WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 16 0:00:01.270 --> 0:00:05.210 Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz, 0:00:05.460 --> 0:00:08.740 where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.650 sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz. 0:00:13.550 --> 0:00:14.650 Not so fast, my friends. 0:00:17.570 --> 0:00:20.810 Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps. 0:00:20.829 --> 0:00:23.669 Hope you're having a great Wednesday. Better than a growing 0:00:23.730 --> 0:00:25.829 number of NFL quarterbacks. Paul, we have injuries. 0:00:25.850 --> 0:00:27.990 Yeah, we're going to get to that. Kirk Morrison, former 0:00:28.170 --> 0:00:30.690 NFL linebacker, friend of the show, Not So Fast. And 0:00:30.710 --> 0:00:33.610 he covers the Raiders every day. He's in a good mood. 0:00:33.630 --> 0:00:34.830 The Raiders are in a good mood. But we're going 0:00:34.850 --> 0:00:37.220 to talk about some serious situations. Pearl, where are we starting? 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.489 Okay, we can start at a number of teams. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:43.420 Let's go to your favorite team, the Chicago Bears. Caleb Williams, 0:00:43.460 --> 0:00:47.240 of course, hurt his hamstring last week. Tyson Badgen was 0:00:47.260 --> 0:00:49.680 supposed to be the backup. We find out Tyson Badgen 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.269 is in concussion protocol. So that means my guy, my 0:00:53.300 --> 0:00:57.150 good personal friend, Case Keenum, third string quarterback, could start 0:00:57.230 --> 0:00:59.630 Monday night against the Eagles. So I don't want to 0:00:59.670 --> 0:01:02.950 talk to journalists, Paul. I want to talk to Chicago, Paul. 0:01:03.310 --> 0:01:04.590 South side of Chicago, Paul. 0:01:04.610 --> 0:01:05.890 I don't know. South side, north side? 0:01:05.930 --> 0:01:06.370 South side. 0:01:06.810 --> 0:01:10.200 Okay. Put your Bears hat on. What's the reaction in Chicago? 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.860 Oh, I think it's interesting because the reaction in Chicago 0:01:12.940 --> 0:01:14.440 is like in three parts right now. 0:01:14.540 --> 0:01:15.460 If you go to Sunday. 0:01:15.870 --> 0:01:19.910 Bears fans thought their franchise, true franchise quarterback, was hurt 0:01:19.950 --> 0:01:22.110 now for the season. Then they get the good news 0:01:22.170 --> 0:01:24.710 a day later that he's not hurt that badly, and 0:01:24.730 --> 0:01:27.490 it's a grade one hamstring pull, which means week to week. 0:01:27.970 --> 0:01:30.929 So now you're kind of celebrating, but then Chicago media 0:01:31.190 --> 0:01:33.860 and fans went into this complete defensive mode yesterday. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.500 Believe me, I listen to radio there all the time. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.780 And they were protecting Caleb Williams' reputation, and people are 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.600 calling him soft on the internet, inferring he's soft. Even 0:01:43.930 --> 0:01:46.670 People like media people were saying he was soft. And 0:01:46.709 --> 0:01:49.890 it became, hey, protect our guy. Then you get the curveball. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.220 Tyson Bajent, a pretty good backup, has a concussion, is 0:01:53.260 --> 0:01:56.240 in the protocol. He may play Monday night, extra days rest. 0:01:56.740 --> 0:01:58.770 But then you have Case Keenum, who's played a lot 0:01:58.790 --> 0:01:59.170 of football. 0:01:59.210 --> 0:02:00.530 So this is an ongoing saga. 0:02:00.890 --> 0:02:01.470 Absolutely. 0:02:01.730 --> 0:02:04.750 So they weren't having fun with the Internet memes about 0:02:04.790 --> 0:02:08.330 Caleb Williams going off with pumping his fist. It turns 0:02:08.370 --> 0:02:09.270 out he'll be back next week. 0:02:09.350 --> 0:02:11.380 Our favorite, though, was the Pope, who's also from the 0:02:11.419 --> 0:02:14.240 south side of Chicago, trying to fix Caleb Williams like Mr. 0:02:14.260 --> 0:02:14.700 Miyagi. