WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ Ice-T | (Ep.70 ) 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.480 What's something y'all was going on BROD Radio. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.200 He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey Hanks agree, that is 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.360 your boy? You know he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.000 What Up is dj E f N? 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.520 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.280 players in music and sports. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:18.920 You know what I mean? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.480 The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:24.520 for drunk facts. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.160 This is Drinks Radio. Every day is New Year's Eve. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:27.720 That's right? 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.360 What he good be hoping? 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:33.400 He's still boy? 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:34.640 What Up? 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.000 Is dj E f N? And this is gonna take 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:37.680 a crazy. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.520 Wall Radio black drink. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.160 He's a utainer Crazy Roll Radio. I did that on purpose. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.800 I thought somebody would say no, but nobody's the same thing. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.920 So we have hands down my favorite o G A 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.720 person that every time I call him, he responds he 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.760 he's never been Hollywood. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.760 He's never played this Hollywood game. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.479 As he was coming here, I told all my friends, 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.840 I said, listen, they said, you know I you know 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.680 what I said, Ice gonna come doub low and walk 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.520 up byself. Absolutely, it's exactly who he is. He's been 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.960 like that ever since I ever knew him. And he 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.640 continues to be the realest person. I. I strive every 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.920 day to try. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:25.920 To be like this man. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.920 When I'm you know, have that many years in this game, 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:32.959 I would like to be like this stout. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:33.480 Stop it. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.839 And if you don't have Twitter, you should get Twitter 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.480 just to follow this man at final level. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.959 He drops the daily game every day. I'm always watching. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.160 I always suspect it. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.800 And in case you guys do not know who is 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.600 in the building right now, we got the legendary motherfucking 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.320 ice tea in the building makes something? 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.560 What's that were down? 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:01.800 Great? 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:02.680 Look at our bottles? 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:16.840 Look but this is That's one of the first questions 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:22.160 I have is because most people that have the experience, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.519 have the years and have the game, where that like, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:25.600 go what happened to the life. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:31.880 EXPERI I look like, what's set up? 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:33.679 What is going on? 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.919 Ogs in the game that has been in the game 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:38.959 as long as you have are. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.160 Not social media savvy. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.600 They're not on Instagram, they're not on Twitter, they're not 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.760 on these uh ways that their fans can actually hit you. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.480 Why did you feel that you embrace social media? 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.760 In my opinion, you know when I when I when 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.520 I first started, we used to have a fan clubs, 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.959 you know, and people would write in and then we 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.400 would send them back stuff. And I had my homie 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.200 Shiney Shine ran the fan club, and it was very 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.960 important to get my fans on board and to make 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.799 them feel like they was part of whatever, whatever my 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.359 movement was. So when I got into it, I looked 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.720 at out. I wasn't really into Facebook. I don't have 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:19.440 a face any because I'm too excited with. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:20.080 It, Norrie one. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.840 I like to let people know, but I'm very private too, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.639 and I know that social media is the number one 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.080 tool of law enforcement. Not that I'm breaking the law anymore, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.720 but you just given giving them a fucker so much 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.080 information about yourself. And all the people that watch you 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.440 on social media aren't necessarily your friends. Your enemies could 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.200 be laying in it right there too and pop up 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.240 on your punk ass wherever the fuck, you know. So 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.680 you're just like you really want to lead lead a 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.560 nigga up to your front door. Really, I don't know, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.160 you know. So I got into Twitter, and I liked 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.400 how fast Twitter was, and I just got on there 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.280 and I found a way that I could actually talk 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.400 to my fans and some people. It was a cool 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.160 feeling I mean I block you though. If you say anything, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.840 I block you. I blocked with the quickness. I got 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.040 a zero dumb fuck policy. If you say anything to 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.160 me that you would normally not say to me in 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:13.640 the street. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.320 Even a bad joke will get your block. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.200 Like I'm like, oh you think we that much? Friends block? 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.320 You know now that I learned the mute button, it's 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:27.080 better than the block. Mute is if somebody, you know, 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.400 some dumb fucks talking to you, you hit mute and 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.040 they don't know they blocked, so they keep on talking 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.360 and they just are talking to nobody. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.160 Teach us how to so they know they don't get 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:39.360 to you know, some people. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.559 They like it. Oh yeah, I got ice tea to block, 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:42.880 like that's. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.760 Some type of badge, dumb fuck honor or some bullshit. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.080 You didn't so I just mute you and then you 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.920 think you still talking to me, but no longer. Let's 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:56.960 make some nowse for drink. Can's learning about the okay, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:01.040 So now I want you to take me because a 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.520 lot of ogs. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.680 They criticized this era, and now that they considered me 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.040 a ogy, I sort of criticized this era, but the 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.480 realist era, a lot of people say the nineties, but 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.920 the realist era was actually the era that took place 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.280 before the nineties, when you had the self destruction, you 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.360 had late air violence, the late eighties. So I want 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.440 you to describe to me that, Like, first of all, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.040 how in that same vein? 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:25.560 Yes, but. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:29.600 When you first got in the game, what year was 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.039 that I started? 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:35.480 My first record came out like night well early eighty six, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.040 eighty six, yeah, yeah, my first single was eighty two, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.240 so cause you know I was you was in the 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.800 breaking right, yeah, yeah, But I made records with Mellie 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.760 Mail and all that kind of stuff after my first album. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.680 And you know, I believe that radio and hip hop 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.000 steers the bus to what music is. So at that time, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.039 the bus was aimed tour groups like Public Anemy Tour, 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.520 care Rest One. So as an artist, you knew they 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.720 were in the studio. You knew Ice Cube was over 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.240 here dropping some shit. You knew Ghetto Boys was coming, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.440 so you knew you could keep it gainst it, but 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.680 you had to have a political aspect to it. You 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.920 just couldn't be just talking no nonsense. You had to 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.880 come and break it down. So when you know, okay, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.280 rock Hem's in the studio. You know who else is 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.640 out there. You had to bring a bar up to 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.440 that attempt to attempt to, you know, do your best. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.320 So there was a degree of difficulty and agree agree 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:33.360 of respect you wanted along with being able to have 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.160 a good record. Like I didn't people go like, yo, Man. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:36.920 I didn't want. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.520 People to say yo, I like your beat. I like 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.120 niggas to walk up to me and say, yo, Ice, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.920 thank you, thank you for what man. I was. You know, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.840 I was going up north. I was listening to your 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:46.600 plague yourself. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.040 But now let me ask you, because I'm so you 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.880 came out before n w A. Yes, so you are 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.760 technically the first gangster rapper ever. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:56.720 Not true. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.440 I get the credit to Schoolly Ds Philly, Yes, Schoolly D. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.120 Because I was making my records and stuff. But I 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.040 wasn't known. And I was in the club and I 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:12.120 heard ps K and this ship came on, you know, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.400 and I called it dust like the music sound like 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:15.480 he was on Angel, Dust like. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:17.440 PSK. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.040 I've been around the dust, you know, I know what 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.520 I know what that is. And I got some homies 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.600 and Steak dusted and they were looking at you, looking 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.560 at you crazy like, are you do you like me? 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:30.840 Are you about to stab me? 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.080 Yeah? 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.360 Replace coming out? 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.440 Look yeah, so so schooly d. So I researched this 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.400 record and they say, that's PSK, that's park Side Killers, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.520 that's that's a that's a Philly game. So he was 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.880 singing about it, a game called park Side Killers. So 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.840 I was like, Kim, this is the vibe of that song. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.400 So when I went in to make six in the Morning, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.520 I kind of used the and the cadence. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:08.520 Guys too long Christmas more. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:09.080 Than all right? 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.160 Okay, all right, now all right now now we're looking 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.600 like drink champs. Sorry. Yeah. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.320 So, so I used the vibe in the cadences of 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.040 ps K to do my first song, which was would 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.280 he say ps. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.280 K making that green? I say, six? Next morning police 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:29.880 had my door, so I know, now it makes so 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.160 much okay, And. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.400 And and then C said that Boys in the Hood 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.320 is part two to six in the morning. So six 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.079 in the morning police had my door. The boys in 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.480 the Hood are always hung, you know. So everyone was 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.960 riding that same kind of cadence and that that smooth vibe. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.800 But you know, I talked, I took schoolly D and 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.240 I made it really graphic. We would we had oozi's 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.240 and hand grenades and because. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.160 I probably got But what I'm trying to say is 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.120 even schoolly d like for people that you know who 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.240 school he did is. But he wasn't like a big figure, right, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.040 So what made you say I'm gonna take this chance 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:09.439 and stick with it? 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.600 Because you did six in the morning, but you kept going. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.960 But see, the thing of it was like I wasn't 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.120 no rapper like I was in I was in the 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.800 streets for real, for real, and I just happened to 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.400 get a chance to rap. So I would try to 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.800 rap like New York rappers and stuff, and my homies 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.160 would be like, yo, niggas say that shit you be 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.400 saying because I used to make gang raps. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.200 I used to make raps like we do a gang rap. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.600 But like this, let's see uh strolling through the city 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.680 in the middle of the night, niggas on my left 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.400 and niggas on my right yelling cut cut rip. That mean, nigga, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.599 I see now, if you bad enough, come fuck with me. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.120 I seen another nigga. I say crip again. He say, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.240 fuck a crip nigga. This is his brim So we 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.360 pulled out the Roscoe. Roscoe said, crack, I look again. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.840 Nigga was shooting back, so we fell to the ground, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.280 aimed for his head. One more shot. The nigga was dead. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.920 We walked over to him, took his gun, spitting his face, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.319 and began to run. So if you see another nigga 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.800 laying dead in the street and the puddler blood from 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.880 his head to his feet, I hope it's time all 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.120 you bitch ass niggas get hip. This fuck of brim 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:21.959 nigga its west Side Rolling sixty cos that's gangster d 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.920 What year was that? That was in high school? 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:25.360 That before? 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.199 Yeah, let me tell you something right now. When you 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.840 go to l A, the most famous gangs. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.200 The Rolling six, Yeah it went that cra high school. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.280 C Yeah, this hustle. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.120 Yes, he's from sixties, but I'm I'm from I'm from 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.760 back in the day with Nelsy and Keeta rocking. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:51.199 Yeah yeah yeah, John now you know. But anyway, but 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.280 I mean see. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.079 I went to Crench, y'all, So y'all had sixties Hoover 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.959 Harlem a tray gangsters, Harlem his thirties. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.319 Yeah, Harlem is the thirties. So they named that from 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:02.679 New York. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.880 Yes, the Harlem crips, rolling sixties eight trade, gangster, these 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:12.199 e tgs. They then you have have hoovers, you know, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.160 and that basically what. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.240 That center of South anyway. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.880 Anyway, my nephew man, so the gangster rap cames from 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.160 really rapping about gangster ship. So my homies was like, Yo, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:28.760 nigga talk about that ship. We do. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.920 But that's what I'm trying apolicize. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.600 But the point I'm trying to make is because one 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.360 us on the East Coast, we had only heard like 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.920 us on the East Coast, we were re public enemy fans. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.320 We were fans of you don't care. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.880 Us one who people we knew were against them, but 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.679 they were preaching right. So when the West Coast, the 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.520 first time we heard the West. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.839 Coast like you made me scared to go to the 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.280 West Coast, Like I was like, what the I don 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.839 want to go to preaching the street. I don't want 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.679 to go there for the god. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.120 I was like, I used to listen to your ship 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.880 secure like I don't want to go there. But whatever 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.400 you and but what made you say that? Because I 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:09.920 don't want. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.400 To call it a gangster rap, just the reality rap 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.560 at that point because it wasn't and it wasn't really reality, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.240 because it wasn't everyone's reality. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:19.559 It was just my reality. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.280 That's why I'm saying, what made you say, I'm gonna 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.679 put this reality wrapped. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.920 On the forefront and the world is going to gravitate. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.400 I had no idy fucking it didn't have no I 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.040 just I just had to wrap for the cats in 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.959 my neighborhood. Now, the people in my neighborhood, that's what 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.000 you got. You know, you're getting the stage they like, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.840 niggas say, are set nigga? Rep one eleven nigga when 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.160 you up there Ice? Because you know then I had 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.520 like diplomatic immunity because I was fucking with Downty hunters. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.680 I was fucking with there That's boys. I was fucking 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.920 with ath and Park boys. I was fun with lots 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.120 of gangs, so I was. I came out with the 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.959 West Coast on my back, all the gangs, so I 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.760 wasn't wearing the color niggas. Niggas was always like what 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.360 Ice is from sixties? Ice is from a Where's ice 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.800 ices from? From Bloodstone villains? Because they see me over 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.400 there chasing chicks and. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.920 Back then they said that bloods was light skinned and 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.079 darll skin people were crips. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:13.080 That was no, no, no, no, really, really, bloods are 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.880 bloods are brims? Mean, that's the real gang, the real gang. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.520 Where crips in the brims. A cripp refers to you 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.800 is because a brim of first. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.640 To you is blood. Anything that's not a crip is 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.000 a blood so. 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.480 So so everything else, Like if I'm I'm a seven 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.080 four five nine cripp from a trade crip, everything says 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.440 crip at the end, Inglewood Family, that's a blood gang. Pirout, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.679 that's a blood game. They're not pirute bloods. It is 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.199 athn Park boys. That's a blood gang than boys. Yeah, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.560 if you're not a crip, your blood by default, by default, 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.880 because that's where you're from, that's what you are. Well, 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.640 there's there's more crips than bloods, right Cali. But anyway, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.280 so back to this rap music. So I'm in this 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.440 I'm in this world, right, so I have. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.480 To make a music that those people will relate to. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.000 So without claiming a set, because you'll notice, no one 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.439 claimed is set till after ninety two, since till after 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.160 the truth, even Snoop wasn't wearing all that blue. We 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.400 was kind of like, because it was real, you did 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.000 so everybody. I was trying to just kind of like 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.080 let niggas know what you know, Like like I just 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.160 can say, we're gonna let niggas know where we're from. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.680 Because New York was so powerful, we had to say, well, 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.560 look that's great, but this is where we're from, right, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.800 And we had to rap about our life. And uh, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.320 I didn't know I was hot until I got a 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:39.160 call from a from from San Francisco and the Fillmore 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.760 West wanted me to perform up there in the Bay. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.040 And that's not film More Slim Filmore Simmer West is 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:52.840 is the arena venues, oh venue. I was like, you know, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.480 getting I'm going there. I'm going there. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.240 So we get I get to call. They asked me 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.640 what I do is show up there. I'm like, I'm 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.040 not popping in La like that, you know, I'm I'm 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.280 a nigga with a record out. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.520 And then San Diego still considered La. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:09.800 Bay. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.120 That's the Bay, that's a whole nother world. But that's not. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:20.640 That's that's seven hours away. So so I'm like, North Cali. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.600 I'm saying, you're not popping there? Why would you go 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:23.920 to I wasn't popping in l A. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.520 Like you're saying, you know, like how many niggas in 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.000 New York got records out right now? 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.760 But are they popping? You know what I'm saying. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:31.880 So my record was out. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:33.680 I wasn't a ship in l A. I was just 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.800 a nigga trying to make it right. But they wanted 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.360 me up there, so I'm like really, They like, yeah, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.760 this tell us you'll do the show. I sold the 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.080 show out, so they called me that bigg that show 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.280 sold out. I'm like really, So in other words, I 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.880 was hotter in Frisco than I was in my home town. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.480 You knew what a sold out show meant at that. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.480 Oh yeah, they said, no more tickets? They said, would 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.800 you do another show? They said, they said, what you 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.600 doing your back show? I did back to back shows 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.440 and the fill more sold out on one song, six 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.640 in the morning, whatever other bullshit I had to do, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.360 and I was like, Yo, this ship could be really big, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.280 Like this is real. Now I'm not really making no 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.360 money with this. I'm still in the street. I'm making 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.000 money doing other things and stuff, and you know, I'm 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.720 at that point where you know that dilemma that street 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.440 nigga's running too where they want to get. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.520 But I always, I always wanted out of the game. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.760 I didn't I never, I didn't. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.600 Really like it. I just did it as survival. One 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.680 of the reasons I don't drink like I'm an orphan. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.440 I have no mother, I have no father, I have 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:31.000 no sisters. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.200 I read that you was an offhan. I thought I 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.440 thought that was something I guess. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.280 So I always felt liquor or weed or drug would 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.800 compromise my position. It would put me in a position 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.200 that if I hit the ground, there's nobody to come 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.000 get me. Dig So, I just got to stay on 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.480 my toes. Dig So, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm in, I'm in. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.960 The water is full of sharks, and I got to 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.000 stay on my toes. You did so, So that's one 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:57.600 of the reasons. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.440 Just in case you are right right now, Ice, if 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.680 you wanted to a shot of anything, we got your 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:02.840 You got that. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:09.640 Yeah. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:10.159 Yeah, I've been. