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Speaker 1: What's something y'all was going on BROD Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey Hanks agree, that is

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Speaker 2: That's right?

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Speaker 1: What he good be hoping?

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Speaker 2: He's still boy?

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Speaker 1: What Up?

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Speaker 2: Is dj E f N? And this is gonna take

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Speaker 2: a crazy.

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Speaker 4: Wall Radio black drink.

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Speaker 2: He's a utainer Crazy Roll Radio. I did that on purpose.

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Speaker 2: I thought somebody would say no, but nobody's the same thing.

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Speaker 4: So we have hands down my favorite o G A

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Speaker 4: person that every time I call him, he responds he

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Speaker 4: he's never been Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: He's never played this Hollywood game.

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Speaker 4: As he was coming here, I told all my friends,

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Speaker 4: I said, listen, they said, you know I you know

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Speaker 4: what I said, Ice gonna come doub low and walk

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Speaker 4: up byself. Absolutely, it's exactly who he is. He's been

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Speaker 4: like that ever since I ever knew him. And he

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Speaker 4: continues to be the realest person. I. I strive every

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Speaker 1: To be like this man.

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Speaker 2: When I'm you know, have that many years in this game,

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Speaker 2: I would like to be like this stout.

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Speaker 1: Stop it.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't have Twitter, you should get Twitter

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Speaker 4: just to follow this man at final level.

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Speaker 2: He drops the daily game every day. I'm always watching.

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Speaker 2: I always suspect it.

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Speaker 4: And in case you guys do not know who is

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Speaker 4: in the building right now, we got the legendary motherfucking

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Speaker 4: ice tea in the building makes something?

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Speaker 2: What's that were down?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 2: Look at our bottles?

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Speaker 4: Look but this is That's one of the first questions

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Speaker 4: I have is because most people that have the experience,

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Speaker 4: go what happened to the life.

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Speaker 2: EXPERI I look like, what's set up?

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 4: Ogs in the game that has been in the game

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Speaker 4: as long as you have are.

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Speaker 2: Not social media savvy.

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Speaker 4: They're not on Instagram, they're not on Twitter, they're not

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Speaker 4: on these uh ways that their fans can actually hit you.

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Speaker 2: Why did you feel that you embrace social media?

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, you know when I when I when

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Speaker 1: Shiney Shine ran the fan club, and it was very

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Speaker 1: at out. I wasn't really into Facebook. I don't have

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Speaker 2: It, Norrie one.

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Speaker 1: I like to let people know, but I'm very private too,

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Speaker 1: and I know that social media is the number one

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Speaker 1: tool of law enforcement. Not that I'm breaking the law anymore,

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Speaker 1: but you just given giving them a fucker so much

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Speaker 1: information about yourself. And all the people that watch you

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Speaker 1: on social media aren't necessarily your friends. Your enemies could

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Speaker 1: be laying in it right there too and pop up

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Speaker 1: you know. So I got into Twitter, and I liked

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Speaker 1: feeling I mean I block you though. If you say anything,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh you think we that much? Friends block?

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Speaker 1: You know now that I learned the mute button, it's

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Speaker 2: Teach us how to so they know they don't get

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Speaker 1: They like it. Oh yeah, I got ice tea to block,

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Speaker 2: You didn't so I just mute you and then you

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Speaker 2: think you still talking to me, but no longer. Let's

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Speaker 2: So now I want you to take me because a

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Speaker 4: They criticized this era, and now that they considered me

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Speaker 4: a ogy, I sort of criticized this era, but the

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Speaker 4: realist era, a lot of people say the nineties, but

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Speaker 4: the realist era was actually the era that took place

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Speaker 4: before the nineties, when you had the self destruction, you

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Speaker 4: had late air violence, the late eighties. So I want

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Speaker 4: you to describe to me that, Like, first of all,

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Speaker 4: how in that same vein?

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Speaker 1: Yes, but.

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Speaker 2: When you first got in the game, what year was

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Speaker 1: My first record came out like night well early eighty six,

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Speaker 1: breaking right, yeah, yeah, But I made records with Mellie

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Speaker 1: And you know, I believe that radio and hip hop

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Speaker 1: so you knew you could keep it gainst it, but

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Speaker 1: So there was a degree of difficulty and agree agree

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Speaker 2: I didn't want.

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Speaker 1: People to say yo, I like your beat. I like

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for what man. I was. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was going up north. I was listening to your

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Speaker 4: But now let me ask you, because I'm so you

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Speaker 4: came out before n w A. Yes, so you are

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Speaker 2: Not true.

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Speaker 1: I get the credit to Schoolly Ds Philly, Yes, Schoolly D.

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Speaker 1: Because I was making my records and stuff. But I

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Speaker 1: he was on Angel, Dust like.

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Speaker 2: PSK.

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Speaker 1: I've been around the dust, you know, I know what

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Speaker 1: and Steak dusted and they were looking at you, looking

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Speaker 2: Are you about to stab me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Replace coming out?

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Speaker 1: Look yeah, so so schooly d. So I researched this

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Speaker 1: record and they say, that's PSK, that's park Side Killers,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a Philly game. So he was

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Speaker 1: I was like, Kim, this is the vibe of that song.

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Speaker 1: So when I went in to make six in the Morning,

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Speaker 2: Guys too long Christmas more.

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Speaker 1: Than all right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now all right now now we're looking

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Speaker 1: So, so I used the vibe in the cadences of

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Speaker 2: K making that green? I say, six? Next morning police

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Speaker 1: And and then C said that Boys in the Hood

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Speaker 1: But you know, I talked, I took schoolly D and

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Speaker 1: I made it really graphic. We would we had oozi's

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Speaker 4: I probably got But what I'm trying to say is

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Speaker 4: So what made you say I'm gonna take this chance

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Speaker 2: Because you did six in the morning, but you kept going.

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Speaker 1: But see, the thing of it was like I wasn't

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Speaker 1: would be like, yo, niggas say that shit you be

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Speaker 1: saying because I used to make gang raps.

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Speaker 2: I used to make raps like we do a gang rap.

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Speaker 1: But like this, let's see uh strolling through the city

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, niggas on my left

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Speaker 1: and niggas on my right yelling cut cut rip. That mean, nigga,

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Speaker 1: I see now, if you bad enough, come fuck with me.

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Speaker 1: I seen another nigga. I say crip again. He say,

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Speaker 1: fuck a crip nigga. This is his brim So we

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Speaker 1: pulled out the Roscoe. Roscoe said, crack, I look again.

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Speaker 1: Nigga was shooting back, so we fell to the ground,

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Speaker 1: We walked over to him, took his gun, spitting his face,

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Speaker 1: you bitch ass niggas get hip. This fuck of brim

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Speaker 1: nigga its west Side Rolling sixty cos that's gangster d

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Speaker 1: What year was that? That was in high school?

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Speaker 2: That before?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me tell you something right now. When you

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Speaker 4: go to l A, the most famous gangs.

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Speaker 2: The Rolling six, Yeah it went that cra high school.

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Speaker 2: C Yeah, this hustle.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's from sixties, but I'm I'm from I'm from

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Speaker 1: back in the day with Nelsy and Keeta rocking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, John now you know. But anyway, but

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Speaker 1: I went to Crench, y'all, So y'all had sixties Hoover

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Harlem crips, rolling sixties eight trade, gangster, these

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Speaker 1: Anyway, my nephew man, so the gangster rap cames from

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Speaker 1: really rapping about gangster ship. So my homies was like, Yo,

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Speaker 4: But the point I'm trying to make is because one

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Speaker 4: I was like, I used to listen to your ship

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Speaker 1: To call it a gangster rap, just the reality rap

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Speaker 1: at that point because it wasn't and it wasn't really reality,

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Speaker 2: It was just my reality.

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying, what made you say, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: On the forefront and the world is going to gravitate.

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Speaker 1: I had no idy fucking it didn't have no I

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Speaker 1: Ice is from sixties? Ice is from a Where's ice

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Speaker 4: Back then they said that bloods was light skinned and

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Speaker 1: That was no, no, no, no, really, really, bloods are

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Speaker 1: bloods are brims? Mean, that's the real gang, the real gang.

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Speaker 2: To you is blood. Anything that's not a crip is

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Speaker 1: So so everything else, Like if I'm I'm a seven

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Speaker 1: because that's where you're from, that's what you are. Well,

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Speaker 1: so back to this rap music. So I'm in this

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Speaker 2: To make a music that those people will relate to.

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Speaker 1: So without claiming a set, because you'll notice, no one

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Speaker 1: the truth, even Snoop wasn't wearing all that blue. We

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Speaker 1: Because New York was so powerful, we had to say, well,

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Speaker 1: look that's great, but this is where we're from, right,

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Speaker 1: And we had to rap about our life. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know I was hot until I got a

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Speaker 1: West wanted me to perform up there in the Bay.

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Speaker 2: And that's not film More Slim Filmore Simmer West is

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Speaker 2: is the arena venues, oh venue. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting I'm going there. I'm going there.

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Speaker 1: So we get I get to call. They asked me

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Speaker 1: not popping in La like that, you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: And then San Diego still considered La.

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Speaker 2: That's the Bay, that's a whole nother world. But that's not.

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Speaker 1: That's that's seven hours away. So so I'm like, North Cali.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're not popping there? Why would you go

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Speaker 2: Like you're saying, you know, like how many niggas in

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Speaker 1: But are they popping? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So my record was out.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a ship in l A. I was just

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Speaker 1: this tell us you'll do the show. I sold the

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Speaker 1: sold out. I'm like really, So in other words, I

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Speaker 2: You knew what a sold out show meant at that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they said, no more tickets? They said, would

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Speaker 1: you do another show? They said, they said, what you

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Speaker 1: and the fill more sold out on one song, six

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, this ship could be really big,

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Speaker 1: Like this is real. Now I'm not really making no

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Speaker 1: at that point where you know that dilemma that street

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Speaker 2: But I always, I always wanted out of the game.

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Speaker 2: I didn't I never, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Really like it. I just did it as survival. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I don't drink like I'm an orphan.

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Speaker 1: I have no mother, I have no father, I have

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Speaker 1: no sisters.

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Speaker 2: I read that you was an offhan. I thought I

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Speaker 1: So I always felt liquor or weed or drug would

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Speaker 1: get me. Dig So, I just got to stay on

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Speaker 1: my toes. Dig So, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm in, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: The water is full of sharks, and I got to

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Speaker 1: stay on my toes. You did so, So that's one

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Speaker 4: Just in case you are right right now, Ice, if

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Speaker 4: You got that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been.

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Speaker 1: I've been like I was a designated driver before there

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Speaker 1: was a term.

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Speaker 2: For it, because that's what I'm that's not about to act.

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Speaker 4: So so you mean, even as a child growing up

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Speaker 4: Wu Tang for that, but it was the term Sherm had.

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Speaker 4: It's a West Coast.

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Speaker 1: It's a cigarette to Sherm that you put the PCP on.

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Speaker 2: You never got high, not one, No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was. I've been contact high

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Speaker 1: because I've been in one niggas in studios. But when

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Speaker 1: I was younger, this one cat, I remember, I might

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Speaker 1: While you're tripping right. So now that he I stood

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Speaker 1: He go, he don't get high because if he couldn't

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Speaker 1: make me do it, no one else Why just became

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Speaker 1: Whenever I would walk into a room and there would

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Speaker 1: he got that thing on him and he wonders. That's

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: If you guys have security, you let your security get high. No,

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Speaker 1: so do you got to think about it like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't have security.

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Speaker 2: You feel me so now why I I always ask me, baby,

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 2: I I can't wake the highest security for a while.

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Speaker 2: For years, you just be you like I mean, I

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Speaker 2: remember one time I was shooting the movie. I did

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Speaker 4: I told you to come somewhere at four thirty. You

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Speaker 4: got there at four o'clock and you ain't complaining. You

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Speaker 4: stood there like was supposed to be here.

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Speaker 2: Niggas that make that type of music, we know who

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Speaker 2: is official.

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Speaker 1: I can listen to you. I can listen to Mob Deep,

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Speaker 1: I can listen to different records m P.

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Speaker 2: I love you know. If I'm going.

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Speaker 1: Political, I like dead presidents like that President. I know

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Speaker 1: who and I can I can we through the phony

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Speaker 1: niggas too. I'm like how many bricks you saw? Nigga,

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Speaker 1: you're only sixteen? Really like that's not a possibility that

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Speaker 1: happened like that, Like you know how many shot? How many?

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Speaker 2: So I kind of like could I was. I'm a fan,

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Speaker 1: And then also, like I say, all I have is

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Speaker 1: just set that example. So I don't like being late.

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Speaker 1: I like to stand on my word. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna show up blate to a drive by and niggas

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Speaker 1: say we leaving it six.

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Speaker 2: Nigga, you guys, you can't be shown up late. So

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Speaker 2: these numbers are important.

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Speaker 1: You got to do your numbers.

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Speaker 4: But as a person who don't smoke and don't get high,

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Speaker 4: do you take life too serious?

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Speaker 2: Do you think you take life too serious? A lot

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Speaker 2: of people who do that, not at all. I mean

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Speaker 2: I enjoy life. I see it for where it is.

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Speaker 2: I made it this far.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a more laid back person. I'm just

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Speaker 1: to brag. I don't talk about myself that like in

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00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: that if you don't ask the question, I won't tell you.

442
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, people say, Damn, you're so cool. I'm like, well,

443
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: how you get named Ice?

444
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: Nigga?

445
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: Like really, you know?

446
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 2: Ice is everybody wants to be Ice in the hood.

447
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's a great name. That's

448
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: a very you know.

449
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: People are damn, you could be Ice? Can you be?

450
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: You know? So they gave like bitch and Wyan said, nigga,

451
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: you got that name. Niggas can't take that name from you.

452
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: You went there, you can't take that name from me.

453
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: So you know, can a nigga name Ice be real

454
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: ag all the time and excited and uptight and ship?

455
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: That doesn't work.

456
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 4: Because you set off in my opinion, when when uh,

457
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 4: East Coast we had gangster rap, but it wasn't It

458
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 4: wasn't reality rap. It wasn't you guys had mob style,

459
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: no moms. Something come up before you didn't know, but

460
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 4: after it okay, this trust me. Every gangster.

461
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.

462
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 4: So you and them so so you when I think

463
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 4: a West Coast, I don't think a gangster rap. Your

464
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 4: name is one of the first, if not the first,

465
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: right and and you and you you coined that, so

466
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: did everybody else, kind of gravitated because I believe n

467
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: w A came out, okay.

468
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: But the word gangster rap wasn't out with me.

469
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: The word gangster rap came out, yes, because cube and

470
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: straight out of Compton. He says from a gang called

471
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: niggas with attitudes. He didn't say from a group. He

472
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: said from a gang. So he represented his clique as

473
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: a gang. And then then the pressed coin gangster rap.

474
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: It didn't have a name until they gave it that name,

475
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: but I was But that's why after they did that,

476
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: I said, well, if it's that gangster rap, then I'm

477
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: the original gang you are.

478
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: So that's when it went backwards. Okay, that's now gangs,

479
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: and I'm the old gang. You flipped everybody's wig at

480
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: one point.

481
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: At one point we're sitting back and we see this

482
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: Bishop don Wall, we see these pimps movie, We see

483
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: ice per your ship is slide died and full to

484
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 4: the side, magnetic. And the way you did it and

485
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 4: the way you spoke, we knew that you wasn't fronting.

486
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: We knew that you were will and how the pimps

487
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 4: accepted you. But now it was that the life prior

488
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 4: to your game.

489
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: Again, what thing of it was is I was on

490
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: the streets hustling, so I didn't sell. I tried to

491
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: sell coke once, but then everybody took the money and

492
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: ran off like I gave. I gave it out to

493
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: my friends and they all came back short.

494
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 2: So now I am I supposed to kill my friends.

495
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: What I had left, I was just able to make

496
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: the money that I invested back. I said, I can't

497
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: do this no more. But then when I was in

498
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: the arm, every one of them games, everyone no niggas

499
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: had stories like I'm like, yo, I'm I gonna niggas

500
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: understand this. You know, you give out the dope to

501
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: your friend and he comes back with a story. But

502
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't do this because now I'm supposed

503
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: to enforced.

504
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: But I can't. It's my money.

505
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: So I got out of that. I tried it.

506
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: I had some way exactly invested my money, but it

507
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: didn't work like that. No, I was more.

508
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: We was more basically jewelry store robbers. We was robbing

509
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: jewelry stores, doing things of that nature. But when I

510
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: was in the Army, I got connected to a pimp

511
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: named Machel, and Machel I used to go hang out

512
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: at his house and he said, you cut for this game, nigga.

513
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: You got them light eyes. You not too much turned

514
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: on by the No no, no, no, my buddies. My

515
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 2: buddy in the army.

516
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: His girlfriend's sister was a hum a prostitute. So so

517
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: when his girlfriend army, Oh no, Hawaii is like open season,

518
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, because you have all that military Hawaii. I

519
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: was in the Army.

520
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 2: It was a ranger.

521
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: Soer okay, So so my voice Spicer. You know, I

522
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: don't like using names because I don't know where these

523
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: niggas are at this moment. He might be working for IBM.

524
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm but my boy, Spiceer. His girl was her sister.

525
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, we're gonna go to this

526
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: party this weekend. But but blind we would go over

527
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: there and it was my man Major's house full of holes.

528
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: So he would look at me be like, yo, I

529
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: mean when you mean working prostitutes, you know, working girls

530
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: lawsuits and they were working on the island of Huaihu.

531
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: You've got you have navy, you have Navy, you have

532
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: marines there, and you have army, and those guys only

533
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: have a weekend. They don't have a lot of times

534
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: to create relationship. And then you have a lot of

535
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: tourists there.

536
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: So by saying the US government sence your holes.

537
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying prostitution is accepted in certain houses.

538
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: To keep it everything, it's always.

539
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: Been in the military.

540
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of It's a lot of guys

541
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: on that island, right, so kind of like it was

542
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: a good place to get your pippin. So I'm over

543
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: there and homeboy was just like, yo, you cut for

544
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: this and this, that and the third. And I'm like, yeah,

545
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But I'm in the service.

546
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: And so then when I got home, we was we

547
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: was when we would rob and shit, we had girls.

548
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: We was working plastic. Like these niggas talking about they

549
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: just sliding credit cards. It's an old game. That's an

550
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: old game. Niggas was getting the microfilm and we were

551
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: making the credit cards and we had the military IDs.

552
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: We were printing them and shit, we've been doing that

553
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: ship for years. That's nothing new. This new credit card game.

554
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: Now they got a chip Okay, new game figured that

555
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: one out. Motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass.

556
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: You ain't sliding shipping them, you know how to take

557
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: the credit card sticking that.

558
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: So all these niggas is gonna lose their Gucci belts.

559
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: But anyway, so I'm in that.

560
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: So we we we would always keep females in our

561
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: click and stuff. So eventually I started reading this Iceberg

562
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: slim shit, and I decided I wanted to pimp on

563
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: the bitch.

564
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: You know.

565
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: So my girls was trying to run, They was trying,

566
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: they were looking for they was trying to escape. I remember,

567
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: I just one chick named Mary, So I'm trying to,

568
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, get her out there, like let's go get

569
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: this money and ship like that. And she ran to

570
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: one my partner. It's like, I just pimping on me.

571
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: He's pimping like that.

572
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: And then he come, come me the bitch choosing. I'm like,

573
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: she ain't choosing, nigga, you rest haven for hole to

574
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: get away from the pimping I'm trying to put on.

575
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: But I was close enough. I mean, pimping is not

576
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: very difficult to do. All you just need is a

577
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: girl that's willing to shit and hustle. I wasn't no

578
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: big time pimp like, uh, you know, bishopping them. But

579
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean every other nigga probably donet

580
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: sent the bitch before. I mean just sending a girl

581
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: to perform the actor prostitution and bring you the money.

582
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what pimping is, all right.

583
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: So I dabbled in all types of levels of the game,

584
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: but I was no knockdown, drag out pimp with a catalog.

585
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 4: Let me tell you some very difficult let me tell

586
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 4: you something. Let me take something I watched. Now, I

587
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: watched a couple of other movies, and for a week

588
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: I thought.

589
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: I was a pimp.

590
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: I think it's my wife. This story might get shut down. Yeah,

591
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: that's my wife, love it.

592
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: She's there.

593
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, So what happened was, let me get story.

594
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: I'll heard. Oh I got some great taking pem story.

595
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: Bishop don't want comes.

596
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: To the hood lab, gives me my cup and says you,

597
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: we're one of the famous players of the year War.

598
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know, because I get why

599
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: he's giving me the famous player the year World War.

600
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: But I know I'm not a pimp, like I really

601
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: do that. So girls, look, you're sleeping high. And I

602
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 4: walk into this club and I said, bitch, chew.

603
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said this, and the bitch said, yeah,

604
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: I choose you.

605
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: They all of them pimp Juju, good game, all of

606
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: them kidding me and said, nigga, you don't know what

607
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: you're doing. And it's true, but how does that How

608
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: does a person get into pimp?

