Speaker 1: Look out he saw me films to be buried with
Speaker 1: Judgment Day. Hello, and welcome to films to be buried
Speaker 1: with Judgment Day. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a
Speaker 1: comedian and actor, a writer, director, a couch strategist, and
Speaker 1: I love films. As Jane Austen once said, I declare,
Speaker 1: after all, there is no enjoyment like reading. But for
Speaker 1: some reason, the Princess Bride just hits different. Know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, fair play, Jane, you get it. Every
Speaker 1: week I invite a special guest over, I tell them
Speaker 1: they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life
Speaker 1: through the films that meant the most of them. But
Speaker 1: not today. Today is Judgment Day. The world has ended,
Speaker 1: and Rhece Jane stands before me. He has one chance
Speaker 1: to prove why I should send him to heaven or
Speaker 1: to hell. What will happen? Well find out in a minute.
Speaker 1: Head over to the Patreon at patroon dot com forward
Speaker 1: slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes Reese, where we talk secrets, we talk
Speaker 1: all sorts of things. You also get the whole episode uncut,
Speaker 1: adfree and does a video check it out over at
Speaker 1: patreon dot com. Forward Slash Break Girls Tea Shrinking, Season two,
Speaker 1: Episode six is now available on Apple TV. I had
Speaker 1: the great pleasure of writing this episode. Have a look.
Speaker 1: All the actors are fucking amazing and you'll love it.
Speaker 1: So for his third appearance with us, the ever brilliant
Speaker 1: and amazing Reese James. He's a stand up you know
Speaker 1: him from Mock Week and all kinds of radio things.
Speaker 1: He had his own radio series. He's got a brand
Speaker 1: new special called Spilt Milk. You can find that online.
Speaker 1: You know him. He's been on this twice before. I
Speaker 1: love him. He's brilliant and it was so nice to
Speaker 1: hang out with him again and to find out if
Speaker 1: I'm going to send him to Heaven or hell. So
Speaker 1: that is it for now. I very much hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy episode three hundred and twenty five of Films to
Speaker 1: be Buried with Judgment Day. Hello, and welcome to Films
Speaker 1: to be Buried with Judgment Day. It is I Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: and I am joined for the third time by an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a broadcaster, a journalist, a podcaster, a comedian,
Speaker 1: a charity shop, a fictionnado, a mock the weaker. A
Speaker 1: does something with children, not in a bad way, in
Speaker 1: a humorous way. A poker player, a legend, a soft
Speaker 1: boy and a hard boy, and one of the great
Speaker 1: comedians in the UK working in this generation and any
Speaker 1: generation before or after. Please welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: It's the wonderful, the brilliant, the incredible is threes times.
Speaker 2: Thank you, gret.
Speaker 3: I liked how you sort of started caveating your compliments,
Speaker 3: but then you realize you were caveating them, so you
Speaker 3: widened them again quite quickly, working in the UK and
Speaker 3: in his generation or any generation still the UK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, does stuff with kids, not in a bad way,
Speaker 1: in a good way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that about? What was that referring to?
Speaker 1: Didn't you do a show where you're scaring kids?
Speaker 3: I did a Yeah, it was a branded thing for
Speaker 3: a dairy Lee, which is a soft cheese for children.
Speaker 3: So basically I did a thing for Lego and Channel
Speaker 3: four with kids where it was like kids have like
Speaker 3: come up with their idea of the future and they're
Speaker 3: going to build it out of Lego and then tell
Speaker 3: me about it. I did one, and Ashling Be did one,
Speaker 3: and Judy Love did one, and they liked it because
Speaker 3: I'm rude to children, and famously, yeah, it's really exactly
Speaker 3: as you know, I'm rude to guess the joke of reeses,
Speaker 3: I'm rude to kids, and I it's quite disarming for children.
Speaker 3: They don't because everyone goes, oh, well done, how did
Speaker 3: you think of that? Whereas I go, I can do better, Matt,
Speaker 3: and then I do do better than that, and then
Speaker 3: they go o, yeah, okay, we'll watch this then and
Speaker 3: then they do something even more.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, I.
Speaker 3: Just that's what they made me feel like. They made
Speaker 3: me feel cool because you look like you look exactly,
Speaker 3: look like threatened exactly, and so the same company. But
Speaker 3: then like, actually, we've got this other one we want
Speaker 3: to do in the woods. Will you come and do
Speaker 3: that one?
Speaker 2: Now? That day was a lot more stressful.
Speaker 3: The Lego one took about two hours and we just
Speaker 3: sat in a room full of Lego.
Speaker 2: The Woods one, it was like whole day.
Speaker 3: The premises the kids get to make you do whatever
Speaker 3: they want, and you've got to go around the woods,
Speaker 3: and but the kids just want to run away and
Speaker 3: not hang out with me. So I was like, well,
Speaker 3: there we go. That's the film and they were like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: you've got to be in it. We're paying you the
Speaker 3: big bucks. Boy, you've got to be in shot. At
Speaker 3: least you've got to charm these kids.
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3: But also these kids were like, they were so much
Speaker 3: more Haywire than the kids in the Lego one. Right,
Speaker 3: And they were brother and sister, they were five and nine,
Speaker 3: and honestly, they were off camera they were saying some
Speaker 3: of the most defensive slurs you've ever heard, and you
Speaker 3: got a damn life, really, and it was, honestly, it
Speaker 3: was so hard. It was such a difficult day's work. Fuck,
Speaker 3: trying to get any content out of that day.
Speaker 1: Lee all this unoffended that you say is a cheese
Speaker 1: for kids when it's my favorite of all the cheeses.
Speaker 2: There's no way that you break gold. Do you eat
Speaker 2: dairy Lee?
Speaker 1: Are you do? You want to look at my Are
Speaker 1: you joking me? Dairy Lee strings probably the food eat
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 3: Really, I would have straight into the old the diet plan.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Cheese is all right in it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Jesus, all right, No, that's not that good.
Speaker 3: Contractly obligated to say that delicious, healthy snack.
Speaker 1: I love mate you more.
Speaker 2: Cheese string guy myself.
Speaker 1: Listen also like a cheese string. But I think I
Speaker 1: like the way the dairy lee strips strip if I.
Speaker 3: May so, it is dairyly a global brand. Is this
Speaker 3: accessible in America?
Speaker 1: Sadly that I have in America? And I'd say that
Speaker 1: that's probably the only thing that's currently wrong with America,
Speaker 1: is what is so? Tell us this? Since we've last seen,
Speaker 1: You've got a new stand up special app It's called
Speaker 1: Spilt Bill.
Speaker 2: Correct, Correct, that's true.
Speaker 1: Now I've seen a very very enticing promo. Tell us
Speaker 1: your tell us what you're up to.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's like I'm doing a party himself. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: Wogan over there.
Speaker 1: I think you've got a funny story about.
Speaker 2: That's how they do it, isn't it.
Speaker 3: That's that funny story you mentioned with the researcher as
Speaker 3: god as if this show. As a researcher, I you
Speaker 3: saw this video on the Instagram.
Speaker 1: Basically tell us it is really funny and it is
Speaker 1: actually cool. But tell the people who may not have
Speaker 1: seen it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've released a comedy special. It's not on Netflix
Speaker 3: because they censored me. Okay, they wanted to censor me
Speaker 3: too hard. They said, you know, we love it. It's brilliant,
Speaker 3: this special that you've recorded yourself. But we want to
Speaker 3: cut some of brackets, all off the punchlines, all of
Speaker 3: the setups. We don't even want to list on the platform.
Speaker 3: We don't want to pay you because they don't believe
Speaker 3: in free speech.
Speaker 1: You're too right wing for a Netflix.
Speaker 2: I'm just too right on.
Speaker 3: I think they just said, no way, man, you're telling
Speaker 3: the truth that we don't like truth tellers.
Speaker 2: That to extent.
Speaker 1: They hate it.
Speaker 3: They bottled it, and so I said, all right, I'm
Speaker 3: taking it back, and they said, well, we didn't have it,
Speaker 3: so you're not taking it back.
Speaker 2: But I said, I'm going to put it out myself once.