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:15.440 That was our favorite. 0:02:15.900 --> 0:02:17.739 I think people like us could have some fun with 0:02:17.780 --> 0:02:22.320 that because you realize Caleb Williams, it's good news that 0:02:22.340 --> 0:02:24.410 he's not hurt. And we were a little surprised of 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.950 his reaction. But now you're in the position where you 0:02:27.010 --> 0:02:29.620 lost to the Vikings, which was a bad loss. And 0:02:29.690 --> 0:02:32.130 now you have Tyson Bajent, may not play, and your 0:02:32.169 --> 0:02:34.750 third stringer. It feels like too much chaos from a 0:02:34.770 --> 0:02:35.990 team that scored. 0:02:35.650 --> 0:02:36.389 59 points week one. 0:02:36.570 --> 0:02:36.730 Right. 0:02:36.770 --> 0:02:39.010 And there's some Super Bowl hype around the Bears. Obviously 0:02:39.030 --> 0:02:40.269 won the division last year. 0:02:40.290 --> 0:02:41.109 Now, it's funny. 0:02:41.190 --> 0:02:44.450 They played the Eagles last year in Philadelphia. Caleb Williams 0:02:44.510 --> 0:02:46.500 actually had a pretty bad day. His number is 17 0:02:46.500 --> 0:02:51.190 for 36, 154 yards, one TD, one pick. But the 0:02:51.230 --> 0:02:53.890 Bears ran for almost 300 yards. 0:02:53.889 --> 0:02:55.109 281? 0:02:55.110 --> 0:02:57.650 I don't have the perfect— Swift went for 130, and Mnangai 0:02:57.669 --> 0:03:00.470 went for 125. They're two running backs. Two guys over 0:03:00.470 --> 0:03:03.549 125 yards. So that's the game plan on Monday night. 0:03:03.590 --> 0:03:06.090 See, I completely disagree on those from Pearl. And your guy, 0:03:06.190 --> 0:03:08.049 Case Keenum, has played a lot of football. I mean, 0:03:08.150 --> 0:03:10.370 I always think that the Vikings should have stuck with 0:03:10.410 --> 0:03:13.350 him instead of pivoting to another quarterback. I think Case 0:03:13.389 --> 0:03:14.670 Keenum is going to have one of the games of 0:03:14.710 --> 0:03:15.590 his life on Monday night. 0:03:16.139 --> 0:03:16.940 He's 38 years old. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:21.190 I don't think he's started since 2022 or 2023. He 0:03:21.250 --> 0:03:24.310 has to know this is probably my last time starting 0:03:24.330 --> 0:03:26.880 in the NFL and my last time getting the controls 0:03:26.910 --> 0:03:29.179 of a team, a good team, on Monday Night Football. 0:03:29.510 --> 0:03:31.890 I think he both wins this game and plays well. 0:03:31.950 --> 0:03:33.840 I don't think he game-manages this game. 0:03:34.130 --> 0:03:36.460 But isn't that adding pressure for Case Keenum? 0:03:36.540 --> 0:03:38.140 Oh, you mean like this, what I just said? You 0:03:38.180 --> 0:03:40.000 think Case is like, Paulie, pump the brakes? 0:03:40.100 --> 0:03:42.440 Paul, you're like, this is your last game. You better 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.240 play well because you're not getting another shot. 0:03:44.340 --> 0:03:46.040 I think he's a high-end backup. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.980 And we're going to talk about the Giants in a second, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.000 but the Bears have a nice backup system in Bajent, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.080 and then the senior guy, truly a senior guy, 38 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.050 years old. So I look at Case Keenum as... He's 0:03:57.130 --> 0:04:00.010 probably a player coach, not like Udonis Haslam down there 0:04:00.030 --> 0:04:02.430 with the Heat. But he's a guy who's a luxury item. 0:04:02.530 --> 0:04:04.930 And you always talk about when you have a quarterback 0:04:05.030 --> 0:04:07.570 on a rookie contract, you can spend anywhere. They can 0:04:07.610 --> 0:04:09.790 spend a couple mil on Case Keenum. 