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Speaker 1: this time for another episode of Big Facts. What's up?
Speaker 1: People say? Everybody? Everybody doing? What the hell is going on? Good?
Speaker 1: Jay is happy? She looks very studious today. I'm very
Speaker 1: happy because I'm from the east Side today. You're from
Speaker 1: the east Side today? Okay, yeah, Honorary. Do you hear
Speaker 1: what she's saying for for you, bro? Basically, do you
Speaker 1: want to repeat it? You want me to inflated and
Speaker 1: make it sound crazy? Blow it up. That's how niggas
Speaker 1: on the east Side dressed like what what you say,
Speaker 1: dressed like good wholesome people. Oh my gosh, she said, said,
Speaker 1: what's up Bank? You good? Smoking? Good today? It's a
Speaker 1: good strand early. Yeah, got your candle, get your vibe.
Speaker 1: I like that man, those it is. He looks very
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, that's what's up. We ain't mad at that.
Speaker 1: We ain't mad at that music legend J Juice Man
Speaker 1: gonna pull up all this today. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Shot a juice Man that's long, that's long overdue. But
Speaker 1: first we're gonna we're gonna do a little goat talk,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like when
Speaker 1: you go online you open your ears, your eyes and everything.
Speaker 1: I feel like the word goat, like everybody's a goat.
Speaker 1: I feel like the term is used too loosely. It's
Speaker 1: like goat classic, all this, all these terms of endearment,
Speaker 1: like an album will be out for ten minutes to
Speaker 1: be a classic. Everybody's a goat, And I get it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think it's just kind
Speaker 1: of like uplift your brothers and stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: shouldn't we have to work towards or have some type
Speaker 1: of filter to get to that point of just goat?
Speaker 1: Like everybody can't just be a goat, like straight off
Speaker 1: the porch. I think like that ship is kind of
Speaker 1: like a almost a reflex in this day and age,
Speaker 1: Like you say, like, okay, like you hear some ship
Speaker 1: that's like going crazy, Oh, that's the harder sh it ever,
Speaker 1: or you hear some ship like oh that nigg is
Speaker 1: going crazy, or you know what I'm saying, Like going
Speaker 1: crazy and goat is two different things though, like going crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like if nigga goes crazy more than once. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Not me, but people have a
Speaker 1: tendency to associate that with being the goat. But they
Speaker 1: don't understand that the goat means the greatest of all
Speaker 1: times And just because this nigga went crazy twice doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that. Yeah, and nor because if you're listening to
Speaker 1: some ship in the first two songs on the project Hard,
Speaker 1: that don't mean it's classic classic. So ship we're still
Speaker 1: listening to from ten twenty years ago? Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about the filters. And do y'all feel like this
Speaker 1: is because I mean I do the same ship. I
Speaker 1: might not say goat, but I might be like this
Speaker 1: is a classic because I like two three songs. But Ship,
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be one goat of each thing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time? So who's the rap goat?
Speaker 1: But see that jay Z alright, j Z the rap
Speaker 1: Let's see what does that mean? Drake can't be a goat? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I think that we need some different errs. I
Speaker 1: think different different Yeah. But if you say, of all times,
Speaker 1: who's the best? Yeah, Gold is of all time, Like
Speaker 1: you gotta change that work a little bit, like it
Speaker 1: can't be of all times, like but that's what it
Speaker 1: can be, okay, like like a G O. And I
Speaker 1: think people meeting in the in the in the sense
Speaker 1: of just kind of like there's kind of like O G.
Speaker 1: People just use the term O G. Anybody can be
Speaker 1: anybody can be an A because in O G isn't
Speaker 1: an original gangster of a certain time, and O G
Speaker 1: is just an original gangster. Like that's the original definition
Speaker 1: of it. I think it's that ain't what they time
Speaker 1: out when they be called they to mysething. They just
Speaker 1: called all ni O G go what's about to go? Back?
Speaker 1: Go back to the the greatest of all time football?
Speaker 1: Tom Brady basketball, Michael Jordan's a. Numbers, numbers, numbers solidified
Speaker 1: you as to go, who got more? Who got more
Speaker 1: than see Marines of the Quarterback Tom Brady, Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: So who you on, it don't matter. J's ultimate goal
Speaker 1: is to get championships, right, and you got the most
Speaker 1: way that makes you, It makes you to go so
Speaker 1: but but but but but you know the crazy thing.
Speaker 1: So we just said money. Now it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's possible to make the most money but not have
Speaker 1: the most championships. Like he got the most money, but
Speaker 1: he don't have the most platinum pleques. No, you gotta win, No, bro,
Speaker 1: legend the greatest, you gotta be the greatest ship in
Speaker 1: the game. He's a legend. He's a culture ship. Hold on, somebody,
Speaker 1: it's m J Man. What you say he was? Again? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say he's a coaching ship, a real ship. That's
Speaker 1: what he is like, and that's considered some great ship.