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.800 I've been like I was a designated driver before there 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:13.560 was a term. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.200 For it, because that's what I'm that's not about to act. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.560 So so you mean, even as a child growing up 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.719 in the gang culture, and I remember, I remember there 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.200 was that, and the West Coast was the people who 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.720 kind of introduced us. A lot of people who credit 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.040 Wu Tang for that, but it was the term Sherm had. 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:33.400 It's a West Coast. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.639 It's a cigarette to Sherm that you put the PCP on. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.320 You never got high, not one, No, I didn't. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.560 I mean I was. I was. I've been contact high 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.920 because I've been in one niggas in studios. But when 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.320 I was younger, this one cat, I remember, I might 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:53.320 have been maybe fifteen or younger, and some guy was like, yo, 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.480 hit the weed, you know, And I'm like, I don't 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.200 want to hit the weed. So you was a bitch 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.040 if you don't hit the weed. I said, well, I'm 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.040 a bitch. Make me hit it right while you tripping. 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.200 While you're tripping right. So now that he I stood 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.600 my ground, the next person tried to get me high. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.879 He go, he don't get high because if he couldn't 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.840 make me do it, no one else Why just became 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.080 the sober cat and the click. Then when I got 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.840 into the real gangster ship, as it got more escalated. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.080 Whenever I would walk into a room and there would 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.120 be a bunch of people. The one person that didn't 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.760 get high. That was the cat. I keep my eye 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.920 you did because I know he probably got I know 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.240 he got that thing on him and he wonders. That's 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:32.880 his job. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:34.440 You know. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.840 If you guys have security, you let your security get high. No, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:39.960 so do you got to think about it like that. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.240 I don't have security. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:47.920 You feel me so now why I I always ask me, baby, 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:48.560 That's why I'm here. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:55.840 I'm gonna be honest. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.800 I I can't wake the highest security for a while. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.080 For years, you just be you like I mean, I 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.000 remember one time I was shooting the movie. I did 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.200 not know what I was doing. I did not know 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:07.880 what I was doing. 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.320 I told you to come somewhere at four thirty. You 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.000 got there at four o'clock and you ain't complaining. You 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:23.119 stood there like was supposed to be here. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.360 Niggas that make that type of music, we know who 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:27.760 is official. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.440 I can listen to you. I can listen to Mob Deep, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.960 I can listen to different records m P. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.240 I love you know. If I'm going. 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.280 Political, I like dead presidents like that President. I know 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.639 who and I can I can we through the phony 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.760 niggas too. I'm like how many bricks you saw? Nigga, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.560 you're only sixteen? Really like that's not a possibility that 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:54.760 happened like that, Like you know how many shot? How many? 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.680 So I kind of like could I was. I'm a fan, 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.160 so that that comes into play. 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.680 And then also, like I say, all I have is 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.159 my word and I'm not see I'm the kind of 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.840 person I have people that work for me. So if 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.200 I can't be on point, how do I expect them 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.399 to be on the point? So I have to I 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.040 just set that example. So I don't like being late. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.080 I like to stand on my word. I mean, you're 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.080 gonna show up blate to a drive by and niggas 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:21.360 say we leaving it six. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.800 Nigga, you guys, you can't be shown up late. So 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:27.520 these numbers are important. 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:28.800 You got to do your numbers. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.080 But as a person who don't smoke and don't get high, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.159 do you take life too serious? 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.639 Do you think you take life too serious? A lot 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.560 of people who do that, not at all. I mean 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.000 I enjoy life. I see it for where it is. 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:41.239 I made it this far. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.920 I'm I'm just a more laid back person. I'm just 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.800 a cool person. You know, I'm not. I don't like 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.399 to brag. I don't talk about myself that like in 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.440 that if you don't ask the question, I won't tell you. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.480 You know, people say, Damn, you're so cool. I'm like, well, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:56.480 how you get named Ice? 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:56.879 Nigga? 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:57.680 Like really, you know? 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.440 Ice is everybody wants to be Ice in the hood. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.159 You know what I'm saying. That's a great name. That's 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:03.080 a very you know. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.600 People are damn, you could be Ice? Can you be? 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.240 You know? So they gave like bitch and Wyan said, nigga, 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.639 you got that name. Niggas can't take that name from you. 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.040 You went there, you can't take that name from me. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.640 So you know, can a nigga name Ice be real 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.640 ag all the time and excited and uptight and ship? 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:21.640 That doesn't work. 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.320 Because you set off in my opinion, when when uh, 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.240 East Coast we had gangster rap, but it wasn't It 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.119 wasn't reality rap. It wasn't you guys had mob style, 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.760 no moms. Something come up before you didn't know, but 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.000 after it okay, this trust me. Every gangster. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:40.280 So here's the thing. 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.520 So you and them so so you when I think 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.760 a West Coast, I don't think a gangster rap. Your 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.120 name is one of the first, if not the first, 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.080 right and and you and you you coined that, so 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.040 did everybody else, kind of gravitated because I believe n 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:56.240 w A came out, okay. 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.480 But the word gangster rap wasn't out with me. 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.440 The word gangster rap came out, yes, because cube and 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.600 straight out of Compton. He says from a gang called 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.879 niggas with attitudes. He didn't say from a group. He 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.880 said from a gang. So he represented his clique as 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:17.200 a gang. And then then the pressed coin gangster rap. 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.960 It didn't have a name until they gave it that name, 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.280 but I was But that's why after they did that, 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.520 I said, well, if it's that gangster rap, then I'm 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.320 the original gang you are. 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:29.359 So that's when it went backwards. Okay, that's now gangs, 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.840 and I'm the old gang. You flipped everybody's wig at 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:34.359 one point. 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.200 At one point we're sitting back and we see this 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:42.000 Bishop don Wall, we see these pimps movie, We see 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:46.600 ice per your ship is slide died and full to 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.680 the side, magnetic. And the way you did it and 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.119 the way you spoke, we knew that you wasn't fronting. 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.560 We knew that you were will and how the pimps 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.919 accepted you. But now it was that the life prior 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:01.640 to your game. 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.159 Again, what thing of it was is I was on 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.080 the streets hustling, so I didn't sell. I tried to 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.399 sell coke once, but then everybody took the money and 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.960 ran off like I gave. I gave it out to 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:15.760 my friends and they all came back short. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.479 So now I am I supposed to kill my friends. 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.719 What I had left, I was just able to make 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.560 the money that I invested back. I said, I can't 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.560 do this no more. But then when I was in 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.879 the arm, every one of them games, everyone no niggas 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:36.199 had stories like I'm like, yo, I'm I gonna niggas 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.840 understand this. You know, you give out the dope to 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.560 your friend and he comes back with a story. But 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.880 I'm like, I can't do this because now I'm supposed 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:46.480 to enforced. 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:47.720 But I can't. It's my money. 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.600 So I got out of that. I tried it. 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:58.760 I had some way exactly invested my money, but it 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.000 didn't work like that. No, I was more. 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.879 We was more basically jewelry store robbers. We was robbing 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.480 jewelry stores, doing things of that nature. But when I 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:08.760 was in the Army, I got connected to a pimp 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.000 named Machel, and Machel I used to go hang out 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.359 at his house and he said, you cut for this game, nigga. 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.280 You got them light eyes. You not too much turned 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.600 on by the No no, no, no, my buddies. My 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:21.640 buddy in the army. 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:28.119 His girlfriend's sister was a hum a prostitute. So so 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.960 when his girlfriend army, Oh no, Hawaii is like open season, 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.840 you know, because you have all that military Hawaii. I 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:36.480 was in the Army. 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:43.479 It was a ranger. 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:55.320 Soer okay, So so my voice Spicer. You know, I 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.159 don't like using names because I don't know where these 0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.679 niggas are at this moment. He might be working for IBM. 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:05.440 I'm but my boy, Spiceer. His girl was her sister. 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:06.960 So I was like, yeah, we're gonna go to this 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.120 party this weekend. But but blind we would go over 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.679 there and it was my man Major's house full of holes. 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:13.800 So he would look at me be like, yo, I 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.560 mean when you mean working prostitutes, you know, working girls 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.560 lawsuits and they were working on the island of Huaihu. 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:25.280 You've got you have navy, you have Navy, you have 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.280 marines there, and you have army, and those guys only 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.000 have a weekend. They don't have a lot of times 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.520 to create relationship. And then you have a lot of 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:34.919 tourists there. 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.600 So by saying the US government sence your holes. 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.960 Well, I'm just saying prostitution is accepted in certain houses. 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.240 To keep it everything, it's always. 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:43.760 Been in the military. 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.200 Yeah, it's a lot of It's a lot of guys 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.680 on that island, right, so kind of like it was 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.440 a good place to get your pippin. So I'm over 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.480 there and homeboy was just like, yo, you cut for 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.520 this and this, that and the third. And I'm like, yeah, 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.439 you know what I'm saying, But I'm in the service. 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.440 And so then when I got home, we was we 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.320 was when we would rob and shit, we had girls. 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.600 We was working plastic. Like these niggas talking about they 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.600 just sliding credit cards. It's an old game. That's an 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.440 old game. Niggas was getting the microfilm and we were 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.480 making the credit cards and we had the military IDs. 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.320 We were printing them and shit, we've been doing that 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.680 ship for years. That's nothing new. This new credit card game. 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.639 Now they got a chip Okay, new game figured that 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.120 one out. Motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass. 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.040 You ain't sliding shipping them, you know how to take 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:28.200 the credit card sticking that. 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.520 So all these niggas is gonna lose their Gucci belts. 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:33.480 But anyway, so I'm in that. 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.080 So we we we would always keep females in our 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.400 click and stuff. So eventually I started reading this Iceberg 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:41.639 slim shit, and I decided I wanted to pimp on 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:42.040 the bitch. 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:42.240 You know. 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.320 So my girls was trying to run, They was trying, 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.280 they were looking for they was trying to escape. I remember, 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.960 I just one chick named Mary, So I'm trying to, 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:50.920 you know, get her out there, like let's go get 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.800 this money and ship like that. And she ran to 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.680 one my partner. It's like, I just pimping on me. 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:55.879 He's pimping like that. 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.760 And then he come, come me the bitch choosing. I'm like, 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.720 she ain't choosing, nigga, you rest haven for hole to 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.879 get away from the pimping I'm trying to put on. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:06.920 But I was close enough. I mean, pimping is not 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.119 very difficult to do. All you just need is a 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.200 girl that's willing to shit and hustle. I wasn't no 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.920 big time pimp like, uh, you know, bishopping them. But 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:20.200 you know, but I mean every other nigga probably donet 0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.639 sent the bitch before. I mean just sending a girl 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.440 to perform the actor prostitution and bring you the money. 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.600 Okay, that's what pimping is, all right. 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.080 So I dabbled in all types of levels of the game, 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.160 but I was no knockdown, drag out pimp with a catalog. 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.439 Let me tell you some very difficult let me tell 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.680 you something. Let me take something I watched. Now, I 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.000 watched a couple of other movies, and for a week 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:44.480 I thought. 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:44.840 I was a pimp. 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.640 I think it's my wife. This story might get shut down. Yeah, 0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:56.399 that's my wife, love it. 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:56.919 She's there. 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.240 But yeah, So what happened was, let me get story. 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.560 I'll heard. Oh I got some great taking pem story. 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:06.919 Bishop don't want comes. 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.840 To the hood lab, gives me my cup and says you, 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.960 we're one of the famous players of the year War. 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.600 So I'm like, I don't know, because I get why 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.280 he's giving me the famous player the year World War. 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.440 But I know I'm not a pimp, like I really 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:25.879 do that. So girls, look, you're sleeping high. And I 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.360 walk into this club and I said, bitch, chew. 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.880 I don't know why I said this, and the bitch said, yeah, 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:32.480 I choose you. 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.320 They all of them pimp Juju, good game, all of 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.640 them kidding me and said, nigga, you don't know what 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:43.680 you're doing. And it's true, but how does that How 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.880 does a person get into pimp? 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.640 I mean, basically, you gotta find a female that's like 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.480 hoose are hose without actually without a pimp. You know, 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.640 every girl knows a girl that thinks that they can 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.920 use that as a method of operating. 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.080 We used to call the strip clip of the indoor. 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:05.280 Track, you know what I'm saying. So it's like they're 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.200 not actually prostitutes, but they're working inside of an element. 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.960 But it's still the anytime you're actually giving somebody some 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:19.400 type of sexual for money that you don't like them, 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.920 you're prostituting yourself. Even a woman who's going out to 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:25.720 dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.520 stuff like that, she's actually prostituting herself. Even in this business, 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.200 sometimes they ask us to do shit that even sexually, 0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.360 and you be like Damn, I feel like I'm giving 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:38.920 up myself for the money, you understand, But I mean, 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.160 I mean, how do you get into any game? You know, 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.000 you desire it, you want it, and then you got 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.520 to find willing participants, you know. So I had these 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.720 girls that were thieves and stuff, and I was trying 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.080 to turn them out into being hoes, but they was 0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:53.520 like they were resisting it. 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:53.840 Shit. 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.320 I mean, I had I had some crazy story. I 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.320 told one story I told in one of the movies. 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:04.280 Was me and my partner Gary Burnette, we uh, we 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.560 knock some bra So they was hos from up North 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:06.960 and stuff. 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.680 So we got on our ship and we in there. 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.520 Pimp took them up in the Bay Area. 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.240 But these bitches was real prostitutes, right, so we want 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.360 to be pimps. Were trying to get out, and well 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:23.200 we figured that out, so we put yeah. So we 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.520 sent the broad so we like, so Gary tent to 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.880 brough to the casino. He riding behind her in the 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.680 car trying to watch the bitch, and the dude in 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.080 the car sees it starts whooping the bitch ass like 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.920 you got a nigga following me through her out the 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:37.240 out the motherfucking car. 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.120 She getting the car, like, nigga, how long have you 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:39.720 been doing this? 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:40.680 Like real? 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:41.320 I don't know. 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.600 So that night they get back to the hotel, niggas 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.480 go to sleep. They wake up the next day stole 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:50.600 his car. See the hose. The hose was smarter than 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:54.080 the players in that situation. So pipping is difficult. And 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.560 and I don't like a lot of stuff that I've 0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.560 been through in my life. I don't promote it has 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.680 something to do. I just say it was something that 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.160 I've been through. I'm not able to promote anything all. 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.360 All crime and all hustles are negative at the base 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.080 of them, you know. But you know, at the moment 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:16.160 you ever see Fargo, well, I quote that line, it 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.280 seemed like the right thing to do at the time. 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:24.120 You know, in my circumstances what was around me drug dealers, killers, gangsters. 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.600 I thought, well, ship, since I'm flying, I got long hair, 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.280 maybe I should be fucking with these girls. But I 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.360 didn't make no fortune off of that. I made most 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.680 of my money Robin Jury's stores, that Rob jew st 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.880 That's what we did. An occasional bank. But that's what 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.840 that's what my click is. Occasional bank get to. 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:55.480 Now. 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.000 I heard a story, Oh, you and ben Zeno having conflict. 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.480 Yeah, be Xeno actually being on the West coast, and 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.840 ben Zeno's described it as you having two hundred different 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.120 gang members with you. 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.520 He said you could have actually killed him there. 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.640 Yeah, and you walked over now, you walked over to you. Yes, 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.920 the thing of it is killing people is not that simple. 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.120 I mean, do you carry that with you forever? So 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.080 you can't just you know a lot of times, you 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:26.760 know it was a dispatching nigga and you just choose 0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.360 not to do you want to sleep with that on 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:28.760 your head. 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:29.600 That's not my thing. 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.240 You know. I'll protect myself, but I'm not I'm not 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.560 going to attack a person. So what happened was back 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.320 during the cop killer days. I said both had cop 0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.240 killer songs. Recorrect, But we were both on Warner Brothers. 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.240 But he was with a group called Marco Might. So 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.600 what happened was when I pulled out for Warner Brothers 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.360 because the president was after me, and shit got hot 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.720 and I ended up pomp and pulling. The Source magazine 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.920 came down and said Ice is a coward. He gave 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.000 in I'm like, how am I character the president of 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:02.000 the United States is after me. 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:02.920 This is real ship. 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.840 Wait wait wait, wait wait talking about what you just 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.080 said over the talk about so you just said, wait 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.560 them you just said the cop killer record. 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:13.320 Yeah, got hot. 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:14.960 And then and then the. 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:19.360 President Bush Bush, son of a Bush, was the son 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.680 of a Bush? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Bush was on 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.720 my ass and so was dan Quail. And they said 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:32.280 they was after me. They was like, they was, yeah, 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:36.960 they wanted my head. They Ali North wanted to try 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.520 me for sedition, which is punishable by death. 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:40.959 They was on my bumper. 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.680 Yeah, they was on my bumper for this song cock Killers. 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.160 This was a major situation. So you know, we pulled 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:52.200 the record off a warner and all the rap niggas 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.920 had something to say about it, like, oh niggas you know, 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.080 giving in now. Chuck Deese stood his ground, said, look, 0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.880 if y'all ain't in the war, you shouldn't come in 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.720 on the battles. You don't know what's going on. This 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.720 ship is real. Real secret service pulled my daughter out 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.239 of school and chaskeer was I connected to paramilitary organ 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.759 They wanted to see if I was really a threat. See, 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.000 this is nori. This is the problem. When the president 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.600 says your name, the deepest background check of your life 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.360 happens instantly. They know everything from your shoe side to 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:23.560 your mother's blood type. 