609
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, basically, you gotta find a female that's like

610
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: hoose are hose without actually without a pimp. You know,

611
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: every girl knows a girl that thinks that they can

612
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: use that as a method of operating.

613
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: We used to call the strip clip of the indoor.

614
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Track, you know what I'm saying. So it's like they're

615
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: not actually prostitutes, but they're working inside of an element.

616
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: But it's still the anytime you're actually giving somebody some

617
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: type of sexual for money that you don't like them,

618
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: you're prostituting yourself. Even a woman who's going out to

619
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and

620
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that, she's actually prostituting herself. Even in this business,

621
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: sometimes they ask us to do shit that even sexually,

622
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: and you be like Damn, I feel like I'm giving

623
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: up myself for the money, you understand, But I mean,

624
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you get into any game? You know,

625
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: you desire it, you want it, and then you got

626
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: to find willing participants, you know. So I had these

627
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: girls that were thieves and stuff, and I was trying

628
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: to turn them out into being hoes, but they was

629
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: like they were resisting it.

630
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: Shit.

631
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I had I had some crazy story. I

632
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: told one story I told in one of the movies.

633
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: Was me and my partner Gary Burnette, we uh, we

634
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: knock some bra So they was hos from up North

635
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: and stuff.

636
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: So we got on our ship and we in there.

637
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: Pimp took them up in the Bay Area.

638
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: But these bitches was real prostitutes, right, so we want

639
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: to be pimps. Were trying to get out, and well

640
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: we figured that out, so we put yeah. So we

641
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: sent the broad so we like, so Gary tent to

642
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: brough to the casino. He riding behind her in the

643
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: car trying to watch the bitch, and the dude in

644
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: the car sees it starts whooping the bitch ass like

645
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: you got a nigga following me through her out the

646
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: out the motherfucking car.

647
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: She getting the car, like, nigga, how long have you

648
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: been doing this?

649
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Like real?

650
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

651
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: So that night they get back to the hotel, niggas

652
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: go to sleep. They wake up the next day stole

653
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: his car. See the hose. The hose was smarter than

654
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: the players in that situation. So pipping is difficult. And

655
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: and I don't like a lot of stuff that I've

656
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: been through in my life. I don't promote it has

657
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: something to do. I just say it was something that

658
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: I've been through. I'm not able to promote anything all.

659
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: All crime and all hustles are negative at the base

660
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: of them, you know. But you know, at the moment

661
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: you ever see Fargo, well, I quote that line, it

662
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

663
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, in my circumstances what was around me drug dealers, killers, gangsters.

664
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: I thought, well, ship, since I'm flying, I got long hair,

665
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: maybe I should be fucking with these girls. But I

666
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't make no fortune off of that. I made most

667
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: of my money Robin Jury's stores, that Rob jew st

668
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: That's what we did. An occasional bank. But that's what

669
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: that's what my click is. Occasional bank get to.

670
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 6: Now.

671
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: I heard a story, Oh, you and ben Zeno having conflict.

672
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, be Xeno actually being on the West coast, and

673
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: ben Zeno's described it as you having two hundred different

674
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: gang members with you.

675
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: He said you could have actually killed him there.

676
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you walked over now, you walked over to you. Yes,

677
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: the thing of it is killing people is not that simple.

678
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, do you carry that with you forever? So

679
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: you can't just you know a lot of times, you

680
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: know it was a dispatching nigga and you just choose

681
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: not to do you want to sleep with that on

682
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: your head.

683
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: That's not my thing.

684
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: You know. I'll protect myself, but I'm not I'm not

685
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: going to attack a person. So what happened was back

686
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: during the cop killer days. I said both had cop

687
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: killer songs. Recorrect, But we were both on Warner Brothers.

688
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: But he was with a group called Marco Might. So

689
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: what happened was when I pulled out for Warner Brothers

690
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: because the president was after me, and shit got hot

691
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: and I ended up pomp and pulling. The Source magazine

692
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: came down and said Ice is a coward. He gave

693
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: in I'm like, how am I character the president of

694
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: the United States is after me.

695
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: This is real ship.

696
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait, wait wait talking about what you just

697
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: said over the talk about so you just said, wait

698
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: them you just said the cop killer record.

699
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, got hot.

700
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: And then and then the.

701
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: President Bush Bush, son of a Bush, was the son

702
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: of a Bush? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Bush was on

703
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: my ass and so was dan Quail. And they said

704
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: they was after me. They was like, they was, yeah,

705
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: they wanted my head. They Ali North wanted to try

706
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: me for sedition, which is punishable by death.

707
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 2: They was on my bumper.

708
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they was on my bumper for this song cock Killers.

709
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: This was a major situation. So you know, we pulled

710
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: the record off a warner and all the rap niggas

711
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: had something to say about it, like, oh niggas you know,

712
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: giving in now. Chuck Deese stood his ground, said, look,

713
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: if y'all ain't in the war, you shouldn't come in

714
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: on the battles. You don't know what's going on. This

715
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: ship is real. Real secret service pulled my daughter out

716
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: of school and chaskeer was I connected to paramilitary organ

717
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: They wanted to see if I was really a threat. See,

718
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: this is nori. This is the problem. When the president

719
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: says your name, the deepest background check of your life

720
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: happens instantly. They know everything from your shoe side to

721
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: your mother's blood type.

722
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: Why because this next question could be.

723
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: What do we know about him? They can't be he's

724
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: a rapper. They like, this is this, this is this,

725
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: this is this, this is it. It happens instantly, So

726
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: when that happens to you, you feel it. It's a

727
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: long story short. I'm going through this bullshit. So Rs

728
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Benzeno and them come out and make some statement. Your

729
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: ice tease a sucker because he pulled and because he

730
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: pulled that car pulled the record. I pulled the record.

731
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Cop Killer was on the first body Count album. Okay,

732
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: I pulled cop Killer off and put a record called

733
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Freedom of Speech. I did it because I didn't want

734
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: them to pigeonhole me. And in my career right there,

735
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: I got a lot of other shit.

736
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: I need to say. It's not just about this one song.

737
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: They were trying to take a nigga out New jack

738
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: City two didn't happen because of that record. All kinds

739
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: of shit.

740
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: WHOA dude? When I say it was on my shit, whoa?

741
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: It was like you said, it was bigger than rap.

742
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: So Benzino or whoever whatever spokesperson made this comment, Well,

743
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: you know I was.

744
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: I was.

745
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: I was under siege at that point. I didn't need

746
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: no rap niggas popping off like this nigga is that?

747
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: And the third I'm like, nigga don't really even know

748
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: what's going on right. So of course niggas in my circle,

749
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: we knew who our enemies were are. We always keep

750
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: niggas abreasto who's out there. So they popped up on

751
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: our charts like okay, these niggas areso's popping off about

752
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: ice this niggas popping you know, we know who's you know,

753
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: who might not be a friend. So we were at

754
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: an event and uh, there they were and there I was,

755
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: and niggas seen them before me. Niggas like, yo, ain't

756
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: thatt them niggas and uh I want pre internet. Yeah,

757
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: and he saw two hundred niggas. I mean, I don't

758
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: know how many niggas I had, but I was, I

759
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: had the whole West coast with me, you know what

760
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He said, I had the whole West coast

761
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: with me. So I just walked up on him I'm like, yo, man,

762
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: whatever you niggas think I said, it did all this

763
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: robbers uncalled for Man, I did what I had to

764
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: do and it didn't affect y'all. Just all it is.

765
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well and they kind of like renigged.

766
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we was mad, we was hot. It was

767
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: an interview.

768
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: There was really no beef. It was just a missing communication.

769
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: He said.

770
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: It was a miscommunicator. How to speak, and that's what

771
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: real men do. That's what real men do.

772
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: So you know that was it, But I won't but

773
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: I want you to describe this cop Killer record because

774
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: you single handedly made the world.

775
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: Pay attention to rap by this cop Killer record. Now,

776
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: it wasn't now.

777
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: Now it's a record that these young brothers would love

778
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 4: to praise.

779
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: But what made what?

780
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: What?

781
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 5: What?

782
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: What?

783
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: What made you even think about make a great quill record.

784
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: We were in the studio making you know, body count,

785
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: and uh I was singing a song by a group

786
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: called the Talking Head.

787
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: It's called psycho Killer Psychical Killer C.

788
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: So I'm singing that and my drummer, beat Master v

789
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: rest In Peace goes, we need a cop killer right now?

790
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: What you ain't had no police No, we had a

791
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: police people. This is free Rodney King.

792
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: You know, we know what the cops is doing before Rodney. Yeah.

793
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: So my nigga's like, yo, you know, Vicker's right there

794
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: on the front line. So he like, yo, man, we

795
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: need a cop killer. You know. The cops rolled up

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: on such and such, they shot him, They dragged his baby,

797
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: mom's you know, this Dulo ship. And so I started

798
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and I said, yeah, what if somebody

799
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: snapped and this went on one after the cops based

800
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: on police brutality. And that's the hook is cop killer

801
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: is better you than me? Cop killer. Fuck police brutality.

802
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Cop killer. I know your family's grieving. Fuck them, cop killer.

803
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Tonight we get even. And so it was more about

804
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: this guy who lost his mind based around police brutality,

805
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: which just recently happened. Now people actually have started taking

806
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: off on the cops. It took a little while, but

807
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: I predicted it. I wasn't promoting it. I was singing

808
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: the third you know, the first person. I become different

809
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: people in my records. That's just part of the art.

810
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: You know. I could sing. It's like if I was

811
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: a heroin addict and I never been on it, but

812
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I can sing and act like it and give you

813
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: an imagery of it.

814
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: You did so now, But that scrutiny it started from

815
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: the president. The President's started with.

816
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: The Fraternal Order of Police out of Dallas Austin, Texas.

817
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: They came after me because.

818
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: During this no they just said that Warner Brothers put

819
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: out this inflammatory record and they should be banned and boycotted.

820
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: And then Charlton Hesson came out and they just went

821
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: on one. Because of the time, the cops were under

822
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: siege for doing the same shit they doing now. This

823
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: was back then, so the best way to take the

824
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: heat off them is to attack somebody else. So they

825
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing. They

826
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: picked me as a target and so they came down like, dude,

827
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the house, let me date myself. We

828
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: were playing Techno Bowl. Rem me that. So I'm playing

829
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Techno Bowl and Nigga comes one of my homies, like Yo,

830
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: Ice is on TV right now the President is talking

831
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: shit about you.

832
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Were like, what yo really?

833
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: For real? Were like, we changed the channels and it's

834
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: Dan Quail the Vice President and Ice tea Niggas. It

835
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: was like that you ever did want of them old

836
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: shits like oh shit, oh shit, like oh like we knew.

837
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: This was big, and then it just started to happen.

838
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: You know, you could feel them.

839
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: You know that I got tax started it three times

840
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: into two year period. I had ice cream trucks sitting

841
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: in front of my house in the middle of the winter,

842
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, because they had to really figure out was

843
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: I trying to call people to arms, which I wasn't.

844
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: It was just a record. It was just a protest song.

845
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I lived through that and I found

846
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: out who my friends were. You know, they don't care

847
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: about hip hop. Hip Hop can back you, but when

848
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: hip hop backs you, hip hop is one big nigga.

849
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Just it's just one nigga. I don't give a fuck

850
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: how many rappers come to your aid. That's just one nigga.

851
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: You need someone outside of hip hop to back if

852
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: you get in trouble. All the rap could band together.

853
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: We are all just one nigga that you need.

854
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: You need. Maybe Quincy Jones come out. You know who's not.

855
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: Considered a nigga you know something, but yeah, might still

856
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: be considered But no, that's what they'll do when he

857
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: if he came after saying that, well, you know, he's

858
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: a rapper, and they'll throw him in there with Yeah, yeah,

859
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: you need someone outside, you know, Martin Scorsese, you're someone

860
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: to coming.

861
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Back Tarantino in the back. He's a nigga.

862
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: He went up against the college, someone who's unexpected to

863
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: back you. So anyway, I took the heat, and you know,

864
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: I wrote it out like you know, I didn't bring

865
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: anybody else into it. I didn't say, hey, this other

866
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: rap group, of this rock group. I just handled it

867
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: myself the way I've been. You know, I was raised

868
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: by geez and I still adhere to that code. You know,

869
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: that's your drama. You deal with it. You did, so

870
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: I dealt with it.

871
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: And you know, and if it wasn't because I mean

872
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: it was you, then Uncle Luke.

873
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you first, then Uncle Luke, right, and

874
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke then death Row, then death bro the w A.

875
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: He was the first.

876
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 7: But what I'm saying the leaves right right, Yeah, it

877
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 7: was they got they got the president was fb.

878
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: F B. I was yah. But then they dropped death

879
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: Row with Ted Turner because they were concerned it was

880
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: it was a ripple effect.

881
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 7: Warwick was involved and all these people and Lauris talking,

882
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 7: let me.

883
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: Give you a jewel.

884
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: Though it's not hip hop that they were afraid of.

885
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: They were afraid the fact that white kids were getting

886
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: this information. It's like, as long as you sing to

887
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: the hood, no one really cares because they already say

888
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: we won, big nigga. But once we express it and

889
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: they see their little daughters is walking around for the

890
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: police and cock killer, and then now you're infecting the

891
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: rest of the world, and that's when you become a threat.

892
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: So that's when when they saw me have you know,

893
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: thousands of white kids yelling the police with me, they

894
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: were like, we gotta deal with this cat, right because

895
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: he's infected. That's why one of my alms was called

896
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: home invasion, because it was me saying, you know, we've

897
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: invaded your kids. You know we're in there.

898
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: You've got a different cops And now that you play one, yeah,

899
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: I'm going there, Charlie, I got I got mention it

900
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 4: to my man.

901
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: Let's say that's a great interview. Let's say Drake Champs

902
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: interview questions. You know you're doing interview and the niggas

903
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: and you dumb questions, you like, how long.

904
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: You've been in the NBA. What are you talking about

905
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: it now?

906
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: The cop Killer one of my favorite records of all time.

907
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: Still to this days, I still want to create I

908
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: actually think I created this record over but I didn't

909
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: do it justice you do it.

910
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: I am mon.

911
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: If y'all know the record, If you're real hip hop,

912
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna open another bottle. We already got bottles open.

913
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 4: Come over here, come over, youre the bar, but relax.

914
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Relax, that's right there. I want everybody, if you real

915
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: hip hop, to sing along, help me sing along.

916
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: Ice.

917
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 2: I am a night man, walking psychopath talking walking yo.

918
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Yo.

919
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: From when what was the movie? Let me let me

920
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: run it before it was that? Was that inspire? Or

921
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: before the movie? Did you already know?

922
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: You?

923
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: Let me take it to where we was going live

924
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: to where I was going. I hadn't heard of California

925
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: at this time.

926
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: What yeah, it was Colors. Can you google it has

927
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: someone to be that's gonna be like ninety two. It's

928
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: ninety two. I think it's you got.

929
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: But I had heard of California. We had we had,

930
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: we had, we had you know, we're all visions of California.

931
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: But this is the first time in my opinion. This

932
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: is the original California Love Colors, And when.

933
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: I heard that, when I sink the movie, I had

934
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: no idea that was popping off, right, What.

935
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: The fuck was going on on the West Coast? All

936
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: I used to see was beaches, right.

937
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: I had no idea even get killed in California until Colors,

938
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: Like I had.

939
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: I knew about cock Killer, but I was just like

940
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Yeah, but Colors was before Colors. Was

941
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Colors before Yeah Colors.

942
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: What happened with Colors was they was doing this movie

943
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: called Colors. Dennis Hopper was directing it, and apparently they

944
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: it was going to be a Warner Brothers film, and

945
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: due to the fact it was Warner Brothers film, I

946
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: was the first rapper signed to Warner Brothers, so they're gonna,

947
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: of course look at my music first. So they had

948
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: they wanted to use the song I did called Squeeze

949
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the Trigger off my first album, and.

950
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: But the movie was already done.

951
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: You got a movie still, so they got they got

952
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: They got this scene with Don Chietle in it, you

953
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: know rocket, he was listening to my song. So I'm like, well,

954
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: let me if you want to if you want to

955
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: use my song. Let me see the movie.

956
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: That's just right accent. Damn.

957
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: So I got to see the movie. So I'm looking

958
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: at the movie. I'm like, Okay, there's some wrong shit

959
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: in it because at the time the Blacks wasn't fighting

960
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: the Mexicans, you know, there was some other stuff.

961
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: But I'm like, it still kind of gives.

962
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: You an overall. You know, the most real ship is

963
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: when you see the tank in the county with thirty

964
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: eight hundred and the Crips and the Bloods across with

965
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: the fence. Yeah, that was a powerful yeah, but they

966
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: never let that man niggas out at the same time.

967
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: But wait, wait, wait, scene again.

968
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: There's where you see them coming at the crypt module

969
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: and you see the crypt module on one side and

970
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: the Blood module on Yeah, okay, okay, and they're in

971
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: that Yeah. Well, no, they never let that many people out.

972
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: And also, in jail, you don't wear all the colors

973
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: like that. Oh you know, so they let them in jail.

974
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: You're in a uniform by this point, but they showed

975
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: it like that to kind of you know. So I'm

976
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: sitting there so I'm like, I'm not gonna quicktiupe that out.

977
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy they're making the movie now. When they wanted

978
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: to do the movie, first they said, let's shoot it

979
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and then Dennis Hopperson, let's shot it in La.

980
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: The people said, we have gangs in LA that oh,

981
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: so it would have been about Chicago. Well, they didn't.

982
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: They wanted to make a movie about gangs, but they

983
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: didn't know there were gangs in LA. That year, three

984
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty kids had died, almost one a day

985
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: in LA, but no one even it wasn't spoken. It's

986
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: like black lives matter, No one talks about us. We

987
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: were just getting killed. So so I'm like, okay. So

988
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I watched the movie, so I said, do they have

989
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: a title song? And they had a song, and if

990
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: you want to track the movement, get the color soundtrack.

991
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: B side last record is a song by Rick James

992
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: called Colors. It's wack. It's like Rick James, look at

993
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: all these colors, you know, Rick James out. So I'm like, nah,

994
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I can't fuck. So I told Africa Islam, who was

995
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: producing me at the time, I said, let's make a record.

996
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I said, I know this gang ship like the back

997
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: of my hand. I mean, let's take him in the

998
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: brain of a gang banger.

999
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: So at the time I was vibing here's another something

1000
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: you never know.

1001
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: I was vibing off for Kings Sons record Mythological mytho logical,

1002
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: my myth, the myth a lot. Remember, he comes on

1003
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: when I get ill, it's a reason because it's the season.

1004
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: Why I am a nightmare walking psychopath talking that.

1005
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: I think, rap.

1006
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: You're influencing each other. You're not biting because you never knew.

1007
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm like, yo, I'm coming in like King's

1008
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: son because he said when I get ill, it's a

1009
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Front.

1010
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 3: You know, I like that.

1011
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: Shit is hard.

1012
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: If I just came in, I am a nightmare walk

1013
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: in psycho bath talk, same shit. So I wrote the song,

1014
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: did the video. It was so big people thought I

1015
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: was in the movie. People walking to me like, y'all

1016
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: saw you in color.

1017
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: In Colors. Yeah, not in the movie. And I saw

1018
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: the movie so many times. But now that movie the

1019
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: song might be bigger.

1020
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: That movie was single handley the introduction to California lifestyle

1021
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 4: and put.

1022
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Me in the game. Because all my other records I

1023
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: was still bubbling, but that was a national hit. I

1024
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: mean that crossed all and that, and everybody wanted to

1025
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: see the guy that made color.

1026
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: So I went out on the Dope Jam tour.

1027
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: With Eric B and Rock Kim, Dougie Fresh, CuMo d

1028
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: bizmarcky uh and and I was out there with them.

1029
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: I was on the West West coast.

1030
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: Have been crazy.

1031
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: We performed that song and that we shut him down.

1032
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because Eric B and them

1033
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, l a niggas. They

1034
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: had that New York ship going and they you know,

1035
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: they had to change and Supreme Uh Mathematics screaming great

1036
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: magnetic was out of it from the sept comes of Brooklyn.

1037
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: So we got we My intel had told me, you know,

1038
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: I've got my own intel. I'm like the CIA that like, okay,

1039
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: he's the one. Watch him, he's a shooter.

1040
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: We watch him. Who are these niggas. I don't walk

1041
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: in there. I don't walk I know.

1042
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: What's going on. So they was like, okay, this one's live.

1043
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: And there's one right there and he's cool. So they

1044
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: was looking at us. They had no idea who we were.

1045
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: And we showed up.

1046
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: They was like, oh, these are l A gang members,

1047
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 2: like this is crazy.

1048
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: We had all the we had just the same ship

1049
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: they had, but the West Coast version of it. And

1050
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: when I hit the scene, I came out and I

1051
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: opened with Colors on the tour and this ship rocked

1052
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: like I just.

1053
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: Came out that that should give you, do you?

1054
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: And stadium rage and all of a sudden, car rests

1055
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: once start talking to me.

1056
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Everybody on the.

