name of this movie? Ricky set with
Speaker 2: Denzel and.
Speaker 4: Because because this is the crazy shit, Denzel is not Denzel,
Speaker 4: He's He's he's dead.
Speaker 2: He ain't got the Zel yet.
Speaker 1: He just yeah, and you do this movie?
Speaker 4: Did you know that this motherfucker is going to be
Speaker 4: the illest actor in the world?
Speaker 2: And did again? When did you didn't know that?
Speaker 1: I knew he was. I mean to me, Denzel, Well
Speaker 1: you heard of Denzel prior to that, but I just
Speaker 1: knew Deenzel Washington was the big was the biggest actor
Speaker 1: I ever worked with.
Speaker 2: You know, I remember I was just working with this
Speaker 2: new people.
Speaker 1: I'm working with Judge Nelson on Denzel Well, I knew
Speaker 1: Genzel Washington was.
Speaker 2: I was because Wesley wasn't really big. When we women
Speaker 2: were loving Denzel that that was his ship.
Speaker 1: He was the pill.
Speaker 2: He's like Billy d Williams. Yeah, he was a nigga.
Speaker 1: So when I met Denzel, he just he he came
Speaker 1: down to my level. He was like, look, man, I've
Speaker 1: been on television. I did this, and I'm just here
Speaker 1: and we just getting ready to go do this. And
Speaker 1: I never forget. I was in the first scene with him,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, these really good actors they'll laugh
Speaker 1: and joke and they go action the bamn, they'll hit
Speaker 1: their cares. Actor. No, that's not method, Okay. Method acting
Speaker 1: is when the dickheads. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was on the set with a method actor and
Speaker 4: I called him his real name, and I'm Joe.
Speaker 1: Like when it's crazy, they won't there that person, they
Speaker 1: won't break, Like if they're playing a drug addict, they
Speaker 1: gonna go out and sleep with real drug acts and
Speaker 1: come to work dirty and all that old buttleh.
Speaker 2: Fuck that acting is lying. Acting is lying.
Speaker 1: Like if I say if I said, the next person
Speaker 1: who comes in the door, make him convince him you're
Speaker 1: my manager. That's acting, right. So they said what do
Speaker 1: you learn how to act? I'm like, stand in front
Speaker 1: of a jug. I mean, Denzel was talking and he
Speaker 1: was joking. Then they said action and then Nigga jumped
Speaker 1: into character on me and I flogged my line and
Speaker 1: Nigga did like this. He was like, come on, nice,
Speaker 1: what's that? And I was like, oh, that's how we're
Speaker 1: getting down. Like he's shown me like, come on, like
Speaker 1: we can we joke, but I'm gonna hit my line.
Speaker 2: So that's when I was like, I want to learn,
Speaker 2: just like that dude on the Ricochet.
Speaker 1: But that's when I'm my first chance learning somebody who
Speaker 1: could you know when actors do that? And that was
Speaker 1: then Zel, it's almost like they going through their legs
Speaker 1: with the ball they playing with you. They're like, I
Speaker 1: already acting Pam and they hit the ship and then
Speaker 1: they'll come out of and start telling other jokes. You're like,
Speaker 1: whoa's some dope ship right here?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I always wanted to learn how to act like him,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know that. But Denzel wasn't like he
Speaker 4: wasn't the oscar Ward winning that that.
Speaker 1: But to a bum nigga like me, he was.
Speaker 2: I was like nobody in the acting world.
Speaker 1: I was a rapper. Like, how the hell am I
Speaker 1: even on screen with Denzel Washington? Really? You know?
Speaker 2: So I'm one of my keys is humility and bought
Speaker 2: to kick y'all out the hold this whole side of
Speaker 2: the section B smoke and ship niggas is hitting wax
Speaker 2: and all. I gotta pay for this.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get any money for that, Like
Speaker 1: New jack City. I gotn't get twenty six thousand dollars
Speaker 1: New Jackson.
Speaker 2: And paid it paid.
Speaker 1: You get Royal t eighty million, eighty million bucks probably
Speaker 1: one hundred million by now, I know, no royalties. I
Speaker 1: got paid scale my first movie. And that's just how
Speaker 1: it goes. That's it.
Speaker 8: Yeahs and and that that's not that's not That's just
Speaker 8: how the game they couldn't used, but it's what it
Speaker 8: took them to the next level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2: How do you negotiate? You have no leverage?
Speaker 3: Who are you?
Speaker 1: They'll get another nigga, They'll get motherfucking a cake. They
Speaker 1: put chuck in a fucking wig. I know even there
Speaker 1: they d in there wrapping. You know, I knew everybody
Speaker 1: knew that replaced you. So so after that, when I
Speaker 1: went to go see Joe Silver, I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. So I walked to there. I'm like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know a last movie, you know made a lot
Speaker 1: of money. You know what I'm saying. I know I'm
Speaker 1: about to get paid. Now, he goes ice Tea, you've
Speaker 1: done one movie, stuck it to me again. So that
Speaker 1: movie I got like forty eight for less work this rick.
Speaker 1: I didn't get any money in movies until I did
Speaker 1: tank Girl, where I played the kangaroo.
Speaker 2: I didn't even hear a tank What is this movie? Movie?
Speaker 1: A movie called tank Girl with Lori Petty and I
Speaker 1: played a I played listen I'm doing. I'm making a
Speaker 1: movie with Keanu Reeves called Johnny Neumonic. I'm in Canada.
Speaker 1: So I get a call from my manager. She said,
Speaker 1: will you play a stripper in Arizona? I said, you
Speaker 1: want to fucking right, I'll play a stripper in Arizona.
Speaker 1: So that night I did like two thousand set ups.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna be right. Yeah, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to get my sex, said going. So the next day
Speaker 1: they send me a picture this kangaroo and it was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I strippers a kangaroo? They
Speaker 1: know you're a ripper.
Speaker 2: Stripper a ripper, A ripper is a mutated person.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's theme of the movie. The movie's Tanker
Speaker 1: and she sounds so generic. I was like, yo, am
Speaker 1: I not with Keanu Reeves? They need it? I mean,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? And they told me
Speaker 1: how much money I was getting. I was like, I've
Speaker 1: learned the bunny hop. No, that was that my first
Speaker 1: I got a nigion dollars and you ain't never seen it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, if you google Tanker right now,
Speaker 1: I look crazy, right Huh. It's like it's like a
Speaker 1: mute because he called a mutated person and they it's
Speaker 1: it's about like some sci fi ship. Yeah, like a
Speaker 1: fight over water and tank girl iced tea. You're gonna
Speaker 1: see a picture of me the game.
Speaker 4: Okay, So while we pulling it up, Yeah, I want
Speaker 4: to respect my brother Charlie, Charlie's brother for twenty.
Speaker 2: Years, and he can. He dove right into it. Look
Speaker 2: at this, Look at his pictures. We're gonna see that's me.
Speaker 2: But you got a million for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty two days, twenty two days in that ship
Speaker 1: that cjer is that No, that's that's Stan Winsy, that's
Speaker 1: Stan Winston. That's five piece applications. That's all same, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Watch you gotta put it on the cameras. Fucked that movie.
Speaker 2: We gotta show it to the cameras. So now, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was tank Girl. So that was you know, and
Speaker 2: and the thing it was.
Speaker 1: And now I'm at this point where I'm just taking
Speaker 1: jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're coming in
Speaker 1: so I'm like, shoot, you know, I'm starting to make
Speaker 1: money now finally.
Speaker 4: So now you consider that, you consider the actor. You're
Speaker 4: killing every role you get. Then cus I comes see
Speaker 4: Law Order.
Speaker 2: The same ship to me, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Can do that, y'all?
Speaker 4: Take a shot.
Speaker 2: Every time we say relaxed, Yeah, if you if you're
Speaker 2: watching it, take a shot. Listen. So Law and Order Doom, doom. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the sounds that they come to you and they say
Speaker 2: what they say. Okay, little pre pre story.
Speaker 1: At my first time working with Dick wolf Food, the
Speaker 1: executive producers that is in New York Undercover. Yeah, make
Speaker 1: I was at I was at my house in l A.
Speaker 2: Hold hold on, hold on, hold on, Benzina, come on,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? What's over? You don't even want
Speaker 2: to ask him for that? Buttery fingers? You have buttery fingers?
Speaker 3: Yo?
Speaker 2: Menzino you live on the podcast?
Speaker 1: Zo up.
Speaker 2: We're here with Ice Team.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Benzino's Ice? What's happening?
Speaker 1: Baby?
Speaker 2: Here with Ice Team?
Speaker 1: What? What's good? Man?
Speaker 2: All that you in New York?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, and this out we have five forty one Lexington.
Speaker 2: I'm the w Hotel. Come through.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool?