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.120 Why because this next question could be. 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.560 What do we know about him? They can't be he's 0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.400 a rapper. They like, this is this, this is this, 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.400 this is this, this is it. It happens instantly, So 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.400 when that happens to you, you feel it. It's a 0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.960 long story short. I'm going through this bullshit. So Rs 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.160 Benzeno and them come out and make some statement. Your 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.759 ice tease a sucker because he pulled and because he 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.960 pulled that car pulled the record. I pulled the record. 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.600 Cop Killer was on the first body Count album. Okay, 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.839 I pulled cop Killer off and put a record called 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.560 Freedom of Speech. I did it because I didn't want 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.560 them to pigeonhole me. And in my career right there, 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:04.919 I got a lot of other shit. 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.799 I need to say. It's not just about this one song. 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.919 They were trying to take a nigga out New jack 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.160 City two didn't happen because of that record. All kinds 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:13.560 of shit. 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:18.040 WHOA dude? When I say it was on my shit, whoa? 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.920 It was like you said, it was bigger than rap. 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:27.680 So Benzino or whoever whatever spokesperson made this comment, Well, 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:28.600 you know I was. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:29.120 I was. 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.200 I was under siege at that point. I didn't need 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.400 no rap niggas popping off like this nigga is that? 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:36.960 And the third I'm like, nigga don't really even know 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.880 what's going on right. So of course niggas in my circle, 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.879 we knew who our enemies were are. We always keep 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.960 niggas abreasto who's out there. So they popped up on 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.000 our charts like okay, these niggas areso's popping off about 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:55.040 ice this niggas popping you know, we know who's you know, 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.960 who might not be a friend. So we were at 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:03.840 an event and uh, there they were and there I was, 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.439 and niggas seen them before me. Niggas like, yo, ain't 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:11.480 thatt them niggas and uh I want pre internet. Yeah, 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.879 and he saw two hundred niggas. I mean, I don't 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.040 know how many niggas I had, but I was, I 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.279 had the whole West coast with me, you know what 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.839 I'm saying. He said, I had the whole West coast 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.400 with me. So I just walked up on him I'm like, yo, man, 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.400 whatever you niggas think I said, it did all this 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.960 robbers uncalled for Man, I did what I had to 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.680 do and it didn't affect y'all. Just all it is. 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.280 Yeah, well and they kind of like renigged. 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.320 Yeah, yeah, we was mad, we was hot. It was 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:37.880 an interview. 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.799 There was really no beef. It was just a missing communication. 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:42.160 He said. 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.200 It was a miscommunicator. How to speak, and that's what 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.560 real men do. That's what real men do. 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.880 So you know that was it, But I won't but 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.440 I want you to describe this cop Killer record because 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:58.000 you single handedly made the world. 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.200 Pay attention to rap by this cop Killer record. Now, 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.759 it wasn't now. 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:07.160 Now it's a record that these young brothers would love 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:07.760 to praise. 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:08.880 But what made what? 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:09.080 What? 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:09.320 What? 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:09.840 What? 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.160 What made you even think about make a great quill record. 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.080 We were in the studio making you know, body count, 0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.279 and uh I was singing a song by a group 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:20.359 called the Talking Head. 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.200 It's called psycho Killer Psychical Killer C. 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.560 So I'm singing that and my drummer, beat Master v 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.719 rest In Peace goes, we need a cop killer right now? 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:39.759 What you ain't had no police No, we had a 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.879 police people. This is free Rodney King. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.520 You know, we know what the cops is doing before Rodney. Yeah. 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.160 So my nigga's like, yo, you know, Vicker's right there 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.000 on the front line. So he like, yo, man, we 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.040 need a cop killer. You know. The cops rolled up 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.479 on such and such, they shot him, They dragged his baby, 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.600 mom's you know, this Dulo ship. And so I started 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.400 thinking about it, and I said, yeah, what if somebody 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.960 snapped and this went on one after the cops based 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.200 on police brutality. And that's the hook is cop killer 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.480 is better you than me? Cop killer. Fuck police brutality. 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:18.400 Cop killer. I know your family's grieving. Fuck them, cop killer. 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.680 Tonight we get even. And so it was more about 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:26.200 this guy who lost his mind based around police brutality, 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.360 which just recently happened. Now people actually have started taking 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.239 off on the cops. It took a little while, but 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.520 I predicted it. I wasn't promoting it. I was singing 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.640 the third you know, the first person. I become different 0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.000 people in my records. That's just part of the art. 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.400 You know. I could sing. It's like if I was 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.360 a heroin addict and I never been on it, but 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.160 I can sing and act like it and give you 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:50.520 an imagery of it. 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:58.680 You did so now, But that scrutiny it started from 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.960 the president. The President's started with. 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:05.560 The Fraternal Order of Police out of Dallas Austin, Texas. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.200 They came after me because. 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.839 During this no they just said that Warner Brothers put 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:16.440 out this inflammatory record and they should be banned and boycotted. 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.000 And then Charlton Hesson came out and they just went 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.560 on one. Because of the time, the cops were under 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.960 siege for doing the same shit they doing now. This 0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.000 was back then, so the best way to take the 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.920 heat off them is to attack somebody else. So they 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.080 picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing. They 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.879 picked me as a target and so they came down like, dude, 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.880 I'm sitting at the house, let me date myself. We 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.960 were playing Techno Bowl. Rem me that. So I'm playing 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.960 Techno Bowl and Nigga comes one of my homies, like Yo, 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.720 Ice is on TV right now the President is talking 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:50.080 shit about you. 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.200 Were like, what yo really? 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.880 For real? Were like, we changed the channels and it's 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.040 Dan Quail the Vice President and Ice tea Niggas. It 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:01.359 was like that you ever did want of them old 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:08.160 shits like oh shit, oh shit, like oh like we knew. 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:13.400 This was big, and then it just started to happen. 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:14.640 You know, you could feel them. 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.080 You know that I got tax started it three times 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.719 into two year period. I had ice cream trucks sitting 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.200 in front of my house in the middle of the winter, 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.560 you know, because they had to really figure out was 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.600 I trying to call people to arms, which I wasn't. 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.279 It was just a record. It was just a protest song. 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.200 So you know, I lived through that and I found 0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.359 out who my friends were. You know, they don't care 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.640 about hip hop. Hip Hop can back you, but when 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:45.040 hip hop backs you, hip hop is one big nigga. 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.759 Just it's just one nigga. I don't give a fuck 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.520 how many rappers come to your aid. That's just one nigga. 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:53.759 You need someone outside of hip hop to back if 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.200 you get in trouble. All the rap could band together. 0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:02.200 We are all just one nigga that you need. 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.520 You need. Maybe Quincy Jones come out. You know who's not. 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:15.040 Considered a nigga you know something, but yeah, might still 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:22.040 be considered But no, that's what they'll do when he 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:23.920 if he came after saying that, well, you know, he's 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:28.120 a rapper, and they'll throw him in there with Yeah, yeah, 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:31.879 you need someone outside, you know, Martin Scorsese, you're someone 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:32.560 to coming. 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.680 Back Tarantino in the back. He's a nigga. 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:42.800 He went up against the college, someone who's unexpected to 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.640 back you. So anyway, I took the heat, and you know, 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:47.839 I wrote it out like you know, I didn't bring 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.359 anybody else into it. I didn't say, hey, this other 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.560 rap group, of this rock group. I just handled it 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.480 myself the way I've been. You know, I was raised 0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:00.160 by geez and I still adhere to that code. You know, 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.920 that's your drama. You deal with it. You did, so 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:03.680 I dealt with it. 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.480 And you know, and if it wasn't because I mean 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.080 it was you, then Uncle Luke. 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.600 Yeah, because if you first, then Uncle Luke, right, and 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:15.600 Uncle Luke then death Row, then death bro the w A. 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:17.799 He was the first. 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:23.239 But what I'm saying the leaves right right, Yeah, it 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:28.440 was they got they got the president was fb. 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.279 F B. I was yah. But then they dropped death 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.480 Row with Ted Turner because they were concerned it was 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:37.760 it was a ripple effect. 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.839 Warwick was involved and all these people and Lauris talking, 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:43.200 let me. 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:43.960 Give you a jewel. 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.759 Though it's not hip hop that they were afraid of. 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.560 They were afraid the fact that white kids were getting 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.360 this information. It's like, as long as you sing to 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.319 the hood, no one really cares because they already say 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:59.279 we won, big nigga. But once we express it and 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.719 they see their little daughters is walking around for the 0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.840 police and cock killer, and then now you're infecting the 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.440 rest of the world, and that's when you become a threat. 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.960 So that's when when they saw me have you know, 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.000 thousands of white kids yelling the police with me, they 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.319 were like, we gotta deal with this cat, right because 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.160 he's infected. That's why one of my alms was called 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.359 home invasion, because it was me saying, you know, we've 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.399 invaded your kids. You know we're in there. 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:31.640 You've got a different cops And now that you play one, yeah, 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.239 I'm going there, Charlie, I got I got mention it 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:34.719 to my man. 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.280 Let's say that's a great interview. Let's say Drake Champs 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:45.120 interview questions. You know you're doing interview and the niggas 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:49.840 and you dumb questions, you like, how long. 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.919 You've been in the NBA. What are you talking about 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:52.399 it now? 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:57.960 The cop Killer one of my favorite records of all time. 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.200 Still to this days, I still want to create I 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.879 actually think I created this record over but I didn't 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:05.680 do it justice you do it. 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:07.279 I am mon. 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.719 If y'all know the record, If you're real hip hop, 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.520 I'm gonna open another bottle. We already got bottles open. 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.160 Come over here, come over, youre the bar, but relax. 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:22.040 Relax, that's right there. I want everybody, if you real 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.080 hip hop, to sing along, help me sing along. 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:24.399 Ice. 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:33.479 I am a night man, walking psychopath talking walking yo. 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:36.120 Yo. 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.000 From when what was the movie? Let me let me 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.400 run it before it was that? Was that inspire? Or 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:43.759 before the movie? Did you already know? 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:43.880 You? 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.239 Let me take it to where we was going live 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.719 to where I was going. I hadn't heard of California 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:51.279 at this time. 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.600 What yeah, it was Colors. Can you google it has 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:58.279 someone to be that's gonna be like ninety two. It's 0:44:58.320 --> 0:44:59.880 ninety two. I think it's you got. 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:04.160 But I had heard of California. We had we had, 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:10.600 we had, we had you know, we're all visions of California. 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.800 But this is the first time in my opinion. This 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:20.960 is the original California Love Colors, And when. 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.759 I heard that, when I sink the movie, I had 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.319 no idea that was popping off, right, What. 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.200 The fuck was going on on the West Coast? All 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.239 I used to see was beaches, right. 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:38.120 I had no idea even get killed in California until Colors, 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:39.120 Like I had. 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.520 I knew about cock Killer, but I was just like 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.880 I didn't know. Yeah, but Colors was before Colors. Was 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:49.600 Colors before Yeah Colors. 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.160 What happened with Colors was they was doing this movie 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:56.839 called Colors. Dennis Hopper was directing it, and apparently they 0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.160 it was going to be a Warner Brothers film, and 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.440 due to the fact it was Warner Brothers film, I 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.719 was the first rapper signed to Warner Brothers, so they're gonna, 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.040 of course look at my music first. So they had 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.240 they wanted to use the song I did called Squeeze 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.600 the Trigger off my first album, and. 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:13.759 But the movie was already done. 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.520 You got a movie still, so they got they got 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.800 They got this scene with Don Chietle in it, you 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:25.279 know rocket, he was listening to my song. So I'm like, well, 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:26.600 let me if you want to if you want to 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.560 use my song. Let me see the movie. 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:30.839 That's just right accent. Damn. 0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.759 So I got to see the movie. So I'm looking 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.439 at the movie. I'm like, Okay, there's some wrong shit 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.800 in it because at the time the Blacks wasn't fighting 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.240 the Mexicans, you know, there was some other stuff. 0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:41.840 But I'm like, it still kind of gives. 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:43.920 You an overall. You know, the most real ship is 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:47.919 when you see the tank in the county with thirty 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.320 eight hundred and the Crips and the Bloods across with 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.799 the fence. Yeah, that was a powerful yeah, but they 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.080 never let that man niggas out at the same time. 0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.319 But wait, wait, wait, scene again. 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.600 There's where you see them coming at the crypt module 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:04.640 and you see the crypt module on one side and 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.239 the Blood module on Yeah, okay, okay, and they're in 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:11.120 that Yeah. Well, no, they never let that many people out. 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.320 And also, in jail, you don't wear all the colors 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.640 like that. Oh you know, so they let them in jail. 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.080 You're in a uniform by this point, but they showed 0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.760 it like that to kind of you know. So I'm 0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.120 sitting there so I'm like, I'm not gonna quicktiupe that out. 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.600 I'm happy they're making the movie now. When they wanted 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.759 to do the movie, first they said, let's shoot it 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:33.400 in Chicago, and then Dennis Hopperson, let's shot it in La. 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.400 The people said, we have gangs in LA that oh, 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.600 so it would have been about Chicago. Well, they didn't. 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.560 They wanted to make a movie about gangs, but they 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.279 didn't know there were gangs in LA. That year, three 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.000 hundred and sixty kids had died, almost one a day 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.960 in LA, but no one even it wasn't spoken. It's 0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.239 like black lives matter, No one talks about us. We 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:56.040 were just getting killed. So so I'm like, okay. So 0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.680 I watched the movie, so I said, do they have 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.200 a title song? And they had a song, and if 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.320 you want to track the movement, get the color soundtrack. 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.440 B side last record is a song by Rick James 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:12.560 called Colors. It's wack. It's like Rick James, look at 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:17.279 all these colors, you know, Rick James out. So I'm like, nah, 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.920 I can't fuck. So I told Africa Islam, who was 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.760 producing me at the time, I said, let's make a record. 0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.000 I said, I know this gang ship like the back 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:26.960 of my hand. I mean, let's take him in the 0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:28.240 brain of a gang banger. 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.759 So at the time I was vibing here's another something 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:31.320 you never know. 0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:36.600 I was vibing off for Kings Sons record Mythological mytho logical, 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.960 my myth, the myth a lot. Remember, he comes on 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.680 when I get ill, it's a reason because it's the season. 0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:49.239 Why I am a nightmare walking psychopath talking that. 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:54.200 I think, rap. 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.279 You're influencing each other. You're not biting because you never knew. 0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.840 But I'm I'm like, yo, I'm coming in like King's 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.200 son because he said when I get ill, it's a 0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.400 reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Front. 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:08.320 You know, I like that. 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:09.320 Shit is hard. 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.880 If I just came in, I am a nightmare walk 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:18.000 in psycho bath talk, same shit. So I wrote the song, 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.320 did the video. It was so big people thought I 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.040 was in the movie. People walking to me like, y'all 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:23.960 saw you in color. 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.440 In Colors. Yeah, not in the movie. And I saw 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.600 the movie so many times. But now that movie the 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:32.440 song might be bigger. 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:37.719 That movie was single handley the introduction to California lifestyle 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:38.320 and put. 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.360 Me in the game. Because all my other records I 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.080 was still bubbling, but that was a national hit. I 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.000 mean that crossed all and that, and everybody wanted to 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:48.319 see the guy that made color. 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:50.640 So I went out on the Dope Jam tour. 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.840 With Eric B and Rock Kim, Dougie Fresh, CuMo d 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:59.520 bizmarcky uh and and I was out there with them. 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:00.799 I was on the West West coast. 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:02.319 Have been crazy. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:04.839 We performed that song and that we shut him down. 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.799 And you know, it's funny because Eric B and them 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:08.759 was kind of like, you know, l a niggas. They 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:10.920 had that New York ship going and they you know, 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:16.080 they had to change and Supreme Uh Mathematics screaming great 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:20.720 magnetic was out of it from the sept comes of Brooklyn. 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.600 So we got we My intel had told me, you know, 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.319 I've got my own intel. I'm like the CIA that like, okay, 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.120 he's the one. Watch him, he's a shooter. 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.359 We watch him. Who are these niggas. I don't walk 0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.279 in there. I don't walk I know. 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.879 What's going on. So they was like, okay, this one's live. 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.279 And there's one right there and he's cool. So they 0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.640 was looking at us. They had no idea who we were. 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:40.920 And we showed up. 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.960 They was like, oh, these are l A gang members, 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:45.760 like this is crazy. 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.239 We had all the we had just the same ship 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:50.200 they had, but the West Coast version of it. And 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.360 when I hit the scene, I came out and I 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:56.920 opened with Colors on the tour and this ship rocked 0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:57.719 like I just. 0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.279 Came out that that should give you, do you? 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:03.439 And stadium rage and all of a sudden, car rests 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:04.520 once start talking to me. 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:05.560 Everybody on the. 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.080 Door realized that I was pulling my weight out of here, 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.520 and we all became close friends where I came and 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.200 I are friends today, but they re sized me up 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:14.799 about the gate. 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:19.200 No, but did you understand that Colors in a way 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.640 like right now you can look at you going to 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.040 the Harlem and I'm sure because you live in New 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.680 York for real, right Like you're not a fake guy 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:29.760 who just visits New York, New York Jersey. You around, 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:31.600 You've been around places i'd be at. 