1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: player for Seed, Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: the straded beer of normalcy. It is Monday of Draft week, 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. We're almost there. We're crawling scaling the mountaintop. 6 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: A repelling line is secure. We're going to get there, 7 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: but it's going to take a couple of more days. 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Need more chalk on the hands to get a good grip. 9 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of get a good toe hold here to 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: climb ever closer to the mountaintop of football, Nerd Christmas, 11 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: it's a pandemic has thrown at me. A couple of 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: things that have happened that have been unprecedented and very 13 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: welcomed in my football calendar. Oh, I'd like to hear 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: this first of all, As you know, because Eric Woods 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: logistics and testing and all that, he couldn't do the 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: games on the analytics side of the radio broadcast with Murph, 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: So I did that lots of fun. But also I 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: never went on the road. I didn't have to travel, which, 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: as you well know, as a play by play guy, 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: it is not the best part of the gig, right, 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: the travel, Yeah, it's the worst part of the gig. 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: So I didn't have to do that now, and it's 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. I've stayed at home. We were in 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the same booth here, a twelve minute drive from from 25 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: the house. It's great. Not many people that can work 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: radio broadcasts for an NFL team and stay at home 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: the whole sing exactly. So I had that going point. 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Now this week now as it pertains, the draft, the draft, 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: it's now a primetime thing, and I have been excluded. 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: I'll say uninvited, not uninvited, I just say it wasn't 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: asked to take part in the coverage. You're gonna be here, right, 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna be streaming, right, You're gonna be streaming coverage. 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: I can tell me about it. What is it now? 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: It's the Bill's Draft Special. So we'll be on a 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: half hour before the draft starts Thursday night, myself and 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Mandy glab and then after the Bill's pick will jump 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: on again. We're about a half an hour jump in 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: with some Brandon being coverage at the press conference and 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: likewise for Day two and d three. Right, So that's 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: so for me and why I got on this is 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: it's another opportunity for me to like have a few pops. Yeah, 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: got some, I got some. I will I have the bubble. 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: I will not be enjoying such beverages during the Who's 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna know, it's a stream, you're a cable. So so 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: I've got you know, I've got the but we're still 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of in the bubble. Mental, I got the bubble 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: coming over the house. It's a late things that kids 48 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: in bed have a few pops and watch the draft, 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: and of course then it's like and the only way 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: it can go wrong for me personally, not for the team. 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying for me is if I'm waiting, waiting, waiting, 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: and we get to the thirtieth pick finally and we 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: have a trade the Bills draftings move back, we'll see 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Yeah, that would be. So it's not all 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: that's the things about the thirtieth picks. It's not just hey, 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: we're moving back five spots. You'll have to wait a 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: little longer. So we'll see it in twenty four hours almost, 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: we'll see it about eighteen and a half hours. That 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: you sense, my that's how it would be. I sense 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: your consternation. Right, But because it is taskers world that 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: we're all living in here, thank you and so so. 62 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: But by the same joke, it is an opportunity. You're 63 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: just one more opportunity presented by the pandemic that I 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: otherwise would not have been able to participate in. Yeah, 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: because if it, you know, if it wasn't a primetime thing, 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: or I'd be over here streaming, you know the thing 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, but I'm telling you, man, bring a 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: six pack. We're gonna fridge out in the control room. 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: It's cable. It's like old cable. It's old cable. Crack 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: one open. You put it in your put it in 71 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: your bills Mafia mug, Yes, our bills Mafia mugs. There 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the bills Mafia mugs'd be remiss. Do you have the box? 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: They're handy too, We should show that too. Come they 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: do have the bug. Oh, I'm gonna have to go 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: under the desk here, gonna have to take them. I 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: threw mine and hit the lights. We'll go there there. 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: These things just went on sale, these mugs. They're Beeralo store, Yeah, 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: at the Buffalo Store. They're beer mugs. They come in 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: a white cardboard box, and they've put a box. They've 80 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: got Buffalo bills or Bills Mafia on the side with 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: a little inscription as touch kind of nice. So this 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: will be on April twenty ninth, day one of the 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. So I can't I'm not going to be 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: able to tell you how much these mugs are, but 85 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: they're here's the best part, they're free with any fifty 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: dollars purchase. Oh so you buy fifty dollars worth of 87 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: merch at the Buffalo store, you get to celebrate the draft. 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: And this starts on April twenty nine, day one of 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: the draft. This week. There you go. So you spend 90 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: fifty dollars, there you get a free Hills Mafia mug 91 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: and they'll be available, as I said, starting Thursday. Wall 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: supplies last Eastern Hills Mall, McKinley, Mall, Walden Gallery, a 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Canal Side, and Buffalo. That's where the four locations are 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: in Western New York. So there you go. I want 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: to get ready for Steve was just talking about pouring 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: some special libations during the draft, just you know, a 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: little you know, you know, this is the perfect vessel's 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: as I say, the isolation pod kind of thing. Still, 99 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm halfway through getting vaccinated, so I got 100 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's right. So I gotta kind of still 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: play by the I can't like go totally rogue yet. Yeah, 102 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: but that's yeah, I'm that's been great. At certain moments. 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: There have been perks, occasional perks. Not it's right, not 104 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: like it has been one long you know, merry go 105 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: round ride, I'm telling you. But still once in a 106 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: while you get the brass ring. I am convinced that 107 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: the pandemic is chiefly responsible for my home becoming now 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: a two dog household. Yes, everybody's cooped up at home, 109 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I think my kids are bored right 110 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: with just one dog who was getting a little older. 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: So let's just say the decision was negotiated, negotiation where 112 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: we would become a two dog household, and there was 113 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: no fill of bustering that whatsoever. Right, So listen, I 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: get it. I'm once they start in on that, their 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: only leverage is the constant battering of why not, and 116 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: that's and no reason is ever going to be good enough, 117 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: so you may as well just give in. We had 118 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: had and we did. I saw a guy today he says, 119 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm on his I was, I don't know what it was. 120 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I was following on Twitter, and he goes, and it's 121 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: great because I can relate. We had were down to 122 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: one dog now because of the well during the pandemic. 123 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: We aust our old guys, right, and but he said, 124 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: as i'm a I'm a owner of a great dog 125 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: and another dog, which wow, I can totally sharp. We 126 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: can all kind of relate to that. I got one 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: really great dog and I own another dog as well. Yes, 128 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: that was in his We tolerate the other profile. So 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: we got pretty lucky because we had never been dog 130 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: owners before our first dog, and she's fantastic. Did you 131 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: grow up with a dog? That's a funny story. I 132 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: had a dog for two weeks my dad. My dad 133 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: worked for New York City Department of Sanitation. You know, 134 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: he's on the truck and these guys come across all 135 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: kinds of things in New York. So came across a 136 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: stray dog. I had been pining for one for like 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: over a year. I'm probably eight or nine, perfect age. 138 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: So brings a beagle home like straight just found in 139 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: the trash, like around the trash milling around, brings the 140 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: thing home. My mom's ready to kill him because this 141 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: was a unilateral decision on his car. Right. It's got 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: this old mingy collar around his neck. It's like all 143 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: worn out and everything. Somebody clearly like just let him 144 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: out the door and said I can't do it, and 145 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: so we take the collar off. Name phone number on 146 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: the inside of the collar. So now I'm like, oh, no, 147 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: the so we call the number, but it wasn't a 148 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: working number anymore. So all right, we keep the dog. Dog. 149 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: Now beagles, well they do sometimes they bark, they yell. Yeah, yeah, 150 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: they yell. They're they're in the hound family, right, I 151 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: think they are. Yes, absolutely, this thing yelped like nobody's business. 152 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Mom is already getting on it. After a week, then 153 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: the thing has an accident on the living room carpet. 154 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, before we knew it, we were given the 155 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: dog to the paper boy. Oh well, you go two 156 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: weeks the dog lasted in the house and that was 157 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: the only dog ever dog I ever had, because there 158 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be another after that one. Wow yeah so 159 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: um so yeah. I mean first, so we had not 160 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: been dog owners as a family, and you know, we 161 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: didn't know about training and whatever else. First dog, Breeze. 162 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: We you know, she was a rescue from SPCA five 163 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: years old. House trains to go new stuff on command. Brilliant. 164 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: So now we're trying to be a little careful here 165 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: with the second dog because we've been spoiled by the 166 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: first one. Right, So we saw a dog a couple 167 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: of weeks ago we were gonna get that dog. Didn't 168 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: work out because they got adopted out from under US. Fine, 169 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, no big deal. Is plenty of dogs to adopt. 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: Happy for him. Yeah, this one from this weekend much 171 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: better match. Oh yeah, much better. Because you said, you 172 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: said you had this thing going on, and I said, 173 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: what about a pick chim? We pick? The two dogs 174 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: are identical. Yeah, well they're a little different. Um. First 175 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: dog is Lab pit terrier mix, and she's mostly lab 176 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: and pit. Um because she looks like a lab heads 177 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: a little pit like a pit square. You know. Yeah, 178 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: this dog is pit terrier, no lab in her whatsoever. 179 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Probably got a little bit, oh my gosh, a little 180 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: bit sweetheart. Yeah, she's a she's a little bit of 181 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: a heifer. We're gonna have to put her on a diet. 182 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: She's about fifteen pounds overweight, which was the same thing 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: we had with the first dog. But yeah, we'll whip 184 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: her into shape and she'll be great. The problem is 185 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: she's sixty seven pounds and she thinks she's lap dog. 186 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well she's right. I'm kind of weir. Yeah, 187 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, no your space here, kid. I've been I've 188 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: been a dog guy all my life, always had and 189 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: I've had about I've had about mate four three or 190 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: four maybe five dogs during my lifetime that have been 191 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: difference makers for me. So we're adjusting. Yeah, but it's 192 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: smooth so far. Minor, minor issues over the weekend, nothing major, 193 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: so we should be good to go. NFL News and Notes, Steve, 194 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: and as the draft fast approaches, there's plenty of news 195 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: and notes out there. This morning we hear I believe 196 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: it was Jeremy Fowler that reported this first from ESPN. 197 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I think ian Ian Rappaport followed up that the Patriots 198 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: are looking to move into the top ten if one 199 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: of the top four quarterback slides, particularly justin fields. So 200 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: there is talk that Carolina is looking to move out 201 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: at eight and would be interested in doing that to 202 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: accumulate more picks. They're still trying to build their roster up, 203 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: so that makes sense as Carolina being a move back candidate. 204 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: So could the Patriots make a move from fifteen to 205 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: eight to get the fourth quarterback in the class? Maybe? 206 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: So Denver looks like they want to stay put because 207 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: if one of the four quarterbacks is left, they would 208 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: take that quarterback as competition for Drew Locke. There GM George, 209 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: I believe it's Patton is how you pronounce his name. 210 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: It's at O n usually used to seeing two teas there. 211 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: In any event, he had said last week in his 212 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: pre draft press conference, we would not be opposed to 213 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: bringing in competition for Drew Locke. So that firmly leaves 214 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: the door open for Denver to take a QB at 215 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: nine if one of the four top four are still 216 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: on the board. There's always so many layers to this draft, 217 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: and I was reading Peter King's article this morning, Football 218 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: Morning American. After you get past number three, there's Jacksonville, 219 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: New York Jets and the San Francisco forty nine ers one, 220 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: two and three, four the next six picks. The general 221 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: manager making those calls is in his first draft as 222 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: a general manager. So you gotta think Atlanta, Atlanta, Terry 223 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Fontina and number seven is Brad Holmes in Detroit. Number 224 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: eight is Scott Fitter from Carolina, and then number nine 225 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: as your guide, George Patton from Denver. You gotta think, 226 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, do you do? Those guys want to like 227 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: boom put a stamp on it on their first draft. 228 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Look at what Brandon? Yeah, and by the way, happy 229 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: enough that was his first draft. Happy anniversary. This is 230 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the anniversary of Josh Allen's draft day three 231 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: years ago. On this day, Josh Allen was the seventh 232 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: pick in the twenty eighteen NFL Draft by the Buffalo Bills. 233 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: And if you want to feel good for about thirty seconds, yeah, 234 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: we have his first interview with Susie Culber from ESPN 235 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: after he was selected. Enjoy this well, obviously, I just 236 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: want to say, you know, thank you to the Bills 237 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: organization for you know, making the leap and putting their 238 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: faith in me. IM gonna make them look like the 239 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: smartest people out there. I'm humble, I'm blessed to be 240 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: part of the Bills mafia. H It's one of the 241 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: greatest moments of my life. What do you want your 242 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: new Bills teammates to know about you? I'm ready to 243 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: come win. Um, I'm ready to go to work. That's 244 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: the only thing I want to do is come win 245 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: football games. And the great you know city of buff Flow. 246 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: They deserve it. You know, it's it's a tough place 247 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: to play. It's a tough team. Um, and I'm ready 248 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: to step in and uh, you know, go help this 249 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: team win football games. Somewhat prophetic, let's go somewhat prophetic. Yeah, 250 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: it was, And I doesn't get old. You can just 251 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: keep watching watch that next year because you can see 252 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: after that you get a sense that it was a 253 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: big moment for him. He was a he was much younger. 254 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Oh he's here, Yeah, he's smiling, he's you know, he's 255 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: just got that little bit of Opie Taylor in and 256 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: from Maybury RFD and him still you go back, you 257 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: remember how young he looked and stuff, and never the 258 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: mind that he's six five. Yeah, and it's crazy and 259 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: it's only been three years, but how much different and 260 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: more confident he looks now and how he handles the media, 261 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: and uh, there have been there's a couple of games 262 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: that didn't work out, But like, for instance, that first 263 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: year when he got to Miami in week last week 264 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: of the season, when you know, in the the Charles 265 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Clay dropped in the end zone where they should have 266 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: won that game and might have wanted if Clay could 267 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: have just pulled that in because he made that incredible 268 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: throw and he'd made about six plays in that game. 269 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: There's been a ton of games over the last three 270 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: years where this team would not have won them had 271 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: he not been their quarterback, and that, you know, you 272 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: keep going with that all the way through his career, 273 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: and it's just been fun to watch. What a transformation, 274 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: and he is the main reason why Trey Lance is 275 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: getting the consideration. He is as high as pick three, 276 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: I believe down effect. NFL Networks ian Rappaport was reporting 277 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: late last night that the Niners are supposedly down to 278 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: Lance and Jones for the pick at three. Personally, I 279 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: think they they had their guy in mind when they 280 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: made the trade back in late March. As to who 281 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: they wanted at three, I think they left the door 282 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: open for other quarterback prospects to convince them otherwise. And 283 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I suppose with all the due diligence that the Niners 284 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: have done second Pro Day with Justin Fields, second Pro 285 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: Day with Trey Lance. I suppose they are giving those 286 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: two guys every opportunity to convince them otherwise and move 287 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: them off of mac Jones. Whether they have or not 288 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: remains to be seen, but according to reports, it looks 289 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: like Fields is out of that mix and it's a 290 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: two horse race. In all likelihood, it's going to be Jones, 291 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: and I think the reason I've reached this point, Steve, 292 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: and tell me if you feel differently. I think it's 293 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: going to be Jones because Kyle Shanahan wants to win 294 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: right now, and I don't know that that's the one 295 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: thing that Trey Lance probably can't give you right now 296 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: because he's had seventeen starts at the college level and 297 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: it was at FCS. Right now, if mac Jones doesn't 298 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: have too many more starts than him, because he was 299 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: only a one year starter full time too right, I 300 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: mean he took over for Tuah and then started the 301 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: following I've read a bunch of evaluations about mac Jones 302 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: and there's a it's a wide ranging but they go 303 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: from this when when he came into a spell, toa 304 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: when toa got the hip injury or whatever it was. 305 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: When whenever he got his starts, immediately the offensive coordinator, 306 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: which it was a sark because left for Maryland. So 307 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: as soon as mac Jones came in the the evaluator 308 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: watching the film noticed they stopped running run pass options. 309 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: They started dropping back and having him read defense because 310 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: they trusted pro style. They automatic. He said, hey, they 311 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: trust this guy. He can drop back and he's making 312 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: these reads and he's they trust him. And then now 313 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: the detractors will also say, he's playing with with the 314 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner is going to be a Jalen Waddle's 315 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: a top pick and they had three Najie Harris. He's 316 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: got all these guys are at plus A two or 317 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: three offensive linemen that are gonna go in the first two. 318 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: He's playing with a bunch of pro football players in 319 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: a pro offense. How bad against engineering students? I mean, 320 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: how bad is he gonna Look, I'm exaggerating that right, right, 321 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: because he does play in the SEC. Right. So, but 322 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: the evaluator said this, Yeah, you can say what you want. 323 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: He's playing with a bunch of guys who can really 324 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: play at the highest level. But none of the guys 325 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: he's thrown too had to do anything special to make 326 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: a play. The ball was on it if he was 327 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: one time, the read was right, the open guy was hit, 328 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: the right decision was made, the right checks were made, 329 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: the protections were switched. Everything he ran at all. Now, 330 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: certainly the guys he's running with were really good, but 331 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: none of them had to be extraordinary because of him. 332 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: His ball placement is very, very very good. There. I 333 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: don't think there's any debate about that. And you could say, oh, well, 334 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: of course he's gonna put the ball in the right spot. 335 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: The guy had a clean pocket all the time. No, 336 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: he didn't. Right, This guy would take shots in the 337 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: pocket to make the play. Yeah, and that's impressive. He 338 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: looked just like a pro football player in that offense. 