1057
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: Door realized that I was pulling my weight out of here,

1058
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: and we all became close friends where I came and

1059
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: I are friends today, but they re sized me up

1060
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: about the gate.

1061
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: No, but did you understand that Colors in a way

1062
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 4: like right now you can look at you going to

1063
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: the Harlem and I'm sure because you live in New

1064
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: York for real, right Like you're not a fake guy

1065
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: who just visits New York, New York Jersey. You around,

1066
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: You've been around places i'd be at.

1067
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm like dad over that. Yeah, So did you ever

1068
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: think that from Colors.

1069
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: That New York would be gang banging the way New

1070
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: York is? I still don't truly understand it. Like I

1071
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: roll with Tretch a lot right in tresh he blood

1072
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: it's over in Jersey with the bloods. But you know,

1073
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: I can't really get it, totally understand it. But one

1074
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: thing I do understand is respect a nigga with a gun.

1075
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: You know. You know, I'm gonna walk up to a

1076
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: nigga say, well, you a fake gang banger. You're like, yeah,

1077
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: this is a fake bullet.

1078
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 8: Take this, you know.

1079
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1080
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, when you're from LA and you hear guys

1081
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: in other cities saying they're Hoover crips, but they never

1082
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: seen the street, or they're you know, you know whatever,

1083
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, their sixties, but they're from Florida.

1084
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: So I'm like, how is that possible?

1085
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: Sixties is the street, and the sixties all of them

1086
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: are thirties of the street. The forties are a street

1087
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: h S eighty third Street. It's usually the hottest street

1088
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: in that ten block radius. Is the street that gets

1089
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: named like one eleven's twelve. Oh So so you know,

1090
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: I learned, but I know how it happened. What happened

1091
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped

1092
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: coming through Florida, it started to come through Mexico. I

1093
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't even tell this story.

1094
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 2: Nobody listens to us US game and this is old game.

1095
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: But what happened was the coke became less expensive than California,

1096
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: and as it moved across the country, it became instantly

1097
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: like a key with double.

1098
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: So everybody in LA was trying to put the game

1099
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 2: on the road.

1100
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: So you got a cousin in Seattle, right, So you

1101
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: send a couple of homies up to Seattle, and you say, okay,

1102
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: at this point, y'all niggas playboy gangster crips because that's

1103
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: what set me from And these niggas are from Seattle

1104
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: and they don't really know about it. But then there's

1105
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: some real lifeboat and we take these niggas and get

1106
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: them khakis and shit like that. Then maybe you might

1107
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: send a nigga from LA to put some work in.

1108
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: They ain't never seen violence like that before. You know,

1109
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: they turned out and they move and wait, and this

1110
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: happens all over the country. Niggas coming from Saint Louis.

1111
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: So there's somebody from LA that took that gang out there.

1112
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Now are they respected in LA well to an extent,

1113
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: But you can't come I don't care if you're from whatever,

1114
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Wyoming or whatever. And you come to LA and you

1115
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: actually in Hoover's hood and you claiming Hoover you're gonna

1116
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: bow down that street, that actual street. The nigga's on

1117
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: that block, that's the g's So you know, I was

1118
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: up in Harlem and I met some bloods, right, So

1119
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, a nigga I used to blood

1120
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: some I'm like like that. I said, okay, like that

1121
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: he said you was the crypt right, and they're like yes,

1122
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: it was cool. I'm like, well, you ain't cool with me,

1123
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: you know, like if your nigga's really banging, right, I said, well,

1124
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: gang banging is the act of murder. So then they

1125
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: was like they was like, I said so much, said

1126
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: show me a blood sign. So they did like this.

1127
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: I was like, turn it upside down. I said that's

1128
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: a blood sign too. They were excited. They were like, yeah,

1129
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: that's a pirute. Okb okay, so he does a bad

1130
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: I just turned it upside I said that's a blood sign.

1131
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm giving him gang tutoring. They were like thank you.

1132
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Like I was like, man, but nobody that comes from

1133
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: that wants it to happen. The gang thing happened when

1134
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: we were young kids was out there, we were protecting

1135
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and it got taken out of control once

1136
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: the drugs came in. Once the drugs came in, it's

1137
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: split into little sets. So now cryps is fighting crips.

1138
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Blood niggas don't care what color.

1139
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 4: So you're saying back then, crips wasn't fighting Chris because

1140
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 4: it seems like crips always.

1141
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: Have beeper Crypt No no, no, no no no.

1142
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: If you was a crypt, was a cry But now

1143
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: it's sets. The sets just splintered. They splintered. So say,

1144
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: for instance, we all won Crypt set and then you

1145
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: got the sack and you, like nigga, we the nor

1146
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: re crypts now us for this splinter And that's what happened, he.

1147
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: Said, because the price of the drugs went down, like

1148
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: when Escobar went down and it all started going through Mexico.

1149
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: That greed, it's creedy. It's just greed. It's like changing trading.

1150
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the trade came to La, but greed, greed,

1151
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: it's just you.

1152
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: He's the boss. You start counting his money.

1153
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: As soon as the side nigga starts counting the bosses money,

1154
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: you have the potential or deceit anything. It happened, so

1155
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: you always telling me, man, nor he's making a little

1156
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: bit too much money.

1157
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: Why are you counting the boss's money?

1158
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: Man? Why are you worrying about what he's making? And

1159
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna say, man, let's go this way. And

1160
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: that happens in any type of.

1161
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: Organization, gang culture. Let me ask you a question, and

1162
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: gang culture, can there ever be one leader or no?

1163
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the leader of each set. I rolled with a

1164
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: dude named Tony Bogart who was the leader of Imperial

1165
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 1: Courts of the PJ.

1166
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: Watts Crips, which is a whole project.

1167
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: And I seen him walk into a like a wreck

1168
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: room a room, and I've seen a hundred niggas stand

1169
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: up and like when he and get quiet until he

1170
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: came in and they sat down. I'm like, yo, you

1171
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: know that was a g but they killed him. Wow,

1172
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: you know he's gone. I mean, you know, the thing

1173
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: about gang membership, the thing about crime period is everyone

1174
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: is a liar, a cheater, a thief, a double. I mean,

1175
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a group of bandits, so anything can

1176
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: fucking happen. You know, you hope there's loyalty inside of it,

1177
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: but you're dealing.

1178
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: A bunch of murderers.

1179
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: Everyone is cold blooded, you know, to your your idea

1180
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: is to get the fuck out of there as soon

1181
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: as possible. You know. That's why I'm square as a

1182
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: pool table twice as green. I wouldn't still a nickel

1183
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: off the mantlepiece. Man, I'm not really, I'm not really,

1184
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: you know. I'm fortunate I live through it, but it's

1185
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: not what I'm about no more. I don't want to

1186
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: live like that. Man.

1187
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: That's just crazy.

1188
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: Now, Ice, you survive the h the scrutiny from the

1189
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: cop killer record?

1190
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: You you you?

1191
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: You pull out the Colors records. Color records bring you everywhere?

1192
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: Now where is Ice at when he hears n w

1193
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 4: A the ball Plice?

1194
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: Well, you remember where us that? When you well, I

1195
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: knew you know, I knew n w A because n

1196
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: w A used to open for me.

1197
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: We used to go out.

1198
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just said that, man, nonchalotly. I had to

1199
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: be around Colors too as well.

1200
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna do Cube take out nw A. We would

1201
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: all tour together, would be NWA iced t DC. And

1202
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: then when Easy put out his record, they split it

1203
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: and they tried to, you know, do Easy with another group,

1204
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: and we would all go all over the place together.

1205
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: We used to fight together. We used to get out

1206
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: there and get it gone because we were West Coast,

1207
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, Cuban Mayor like brothers.

1208
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: I love Cube like we were close. I used to

1209
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: when they.

1210
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Came out with fuck the Police. We was out there rapping.

1211
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: We was out there rapping, and they hit him in

1212
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: the head with that, I'm like, oh shit. But see,

1213
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: I always knew the first time you heard it was

1214
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: on tour though, yeah, because Easy and them were playing

1215
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: it before they dropped it. So I heard it on

1216
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: the radio. I'm like, oh, y'all niggas about to go there.

1217
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: Cause I used to say I used to say fuck

1218
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: the police on my shows, right, So I don't When

1219
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: I would before I would do six in the morning,

1220
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I would go out and I would say, Yo, the

1221
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: police told me I can't do this song right. And

1222
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: then I would like, get the audience pipped up, and

1223
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I say fuck the police, and

1224
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: the crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went

1225
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: off in Easy's head, like I have something right here.

1226
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: I say that.

1227
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: But I used to say, I say I had an echo.

1228
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: I said, my name is iced T.

1229
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I gotta rep like a killer killer. No one gets Wilder,

1230
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: no one gets illa Illa. I don't get high, I

1231
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: don't drink Miller Miller. But if your girl's empty, I'm

1232
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: sure I can fill it filler. I make stupid ass

1233
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: records because I just don't care. Motherfuckers can't even play

1234
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: my ship on the air. But y'all know you like it,

1235
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: you say you want more, because every time I leave

1236
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: the crib to go to the store, I hear six

1237
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: in the morning police at my door. I was with

1238
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: them at the time, and you know, it was it was.

1239
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: It was a movement, and I always knew and to me, honestly,

1240
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: nw A I needed n w A because I was

1241
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: by myself and to have four more cats.

1242
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: Roll yeah, yeah, yeah. We weren't enemies.

1243
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, and you know now, they would always

1244
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: hit harder than me because I'm one rapper versus a

1245
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: gang of motherfuckers rapping, and it sounds better when people

1246
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: are spitting on top of each other.

1247
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: But and then they wrote some incredible records. Then they

1248
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: had Jack No Drag the neighborhood.

1249
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: No No, they're from different areas, Cubans from one hundred

1250
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: and twentieth Street. I'm from the forties and like so

1251
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: I knew dub cub C used to be beat box

1252
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: for Clientele who was in the Wrecking gl So, but

1253
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: that's the thing. LA is a small tree, like you

1254
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: guys are hip hop Oh here is a big tree.

1255
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Everything in LA is either NWA and who they became,

1256
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: the syndicate, my crew and who they became, which included

1257
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Cyprus Hill which crew's ever last when and in Latin

1258
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: them or a few groups that were on Delicious Vinyl,

1259
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: which was Tone Lok and Young MC.

1260
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: So if there's beef in LA, you could call me

1261
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: Q Snoop, you know, and shut.

1262
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: It down because there's only it's everyone that comes up

1263
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: from under us. So that's why the only time there

1264
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: was ever bee from the West Coast was family feud

1265
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: when they fought and everybody just had to step back

1266
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: because How'm gonna get between Easy and Q when I know,

1267
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's a family fuse.

1268
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: So when Fuck Devolice came out, did you know exactly

1269
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: what they was gonna go through at that?

1270
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: I had no idea because because you were the first,

1271
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: we were hardcore wrapped though they weren't really fucking with

1272
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: us like that. I didn't have no idea that the

1273
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: police would intervene. I had no idea they were actually

1274
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: gone through the body counting yet. Yeah, we were going

1275
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: through cursing ship. None came out first. Yeah, yeah, you know,

1276
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: I got my history fucked. Yeah. I thought cop Killer

1277
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: came off. No, no, no, cock Killer didn't come out

1278
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: to Uh. Body count didn't come out to the OG

1279
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: album came out, So that was later. But they did

1280
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: it first, and we were already getting in Trump for cursing.

1281
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: This is how bullshit shows at shows. Remember this, If

1282
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: you curse, we're gonna arrest you. That was you can't curse.

1283
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: So they would show up at the shows and show

1284
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: us that ship, and then what we would do is

1285
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: we would do the show and the cops would be

1286
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: on the side, and they used to shut the lights

1287
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: off and I would jump off into the pit and

1288
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: run out the side, so we would run from the

1289
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: cops and then we would get the tour bus and

1290
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: we would.

1291
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: Get to the next state. He really paved the way

1292
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: for us.

1293
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: That's just one of the total perspectives when a person

1294
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 4: says it like that. Because Luke said it, and I

1295
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: thought Luke was being bad, I didn't know Luke was

1296
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 4: being bad for cursing.

1297
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: I thought Luke was being bad for being vulgar and

1298
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: the Bible belt when you're down there, Oh yeah, that's

1299
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: that's yeah.

1300
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: They were running that kind of still, like that.

1301
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 1: They would show up at the show with a piece

1302
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: of paper that says, if you curse, we will shut

1303
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: the show. That wow, And and that was my cue

1304
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: to go harder, like, yo, fuck that. You know what

1305
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, We're gonna come out here. And I would

1306
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: always say the police warn me, and you know, that

1307
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: just got the shit even more crazy and stuff like that.

1308
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: But but my whole thing was I had already been

1309
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: breaking the law, right so so whatever this charge was

1310
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: was nothing.

1311
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: I was like, compared to what I was doing. I'm

1312
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: gonna go to Jeniffer talking kids, my motherfucking ass, let's go,

1313
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: you know. And I had money, and I'm like, we'll bail.

1314
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it was a petty charge, so

1315
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, So that that was that. We

1316
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: used to run from the police a lot. I remember,

1317
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: we had a big ass fight. We had. We had

1318
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: lots of fights out there on the road because when

1319
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: we would come to towns. They would they want to

1320
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: test you. Remember the big nagus of you. Easy come here, Easy,

1321
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: like they wanted to see Easy, Like you know, so

1322
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: Easy was small, so he wouldn't want to really just

1323
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm always like, take me to your leader type nigga.

1324
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm six foot tall.

1325
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go. We can go a couple up

1326
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: in this bitch, let's go. So I never really felt

1327
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: I had no problem with street niggas. When I got

1328
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: to Detroit, I'm like, take me to your leader. Let

1329
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: me see who the toughest nigga is. I'll befriend him,

1330
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'm good. I'm not here.

1331
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm here to entertain you anyway. I'm not your enemy.

1332
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not here to sell your drugs, to take your block,

1333
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: which you need some backsage passes?

1334
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: Is he the ball came up? Now we're good. Yeah,

1335
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: we good, nig You're good. Now I got security.

1336
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1337
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: That's how I played it everywhere.

1338
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: And it's like quick said, Quick said, everywhere is like calm.

1339
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: To remember the joint. Yeah that's what if you're smart,

1340
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: if you know, I mean the same thing you do

1341
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: in prison.

1342
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: Like shit, I was just about to say that's so

1343
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: before we get into all that. How did ice t

1344
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: wind up in the Army.

1345
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: I got in the army because when I was in

1346
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: high school, I got my girlfriend pregnant. I was I

1347
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: just got out of high school and I graduated early.

1348
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: I was an a student. I was on the honor roll,

1349
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: all that shit. I graduated twenty we report card. I

1350
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: was out. I had all my credits, and I started

1351
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: trade technical college. I wanted to do by. I can

1352
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: paint cars, I can do all kinds of body and

1353
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: fender and all that kind of shit. That was what

1354
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna do it, pick slow riders.

1355
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: I was into cars. I always been in the cars.

1356
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: And I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really

1357
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: know how easy it was to get a girl pregnant.

1358
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: You know. I was just like a young dage, was

1359
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: not style.

1360
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting that much pussy up to that point,

1361
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: you anyway.

1362
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: Nah, So I got it pregnant, and I was like, fuck,

1363
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: so now I got a baby coming. And I'm a

1364
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: small time hustler, you know, doing small bullshit, you know,

1365
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: stealing car radios.

1366
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: Nothing, drugs hadn't come.

1367
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: To nothing that, nothing had come up that was going

1368
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: to make me rich. And I was also very athletic.

1369
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: I was in gymnastics in high school. I was doing

1370
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, parallel bars, crunch your highest crunch. Yeah, So

1371
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: I was strong. I was very strong. So they had

1372
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: an enlisting office on crench Yaw and I just walked

1373
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: in there and I was like, you know, I got

1374
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: to get out of the game because I got a kid.

1375
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: And so I went in there and and I just

1376
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: basically was picking uniforms. I was like, well, what's that, nigga,

1377
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: that's infantry. You get twenty five hundred dollars bonus. I'm like, word, okay.

1378
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: And he said that red beret, that's airborne, you get

1379
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: another twenty five hundred.

1380
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't come home in no red beret.

1381
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: You didn't I couldn't wear no red I was like yo.

1382
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: So then I said the next one was the Black Beret,

1383
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: which were the Rangers.

1384
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: Serious?

1385
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: I like that because that was like the Black Panthers, right,

1386
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: And then the next one was special Forces the Green Beret.

1387
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: But that was fifty two weeks of basic or AI

1388
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: T wait sold on.

1389
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: You was about to join the army, and they tried

1390
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: to offer you red you use none.

1391
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: Why when I went in this nigga when they refused

1392
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: the army for red, Well, when I went in there,

1393
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: I was picking uniforms. I just was like, what am

1394
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: I going to look like? And then they was like,

1395
01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: well this is regular infantry. This this call Mike moves

1396
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: on an interview just right here. If you go, you know, airborne,

1397
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: you get to wear red beret. And I was like,

1398
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: I can't come home and no red beret. You did

1399
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was like, I can't come to

1400
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. Okay, yeah, so that's what it was. So

1401
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: then I had a black beret and a green beret,

1402
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: so I picked a black beret. And uh, facically, it's

1403
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: just a bunch of training, bunch of athletics ship. If

1404
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: as long as you have a good cardio, you could

1405
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: do it, you know, but you just got to be disciplined.

1406
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 1: You got to get used to people yelling in your face,

1407
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: and kind of home Rangers is kind of tough. H Well,

1408
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, if he was an army, you know, it's

1409
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: fentimental ship. They're gonna yell at you, they're going to

1410
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: try to fuck you up mentally. But then you gotta

1411
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: you know you deal.

1412
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: You sleep up from neighborhood. So how did you how

1413
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: did how did you did you do? Accept the discipline

1414
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: you got to you want to have to the hood

1415
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: is in the military.

1416
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: But you know that, you know, like in that movie

1417
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: Officer and a gentleman with the man said why are

1418
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: you here? He says, I ain't got nowhere else to go.

1419
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: That's the only way you're going to make it through

1420
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: that training. You have to believe you have no options.

1421
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: You can't. It's not something you just say, I just

1422
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: think I want to do. You gotta be like, what

1423
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: is my other option? I gotta do this? And so,

1424
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, the training was exciting to me, and the

1425
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: athletic part was exciting to me. The discipline stuff, I

1426
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: realized they was trying to mind fuck me. So I've

1427
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: worked against that and I just knocked it out. But

1428
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: you know it's just some uh you.

1429
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: Feel that any of those skills you learned in the

1430
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: military helped you.

1431
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I started robbing banks, Yeah, when I started yeah, yeah,

1432
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: well when I came home.

1433
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: The social waters from out there.

1434
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: When from the service, because I went to the Service

1435
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: right out of high school.

1436
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: Service and country, did you start a robbing country. Well

1437
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 2: it wasn't my country. Sure you live on the podcast

1438
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: with Iced Tea. It's capon y'all.

1439
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: What's up baby?

1440
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: What's up? Component I asked about you? Yeah, I told him. Hey, hey, listen, hey, listen, listen, listen.

1441
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: How long you're gonna be around? I'm gonna be here.

1442
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 2: This conversation might go all night. No, no, but they

1443
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: going in. We're just getting the halfway. We're at the

1444
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: halfway pointer. Baby. You know what I'm saying. Well, where

1445
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: you at?

1446
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: Man?

1447
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, I'm close. I'm not fun. I'm not fun.

1448
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 9: I come to.

1449
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's birthday, Happy birthday, and we celebrate the

1450
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: birthday birthday compone. All right, dug daildun gil.

1451
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: I hear Ali were going for this this interview iseed team.

1452
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna hit you back you after you at the

1453
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: yotel at the alright, one of.

1454
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: The That's funny when niggas be on the talking on

1455
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: the phone, you got that and they be wiz kids out.

1456
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if they talk that ship way better

1457
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: than you when I went.

1458
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: You hear what I said.

1459
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: When niggas be on the phone and may be wizz

1460
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: kids out, I say, the fans talk that ship wave,

1461
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: they break that ship down. He said, it's better talk

1462
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 1: regular if you're not doing that much because the fast

1463
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: book whatever. Oh my god, oh my god, hold up,

1464
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: that was the that was the straight fucking just well,

1465
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: that is not good.

1466
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: M I didn't I thought.

1467
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: I thought.

1468
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: I thought you helped me out my friend for no easing.

1469
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: So what we were talking about, sorry, talking about robbing

1470
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: ship the bank robbers.

1471
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 3: He got out.

1472
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: My bank robbery.

1473
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: There's two ways to the bank, come after, all right,

1474
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: just trying to do the right comes. So you know,

1475
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: Ice team, we praised foul niggas and all right in

1476
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: the way you described yourself.

1477
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: You're trying to do.

1478
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 10: You're like, you're like the foul nigga president. You got

1479
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 10: out the harmony and rob the banks. I'm trying to

1480
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 10: do the right thing.