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:35.000 I'm like dad over that. Yeah, So did you ever 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.880 think that from Colors. 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.279 That New York would be gang banging the way New 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.000 York is? I still don't truly understand it. Like I 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.680 roll with Tretch a lot right in tresh he blood 0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.080 it's over in Jersey with the bloods. But you know, 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:52.960 I can't really get it, totally understand it. But one 0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:56.319 thing I do understand is respect a nigga with a gun. 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:07.759 You know. You know, I'm gonna walk up to a 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.839 nigga say, well, you a fake gang banger. You're like, yeah, 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:10.720 this is a fake bullet. 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:12.800 Take this, you know. 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:14.120 So I don't know. 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.880 You know, when you're from LA and you hear guys 0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.640 in other cities saying they're Hoover crips, but they never 0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.720 seen the street, or they're you know, you know whatever, 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.920 you know, their sixties, but they're from Florida. 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.360 So I'm like, how is that possible? 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:32.319 Sixties is the street, and the sixties all of them 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.520 are thirties of the street. The forties are a street 0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:37.760 h S eighty third Street. It's usually the hottest street 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.399 in that ten block radius. Is the street that gets 0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:44.360 named like one eleven's twelve. Oh So so you know, 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:49.280 I learned, but I know how it happened. What happened 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.280 was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped 0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:56.360 coming through Florida, it started to come through Mexico. I 0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:57.920 shouldn't even tell this story. 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:03.399 Nobody listens to us US game and this is old game. 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:07.839 But what happened was the coke became less expensive than California, 0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:11.240 and as it moved across the country, it became instantly 0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:12.360 like a key with double. 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.839 So everybody in LA was trying to put the game 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:16.439 on the road. 0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:20.040 So you got a cousin in Seattle, right, So you 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.080 send a couple of homies up to Seattle, and you say, okay, 0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.359 at this point, y'all niggas playboy gangster crips because that's 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.040 what set me from And these niggas are from Seattle 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:31.560 and they don't really know about it. But then there's 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.120 some real lifeboat and we take these niggas and get 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.440 them khakis and shit like that. Then maybe you might 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.320 send a nigga from LA to put some work in. 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.800 They ain't never seen violence like that before. You know, 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.200 they turned out and they move and wait, and this 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.880 happens all over the country. Niggas coming from Saint Louis. 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:50.480 So there's somebody from LA that took that gang out there. 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:55.000 Now are they respected in LA well to an extent, 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:58.400 But you can't come I don't care if you're from whatever, 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:01.000 Wyoming or whatever. And you come to LA and you 0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.719 actually in Hoover's hood and you claiming Hoover you're gonna 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.960 bow down that street, that actual street. The nigga's on 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:14.640 that block, that's the g's So you know, I was 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:17.160 up in Harlem and I met some bloods, right, So 0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.080 I was like, yeah, a nigga I used to blood 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:21.920 some I'm like like that. I said, okay, like that 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.239 he said you was the crypt right, and they're like yes, 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.800 it was cool. I'm like, well, you ain't cool with me, 0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.839 you know, like if your nigga's really banging, right, I said, well, 0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.719 gang banging is the act of murder. So then they 0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:34.919 was like they was like, I said so much, said 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:36.920 show me a blood sign. So they did like this. 0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:40.120 I was like, turn it upside down. I said that's 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:43.040 a blood sign too. They were excited. They were like, yeah, 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:48.320 that's a pirute. Okb okay, so he does a bad 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:50.600 I just turned it upside I said that's a blood sign. 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:54.880 Like I'm giving him gang tutoring. They were like thank you. 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:59.960 Like I was like, man, but nobody that comes from 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:03.799 that wants it to happen. The gang thing happened when 0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.440 we were young kids was out there, we were protecting 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.879 the neighborhood, and it got taken out of control once 0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.720 the drugs came in. Once the drugs came in, it's 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:15.239 split into little sets. So now cryps is fighting crips. 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.080 Blood niggas don't care what color. 0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.360 So you're saying back then, crips wasn't fighting Chris because 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:21.759 it seems like crips always. 0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:24.000 Have beeper Crypt No no, no, no no no. 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.080 If you was a crypt, was a cry But now 0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:30.279 it's sets. The sets just splintered. They splintered. So say, 0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:32.680 for instance, we all won Crypt set and then you 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.640 got the sack and you, like nigga, we the nor 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:38.880 re crypts now us for this splinter And that's what happened, he. 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:40.640 Said, because the price of the drugs went down, like 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.640 when Escobar went down and it all started going through Mexico. 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:49.160 That greed, it's creedy. It's just greed. It's like changing trading. 0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.239 Yeah yeah, the trade came to La, but greed, greed, 0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:52.800 it's just you. 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.040 He's the boss. You start counting his money. 0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.839 As soon as the side nigga starts counting the bosses money, 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.080 you have the potential or deceit anything. It happened, so 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:04.399 you always telling me, man, nor he's making a little 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:05.319 bit too much money. 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:07.319 Why are you counting the boss's money? 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:09.320 Man? Why are you worrying about what he's making? And 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.800 eventually you're gonna say, man, let's go this way. And 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:14.400 that happens in any type of. 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:18.040 Organization, gang culture. Let me ask you a question, and 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:21.560 gang culture, can there ever be one leader or no? 0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.360 Yeah, the leader of each set. I rolled with a 0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:28.640 dude named Tony Bogart who was the leader of Imperial 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:29.479 Courts of the PJ. 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.400 Watts Crips, which is a whole project. 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:33.919 And I seen him walk into a like a wreck 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.640 room a room, and I've seen a hundred niggas stand 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.880 up and like when he and get quiet until he 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.640 came in and they sat down. I'm like, yo, you 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:44.879 know that was a g but they killed him. Wow, 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:48.440 you know he's gone. I mean, you know, the thing 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:52.720 about gang membership, the thing about crime period is everyone 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:56.319 is a liar, a cheater, a thief, a double. I mean, 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.920 you're dealing with a group of bandits, so anything can 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:03.120 fucking happen. You know, you hope there's loyalty inside of it, 0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:04.400 but you're dealing. 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:05.240 A bunch of murderers. 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:08.760 Everyone is cold blooded, you know, to your your idea 0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.080 is to get the fuck out of there as soon 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.320 as possible. You know. That's why I'm square as a 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.560 pool table twice as green. I wouldn't still a nickel 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:18.640 off the mantlepiece. Man, I'm not really, I'm not really, 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:21.800 you know. I'm fortunate I live through it, but it's 0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:23.560 not what I'm about no more. I don't want to 0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:24.520 live like that. Man. 0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:25.440 That's just crazy. 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:30.600 Now, Ice, you survive the h the scrutiny from the 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:31.520 cop killer record? 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:32.640 You you you? 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:36.280 You pull out the Colors records. Color records bring you everywhere? 0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.960 Now where is Ice at when he hears n w 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.240 A the ball Plice? 0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:44.600 Well, you remember where us that? When you well, I 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.840 knew you know, I knew n w A because n 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:48.200 w A used to open for me. 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:49.040 We used to go out. 0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:54.360 Yeah, you just said that, man, nonchalotly. I had to 0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:55.520 be around Colors too as well. 0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.840 You're gonna do Cube take out nw A. We would 0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:03.800 all tour together, would be NWA iced t DC. And 0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:05.960 then when Easy put out his record, they split it 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.720 and they tried to, you know, do Easy with another group, 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.320 and we would all go all over the place together. 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.160 We used to fight together. We used to get out 0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:15.240 there and get it gone because we were West Coast, 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:17.560 you know, Cuban Mayor like brothers. 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:21.000 I love Cube like we were close. I used to 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:22.240 when they. 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.480 Came out with fuck the Police. We was out there rapping. 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:26.560 We was out there rapping, and they hit him in 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.680 the head with that, I'm like, oh shit. But see, 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.440 I always knew the first time you heard it was 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.360 on tour though, yeah, because Easy and them were playing 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.160 it before they dropped it. So I heard it on 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.200 the radio. I'm like, oh, y'all niggas about to go there. 0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:41.480 Cause I used to say I used to say fuck 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.720 the police on my shows, right, So I don't When 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:46.840 I would before I would do six in the morning, 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:49.760 I would go out and I would say, Yo, the 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:53.360 police told me I can't do this song right. And 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.440 then I would like, get the audience pipped up, and 0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.200 I was like, yo, I say fuck the police, and 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.560 the crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went 0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:03.160 off in Easy's head, like I have something right here. 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:03.600 I say that. 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.160 But I used to say, I say I had an echo. 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:07.360 I said, my name is iced T. 0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:11.080 I gotta rep like a killer killer. No one gets Wilder, 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:14.520 no one gets illa Illa. I don't get high, I 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:18.000 don't drink Miller Miller. But if your girl's empty, I'm 0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.960 sure I can fill it filler. I make stupid ass 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:24.520 records because I just don't care. Motherfuckers can't even play 0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.200 my ship on the air. But y'all know you like it, 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.640 you say you want more, because every time I leave 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.800 the crib to go to the store, I hear six 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:44.480 in the morning police at my door. I was with 0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:48.120 them at the time, and you know, it was it was. 0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:51.640 It was a movement, and I always knew and to me, honestly, 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:56.080 nw A I needed n w A because I was 0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:59.960 by myself and to have four more cats. 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:03.120 Roll yeah, yeah, yeah. We weren't enemies. 1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:05.920 So it's like, and you know now, they would always 1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:08.320 hit harder than me because I'm one rapper versus a 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.360 gang of motherfuckers rapping, and it sounds better when people 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:12.760 are spitting on top of each other. 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.440 But and then they wrote some incredible records. Then they 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:17.080 had Jack No Drag the neighborhood. 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:21.000 No No, they're from different areas, Cubans from one hundred 1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:24.640 and twentieth Street. I'm from the forties and like so 1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:28.640 I knew dub cub C used to be beat box 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:33.040 for Clientele who was in the Wrecking gl So, but 1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.200 that's the thing. LA is a small tree, like you 1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:38.240 guys are hip hop Oh here is a big tree. 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:43.520 Everything in LA is either NWA and who they became, 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:47.400 the syndicate, my crew and who they became, which included 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:52.360 Cyprus Hill which crew's ever last when and in Latin 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.000 them or a few groups that were on Delicious Vinyl, 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.520 which was Tone Lok and Young MC. 1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.880 So if there's beef in LA, you could call me 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:04.680 Q Snoop, you know, and shut. 1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:08.000 It down because there's only it's everyone that comes up 1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:10.880 from under us. So that's why the only time there 1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:13.240 was ever bee from the West Coast was family feud 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:15.720 when they fought and everybody just had to step back 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.560 because How'm gonna get between Easy and Q when I know, 1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:20.200 you know, it's a family fuse. 1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:24.000 So when Fuck Devolice came out, did you know exactly 1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:25.400 what they was gonna go through at that? 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:28.360 I had no idea because because you were the first, 1:01:28.520 --> 1:01:30.800 we were hardcore wrapped though they weren't really fucking with 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:32.520 us like that. I didn't have no idea that the 1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:35.560 police would intervene. I had no idea they were actually 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:39.720 gone through the body counting yet. Yeah, we were going 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:46.800 through cursing ship. None came out first. Yeah, yeah, you know, 1:01:46.880 --> 1:01:49.439 I got my history fucked. Yeah. I thought cop Killer 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:51.480 came off. No, no, no, cock Killer didn't come out 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:54.160 to Uh. Body count didn't come out to the OG 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:57.320 album came out, So that was later. But they did 1:01:57.360 --> 1:02:00.800 it first, and we were already getting in Trump for cursing. 1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:08.880 This is how bullshit shows at shows. Remember this, If 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:13.640 you curse, we're gonna arrest you. That was you can't curse. 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:16.080 So they would show up at the shows and show 1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:17.960 us that ship, and then what we would do is 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:19.640 we would do the show and the cops would be 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:21.800 on the side, and they used to shut the lights 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:24.240 off and I would jump off into the pit and 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:27.480 run out the side, so we would run from the 1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:29.160 cops and then we would get the tour bus and 1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:29.760 we would. 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:32.400 Get to the next state. He really paved the way 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:32.840 for us. 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:36.960 That's just one of the total perspectives when a person 1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:40.240 says it like that. Because Luke said it, and I 1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:42.640 thought Luke was being bad, I didn't know Luke was 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:43.560 being bad for cursing. 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:49.040 I thought Luke was being bad for being vulgar and 1:02:49.120 --> 1:02:51.320 the Bible belt when you're down there, Oh yeah, that's 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:51.840 that's yeah. 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:53.800 They were running that kind of still, like that. 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:55.959 They would show up at the show with a piece 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.240 of paper that says, if you curse, we will shut 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:01.640 the show. That wow, And and that was my cue 1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:04.400 to go harder, like, yo, fuck that. You know what 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:06.320 I'm saying, We're gonna come out here. And I would 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:09.120 always say the police warn me, and you know, that 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:11.640 just got the shit even more crazy and stuff like that. 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:16.520 But but my whole thing was I had already been 1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:20.200 breaking the law, right so so whatever this charge was 1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:20.880 was nothing. 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:24.200 I was like, compared to what I was doing. I'm 1:03:24.200 --> 1:03:27.600 gonna go to Jeniffer talking kids, my motherfucking ass, let's go, 1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:30.080 you know. And I had money, and I'm like, we'll bail. 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:32.440 I mean, I knew it was a petty charge, so 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:35.400 I'm like, you know, So that that was that. We 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:37.880 used to run from the police a lot. I remember, 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:40.040 we had a big ass fight. We had. We had 1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:42.880 lots of fights out there on the road because when 1:03:42.880 --> 1:03:45.440 we would come to towns. They would they want to 1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:48.880 test you. Remember the big nagus of you. Easy come here, Easy, 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:51.800 like they wanted to see Easy, Like you know, so 1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:54.160 Easy was small, so he wouldn't want to really just 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:56.760 I'm always like, take me to your leader type nigga. 1:03:57.000 --> 1:03:58.040 I'm six foot tall. 1:03:58.120 --> 1:04:00.880 I'm like, let's go. We can go a couple up 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:04.360 in this bitch, let's go. So I never really felt 1:04:05.400 --> 1:04:07.600 I had no problem with street niggas. When I got 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:09.400 to Detroit, I'm like, take me to your leader. Let 1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:11.920 me see who the toughest nigga is. I'll befriend him, 1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:14.960 and I'm good. I'm not here. 1:04:15.040 --> 1:04:17.520 I'm here to entertain you anyway. I'm not your enemy. 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:19.640 I'm not here to sell your drugs, to take your block, 1:04:20.080 --> 1:04:22.080 which you need some backsage passes? 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:24.840 Is he the ball came up? Now we're good. Yeah, 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:26.920 we good, nig You're good. Now I got security. 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:27.680 You know. 1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:30.000 That's how I played it everywhere. 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:31.920 And it's like quick said, Quick said, everywhere is like calm. 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.800 To remember the joint. Yeah that's what if you're smart, 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:36.480 if you know, I mean the same thing you do 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:37.040 in prison. 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:40.520 Like shit, I was just about to say that's so 1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:43.120 before we get into all that. How did ice t 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:44.320 wind up in the Army. 1:04:45.160 --> 1:04:47.000 I got in the army because when I was in 1:04:47.160 --> 1:04:50.960 high school, I got my girlfriend pregnant. I was I 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:55.000 just got out of high school and I graduated early. 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:58.000 I was an a student. I was on the honor roll, 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:00.960 all that shit. I graduated twenty we report card. I 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:03.320 was out. I had all my credits, and I started 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.080 trade technical college. I wanted to do by. I can 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:08.320 paint cars, I can do all kinds of body and 1:05:08.400 --> 1:05:11.120 fender and all that kind of shit. That was what 1:05:11.240 --> 1:05:13.120 I thought I was gonna do it, pick slow riders. 1:05:13.160 --> 1:05:15.000 I was into cars. I always been in the cars. 1:05:15.640 --> 1:05:17.560 And I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:19.360 know how easy it was to get a girl pregnant. 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:21.840 You know. I was just like a young dage, was 1:05:21.880 --> 1:05:22.240 not style. 1:05:22.280 --> 1:05:24.520 I wasn't getting that much pussy up to that point, 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:26.880 you anyway. 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:29.080 Nah, So I got it pregnant, and I was like, fuck, 1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:32.000 so now I got a baby coming. And I'm a 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.920 small time hustler, you know, doing small bullshit, you know, 1:05:35.040 --> 1:05:36.120 stealing car radios. 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:37.880 Nothing, drugs hadn't come. 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:41.040 To nothing that, nothing had come up that was going 1:05:41.080 --> 1:05:46.280 to make me rich. And I was also very athletic. 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:49.040 I was in gymnastics in high school. I was doing 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:53.680 you know, parallel bars, crunch your highest crunch. Yeah, So 1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:57.440 I was strong. I was very strong. So they had 1:05:57.480 --> 1:06:02.320 an enlisting office on crench Yaw and I just walked 1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:03.560 in there and I was like, you know, I got 1:06:03.680 --> 1:06:05.280 to get out of the game because I got a kid. 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:07.280 And so I went in there and and I just 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:11.080 basically was picking uniforms. I was like, well, what's that, nigga, 1:06:11.200 --> 1:06:15.160 that's infantry. You get twenty five hundred dollars bonus. I'm like, word, okay. 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.640 And he said that red beret, that's airborne, you get 1:06:18.640 --> 1:06:19.920 another twenty five hundred. 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:22.920 I was like, I can't come home in no red beret. 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:25.560 You didn't I couldn't wear no red I was like yo. 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:27.840 So then I said the next one was the Black Beret, 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:28.840 which were the Rangers. 1:06:29.480 --> 1:06:29.840 Serious? 1:06:30.280 --> 1:06:32.560 I like that because that was like the Black Panthers, right, 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:35.520 And then the next one was special Forces the Green Beret. 1:06:35.720 --> 1:06:38.400 But that was fifty two weeks of basic or AI 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:39.240 T wait sold on. 1:06:39.360 --> 1:06:41.280 You was about to join the army, and they tried 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:43.080 to offer you red you use none. 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:48.560 Why when I went in this nigga when they refused 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:50.520 the army for red, Well, when I went in there, 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:53.720 I was picking uniforms. I just was like, what am 1:06:53.720 --> 1:06:55.240 I going to look like? And then they was like, 1:06:55.320 --> 1:07:00.640 well this is regular infantry. This this call Mike moves 1:07:00.680 --> 1:07:05.080 on an interview just right here. If you go, you know, airborne, 1:07:05.160 --> 1:07:07.160 you get to wear red beret. And I was like, 1:07:07.200 --> 1:07:09.200 I can't come home and no red beret. You did 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:10.680 what I'm saying. I was like, I can't come to 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:14.360 my neighborhood. Okay, yeah, so that's what it was. So 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:16.320 then I had a black beret and a green beret, 1:07:16.400 --> 1:07:19.600 so I picked a black beret. And uh, facically, it's 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:22.040 just a bunch of training, bunch of athletics ship. If 1:07:22.040 --> 1:07:24.680 as long as you have a good cardio, you could 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:27.000 do it, you know, but you just got to be disciplined. 1:07:27.040 --> 1:07:28.919 You got to get used to people yelling in your face, 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:34.400 and kind of home Rangers is kind of tough. H Well, 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:35.720 you know, if he was an army, you know, it's 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:37.920 fentimental ship. They're gonna yell at you, they're going to 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:40.200 try to fuck you up mentally. But then you gotta 1:07:40.280 --> 1:07:40.880 you know you deal. 1:07:40.840 --> 1:07:43.360 You sleep up from neighborhood. So how did you how 1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:46.440 did how did you did you do? Accept the discipline 1:07:46.480 --> 1:07:48.800 you got to you want to have to the hood 1:07:48.840 --> 1:07:49.560 is in the military. 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:52.960 But you know that, you know, like in that movie 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:55.280 Officer and a gentleman with the man said why are 1:07:55.320 --> 1:07:57.200 you here? He says, I ain't got nowhere else to go. 1:07:57.960 --> 1:07:59.320 That's the only way you're going to make it through 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:01.880 that training. You have to believe you have no options. 