Speaker 2: You know my last name? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Don't see how they treat me so so New York
Speaker 2: got the cover.
Speaker 1: I was with Fab five Freddy in my house and
Speaker 1: well you on New York Coach the cover as well.
Speaker 1: I was on three times. I played a guy named
Speaker 1: Danny Yup and Andre Hirel was talking to Fab five Freddie.
Speaker 1: Fab five was like, I'm at ice teas crip, he said,
Speaker 1: put ice tea on the phone. He's like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta come on my show, New York Undercover. Andre was
Speaker 1: part of that. I'm like, I told him, nigga, that's
Speaker 1: a rip off of New Jack City, you know, New
Speaker 1: York Undercover.
Speaker 2: I said, you, what's that? Too young?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's why I'm here to clarify.
Speaker 1: So so anyway, he's like, yeah, well come on the show,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, you know I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: doing movies now, nigga. And then he was like, oh
Speaker 1: a rights, you too big?
Speaker 2: Now you know how they do that?
Speaker 1: Like, I was like, all right, well, give me a
Speaker 1: bad guy role and I'll play it because I've been
Speaker 1: playing poly I said, give me a bad guy role.
Speaker 1: So there was this role called Danny Up.
Speaker 2: I played it.
Speaker 1: I get a call from Dick Walking, we don't want
Speaker 1: to kill you. At the end of the episode, will
Speaker 1: you do more? And I fought with him. We renegotiated
Speaker 1: and got a better room. Move me from a bullshit
Speaker 1: hotel to the four seasons. I did two more episodes.
Speaker 1: I shot, I shot Maligo, Malik Yo was Earl and
Speaker 1: I just wowed out. So after I did that show,
Speaker 1: I did a show for him called Swift Justice. I
Speaker 1: played a bad guy. I did Law and Order. I
Speaker 1: played a pimp. They killed me with a bowl and pin.
Speaker 1: Then I had a show called players on TV. That
Speaker 1: was my own show with costas Man Lauren Frank Hughes. Okay,
Speaker 1: when those shows were over, Dick Wolf, he says, I
Speaker 1: wish I had a stronger vehicle for you, right, meaning
Speaker 1: you got it. But so I'm like cool. So I
Speaker 1: was back in l A doing my business, doing my ship,
Speaker 1: trying to create iTunes. I was trying to create MP
Speaker 1: three bass that we could put rap music on and
Speaker 1: people could get it go straight to MP three.
Speaker 2: Niggas was looking at me like what is MP three?
Speaker 2: Niggas was like that'll never work. Never, never work.
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't getting rid of these CDs. So I'm like, no, Niggas,
Speaker 1: it's a digital f I was like, niggas like this
Speaker 1: before Napster after that. It was during the time Napster
Speaker 1: was doing it. But my thing was, I will take
Speaker 1: your album. I would digitally. I was gonna create iTunes.
Speaker 1: I would take your album. I would put it onto
Speaker 1: a website where we would download it for money. iTunes
Speaker 1: stones where I was.
Speaker 2: I was yeah, and I was gonna and.
Speaker 1: Not only that, I was gonna do it regionally were
Speaker 1: to be a map. What the fun man?
Speaker 2: Hello, let let's look yours up, Let them up, Let
Speaker 2: them up?
Speaker 1: All right? All right?
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, so my thing was it had a regional map,
Speaker 1: so if you could go to like if you were
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, it would have show all the rappers from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: So it would break it down regionally because I knew
Speaker 1: hip hop was regional, so you could do it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that was I was creating when I got the call
Speaker 1: the dude s for you, and uh, I said no, Okay,
Speaker 1: I said no because I had fifteen employees, I had
Speaker 1: a databases, I had servers. I was trying to go
Speaker 1: and then my boy, we had a little problem in
Speaker 1: La where one of my buddies has set me up
Speaker 1: to get robbed. Yeah right, now he's no longer with yeah,
Speaker 1: so so, but basically one of my friends who I
Speaker 1: looked out time to prison. He sent some people up
Speaker 1: to my office and it was a robbery that took place.
Speaker 1: So everybody finally figured it out, and it was a
Speaker 1: little hostile moment. Everybody was worrying about what's going on,
Speaker 1: and then then we figured out who did it, and
Speaker 1: it was tension, you know, tension and shit.
Speaker 2: You know, my daughter was in the room.
Speaker 1: It was. It was an ugly situation.
Speaker 2: It's in my book.
Speaker 1: I wrote it in my book. So when it happened,
Speaker 1: one of my boys from sixties, when they called an emperor,
Speaker 1: he was he with me every day.
Speaker 2: So he was like, said, they offered me to do
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: He said, get out of town, man, get out of town.
Speaker 1: You know, fuck it, it's four shows. It's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna rob. You is some money here, like you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, we weren't making no money yet in
Speaker 1: the business yet. And he's like, I got this, So
Speaker 1: I came out here to do four episodes for SVU
Speaker 1: and it's been eighteen years. But then also the negative
Speaker 1: negativity is also one of the reasons he say, gonna
Speaker 1: shake to New York because of all this dramas going.
Speaker 4: On, because you know, how hard was it to adapt
Speaker 4: to New York because right now you like just as
Speaker 4: much as a New York Nigger than me.
Speaker 1: Well, I always loved New York. I always loved New
Speaker 1: y I was actually born in Newark, New Jersey. My
Speaker 1: mother passed when I was in the third grade. My
Speaker 1: father when I was in the seventh. I lived in Summit,
Speaker 1: New Jersey over there with my father, and then I
Speaker 1: left to go to La when my father died, and
Speaker 1: I was in La ever since my aunt his sister,
Speaker 1: so I lived out there with them and stuff.
Speaker 2: So this brought me back. Music brought me back.
Speaker 1: I was coming out here to get because because to
Speaker 1: me being a rapper, I had to get the coast
Speaker 1: sign of New York. You can't be a rapper and
Speaker 1: not have New York's coast sign.
Speaker 2: As far as I was concerned, already, happy birth I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get up. Let's say happy birthday. You got a
Speaker 2: good pony on.
Speaker 1: Right now to.
Speaker 2: Havy birthday, my brother you were doing. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: a whole.
Speaker 3: Hands what.
Speaker 2: Brother love? We like half through my life story here
Speaker 2: these guys, and that's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: I mean it's better for it to come from my
Speaker 1: mouth to somebody continue please that bullshit. So when you
Speaker 1: moved to l A, Yeah, yeah, so that that was.
Speaker 1: That was when I moved to Cali with my aunt,
Speaker 1: and you moved directly to where you lived in Cali. Well, no,
Speaker 1: or no, I was living when I moved out there.
Speaker 1: I was living in an area called View Park, which
Speaker 1: is above Crenshaw and Vernon. It's like a nice area.
Speaker 1: It's up in the hills, and I used to I
Speaker 1: got bused to a white junior high school called like
Speaker 1: you kind of situation. He was in Palms Junior High School.
Speaker 1: Crenshaw High School was right down the streets. So when
Speaker 1: I got to high school, I said, I ain't catching
Speaker 1: the bus. And that's when I walked into the Shaw
Speaker 1: and uh, that's what I say, an original gangster. How
Speaker 1: I was introduced to the gangs. And I did a
Speaker 1: song because that's how I'm living. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I was born in New Jersey. I said it before,
Speaker 1: but against nobody heard me. My mother died young, no
Speaker 1: sisters or brothers. I was the only son when I
Speaker 1: I was young. My pops died too. What's a nigga
Speaker 1: supposed to do? They sent me out west to live
Speaker 1: with my aunt. I guess they thought that was the best.
Speaker 1: But there was no love there and grown with no moms,
Speaker 1: I guess I was prepared to live in a vacuum.
Speaker 1: The bedroom, the kitchen, in the hall, the bathroom. I
Speaker 1: didn't leave home much. I didn't like LA. I didn't
Speaker 1: have no friends to trust. I got bussed to a
Speaker 1: school blacks and whites. I guess the shit was cool,
Speaker 1: but by high school I changed. I didn't want to bust,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to play the game. I walked the
Speaker 1: crunchy'll high. Shit was fly. I hooked up with a
Speaker 1: new crew, some niggas that knew act like they knew
Speaker 1: what the fuck to do. Now you may call it
Speaker 1: a gang, but we called it a set, and it
Speaker 1: was our own thing. The whole school was down, and
Speaker 1: one way or another, everybody fucked around, whether hardcore or not.
Speaker 1: You wore the right color, yeass got shot.
Speaker 2: Ran.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's how I ended up out there. So anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ended up on SVU eighteen years and uh bless her.
Speaker 1: It was a very you know, the negative situation. Along
Speaker 1: with my buddies insight.
Speaker 2: It's just what do you think about Dave Chappelle when
Speaker 2: he made the skin about that.