1481
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: But when I got home, when I when I left,

1482
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: my niggas was small time criminals. When I came home,

1483
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: they had elevated their game. So I'm like, so what

1484
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: are y'all doing? They say, we robbing jewelry stores. We

1485
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: get in check cash and boots, were getting credit unions,

1486
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, occasional banks.

1487
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that's like that a bank.

1488
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: So I was like, so, what's to get down now?

1489
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: Due to the fact I had all that military training,

1490
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: I was able to up the game up and I

1491
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: told them, you know, basically, any operation deals with intelligence.

1492
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: The more you know about the mark, the better.

1493
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: So I added that to the game, like lots of

1494
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,919
Speaker 1: heavy duty case and lots of understanding what the alarms

1495
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: and the response times was and stuff. So you know,

1496
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of ways to doing it. There's

1497
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: what's caught. Like with jewelry, there's this basic snatch and

1498
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: grab where you just walk in and get a watch

1499
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: and run. There's basically the bash where you knock out

1500
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: the glass and stuff. Then you've got the burglary, which

1501
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: is a four or five nine. But if you're going

1502
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: for the safe, now see I could give up some

1503
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: game ship. Well, if you want to hit it, it's

1504
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: all right, fuck it it burglary. If you're going to

1505
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: rob a jewelry store, rob it at the time it

1506
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,919
Speaker 1: opens or the time it closes.

1507
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 2: Why why because it's safe soap right in the morning.

1508
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: So what you want to do is you want to

1509
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: get there right when they let pulling the ship out

1510
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: of the safe, right when they're pulling those flags out.

1511
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: But that doesn't jewel That was when So once when

1512
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: you see a jury story at night, when they close

1513
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: that door at the last minute and they start to

1514
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: and if you really want to time it, let them

1515
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: lay the plaques up, let them get.

1516
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: Everything out and up out of the window. Let them

1517
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: do it for you so that everything is stacked.

1518
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: But right before it's getting ready to go in the safe,

1519
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: that's when you want to hit them. And then you

1520
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: know we're not going to give you the step by

1521
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: step details. And also bottom line is anything you do,

1522
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: you got to do it backwards, so it's not as

1523
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: it's not as important. Where the lick is is where

1524
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna escape to, and that has to be like

1525
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: a maze of how you're gonna get away. A lot

1526
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: of you don't just do it and then say, now

1527
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: where do we run this? All that is all thought

1528
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: out one way where you know we use motorcycles on

1529
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: one way streets. I could I could take a motorcycle.

1530
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: I could hit the jewelry district over here and put

1531
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: a bike in. All I'm gonna do is hit one

1532
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: way streets backwards, right, So they can't get but then

1533
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: do they got helicopters under the ground, Like if you know,

1534
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: the best way to get away from a high speed

1535
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: chase is take them into a parking structure, not out

1536
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: on the street, a parking structure where now the cops

1537
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: got to stay outside, they can only come in one.

1538
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 1: Then you can ditch the car and you can go

1539
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: through the steps. And yeah, so all this stuff, it's

1540
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: shit I did for years anyway, and and you're gonna

1541
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: end up getting killed or murdered at some point because

1542
01:13:53,240 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, I done it, and uh whatever, bank bank.

1543
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: But the thing of it is, most of the times,

1544
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: the two ways you rob a bank, you play a note,

1545
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: you play a teller. You go for the vault. What

1546
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: you saw on the heat is a takeover robbery where

1547
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: they would take the whole vault. That that's a lot

1548
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,520
Speaker 1: of exposure.

1549
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: I was.

1550
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: I was around cast and winning the vault and stuff

1551
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: like that. But you gotta you're gonna be in there

1552
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: a long time.

1553
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: You know.

1554
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: Most times people just walk up and play the note

1555
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: and just get the one teller or you.

1556
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: Said a note, how did you the note?

1557
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: You just walk up and you just say I got

1558
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: a gun. Give me the money, and that is hand

1559
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: you the month fuck of money. That's called playing a note.

1560
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: That's an easy that's the easiest way robbed bank. It

1561
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The thing well, that's that's that's those are impacts.

1562
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: They still got them. Yeah then yeah, but you know what,

1563
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I feel very uncomfortable

1564
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: talking about.

1565
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: This stuff, you know, comfortable, right.

1566
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: The thing of it is is I want And also

1567
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: also like a lot of my friends are still incarcerated,

1568
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: so you know, from they in there saying they didn't

1569
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: do it, yeah, I am saying we did it.

1570
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: You know that's not good.

1571
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know it was it was a

1572
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: time and you know, uh, when I got that chance

1573
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: to rap, I jumped in and I didn't you know,

1574
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: because I knew my days was numbered in low digits.

1575
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: I knew that that wasn't gonna last. When you're hustling

1576
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: like that, you make a lot of money, then you

1577
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: spend it. You make a lot of money, then you

1578
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: spend it. You're up and down. Those are licks, you know,

1579
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: and you make it and you spend it. And it

1580
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, I don't I didn't see a long

1581
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: life like that. So when the rapping came along, I

1582
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: was like, damn, you know I could do this. And

1583
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: then I tried to rap like New York and the

1584
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: niggas was like, rap about what we do. And then

1585
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: we invent what we call the crime rhyme rhyme based

1586
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: around that, and I got archives and archives of that ship.

1587
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: So I started making stories in the stories, like I

1588
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: call it faction, so it's its factual occurrence is put

1589
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: into a fictional scenario. So things I'm saying, did that happen?

1590
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: Did that really that happened? They couldn't not combine them.

1591
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: So the story sounds really real because the ship really happened,

1592
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: but just not in that particular order.

1593
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: Now, does that make any sense correctly?

1594
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 3: He briefly mentioned, I think it's we need to talk

1595
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: about a little bit more rhyme syndicate, which might be

1596
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 3: one of the first cruise of hip hop maybe BDP

1597
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: and rhyme syndicates around the same era.

1598
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who who are the members of rhyme syndecks rhyme?

1599
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: So nevertheless, House of Pain, you know Pain ever left?

1600
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: Yes, what happened was, you know, when I was trying

1601
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: to when I decided I wanted to rap. I had

1602
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: to kind of like leave my crime friends alone and

1603
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: get with these rap niggas. Right, So I'm with all

1604
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: these different rap people, and I would seem like I

1605
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: was gonna make it first. So I said to homies,

1606
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: I said, if I make it, I'm gonna try to

1607
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: help y'all.

1608
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: So I was reading up. I'm an avid reader, so

1609
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: I was reading that.

1610
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: You know, Lucky Luciano had started this thing called the Commission,

1611
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: where it was a group of groups with one common goal.

1612
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups

1613
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: of one common goal. So basically, we're not I'm not

1614
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: the boss, You're the boss. You're the boss. You're the

1615
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: boss of your own organization a network. But we agreed

1616
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk before we fight, right, So

1617
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: that's what a syndicate is. So I wasn't I just

1618
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: brought groups in. It's kind of like the West Coast

1619
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: Zulu Nation, really kind of like, but I knew LA

1620
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really gonna ride with the Afro centric shit. There

1621
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: was two gangsters. So I created a term called the syndicate,

1622
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: and we had low Profile was in it, which was

1623
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: dub c. Of course, when we had When we had Mugs,

1624
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: Mugs was in a group called seven eighty three. At

1625
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: the time, he was a DJ and course Everlast Divine styler,

1626
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: Donald d Uh from the Bronx, where was ever lessons

1627
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: from where Everless from l A.

1628
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: He was like from the valley and he had the

1629
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: hair at the time. Remember when he came.

1630
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: He was brought to me by a guy named Bala

1631
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: Dasher and ever Last first sounding like rock Kim when

1632
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: I heard him.

1633
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: He was rapping.

1634
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: Now new rappers were rapping someone else's voice, and I'm like,

1635
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: right right, you know, and I'm like, you sound dope,

1636
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: but you got to use your own voice, you know.

1637
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: And so once he found his own voice, he started

1638
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: to rap and stuff. But it was just my way

1639
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: of I got Everlast a record deal, I got Divine

1640
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: Style of a record deal, I did a compilation album.

1641
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: It was just a way of me trying to help

1642
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: West Coast niggas, you know, and and try to create

1643
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: peace versus more which is not profitable educational.

1644
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 6: So now.

1645
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 4: New Jack City, which is New York City classic, but

1646
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: that is so.

1647
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: Disrespectful hip hop classic, man, I love those in my

1648
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: eye relaxed because that's how.

1649
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: That's how much to me?

1650
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 4: New Jack City is not only a New York class, right,

1651
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 4: it's not only a hip hop class.

1652
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,919
Speaker 2: It's not only it's a worldwide class cinematic.

1653
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 4: But I need to know you as being the most

1654
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 4: gangster risk gangster you you you had the sixties on

1655
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 4: your back when it wasn't cool to say the sixties.

1656
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 4: You had the crypt ship on your back when it

1657
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: wasn't cool to say the cript ship. You had to

1658
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: gang ship on your back when it wasn't cool to

1659
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 4: say the ship. And now you get presented with this

1660
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 4: raw as a co Yeah, at that time it would

1661
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 4: have been controversy.

1662
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: But it's a joint called New Jack City, and they're

1663
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: saying that it's based on this guy was just not

1664
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: Nino Brown, because Nino Brown is a fatition.

1665
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: Based on some cats from from from New York City

1666
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: and also somebody from the Bay from Frisco Brothers or

1667
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: something like that thought catch Money Brothers from New York.

1668
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: I met the actual guy that said he was.

1669
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: They feel it. Just told me wait wait wait, okay,

1670
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: cast Money Brothers. Yeah, I got that, you're.

1671
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: Right, but.

1672
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: How does they even approach you?

1673
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so what happened with New jack City was they

1674
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: wanted to make this movie and they had they had

1675
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: written the movie, and they didn't know who they were

1676
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: going to get. And at the time, there was just

1677
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: not there just wasn't a lot of black actors. Now

1678
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: there's hundreds of black hackers. But at the time, Wesley

1679
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: Snipes had only done Major League. He was, you know,

1680
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: he loved Major right, but that was he wasn't a

1681
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: big known actor. So George Jackson and Dougman Henry, the producers,

1682
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: they just had a brainstrom. They said, let's just take

1683
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: people from pop culture. Ice is selling millions of records.

1684
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: He's a little, you know, kind of little pro protest

1685
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: pro that let's get him. Let's get Chris Rock. He's

1686
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: the most grimy new So he just took all the

1687
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 1: people that they knew that were hot and different, and

1688
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: so let's make a lot of us.

1689
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: Never knew who Chris Rock was. Let's let's let's see

1690
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: if they can act.

1691
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: So I'm in a club and Mario Van Peoples was

1692
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: in the club and he says to me, he heard

1693
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: me in the roof.

1694
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: He said he heard me in a toilet.

1695
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: I was talking ship to somebody in the bathroom, in

1696
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: the toilet.

1697
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: I was in the bathroom, and I was on my ship.

1698
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: I was like saying, I say that.

1699
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, nigga, if the motherfuckers can get a

1700
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: microscope and find one molecule of me that gave a fuck,

1701
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: then they can angle me. But they can't angle me

1702
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: because it's not a molecule there that gives a fuck.

1703
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: So he said, whoever said that's gonna be the star

1704
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 2: of my movie?

1705
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 6: Right?

1706
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: So I was on this on my ice t shit.

1707
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: So I'm out there and now now I'm parlay.

1708
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: In with three females talking my bullshit, you know, trying

1709
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: to sell him a dream. So I'm in the middle

1710
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: of it.

1711
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: And then he walks over says, a Ice, would you.

1712
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: Like to be in a movie? Some I'm like, Hollywood bullshit? Right,

1713
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: who Mario Mario? I'm like, Hollywood bullshit.

1714
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: You just people hit the old Mario Ron people says

1715
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: that was the main cop.

1716
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and his father was in Sweet Sweet Back,

1717
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: bad Ass song. He's a gee Melvin Van Peoples. So

1718
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: he hits me with this bullshit about being in a movie.

1719
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: So I'm like, nigga, youre just trying to talk to

1720
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,879
Speaker 1: these girls, like, you know, I introduced him to the females.

1721
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: He's like, most serious. Show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow.

1722
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: We got this.

1723
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: So we change numbers and you were already on Warner

1724
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Brothers as a record. Everything around One Brothers at the time.

1725
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: So I show up at his thing and I look

1726
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: at the script. I'm expecting I'm gonna get four or

1727
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: five lines. So I read Scotty's part and I'm like, yo,

1728
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: this is the whole movie. Son, like really, Like, I'm

1729
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: not an actor. He said, you can do it like this.

1730
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: Nigga got dreads like I gotta. I'm like.

1731
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: Like, and they were like, and he's a cop. I'm like,

1732
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. So I got home,

1733
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: I start talking to people, you know, I talk to

1734
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: my boys. I'm like, Yo, they want me to play

1735
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: a police in the movie. Man, what you think we

1736
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: could I be in the movie.

1737
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 11: About Yeah.

1738
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: Niggas from jail was calling me.

1739
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, yeah, blah, yeah, yeah, we sent the

1740
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: package and all that, but uh, yeah, you know, I

1741
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: know you in the bowels of the Devil. I understand

1742
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: the man. They want me to play the police, right now,

1743
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: what do you feel about that in the movie.

1744
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: Were if I was out, could I be in the movie?

1745
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: So no one was saying no.

1746
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, nigga, that's an opportunity positive. And then

1747
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: then the girls where I used to get my hair did.

1748
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: I used to get my hair done twice a week.

1749
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: I had my shit permed up, you know, more wavy

1750
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: than the ships in the navy. You know, you know,

1751
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: you got to keep sharp and staying nice up in

1752
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: this bitch saying I got out match a motherfucking woman

1753
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: before I can she can understand what I'm saying. I

1754
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: was sharp, so I was sharp. And the girls at

1755
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: the beauty parlor, they was like nothing from the hood.

1756
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: I called the beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon.

1757
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: It was like I said, they want me to pill

1758
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: the police. They're like, you gotta do it, nigga, because

1759
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be one of the real niggas. And when

1760
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: you get older, you ain't gonna forget the hood, and

1761
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell everybody what the fuck's going on, nigga.

1762
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: And if you don't do this movie, don't come back

1763
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: up in this month fucking right. So the sisters sent

1764
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 1: me out on that mission and I did the movie.

1765
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: I was shitting nervous.

1766
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: But now did they know this, this this story took

1767
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: place in New York.

1768
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: Didn't matter. It was just an opportunity, opportunity, you know, Nordy,

1769
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: I believe this man. We come from a background with

1770
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: no opportunities, and we always are, you know, upset about that.

1771
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: When you get an opportunity and you don't take it,

1772
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: and you're a real live sucker.

1773
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You're a real live sucker

1774
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: because you.

1775
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Mention, you mentioned about it, and now you get it

1776
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: and you don't take it, and you got to put

1777
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: the jets on when you get that opportunity, because they

1778
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: don't get them.

1779
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: We don't get them.

1780
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: So I got that opportunity, so you took it. I

1781
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: went and I tried my best to do the movie.

1782
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: I was nervous. This is at the same time Original

1783
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 1: Gangster came out. This is my biggest album. I was platinum.

1784
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, like I'm like, fuck this all off.

1785
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 4: But then you're not telling me you had a choice

1786
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 4: between going on tour this album and do New Jackson.

1787
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: It was no tour at the time, but my album

1788
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: was hot. So I at k New Jack City, was

1789
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: can I risk this and fu up my record? It's

1790
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: my record is hot.

1791
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 4: But but now, when you got the script, did they

1792
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: tell you the actors that was attached to it?

1793
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 9: Didn't?

1794
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 2: I didn't care, and I had a record out original

1795
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: game that was.

1796
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: The and and ruin everything that I got going and

1797
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: what my niggas accept me.

1798
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: I was worried.

1799
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: You know, I've always been more concerned with my friends,

1800
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: my close friends, whether they're in prison or home. That's

1801
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: been my thermometer on what if I'm doing what's right.

1802
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: I got to keep their respect. And my niggas is

1803
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: straight niggas, and they love going the word nigga.

1804
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: Hey hold, but I'm.

1805
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: Telling you to my niggas ain't corny niggas. They told me, Yo,

1806
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: a hustle is supposed to get the money by any means,

1807
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: by the path of least resistance, and television has a

1808
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,959
Speaker 1: lot less resistance than twenty.

1809
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: Five a life niggas. So you do the right thing,

1810
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: get that paper, I start planning.

1811
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: Do your numbers. So so now I'm I'm where was

1812
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: I Jackson? Jackson?

1813
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, New jack City. You were contemplating whether whether to

1814
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: do it.

1815
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: I was struggling, but I did the damn movie and

1816
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: it was successful, and I is scared. Like they said,

1817
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna put dreads on you because we want people

1818
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: not to just see Ice Tea. We want them to

1819
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,839
Speaker 1: give them a chance for you to be another character

1820
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: that they're so familiar with. How you look it throw

1821
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: them off. And I remember I went to the.

1822
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 2: Movies like after three days after it came out.

1823
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I was sitting behind some niggas and I heard them, niggas,

1824
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: look at Ice Tea with.

1825
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 2: That motherfucking head on. Nigga, look crazy, motherfucker man in

1826
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: the movie.

1827
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: You ain't let you want yelling. I'm like, yeah, you

1828
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: did it too right. I wanted to get a real

1829
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: response in the nigga. About about ten minutes into the movie,

1830
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes I'm chasing Chris Rock, They're like, get it, Scotty.

1831
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: They start calling me Scotti the name. I'm like that

1832
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: was was like yo, it's piss. But I was like,

1833
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm pulling this ship like they're rolling with me. Did

1834
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: the movie was a huge success. No negativity. Hip hop

1835
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: embraced me, and everybody know. Nobody even tripped off the

1836
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: cop thing. They was like, nigga, you acting, that's a job.

1837
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: And I've been rolling like that ever since. You know,

1838
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: like acting is act.

1839
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 4: So that was your first movie, world that you fell

1840
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 4: in love with.

1841
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: On the first movie, I actually got to speak, you know,

1842
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: I was. I was in those other movies breaking back

1843
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: in the day. I was a feature rap talking.

1844
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: But then you then you get the call about to

1845
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 2: do a movie with Denzel ship.

1846
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 12: We got Elliott Wilson h Ambulance, but you get the

1847
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 12: call that was my next movie, the Denzel movie.

1848
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, from Joel Silver, one of the biggest producers in

1849
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: the history. He does the Matrix.

1850
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 2: What was the name of this movie? Ricky set with

1851
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: Denzel and.

1852
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 4: Because because this is the crazy shit, Denzel is not Denzel,

1853
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: He's He's he's dead.

1854
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: He ain't got the Zel yet.

1855
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: He just yeah, and you do this movie?

1856
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 4: Did you know that this motherfucker is going to be

1857
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 4: the illest actor in the world?

1858
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 2: And did again? When did you didn't know that?

1859
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: I knew he was. I mean to me, Denzel, Well

1860
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: you heard of Denzel prior to that, but I just

1861
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: knew Deenzel Washington was the big was the biggest actor

1862
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: I ever worked with.

1863
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: You know, I remember I was just working with this

1864
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: new people.

1865
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm working with Judge Nelson on Denzel Well, I knew

1866
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Genzel Washington was.

1867
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 2: I was because Wesley wasn't really big. When we women

1868
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 2: were loving Denzel that that was his ship.

1869
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: He was the pill.

1870
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: He's like Billy d Williams. Yeah, he was a nigga.

1871
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: So when I met Denzel, he just he he came

1872
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: down to my level. He was like, look, man, I've

1873
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: been on television. I did this, and I'm just here

1874
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: and we just getting ready to go do this. And

1875
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I never forget. I was in the first scene with him,

1876
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, these really good actors they'll laugh

1877
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: and joke and they go action the bamn, they'll hit

1878
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: their cares. Actor. No, that's not method, Okay. Method acting

1879
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: is when the dickheads. Yeah.

1880
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 4: I was on the set with a method actor and

1881
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: I called him his real name, and I'm Joe.

1882
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Like when it's crazy, they won't there that person, they

1883
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: won't break, Like if they're playing a drug addict, they

1884
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna go out and sleep with real drug acts and

1885
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: come to work dirty and all that old buttleh.

1886
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: Fuck that acting is lying. Acting is lying.

1887
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 1: Like if I say if I said, the next person

1888
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: who comes in the door, make him convince him you're

1889
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: my manager. That's acting, right. So they said what do

1890
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 1: you learn how to act? I'm like, stand in front

1891
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: of a jug. I mean, Denzel was talking and he

1892
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: was joking. Then they said action and then Nigga jumped

1893
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: into character on me and I flogged my line and

1894
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Nigga did like this. He was like, come on, nice,

1895
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: what's that? And I was like, oh, that's how we're

1896
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: getting down. Like he's shown me like, come on, like

1897
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: we can we joke, but I'm gonna hit my line.

1898
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: So that's when I was like, I want to learn,

1899
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: just like that dude on the Ricochet.

1900
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 1: But that's when I'm my first chance learning somebody who

1901
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: could you know when actors do that? And that was

1902
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: then Zel, it's almost like they going through their legs

1903
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: with the ball they playing with you. They're like, I

1904
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: already acting Pam and they hit the ship and then

1905
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: they'll come out of and start telling other jokes. You're like,

1906
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: whoa's some dope ship right here?