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:03.920 You can't. It's not something you just say, I just 1:08:04.040 --> 1:08:06.680 think I want to do. You gotta be like, what 1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:09.480 is my other option? I gotta do this? And so, 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:12.640 you know, the training was exciting to me, and the 1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:16.240 athletic part was exciting to me. The discipline stuff, I 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:18.599 realized they was trying to mind fuck me. So I've 1:08:18.640 --> 1:08:21.519 worked against that and I just knocked it out. But 1:08:22.800 --> 1:08:25.880 you know it's just some uh you. 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:27.320 Feel that any of those skills you learned in the 1:08:27.320 --> 1:08:28.080 military helped you. 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:37.880 Yeah, when I started robbing banks, Yeah, when I started yeah, yeah, 1:08:38.040 --> 1:08:40.080 well when I came home. 1:08:40.600 --> 1:08:42.080 The social waters from out there. 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:46.559 When from the service, because I went to the Service 1:08:46.640 --> 1:08:47.559 right out of high school. 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:49.960 Service and country, did you start a robbing country. Well 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:57.839 it wasn't my country. Sure you live on the podcast 1:08:57.920 --> 1:09:01.000 with Iced Tea. It's capon y'all. 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:02.920 What's up baby? 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:08.720 What's up? Component I asked about you? Yeah, I told him. Hey, hey, listen, hey, listen, listen, listen. 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:11.120 How long you're gonna be around? I'm gonna be here. 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:13.960 This conversation might go all night. No, no, but they 1:09:14.080 --> 1:09:16.280 going in. We're just getting the halfway. We're at the 1:09:16.320 --> 1:09:18.760 halfway pointer. Baby. You know what I'm saying. Well, where 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:19.160 you at? 1:09:19.240 --> 1:09:19.439 Man? 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:23.400 Hey, Hey, I'm close. I'm not fun. I'm not fun. 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:24.040 I come to. 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:28.840 You know, it's birthday, Happy birthday, and we celebrate the 1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:34.240 birthday birthday compone. All right, dug daildun gil. 1:09:34.320 --> 1:09:36.360 I hear Ali were going for this this interview iseed team. 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:38.040 We're gonna hit you back you after you at the 1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:43.000 yotel at the alright, one of. 1:09:43.040 --> 1:09:47.040 The That's funny when niggas be on the talking on 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:50.280 the phone, you got that and they be wiz kids out. 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:52.679 I don't know if they talk that ship way better 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:53.960 than you when I went. 1:09:54.760 --> 1:09:55.519 You hear what I said. 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:57.240 When niggas be on the phone and may be wizz 1:09:57.479 --> 1:09:59.880 kids out, I say, the fans talk that ship wave, 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:03.720 they break that ship down. He said, it's better talk 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:06.719 regular if you're not doing that much because the fast 1:10:06.760 --> 1:10:09.559 book whatever. Oh my god, oh my god, hold up, 1:10:10.400 --> 1:10:13.360 that was the that was the straight fucking just well, 1:10:14.160 --> 1:10:15.000 that is not good. 1:10:15.760 --> 1:10:17.760 M I didn't I thought. 1:10:17.800 --> 1:10:18.200 I thought. 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:21.880 I thought you helped me out my friend for no easing. 1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:26.000 So what we were talking about, sorry, talking about robbing 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:27.639 ship the bank robbers. 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:29.679 He got out. 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:31.920 My bank robbery. 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:36.519 There's two ways to the bank, come after, all right, 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:38.960 just trying to do the right comes. So you know, 1:10:39.040 --> 1:10:43.120 Ice team, we praised foul niggas and all right in 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:44.800 the way you described yourself. 1:10:44.560 --> 1:10:45.120 You're trying to do. 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:48.200 You're like, you're like the foul nigga president. You got 1:10:48.280 --> 1:10:55.000 out the harmony and rob the banks. I'm trying to 1:10:55.040 --> 1:10:55.599 do the right thing. 1:10:55.680 --> 1:10:57.920 But when I got home, when I when I left, 1:10:58.080 --> 1:11:01.920 my niggas was small time criminals. When I came home, 1:11:02.120 --> 1:11:04.720 they had elevated their game. So I'm like, so what 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:06.880 are y'all doing? They say, we robbing jewelry stores. We 1:11:06.960 --> 1:11:09.360 get in check cash and boots, were getting credit unions, 1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:11.280 you know, occasional banks. 1:11:11.720 --> 1:11:13.880 You know what I'm saying that's like that a bank. 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:15.960 So I was like, so, what's to get down now? 1:11:16.080 --> 1:11:19.360 Due to the fact I had all that military training, 1:11:19.800 --> 1:11:21.760 I was able to up the game up and I 1:11:21.880 --> 1:11:26.960 told them, you know, basically, any operation deals with intelligence. 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:29.320 The more you know about the mark, the better. 1:11:29.479 --> 1:11:31.519 So I added that to the game, like lots of 1:11:31.600 --> 1:11:34.919 heavy duty case and lots of understanding what the alarms 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:39.240 and the response times was and stuff. So you know, 1:11:39.560 --> 1:11:42.080 I mean, there's lots of ways to doing it. There's 1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:45.120 what's caught. Like with jewelry, there's this basic snatch and 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:47.400 grab where you just walk in and get a watch 1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:50.599 and run. There's basically the bash where you knock out 1:11:50.680 --> 1:11:54.360 the glass and stuff. Then you've got the burglary, which 1:11:54.439 --> 1:11:57.519 is a four or five nine. But if you're going 1:11:57.600 --> 1:11:59.600 for the safe, now see I could give up some 1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:02.880 game ship. Well, if you want to hit it, it's 1:12:03.000 --> 1:12:08.360 all right, fuck it it burglary. If you're going to 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:10.240 rob a jewelry store, rob it at the time it 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:11.919 opens or the time it closes. 1:12:14.000 --> 1:12:19.759 Why why because it's safe soap right in the morning. 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:21.479 So what you want to do is you want to 1:12:21.520 --> 1:12:24.000 get there right when they let pulling the ship out 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:26.880 of the safe, right when they're pulling those flags out. 1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:31.200 But that doesn't jewel That was when So once when 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:33.120 you see a jury story at night, when they close 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:35.080 that door at the last minute and they start to 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:37.360 and if you really want to time it, let them 1:12:37.439 --> 1:12:39.000 lay the plaques up, let them get. 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:42.360 Everything out and up out of the window. Let them 1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:46.599 do it for you so that everything is stacked. 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:48.559 But right before it's getting ready to go in the safe, 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:50.640 that's when you want to hit them. And then you 1:12:51.000 --> 1:12:52.960 know we're not going to give you the step by 1:12:53.000 --> 1:12:56.240 step details. And also bottom line is anything you do, 1:12:56.560 --> 1:12:58.760 you got to do it backwards, so it's not as 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:01.200 it's not as important. Where the lick is is where 1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:03.640 you're gonna escape to, and that has to be like 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:06.800 a maze of how you're gonna get away. A lot 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:08.240 of you don't just do it and then say, now 1:13:08.280 --> 1:13:11.320 where do we run this? All that is all thought 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:14.080 out one way where you know we use motorcycles on 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:16.640 one way streets. I could I could take a motorcycle. 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:19.160 I could hit the jewelry district over here and put 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:21.320 a bike in. All I'm gonna do is hit one 1:13:21.360 --> 1:13:24.599 way streets backwards, right, So they can't get but then 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:27.680 do they got helicopters under the ground, Like if you know, 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:30.840 the best way to get away from a high speed 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:35.240 chase is take them into a parking structure, not out 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:38.000 on the street, a parking structure where now the cops 1:13:38.040 --> 1:13:40.000 got to stay outside, they can only come in one. 1:13:40.160 --> 1:13:41.680 Then you can ditch the car and you can go 1:13:41.840 --> 1:13:45.240 through the steps. And yeah, so all this stuff, it's 1:13:45.439 --> 1:13:49.439 shit I did for years anyway, and and you're gonna 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:52.599 end up getting killed or murdered at some point because 1:13:53.240 --> 1:14:02.360 but yeah, I done it, and uh whatever, bank bank. 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:06.000 But the thing of it is, most of the times, 1:14:06.200 --> 1:14:08.120 the two ways you rob a bank, you play a note, 1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:10.439 you play a teller. You go for the vault. What 1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:13.160 you saw on the heat is a takeover robbery where 1:14:13.200 --> 1:14:17.479 they would take the whole vault. That that's a lot 1:14:17.560 --> 1:14:18.520 of exposure. 1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:21.479 I was. 1:14:21.640 --> 1:14:24.120 I was around cast and winning the vault and stuff 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:26.519 like that. But you gotta you're gonna be in there 1:14:26.520 --> 1:14:27.240 a long time. 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:27.519 You know. 1:14:27.640 --> 1:14:29.679 Most times people just walk up and play the note 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.800 and just get the one teller or you. 1:14:33.320 --> 1:14:35.360 Said a note, how did you the note? 1:14:35.400 --> 1:14:36.880 You just walk up and you just say I got 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:38.360 a gun. Give me the money, and that is hand 1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:40.280 you the month fuck of money. That's called playing a note. 1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:44.720 That's an easy that's the easiest way robbed bank. It 1:14:44.800 --> 1:14:50.320 doesn't matter. The thing well, that's that's that's those are impacts. 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:55.320 They still got them. Yeah then yeah, but you know what, 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:57.480 at the end of the day, I feel very uncomfortable 1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:58.320 talking about. 1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:00.800 This stuff, you know, comfortable, right. 1:15:03.479 --> 1:15:05.320 The thing of it is is I want And also 1:15:05.800 --> 1:15:08.800 also like a lot of my friends are still incarcerated, 1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:11.719 so you know, from they in there saying they didn't 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:13.120 do it, yeah, I am saying we did it. 1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:14.200 You know that's not good. 1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:19.760 But yeah, but you know it was it was a 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:24.559 time and you know, uh, when I got that chance 1:15:24.640 --> 1:15:28.000 to rap, I jumped in and I didn't you know, 1:15:28.040 --> 1:15:30.280 because I knew my days was numbered in low digits. 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:33.000 I knew that that wasn't gonna last. When you're hustling 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:34.479 like that, you make a lot of money, then you 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:36.320 spend it. You make a lot of money, then you 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:39.400 spend it. You're up and down. Those are licks, you know, 1:15:39.720 --> 1:15:41.400 and you make it and you spend it. And it 1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:44.280 wasn't you know, I don't I didn't see a long 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:48.439 life like that. So when the rapping came along, I 1:15:48.640 --> 1:15:51.280 was like, damn, you know I could do this. And 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:52.960 then I tried to rap like New York and the 1:15:53.040 --> 1:15:55.960 niggas was like, rap about what we do. And then 1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:59.040 we invent what we call the crime rhyme rhyme based 1:15:59.080 --> 1:16:02.160 around that, and I got archives and archives of that ship. 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:05.600 So I started making stories in the stories, like I 1:16:05.720 --> 1:16:10.320 call it faction, so it's its factual occurrence is put 1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:14.519 into a fictional scenario. So things I'm saying, did that happen? 1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:17.479 Did that really that happened? They couldn't not combine them. 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:20.840 So the story sounds really real because the ship really happened, 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:23.080 but just not in that particular order. 1:16:23.920 --> 1:16:29.479 Now, does that make any sense correctly? 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:32.559 He briefly mentioned, I think it's we need to talk 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:35.000 about a little bit more rhyme syndicate, which might be 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:38.439 one of the first cruise of hip hop maybe BDP 1:16:38.640 --> 1:16:40.680 and rhyme syndicates around the same era. 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:43.519 Yeah, and who who are the members of rhyme syndecks rhyme? 1:16:43.600 --> 1:16:45.960 So nevertheless, House of Pain, you know Pain ever left? 1:16:46.080 --> 1:16:49.439 Yes, what happened was, you know, when I was trying 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:52.000 to when I decided I wanted to rap. I had 1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:54.439 to kind of like leave my crime friends alone and 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:56.439 get with these rap niggas. Right, So I'm with all 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:59.400 these different rap people, and I would seem like I 1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:01.599 was gonna make it first. So I said to homies, 1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:03.080 I said, if I make it, I'm gonna try to 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:04.000 help y'all. 1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:07.320 So I was reading up. I'm an avid reader, so 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:08.040 I was reading that. 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:11.360 You know, Lucky Luciano had started this thing called the Commission, 1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:15.400 where it was a group of groups with one common goal. 1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:18.519 A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups 1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:21.519 of one common goal. So basically, we're not I'm not 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:24.519 the boss, You're the boss. You're the boss. You're the 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:27.639 boss of your own organization a network. But we agreed 1:17:27.760 --> 1:17:31.360 to sit down and talk before we fight, right, So 1:17:31.520 --> 1:17:34.200 that's what a syndicate is. So I wasn't I just 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:37.080 brought groups in. It's kind of like the West Coast 1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:40.639 Zulu Nation, really kind of like, but I knew LA 1:17:40.800 --> 1:17:43.320 wasn't really gonna ride with the Afro centric shit. There 1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:46.320 was two gangsters. So I created a term called the syndicate, 1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:51.720 and we had low Profile was in it, which was 1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:55.880 dub c. Of course, when we had When we had Mugs, 1:17:56.000 --> 1:17:58.080 Mugs was in a group called seven eighty three. At 1:17:58.120 --> 1:18:02.200 the time, he was a DJ and course Everlast Divine styler, 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:08.799 Donald d Uh from the Bronx, where was ever lessons 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:10.360 from where Everless from l A. 1:18:10.439 --> 1:18:12.479 He was like from the valley and he had the 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:14.680 hair at the time. Remember when he came. 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:16.559 He was brought to me by a guy named Bala 1:18:16.760 --> 1:18:20.800 Dasher and ever Last first sounding like rock Kim when 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:21.360 I heard him. 1:18:21.360 --> 1:18:21.960 He was rapping. 1:18:22.160 --> 1:18:25.360 Now new rappers were rapping someone else's voice, and I'm like, 1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:30.960 right right, you know, and I'm like, you sound dope, 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:33.200 but you got to use your own voice, you know. 1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:36.240 And so once he found his own voice, he started 1:18:36.280 --> 1:18:38.200 to rap and stuff. But it was just my way 1:18:38.280 --> 1:18:41.000 of I got Everlast a record deal, I got Divine 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:43.760 Style of a record deal, I did a compilation album. 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:45.559 It was just a way of me trying to help 1:18:46.320 --> 1:18:49.439 West Coast niggas, you know, and and try to create 1:18:49.800 --> 1:18:54.559 peace versus more which is not profitable educational. 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:05.759 So now. 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:14.640 New Jack City, which is New York City classic, but 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:15.280 that is so. 1:19:15.560 --> 1:19:21.640 Disrespectful hip hop classic, man, I love those in my 1:19:21.760 --> 1:19:23.280 eye relaxed because that's how. 1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:25.360 That's how much to me? 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.559 New Jack City is not only a New York class, right, 1:19:29.960 --> 1:19:31.719 it's not only a hip hop class. 1:19:32.479 --> 1:19:35.919 It's not only it's a worldwide class cinematic. 1:19:36.080 --> 1:19:39.080 But I need to know you as being the most 1:19:39.200 --> 1:19:43.479 gangster risk gangster you you you had the sixties on 1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:46.120 your back when it wasn't cool to say the sixties. 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:49.360 You had the crypt ship on your back when it 1:19:49.520 --> 1:19:51.479 wasn't cool to say the cript ship. You had to 1:19:51.640 --> 1:19:53.880 gang ship on your back when it wasn't cool to 1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:57.360 say the ship. And now you get presented with this 1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:01.679 raw as a co Yeah, at that time it would 1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:02.840 have been controversy. 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:05.360 But it's a joint called New Jack City, and they're 1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:10.000 saying that it's based on this guy was just not 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.760 Nino Brown, because Nino Brown is a fatition. 1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:16.840 Based on some cats from from from New York City 1:20:17.080 --> 1:20:20.680 and also somebody from the Bay from Frisco Brothers or 1:20:20.680 --> 1:20:24.000 something like that thought catch Money Brothers from New York. 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:25.519 I met the actual guy that said he was. 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:31.920 They feel it. Just told me wait wait wait, okay, 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:40.040 cast Money Brothers. Yeah, I got that, you're. 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:41.720 Right, but. 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.080 How does they even approach you? 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:50.760 Okay, so what happened with New jack City was they 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:53.200 wanted to make this movie and they had they had 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:55.280 written the movie, and they didn't know who they were 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:57.200 going to get. And at the time, there was just 1:20:57.320 --> 1:21:00.280 not there just wasn't a lot of black actors. Now 1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:03.240 there's hundreds of black hackers. But at the time, Wesley 1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:05.960 Snipes had only done Major League. He was, you know, 1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:08.519 he loved Major right, but that was he wasn't a 1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:14.320 big known actor. So George Jackson and Dougman Henry, the producers, 1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:16.880 they just had a brainstrom. They said, let's just take 1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:20.320 people from pop culture. Ice is selling millions of records. 1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:23.400 He's a little, you know, kind of little pro protest 1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:26.439 pro that let's get him. Let's get Chris Rock. He's 1:21:26.479 --> 1:21:29.360 the most grimy new So he just took all the 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:31.600 people that they knew that were hot and different, and 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:32.760 so let's make a lot of us. 1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:37.080 Never knew who Chris Rock was. Let's let's let's see 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:37.840 if they can act. 1:21:38.000 --> 1:21:41.000 So I'm in a club and Mario Van Peoples was 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:45.000 in the club and he says to me, he heard 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:46.680 me in the roof. 1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:49.880 He said he heard me in a toilet. 1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:52.360 I was talking ship to somebody in the bathroom, in 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:53.000 the toilet. 1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:56.040 I was in the bathroom, and I was on my ship. 1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:57.439 I was like saying, I say that. 1:21:58.520 --> 1:22:01.600 I said, yeah, nigga, if the motherfuckers can get a 1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:05.479 microscope and find one molecule of me that gave a fuck, 1:22:05.840 --> 1:22:08.200 then they can angle me. But they can't angle me 1:22:08.240 --> 1:22:10.760 because it's not a molecule there that gives a fuck. 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:13.000 So he said, whoever said that's gonna be the star 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:13.559 of my movie? 1:22:13.680 --> 1:22:13.840 Right? 1:22:14.560 --> 1:22:16.720 So I was on this on my ice t shit. 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.200 So I'm out there and now now I'm parlay. 1:22:18.840 --> 1:22:21.960 In with three females talking my bullshit, you know, trying 1:22:21.960 --> 1:22:23.639 to sell him a dream. So I'm in the middle 1:22:23.720 --> 1:22:23.880 of it. 1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:27.360 And then he walks over says, a Ice, would you. 1:22:27.439 --> 1:22:30.080 Like to be in a movie? Some I'm like, Hollywood bullshit? Right, 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:32.719 who Mario Mario? I'm like, Hollywood bullshit. 1:22:32.800 --> 1:22:35.519 You just people hit the old Mario Ron people says 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:37.240 that was the main cop. 1:22:37.640 --> 1:22:40.920 Yeah, yeah, and his father was in Sweet Sweet Back, 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:44.040 bad Ass song. He's a gee Melvin Van Peoples. So 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:46.559 he hits me with this bullshit about being in a movie. 1:22:46.880 --> 1:22:48.439 So I'm like, nigga, youre just trying to talk to 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:51.879 these girls, like, you know, I introduced him to the females. 1:22:51.920 --> 1:22:54.439 He's like, most serious. Show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow. 1:22:54.520 --> 1:22:54.920 We got this. 1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:58.360 So we change numbers and you were already on Warner 1:22:58.400 --> 1:23:02.760 Brothers as a record. Everything around One Brothers at the time. 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:06.240 So I show up at his thing and I look 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:08.200 at the script. I'm expecting I'm gonna get four or 1:23:08.280 --> 1:23:11.559 five lines. So I read Scotty's part and I'm like, yo, 1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:14.080 this is the whole movie. Son, like really, Like, I'm 1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:17.840 not an actor. He said, you can do it like this. 1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:20.320 Nigga got dreads like I gotta. I'm like. 1:23:21.800 --> 1:23:23.800 Like, and they were like, and he's a cop. I'm like, 1:23:25.640 --> 1:23:28.400 I don't know. I don't know. So I got home, 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:31.040 I start talking to people, you know, I talk to 1:23:31.160 --> 1:23:33.360 my boys. I'm like, Yo, they want me to play 1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:35.800 a police in the movie. Man, what you think we 1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:38.200 could I be in the movie. 1:23:40.120 --> 1:23:42.040 About Yeah. 1:23:42.600 --> 1:23:44.080 Niggas from jail was calling me. 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:46.280 I'm like, yo, yeah, blah, yeah, yeah, we sent the 1:23:46.360 --> 1:23:48.439 package and all that, but uh, yeah, you know, I 1:23:48.520 --> 1:23:50.439 know you in the bowels of the Devil. I understand 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:52.519 the man. They want me to play the police, right now, 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:53.920 what do you feel about that in the movie. 1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:57.360 Were if I was out, could I be in the movie? 1:23:57.600 --> 1:23:58.720 So no one was saying no. 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.640 Everybody was like, nigga, that's an opportunity positive. And then 1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:03.800 then the girls where I used to get my hair did. 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:05.320 I used to get my hair done twice a week. 1:24:05.400 --> 1:24:07.559 I had my shit permed up, you know, more wavy 1:24:07.640 --> 1:24:09.960 than the ships in the navy. You know, you know, 1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:11.920 you got to keep sharp and staying nice up in 1:24:12.000 --> 1:24:15.200 this bitch saying I got out match a motherfucking woman 1:24:15.200 --> 1:24:17.840 before I can she can understand what I'm saying. I 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:20.280 was sharp, so I was sharp. And the girls at 1:24:20.320 --> 1:24:22.240 the beauty parlor, they was like nothing from the hood. 1:24:22.240 --> 1:24:25.320 I called the beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon. 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:28.599 It was like I said, they want me to pill 1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:32.040 the police. They're like, you gotta do it, nigga, because 1:24:32.160 --> 1:24:33.680 you're gonna be one of the real niggas. And when 1:24:33.680 --> 1:24:35.320 you get older, you ain't gonna forget the hood, and 1:24:35.360 --> 1:24:37.800 you're gonna tell everybody what the fuck's going on, nigga. 1:24:37.880 --> 1:24:39.680 And if you don't do this movie, don't come back 1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:42.679 up in this month fucking right. So the sisters sent 1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:44.759 me out on that mission and I did the movie. 1:24:45.200 --> 1:24:46.439 I was shitting nervous. 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:48.960 But now did they know this, this this story took 1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:49.840 place in New York. 1:24:50.160 --> 1:24:53.360 Didn't matter. It was just an opportunity, opportunity, you know, Nordy, 1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:55.680 I believe this man. We come from a background with 1:24:55.840 --> 1:25:00.400 no opportunities, and we always are, you know, upset about that. 1:25:00.680 --> 1:25:03.120 When you get an opportunity and you don't take it, 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.080 and you're a real live sucker. 1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:07.439 You know what I'm saying. You're a real live sucker 1:25:07.520 --> 1:25:07.880 because you. 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:10.800 Mention, you mentioned about it, and now you get it 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:12.720 and you don't take it, and you got to put 1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:15.400 the jets on when you get that opportunity, because they 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:16.000 don't get them. 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:17.920 We don't get them. 1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:21.280 So I got that opportunity, so you took it. I 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:23.479 went and I tried my best to do the movie. 1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:26.080 I was nervous. This is at the same time Original 1:25:26.160 --> 1:25:28.719 Gangster came out. This is my biggest album. I was platinum. 1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:32.519 I was like, yo, like I'm like, fuck this all off. 1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:34.759 But then you're not telling me you had a choice 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.759 between going on tour this album and do New Jackson. 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:39.559 It was no tour at the time, but my album 1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:42.280 was hot. So I at k New Jack City, was 1:25:42.720 --> 1:25:45.400 can I risk this and fu up my record? It's 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:46.599 my record is hot. 1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:48.800 But but now, when you got the script, did they 1:25:48.840 --> 1:25:50.519 tell you the actors that was attached to it? 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:51.160 Didn't? 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:56.639 I didn't care, and I had a record out original 1:25:56.680 --> 1:25:57.400 game that was. 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:05.320 The and and ruin everything that I got going and 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:06.960 what my niggas accept me. 1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:08.000 I was worried. 1:26:08.040 --> 1:26:11.280 You know, I've always been more concerned with my friends, 1:26:11.400 --> 1:26:14.280 my close friends, whether they're in prison or home. That's 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:17.880 been my thermometer on what if I'm doing what's right. 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:22.439 I got to keep their respect. And my niggas is 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:25.519 straight niggas, and they love going the word nigga. 1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:27.960 Hey hold, but I'm. 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:31.720 Telling you to my niggas ain't corny niggas. They told me, Yo, 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:34.559 a hustle is supposed to get the money by any means, 1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:39.000 by the path of least resistance, and television has a 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:40.959 lot less resistance than twenty. 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:42.840 Five a life niggas. So you do the right thing, 1:26:42.960 --> 1:26:44.320 get that paper, I start planning. 1:26:44.360 --> 1:26:48.320 Do your numbers. So so now I'm I'm where was 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:50.719 I Jackson? Jackson? 