Speaker 1: But he's not the greatest basketball player of all times.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. And then just like and
Speaker 1: I love like my favorite basketball player. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: he looked like the nigger you saw playing at the
Speaker 1: gym and the basketball courts like that actually make from
Speaker 1: the ram or some ship in the hood Lebron what duh,
Speaker 1: duh duh, it's Jordan's. Yeah. You can't beat a go
Speaker 1: You just gotta be go the goat, right, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: beyonces the goat of what of whatever her genre is.
Speaker 1: She's almost a billionaire or whatever she got going on,
Speaker 1: and she has the plaques to show for it, and
Speaker 1: she's toured and she did coach chilling all this other
Speaker 1: ship like who else? So just fun Diana Rosst No,
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying that. He said, there's different errors,
Speaker 1: like we can't shoot on we got to say who
Speaker 1: the goat? Goat though streams of all of it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out of that. When it comes to
Speaker 1: female musicians and ship, I stay out of that. But
Speaker 1: for rappers, jay Z, you're just saying for rappers jay Z,
Speaker 1: rappers jay Z? Right? No, so who so so so?
Speaker 1: Who the female goat of R and B? Mary j
Speaker 1: Blinde our favorite? She's our favorite, our favorite, hits consistent,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm more histing Beyonce. She got anybody? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think right now Beyonce. But with Mary Jane put
Speaker 1: out on music in a minute, Mary Janet got to
Speaker 1: put out another another, another ad limb and she's that's
Speaker 1: my favorite, that's my personal favorite favorite. But speak got
Speaker 1: the most money and the most plaque. You're saying, we
Speaker 1: can't speak opinions, so so what the funk else is
Speaker 1: there other than opinions, opinions numbers? That's the covers said, sports,
Speaker 1: we can measure it by your championships and music. You know,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna go. You got ten Grammys, you to go.
Speaker 1: I don't give you know what I'm saying, like whatever,
Speaker 1: you got the Grammys. But if you're on Forbes and
Speaker 1: we look up and you got a hunted plaques all platinum, platinum,
Speaker 1: all that ship, I'm gonna go at you. How three
Speaker 1: decades she she made the money, Beyonce, maybe b Plax.
Speaker 1: We have to have money to it. We have to
Speaker 1: have money, make money, money, not make everything. No, it don't.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying to everything but numbers the one
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think, I think, if I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what Mary J. Blige.
Speaker 1: We don't want to take nothing from Mary J. Blige.
Speaker 1: Somebody that's already out of the game. That doesn't matter
Speaker 1: you're talking about because Tom Brady is still again telling
Speaker 1: the man, come on, Louis V. Man, Louis V. Come on,
Speaker 1: he made it, come on let him. You gotta get
Speaker 1: on this, Mike. That's just what said again. I said,
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna be called the goat, you
Speaker 1: should be out the game. I mean, you can't be
Speaker 1: the goat. Tom Brady is still in the game. I agreed,
Speaker 1: but not yet. No whot, Yeah, don't do that not Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what is he gonna do? Tire serenas to go it?
Speaker 1: I mean she's getting beat now too that that's not good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get she's getting beat by somebody that looked up
Speaker 1: to her because in her eyes, but she's getting beat now, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like said, how can you get disrespected by somebody
Speaker 1: you don't even respect. You're my little nigger, So like
Speaker 1: you beating me means okay, like you're buddy. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying she's not a ghost. No, I'm not gonna say that,
Speaker 1: but they're okay, Hey, it has to be. And we're
Speaker 1: talking about the football goat. It is Tom Brady. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I retired and I don't take I'm just
Speaker 1: saying in this situation, yeah, he is. He is a goat.
Speaker 1: He is no no, no, no go football Okay cool.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got board championship rings in him? If we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk numbers, that's perfectly fine. But yeah, said music,
Speaker 1: let's stick to music. The rapper goat is jay Z. Agreed,
Speaker 1: it's jay Z. Agree. We can all agree on that. Agree.
Speaker 1: How many times has he retired? He's retired a couple
Speaker 1: of times. How many times did you put out an
Speaker 1: album since the last He hasn't put out an album
Speaker 1: in the wild, all right, So everybody looking at him,
Speaker 1: ask but he was here when he when he was
Speaker 1: in the game, was no, No, he was agout five
Speaker 1: years ago, bro in five years and ten years ago. Man,
Speaker 1: it's fifty something, Hello, hello, Hello, Say what you said again?
Speaker 1: You said when he's in the game. When he was
Speaker 1: in the game, was everybody looking at him as to
Speaker 1: go black album? He was not. I think after the
Speaker 1: black album he was can say that it was still
Speaker 1: still was still it was still either bigger pocket, that's right,
Speaker 1: because we thought he was going to retire. It was
Speaker 1: like deal makes all of them was still in that
Speaker 1: in that right and that run. Then I got the
Speaker 1: name Avery Graham came in the game. And then what
Speaker 1: happened now where we started the question, Yeah, what you
Speaker 1: mean any conversation, any conversation, what what let nick out?