0:04:10.230 --> 0:04:10.830 Absolutely. 0:04:10.950 --> 0:04:13.590 I have some good numbers encouraging for Bears fans. I 0:04:13.610 --> 0:04:14.559 don't think a lot of people know this. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:15.680 Case Keenum. 0:04:16.029 --> 0:04:19.590 Has played Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio three times when 0:04:19.650 --> 0:04:24.360 Fangio was running the defense. He's 3-0, three TDs, no picks, 72% 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.680 completion percentage. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.380 So he knows this defense really well. 0:04:27.500 --> 0:04:29.340 So we put a positive spin on that. But let's 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.520 say you're a Bears fan and you see Caleb Williams 0:04:32.620 --> 0:04:35.000 and how teams are going after him. How nervous are 0:04:35.020 --> 0:04:37.350 you long-term, even though it might be a short-term injury? 0:04:38.550 --> 0:04:41.590 You're pretty nervous because, again, I looked at the Bears 0:04:41.690 --> 0:04:43.089 as a possible Super Bowl pick. 0:04:43.130 --> 0:04:43.290 Yeah. 0:04:43.490 --> 0:04:45.830 And definitely one of the main contenders in the NFC, 0:04:45.870 --> 0:04:48.070 probably the best team that's not in the NFC West. 0:04:48.430 --> 0:04:49.650 You obviously need Caleb Williams. 0:04:49.710 --> 0:04:52.390 It's like taking Joe Burr away from the Bengals. You 0:04:52.420 --> 0:04:54.460 feel like you can keep afloat, but you can't do 0:04:54.500 --> 0:04:54.980 any damage. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:55.620 Absolutely. 0:04:55.700 --> 0:04:57.980 Okay, Paul, we haven't actually not had this kind of 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.980 breaking news yet in our Not So Fast. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:00.539 You have something? 0:05:00.779 --> 0:05:04.180 We have some breaking news, apparently. I don't have the 0:05:04.580 --> 0:05:07.219 graphic immediately in front of me. It turns out Jackson 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:12.650 Dart's going to undergo season-ending surgery, suffered damage to MCL, PCL, 0:05:13.070 --> 0:05:15.810 and meniscus. Originally, it was reported that it could be 0:05:15.870 --> 0:05:18.670 just meniscus or MCL strain. 0:05:19.010 --> 0:05:21.150 Apparently, he needs surgery. He's out for the year in 0:05:21.190 --> 0:05:21.470 New York. 0:05:21.570 --> 0:05:23.670 What a fascinating story, because if you watch that game, 0:05:23.710 --> 0:05:26.130 Jackson Dart goes in a locker room, and then the, 0:05:26.290 --> 0:05:28.420 I think it's Laura Rutledge or someone was doing that game, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.740 and they said, Dart wants to go back out there 0:05:30.779 --> 0:05:32.660 and play. He's trying to come back out and play 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.180 with severe knee injury. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.880 That was Jordan Renan of ESPN who reported that Dart 0:05:36.900 --> 0:05:37.640 was fighting to get back. 0:05:37.900 --> 0:05:39.779 You saw him on the sideline. He didn't look like 0:05:39.820 --> 0:05:42.180 a guy whose season was over. He was engaged. He 0:05:42.220 --> 0:05:44.279 was walking around okay. I guess not. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:45.789 I mean, that's the one where you've got to talk 0:05:45.810 --> 0:05:47.890 to a football player and say, is that the adrenaline 0:05:48.190 --> 0:05:50.110 and it hasn't kicked in yet? Because that is surreal 0:05:50.130 --> 0:05:52.529 because this is a serious injury. Let's get to the Giants. 