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's a genius. It's it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: find somebody as funny. It's Dave Chappelle. Like every once
Speaker 1: in a while a comic genius comes out, like I
Speaker 1: lived through Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy, but Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: just hits comedy from some other angle that niggas ain't agree,
Speaker 1: ain't it's just abnormal. Like, you know, I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of everybody, you know, I was just you know, I
Speaker 1: love everybody. I was asked with Kevin Hart the other day.
Speaker 4: But Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, if you don't bring your
Speaker 4: your monkey ass on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Mark's cool man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin's a businesspell Evin, Chris Rock, all them.
Speaker 2: But Dave bro Dave's comedy is is different. See Dave's natural.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's something different though, and he and he, I mean,
Speaker 1: we did the player haters ball. He doesn't give a
Speaker 1: fuck who writes that ship? But nasty, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl.
Speaker 2: Who writes ship? Like? What was the event you? Actually?
Speaker 2: I spent at an event in Miami. I think it
Speaker 2: was the player Was it the player's ball in Miami
Speaker 2: at Luke's Club?
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a player's ball. Probably.
Speaker 3: I was DJing I have a picture and you're like
Speaker 3: right next to me and told me you want you
Speaker 3: wanted to rhyme and you're like play shook Ones part two?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, rhymed in that spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the one spending. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: I have a picture.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what's.
Speaker 2: I don't have it all a real picture.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think me and Coco were in there that night,
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is where I was gonna go.
Speaker 4: Before we go there, I'm I probably think You're probably
Speaker 4: the first rap album I might have ever jerked off.
Speaker 2: It was the cover the same time.
Speaker 1: That that was Power, Well you know what it was.
Speaker 1: It was it was just like nobody was doing it.
Speaker 1: Nobody was connecting sex, you know, the guns and all that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is part of it.
Speaker 2: Luke did it, but he didn't do it like he
Speaker 2: didn't gain somewhere he did.
Speaker 7: We did it and that was artistic actually the way
Speaker 7: you did when we did yeah the front of the Back, Well.
Speaker 1: That was the second album I did it on. Ryan
Speaker 1: Tay's darling was in the car with us, like in
Speaker 1: a in a bathing suit and me and Evil were
Speaker 1: in a Porsche and we had a palm tree and
Speaker 1: we were trying Glenn Friedman shot that and we were
Speaker 1: trying to say this is Cali. We wanted that to
Speaker 1: say California. When the time I did the Power album cover.
Speaker 1: I was dealing with power, like the three the three
Speaker 1: levels of power. One sex, that's the biggest power, right,
Speaker 1: so you see her. The next power is weapons, sex,
Speaker 1: money and guns, so you see the weapons. And then
Speaker 1: the next power is deception. And when you turn it
Speaker 1: over you see me and evil was strapped. So I
Speaker 1: feel deception is the ultimate power because you never know
Speaker 1: who's giving it to you.
Speaker 2: You know, you, I think you fired me, but really
Speaker 2: he called the shot. He walked away.
Speaker 1: So people that work in that realm of deception and
Speaker 1: and and that's a that's the awesome business. You don't
Speaker 1: know where the shot comes from. And that's the scarier power,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I was dealing with on
Speaker 1: the album. Because of course Darlene looked incredible at the time.
Speaker 1: The niggas you're saying, Darlene, but we don't know that.
Speaker 2: Darlene was was my that's my son's mother.
Speaker 1: And I've never been married before, but that was my
Speaker 1: son's mother at the time, and you know, me and
Speaker 1: her still got a good relationship, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but your son, yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know, at the time, I was I was
Speaker 1: in a world where I thought I thought you had
Speaker 1: to be real. Thought you couldn't lie. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know you could wear other people's jewelry. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you could say. I didn't know you could have a
Speaker 1: girl on the album covered it wasn't your gun. I
Speaker 1: didn't notice everything.
Speaker 7: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know I had to shoot in my own house.
Speaker 1: I had to. I didn't know that that. Oh that's
Speaker 1: what I say. The Gats in my promo shot props.
Speaker 1: You know, so I I didn't think that was okay,
Speaker 1: and you know I was. I ran my career, but
Speaker 1: I ran my career based on those principles. If you know,
Speaker 1: I said I don't when I said I don't wrap
Speaker 1: about Gats, Iron got hose.
Speaker 2: Iron caught.
Speaker 1: You know, guns, I ain't shot. The game to me
Speaker 1: is too fucking deep. If I did, honestly believe, I
Speaker 1: die in my sleep. If I don't have it, I'm
Speaker 1: a rap about not having it right now, you know,
Speaker 1: until I get it.
Speaker 2: But this was duck down.
Speaker 3: We will.
Speaker 1: Shorty. Yeah, that's my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me just tell you somebodic tea.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, me and Compone we
Speaker 2: met in jail. We never ever ever.
Speaker 4: In jail, said we're gonna come home and rap right,
Speaker 4: me and this foul nigga, And I'm a foul nigga
Speaker 4: to him. It's my brother though, my brother.
Speaker 2: But we came home.
Speaker 4: We was in jail, in jail saying we're gonna flip
Speaker 4: some cocaine. Absolutely, I came home and Capone was rapping,
Speaker 4: and it was just like I was like what And
Speaker 4: I was rapping too in jail. But we ain't never
Speaker 4: really share raps. So we had this whole altitude we
Speaker 4: had embarked on. But and this is the reason why
Speaker 4: I named it Gainst the Rap or reality Rap. If
Speaker 4: it wasn't for you, they probably wouldn't be us. And
Speaker 4: that's real ship because when I look at the history
Speaker 4: and sometimes I could google something, I hate googling because
Speaker 4: I like to remember from what and the first original
Speaker 4: person that ever spit reality rap, Gainst the Rap, whatever
Speaker 4: it is is you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and we all owe you, not just we
Speaker 2: didn't know how to be fake, either of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the thing.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: We didn't know that. That's okay.
Speaker 13: We didn't know you could do a photo shoot and
Speaker 13: have a fake gun. You did a photo shoot for
Speaker 13: the vibe. You had a real gun and it went
Speaker 13: on and it went and it went off.
Speaker 2: But I don't understand it at all, this one.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how people can get on Instagram and
Speaker 1: all that in line and talk about ship but then
Speaker 1: all the friends see it and they know it's not real,
Speaker 1: but their friends let them do it, so their friends
Speaker 1: fake too.
Speaker 2: They're going along with this. They checked by the lights.
Speaker 2: If the lights there are, that's the reality. But you
Speaker 2: gotta have balls to do that.
Speaker 1: Actually me to put a picture up of me saying
Speaker 1: this is my house and the niggas know that.
Speaker 2: What kind of person is that? You got Instagram police?
Speaker 2: That's catching motherfuckers too.
Speaker 3: Boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking.
Speaker 1: About your friend that I'm talking about your friends. Like
Speaker 1: I was held accountable for every lyric, every lihime like Ice,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, Ice, nigga, yo, what you know?
Speaker 1: I had to make sure I stayed within the lines
Speaker 1: because my niggas would have laughed me out of town
Speaker 1: maybe like come on, Ice, you know, And my homie said, Ice,
Speaker 1: you don't never have to lie because you live such
Speaker 1: an incredible life.
Speaker 2: You don't have to it, just within it.
Speaker 1: If you don't you know, people ain't gonna believe most
Speaker 1: of the stories I tell.
Speaker 2: I need a nigga right here. This the code SIGNE
Speaker 2: half the ship.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 2: So people, but I don't get it now. I just
Speaker 2: look at people when.
Speaker 4: I would like to ask you hip hop now, what
Speaker 4: is your what is what is ice feelings on hip hop?
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's held to the same same
Speaker 1: rules or same standards.
Speaker 2: When I got in hip hop isn't held to the
Speaker 2: same standards as it is when you saw.
Speaker 1: Nothing but but but but. I think when I got
Speaker 1: into Wrap, I understood. You know, people that brought me
Speaker 1: in mail and everybody cheese to me, they said hip
Speaker 1: hop requires skill. That's what I did in the Art
Speaker 1: of Wrap, my movie. I said, it requires skill. You
Speaker 1: have to be have skill to be a breaker, a
Speaker 1: skill to be a rapper, skill to be a DJ.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Once you lower the bar to where there's no skill,
Speaker 2: it's no longer an art form.
Speaker 1: It's all yeah. So I came in when niggas would
Speaker 1: call you whack and you had to take it like
Speaker 1: you act, or you had to get better. You try
Speaker 1: to get better. It's now to me, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like dance music. It's kind of like disco. It's just
Speaker 1: beats and the productions, some of the some of the productions.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: I can go into a club. I can go into
Speaker 1: a club and listen to trap beats all night long
Speaker 1: and I'm rocking. I mean, that's the sonic, the sound,
Speaker 1: the production and everything, but the lyrical context.