339 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: He didn't and so he didn't run around. He wasn't 340 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: all over the joint. He stood in the pocket, watch 341 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: the blitz come at him, delivered the ball, and accepted 342 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: the hit. That's how. That's how you gotta make your cash, 343 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: And especially a guy who's a pocket guy, you're gonna 344 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: have to take some shots sometimes. And I think that 345 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: what you're looking at here is a conscious decision by 346 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. If it is in fact Mac 347 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Jones at pick three on Thursday night, they're making a 348 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: conscious decision to get the guy that can help them 349 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: win right now. He is arguably the highest floor player, 350 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: maybe short of Trevor Lawrence in this draft class at 351 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and there's still some ceiling there for him. 352 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I think there is. At the same time, though, I 353 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: think that if Trey Lance becomes everything that he can be, 354 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: he's arguably the highest ceiling quarterback in this draft because 355 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: of his physical attributes, his work ethics off the charts, 356 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: desire to be great as very good as well, so 357 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: he checks a lot of the boxes. The only box 358 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: that Lance can check right now is the experience box, 359 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: the level of competition box. Those are noticeably absent in 360 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: comparison to Jones, and it's really going to be a 361 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: decision that's made on floor versus ceiling and who can 362 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: get them there right now? And they are in win 363 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: now mode. The Niners are, make no mistake about it. 364 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: They're two years removed from the Super Bowl appearance and 365 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: an NFC title, and I think they feel with their 366 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: roster getting healthy again after a slew of catastrophic injuries 367 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: last year. They say, we get a kid that can 368 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: execute right away, we're back in business right and that's 369 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: it's amazing too that if they're going to counter all 370 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: these guys getting healthy, why aren't they counting on Jimmy 371 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Garoppolo's day getting healthy. It's a good question and a 372 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: ballad one, Steve, and I still believe he's going to 373 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: get moved if they get Mac Jones Thursday night. I 374 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: think Garoppolo has moved before the weekend's over. You think, 375 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: do you think Garoppolo heads to New England. I think 376 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: there's a good chance of that. I think they know 377 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: what They only gave up a second round pick to 378 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: get them. I think they've come to the realization they're 379 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: not getting a one for Garoppolo, and so I think 380 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: they would take a two and that opens the door 381 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: for a team like New England if for some reason 382 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: they can't get into the top ten to get the 383 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: fourth best quarterback prospect in this draft, I think they 384 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: would see Garoppolo as a pretty good consolation prize and 385 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: give up their pick at forty six in the second round. 386 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: I could see them doing that. Yes, yeah, I kind 387 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: of I agree with that. I agree with that, and 388 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that because of what happened with the 389 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and the Dolphins, the Dolphins going from 390 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: three to twelve and then back to six. The forty 391 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: nine ers, and you mentioned this in the run up 392 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: to the show, the Niners gave up two pick at twelve, 393 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: two more ones, three to three. I think three ones 394 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: in a three to get from not from twelve to three, 395 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: that is an enormous call lost. So if anybody else 396 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: wants to jump up there like that, the cost has 397 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: automatically been set by the Niners, and that kills it. 398 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: So the thought is there's not going to be very 399 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: many moves in the top ten of this draft as 400 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: a result of the forty nine ers trade because of 401 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: what the cost of doing, because it's what figures to be. Yeah, 402 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: unless there's a team up there that says, you know, 403 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: I don't need three ones, but i'll take it one 404 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: and two twos, or given your one this year and 405 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: one next year, it's good enough. Or one this year 406 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: and two twos won this year and one next year, 407 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: or whatever whatever the cost is. If there's a team 408 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: that but at the top ten, there's not too many well, 409 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: So the conventional wisdom is this okay, in terms of 410 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots making a move from fifteen to eight or 411 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: from fifteen up into the top ten, it's all predicated 412 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: on the Falcons taking the best non quarterback on the board, 413 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: whether that's pits Chase, whoever they like, at four. Then 414 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: the race is on to get up there, because now 415 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarterback is sliding. It was not taken with 416 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the fourth pick. So now people are like, oh, fourth 417 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks still on the table. Let's get Sinci on the phone. 418 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Let's get you know, Miami on the phone at six, 419 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Let's get Detroit on the phone at seven, let's get 420 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: Caroline on the phone. At date. Who can we make 421 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: a deal with to get up there? And then you 422 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: orchestrate a deal and you say, okay, as long as 423 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: our guys there, this deal's happening, you know. And that's 424 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: how you leave it until the moment of truth arrives. 425 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: So Cincinnati could be in a really good spot to 426 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: slide back and still get an offensive tackle or maybe 427 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 1: one of the top wideouts. So now the question becomes 428 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: how many people are, how many teams are in play? 429 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: Should Atlanta pass on the fourth quarterback, and you can 430 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: argue that Denver may get nervous and say, we've got 431 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: to get up higher than nine if we want to 432 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: get this fourth guy, So they may move up from 433 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: nine to five. You know, if Atlanta stays on the 434 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: clock and picks a non QB, maybe they jump up 435 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: and they're in the arguably the best position in need 436 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: of a quarterback. Right. So then other teams are thinking, well, 437 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: we gotta get higher than Denver. So maybe we gotta 438 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: call Caroline get up to eight, and you know New 439 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: England's probably trying to say, well, how high do we 440 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: have to go to get the guy? I gotta tell 441 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: you this, um, how do you feel? How do you 442 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: feel Friday morning, Steve? If New England's able to get 443 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: up there and get the fourth quarterback, whether it's Fields Lance, 444 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's gonna be Fields or Lance is the 445 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: fourth guy, Yeah, that's you gotta, Well, you gotta because 446 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: if mac Jones, you gotta get yourself three. Now there's 447 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: two guys that I could see teams being interested in 448 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: taking in the top ten, both Fields and Lands. Yes, 449 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: that's set off a cavalcade of offer, you're right, you're right, 450 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: and in New England will be in the conversation. There's 451 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: no question they're gonna they're gonna try and get on 452 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: the phone and make that happen. I would think more importantly, though, 453 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: what happens if mac Jones isn't the guy for the 454 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: forty nine ers? How far? How far does he slide? 455 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Because all of a sudden, you've got this guy who's 456 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: physically he's a level below Fields and Lance the other 457 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. But mentally he's a guy to come in 458 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: and run your offense right away virtually. But he's you know, 459 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: his ceilings not as high, but he's gonna be pretty 460 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: good to start. He's gonna be maybe the best. He 461 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: may have the best year of any of these guys 462 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: in his first year good. You know what I'm saying 463 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: statistically because he's because he's gonna know it mentally. Then 464 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: the intriguing part to me is if mac Jones does 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: not come off the board, does New England say he's 466 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: gonna be at us at fifteen? I don't know If 467 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: he gets there, I don't either, but he has been 468 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: said to be a second rounder. That is a tough way. 469 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: That is a long wait because you're watching okay, So 470 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Niners at three, surprise people. They take Lance. Now Jones 471 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: and Fields are on the board. People are gonna be 472 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: going gaga over Fields. So does Atlanta take Fields at four? 473 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: Do they Hagan nine quarterback? Or do they move out? 474 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: I think they probably take best non QB. If they don't, 475 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: I don't think they move I think they're there and 476 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: there's some subliminal, subliminal, some underneath under the radar factors. 477 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: With Atlanta, they're in cap jail. They've got to move 478 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: some guys around. And it's been thrown out there by 479 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: another Peter King reference. It could happen Julio Jones, who's 480 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: thirty two, but he's an icon of the franchise. But 481 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: he's thirty two, and if they trade him after June second, 482 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: then they save fifteen million dollars on the cap so 483 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: and split the cap hit in half between this year 484 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: and next year. So if you draft a kid like 485 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, who you get on a rookie deal, and 486 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: trade Julio Jones, you get fifteen half fifteen and a half. 487 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: You could say, all right, Jamar Chase at this point 488 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be maybe as good as you know, young 489 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, he's pretty damn and we save and we right, 490 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: and we save fifteen million dollars on the care fourteen 491 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: point five whatever minus whatever Chase gets as a rookie. 492 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: So do they take a guy to replace Julio Jones, 493 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: save the cap money and get rid of Julio after that. 494 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: That's so there are forces working on these franchises that 495 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: don't have everything to do with what's going on today 496 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: or Thursday. In this case, It's gonna be interesting to 497 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: see what happens there. But yeah, four is the real 498 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: pivot point. Niners shocks and people and not take mac Jones, 499 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: which people believe they will at this point in time, 500 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and then the Falcons could really turn the draft on 501 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: its head at four based on what they do. There's 502 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: a lot still going on with the forty nine ers. 503 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: But I've heard this thing too. Everybody's you start talking 504 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: yourself in circus about what the Niners a thing because 505 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: you always think there's misinformation. They're trying to they're taking posturing. 506 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: Do you they're saying it's down. We've heard now today 507 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: it's coming out that they're down to trade Land and 508 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: mac Jones and they they're on both ends of the spectrum. 509 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: Mac Jones win right now, low ceiling, high floor, high floor, 510 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: very steady, can win with you can win with him now, 511 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: You can win with him now. But you're gonna get 512 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: basically what you got Trey Lance is the Josh Allen guy. 513 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: He comes in. You got a guy that can throw 514 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: it out of the stadium. You can outrun three quarters 515 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: of your defensive defensive personnel. Great athlete, but he may 516 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: it may be twenty twenty four before he's really good. No, 517 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: twenty three, probably twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, so 518 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be twenty twenty three before he's really good. Now, 519 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: now the conjecture is this, Okay, you got mac Jones. 520 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: And they're saying this, they're leaking this out because neither 521 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: one of them is the guy they're gonna take Justin 522 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Fields because he's the athlete he's got he ran a 523 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: big time in Yeah, it's totally they're totally throwing. They're saying, 524 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: these are the two guys, and they're gonna go boom, 525 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: there's our guy because they don't want anybody making trades, 526 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, of course the Jets 527 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: could screw that all up and take fields. Oh my gosh, 528 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: this is why the draft is. Yeah, such, it is 529 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: the best football, It is the best theater and all 530 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: that for the Niners. And why would the Niners do 531 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: that because they don't know that the Jets are gonna 532 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: not do something. Jets they could and take and they're 533 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna got The Jets are gonna take Pinney sewell you know, 534 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows could happen. They could take offensive 535 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: lineman or better yet, a fullback, Roger Vick, Kyle Brady, 536 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman. I remember, I remember they got absolutely roasted 537 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: for the Loghman pick. Oh my gosh. They people were 538 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: lighting things. There is nothing better in the draft than 539 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: when the draft was in New York and the Jets 540 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: fans and the Giants fans were up in the upper 541 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: level watching this all unfold. So it was made for television. 542 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: They were really because the producers could go podium, Um, yeah, 543 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell or Paul tag Taboo or even before him, 544 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: Pete Roselle. They announced the pick, cut to the Jets 545 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: fan and there's some Giants fan pointing at him and 546 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: laughing like and team doesn't know anything, and vice versus 547 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: you vote for a budget. Jets fans got there. He's 548 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: got both hands on hands over his head, going, na, 549 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Oh my gosh, it's priceless, so 550 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: terrible that they moved the draft around because you don't 551 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: get that enjoyment anymore. Um, although it'll be hard for 552 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: the Jets to mess up this draft. But the reason 553 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: this kind of prompted our Twitter poll for today, all 554 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: this talk about these quarterbacks offensive players in the top 555 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: ten and give credit where it's due. NFL Networks Andrew 556 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Ciliano tweeted out late last week that there is a 557 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: chance that this year's draft could could have no defensive 558 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: players taken in the top ten on Thursday night, and 559 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: he did the research. He said it would be a first. 560 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: There has never been an NFL draft in the common 561 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: era since nineteen sixty seven without a defensive player taken 562 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: in the top ten. So the question we pose to 563 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: you on the Twitter poll today is this, if there 564 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: are no defensive players taken in the top ten of 565 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: this year's draft, how does that change your thoughts on 566 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: what the bill should do at pick thirty. Because we 567 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: knew the quarterbacks, we're going to push a lot of 568 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: the defensive talent down the draft board. But that's what 569 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: five guys at most, the whole top ten is offense 570 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: of players that could dramatically change the conversation as to 571 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: what the Bills could be looking at when they're on 572 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: the clock at three. For me, I think that begs 573 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: begs you as a front office to sit, just to 574 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: hold your water, just to sit tight, because if you 575 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: need a defensive player, which we've argued right corner corner rush, yeah, 576 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: you could be getting a top twenty defensive player at 577 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: pick thirty because the first ten picks were offensive players 578 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: right now. Certainly you know in the next twenty picks 579 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a bunch of defenders taken because they'll 580 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: be a run on them or whatever. But I think 581 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: it just you know, you gotta and plus two. It's 582 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: not over. After those first ten picks. You still got 583 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: every defensive player in this draft still on the board. 584 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: You got to watch the rest how the rest of 585 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: it falls, because you know, it doesn't mean automatically you're 586 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna get a good player, because if it could be 587 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: fourteen to the next fifteen our defensive defensive players, right, 588 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: So I'm it does make you sit up and go okay, 589 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait wait mean and you go back 590 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: to your scenarios of your pre draft and your mock 591 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: draft that you run in your office up to that point, 592 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: say okay, okay, now who do we call? Who's gonna 593 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: who we're gonna call first, you know, and get up there? 594 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: And how we know it's gonna cost us this to 595 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: get up there. It's gonna cost us that to get 596 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: up there. But they said, if this guy's available, the 597 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: deal's off. If that guy's available, the deals off. So 598 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: you go, okay, all these guys said, have an offensive 599 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: if this offensive guys available, if that offensive guy's available. 600 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: Of that offensive guys are available, those three teams are 601 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: still in the money because they're guys are off the board. Yeah, 602 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: because of the top ten picks. So now we got 603 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: a chance to call them. Um, they're not looking for 604 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: a defender. So all of a sudden, opportunities pop up 605 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: and opportunities are taken away from other teams. You go 606 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: down your menu and say, okay, mock draft for a 607 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, and they and they're off and running. 608 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: Break time for us. When we come back, we want 609 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: to discuss this with you. If the top ten picks 610 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: in this year's draft are all offensive players. Does that 611 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: change your thoughts on what the Bills should do at thirty? 612 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: You can let us know at eighth three, five fifty one, 613 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty or on the 614 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bills Live. We're back in a minute. 615 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Caster 616 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: with you here on a Monday before the twenty twenty 617 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: one NFL Draft, and some more NFL news and notes. 618 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: Trickling in first from Monday Morning Quarterbacks Albert Brier in 619 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: his column, he broke down the bills potential thinking ahead 620 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: of their selection at thirty and it basically said he 621 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: said this, a second tier corner probably would make the 622 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: most sense. But Clemson's Travis et N was a name 623 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: raised to me for buff Hello and the comp I've 624 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: gotten most for him is Alvin Kamara, a player you 625 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: have to have a plan for, but one who can 626 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: be incredibly difficult for defenses to handle. Adding Etn to 627 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: that skilled group as an underneath weapon with the Bill's 628 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: ability to go downfield would be pretty tantalizing. That again 629 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: from Monday Morning Quarterbacks Albert Breer, who is saying there 630 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: is a lot of consideration being given to Travis etn 631 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: and he's been linked heavily to the Bills. Now again 632 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: we remind you this is the lying season. So is 633 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: this a smokescreen or is this every bit legitimate as 634 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: to what the Bills would be strongly considering at thirty 635 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: We'll find out in three days time. There is also 636 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: this from the NFL. ESPN's Adam Schefter and NFL Networks 637 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager have addressed the missing medical information on certain 638 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: prospects in this draft. No combine, so no major medical 639 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: clearing house for the thirty two NFL clubs to draw 640 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: on as invaluable information, and you'll hear any GM in 641 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: the NFL say the most important part of the NFL 642 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: combine is the medical so Adam Schefter tweets this, teams 643 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: struggling to get accurate medical information on prospects due to 644 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: the absence of this year's combine, even though there were 645 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: medical exams in Indie this month in April given to 646 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty players. Teams are not pleased there 647 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: will be last minute decisions in the draft based off 648 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: medical info. Still trickling in. Peter Schrager retweeted Schefter's tweet 649 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: and added the following, can't stress this enough. The fact 650 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: that some medical info is unknown four days from the 651 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: draft is major and one reason why some teams may 652 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: be more willing to trade back and punt on this 653 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: year's first and second round in favor of next year's 654 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: with a full year of scouting and a proper combine 655 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: a couple of things on the first On the one 656 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: about uh the Travis Aten and the Alvin Kamara comparison, 657 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: and that that to me is absolutely positively smoke. Here's 658 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: why Travis atn couldn't catch. Couldn't catch his own head 659 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: with both hands two years ago. I mean, you're and 660 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: you know he worked on it, no question, he's been 661 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: reported him, but he he could not catch two years ago, 662 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: so you know, and yeah he has had some receptions, 663 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: no question about it. But he is not Alvin Kamara. 