Speaker 3: I've explored several other streaming platform avenues which yielded similar results,
Speaker 3: and so I'm putting out myself. I'm putting out on
Speaker 3: my website for sale rather than on YouTube for free.
Speaker 3: But also because my feeling is any dumb ass bozo
Speaker 3: can just call them call it a comedy special now
Speaker 3: and put out a YouTube video. But when we were younger, Brett,
Speaker 3: this is me and you the only way to get
Speaker 3: comedy special in our exactly of England was on DVD. Yes,
Speaker 3: that was what a comedy special was. And only the
Speaker 3: best comedians in the country got the opportunity to have
Speaker 3: a DVD.
Speaker 2: And so I made my own DVD.
Speaker 3: But I only made one, and I hid it in
Speaker 3: a charity shop in London, and so it literally is
Speaker 3: one of one. There will only ever be one made.
Speaker 3: It's quite expensive to make a DVD day that turns
Speaker 3: out the software is not available. It was an absolute nightmare,
Speaker 3: and the production company who made the special did it
Speaker 3: and then had sent me quite a big bill to
Speaker 3: have done it.
Speaker 2: I made the cover myself.
Speaker 3: I made it look like all those old like Jimmy
Speaker 3: Cargids or whatever, scratching my head holding a microphone, and
Speaker 3: I called it live humor. But it's the same show.
Speaker 3: And someone went it was in a charity shop in Well.
Speaker 3: I won't give it away. There's loads of clues if
Speaker 3: you want to look at the it has been got
Speaker 3: now though, Oh it's been found. Someone got it in
Speaker 3: ninety minutes. So my debut DVD sold out in just
Speaker 3: ninety minutes. That's success.
Speaker 1: You said that they got it or happened?
Speaker 2: Oh thank I was so relieved. When I was I
Speaker 2: wanted to.
Speaker 3: I pitched it to a few charity shops because I
Speaker 3: didn't want to just do it gorilla and then have
Speaker 3: them find it and put it in the bin thinking
Speaker 3: it was a bomb. So I had to email some
Speaker 3: charity shops and say for this, because also we had
Speaker 3: to film in there for me putting it in there,
Speaker 3: and lots few of them were replying like we just
Speaker 3: don't have the manpower to deal with the stampede and
Speaker 3: the bum that's going to come. And I had to
Speaker 3: be like, I really can't stress enough. I'm not who
Speaker 3: you think.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're expecting for that.
Speaker 3: And then I was so I kept saying to this
Speaker 3: lovely guy Nick at the I mean that might give
Speaker 3: there's a bit of a spoiler. If you know someone
Speaker 3: called nicky roll the charity shop in London, then you've
Speaker 3: just found out where it is.
Speaker 2: But I said to this.
Speaker 3: Guy, look, I wouldn't expect anyone coming in too soon,
Speaker 3: but you know the maybe you never know. And when
Speaker 3: the person did go in after ninety minutes, what was
Speaker 3: a relief is they said there were two other people
Speaker 3: in the shop at the time looking for it. But
Speaker 3: Nick had hidden it somewhere else in the shop, and
Speaker 3: so that was pretty cool that that felt good because
Speaker 3: I was like, one, I was relieved someone even got
Speaker 3: it on. I thought, may maybe it would take a week,
Speaker 3: like someone might realize pop in there after work after
Speaker 3: a week or something. But yeah, for someone to go
Speaker 3: in and other people be looking for it, I was like, Ah,
Speaker 3: thank god, thank god. Now that that level of hype
Speaker 3: is not currently translating in the sales.
Speaker 1: Numbers, so I just want to verify you really need
Speaker 1: to get make a lot of sales to pay for
Speaker 1: this one that.
Speaker 3: I haven't paid off the DVD, yeah, let alone filming
Speaker 3: the special itself, which is way more expensive. The DVD
Speaker 3: software is still burdening my profit margins.
Speaker 1: The thing I was most impressive was the physical hard
Speaker 1: cover of the DVD. I don't know how you did that.
Speaker 1: Where did you get that?
Speaker 3: So you have to buy one hundred of them, loads
Speaker 3: of them for one DVD. So I just made it
Speaker 3: myself on Canva, the free online photoshop.
Speaker 1: My neighbor morin news is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all pretty pritty makeshift stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I just bought a bunch of empty DVD
Speaker 3: cases on Amazon.
Speaker 1: What you're doing with the leftover with the cases? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can have one. Where did you film it? Especially
Speaker 1: Wilton's Music Hall? Nice?
Speaker 2: It's in East London.
Speaker 3: I think it's the oldest music hall working music hall
Speaker 3: in England and it's so beautiful. It's mostly used for
Speaker 3: weddings and like actual orchestral concerts. And then I sort
Speaker 3: of sullied it with one night of comedy.
Speaker 1: Did you do two shows? Record?
Speaker 2: Two shows?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How did it all go? Actually?
Speaker 3: No, it was good, it was well, it was really good.
Speaker 3: The first record it was that classic thing of that
Speaker 3: you your I would find that your American listeners weren't
Speaker 3: understand where they were too hyped in that first record
Speaker 3: and so they were like clapping setups and I was like,
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up, this is this is timing. And
Speaker 3: then in the second record they were a little bit
Speaker 3: too British.
Speaker 2: They were a little bit.
Speaker 3: More reserved, being like it's pretty good and we have
Speaker 3: kind of spliced the two records together and you couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: I'd say, they're like, wow, this crowd really liked that one,
Speaker 3: and they thought that one was okay.
Speaker 1: They really liked this really funny. If you mix up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's also a bit of a discrepancy in smoke
Speaker 3: levels because it turns out we didn't have remote control
Speaker 3: of the Hayes machine until showed two. So so your
Speaker 3: friend of mine, Stuart Law's had to keep running back
Speaker 3: and changing the smoke live in the moment without anyone
Speaker 3: seeing in the first record. And it also meant that
Speaker 3: lots of that footage is unusable because I'm through thick haze.
Speaker 3: But you know that, maybe that's sort of the main
Speaker 3: reason that Netflix and various others were like, what the
Speaker 3: fuck is this experimental comedy show? Yeah, fun comedy, but
Speaker 3: we like, yeah, we fucking we got it. We did it?
Speaker 2: Was Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I've not done a special to this day yet,
Speaker 1: but I'm always I'm very aware of like, God, do
Speaker 1: you only have that one night? And like are you like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got it, We've got everything I wanted to say,
Speaker 1: and we captured it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah the show.
Speaker 3: The good thing about me is that I am pretty
Speaker 3: consistently robotic, so I'll be loose in the moment and
Speaker 3: stuff and that happens. But in terms of the material, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I think there's one or two bits in
Speaker 3: the show where We've literally put the audio of me
Speaker 3: saying it from one gig over the visuals of me
Speaker 3: saying it any other, and it matches perfectly because that's
Speaker 3: how I deliver bits, and that well, that is it,
Speaker 3: because it was a bang in the middle of the tour.
Speaker 2: So I would have been so consistent at that point.
Speaker 3: If I'm doing any of that material now outside of
Speaker 3: the tour, for example, I'd be much looser and saying
Speaker 3: completely differently. But when I was like getting ready for
Speaker 3: that recording and going to nail it, I would have
Speaker 3: been like John mulaney, you know what I mean, Just
Speaker 3: like you know that tweet about John Elle from years ago.
Speaker 3: Every sentence, every word starts with the capital letter when
Speaker 3: he's I would have been like that, So it'd have
Speaker 3: been so consistent. I think that it was easy to
Speaker 3: just go all right, your mouth matches up completely with
Speaker 3: both of them.
Speaker 1: Reece, James, you have died again, but because it's his
Speaker 1: judgment day No, sorry, right, I've remembered what the premise
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 2: Keep this, keep that you got to keep keep this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right. I like people to realize just how well
Speaker 1: and like the same same as you're very robotic. The
Speaker 1: way I do this podcast exactly. You could use we
Speaker 1: record this podcast twice. Yeah, and you cut together both
Speaker 1: and you have died again because it is judgment day.
Speaker 1: Do you see what I mean? Now?