Speaker 1: Are you drunk? We're doing the phone with the snitch,
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here with big homie house
Speaker 1: call that we're gonna make sure that big homies homies
Speaker 1: houses tripping in this talk about numbers like straight up z,
Speaker 1: I'm saying no, we said not then, not now. A
Speaker 1: lot of people go jay Z and Tupac, I mean
Speaker 1: to Tupac and Biggie until the jay Z ship happened.
Speaker 1: Now we have to have the conversation. Soon jay Z
Speaker 1: took over and soon we have to have the conversation
Speaker 1: about Drake, right, we just do. Who is definitely going
Speaker 1: to be is a goal? He's not. But he's put
Speaker 1: up the numbers, but he hasn't made the same money yet,
Speaker 1: So you can't. You can't. You can't base this ship
Speaker 1: off the money. You can't. You know, I got to
Speaker 1: drain the goat of what the money else? The money
Speaker 1: helps listen to what I'm saying, they can get included,
Speaker 1: but it can't be a deal breaker. What that's the
Speaker 1: case ago right to what he does. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: have a say about with talking about them and not
Speaker 1: talk about and we got to find another public all
Speaker 1: these people who have did similar work, but it's only
Speaker 1: what those are legends. There's legends, there are legends, there's legends,
Speaker 1: there's goat. Yeah it's one goat, Like what's who to
Speaker 1: go to boxing Floyd right now? Because he's retired, he's done.
Speaker 1: He would go back man, right, he's not talking about
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali. I'm talking about the black neggat that was
Speaker 1: boxing outside. That was the first black neggative box. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not the first neggative booth. His name is Jack Um.
Speaker 1: Yes you know Jack Dempsey was. I think in boxing
Speaker 1: you throw if he's not the n but if you
Speaker 1: don't remember his name, he's not the goat. All right,
Speaker 1: bro am I right a wrong, you're gonna remember the
Speaker 1: greatest name you got A dog is Italian for my last.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, when you're talking about the debate,
Speaker 1: the debate becomes Mohammed Ali and may web right for show.
Speaker 1: But to Mohammed Mike Tyson a legend, legend because he
Speaker 1: felt from grace because he bent Evander's ear off. He didn't,
Speaker 1: that's not why Grace because of his life, his life,
Speaker 1: he talks about it to call these other people. So
Speaker 1: these other people are legends. There's a legend you have,
Speaker 1: goats have got So Beyonce is a legend, a legend
Speaker 1: right now, she's not the goat yet. Mary showed me
Speaker 1: who's done where he hasn't done. What Beyonce has. I
Speaker 1: love Mary, but Beyonce hasn't done what Mary did? Even
Speaker 1: what was that? What is done? Three decades? Bro? She seen?
Speaker 1: You gotta What are you trying to say a group?
Speaker 1: She wasn't She didn't have social media, she didn't have
Speaker 1: like what Beyonce didn't have social media? That's they shouting,
Speaker 1: I have social media something that was created at everybody
Speaker 1: do now? What was that? What's that first female that
Speaker 1: really got to remix? Why nobody doing remix? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Mary j Blood. We got These are opinions,
Speaker 1: y'all trying to argue. Yeah, yeah, So so what makes
Speaker 1: you go? That makes you a go? The facts? What
Speaker 1: makes you a go? In the we're not got what
Speaker 1: makes you go to the fact should be with the championships?
Speaker 1: So what's the championship of music? Let's define that. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's not the GM makes you go? And
Speaker 1: what are the qualifications? Is everybody is going to have
Speaker 1: a different set of qualifications as what makes you So
Speaker 1: that's an opinion. What's the championship for musicians? If you're
Speaker 1: a musician, what is your championship? What do you want?
Speaker 1: The vision? Fucking what I don't think it's awards. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's plex. If you're gonna go awards, then
Speaker 1: you got to give drink his credit plaques, didn't get
Speaker 1: a Grammy Baby, didn't get Gray. I did say I
Speaker 1: don't get it, y'all. Yeah, I'm okay. I was gonna
Speaker 1: go out plaques with music. No what we're going on
Speaker 1: because you know how many niggers have been snubbed for
Speaker 1: plaque total plaques. We can't go to play. We gotta
Speaker 1: go out. We gotta go out for that money. Money, money, influence, influence,
Speaker 1: that's what makes you to go. Like the end of
Speaker 1: the days, you can't even argue about jay z influence
Speaker 1: his paper. He's got damn moves, moves like a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas probably would have been the goat if they
Speaker 1: didn't pass away or if they got themn he could
Speaker 1: have been to go to their mother. Up, I'm saying
Speaker 1: he is a go I'm saying he probably would have
Speaker 1: been the goat if he had had his business. Great
Speaker 1: de folks got a beating straight. So all that ship
Speaker 1: fall up on that. Remember we're talking about on one
Speaker 1: big your bitches moves. You could your motherfucking your style
Speaker 1: the way you walk, the way you talk. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Were talked about saying he was the
Speaker 1: first artist to have a dog. Listen, we talked, we
Speaker 1: talked about We talked tom amazing goat moves. We talked
Speaker 1: about on bit fasting goat moves that we got to
Speaker 1: say a lot of people may goat moves, but we
Speaker 1: talked about on bit fast before how you control your legacy,
Speaker 1: your legacy. So if we go back, really the nigger
Speaker 1: that fuck the whole goat ship and start using the
Speaker 1: term we couldn't argue at the time was Coja. When
Speaker 1: Coolja had this ship all lockdown and he came out
Speaker 1: with an album called go he started this ship, but
Speaker 1: he was talking about what we talked about, what the
Speaker 1: qualifications he take to be the goat need you're talking about,
Speaker 1: He was the greatest. He's my rapper. Though see a
Speaker 1: lot of you pla goat on on. I guess they expertise,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he probably feel like
Speaker 1: I'm the best rapper period, not I'm the best dress
Speaker 1: or I'm the best spoken on the bench, nothing else
Speaker 1: but the rapper, right, Okay, So we gotta say, who's
Speaker 1: the best rapper? Go, because we gotta take j he
Speaker 1: is the best rap artist of all time. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: the best rapper. He's the best man exact for sure.