1:26:50.760 --> 1:26:54.000 Yeah, New jack City. You were contemplating whether whether to 1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:54.360 do it. 1:26:54.800 --> 1:26:58.120 I was struggling, but I did the damn movie and 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:02.120 it was successful, and I is scared. Like they said, 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:04.040 we're gonna put dreads on you because we want people 1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:06.519 not to just see Ice Tea. We want them to 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:08.839 give them a chance for you to be another character 1:27:09.240 --> 1:27:12.840 that they're so familiar with. How you look it throw 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:14.840 them off. And I remember I went to the. 1:27:14.920 --> 1:27:16.640 Movies like after three days after it came out. 1:27:16.680 --> 1:27:19.320 I was sitting behind some niggas and I heard them, niggas, 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:20.600 look at Ice Tea with. 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:24.720 That motherfucking head on. Nigga, look crazy, motherfucker man in 1:27:24.760 --> 1:27:25.040 the movie. 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:31.040 You ain't let you want yelling. I'm like, yeah, you 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:34.240 did it too right. I wanted to get a real 1:27:34.320 --> 1:27:37.599 response in the nigga. About about ten minutes into the movie, 1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:41.120 fifteen minutes I'm chasing Chris Rock, They're like, get it, Scotty. 1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:44.920 They start calling me Scotti the name. I'm like that 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:48.320 was was like yo, it's piss. But I was like, 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:53.479 I'm pulling this ship like they're rolling with me. Did 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:57.639 the movie was a huge success. No negativity. Hip hop 1:27:57.760 --> 1:28:01.920 embraced me, and everybody know. Nobody even tripped off the 1:28:02.000 --> 1:28:04.960 cop thing. They was like, nigga, you acting, that's a job. 1:28:05.479 --> 1:28:07.640 And I've been rolling like that ever since. You know, 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:09.720 like acting is act. 1:28:09.960 --> 1:28:12.200 So that was your first movie, world that you fell 1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:12.680 in love with. 1:28:12.960 --> 1:28:15.920 On the first movie, I actually got to speak, you know, 1:28:16.200 --> 1:28:18.400 I was. I was in those other movies breaking back 1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:21.120 in the day. I was a feature rap talking. 1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:24.160 But then you then you get the call about to 1:28:24.320 --> 1:28:26.080 do a movie with Denzel ship. 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:33.479 We got Elliott Wilson h Ambulance, but you get the 1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:36.639 call that was my next movie, the Denzel movie. 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:39.360 Yeah, from Joel Silver, one of the biggest producers in 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:41.040 the history. He does the Matrix. 1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:46.360 What was the name of this movie? Ricky set with 1:28:46.520 --> 1:28:47.080 Denzel and. 1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:53.800 Because because this is the crazy shit, Denzel is not Denzel, 1:28:54.680 --> 1:28:56.439 He's He's he's dead. 1:28:56.960 --> 1:28:58.200 He ain't got the Zel yet. 1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:02.240 He just yeah, and you do this movie? 1:29:02.400 --> 1:29:05.920 Did you know that this motherfucker is going to be 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:07.519 the illest actor in the world? 1:29:07.840 --> 1:29:10.680 And did again? When did you didn't know that? 1:29:11.040 --> 1:29:13.120 I knew he was. I mean to me, Denzel, Well 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:14.880 you heard of Denzel prior to that, but I just 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:17.519 knew Deenzel Washington was the big was the biggest actor 1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:18.280 I ever worked with. 1:29:18.560 --> 1:29:20.840 You know, I remember I was just working with this 1:29:21.040 --> 1:29:21.479 new people. 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:24.080 I'm working with Judge Nelson on Denzel Well, I knew 1:29:24.160 --> 1:29:25.040 Genzel Washington was. 1:29:25.040 --> 1:29:28.519 I was because Wesley wasn't really big. When we women 1:29:28.600 --> 1:29:30.599 were loving Denzel that that was his ship. 1:29:30.680 --> 1:29:31.320 He was the pill. 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:35.920 He's like Billy d Williams. Yeah, he was a nigga. 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:39.400 So when I met Denzel, he just he he came 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:41.360 down to my level. He was like, look, man, I've 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:44.280 been on television. I did this, and I'm just here 1:29:44.360 --> 1:29:46.080 and we just getting ready to go do this. And 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:47.920 I never forget. I was in the first scene with him, 1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:51.160 and uh, you know, these really good actors they'll laugh 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:53.280 and joke and they go action the bamn, they'll hit 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:57.080 their cares. Actor. No, that's not method, Okay. Method acting 1:29:57.200 --> 1:29:59.280 is when the dickheads. Yeah. 1:29:59.400 --> 1:30:02.040 I was on the set with a method actor and 1:30:02.600 --> 1:30:06.040 I called him his real name, and I'm Joe. 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:12.280 Like when it's crazy, they won't there that person, they 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:14.400 won't break, Like if they're playing a drug addict, they 1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:16.320 gonna go out and sleep with real drug acts and 1:30:16.400 --> 1:30:18.320 come to work dirty and all that old buttleh. 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:28.840 Fuck that acting is lying. Acting is lying. 1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:31.679 Like if I say if I said, the next person 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:33.920 who comes in the door, make him convince him you're 1:30:33.960 --> 1:30:37.280 my manager. That's acting, right. So they said what do 1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:38.760 you learn how to act? I'm like, stand in front 1:30:38.760 --> 1:30:51.400 of a jug. I mean, Denzel was talking and he 1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:54.240 was joking. Then they said action and then Nigga jumped 1:30:54.280 --> 1:30:56.880 into character on me and I flogged my line and 1:30:56.960 --> 1:30:59.920 Nigga did like this. He was like, come on, nice, 1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:02.680 what's that? And I was like, oh, that's how we're 1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:05.280 getting down. Like he's shown me like, come on, like 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:07.720 we can we joke, but I'm gonna hit my line. 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:09.840 So that's when I was like, I want to learn, 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:17.320 just like that dude on the Ricochet. 1:31:17.560 --> 1:31:19.720 But that's when I'm my first chance learning somebody who 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:21.439 could you know when actors do that? And that was 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:24.439 then Zel, it's almost like they going through their legs 1:31:24.520 --> 1:31:26.519 with the ball they playing with you. They're like, I 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:29.160 already acting Pam and they hit the ship and then 1:31:29.200 --> 1:31:31.240 they'll come out of and start telling other jokes. You're like, 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:34.160 whoa's some dope ship right here? 1:31:34.280 --> 1:31:35.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:31:35.080 --> 1:31:37.040 So I always wanted to learn how to act like him, 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:41.600 and uh, you know that. But Denzel wasn't like he 1:31:41.720 --> 1:31:43.439 wasn't the oscar Ward winning that that. 1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:46.000 But to a bum nigga like me, he was. 1:31:46.360 --> 1:31:48.920 I was like nobody in the acting world. 1:31:49.200 --> 1:31:51.040 I was a rapper. Like, how the hell am I 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:54.400 even on screen with Denzel Washington? Really? You know? 1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:59.000 So I'm one of my keys is humility and bought 1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:01.200 to kick y'all out the hold this whole side of 1:32:01.200 --> 1:32:06.960 the section B smoke and ship niggas is hitting wax 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:09.760 and all. I gotta pay for this. 1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:13.080 You know, I didn't get any money for that, Like 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:16.599 New jack City. I gotn't get twenty six thousand dollars 1:32:17.520 --> 1:32:18.440 New Jackson. 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:21.200 And paid it paid. 1:32:21.240 --> 1:32:25.240 You get Royal t eighty million, eighty million bucks probably 1:32:25.240 --> 1:32:27.360 one hundred million by now, I know, no royalties. I 1:32:27.400 --> 1:32:31.080 got paid scale my first movie. And that's just how 1:32:31.120 --> 1:32:33.000 it goes. That's it. 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:37.240 Yeahs and and that that's not that's not That's just 1:32:37.320 --> 1:32:42.600 how the game they couldn't used, but it's what it 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:43.720 took them to the next level. 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:45.599 Yeah, you can't. 1:32:46.320 --> 1:32:48.280 How do you negotiate? You have no leverage? 1:32:48.800 --> 1:32:49.240 Who are you? 1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:51.800 They'll get another nigga, They'll get motherfucking a cake. They 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:54.400 put chuck in a fucking wig. I know even there 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:57.400 they d in there wrapping. You know, I knew everybody 1:32:57.479 --> 1:33:03.560 knew that replaced you. So so after that, when I 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:06.040 went to go see Joe Silver, I thought I was 1:33:06.080 --> 1:33:09.320 gonna get paid. So I walked to there. I'm like, yeah, well, 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:11.639 you know a last movie, you know made a lot 1:33:11.680 --> 1:33:12.960 of money. You know what I'm saying. I know I'm 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:16.200 about to get paid. Now, he goes ice Tea, you've 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:21.040 done one movie, stuck it to me again. So that 1:33:21.280 --> 1:33:26.200 movie I got like forty eight for less work this rick. 1:33:27.120 --> 1:33:29.479 I didn't get any money in movies until I did 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:31.400 tank Girl, where I played the kangaroo. 1:33:33.000 --> 1:33:35.960 I didn't even hear a tank What is this movie? Movie? 1:33:36.760 --> 1:33:39.439 A movie called tank Girl with Lori Petty and I 1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:44.519 played a I played listen I'm doing. I'm making a 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:48.200 movie with Keanu Reeves called Johnny Neumonic. I'm in Canada. 1:33:48.439 --> 1:33:50.240 So I get a call from my manager. She said, 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:53.680 will you play a stripper in Arizona? I said, you 1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:55.959 want to fucking right, I'll play a stripper in Arizona. 1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:58.240 So that night I did like two thousand set ups. 1:33:58.280 --> 1:34:02.439 I'm like, yo, I'm gonna be right. Yeah, I'm ready 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:05.160 to get my sex, said going. So the next day 1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:08.360 they send me a picture this kangaroo and it was like, 1:34:09.360 --> 1:34:11.680 I was like, what am I strippers a kangaroo? They 1:34:12.000 --> 1:34:12.840 know you're a ripper. 1:34:14.200 --> 1:34:17.280 Stripper a ripper, A ripper is a mutated person. 1:34:17.360 --> 1:34:19.920 I'm like, what's theme of the movie. The movie's Tanker 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:23.200 and she sounds so generic. I was like, yo, am 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:25.400 I not with Keanu Reeves? They need it? I mean, 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:27.640 what the fuck is going on? And they told me 1:34:27.680 --> 1:34:32.920 how much money I was getting. I was like, I've 1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:39.040 learned the bunny hop. No, that was that my first 1:34:39.920 --> 1:34:48.240 I got a nigion dollars and you ain't never seen it. 1:34:51.439 --> 1:34:55.400 I was like, oh yeah, if you google Tanker right now, 1:34:55.479 --> 1:34:59.600 I look crazy, right Huh. It's like it's like a 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:04.720 mute because he called a mutated person and they it's 1:35:04.800 --> 1:35:07.040 it's about like some sci fi ship. Yeah, like a 1:35:07.120 --> 1:35:11.040 fight over water and tank girl iced tea. You're gonna 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:13.160 see a picture of me the game. 1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:16.439 Okay, So while we pulling it up, Yeah, I want 1:35:16.479 --> 1:35:19.679 to respect my brother Charlie, Charlie's brother for twenty. 1:35:19.560 --> 1:35:21.840 Years, and he can. He dove right into it. Look 1:35:21.840 --> 1:35:25.320 at this, Look at his pictures. We're gonna see that's me. 1:35:27.800 --> 1:35:28.920 But you got a million for that. 1:35:29.320 --> 1:35:34.200 Yeah, twenty two days, twenty two days in that ship 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:37.479 that cjer is that No, that's that's Stan Winsy, that's 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:43.840 Stan Winston. That's five piece applications. That's all same, that's crazy. 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:46.519 Watch you gotta put it on the cameras. Fucked that movie. 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:51.880 We gotta show it to the cameras. So now, yeah, 1:35:51.920 --> 1:35:53.880 that was tank Girl. So that was you know, and 1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:54.880 and the thing it was. 1:35:54.960 --> 1:35:56.639 And now I'm at this point where I'm just taking 1:35:56.760 --> 1:35:59.320 jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're coming in 1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:01.240 so I'm like, shoot, you know, I'm starting to make 1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:02.120 money now finally. 1:36:02.560 --> 1:36:07.559 So now you consider that, you consider the actor. You're 1:36:07.680 --> 1:36:11.360 killing every role you get. Then cus I comes see 1:36:11.600 --> 1:36:12.280 Law Order. 1:36:13.400 --> 1:36:14.840 The same ship to me, I'm so sorry. 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:26.200 Can do that, y'all? 1:36:26.240 --> 1:36:26.720 Take a shot. 1:36:26.800 --> 1:36:29.639 Every time we say relaxed, Yeah, if you if you're 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:35.120 watching it, take a shot. Listen. So Law and Order Doom, doom. Yeah, 1:36:36.280 --> 1:36:39.720 the sounds that they come to you and they say 1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:44.240 what they say. Okay, little pre pre story. 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:48.320 At my first time working with Dick wolf Food, the 1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:56.200 executive producers that is in New York Undercover. Yeah, make 1:36:57.360 --> 1:36:59.600 I was at I was at my house in l A. 1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:04.120 Hold hold on, hold on, hold on, Benzina, come on, 1:37:04.400 --> 1:37:06.840 what's wrong with you? What's over? You don't even want 1:37:06.880 --> 1:37:09.919 to ask him for that? Buttery fingers? You have buttery fingers? 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:12.320 Yo? 1:37:12.600 --> 1:37:16.040 Menzino you live on the podcast? 1:37:16.640 --> 1:37:17.280 Zo up. 1:37:17.720 --> 1:37:18.800 We're here with Ice Team. 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:19.439 What's up? 1:37:19.479 --> 1:37:20.840 Benzino's Ice? What's happening? 1:37:20.920 --> 1:37:21.120 Baby? 1:37:21.200 --> 1:37:21.880 Here with Ice Team? 1:37:22.080 --> 1:37:23.639 What? What's good? Man? 1:37:23.960 --> 1:37:25.120 All that you in New York? 1:37:25.880 --> 1:37:26.120 Yeah? 1:37:27.200 --> 1:37:31.360 All right, and this out we have five forty one Lexington. 1:37:31.479 --> 1:37:32.920 I'm the w Hotel. Come through. 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:34.240 Okay, cool? 1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:36.080 You know my last name? Right? 1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:37.479 Yeah? 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:42.120 Don't see how they treat me so so New York 1:37:42.200 --> 1:37:42.760 got the cover. 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:44.800 I was with Fab five Freddy in my house and 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:46.360 well you on New York Coach the cover as well. 1:37:46.520 --> 1:37:48.559 I was on three times. I played a guy named 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:54.719 Danny Yup and Andre Hirel was talking to Fab five Freddie. 1:37:54.800 --> 1:37:57.360 Fab five was like, I'm at ice teas crip, he said, 1:37:57.400 --> 1:37:59.320 put ice tea on the phone. He's like, yeah, you 1:37:59.360 --> 1:38:02.040 gotta come on my show, New York Undercover. Andre was 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:04.320 part of that. I'm like, I told him, nigga, that's 1:38:04.320 --> 1:38:07.240 a rip off of New Jack City, you know, New 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:07.920 York Undercover. 1:38:08.080 --> 1:38:15.000 I said, you, what's that? Too young? 1:38:19.320 --> 1:38:21.479 I didn't know that. That's why I'm here to clarify. 1:38:25.400 --> 1:38:28.200 So so anyway, he's like, yeah, well come on the show, 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:31.040 and I'm like, all right, you know I don't. I'm 1:38:31.120 --> 1:38:33.720 doing movies now, nigga. And then he was like, oh 1:38:33.760 --> 1:38:34.800 a rights, you too big? 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:36.080 Now you know how they do that? 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:38.080 Like, I was like, all right, well, give me a 1:38:38.200 --> 1:38:40.280 bad guy role and I'll play it because I've been 1:38:40.320 --> 1:38:42.240 playing poly I said, give me a bad guy role. 1:38:42.439 --> 1:38:44.000 So there was this role called Danny Up. 1:38:44.920 --> 1:38:45.519 I played it. 1:38:45.800 --> 1:38:47.760 I get a call from Dick Walking, we don't want 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:49.280 to kill you. At the end of the episode, will 1:38:49.320 --> 1:38:52.840 you do more? And I fought with him. We renegotiated 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:54.839 and got a better room. Move me from a bullshit 1:38:54.920 --> 1:38:57.360 hotel to the four seasons. I did two more episodes. 1:38:57.400 --> 1:39:00.400 I shot, I shot Maligo, Malik Yo was Earl and 1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:03.240 I just wowed out. So after I did that show, 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:05.479 I did a show for him called Swift Justice. I 1:39:05.520 --> 1:39:07.760 played a bad guy. I did Law and Order. I 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:09.639 played a pimp. They killed me with a bowl and pin. 1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:12.920 Then I had a show called players on TV. That 1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:15.800 was my own show with costas Man Lauren Frank Hughes. Okay, 1:39:16.000 --> 1:39:19.200 when those shows were over, Dick Wolf, he says, I 1:39:19.280 --> 1:39:22.760 wish I had a stronger vehicle for you, right, meaning 1:39:22.840 --> 1:39:25.240 you got it. But so I'm like cool. So I 1:39:25.360 --> 1:39:27.920 was back in l A doing my business, doing my ship, 1:39:28.000 --> 1:39:31.200 trying to create iTunes. I was trying to create MP 1:39:31.439 --> 1:39:34.600 three bass that we could put rap music on and 1:39:34.640 --> 1:39:36.439 people could get it go straight to MP three. 1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:39.439 Niggas was looking at me like what is MP three? 1:39:40.000 --> 1:39:43.120 Niggas was like that'll never work. Never, never work. 1:39:43.360 --> 1:39:46.479 Niggas ain't getting rid of these CDs. So I'm like, no, Niggas, 1:39:46.600 --> 1:39:50.080 it's a digital f I was like, niggas like this 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:53.000 before Napster after that. It was during the time Napster 1:39:53.240 --> 1:39:55.280 was doing it. But my thing was, I will take 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:58.000 your album. I would digitally. I was gonna create iTunes. 1:39:58.120 --> 1:39:59.840 I would take your album. I would put it onto 1:39:59.880 --> 1:40:03.760 a website where we would download it for money. iTunes 1:40:04.040 --> 1:40:05.519 stones where I was. 1:40:06.520 --> 1:40:09.280 I was yeah, and I was gonna and. 1:40:09.680 --> 1:40:11.519 Not only that, I was gonna do it regionally were 1:40:11.560 --> 1:40:13.160 to be a map. What the fun man? 1:40:20.080 --> 1:40:28.600 Hello, let let's look yours up, Let them up, Let 1:40:28.680 --> 1:40:28.960 them up? 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:30.080 All right? All right? 1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:31.080 Really? Yeah. 1:40:31.200 --> 1:40:34.559 So, so my thing was it had a regional map, 1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:37.160 so if you could go to like if you were 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:40.120 in Pennsylvania, it would have show all the rappers from Pennsylvania. 1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:42.639 So it would break it down regionally because I knew 1:40:43.160 --> 1:40:46.160 hip hop was regional, so you could do it. But anyway, 1:40:46.200 --> 1:40:48.040 that was I was creating when I got the call 1:40:48.120 --> 1:40:53.880 the dude s for you, and uh, I said no, Okay, 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:57.479 I said no because I had fifteen employees, I had 1:40:57.560 --> 1:41:00.200 a databases, I had servers. I was trying to go 1:41:00.800 --> 1:41:03.600 and then my boy, we had a little problem in 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:05.960 La where one of my buddies has set me up 1:41:06.000 --> 1:41:14.679 to get robbed. Yeah right, now he's no longer with yeah, 1:41:15.080 --> 1:41:18.439 so so, but basically one of my friends who I 1:41:18.520 --> 1:41:22.840 looked out time to prison. He sent some people up 1:41:22.880 --> 1:41:26.280 to my office and it was a robbery that took place. 1:41:26.720 --> 1:41:29.160 So everybody finally figured it out, and it was a 1:41:29.200 --> 1:41:32.320 little hostile moment. Everybody was worrying about what's going on, 1:41:32.439 --> 1:41:34.240 and then then we figured out who did it, and 1:41:34.360 --> 1:41:36.280 it was tension, you know, tension and shit. 1:41:36.360 --> 1:41:38.960 You know, my daughter was in the room. 1:41:39.000 --> 1:41:40.360 It was. It was an ugly situation. 1:41:40.520 --> 1:41:41.240 It's in my book. 1:41:41.320 --> 1:41:44.160 I wrote it in my book. So when it happened, 1:41:44.360 --> 1:41:47.200 one of my boys from sixties, when they called an emperor, 1:41:47.320 --> 1:41:48.720 he was he with me every day. 1:41:48.800 --> 1:41:51.560 So he was like, said, they offered me to do 1:41:51.640 --> 1:41:51.920 the show. 1:41:51.960 --> 1:41:54.720 He said, get out of town, man, get out of town. 1:41:55.120 --> 1:41:57.640 You know, fuck it, it's four shows. It's what we're 1:41:57.680 --> 1:41:59.640 gonna rob. You is some money here, like you know, 1:41:59.800 --> 1:42:01.800 like you know, we weren't making no money yet in 1:42:01.840 --> 1:42:04.160 the business yet. And he's like, I got this, So 1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:07.080 I came out here to do four episodes for SVU 1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:21.280 and it's been eighteen years. But then also the negative 1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:24.519 negativity is also one of the reasons he say, gonna 1:42:24.520 --> 1:42:26.879 shake to New York because of all this dramas going. 1:42:26.720 --> 1:42:29.320 On, because you know, how hard was it to adapt 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:31.960 to New York because right now you like just as 1:42:32.000 --> 1:42:33.240 much as a New York Nigger than me. 1:42:33.520 --> 1:42:35.200 Well, I always loved New York. I always loved New 1:42:35.240 --> 1:42:38.240 y I was actually born in Newark, New Jersey. My 1:42:38.680 --> 1:42:40.760 mother passed when I was in the third grade. My 1:42:40.880 --> 1:42:43.200 father when I was in the seventh. I lived in Summit, 1:42:43.280 --> 1:42:47.360 New Jersey over there with my father, and then I 1:42:47.479 --> 1:42:50.439 left to go to La when my father died, and 1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:54.960 I was in La ever since my aunt his sister, 1:42:55.680 --> 1:42:57.920 so I lived out there with them and stuff. 1:42:58.000 --> 1:43:00.519 So this brought me back. Music brought me back. 1:43:00.560 --> 1:43:02.560 I was coming out here to get because because to 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:05.479 me being a rapper, I had to get the coast 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:07.560 sign of New York. You can't be a rapper and 1:43:07.720 --> 1:43:09.200 not have New York's coast sign. 1:43:09.280 --> 1:43:21.840 As far as I was concerned, already, happy birth I'm 1:43:21.840 --> 1:43:25.000 gonna get up. Let's say happy birthday. You got a 1:43:25.040 --> 1:43:25.760 good pony on. 1:43:25.920 --> 1:43:26.439 Right now to. 1:43:33.560 --> 1:43:41.920 Havy birthday, my brother you were doing. I'm gonna take 1:43:41.920 --> 1:43:42.280 a whole. 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:47.320 Hands what. 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:53.000 Brother love? We like half through my life story here 1:43:53.080 --> 1:43:56.720 these guys, and that's good. That's good. 1:43:56.840 --> 1:43:58.640 I mean it's better for it to come from my 1:43:58.800 --> 1:44:08.760 mouth to somebody continue please that bullshit. So when you 1:44:08.840 --> 1:44:12.320 moved to l A, Yeah, yeah, so that that was. 1:44:13.120 --> 1:44:15.720 That was when I moved to Cali with my aunt, 1:44:16.120 --> 1:44:19.479 and you moved directly to where you lived in Cali. Well, no, 1:44:20.560 --> 1:44:22.439 or no, I was living when I moved out there. 1:44:22.479 --> 1:44:24.920 I was living in an area called View Park, which 1:44:25.040 --> 1:44:27.719 is above Crenshaw and Vernon. It's like a nice area. 1:44:27.800 --> 1:44:29.519 It's up in the hills, and I used to I 1:44:29.600 --> 1:44:32.640 got bused to a white junior high school called like 1:44:32.880 --> 1:44:36.000 you kind of situation. He was in Palms Junior High School. 1:44:36.200 --> 1:44:39.160 Crenshaw High School was right down the streets. So when 1:44:39.160 --> 1:44:40.759 I got to high school, I said, I ain't catching 1:44:40.800 --> 1:44:43.120 the bus. And that's when I walked into the Shaw 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:46.519 and uh, that's what I say, an original gangster. How 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:49.519 I was introduced to the gangs. And I did a 1:44:49.600 --> 1:44:51.640 song because that's how I'm living. I said, you know, 1:44:51.720 --> 1:44:53.759 I was born in New Jersey. I said it before, 1:44:53.840 --> 1:44:57.040 but against nobody heard me. My mother died young, no 1:44:57.240 --> 1:44:59.920 sisters or brothers. I was the only son when I 1:45:00.000 --> 1:45:02.559 I was young. My pops died too. What's a nigga 1:45:02.640 --> 1:45:05.280 supposed to do? They sent me out west to live 1:45:05.320 --> 1:45:07.280 with my aunt. I guess they thought that was the best. 1:45:07.400 --> 1:45:10.320 But there was no love there and grown with no moms, 1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:12.879 I guess I was prepared to live in a vacuum. 1:45:13.080 --> 1:45:15.760 The bedroom, the kitchen, in the hall, the bathroom. I 1:45:15.840 --> 1:45:18.599 didn't leave home much. I didn't like LA. I didn't 1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:20.840 have no friends to trust. I got bussed to a 1:45:20.920 --> 1:45:24.160 school blacks and whites. I guess the shit was cool, 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:26.840 but by high school I changed. I didn't want to bust, 1:45:26.920 --> 1:45:29.000 I didn't want to play the game. I walked the 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:32.320 crunchy'll high. Shit was fly. I hooked up with a 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:35.800 new crew, some niggas that knew act like they knew 1:45:35.800 --> 1:45:37.640 what the fuck to do. Now you may call it 1:45:37.720 --> 1:45:40.040 a gang, but we called it a set, and it 1:45:40.200 --> 1:45:43.000 was our own thing. The whole school was down, and 1:45:43.120 --> 1:45:46.640 one way or another, everybody fucked around, whether hardcore or not. 1:45:47.160 --> 1:45:49.800 You wore the right color, yeass got shot. 1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:52.400 Ran. 1:45:56.080 --> 1:45:58.320 So yeah, that's how I ended up out there. So anyway, yeah, 1:45:58.439 --> 1:46:02.559 I ended up on SVU eighteen years and uh bless her. 1:46:02.680 --> 1:46:05.880 It was a very you know, the negative situation. Along 1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:07.200 with my buddies insight. 1:46:08.560 --> 1:46:10.599 It's just what do you think about Dave Chappelle when 1:46:10.600 --> 1:46:11.680 he made the skin about that. 1:46:12.360 --> 1:46:14.960 Dave Chappelle's a genius. It's it's gonna be hard to 1:46:15.040 --> 1:46:18.360 find somebody as funny. It's Dave Chappelle. Like every once 1:46:18.439 --> 1:46:21.519 in a while a comic genius comes out, like I 1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:26.080 lived through Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy, but Dave Chappelle 1:46:26.360 --> 1:46:30.160 just hits comedy from some other angle that niggas ain't agree, 1:46:30.479 --> 1:46:33.679 ain't it's just abnormal. Like, you know, I'm a fan 1:46:33.800 --> 1:46:37.960 of everybody, you know, I was just you know, I 1:46:38.080 --> 1:46:40.400 love everybody. I was asked with Kevin Hart the other day. 1:46:40.640 --> 1:46:43.120 But Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, if you don't bring your 1:46:43.360 --> 1:46:44.439 your monkey ass on here. 1:46:44.560 --> 1:46:46.160 Yeah, Kevin Mark's cool man. 1:46:46.840 --> 1:46:50.280 Yeah, Kevin's a businesspell Evin, Chris Rock, all them. 1:46:50.320 --> 1:46:56.040 But Dave bro Dave's comedy is is different. See Dave's natural. 1:46:56.400 --> 1:46:57.160 You know what I'm saying. 1:46:59.040 --> 1:47:01.280 It's something different though, and he and he, I mean, 1:47:01.320 --> 1:47:03.280 we did the player haters ball. He doesn't give a 1:47:03.360 --> 1:47:07.120 fuck who writes that ship? But nasty, I'm gonna go 1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:09.559 home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl. 1:47:10.200 --> 1:47:13.719 Who writes ship? Like? What was the event you? Actually? 1:47:14.080 --> 1:47:15.960 I spent at an event in Miami. I think it 1:47:16.080 --> 1:47:17.840 was the player Was it the player's ball in Miami 1:47:17.960 --> 1:47:18.880 at Luke's Club? 1:47:19.080 --> 1:47:20.599 Oh, that was a player's ball. Probably. 1:47:20.760 --> 1:47:23.120 I was DJing I have a picture and you're like 1:47:23.280 --> 1:47:25.640 right next to me and told me you want you 1:47:25.680 --> 1:47:28.519 wanted to rhyme and you're like play shook Ones part two? 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:29.800 Oh yeah, rhymed in that spot. 1:47:29.960 --> 1:47:32.240 Yeah, I was the one spending. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. 1:47:32.280 --> 1:47:32.840 I have a picture. 1:47:33.040 --> 1:47:33.920 Okay, that's what's. 1:47:36.160 --> 1:47:38.479 I don't have it all a real picture. 1:47:40.680 --> 1:47:40.880 Yeah. 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:42.760 I think me and Coco were in there that night, 1:47:43.800 --> 1:47:45.680 So yeah, this is where I was gonna go. 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:51.799 Before we go there, I'm I probably think You're probably 1:47:51.920 --> 1:47:55.240 the first rap album I might have ever jerked off. 1:47:56.680 --> 1:47:58.879 It was the cover the same time. 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:07.960 That that was Power, Well you know what it was. 1:48:08.160 --> 1:48:12.280 It was it was just like nobody was doing it. 1:48:12.439 --> 1:48:17.240 Nobody was connecting sex, you know, the guns and all that, 1:48:17.640 --> 1:48:19.120 and I was like, this is part of it. 1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:21.439 Luke did it, but he didn't do it like he 1:48:21.479 --> 1:48:23.200 didn't gain somewhere he did. 1:48:23.720 --> 1:48:26.479 We did it and that was artistic actually the way 1:48:26.520 --> 1:48:29.519 you did when we did yeah the front of the Back, Well. 1:48:29.439 --> 1:48:31.519 That was the second album I did it on. Ryan 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:35.280 Tay's darling was in the car with us, like in 1:48:35.360 --> 1:48:37.559 a in a bathing suit and me and Evil were 1:48:37.600 --> 1:48:39.479 in a Porsche and we had a palm tree and 1:48:39.600 --> 1:48:42.120 we were trying Glenn Friedman shot that and we were 1:48:42.200 --> 1:48:45.120 trying to say this is Cali. We wanted that to 1:48:45.240 --> 1:48:48.400 say California. When the time I did the Power album cover. 