Speaker 4: Now ye feel it? Now you stand on the edge
Speaker 4: of heaven and hell. You must tell me the best
Speaker 4: and worst thing that you did in this lifetime and
Speaker 4: answer some questions about film. In the end, I will
Speaker 4: decide whether you get to go to heaven or hell. Simple, really,
Speaker 4: So tell me what is the best and worst thing
Speaker 4: you did in this life?
Speaker 3: Reece James fantastic Emmy Award winning actor Brett Goldstein, Absolutely
Speaker 3: beautiful stuff there. I best thing quite recently. It was
Speaker 3: my niece's fourth birthday party and I got a T shirt.
Speaker 3: I got lots of gifts, but one of the things
Speaker 3: I got was a T shirt for myself that was like,
Speaker 3: you can get these T shirts made that are kind
Speaker 3: of like these old wrestling style T shirts where you
Speaker 3: send like five pictures of someone and they build them
Speaker 3: into these like this T shirt where they're like edges
Speaker 3: of these pictures are overlapping and it fills the whole
Speaker 3: T shirt and then in this cool text it says
Speaker 3: the person's name at the top, and so I got
Speaker 3: one made of my niece of all these cool pictures
Speaker 3: of her in cool outfits, like fancy dress stuff.
Speaker 2: So she's all over the T shirt like that.
Speaker 3: And then I just turned up to the party wearing
Speaker 3: it and hadn't told anyone. And when I got there,
Speaker 3: mainly it was for sort of like my brother and
Speaker 3: my sister in law and my parents. I thought they
Speaker 3: would think it was cool. And when I got there
Speaker 3: my niece, at first she was just just so overwhelmed
Speaker 3: with the birthday party and excited that she looked at
Speaker 3: the T shirt and she went, that's my name, and
Speaker 3: then she ran off. And then later on I went look, look,
Speaker 3: and then she went, I've got that dress. No, no,
Speaker 3: that's you. And she went I'm sure I've got that dress.
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, do you think I'm wearing
Speaker 3: this dress?
Speaker 1: This is a picture.
Speaker 2: And anyway, she left. Later on she.
Speaker 3: Had understood what the T shirt was about, and it
Speaker 3: was like everyone loved it, and you know, strangers were
Speaker 3: coming up to me being like, where did you get
Speaker 3: this T shirt? This is the coolest thing ever. That's
Speaker 3: such a cool uncle gift. Then later in the day
Speaker 3: in amongst her other presence. When we were doing presents,
Speaker 3: she opened a T shirt that was her size, that
Speaker 3: was the same thing but of me, and then she
Speaker 3: put it on and she said.
Speaker 2: I want to wear this forever. Now that was high risk.
Speaker 3: Now, I thought, what would happen is that she would say, haha,
Speaker 3: I'm never wearing that, You're a loser, and that would
Speaker 3: be very funny for everyone. And I was quite happy
Speaker 3: to provide that moment. When she said I want to
Speaker 3: wear this forever, I was like, well, this is the
Speaker 3: best thing I've ever done. Now, Brett, the worst thing
Speaker 3: I've ever done is I made a four year old's
Speaker 3: birthday all about me.
Speaker 2: What No, just really took that. I really took it.
Speaker 2: Everyone was talking about me all day.
Speaker 1: Really. Part of the story that I like the most
Speaker 1: is that everyone was coming over to you going, wow,
Speaker 1: where did you get that shirt? As if you bought
Speaker 1: it from Zara?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Also there were people coming up to be saying are
Speaker 3: you like in the family, And I was like, no,
Speaker 3: just a huge fan. I just kept saying no, I've
Speaker 3: just been seen her around. She's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I like this dress she wears, work her away up
Speaker 1: to it. That's very nice.
Speaker 3: I did tell her that everyone was wearing them. I said,
Speaker 3: it's not just me, they're all wearing them out there.
Speaker 3: That's a big risk because she couldn't freak her out.
Speaker 3: It could make her cry and scream. But actually she
Speaker 3: you know, four, I think you're just a bit like
Speaker 3: of course they are.
Speaker 2: I'm cool.
Speaker 1: You did make it all about you, but in a
Speaker 1: way that like, it's very sweet that she liked her
Speaker 1: in the T shirt of you. It did turn out great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god for that.
Speaker 1: But if you hadn't made the four year old's birthday
Speaker 1: about you, I mean, listen, were there any other stars
Speaker 1: of Mark the Week at this party? Come on?
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, just a bunch of people with jack real jobs,
Speaker 3: dig grass.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I haven't decided whether to send you to
Speaker 1: Heaven nor Hell yet. Based on that, let me consider, well,
Speaker 1: we discussed some films that might make my decision easier.
Speaker 1: First thing, you're back on Earth people or whatever. What
Speaker 1: is the film?
Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to go back and listen and just
Speaker 3: figure out the exact moment your heart went out of
Speaker 3: this podcast, not this record, I mean the whole thing,
Speaker 3: at the moment you just went, oh, yeah, I keep
Speaker 3: ticking over with that.
Speaker 1: How dare you? I am invested as I have always
Speaker 1: been because I love it. What is the film that
Speaker 1: you saw when you were too young to see it
Speaker 1: that affected you the most?
Speaker 2: Eight legged Freaks? Oh really remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? With David Arquette.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mostly focused on the spiders, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was distracted by the giant.
Speaker 3: I think I was probably about ten, and that's quite
Speaker 3: old to be affected by that film, but I think
Speaker 3: it was more just like and also if I watched
Speaker 3: the trailer again today and is it a comedy? Was
Speaker 3: it presented as a comedy when it came out? Just
Speaker 3: like an out and out? This is so dumb trying.
Speaker 1: Like hey, leg it freaks, eight legged freaks like like
Speaker 1: snakes late.
Speaker 2: It's filmed like a skate video.
Speaker 3: Like the style, it's like, it's like it's been made
Speaker 3: by bad Maijera.
Speaker 2: It's so weird.
Speaker 3: And it's but when I saw it, because it was
Speaker 3: like it was it wasn't like three D or anything,
Speaker 3: but it was kind of using massive giant six with
Speaker 3: spiders like coming out the screen was like, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't actually three D. It was it was a two
Speaker 3: D attempt at three D fear factor, and I would
Speaker 3: have seen it in the cinema and just been then
Speaker 3: just like every time I close my eyes for a week,
Speaker 3: that's all I would have seen. It's just huge six
Speaker 3: foot spiders.
Speaker 1: Are you still scared of giant spiders?
Speaker 3: Of giant spiders? Yeah, i'd say that. You know how
Speaker 3: some people like would say that I've got a fear
Speaker 3: of drowning, but yeah, that's not a fear. Yeah, everyone has,
Speaker 3: that's default. Everyone has that. That doesn't count of course.
Speaker 3: You Oh you don't like the idea of drowning, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: show me someone who loves it. So yeah, big spot,
Speaker 3: big huge spiders. Yeah, I don't think people like that.
Speaker 3: What about a spider as big as my hands?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll freak me out.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't be petrified, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: happy about it.
Speaker 1: What about spider this big?
Speaker 3: Actually, literally the one what you just described. The other day,
Speaker 3: there was one at our house and then it was
Speaker 3: pointed out by my girlfriend and then I just picked
Speaker 3: it up by one leg and just walked to the
Speaker 3: door and just like put it outside and I turned
Speaker 3: around and she was looking at me in a way
Speaker 3: she said she had never looked at me before in
Speaker 3: eleven years, like wow, finally ready to marry you. She
Speaker 3: was like, I'm finally ready to have sex. That was
Speaker 3: you fine, warned me down, and you're out of the
Speaker 3: friend zone. She honestly looked at me like, yeah, that
Speaker 3: this is not the man. I know, how have you
Speaker 3: done this? And I was like, I guess, I guess
Speaker 3: it turns out I disassociated about four years ago, and
Speaker 3: so now I'm scared of nothing.
Speaker 1: You're like, I could drown. I could actually drown.