0:05:52.830 --> 0:05:55.710 We talked about their plan for the season. Having Jameis 0:05:55.750 --> 0:05:57.690 Winston a month ago would have seemed like a good 0:05:57.730 --> 0:06:00.760 backup plan. He played so poorly, he looked like a 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.839 guy imitating an NFL athlete because he was horrible. If 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.640 he had played C-plus football, they could have gone in 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.820 tied at halftime. If you're the Giants, what level of 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:10.660 hope have you lost? 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:12.420 Oh my God, all hope. 0:06:12.420 --> 0:06:12.670 100%. 0:06:12.670 --> 0:06:12.920 100%. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:13.479 I'm going, done. 0:06:16.089 --> 0:06:17.270 There's nobody on the market. 0:06:17.330 --> 0:06:19.270 They've been talking about a guy they had in camp, 0:06:19.290 --> 0:06:21.510 Brandon Allen, a longtime backup in the NFL. 0:06:22.070 --> 0:06:23.940 Obviously, they're not going back to Russell Wilson. 0:06:23.950 --> 0:06:26.599 That was a disaster last year, even though Russell Wilson 0:06:26.660 --> 0:06:27.740 is probably available. 0:06:27.779 --> 0:06:30.140 But if you're the Giants, you can't trade for a 0:06:30.180 --> 0:06:32.200 good quarterback because you're not ready to compete yet. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.860 That would be like a wasted draft pick. You know 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.180 what I'm saying? 0:06:35.300 --> 0:06:36.200 How about J.J. McCarthy? 0:06:36.860 --> 0:06:38.279 Okay, that could solve problems. 0:06:38.300 --> 0:06:39.500 But that's not going to get you to the Super Bowl. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:40.720 It's not going to get you to the Super Bowl, 0:06:40.779 --> 0:06:42.960 and now you have McCarthy on your roster, and when 0:06:43.020 --> 0:06:44.820 Jackson Dart gets hurt, now you have a mess. 0:06:44.860 --> 0:06:45.800 You're trading for a mess. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.620 Yeah, and there's a lot going on here, too, because 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.930 Malik Nabors is in and out of the lineup. Without 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.320 Jackson Dart there, are you really going to risk Nabors' health? 0:06:52.630 --> 0:06:54.870 You might put him on the side burner for a 0:06:54.890 --> 0:06:56.850 little while. Cam Scadaboo takes a lot of toll. Are 0:06:56.870 --> 0:06:58.469 you going to want to use a lot of Cam Scadaboo? 0:06:58.710 --> 0:07:00.349 Are you already thinking about next year? 0:07:00.570 --> 0:07:01.390 I think you have to. 0:07:01.430 --> 0:07:03.150 I think if you're the management or the GM of 0:07:03.170 --> 0:07:05.330 the Giants, you think, This may just not work out, 0:07:05.410 --> 0:07:07.170 and we just got caught a bad break, like when 0:07:07.270 --> 0:07:09.800 Aaron Rodgers went down a couple years ago. And you're 0:07:09.810 --> 0:07:11.940 not playing for the draft, and you don't say this publicly, 0:07:12.220 --> 0:07:15.200 but if somehow Jackson Dart gets healthy, you get a 0:07:15.220 --> 0:07:18.040 top-five draft pick. Next thing you know, Jeremiah Love is 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.440 available from Ohio State. It could be one of those 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.600 unintentional great injuries. I don't say great, I mean... Good 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.120 for the franchise. 0:07:26.140 --> 0:07:28.740 I just can't picture the Giants with Malik Nabors and 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:29.640 Jeremiah Smith. 0:07:30.540 --> 0:07:31.580 Some Giants fans can. 0:07:31.820 --> 0:07:34.520 Yeah, I mean, actually I'm getting into it later in 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.060 warm takes, but I think there's a scenario where they 0:07:37.100 --> 0:07:38.020 also look quarterback. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.320 I don't want to give it away. I don't want 0:07:40.340 --> 0:07:40.740 to give it away. 0:07:40.780 --> 0:07:41.800 What's our next situation? 