664 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: He is not in the conversation with the best pass 665 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: catching running back in the league or one of if 666 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: him and uh CMC maybe down in Carolina, you know 667 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: he's Kamara is one of the top receiving threats in 668 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: the in the league. At running back. Travis ATN is 669 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: not in that in that league, So to me, that's 670 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: all smo. Okay, this thing about the medicals, teams punting, punting, 671 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: and trading back. I think there's a lot of teams 672 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: that want to trade back this year, but only because 673 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: the first round talent doesn't go as deep, particularly on 674 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: the defensive line, defensive tackle especially. I think there's a 675 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: there's been a growing body of analytics reports that say 676 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: that the best place to draft these guys is in 677 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: the second, third, and fourth rounds because when you get 678 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: a guy in the first round, it changes things for 679 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: the team and it changes things for the player. The 680 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: pressure is more for the team to get him in there, 681 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: get something out of him, don't make him be if 682 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't play his first year, he's a bust. And 683 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: for the player there's a little bit of a combination 684 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: of things entitlement, expectations, and the same pressure is applied 685 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: to him. So it's almost a self defeating thing to 686 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: get a guy in the first round if he's not 687 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: quite ready for it maturity wise, uh, skill set wise, 688 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: size wise, if he's got some over things to overcome. 689 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: So all of that stuff about, you know, teams trading out. 690 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: I think that's true every year. I think this year 691 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: it may be a little more. But I don't think 692 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: you can't blank at everything and say teams are gonna 693 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: punt on the entire first and second round because of medicals. 694 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Seems like a bit of hyperbole. We're talking about a 695 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: dozen guys, maybe at the top of it, or not 696 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: even so. Most of these guys, they know as much 697 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: as they need to know about these guys, And not 698 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: all these guys are coming in with injury baggage, like 699 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips. You know, not everybody's coming from that place. 700 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, certainly the cornerback, the cornerback with a back injury, 701 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley. Okay, there's another one. There's two, and they're 702 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: pretty they're pretty special players, special elite athletes. But that's 703 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: two out of two hundred and fifty six they're gonna 704 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: be drafted. So this thing like, oh, the whole league's 705 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna punt on that, I don't think. I that seems 706 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: like a bit of an over I think that's an overstretch. 707 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: There may be one or two, but hunt on a 708 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: certain pick. But the medical, the missing medical information is 709 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: a very very real thing, and it's going to impact 710 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: the risk that general managements across the league are willing 711 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: to take. Every general manager is different. Some aren't afraid 712 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: to swing for the fences and take a big risk. 713 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: Others are going to be more conservative because of the 714 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: missing medical information. And we heard GM Brandon Bean say 715 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: these very words last week about the medical He said, quote, 716 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: the medical is nowhere near where it usually is. That 717 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: is a direct quote from him. So that's a guy 718 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: that is embedded in this process and run in the 719 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: show for one of the thirty two NFL clubs, and 720 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: he said nowhere near where it usually is. So you 721 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: better believe there is a lot of legwork still going 722 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: on even this week for pro and college personnel departments. 723 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: They are beating the bushes, they are calling. They got 724 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: doctors across the country on speed dial hoping to get 725 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: a last shred of necessary information to cross the t's 726 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: and dot the eyes on certain players in this draft 727 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: pool that they're interested in but may not be if 728 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: they can't get all of the medicals in on those players, 729 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: or if there are players with medical question marks with 730 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: no answers right, they're gonna be forced to take those 731 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: players off the board or move them way down the 732 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: board as a result, right, And they will do that. 733 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: They'll do that. The question is what it comes down 734 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: to is this, do you look at the guy's history 735 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: he's got he had this injury or that injury, or 736 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of minor injuries, that kind of thing, 737 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: and if you know about him, you move them down 738 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: come in certain thing. If you don't know about him, 739 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: the question is how far do you move them down 740 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: for something you don't know about. Yeah, and that's or 741 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's just a risk not worth taking, in which 742 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: case he's right off the he's off the board, yeah, 743 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: or he's off your board completely. But you're not gonna 744 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: do that for a guy who, for instance, bounce back 745 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: and played a full season. You'll do that for guys 746 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: who didn't finish the season this last season or two 747 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: seasons ago or opted out. That's an issue. And I 748 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: think that's that's and that's where he's saying, well, every 749 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: guy's different. So making a blanket statement, yeah, everything's not 750 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: right exactly where it has been in the past. I 751 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: get it, But every all of these guys have a 752 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: different case. And you say, well, this guy's stuff suffered 753 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: from Hammy's hamstring injuries his whole career or whatever. He's 754 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: had a couple three of those. What's the deal you have? 755 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: You'll have exercise science people say we can fix that. 756 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: He's you know, you're gonna get him a chiropractor, get 757 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: him some stretch. You gotta make sure his legs are 758 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: stretched evenly. That can not all the stuff they do. 759 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: And we can fix that. We can rebuild it like 760 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: the six million dollar man, remember that exactly. We can 761 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: rebuild it will make him better than he was. We're 762 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: dating ourselves better, faster. A great show. All right, We 763 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: have to take a break, but when we come back, 764 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: we'll get your comments on the tweet sheet. And don't 765 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: forget we haven't mentioned this yet, but coming up in 766 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: the second hour of our program from the athletic Bruce 767 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: Feldman with some interesting pre draft content that we want 768 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: to share with you. We'll get with him in the 769 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: second hour of the show. Bruce Feldman coming up in 770 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes time. Here on One Bill's Line, presented 771 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back 772 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Is the show. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 773 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: are shepherding you through it. And we are three days 774 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft, and the rumors are swirling. It 775 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: is kind of stopped. Now they're just gonna come one 776 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: after another. It is fun, though, I mean, it's such 777 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, it wasn't like this. No, 778 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: it has become such a thing for this It's a 779 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: huge event on the NFL calendar. It always has been, 780 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: but it's been off the public radar for so long, 781 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: and now that the league has grown and grown and grown, 782 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: it's it's like it's an entity unto itself. Now. You 783 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: know why. It's because you know, free agency starts. There's 784 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: really no event when free agency starts, right, So it 785 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: is the super Bowl of the off season, and it 786 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: is it's like a playoff game for everybody. They're saying 787 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: they're expecting fifty five thousand fans strewn about in the 788 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: streets of Cleveland watching this thing. I'm telling I agree. 789 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: I think they probably will be probably more than that. 790 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: People are ready to get out well that too, right, 791 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: That's it's it really is. It's like a playoff game 792 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: for every single team in the league. I mean, I'm 793 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: like I told you, I'm I'm having a thing at 794 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: the house. I got some buddies coming over. Everybody. It 795 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: used to be and we used to have I have 796 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: a huge events here. Yeah, roll the TV out onto 797 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: the back patio. Maybe it's gonna be great. Get up, 798 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: Except it starts at eight o'clock at night. It's like 799 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: thirty minutes before thy minutes before my bedtime here. No, 800 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: but I just you said it. The rumors are swirling. 801 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: You're trying to get inside these guy's minds. And it's 802 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: fun too, because this kind of thing like forgot, Like 803 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: Shanahan out in San Francisco, we were talking about they 804 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: traded three number ones to get up nine spots in 805 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: the first round. You got Miami trading back to twelve, 806 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: back into number six. You got the New England Patriots, 807 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: who are, in my opinion, are desperately in need of 808 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: a fresh face at quarterback. You think they're gonna make 809 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: a bold move somehow, some way to get up in 810 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: the top, you know. And you realize when you start 811 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: talking about it like this, we don't know anything about 812 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: these guys and what they think we can try. Yeah, 813 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: And that's the fun part. That's the thing. If I 814 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: were him, if I were him, here's what here's what 815 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: they should because you know, I've been watching these guys 816 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: for the last three years too. I've seen fifty of 817 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: their games and that kind of thing. I've seen him 818 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. I'm better. I know what he's thinking. 819 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: I know what I think, and I think I think 820 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: I know what he's seeing to do. That's exactly that's 821 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 1: the game you get into there. I mean, there's there's 822 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: so many and you know you got when you have 823 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: thirty two NFL teams, you have storylines galore, like Las 824 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: Vegas at seventeen. They're at They're a team that loves 825 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: superior athletes. Are they going to be tempted to take 826 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley despite the back surgery at seventeen? Are they 827 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna swing on a guy who's GPS tractor tracker clocked 828 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: him at twenty four miles per hour on an interception return. 829 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: That's moving Steve's twenty four miles per hour. The Raiders 830 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: are fascinating because they still have that a little bit 831 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: of Al Davis in him. There their owner Mark Davis, 832 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: Al's son Maverick. They back in the day Al Davis's 833 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: philosophy was this this the most important position on your 834 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: team was corner. And he got along with John Madden 835 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: because John Madden thought corners were the second most important 836 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: team and he thought the most important group was the 837 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, and al Davis thought the offensive line was 838 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: the second most of them. So they got along. They 839 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: kind of saw things the same way. But we all 840 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: know this. Al Davis was all about athletics, athletes and speed, 841 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's why Gruden falls into that. He 842 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: and that's what got in his way in Tampa. He 843 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 1: wanted a world championship, and then all of a sudden, 844 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: he starts switching guys in and out, in and out. 845 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: He there's always a shiny new toy on the shelf 846 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: he wants to buy. There's always a better athlete, bigger, 847 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: a stronger athlete. That's his thing. And he doesn't care 848 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 1: if you live next door to him, like Derek Carr does. 849 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: He's getting somebody that's better than you. He's always looking 850 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. He's always that they're tight end waller. 851 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, he's okay, guy, he's not. Really. He's the biggest, 852 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 1: fastest guy. He's going to John Gruden and he's sitting 853 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: there at what seventeen. Can't you see them taking cable? Absolutely, 854 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: that is an absolutely, that is absolute no brainer. They 855 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: don't care about his back injury, two back surgeries and acl. 856 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: Let me just be I'll just be a little bit 857 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: old school. Just throw a couple of extra pills on 858 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: his stool before the before the game. He'll be fine. 859 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: He'll he'll play through the pain. Give him the needle, 860 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: He'll play through the pain. Okay. I mean that's like 861 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: the old days, right, And these guys are interchangeable for 862 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: these for that mentality, who damn things they don't even love, 863 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: they don't even like, they don't even they're not even 864 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: loyal to the guys they love. The quarterbacks in this 865 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: draft class alone would have been able to sell this 866 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: thing easily. There is so much other stuff between pandemic restrictions, 867 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: missing medical, no combine out zoom interviews, no thirty visits 868 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: like opt outs. He's gonna be bananas bananas. See, that's 869 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: what we thought too early. There's gonna be a wide 870 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: discrepancy and what teams have on their board and what 871 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: they don't know, and what they think of what they 872 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: do have, even the things they all have on their 873 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: board they're gonna be wide discrepancies and how they see 874 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: them break time for us. When we come back, we 875 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 1: get on the horn with one mister Bruce Feldman. He's 876 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: gonna be joining us from the Athletic has some interesting 877 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: content on some pre draft news as well as some 878 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,439 Speaker 1: of the biggest athletic freaks in this draft class. Even 879 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: some of these numbers you won't believe. We'll cover some 880 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: of those with Bruce when we return here on one 881 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Line presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo 882 00:49:54,600 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all 883 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: over the field. Kind of unique. He was kind of 884 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. 885 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: We're not even in the straged fear of normalcy. Ah, 886 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: we're number two of one Bills live, three days away 887 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft and here to help us sift 888 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 1: through some of the discussion on the quarterbacks in this class, 889 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: as well as maybe some sleepers and Mac Jones rise 890 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: up the board is Fox Sports college football analyst and 891 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: writer for The Athletic, Bruce Feldman joining us. Also the 892 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: author of the QB The Making of Modern Quarterbacks. Bruce, 893 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time here. We appreciate it. We 894 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: gotta imagine you're busy here in the run up to 895 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: the draft, so thanks for giving us a few minutes 896 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,919 Speaker 1: it to be on with you guys. Thanks for having me. Yeah, 897 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 1: so let's start here, because just a few days ago 898 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: you put up NFL Draft Confidential. People say he's not athletic, 899 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: Coaches discuss Mac Jones, rise, justin Field, Shade, sleepers galore. Basically, 900 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: you worked the phones and hit up coaches across the league, 901 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: maybe some personnel people as well, to get their anonymous 902 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: albeit comments on these players, to kind of get a 903 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: real inside feel. What do you think was your biggest 904 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: takeaway from the whole thing? What was the most startling 905 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: comment that maybe you recall from putting that piece together. 906 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: There's a few things that really jumped out. I mean, 907 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: people are going to want to talk the most about 908 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, you know, because there's five of them, and 909 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of them are going to go high in 910 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: the draft. So I thought there was some really interesting 911 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: things inside. I heard about, especially Zach Wilson, who is 912 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: likely to be the number two pick at that with 913 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, and how that fit is, how his style 914 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: is when I started working on this, I don't know 915 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: that there was a lot of There was some buzz 916 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: about mac Jones possibly being the third pick of the 917 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: draft to the forty nine ers. That was interesting to 918 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: me from this standpoint of even the quarterback coaches I 919 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 1: talked to from the NFL who like him, and look, 920 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: he was a guy who I think there were some 921 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: really quarterbacks who usually do well in interviews, he did 922 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: exceedingly well. People like his accuracy and they feel like 923 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: he's basically a very very high floor guy. And I 924 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: think when you take a quarterback in the first round, 925 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: odds are fifty percent there's probably one of these guys 926 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: is going to be a big bust. And that's the concern. 927 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: Now people look at and go, does he have the 928 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: physical tools of a top five, top ten pick, And 929 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: there is some hesitance there, but in terms of his accuracy, 930 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: in terms of how there wouldn't be as much of 931 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: a transition because of the system he ran under Steve 932 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: Sarkisian at Alabama. There's a lot. There's a lot to 933 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: like there. It's just the question is he does not 934 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: have anywhere close to elite arm talent or elite athleticism 935 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: and what I thought was interesting point somebody made, and 936 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,720 Speaker 1: having done a Bills game for Fox in Josh Allen's 937 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 1: rookie year, this one coach said, Look, if the team 938 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 1: is bleeping the bed, at least some of these guys, 939 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: including Trey Lance and Justin Field a little like like 940 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. They're big enough, and they're athletic enough where 941 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: they can move the chains at times and lean a 942 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: little bit on their mobility and their running ability. That 943 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 1: is not something you're gonna have with Mac Jones. And 944 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: that is a concern. That's also not something you know, 945 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's a good athlete. Zach Wilson's not, you know, 946 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: a big, big guy. You worry about how durable he's 947 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: going to be if he plays that way. Yeah, And 948 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: as these quarterbacks, it boils down to it, and you've 949 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: talked to all these coaches about it. How likely is 950 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: it that all five of these guys go in the 951 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: first round. Oh, I think it's very likely that they will. 952 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 1: The question is going to be will there be somebody 953 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: who lingers pass maybe seven or eight if that happens. 