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Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of

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Speaker 1: the backfields, flowing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Windstuff where flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. It

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Speaker 1: is victory Monday. How about that. As you can tell,

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Speaker 1: I am not Shannon Gross obviously doesn't have his priorities straight.

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Speaker 1: He's not here. He's in some muckety muck big wig meeting. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I am joined, of course by the great Nate

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Speaker 1: Newton as always, what's up? Always here, steady, ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: And we have a newcomer on our show here today.

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Speaker 1: You're very excited about this. Kyle Yeoman is joining us.

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Speaker 1: How's it going, everybody? Very good? Oh wait, I gotta

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Speaker 1: give us the weather. We'll be in troupe. We don't

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Speaker 1: do the weather. Sixty one degree sunny outside, very nice,

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Speaker 1: sixty seven high. There's the there's the screen looking a

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Speaker 1: little championship. That's what he said. So we got that

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Speaker 1: out of the way. How you guys out there, really good?

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Speaker 1: You guys good, have a good weekend. Even better when

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys get a win like that. God, no doubt

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Speaker 1: it got one. Though. Yeah, you guys had a good

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Speaker 1: show yesterday PrePost we did. We did. Nate Newton was

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Speaker 1: the superstars always. Always. I feel like every time that

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Speaker 1: we get done with the postgame show, I just get

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Speaker 1: text messages about how cool is it to be able

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Speaker 1: to work with Nate Newton. It's like, man, it's not

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Speaker 1: as good as you think. Usually my answer because because

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Speaker 1: you know what I lean I lean on him a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, even though our gut Kaden could just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're doing this, we're doing this, we're doing this. We

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Speaker 1: can go all over the whole show, and I'll be

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Speaker 1: sitting there, okay, marking out my hey Kyle going here, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what you gonna say to open this up? You know? Hey,

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Speaker 1: how but we have the time, I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: it out, as we all believe that, because like Nate

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Speaker 1: it and I'm just kind of here taking up space.

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Speaker 1: But you, sir, are a broadcast professional. Yes, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, Isn't it funny? Because it was. This was

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Speaker 1: actually the first show I made an appearance on. I

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Speaker 1: filled in I think I filled in for you did. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well one time I filled in for Kurt and that

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Speaker 1: was back in like twenty nineteen. It was the first

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Speaker 1: show I ever appeared on here because I was still

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Speaker 1: a production assistant at the time. So it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Good you guys gave me my start, how

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Speaker 1: about that? Yes, that's right. When you're when you're broadcasting

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Speaker 1: the boys crew, all right? One question? Yeah, okay, you

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Speaker 1: you put that to me? Okay, your thoughts on yesterday

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Speaker 1: game that you know, I love that defense. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was great to go up there. Back up McCarthy's words,

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Speaker 1: bring home the win. They look like they could be

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Speaker 1: a tough team to beat on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. The concerns that Shannon raised all the week about,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be happy. You go first, Nate, No, don't

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Speaker 1: look at me. This is your show. You know. The

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Speaker 1: thing about it is we won, right, and I'm always

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Speaker 1: the positive things, you know, a lot of people say

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Speaker 1: we didn't run the ball enough. I think thirty five

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Speaker 1: we have a defense that's been playing lights out. Rookie

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Speaker 1: gotta question his confidence. Now you do have to question it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So already there's a huge jump in his ability to

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Speaker 1: now and it's almost like the Jalen Smith thing. But

426
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: I haven't thought Layton Vanderesh was playing pretty well from

427
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: what I saw. That was what, you know, men bringing

428
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: up how much the front line helped everybody else. I

429
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: mean Vanderesh he flashed, for sure, he didn't play as

430
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: many snaps, but just him and Neil I thought, you know, overall,

431
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: they definitely were helped by what was in front of him,

432
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: no doubt. I think that's what's exciting for me too

433
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: of getting Gallimore back and having trust and Hill back

434
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: and healthy and having a healthy rotation on the interior.

435
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: Because even as good as Michael Parsons has played on

436
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: the edge, and you have Randy Gregory prior to his injury,

437
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: they were playing well coming off the edge together, you've

438
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: never really had that full group up front on the interior,

439
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: and defensive tackles help out the linebackers more than you think.