Speaker 1: But but but it's more people that I like. I
Speaker 1: like more rappers over jay Z. Like I prefer to
Speaker 1: listen to somebody else rap, but I prefer to listen
Speaker 1: to this, and they talk about business, I prefer over anybody.
Speaker 1: I prefer to God. Then watch his moves and try
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying duplicate to some extent,
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, like for having my business together.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, and then some
Speaker 1: of these rappers that I listened to, probably I wouldn't
Speaker 1: listen to ship they say about no business. So all
Speaker 1: we say jay to go now who the boss? And
Speaker 1: go why? But you just said business did? Because this
Speaker 1: this is where it gets a little tricky. I feel
Speaker 1: like if you talk to Mayweather, the inspiration created that,
Speaker 1: ain't that don't make you a goat Because I'm inspired
Speaker 1: by something I I was just buyed by crackheads in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. Not come out so straight up like they
Speaker 1: don't make them need no goats. Yeah, is the goat
Speaker 1: because that nigga changed, He changed the way the folks
Speaker 1: got them saying the way they need to get paid.
Speaker 1: They need to getting real money off this ship, not
Speaker 1: just for himself, for other people on That's another thing
Speaker 1: you gotta consider too. So what about the people? Yeah,
Speaker 1: look how many people employed by them? And what about
Speaker 1: the people from another world? What about the people from
Speaker 1: another world that would of what white wrapped artists? White rapper,
Speaker 1: he's probably the most the most relevant white rapper ever ever.
Speaker 1: For sure, he's the the white goat of all time,
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, they can't name another white rapper,
Speaker 1: order them or you know what I'm saying the end
Speaker 1: of the day or what they do. But far as
Speaker 1: the American dream of a rap nigga jay z is
Speaker 1: so we settled that. And who's the American dream of
Speaker 1: a female R and B artist? If you put it
Speaker 1: in that light, then it will be beyont That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, like coming up, if they showed you
Speaker 1: if you was a little girl, this time use little
Speaker 1: jay the littit as girl right now, and this time
Speaker 1: they show you the videos of everybody's career as a
Speaker 1: female who would you pick to be? Like right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They showed you all what
Speaker 1: they did. But see, we grew up in people now
Speaker 1: didn't see Mary j Blie do what she did. But
Speaker 1: if I go back and show you everything Mary did
Speaker 1: in her career and show you everything that be didn't
Speaker 1: her career, who who would you think these females gonna
Speaker 1: want to emmulate? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely beyond say definitely,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Basketball the same way when Nigga's
Speaker 1: going to the whole who they splaying joy Joy Joy,
Speaker 1: don't matter what what shoes you got on, what you're
Speaker 1: going to the everybody got a pair of Jorge. I
Speaker 1: don't know too many people to my dog like home
Speaker 1: he but guess what, they're ugly as fun as that's
Speaker 1: all country up. Shot at them. Tell them out of feature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting over there hoping them. And she's a
Speaker 1: Sacramento But I always have to say, Jordan, Yeah, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like the end of the day, if
Speaker 1: you finished through football, got now you want your on
Speaker 1: to be like braid It on depends who I'm a
Speaker 1: Mike Vick fan. We all might be, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: put Vic on your team before Brady. In fact, it
Speaker 1: depends on what depends up your job. Viewers, Um, the
Speaker 1: junior man was general manager. Then let's let's let's start.
Speaker 1: Let's let's throw one more out actor actor, actress, actors
Speaker 1: and actress goats. Denzel ain't like and then and then
Speaker 1: you gotta do that with Pleaux with him and all that.
Speaker 1: It's just you can any role he played, you can
Speaker 1: feel like this the truth I get somebody give his money.
Speaker 1: We'll Smith, but yeah, but we'll Smith. I looked at
Speaker 1: you as a rapper at first, so it's just like
Speaker 1: I ain't I'm talking Fox too. Yeah, definitely, but that
Speaker 1: ain't know wor man. But does there work different man? Smith?