954 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, Trey Lance is interesting. He had one great 955 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: year at North Dakota State. People love his football intelligence, 956 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: they love his character. They think he has as strong 957 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: as arm as anybody in this draft. But he hasn't 958 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: played that much football. And also it wasn't like he 959 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 1: played in the SEC. He played in the FCS. I'll 960 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: be at a powerhouse program, and there is some a 961 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: little bit of concern about he has some inconsistent mechanics 962 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: and that showed up in the one game he did 963 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: play this year against Central Arkansas, he completed about fifty 964 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: percent of his pass as there were some throws that 965 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 1: the coaches I talked to said, you know, NFL quarterbacks 966 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: should not be missing those throws. If he has to 967 00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,040 Speaker 1: play right away, you worry about how much he's in 968 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: a struggle. But everybody loves his his intangibles, his work ethic, 969 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: all those things, and you know, you figure with his 970 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 1: physical tools, with his mental makeup, that gives them a 971 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: good chance. But again, it's kind of you could see 972 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 1: some guys once they get you know, do the Niners 973 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: take them. If not, then all of a sudden, you know, 974 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: who really needs a quarterback desperately? Because the vibe I've 975 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,919 Speaker 1: gotten is there's a lot of concern that next year's 976 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: quarterback class is not expected to be anywhere near as good. 977 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: We've got this thing. We're kind of obviously Buffalo Bill's 978 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 1: centric here and we've lived through the Josh Allen saga 979 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: over the last three years till he was, you know, 980 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: runner up in the MVP voting this year when he 981 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: came out and nobody knews it accurate? Is there a 982 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: little bit of the Josh Allen act effect when people 983 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: look at Trey Lance there is He's the one comparison 984 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: he's got a he's a tremendous arm. I mean, is 985 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: it quite as as freakish as Josh Allen? Probably not 986 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: quite to that degree. He's not quite as big, and 987 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: neither guy played high level competition. Like Look, one of 988 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: the concerns and why a lot of Josh Allen has 989 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: proven a lot of people wrong, especially on the college 990 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: football side, is because when he played against the good 991 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: teams he did play against, it wasn't like he put 992 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: up very good numbers. And so, you know, credit to 993 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: the NFL personnel people for seeing through some stuff that 994 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: maybe other people will get lost in in that. But again, 995 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: this is a guy that you know, people who have 996 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: been around him and met with him, really like him, 997 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: and I have a story coming out later this week 998 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: on on Lance for The Athletic about talking to the 999 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at North Dakota State and as good as 1000 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: physical tools he had. And this is also, by the way, 1001 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 1: a guy who ran for eleven hundred yards in the 1002 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: one season he played, so he can run and throw. 1003 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: But it's another thing about just the work ethic, the 1004 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: presence he has, the poise he has. Those those are 1005 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: the things that those guys talk about the most, and 1006 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: so that I think bows pretty well for him. Talking 1007 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: with Fox Sports college football analyst Bruce Feldman also does 1008 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: written pieces for The Athletic, and you asked one of 1009 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: these very questions that Steve and I have been debating 1010 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: here on the show with respect to Devanta Smith. You know, 1011 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: he's a hundred and seventy pounds, soaking wet, he looks 1012 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: rail thin, he's narrow framed, and as successful as he's 1013 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: been at the college level, good enough to win you know, 1014 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: college football's most coveted prize, the Heisman. There are legitimate 1015 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: concerns that this guy is going to get broken in 1016 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: half by the more physical cornerbacks of the NFL and 1017 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: get knocked straight out of bounds anytime the guy leaves 1018 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: his feet or tries to juke somebody out. What did 1019 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: you find from wide receiver coaches that you pulled on 1020 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: that they really like his toughness and they think he 1021 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: was a guy who will bite your face off and 1022 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: stick his nose in there. The Alabama coaches and everybody 1023 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: around that program is about his football intelligence, is toughness, 1024 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: all those things. Having said that, one of the NFL 1025 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: receiver coaches said, look, in our league, these monsters hit 1026 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: you from the side, and that's when you get ac issues, 1027 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: That's when you get collar bone issues. Look, Steve is 1028 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: better served to talk about that world because he lived 1029 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: in it, you know, certainly more than us. But I 1030 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 1: think that is an issue where it's not the people 1031 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: questioning his toughness. I think it's more questioning his durability 1032 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: and whether a guy like that will hold up. I mean, 1033 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: I heard the line I heard was, Hey, in the NFL, 1034 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: it is really big guys beat up little guys. And 1035 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: is this a guy who is going to end up 1036 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: being able to go for a full season and he 1037 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: or is he just going to get so banged up 1038 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: because it's just different. Yeah, the SEC's the big boy League, 1039 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: it's the big this and now he's going into the 1040 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: big Man League, so very different. Yeah, and I and 1041 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: they always and certainly he shows a lot of positive traits. Um, 1042 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, he is tough, he is, he isn't He's 1043 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: got a great attitude, but so does everybody else. I mean, 1044 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that does not set you apart 1045 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: at that level. So I'm I'm interested to see what 1046 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: other things he brings to the table that you can't 1047 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: see now. And I think that's a big question with him. 1048 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah. One thing that that I've heard a 1049 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 1: lot is he has elite hand eye coordination and ball skills. Um. 1050 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: I was around Jamar Chase a lot when I worked 1051 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: on this LSU book two years ago and saw him 1052 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: every day in practice, and there's a wow factor of him. 1053 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: And Jamar Chase looks like a running back. His lower 1054 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: body is thick, he is over his you know, two 1055 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: hundred two pounds or whatever. He's thirty five pounds bigger 1056 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: than Davante Smith. And he's also younger too, so you think, 1057 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's still probably room for him to grow 1058 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: and fill out. And I saw I saw Jamar Chase 1059 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: make so many competitive catches, and he was going up 1060 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: against every day in practice, Derek Stingley Junior, who people 1061 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: NFL people remember him, Darryl Stingley. This is his grandson. 1062 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Who he would be. He would be the most talented 1063 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: quarterback cornerback in this draft if he could come out. 1064 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: And so I saw those Stingy Stingley Chase battles, and 1065 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I saw him make all these competitive catches, and the 1066 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: coaches I talked to said, you know, he's got really 1067 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: good ball skills. They thought in terms of as a 1068 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: just catching the ball that DeVante Smith was on a 1069 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: different level than even that. And I was like, wow, 1070 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: that's saying something now Again, one guy is thirty thirty 1071 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: five pounds bigger. I mean, you can do a lot 1072 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: more with Jamar Chase. I think he from everything I've 1073 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: seen and heard, I think he is he is a 1074 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: much safer pick because of his physicality and his strength. 1075 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you hear about DeVante's toughness and his willingness 1076 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: and his football small You hear all those things about Chase, 1077 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: but you hear about his physicality, which is different. I mean, 1078 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: when people say he's a much faster an Kuon Bolden. 1079 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good starting point. And again 1080 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: I would use this being around that LSU team. Justin 1081 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Jefferson had a phenomenal rookie year last year for the Vikings. 1082 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: This guy is a much better receiver and a much 1083 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 1: he's more physical, and he's just a better receiver than 1084 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the guy who just lit up the NFL as a rookie. 1085 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: So wherever he goes, I think he's going to do 1086 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: really well. There are a lot of Bills fans, Bruce, 1087 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: that are hoping that some of the top end edge 1088 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: rush talent trickles down as far as pick thirty, and 1089 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: with all the offensive players going in the top ten, 1090 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: I suppose there's a possibility that could happen. There's other 1091 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: reasons that could happen too. Jalen Phillips, you know, has 1092 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: some medical concerns with the concussion history. As you know, 1093 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Jason Oway is a guy that has ridiculous measurables but 1094 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: no production. Is there a way based on the conversations 1095 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: that you've had with some of these defensive coaches that 1096 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: you've you know, queried that you know, maybe some of 1097 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: that defensive talent, especially at the edge maybe trickles down 1098 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: all the way to thirty. I would be stunned if 1099 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: Jayleen Phillips. Jayleen Phllips definitely has some some character caution issues. 1100 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: You'd mentioned the concussion issues. I mean, there was definitely 1101 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: a time when football he would he had openly talked 1102 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: about music was much He's you know, had produced some music. 1103 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: He was openly talking, you know, before he got to 1104 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: play at Miami that that was his thing more than football. 1105 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: He is a phenomenal athlete. And you know, I did 1106 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: a story for The Athletic not that long ago where 1107 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: I talked to a bunch of guys in the Miami 1108 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: program and they all could not stop raving about Jayleen Phillips, 1109 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: how hard he played last year. He to me he 1110 01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: is the most talented edge rusher in this draft, hands down. 1111 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: He's a wow athlete. He could probably get up to 1112 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: two hundred eighty pounds and still, I mean, the question 1113 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: with him, I think is is are you gonna get 1114 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: the jail and Phillips Miami got last year. If you do, 1115 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a guy who is going 1116 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: to be a fifteen sack guy and make a lot 1117 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: of plays. Though on the other side of it, Jason 1118 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Oway no sacks last year, ridiculous speed, still developing. I 1119 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: talked to an NFL defensive line coach who I know 1120 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: pretty well, and he said, you know, when you watch 1121 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: his film, go watch the Indiana game. He said, he 1122 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: had no sacks, but he hit the quarterback like ten times. 1123 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: He's very disruptive. He had he did have a bunch 1124 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: of sacks the year before. He is one of these 1125 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,919 Speaker 1: guys though that you know, you could see him being 1126 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: a guy who has a dozen sacks as a rookie 1127 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: and as a specialty guy, or you could see him 1128 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,959 Speaker 1: disappearing in three years. I mean, it's just you don't 1129 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: hear anything bad about Oway's character. He's just pretty raw. 1130 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: But how many guys in the NFL do you know 1131 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: who are in the front seven who run four three five, 1132 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: And he legitimately runs that fast and he's got length. 1133 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 1: He's six five, So really interesting player. I mean, you know, 1134 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at the video of him, I mean, he 1135 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 1: looks like a huge receiver, but he is physical. He's 1136 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 1: not soft. It's just, you know, it was a weird, 1137 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: weird year last year all around college football with COVID 1138 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: and at Penn State, they did not have Michael Parsons, 1139 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: who is their best player in the middle of the defense. 1140 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: And I think they were kind of spinning their wheels 1141 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: at times. But he is a he is a remarkable athlete, 1142 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and I could see somebody going, we cannot pass up 1143 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: on this guy. I mean, gross Matos, who I think 1144 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers took in the you know, thirty seventh or 1145 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: thirty eighth last year. The guys I talked to you 1146 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: said this kid has a way higher ceiling than him, 1147 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: and they think he's a much better player one of 1148 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: the other guys to come and out of this draft. 1149 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: It seems like, and when put in finger quotes, kind 1150 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: of a unicorn. I've been going back and forth with 1151 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: my partner here, Chris Brown, a lot about Kyle Pitts. 1152 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: To me, I've seen got I mean, I know, he's 1153 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: big as long, he's got speed, he's got all this stuff. 1154 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of years ago O. J. Howard 1155 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: came out, they said they were kind of saying the 1156 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: same thing about him. And now three years into his career, 1157 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 1: he can't get on the field for Tampa. What makes 1158 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts different than other tight end prospects we've seen. 1159 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: I think you're talking about a guy who's six six, 1160 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: who was running four or four eights. He didn't drop 1161 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: a ball this year. So he's got really really good 1162 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. He's really really competitive. One of the 1163 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: coaches I talked to said, Listen, he could have shut 1164 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: it down and still been a top ten pick last year. 1165 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: He didn't. And also it was like when they were 1166 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: down by twenty against Alabama, he didn't go on the tank. 1167 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: He battled to get that back in the game. Nobody 1168 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 1: could stop him. Last year, they knew where the ball 1169 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: was going. I think he's different. Like O. J. Howard 1170 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 1: had moments where he was the guy at Alabama. This 1171 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: guy always was the guy at Florida, and just you 1172 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: don't see guys like this very often in college football 1173 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: who played tight end. You see him. They become guys 1174 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: with this kind of length and this kind of athleticism 1175 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 1: end up usually as edge rushers. This guy's hands, though, 1176 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: are so much better than that that. Um. You know, 1177 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't know some of the guys I've talked to. 1178 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: You think this guy if you had to say, will 1179 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 1: there be a Hall of Famer in this draft class, 1180 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is the first name that comes out of 1181 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: people's minds. And while a linebacker may not necessarily be, 1182 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, near the top of the list for the Bills. 1183 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: There were some interesting comments on some of the more 1184 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: notable ones you know you in your piece on the Athletic, 1185 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: like Nick Bolton from Missoo. Just the fact that people 1186 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 1: love this kid like personality wise, he sounds like a 1187 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: juice player, you know, a guy that can get other 1188 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: people amped up, maybe even as a rookie. Um, And 1189 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: it seemed like there was a pretty strong consensus on that, right. Yeah. 1190 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: The people love his intangibles, love how how this guy's 1191 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: an alpha. He gets in the room, he will get 1192 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: people lined up. He's a good athlete. Now he may 1193 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: only play one position at linebacker. Um, I don't you know, 1194 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I you know, I know where the 1195 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Bills pick. My guess is he's a late late first 1196 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, early second round, depending on what kind of 1197 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: defense you run and what the need is there. People 1198 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: really like him. I mean, once you start getting Michael 1199 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Parsons in it to me as there's his own case. 1200 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Because he's such a unique athlete at two hundred and 1201 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: forty five pounds the Penn State linebacker. After that, then 1202 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: you have a space player and Ausa Caramoa from Notre 1203 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,479 Speaker 1: Dame who's an elite cover guy who's about two hundred 1204 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: and eighteen pounds. You get Nick Bolton, who's very different player. 1205 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: You get Jamon David who's long had a remarkable one 1206 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 1: season at Kentucky six four two thirty five runs four 1207 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: four flat. Different player than Nick Bolton. They're all very different. 1208 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: It's just I guess it's just what you need, what 1209 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: position you want in your defense. And then you have 1210 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 1: a guy like Zavin Collins who's even more different. He's 1211 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 1: six five to sixty from Tulsa, didn't play at the 1212 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: highest level, but at that size is really really good 1213 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: in coverage, and you're just like, Okay, is he the 1214 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: guy who, like the Vikings see as another Anthony bar 1215 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, I've had people think 1216 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's as good as that, But 1217 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: there's just really once you get into the linebacker group 1218 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: after Parsons, I feel like you get like four or 1219 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: five guys who are very unique and very different from 1220 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: each other. In your mock draft, you had the Bills 1221 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 1: selecting the Clemson running back Travis Etn. We've been going 1222 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 1: back and forth, around and around with what you can 1223 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,600 Speaker 1: get in the type of player and what kind of 1224 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,799 Speaker 1: contribution you can get from a player at the thirtieth 1225 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 1: pick of the draft. The Bills have a very fully 1226 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: formed roster. You can make an argument that it would 1227 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: be a luxury to take a running back that in 1228 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the first round of the draft, but you can also 1229 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 1: make the point that the Bills have that luxury to 1230 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: give with the roster the way it is. What's your 1231 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: thought on your reasoning behind taking a running back at thirty, 1232 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: Like you said, there's only certain spots, and I don't 1233 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna want to pull the trigger on 1234 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, running backs are not what they were ten 1235 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 1: years ago in terms of the draft value. But this 1236 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 1: is such an explosive player. And also he is good 1237 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 1: as a receiver, and I think that would give Josh 1238 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 1: Allen just another weapon. And he is a home run hitter, 1239 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 1: and I think if you are so focused in the 1240 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,560 Speaker 1: past game or so focused in on that, and this 1241 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: guy is kind of a change of pace weapon. He's physical. 1242 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he runs through guys, he runs harder than 1243 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,719 Speaker 1: you know he's two fifteen. Sometimes people say he's really 1244 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,719 Speaker 1: really gets downhill and we'll get one. Well in a hurry. 1245 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: I just think he's a really interesting player for them 1246 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: if you go in that direction, because I don't think 1247 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that, like the edge guys were talking about, 1248 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Jail and Phillips to me, will not be there. And 1249 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: then I'm I'm skeptical that there's somebody there that matches 1250 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: up with what they think should be a first round player. 1251 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Bruce last one for me. And I'm sure you've already 1252 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 1: heard this based on the people in the circles you're 1253 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 1: traveling with, who you talk to. But with the draft 1254 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: pool being noticeably smaller this year from a pure size perspective, 1255 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 1: there's already this theory out there that a lot of 1256 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: gms are going to be parting with picks and asking 1257 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: for future draft capital in twenty twenty two when the 1258 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: class is much larger because of all the kids that 1259 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: chose to go back to school, the NCAA giving a 1260 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,560 Speaker 1: lot of players the extra year of eligibility, etc. To 1261 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: what level do you think that reaches in this year's draft, 1262 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 1: with NFL gms maybe saying you know what, you can 1263 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: have my fifth and six rounders. Give me, you know, 1264 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 1: give me a six next year, and I'm happy with that. Yeah, 1265 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: I could see that happening because because just in the numbers, 1266 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I think the risk you run with that is there 1267 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: are like if Jamar Chase was in the draft last year, 1268 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: he'd have been the first receiver taken. You have a 1269 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: bunch of quarterbacks, Like there will not be a Trevor 1270 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: Lawrence in this draft. Next year, there may be a 1271 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Sam Howell who's a good player, but he's not you know, 1272 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: he may be a better version of Baker Mayfield. Maybe 1273 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 1: I know Baker was the first pick in the draft too, 1274 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 1: But I think there are the top ten. To me, 1275 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: there are some guys who have special talents. There will 1276 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be a Kyle Pitts in the draft. 