440
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: And the fact that now Layton Vanderesh and Michael Parsons

441
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: on that second level can play free and kind of

442
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: scrape off of each other and make sure that they

443
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: plugged those holes, and there's not a lot of them

444
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: to be plugged. I think you're going to see better

445
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: play from fifty five if everybody stays healthy. So a

446
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: lot of this phenomenal talk and overpowering people and all this,

447
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: it kind of brings us back to Michael Parsons and

448
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: what he's been doing and so, and I specifically want

449
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: to ask you, Nate. I mean, now we're getting these

450
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: continuous comparisons with Lawrence Taylor and all that you played

451
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: against Taylor. I mean, what are you saying? Is this

452
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: really a legit defensive player of the Year Canada, not

453
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: just rookie's pretty much wrapped up, but defensive player of

454
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: the year. Oh yeah, man, yeah, this this this, this

455
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: kid playing on another level. And now but you being

456
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: able not to know where he's lining up. Now you

457
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: can't dictate to where he's lining up because the lack

458
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: of other players. Now now he can go to another level.

459
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: He can go to another level. Man, is if his

460
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: covery skills just get by that much better. Now you're

461
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: talking about a few peaks before the end of the year.

462
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, if you just get that close, yeah,

463
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, just live And so you know

464
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: at first, you know, I look at guys because only

465
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: time to tell us who this kid really is. And

466
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: and Kyle tell you, man, every show, you're gonna hear

467
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: me say every show, please please stay hungry, please please

468
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: seems to have I've seen it one year, wonders. Man,

469
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: I do not. And that's what my thing for Diggs.

470
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: Keep learning, Diggs, You're not. Just keep learning, brother, keep

471
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: because better things are down the road. Because not only

472
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to be that guy. And I know

473
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive players who've been that guy on

474
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: bad teams, and that's all you'll wind up being, is

475
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: that guy remember such as such? Yeah, but what did

476
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: he win? I want these guys to have success. I

477
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: need playoff runs. Yeah. Yeah, So we came into this

478
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: season thinking the offense was going to carry him to

479
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the promised landing. Now can the defense do it? Yeah?

480
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: You know the thing? I think so? I think they are.

481
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: They are doing it right now. Now. I've said this

482
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: before a couple of times already today, Taysom Hill, you know,

483
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Taylor Hannike. They're not going to be in the playoffs.

484
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: That's part of it, is the competition. Yeah, but I missay.

485
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: One more thing about about Mikey that I think we

486
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: kind of forget sometimes is that, well, he's playing everywhere.

487
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, he plays here, he plays here, and that's

488
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: what makes them so dangerous. But just remember, the mental

489
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: part of the game is so tough for rookies. He's

490
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: got the capability to know all these positions. He's had

491
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: to learn. Sometimes it's easier to just learn your position,

492
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: and that's it he has learned. And this one, this one,

493
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: this one, I mean, that's what's phenomenal to me is

494
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: the fact that he can do it. Everything that they

495
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: put on his plate, he's eating it and he's ready

496
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: for enough. So it's the mental part that's to me,

497
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: it's just as impressive as the physical part because he's

498
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: able to Because that first game, I mean, if they

499
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: play the Bucks again, Tom Brady's gonna go Okay, that's

500
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: not the guy I faced because that guy's head was

501
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: on swivel and he wasn't there. Ever since that game,

502
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: he's gotten better and better. He'll be a different guy

503
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: if they faced them again. Yeah, that Week two game

504
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: against the Chargers was the first time you really saw

505
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: it clicked. He might have still been chewing on it

506
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: a little bit week one, but he digested it a

507
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: week two and he goes all the way back to

508
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Oxnard and the training can't practice is where you see

509
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 1: dan Quinn and working one on one with Michael Parsons

510
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: on the pass rush ability. At the time, it's like,

511
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: why are we talking about pass rush? He's gonna be

512
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Oh look what? Because dan Quinn has now

513
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: put him in a position to be successful. So he

514
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: deserves just as much credit, maybe not just as much,

515
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: but a lot of the credit of allowing Michael Parsons

516
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: to be what Michael Parsons has turned into. Somebody's got

517
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: fired and other teams, I don't know who's picking one

518
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: through ten. Seriously, somebody has been either fired or demoted

519
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: in those rooms because I guarantee when it came out

520
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: when they were started talking about let's talk about Parsons.