1:48:48.479 --> 1:48:51.519 I was dealing with power, like the three the three 1:48:51.640 --> 1:48:55.479 levels of power. One sex, that's the biggest power, right, 1:48:55.560 --> 1:49:01.120 so you see her. The next power is weapons, sex, 1:49:01.200 --> 1:49:03.519 money and guns, so you see the weapons. And then 1:49:03.600 --> 1:49:06.080 the next power is deception. And when you turn it 1:49:06.160 --> 1:49:09.000 over you see me and evil was strapped. So I 1:49:09.160 --> 1:49:12.720 feel deception is the ultimate power because you never know 1:49:12.800 --> 1:49:13.800 who's giving it to you. 1:49:14.400 --> 1:49:17.080 You know, you, I think you fired me, but really 1:49:17.160 --> 1:49:19.200 he called the shot. He walked away. 1:49:19.520 --> 1:49:22.280 So people that work in that realm of deception and 1:49:22.439 --> 1:49:26.679 and and that's a that's the awesome business. You don't 1:49:26.720 --> 1:49:29.840 know where the shot comes from. And that's the scarier power, 1:49:30.360 --> 1:49:32.160 you know. So that's what I was dealing with on 1:49:32.200 --> 1:49:34.840 the album. Because of course Darlene looked incredible at the time. 1:49:35.040 --> 1:49:37.040 The niggas you're saying, Darlene, but we don't know that. 1:49:37.200 --> 1:49:39.280 Darlene was was my that's my son's mother. 1:49:39.360 --> 1:49:41.360 And I've never been married before, but that was my 1:49:41.520 --> 1:49:43.800 son's mother at the time, and you know, me and 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:45.799 her still got a good relationship, I think. 1:49:46.560 --> 1:49:50.880 Yeah, right, but your son, yeah. 1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:52.400 Yeah. 1:49:52.560 --> 1:49:55.720 But you know, at the time, I was I was 1:49:55.800 --> 1:49:58.800 in a world where I thought I thought you had 1:49:58.840 --> 1:50:04.040 to be real. Thought you couldn't lie. So I didn't 1:50:04.080 --> 1:50:06.000 know you could wear other people's jewelry. I didn't know 1:50:06.080 --> 1:50:09.840 you could say. I didn't know you could have a 1:50:09.920 --> 1:50:12.439 girl on the album covered it wasn't your gun. I 1:50:12.520 --> 1:50:13.639 didn't notice everything. 1:50:16.680 --> 1:50:17.040 I didn't know. 1:50:20.720 --> 1:50:23.240 I don't know I had to shoot in my own house. 1:50:23.320 --> 1:50:27.000 I had to. I didn't know that that. Oh that's 1:50:27.040 --> 1:50:29.639 what I say. The Gats in my promo shot props. 1:50:30.600 --> 1:50:35.400 You know, so I I didn't think that was okay, 1:50:36.280 --> 1:50:40.400 and you know I was. I ran my career, but 1:50:40.920 --> 1:50:44.040 I ran my career based on those principles. If you know, 1:50:44.479 --> 1:50:45.920 I said I don't when I said I don't wrap 1:50:45.920 --> 1:50:48.320 about Gats, Iron got hose. 1:50:48.000 --> 1:50:48.559 Iron caught. 1:50:48.960 --> 1:50:51.080 You know, guns, I ain't shot. The game to me 1:50:51.240 --> 1:50:53.680 is too fucking deep. If I did, honestly believe, I 1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:56.920 die in my sleep. If I don't have it, I'm 1:50:56.920 --> 1:50:59.439 a rap about not having it right now, you know, 1:50:59.680 --> 1:51:00.519 until I get it. 1:51:01.840 --> 1:51:04.800 But this was duck down. 1:51:06.720 --> 1:51:07.240 We will. 1:51:08.600 --> 1:51:10.719 Shorty. Yeah, that's my god. 1:51:11.040 --> 1:51:12.920 Yeah, let me let me just tell you somebodic tea. 1:51:13.960 --> 1:51:20.640 At the end of the day, me and Compone we 1:51:20.800 --> 1:51:25.719 met in jail. We never ever ever. 1:51:25.720 --> 1:51:28.599 In jail, said we're gonna come home and rap right, 1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:32.719 me and this foul nigga, And I'm a foul nigga 1:51:32.760 --> 1:51:36.599 to him. It's my brother though, my brother. 1:51:37.000 --> 1:51:38.200 But we came home. 1:51:38.320 --> 1:51:41.559 We was in jail, in jail saying we're gonna flip 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:48.360 some cocaine. Absolutely, I came home and Capone was rapping, 1:51:48.439 --> 1:51:52.000 and it was just like I was like what And 1:51:52.200 --> 1:51:54.920 I was rapping too in jail. But we ain't never 1:51:55.000 --> 1:52:01.160 really share raps. So we had this whole altitude we 1:52:02.040 --> 1:52:06.320 had embarked on. But and this is the reason why 1:52:06.400 --> 1:52:09.479 I named it Gainst the Rap or reality Rap. If 1:52:09.560 --> 1:52:13.920 it wasn't for you, they probably wouldn't be us. And 1:52:14.000 --> 1:52:17.080 that's real ship because when I look at the history 1:52:17.439 --> 1:52:20.400 and sometimes I could google something, I hate googling because 1:52:20.400 --> 1:52:23.400 I like to remember from what and the first original 1:52:23.520 --> 1:52:27.080 person that ever spit reality rap, Gainst the Rap, whatever 1:52:27.200 --> 1:52:28.439 it is is you. 1:52:28.960 --> 1:52:33.200 Thank you, and we all owe you, not just we 1:52:33.240 --> 1:52:35.080 didn't know how to be fake, either of them. Yeah, 1:52:35.120 --> 1:52:35.599 that's the thing. 1:52:35.680 --> 1:52:36.240 That's the thing. 1:52:36.479 --> 1:52:39.880 We didn't know that. That's okay. 1:52:40.080 --> 1:52:41.960 We didn't know you could do a photo shoot and 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:44.479 have a fake gun. You did a photo shoot for 1:52:44.520 --> 1:52:46.760 the vibe. You had a real gun and it went 1:52:46.840 --> 1:52:50.160 on and it went and it went off. 1:52:51.479 --> 1:52:53.360 But I don't understand it at all, this one. 1:52:53.400 --> 1:52:56.800 I don't understand how people can get on Instagram and 1:52:56.840 --> 1:52:59.559 all that in line and talk about ship but then 1:52:59.680 --> 1:53:02.559 all the friends see it and they know it's not real, 1:53:03.600 --> 1:53:05.920 but their friends let them do it, so their friends 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:06.519 fake too. 1:53:06.640 --> 1:53:10.200 They're going along with this. They checked by the lights. 1:53:10.240 --> 1:53:13.880 If the lights there are, that's the reality. But you 1:53:14.000 --> 1:53:15.240 gotta have balls to do that. 1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:18.400 Actually me to put a picture up of me saying 1:53:18.439 --> 1:53:20.360 this is my house and the niggas know that. 1:53:21.000 --> 1:53:24.200 What kind of person is that? You got Instagram police? 1:53:24.240 --> 1:53:25.559 That's catching motherfuckers too. 1:53:27.240 --> 1:53:27.479 Boy. 1:53:27.600 --> 1:53:28.439 Yeah, I'm talking. 1:53:28.320 --> 1:53:31.720 About your friend that I'm talking about your friends. Like 1:53:31.840 --> 1:53:36.040 I was held accountable for every lyric, every lihime like Ice, 1:53:36.120 --> 1:53:38.519 you know, come on, Ice, nigga, yo, what you know? 1:53:38.600 --> 1:53:41.200 I had to make sure I stayed within the lines 1:53:42.160 --> 1:53:44.240 because my niggas would have laughed me out of town 1:53:44.320 --> 1:53:47.200 maybe like come on, Ice, you know, And my homie said, Ice, 1:53:47.240 --> 1:53:49.439 you don't never have to lie because you live such 1:53:49.439 --> 1:53:50.360 an incredible life. 1:53:50.400 --> 1:53:52.320 You don't have to it, just within it. 1:53:52.600 --> 1:53:55.200 If you don't you know, people ain't gonna believe most 1:53:55.200 --> 1:53:56.240 of the stories I tell. 1:53:56.120 --> 1:53:58.000 I need a nigga right here. This the code SIGNE 1:53:58.120 --> 1:53:58.800 half the ship. 1:53:59.200 --> 1:53:59.320 You know. 1:53:59.479 --> 1:54:01.720 So people, but I don't get it now. I just 1:54:01.800 --> 1:54:02.639 look at people when. 1:54:05.520 --> 1:54:10.280 I would like to ask you hip hop now, what 1:54:10.520 --> 1:54:12.880 is your what is what is ice feelings on hip hop? 1:54:12.960 --> 1:54:15.639 I just don't think it's held to the same same 1:54:15.800 --> 1:54:17.480 rules or same standards. 1:54:17.880 --> 1:54:21.240 When I got in hip hop isn't held to the 1:54:21.280 --> 1:54:24.320 same standards as it is when you saw. 1:54:24.280 --> 1:54:27.240 Nothing but but but but. I think when I got 1:54:27.280 --> 1:54:30.680 into Wrap, I understood. You know, people that brought me 1:54:30.840 --> 1:54:34.880 in mail and everybody cheese to me, they said hip 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:37.880 hop requires skill. That's what I did in the Art 1:54:37.960 --> 1:54:40.840 of Wrap, my movie. I said, it requires skill. You 1:54:40.960 --> 1:54:42.680 have to be have skill to be a breaker, a 1:54:42.800 --> 1:54:45.120 skill to be a rapper, skill to be a DJ. 1:54:46.080 --> 1:54:46.240 Right. 1:54:46.560 --> 1:54:48.680 Once you lower the bar to where there's no skill, 1:54:48.760 --> 1:54:50.240 it's no longer an art form. 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:54.760 It's all yeah. So I came in when niggas would 1:54:54.760 --> 1:54:56.520 call you whack and you had to take it like 1:54:56.760 --> 1:54:59.160 you act, or you had to get better. You try 1:54:59.200 --> 1:55:01.960 to get better. It's now to me, it's kind of 1:55:02.000 --> 1:55:06.480 like dance music. It's kind of like disco. It's just 1:55:06.880 --> 1:55:12.280 beats and the productions, some of the some of the productions. 1:55:14.400 --> 1:55:17.240 I mean, I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I'm being honest. 1:55:18.240 --> 1:55:20.640 I can go into a club. I can go into 1:55:20.720 --> 1:55:22.960 a club and listen to trap beats all night long 1:55:23.080 --> 1:55:26.240 and I'm rocking. I mean, that's the sonic, the sound, 1:55:26.360 --> 1:55:29.440 the production and everything, but the lyrical context. 1:55:32.640 --> 1:55:36.440 Everybody starts just calling me Jack Juller, you live on 1:55:36.520 --> 1:55:38.560 the podcast with Iced Tea and John. 1:55:39.320 --> 1:55:42.160 Make get out of here. You know what up? 1:55:42.800 --> 1:55:43.160 Iced team? 1:55:44.520 --> 1:55:51.200 What up? Jack? I'm a fan man. 1:55:53.560 --> 1:55:55.400 I was with Jack and the Bronx. You know where 1:55:55.400 --> 1:55:59.000 you at? Hey, Ali, Ali, Ali know the address? Come through? Hey, 1:55:59.120 --> 1:56:00.920 we got to come up with the right all right, 1:56:00.960 --> 1:56:02.880 all right, all right, I break some and vodka. 1:56:02.960 --> 1:56:05.800 Goddamn it. I make niggas turn off their phones when 1:56:05.800 --> 1:56:06.440 they in my house. 1:56:06.600 --> 1:56:09.440 No, you know what, you know what, let me tell 1:56:09.480 --> 1:56:13.400 you some ice. They don't accumulate more. I haven't said 1:56:13.440 --> 1:56:16.360 this the whole interview. And one thing, one thing, one 1:56:16.400 --> 1:56:19.040 thing that I have to say to you is ice. 1:56:20.960 --> 1:56:23.080 Although I give the same love that you give to 1:56:23.200 --> 1:56:26.640 me to younger artists, but you not have ever been 1:56:26.720 --> 1:56:29.800 obligated to give me any love that you always gave me. 1:56:30.000 --> 1:56:32.160 Because I'm a fan. But it's real though I'm not. 1:56:32.320 --> 1:56:32.800 I'm not, I'm not. 1:56:33.600 --> 1:56:35.320 Let me let me keep let me. 1:56:35.400 --> 1:56:39.480 Keep bigging you, let me keep bigging you up, because 1:56:39.560 --> 1:56:43.760 Ice you always had our back from the beginning, like 1:56:43.880 --> 1:56:47.640 you're one of them guys. Listen, you one of them 1:56:47.640 --> 1:56:50.520 guys that I know. I call and I know you're 1:56:50.520 --> 1:56:53.240 gonna respond. I know you're going to be and you 1:56:53.360 --> 1:56:58.120 know I always haven't been able to to do what 1:56:58.240 --> 1:57:01.720 I gotta do. But when I've been at the lowest, 1:57:01.800 --> 1:57:04.080 the medium, the highest always. 1:57:03.840 --> 1:57:06.000 Been in my corner. Because real niggas ain't one to 1:57:06.040 --> 1:57:06.840 show up at the party. 1:57:06.920 --> 1:57:07.240 Niggas. 1:57:07.280 --> 1:57:09.480 Real niggas meet you in the parking lot in the 1:57:09.600 --> 1:57:18.440 rain with the pistol. Thank you. I want to thank you. 1:57:18.560 --> 1:57:19.760 We'll go to my soldier boy. 1:57:19.800 --> 1:57:23.560 Hold on, but before before I get to the soldier boy, 1:57:23.560 --> 1:57:24.560 because I want to know who you. 1:57:24.600 --> 1:57:25.200 Got in the fight. 1:57:25.560 --> 1:57:31.840 But before that clown asked niggas, before that, I would like, well, 1:57:31.840 --> 1:57:32.920 you didn't let me finish. 1:57:33.240 --> 1:57:36.040 Okay, you didn't let me finish. I was I was, 1:57:36.320 --> 1:57:40.600 I was saying the music now sonically is incredible, but 1:57:40.880 --> 1:57:43.640 it's I just feel its lack of the lyrical content 1:57:43.800 --> 1:57:46.280 that I think that they're wrapping. They're rapping fast and 1:57:46.320 --> 1:57:48.800 wrapping stuff. But I'm not taking nothing from it. I'm 1:57:48.800 --> 1:57:52.040 not now. I listen to Jay Cole the other day, 1:57:52.120 --> 1:57:55.720 he got his record, and that's the only thing. I 1:57:56.000 --> 1:57:59.000 just think that, although you're a star now and you're rapping, 1:57:59.120 --> 1:58:01.440 take a minute and make a record and try to 1:58:01.560 --> 1:58:04.160 move somebody, like, try to change somebody's life with it. 1:58:04.440 --> 1:58:05.200 I understand it. 1:58:05.520 --> 1:58:08.000 I'm like, Okay, you got the baddest bitches, You got 1:58:08.080 --> 1:58:09.960 the money you hire all the time. I got that, 1:58:10.160 --> 1:58:16.040 But what else is there? Anything else is now some people, 1:58:16.280 --> 1:58:18.920 there is nothing else. It's just getting money. And I 1:58:19.000 --> 1:58:20.960 grew up with cats like that. It's just getting money. 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:23.160 But some people got it in them to try to 1:58:23.280 --> 1:58:25.440 help and move And if that's any you do it. 1:58:25.720 --> 1:58:32.040 But you change my life. Ice, You changed my life. 1:58:32.040 --> 1:58:34.680 One day somebody asked you and said, well, Ice, when 1:58:34.680 --> 1:58:37.720 you're dropping something, and you said, I don't want to 1:58:37.800 --> 1:58:41.360 drop something because everybody's dropping mixtapes for free. 1:58:42.040 --> 1:58:44.240 I don't want to spit my game for free. And 1:58:44.360 --> 1:58:45.800 that ship totally fuck. 1:58:47.400 --> 1:58:50.600 I was like, he said, if you notice, it's only 1:58:50.840 --> 1:58:54.200 East Coast niggas that do the mixtape game for free. 1:58:56.400 --> 1:58:59.960 West Coast mixtapes. They drop mixtapes, they sell these nips. 1:59:01.640 --> 1:59:04.160 We killed of people will. 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:08.800 Sit back and say the downfall, the downfall of New 1:59:08.920 --> 1:59:11.880 York was, whatever, the downfall of New York was. 1:59:12.240 --> 1:59:15.200 We downgraded the old it self so many people. 1:59:15.240 --> 1:59:17.760 And I said that one day and nobody paid attention. 1:59:18.080 --> 1:59:23.160 But there was a website called Daft Pith okay right, 1:59:23.680 --> 1:59:27.200 we put out a thing called the Anti Mixtape. They 1:59:27.240 --> 1:59:31.120 were dropping twenty free mixtapes a day on that website. 1:59:31.280 --> 1:59:34.160 Yeah, it was. It was like, yo, this is so diluted. 1:59:34.240 --> 1:59:37.040 Now there's no value. Your down labels are suing them 1:59:37.080 --> 1:59:37.240 for that. 1:59:37.400 --> 1:59:42.760 But still it's like yo, man, I mean like, if 1:59:42.800 --> 1:59:45.560 this is your business, then you gotta hold and you 1:59:45.640 --> 1:59:46.839 gotta take its content. 1:59:47.000 --> 1:59:48.080 You can't just give it away. 1:59:48.120 --> 1:59:52.560 I never threw out a free mixtape since it's ridiculous. 1:59:52.640 --> 1:59:55.040 It's like, what are you doing, especially somebody like you's 1:59:55.080 --> 1:59:57.000 already known. I mean, if you knew, you might have 1:59:57.040 --> 2:00:01.440 to mixtape, but I don't, don't. And then how did 2:00:01.440 --> 2:00:03.480 the producers get paid when you're giving away. 2:00:03.560 --> 2:00:06.440 Nobody, you just you just do yourself in the same 2:00:06.560 --> 2:00:08.920 person that didn't put half the work you put in 2:00:09.040 --> 2:00:09.360 the game. 2:00:09.720 --> 2:00:11.960 You put yourself on the same level as them when 2:00:11.960 --> 2:00:12.760 you have a mixtape. 2:00:12.760 --> 2:00:14.840 But that's why you gotta have producers that's lawyer like 2:00:14.960 --> 2:00:20.440 Hazardous Sounds, s b k H, Scram Jones, Incredible Cuts, you. 2:00:20.440 --> 2:00:23.080 Know, people like that because because I'm not getting no 2:00:23.160 --> 2:00:25.240 money or for this, it doesn't work either. So you 2:00:25.320 --> 2:00:27.520 got to have people that's willing to take that risk 2:00:27.560 --> 2:00:27.760 with you. 2:00:28.120 --> 2:00:37.480 But mind you this components. When you said that ice, 2:00:37.800 --> 2:00:39.320 it changed my mind. 2:00:39.600 --> 2:00:42.960 On your house from queens Bridge. You stop that queens man. 2:00:43.200 --> 2:00:47.480 Why does your vapor smell like room boys smells good? 2:00:47.600 --> 2:00:51.760 It was like old Spanish pussy. I'm just keeping it real. 2:00:53.360 --> 2:00:59.640 It's just like some noise some old man. But you 2:00:59.760 --> 2:01:05.760 know is crazy your please? You can text me the 2:01:05.800 --> 2:01:10.440 picture when you rock it. Please? What is it that's that's. 2:01:17.840 --> 2:01:18.560 Giving away. 2:01:21.640 --> 2:01:27.120 The shirt? Our interview with you is so perfect. 2:01:27.720 --> 2:01:45.560 Giving way just say to you right now, your I 2:01:45.960 --> 2:01:48.440 I just can't thank you enough because I know you 2:01:48.640 --> 2:01:50.080 humble and you and and. 2:01:52.200 --> 2:01:53.080 The is going on. 2:01:59.800 --> 2:02:04.720 You guys, hey, but what but keep going, man going. 2:02:05.040 --> 2:02:06.840 You saw him, and I just want to thank you 2:02:07.000 --> 2:02:09.800 because you know why, and I know you don't give 2:02:09.840 --> 2:02:13.600 a fuck. I know you're a real nigga, but you 2:02:13.680 --> 2:02:17.400 know what I feel is real nigga should be saluted nowadays. 2:02:17.920 --> 2:02:20.040 At the end of the day, fake niggas had their time. 2:02:20.760 --> 2:02:22.880 And that's the reason why me and my partner right 2:02:22.920 --> 2:02:24.160 here starting this podcast. 2:02:24.240 --> 2:02:26.160 But you can feel it is we want to. 2:02:26.640 --> 2:02:29.520 If you notice, we've never interviewed not one new guy, 2:02:30.760 --> 2:02:34.960 and if you interviewed the new guy, he came with 2:02:35.160 --> 2:02:39.200 an old And you know what, only this is the 2:02:39.360 --> 2:02:43.600 only generation in the world that when you become old, 2:02:43.800 --> 2:02:47.840 they kick you out with the first roll that you 2:02:47.920 --> 2:02:50.400 can still do it jazz, you can still do it, 2:02:53.000 --> 2:02:54.440 shouts up my main game. 2:02:55.000 --> 2:02:56.360 You could be sixty seven. 2:02:56.520 --> 2:02:59.320 Pop stars get more love for longer, and hip hop 2:02:59.440 --> 2:03:00.320 is the only things. 2:03:00.400 --> 2:03:02.440 So you know what for me and my partners, that's 2:03:02.440 --> 2:03:03.800 why I got a rock album now. 2:03:04.160 --> 2:03:08.200 But listen, but you ain't got to have a ten 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:10.840 million You just sticking with hip hop and you know 2:03:11.440 --> 2:03:12.040 you album just. 2:03:14.040 --> 2:03:22.160 As well. Sometimes you gotta snuff, you know, but this 2:03:22.320 --> 2:03:27.600 birthday you can't get mad. This is what drink champs 2:03:27.720 --> 2:03:28.400 Is drink chants. 2:03:28.440 --> 2:03:31.080 We want to salute our legends because there's no other 2:03:31.200 --> 2:03:34.480 platform to salute our legends. Like right now, if you 2:03:34.640 --> 2:03:38.240 say I'm going to do the hottest podcast quote unquote. 2:03:38.280 --> 2:03:40.720 They want to They want to get jay Z, they 2:03:40.800 --> 2:03:42.080 want to get Nas, they want to. 2:03:42.080 --> 2:03:44.880 Get Drake, they want to get all these people. That's 2:03:44.920 --> 2:03:47.240 not what we started out to do. We wanted to 2:03:47.320 --> 2:03:51.480 support our legends. You know, meet me myself, like the Raptors. 2:03:51.560 --> 2:03:52.040 I liked. 2:03:52.480 --> 2:03:55.360 One of the prerequences was what I like to hang out? 2:03:55.400 --> 2:03:59.040 Would you know? I wanted to roll with rock Cam. 2:03:59.160 --> 2:04:01.360 I wanted to hang with Big Daddy came. I want 2:04:01.440 --> 2:04:04.800 to hang around Compona no yea ray Kwan and want to. 2:04:04.800 --> 2:04:07.080 Hang with Easy. Give us an easy East story that 2:04:07.280 --> 2:04:08.080 I'm told. 2:04:08.960 --> 2:04:11.760 Nah, that's easy easy, well, easy game was. He always 2:04:11.800 --> 2:04:21.400 tried to tell people he was fifteen, shut up. 2:04:21.360 --> 2:04:27.440 Fifty five, come out. I know you don't come out. 2:04:28.720 --> 2:04:31.120 She's just wild out in the hotel room. Some stuff. 2:04:31.160 --> 2:04:33.080 I mean, I've seen Easy. You know the ladies that 2:04:33.240 --> 2:04:35.720 be cleaning the thing. It's like tackle a chick like. 2:04:38.080 --> 2:04:38.320 Like this. 2:04:38.440 --> 2:04:41.240 Before niggas was getting charges and stuff, niggas just wilding 2:04:41.320 --> 2:04:44.200 out but not you know, Easy was a good dude. 2:04:44.240 --> 2:04:47.600 I mean he was. He was the street member of 2:04:47.760 --> 2:04:49.960 the group. He funded that group right after. 2:04:49.880 --> 2:04:50.360 He said that. 2:04:50.720 --> 2:04:51.560 Yeah, it's true. 2:04:51.600 --> 2:04:53.680 So I'm gonna give you other people names and I 2:04:53.800 --> 2:04:57.080 just want to see you wanted to continue. 2:04:56.600 --> 2:04:58.720 To Easy with I know Easy. I mean, there's not 2:04:59.280 --> 2:05:01.200 think of it as Easy. He has passed away, so 2:05:01.320 --> 2:05:03.080 it's kind of odd to talk about him. I'm not 2:05:03.160 --> 2:05:04.080 gonna say no Wild. 2:05:04.640 --> 2:05:06.360 I'm actually a couple of people who have pastor. But 2:05:06.400 --> 2:05:08.120 I got wild story because you got you got, you 2:05:08.200 --> 2:05:12.760 got story. Arrested Jams, j Well Jam talking about Jam Messenger. 2:05:14.080 --> 2:05:16.520 Jay was Jay was another person who was like the 2:05:16.640 --> 2:05:19.880 most authentic like part of Run DMC, Like he was 2:05:19.920 --> 2:05:23.720 a street cat. So I would always actually like somehow 2:05:23.800 --> 2:05:26.480 they would gravitate to me and we would end up 2:05:26.600 --> 2:05:29.760 talking and stuff like that. But Jay was a solid dude. 2:05:29.840 --> 2:05:33.920 I mean, it's amazing that no one called who killed him. 2:05:34.280 --> 2:05:37.560 That's just amazing that somebody of that caliber, that's like 2:05:37.680 --> 2:05:41.160 somebody from like the one the Super Bowl, like Tom 2:05:41.200 --> 2:05:43.040 Brady get killed, nobody knows about it. 2:05:43.400 --> 2:05:44.320 You know, that's crazy. 2:05:46.480 --> 2:05:48.480 And the thing, you know what's crazy they talk about 2:05:48.640 --> 2:05:51.800 not solving big all on one second, they talk about 2:05:51.880 --> 2:05:55.000 not solving big murder, not SolV a park park murder, 2:05:55.360 --> 2:05:58.680 but they never talk about not solving Jamster Jay and 2:05:58.800 --> 2:05:59.720 he was just as. 2:05:59.720 --> 2:06:01.600 Pen and jay Z. 2:06:01.960 --> 2:06:05.400 Let me tell you, jay Z, I mean jam message 2:06:05.440 --> 2:06:08.080 Jay and run DMZ. Remember you're talking about the moment 2:06:08.160 --> 2:06:11.960 with you. That was the moment that made me really wrap. 2:06:12.400 --> 2:06:14.560 Like I went to a concert they had and they 2:06:14.640 --> 2:06:18.720 had everybody put their deeds and jam J was on 2:06:18.800 --> 2:06:21.640 a riser and they had lasers and ship and I 2:06:21.800 --> 2:06:24.640 was just trying to rap and I was like, Yo, 2:06:24.800 --> 2:06:25.720 this ship is rocking. 2:06:25.880 --> 2:06:27.760 Run yo. 2:06:27.880 --> 2:06:29.600 I like to know that because we had always been 2:06:29.640 --> 2:06:31.840 doing it in the basements and the little clubs and 2:06:31.920 --> 2:06:34.200 ship and when I seen that, I think I went 2:06:34.280 --> 2:06:36.360 home that night and wrote like twenty raps Like I 2:06:36.520 --> 2:06:39.760 was like, Yo, they run DMC. 2:06:39.920 --> 2:06:40.640 Let me understand. 2:06:40.680 --> 2:06:43.640 This was big. Yes, business a bit, but it was 2:06:43.760 --> 2:06:46.720 bigger than the basement and the small clubs hip hop 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:48.840 were okay, So I'm going a little bit all over 2:06:48.920 --> 2:06:53.600 the Yeah, Tac I knew pop when he was in 2:06:54.920 --> 2:06:57.200 Digital Underground. Yeah he was dancing. 2:06:57.800 --> 2:07:03.160 And it's that difference between dig underground. You could see. 2:07:04.800 --> 2:07:09.080 Tupo warned. I remember we were at a Soul Train awards. 2:07:09.120 --> 2:07:11.640 It was me and Dre and we were sitting at 2:07:11.680 --> 2:07:14.120 a table and Pock walked by. You say, d told 2:07:14.160 --> 2:07:16.600 them dot dr Dre. He just can't just say Drake, 2:07:16.680 --> 2:07:21.720 you know, yeah, as a stupid doctor Dre and and 2:07:22.320 --> 2:07:25.320 Pock walked by. And at that time he wasn't Tupac yet. 2:07:26.520 --> 2:07:29.080 I think maybe it was Treach or somebody. But he 2:07:29.280 --> 2:07:31.120 looked at the table and I could see he wanted 2:07:31.160 --> 2:07:33.600 to sit at the table, you know, I could see it. 2:07:34.000 --> 2:07:36.720 And then as he started to make his move as Tupac. 2:07:36.800 --> 2:07:40.959 I remember one time, see Pop was doing some strange 2:07:41.040 --> 2:07:43.080 things like all right, like he hooked up with the 2:07:43.200 --> 2:07:46.440 cats in in South central fifty second to five Deuces, 2:07:46.800 --> 2:07:47.880 which was rated. 2:07:47.840 --> 2:07:52.960 R and holds no no, I'm about to kick the 2:07:53.040 --> 2:07:53.760 produce out. 2:07:53.680 --> 2:07:54.600 But got go. 2:07:54.840 --> 2:07:59.120 He cooked up with raided all and they created that 2:07:59.280 --> 2:08:02.960 thing Thugee, which was based in south central l A. 2:08:03.640 --> 2:08:06.560 L A nothing homies in Jersey. No no no, no, 2:08:07.080 --> 2:08:12.320 no no, no. Doug life was rated R and and 2:08:12.560 --> 2:08:13.840 uh macadocious. 2:08:14.560 --> 2:08:18.320 They were out of l A right, And then you 2:08:18.400 --> 2:08:20.600 know he evolved from that, and then when he got 2:08:20.600 --> 2:08:23.520 into trouble out here, that's when Shug came in and 2:08:23.600 --> 2:08:25.600 got him out. But I remember one time I was 2:08:25.680 --> 2:08:28.160 in l A and Pop pulled up on me in 2:08:28.240 --> 2:08:31.360 a car with like this crazy ass chick, like some 2:08:32.000 --> 2:08:34.480 like strawberry bitch in the front seat. He had. 2:08:36.160 --> 2:08:38.360 But yeah, that's how I noticed this of my brother. 2:08:38.440 --> 2:08:39.960 That's exactly what I said in my mind. 2:08:40.120 --> 2:08:45.600 Strawberry is basically Brons did get off for crack, Like. 2:08:49.640 --> 2:08:50.120 Yeah, it's a. 2:08:52.000 --> 2:08:55.600 It's a l A street saying for like a crackhu. Okay, 2:08:55.800 --> 2:08:58.160 So this broad, I know it wasn't his woman. I'm like, 2:08:58.200 --> 2:08:59.480 what is this bitch doing in the car? 2:08:59.680 --> 2:09:00.680 She already you know. 2:09:00.920 --> 2:09:03.520 But he's getting high and he had weeds. He had weed, 2:09:04.440 --> 2:09:07.200 he had gun, and he wanted me to sit in 2:09:07.280 --> 2:09:12.040 the car and listen to his record. I'm like, nigga, are. 2:09:11.960 --> 2:09:13.040 You riding around? 2:09:13.240 --> 2:09:15.240 Like like are you serious? 2:09:15.440 --> 2:09:18.880 Pop? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, oh gee, 2:09:19.040 --> 2:09:20.240 so you know, let me just take me. 2:09:21.160 --> 2:09:23.200 He was trying to impress you, even if he wasn't 2:09:23.200 --> 2:09:26.000 trying to press you, because every time I hang out. 2:09:25.920 --> 2:09:27.600 With you, Yeah, I tried to impress But he was. 2:09:28.000 --> 2:09:28.720 He scared me. 2:09:29.000 --> 2:09:32.320 So I was like, I was like, pop, man, this 2:09:32.520 --> 2:09:35.160 is crazy. But I'll tell you some real inside ship. 2:09:35.400 --> 2:09:36.320 He was in my house. 2:09:36.760 --> 2:09:39.160 I had a studio called the Crackhouse, and he was 2:09:39.200 --> 2:09:42.000 at my house with the outlaws, a couple of the outlaws, 2:09:42.240 --> 2:09:45.280 and he played me hit him up and I didn't 2:09:45.400 --> 2:09:48.880 like it, and I was like, you're gonna start something. 2:09:49.160 --> 2:09:50.600 You didn't like what he was saying. 2:09:50.840 --> 2:09:53.000 I didn't like him starting to beef. I was like, dog, 2:09:53.320 --> 2:09:55.680 you knew I was going to go. I said, you're 2:09:55.680 --> 2:09:56.840 going in on dude's. 2:09:56.600 --> 2:09:57.320 Wife and all that. 2:09:57.600 --> 2:09:59.400 I was like, yo, He's like yo. And then at 2:09:59.440 --> 2:10:02.040 that time, he thought Big had shot him and I 2:10:02.240 --> 2:10:04.440 was like, yo, woll you can hear it. I wouldn't 2:10:04.760 --> 2:10:06.920 you ain't for the handling that with a record? Really 2:10:07.040 --> 2:10:07.320 are you? 2:10:08.040 --> 2:10:08.200 You know? 2:10:08.760 --> 2:10:11.840 So we kind of was on bad terms with that 2:10:11.960 --> 2:10:13.760 because he wanted me to ride with him, but I 2:10:13.920 --> 2:10:17.440 was like, I couldn't, you know, And so that we 2:10:17.600 --> 2:10:19.480 was we was kind of like in that zone when 2:10:19.480 --> 2:10:20.160 he got killed. 2:10:20.560 --> 2:10:23.200 What he was saying on that record, was he saying 2:10:23.240 --> 2:10:25.680 that that was reality or was he saying, I'm just 2:10:25.760 --> 2:10:26.680 a record. 2:10:26.720 --> 2:10:30.200 It's a Brecord, you know, talking about but just a 2:10:30.280 --> 2:10:32.560 B record, Like if you're gonna set it and you 2:10:32.720 --> 2:10:34.960 setting it yelling West Coast, you shouldn't have set this. 2:10:35.120 --> 2:10:37.840 I knew that was going to turn into a real situation, 2:10:38.520 --> 2:10:38.680 you know. 2:10:39.160 --> 2:10:39.360 Yeah. 2:10:39.440 --> 2:10:42.040 You know I'm not out wrapping you. I'm threatening you. 2:10:42.160 --> 2:10:44.000 I'm talking yeah, and. 2:10:44.080 --> 2:10:44.720 I'm like yo. 2:10:45.000 --> 2:10:47.760 I was like, yo, I mean, are you really even 2:10:47.840 --> 2:10:51.600 to go there? You know, I'm sitting back like who 2:10:51.640 --> 2:10:52.360 I'm supposed to be. 2:10:52.400 --> 2:10:52.960 I'm older. 2:10:53.640 --> 2:10:55.600 I'm like, yo, this is this is you know. 2:10:55.840 --> 2:10:57.760 But he wanted me going like yeah, yeah, yeah, this 2:10:57.840 --> 2:11:00.360 is good ship, let's do it. So yeah, this man 2:11:00.680 --> 2:11:03.160 is he saying that he's smash faith. That's what I'm doing. 2:11:03.280 --> 2:11:06.120 You heard but he said that he's sash You heard 2:11:06.200 --> 2:11:09.480 the rec he said it. But was he in the studio? 2:11:09.640 --> 2:11:10.640 Was he saying this is true? 2:11:11.520 --> 2:11:11.720 Wasn't? 2:11:11.800 --> 2:11:13.200 No, No, we didn't get there. 2:11:13.360 --> 2:11:15.680 I just listened to the playback and was like, dog, 2:11:15.800 --> 2:11:20.360 that's I don't know, he's a general too much. 2:11:20.560 --> 2:11:21.280 It's not a good idea. 2:11:21.560 --> 2:11:25.640 Plus I'm cool with New York, Like, yo, you knew 2:11:25.680 --> 2:11:28.800 what it was gonna create absolutely New York though, But 2:11:29.680 --> 2:11:33.640 it was gonna cause a crazy in all all bullshit aside, 2:11:33.800 --> 2:11:36.120 right if you think it, maybe shot you while you're 2:11:36.120 --> 2:11:41.040 making a record street ship right, Okay, so we went there. 2:11:42.000 --> 2:11:45.400 You handle this with a record, okay. But he wasn't 2:11:45.440 --> 2:11:48.120 ready for that, and I wasn't really trying to send 2:11:48.200 --> 2:11:49.880 him on noment. I was just trying to get it, 2:11:50.160 --> 2:11:52.680 get it, come on, man. 2:11:53.120 --> 2:11:57.200 But as an O G should like yes from school. 2:11:57.120 --> 2:11:59.640 Yeah yeah, but but anyway, long story short, you know, 2:12:00.160 --> 2:12:02.600 I love pop. Pop was a good kid. I remember 2:12:02.640 --> 2:12:04.880 one night shot G came and knocked on my door 2:12:05.160 --> 2:12:07.760 and he was like, yo, you need to talk to 2:12:07.880 --> 2:12:09.480 pop and he said, you like one of the only 2:12:09.560 --> 2:12:12.200 people he'll listen to. And they was like, yo, you 2:12:12.280 --> 2:12:14.720 know he gonna he's ain't listening to me at that time. 2:12:14.840 --> 2:12:17.720 So you know, he kind of got caught in the song. 2:12:17.920 --> 2:12:20.080 See when you're when you're not in the LA gang 2:12:20.200 --> 2:12:25.200 scene and you come to l A and they embrace you, Yeah, 2:12:25.280 --> 2:12:30.080 it's you're not necessarily safe, you know, And it wasn't 2:12:30.120 --> 2:12:31.840 where he was supposed to be. Like, you know, you 2:12:32.240 --> 2:12:34.360 you make records, you should be on your way out 2:12:34.400 --> 2:12:36.480 of the game. You shouldn't be making records and then 2:12:36.560 --> 2:12:39.880 going into it, you know, because you're making flyers like 2:12:40.920 --> 2:12:45.880 a stream. Nigga has the power of animinity. Who shot him? 2:12:46.040 --> 2:12:50.000 Pooky Low? Who's Pooky Low? Nobody fucking knows who shot him? 2:12:50.200 --> 2:12:52.480 Iced Tea Iced Ta gonna be on this flyer, He'll 2:12:52.560 --> 2:12:55.360 be right here. You know. You no longer have that 2:12:55.520 --> 2:12:58.680 ability to disappear into the hood. Niggas could pop up 2:12:58.760 --> 2:13:01.120 on you any motherfucker where. So you gotta let that 2:13:01.240 --> 2:13:03.840 ship go. You gotta let that shit go. You're no 2:13:04.000 --> 2:13:06.840 longer in the underworld. Now you're part of the mainstream, 2:13:06.920 --> 2:13:09.240 and you gotta you have to behave like that. 2:13:09.360 --> 2:13:12.600 So did you did you actually see like after that, 2:13:12.880 --> 2:13:15.480 did you see that park was going down the road 2:13:15.680 --> 2:13:17.560 that wasn't necessarily. 2:13:17.240 --> 2:13:20.360 Yeah, it wasn't, you know, it was just not a 2:13:20.480 --> 2:13:23.040 good place to be, uh, you know, but you know 2:13:23.400 --> 2:13:25.400 he was rolling with Sugar. Sugar got him out of 2:13:25.480 --> 2:13:27.760 jails with everybody had turned thy back on the truck 2:13:27.800 --> 2:13:30.040 when he got caught in that mess, Sug came and saved. 2:13:30.160 --> 2:13:33.840 Now, what was your relationship with show Sugar was nw 2:13:34.000 --> 2:13:35.600 A's bodyguard and. 2:13:37.240 --> 2:13:39.200 But yeah, but he rolled with them and being Sugar 2:13:39.280 --> 2:13:44.560 always had a cool cool like understanding no beef because 2:13:44.600 --> 2:13:47.560 we did no business. But you gotta understand, Sugar is 2:13:47.560 --> 2:13:52.280 a football player and he basically had at connections to 2:13:52.400 --> 2:13:55.600 the mob or the mob the cats in his neighborhood 2:13:55.600 --> 2:13:58.760 where he's from, and they were bloods and he surround. 2:13:58.440 --> 2:14:01.920 Himself with a gang of bluzz so that was power 2:14:02.320 --> 2:14:03.000 and and something. 2:14:03.240 --> 2:14:07.240 But then again, my boys they were like, we the 2:14:07.360 --> 2:14:10.680 other side, so that don't matter to us. And I 2:14:10.760 --> 2:14:13.080 got niggas as big, big as Shug, So it's like, 2:14:13.520 --> 2:14:14.160 what's happening? 2:14:14.840 --> 2:14:17.400 And before you fucked me up with that one, my 2:14:17.640 --> 2:14:20.400 boys was the others, like you know, for the rap game, 2:14:20.480 --> 2:14:22.480 all they knew was Sug at one point. 2:14:22.840 --> 2:14:28.640 That's but but but see, I'm not operating as as 2:14:28.720 --> 2:14:40.200 that type of a militia. They got go yeah, you know, yeah, 2:14:40.240 --> 2:14:44.440 but you know, it's like okay, and that's chugging. We 2:14:44.640 --> 2:14:48.600 we everybody was cool, everybody understood everybody. Everybody had their limits. 