Speaker 1: Smith knocks on that. You can damn see every character
Speaker 1: Denzel play. You can damn see that in him, like
Speaker 1: that's he got that in him for real? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: you can see people like Hold like he couldn't. I
Speaker 1: see somebody getting the wrong man commit got his faith
Speaker 1: tattooed on. There can see that ship Instagram somebody when
Speaker 1: they got a magal tattoo and let him tattoo. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what about female about female. That's what I was just
Speaker 1: getting ready to. So no, Cincily Tyson. We yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was I think she was a little bit
Speaker 1: before fucking Meryl Street. Cincily Tyson, Yeah, I know that,
Speaker 1: But we don't know about wind A Bassett. I'll say
Speaker 1: Angela Bassett just because she played Tina. No, no, that
Speaker 1: category Angela Bassett. What the kind of punch you got? Bro?
Speaker 1: That nigga drinkings the rock at eleven o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning and it's the same nigga. Man, don't even get
Speaker 1: me starting on Hettle Louis V Man. We're about to
Speaker 1: get ready for o J the juice Man. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we're gonna ask him who his goat is?
Speaker 1: So who to go to trap me? Who's the go
Speaker 1: to trap me? That's now okay, Yeah, I can't waiting
Speaker 1: to hear that one coming from y'all. We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep that. We're gonna, okay, let's answer that. This
Speaker 1: podcast doing one. That's good. Why do you say, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at what when Trapp really started coming out?
Speaker 1: So you got him, you got jeezy he applies. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what to trap me there with somebody'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, Yeah, let me go. And so out
Speaker 1: of all of them people that came out somewhat around
Speaker 1: the same time, you gotta look at what Gucci contribution
Speaker 1: was to the game. Not only did he do what
Speaker 1: he did when he put other people on the back
Speaker 1: that that would making real you know, you know who
Speaker 1: he's still putting facts, you know who to ship. That's
Speaker 1: gonna make him to go to this shoot. You know,
Speaker 1: you know what you know and this is healthy conversation.
Speaker 1: Who would disagree with that? Thirdly, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: If I popt the Tip was here, he would thoroughly.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to. Tip is the center. Tip is the
Speaker 1: inventor of hen trying to say he be trying to
Speaker 1: say like he's he is. He is the inventor from
Speaker 1: Atlantic of trapped music. He first Nigga said what it
Speaker 1: was trapped music? Everybody but the goat of it is
Speaker 1: everybody put on because he put like he said he did,
Speaker 1: everybody t I put on and not take off? Is
Speaker 1: that what That's the truth? No, Trapp Scott, he had
Speaker 1: meet milk, he had meat milk too, meet me, took off.
Speaker 1: He got ross. Yeah, yeah, Tro had a hell of
Speaker 1: a good country Kang country hard Contro's hard hard yeah,
Speaker 1: b o B. He's saying, Gucci made stark. No, Gucci
Speaker 1: is never get about We can't forge about ecstasy. Now,
Speaker 1: Ecstasy was making major waves for the ladies stars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every every every matter is the true trap guy, trap trap.
Speaker 1: So why come on, man, jes came in. We been
Speaker 1: in no disrespect to him. He did his thing. I'm
Speaker 1: just asking just let me tell you what Jesus did, though,
Speaker 1: we gotta get him an in credit. Jesus took it
Speaker 1: to the rich Dope boys ship from from a brand,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, He took it from God.
Speaker 1: Then we gotta get that into that, like he was
Speaker 1: talking to the street what we're going on right then
Speaker 1: that would make him even be relevant in this conversation.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of NEU got money to that
Speaker 1: g I got money to that ship. You get saying
Speaker 1: like he was speaking this ship like but you just
Speaker 1: left out my spot stalking this ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he's he's uh, he's a legend and
Speaker 1: what he needs and he's a trap legend and what
Speaker 1: he like I can't take that from the man. But
Speaker 1: he's not the goal period. Yeah, that's like I said,
Speaker 1: Chill started Jesus took it to the natural level till
Speaker 1: we're talking about the dope boy isn't running the car
Speaker 1: at the time. That what we were doing, Like I
Speaker 1: graduate these niggas at that time, that what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Jesus can't he more talking about niggas in the spot
Speaker 1: servant with scales and ship, that's what we were doing
Speaker 1: at that time. Gucci brought all that ship to the game.
Speaker 1: We're gonna wrong, We're gonna do whatever, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: put niggas on the shits the side of it, the
Speaker 1: zone sitway so that what it is like all them
Speaker 1: niggas did what they even even it's it's more niggas,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna name the niggas from Atlanta so because
Speaker 1: that's what we're from. But it's more niggas that that
Speaker 1: put ship in that ship to to make it what
Speaker 1: it is. But them three niggs that's what And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly, you got you came
Speaker 1: back niggas like like the nigga play their part like
Speaker 1: and what this ship is But like I said, popped
Speaker 1: it off with they goddamn dope boys ship. Then you
Speaker 1: brought goddamn Jesus Like I said, we're working scales now.