521
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, bad guy, bad character all that. Does he

522
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: rush to the passer? No, not really, he's a linebacker.

523
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: We don't pick him at number seven or remember eight

524
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: because he's a linebacker, because he doesn't do all that.

525
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: But what about rushing in the passer? You know some

526
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: GM's probably asking and I haven't seen him do it,

527
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: so okay, well moving on because and then you know

528
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: you to send Christmas cards to Denver and Carolina. Yeah,

529
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for taking us. How about the fact

530
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: that the Cowboy traded back when they could have picked

531
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: him at ten, and they were like, no, let our

532
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: divisional rivals get two shots at picking in front of us,

533
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: and neither one of them decided, and they got who

534
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: out of that? I forgot it. They got DeVante Smith,

535
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: right Heisman receiver, and then the Giants traded back with

536
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Chicago and Justin Fields took. Who was that pick that

537
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got? Was it so Golston and Parsons versus something?

538
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean it could be anybody in Parsons. If anybody

539
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 1: in Parsons in this, you know what's amazing, is uh

540
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: about this? This whole situation is we we as much

541
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: as were trying to get everybody else crap, we was

542
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: kind of forced in on this kid. Yeah, it's true.

543
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: We was kind of forced in on this kid. Only

544
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: one guy I knew that was on him. I mean,

545
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, and you know Mick was on him. Mickey Spagnolan.

546
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna own that. Yes, I'll take some Yeah, I

547
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: was not. No, I'll take some of that too now now, Mickey,

548
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: for sure. But I was. Yeah, I was. I was

549
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: definitely And I've seen enough highlight films to be like,

550
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: I know that they're not going to face Perdue in

551
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Michigan State every game, but nobody can block him.

552
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: I remember saying that, like he can't get I'm glad

553
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: you were, because it's two people. Mix sold me on

554
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: the one. One one very hard was Zeke one very

555
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: hard to set me on ze Yeah, but he sold

556
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: me on this kid and I stopped watching highlights. So

557
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: so what were your doubts? Yeah, so I had him

558
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: as the number one linebacker. I liked him a lot

559
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: as a linebacker. But that was my thing is I

560
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: was much like the gms you're making fun of now.

561
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think he would be as versatile as he is. Yeah,

562
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: because linebacker positional value in the draft should not be

563
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: a top fifteen pick because of linebackers and what they're

564
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: limited to. That's the thing about Parsons that I didn't

565
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: know at the time is he's not just a linebacker.

566
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Don't shuff up about it. No one else did either,

567
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: trust me. Yeah, you're exactly right. There were eleven teams

568
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: in front. They did the same thing. Okay, if you

569
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: if you redraft now, because we'd like to do that,

570
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: I would. I would say he's the number two pick overall.

571
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: Jacksonville still goes, still goes with Trevor Lawrence's Trevor Lawrence

572
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: and he's a conditional guy. Two was Zach Wilson to

573
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: the Jets? Jets are taking him? Oh yeah, the Jets.

574
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: He would be in New York right now, Jacksonville may

575
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: there's a thought, there's a thought there that maybe he

576
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: is the way he's playing right now, because you think

577
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: about it, you're gonna come back around and number thirty

578
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: two and you're thirty three and you're gonna you can

579
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: maybe get a quarterback right and thirty three. I don't

580
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: know who was there, but I mean all the top

581
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: guys were gone at that point, but you still feel

582
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: pretty good about Micah Parson's being your guy. Yeah, that's amazing.

583
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: If you read, you know, I don't, I don't. I

584
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: don't believe in a redraft because because it doesn't, because

585
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: no one else it doesn't exist. But no, no, because

586
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: you may. It's like the Eastern it's still calm down

587
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: to falling in. See you heard me saying earlier, it's

588
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: still come down to fall into the right coach. Yeah,

589
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: Quinn Quinn had the vision. He told it, don't worry,

590
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: mister Jones and man I talked to what did you

591
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: see He's don't worry. This is our guy. This is

592
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with him. This, this, this, this, this.

593
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: Nobody had the vision. You got to have a vision

594
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: for a kid. And that was my biggest thing with

595
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: the last coaching staff that walked out of here. You

596
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: told us what your plan was, but you never put

597
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: the he you never put these people in the place. Yeah. You.