1907
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1908
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 4: So I always wanted to learn how to act like him,

1909
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 4: and uh, you know that. But Denzel wasn't like he

1910
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 4: wasn't the oscar Ward winning that that.

1911
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: But to a bum nigga like me, he was.

1912
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: I was like nobody in the acting world.

1913
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: I was a rapper. Like, how the hell am I

1914
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: even on screen with Denzel Washington? Really? You know?

1915
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 2: So I'm one of my keys is humility and bought

1916
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 2: to kick y'all out the hold this whole side of

1917
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 2: the section B smoke and ship niggas is hitting wax

1918
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: and all. I gotta pay for this.

1919
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get any money for that, Like

1920
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: New jack City. I gotn't get twenty six thousand dollars

1921
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:18,440
Speaker 1: New Jackson.

1922
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: And paid it paid.

1923
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: You get Royal t eighty million, eighty million bucks probably

1924
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: one hundred million by now, I know, no royalties. I

1925
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: got paid scale my first movie. And that's just how

1926
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: it goes. That's it.

1927
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 8: Yeahs and and that that's not that's not That's just

1928
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 8: how the game they couldn't used, but it's what it

1929
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 8: took them to the next level.

1930
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.

1931
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: How do you negotiate? You have no leverage?

1932
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: Who are you?

1933
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 1: They'll get another nigga, They'll get motherfucking a cake. They

1934
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: put chuck in a fucking wig. I know even there

1935
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: they d in there wrapping. You know, I knew everybody

1936
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 1: knew that replaced you. So so after that, when I

1937
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: went to go see Joe Silver, I thought I was

1938
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. So I walked to there. I'm like, yeah, well,

1939
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: you know a last movie, you know made a lot

1940
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: of money. You know what I'm saying. I know I'm

1941
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: about to get paid. Now, he goes ice Tea, you've

1942
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: done one movie, stuck it to me again. So that

1943
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: movie I got like forty eight for less work this rick.

1944
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: I didn't get any money in movies until I did

1945
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: tank Girl, where I played the kangaroo.

1946
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even hear a tank What is this movie? Movie?

1947
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: A movie called tank Girl with Lori Petty and I

1948
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: played a I played listen I'm doing. I'm making a

1949
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: movie with Keanu Reeves called Johnny Neumonic. I'm in Canada.

1950
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: So I get a call from my manager. She said,

1951
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: will you play a stripper in Arizona? I said, you

1952
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,959
Speaker 1: want to fucking right, I'll play a stripper in Arizona.

1953
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: So that night I did like two thousand set ups.

1954
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna be right. Yeah, I'm ready

1955
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: to get my sex, said going. So the next day

1956
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: they send me a picture this kangaroo and it was like,

1957
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I strippers a kangaroo? They

1958
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: know you're a ripper.

1959
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: Stripper a ripper, A ripper is a mutated person.

1960
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's theme of the movie. The movie's Tanker

1961
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: and she sounds so generic. I was like, yo, am

1962
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: I not with Keanu Reeves? They need it? I mean,

1963
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? And they told me

1964
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: how much money I was getting. I was like, I've

1965
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: learned the bunny hop. No, that was that my first

1966
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: I got a nigion dollars and you ain't never seen it.

1967
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, if you google Tanker right now,

1968
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:59,600
Speaker 1: I look crazy, right Huh. It's like it's like a

1969
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: mute because he called a mutated person and they it's

1970
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: it's about like some sci fi ship. Yeah, like a

1971
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: fight over water and tank girl iced tea. You're gonna

1972
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: see a picture of me the game.

1973
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 4: Okay, So while we pulling it up, Yeah, I want

1974
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 4: to respect my brother Charlie, Charlie's brother for twenty.

1975
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 2: Years, and he can. He dove right into it. Look

1976
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: at this, Look at his pictures. We're gonna see that's me.

1977
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 2: But you got a million for that.

1978
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty two days, twenty two days in that ship

1979
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: that cjer is that No, that's that's Stan Winsy, that's

1980
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: Stan Winston. That's five piece applications. That's all same, that's crazy.

1981
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: Watch you gotta put it on the cameras. Fucked that movie.

1982
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: We gotta show it to the cameras. So now, yeah,

1983
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: that was tank Girl. So that was you know, and

1984
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: and the thing it was.

1985
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 1: And now I'm at this point where I'm just taking

1986
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're coming in

1987
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: so I'm like, shoot, you know, I'm starting to make

1988
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: money now finally.

1989
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 4: So now you consider that, you consider the actor. You're

1990
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 4: killing every role you get. Then cus I comes see

1991
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 4: Law Order.

1992
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 2: The same ship to me, I'm so sorry.

1993
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: Can do that, y'all?

1994
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 4: Take a shot.

1995
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 2: Every time we say relaxed, Yeah, if you if you're

1996
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 2: watching it, take a shot. Listen. So Law and Order Doom, doom. Yeah,

1997
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: the sounds that they come to you and they say

1998
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 2: what they say. Okay, little pre pre story.

1999
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 1: At my first time working with Dick wolf Food, the

2000
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: executive producers that is in New York Undercover. Yeah, make

2001
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 1: I was at I was at my house in l A.

2002
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Hold hold on, hold on, hold on, Benzina, come on,

2003
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? What's over? You don't even want

2004
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,919
Speaker 2: to ask him for that? Buttery fingers? You have buttery fingers?

2005
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 3: Yo?

2006
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Menzino you live on the podcast?

2007
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: Zo up.

2008
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: We're here with Ice Team.

2009
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: What's up?

2010
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Benzino's Ice? What's happening?

2011
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Baby?

2012
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 2: Here with Ice Team?

2013
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: What? What's good? Man?

2014
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: All that you in New York?

2015
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2016
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 2: All right, and this out we have five forty one Lexington.

2017
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm the w Hotel. Come through.

2018
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: Okay, cool?

2019
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: You know my last name? Right?

2020
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2021
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Don't see how they treat me so so New York

2022
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 2: got the cover.

2023
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: I was with Fab five Freddy in my house and

2024
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: well you on New York Coach the cover as well.

2025
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: I was on three times. I played a guy named

2026
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 1: Danny Yup and Andre Hirel was talking to Fab five Freddie.

2027
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Fab five was like, I'm at ice teas crip, he said,

2028
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: put ice tea on the phone. He's like, yeah, you

2029
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: gotta come on my show, New York Undercover. Andre was

2030
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: part of that. I'm like, I told him, nigga, that's

2031
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: a rip off of New Jack City, you know, New

2032
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 1: York Undercover.

2033
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 2: I said, you, what's that? Too young?

2034
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's why I'm here to clarify.

2035
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: So so anyway, he's like, yeah, well come on the show,

2036
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, you know I don't. I'm

2037
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 1: doing movies now, nigga. And then he was like, oh

2038
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: a rights, you too big?

2039
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 2: Now you know how they do that?

2040
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Like, I was like, all right, well, give me a

2041
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 1: bad guy role and I'll play it because I've been

2042
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: playing poly I said, give me a bad guy role.

2043
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: So there was this role called Danny Up.

2044
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: I played it.

2045
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: I get a call from Dick Walking, we don't want

2046
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: to kill you. At the end of the episode, will

2047
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: you do more? And I fought with him. We renegotiated

2048
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,839
Speaker 1: and got a better room. Move me from a bullshit

2049
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: hotel to the four seasons. I did two more episodes.

2050
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I shot, I shot Maligo, Malik Yo was Earl and

2051
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: I just wowed out. So after I did that show,

2052
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: I did a show for him called Swift Justice. I

2053
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 1: played a bad guy. I did Law and Order. I

2054
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 1: played a pimp. They killed me with a bowl and pin.

2055
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 1: Then I had a show called players on TV. That

2056
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: was my own show with costas Man Lauren Frank Hughes. Okay,

2057
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: when those shows were over, Dick Wolf, he says, I

2058
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 1: wish I had a stronger vehicle for you, right, meaning

2059
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 1: you got it. But so I'm like cool. So I

2060
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: was back in l A doing my business, doing my ship,

2061
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: trying to create iTunes. I was trying to create MP

2062
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 1: three bass that we could put rap music on and

2063
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: people could get it go straight to MP three.

2064
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 2: Niggas was looking at me like what is MP three?

2065
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 2: Niggas was like that'll never work. Never, never work.

2066
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't getting rid of these CDs. So I'm like, no, Niggas,

2067
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: it's a digital f I was like, niggas like this

2068
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: before Napster after that. It was during the time Napster

2069
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: was doing it. But my thing was, I will take

2070
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: your album. I would digitally. I was gonna create iTunes.

2071
01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: I would take your album. I would put it onto

2072
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: a website where we would download it for money. iTunes

2073
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: stones where I was.

2074
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 2: I was yeah, and I was gonna and.

2075
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: Not only that, I was gonna do it regionally were

2076
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: to be a map. What the fun man?

2077
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:28,600
Speaker 2: Hello, let let's look yours up, Let them up, Let

2078
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 2: them up?

2079
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 1: All right? All right?

2080
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.

2081
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: So, so my thing was it had a regional map,

2082
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: so if you could go to like if you were

2083
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, it would have show all the rappers from Pennsylvania.

2084
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 1: So it would break it down regionally because I knew

2085
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: hip hop was regional, so you could do it. But anyway,

2086
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: that was I was creating when I got the call

2087
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 1: the dude s for you, and uh, I said no, Okay,

2088
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 1: I said no because I had fifteen employees, I had

2089
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: a databases, I had servers. I was trying to go

2090
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 1: and then my boy, we had a little problem in

2091
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: La where one of my buddies has set me up

2092
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 1: to get robbed. Yeah right, now he's no longer with yeah,

2093
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: so so, but basically one of my friends who I

2094
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: looked out time to prison. He sent some people up

2095
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: to my office and it was a robbery that took place.

2096
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: So everybody finally figured it out, and it was a

2097
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 1: little hostile moment. Everybody was worrying about what's going on,

2098
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: and then then we figured out who did it, and

2099
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: it was tension, you know, tension and shit.

2100
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: You know, my daughter was in the room.

2101
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: It was. It was an ugly situation.

2102
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: It's in my book.

2103
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: I wrote it in my book. So when it happened,

2104
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: one of my boys from sixties, when they called an emperor,

2105
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: he was he with me every day.

2106
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,560
Speaker 2: So he was like, said, they offered me to do

2107
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: the show.

2108
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: He said, get out of town, man, get out of town.

2109
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, fuck it, it's four shows. It's what we're

2110
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna rob. You is some money here, like you know,

2111
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: like you know, we weren't making no money yet in

2112
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: the business yet. And he's like, I got this, So

2113
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: I came out here to do four episodes for SVU

2114
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: and it's been eighteen years. But then also the negative

2115
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: negativity is also one of the reasons he say, gonna

2116
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,879
Speaker 1: shake to New York because of all this dramas going.

2117
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 4: On, because you know, how hard was it to adapt

2118
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 4: to New York because right now you like just as

2119
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 4: much as a New York Nigger than me.

2120
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, I always loved New York. I always loved New

2121
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 1: y I was actually born in Newark, New Jersey. My

2122
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: mother passed when I was in the third grade. My

2123
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: father when I was in the seventh. I lived in Summit,

2124
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: New Jersey over there with my father, and then I

2125
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: left to go to La when my father died, and

2126
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: I was in La ever since my aunt his sister,

2127
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 1: so I lived out there with them and stuff.

2128
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: So this brought me back. Music brought me back.

2129
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I was coming out here to get because because to

2130
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: me being a rapper, I had to get the coast

2131
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 1: sign of New York. You can't be a rapper and

2132
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: not have New York's coast sign.

2133
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 2: As far as I was concerned, already, happy birth I'm

2134
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 2: gonna get up. Let's say happy birthday. You got a

2135
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 2: good pony on.

2136
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: Right now to.

2137
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 2: Havy birthday, my brother you were doing. I'm gonna take

2138
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: a whole.

2139
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 3: Hands what.

2140
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 2: Brother love? We like half through my life story here

2141
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 2: these guys, and that's good. That's good.

2142
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's better for it to come from my

2143
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 1: mouth to somebody continue please that bullshit. So when you

2144
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: moved to l A, Yeah, yeah, so that that was.

2145
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: That was when I moved to Cali with my aunt,

2146
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: and you moved directly to where you lived in Cali. Well, no,

2147
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: or no, I was living when I moved out there.

2148
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: I was living in an area called View Park, which

2149
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 1: is above Crenshaw and Vernon. It's like a nice area.

2150
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: It's up in the hills, and I used to I

2151
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 1: got bused to a white junior high school called like

2152
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: you kind of situation. He was in Palms Junior High School.

2153
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Crenshaw High School was right down the streets. So when

2154
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I got to high school, I said, I ain't catching

2155
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: the bus. And that's when I walked into the Shaw

2156
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: and uh, that's what I say, an original gangster. How

2157
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: I was introduced to the gangs. And I did a

2158
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 1: song because that's how I'm living. I said, you know,

2159
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,759
Speaker 1: I was born in New Jersey. I said it before,

2160
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: but against nobody heard me. My mother died young, no

2161
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: sisters or brothers. I was the only son when I

2162
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 1: I was young. My pops died too. What's a nigga

2163
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: supposed to do? They sent me out west to live

2164
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 1: with my aunt. I guess they thought that was the best.

2165
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: But there was no love there and grown with no moms,

2166
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,879
Speaker 1: I guess I was prepared to live in a vacuum.

2167
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: The bedroom, the kitchen, in the hall, the bathroom. I

2168
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: didn't leave home much. I didn't like LA. I didn't

2169
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 1: have no friends to trust. I got bussed to a

2170
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: school blacks and whites. I guess the shit was cool,

2171
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: but by high school I changed. I didn't want to bust,

2172
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want to play the game. I walked the

2173
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: crunchy'll high. Shit was fly. I hooked up with a

2174
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: new crew, some niggas that knew act like they knew

2175
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 1: what the fuck to do. Now you may call it

2176
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: a gang, but we called it a set, and it

2177
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 1: was our own thing. The whole school was down, and

2178
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 1: one way or another, everybody fucked around, whether hardcore or not.

2179
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: You wore the right color, yeass got shot.

2180
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 2: Ran.

2181
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's how I ended up out there. So anyway, yeah,

2182
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 1: I ended up on SVU eighteen years and uh bless her.

2183
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: It was a very you know, the negative situation. Along

2184
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: with my buddies insight.

2185
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 2: It's just what do you think about Dave Chappelle when

2186
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 2: he made the skin about that.

2187
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's a genius. It's it's gonna be hard to

2188
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 1: find somebody as funny. It's Dave Chappelle. Like every once

2189
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 1: in a while a comic genius comes out, like I

2190
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: lived through Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy, but Dave Chappelle

2191
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: just hits comedy from some other angle that niggas ain't agree,

2192
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,679
Speaker 1: ain't it's just abnormal. Like, you know, I'm a fan

2193
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: of everybody, you know, I was just you know, I

2194
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: love everybody. I was asked with Kevin Hart the other day.

2195
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 4: But Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, if you don't bring your

2196
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 4: your monkey ass on here.

2197
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Mark's cool man.

2198
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin's a businesspell Evin, Chris Rock, all them.

2199
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: But Dave bro Dave's comedy is is different. See Dave's natural.

2200
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2201
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: It's something different though, and he and he, I mean,

2202
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: we did the player haters ball. He doesn't give a

2203
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: fuck who writes that ship? But nasty, I'm gonna go

2204
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 1: home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl.

2205
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,719
Speaker 2: Who writes ship? Like? What was the event you? Actually?

2206
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: I spent at an event in Miami. I think it

2207
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 2: was the player Was it the player's ball in Miami

2208
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 2: at Luke's Club?

2209
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a player's ball. Probably.

2210
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 3: I was DJing I have a picture and you're like

2211
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 3: right next to me and told me you want you

2212
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 3: wanted to rhyme and you're like play shook Ones part two?

2213
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, rhymed in that spot.

2214
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the one spending. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

2215
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 2: I have a picture.

2216
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what's.

2217
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 2: I don't have it all a real picture.

2218
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2219
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 2: I think me and Coco were in there that night,

2220
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is where I was gonna go.

2221
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:51,799
Speaker 4: Before we go there, I'm I probably think You're probably

2222
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 4: the first rap album I might have ever jerked off.

2223
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,879
Speaker 2: It was the cover the same time.

2224
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 1: That that was Power, Well you know what it was.

2225
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: It was it was just like nobody was doing it.

2226
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 1: Nobody was connecting sex, you know, the guns and all that,

2227
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is part of it.

2228
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 2: Luke did it, but he didn't do it like he

2229
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 2: didn't gain somewhere he did.

2230
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 7: We did it and that was artistic actually the way

2231
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 7: you did when we did yeah the front of the Back, Well.

2232
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 1: That was the second album I did it on. Ryan

2233
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 1: Tay's darling was in the car with us, like in

2234
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: a in a bathing suit and me and Evil were

2235
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: in a Porsche and we had a palm tree and

2236
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 1: we were trying Glenn Friedman shot that and we were

2237
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: trying to say this is Cali. We wanted that to

2238
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 1: say California. When the time I did the Power album cover.

2239
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: I was dealing with power, like the three the three

2240
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: levels of power. One sex, that's the biggest power, right,

2241
01:48:55,560 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: so you see her. The next power is weapons, sex,

2242
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 1: money and guns, so you see the weapons. And then

2243
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: the next power is deception. And when you turn it

2244
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: over you see me and evil was strapped. So I

2245
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 1: feel deception is the ultimate power because you never know

2246
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: who's giving it to you.

2247
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, you, I think you fired me, but really

2248
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: he called the shot. He walked away.

2249
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: So people that work in that realm of deception and

2250
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 1: and and that's a that's the awesome business. You don't

2251
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: know where the shot comes from. And that's the scarier power,

2252
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I was dealing with on

2253
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: the album. Because of course Darlene looked incredible at the time.

2254
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: The niggas you're saying, Darlene, but we don't know that.

2255
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 2: Darlene was was my that's my son's mother.

2256
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: And I've never been married before, but that was my

2257
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: son's mother at the time, and you know, me and

2258
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 1: her still got a good relationship, I think.

2259
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but your son, yeah.

2260
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2261
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: But you know, at the time, I was I was

2262
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: in a world where I thought I thought you had

2263
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: to be real. Thought you couldn't lie. So I didn't

2264
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 1: know you could wear other people's jewelry. I didn't know

2265
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: you could say. I didn't know you could have a

2266
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: girl on the album covered it wasn't your gun. I

2267
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 1: didn't notice everything.

2268
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 7: I didn't know.

2269
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't know I had to shoot in my own house.

2270
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I had to. I didn't know that that. Oh that's

2271
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 1: what I say. The Gats in my promo shot props.

2272
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, so I I didn't think that was okay,

2273
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 1: and you know I was. I ran my career, but

2274
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: I ran my career based on those principles. If you know,

2275
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: I said I don't when I said I don't wrap

2276
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: about Gats, Iron got hose.

2277
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 2: Iron caught.

2278
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, guns, I ain't shot. The game to me

2279
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: is too fucking deep. If I did, honestly believe, I

2280
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: die in my sleep. If I don't have it, I'm

2281
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: a rap about not having it right now, you know,

2282
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 1: until I get it.

2283
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 2: But this was duck down.

2284
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 3: We will.

2285
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Shorty. Yeah, that's my god.

2286
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me just tell you somebodic tea.

2287
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, me and Compone we

2288
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 2: met in jail. We never ever ever.

2289
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 4: In jail, said we're gonna come home and rap right,

2290
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,719
Speaker 4: me and this foul nigga, And I'm a foul nigga

2291
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 4: to him. It's my brother though, my brother.

2292
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: But we came home.

2293
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 4: We was in jail, in jail saying we're gonna flip

2294
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 4: some cocaine. Absolutely, I came home and Capone was rapping,

2295
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 4: and it was just like I was like what And

2296
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 4: I was rapping too in jail. But we ain't never

2297
01:51:55,000 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 4: really share raps. So we had this whole altitude we

2298
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 4: had embarked on. But and this is the reason why

2299
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 4: I named it Gainst the Rap or reality Rap. If

2300
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 4: it wasn't for you, they probably wouldn't be us. And

2301
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 4: that's real ship because when I look at the history

2302
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 4: and sometimes I could google something, I hate googling because

2303
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 4: I like to remember from what and the first original

2304
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 4: person that ever spit reality rap, Gainst the Rap, whatever

2305
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 4: it is is you.

2306
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, and we all owe you, not just we

2307
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 2: didn't know how to be fake, either of them. Yeah,

2308
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

2309
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

2310
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: We didn't know that. That's okay.

2311
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 13: We didn't know you could do a photo shoot and

2312
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 13: have a fake gun. You did a photo shoot for

2313
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 13: the vibe. You had a real gun and it went

2314
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 13: on and it went and it went off.

2315
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 2: But I don't understand it at all, this one.