1277 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: But once you start getting into the depth of it, um, 1278 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,719 Speaker 1: there's this is not a good draft for the d line. 1279 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,759 Speaker 1: It's not there's there's really no defensive tackles. Christian Barmore's 1280 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: is a solid player, but I think that's where you 1281 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: get in the risk. You know, it's the defensive side 1282 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 1: of the ball. There's some good corners. I think there'll 1283 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,799 Speaker 1: be a better one next year. The safeties aren't okay 1284 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: to me. It's like the defensive side of the ball 1285 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 1: is where I think it's different next year, and that's 1286 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: what you wonder about. But you know, I also think 1287 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 1: there's probably something to Hey, we will have a better 1288 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: read on the personnel next year because scouting, hopefully, like 1289 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: everything else, will hopefully be back to some version of normal. 1290 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: If if the Bills decide to go on the defensive 1291 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: side of the ball with their thirtieth pick instead of 1292 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: taking an offensive player, and they go, say, cornerback, We've 1293 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,560 Speaker 1: got a list of like ten corners that we've you know, 1294 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: particularly the top five. Would one of those top five guys, 1295 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,759 Speaker 1: particularly a guy like Farley who's had the back surgery 1296 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: kind of thing. How far can you see realistically maybe 1297 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 1: one of those top five guys like Asante, Samuel or 1298 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 1: somebody fall into the number thirty. Is that a possibility? 1299 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 1: And if not, what kind of corner could they get something? 1300 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 1: All falling there? I think that's right in the kind 1301 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: of line. Kelvin Joseph has some character issues from his 1302 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: time at LSU, some off field stuff. He's really talented 1303 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't see somebody jumping up rolling the dice on 1304 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: him as a first round even late Elijah Molden. You 1305 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: know everybody likes him, I don't know if everybody like 1306 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,639 Speaker 1: like him characterized playmaker, like he checks a lot of boxes. 1307 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: I just don't know if people look at him as 1308 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 1: a late first rounder. Um, you know, a Sante Samuel, Yes, Newsom. 1309 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't think Newsom will still be there. He's a 1310 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: really good corner who had a really good pro day, 1311 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: and he's very smart player. Um, you know, I'd be 1312 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: surprised if he lasted. That'd be a heck of a 1313 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: value if he did. There's no way j If jac 1314 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Horne lasted to the fifteenth pick, something something weird happened 1315 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to me. He's probably the best corner of this group. 1316 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't see him getting anywhere near that. So Caleb 1317 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,600 Speaker 1: Farley to go that that far down, I don't, you know. 1318 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: I know there's medical concern. I know people don't love that. 1319 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have great film in terms of 1320 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 1: tackling and physicality, but he's free, Kishley fast, and he's long. 1321 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, I could see wherever Caleb Farley gets drafted, 1322 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if like you're watching some playoff 1323 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,719 Speaker 1: game two years from now and a really good receiver 1324 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: gets shut down and everybody's talking about where did this 1325 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley come from? You know, he has that kind 1326 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: of coverage skills and closing speed. But you know, when 1327 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: you start getting into the medical history or medical concerns, 1328 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: that's when guys do start to kind of topple a 1329 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit. If I had to guess, I would say 1330 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: Asante Samuel is probably the most likely to be there 1331 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: for them. I just don't think Farley falls that far 1332 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: given his physical skill set of a length and speed. 1333 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: But you know, you never know. We see some weird 1334 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: stuff happen in the draft from year to year. Check 1335 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 1: it out on the athletic dot Com NFL Draft Confidential. 1336 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 1: People say he's not athletic, coaches discuss Mac Jones, rise, 1337 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 1: justin Field, shade, sleepers galore. It's Bruce Feldman's and you'll 1338 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: want to check it out. It's Bruce Fellman from Fox Sports. 1339 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Thanks very much for giving us some time, Bruce, enjoy 1340 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: the draft. Thanks Bruce, what's a pleasure. Guys, Thanks for 1341 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: having me all right, Bruce Feldman College Football analyst for 1342 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports also does some writing for The Athletic. Really 1343 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 1: interesting piece because he called basically every contact he had 1344 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL on coaching staffs around the league and 1345 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: ask them anonymously to give them their thoughts, you know, 1346 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,560 Speaker 1: on some of these prospects in the draft, and some 1347 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 1: of the comments are pretty eye opening, right this one 1348 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: offensive line coach that really liked offensive tackle. I bleeping 1349 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 1: love this guy, Like, Yeah, it's pretty funny how revealing 1350 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 1: they are when they know they're not being quoted by name. 1351 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 1: The fun part for me is what some of the 1352 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,560 Speaker 1: guys see and some of the nuances they look for 1353 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,800 Speaker 1: when they're evaluating players. Fans don't ever look at they 1354 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 1: look at numbers, they look at they watch a highlight 1355 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,560 Speaker 1: or two. And that said, this guy watches how the 1356 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: guy acts away from the ball. They watch how he 1357 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 1: For instance, you see you go down and you can 1358 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 1: on YouTube. You can go down any of these names 1359 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: we talk about in this draft, you can go down 1360 01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 1: on YouTube and get their highlights. And for me, one 1361 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,799 Speaker 1: of the things I do you look at the highlights 1362 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: and is that highlight for him or is it for 1363 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,120 Speaker 1: the other guys? So, for instance, you got him. Hey, 1364 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 1: he's a fumble recovery. He got it. Well, some other 1365 01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 1: guy made this phenomenal play kick the ball out and 1366 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 1: he happened to be standing there and fell on it, 1367 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 1: and it's on his highlight reel. So tell if that's 1368 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: your highlight, I'm drafting the guy that forced the fumble, right. 1369 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: So some of that goes on as well, But it's 1370 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 1: really insightful to see how the NFL evaluators what they 1371 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 1: see and what they look for, and the stuff they 1372 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 1: say about mac Jones. It's all positive until they get 1373 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 1: to his physical traits. That kind of stuff goes on, 1374 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: and then they got other guys on the other end 1375 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 1: of it, like Jason Oway. It's all about his physical 1376 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 1: traits and nothing else. So you got somewhere in the 1377 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: middle there's a really good football player, and you got 1378 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: to find the ones that that fit your team and 1379 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 1: your scheme and your needs and your and your philosophy. 1380 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: That's it's great. It's it's a lot of fun and 1381 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Feldman goes deep into his stuff. We have to take 1382 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 1: a break here, but our thanks to Bruce Felman on that. 1383 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,679 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll let you know which team 1384 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,639 Speaker 1: with two first round picks is definitely targeting a receiver, 1385 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 1: and it's not the Dolphins that we're talking about. We'll 1386 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,639 Speaker 1: tell you which team that is when we return here 1387 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo 1388 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back. Second half of the show underway 1389 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: here on a Monday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you 1390 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, and we're talking about the possibility 1391 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 1: of no defensive players being taken in the top ten 1392 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 1: of this year's draft. I personally, I think Dallas is 1393 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: going to wreck the party and probably take a corner 1394 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: there at ten, especially if the first one on the 1395 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 1: board still left, they'll take. There is a chance that 1396 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,600 Speaker 1: nine out of the first ten players are on the 1397 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. We're just going to push 1398 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: a lot of defensive talent down the board. So we're 1399 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,679 Speaker 1: asking you on the tweet sheet today, if all ten 1400 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,719 Speaker 1: of the first picks in round one, all ten picks 1401 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 1: at the top of the round go offense. Does that 1402 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 1: change your thoughts on what the Bill should do at 1403 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 1: pick thirty. We'll get to the tweet sheet in a second, 1404 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,599 Speaker 1: but there is this news. ESPN's Todd McShay is reporting 1405 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: that a team with two first round picks is definitely 1406 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: going to be targeting a receiver with one of those 1407 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: two selections. It is not Miami, who is widely considered 1408 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 1: to be a prime candidate to take the top receiver 1409 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: in the class at pick number six. They're talking. He's 1410 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 1: talking about a different team. It's the team that just 1411 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,719 Speaker 1: acquired a second first round pick right before the weekend 1412 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 1: last week. The Baltimore Ravens, who traded offensive tackle Orlando 1413 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,560 Speaker 1: Brown to Kansas City, now own the twenty seventh and 1414 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,839 Speaker 1: thirty first overall selections, and ESPN's Todd McShay is reporting 1415 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:05,560 Speaker 1: that wide receiver will likely be one of those two selections. 1416 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 1: The other is expected to address edge rusher offensive tackle. 1417 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: So you know, you're probably looking at at least one 1418 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: of their two selections going receiver there, which which makes sense. 1419 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar Jackson needs some more reliable targets. They 1420 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: went Hollywood Brown a couple of years ago, and going 1421 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: back to your point about diminutive receivers, he has not 1422 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: made well. John Brown and Hollywood Brown and that guy's 1423 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 1: getting out of there. And they really struggled to sign 1424 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 1: free agent receivers because nobody wants to go and block 1425 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: down field all day for the run game. They want God, 1426 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 1: they want to go to a team that they want 1427 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 1: to come to. A team like Buffalo throws at sixty 1428 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: percent of the time and got a quarterback with a 1429 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,120 Speaker 1: big arm and goes deep and they're they're throwing on 1430 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 1: first down more than you know that kind of offense. 1431 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: So they got a draft one to get one. They 1432 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: got a draft one to get one, a good one, 1433 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 1: because no free agent wide out is even thinking about 1434 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: going to Baltimore and getting chewed up by a run game. 1435 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 1: So they'll just they trade it up. They traded Orlando Brown, 1436 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,560 Speaker 1: traded in and they'll draft one. So let's get to 1437 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, which is brought to you by Corrigan 1438 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo 1439 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 1: Bills and leading us off today. If the top ten 1440 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,560 Speaker 1: is all offensive players, is that change your thoughts on 1441 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: what the Bill should do with thirty? Rusty says, take 1442 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 1: the best player available. An offensive top heavy round one 1443 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: should push an excellent corner or defensive end down the 1444 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 1: board to hopefully thirty. That bodes well for the Bills. 1445 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,559 Speaker 1: Addressing some perceived needs on defense. But should best player 1446 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: available still be a wide receiver or an offensive lineman, 1447 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 1: So be it have the guts to stand at thirty 1448 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,439 Speaker 1: and pick them. That's the interesting part of this whole 1449 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 1: scenario for me. Right now, do they stand right at 1450 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: thirty and get the guy and who's gonna be there? 1451 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 1: It's because you're gonna get to like pick twenty five, 1452 01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: and they'll be three guys there and then one gone 1453 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: at twenty six, twenty seven. Okay, we still got to 1454 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 1: twenty eight. Another one's gone, So now you got twenty 1455 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,559 Speaker 1: nine to wait. You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, 1456 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and it'll be painful, right, you gotta be ready to 1457 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 1: hold your water and do it. And plus I have 1458 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 1: no idea, we have no idea as to whether okay, 1459 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,560 Speaker 1: if this is happening above them, they've had conversations with 1460 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 1: the people at thirty three, thirty four at the top 1461 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,280 Speaker 1: of the second round saying, hey, if if A B 1462 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 1: or C happens, we're interested in the thirty pick. And 1463 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, we're all watching this. We're gonna 1464 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: be watching this thing on TV, and you're gonna be 1465 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: streaming live. We're all gonna be doing this and you're 1466 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna say, okay, if they're gonna pick the guy, why'd 1467 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 1: you wait? Why you wait till the end of the 1468 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 1: clock and we got fifteen minutes. I want to see 1469 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 1: what the bills are picking. And when I'm sitting here 1470 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: at twenty eight waiting for you fifteen minutes, do you 1471 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: see can pick your guy? Well, the reason is those 1472 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: teams are sitting tight waiting for the phone to ring 1473 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 1: or making phone calls to see if they can trade 1474 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 1: the pick if they really want to. They use all 1475 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 1: fifteen to their minutes in the first round making sure 1476 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 1: they get the most value for that pick, if it's 1477 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,680 Speaker 1: trading down, finding out who's going to give them the 1478 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 1: best price and how far down it is, and if 1479 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 1: it's not, they got a call with kid himselves that 1480 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,000 Speaker 1: you didn't fall off a truck today, did you? You're right? 1481 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean you're still got all your limp, your fingers 1482 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 1: and toes, right, that kind of conversation. So they'll use 1483 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: all of their fifteen minutes all through the first round 1484 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 1: just in case when you get to thirty, like where 1485 01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,600 Speaker 1: the bills are at, there might be three teams that 1486 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: are on the horn wanting to trade into that pick 1487 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,600 Speaker 1: to get out of the second round get into the 1488 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 1: first round because the guy they want they want a 1489 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 1: five year deal four instead of a four year deal, 1490 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 1: which is what happens for a first rounder. Yeah, and 1491 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 1: if you look at the top ten, you can very 1492 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,559 Speaker 1: easily get to ten offensive players. I think the one place, 1493 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 1: as we said, where it's probably gonna go defense is Dallas. 1494 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,560 Speaker 1: They need a ton of help on that side of 1495 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the ball. And if the top corner is still on 1496 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: the board, he's gone Detroit. I suppose could take another 1497 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,560 Speaker 1: corner as well after drafting Jeff o'kouda last year, but 1498 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: they could very easily go offensive line as well. So 1499 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: let's just hypothetically say nine out of the first ten 1500 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,640 Speaker 1: picks go offense and Dallas starts defense. Then you have 1501 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 1: the Giants at eleven. Okay, they need defensive help, so 1502 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 1: they're probably going defense, whether it's at linebacker or in 1503 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:33,040 Speaker 1: the secondary. Philadelphia needs all kinds of defensive help. Chargers. 1504 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: You can make a case for offensive tackle, but you 1505 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 1: could also make a case for corner. Right fourteen is Minnesota. 1506 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,800 Speaker 1: They need defensive help. Now they need some old line 1507 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 1: help too, So which way does that go? New England. 1508 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 1: Are they staying at fifteen? Are they moving up? Did 1509 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 1: they get the quarterback? If not, what are they getting? 1510 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 1: Are they looking for a receiver? Do they want a 1511 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 1: corner knowing Stefan Gilmour and J. C. Jackson are both 1512 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 1: in the last year or their contracts, or do they 1513 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 1: go tack because each of their starting tackles are in 1514 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 1: the last year of their contracts. That could go either 1515 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,160 Speaker 1: way Arizona Los Patrick Peterson. They need a corner if 1516 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 1: you're if you're Buffalo, you're hoping five quarterbacks go in 1517 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,840 Speaker 1: the top ten because that and hopefully New England can't 1518 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,679 Speaker 1: get into the top ten to get one of them. Yeah, 1519 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: but my point is, even if you have nine offensive 1520 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 1: players go off the board with the first nine picks, 1521 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 1: you're still waiting so damn long to get down to thirty. 1522 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: This is gonna be You got an exercise in patience. 1523 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 1: The likes that we haven't seen you gotta get through 1524 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: lost you were playing right. So you get to New 1525 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 1: England at fifteen, and we've talked about them at length. 1526 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: They may they want a quarterback, but are they They're 1527 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to trade up to get one. If if 1528 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 1: all this stuff can Arizona. They're not taking a quarterback, 1529 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 1: but they could take a defender, no question about it. 1530 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 1: Or they may take somebody to replace Larry Fitzgerald if 1531 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,679 Speaker 1: he's going to retire. Vegas is taking an offensive athlete 1532 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: in my opinion, offensive athlete, yes, an offensive athlete, Miami 1533 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,760 Speaker 1: playmaker right, Well, if they don't get the playmaker up 1534 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 1: at six, they'll look for one at eighteen. Either do 1535 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 1: get the playmaker at six, they're probably going tackle down there. Right, 1536 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be an offensive player, either a playmaker, 1537 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,639 Speaker 1: a wide receiver or there. Or if like Pitts falls 1538 01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,720 Speaker 1: to six, which he ain't going to, they'll take an 1539 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,640 Speaker 1: offensive tackle there. So it's one of the two. Washington 1540 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 1: lots of help there, so you need an offensive line help, 1541 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 1: but they also need linebacker, corner and safety help. So 1542 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:39,479 Speaker 1: they could go defense, right Washington, Chicago, Indianapolis could go corner. 1543 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee could go corner. You know you're you're going you know, 1544 01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 1: now you're into the low twenties and you know you're 1545 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 1: getting into the stuff where starting to get Gray's available. 1546 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 1: And I think what I was trying to indicate here 1547 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 1: is just as quickly as you could see nine of 1548 01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: the first ten go offense. The whole thing could lip defense, 1549 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: and then you're right back where you're started, and you're like, 1550 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,640 Speaker 1: son of a pop, what's gonna go out? Particularly with 1551 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 1: the corners available and the edge rushers. Um the thing 1552 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 1: that saves it though. There's the five, there's the five 1553 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:21,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the top, and then there's a there's some 1554 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,720 Speaker 1: wide receivers that are up there a couple, but see 1555 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 1: it's quarterbacks. They're taking a chunk out of the top ten. 1556 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 1: Then it's wide receivers, and it's some offensive linemen, and 1557 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 1: it's the offensive lineman wide receivers that kind of populate 1558 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,000 Speaker 1: this draft all the way throughout that are gonna string 1559 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: it out. Defensively, I think the problem is there's no 1560 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: defensive tackles that are out there that are worth taken. 1561 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 1: There's one first rounder maybe and he's late first rounder. 1562 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 1: That's the kid from Alabama, Barmore. So there's While there's 1563 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 1: a ton of offensive players that are available and big 1564 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 1: number of guys who could go in the top half 1565 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 1: of the first or the top two thirds of the first, 1566 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 1: there's nothing to offset it. Yeah, you can't just like 1567 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 1: wait for an edge rusher to get down there because 1568 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 1: at thirty, I mean they take three of them. Now 1569 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 1: you're what are you gonna get? Yeah, you're the fourth one. Well, 1570 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 1: they're thinking that as many as five could go in 1571 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 1: round one, So rat five what edge edge? Right? Five 1572 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 1: edge guys, maybe six, depending how desperates and people get 1573 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,760 Speaker 1: and depending on what they put the value at with 1574 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 1: all of those players, there's five corners, yeah, at four, 1575 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 1: at least maybe six. If you know, somebody likes somebody 1576 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 1: that maybe nobody else does. You know, it's it's crazy 1577 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,519 Speaker 1: though there's a couple in the offensive line. It's deep, right, 1578 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some guys strung out across the first 1579 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: and second. It's deep throughout the draft, right, it's not 1580 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 1: necessarily deep in round one. And that's the rub here 1581 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 1: because the Bills are picking at the bottom of round 1582 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,680 Speaker 1: one and that's sixty one. They draft right sixty one 1583 01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 1: and round two. Yeah, and thirty in round one. So 1584 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 1: it's the price of doing business when you make it 1585 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 1: to the AFC title game. So sitting and waiting and 1586 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,599 Speaker 1: holding your water is going to be harder than ever 1587 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: for Brandon Bean and company because this is the longest 1588 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,599 Speaker 1: way that they have ever had outside of last year 1589 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,679 Speaker 1: when they didn't have a first round pick. So yeah, 1590 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: they won't be kicking back and relaxing on Night one. 1591 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: They'll just be wringing their hands over who's going to 1592 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,439 Speaker 1: be left on the board, and that'll be probably the 1593 01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,760 Speaker 1: hardest thing for them. Who's left. We have to take 1594 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,599 Speaker 1: a break when we come back, more of your comments 1595 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, and we also have coming up 1596 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:39,720 Speaker 1: at two o'clock former Buffalo Bills defensive tackle Kyle Williams, 1597 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 1: who will be the first to tell you he was 1598 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft on Day three, first 1599 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,320 Speaker 1: pick in round five back in two thousand and five. 1600 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,600 Speaker 1: I think it was. So we'll take a break, but 1601 01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams about fifteen minutes away. More of your comments 1602 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Next here on one Bills Live. 1603 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 1: If the top ten is all offensive players and Thursday's drafts, 1604 01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 1: that change your thoughts on what the Bill should do. 1605 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 1: At thirty back to the tweet sheet we go where 1606 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,280 Speaker 1: Nick says, if only offensive players go on the top ten, 1607 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: then some of the elite cornerback talent might come within range. 