0:07:41.900 --> 0:07:42.120 Okay. 0:07:42.900 --> 0:07:46.370 Next situation is Washington, which is, again, we're getting on 0:07:46.410 --> 0:07:49.410 the hopeless end of the scale. People have seen it 0:07:49.450 --> 0:07:52.810 by now, but Jaden Daniels went down against Dallas at 0:07:52.850 --> 0:07:55.840 the end of the first half. Gruesome arm injury. It's 0:07:55.860 --> 0:07:59.500 an elbow dislocation that he suffered before. It does not 0:07:59.540 --> 0:08:02.060 look good. We're not exactly sure how long he's going 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.190 to be out. It might not be season-ending, but it 0:08:05.230 --> 0:08:08.350 does not seem like there's any reason for optimism in Washington. 0:08:08.390 --> 0:08:09.430 Okay, so there's an injury. 0:08:09.470 --> 0:08:10.770 We've all seen it. We know he's going to be 0:08:10.790 --> 0:08:13.830 out for a while. A very awkward injury, basically a non-contact. 0:08:14.370 --> 0:08:16.290 The bigger picture is, and we've been talking about this, 0:08:16.350 --> 0:08:19.060 this has been playing out on social media. Watch his 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.860 fellow offensive players and offensive linemen after he gets hurt 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.700 and their level of concern or lack of concern. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.000 Okay. What do you see? Well, people are glancing at him. 0:08:30.100 --> 0:08:32.780 They see the trainer run out, and nobody's even stopping 0:08:32.820 --> 0:08:34.780 to pause to look for three seconds. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.980 They have to get off the field because it's halftime. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.800 I get that. But you can at least make sure 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:39.760 your guy is okay. 0:08:40.059 --> 0:08:42.400 I'm going to back the players for Washington, the commanders, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.560 just a little bit because halftime, I think, in the 0:08:44.580 --> 0:08:47.710 NFL is 12 minutes. You're told to get off the field, bathroom, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.750 water up, meet your position coach, and get back on. 0:08:50.929 --> 0:08:52.470 I think I'm going to use that because it happened 0:08:52.490 --> 0:08:53.890 at the end of the half that you have to 0:08:53.910 --> 0:08:56.559 get off the field. They didn't even break stride, some 0:08:56.580 --> 0:08:58.120 of those guys. I don't know if we can run 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.260 that back, but they didn't even break stride. They did 0:09:00.300 --> 0:09:01.060 a glance at him. 0:09:01.140 --> 0:09:03.620 Let's look at it again. So the thing about that, 0:09:03.660 --> 0:09:06.069 they have to get off the field. They're going so slowly, Paul. 0:09:06.090 --> 0:09:07.550 They're in no rush to get anywhere. 0:09:07.550 --> 0:09:11.450 72, he's barely going to get off in time before 0:09:11.490 --> 0:09:12.150 halftime's over. 0:09:12.170 --> 0:09:14.470 You've got to give Marcus Mariota credit. He both goes out, 0:09:14.670 --> 0:09:17.200 checks on him, takes a knee. and supports him, but 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:18.220 he wasn't on the field. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.699 So Mariota is not worried about halftime. No, I think 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.880 there's something really unusual happening here. Either they didn't understand 0:09:23.900 --> 0:09:26.880 what was happening, or do you think it's possible they 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.420 have a Jaden Daniels issue? Remember, this is Washington, a 0:09:29.460 --> 0:09:31.600 team that did not like RG3 when he was there. 