2316
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't understand how people can get on Instagram and

2317
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 1: all that in line and talk about ship but then

2318
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 1: all the friends see it and they know it's not real,

2319
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: but their friends let them do it, so their friends

2320
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: fake too.

2321
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 2: They're going along with this. They checked by the lights.

2322
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: If the lights there are, that's the reality. But you

2323
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: gotta have balls to do that.

2324
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 1: Actually me to put a picture up of me saying

2325
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: this is my house and the niggas know that.

2326
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 2: What kind of person is that? You got Instagram police?

2327
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 2: That's catching motherfuckers too.

2328
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 3: Boy.

2329
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking.

2330
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 1: About your friend that I'm talking about your friends. Like

2331
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: I was held accountable for every lyric, every lihime like Ice,

2332
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: you know, come on, Ice, nigga, yo, what you know?

2333
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: I had to make sure I stayed within the lines

2334
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: because my niggas would have laughed me out of town

2335
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 1: maybe like come on, Ice, you know, And my homie said, Ice,

2336
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: you don't never have to lie because you live such

2337
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: an incredible life.

2338
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 2: You don't have to it, just within it.

2339
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: If you don't you know, people ain't gonna believe most

2340
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: of the stories I tell.

2341
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 2: I need a nigga right here. This the code SIGNE

2342
01:53:58,120 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: half the ship.

2343
01:53:59,200 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 13: You know.

2344
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 2: So people, but I don't get it now. I just

2345
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 2: look at people when.

2346
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 4: I would like to ask you hip hop now, what

2347
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 4: is your what is what is ice feelings on hip hop?

2348
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's held to the same same

2349
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,480
Speaker 1: rules or same standards.

2350
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: When I got in hip hop isn't held to the

2351
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 2: same standards as it is when you saw.

2352
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: Nothing but but but but. I think when I got

2353
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 1: into Wrap, I understood. You know, people that brought me

2354
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: in mail and everybody cheese to me, they said hip

2355
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: hop requires skill. That's what I did in the Art

2356
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: of Wrap, my movie. I said, it requires skill. You

2357
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: have to be have skill to be a breaker, a

2358
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: skill to be a rapper, skill to be a DJ.

2359
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 3: Right.

2360
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Once you lower the bar to where there's no skill,

2361
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 2: it's no longer an art form.

2362
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: It's all yeah. So I came in when niggas would

2363
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 1: call you whack and you had to take it like

2364
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: you act, or you had to get better. You try

2365
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: to get better. It's now to me, it's kind of

2366
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: like dance music. It's kind of like disco. It's just

2367
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: beats and the productions, some of the some of the productions.

2368
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I'm being honest.

2369
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: I can go into a club. I can go into

2370
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 1: a club and listen to trap beats all night long

2371
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: and I'm rocking. I mean, that's the sonic, the sound,

2372
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: the production and everything, but the lyrical context.

2373
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Everybody starts just calling me Jack Juller, you live on

2374
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 2: the podcast with Iced Tea and John.

2375
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Make get out of here. You know what up?

2376
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 2: Iced team?

2377
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 1: What up? Jack? I'm a fan man.

2378
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: I was with Jack and the Bronx. You know where

2379
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: you at? Hey, Ali, Ali, Ali know the address? Come through? Hey,

2380
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 2: we got to come up with the right all right,

2381
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 2: all right, all right, I break some and vodka.

2382
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 1: Goddamn it. I make niggas turn off their phones when

2383
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 1: they in my house.

2384
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 2: No, you know what, you know what, let me tell

2385
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 2: you some ice. They don't accumulate more. I haven't said

2386
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 2: this the whole interview. And one thing, one thing, one

2387
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 2: thing that I have to say to you is ice.

2388
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 4: Although I give the same love that you give to

2389
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 4: me to younger artists, but you not have ever been

2390
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 4: obligated to give me any love that you always gave me.

2391
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 2: Because I'm a fan. But it's real though I'm not.

2392
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not.

2393
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 2: Let me let me keep let me.

2394
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 4: Keep bigging you, let me keep bigging you up, because

2395
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 4: Ice you always had our back from the beginning, like

2396
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 4: you're one of them guys. Listen, you one of them

2397
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 4: guys that I know. I call and I know you're

2398
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 4: gonna respond. I know you're going to be and you

2399
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 4: know I always haven't been able to to do what

2400
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 4: I gotta do. But when I've been at the lowest,

2401
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 4: the medium, the highest always.

2402
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 2: Been in my corner. Because real niggas ain't one to

2403
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 2: show up at the party.

2404
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: Niggas.

2405
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 2: Real niggas meet you in the parking lot in the

2406
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 2: rain with the pistol. Thank you. I want to thank you.

2407
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 2: We'll go to my soldier boy.

2408
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 4: Hold on, but before before I get to the soldier boy,

2409
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 4: because I want to know who you.

2410
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Got in the fight.

2411
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 4: But before that clown asked niggas, before that, I would like, well,

2412
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 4: you didn't let me finish.

2413
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, you didn't let me finish. I was I was,

2414
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I was saying the music now sonically is incredible, but

2415
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: it's I just feel its lack of the lyrical content

2416
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 1: that I think that they're wrapping. They're rapping fast and

2417
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 1: wrapping stuff. But I'm not taking nothing from it. I'm

2418
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 1: not now. I listen to Jay Cole the other day,

2419
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: he got his record, and that's the only thing. I

2420
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 1: just think that, although you're a star now and you're rapping,

2421
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: take a minute and make a record and try to

2422
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: move somebody, like, try to change somebody's life with it.

2423
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 2: I understand it.

2424
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you got the baddest bitches, You got

2425
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 1: the money you hire all the time. I got that,

2426
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 1: But what else is there? Anything else is now some people,

2427
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: there is nothing else. It's just getting money. And I

2428
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 1: grew up with cats like that. It's just getting money.

2429
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 1: But some people got it in them to try to

2430
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: help and move And if that's any you do it.

2431
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 2: But you change my life. Ice, You changed my life.

2432
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 4: One day somebody asked you and said, well, Ice, when

2433
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 4: you're dropping something, and you said, I don't want to

2434
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 4: drop something because everybody's dropping mixtapes for free.

2435
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to spit my game for free. And

2436
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 2: that ship totally fuck.

2437
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 4: I was like, he said, if you notice, it's only

2438
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 4: East Coast niggas that do the mixtape game for free.

2439
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: West Coast mixtapes. They drop mixtapes, they sell these nips.

2440
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 2: We killed of people will.

2441
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 4: Sit back and say the downfall, the downfall of New

2442
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 4: York was, whatever, the downfall of New York was.

2443
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 2: We downgraded the old it self so many people.

2444
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 1: And I said that one day and nobody paid attention.

2445
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: But there was a website called Daft Pith okay right,

2446
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 1: we put out a thing called the Anti Mixtape. They

2447
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: were dropping twenty free mixtapes a day on that website.

2448
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was like, yo, this is so diluted.

2449
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 2: Now there's no value. Your down labels are suing them

2450
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 2: for that.

2451
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 1: But still it's like yo, man, I mean like, if

2452
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: this is your business, then you gotta hold and you

2453
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:46,839
Speaker 1: gotta take its content.

2454
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 2: You can't just give it away.

2455
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 1: I never threw out a free mixtape since it's ridiculous.

2456
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing, especially somebody like you's

2457
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 1: already known. I mean, if you knew, you might have

2458
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 1: to mixtape, but I don't, don't. And then how did

2459
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 1: the producers get paid when you're giving away.

2460
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 14: Nobody, you just you just do yourself in the same

2461
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 14: person that didn't put half the work you put in

2462
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 14: the game.

2463
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 1: You put yourself on the same level as them when

2464
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 1: you have a mixtape.

2465
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 4: But that's why you gotta have producers that's lawyer like

2466
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 4: Hazardous Sounds, s b k H, Scram Jones, Incredible Cuts, you.

2467
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 2: Know, people like that because because I'm not getting no

2468
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 2: money or for this, it doesn't work either. So you

2469
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 2: got to have people that's willing to take that risk

2470
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 2: with you.

2471
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 6: But mind you this components. When you said that ice,

2472
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 6: it changed my mind.

2473
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: On your house from queens Bridge. You stop that queens man.

2474
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 2: Why does your vapor smell like room boys smells good?

2475
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 2: It was like old Spanish pussy. I'm just keeping it real.

2476
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 2: It's just like some noise some old man. But you

2477
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 2: know is crazy your please? You can text me the

2478
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 2: picture when you rock it. Please? What is it that's that's.

2479
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 1: Giving away.

2480
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 2: The shirt? Our interview with you is so perfect.

2481
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 4: Giving way just say to you right now, your I

2482
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 4: I just can't thank you enough because I know you

2483
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,080
Speaker 4: humble and you and and.

2484
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 1: The is going on.

2485
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 2: You guys, hey, but what but keep going, man going.

2486
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 4: You saw him, and I just want to thank you

2487
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 4: because you know why, and I know you don't give

2488
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 4: a fuck. I know you're a real nigga, but you

2489
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 4: know what I feel is real nigga should be saluted nowadays.

2490
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, fake niggas had their time.

2491
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why me and my partner right

2492
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 4: here starting this podcast.

2493
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 2: But you can feel it is we want to.

2494
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,520
Speaker 4: If you notice, we've never interviewed not one new guy,

2495
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 4: and if you interviewed the new guy, he came with

2496
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 4: an old And you know what, only this is the

2497
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 4: only generation in the world that when you become old,

2498
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 4: they kick you out with the first roll that you

2499
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 4: can still do it jazz, you can still do it,

2500
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 4: shouts up my main game.

2501
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 2: You could be sixty seven.

2502
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: Pop stars get more love for longer, and hip hop

2503
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: is the only things.

2504
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 2: So you know what for me and my partners, that's

2505
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 2: why I got a rock album now.

2506
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 4: But listen, but you ain't got to have a ten

2507
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:10,840
Speaker 4: million You just sticking with hip hop and you know

2508
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 4: you album just.

2509
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 2: As well. Sometimes you gotta snuff, you know, but this

2510
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 2: birthday you can't get mad. This is what drink champs

2511
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 2: Is drink chants.

2512
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 4: We want to salute our legends because there's no other

2513
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 4: platform to salute our legends. Like right now, if you

2514
02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 4: say I'm going to do the hottest podcast quote unquote.

2515
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 2: They want to They want to get jay Z, they

2516
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 2: want to get Nas, they want to.

2517
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 4: Get Drake, they want to get all these people. That's

2518
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 4: not what we started out to do. We wanted to

2519
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 4: support our legends. You know, meet me myself, like the Raptors.

2520
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 1: I liked.

2521
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:55,360
Speaker 2: One of the prerequences was what I like to hang out?

2522
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 1: Would you know? I wanted to roll with rock Cam.

2523
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to hang with Big Daddy came. I want

2524
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 1: to hang around Compona no yea ray Kwan and want to.

2525
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 2: Hang with Easy. Give us an easy East story that

2526
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm told.

2527
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Nah, that's easy easy, well, easy game was. He always

2528
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 1: tried to tell people he was fifteen, shut up.

2529
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 2: Fifty five, come out. I know you don't come out.

2530
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 1: She's just wild out in the hotel room. Some stuff.

2531
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen Easy. You know the ladies that

2532
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: be cleaning the thing. It's like tackle a chick like.

2533
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 5: Like this.

2534
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 2: Before niggas was getting charges and stuff, niggas just wilding

2535
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 2: out but not you know, Easy was a good dude.

2536
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was the street member of

2537
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 1: the group. He funded that group right after.

2538
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 2: He said that.

2539
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

2540
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you other people names and I

2541
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:57,080
Speaker 4: just want to see you wanted to continue.

2542
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 1: To Easy with I know Easy. I mean, there's not

2543
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: think of it as Easy. He has passed away, so

2544
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of odd to talk about him. I'm not

2545
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna say no Wild.

2546
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm actually a couple of people who have pastor. But

2547
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 2: I got wild story because you got you got, you

2548
02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:12,760
Speaker 2: got story. Arrested Jams, j Well Jam talking about Jam Messenger.

2549
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 1: Jay was Jay was another person who was like the

2550
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 1: most authentic like part of Run DMC, Like he was

2551
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 1: a street cat. So I would always actually like somehow

2552
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,480
Speaker 1: they would gravitate to me and we would end up

2553
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 1: talking and stuff like that. But Jay was a solid dude.

2554
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing that no one called who killed him.

2555
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 1: That's just amazing that somebody of that caliber, that's like

2556
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 1: somebody from like the one the Super Bowl, like Tom

2557
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 1: Brady get killed, nobody knows about it.

2558
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy.

2559
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 14: And the thing, you know what's crazy they talk about

2560
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 14: not solving big all on one second, they talk about

2561
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 14: not solving big murder, not SolV a park park murder,

2562
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 14: but they never talk about not solving Jamster Jay and

2563
02:05:58,800 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 14: he was just as.

2564
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 2: Pen and jay Z.

2565
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:05,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, jay Z, I mean jam message

2566
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 1: Jay and run DMZ. Remember you're talking about the moment

2567
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: with you. That was the moment that made me really wrap.

2568
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 1: Like I went to a concert they had and they

2569
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 1: had everybody put their deeds and jam J was on

2570
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 1: a riser and they had lasers and ship and I

2571
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 1: was just trying to rap and I was like, Yo,

2572
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 1: this ship is rocking.

2573
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 2: Run yo.

2574
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 1: I like to know that because we had always been

2575
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 1: doing it in the basements and the little clubs and

2576
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: ship and when I seen that, I think I went

2577
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 1: home that night and wrote like twenty raps Like I

2578
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, they run DMC.

2579
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 2: Let me understand.

2580
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 1: This was big. Yes, business a bit, but it was

2581
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: bigger than the basement and the small clubs hip hop

2582
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,840
Speaker 1: were okay, So I'm going a little bit all over

2583
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: the Yeah, Tac I knew pop when he was in

2584
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,200
Speaker 1: Digital Underground. Yeah he was dancing.

2585
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 2: And it's that difference between dig underground. You could see.

2586
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: Tupo warned. I remember we were at a Soul Train awards.

2587
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 1: It was me and Dre and we were sitting at

2588
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 1: a table and Pock walked by. You say, d told

2589
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 1: them dot dr Dre. He just can't just say Drake,

2590
02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, as a stupid doctor Dre and and

2591
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:25,320
Speaker 1: Pock walked by. And at that time he wasn't Tupac yet.

2592
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was Treach or somebody. But he

2593
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 1: looked at the table and I could see he wanted

2594
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 1: to sit at the table, you know, I could see it.

2595
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: And then as he started to make his move as Tupac.

2596
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:40,959
Speaker 1: I remember one time, see Pop was doing some strange

2597
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 1: things like all right, like he hooked up with the

2598
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:46,440
Speaker 1: cats in in South central fifty second to five Deuces,

2599
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 1: which was rated.

2600
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 2: R and holds no no, I'm about to kick the

2601
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 2: produce out.

2602
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 3: But got go.

2603
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 1: He cooked up with raided all and they created that

2604
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:02,960
Speaker 1: thing Thugee, which was based in south central l A.

2605
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 2: L A nothing homies in Jersey. No no no, no,

2606
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 2: no no, no. Doug life was rated R and and

2607
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 2: uh macadocious.

2608
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 1: They were out of l A right, And then you

2609
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,600
Speaker 1: know he evolved from that, and then when he got

2610
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 1: into trouble out here, that's when Shug came in and

2611
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 1: got him out. But I remember one time I was

2612
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 1: in l A and Pop pulled up on me in

2613
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: a car with like this crazy ass chick, like some

2614
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:34,480
Speaker 1: like strawberry bitch in the front seat. He had.

2615
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's how I noticed this of my brother.

2616
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:39,960
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I said in my mind.

2617
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 1: Strawberry is basically Brons did get off for crack, Like.

2618
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.

2619
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,600
Speaker 1: It's a l A street saying for like a crackhu. Okay,

2620
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 1: So this broad, I know it wasn't his woman. I'm like,

2621
02:08:58,200 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 1: what is this bitch doing in the car?

2622
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:00,680
Speaker 2: She already you know.

2623
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 1: But he's getting high and he had weeds. He had weed,

2624
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:07,200
Speaker 1: he had gun, and he wanted me to sit in

2625
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 1: the car and listen to his record. I'm like, nigga, are.

2626
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 2: You riding around?

2627
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,240
Speaker 1: Like like are you serious?

2628
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 2: Pop? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, oh gee,

2629
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,240
Speaker 2: so you know, let me just take me.

2630
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 4: He was trying to impress you, even if he wasn't

2631
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 4: trying to press you, because every time I hang out.

2632
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 1: With you, Yeah, I tried to impress But he was.

2633
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:28,720
Speaker 2: He scared me.

2634
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, pop, man, this

2635
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 1: is crazy. But I'll tell you some real inside ship.

2636
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:36,320
Speaker 2: He was in my house.

2637
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,160
Speaker 1: I had a studio called the Crackhouse, and he was

2638
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 1: at my house with the outlaws, a couple of the outlaws,

2639
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,280
Speaker 1: and he played me hit him up and I didn't

2640
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 1: like it, and I was like, you're gonna start something.

2641
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 2: You didn't like what he was saying.

2642
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like him starting to beef. I was like, dog,

2643
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:55,680
Speaker 1: you knew I was going to go. I said, you're

2644
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 1: going in on dude's.

2645
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 2: Wife and all that.

2646
02:09:57,600 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, He's like yo. And then at

2647
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,040
Speaker 1: that time, he thought Big had shot him and I

2648
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 1: was like, yo, woll you can hear it. I wouldn't

2649
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: you ain't for the handling that with a record? Really

2650
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 1: are you?

2651
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 5: You know?

2652
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:11,840
Speaker 1: So we kind of was on bad terms with that

2653
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 1: because he wanted me to ride with him, but I

2654
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't, you know, And so that we

2655
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:19,480
Speaker 1: was we was kind of like in that zone when

2656
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:20,160
Speaker 1: he got killed.

2657
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 2: What he was saying on that record, was he saying

2658
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 2: that that was reality or was he saying, I'm just

2659
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 2: a record.

2660
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 1: It's a Brecord, you know, talking about but just a

2661
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 1: B record, Like if you're gonna set it and you

2662
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 1: setting it yelling West Coast, you shouldn't have set this.

2663
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to turn into a real situation,

2664
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 1: you know.

2665
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2666
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 1: You know I'm not out wrapping you. I'm threatening you.

2667
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking yeah, and.

2668
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm like yo.

2669
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,760
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I mean, are you really even

2670
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 1: to go there? You know, I'm sitting back like who

2671
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be.

2672
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm older.

2673
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is this is you know.

2674
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 2: But he wanted me going like yeah, yeah, yeah, this

2675
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,360
Speaker 2: is good ship, let's do it. So yeah, this man

2676
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 2: is he saying that he's smash faith. That's what I'm doing.

2677
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 2: You heard but he said that he's sash You heard

2678
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 2: the rec he said it. But was he in the studio?

2679
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 2: Was he saying this is true?

2680
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 9: Wasn't?

2681
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:13,200
Speaker 2: No, No, we didn't get there.

2682
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 1: I just listened to the playback and was like, dog,

2683
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 1: that's I don't know, he's a general too much.

2684
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 2: It's not a good idea.

2685
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 1: Plus I'm cool with New York, Like, yo, you knew

2686
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:28,800
Speaker 1: what it was gonna create absolutely New York though, But

2687
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 1: it was gonna cause a crazy in all all bullshit aside,

2688
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:36,120
Speaker 1: right if you think it, maybe shot you while you're

2689
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 1: making a record street ship right, Okay, so we went there.

2690
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 1: You handle this with a record, okay. But he wasn't

2691
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: ready for that, and I wasn't really trying to send

2692
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 1: him on noment. I was just trying to get it,

2693
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 1: get it, come on, man.

2694
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:57,200
Speaker 2: But as an O G should like yes from school.

2695
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but but anyway, long story short, you know,

2696
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:02,600
Speaker 1: I love pop. Pop was a good kid. I remember

2697
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:04,880
Speaker 1: one night shot G came and knocked on my door

2698
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, you need to talk to

2699
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:09,480
Speaker 1: pop and he said, you like one of the only

2700
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 1: people he'll listen to. And they was like, yo, you

2701
02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 1: know he gonna he's ain't listening to me at that time.

2702
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 1: So you know, he kind of got caught in the song.

2703
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 1: See when you're when you're not in the LA gang

2704
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:25,200
Speaker 1: scene and you come to l A and they embrace you, Yeah,

2705
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:30,080
Speaker 1: it's you're not necessarily safe, you know, And it wasn't

2706
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:31,840
Speaker 1: where he was supposed to be. Like, you know, you

2707
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,360
Speaker 1: you make records, you should be on your way out

2708
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,480
Speaker 1: of the game. You shouldn't be making records and then

2709
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,880
Speaker 1: going into it, you know, because you're making flyers like

2710
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 1: a stream. Nigga has the power of animinity. Who shot him?

2711
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 1: Pooky Low? Who's Pooky Low? Nobody fucking knows who shot him?