2:14:48.800 --> 2:14:51.200 But me and Sugar have never shared a negative word. 2:14:51.520 --> 2:14:55.280 He was very respectful in areas and we respect each other. 2:14:55.640 --> 2:14:59.200 We we aren't enemy, so to speak. But then at 2:14:59.240 --> 2:15:03.280 the same time, from two different sides of the gang world, 2:15:03.680 --> 2:15:06.520 you know what I'm saying I'm from a crypt side. Okay, 2:15:06.680 --> 2:15:09.880 So they like, whatever, can I. 2:15:10.000 --> 2:15:17.040 Your question with this is going to a different stuff 2:15:17.040 --> 2:15:21.000 when we talk about beef. What was the deal with you? 2:15:21.320 --> 2:15:24.360 L L said I crushed more dre man Ice Tea girl. 2:15:24.480 --> 2:15:35.800 Well, what happened was, L I had asked that because 2:15:35.840 --> 2:15:44.120 I mean, not that I know of, not that I know, 2:15:45.080 --> 2:15:48.440 because because Ice Tea is a real nigga, I just 2:15:48.480 --> 2:15:50.880 want to that was like that was that was. 2:15:50.960 --> 2:15:52.800 Equivalent to Biggie and parton. 2:15:53.400 --> 2:15:55.400 Yeah, but no that I didn't take it like that. 2:15:55.520 --> 2:15:58.520 What happened was with with with him was he was 2:15:58.640 --> 2:16:01.800 just saying he was the greatest effort ever. And I 2:16:01.960 --> 2:16:04.200 was coming out from the West Coast, and how was 2:16:04.240 --> 2:16:06.640 I going to be able to be taken seriously if 2:16:06.680 --> 2:16:09.040 I let someone say they were the best. So I 2:16:09.200 --> 2:16:11.880 had to wrap my I was just like, fuck, whoever 2:16:12.000 --> 2:16:14.880 you think you are, nigga? You know, I had a 2:16:14.920 --> 2:16:16.960 whole coast on my back. So I was like, let's go. 2:16:17.560 --> 2:16:17.720 Now. 2:16:17.800 --> 2:16:20.800 Whether I thought I could actually beat him rapping whatever, 2:16:21.280 --> 2:16:24.160 but I had to stand my ground, and I thought 2:16:24.200 --> 2:16:26.080 I might have been able to be more clever than him. 2:16:26.080 --> 2:16:30.400 Who knows, but it was no. That shit got shut down. 2:16:30.520 --> 2:16:34.920 Bam. I'd actually shut down that wrap beef because damn 2:16:34.959 --> 2:16:38.440 because June, because l L wanted to be part of Zulu. 2:16:39.440 --> 2:16:42.400 And there was a moment where they were asking me, 2:16:42.520 --> 2:16:44.400 and I'm like, well, if it's up to me, you know, 2:16:44.600 --> 2:16:46.280 me and him, it's kind of beef and and ship. 2:16:46.680 --> 2:16:50.000 But at the end of the day, cool, yeah, because 2:16:50.000 --> 2:17:00.640 Africa Islam put me in the game. I'm catching on 2:17:00.720 --> 2:17:04.040 them right, so so l you know, but it was 2:17:04.160 --> 2:17:06.240 just record ship. It wasn't. It was just he was 2:17:06.240 --> 2:17:09.360 a better rapper. Wasn't threatening each other's lies and ship 2:17:09.440 --> 2:17:10.880 and all that. And I did this and that, and 2:17:11.000 --> 2:17:14.240 I think he said I took the record the thing 2:17:14.360 --> 2:17:15.600 to the bathroom or whatever. 2:17:15.920 --> 2:17:19.199 But you know whatever, you know that's not ground some murder. 2:17:21.760 --> 2:17:24.480 So now that you're both like TV. 2:17:24.360 --> 2:17:28.680 By storm like yeah, both the rapes. 2:17:29.800 --> 2:17:32.640 That, how does that? I ran into L and Monte Carlo. 2:17:33.800 --> 2:17:35.360 We were doing what's up? 2:17:35.680 --> 2:17:37.080 What's up? All right? 2:17:37.240 --> 2:17:44.199 To see all right, what's going on over. 2:17:47.480 --> 2:17:50.640 Ben Zenos in the I was watching TV. I saw 2:17:50.680 --> 2:17:54.279 you get shot on TV. I was like, your relatives 2:17:54.320 --> 2:17:58.280 shot you crazy? Shot? 2:17:58.879 --> 2:18:08.120 That's crazy. Let's get this. 2:18:08.720 --> 2:18:12.400 We went we went money Carlos doing a television convention, 2:18:13.320 --> 2:18:16.120 and uh I chopped it up with L L. And 2:18:16.360 --> 2:18:18.640 you know it was like yo, man at the back 2:18:18.680 --> 2:18:20.320 in them days, this is what we had to do. 2:18:20.560 --> 2:18:23.520 We had to stay in our ground, no disrespect, and 2:18:23.600 --> 2:18:26.240 we shook and everything. But I had this recently. This 2:18:26.360 --> 2:18:27.640 happened maybe five years ago. 2:18:28.000 --> 2:18:29.560 Up to that point, I had n't crossed the L 2:18:29.680 --> 2:18:31.600 L's path, nothing like that whole time. 2:18:32.480 --> 2:18:34.240 We don't have to. You know, we live in different 2:18:34.280 --> 2:18:35.440 coasts and you know. 2:18:35.720 --> 2:18:35.800 But. 2:18:37.959 --> 2:18:41.320 Hollywood didn't bring you all like like what about you? 2:18:41.800 --> 2:18:45.800 What about mod? Did you cross? I love no when 2:18:45.840 --> 2:18:49.640 that happened, did you ever we gotta? It wasn't. 2:18:49.680 --> 2:18:50.680 It wasn't. 2:18:50.720 --> 2:18:51.760 It wasn't that serious. 2:18:52.240 --> 2:18:54.960 It was rap ship. It was rap ship. It was 2:18:55.080 --> 2:18:57.440 never that serious. It was just like I could rap 2:18:57.480 --> 2:18:58.000 better than you. 2:18:58.160 --> 2:19:03.480 Know, as a as a young dude coming up and 2:19:03.560 --> 2:19:06.080 then as a young dude coming up like embarrassment. 2:19:06.240 --> 2:19:10.480 Come on, man, lies that young dude coming up right, 2:19:11.000 --> 2:19:13.280 So I see you like you? You you were that 2:19:13.440 --> 2:19:15.680 soldier boy fors rap. You're like, yo, that ain't real 2:19:15.800 --> 2:19:17.160 hip hop or whatever, blah blah blah. 2:19:17.680 --> 2:19:20.280 Like I agree with you because I come up under 2:19:20.400 --> 2:19:22.640 seeing nigg upon the North. I know, real hip hop, 2:19:22.720 --> 2:19:25.520 but I'm taking it as like he's a young boy 2:19:25.720 --> 2:19:28.039 coming up trying to use a platform just to make it. 2:19:28.080 --> 2:19:29.960 Out the hood. So it's like I feel like if 2:19:30.000 --> 2:19:32.039 I was him, like I'll be hurt to. 2:19:32.120 --> 2:19:33.840 Hear that first, because like I look up to you, like, 2:19:34.080 --> 2:19:35.240 why are you gonna shit on me? 2:19:35.320 --> 2:19:37.640 I'm just trying to make it out feed my fan. Okay, 2:19:37.879 --> 2:19:39.040 there's a backstory to that. 2:19:39.200 --> 2:19:40.080 This is what happened. 2:19:40.240 --> 2:19:42.800 This is why we were talking about phones off and cameras. 2:19:42.840 --> 2:19:45.360 So we were I was making a mixtape for one 2:19:45.440 --> 2:19:47.880 of my homemies in the hood, right, This dude just 2:19:48.200 --> 2:19:51.400 a regular nigga. I'm on his wrap rapping for him 2:19:51.560 --> 2:19:54.280 free right. So when I get into the booth, the 2:19:54.440 --> 2:19:57.720 niggas start like like saying, niggas don't want to hear you. 2:19:57.920 --> 2:19:59.160 They want to see Soldier boy. 2:19:59.240 --> 2:20:01.360 They want to they pumping me up then using this 2:20:01.440 --> 2:20:02.520 ship to get me hot. 2:20:02.879 --> 2:20:04.360 They're like, yeah, they don't want to hear you. Nigga 2:20:04.400 --> 2:20:08.720 didn't want Hurricane Chris nigga. They hit my g bone. 2:20:08.800 --> 2:20:12.840 I'm like, whack ass motherfuckers, And I went on a 2:20:13.000 --> 2:20:15.640 rant and I licked you up. 2:20:15.760 --> 2:20:18.240 I went on a ramp and the niggas taped it 2:20:19.400 --> 2:20:20.880 and put it out and put it on in the 2:20:20.959 --> 2:20:24.120 front of their mixtape. So I'm in fuck them. So 2:20:24.280 --> 2:20:26.200 that was That was one of my iced t old 2:20:26.280 --> 2:20:28.760 man rants. It was he was never supposed to hurt it. 2:20:28.959 --> 2:20:32.040 So now I'm in Arizona mine and my business. My 2:20:32.160 --> 2:20:34.760 son goes soldier boys on the internet talking shit about you. 2:20:35.879 --> 2:20:38.520 So I'm like, what so pearing that they playing the 2:20:38.600 --> 2:20:42.760 tape back keep listening. So now I'm like, well, I 2:20:42.879 --> 2:20:46.080 can't back down. I did say this ship yea. So 2:20:46.240 --> 2:20:48.840 now I'm out there, so let me verify, let me 2:20:49.200 --> 2:20:50.880 break down what I said. And I just told the 2:20:50.920 --> 2:20:53.920 nigga break straight up, nigga, this is how I feel 2:20:54.240 --> 2:20:56.960 blah blah blah blah blah and what and then rest 2:20:57.080 --> 2:20:57.560 is history. 2:20:57.879 --> 2:21:01.320 But at the time, I felt the bar was starting 2:21:01.360 --> 2:21:01.800 to drop. 2:21:02.440 --> 2:21:04.600 And I just think that once again, there needs to 2:21:04.640 --> 2:21:07.320 be a degree of difficulty in hip hop that always 2:21:07.400 --> 2:21:09.840 has been there and that's what makes it something special. 2:21:10.160 --> 2:21:12.920 There's something about a star. A star is something you 2:21:13.040 --> 2:21:15.400 can't reach. That's why Michael Jordan is a star. You 2:21:15.560 --> 2:21:16.160 can't reach it. 2:21:16.200 --> 2:21:17.440 And that's why we look up to him. 2:21:17.600 --> 2:21:20.200 But when you're doing something that everybody can do, you 2:21:20.400 --> 2:21:23.320 not really a start and doing what anybody can do, 2:21:23.760 --> 2:21:26.680 show me something I can't do, and you get to praise. 2:21:26.840 --> 2:21:29.000 So you know, God blessed soldier boy. But you know 2:21:29.920 --> 2:21:34.959 this is what I do know. Niggas will end up 2:21:35.000 --> 2:21:37.600 in their own ship if that's what they deserve. So 2:21:38.040 --> 2:21:41.760 now you're seeing this guy and looking where. 2:21:41.600 --> 2:21:43.920 His life is. You see them saying, so. 2:21:46.280 --> 2:21:49.840 You you don't really gotta do nothing to nobody. They 2:21:49.920 --> 2:21:52.320 gonna end up where they're supposed to be because of 2:21:52.400 --> 2:21:53.080 their actions. 2:21:53.600 --> 2:21:56.360 So you know, God bless you. But now we want 2:21:56.480 --> 2:21:57.160 to you know, try. 2:21:59.200 --> 2:22:01.320 That's like, that's like if you ever heard about the 2:22:01.400 --> 2:22:05.280 laws of Murphy, what can happen will happen, And that's 2:22:05.280 --> 2:22:07.000 what murphys Murphy. 2:22:07.240 --> 2:22:09.080 And let me just tell you something you want to do. 2:22:09.160 --> 2:22:13.640 Any gang brother, your guy, you know the history in 2:22:13.720 --> 2:22:14.320 this room, man. 2:22:14.280 --> 2:22:18.959 You know said, yeah, you know ice Icey could killed. 2:22:32.840 --> 2:22:33.200 Hold on. 2:22:35.760 --> 2:22:37.720 Whatever it was. It was real because. 2:22:40.200 --> 2:22:42.119 Real ship though, and I respect it because. 2:22:43.440 --> 2:22:46.520 Hold on fare the table I got to spent on you. 2:22:47.879 --> 2:22:50.360 It was real because like like I remember when we 2:22:50.440 --> 2:22:52.920 had the artist call and we was on Timmy Boy 2:22:53.640 --> 2:22:57.280 and When Time and which is now owned by Warner Bros. 2:22:57.360 --> 2:23:00.560 Right right, exactly the same time. But it's crazy because 2:23:00.560 --> 2:23:02.320 it all happened at that time. But when he came 2:23:02.360 --> 2:23:03.880 out with the cop Killer song, you know, we just 2:23:03.920 --> 2:23:06.000 got it down. Tommy Boy grew from Boston, you know, 2:23:06.320 --> 2:23:08.520 got a little single deal. We put a song out 2:23:08.560 --> 2:23:11.000 called one the Chamber. So when the Chamber, we talked 2:23:11.000 --> 2:23:13.520 about two kids who had got killed in Boston, and 2:23:13.560 --> 2:23:15.080 the police got over with it whatever, you know what 2:23:15.120 --> 2:23:17.920 I'm saying, shot shot dude under a car, shot and 2:23:17.959 --> 2:23:19.039 other dude in the back of the head, and they 2:23:19.080 --> 2:23:22.280 got over with it. So we ended up getting dropped 2:23:22.280 --> 2:23:26.640 from Tommy Boy because the Boston Police Patrol's associated had 2:23:26.680 --> 2:23:27.120 suited us. 2:23:27.560 --> 2:23:28.200 So I forgot. 2:23:28.240 --> 2:23:31.400 There was an interview and it was something that I 2:23:31.440 --> 2:23:32.640 fo don't know if you did an interview, if I 2:23:32.760 --> 2:23:35.000 did an interview, and it was just something because since 2:23:35.040 --> 2:23:36.680 he had the cop Kill song and we got with 2:23:36.760 --> 2:23:39.680 the cop that was trying to compare things and it 2:23:39.800 --> 2:23:41.640 was saying that I said, well, as far as I know, 2:23:41.879 --> 2:23:44.840 you know, even though of course I see legend in 2:23:44.879 --> 2:23:47.120 the game, but the song from my understood was kind 2:23:47.160 --> 2:23:49.560 of rock. It was rap rock, you know what I'm saying. 2:23:49.920 --> 2:23:51.480 I said, it was kind of different. I said, you know, 2:23:51.520 --> 2:23:53.080 I said, we didn't. I said, oh, it was just 2:23:53.440 --> 2:23:55.520 a rap song. We was just pretty much talking about 2:23:55.879 --> 2:23:57.480 you know. I mean it was almost like the same thing. 2:23:57.560 --> 2:23:59.560 But we went out and did a show at the 2:23:59.800 --> 2:24:00.680 Earth of an Empathey. 2:24:01.600 --> 2:24:03.760 So it's just the five of us. You know, we 2:24:03.800 --> 2:24:05.360 don't have no security nothing this ship. 2:24:05.440 --> 2:24:07.040 So it was four of us, plus we had this 2:24:07.080 --> 2:24:09.160 little Jamaican nigga that did on the hook for one 2:24:09.160 --> 2:24:10.000 of the songs or whatever. 2:24:10.920 --> 2:24:13.800 So when when when when I had K came with 2:24:14.040 --> 2:24:15.920 mad Man, This was the time I guess where they 2:24:16.040 --> 2:24:19.680 was trying to squash the crypt the truth. He had 2:24:19.720 --> 2:24:22.560 like a hundred niggas with. I'm like so like one 2:24:22.600 --> 2:24:23.480 of the niggas was like, yo, I. 2:24:23.520 --> 2:24:28.240 See over off Man, I said ship sometime I think right, 2:24:28.280 --> 2:24:29.720 I'm like, fuck right, I mean niggas. 2:24:30.320 --> 2:24:33.119 Look on my side of the story was this when 2:24:33.160 --> 2:24:36.240 the ship happened, the word got out that R. S 2:24:36.360 --> 2:24:39.280 O said that we I was the reason they got 2:24:39.480 --> 2:24:42.160 dropped right right right. But that's that's how it came 2:24:42.280 --> 2:24:44.240 at me. So they was like your r s O 2:24:44.400 --> 2:24:46.560 said something about you act the way so like like 2:24:46.680 --> 2:24:49.640 I was telling them in my I keep every winter 2:24:49.760 --> 2:24:51.960 breast of who he might have beef, this, that and 2:24:52.000 --> 2:24:52.240 the other. 2:24:52.440 --> 2:24:53.280 So I think r RS. 2:24:53.360 --> 2:24:55.360 So it popped up on our radar, like kid, it's 2:24:55.480 --> 2:24:58.200 rs OL. Niggas says some fly. So then I'm at 2:24:58.240 --> 2:25:02.080 the place and they go there, they go right. But 2:25:02.200 --> 2:25:04.640 we felt it though, because I was like, look, I said, look. 2:25:04.520 --> 2:25:07.080 I said, look, I said, man, I said, we gotta 2:25:07.080 --> 2:25:10.560 stay together, and said nobody wants nobody run. 2:25:11.080 --> 2:25:13.480 I'm giving a fuck what happens. We're gonna get mopped 2:25:13.560 --> 2:25:16.800 up together. Somebody run. We got a problem. Like the niggas. 2:25:17.040 --> 2:25:19.039 The little Jamaican nigga was like, oh, I didn't even 2:25:19.120 --> 2:25:21.360 like he was like, what the fuck did I get myself? 2:25:24.280 --> 2:25:25.520 I'm not even like. 2:25:27.080 --> 2:25:29.760 We wasn't in that mode. They just identified him. 2:25:29.959 --> 2:25:32.039 So I'm walked over to you remember no no, because 2:25:32.480 --> 2:25:34.240 your man came. He was like, I t want holler. 2:25:34.959 --> 2:25:36.320 So I said, I'm gonna go this like I said, 2:25:36.320 --> 2:25:37.880 I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna go talk to 2:25:37.920 --> 2:25:40.000 the old. We went over that top and I never 2:25:40.040 --> 2:25:40.400 forget this. 2:25:40.480 --> 2:25:40.960 And you said that. 2:25:41.040 --> 2:25:43.400 She was like, look, man, I ain't got no beef 2:25:43.440 --> 2:25:45.200 for nothing. He says, Man, you see these nigga that's 2:25:45.240 --> 2:25:47.240 the great street, this, that, and that. I'm looking out. 2:25:47.520 --> 2:25:49.320 I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm looking at it like 2:25:49.600 --> 2:25:51.880 I see it. He's like, man, fuck that. He's like, 2:25:51.959 --> 2:25:53.320 let's go kill some cops together. 2:25:54.800 --> 2:25:58.879 That's what you said. I was like going to the ship, like, look, 2:26:00.040 --> 2:26:03.440 I know my beat is not with you. I beat 2:26:03.480 --> 2:26:04.040 you out with you. 2:26:04.440 --> 2:26:09.160 And also, I never I never, I never really took 2:26:09.560 --> 2:26:13.199 secondhand information. You know, if somebody say you said something, 2:26:13.640 --> 2:26:15.160 then I'm gonna get you and I'm gonna see if 2:26:15.160 --> 2:26:17.800 you'll say it again, you know, because that cause niggas 2:26:17.840 --> 2:26:19.760 get killed over secondhand information. 2:26:19.920 --> 2:26:20.600 It wasn't real. 2:26:20.760 --> 2:26:23.040 So if I can't walk up to Ben and say, yo, 2:26:23.120 --> 2:26:25.160 what's really good? But I was really more or less 2:26:25.280 --> 2:26:28.400 like I ain't mad man. That shit went bad when 2:26:28.600 --> 2:26:30.959 my shit got banned, shit went bad for a lot 2:26:31.040 --> 2:26:34.080 of people, you know, and everybody said it was my fault. 2:26:34.160 --> 2:26:36.640 I'm like, yo, this shit is real, right, we're real. Like, 2:26:36.720 --> 2:26:38.920 so if you guys have had heated at the cops, 2:26:38.959 --> 2:26:41.080 then let's go get down. Because I was always like 2:26:41.160 --> 2:26:43.039 that with niggas. I'm like you so quick you kill 2:26:43.080 --> 2:26:45.959 another homie over an orange soda, but when they come you. 2:26:46.120 --> 2:26:47.960 Run like where's your gangster? 2:26:48.360 --> 2:26:51.600 Still to this day, yeah, they had the American flag 2:26:51.640 --> 2:26:54.560 with all red and blue. Remember the stage turn like 2:26:54.680 --> 2:26:55.320 that was history. 2:26:55.560 --> 2:26:57.439 A lot of people didn't even like that wasn't documented, 2:26:57.520 --> 2:26:59.480 but you had the bloods and clips on stage. 2:26:59.800 --> 2:27:01.800 They had American from a big flag. It was big. 2:27:01.879 --> 2:27:06.240 It's about as many niggas more than here, So it 2:27:06.360 --> 2:27:08.320 was I mean, it was that was an ill moment. 2:27:08.480 --> 2:27:10.640 It was a moment where LA was and I commend 2:27:10.680 --> 2:27:12.320 you for that. That was big to do that that 2:27:12.480 --> 2:27:14.240 that hadn't been done before as far. 2:27:14.160 --> 2:27:16.320 As I knew. You know, I wanted to try to 2:27:16.360 --> 2:27:20.040 get the l A gangs to stop killing each other. 2:27:20.120 --> 2:27:22.600 I still and this is like all in the same gang. Now, 2:27:22.720 --> 2:27:24.720 this is during the ninety two this is the truth? 2:27:25.320 --> 2:27:28.040 Which truth is what's going on that's prior to that? 2:27:28.520 --> 2:27:29.879 And why were you on that record? 2:27:30.360 --> 2:27:30.440 Now? 2:27:30.560 --> 2:27:34.240 That was after I was. I was, after all in 2:27:34.320 --> 2:27:34.920 the same game. 2:27:35.000 --> 2:27:36.920 But you was the reason Boston started. 2:27:37.360 --> 2:27:40.760 When Colors came out, That's when everything started forgetting about 2:27:40.879 --> 2:27:45.320 After Colors came everything started was everything started going like 2:27:45.760 --> 2:27:47.760 in take of Boston when Colors came out. 2:27:48.120 --> 2:27:50.840 Then that's when really I noticed Boston started ganging up. 2:27:51.120 --> 2:27:53.160 You know what I'm saying. It was right after Colors Colors, like, 2:27:54.240 --> 2:27:56.200 I mean, niggas beefing the movie theaters. Nigga was going 2:27:56.280 --> 2:27:57.480 crazy when that ship came out. 2:27:57.480 --> 2:27:59.360 You know. You know the thing of it is with me, man, 2:27:59.400 --> 2:28:02.960 that's like, oh d I'm responsible for a lot of 2:28:03.080 --> 2:28:06.480 negative ship that happened. But really I've always been the 2:28:06.560 --> 2:28:09.320 person that's really tried to get peace. You know, at 2:28:09.320 --> 2:28:12.879 the end of the day, my message can be misconstrued, 2:28:13.080 --> 2:28:15.680 you know, because I can go into that mode, but 2:28:16.560 --> 2:28:19.280 that's not really my get down. My get down is 2:28:19.400 --> 2:28:21.480 not that. And when people meet me, they go, wow, 2:28:21.520 --> 2:28:24.520 you so mild, managed you so cool? You know, where 2:28:24.560 --> 2:28:26.920 do all this gangster shit come from? I say, Well, 2:28:27.520 --> 2:28:29.840 people like me are the ones you gotta look out for. 2:28:31.000 --> 2:28:33.040 The nigga walking around talking all tough and shit like that, 2:28:33.440 --> 2:28:35.360 he doesn't have any power. That's why I don't understand 2:28:35.360 --> 2:28:37.039 why Donald Trump, now that he has all this part, 2:28:37.080 --> 2:28:44.400 needs to kind of fuck because when you have that ability, 2:28:44.520 --> 2:28:47.160 then you don't need to raise your voice on Twitter. 2:28:47.440 --> 2:28:52.080 You can just become calm because it's it's nothing. 2:28:52.080 --> 2:28:54.440 You know, so yeah, you know a lot now. Niggas 2:28:54.440 --> 2:28:56.680 see me now and I'm not the normal rapper. They like, 2:28:56.879 --> 2:29:00.480 why you ain't. Yeah, I'm like, I don't, don't need to. 2:29:00.480 --> 2:29:00.960 Be like that. 2:29:02.160 --> 2:29:05.039 That's all that extra ship right then that's over. It's 2:29:05.400 --> 2:29:08.280 it's a different life, it's different time, but the same 2:29:08.360 --> 2:29:10.480 ship can happen. Niggas can bring the grammy. 2:29:12.000 --> 2:29:16.600 I just want to I just want to do, you know, appreciation. 2:29:17.240 --> 2:29:20.400 I've seen my brother ching bing is here, my brother 2:29:20.480 --> 2:29:24.439 bach shows here. I just want to diego Benzino. 2:29:24.560 --> 2:29:27.720 It's a great podcast going on right Ice, Team. 2:29:29.320 --> 2:29:29.560 Ice. 2:29:29.760 --> 2:29:30.800 I can't thank you enough. 2:29:30.840 --> 2:29:33.160 I can never thank you enough for anything you ever did, 2:29:33.280 --> 2:29:36.800 because you know what, I could never repay you for 2:29:36.920 --> 2:29:37.760 anything you ever did. 2:29:37.879 --> 2:29:44.280 Me tell you something for the baking too, man, I 2:29:44.320 --> 2:29:47.199 can never repay you for anything you ever did to mereak. 2:29:47.360 --> 2:29:49.520 And you know how I repay you with that. 2:29:50.360 --> 2:29:52.400 I repay you with that is because I always do 2:29:52.560 --> 2:29:54.160 something for somebody who could never repay me. 2:29:54.240 --> 2:29:57.200 That's a game. That's real talk paying for its real 2:29:57.320 --> 2:29:58.200 talk paying forward. 2:29:58.280 --> 2:30:01.560 Because you're so big, I can't even it's nothing I 2:30:01.600 --> 2:30:03.440 can ever offer you. I can never offer you money, 2:30:03.640 --> 2:30:05.840 I can never offer you anything. All I can offer 2:30:05.879 --> 2:30:06.680 you is real friends. 2:30:06.720 --> 2:30:07.840 But it's always a treatment. 2:30:07.959 --> 2:30:10.000 Players meet, it's always a treat when you get around 2:30:10.080 --> 2:30:12.640 cats to your own caliber and you can chop it up. 2:30:12.800 --> 2:30:15.920 And it ain't nobody bragging and talking about that unnecessary 2:30:16.000 --> 2:30:19.360 shit because at some point everybody has everything, right, So 2:30:19.440 --> 2:30:22.320 there's nothing to brag about now because we all have everything. 2:30:23.000 --> 2:30:25.680 So now what are you talking about? 2:30:25.800 --> 2:30:26.520 What have you done? 2:30:27.080 --> 2:30:29.640 What are you giving back? You know, that's how really 2:30:29.760 --> 2:30:31.880 wealthy people brag. You know that they talk about how 2:30:31.920 --> 2:30:34.200 much money they gave away. That's not what they have 2:30:34.320 --> 2:30:36.120 because we all got the gats and books. So what 2:30:36.200 --> 2:30:38.040 are you giving I'll give away ten million this year. 2:30:38.080 --> 2:30:39.760 I gave back fifty minutes. That's why. That's how the 2:30:40.000 --> 2:30:42.760 baller's brag. You know, we're still on the niggas side 2:30:42.800 --> 2:30:43.760 trying to get something. 2:30:43.800 --> 2:30:45.520 You know what I'm saying. We ain't there yet. 2:30:45.959 --> 2:30:49.040 But my thing is if Ice Tea is really just 2:30:49.120 --> 2:30:51.800 a person that is trying to show people there's no limits. 2:30:52.320 --> 2:30:54.840 Everywhere you want to go, you can do it. We 2:30:54.959 --> 2:30:58.280 all come from the hood and you set your own limits. 2:30:58.520 --> 2:31:00.400 You know, if you listen to the crowd, gonna end 2:31:00.480 --> 2:31:03.360 up with them. You did, you can just do whatever 2:31:03.440 --> 2:31:06.120 the fuck you want. And uh, you know, you just 2:31:06.200 --> 2:31:08.440 got to drop a lot of that negative ship. You 2:31:08.560 --> 2:31:11.400 just got to drop a lot of that boisterous, arrogant 2:31:11.480 --> 2:31:12.600 shit to get you shot. 2:31:13.040 --> 2:31:13.600 And you get you. 2:31:13.959 --> 2:31:16.760 You just learn the mellow out. And all of us 2:31:16.840 --> 2:31:19.000 in this room should live as long as we want. 2:31:19.080 --> 2:31:20.080 We shouldn't go to prison. 2:31:20.200 --> 2:31:20.960 All that we pass it. 2:31:21.000 --> 2:31:23.440 Once you get out of your twenties, that's the kill 2:31:23.560 --> 2:31:25.080 zone right there. If you make it out of that, 2:31:25.600 --> 2:31:30.360 there's no Now you're og. So here's the playing Xbox Nordy. 2:31:30.440 --> 2:31:30.960 That's all I do. 2:31:31.120 --> 2:31:35.160 I play one year old. Let me just say this, 2:31:35.920 --> 2:31:37.600 this right, got a one year old on. 2:31:37.760 --> 2:31:41.760 Here's a problem is they never expected us to make 2:31:41.840 --> 2:31:45.879 twenty one. Now after we make past twenty five, now 2:31:45.959 --> 2:31:48.560 they call us a OG. But back in the days, 2:31:48.800 --> 2:31:51.119 they used to call you a OG after thirty five. 2:31:51.160 --> 2:31:56.040 Forty, But now they call you a OG twenty. Is 2:31:56.120 --> 2:31:59.720 that messing up all community? I'm out of too, g 2:32:00.280 --> 2:32:03.200 understand this, man, I'm on hold, I'm on another channel, right, 2:32:03.360 --> 2:32:06.240 I'm on the channel it. It's cause niggas I fuck with, 2:32:07.520 --> 2:32:09.600 I like, and that's the only people I care about. 2:32:09.640 --> 2:32:10.520 Can you send me that app? 2:32:10.680 --> 2:32:11.200 Yeah, you want? 2:32:14.160 --> 2:32:15.080 Anything else is. 2:32:15.240 --> 2:32:17.440 Relevant, and they can come up and they can learn. 2:32:17.640 --> 2:32:19.480 If they don't want to take advice, they can learn 2:32:19.520 --> 2:32:21.520 the way we learn. You did. What I'm saying might 2:32:21.600 --> 2:32:24.959 have to make detoy through the penitentiary, but they gonna 2:32:24.959 --> 2:32:25.600 figure it out. 2:32:25.879 --> 2:32:26.000 Then. 2:32:26.040 --> 2:32:28.160 If I funk with niggas, I funk with and that's 2:32:28.160 --> 2:32:35.240 the only Let me just tell you something. I can 2:32:35.360 --> 2:32:38.000 never thank you for anything you ever. 2:32:37.959 --> 2:32:38.440 Did for me. 2:32:38.640 --> 2:32:40.520 That's really and you continue to do it for me. 2:32:41.320 --> 2:32:42.680 You have never fronted on me. 2:32:43.320 --> 2:32:48.120 I really really appreciate everything. I really love you as 2:32:48.160 --> 2:32:50.560 a person. I love you as an artist. You already 2:32:50.600 --> 2:32:50.760 know that. 2:32:50.920 --> 2:32:54.439 I know. I can guarantee you when we go downstairs, 2:32:54.600 --> 2:32:56.640 I can probably know more lyrics than you know to 2:32:56.720 --> 2:32:57.280 your own ship. 2:32:57.320 --> 2:32:59.920 Stop it. No, no, no, no, that was. 2:33:01.600 --> 2:33:04.680 Because the way he called his verses. No, he really knows. 2:33:05.840 --> 2:33:06.680 I'm not gonna take that. 2:33:08.360 --> 2:33:10.640 At the end of the day, Ice Team, big up 2:33:10.680 --> 2:33:11.800 to your beautiful wife, Coachy. 2:33:11.959 --> 2:33:13.760 Yeah, everything is good. We're not gonna ask you no 2:33:13.879 --> 2:33:16.039 Coco questions and none of that right. You know why 2:33:16.080 --> 2:33:21.640 this is hip hop right? So to me, well, you 2:33:21.920 --> 2:33:22.200 love it. 2:33:22.760 --> 2:33:24.840 You open that door, You open that. 2:33:24.920 --> 2:33:30.880 Door, you open that door. 2:33:32.240 --> 2:33:38.360 Sorry, but your wife, Chanelle is in the building. I 2:33:38.400 --> 2:33:41.599 got a one year old daughter, look y'all beautiful. 2:33:42.800 --> 2:33:43.760 Like you. 2:33:44.760 --> 2:33:45.360 I was happy. 2:33:45.600 --> 2:33:46.120 I'm happy. 2:33:46.360 --> 2:33:49.360 I'm just very fortunate to still be here, to still 2:33:49.400 --> 2:33:51.240 be in the game. I never wanted to be at 2:33:51.280 --> 2:33:52.920 the top of the game. I just always wanted to 2:33:53.000 --> 2:33:55.440 be in the game. Just bubble, you know, and just chill. 2:33:55.680 --> 2:33:58.680 I'm about to turn fifty nine. You know, I didn't 2:33:58.680 --> 2:34:02.560 know that, Nigga. I'm standing the waist, handsome in the face, 2:34:02.640 --> 2:34:03.039 nig you know. 2:34:03.080 --> 2:34:03.400 What to do. 2:34:03.920 --> 2:34:14.160 I'm not gonna know you for fifty one. So so 2:34:14.400 --> 2:34:16.920 just from that age, just from my age. 2:34:16.800 --> 2:34:18.800 My perspective is going to be a little bit deep. 2:34:18.840 --> 2:34:20.920 Of course, the people I grew up with is a 2:34:21.000 --> 2:34:23.200 little bit different. So that's kind of like, you know, 2:34:23.320 --> 2:34:25.280 you say you cut from a different cloth. I'm cut 2:34:25.360 --> 2:34:30.200 from a different cloth. So I hold that code that 2:34:30.480 --> 2:34:33.320 all that I've always held it. And I was telling 2:34:33.400 --> 2:34:36.040 them earlier, the only thing you leave on earth is 2:34:36.120 --> 2:34:40.360 your your reputation and respect that I've earned. 2:34:40.760 --> 2:34:41.480 So my kids. 2:34:42.040 --> 2:34:51.080 Forget the money, Jack Thriller, were coming down, you're. 2:34:50.160 --> 2:34:52.800 Telling me, But I'm in it like this, right. 2:34:53.240 --> 2:34:56.240 The only thing that that you have in life is 2:34:56.400 --> 2:34:59.960 your name and your respect and your honor and my kids. 2:35:00.000 --> 2:35:01.840 It's regardless how much money I can live. And it 2:35:01.920 --> 2:35:02.400 doesn't matter. 2:35:02.720 --> 2:35:05.000 If my son says I'm a little ice and they 2:35:05.080 --> 2:35:08.440 say your father was a sucker, then that's his life. 2:35:08.520 --> 2:35:11.560 He's gonna live under that. So if I'm an honorable cat, 2:35:11.920 --> 2:35:13.720 people are gonna look out for him. They're gonna go, 2:35:13.920 --> 2:35:15.879 that's your dad, you know, the same way we look 2:35:15.879 --> 2:35:17.800 out for Biggs kids, the same way we look out 2:35:17.959 --> 2:35:20.600 And that's what I'm all about. It's by maintaining my 2:35:21.240 --> 2:35:24.880 respect and my honor for my kids. That's all. It 2:35:24.920 --> 2:35:27.600 ain't about the money. It's not that that shit, you know, 2:35:27.720 --> 2:35:29.840 all that shit comes and goes. It's all about that. 2:35:29.879 --> 2:35:31.880 As long as you a player has his health and 2:35:31.959 --> 2:35:35.280 his freedom, anything can happen. Right. If you have your 2:35:35.360 --> 2:35:37.800 health and your freedom, that's all that matters. So I'm 2:35:37.840 --> 2:35:41.240 at home playing Xbox, eating cockos. I take my black 2:35:41.280 --> 2:35:43.560 ass the law and order. I come back home. I 2:35:43.680 --> 2:35:45.960 mod my motherfucking business. I'm trying to stay the fuck 2:35:46.000 --> 2:35:48.080 out the way. I don't want to be on your blogs, 2:35:48.080 --> 2:35:50.640 and none of that old bullshit pop out when I've 2:35:50.680 --> 2:35:53.600 got something to sell. When i'm pushing something other than that, 2:35:54.040 --> 2:35:58.360 I'm cool. I'm chilling because we all got everything we need. 2:35:58.520 --> 2:36:01.920 Remember this, we all got every thing we need. It's 2:36:01.959 --> 2:36:05.040 all about now what you want? And I can't tell 2:36:05.080 --> 2:36:06.840 you what you want. We got what we need. What 2:36:06.879 --> 2:36:08.880 do you need? A pair of pants and shoes, a 2:36:09.000 --> 2:36:10.400 car and rent and food. 2:36:10.480 --> 2:36:14.360 That's all you need. Everything else is what you want, right, 2:36:14.440 --> 2:36:17.640 That's all you need. But we got that. So your 2:36:17.680 --> 2:36:18.879 life is based around. 2:36:18.640 --> 2:36:20.920 What you want and and and you don't know what 2:36:21.040 --> 2:36:21.360 I want. 2:36:21.640 --> 2:36:30.120 I might just want to chill and watch TV from 2:36:30.240 --> 2:36:32.640 from the bottom of my heart. And I'm gonna speak 2:36:32.640 --> 2:36:36.080 for my partner as well, both partners. It's kind of awkward. 2:36:37.280 --> 2:36:51.520 This is a religious experience. Attention, but half for all 2:36:51.600 --> 2:36:51.880 of us. 2:36:52.920 --> 2:36:55.120 We want to thank you because you know what and 2:36:55.200 --> 2:36:58.760 then and we also understand that you had started your podcast, 2:36:59.400 --> 2:37:01.600 you had dig your podcast, but you need to stop 2:37:01.720 --> 2:37:03.320 that and come with drink Champs. 2:37:03.120 --> 2:37:06.119 Network fucking with you did I did fifty nine episode. 2:37:06.680 --> 2:37:09.120 This is what we're doing. I am Shug Night and 2:37:09.240 --> 2:37:12.560 puff Daddy together. I love it if they had never 2:37:12.680 --> 2:37:14.880 had bet if Sugar Knight and Puff Daddy got together, 2:37:15.080 --> 2:37:26.960 this is what drink chat Blackford iss come on to 2:37:27.000 --> 2:37:27.800 do it all myself. 2:37:30.040 --> 2:37:32.480 I said, thank you so much because you know why 2:37:32.879 --> 2:37:34.280 I security. 2:37:34.720 --> 2:37:37.240 There really isn't no other platform of hip hop. 2:37:37.400 --> 2:37:41.440 No, we will give real talk, but not only that, 2:37:41.600 --> 2:37:46.960 we praise our legend, right because every time in our game, 2:37:47.720 --> 2:37:52.000 after you get ten years, you're finished. And in every 2:37:52.080 --> 2:37:55.920 other music or genre of anything, after you get ten years, 2:37:55.959 --> 2:37:58.200 you're a legend. Well come on, man, when you get 2:37:58.240 --> 2:38:01.520 ten years and hip hop saying you oh it, and 2:38:01.600 --> 2:38:02.440 we don't want to do that. 2:38:02.520 --> 2:38:05.280 But here that's another place, you know. My I mean, 2:38:05.480 --> 2:38:08.000 if I met George Clinton, I know George Clinton. We've 2:38:08.000 --> 2:38:11.400 got telling much money, he got break. He's motherfucking George 2:38:11.480 --> 2:38:13.200 Clinton absolutely got it, you know. 2:38:13.320 --> 2:38:14.840 And that's how I mean. You know, I'm not a 2:38:14.959 --> 2:38:19.840 digtional swoots. Just so you know that you are George 2:38:19.879 --> 2:38:27.840 Clinton and hip hop makes you you may the kids. 2:38:28.160 --> 2:38:29.000 This this my kids. 2:38:29.040 --> 2:38:33.120 This is my children, all all of them. They might 2:38:33.200 --> 2:38:35.600 not look like it, they all my children. That's dope. 2:38:35.720 --> 2:38:39.400 That's all my but you are the George Clinton of 2:38:39.560 --> 2:38:42.000 our hip hop and we're gonna continue to praise you. 2:38:42.520 --> 2:38:45.400 Keep you alive. Come on, make sure thank you God. 2:38:45.480 --> 2:38:47.840 Damn I see makes him no drink Camp. 2:38:49.640 --> 2:38:52.959 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts 2:38:53.000 --> 2:38:55.840 and executive producers n O r E and d j 2:38:56.040 --> 2:38:56.600 e f N. 2:38:57.760 --> 2:38:58.840 Listen to Drink Champs on. 2:38:58.879 --> 2:39:03.840 Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 2:39:04.959 --> 2:39:07.360 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 2:39:07.440 --> 2:39:10.120 hosted by yours truly, dj e FN and n O 2:39:10.280 --> 2:39:12.320 r E. 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