Speaker 2: Everybody starts just calling me Jack Juller, you live on
Speaker 2: the podcast with Iced Tea and John.
Speaker 1: Make get out of here. You know what up?
Speaker 2: Iced team?
Speaker 1: What up? Jack? I'm a fan man.
Speaker 2: I was with Jack and the Bronx. You know where
Speaker 2: you at? Hey, Ali, Ali, Ali know the address? Come through? Hey,
Speaker 2: we got to come up with the right all right,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, I break some and vodka.
Speaker 1: Goddamn it. I make niggas turn off their phones when
Speaker 1: they in my house.
Speaker 2: No, you know what, you know what, let me tell
Speaker 2: you some ice. They don't accumulate more. I haven't said
Speaker 2: this the whole interview. And one thing, one thing, one
Speaker 2: thing that I have to say to you is ice.
Speaker 4: Although I give the same love that you give to
Speaker 4: me to younger artists, but you not have ever been
Speaker 4: obligated to give me any love that you always gave me.
Speaker 2: Because I'm a fan. But it's real though I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Let me let me keep let me.
Speaker 4: Keep bigging you, let me keep bigging you up, because
Speaker 4: Ice you always had our back from the beginning, like
Speaker 4: you're one of them guys. Listen, you one of them
Speaker 4: guys that I know. I call and I know you're
Speaker 4: gonna respond. I know you're going to be and you
Speaker 4: know I always haven't been able to to do what
Speaker 4: I gotta do. But when I've been at the lowest,
Speaker 4: the medium, the highest always.
Speaker 2: Been in my corner. Because real niggas ain't one to
Speaker 2: show up at the party.
Speaker 1: Niggas.
Speaker 2: Real niggas meet you in the parking lot in the
Speaker 2: rain with the pistol. Thank you. I want to thank you.
Speaker 2: We'll go to my soldier boy.
Speaker 4: Hold on, but before before I get to the soldier boy,
Speaker 4: because I want to know who you.
Speaker 1: Got in the fight.
Speaker 4: But before that clown asked niggas, before that, I would like, well,
Speaker 4: you didn't let me finish.
Speaker 1: Okay, you didn't let me finish. I was I was,
Speaker 1: I was saying the music now sonically is incredible, but
Speaker 1: it's I just feel its lack of the lyrical content
Speaker 1: that I think that they're wrapping. They're rapping fast and
Speaker 1: wrapping stuff. But I'm not taking nothing from it. I'm
Speaker 1: not now. I listen to Jay Cole the other day,
Speaker 1: he got his record, and that's the only thing. I
Speaker 1: just think that, although you're a star now and you're rapping,
Speaker 1: take a minute and make a record and try to
Speaker 1: move somebody, like, try to change somebody's life with it.
Speaker 2: I understand it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you got the baddest bitches, You got
Speaker 1: the money you hire all the time. I got that,
Speaker 1: But what else is there? Anything else is now some people,
Speaker 1: there is nothing else. It's just getting money. And I
Speaker 1: grew up with cats like that. It's just getting money.
Speaker 1: But some people got it in them to try to
Speaker 1: help and move And if that's any you do it.
Speaker 2: But you change my life. Ice, You changed my life.
Speaker 4: One day somebody asked you and said, well, Ice, when
Speaker 4: you're dropping something, and you said, I don't want to
Speaker 4: drop something because everybody's dropping mixtapes for free.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spit my game for free. And
Speaker 2: that ship totally fuck.
Speaker 4: I was like, he said, if you notice, it's only
Speaker 4: East Coast niggas that do the mixtape game for free.
Speaker 2: West Coast mixtapes. They drop mixtapes, they sell these nips.
Speaker 2: We killed of people will.
Speaker 4: Sit back and say the downfall, the downfall of New
Speaker 4: York was, whatever, the downfall of New York was.
Speaker 2: We downgraded the old it self so many people.
Speaker 1: And I said that one day and nobody paid attention.
Speaker 1: But there was a website called Daft Pith okay right,
Speaker 1: we put out a thing called the Anti Mixtape. They
Speaker 1: were dropping twenty free mixtapes a day on that website.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was like, yo, this is so diluted.
Speaker 2: Now there's no value. Your down labels are suing them
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: But still it's like yo, man, I mean like, if
Speaker 1: this is your business, then you gotta hold and you
Speaker 1: gotta take its content.
Speaker 2: You can't just give it away.
Speaker 1: I never threw out a free mixtape since it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing, especially somebody like you's
Speaker 1: already known. I mean, if you knew, you might have
Speaker 1: to mixtape, but I don't, don't. And then how did
Speaker 1: the producers get paid when you're giving away.
Speaker 14: Nobody, you just you just do yourself in the same
Speaker 14: person that didn't put half the work you put in
Speaker 14: the game.
Speaker 1: You put yourself on the same level as them when
Speaker 1: you have a mixtape.
Speaker 4: But that's why you gotta have producers that's lawyer like
Speaker 4: Hazardous Sounds, s b k H, Scram Jones, Incredible Cuts, you.
Speaker 2: Know, people like that because because I'm not getting no
Speaker 2: money or for this, it doesn't work either. So you
Speaker 2: got to have people that's willing to take that risk
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 6: But mind you this components. When you said that ice,
Speaker 6: it changed my mind.
Speaker 2: On your house from queens Bridge. You stop that queens man.
Speaker 2: Why does your vapor smell like room boys smells good?
Speaker 2: It was like old Spanish pussy. I'm just keeping it real.
Speaker 2: It's just like some noise some old man. But you
Speaker 2: know is crazy your please? You can text me the
Speaker 2: picture when you rock it. Please? What is it that's that's.
Speaker 1: Giving away.
Speaker 2: The shirt? Our interview with you is so perfect.
Speaker 4: Giving way just say to you right now, your I
Speaker 4: I just can't thank you enough because I know you
Speaker 4: humble and you and and.
Speaker 1: The is going on.
Speaker 2: You guys, hey, but what but keep going, man going.
Speaker 4: You saw him, and I just want to thank you
Speaker 4: because you know why, and I know you don't give
Speaker 4: a fuck. I know you're a real nigga, but you
Speaker 4: know what I feel is real nigga should be saluted nowadays.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, fake niggas had their time.
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why me and my partner right
Speaker 4: here starting this podcast.
Speaker 2: But you can feel it is we want to.
Speaker 4: If you notice, we've never interviewed not one new guy,
Speaker 4: and if you interviewed the new guy, he came with
Speaker 4: an old And you know what, only this is the
Speaker 4: only generation in the world that when you become old,
Speaker 4: they kick you out with the first roll that you
Speaker 4: can still do it jazz, you can still do it,
Speaker 4: shouts up my main game.
Speaker 2: You could be sixty seven.
Speaker 1: Pop stars get more love for longer, and hip hop
Speaker 1: is the only things.
Speaker 2: So you know what for me and my partners, that's
Speaker 2: why I got a rock album now.
Speaker 4: But listen, but you ain't got to have a ten
Speaker 4: million You just sticking with hip hop and you know
Speaker 4: you album just.
Speaker 2: As well. Sometimes you gotta snuff, you know, but this
Speaker 2: birthday you can't get mad. This is what drink champs
Speaker 2: Is drink chants.
Speaker 4: We want to salute our legends because there's no other
Speaker 4: platform to salute our legends. Like right now, if you
Speaker 4: say I'm going to do the hottest podcast quote unquote.
Speaker 2: They want to They want to get jay Z, they
Speaker 2: want to get Nas, they want to.
Speaker 4: Get Drake, they want to get all these people. That's
Speaker 4: not what we started out to do. We wanted to
Speaker 4: support our legends. You know, meet me myself, like the Raptors.
Speaker 1: I liked.
Speaker 2: One of the prerequences was what I like to hang out?
Speaker 1: Would you know? I wanted to roll with rock Cam.
Speaker 1: I wanted to hang with Big Daddy came. I want
Speaker 1: to hang around Compona no yea ray Kwan and want to.
Speaker 2: Hang with Easy. Give us an easy East story that
Speaker 2: I'm told.
Speaker 1: Nah, that's easy easy, well, easy game was. He always
Speaker 1: tried to tell people he was fifteen, shut up.
Speaker 2: Fifty five, come out. I know you don't come out.
Speaker 1: She's just wild out in the hotel room. Some stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen Easy. You know the ladies that
Speaker 1: be cleaning the thing. It's like tackle a chick like.
Speaker 5: Like this.
Speaker 2: Before niggas was getting charges and stuff, niggas just wilding
Speaker 2: out but not you know, Easy was a good dude.
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was the street member of
Speaker 1: the group. He funded that group right after.