0:09:31.620 --> 0:09:33.069 You know, a lot of people have suggested that on 0:09:33.110 --> 0:09:36.130 the internet. When I say internet, no one of reputable 0:09:36.170 --> 0:09:38.130 said it. But when you watch that video, it's hard 0:09:38.150 --> 0:09:39.940 to explain away. The only thing I could think is, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.880 Professional athletes don't let likability come into things on Sunday, 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.100 I don't think. I think they would back their guy, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.720 checking him. I think this is mostly about halftime and 0:09:48.780 --> 0:09:50.000 getting off expeditiously. 0:09:50.059 --> 0:09:52.800 Right. Who doesn't like Jaden Daniels? LSU fans? 0:09:52.830 --> 0:09:56.790 LSU fans lately, a little bit, but I don't know 0:09:56.870 --> 0:09:57.570 if they were in the building. 0:09:57.690 --> 0:09:59.770 I'm not sure some of his dates appreciate when Jane 0:09:59.790 --> 0:10:01.189 Daniels brings his mother on the date. 0:10:01.250 --> 0:10:03.599 That's another side topic here. But if you look at 0:10:03.620 --> 0:10:04.060 the guys. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.260 It's the weirdest video of the year so far. 0:10:06.260 --> 0:10:09.100 71 has five minutes. Oh, it looks bad? Whatever. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.490 It's actually worse for number 71 because he's aware of it, 0:10:11.740 --> 0:10:13.880 sees the severity, and continues to walk up. 0:10:14.020 --> 0:10:14.770 Yeah. 0:10:14.990 --> 0:10:18.050 Nobody's thinking this guy's okay. Trainers are sprinting out 100 0:10:18.050 --> 0:10:18.650 miles an hour. 0:10:18.670 --> 0:10:22.530 I think Washington probably should address this. Maybe we're making 0:10:22.590 --> 0:10:23.360 too big a deal of it. 0:10:23.390 --> 0:10:24.190 It's getting a lot of play. 0:10:24.429 --> 0:10:26.920 Here I am making fun of Caleb Williams and making 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.200 fun of NFL players who are Warriors, and there is 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:29.760 a brotherhood. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:30.179 I get it. 0:10:30.179 --> 0:10:31.939 All right, one thing before we break. Does it feel 0:10:31.980 --> 0:10:35.670 like there's an extra rash of injuries this year? Is 0:10:35.690 --> 0:10:39.530 this big-name players, quarterbacks especially, getting injured in national TV 0:10:39.550 --> 0:10:41.130 games make us think there's more injuries? 0:10:41.490 --> 0:10:42.609 I think the rate is high. 0:10:42.630 --> 0:10:44.650 I mean, you could dispel this, but it feels like 0:10:44.710 --> 0:10:46.670 we've seen a couple guys go down really early. 0:10:46.690 --> 0:10:48.960 We're only two weeks into the season, Paul. I know 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.000 they're backups by week eight, but week three? 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.860 Darnold, Dart, Daniels, Caleb, Kyler Murray, Penix. There's a lot 0:10:55.900 --> 0:10:59.120 of names there. Darnold's a defending champ. Dart was national TV. 0:10:59.540 --> 0:11:01.980 Jane Daniels, franchise guy. Caleb Williams, franchise guy. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.000 I think this makes. 0:11:03.820 --> 0:11:06.660 People think the NFL has some injury problem as opposed 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:07.960 to an anomaly of big names. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.760 Well, I mean, come on. Any starting quarterback in the 0:11:10.820 --> 0:11:12.980 NFL is a big name. Those aren't even particularly big names. 0:11:13.020 --> 0:11:15.760 Kyler Murray's on the veteran minimum. Sam Darnold's not a 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:16.339 huge star. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.200 If Jacoby Brissett got injured, it wouldn't even have made 0:11:18.220 --> 0:11:18.559 our graphic. 