Speaker 3: You know. Not long ago. I was on a plane,
Speaker 3: I think I think twenty twenty three. I was on
Speaker 3: a plane. There was some really bad and I was
Speaker 3: on my own. Yeah, it's a really bad turbulence and
Speaker 3: you know, and there's some really bad turbleance just the
Speaker 3: bit where it dips in your stomach thoughs and you
Speaker 3: think was probably it. I felt so euphoric, man, I
Speaker 3: really gave over to the powerlessness of it. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, all right, yeah, fine, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think I'm going to phone anyone, didn't
Speaker 3: text anyone. I just thought, yeah, just let's just go yes,
Speaker 3: I've had that experience. It was it was such a
Speaker 3: good feeling to have no control whatsoever to such an
Speaker 3: extent that you're like, oh, thank God for that, and God,
Speaker 3: I've got no control over any of this, because if
Speaker 3: I did, I'd be thinking.
Speaker 2: God, I'm so stressed. I've got to do something about it.
Speaker 3: And then I realized, oh, that's the whole problem with me,
Speaker 3: is the way I'm given control to really use it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's I'm not a pilot. That's the root of all
Speaker 3: my problems all these years.
Speaker 1: If you could play one character in a film, which
Speaker 1: one would it be?
Speaker 3: The little boy in love? Actually who plays the drums?
Speaker 3: Yeah that feels right.
Speaker 1: Isn't he a grieving, grieving little boy?
Speaker 2: His mum's dead? Yeah, his mom is dead.
Speaker 1: That's your dream?
Speaker 3: Well, how much of that playing a part? And you
Speaker 3: said if I could play a part?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, yeah, I mean, I guess you're it's
Speaker 1: like what you want to show people you're range you
Speaker 1: could do, like I just know, I think more.
Speaker 3: I interpreted this is like if I could have played
Speaker 3: a part. So if I when I was the age
Speaker 3: of the boy in that film, if I could have
Speaker 3: now In's Dead. Yeah, I would have liked to have
Speaker 3: been that role in that film at that age in
Speaker 3: the year it came out, and have had that as
Speaker 3: something I did forever. And now I'm not saying I
Speaker 3: want to be that part because he kisses a child. No,
Speaker 3: like I said I want to be You've already made
Speaker 3: me sound weird in the woods. What I'm saying is,
Speaker 3: when I was the age that it was appropriate to
Speaker 3: play that part.
Speaker 2: I would like to have done that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. What is the worst date or time you've
Speaker 1: ever had a film?
Speaker 3: I kind of got one and a half to the
Speaker 3: half is I went to see a preview of or
Speaker 3: it was part of Sun Dance in London, I think
Speaker 3: of Mike Bbigli's film. I think it was with me,
Speaker 3: and afterwards Jimmy Carr was doing a Q and A
Speaker 3: with him and I went on maybe a third date
Speaker 3: to that, and my brother and his partner who they've
Speaker 3: been together for ages, was seeing something just after. They
Speaker 3: were in this bar nearby and were saying like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're going on this date, Well, like, if you want
Speaker 3: to after the film, we've got some time.
Speaker 2: If you want to come and introduce her and have
Speaker 2: a drink.
Speaker 3: With us, and then we watched this film, and we
Speaker 3: watched the Q and A, and the Q and A
Speaker 3: started with Jimmy Carr saying, well, there we have it.
Speaker 3: Maybe the worst date movie in history. And it is
Speaker 3: quite bleak because it's kind of lots of it's about
Speaker 3: how it's not right, you know, it's never going to
Speaker 3: be right, but also just like it's about the break
Speaker 3: of our relationship effectively quite a serious relationship. And then
Speaker 3: there was a bit where we were leaving that cinema
Speaker 3: and it was like I hadn't mentioned that my brother
Speaker 3: was maybe in this bar, but I could easily. She
Speaker 3: was like, what should we do now? She was like
Speaker 3: where should we go now? Should go for a drink?
Speaker 3: And I very like I just saw myself walking past
Speaker 3: this bar, going yeah, maybe, and like getting to the
Speaker 3: tube and then going somewhere else in London, then texting
Speaker 3: my brother being like, oh sorry, we're a bit late
Speaker 3: or whatever. So we've gone somewhere else and we went
Speaker 3: for dinner and then didn't speak really after that. So
Speaker 3: I said, I'm I'm not into this anymore. And I
Speaker 3: think it was that that I think the film ruined it.
Speaker 3: The other time is me and my current partner. I
Speaker 3: went to see Vice and it was just a horrible
Speaker 3: cinema experience, just based on the people around us. The
Speaker 3: guy in front of us kept getting a big handful
Speaker 3: of popcorn, putting his arm as high as he could
Speaker 3: above his head, opening his mouth underneath it, and one
Speaker 3: by one throughout the film so obnoxiously. His girlfriend next
Speaker 3: to him spent the whole film on her phone on
Speaker 3: full brightness. And then after i'day, after an hour and
Speaker 3: twenty minutes of the film, which is a film about
Speaker 3: Dick Cheney in which Dick is used as a name
Speaker 3: maybe one hundred and fifty thousand times, she looked up
Speaker 3: for the first time and someone went, Dick, come here,
Speaker 3: and she turned around and went Dick, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like fulling my hair out.
Speaker 3: Next to us was a guy explaining, an American guy
Speaker 3: explaining everything like it wasn't explained in the film to
Speaker 3: an English person next to him being like, so he's
Speaker 3: the vice president what that means is And it was
Speaker 3: just like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what a vice,
Speaker 3: I know what the word vice means.
Speaker 2: It was just then absolutely hideous experience that.
Speaker 3: But what's good is that you know, it didn't make
Speaker 3: me want to break up with my girlfriend, and she
Speaker 3: would have been even I'm an angry guy. And what
Speaker 3: I love about her is that she would have just
Speaker 3: been going fucking crazy when we left, that she would
Speaker 3: have been ranting so much. The words she'd have been
Speaker 3: using about them, she'd have been saying those troggler dietes,
Speaker 3: these knuckle draggers everywhere, I'm never going to the cinema
Speaker 3: on the set, and I'd have been like, yes, you
Speaker 3: and me are kindred spirits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will be all right with just stick just
Speaker 1: for you, just for you. That's nice, a bit horrible.
Speaker 1: If you could live in the world of one film,
Speaker 1: which would it be? Which film would it be? What world?
Speaker 1: In a film?
Speaker 3: I think the answer, I think the surface answer is
Speaker 3: Bruce all Mighty. But I don't know what I'd do,
Speaker 3: I thought, because then you're going to say, what would
Speaker 3: you do if you were Bruce all Mighty? And I
Speaker 3: don't have any kind of good answer other than what
Speaker 3: he does in the first ten minutes. He'd Yeah, he
Speaker 3: just like makes skirts go up, and he gets people
Speaker 3: to hand him free stuff, and he just does like
Speaker 3: the most basic teenage idea of playing God. So maybe
Speaker 3: the answer is my neighbor Totro instead. Maybe that's the
Speaker 3: world I want to be in. Wow, any studio ghibli
Speaker 3: thing I think would be a lovely world to be in.
Speaker 3: Am I enabled story. I like a big guy, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? I like a big guy. Like
Speaker 3: a hug from a really big guy. That feels fantastic
Speaker 3: to me, and it really makes when I think about it.
Speaker 3: And I've got a couple of friends that I grew
Speaker 3: up with who were like rugby guys, who are big, tough,
Speaker 3: hench guys. When they would hug me, I would feel fantastic,
Speaker 3: and then I would really understand my lack of appeal
Speaker 3: to anyone as someone who cannot contribute that. So when
Speaker 3: I watched the tour, I'm like, ye, I want to
Speaker 3: hug that guy. I want to hug him so bad
Speaker 3: and be enveloped by this big, soft, huge But he
Speaker 3: doesn't do anything in the film. He just chills out
Speaker 3: the whole time. And then when shit hits the fan
Speaker 3: because of him, he just goes, Oh, I don't worry.
Speaker 3: I got this mate who's a bus who's a cat.
Speaker 3: And then the cat comes along and sorts everything out,
Speaker 3: And obviously I want to be in the world because
Speaker 3: I want to go on the cat bus.
Speaker 1: You want to go on the cat bus and be
Speaker 1: hugged by a big fella?
