1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: This Day in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to This Day in History Class, a 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: show that charts a course through history one day at 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: a time. I'm Gabe Bluesier, and today we're exploring a 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: spooky mystery from the late sixteenth century, the time when 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: a palace guard went to sleep in one Spanish colony 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: only to wake up in another on the opposite side 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: of the Pacific Ocean. The day was October twenty fourth, 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: fifteen ninety three. A Spanish soldier fell asleep in the 10 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: Philippines and supposedly woke up in Mexico just a few 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: seconds later. The roughly nine thousand mile journey would have 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: taken about two months by boat, but according to Hill Perez, 13 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: he somehow made the trip in just the blink of 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: an eye. Perez had been stationed in the Plaza de 15 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: Armas in Manila during the early years of Spanish rule 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: in the Philippines. He served there as a palace guard 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: for Perez Das Mariinez, the Governor general appointed by Spain. However, 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: one day in October fifteen ninety three, the governor left 19 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: on an expedition to the nearby Maluku islands and was 20 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: assassinated by Chinese mutineers. The death of Das Marines created 21 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: a power vacuum in the Spanish controlled Philippines, as there 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: was no clear order of succession. As a result, several 23 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: prominent Spaniards began jockeying for position, creating tensions among soldiers 24 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: who weren't sure whose orders to follow. By the evening 25 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: of October twenty fourth, the strain of that uncertainty had 26 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: begun to take its toll on Hill Perez, while on 27 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: guard duty at the palace, The stressed out soldier started 28 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: feeling dear, so much so that he had to lean 29 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: against the wall and close his eyes to stop the spinning. 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: He dozed off only for a few moments, but when 31 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: he opened his eyes, he found himself somewhere completely new. 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: The palace was nowhere in sight, and when he asked 33 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: a bystander where he was, he was told he was 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: in Plaza Mayor, now known as Elzocallo in Mexico City. Somehow, 35 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: he'd been mysteriously transported from his post in Manila all 36 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: the way to the Colony of New Spain, as Mexico 37 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: was known at the time. Perez was understandably baffled, and 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: he wasn't the only one. When some passing guards spotted 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: a frantic man wearing a Manila uniform, they promptly arrested 40 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: him for questioning. Perez explained the situation as best he could, 41 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: telling them his name, rank, regiment, and how he had 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: seemingly been spirited away to Mexico. The local authorities didn't 43 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: believe that last part, but since he did appear to 44 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: be as Spanish soldier who had abandoned his post, they 45 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: threw him in jail for desertion. Once behind bars, Perez 46 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: continued to protest his innocence. He told the guards all 47 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: about the recent events in the Philippines, including how the 48 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: governor general had just been assassinated. His captors assumed he 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: was lying, but just in case, they decided to bring 50 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: him to the Viceroy of New Spain for further questioning. 51 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: The viceroy was able to confirm that Perez was indeed 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: wearing the uniform of the officers and the Philippines, but 53 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: as for the claim that the governor there had been assassinated, 54 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: he had no clue one way or the other. News 55 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: traveled quite slowly in those days, and The next Spanish 56 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: ship from the Philippines wasn't due to arrive for several months, 57 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: if not longer, and only then would they be able 58 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: to confirm or disprove Perez's story. In the meantime, the 59 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: Viceroy turned the soldier over to the Office of the 60 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: Holy Inquisition better known today as the Spanish Inquisition. Our 61 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: approach to interrogation wasn't as gentle as that of the Viceroy, 62 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: but Perez held to his account anyway unbelievable. Though it 63 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: was unable to fully explain how he had traveled such 64 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: a long distance in such a short time, the inquisitors 65 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: declared him a servant of the devil and sent him 66 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: to be imprisoned in Santo Domingo, on the Caribbean island 67 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: of Hispaniola. It was reported that Perez remained in high 68 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: spirits during his incarceration, and that he actually preferred being 69 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: in prison rather than fighting a war in the jungles 70 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: of the Philippines. Accounts vary on exactly how long Perez 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: spent in jail, with some sources claiming two months and 72 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: others saying well over a year. In any case, a 73 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: Spanish galleon eventually arrived in Mexico from Manila, and when 74 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: the soldiers on board reported that the Governor General had 75 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: been killed, the officials immediately sent for hill Perez. Not 76 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: only did the visiting soldiers confirm every detail of his account, 77 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: some some of them even recognized him as their former comrade. 