1608 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,720 Speaker 1: If JC Horn or Patrick Sutan are still there in 1609 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the first we should make serious inquiries 1610 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 1: about trading up to grab one of them. That's a 1611 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 1: big jump. You can get into the mid twenties, not 1612 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 1: twenty five. You can't get to sixteen. You can't get 1613 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 1: to thirteen. Between thirteen and eighteen, you can't get there. 1614 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 1: It's too expensive. And as we said, the one thing 1615 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,720 Speaker 1: you do not want to part with right now is 1616 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft capital because it is going to 1617 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,559 Speaker 1: be very valuable this time next year, because the draft 1618 01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 1: pool is going to be significantly larger do to the 1619 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 1: fact that so many players which were granted an extra 1620 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,919 Speaker 1: year of eligibility by the NCAA due to the pandemic 1621 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: and wanting to get a good year of college tape 1622 01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 1: on film. After either opting out or not being allowed 1623 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,120 Speaker 1: to play, a lot of kids went back to school. 1624 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 1: The draft pool this year is only a little over 1625 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,719 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty players. It's typically somewhere between eighteen 1626 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:28,080 Speaker 1: and nineteen hundred players. So the pool is vastly, vastly different, 1627 01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,160 Speaker 1: much smaller than it typically is, and it's more mysterious. 1628 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 1: And that too with missing medical opt out players who 1629 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 1: haven't been on a field in eighteen months. You don't 1630 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,599 Speaker 1: know what you're getting. And so the general feeling from 1631 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the know about personnel departments 1632 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,599 Speaker 1: and NFL clubs is that some of these teams, come 1633 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 1: Day three, they're gonna look at the board and be like, 1634 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't even know half these guys and what they 1635 01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,920 Speaker 1: could be for us. They're gonna pull the rip chord 1636 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: and jettison maybe a fifth and a sixth for a 1637 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,840 Speaker 1: fifth and a sixth next year, or maybe even a 1638 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,400 Speaker 1: sixth and a seventh next year, which may prove to 1639 01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 1: be more valuable than a five and a six this year. Right, 1640 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot going into this, and I think that, 1641 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,360 Speaker 1: But to say this like Nick did that you're gonna 1642 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 1: jump up into the middle of the first You're just 1643 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Yeah, it's too much gonna it's 1644 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: too big a jump. It's too big a jump, it's 1645 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,639 Speaker 1: too expensive. It would cost you more than the rest 1646 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,400 Speaker 1: of your entire draft. And you'd have to give up 1647 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,519 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two picks to make a hit all of these, 1648 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 1: and all of your picks this year, you know, all 1649 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,360 Speaker 1: your picks. This should be like Mike get Ditko, you'd 1650 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,559 Speaker 1: be lightening up a cigar. After you pick the first 1651 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 1: round guy and you're hitting the golf course for the 1652 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,280 Speaker 1: rest of the weekend. You get one. You get one 1653 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 1: guy in the entire draft, just about. You might get 1654 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 1: a second in this draft, but not a second round. 1655 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 1: The Rebel Gentleman tweets as much as I'd like the 1656 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Bills to pick an edge rusher, if they pick a 1657 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 1: running back, that'll make my day. Maybe they'll trade up 1658 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:59,720 Speaker 1: or down. Who knows? Suspense? Suspense? Yeah, they still love 1659 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 1: the running back, Steve, they love it. I'm sure we 1660 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,240 Speaker 1: re rack the warre and Sharp interview from last week. 1661 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,519 Speaker 1: Remember his comments on the running back right, I would 1662 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,479 Speaker 1: your running game will improve more if you take a 1663 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,519 Speaker 1: big offensive lineman. That's that's all there is to it. 1664 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 1: You running backs need space to run, and until you 1665 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,840 Speaker 1: get dominant up front, you're not gonna run the ball. Well, 1666 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:24,719 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't care if you have Elmer Fudd 1667 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 1: at running back, Elmer Fudd, how about that one? Wow. 1668 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 1: You you can't run the ball without a great offensive 1669 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:36,519 Speaker 1: line or a great run blocking offensive line, Jesus can't. 1670 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care if you got Jim Brown 1671 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,360 Speaker 1: or Barry Sanders or anybody else. You can't run the 1672 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: ball without a great offensive line. So if you want 1673 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,040 Speaker 1: that to improve, like the Bills have done, you sign 1674 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,439 Speaker 1: more guys of the offensive line. You resign guys you 1675 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:57,240 Speaker 1: know that can play. And having said that, I don't 1676 01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,080 Speaker 1: want them to run the ball more. You can run 1677 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,439 Speaker 1: a better fine, but they I don't want them to 1678 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:02,960 Speaker 1: run the ball more. I want them to throw the 1679 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,960 Speaker 1: ball because that's what they're really good at already. That's 1680 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,240 Speaker 1: what teams are struggling to catch up. You think Miami 1681 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,679 Speaker 1: Dolphins are down there thinking, wow, we gotta answer because 1682 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,559 Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna get better and they're running. They're 1683 01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to catch up with the They can't catch up 1684 01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Yeah, John, the Miami Dolphin fans are 1685 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,080 Speaker 1: laying awake at night, going, we have no shot against 1686 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The number one running back in Buffalo they're 1687 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 1: worried about is Josh Allen. It's true. So I get it, 1688 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 1: asked running backs running that ain't gonna solve your running 1689 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 1: game isn't gonna solve anything for this team in my opinion, 1690 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,880 Speaker 1: And think about this, the Steelers have been mocked a 1691 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 1: running back an awful lot in this year's draft two, 1692 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,800 Speaker 1: I picked twenty four. How much you want to bet 1693 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,720 Speaker 1: they take an offensive lineman at twenty four. Yeah, they 1694 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 1: really need to take an offensive line. They will. They 1695 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 1: got decimate. There's no way to take gone Pounce. He's 1696 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 1: gone to Castro gone and Villaneuvea is gone that now. 1697 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,920 Speaker 1: They struggled last year and that's why they're gone. They 1698 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,519 Speaker 1: were the most dominant offensive line in the league with 1699 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Leveon Bell West. When Leveon Bell made his money to 1700 01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,080 Speaker 1: those guys up front, and that was proven when he 1701 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 1: went to a place that's that didn't have an offensive 1702 01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,720 Speaker 1: that's proof of it was a case in point. That's 1703 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,800 Speaker 1: the proof that I'm talking about Leveon Bell. Yeah, he 1704 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:26,759 Speaker 1: can't now if at n or Naji Harris or anybody 1705 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 1: else is the best player on your board. Okay, cat good, fine, fine, 1706 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 1: I get it. But if he's not, Yeah, break time 1707 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 1: for us when we return it is the number one 1708 01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,679 Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and six draft. On day three, 1709 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams joins us when we return here on one 1710 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by a Collid to Health. This is 1711 01:34:51,400 --> 01:35:10,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. At a Steve Tester who has been 1712 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind 1713 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,160 Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you. Stave of a lily, 1714 01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:22,440 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratedere of normalcy. 1715 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to our number three of a Monday edition of 1716 01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 1: One Bills Live, where we are pleased to be joined 1717 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 1: now by the number one pick in the two thousand 1718 01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:38,080 Speaker 1: and six NFL Draft on Day three. It is a 1719 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 1: former fifth round selection of the Buffalo Bills, Kyle Williams, 1720 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: who was named recently by The Ringer to be among 1721 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,280 Speaker 1: the most valuable draft picks of the century. So before 1722 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,880 Speaker 1: your head gets too big, Kyle, we do want to 1723 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,920 Speaker 1: remind you the century is only twenty plus years old 1724 01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,120 Speaker 1: at this point in time, but still in all a 1725 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 1: worthwhile mentioned there. You will not be happy, though, however, 1726 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:08,240 Speaker 1: to know that ranked right ahead of you is your 1727 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,680 Speaker 1: good friend Andrew Whitworth, one spot ahead of you. You 1728 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,599 Speaker 1: were twenty third, he was twenty second. I think that's fair. 1729 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's one hundred years old and he's still playing. 1730 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 1: He's wife up to them. You are right about that. Now. 1731 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 1: This draft, it rolls around every year and every you know, 1732 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 1: when you're playing it's a whole different kind of at animal. 1733 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 1: Now that you're out of it, what if you could 1734 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,559 Speaker 1: talk to some of these guys that are coming out. 1735 01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,760 Speaker 1: You've been through it, you watched class after class come 1736 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 1: out with you and after you. What's your advice to 1737 01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 1: young players getting ready for this and how they handle 1738 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 1: this whole scenario and what it means going forward for him? Really, 1739 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,559 Speaker 1: just about your draft status is only where you begin 1740 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,400 Speaker 1: in this league. It's it's not the end all be all. 1741 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,240 Speaker 1: Your story is not told the night that your name 1742 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 1: gets called or doesn't get called. You know, as Chris 1743 01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 1: so eloquently put, you know, the third day, you know, 1744 01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 1: I can't. I think I kind of prefer the fifth 1745 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,720 Speaker 1: round talk you other than the third day. But you know, 1746 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 1: just letting those guys know that, like your only expectations 1747 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,640 Speaker 1: should be to compete. You have first round guys that 1748 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,400 Speaker 1: are in and out of the league fast. You have 1749 01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,240 Speaker 1: guys that are drafted late and play forever. So it's 1750 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,639 Speaker 1: just a beginning. It's just a jumping off point. So Kyle, 1751 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're you're still kind of keeping your ear 1752 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,240 Speaker 1: to the ground and your eyes on the film. With 1753 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 1: respect to the Bills, especially on the defensive side of 1754 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 1: the ball. They were without Star last year. As you know, 1755 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,120 Speaker 1: he chose to opt out in what was a very 1756 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 1: strange NFL season, even though they got it all in 1757 01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,200 Speaker 1: from start to finish with a couple of hiccups along 1758 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:51,760 Speaker 1: the way. With Star coming back, how much of a 1759 01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 1: difference do you think that makes for this team, particularly 1760 01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:00,080 Speaker 1: on the interior. It makes a huge difference for what 1761 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,599 Speaker 1: he can do on the field wise in the middle 1762 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 1: of that defense, what he can occupy the lands that 1763 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,720 Speaker 1: he can shut off, either by you know, squeezing the 1764 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:12,439 Speaker 1: gap on a one on one block or taking on 1765 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 1: double teams and allowing guys to move around freely. But 1766 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:17,880 Speaker 1: one of the things is is the kind of guy 1767 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 1: that he is in like a meeting room, in the 1768 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 1: defensive room, as far as a leader and really in 1769 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,720 Speaker 1: an example, I mean, Star goes and gets after it 1770 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,920 Speaker 1: every day at practice, moves around, great guy to be around, 1771 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 1: and really good at holding guy's accountable. So that's really 1772 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 1: a kind of a two headed coin with him. He 1773 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,439 Speaker 1: does a lot for that football team that may or 1774 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 1: may not show up like in the stat sheet. One 1775 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,040 Speaker 1: of the things that happened this offseason and It seems 1776 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,960 Speaker 1: a long time ago for us. We talk about these 1777 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,400 Speaker 1: guys every day. But Brandon Bean managed to resign Matt Milano, 1778 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 1: we didn't think that would be possible. He resigned Matt 1779 01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,719 Speaker 1: John Feliciano, we didn't think that would happen. And Darryl Williams, 1780 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,880 Speaker 1: who had put together a one year deal last year 1781 01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 1: and really played extremely well at right tackle, they resigned him. 1782 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 1: All these unexpected guys coming back to Buffalo, and all 1783 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,800 Speaker 1: of them referred to the culture that has that made them, 1784 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, thrive in in this environment. They all alluded 1785 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,639 Speaker 1: to that culture as being a reason why they did resign. 1786 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,400 Speaker 1: But having those guys back on the team, what does 1787 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,160 Speaker 1: it mean to the overall group when guys come back 1788 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,160 Speaker 1: into the room and they said, man, they I thought 1789 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 1: I'd said goodbye to Matt Malana for the last time. 1790 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,760 Speaker 1: I thought I was never gonna see Feliciano again, and 1791 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:29,720 Speaker 1: here they are showing up. What's that due to the 1792 01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 1: room when training camp kicks off. I think it lets 1793 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,719 Speaker 1: the entire football team know that their own a singular 1794 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 1: mission as far as what they're trying to do. Like 1795 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,760 Speaker 1: we feel like these guys are are cogs in the 1796 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,479 Speaker 1: wheel of our football team. Big parts of it obviously 1797 01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,599 Speaker 1: from the way they played, the opportunity to be around 1798 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,000 Speaker 1: a couple of those guys for a short time who 1799 01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 1: they are to the team, and really it just sends 1800 01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,200 Speaker 1: a message to what the expectations are and as far 1801 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: as the culture goes, really what Sean and Brandon and 1802 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,240 Speaker 1: everyone had pitched him to establish there. If you're a 1803 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:11,160 Speaker 1: highly competitive, team oriented guy, you're gonna thrive in that situation. 1804 01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,320 Speaker 1: If you're not, you're gonna try to figure a way 1805 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,559 Speaker 1: to get out of there. So I think that's why 1806 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 1: you see so many guys that love it there who 1807 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: want to stay. They're the kind of guys you want 1808 01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,320 Speaker 1: to root for and the kind of guys you want 1809 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 1: on your football team. Kyle, what do you remember about 1810 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:31,000 Speaker 1: draft weekend when you were waiting to hear your name called? 1811 01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember, like where you were, who you're with 1812 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 1: all of that? Jazz. I was at home with my 1813 01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,960 Speaker 1: parents and a couple of friends and my wife, just 1814 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 1: kind of riding it out, just seeing where how the 1815 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,960 Speaker 1: chips were gonna fall, where I was gonna land. I 1816 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 1: actually spoke with a radio show here in my neck 1817 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,759 Speaker 1: of the woods last week and going through the process. 1818 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,799 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever spoke to anyone from Buffalo. 1819 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, if I had had a a proverbial gun 1820 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,479 Speaker 1: to my head and had to make a decision, I 1821 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,360 Speaker 1: would have said that maybe that three or the three 1822 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,320 Speaker 1: or four other teams I thought would have been on 1823 01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 1: the radar or draft me. I don't feel like I 1824 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,240 Speaker 1: ever spoke to anybody in Buffalo. So you just never 1825 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 1: know what that day holds as far as who's gonna 1826 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,599 Speaker 1: call your name, what position you're gonna get called, Especially 1827 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,160 Speaker 1: when you get down in that portion of the draft, 1828 01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:27,720 Speaker 1: you're just you're not really sure what's going on. And 1829 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: when you look back on those days, how long did 1830 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 1: it take you when you got on the field. And 1831 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:34,439 Speaker 1: I know there's little apprehension it was for me as 1832 01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,040 Speaker 1: a young player and probably a little bit different for you. 1833 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: But when you walk on the field, you walk in 1834 01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,639 Speaker 1: the room, you get on the field for the first practice, 1835 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:46,400 Speaker 1: how long did it take before you knew you were 1836 01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna have you were gonna be able to play at 1837 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,160 Speaker 1: that level it was gonna go well for you? You know, 1838 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,479 Speaker 1: when did you get some confidence about your career going 1839 01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,120 Speaker 1: forward as a pro after you got drafted. Well, you know, 1840 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you as I'm going through the 1841 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:03,200 Speaker 1: draft process and I'm seeing where these guys are rated 1842 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,000 Speaker 1: or maybe where they're getting drafted. You know a lot 1843 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 1: of those guys I played against in college that went 1844 01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,000 Speaker 1: to SEC schools or did this, And I said, well, 1845 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean I played against this guy. You know, I 1846 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,040 Speaker 1: had some accolades coming out of college, all conference, all 1847 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,439 Speaker 1: American things. I'm like, I don't understand, like all of 1848 01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,679 Speaker 1: a sudden, they're gonna give him a different colored helmet 1849 01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,080 Speaker 1: and move him to a different town and I can't 1850 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: be successful. I don't know if that was arrogance, being naive, 1851 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,720 Speaker 1: or really not not going what was going, But it 1852 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,120 Speaker 1: never really entered my mind that I wasn't going to 1853 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,200 Speaker 1: be able to be successful about it. But I always 1854 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,519 Speaker 1: knew that I was going to fall back on. I 1855 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,800 Speaker 1: just want a opportunity to compete, and if all things 1856 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,600 Speaker 1: are equal, when we roll the helmet out there and 1857 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,400 Speaker 1: you put your cleats on, you go get after it. 1858 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,120 Speaker 1: I always was very confident in what I could do 1859 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,400 Speaker 1: or what I could become, or however you want to 1860 01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 1: look at that, Kyle, I'm curious for your take on this. Obviously, 1861 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:05,519 Speaker 1: with the expansion in mobile quarterbacks even more than when 1862 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,920 Speaker 1: you were, you know, playing, I mean, they're dominating the 1863 01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,280 Speaker 1: league right now, guys that can make plays off script, 1864 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:15,639 Speaker 1: extend plays, etc. There's this common or a theory that's 1865 01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 1: growing in popularity that as far as edge rushers go, 1866 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 1: you want guys with good change of direction skills who, 1867 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,720 Speaker 1: if the quarterback does escape, can change direction and go 1868 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,479 Speaker 1: pursue instead of just climbing the pocket or you know, 1869 01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,639 Speaker 1: looping back down to make a play in the pocket. 1870 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:33,519 Speaker 1: They want a guy that can get out and chase. 1871 01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,720 Speaker 1: Do you believe, based on all these mobile quarterbacks that 1872 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,439 Speaker 1: theory has some merit that you might be better off 1873 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,760 Speaker 1: putting a premium on a defensive end. That's a quote 1874 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:50,560 Speaker 1: unquote long chase player. I think it's maybe not necessarily 1875 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,840 Speaker 1: just the quarterback position, but I think it's the nature 1876 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 1: of offenses in general at this point, playing in so 1877 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,720 Speaker 1: much open space and trying to get matched up one 1878 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 1: on ones, spreading the football out. You know, when I 1879 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,360 Speaker 1: first came into the league, it was still very much 1880 01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,640 Speaker 1: a gap scheme oriented league, and what I mean by 1881 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 1: that it was power counter iso play actions. The three 1882 01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 1: four defense was in vogue. Then you know, the big 1883 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,879 Speaker 1: hawking nose guard, the four techniques, we're gonna pound the football, 1884 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna play action off of it. And even towards 1885 01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,360 Speaker 1: the end of my career you saw this shift in. 1886 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,919 Speaker 1: Obviously you're talking about mobile quarterbacks, but the way offensive 1887 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:37,120 Speaker 1: linemen look, the lean, sleeker, able to move in space, 1888 01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,719 Speaker 1: and I think that's developed into what you see on defense. 