Speaker 1: Brought the whole everything that got something to do with
Speaker 1: the trap to the ship. Yeah, that's got a good question.
Speaker 1: So y'all from Atlanta, I'm from South Carolinas. I just
Speaker 1: want to know, like, when's the first time you heard
Speaker 1: the word trap? Who was the first rap? And get
Speaker 1: him mafia for me? For me? Yeah, he took he
Speaker 1: made it boys in the traps a word and I
Speaker 1: probably heard first in ninety phone from get on Mafia.
Speaker 1: That was the first time I heard. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But nigga's been saying that, saying that, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That the first. So you can't take
Speaker 1: it from Yeah, you can't take he he made he
Speaker 1: made different sea to start looking at na get some
Speaker 1: street niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because no dished the good
Speaker 1: out care they was. They was on some different ships,
Speaker 1: but it was it was it was our time like
Speaker 1: it would play. It was They've got trapped put in
Speaker 1: the dictionary. Yeah, he made it a household term. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first time I heard it on Wax was going to mafia.
Speaker 1: That's just for shure. Yeah, I don't say like we
Speaker 1: started getting recognition from the other cities that like with
Speaker 1: dope boys, and so we gotta get home. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We gotta give him that yeah again
Speaker 1: and showed you that. Everybody to play all three of them.
Speaker 1: Nigga played them. Now we can say them nigging the
Speaker 1: trap guards, the trap got what they call it, the
Speaker 1: um mount us Mount Russia. Yes, now for show leading,
Speaker 1: the one on the out, because because one when one
Speaker 1: want to help do the other, you get one saying
Speaker 1: all that ship helped each other. To me, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Facts big shouts out, Big Facts
Speaker 1: is going down. Triple w Dot Big Facts, pot Dot
Speaker 1: com O j the Juice Man on the way, the Truth,
Speaker 1: the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Big Facts DJ screen, Big Bang baby Ja. We gotta
Speaker 1: actual guests in the building. You know I'm saying, trapped legend.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of conversation with the one
Speaker 1: and only, oh Ja, the Juice Man on Big Facts,
Speaker 1: Big Facts Man, a good real man. I appreciate y'all
Speaker 1: having me. Man, I've been wanting to come a long time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and just seeing y'all how
Speaker 1: y'all orchestrated the thing. Man, I'm gonna tell you how
Speaker 1: we brought with you. And I mean this so we
Speaker 1: can laugh about it. We have never letting anybody be
Speaker 1: to late. The big fact I said, I said that said,
Speaker 1: that's our jew move man, And so I mean, and
Speaker 1: then I stayed so fucking far from here, you god damn. So,
Speaker 1: I mean they're good for me because you know, coming
Speaker 1: from the screet when niggas tell you nigga's goddamn like
Speaker 1: on some ship like for nigga tell you and you
Speaker 1: got now forty minutes from where you're actually working, that
Speaker 1: nick gonna turn out like both in here, didn't he get? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Through five counties, we got sticks in the cold. Hell
Speaker 1: not turn around. They might not be right too far,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, So I just try to you know,
Speaker 1: I just stayed far from where I play at. That's real.
Speaker 1: So where you've been, that's what the first I want
Speaker 1: to know musically, where you've been physically just in your life.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been, I've been in the same thing.
Speaker 1: I never trained my flow. It just when when the
Speaker 1: business went bad with Deep them and me learning the
Speaker 1: business instead of just being the artist, I started doing
Speaker 1: everything independently, so I my my huge backing that was
Speaker 1: pushing me it kind of you know way, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something that has reckons out, like keeping I'm keeping the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm cool on them. You know, I'm cool on fair
Speaker 1: enough enough. So you've been on your independent ground. Only
Speaker 1: complaint from your fans and they want more music. They
Speaker 1: want more music, and my slow ass don't begin on
Speaker 1: videos when I load them up with music. But I
Speaker 1: don't do videos, and I don't know black I want
Speaker 1: to do it, and then uh fucking the day I'll
Speaker 1: be trying to set it up to do it. I
Speaker 1: wake up and I'm like, man, I don't want you
Speaker 1: this ship, I swear, and I'm like, man, I gotta
Speaker 1: stop doing the cause I noticed Defolt want the content
Speaker 1: visuals with the music. Yeah they yeah, they might want
Speaker 1: you music. Defolt want to see this ship. You know.
Speaker 1: The moment where a lot of people can't the juice
Speaker 1: man fans was when you did that Hood of Fests freestyle.
Speaker 1: So you got to treat the videos like that. They
Speaker 1: called me and see it. Well, we're shooting. I run
Speaker 1: my fat down. I was like, I got to be
Speaker 1: in new when you're right to the folks want to
Speaker 1: see that stuff. They want to speaking of Gresham in
Speaker 1: the East Side. And you know what I'm saying all
Speaker 1: of that, it's a lot of people that are familiar
Speaker 1: with you, but they don't know like the origin, what
Speaker 1: exactly it's thirty two entertainment and where did it come from? Okay,
Speaker 1: what does the thirty two mean? Like all that kind
Speaker 1: of ship. Break that down for us. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: break it down. Thirty thirty two n t come from
Speaker 1: me standing at the top of something valid at the
Speaker 1: bus stop and for and for those that I don't
Speaker 1: know about the bus stop, Okay, something valid, Okay, something
Speaker 1: valid is departments. I grew up in right off of
Speaker 1: Boat of Chris and the bus stop was for people
Speaker 1: who didn't have transportation. It was like your local transportation.