2712
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:52,480
Speaker 1: Iced Tea Iced Ta gonna be on this flyer, He'll

2713
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:55,360
Speaker 1: be right here. You know. You no longer have that

2714
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,680
Speaker 1: ability to disappear into the hood. Niggas could pop up

2715
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:01,120
Speaker 1: on you any motherfucker where. So you gotta let that

2716
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:03,840
Speaker 1: ship go. You gotta let that shit go. You're no

2717
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 1: longer in the underworld. Now you're part of the mainstream,

2718
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:09,240
Speaker 1: and you gotta you have to behave like that.

2719
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 4: So did you did you actually see like after that,

2720
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,480
Speaker 4: did you see that park was going down the road

2721
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:17,560
Speaker 4: that wasn't necessarily.

2722
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't, you know, it was just not a

2723
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 1: good place to be, uh, you know, but you know

2724
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 1: he was rolling with Sugar. Sugar got him out of

2725
02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:27,760
Speaker 1: jails with everybody had turned thy back on the truck

2726
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:30,040
Speaker 1: when he got caught in that mess, Sug came and saved.

2727
02:13:30,160 --> 02:13:33,840
Speaker 2: Now, what was your relationship with show Sugar was nw

2728
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:35,600
Speaker 2: A's bodyguard and.

2729
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:39,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, but he rolled with them and being Sugar

2730
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 1: always had a cool cool like understanding no beef because

2731
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:47,560
Speaker 1: we did no business. But you gotta understand, Sugar is

2732
02:13:47,560 --> 02:13:52,280
Speaker 1: a football player and he basically had at connections to

2733
02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 1: the mob or the mob the cats in his neighborhood

2734
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 1: where he's from, and they were bloods and he surround.

2735
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 2: Himself with a gang of bluzz so that was power

2736
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:03,000
Speaker 2: and and something.

2737
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:07,240
Speaker 1: But then again, my boys they were like, we the

2738
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:10,680
Speaker 1: other side, so that don't matter to us. And I

2739
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:13,080
Speaker 1: got niggas as big, big as Shug, So it's like,

2740
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:14,160
Speaker 1: what's happening?

2741
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:17,400
Speaker 15: And before you fucked me up with that one, my

2742
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 15: boys was the others, like you know, for the rap game,

2743
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 15: all they knew was Sug at one point.

2744
02:14:22,840 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 1: That's but but but see, I'm not operating as as

2745
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:40,200
Speaker 1: that type of a militia. They got go yeah, you know, yeah,

2746
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:44,440
Speaker 1: but you know, it's like okay, and that's chugging. We

2747
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:48,600
Speaker 1: we everybody was cool, everybody understood everybody. Everybody had their limits.

2748
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,200
Speaker 1: But me and Sugar have never shared a negative word.

2749
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 1: He was very respectful in areas and we respect each other.

2750
02:14:55,640 --> 02:14:59,200
Speaker 1: We we aren't enemy, so to speak. But then at

2751
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:03,280
Speaker 1: the same time, from two different sides of the gang world,

2752
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:06,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying I'm from a crypt side. Okay,

2753
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:09,880
Speaker 1: So they like, whatever, can I.

2754
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:17,040
Speaker 2: Your question with this is going to a different stuff

2755
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 2: when we talk about beef. What was the deal with you?

2756
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:24,360
Speaker 2: L L said I crushed more dre man Ice Tea girl.

2757
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:35,800
Speaker 15: Well, what happened was, L I had asked that because

2758
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:44,120
Speaker 15: I mean, not that I know of, not that I know,

2759
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:48,440
Speaker 15: because because Ice Tea is a real nigga, I just

2760
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:50,880
Speaker 15: want to that was like that was that was.

2761
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:52,800
Speaker 2: Equivalent to Biggie and parton.

2762
02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no that I didn't take it like that.

2763
02:15:55,520 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 1: What happened was with with with him was he was

2764
02:15:58,640 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 1: just saying he was the greatest effort ever. And I

2765
02:16:01,960 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 1: was coming out from the West Coast, and how was

2766
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:06,640
Speaker 1: I going to be able to be taken seriously if

2767
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:09,040
Speaker 1: I let someone say they were the best. So I

2768
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:11,880
Speaker 1: had to wrap my I was just like, fuck, whoever

2769
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:14,880
Speaker 1: you think you are, nigga? You know, I had a

2770
02:16:14,920 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 1: whole coast on my back. So I was like, let's go.

2771
02:16:17,560 --> 02:16:17,720
Speaker 5: Now.

2772
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 1: Whether I thought I could actually beat him rapping whatever,

2773
02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:24,160
Speaker 1: but I had to stand my ground, and I thought

2774
02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:26,080
Speaker 1: I might have been able to be more clever than him.

2775
02:16:26,080 --> 02:16:30,400
Speaker 2: Who knows, but it was no. That shit got shut down.

2776
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:34,920
Speaker 1: Bam. I'd actually shut down that wrap beef because damn

2777
02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:38,440
Speaker 1: because June, because l L wanted to be part of Zulu.

2778
02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:42,400
Speaker 1: And there was a moment where they were asking me,

2779
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, if it's up to me, you know,

2780
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:46,280
Speaker 1: me and him, it's kind of beef and and ship.

2781
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:50,000
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, cool, yeah, because

2782
02:16:50,000 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 1: Africa Islam put me in the game. I'm catching on

2783
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:04,040
Speaker 1: them right, so so l you know, but it was

2784
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 1: just record ship. It wasn't. It was just he was

2785
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:09,360
Speaker 1: a better rapper. Wasn't threatening each other's lies and ship

2786
02:17:09,440 --> 02:17:10,880
Speaker 1: and all that. And I did this and that, and

2787
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:14,240
Speaker 1: I think he said I took the record the thing

2788
02:17:14,360 --> 02:17:15,600
Speaker 1: to the bathroom or whatever.

2789
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:19,199
Speaker 2: But you know whatever, you know that's not ground some murder.

2790
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 2: So now that you're both like TV.

2791
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:28,680
Speaker 1: By storm like yeah, both the rapes.

2792
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 2: That, how does that? I ran into L and Monte Carlo.

2793
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 2: We were doing what's up?

2794
02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:37,080
Speaker 1: What's up? All right?

2795
02:17:37,240 --> 02:17:44,199
Speaker 2: To see all right, what's going on over.

2796
02:17:47,480 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 1: Ben Zenos in the I was watching TV. I saw

2797
02:17:50,680 --> 02:17:54,279
Speaker 1: you get shot on TV. I was like, your relatives

2798
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:58,280
Speaker 1: shot you crazy? Shot?

2799
02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:08,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Let's get this.

2800
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:12,400
Speaker 1: We went we went money Carlos doing a television convention,

2801
02:18:13,320 --> 02:18:16,120
Speaker 1: and uh I chopped it up with L L. And

2802
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,640
Speaker 1: you know it was like yo, man at the back

2803
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:20,320
Speaker 1: in them days, this is what we had to do.

2804
02:18:20,560 --> 02:18:23,520
Speaker 1: We had to stay in our ground, no disrespect, and

2805
02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:26,240
Speaker 1: we shook and everything. But I had this recently. This

2806
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 1: happened maybe five years ago.

2807
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 2: Up to that point, I had n't crossed the L

2808
02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:31,600
Speaker 2: L's path, nothing like that whole time.

2809
02:18:32,480 --> 02:18:34,240
Speaker 1: We don't have to. You know, we live in different

2810
02:18:34,280 --> 02:18:35,440
Speaker 1: coasts and you know.

2811
02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:35,800
Speaker 16: But.

2812
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:41,320
Speaker 2: Hollywood didn't bring you all like like what about you?

2813
02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:45,800
Speaker 2: What about mod? Did you cross? I love no when

2814
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:49,640
Speaker 2: that happened, did you ever we gotta? It wasn't.

2815
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:50,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

2816
02:18:50,720 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't that serious.

2817
02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:54,960
Speaker 1: It was rap ship. It was rap ship. It was

2818
02:18:55,080 --> 02:18:57,440
Speaker 1: never that serious. It was just like I could rap

2819
02:18:57,480 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 1: better than you.

2820
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:03,480
Speaker 4: Know, as a as a young dude coming up and

2821
02:19:03,560 --> 02:19:06,080
Speaker 4: then as a young dude coming up like embarrassment.

2822
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:10,480
Speaker 17: Come on, man, lies that young dude coming up right,

2823
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:13,280
Speaker 17: So I see you like you? You you were that

2824
02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:15,680
Speaker 17: soldier boy fors rap. You're like, yo, that ain't real

2825
02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:17,160
Speaker 17: hip hop or whatever, blah blah blah.

2826
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:20,280
Speaker 18: Like I agree with you because I come up under

2827
02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 18: seeing nigg upon the North. I know, real hip hop,

2828
02:19:22,720 --> 02:19:25,520
Speaker 18: but I'm taking it as like he's a young boy

2829
02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:28,039
Speaker 18: coming up trying to use a platform just to make it.

2830
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:29,960
Speaker 2: Out the hood. So it's like I feel like if

2831
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,039
Speaker 2: I was him, like I'll be hurt to.

2832
02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 1: Hear that first, because like I look up to you, like,

2833
02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:35,240
Speaker 1: why are you gonna shit on me?

2834
02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make it out feed my fan. Okay,

2835
02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:39,040
Speaker 2: there's a backstory to that.

2836
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:40,080
Speaker 1: This is what happened.

2837
02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:42,800
Speaker 2: This is why we were talking about phones off and cameras.

2838
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:45,360
Speaker 1: So we were I was making a mixtape for one

2839
02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:47,880
Speaker 1: of my homemies in the hood, right, This dude just

2840
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:51,400
Speaker 1: a regular nigga. I'm on his wrap rapping for him

2841
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:54,280
Speaker 1: free right. So when I get into the booth, the

2842
02:19:54,440 --> 02:19:57,720
Speaker 1: niggas start like like saying, niggas don't want to hear you.

2843
02:19:57,920 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 2: They want to see Soldier boy.

2844
02:19:59,240 --> 02:20:01,360
Speaker 1: They want to they pumping me up then using this

2845
02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 1: ship to get me hot.

2846
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:04,360
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, they don't want to hear you. Nigga

2847
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:08,720
Speaker 2: didn't want Hurricane Chris nigga. They hit my g bone.

2848
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, whack ass motherfuckers, And I went on a

2849
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:15,640
Speaker 2: rant and I licked you up.

2850
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:18,240
Speaker 1: I went on a ramp and the niggas taped it

2851
02:20:19,400 --> 02:20:20,880
Speaker 1: and put it out and put it on in the

2852
02:20:20,959 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 1: front of their mixtape. So I'm in fuck them. So

2853
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:26,200
Speaker 1: that was That was one of my iced t old

2854
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:28,760
Speaker 1: man rants. It was he was never supposed to hurt it.

2855
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:32,040
Speaker 1: So now I'm in Arizona mine and my business. My

2856
02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:34,760
Speaker 1: son goes soldier boys on the internet talking shit about you.

2857
02:20:35,879 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what so pearing that they playing the

2858
02:20:38,600 --> 02:20:42,760
Speaker 1: tape back keep listening. So now I'm like, well, I

2859
02:20:42,879 --> 02:20:46,080
Speaker 1: can't back down. I did say this ship yea. So

2860
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,840
Speaker 1: now I'm out there, so let me verify, let me

2861
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:50,880
Speaker 1: break down what I said. And I just told the

2862
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:53,920
Speaker 1: nigga break straight up, nigga, this is how I feel

2863
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,960
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah and what and then rest

2864
02:20:57,080 --> 02:20:57,560
Speaker 1: is history.

2865
02:20:57,879 --> 02:21:01,320
Speaker 2: But at the time, I felt the bar was starting

2866
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:01,800
Speaker 2: to drop.

2867
02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:04,600
Speaker 1: And I just think that once again, there needs to

2868
02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:07,320
Speaker 1: be a degree of difficulty in hip hop that always

2869
02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:09,840
Speaker 1: has been there and that's what makes it something special.

2870
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:12,920
Speaker 1: There's something about a star. A star is something you

2871
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,400
Speaker 1: can't reach. That's why Michael Jordan is a star. You

2872
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:16,160
Speaker 1: can't reach it.

2873
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 2: And that's why we look up to him.

2874
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 1: But when you're doing something that everybody can do, you

2875
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:23,320
Speaker 1: not really a start and doing what anybody can do,

2876
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:26,680
Speaker 1: show me something I can't do, and you get to praise.

2877
02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 1: So you know, God blessed soldier boy. But you know

2878
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:34,959
Speaker 1: this is what I do know. Niggas will end up

2879
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,600
Speaker 1: in their own ship if that's what they deserve. So

2880
02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:41,760
Speaker 1: now you're seeing this guy and looking where.

2881
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:43,920
Speaker 2: His life is. You see them saying, so.

2882
02:21:46,280 --> 02:21:49,840
Speaker 1: You you don't really gotta do nothing to nobody. They

2883
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:52,320
Speaker 1: gonna end up where they're supposed to be because of

2884
02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:53,080
Speaker 1: their actions.

2885
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:56,360
Speaker 2: So you know, God bless you. But now we want

2886
02:21:56,480 --> 02:21:57,160
Speaker 2: to you know, try.

2887
02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:01,320
Speaker 14: That's like, that's like if you ever heard about the

2888
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:05,280
Speaker 14: laws of Murphy, what can happen will happen, And that's

2889
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 14: what murphys Murphy.

2890
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:09,080
Speaker 2: And let me just tell you something you want to do.

2891
02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:13,640
Speaker 1: Any gang brother, your guy, you know the history in

2892
02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 1: this room, man.

2893
02:22:14,280 --> 02:22:18,959
Speaker 2: You know said, yeah, you know ice Icey could killed.

2894
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:33,200
Speaker 1: Hold on.

2895
02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 2: Whatever it was. It was real because.

2896
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:42,119
Speaker 1: Real ship though, and I respect it because.

2897
02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 2: Hold on fare the table I got to spent on you.

2898
02:22:47,879 --> 02:22:50,360
Speaker 2: It was real because like like I remember when we

2899
02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:52,920
Speaker 2: had the artist call and we was on Timmy Boy

2900
02:22:53,640 --> 02:22:57,280
Speaker 2: and When Time and which is now owned by Warner Bros.

2901
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 16: Right right, exactly the same time. But it's crazy because

2902
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:02,320
Speaker 16: it all happened at that time. But when he came

2903
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:03,880
Speaker 16: out with the cop Killer song, you know, we just

2904
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:06,000
Speaker 16: got it down. Tommy Boy grew from Boston, you know,

2905
02:23:06,320 --> 02:23:08,520
Speaker 16: got a little single deal. We put a song out

2906
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:11,000
Speaker 16: called one the Chamber. So when the Chamber, we talked

2907
02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:13,520
Speaker 16: about two kids who had got killed in Boston, and

2908
02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 16: the police got over with it whatever, you know what

2909
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:17,920
Speaker 16: I'm saying, shot shot dude under a car, shot and

2910
02:23:17,959 --> 02:23:19,039
Speaker 16: other dude in the back of the head, and they

2911
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:22,280
Speaker 16: got over with it. So we ended up getting dropped

2912
02:23:22,280 --> 02:23:26,640
Speaker 16: from Tommy Boy because the Boston Police Patrol's associated had

2913
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:27,120
Speaker 16: suited us.

2914
02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:28,200
Speaker 1: So I forgot.

2915
02:23:28,240 --> 02:23:31,400
Speaker 16: There was an interview and it was something that I

2916
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:32,640
Speaker 16: fo don't know if you did an interview, if I

2917
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:35,000
Speaker 16: did an interview, and it was just something because since

2918
02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:36,680
Speaker 16: he had the cop Kill song and we got with

2919
02:23:36,760 --> 02:23:39,680
Speaker 16: the cop that was trying to compare things and it

2920
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:41,640
Speaker 16: was saying that I said, well, as far as I know,

2921
02:23:41,879 --> 02:23:44,840
Speaker 16: you know, even though of course I see legend in

2922
02:23:44,879 --> 02:23:47,120
Speaker 16: the game, but the song from my understood was kind

2923
02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:49,560
Speaker 16: of rock. It was rap rock, you know what I'm saying.

2924
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:51,480
Speaker 16: I said, it was kind of different. I said, you know,

2925
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:53,080
Speaker 16: I said, we didn't. I said, oh, it was just

2926
02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:55,520
Speaker 16: a rap song. We was just pretty much talking about

2927
02:23:55,879 --> 02:23:57,480
Speaker 16: you know. I mean it was almost like the same thing.

2928
02:23:57,560 --> 02:23:59,560
Speaker 16: But we went out and did a show at the

2929
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:00,680
Speaker 16: Earth of an Empathey.

2930
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:03,760
Speaker 1: So it's just the five of us. You know, we

2931
02:24:03,800 --> 02:24:05,360
Speaker 1: don't have no security nothing this ship.

2932
02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:07,040
Speaker 16: So it was four of us, plus we had this

2933
02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:09,160
Speaker 16: little Jamaican nigga that did on the hook for one

2934
02:24:09,160 --> 02:24:10,000
Speaker 16: of the songs or whatever.

2935
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:13,800
Speaker 1: So when when when when I had K came with

2936
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:15,920
Speaker 1: mad Man, This was the time I guess where they

2937
02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:19,680
Speaker 1: was trying to squash the crypt the truth. He had

2938
02:24:19,720 --> 02:24:22,560
Speaker 1: like a hundred niggas with. I'm like so like one

2939
02:24:22,600 --> 02:24:23,480
Speaker 1: of the niggas was like, yo, I.

2940
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:28,240
Speaker 16: See over off Man, I said ship sometime I think right,

2941
02:24:28,280 --> 02:24:29,720
Speaker 16: I'm like, fuck right, I mean niggas.

2942
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:33,119
Speaker 1: Look on my side of the story was this when

2943
02:24:33,160 --> 02:24:36,240
Speaker 1: the ship happened, the word got out that R. S

2944
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:39,280
Speaker 1: O said that we I was the reason they got

2945
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 1: dropped right right right. But that's that's how it came

2946
02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:44,240
Speaker 1: at me. So they was like your r s O

2947
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:46,560
Speaker 1: said something about you act the way so like like

2948
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:49,640
Speaker 1: I was telling them in my I keep every winter

2949
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:51,960
Speaker 1: breast of who he might have beef, this, that and

2950
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 1: the other.

2951
02:24:52,440 --> 02:24:53,280
Speaker 2: So I think r RS.

2952
02:24:53,360 --> 02:24:55,360
Speaker 1: So it popped up on our radar, like kid, it's

2953
02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:58,200
Speaker 1: rs OL. Niggas says some fly. So then I'm at

2954
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:02,080
Speaker 1: the place and they go there, they go right. But

2955
02:25:02,200 --> 02:25:04,640
Speaker 1: we felt it though, because I was like, look, I said, look.

2956
02:25:04,520 --> 02:25:07,080
Speaker 16: I said, look, I said, man, I said, we gotta

2957
02:25:07,080 --> 02:25:10,560
Speaker 16: stay together, and said nobody wants nobody run.

2958
02:25:11,080 --> 02:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm giving a fuck what happens. We're gonna get mopped

2959
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:16,800
Speaker 1: up together. Somebody run. We got a problem. Like the niggas.

2960
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:19,039
Speaker 16: The little Jamaican nigga was like, oh, I didn't even

2961
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,360
Speaker 16: like he was like, what the fuck did I get myself?

2962
02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even like.

2963
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:29,760
Speaker 2: We wasn't in that mode. They just identified him.

2964
02:25:29,959 --> 02:25:32,039
Speaker 1: So I'm walked over to you remember no no, because

2965
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:34,240
Speaker 1: your man came. He was like, I t want holler.

2966
02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:36,320
Speaker 16: So I said, I'm gonna go this like I said,

2967
02:25:36,320 --> 02:25:37,880
Speaker 16: I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna go talk to

2968
02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:40,000
Speaker 16: the old. We went over that top and I never

2969
02:25:40,040 --> 02:25:40,400
Speaker 16: forget this.

2970
02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:40,960
Speaker 1: And you said that.

2971
02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 16: She was like, look, man, I ain't got no beef

2972
02:25:43,440 --> 02:25:45,200
Speaker 16: for nothing. He says, Man, you see these nigga that's

2973
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:47,240
Speaker 16: the great street, this, that, and that. I'm looking out.

2974
02:25:47,520 --> 02:25:49,320
Speaker 16: I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm looking at it like

2975
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:51,880
Speaker 16: I see it. He's like, man, fuck that. He's like,

2976
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 16: let's go kill some cops together.

2977
02:25:54,800 --> 02:25:58,879
Speaker 2: That's what you said. I was like going to the ship, like, look,

2978
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:03,440
Speaker 2: I know my beat is not with you. I beat

2979
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:04,040
Speaker 2: you out with you.