Speaker 2: Be hugged by a big guy? Yeah? Yeah, you like
Speaker 2: a big guy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The big guy. Love hugging a big guy.
Speaker 2: Who's the Who's the biggest guy you've ever hugged with?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll tell you what. The main director producer of
Speaker 1: season two Shrinking is called Randall, and he is fucking huge.
Speaker 1: He's about eight foot two and he's so strong and
Speaker 1: you hug him and every home you hug him. It's
Speaker 1: a big hugger and he breaks three of your ribs
Speaker 1: every time you hug him. Yeah, but you leave a
Speaker 1: hug with him. I always leave a hug with him.
Speaker 1: But it's a feeling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's so warm, it's so nice and painful, but it's
Speaker 2: so good. I love you.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite children's film? Seems to be an
Speaker 1: expect this area. Do you mean just film? You're saying
Speaker 1: what's this word? You're saying children's film? There's loads I mean.
Speaker 1: I want to say School of Rock felt like it
Speaker 1: was pandering to you. And then I think too many
Speaker 1: people say it, there's obviously so many I'm going to
Speaker 1: go with toy story O twittery one. And the reason
Speaker 1: is that was the age.
Speaker 3: So I was like going crazy over getting buzz light
Speaker 3: Year for Christmas the year that he was sold out,
Speaker 3: because that was the year the film came out. It
Speaker 3: was like that was a huge deal at a very
Speaker 3: formative age. Also, I had a woody toy that I
Speaker 3: was obsessed with that now EVI, my niece, played with
Speaker 3: every day and loves. It's like the longevity of this
Speaker 3: is incredible. And then I thought about it and I
Speaker 3: was like, the premise, the premise is the perfect kids
Speaker 3: film premise. Your toys are alive. It's something that's probably
Speaker 3: in the imagination of every kid anyway. That's how you play.
Speaker 3: You imagine your toys are alive. And then a film
Speaker 3: just went what if they were every time you leave
Speaker 3: the room, they're alive. And then the impact it has
Speaker 3: on you when you go home after watching it, and
Speaker 3: how you try and sneak back into the room and
Speaker 3: see them hanging out with each other.
Speaker 2: Ah, what a what a beautiful film.
Speaker 1: The fact that ev plays with withy is like the
Speaker 1: end of Toy Story Free and I want to cry.
Speaker 1: Now I need a hug from a very big man.
Speaker 3: Exactly, you need a big guy. You got any big
Speaker 3: guys nearby?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Tatoro. Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Great. Yeah, that's like again, it's like something that kids
Speaker 3: are already doing when it taps into something like that's
Speaker 3: what a kid's imagination is already doing. Like, well, there
Speaker 3: was an imaginary friend film recently, wasn't there that was
Speaker 3: quite big if if ye, And that's again, it's just
Speaker 3: like hitting on that premise of just like that's already happening,
Speaker 3: so perfect.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you didn't think you would
Speaker 1: like that you ended up loving.
Speaker 3: I've got to The first one is twenty one Jump Street. Yes, great,
Speaker 3: So I think it's fantastic. I think it's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3: It's one of the great mainstream comedy films. And I
Speaker 3: think I just had a bit of a bee in
Speaker 3: my bonnet about mainstream comedy films being crap for some
Speaker 3: pretentious reason that when I then came to be trying
Speaker 3: to write a mainstream comedy film, I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I've got to go and watch all of them, and
Speaker 3: then I was like, Oh, these are all fucking amazing.
Speaker 3: They're really funny, and they really hit everything they need
Speaker 3: to hit, and everyone's brilliant in them, and I just
Speaker 3: it just works so well.
Speaker 2: The humor is so well judged. Twenty two Jump Streaks
Speaker 2: also great.
Speaker 3: I think it's because seems to come out in quick
Speaker 3: succession that I thought, yeah, okay, yeah, I've had enough
Speaker 3: of Jump Streets for a bit. But I hadn't even
Speaker 3: seen it at the time. And it is really funny
Speaker 3: and it's fantastic, and their chemistry is amazing. Channing Tatum's
Speaker 3: really funny in it, and we didn't necessarily know that yet.
Speaker 1: He's tremendous.
Speaker 2: It's just great.
Speaker 3: And I just must have been in a sort of
Speaker 3: like probably in a bit of a RTI era, a
Speaker 3: bit of a Famoy era, where you just like misinterpret
Speaker 3: what Studie is actually getting at and think he's saying
Speaker 3: on the surface, everything ship, so therefore you must agree
Speaker 3: that everything's ship or whatever. And then you get a
Speaker 3: bit better at comedy and you go, oh, no, it's
Speaker 3: not what he's getting at all. That's not what this means.
Speaker 3: There's a whole layer of something going on here. He's
Speaker 3: getting at I wish I had more money. But that
Speaker 3: is what everyone's getting at, Brett. That's what every joke means,
Speaker 3: and that's for the listeners. Every joke means, God, I
Speaker 3: wish I have more money. That's the subtext of everything
Speaker 3: and every bit of art.
Speaker 2: Ever, Okay, wish I have more money?
Speaker 1: Is that what toy story is? Yep?
Speaker 3: Okay, no further questions. I don't stand by this point
Speaker 3: at all. I don't think that's saying but I don't know.
Speaker 3: The other one I was going to say is BlackBerry.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I actually thought I thought i'd like because I love
Speaker 3: Glen Howiton. I knew it would be good, and I
Speaker 3: like the team behind it. I just am so sick
Speaker 3: of business origin story films, and I think it's such
Speaker 3: a horrible genre to exist.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The Social Network is one of my favorite films of
Speaker 3: all time. But things like The Social Network and even
Speaker 3: The Founder, which I like less, and even Steve Jobs,
Speaker 3: which are like even less, is like they make sense
Speaker 3: existing to me and telling these business origin stories because
Speaker 3: they have had cultural.
Speaker 2: Impact on the world.
Speaker 3: They have fundamentally, those companies changed the world forever. We
Speaker 3: now live different lives to what we would have done
Speaker 3: if these companies didn't exist. I don't need to know
Speaker 3: about beanie babies. Beanie babies have not impacted anything. They're
Speaker 3: a trend in the nineties and no one gives a
Speaker 3: fuck about anymore. I don't need to Tetris has not
Speaker 3: changed how elections work. It's not a criticism of the films.
Speaker 3: It's of the premise of the concept of making these films.
Speaker 3: And so I thought, ah, here we go BlackBerry, like,
Speaker 3: that's not that significant, and then you watch it and
Speaker 3: you go, oh, it's a parody of those films, and
Speaker 3: it's played purely for laughs, a bit like Seinfeld's pop
Speaker 3: tart film. It's just a parody of those things, played
Speaker 3: purely for gags. I think BlackBerry does it in a
Speaker 3: way that suits the style of comedy I like a
Speaker 3: bit more unfrosted. I think is good, and I think
Speaker 3: was unfairly reviewed based on people's opinions of Seinfeld, but
Speaker 3: I think it was is really good. But BlackBerry does
Speaker 3: it in such a classy, cool way. And Glen Howilton's
Speaker 3: just at a ten from the get go. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: like he's like Dennis Reynolds when Dennis is full of
Speaker 3: rage the whole way through.
Speaker 1: He's like your girlfriend at the cinema.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And as you know that, what is the single most
Speaker 1: erotic moment in a film? James?
Speaker 2: I struggle. I struggled with this.
Speaker 1: Why is that? To know?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I even googled like erotic moments in films and it
Speaker 3: said are you sure you want safe?
Speaker 2: Search off?
Speaker 3: And I was googling it, and all these films that
Speaker 3: came up, as I've never seen any of these, so
Speaker 3: I must have just sort of passed by all these
Speaker 3: pos actually erotic things. I think the things I find
Speaker 3: erotic are unresolved sexual tension. So the moment it's resolved,
Speaker 3: I stopped finding it that interesting or erotic in on camera.
Speaker 3: Obviously in life it's much more erotic once it's when
Speaker 3: you start resolving it. So did you think that, actually,
Speaker 3: I like the unresolved I've made.
Speaker 2: I've made my piece of unresolved actually.
Speaker 1: So like in the mood for Love, that would be
Speaker 1: a type of vibes.