598
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: He told me, said, this is what I'm gonna do

599
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: with the big kid from Kentucky. He told me that, Nate,

600
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing the big kid from Kentucky.

601
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna play first and second down. I got to

602
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: get him ready and he may not be what we

603
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: needed to be at the beginning of the year, but

604
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: as the time going, he's my first and second down guy.

605
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: And I don't want him thinking pass rush. I want

606
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: him thinking pressure the center of pressure. Hannah. Yeah, he yeah,

607
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: he did. He thinks he might have lost too much weight.

608
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Thinks so because he was drafted at three to sixty

609
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: and now he's not. He's just spelt three twenty eight.

610
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: Looks good and all that. But now I mean, I

611
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: mean now, but he may get some man strength. A

612
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, the man shrink of falling on you.

613
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: And uh with every guy he had, he had our

614
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: safeties And I know everybody love our safeties, but our

615
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: safeties are not reading react safeties. They have to be

616
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: safeties going to a point and going to a destination.

617
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: They have to know what's happening right away, because if

618
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: you ask them to just sit back, read and react

619
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: and it ain't happen. Yeah, but see coach Quinn smart enough,

620
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: a coach with a coach Harris, they smart to say,

621
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: this is the type of guys we have to have.

622
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, the NBA has a has a lot of awards,

623
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: and they pretty much the same ones at the NFL,

624
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: except for they have a most Improved Player award, a

625
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: guy that kind of comes out of nowhere or whatever.

626
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: If the NFL had that, I think jay Ron Kurk

627
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: gotta be right would be right there. I mean, and

628
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: this goes to what you just said about the vision,

629
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: because he talked about I remember j Ron saying after

630
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers game, he said, Dan Quinn told me I

631
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: got a spot for you. I have a place to

632
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: play you that other coaches maybe haven't haven't played you before.

633
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: He goes, I've I've gone up against you. You're tough

634
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: to deal with. I got a spot for you. And

635
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: you just go back to the whole free agent process,

636
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Speaker 1: So we've been talking a lot of defense, but there

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Speaker 1: I mean, how are we feeling? Boys? Are we? We

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Speaker 1: can figure this out? M M? I don't know. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound I mean, it's just it's not good. No, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. There out of sync right now

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00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: and they can't they can't figure it out. Is Dak's problem?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yes? The people around him, you know, maybe

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00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: not a strong line, a bad running game. Um is

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Speaker 1: the is it a confidence thing that you mentioned earlier?

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Speaker 1: Mental is it? Um? Is? He? Is there an injury issue?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what's going on? White looking at me?

712
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: He covering all the bases. But well, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: no to the injury. I mean, if they're if they're

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Speaker 1: gonna put him on any if they're not gonna put

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Speaker 1: him on the injury port, then we're not gonna say

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Speaker 1: he's not. He's got to be fine. He's fine there. Mentally,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's not I don't know

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00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: if he's lost his confidence or whatever. But I just

719
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: think he's always been a guy that needs help, and

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00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I think he's pressing. He has no running game right now.

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00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: He knows he doesn't have it. At the end of

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00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the game. We talked about this on the break. We

723
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: he didn't need to throw that ball. They didn't need

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00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: to call a pass. So if they call the pass,

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00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: that's on them. If he checked into a pass, that's

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00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: on him. Either way. You should be working the clock

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00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: game right there. You're not a relief pitcher. You don't

728
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: need to go side armed and throw it like that.

729
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: You're not Mahomes, you're not far You're you're not a pitcher.

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Speaker 1: So throw the ball right or don't throw it at all,

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00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: and then you know there was another touchdown. It just

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Speaker 1: went the other way. And if he makes a tackle,

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Speaker 1: I know that he's not getting paid that much to tackle.