Speaker 2: He said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you other people names and I
Speaker 4: just want to see you wanted to continue.
Speaker 1: To Easy with I know Easy. I mean, there's not
Speaker 1: think of it as Easy. He has passed away, so
Speaker 1: it's kind of odd to talk about him. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say no Wild.
Speaker 2: I'm actually a couple of people who have pastor. But
Speaker 2: I got wild story because you got you got, you
Speaker 2: got story. Arrested Jams, j Well Jam talking about Jam Messenger.
Speaker 1: Jay was Jay was another person who was like the
Speaker 1: most authentic like part of Run DMC, Like he was
Speaker 1: a street cat. So I would always actually like somehow
Speaker 1: they would gravitate to me and we would end up
Speaker 1: talking and stuff like that. But Jay was a solid dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing that no one called who killed him.
Speaker 1: That's just amazing that somebody of that caliber, that's like
Speaker 1: somebody from like the one the Super Bowl, like Tom
Speaker 1: Brady get killed, nobody knows about it.
Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy.
Speaker 14: And the thing, you know what's crazy they talk about
Speaker 14: not solving big all on one second, they talk about
Speaker 14: not solving big murder, not SolV a park park murder,
Speaker 14: but they never talk about not solving Jamster Jay and
Speaker 14: he was just as.
Speaker 2: Pen and jay Z.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, jay Z, I mean jam message
Speaker 1: Jay and run DMZ. Remember you're talking about the moment
Speaker 1: with you. That was the moment that made me really wrap.
Speaker 1: Like I went to a concert they had and they
Speaker 1: had everybody put their deeds and jam J was on
Speaker 1: a riser and they had lasers and ship and I
Speaker 1: was just trying to rap and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this ship is rocking.
Speaker 2: Run yo.
Speaker 1: I like to know that because we had always been
Speaker 1: doing it in the basements and the little clubs and
Speaker 1: ship and when I seen that, I think I went
Speaker 1: home that night and wrote like twenty raps Like I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, they run DMC.
Speaker 2: Let me understand.
Speaker 1: This was big. Yes, business a bit, but it was
Speaker 1: bigger than the basement and the small clubs hip hop
Speaker 1: were okay, So I'm going a little bit all over
Speaker 1: the Yeah, Tac I knew pop when he was in
Speaker 1: Digital Underground. Yeah he was dancing.
Speaker 2: And it's that difference between dig underground. You could see.
Speaker 1: Tupo warned. I remember we were at a Soul Train awards.
Speaker 1: It was me and Dre and we were sitting at
Speaker 1: a table and Pock walked by. You say, d told
Speaker 1: them dot dr Dre. He just can't just say Drake,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, as a stupid doctor Dre and and
Speaker 1: Pock walked by. And at that time he wasn't Tupac yet.
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was Treach or somebody. But he
Speaker 1: looked at the table and I could see he wanted
Speaker 1: to sit at the table, you know, I could see it.
Speaker 1: And then as he started to make his move as Tupac.
Speaker 1: I remember one time, see Pop was doing some strange
Speaker 1: things like all right, like he hooked up with the
Speaker 1: cats in in South central fifty second to five Deuces,
Speaker 1: which was rated.
Speaker 2: R and holds no no, I'm about to kick the
Speaker 2: produce out.
Speaker 3: But got go.
Speaker 1: He cooked up with raided all and they created that
Speaker 1: thing Thugee, which was based in south central l A.
Speaker 2: L A nothing homies in Jersey. No no no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, no. Doug life was rated R and and
Speaker 2: uh macadocious.
Speaker 1: They were out of l A right, And then you
Speaker 1: know he evolved from that, and then when he got
Speaker 1: into trouble out here, that's when Shug came in and
Speaker 1: got him out. But I remember one time I was
Speaker 1: in l A and Pop pulled up on me in
Speaker 1: a car with like this crazy ass chick, like some
Speaker 1: like strawberry bitch in the front seat. He had.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's how I noticed this of my brother.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I said in my mind.
Speaker 1: Strawberry is basically Brons did get off for crack, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1: It's a l A street saying for like a crackhu. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this broad, I know it wasn't his woman. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this bitch doing in the car?
Speaker 2: She already you know.
Speaker 1: But he's getting high and he had weeds. He had weed,
Speaker 1: he had gun, and he wanted me to sit in
Speaker 1: the car and listen to his record. I'm like, nigga, are.
Speaker 2: You riding around?
Speaker 1: Like like are you serious?
Speaker 2: Pop? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, oh gee,
Speaker 2: so you know, let me just take me.
Speaker 4: He was trying to impress you, even if he wasn't
Speaker 4: trying to press you, because every time I hang out.
Speaker 1: With you, Yeah, I tried to impress But he was.
Speaker 2: He scared me.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, pop, man, this
Speaker 1: is crazy. But I'll tell you some real inside ship.
Speaker 2: He was in my house.
Speaker 1: I had a studio called the Crackhouse, and he was
Speaker 1: at my house with the outlaws, a couple of the outlaws,
Speaker 1: and he played me hit him up and I didn't
Speaker 1: like it, and I was like, you're gonna start something.
Speaker 2: You didn't like what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't like him starting to beef. I was like, dog,
Speaker 1: you knew I was going to go. I said, you're
Speaker 1: going in on dude's.
Speaker 2: Wife and all that.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, He's like yo. And then at
Speaker 1: that time, he thought Big had shot him and I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, woll you can hear it. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: you ain't for the handling that with a record? Really
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: So we kind of was on bad terms with that
Speaker 1: because he wanted me to ride with him, but I
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't, you know, And so that we
Speaker 1: was we was kind of like in that zone when
Speaker 1: he got killed.
Speaker 2: What he was saying on that record, was he saying
Speaker 2: that that was reality or was he saying, I'm just
Speaker 2: a record.
Speaker 1: It's a Brecord, you know, talking about but just a
Speaker 1: B record, Like if you're gonna set it and you
Speaker 1: setting it yelling West Coast, you shouldn't have set this.
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to turn into a real situation,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know I'm not out wrapping you. I'm threatening you.
Speaker 1: I'm talking yeah, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like yo.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I mean, are you really even
Speaker 1: to go there? You know, I'm sitting back like who
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 2: I'm older.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is this is you know.
Speaker 2: But he wanted me going like yeah, yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is good ship, let's do it. So yeah, this man
Speaker 2: is he saying that he's smash faith. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: You heard but he said that he's sash You heard
Speaker 2: the rec he said it. But was he in the studio?
Speaker 2: Was he saying this is true?
Speaker 9: Wasn't?
Speaker 2: No, No, we didn't get there.
Speaker 1: I just listened to the playback and was like, dog,
Speaker 1: that's I don't know, he's a general too much.
Speaker 2: It's not a good idea.
Speaker 1: Plus I'm cool with New York, Like, yo, you knew
Speaker 1: what it was gonna create absolutely New York though, But
Speaker 1: it was gonna cause a crazy in all all bullshit aside,
Speaker 1: right if you think it, maybe shot you while you're
Speaker 1: making a record street ship right, Okay, so we went there.
Speaker 1: You handle this with a record, okay. But he wasn't
Speaker 1: ready for that, and I wasn't really trying to send
Speaker 1: him on noment. I was just trying to get it,
Speaker 1: get it, come on, man.
Speaker 2: But as an O G should like yes from school.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but but anyway, long story short, you know,
Speaker 1: I love pop. Pop was a good kid. I remember
Speaker 1: one night shot G came and knocked on my door
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, you need to talk to
Speaker 1: pop and he said, you like one of the only
Speaker 1: people he'll listen to. And they was like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know he gonna he's ain't listening to me at that time.
Speaker 1: So you know, he kind of got caught in the song.
Speaker 1: See when you're when you're not in the LA gang
Speaker 1: scene and you come to l A and they embrace you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you're not necessarily safe, you know, And it wasn't
Speaker 1: where he was supposed to be. Like, you know, you
Speaker 1: you make records, you should be on your way out
Speaker 1: of the game. You shouldn't be making records and then
Speaker 1: going into it, you know, because you're making flyers like
Speaker 1: a stream. Nigga has the power of animinity. Who shot him?
Speaker 1: Pooky Low? Who's Pooky Low? Nobody fucking knows who shot him?
Speaker 1: Iced Tea Iced Ta gonna be on this flyer, He'll
Speaker 1: be right here. You know. You no longer have that
Speaker 1: ability to disappear into the hood. Niggas could pop up
Speaker 1: on you any motherfucker where. So you gotta let that
Speaker 1: ship go. You gotta let that shit go. You're no
Speaker 1: longer in the underworld. Now you're part of the mainstream,
Speaker 1: and you gotta you have to behave like that.