Speaker 1: You could pay to get you the certain spots. And
Speaker 1: me sending at the bus stop all day. But I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to ride the mortar bus. So and at
Speaker 1: thirty two coming back to back and two, the bus
Speaker 1: thirty two is they say thirty two to Chris on
Speaker 1: the Mortar bus, and so I'm like, ship, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: name my ship third because that's all I know, that's
Speaker 1: at the bus stop all day for life. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna name my joint U thirty two E N
Speaker 1: T Man and and I've been running with that way
Speaker 1: before I signed with Dell. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Even when I was doing the hype man stuff for
Speaker 1: Goochen and whatnot, just trying to really get into business
Speaker 1: and whatnot. It's always thirty to always entertainment. I remember
Speaker 1: when you first started with this ship. But when you
Speaker 1: feel like you started taking ships here like oh I
Speaker 1: can do this ship. When we was in the leab
Speaker 1: U when we saw all do to leave on more
Speaker 1: and I go in there and pay dj Andre fitted
Speaker 1: all of the get ready to yeah and get dre
Speaker 1: fitted all of them. I had about two hundred maybe
Speaker 1: one anywhere from a huntred the three hundred worth of wars,
Speaker 1: and when I performed, I was I started off with
Speaker 1: getting money way before quarter brick and then I just
Speaker 1: always throw the money. And I'm still yeah, just be
Speaker 1: throwing the money. I was trying to make it look
Speaker 1: good because it was got down. I'm like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: I might o my got it, I'm like, and then
Speaker 1: I started doing the ad lives, and folks will catch
Speaker 1: it to the ad lives then what I'm really rapping about.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh ship, So this has probably had
Speaker 1: to been like with oh File six, I didn't really
Speaker 1: because I started with okay. I used to just stretched okay,
Speaker 1: and then I thought I started doing them okay, okay.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that right down so
Speaker 1: on like shipt up the run because it got the
Speaker 1: bounce to it. And you know, we come from getting
Speaker 1: dope book talk cutless eighty three cutless or eight six
Speaker 1: eight eight box shiving and we got a little thing.
Speaker 1: We're back in the day we used to do this,
Speaker 1: like coming to a red like and you got the
Speaker 1: beating your trunk folk twis or whatnot. You start whipping.
Speaker 1: You might wheel to the level, wheel to the right
Speaker 1: like you always music. We get you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying about. That's I always looked at me making the
Speaker 1: a's or whatnot. You think it's harder to god, then
Speaker 1: stay focused on the on the rap ship when you
Speaker 1: know you know how to get money to do others
Speaker 1: like sometimes true because yeah, yea, because sometimes the other
Speaker 1: thing could consume a lot of your time. And with
Speaker 1: the music you got, you got the lowdr category up
Speaker 1: with music like you got to stay recording like it was.
Speaker 1: At one point in time, I was like, man, forget music.
Speaker 1: Man it is I like it, but from all the
Speaker 1: bad business. And then the money ain't coming in how
Speaker 1: it used to be on life, you know. But hey man,
Speaker 1: you know brow I'm cool with it, but it ain't
Speaker 1: paying the bills if you So let's say, let's say
Speaker 1: you're in the booth and you in the middle of
Speaker 1: a song, you're jamming the ship, and then maybe your
Speaker 1: phone go for a play, hey man, Apple saving and
Speaker 1: then I get back to you get to it because
Speaker 1: I always leave my studio, and then I kind of
Speaker 1: noticed they probably wouldn't be missing up my own my
Speaker 1: my Mike pre Choose because I don't went through like
Speaker 1: three three Mike pre too, because I just always leave
Speaker 1: it on because I never know when I just need
Speaker 1: to go in here and record, and I think I
Speaker 1: damaged some stuff doing that because I don't switch Mike
Speaker 1: pre Choose at least three to four times. What time
Speaker 1: do you feel like in the South of US be
Speaker 1: getting bought the most that and you show you the
Speaker 1: most love. M hmm. And they got to be the
Speaker 1: Carolinas for show Carolina Everybody three money, You're Gonna Eat Man,
Speaker 1: And they just like good music and and and what
Speaker 1: I noticed about Carolina they at the party. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They like the party. Carolina is just
Speaker 1: one of my biggest I used to super be big
Speaker 1: and Chicago, but with that no radio buds, it kind
Speaker 1: of shimmer you down. But my main that's gonna book Carolina,
Speaker 1: North and South Carolinas is more grass room. Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They really listen to music and
Speaker 1: stay with the artists as opposed to so you think
Speaker 1: that's a part of make you want to just keep
Speaker 1: doing the ship like the love you get when you're
Speaker 1: going to the township and that and the people that
Speaker 1: be on my social media like bro, I don't start
Speaker 1: where we love you, um where you really really taught
Speaker 1: the stuff? And I never really looked there like that
Speaker 1: be could then when I do think about it, like now,
Speaker 1: I do be breaking down a lot of stuff that
Speaker 1: a more actual person win breakdown, Like you gotta think
Speaker 1: about when I put make said made the radio. I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: the first person to a brick broke down on radio.