Speaker 2: If I'd seen that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that is unresolved to me because I've
Speaker 3: never seen it. But things like so this is so
Speaker 3: I'll give you two complete opposites. This isn't necessarily unresolved.
Speaker 3: In the film road Trip, there's a bit where a
Speaker 3: really geeky guy is just lying in bed with this
Speaker 3: a slightly larger lady. Yeah, and then she just sort
Speaker 3: of coming on to him. They're both in their underwear,
Speaker 3: and I think you don't even really see. Then it
Speaker 3: just cuts and he's walking out, and then he's like
Speaker 3: whistling and everyone's cheering him, and that's sort of it,
Speaker 3: and it's just like, yeah, okay, I would have seen
Speaker 3: that when I was probably twelve, thought, oh my god,
Speaker 3: she wants to have sex with him, and she's in
Speaker 3: full control of this, and that is unlike any other
Speaker 3: scene I've ever seen in any other film because I'm twelve.
Speaker 3: And the other one complete opposite end of the spectrum,
Speaker 3: the way that they imply that they've had sex in
Speaker 3: before sunrise by simply they go into the park, and
Speaker 3: when they leave the park, the T shirt she had
Speaker 3: on under her dress is no longer there, and it's
Speaker 3: never mentioned, even though she spent the whole film saying
Speaker 3: I don't just want to be another story of some
Speaker 3: American guys hookups on his travels, and it's never explicitly
Speaker 3: said until the next film that they did have sex,
Speaker 3: and she's just not wearing that T shirt anymore after
Speaker 3: they go to the park, and I was like, absolutely
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fucking great that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that shows the duality of man. You know,
Speaker 3: I've got one's pretty basic, then one's really subtle.
Speaker 1: What a classy guy? Which film? Which film you don't
Speaker 1: care about as a whole, has a single sequence within
Speaker 1: it that you love?
Speaker 3: Five hundred days of summer expectation versus reality.
Speaker 1: Pow pow power ten points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it's the It's such a good bit of filmmaking.
Speaker 1: It's so depressing and brilliant.
Speaker 3: That secret and the rest of the film, you know,
Speaker 3: everyone knows by now has its problems. I think I
Speaker 3: would have I would have watched it when I was
Speaker 3: sixteen and thought it was mind blowing it, But having
Speaker 3: watched it since I you know, it's a bit. You know,
Speaker 3: it's the classic manic pixie dream girl type criticisms, isn't
Speaker 3: it of that film?
Speaker 2: Very written by a man? Type stuff?
Speaker 3: But that scene feels really, it feels really empathetic, and
Speaker 3: it feels like it really understands and how its unrequited
Speaker 3: feelings are out of how it goes so often, and
Speaker 3: it's just so true to so many experiences that I
Speaker 3: and everyone else have had. Yeah, and it starts so subtly,
Speaker 3: so like it starts with him, So if you don't
Speaker 3: know it, listeners, they just like split screen him arriving
Speaker 3: at this party and his expectation of how it will go.
Speaker 3: It's a party with Zodaschanel, who he's no longer with
Speaker 3: but is still in love with, and it's her party,
Speaker 3: and it's how the party will go in his mind
Speaker 3: versus how it goes in reality. And it starts so
Speaker 3: subtly that when he arrives, it's just little bits of
Speaker 3: like the way she answers the door, there's slightly less
Speaker 3: enthusiasm in the hello than he expected, and it just
Speaker 3: grows into and stuff like that. He hands her a
Speaker 3: gift that's really thoughtful gift and an expectation. She's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's so sweet, and in reality goes, no,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have, buddy, kind of thing, and it grows
Speaker 3: and grows to a point where you know he's imagining
Speaker 3: them stood kind of on this balcony, you're looking over
Speaker 3: at the city like really flirting and in reality stood
Speaker 3: there on his own drinking a bit. And then he
Speaker 3: turns around the looks and she's showing her engagement ring
Speaker 3: to someone else, and ah, ah god, how many times
Speaker 3: have we been there? Well know about you, but hundreds?
Speaker 3: So sorry, what a great scene, A great scene.
Speaker 1: You're right, So I really remember that very I've only
Speaker 1: seen that film once, and I remember that so strongly.
Speaker 1: It's such a it's a very sad sequence, very well done.
Speaker 3: What is the film that stayed with you the longest
Speaker 3: after seeing it? Rece About Time. I love About Time,
Speaker 3: me too. Really, I didn't know until today that it
Speaker 3: was quite critically pard. I've watched it probably four or
Speaker 3: five times, and I'd never looked up the reaction, and
Speaker 3: I think that says something to me about not looking
Speaker 3: up reactions to things.
Speaker 2: But my family love it as well. All my family
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 3: I think I watched it because my dad watched it
Speaker 3: not knowing what it was about, very soon after his
Speaker 3: dad died and he lost his mind, and then so
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'll watch it then, and then
Speaker 3: I lost my mind, and then I watched it again
Speaker 3: recently lost on mine, crying again, and then today because
Speaker 3: it's got quite complicated time traveling it just so I
Speaker 3: was one hundred percent familiar with the premise, I reread
Speaker 3: the plot and I cried again.
Speaker 1: Just reading it.
Speaker 3: It's just so it has a big it has like
Speaker 3: a twist in it that's like you actually don't see coming.
Speaker 2: It has such a lovely resolution.
Speaker 3: Today, I mean like, I get criticized by friends of
Speaker 3: mine who aren't into films and stuff for my picking
Speaker 3: a part of plot holes and things, and this one,
Speaker 3: according to the critical response listed on Wikipedia, has lots
Speaker 3: of plot holes that I have never once acknowledged or noticed.
Speaker 3: And I am like films in which people love and
Speaker 3: never slag of plottholes. I will go like, yeah, but
Speaker 3: this does makes sense because of this, and people go
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I'm trying to have a laugh, and
Speaker 3: on this one, I'm like, right, okay, So I clearly
Speaker 3: just have huge confirmation bias. I like it, so I
Speaker 3: don't care, but it's just a I mean, if you
Speaker 3: haven't seen it, it's very rich a Curtis and it's
Speaker 3: very sincere. But it's just I can't really hack family
Speaker 3: like emotional family and like sort of pride based things.
Speaker 3: I think I've said this on a previous episode of This.
Speaker 3: Any more time someone's proud of someone, I can't hack it.
Speaker 3: Like someone realizes your dad a big guy. No, such
Speaker 3: a shame, I'd love him to be a big guy.
Speaker 1: Is he proud of you?
Speaker 2: Oh A big time? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: It's not because of don't try and therapies me, now, mate,
Speaker 3: It's not because I've lack any of.
Speaker 1: Her I'm saying, I hate I'm glad that that's the answer.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that.
Speaker 2: It's just like in Lady Bird.
Speaker 3: It's like whenever someone realizes in a film that their
Speaker 3: parents are just doing it for the first time too,
Speaker 3: and you know they will once me and all that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. I don't know why they does something
Speaker 3: to me that, and I don't know why, Like at
Speaker 3: the end of Lady Bird always makes me cry when
Speaker 3: it cuts between her driving and her mum driving and
Speaker 3: basically being like we're all just the same.
Speaker 2: Oh God, I can't act that stuff.
Speaker 3: And so About Time sticks with me, and I could
Speaker 3: watch it again and again and again.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll watch it very soon.
Speaker 1: About Time made me cry. There's three things that Richard
Speaker 1: Kurtis has done and really destroyed me. One is about time.
Speaker 1: The other is the end of have you ever seen
Speaker 1: the Doctor Who episode that he wrote where it's say no,
Speaker 1: it's the idea is and it's the same id I
Speaker 1: think he used in Yesterday. It's about Vincent van Go
Speaker 1: whatever you say, how have you pronounce the name? They
Speaker 1: go back in time and they have like an adventure
Speaker 1: with him and blah blah blah. But at the end
Speaker 1: of it, what they do and they say, we shouldn't
Speaker 1: do this, but we should because he never knew what
Speaker 1: effect his paintings had. You know, when he died, no
Speaker 1: one cared about his art. So they take Vincent to
Speaker 1: the present and they take him to a museum, so
Speaker 1: he gets to see in a museum all these people
Speaker 1: experiencing his art and being moved by it. And it's
Speaker 1: so moving seeing him see like what it worked? You know,
Speaker 1: it had an effect. And then they take him back
Speaker 1: in time, thinking that that might have sort of fixed it,
Speaker 1: and he still kills himself. It's so fucking wow. It's
Speaker 1: fucking I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2: It's really something that doesn't sound very Richard Curtious to me.