1889 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 1: Guys that moved the guy that's sitting in there clogging 1890 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,639 Speaker 1: up the middle, so to speak. For thirty forty times, 1891 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 1: a game is really a personnel situation at this point, 1892 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 1: whether it's short yardage or first down, regular personnel. They're 1893 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,479 Speaker 1: evaluating people on being able to defend the whole field, 1894 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,360 Speaker 1: to be able to rush the passer, to be able 1895 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 1: to play in space. So I think you've seen not 1896 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,759 Speaker 1: just from the quarterback position, but a lot of overall 1897 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,080 Speaker 1: philosophy and how guys are trying to defend it, and 1898 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,000 Speaker 1: you know that's poured over into how they evaluate guys 1899 01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 1: and what they're looking for. As a guy who defended 1900 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,880 Speaker 1: the run for over a decade in the NFL, we've 1901 01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 1: had this conversation going on the Bills coming up a 1902 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,800 Speaker 1: drafting number thirty, people think they want to run the 1903 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,920 Speaker 1: ball better. So some fans believe that's gotta mean they 1904 01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,519 Speaker 1: got to take a running back in this draft at 1905 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,200 Speaker 1: the number thirtieth overall pick. And I've been telling Brennie, 1906 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 1: it's my philosophy is that if you want your running 1907 01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,360 Speaker 1: game to get better, get get more offensive lineman, get 1908 01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,280 Speaker 1: better offensive lineman. Night you defended the run for a 1909 01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 1: long time in the NFL. What's your philosophy on what 1910 01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:47,000 Speaker 1: makes an offense have a good running games as opposed 1911 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 1: to somebody who doesn't run the ball. So well, what's 1912 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:53,120 Speaker 1: the difference. Well, I believe that the game starts up front. 1913 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,000 Speaker 1: Obviously I could be biased on that dependent like where 1914 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,120 Speaker 1: I played, But I know, even like as a young 1915 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,759 Speaker 1: age in football, you can win football games with maybe 1916 01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,640 Speaker 1: not as talented skill players, but are really explosive our 1917 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,720 Speaker 1: talented offensive line group or defensive line group. You can 1918 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 1: do things there. So it could go either way. I 1919 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,040 Speaker 1: think if you're happy with your personnel in one area 1920 01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,320 Speaker 1: or another, there's probably a sliding scale of where you 1921 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,080 Speaker 1: would go with that pick or who you wanted to get. 1922 01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 1: But like I've talked about earlier, the way offenses have 1923 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:30,280 Speaker 1: changed to more of this spread them out defense, defend 1924 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,120 Speaker 1: the grass type of philosophies. If you look late in 1925 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,920 Speaker 1: the year, the football teams that win football games are 1926 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,720 Speaker 1: still it's still the same old, tried and true. Hey, 1927 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 1: run the football, stop the run, control the clock, do 1928 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,599 Speaker 1: those types of things. Those are still the football teams 1929 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,280 Speaker 1: you see playing late in the year in the NFL. Still. 1930 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: We're talking with former Bills defensive tackle Kyle William sixth 1931 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowler, and Kyle, I'm curious for your thoughts 1932 01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:00,880 Speaker 1: on how you thought the season unfold last year in 1933 01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:06,439 Speaker 1: terms of all the success that the offense had scoring points. Now, 1934 01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,600 Speaker 1: we talked to a couple of your former teammates on 1935 01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,800 Speaker 1: this roster on the defensive side of the ball, and 1936 01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,920 Speaker 1: while they weren't one to make excuses, they did say, 1937 01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, no pads in training camp, no preseason, and 1938 01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,160 Speaker 1: then go to Week one and go tackle guys at 1939 01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:27,400 Speaker 1: full NFL speed. They believe that that played a factor 1940 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 1: in the widespread success across the league. With scoring being 1941 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,160 Speaker 1: up as much as it was now, it did kind 1942 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,320 Speaker 1: of travel back and get cut into a little bit 1943 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,360 Speaker 1: in terms of the points per game averages the season 1944 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:42,120 Speaker 1: wore on. But would you say that's a valid reason 1945 01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,679 Speaker 1: for some of the proliferation and scoring that we saw 1946 01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,439 Speaker 1: this past year. Do you think there were some other 1947 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:51,639 Speaker 1: things at work there? I think without a doubt that's 1948 01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 1: something that you can certainly point to, especially early, maybe 1949 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,120 Speaker 1: the front half of the season, because it really doesn't 1950 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,479 Speaker 1: matter what you do, there is enough you can do 1951 01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:04,920 Speaker 1: to simulate game speed, game reps. You know, even when 1952 01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,640 Speaker 1: we were having full training camps, you know, when we 1953 01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:12,040 Speaker 1: were having still five six week training camps, four preseason games. 1954 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: There's notches and levels that the speed of the game, 1955 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,639 Speaker 1: the intensity that the game goes up. You're talking about 1956 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,000 Speaker 1: maybe some guys playing the preseason, some don't. Well, a 1957 01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:23,680 Speaker 1: lot of times some of those guys aren't playing at 1958 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:25,920 Speaker 1: the preseason because like they can hit another gear that 1959 01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,719 Speaker 1: some guys can, So you're talking about having to adapt 1960 01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,200 Speaker 1: to that. The speed of the game, the physicality of 1961 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:37,360 Speaker 1: the game almost fly, makes it much tougher on a defense. 1962 01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, to compound that, you have teams 1963 01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,479 Speaker 1: that are scoring at a high rate, so that means 1964 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 1: that they're running more plays, which in turn means you're 1965 01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 1: having to defend way more plays. So not only are 1966 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,040 Speaker 1: you trying to catch up to the speed of the 1967 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:55,400 Speaker 1: game how things are happening. Well, then you're defending seventy 1968 01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,920 Speaker 1: five eighty plays a game versus maybe sixty, and that 1969 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,080 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot, um, but go play twenty 1970 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 1: five plays in an NFL football game and a lot 1971 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,240 Speaker 1: of guys that's that's all that they'll end up getting 1972 01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 1: in a game. I mean, that's almost that's a big 1973 01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,280 Speaker 1: percentage chunk of the game that you gain in plays. 1974 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,160 Speaker 1: So I definitely think there's that's a good, good point 1975 01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,240 Speaker 1: of reason for without having that time to prepare. So 1976 01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,320 Speaker 1: you've you've you've enjoyed your retirement thus far. He haven't 1977 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,160 Speaker 1: been gone all that long. And you've now taken another 1978 01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 1: step in your retirement. You've taken on the defensive coordinator's 1979 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,880 Speaker 1: job at Rustin High School in Louisiana. How's the Rustin 1980 01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,240 Speaker 1: defense going to be this year? And what's your by 1981 01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,479 Speaker 1: the way, what's your season gonna look like? With the 1982 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:41,000 Speaker 1: remnants of the pandemic hanging around? UM we ended up 1983 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,800 Speaker 1: getting maybe three quarters of a regular season in last 1984 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,920 Speaker 1: year and the playoffs, um we were delayed. UM I 1985 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,960 Speaker 1: think maybe five or six weeks, so the we didn't 1986 01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 1: get started until later. Um. You know, there's protocols and 1987 01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,120 Speaker 1: things that we have to go through. UM, but really 1988 01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,560 Speaker 1: all we're trying to ensure that these kids have a 1989 01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:05,640 Speaker 1: as normal to close high school experience, I guess as 1990 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,680 Speaker 1: can be expected at this point. So we just we 1991 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,000 Speaker 1: try to work on that every day, all the while 1992 01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,759 Speaker 1: trying to teach them how to play the game of football, 1993 01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:17,160 Speaker 1: and as far as our defense goes, we're gonna hopefully 1994 01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,599 Speaker 1: get better and better. We've got we've got a pretty 1995 01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:23,120 Speaker 1: good group of kids. They work hard, they're coach bull 1996 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 1: and it's fun to show up every day and you know, 1997 01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,880 Speaker 1: really teach guys new things that they'd either never heard 1998 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,600 Speaker 1: before and never seen before and you know, hopefully have 1999 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 1: an impact on their young lives that you know, from 2000 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:39,720 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen to nineteen years old. How how did you 2001 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,960 Speaker 1: handle that transition, Kyle? I know your coach is here 2002 01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,960 Speaker 1: very often would lean on you to kind of help 2003 01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,200 Speaker 1: pass along some wisdom at times to some of your 2004 01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,759 Speaker 1: fellow teammates here, especially in the latter half of your career. 2005 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:56,519 Speaker 1: So was the transition relatively easy? Being on the other 2006 01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,280 Speaker 1: side of it, wearing a coach, and coaches had well, 2007 01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:03,960 Speaker 1: I really kind of got eased into it, I want 2008 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 1: to say eased into it because I had some different 2009 01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,080 Speaker 1: roles within the team while I was playing, but my 2010 01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,679 Speaker 1: first year out, you know, doing some work with the team, 2011 01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:16,880 Speaker 1: being around through training camp and during preparation weeks, so 2012 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,599 Speaker 1: it really had an opportunity to get into it then 2013 01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,479 Speaker 1: and maybe get my feet wet. And and here it's different. 2014 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:28,519 Speaker 1: You know, you're dealing with teenage kids that sometimes they're 2015 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,600 Speaker 1: just having a bad day and they can't tell you 2016 01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,240 Speaker 1: why they're just having a bad day. Where you know 2017 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,320 Speaker 1: up there, it's you better be at your best every 2018 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,679 Speaker 1: single day, or we'll just send you on to the house, 2019 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:40,600 Speaker 1: like we'll get somebody else to come do it. So 2020 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:45,200 Speaker 1: and it's really that it's not that like that here obviously, 2021 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:50,519 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's been easy because I think 2022 01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,679 Speaker 1: the kids attack every day, they're having fun and really, 2023 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,240 Speaker 1: in my opinion, like being on a team. There's nothing 2024 01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,240 Speaker 1: like being on a team, being involved with the same 2025 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,639 Speaker 1: whether it's with these high school kids NFL guys, there's 2026 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:07,080 Speaker 1: just there's always something special about a team and working 2027 01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:11,760 Speaker 1: together and trying that achieve a goal. As a team. Well, Kyle, listen, 2028 01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:13,960 Speaker 1: thanks very much for the time. Good luck to the 2029 01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,519 Speaker 1: Bearcats when the season starts up again for next year, 2030 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,800 Speaker 1: and be sure to say hi to the family for us. 2031 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,559 Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll do good to see you. Thanks, 2032 01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,559 Speaker 1: take care, Kyle. That's Kyle Williams, former Bill's defensive tackle. 2033 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:29,080 Speaker 1: Six time Pro bowler, was the first pick in round 2034 01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,320 Speaker 1: five of the two thousand and six draft, and The 2035 01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:36,439 Speaker 1: Ring The Ringer recently ranked him the twenty third best 2036 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:41,800 Speaker 1: valuable pick of the twenty first century. Here's what they 2037 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,040 Speaker 1: said about him. Kyle Williams is one of those guys 2038 01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,880 Speaker 1: we feel obligated to mention whenever possible, just to make 2039 01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,800 Speaker 1: sure his career doesn't get lost to history. Williams fell 2040 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,320 Speaker 1: through the cracks in the draft for the same reason 2041 01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,040 Speaker 1: most defensive tackles do. At six two ninety eight pounds, 2042 01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:59,519 Speaker 1: he was undersized for a traditional three technique, but his 2043 01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,400 Speaker 1: college numbers showed he had plenty of upside as a 2044 01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,000 Speaker 1: one gap tackle. He played thirteen seasons for the Bills, 2045 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,760 Speaker 1: tallied at least five sacks, and six of them Tremendous 2046 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,200 Speaker 1: production and staying power for a guy Buffalo drafted sixteen 2047 01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:17,120 Speaker 1: spots after the Patriots took Stephen Gaskowski one thirty fourth 2048 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,320 Speaker 1: overall Kyle Williams and ranked right ahead of him is 2049 01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:23,920 Speaker 1: his good friend and former college roommate Andrew Whitworth, who 2050 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,680 Speaker 1: is still playing for the LA Rams. He was a 2051 01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:30,040 Speaker 1: second round pick fifty five overall, and he did get 2052 01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:33,639 Speaker 1: three All Pro selections. Kyle got one. Six Pro Bowls. 2053 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,880 Speaker 1: For Kyle though in his Bill's career, and I think 2054 01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,080 Speaker 1: a candidate for the Wall of Fame, And I think, yes, 2055 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:45,200 Speaker 1: I agree. I think Kyle is the quintessential, you know, 2056 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,599 Speaker 1: guy who landed in the right spot at the right 2057 01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,840 Speaker 1: time and was the right type of guy. I think 2058 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,840 Speaker 1: his career I think was one of those that, yeah, 2059 01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,040 Speaker 1: while he was on the field really good, his presence 2060 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,680 Speaker 1: in the organization was even bigger as his career went 2061 01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,519 Speaker 1: on more more. He became one of those guys that 2062 01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:06,160 Speaker 1: whatever coach happened to be leaned on him, oh my gosh, 2063 01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,680 Speaker 1: and particularly even Sean McDermott, who realized it quickly and 2064 01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,120 Speaker 1: I think probably maximized it more so than the other 2065 01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:17,000 Speaker 1: coach when he was building the culture here. I think, 2066 01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle proved his worth as a as a 2067 01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:24,360 Speaker 1: resource and a sounding board and an inspirational point on 2068 01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:33,200 Speaker 1: the roster for the entire squad. Kyle is probably I 2069 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 1: don't I wouldn't want to say he's unmatched, because Ray 2070 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,240 Speaker 1: Lewis was really good at pregame speeches with his teammates, right, 2071 01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,200 Speaker 1: But Kyle Williams is right up there, man. And this 2072 01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,520 Speaker 1: guy was given pregame speeches for the better part at 2073 01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,880 Speaker 1: ten of his thirteen NFL seasons. So think about that 2074 01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:54,760 Speaker 1: every week, trying to summon up some motivational words that 2075 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:59,640 Speaker 1: aren't redundant from the week before to get your guys 2076 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,480 Speaker 1: amp up. And I did a story on that on 2077 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:05,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com and just talking to his teammates, 2078 01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:10,520 Speaker 1: I was getting goosebumps just transcribing the interviews. He's yeah, 2079 01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:14,920 Speaker 1: he's yes, you can tell he's he's a really competitive guy. 2080 01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,680 Speaker 1: And he's also really really smart. And that's where those 2081 01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, his pregame speeches come from. He has a 2082 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,960 Speaker 1: way to he understands where all these guys are because 2083 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,760 Speaker 1: you're in a huddle with eleven guys in the NFL, 2084 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,200 Speaker 1: they're from everywhere. And to be able to bring him 2085 01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,480 Speaker 1: in and to and to give him one thing that 2086 01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,560 Speaker 1: they all grab hold of is really special trait. He 2087 01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:42,120 Speaker 1: had a way of getting guys so jacked up for games, 2088 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,400 Speaker 1: Like I still remember talking Mike Hide about he goes 2089 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,480 Speaker 1: my first game here, Kyle brings everybody up before the game. 2090 01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,920 Speaker 1: He goes, and I'm listening to him and I'm like, 2091 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,160 Speaker 1: oh man, this is good. And then he's like, oh wow, 2092 01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:55,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I want to run through a wall 2093 01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,560 Speaker 1: right now, Like he couldn't believe it. He goes, and 2094 01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,800 Speaker 1: then he did it again and again and again. That's 2095 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,640 Speaker 1: my motivation, he said, And my motivation level because of Kyle, 2096 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,160 Speaker 1: it never wavered from one week to the next, because 2097 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,720 Speaker 1: every time he spoke it got better and better and better. 2098 01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 1: That's and the trick of it it not the trick 2099 01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,920 Speaker 1: of it, but that the underlying common denominators this Kyle 2100 01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,520 Speaker 1: had a way of speaking to guys that made them 2101 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:25,560 Speaker 1: get motivated from inside themselves. They they grabbed on what 2102 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:31,400 Speaker 1: he said and it came up. And that's It's every 2103 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,120 Speaker 1: talent evaluator or anybody who's over who's seen guys who 2104 01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,040 Speaker 1: have like come from nowhere to achieve like Kyle did. 2105 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,120 Speaker 1: In one thirty fourth overall all of a sudden, he's 2106 01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,560 Speaker 1: a pro bowl or and and all pro guys like that. 2107 01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,240 Speaker 1: The motivation, it's not like from a pregame speech where 2108 01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:51,480 Speaker 1: it comes from inside. It's something like Tom Brady is 2109 01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,880 Speaker 1: a different guy inside his ear, in between his ears, 2110 01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 1: like all these guys are. Kyle had a way of 2111 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 1: being a guy away from you who could reach inside 2112 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 1: you and you to do it to yourself. You can 2113 01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:08,200 Speaker 1: motivate yourself. That's that is rare. It's really rare. Ray 2114 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,200 Speaker 1: Lewis was the same way. Ray Lewis could do that. 2115 01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,160 Speaker 1: It's a guy that can speak to you and get 2116 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,600 Speaker 1: you to find it inside yourself. But there's so much 2117 01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,880 Speaker 1: passion coming out of him. Yes, about the competition that's 2118 01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 1: about to ensue that you're like you want to either 2119 01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,600 Speaker 1: meet his level because he's your teammate and he's telling 2120 01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,000 Speaker 1: you he loves you, or he's gonna lay it out 2121 01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,840 Speaker 1: there for you. So now it's just like, oh damn, 2122 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm ready to lay it out there for him now. 2123 01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:37,160 Speaker 1: And that's why that's why just about every coach that 2124 01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,760 Speaker 1: he was under, uh, you know, right before the coach 2125 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,480 Speaker 1: left the locker room. All right, Kyle, you got him 2126 01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,880 Speaker 1: circling him up right, I'm good, take it away. You 2127 01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:47,720 Speaker 1: really want you want to want to bottle up those 2128 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,240 Speaker 1: speeches and play him at the right time. One about 2129 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,080 Speaker 1: that one about going out in the deep water is 2130 01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,960 Speaker 1: one of his best. He's talking about you know, some 2131 01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:00,440 Speaker 1: teams won't lay it all out there every week. They're 2132 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,480 Speaker 1: afraid to go out in the deep water where you 2133 01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,560 Speaker 1: can't reach the bottom. And he's like his analogies and 2134 01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:07,920 Speaker 1: his symbol, I mean, he was real. I mean, I 2135 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,000 Speaker 1: remember that the one. Everybody in the locker room can 2136 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,440 Speaker 1: relate to. That one. I remember two one another verbreak 2137 01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 1: can relate to is like, guys, I want you to 2138 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,080 Speaker 1: give the effort you promised yourself you'd give when you 2139 01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:18,440 Speaker 1: were a kid. Yeah, if you ever got the chance 2140 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,280 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL, what kind of effort that's like? 2141 01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 1: And now you're here, make it happen. It's it's pretty cool. 2142 01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,080 Speaker 1: Spine tingle. Oh my god, spine tingling. All right, we 2143 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,080 Speaker 1: gotta take a break when we come back. Some more 2144 01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,520 Speaker 1: of your thoughts on the tweet sheet. If in fact 2145 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:37,440 Speaker 1: the first ten picks in this draft go all offense, 2146 01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:39,800 Speaker 1: there's a change your thoughts about what the Bills should 2147 01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 1: do at pick thirty know when they could possibly get 2148 01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:47,640 Speaker 1: a top twenty defensive player. Something to think about. We 2149 01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:49,760 Speaker 1: want your thoughts next here on One Bill's Live present 2150 01:58:49,800 --> 01:59:05,040 Speaker 1: about Collid to help. It's Buffalo Bills Radio, final half 2151 01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:07,520 Speaker 1: hour of a Monday edition and One Bills Live. Chris Brown, 2152 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:13,000 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and we are plowing through your 2153 01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:16,080 Speaker 1: answers on the tweet sheet as we were asking if 2154 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,720 Speaker 1: the top ten is all offensive players, does that change 2155 01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts on what the Bill should do? Add thirty 2156 01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:25,160 Speaker 1: and Tiffany says, you stick to your draft board and 2157 01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:27,880 Speaker 1: add a player that can compete for playing time. These 2158 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,520 Speaker 1: guys are really good at what they do. I have 2159 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:33,400 Speaker 1: no doubt whoever they draft, he'll check all the boxes. 