78 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: There was still no explanation for how Perez had wound 79 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: up in the Mexican capital, but since he was indeed 80 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: who he claimed to be, he was released from prison 81 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: and allowed to sail back on the next ship to Manila. 82 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: There aren't any details about Perez's return voyage or about 83 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: what happened to him afterward, but I imagine he drove 84 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: everyone nuts the whole way home, complaining about how much 85 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: faster it is to teleport. The big question, of course, 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: is whether any of this actually happened. We know for 87 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: certain that Governor General Dosmarinez was assassinated and that his 88 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: death led to a good deal of confusion over the 89 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: chain of command and the Spanish Philippines, but beyond that, 90 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: there aren't many details to go on. The legend of 91 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: the teleporting Spanish soldier didn't appear in print until sixteen 92 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: ninety eight, a little over a century after the events 93 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: supposedly happened, it was published by Spanish clergyman and historian 94 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: Gaspar de Saint agos Estine in his book Conquests of 95 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: the Philippine Islands. The account was said to be compiled 96 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: from interviews with witnesses who had met Perez first hand, 97 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: though the soldier wouldn't be identified by name for another 98 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: two hundred years. By that point, the story had been 99 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: recounted in numerous books and stories, including works by Spanish 100 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: colonial official Antonio de Morga, Mexican historian Luise Gonzales Obergone, 101 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: and Filipino author Jose Rizal. The tall tale had even 102 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: reached US shores, having been chronicled both by American folklorist 103 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: Thomas Jean Vier and by short story writer Washington Irving. 104 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: Of course, no matter how well traveled and oft repeated 105 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: the story was, that still doesn't make it true. And 106 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: even if Hille Perez was a real person, that doesn't 107 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: prove that he was actually whisked away to Mexico. And 108 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 2: while there have been efforts to explain what might have happened, 109 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: none of them feel all that plausible. The most popular 110 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: theory is that Perez experienced spontaneous teleportation, a hypothetical phenomena 111 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: in which energy or matter is transferred from one point 112 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: to another without traversing the physical distance between them. That 113 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: kind of fast travel only exists in science fiction at 114 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: this point, with the transfer of digital data being perhaps 115 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: the closest real world equivalent. Another equally far fetched theory 116 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: is that of alien abduction. Many of those who claim 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: to have encountered extraterrestrials report periods of lost time in 118 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: which they have no memory of what happened to them. 119 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: Some paranormal investigators think that's what Hill Perez experienced after 120 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: being abducted in Manila. He was later dropped off in 121 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Mexico City, believing that only a few seconds had passed 122 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: in between. Neither of those theories inspire much confidence, but 123 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: the concept of lost time does hint at a somewhat 124 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: more plausible explanation. We now know that people can sometimes 125 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: enter fugue states in which they experienced temporary amnesia and 126 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: then wake up in unexpected places with no idea of 127 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: how they got there or how much time has passed. 128 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: Fugues are generally symptoms of dissociative disorders and can be 129 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: brought on by severe stress. Traumatic experiences or both. Fighting 130 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: a war in an occupied country during a regime change 131 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: would certainly seem to fit that bill, So it's not 132 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: out of the question that hill Perez slipped into a 133 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: fugue state, and if he did, it's possible. He was 134 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: then ordered to travel to Mexico City to report the 135 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: news of the Governor General's assassination. Then, after a month's 136 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: long voyage aboard a ship, the soldier came to in 137 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: Mexico City, not remembering how he got there and thinking 138 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: it was still the same night. Whatever the truth, the 139 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: enduring mystery of Hill Perez remains a topic of curiosity 140 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: in Mexico, Manila and beyond. I'm Gabe Lucia and hopefully 141 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: you now know a little more about history today than 142 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: you did yesterday. 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