0:11:18.620 --> 0:11:21.760 There's probably four quarterbacks who nobody cares about. The other 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.980 28 are a big deal, Paul. So I do think 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.090 this is something to watch. There are not that many 0:11:26.110 --> 0:11:29.450 backup quarterbacks, apparently. I'm really curious. Are the Giants... I 0:11:29.590 --> 0:11:32.470 like that J.J. McCarthy idea or something. Or maybe trade for. 0:11:33.530 --> 0:11:35.050 I have no idea who an extra guy is, but 0:11:35.070 --> 0:11:36.130 they can't go Jameis. 0:11:36.150 --> 0:11:38.350 The only person I would think about trading for is 0:11:38.490 --> 0:11:40.210 Mac Jones, the backup of the 49ers. 0:11:40.250 --> 0:11:42.189 But I wouldn't do it if I was the Giants. 0:11:42.580 --> 0:11:45.620 If I was a contender or contender-ish team, Mac Jones' 0:11:45.700 --> 0:11:48.840 final year of his deal, his two-year deal with the 49ers, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.719 he could be expendable because Brock Purdy looks like he's perfect. 0:11:51.900 --> 0:11:54.020 My Eagles have an extra guy because Andy Dalton and 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.460 Tanner McKee were fighting for the job. And they were 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.170 holding onto McKee to trade him. They never got around 0:11:59.190 --> 0:11:59.429 to that. 0:12:00.150 --> 0:12:01.699 Well... Maybe now there's a chance. 0:12:02.100 --> 0:12:05.079 Okay, coming up on Not So Fast, I have a 0:12:05.179 --> 0:12:08.540 draft idea about Arch Manning that's going to cause a 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.580 lot of controversy around the NFL. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.160 That's next, Not So Fast. 0:12:14.980 --> 0:12:17.260 We love us some baseball in the midday pick-me-up pass 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.760 from Pearl off Not So Fast. Oh, great day down 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.390 in Tampa. Your raise, Pearl. 0:12:22.750 --> 0:12:23.270 My raise? 0:12:23.309 --> 0:12:27.189 In front of a big crowd at Yankee Stadium. Sparse. Clinch. 0:12:27.710 --> 0:12:29.790 The AL East. Number one seed in the AL. 0:12:30.260 --> 0:12:32.620 Great record, best record in the AL, and they only 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.920 spend in the top 20 year race. 0:12:35.050 --> 0:12:36.870 Yeah, but we've seen the Rays do this before and 0:12:36.929 --> 0:12:39.510 not go all the way. They're not my Rays, by 0:12:39.530 --> 0:12:41.630 the way. I'm all about the Phillies right now, but 0:12:41.670 --> 0:12:44.350 I do respect that they find a way to win 0:12:44.450 --> 0:12:45.090 in this day and age. 0:12:45.110 --> 0:12:45.630 It's incredible. 0:12:45.670 --> 0:12:47.010 I was going to offer to buy you a car 0:12:47.030 --> 0:12:48.740 if you could name me four Tampa Bay Rays, but 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:49.380 we won't do that. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.260 We've got a lot to get to. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.450 It's time for warm takes here on Not So Fast 0:12:52.470 --> 0:12:53.209 with Pabst and Perloff. 0:12:53.330 --> 0:12:53.950 I'll go first. 0:12:54.050 --> 0:12:54.650 I got a warm one. 0:12:55.070 --> 0:12:58.490 This is an emergency audible warm take I'm calling based 0:12:58.530 --> 0:13:00.770 off something you said in segment one of this show. 0:13:01.210 --> 0:13:04.290 You said the Giants season is over. Nothing is over. 0:13:04.750 --> 0:13:07.439 John Belushi said it. Nothing is over. Never say the 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.620 season is over when your quarterback gets hurt. It feels 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.420 very dour right now. Great word, by the way, if 0:13:12.460 --> 0:13:14.679 you're a Giants fan, but it's not over. Jameis Winston 0:13:14.700 --> 0:13:15.160 looked awful. 