Speaker 1: Is the gift who still gets the gift of seeing
Speaker 1: what his he gets.
Speaker 2: So the point is.
Speaker 1: That what he was mentally not fully you know, he's still.
Speaker 2: It doesn't just it wasn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't kill himself because no one liked his his flowers.
Speaker 3: He killed himself because he had depression. Yes, that's the message.
Speaker 3: Serious mental health can't be fixed with a retweet.
Speaker 1: That's yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was hard of hearing. I thought you were going
Speaker 2: to say that.
Speaker 3: They brought him to present day, showed him a gallery
Speaker 3: where everyone loved his artwork, and then some darlks came
Speaker 3: in and killed him. Anyway, I thought he's going to
Speaker 3: be like, oh no, it's doctor who. We got to
Speaker 3: exterminate this guy I've never close.
Speaker 1: And then in Yesterday he has this scene. Have you
Speaker 1: seen Yesterday in the film where beats don't exist? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have this scene where he visits John Lennon, who
Speaker 1: didn't die because he wasn't in the Beatles. It's very moving.
Speaker 1: I find that very very moving. God, damn it, that's
Speaker 1: moving stuff.
Speaker 2: He knows what I want.
Speaker 3: Died a gig in a in a forest. It's an
Speaker 3: amazing gig. This family just built this like theater amphitheater
Speaker 3: in their garden effectively, and I went and did this
Speaker 3: gig and I went on stage and it was like
Speaker 3: a pretty good gig, but I was getting sort of
Speaker 3: like put off by the audience lightly. When I came
Speaker 3: off stage, Simon Amstell was headlining it and he said,
Speaker 3: how was it? I said, yes, good, but I think
Speaker 3: Richard Curtis is that front row center and he went, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I meant to tell you Richard Curtis is coming back.
Speaker 3: And I was like what, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm friends with them, so they're here to watch me basically,
Speaker 3: and I was like right. And then me and Lou
Speaker 3: Sanders were sort of stranded trying to get to the
Speaker 3: train station after it was waiting for this taxi that
Speaker 3: clearly was ever going to come. And then a car
Speaker 3: generously stopped and pulled up to say, we'll give you
Speaker 3: a lift to the station, and it was Richard Curtis.
Speaker 3: Because he is addicted to charity, he will he will
Speaker 3: not pass up an opportunity to help someone in need.
Speaker 3: And there was a child in heed right there, and
Speaker 3: so did he tell you were brilliant they drove Yeah,
Speaker 3: well yeah, I mean he was like, okay, yeah, very
Speaker 3: well done, young man. I mean it was just sort
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, good, there was a good night of comedy.
Speaker 3: I mean it was very noncommittal stuff. But you know,
Speaker 3: I hadn't had absolute blind it was fine, so I
Speaker 3: wouldn't expect I wouldn't expect it to be as cup of tea. Also,
Speaker 3: I think I was ranting about like getting on the
Speaker 3: property ladder and stuff, and he was probably looking at me, like,
Speaker 3: what is he talking about?
Speaker 1: What is the film that made you feel better about
Speaker 1: the world?
Speaker 2: Hear me out, jackass.
Speaker 3: What is more pure than just trying to impress your
Speaker 3: mates and trying to one up your mates for a laugh?
Speaker 3: Nothing else, There is nothing else to it. Let's be
Speaker 3: as silly and as crazy as possible so that my
Speaker 3: friends laugh, and then being like okay, fine, well I'll
Speaker 3: do this then, and also going nuts and doing something
Speaker 3: equally crazy. It's just mates having a laugh basically at
Speaker 3: their own expense. That makes me feel like the world
Speaker 3: is actually good. Most good films make me think the
Speaker 3: world is bad because most good films highlight something kind
Speaker 3: of intrinsically sad or bad about the world, even if
Speaker 3: they have.
Speaker 2: A nice resolution.
Speaker 3: I don't leave being particularly uplifted because something bad has
Speaker 3: to have got me there, Jackass. The bad stuff is
Speaker 3: put a toy car up. My bum had to go
Speaker 3: to the hospital. But everyone found it really funny, and
Speaker 3: it doesn't make me go the world is full of
Speaker 3: cars up, But it makes me just go, yes it is.
Speaker 3: There's some crazy people out there and they exactly exactly
Speaker 3: people like the loads of you know, friendship. That makes
Speaker 3: me think about friendship more than other films, Jackass, more
Speaker 3: than films about friendship.
Speaker 1: You can have that.
Speaker 2: It impresses me. Yeah, Okay, who which who?
Speaker 1: Which is your favorite couple in a film? Who are
Speaker 1: your favorite cup? Which is it? Which? Who are?
Speaker 3: There's such a long list here to draw from. I
Speaker 3: like when it doesn't quite work out. Quite a difficult
Speaker 3: thing to explain to your partners, But I love it.
Speaker 2: In films it was really really I like when it's really.
Speaker 1: When Shenest just gets the message and leaves.
Speaker 2: Just leaves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly the reason I picked up that spider that
Speaker 3: represents you. That's why I threw it out the door.
Speaker 3: So like La la land, I just you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of some people don't like La La Land. There's
Speaker 3: certainly bits of it I really don't like, but there's
Speaker 3: bits of it that I just you know, the fact
Speaker 3: they're both they can't marry together, their careers and their
Speaker 3: relationship is like it's just so honest and feels so
Speaker 3: real that it's like, wow, no, I do really want
Speaker 3: to do this and I don't know. There's something about
Speaker 3: that Annie Hall and Alvi singer. It not working properly
Speaker 3: is perfect, and then the self examination that comes with that,
Speaker 3: and that relationship feels really sort of true and frustrating
Speaker 3: to watch in a really good way. Owen Wilson and
Speaker 3: the French Girl from the Past in Midnight in Paris
Speaker 3: is like I love it so I mean, I love
Speaker 3: Midnight in Paris so much. I know you're not supposed
Speaker 3: to say, well, the Allen films are good anymore, but
Speaker 3: I just I love you know, like I said, I
Speaker 3: disassociated ages ago, I'll separate it.
Speaker 2: I just relationship's amazing, how flawed that is.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jesse and Selene is just like, you know what,
Speaker 3: up until I love that relationship.
Speaker 2: I love the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love the whole thing where I love it
Speaker 3: the most up until is in the second film when
Speaker 3: it's obvious that he did turn up to their meeting
Speaker 3: place a year later and she didn't. The moment you
Speaker 3: sort of realize that is probably what happened is when
Speaker 3: I love the most because that feels so real to me. Also,
Speaker 3: then walking around chatting. It doesn't feel real to me
Speaker 3: that you'd meet someone on train, get off the train
Speaker 3: and then do that. But once they're walking around chatting
Speaker 3: and they're just walking around chatinghit and really getting to
Speaker 3: know each other, Like that is what some people think,
Speaker 3: that's unrealistic. I'm like, that is whatever. That's a great,
Speaker 3: wonderful moment with my girlfriend has been. Yeah, that is
Speaker 3: like just those times you go on holiday and you
Speaker 3: just think, oh what should we do? Oho care, let's
Speaker 3: just why don't we just walk around and just chat
Speaker 3: all day? And even if it's like an argument or
Speaker 3: it becomes like a debate about something, you know, it's
Speaker 3: not an argument to me if it's not actually about
Speaker 3: who you are or like what you've done. You know,
Speaker 3: if it's just about like, no, I think this about
Speaker 3: the world and I think this, then it's just like, no,
Speaker 3: that's just a conversation, but I just speak with such
Speaker 3: so passionately that sometimes my tone is it's like it
Speaker 3: becomes an argument. But things like that Past Lives another one.