2160 01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:37,480 Speaker 1: They cove it. I'm wondering if if they stay there 2161 01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:41,960 Speaker 1: at thirty, if the top ten is almost all offense, 2162 01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,480 Speaker 1: I think it enhances the chances of them staying at thirty. 2163 01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:50,480 Speaker 1: Of course, there could always be a cornerback run or 2164 01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:52,520 Speaker 1: an edge rusher run, and then you're left out in 2165 01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:54,360 Speaker 1: the cold. Anyway, I'll say you guys said it earlier 2166 01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:59,000 Speaker 1: in the show. I think there's no doubt when when 2167 01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 1: it comes to the Bills pick, it's going to take 2168 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,200 Speaker 1: them every moment of the fifteen minutes they've got on 2169 02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,960 Speaker 1: the first round, because I think they'll wait for their 2170 02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,240 Speaker 1: there's a chance they'll wait for their phone to ring 2171 02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:12,200 Speaker 1: from teams at in the top of the second round. Yeah, 2172 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,440 Speaker 1: and if you're not aware of it, if you're drafting 2173 02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:17,000 Speaker 1: the first round of the NFL, it's a kind of 2174 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:22,760 Speaker 1: a rubber stamped concrete contract for first rounders. It's five 2175 02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:25,040 Speaker 1: year contract and you have the option year stuff, just 2176 02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,200 Speaker 1: like we've been talking about Josh All and Tremaine Edmonds. 2177 02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,160 Speaker 1: That's the contract. You get the five year length and 2178 02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:32,560 Speaker 1: you get an option year after the third year for 2179 02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,280 Speaker 1: that fifth year that becomes guaranteed. That's a big deal 2180 02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,560 Speaker 1: to some teams when they're talking about certain players that 2181 02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:40,840 Speaker 1: they want to have their hooks in for a five 2182 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:46,840 Speaker 1: years instead of four. So the Bills at thirty, you know, 2183 02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:49,560 Speaker 1: you just two picks away from there. Basically at the 2184 02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,560 Speaker 1: top of the second round, teams will jump up and 2185 02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,200 Speaker 1: offer you a little bit more draft capital to get 2186 02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,920 Speaker 1: into the first round to get that extra year on 2187 02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:58,640 Speaker 1: the guy they want to sign and the guy they 2188 02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:00,160 Speaker 1: want to pick. So the Bills are gonna wait eight 2189 02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:05,040 Speaker 1: at thirty if indeed it does get to them, because 2190 02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:07,560 Speaker 1: they're not, you know, unless there's a guy they really 2191 02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:11,080 Speaker 1: want that may not be there, and they want him 2192 02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:13,000 Speaker 1: more so than the fact that there's nobody else they 2193 02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:16,120 Speaker 1: want as a first round talent. There's if they don't 2194 02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,920 Speaker 1: trade up a couple of spots, and believe me, four 2195 02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,000 Speaker 1: or five spots is as far as they're gonna go 2196 02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to trade up. I would think unless you start getting 2197 02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:28,720 Speaker 1: players involved, you know they're gonna trade up three or 2198 02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:30,320 Speaker 1: four spots to get a guy they really liked because 2199 02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,000 Speaker 1: he's the last first round or they see I would 2200 02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:35,200 Speaker 1: say they're gonna There's every chance that they may sit 2201 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:36,840 Speaker 1: there and say, you know, we're gonna we're gonna take 2202 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:40,320 Speaker 1: the thirty seventh, thirty ninth, thirty eighth pick, thirty sixth pick, 2203 02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:42,480 Speaker 1: whatever pick you want to pick in the top of 2204 02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:44,720 Speaker 1: the second round, and we're gonna move back. There's a 2205 02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:47,640 Speaker 1: big chance of that you get an extra three or 2206 02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:52,680 Speaker 1: a four, depending on how far back you're moving, and 2207 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,960 Speaker 1: an extra three or an extra four is valuable in 2208 02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:59,120 Speaker 1: this year's draft. So if there's a run on corners, 2209 02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,800 Speaker 1: if there's a run on edge rushers. There's a really 2210 02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:07,000 Speaker 1: good chance to builds trade back, Yeah, because because if 2211 02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:09,480 Speaker 1: on their board the cupboard's bear, there's no point in 2212 02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:12,440 Speaker 1: staying there because now you're picking somebody that doesn't fit 2213 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,240 Speaker 1: the value of the thirtieth overall selection on your board. 2214 02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:18,720 Speaker 1: The question is what is who's your what's your partner 2215 02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:22,320 Speaker 1: going to give up in that trade? Well, hopefully there's 2216 02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:24,480 Speaker 1: somebody they cove it that is up there. Yeah, it 2217 02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 1: fits their scheme better than yours. Yeah, you hope there's 2218 02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:29,080 Speaker 1: somebody really cove it. They give you a you know, 2219 02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:31,400 Speaker 1: a second and a third or or even a third 2220 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,960 Speaker 1: and a fourth or something even better. Who knows. Yeah, 2221 02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:42,880 Speaker 1: in this draft. So yeah, man, I didn't know it 2222 02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,440 Speaker 1: was going to be this complicated. Picking at thirty it's 2223 02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot. It's an exercise in patience number one. It's 2224 02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:53,360 Speaker 1: an exercise in flying blind number two. There's so much 2225 02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,360 Speaker 1: we don't know about. That's what I mean. The rest 2226 02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 1: of the draft, you are flying blind. You don't know 2227 02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:58,840 Speaker 1: about what the other teams are gonna do and what's 2228 02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen above you, And you don't know a lot 2229 02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,680 Speaker 1: about a lot of players in the draft, about their 2230 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,680 Speaker 1: medical that kind of thing. You haven't seen him play 2231 02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:09,040 Speaker 1: in a while. There's not that many guys in this pool, 2232 02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:15,680 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, you're not in dire need anywhere on 2233 02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:21,920 Speaker 1: your roster. And the other thing too, And because I 2234 02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,120 Speaker 1: remember Brandon addressing this back in twenty eighteen when he 2235 02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,600 Speaker 1: was getting set for his first draft, when he was 2236 02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:30,480 Speaker 1: in possession of the twenty second pick in round one, 2237 02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I remember he was asked a question about, you know, 2238 02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,920 Speaker 1: how are you going to kind of prepare for the 2239 02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,680 Speaker 1: twenty second pick. You know, there was all the speculation 2240 02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,280 Speaker 1: about them trying to move up, but at the combine, 2241 02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:43,880 Speaker 1: I think at that time, they still had just the 2242 02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty second pick, and he was saying, well, you know, 2243 02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:49,640 Speaker 1: will mock it and you know, run through it several times, 2244 02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:52,320 Speaker 1: will assign you know, some guys in the college scouting 2245 02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:55,680 Speaker 1: department all right, you're the Rams and you're the Buccaneers, 2246 02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,800 Speaker 1: And they would do a mock draft as an exercise 2247 02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:02,120 Speaker 1: just to see how how things would unfold or could 2248 02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:07,920 Speaker 1: potentially unfold. And it serves Brandon well as the final 2249 02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:11,080 Speaker 1: decision maker because now there are these different scenarios that 2250 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:12,920 Speaker 1: have come to pass that he can kind of file 2251 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,640 Speaker 1: away and say okay, And they're doing it based on 2252 02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:19,520 Speaker 1: what their pro personnel department intel tells them the RAMS 2253 02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:21,760 Speaker 1: might be in the market for, and like they've got 2254 02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,760 Speaker 1: all that, and so they run as close to a 2255 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:26,920 Speaker 1: real mock draft as they can. But he did say 2256 02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I do remember him saying this, it's a lot harder 2257 02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,800 Speaker 1: to do that with a measure of accuracy at twenty 2258 02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:34,800 Speaker 1: two than when you're in the top half of the draft. 2259 02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,320 Speaker 1: So the follow up question to that was, well, what 2260 02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,000 Speaker 1: is a safe area where you guys feel pretty good 2261 02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:45,120 Speaker 1: about knowing how to accurately mock the first umpteen number 2262 02:04:45,160 --> 02:04:48,040 Speaker 1: of choices? And he said, usually you can do pretty 2263 02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:52,400 Speaker 1: well with the first dozen, maybe fifteen, he goes, after that, 2264 02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,600 Speaker 1: it starts getting a little squirrelly, right, And so to 2265 02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:59,400 Speaker 1: know you're sitting at thirty, you know, you think, all right, 2266 02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:01,360 Speaker 1: we can mock the for his ten to twelve pretty good. 2267 02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:04,840 Speaker 1: You got another seventeen eighteen picks to go, and you 2268 02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,120 Speaker 1: spend a ton of time. He's on the phone a lot, 2269 02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:11,160 Speaker 1: I would assume, and with with other gms throughout this process, 2270 02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,240 Speaker 1: off and on throughout the Wii every day. You know, 2271 02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:16,240 Speaker 1: as the as the day's roll past, he's touching base 2272 02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:18,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of gms that are above him and 2273 02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:20,920 Speaker 1: behind him. About okay, if we're thinking about you know, 2274 02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:25,600 Speaker 1: maybe if we're at thirty, how much do you how 2275 02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:27,720 Speaker 1: much do you want this pick? Because if this happens, 2276 02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:30,160 Speaker 1: we're interested in getting out of it. If this happens, 2277 02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,320 Speaker 1: we're interested in getting up higher. Having conversations with a 2278 02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,960 Speaker 1: lot of other gms, and with the information you get 2279 02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,640 Speaker 1: back from them, you kind of extrapolate that in your 2280 02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:41,720 Speaker 1: mind so that when things do fall ahead of you, 2281 02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:43,960 Speaker 1: you've already had the conversation, so you kind of get 2282 02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,800 Speaker 1: an idea of what these other teams are thinking and 2283 02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,680 Speaker 1: you might be able to anticipate a move or at 2284 02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,120 Speaker 1: least look for it or know that it's been talked about. 2285 02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,920 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't happen, what happened and what it 2286 02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:59,320 Speaker 1: means that it's you know, it's a game of thrones 2287 02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:03,480 Speaker 1: to the man, I mean it really is. I mean, 2288 02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,800 Speaker 1: dog eat Dog. You don't want to be wearing milk 2289 02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Bone's dog eat dog And you're lying your way through 2290 02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the whole thing, right, Tim on the tweet sheet says, 2291 02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:14,960 Speaker 1: doesn't change a thing for me. It should mean that 2292 02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,440 Speaker 1: a defensive end or corner will fall in their laps. 2293 02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:20,879 Speaker 1: And while I think it enhances the chances of that happening, 2294 02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,640 Speaker 1: it's not a lock because even after you get to ten, 2295 02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,360 Speaker 1: there's still nineteen picks in front of you, and all 2296 02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:29,000 Speaker 1: you need is a run on corners, and all of 2297 02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, the well is the pool is dried up 2298 02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,320 Speaker 1: and corners and edge rushers, yeah, you know, And then 2299 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,400 Speaker 1: and then you start thinking about, okay, well, if that happens, 2300 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,280 Speaker 1: then the bill's got a chance at an offensive tackle 2301 02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,800 Speaker 1: or offensive guard into your offensive lineman, which is still 2302 02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:48,040 Speaker 1: a plus, a huge plus. Thirty guy, I mean twenty nine, 2303 02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:50,680 Speaker 1: I guess twenty nine guys. You can take twenty nine 2304 02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,640 Speaker 1: guys off the top of this draft class. You're still 2305 02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,240 Speaker 1: going to get a really good player, really good player, 2306 02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,320 Speaker 1: but he's he's going to be joining a real good 2307 02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:03,080 Speaker 1: football team, and if he's not played in the right position, 2308 02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,000 Speaker 1: he'll have a hard time getting any playing time. Here 2309 02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:10,520 Speaker 1: are some different thoughts. Amy says, stay at thirty, don't 2310 02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:12,800 Speaker 1: sacrifice the rest of your draft to trade up. Stay 2311 02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:15,320 Speaker 1: where you are, or trade down if possible, depending on 2312 02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,720 Speaker 1: who is there. Hoping for a corner or an edge 2313 02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:25,920 Speaker 1: unless oh, Jeremiah Usukamoa or Barmore are there, which jok 2314 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,640 Speaker 1: won't be there, Barmore might be there. And then Nick 2315 02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:32,520 Speaker 1: says we should trade our pick for a tight end 2316 02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:34,760 Speaker 1: that can make a difference on this team this year. 2317 02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,520 Speaker 1: What are the chances of any players drafted this year 2318 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,600 Speaker 1: that can make this team? This team is stout from 2319 02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:43,960 Speaker 1: top to bottom. We've had these conversations too off and on. 2320 02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:47,520 Speaker 1: You get we have two fifths and a sixth, no 2321 02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:49,760 Speaker 1: seventh rounder, no fourth rounders. Now I think they have 2322 02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:53,120 Speaker 1: they have a seven, right, they have? They have one, two, three, 2323 02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,800 Speaker 1: They have seven total picks one two, three, two fives 2324 02:07:55,880 --> 02:08:00,240 Speaker 1: or six and a seven. Yeah, okay, the fives, six 2325 02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:06,080 Speaker 1: in the seven at in my mind, the most those 2326 02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:09,120 Speaker 1: guys can hope for is a practice squad spot. This 2327 02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:12,320 Speaker 1: team is too deep and too talented unless you get 2328 02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:15,480 Speaker 1: a fifth round or or anyone in fifth, sixth round, 2329 02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:18,320 Speaker 1: unless you can get one of those guys that automatic 2330 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:22,560 Speaker 1: is a special teams stud or a Gabriel Davis or 2331 02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:26,680 Speaker 1: yeah type. Yeah, not necessarily at that position, but you 2332 02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:28,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Well, who's that gonna be? What 2333 02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:30,400 Speaker 1: position is that gonna be Yeah, it's a good question, 2334 02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:33,120 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, so unless you get this guy 2335 02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:37,640 Speaker 1: who can play special teams and can just a returner something, 2336 02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:40,440 Speaker 1: those guys you're not They're not going to see the 2337 02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:43,320 Speaker 1: light of day on game day. So what do you 2338 02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:45,440 Speaker 1: do with those? Then you're gonna swap those out for 2339 02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:48,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two picks, what are you gonna get? A 2340 02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:50,360 Speaker 1: fifth round or a fourth round might get the same thing. 2341 02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:53,360 Speaker 1: But think about this, with a draft pool that's probably 2342 02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:56,840 Speaker 1: gonna number two thousand players next year as opposed to 2343 02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,400 Speaker 1: a draft pool that's six hundred and fifty seven this year. 2344 02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:03,320 Speaker 1: If you can swap out a five for a five 2345 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,040 Speaker 1: next year, it might be deemed as a more valuable pick, 2346 02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:08,560 Speaker 1: especially if you're one of the teams that's going to 2347 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,240 Speaker 1: be in the top four again and the team you're 2348 02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,120 Speaker 1: swapping with might be middle of the pack. Get a 2349 02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:17,880 Speaker 1: mid fifth, Yeah, it could be more valuable than a fifties. 2350 02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:21,320 Speaker 1: You get somebody to take that deal. I'm all about it. 2351 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm all about it. Up. George is going to raise 2352 02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:28,640 Speaker 1: the ire of Steve Tasker because he says a running 2353 02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:32,400 Speaker 1: back isn't just about running the ball. If a team 2354 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,720 Speaker 1: has to account for him and bring a safety up. 2355 02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:38,080 Speaker 1: It'll open things up more for Josh. If Etn is 2356 02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:41,600 Speaker 1: the best player on the board, take him all caps. 2357 02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm with him. If the board I said it, You 2358 02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:49,000 Speaker 1: did you say that? If I said it within this hour. Man, 2359 02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:51,960 Speaker 1: If there's nothing else there, there's nothing. If there's nothing 2360 02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:53,840 Speaker 1: else else, If that guy's the best gown on your board, 2361 02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:55,680 Speaker 1: take him. I don't care. If he's what he plays 2362 02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:58,200 Speaker 1: and running back that falls into that category as well. 2363 02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:02,440 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm with you, um, but I'm like with 2364 02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams said it all your running game starts up front, 2365 02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:09,800 Speaker 1: not with the guy you're handing the ball too. I'm 2366 02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:15,400 Speaker 1: with everything better if he's But I'm I'm struggling. We've 2367 02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:16,840 Speaker 1: heard it a couple of times from a couple of 2368 02:10:16,840 --> 02:10:20,200 Speaker 1: in fact, our our guests today, Bruce Feldman said, you 2369 02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:22,440 Speaker 1: know this at N guy can catch the ball well, 2370 02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:27,080 Speaker 1: and he that's that's lately he's been able to catch 2371 02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:28,880 Speaker 1: the ball well. He had to work really hard on 2372 02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,680 Speaker 1: doing it to get better at it. And we had 2373 02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:36,240 Speaker 1: somebody saying comparing him to uh An Alvin Kamara, Man, 2374 02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's a stretch to me, 2375 02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,720 Speaker 1: at N really struggled to catch the ball up until 2376 02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:46,760 Speaker 1: this year when the word hasn't he put some work 2377 02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:48,640 Speaker 1: in on it. Now may great if he's willing to 2378 02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:51,000 Speaker 1: work like that, and maybe you know it will show 2379 02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:52,960 Speaker 1: dividends because you got to work hard to stay in 2380 02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:56,320 Speaker 1: the league. So maybe that's true. But it's not a 2381 02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:59,120 Speaker 1: natural thing for him. And comparing him to Alvin Kamara, 2382 02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I think is a straight but some guys, but it's 2383 02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:05,520 Speaker 1: been done so they God give them as much credibility 2384 02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:08,400 Speaker 1: as I give myself, that's for sure. I mean right, 2385 02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:11,920 Speaker 1: So at N is a talent, no question about it. 2386 02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,920 Speaker 1: He's a really good player. If he's the best player 2387 02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:16,880 Speaker 1: on the Bill's draft board when at the time, at 2388 02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:18,720 Speaker 1: any point when they pick you can say that now 2389 02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:20,920 Speaker 1: at any point when they pick him, that's fine, fine 2390 02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,080 Speaker 1: with it. There's a guy. Would you rather have him 2391 02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:27,000 Speaker 1: or Nagi Harris? A lot of most people have Naggi 2392 02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Harris ahead of him. What if Harris falls to that? 2393 02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:35,560 Speaker 1: Harris is too much like Moss and Singletary in my estimation, 2394 02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:39,360 Speaker 1: he's bigger and stronger. Is he faster? Not any faster? 2395 02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Not any faster. I mean he's not a home run guy, 2396 02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, which is what everybody's obsessed with. So there 2397 02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,680 Speaker 1: it is okay, break time for us. Steve and I 2398 02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:53,120 Speaker 1: close up a Monday edition as we move ever closer 2399 02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:56,200 Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Back in the moment. 2400 02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Here on one, Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, 2401 02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:12,520 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio time for what have we learned? 2402 02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental 2403 02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:19,800 Speaker 1: company at the Buffalo Bills. Well, we've learned a lot, 2404 02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,040 Speaker 1: at least around the league today, Steve. You know this 2405 02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:25,440 Speaker 1: whole dance with the forty nine ers at three being 2406 02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:28,840 Speaker 1: down to two guys, the Patriots trying to get up 2407 02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:32,200 Speaker 1: into the top ten. It's Carolina going to move out 2408 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,840 Speaker 1: at eight. It is the top ten going to be 2409 02:12:34,920 --> 02:12:42,720 Speaker 1: all offensive players, Julio Jones trade Falcons at four. Quarterback 2410 02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:47,040 Speaker 1: yea or nay. It's also delicious our five quarterbacks going 2411 02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:49,280 Speaker 1: in the top ten, which would be the first time 2412 02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:54,560 Speaker 1: that has ever happened, which means that you know, they're 2413 02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:57,600 Speaker 1: all different, but generally speaking, it's a coin flip and 2414 02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:01,600 Speaker 1: you'll have one total bust, one that is an absolute 2415 02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:06,880 Speaker 1: can't meet, you know, one home run, one that's bad, 2416 02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:10,680 Speaker 1: one that's just okay, and you'll have one that's me. 2417 02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, you'll get the grades from the best to 2418 02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:16,600 Speaker 1: the worst, and everybody else is gonna be in there 2419 02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:21,120 Speaker 1: somewhere inside there. A final comment on the tweet sheet 2420 02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:24,720 Speaker 1: from Bernie. Trade down from thirty and get another third 2421 02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,520 Speaker 1: round pick. Then pick whoever's best fit on your board, 2422 02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:29,960 Speaker 1: then trade away both fives to get a pick in 2423 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,160 Speaker 1: the fourth. Now they have five picks in the top 2424 02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:34,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and that's where all the talent is. 2425 02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:37,640 Speaker 1: If you can find it's a lot of doing, Bernie. 2426 02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:40,760 Speaker 1: If you can find takers on that deal, I'm one 2427 02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:42,440 Speaker 1: of them, I'll do it. But I want to be 2428 02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:44,280 Speaker 1: the bills on the bills end of it. I think 2429 02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:47,080 Speaker 1: I think you're asking a lot. But they may do it. 2430 02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:50,200 Speaker 1: They might, if it depends on how badly somebody wants 2431 02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:53,280 Speaker 1: into the first Speaking of doing it, that'll do it 2432 02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:57,400 Speaker 1: for us. Today, as we sit three days, five hours, 2433 02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,200 Speaker 1: four minutes, and twenty seconds away from the twenty twenty 2434 02:14:01,240 --> 02:14:03,920 Speaker 1: one NFL Draft, Steve and I will see tomorrow