0:13:15.300 --> 0:13:15.819 It's not over. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.380 Let's go back a little bit. Carson Wentz goes down. 0:13:18.450 --> 0:13:20.699 He was a star for the Eagles. Nick Foles, leads 0:13:20.740 --> 0:13:22.880 into the Super Bowl. You can go back to Trent Green, 0:13:23.020 --> 0:13:27.140 goes down for the St. Louis Rams. Decades ago, decades ago, 0:13:27.220 --> 0:13:30.780 Trent Green goes down. Kurt Warner comes in, okay? I'm 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.120 going to go back even further. Jeff Hostetler goes down 0:13:34.179 --> 0:13:36.880 for the Giants. Who doesn't remember that? Look at this 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:37.679 guy in the Super Bowl. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:38.700 There he is, Kurt Warner. 0:13:39.260 --> 0:13:41.319 Jeff Hostetler for the New York Giants way back in 0:13:41.340 --> 0:13:43.079 the day, fills in for Phil Simms. 0:13:43.580 --> 0:13:44.720 There he is winning a Super Bowl. 0:13:45.210 --> 0:13:47.489 Tom Brady was a nobody when Drew Bledsoe went down, 0:13:47.530 --> 0:13:50.530 and today is the 21st anniversary of Drew Bledsoe getting 0:13:50.570 --> 0:13:52.970 hurt and Tom Brady coming in for him against the Jets. 0:13:53.510 --> 0:13:54.030 Nothing is over. 0:13:54.250 --> 0:13:56.590 Now, Jameis, when I saw Jameis play the other day, 0:13:56.670 --> 0:13:58.120 I almost did what you did and said, this season 0:13:58.170 --> 0:13:58.460 is over. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.860 Hopefully he can get back. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.699 I don't know if he can, but there's a lot 0:14:01.740 --> 0:14:04.160 of doubt right now. So if you have a good backup, 0:14:04.300 --> 0:14:06.520 it's great. The better thing to have is a really 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.380 good team around that backup. Look at Seattle right now. Seattle, 0:14:10.620 --> 0:14:12.780 no one's even panicked at all. Sam Darnold is hurt. 0:14:12.900 --> 0:14:15.579 The defending Super Bowl champion quarterback is hurt. And Drew 0:14:15.620 --> 0:14:18.230 Locke is just carrying things along. So if you're going 0:14:18.250 --> 0:14:20.550 to say it's over, never say it's over, bro. 0:14:20.590 --> 0:14:21.910 Okay, then let's do some kind of bet. 0:14:22.290 --> 0:14:23.050 Keep it friendly? 0:14:23.470 --> 0:14:26.290 Yeah. And you can name any kind of odds you want. 0:14:26.750 --> 0:14:30.310 I am sticking by. I know you're absolutely right. Obviously, 0:14:30.350 --> 0:14:31.850 on the Tom Brady day. 0:14:31.950 --> 0:14:32.970 Are you taking me back? 0:14:33.210 --> 0:14:33.470 Yeah. 0:14:33.980 --> 0:14:36.360 I'm saying, you know, put your money where your mouth 0:14:36.460 --> 0:14:38.260 is because you're saying the Giants have a chance. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:39.260 That is what I'm hearing. 0:14:39.740 --> 0:14:43.020 I'm saying they have a chance as opposed to no chance. 0:14:43.180 --> 0:14:46.870 All right, let's make a bet. Jameis Winston wins five 0:14:46.930 --> 0:14:50.090 games as a starter this year over under four and 0:14:50.110 --> 0:14:50.350 a half. 0:14:51.860 --> 0:14:53.720 I'll go under for sure. Keep it friendly. 0:14:53.740 --> 0:14:54.200 That's a bet. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:54.880 That's on the area. 0:14:55.020 --> 0:14:57.620 One win. I do not see it happening. Now, you 0:14:57.660 --> 0:14:59.320 say Jameis Winston. Are you sure they're going to stick 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.720 with Jameis? I have no idea. So if they get 0:15:01.780 --> 0:15:03.900 Russell Wilson out of the booth, then I win the bet. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.820 All right. Well, you made a good argument, although I 0:15:05.900 --> 0:15:08.600