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Speaker 1: But if he could tackle a guy, that's that's a

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Speaker 1: minute and a half off the clock. A minute and

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Speaker 1: a half. Because they're not gonna score right away, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna take their time. They're gonna have to get it

738
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Speaker 1: in there, and he didn't. He kind of whipped on that. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, not getting paid much to tackle. Hope, he's

740
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Speaker 1: not getting paid at all to tackle, but to have

741
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: it though, you gotta tackle him. Not there. They didn't

742
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: score away. You can't let the guys score. You gotta

743
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: make a tackle. I saw, I don't know, not nomal

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Speaker 1: which rider. What might have been one of you guys

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Speaker 1: that said he just looks a beat off dude. Yes, well,

746
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: think about just the drives in general. I mean, twenty

747
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: of the twenty seven points came from either the special

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00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: teams Union and Greg's are line kicking, multiple field goals,

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Speaker 1: or the defensive touchdown. So you scored one touchdown on offense, right,

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Speaker 1: that came off of a turnover. That that drive that

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00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: you had was only five plays forty one yards to

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Speaker 1: find the end zone to Wilmari Cooper over the middle

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Speaker 1: for seven yards. The rest of your drives twelve of

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00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: fifty four was the opening drive. So decent little drive

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Speaker 1: ends up in a field goal, stalls out in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. Eleven of sixty one in the second quarter

757
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: stalls out in the red zone, twelve of fifty eight

758
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: stalls in the red zone, you get a turnover and

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00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: you're deep into your own enemy's territory. From the Jordan

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Speaker 1: Lewis punch out in the fourth quarter or me into

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, twenty nine yard field goal, you're one

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Speaker 1: of six in the red zone. That's where I think

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00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: you look at it stat wise, and you got to

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Speaker 1: fix that. And that's that's both Dak Prescott, but it's

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00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: also play calling, the offensive line not holding up in

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Speaker 1: short field. There's so many different things going wrong. I

767
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you could just put it on Dak alone.

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00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: How much of this is Kellen Moore's not working with

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Speaker 1: what he's got. Um, I'll say, you know a lot,

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Speaker 1: because you know, when you do a three and out,

771
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean three and out is on the whole call.

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00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's on the first down, it's not working.

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00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: Then you're trying to do something different on second and

774
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: that didn't work. And I mean, just the numbers are ridiculous.

775
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: To have sixteen three and outs in the first ten

776
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season and then to have twenty three

777
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: in the last four. Wow, you know, twenty three in

778
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: the last four games, three and four. You're right, You're right.

779
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: It's twenty four because it was an even six. It's

780
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: they're averaging six. They were averaging about one point five

781
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: three and outs a game. Now they're averaging six a game. Wow,

782
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: that's three and a half. And that's not stops. That's

783
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: you're on the field and you're off the field three

784
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: and out. Wow. And I'm counting a three and out

785
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: as one two interception, that's out. And that's the running game?

786
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Is it all based on the running game? Struggling? I

787
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: just don't believe. So, I don't. Yesterday was a day

788
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: when running was okay for me. It was especially at

789
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, it was all And what was those

790
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: third was all of these third and ten, a third

791
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: and fifteen, A lot of these it was third and

792
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: eights thirty four. They were getting short field on third down?

793
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: Right now they're not is that but it's still not

794
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount. Kill them, kill them more the genius

795
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: he was for the first seven games. Okay, all you

796
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: have to do go back and look, you have Gallop,

797
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: you have Amari Cooper, you have uh ceedee lamb, you

798
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: have a decent tight end. You know, you have a

799
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: decent running bag. Let it work, man, Your officeve line.

800
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Ain't ain't what it was the first four or five weeks,

801
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's a it's above average officeive line.

802
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: Let you help your quarterback make it work. Is it

803
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: gonna be an above average offensive line if for left

804
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: tackles out for a while. No, no, no, that won't

805
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: be above average. That won't be above acause that's me

806
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: and Nick Christmas gift Lord, please let this guy be healthy.

807
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: Look any update on there, they're gonna McCarthy. I'll have

808
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: something in his press conference. I'm sure on that one.

809
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Um well, I hope so at least they're supposed to

810
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: get reevaluated today. That might might mean an MRI, but

811
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure on that. Um oh, And you know

812
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: it makes it so mad. I could see if a

813
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: diva's play. It's the dude just took sixty sixty just

814
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: threw him down on his man leg. Yeah, stay on

815
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Speaker 1: your feet. You know Jimmy would accustomed me out. You

816
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: just blew our love to get your fat green. Nobody's

817
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: throwing you around. Yeah, it was some a couple of people.