Speaker 4: So did you did you actually see like after that,
Speaker 4: did you see that park was going down the road
Speaker 4: that wasn't necessarily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't, you know, it was just not a
Speaker 1: good place to be, uh, you know, but you know
Speaker 1: he was rolling with Sugar. Sugar got him out of
Speaker 1: jails with everybody had turned thy back on the truck
Speaker 1: when he got caught in that mess, Sug came and saved.
Speaker 2: Now, what was your relationship with show Sugar was nw
Speaker 2: A's bodyguard and.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but he rolled with them and being Sugar
Speaker 1: always had a cool cool like understanding no beef because
Speaker 1: we did no business. But you gotta understand, Sugar is
Speaker 1: a football player and he basically had at connections to
Speaker 1: the mob or the mob the cats in his neighborhood
Speaker 1: where he's from, and they were bloods and he surround.
Speaker 2: Himself with a gang of bluzz so that was power
Speaker 2: and and something.
Speaker 1: But then again, my boys they were like, we the
Speaker 1: other side, so that don't matter to us. And I
Speaker 1: got niggas as big, big as Shug, So it's like,
Speaker 1: what's happening?
Speaker 15: And before you fucked me up with that one, my
Speaker 15: boys was the others, like you know, for the rap game,
Speaker 15: all they knew was Sug at one point.
Speaker 1: That's but but but see, I'm not operating as as
Speaker 1: that type of a militia. They got go yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's like okay, and that's chugging. We
Speaker 1: we everybody was cool, everybody understood everybody. Everybody had their limits.
Speaker 1: But me and Sugar have never shared a negative word.
Speaker 1: He was very respectful in areas and we respect each other.
Speaker 1: We we aren't enemy, so to speak. But then at
Speaker 1: the same time, from two different sides of the gang world,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying I'm from a crypt side. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they like, whatever, can I.
Speaker 2: Your question with this is going to a different stuff
Speaker 2: when we talk about beef. What was the deal with you?
Speaker 2: L L said I crushed more dre man Ice Tea girl.
Speaker 15: Well, what happened was, L I had asked that because
Speaker 15: I mean, not that I know of, not that I know,
Speaker 15: because because Ice Tea is a real nigga, I just
Speaker 15: want to that was like that was that was.
Speaker 2: Equivalent to Biggie and parton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no that I didn't take it like that.
Speaker 1: What happened was with with with him was he was
Speaker 1: just saying he was the greatest effort ever. And I
Speaker 1: was coming out from the West Coast, and how was
Speaker 1: I going to be able to be taken seriously if
Speaker 1: I let someone say they were the best. So I
Speaker 1: had to wrap my I was just like, fuck, whoever
Speaker 1: you think you are, nigga? You know, I had a
Speaker 1: whole coast on my back. So I was like, let's go.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Whether I thought I could actually beat him rapping whatever,
Speaker 1: but I had to stand my ground, and I thought
Speaker 1: I might have been able to be more clever than him.
Speaker 2: Who knows, but it was no. That shit got shut down.
Speaker 1: Bam. I'd actually shut down that wrap beef because damn
Speaker 1: because June, because l L wanted to be part of Zulu.
Speaker 1: And there was a moment where they were asking me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, if it's up to me, you know,
Speaker 1: me and him, it's kind of beef and and ship.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, cool, yeah, because
Speaker 1: Africa Islam put me in the game. I'm catching on
Speaker 1: them right, so so l you know, but it was
Speaker 1: just record ship. It wasn't. It was just he was
Speaker 1: a better rapper. Wasn't threatening each other's lies and ship
Speaker 1: and all that. And I did this and that, and
Speaker 1: I think he said I took the record the thing
Speaker 1: to the bathroom or whatever.
Speaker 2: But you know whatever, you know that's not ground some murder.
Speaker 2: So now that you're both like TV.
Speaker 1: By storm like yeah, both the rapes.
Speaker 2: That, how does that? I ran into L and Monte Carlo.
Speaker 2: We were doing what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? All right?
Speaker 2: To see all right, what's going on over.
Speaker 1: Ben Zenos in the I was watching TV. I saw
Speaker 1: you get shot on TV. I was like, your relatives
Speaker 1: shot you crazy? Shot?
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Let's get this.
Speaker 1: We went we went money Carlos doing a television convention,
Speaker 1: and uh I chopped it up with L L. And
Speaker 1: you know it was like yo, man at the back
Speaker 1: in them days, this is what we had to do.
Speaker 1: We had to stay in our ground, no disrespect, and
Speaker 1: we shook and everything. But I had this recently. This
Speaker 1: happened maybe five years ago.
Speaker 2: Up to that point, I had n't crossed the L
Speaker 2: L's path, nothing like that whole time.
Speaker 1: We don't have to. You know, we live in different
Speaker 1: coasts and you know.
Speaker 16: But.
Speaker 2: Hollywood didn't bring you all like like what about you?
Speaker 2: What about mod? Did you cross? I love no when
Speaker 2: that happened, did you ever we gotta? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that serious.
Speaker 1: It was rap ship. It was rap ship. It was
Speaker 1: never that serious. It was just like I could rap
Speaker 1: better than you.
Speaker 4: Know, as a as a young dude coming up and
Speaker 4: then as a young dude coming up like embarrassment.
Speaker 17: Come on, man, lies that young dude coming up right,
Speaker 17: So I see you like you? You you were that
Speaker 17: soldier boy fors rap. You're like, yo, that ain't real
Speaker 17: hip hop or whatever, blah blah blah.
Speaker 18: Like I agree with you because I come up under
Speaker 18: seeing nigg upon the North. I know, real hip hop,
Speaker 18: but I'm taking it as like he's a young boy
Speaker 18: coming up trying to use a platform just to make it.
Speaker 2: Out the hood. So it's like I feel like if
Speaker 2: I was him, like I'll be hurt to.
Speaker 1: Hear that first, because like I look up to you, like,
Speaker 1: why are you gonna shit on me?
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make it out feed my fan. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's a backstory to that.
Speaker 1: This is what happened.
Speaker 2: This is why we were talking about phones off and cameras.
Speaker 1: So we were I was making a mixtape for one
Speaker 1: of my homemies in the hood, right, This dude just
Speaker 1: a regular nigga. I'm on his wrap rapping for him
Speaker 1: free right. So when I get into the booth, the
Speaker 1: niggas start like like saying, niggas don't want to hear you.
Speaker 2: They want to see Soldier boy.
Speaker 1: They want to they pumping me up then using this
Speaker 1: ship to get me hot.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, they don't want to hear you. Nigga
Speaker 2: didn't want Hurricane Chris nigga. They hit my g bone.
Speaker 2: I'm like, whack ass motherfuckers, And I went on a
Speaker 2: rant and I licked you up.
Speaker 1: I went on a ramp and the niggas taped it
Speaker 1: and put it out and put it on in the
Speaker 1: front of their mixtape. So I'm in fuck them. So
Speaker 1: that was That was one of my iced t old
Speaker 1: man rants. It was he was never supposed to hurt it.
Speaker 1: So now I'm in Arizona mine and my business. My
Speaker 1: son goes soldier boys on the internet talking shit about you.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what so pearing that they playing the
Speaker 1: tape back keep listening. So now I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: can't back down. I did say this ship yea. So
Speaker 1: now I'm out there, so let me verify, let me
Speaker 1: break down what I said. And I just told the
Speaker 1: nigga break straight up, nigga, this is how I feel
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah and what and then rest
Speaker 1: is history.
Speaker 2: But at the time, I felt the bar was starting
Speaker 2: to drop.
Speaker 1: And I just think that once again, there needs to
Speaker 1: be a degree of difficulty in hip hop that always
Speaker 1: has been there and that's what makes it something special.
Speaker 1: There's something about a star. A star is something you
Speaker 1: can't reach. That's why Michael Jordan is a star. You
Speaker 1: can't reach it.
Speaker 2: And that's why we look up to him.
Speaker 1: But when you're doing something that everybody can do, you
Speaker 1: not really a start and doing what anybody can do,
Speaker 1: show me something I can't do, and you get to praise.
Speaker 1: So you know, God blessed soldier boy. But you know
Speaker 1: this is what I do know. Niggas will end up
Speaker 1: in their own ship if that's what they deserve. So
Speaker 1: now you're seeing this guy and looking where.
Speaker 2: His life is. You see them saying, so.
Speaker 1: You you don't really gotta do nothing to nobody. They
Speaker 1: gonna end up where they're supposed to be because of
Speaker 1: their actions.
Speaker 2: So you know, God bless you. But now we want
Speaker 2: to you know, try.
Speaker 14: That's like, that's like if you ever heard about the
Speaker 14: laws of Murphy, what can happen will happen, And that's
Speaker 14: what murphys Murphy.