2980
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:09,160
Speaker 1: And also, I never I never, I never really took

2981
02:26:09,560 --> 02:26:13,199
Speaker 1: secondhand information. You know, if somebody say you said something,

2982
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:15,160
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna get you and I'm gonna see if

2983
02:26:15,160 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 1: you'll say it again, you know, because that cause niggas

2984
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:19,760
Speaker 1: get killed over secondhand information.

2985
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:20,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't real.

2986
02:26:20,760 --> 02:26:23,040
Speaker 1: So if I can't walk up to Ben and say, yo,

2987
02:26:23,120 --> 02:26:25,160
Speaker 1: what's really good? But I was really more or less

2988
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:28,400
Speaker 1: like I ain't mad man. That shit went bad when

2989
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:30,959
Speaker 1: my shit got banned, shit went bad for a lot

2990
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:34,080
Speaker 1: of people, you know, and everybody said it was my fault.

2991
02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this shit is real, right, we're real. Like,

2992
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:38,920
Speaker 1: so if you guys have had heated at the cops,

2993
02:26:38,959 --> 02:26:41,080
Speaker 1: then let's go get down. Because I was always like

2994
02:26:41,160 --> 02:26:43,039
Speaker 1: that with niggas. I'm like you so quick you kill

2995
02:26:43,080 --> 02:26:45,959
Speaker 1: another homie over an orange soda, but when they come you.

2996
02:26:46,120 --> 02:26:47,960
Speaker 2: Run like where's your gangster?

2997
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:51,600
Speaker 1: Still to this day, yeah, they had the American flag

2998
02:26:51,640 --> 02:26:54,560
Speaker 1: with all red and blue. Remember the stage turn like

2999
02:26:54,680 --> 02:26:55,320
Speaker 1: that was history.

3000
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:57,439
Speaker 16: A lot of people didn't even like that wasn't documented,

3001
02:26:57,520 --> 02:26:59,480
Speaker 16: but you had the bloods and clips on stage.

3002
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:01,800
Speaker 1: They had American from a big flag. It was big.

3003
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:06,240
Speaker 16: It's about as many niggas more than here, So it

3004
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:08,320
Speaker 16: was I mean, it was that was an ill moment.

3005
02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:10,640
Speaker 16: It was a moment where LA was and I commend

3006
02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:12,320
Speaker 16: you for that. That was big to do that that

3007
02:27:12,480 --> 02:27:14,240
Speaker 16: that hadn't been done before as far.

3008
02:27:14,160 --> 02:27:16,320
Speaker 1: As I knew. You know, I wanted to try to

3009
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:20,040
Speaker 1: get the l A gangs to stop killing each other.

3010
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:22,600
Speaker 1: I still and this is like all in the same gang. Now,

3011
02:27:22,720 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 1: this is during the ninety two this is the truth?

3012
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Which truth is what's going on that's prior to that?

3013
02:27:28,520 --> 02:27:29,879
Speaker 2: And why were you on that record?

3014
02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:30,440
Speaker 1: Now?

3015
02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:34,240
Speaker 2: That was after I was. I was, after all in

3016
02:27:34,320 --> 02:27:34,920
Speaker 2: the same game.

3017
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:36,920
Speaker 1: But you was the reason Boston started.

3018
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:40,760
Speaker 5: When Colors came out, That's when everything started forgetting about

3019
02:27:40,879 --> 02:27:45,320
Speaker 5: After Colors came everything started was everything started going like

3020
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:47,760
Speaker 5: in take of Boston when Colors came out.

3021
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:50,840
Speaker 16: Then that's when really I noticed Boston started ganging up.

3022
02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:53,160
Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying. It was right after Colors Colors, like,

3023
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:56,200
Speaker 16: I mean, niggas beefing the movie theaters. Nigga was going

3024
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:57,480
Speaker 16: crazy when that ship came out.

3025
02:27:57,480 --> 02:27:59,360
Speaker 1: You know. You know the thing of it is with me, man,

3026
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,960
Speaker 1: that's like, oh d I'm responsible for a lot of

3027
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:06,480
Speaker 1: negative ship that happened. But really I've always been the

3028
02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 1: person that's really tried to get peace. You know, at

3029
02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:12,879
Speaker 1: the end of the day, my message can be misconstrued,

3030
02:28:13,080 --> 02:28:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, because I can go into that mode, but

3031
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:19,280
Speaker 1: that's not really my get down. My get down is

3032
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:21,480
Speaker 1: not that. And when people meet me, they go, wow,

3033
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:24,520
Speaker 1: you so mild, managed you so cool? You know, where

3034
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:26,920
Speaker 1: do all this gangster shit come from? I say, Well,

3035
02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:29,840
Speaker 1: people like me are the ones you gotta look out for.

3036
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,040
Speaker 1: The nigga walking around talking all tough and shit like that,

3037
02:28:33,440 --> 02:28:35,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any power. That's why I don't understand

3038
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:37,039
Speaker 1: why Donald Trump, now that he has all this part,

3039
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:44,400
Speaker 1: needs to kind of fuck because when you have that ability,

3040
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:47,160
Speaker 1: then you don't need to raise your voice on Twitter.

3041
02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:52,080
Speaker 2: You can just become calm because it's it's nothing.

3042
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, so yeah, you know a lot now. Niggas

3043
02:28:54,440 --> 02:28:56,680
Speaker 1: see me now and I'm not the normal rapper. They like,

3044
02:28:56,879 --> 02:29:00,480
Speaker 1: why you ain't. Yeah, I'm like, I don't, don't need to.

3045
02:29:00,480 --> 02:29:00,960
Speaker 5: Be like that.

3046
02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:05,039
Speaker 1: That's all that extra ship right then that's over. It's

3047
02:29:05,400 --> 02:29:08,280
Speaker 1: it's a different life, it's different time, but the same

3048
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:10,480
Speaker 1: ship can happen. Niggas can bring the grammy.

3049
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:16,600
Speaker 4: I just want to I just want to do, you know, appreciation.

3050
02:29:17,240 --> 02:29:20,400
Speaker 4: I've seen my brother ching bing is here, my brother

3051
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:24,439
Speaker 4: bach shows here. I just want to diego Benzino.

3052
02:29:24,560 --> 02:29:27,720
Speaker 2: It's a great podcast going on right Ice, Team.

3053
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Ice.

3054
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:30,800
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough.

3055
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:33,160
Speaker 4: I can never thank you enough for anything you ever did,

3056
02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:36,800
Speaker 4: because you know what, I could never repay you for

3057
02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:37,760
Speaker 4: anything you ever did.

3058
02:29:37,879 --> 02:29:44,280
Speaker 2: Me tell you something for the baking too, man, I

3059
02:29:44,320 --> 02:29:47,199
Speaker 2: can never repay you for anything you ever did to mereak.

3060
02:29:47,360 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 2: And you know how I repay you with that.

3061
02:29:50,360 --> 02:29:52,400
Speaker 4: I repay you with that is because I always do

3062
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:54,160
Speaker 4: something for somebody who could never repay me.

3063
02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:57,200
Speaker 1: That's a game. That's real talk paying for its real

3064
02:29:57,320 --> 02:29:58,200
Speaker 1: talk paying forward.

3065
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:01,560
Speaker 4: Because you're so big, I can't even it's nothing I

3066
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:03,440
Speaker 4: can ever offer you. I can never offer you money,

3067
02:30:03,640 --> 02:30:05,840
Speaker 4: I can never offer you anything. All I can offer

3068
02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:06,680
Speaker 4: you is real friends.

3069
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 2: But it's always a treatment.

3070
02:30:07,959 --> 02:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Players meet, it's always a treat when you get around

3071
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:12,640
Speaker 1: cats to your own caliber and you can chop it up.

3072
02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:15,920
Speaker 1: And it ain't nobody bragging and talking about that unnecessary

3073
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 1: shit because at some point everybody has everything, right, So

3074
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:22,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing to brag about now because we all have everything.

3075
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:25,680
Speaker 1: So now what are you talking about?

3076
02:30:25,800 --> 02:30:26,520
Speaker 2: What have you done?

3077
02:30:27,080 --> 02:30:29,640
Speaker 1: What are you giving back? You know, that's how really

3078
02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:31,880
Speaker 1: wealthy people brag. You know that they talk about how

3079
02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:34,200
Speaker 1: much money they gave away. That's not what they have

3080
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:36,120
Speaker 1: because we all got the gats and books. So what

3081
02:30:36,200 --> 02:30:38,040
Speaker 1: are you giving I'll give away ten million this year.

3082
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:39,760
Speaker 1: I gave back fifty minutes. That's why. That's how the

3083
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,760
Speaker 1: baller's brag. You know, we're still on the niggas side

3084
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 1: trying to get something.

3085
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:45,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We ain't there yet.

3086
02:30:45,959 --> 02:30:49,040
Speaker 1: But my thing is if Ice Tea is really just

3087
02:30:49,120 --> 02:30:51,800
Speaker 1: a person that is trying to show people there's no limits.

3088
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Everywhere you want to go, you can do it. We

3089
02:30:54,959 --> 02:30:58,280
Speaker 1: all come from the hood and you set your own limits.

3090
02:30:58,520 --> 02:31:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you listen to the crowd, gonna end

3091
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:03,360
Speaker 1: up with them. You did, you can just do whatever

3092
02:31:03,440 --> 02:31:06,120
Speaker 1: the fuck you want. And uh, you know, you just

3093
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:08,440
Speaker 1: got to drop a lot of that negative ship. You

3094
02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:11,400
Speaker 1: just got to drop a lot of that boisterous, arrogant

3095
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:12,600
Speaker 1: shit to get you shot.

3096
02:31:13,040 --> 02:31:13,600
Speaker 2: And you get you.

3097
02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:16,760
Speaker 1: You just learn the mellow out. And all of us

3098
02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:19,000
Speaker 1: in this room should live as long as we want.

3099
02:31:19,080 --> 02:31:20,080
Speaker 1: We shouldn't go to prison.

3100
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:20,960
Speaker 2: All that we pass it.

3101
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:23,440
Speaker 1: Once you get out of your twenties, that's the kill

3102
02:31:23,560 --> 02:31:25,080
Speaker 1: zone right there. If you make it out of that,

3103
02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:30,360
Speaker 1: there's no Now you're og. So here's the playing Xbox Nordy.

3104
02:31:30,440 --> 02:31:30,960
Speaker 1: That's all I do.

3105
02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:35,160
Speaker 2: I play one year old. Let me just say this,

3106
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:37,600
Speaker 2: this right, got a one year old on.

3107
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:41,760
Speaker 4: Here's a problem is they never expected us to make

3108
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:45,879
Speaker 4: twenty one. Now after we make past twenty five, now

3109
02:31:45,959 --> 02:31:48,560
Speaker 4: they call us a OG. But back in the days,

3110
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:51,119
Speaker 4: they used to call you a OG after thirty five.

3111
02:31:51,160 --> 02:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Forty, But now they call you a OG twenty. Is

3112
02:31:56,120 --> 02:31:59,720
Speaker 1: that messing up all community? I'm out of too, g

3113
02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:03,200
Speaker 1: understand this, man, I'm on hold, I'm on another channel, right,

3114
02:32:03,360 --> 02:32:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm on the channel it. It's cause niggas I fuck with,

3115
02:32:07,520 --> 02:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I like, and that's the only people I care about.

3116
02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:10,520
Speaker 2: Can you send me that app?

3117
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want?

3118
02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:15,080
Speaker 2: Anything else is.

3119
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:17,440
Speaker 1: Relevant, and they can come up and they can learn.

3120
02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:19,480
Speaker 1: If they don't want to take advice, they can learn

3121
02:32:19,520 --> 02:32:21,520
Speaker 1: the way we learn. You did. What I'm saying might

3122
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:24,959
Speaker 1: have to make detoy through the penitentiary, but they gonna

3123
02:32:24,959 --> 02:32:25,600
Speaker 1: figure it out.

3124
02:32:25,879 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 4: Then.

3125
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:28,160
Speaker 2: If I funk with niggas, I funk with and that's

3126
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:35,240
Speaker 2: the only Let me just tell you something. I can

3127
02:32:35,360 --> 02:32:38,000
Speaker 2: never thank you for anything you ever.

3128
02:32:37,959 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 1: Did for me.

3129
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:40,520
Speaker 2: That's really and you continue to do it for me.

3130
02:32:41,320 --> 02:32:42,680
Speaker 2: You have never fronted on me.

3131
02:32:43,320 --> 02:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate everything. I really love you as

3132
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:50,560
Speaker 1: a person. I love you as an artist. You already

3133
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:50,760
Speaker 1: know that.

3134
02:32:50,920 --> 02:32:54,439
Speaker 4: I know. I can guarantee you when we go downstairs,

3135
02:32:54,600 --> 02:32:56,640
Speaker 4: I can probably know more lyrics than you know to

3136
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:57,280
Speaker 4: your own ship.

3137
02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Stop it. No, no, no, no, that was.

3138
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:04,680
Speaker 2: Because the way he called his verses. No, he really knows.

3139
02:33:05,840 --> 02:33:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take that.

3140
02:33:08,360 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, Ice Team, big up

3141
02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:11,800
Speaker 4: to your beautiful wife, Coachy.

3142
02:33:11,959 --> 02:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything is good. We're not gonna ask you no

3143
02:33:13,879 --> 02:33:16,039
Speaker 1: Coco questions and none of that right. You know why

3144
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:21,640
Speaker 1: this is hip hop right? So to me, well, you

3145
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:22,200
Speaker 1: love it.

3146
02:33:22,760 --> 02:33:24,840
Speaker 2: You open that door, You open that.

3147
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Door, you open that door.

3148
02:33:32,240 --> 02:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, but your wife, Chanelle is in the building. I

3149
02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:41,599
Speaker 2: got a one year old daughter, look y'all beautiful.

3150
02:33:42,800 --> 02:33:43,760
Speaker 10: Like you.

3151
02:33:44,760 --> 02:33:45,360
Speaker 1: I was happy.

3152
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm happy.

3153
02:33:46,360 --> 02:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm just very fortunate to still be here, to still

3154
02:33:49,400 --> 02:33:51,240
Speaker 1: be in the game. I never wanted to be at

3155
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the top of the game. I just always wanted to

3156
02:33:53,000 --> 02:33:55,440
Speaker 1: be in the game. Just bubble, you know, and just chill.

3157
02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn fifty nine. You know, I didn't

3158
02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:02,560
Speaker 1: know that, Nigga. I'm standing the waist, handsome in the face,

3159
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:03,039
Speaker 1: nig you know.

3160
02:34:03,080 --> 02:34:03,400
Speaker 5: What to do.

3161
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna know you for fifty one. So so

3162
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:16,920
Speaker 2: just from that age, just from my age.

3163
02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 1: My perspective is going to be a little bit deep.

3164
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:20,920
Speaker 1: Of course, the people I grew up with is a

3165
02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 1: little bit different. So that's kind of like, you know,

3166
02:34:23,320 --> 02:34:25,280
Speaker 1: you say you cut from a different cloth. I'm cut

3167
02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:30,200
Speaker 1: from a different cloth. So I hold that code that

3168
02:34:30,480 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 1: all that I've always held it. And I was telling

3169
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:36,040
Speaker 1: them earlier, the only thing you leave on earth is

3170
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:40,360
Speaker 1: your your reputation and respect that I've earned.

3171
02:34:40,760 --> 02:34:41,480
Speaker 2: So my kids.

3172
02:34:42,040 --> 02:34:51,080
Speaker 9: Forget the money, Jack Thriller, were coming down, you're.

3173
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:52,800
Speaker 2: Telling me, But I'm in it like this, right.

3174
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:56,240
Speaker 1: The only thing that that you have in life is

3175
02:34:56,400 --> 02:34:59,960
Speaker 1: your name and your respect and your honor and my kids.

3176
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:01,840
Speaker 2: It's regardless how much money I can live. And it

3177
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:02,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter.

3178
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:05,000
Speaker 1: If my son says I'm a little ice and they

3179
02:35:05,080 --> 02:35:08,440
Speaker 1: say your father was a sucker, then that's his life.

3180
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:11,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna live under that. So if I'm an honorable cat,

3181
02:35:11,920 --> 02:35:13,720
Speaker 1: people are gonna look out for him. They're gonna go,

3182
02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:15,879
Speaker 1: that's your dad, you know, the same way we look

3183
02:35:15,879 --> 02:35:17,800
Speaker 1: out for Biggs kids, the same way we look out

3184
02:35:17,959 --> 02:35:20,600
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm all about. It's by maintaining my

3185
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:24,880
Speaker 1: respect and my honor for my kids. That's all. It

3186
02:35:24,920 --> 02:35:27,600
Speaker 1: ain't about the money. It's not that that shit, you know,

3187
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:29,840
Speaker 1: all that shit comes and goes. It's all about that.

3188
02:35:29,879 --> 02:35:31,880
Speaker 1: As long as you a player has his health and

3189
02:35:31,959 --> 02:35:35,280
Speaker 1: his freedom, anything can happen. Right. If you have your

3190
02:35:35,360 --> 02:35:37,800
Speaker 1: health and your freedom, that's all that matters. So I'm

3191
02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:41,240
Speaker 1: at home playing Xbox, eating cockos. I take my black

3192
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:43,560
Speaker 1: ass the law and order. I come back home. I

3193
02:35:43,680 --> 02:35:45,960
Speaker 1: mod my motherfucking business. I'm trying to stay the fuck

3194
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:48,080
Speaker 1: out the way. I don't want to be on your blogs,

3195
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:50,640
Speaker 1: and none of that old bullshit pop out when I've

3196
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:53,600
Speaker 1: got something to sell. When i'm pushing something other than that,

3197
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm chilling because we all got everything we need.

3198
02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:01,920
Speaker 1: Remember this, we all got every thing we need. It's

3199
02:36:01,959 --> 02:36:05,040
Speaker 1: all about now what you want? And I can't tell

3200
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:06,840
Speaker 1: you what you want. We got what we need. What

3201
02:36:06,879 --> 02:36:08,880
Speaker 1: do you need? A pair of pants and shoes, a

3202
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:10,400
Speaker 1: car and rent and food.

3203
02:36:10,480 --> 02:36:14,360
Speaker 2: That's all you need. Everything else is what you want, right,

3204
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 2: That's all you need. But we got that. So your

3205
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:18,879
Speaker 2: life is based around.

3206
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:20,920
Speaker 1: What you want and and and you don't know what

3207
02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:21,360
Speaker 1: I want.

3208
02:36:21,640 --> 02:36:30,120
Speaker 2: I might just want to chill and watch TV from

3209
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:32,640
Speaker 2: from the bottom of my heart. And I'm gonna speak

3210
02:36:32,640 --> 02:36:36,080
Speaker 2: for my partner as well, both partners. It's kind of awkward.

3211
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:51,520
Speaker 9: This is a religious experience. Attention, but half for all

3212
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:51,880
Speaker 9: of us.

3213
02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:55,120
Speaker 4: We want to thank you because you know what and

3214
02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:58,760
Speaker 4: then and we also understand that you had started your podcast,

3215
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:01,600
Speaker 4: you had dig your podcast, but you need to stop

3216
02:37:01,720 --> 02:37:03,320
Speaker 4: that and come with drink Champs.

3217
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:06,119
Speaker 2: Network fucking with you did I did fifty nine episode.

3218
02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:09,120
Speaker 2: This is what we're doing. I am Shug Night and

3219
02:37:09,240 --> 02:37:12,560
Speaker 2: puff Daddy together. I love it if they had never

3220
02:37:12,680 --> 02:37:14,880
Speaker 2: had bet if Sugar Knight and Puff Daddy got together,

3221
02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:26,960
Speaker 2: this is what drink chat Blackford iss come on to

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Speaker 2: do it all myself.

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Speaker 4: I said, thank you so much because you know why

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Speaker 4: I security.

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Speaker 2: There really isn't no other platform of hip hop.

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Speaker 4: No, we will give real talk, but not only that,

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Speaker 4: we praise our legend, right because every time in our game,

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Speaker 4: after you get ten years, you're finished. And in every

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Speaker 4: other music or genre of anything, after you get ten years,

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Speaker 4: you're a legend. Well come on, man, when you get

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Speaker 4: ten years and hip hop saying you oh it, and

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Speaker 4: we don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: But here that's another place, you know. My I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I met George Clinton, I know George Clinton. We've

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Speaker 1: got telling much money, he got break. He's motherfucking George

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Speaker 1: Clinton absolutely got it, you know.

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Speaker 2: And that's how I mean. You know, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: digtional swoots. Just so you know that you are George

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Speaker 2: Clinton and hip hop makes you you may the kids.

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Speaker 9: This this my kids.

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Speaker 2: This is my children, all all of them. They might

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Speaker 2: not look like it, they all my children. That's dope.

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Speaker 4: That's all my but you are the George Clinton of

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Speaker 4: our hip hop and we're gonna continue to praise you.

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Speaker 2: Keep you alive. Come on, make sure thank you God.

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Speaker 2: Damn I see makes him no drink Camp.

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Speaker 11: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts

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Speaker 11: and executive producers n O r E and d j

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Speaker 2: Listen to Drink Champs on.

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Speaker 11: Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs

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Speaker 11: hosted by yours truly, dj e FN and n O

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