818
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: One guy. Yeah, I can tell you around. And I

819
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: always say that because you say I don't sit there. Man,

820
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what, Man, what but I ain't

821
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: going back to them days. Thank God for Super Bowls. Yeah,

822
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: and we played I'm gonna tell you advantage we had

823
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: is we played in the division at that time, the

824
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Speaker 1: NFC East. That was the bomb that we won the

825
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and it was one it was two and

826
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Speaker 1: one and one and a half other opponents. It was

827
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and it was a half a

828
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay team and we could beat Green Bay nine

829
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Speaker 1: out of ten time. But that San Francisco team was

830
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: a beast. So yeah, and once we rolled through the East,

831
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: we got through hip. Yeah. Well, you know, I said

832
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: it all week last week when I asked about the game,

833
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a fist fight,

834
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: and I thought Lael needed to be out there to

835
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: be the right tackle and he was the enforcer and

836
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: he and he really was in there. But I didn't

837
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: mean that at the literal. I didn't think it was

838
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna be literal. But but I manifested it. I was

839
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: proud of that. I was proud of him and Zeke

840
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: for doing that. I know he got kicked out of

841
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: the game. You can't be getting kicked out of games.

842
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: But um, based off of what happened last year and

843
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback that got hit like that and Dalton and

844
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: there's no repercussions from that, is there? I mean like

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Speaker 1: he's not affective. Well, but I mean if you if

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Speaker 1: you look at what the NFL is doing, go back

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Speaker 1: to the Giants game when um kay z and could

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Speaker 1: could Darius Tony Tony. You know, Tony hit him right

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Speaker 1: in the in the face, and I don't think he

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Speaker 1: got it. He got ejected. I think you got a fine.

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Speaker 1: He got ejected, but he didn't get a suspension. Not

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Speaker 1: Tristan Hill got the two, but that was different, it

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Speaker 1: reduced to one, but that it was after a game,

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Speaker 1: and I think that they thought because he was waiting

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Speaker 1: for the gay can't do it. He was waiting in

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Speaker 1: like let's go and spontaneous versus premeditating. Yeah. Yeah. Also

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph on that banksgiving game and that sideline little scuffle.

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Speaker 1: They both got ejected and I think Kelvin got a fine,

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Speaker 1: but that no suspension. I don't think it'll affect them

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Speaker 1: moving forward. I do want to end up, you know,

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Speaker 1: on a high note here after the dreariness of all

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Speaker 1: you must go to talk about Parsons. Nah, we went

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Speaker 1: through that, but I just I want to hear what

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Speaker 1: was the scene like up there? Well, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was amazing, just because and it always is. It really is.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboy fans were always there. And in Washington. I

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Speaker 1: tell people this all the time. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: think the fifth most the state with the fifth most

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Speaker 1: views and all of America is Virginia. In Virginia, right

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of Cowboy fans there, um on

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Speaker 1: our website stuff like that. They're always out at games

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Speaker 1: like that. It doesn't matter who's doing what. And I

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Speaker 1: bet this year was a little different and they were

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Speaker 1: two and six. Now they were like they're probably selling

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Speaker 1: their tickets. Cowboys were about six and two. But it's

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Speaker 1: worst attendance in the league. I never thought Washington would be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough place to get to, man, its tough.

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Speaker 1: You gotta eat. It's AM's a team that's not very

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Speaker 1: well supported off the field right now. Either there's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on, a lot going on there. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: cowboys brought their predictions, they brought their swag, they brought

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Speaker 1: their benches, they brought it all there. But it was.

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Speaker 1: It was cool. It was kind of I think when

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Speaker 1: we're telling the story of that rivalry, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: that should be a deep blue at some point, um

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Speaker 1: that'll be in there, you know, we'll bring our own

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Speaker 1: benches up there. Yeah. Yeah, all right, boys, I think

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Speaker 1: we've done it. We made it through another one. So

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Speaker 1: how about that. Yeah, thank you, Kyle, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you a lot of fun. Thank you, appreciated it all.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's all we got then. So thank you

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Speaker 1: Chris for tweeking the Kyles back there. Thank you William

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Speaker 1: for getting us on the air. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: else is back there helping out, but appreciate it all again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Kyle, Nick, appreciate. Hopefully we'll have the gang

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Speaker 1: back together tomorrow. Until then, we will see you next

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Speaker 1: time on Hanging with the Boys. This has been a

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