Speaker 2: And let me just tell you something you want to do.
Speaker 1: Any gang brother, your guy, you know the history in
Speaker 1: this room, man.
Speaker 2: You know said, yeah, you know ice Icey could killed.
Speaker 1: Hold on.
Speaker 2: Whatever it was. It was real because.
Speaker 1: Real ship though, and I respect it because.
Speaker 2: Hold on fare the table I got to spent on you.
Speaker 2: It was real because like like I remember when we
Speaker 2: had the artist call and we was on Timmy Boy
Speaker 2: and When Time and which is now owned by Warner Bros.
Speaker 16: Right right, exactly the same time. But it's crazy because
Speaker 16: it all happened at that time. But when he came
Speaker 16: out with the cop Killer song, you know, we just
Speaker 16: got it down. Tommy Boy grew from Boston, you know,
Speaker 16: got a little single deal. We put a song out
Speaker 16: called one the Chamber. So when the Chamber, we talked
Speaker 16: about two kids who had got killed in Boston, and
Speaker 16: the police got over with it whatever, you know what
Speaker 16: I'm saying, shot shot dude under a car, shot and
Speaker 16: other dude in the back of the head, and they
Speaker 16: got over with it. So we ended up getting dropped
Speaker 16: from Tommy Boy because the Boston Police Patrol's associated had
Speaker 16: suited us.
Speaker 1: So I forgot.
Speaker 16: There was an interview and it was something that I
Speaker 16: fo don't know if you did an interview, if I
Speaker 16: did an interview, and it was just something because since
Speaker 16: he had the cop Kill song and we got with
Speaker 16: the cop that was trying to compare things and it
Speaker 16: was saying that I said, well, as far as I know,
Speaker 16: you know, even though of course I see legend in
Speaker 16: the game, but the song from my understood was kind
Speaker 16: of rock. It was rap rock, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16: I said, it was kind of different. I said, you know,
Speaker 16: I said, we didn't. I said, oh, it was just
Speaker 16: a rap song. We was just pretty much talking about
Speaker 16: you know. I mean it was almost like the same thing.
Speaker 16: But we went out and did a show at the
Speaker 16: Earth of an Empathey.
Speaker 1: So it's just the five of us. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't have no security nothing this ship.
Speaker 16: So it was four of us, plus we had this
Speaker 16: little Jamaican nigga that did on the hook for one
Speaker 16: of the songs or whatever.
Speaker 1: So when when when when I had K came with
Speaker 1: mad Man, This was the time I guess where they
Speaker 1: was trying to squash the crypt the truth. He had
Speaker 1: like a hundred niggas with. I'm like so like one
Speaker 1: of the niggas was like, yo, I.
Speaker 16: See over off Man, I said ship sometime I think right,
Speaker 16: I'm like, fuck right, I mean niggas.
Speaker 1: Look on my side of the story was this when
Speaker 1: the ship happened, the word got out that R. S
Speaker 1: O said that we I was the reason they got
Speaker 1: dropped right right right. But that's that's how it came
Speaker 1: at me. So they was like your r s O
Speaker 1: said something about you act the way so like like
Speaker 1: I was telling them in my I keep every winter
Speaker 1: breast of who he might have beef, this, that and
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 2: So I think r RS.
Speaker 1: So it popped up on our radar, like kid, it's
Speaker 1: rs OL. Niggas says some fly. So then I'm at
Speaker 1: the place and they go there, they go right. But
Speaker 1: we felt it though, because I was like, look, I said, look.
Speaker 16: I said, look, I said, man, I said, we gotta
Speaker 16: stay together, and said nobody wants nobody run.
Speaker 1: I'm giving a fuck what happens. We're gonna get mopped
Speaker 1: up together. Somebody run. We got a problem. Like the niggas.
Speaker 16: The little Jamaican nigga was like, oh, I didn't even
Speaker 16: like he was like, what the fuck did I get myself?
Speaker 1: I'm not even like.
Speaker 2: We wasn't in that mode. They just identified him.
Speaker 1: So I'm walked over to you remember no no, because
Speaker 1: your man came. He was like, I t want holler.
Speaker 16: So I said, I'm gonna go this like I said,
Speaker 16: I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna go talk to
Speaker 16: the old. We went over that top and I never
Speaker 16: forget this.
Speaker 1: And you said that.
Speaker 16: She was like, look, man, I ain't got no beef
Speaker 16: for nothing. He says, Man, you see these nigga that's
Speaker 16: the great street, this, that, and that. I'm looking out.
Speaker 16: I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm looking at it like
Speaker 16: I see it. He's like, man, fuck that. He's like,
Speaker 16: let's go kill some cops together.
Speaker 2: That's what you said. I was like going to the ship, like, look,
Speaker 2: I know my beat is not with you. I beat
Speaker 2: you out with you.
Speaker 1: And also, I never I never, I never really took
Speaker 1: secondhand information. You know, if somebody say you said something,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna get you and I'm gonna see if
Speaker 1: you'll say it again, you know, because that cause niggas
Speaker 1: get killed over secondhand information.
Speaker 2: It wasn't real.
Speaker 1: So if I can't walk up to Ben and say, yo,
Speaker 1: what's really good? But I was really more or less
Speaker 1: like I ain't mad man. That shit went bad when
Speaker 1: my shit got banned, shit went bad for a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you know, and everybody said it was my fault.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this shit is real, right, we're real. Like,
Speaker 1: so if you guys have had heated at the cops,
Speaker 1: then let's go get down. Because I was always like
Speaker 1: that with niggas. I'm like you so quick you kill
Speaker 1: another homie over an orange soda, but when they come you.
Speaker 2: Run like where's your gangster?
Speaker 1: Still to this day, yeah, they had the American flag
Speaker 1: with all red and blue. Remember the stage turn like
Speaker 1: that was history.
Speaker 16: A lot of people didn't even like that wasn't documented,
Speaker 16: but you had the bloods and clips on stage.
Speaker 1: They had American from a big flag. It was big.
Speaker 16: It's about as many niggas more than here, So it
Speaker 16: was I mean, it was that was an ill moment.
Speaker 16: It was a moment where LA was and I commend
Speaker 16: you for that. That was big to do that that
Speaker 16: that hadn't been done before as far.
Speaker 1: As I knew. You know, I wanted to try to
Speaker 1: get the l A gangs to stop killing each other.
Speaker 1: I still and this is like all in the same gang. Now,
Speaker 1: this is during the ninety two this is the truth?
Speaker 1: Which truth is what's going on that's prior to that?
Speaker 2: And why were you on that record?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: That was after I was. I was, after all in
Speaker 2: the same game.
Speaker 1: But you was the reason Boston started.
Speaker 5: When Colors came out, That's when everything started forgetting about
Speaker 5: After Colors came everything started was everything started going like
Speaker 5: in take of Boston when Colors came out.
Speaker 16: Then that's when really I noticed Boston started ganging up.
Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying. It was right after Colors Colors, like,
Speaker 16: I mean, niggas beefing the movie theaters. Nigga was going
Speaker 16: crazy when that ship came out.
Speaker 1: You know. You know the thing of it is with me, man,
Speaker 1: that's like, oh d I'm responsible for a lot of
Speaker 1: negative ship that happened. But really I've always been the
Speaker 1: person that's really tried to get peace. You know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, my message can be misconstrued,
Speaker 1: you know, because I can go into that mode, but
Speaker 1: that's not really my get down. My get down is
Speaker 1: not that. And when people meet me, they go, wow,
Speaker 1: you so mild, managed you so cool? You know, where
Speaker 1: do all this gangster shit come from? I say, Well,
Speaker 1: people like me are the ones you gotta look out for.
Speaker 1: The nigga walking around talking all tough and shit like that,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any power. That's why I don't understand
Speaker 1: why Donald Trump, now that he has all this part,
Speaker 1: needs to kind of fuck because when you have that ability,
Speaker 1: then you don't need to raise your voice on Twitter.
Speaker 2: You can just become calm because it's it's nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, so yeah, you know a lot now. Niggas
Speaker 1: see me now and I'm not the normal rapper. They like,
Speaker 1: why you ain't. Yeah, I'm like, I don't, don't need to.
Speaker 5: Be like that.
Speaker 1: That's all that extra ship right then that's over. It's
Speaker 1: it's a different life, it's different time, but the same
Speaker 1: ship can happen. Niggas can bring the grammy.
Speaker 4: I just want to I just want to do, you know, appreciation.
Speaker 4: I've seen my brother ching bing is here, my brother
Speaker 4: bach shows here. I just want to diego Benzino.
Speaker 2: It's a great podcast going on right Ice, Team.
Speaker 1: Ice.
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 4: I can never thank you enough for anything you ever did,
Speaker 4: because you know what, I could never repay you for
Speaker 4: anything you ever did.