Speaker 3: Every couple in Past Lives I love. I love the
Speaker 3: fact that you know the actual couple. The film's about
Speaker 3: where he's come to America to see her, and then
Speaker 3: it's like so painful, but also it's so exciting to
Speaker 3: do the sort of what might have been of it all.
Speaker 3: There's something so intrinsically exciting about exploring that even when
Speaker 3: you know you're not going to act on it. You know,
Speaker 3: I've always said, I think if you're from a small town,
Speaker 3: Christmas Eve up to a certain age is basically that
Speaker 3: when you come back from like UNI, and then you're
Speaker 3: all there at Christmas Eve and you're now a bit cooler,
Speaker 3: and then you sort of you're like, oh, why were
Speaker 3: we never a thing or whatever? And you're sort of thinking, well,
Speaker 3: because I wasn't fit then, I wasn't fit enough. What's
Speaker 3: happened is you're imagining me now, confident from university, in
Speaker 3: all those stories from when I was young and shy
Speaker 3: and had braces, and now you're going and how come
Speaker 3: that didn't and be like, oh, because you didn't respond
Speaker 3: to any of my poems. That's how That's the truth
Speaker 3: of it. But that's what Christmas he was all about.
Speaker 3: It's this sort of romantically not sexually, just romantically charged
Speaker 3: evening of like rewriting history effectively. But I also love
Speaker 3: in past lives, the actual relationships she's in with her
Speaker 3: actual partner, where he is so understanding of that, because
Speaker 3: in most films that would be a husband who's being like, ah,
Speaker 3: why I order.
Speaker 2: Who's this guy?
Speaker 3: And he'd be threatened and he isn't and it's just, oh,
Speaker 3: it just blew me apart that film. But the answer
Speaker 3: is none of those things. I'm going with pure recency bias,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to say, Andrew Garfield and Florence Pewing,
Speaker 3: we live in time.
Speaker 1: Really, I have not seen this yet.
Speaker 3: It's such and it's clearly it's both recently bias for
Speaker 3: me seeing it very recently, but also for it being
Speaker 3: about a couple in them sort of mid thirties and
Speaker 3: what it's like when you meet someone in your mid
Speaker 3: how different it is when it starts in your mid
Speaker 3: thirties kind of, and just the approach is so different
Speaker 3: and so much more honest, and the conversations are so different,
Speaker 3: and I've not necessarily had that experience, but I just
Speaker 3: sort of know, you know, I've had There's certain conversations
Speaker 3: in there that I've had, and I just found it
Speaker 3: such an honest depiction and it's an amazing film that
Speaker 3: I highly recommend. And I won't talk about it any
Speaker 3: further so I won't spoil it. But it's just so real.
Speaker 3: They're both so good in it, they're both refit. That's
Speaker 3: what you want, is they've got to be they both
Speaker 3: got to be fit.
Speaker 1: Really want. Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was the fittest one. Margot Robbie and Leonardo DiCaprio THI lancer.
Speaker 1: That's your perfect is what film inspired you to do something? James?
Speaker 3: Well, can you hear the banging by the way that's
Speaker 3: happening here? Okay, because to me there's there's fireworks going off.
Speaker 3: I'd say, I'd say within one meter of the share
Speaker 3: done currently in and this microphone must be except remember, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's not. It's well beyond that. It feels like
Speaker 3: it's happening in my brain.
Speaker 2: That's how close it is.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the film inspired me to do something. I
Speaker 3: would have said Jackass inspired me to go and film
Speaker 3: me and my mates jumping off stuff, but James Akasa
Speaker 3: said that, but you know it did the same thing
Speaker 3: for me as well. We went on film loads of
Speaker 3: us doing all of that stuff, but it was just
Speaker 3: like rubbish, like jumping into a bush.
Speaker 2: It's like there's no jeopardy.
Speaker 3: So what I will say is Coach Carter, Yes, inspired
Speaker 3: from me quite.
Speaker 2: A lot of very bad graphic design.
Speaker 1: How come.
Speaker 2: I'm weird?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: I was such a weird online and on the computer kid,
Speaker 3: and I sort of was like teaching myself little bits
Speaker 3: of like photoshop and stuff and like weird little effects.
Speaker 3: That very basic shit that you go is rubbish And
Speaker 3: if I carried on, I would now be good. But
Speaker 3: I didn't, and I would just do stuff like make
Speaker 3: these pictures for no reason, just to save myself that
Speaker 3: were just like basically cool typography that would say stuff
Speaker 3: like I remember one that was the phrase like champions,
Speaker 3: because Coach Carter is like, doesn't matter that you lost,
Speaker 3: you played like champions. And I was inspired by this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I did graphic design just said like champions,
Speaker 3: and there's a chance I posted it on my Space
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: But I can't believe that you didn't pull these women
Speaker 1: at school and he then saw you at Christmas Eve. You,
Speaker 1: I mean when they were like, why didn't why did
Speaker 1: nothing ever happen with that? Like champions, Well I tried.
Speaker 1: I tried like a champion to get you to go
Speaker 1: out with me. But it's not really about the winning.
Speaker 3: It's about getting off the streets and out of the
Speaker 3: ghetto and having some purpose in life.
Speaker 2: Actually, and clearly, my purpose.
Speaker 3: Now is to prove you wrong by becoming a stand
Speaker 3: up comedian.
Speaker 1: Mary Christmas, Yeah, good night. Well Reece James, I haven't
Speaker 1: listened to all your answers to all my questions, and
Speaker 1: I've decided this. You're going to heaven. Congratulations you. But
Speaker 1: before you leave, it was touch and go before you leave.
Speaker 1: Oh no, shit, sorry, no.
Speaker 2: You said it. Now, you've said it now, well basis.
Speaker 1: Fuck wait, Well, I could change my mind. I'm in
Speaker 1: control of this. Before I make my final decision, can
Speaker 1: you offer me one film that is meaningful in the
Speaker 1: hope that I will spare you. I hope I haven't
Speaker 1: tipped my hand in which way I might be leaving
Speaker 1: my decision.
Speaker 3: The holdovers fucking love it. I love it. I loved
Speaker 3: it I'm now. As soon as I saw it last year,
Speaker 3: it was like, right, I'm watching this every year. Every Christmas,
Speaker 3: I'm watching this. It will be one of those things
Speaker 3: I think I will. I will use every Christmas holiday
Speaker 3: to get more and more people into it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think make that many people in the UK know
Speaker 3: about it. I will introduce my family to it this year,
Speaker 3: I imagine. I just love I loved it so much,
Speaker 3: it's so good.
Speaker 1: Well I've changed my mind up well and James, what
Speaker 1: an absolute delight we've been. Would you like to tell
Speaker 1: anyone to watch your special et cetera? Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, watch my special etcetera now please? Ree James dot
Speaker 3: co dot uk is where you can find it. If
Speaker 3: you want to see some clips beforehand, just go on
Speaker 3: my YouTube. There's a few clips on my Instagram. Reece
Speaker 3: James e a r h ys UK spelling.
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend Reese's stand up. What's a wonderful
Speaker 1: sensitive poem boy? Thank you very much for doing this again.
Speaker 1: It has been lovely to see you. What an honor
Speaker 1: and I hope I'll see you very soon.
Speaker 2: Bye, good day.
Speaker 1: So that was episode three hundred and twenty five. Head
Speaker 1: over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash
Speaker 1: back dancing to the extra twenty minutes of chat, sequens
Speaker 1: and video with Reeese, James Gos Apple Podcasts give us
Speaker 1: a five style writing but right about the film that
Speaker 1: is the most to you and why it's a lovely
Speaker 1: thing to read my name and more and really loves
Speaker 1: it always makes her cry. Thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Reese for giving me his time. Remember to watch his
Speaker 1: special Spilt Milk. You can find it online, go see
Speaker 1: his show live if you can. Thanks to Grubious Pip
Speaker 1: and destruct some pieces of network. Thanks a buddy Peace
Speaker 1: for producing it, for the graphics at least lading for
Speaker 1: the photography. Come and join me next week for a
Speaker 1: smasher of an episode. But that is it for now.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, have a lovely week, and please, now
Speaker 1: even more than ever, be excellent to each other.