Speaker 2: Me tell you something for the baking too, man, I
Speaker 2: can never repay you for anything you ever did to mereak.
Speaker 2: And you know how I repay you with that.
Speaker 4: I repay you with that is because I always do
Speaker 4: something for somebody who could never repay me.
Speaker 1: That's a game. That's real talk paying for its real
Speaker 1: talk paying forward.
Speaker 4: Because you're so big, I can't even it's nothing I
Speaker 4: can ever offer you. I can never offer you money,
Speaker 4: I can never offer you anything. All I can offer
Speaker 4: you is real friends.
Speaker 2: But it's always a treatment.
Speaker 1: Players meet, it's always a treat when you get around
Speaker 1: cats to your own caliber and you can chop it up.
Speaker 1: And it ain't nobody bragging and talking about that unnecessary
Speaker 1: shit because at some point everybody has everything, right, So
Speaker 1: there's nothing to brag about now because we all have everything.
Speaker 1: So now what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: What have you done?
Speaker 1: What are you giving back? You know, that's how really
Speaker 1: wealthy people brag. You know that they talk about how
Speaker 1: much money they gave away. That's not what they have
Speaker 1: because we all got the gats and books. So what
Speaker 1: are you giving I'll give away ten million this year.
Speaker 1: I gave back fifty minutes. That's why. That's how the
Speaker 1: baller's brag. You know, we're still on the niggas side
Speaker 1: trying to get something.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We ain't there yet.
Speaker 1: But my thing is if Ice Tea is really just
Speaker 1: a person that is trying to show people there's no limits.
Speaker 1: Everywhere you want to go, you can do it. We
Speaker 1: all come from the hood and you set your own limits.
Speaker 1: You know, if you listen to the crowd, gonna end
Speaker 1: up with them. You did, you can just do whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck you want. And uh, you know, you just
Speaker 1: got to drop a lot of that negative ship. You
Speaker 1: just got to drop a lot of that boisterous, arrogant
Speaker 1: shit to get you shot.
Speaker 2: And you get you.
Speaker 1: You just learn the mellow out. And all of us
Speaker 1: in this room should live as long as we want.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't go to prison.
Speaker 2: All that we pass it.
Speaker 1: Once you get out of your twenties, that's the kill
Speaker 1: zone right there. If you make it out of that,
Speaker 1: there's no Now you're og. So here's the playing Xbox Nordy.
Speaker 1: That's all I do.
Speaker 2: I play one year old. Let me just say this,
Speaker 2: this right, got a one year old on.
Speaker 4: Here's a problem is they never expected us to make
Speaker 4: twenty one. Now after we make past twenty five, now
Speaker 4: they call us a OG. But back in the days,
Speaker 4: they used to call you a OG after thirty five.
Speaker 1: Forty, But now they call you a OG twenty. Is
Speaker 1: that messing up all community? I'm out of too, g
Speaker 1: understand this, man, I'm on hold, I'm on another channel, right,
Speaker 1: I'm on the channel it. It's cause niggas I fuck with,
Speaker 1: I like, and that's the only people I care about.
Speaker 2: Can you send me that app?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want?
Speaker 2: Anything else is.
Speaker 1: Relevant, and they can come up and they can learn.
Speaker 1: If they don't want to take advice, they can learn
Speaker 1: the way we learn. You did. What I'm saying might
Speaker 1: have to make detoy through the penitentiary, but they gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 2: If I funk with niggas, I funk with and that's
Speaker 2: the only Let me just tell you something. I can
Speaker 2: never thank you for anything you ever.
Speaker 1: Did for me.
Speaker 2: That's really and you continue to do it for me.
Speaker 2: You have never fronted on me.
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate everything. I really love you as
Speaker 1: a person. I love you as an artist. You already
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 4: I know. I can guarantee you when we go downstairs,
Speaker 4: I can probably know more lyrics than you know to
Speaker 4: your own ship.
Speaker 1: Stop it. No, no, no, no, that was.
Speaker 2: Because the way he called his verses. No, he really knows.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take that.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, Ice Team, big up
Speaker 4: to your beautiful wife, Coachy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything is good. We're not gonna ask you no
Speaker 1: Coco questions and none of that right. You know why
Speaker 1: this is hip hop right? So to me, well, you
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: You open that door, You open that.
Speaker 1: Door, you open that door.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but your wife, Chanelle is in the building. I
Speaker 2: got a one year old daughter, look y'all beautiful.
Speaker 10: Like you.
Speaker 1: I was happy.
Speaker 2: I'm happy.
Speaker 1: I'm just very fortunate to still be here, to still
Speaker 1: be in the game. I never wanted to be at
Speaker 1: the top of the game. I just always wanted to
Speaker 1: be in the game. Just bubble, you know, and just chill.
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn fifty nine. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that, Nigga. I'm standing the waist, handsome in the face,
Speaker 1: nig you know.
Speaker 5: What to do.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna know you for fifty one. So so
Speaker 2: just from that age, just from my age.
Speaker 1: My perspective is going to be a little bit deep.
Speaker 1: Of course, the people I grew up with is a
Speaker 1: little bit different. So that's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: you say you cut from a different cloth. I'm cut
Speaker 1: from a different cloth. So I hold that code that
Speaker 1: all that I've always held it. And I was telling
Speaker 1: them earlier, the only thing you leave on earth is
Speaker 1: your your reputation and respect that I've earned.
Speaker 2: So my kids.
Speaker 9: Forget the money, Jack Thriller, were coming down, you're.
Speaker 2: Telling me, But I'm in it like this, right.
Speaker 1: The only thing that that you have in life is
Speaker 1: your name and your respect and your honor and my kids.
Speaker 2: It's regardless how much money I can live. And it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: If my son says I'm a little ice and they
Speaker 1: say your father was a sucker, then that's his life.
Speaker 1: He's gonna live under that. So if I'm an honorable cat,
Speaker 1: people are gonna look out for him. They're gonna go,
Speaker 1: that's your dad, you know, the same way we look
Speaker 1: out for Biggs kids, the same way we look out
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm all about. It's by maintaining my
Speaker 1: respect and my honor for my kids. That's all. It
Speaker 1: ain't about the money. It's not that that shit, you know,
Speaker 1: all that shit comes and goes. It's all about that.
Speaker 1: As long as you a player has his health and
Speaker 1: his freedom, anything can happen. Right. If you have your
Speaker 1: health and your freedom, that's all that matters. So I'm
Speaker 1: at home playing Xbox, eating cockos. I take my black
Speaker 1: ass the law and order. I come back home. I
Speaker 1: mod my motherfucking business. I'm trying to stay the fuck
Speaker 1: out the way. I don't want to be on your blogs,
Speaker 1: and none of that old bullshit pop out when I've
Speaker 1: got something to sell. When i'm pushing something other than that,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm chilling because we all got everything we need.
Speaker 1: Remember this, we all got every thing we need. It's
Speaker 1: all about now what you want? And I can't tell
Speaker 1: you what you want. We got what we need. What
Speaker 1: do you need? A pair of pants and shoes, a
Speaker 1: car and rent and food.
Speaker 2: That's all you need. Everything else is what you want, right,
Speaker 2: That's all you need. But we got that. So your
Speaker 2: life is based around.
Speaker 1: What you want and and and you don't know what
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 2: I might just want to chill and watch TV from
Speaker 2: from the bottom of my heart. And I'm gonna speak
Speaker 2: for my partner as well, both partners. It's kind of awkward.
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Speaker 9: of us.
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Speaker 4: I said, thank you so much because you know why
Speaker 4: I security.
Speaker 2: There really isn't no other platform of hip hop.
Speaker 4: No, we will give real talk, but not only that,
Speaker 4: we praise our legend, right because every time in our game,
Speaker 4: after you get ten years, you're finished. And in every
Speaker 4: other music or genre of anything, after you get ten years,
Speaker 4: you're a legend. Well come on, man, when you get
Speaker 4: ten years and hip hop saying you oh it, and
Speaker 4: we don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: But here that's another place, you know. My I mean,
Speaker 1: if I met George Clinton, I know George Clinton. We've
Speaker 1: got telling much money, he got break. He's motherfucking George
Speaker 1: Clinton absolutely got it, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's how I mean. You know, I'm not a
Speaker 2: digtional swoots. Just so you know that you are George
Speaker 2: Clinton and hip hop makes you you may the kids.
Speaker 9: This this my kids.
Speaker 2: This is my children, all all of them. They might
Speaker 2: not look like it, they all my children. That's dope.
Speaker 4: That's all my but you are the George Clinton of
Speaker 4: our hip hop and we're gonna continue to praise you.
Speaker 2: Keep you alive. Come on, make sure thank you God.
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