Speaker 1: I never looked at it like that truth. This is truth.
Speaker 1: And I worked that record three years. They told me
Speaker 1: that record one never make radio because it's too too
Speaker 1: much reference. Y. Yeah, and then they end up blowing
Speaker 1: I'm getting mine out the water. Come, I'm getting money
Speaker 1: will posted being my main first single. I think Copper
Speaker 1: Chicken was the one that got and they slept on
Speaker 1: that because of the fact when they put it out
Speaker 1: they only put it out one verse. But I had
Speaker 1: an original original Copper Chicken with three verses. Bro. But
Speaker 1: when they did that, when they did the other side
Speaker 1: of the trap album, they only put they put the
Speaker 1: version out with just one verse. Yeah, what's up? What's up?
Speaker 1: So before before you pulled up, we was having this
Speaker 1: healthy debate about who is the goat of trapp many,
Speaker 1: who is the go to trap music? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say me because okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't just created nobody
Speaker 1: else or what they say they do, but I do
Speaker 1: this that we we we, we we saluted Gucci because
Speaker 1: Gucci opened up a lot of doors through a lot
Speaker 1: of it. He still is a lot of doors trap music, right,
Speaker 1: So it Gucci? Who else? We didn't take anything away
Speaker 1: from and everybody else because you know, Jeezy brought the
Speaker 1: rich nigger aspect to it because he took the ship
Speaker 1: from the nick to a break, but Gucci encompassed the
Speaker 1: whole entire thing. And on top of that, he's still
Speaker 1: like pulling niggas out of the trap to this day
Speaker 1: and like getting them real bad down. And then we
Speaker 1: threw out there Jeezy too, because we think it's proper to.
Speaker 1: I mean, jeez, this one. They were having glutenwood day
Speaker 1: back and I forgot what you do. They probably had
Speaker 1: been Old three Old Fold maybe I don't know. I
Speaker 1: want to boot count. Oh it was like all four
Speaker 1: they're doing. And that's when the Trap of Dafford came out.
Speaker 1: I'm playing that right now, the old car. Everybody in
Speaker 1: the car like I would have going to crazy. And
Speaker 1: we ain't know him from a can of paint. But hey,
Speaker 1: we like to do music, so so what's up with you?
Speaker 1: And Gucci? Were still on good times. We're still on
Speaker 1: good terms. I was just uh at the birthday don
Speaker 1: on the o other night, he's still in solid you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, I know. You gotta
Speaker 1: be happy to see his progression. Don't like true saying
Speaker 1: to be married as a kid and just getting his
Speaker 1: money and mine right and the man she would have
Speaker 1: come from, uh fucking picking up cans and knocking on
Speaker 1: dough to take trash. Huh impartment with a trash taking
Speaker 1: out to give us a dollar two dollar dollar film
Speaker 1: dollar for me or if it's a dollar, will bust
Speaker 1: it down fit to fit the walk to the test
Speaker 1: co get something well, I know, goose. Before we moved
Speaker 1: to something that we come from mountain part of coast,
Speaker 1: the avenue back with the Nintendo, I just steal something Nintendo.
Speaker 1: He used to let me borrow somebody. That's that's accurate
Speaker 1: description of that time period. And then we moved the
Speaker 1: something that like they moved it something at the first.
Speaker 1: But I had another buddy named Dude who I used
Speaker 1: to spend night at his house too, and they from
Speaker 1: a mountain park too, And when he moved the sathing
Speaker 1: bad that I spent the night over his house and
Speaker 1: something that but Gucca was already up. So I went
Speaker 1: home and bid my mom, like, bro let move the
Speaker 1: something valley all my friends over there. But we got
Speaker 1: the and then we moved to something that wow, big
Speaker 1: history on big facts. So some other things. Um, when
Speaker 1: you slim down? Was that was that? I know you
Speaker 1: you diabetes? Everybody I was. I was two hundred four
Speaker 1: pounds so I used to well fucking forty two. So
Speaker 1: did you did you? Did you? Did you start working out?
Speaker 1: Or you just change your whole diet? Because I mean
Speaker 1: I did change my die because with the diabetes, what
Speaker 1: you have to count it is the sugars. With the
Speaker 1: sugars is your total carbo hydrate. You have to watch
Speaker 1: the sodium because the sodium make your feet swell. Um
Speaker 1: and no, and see I just changed everything. I went
Speaker 1: from regular drinks to diet drinks. Everything died. Uh, THEMN up,
Speaker 1: all the food baked, no salt, that the season with
Speaker 1: other ship even um. And it really it's just it
Speaker 1: hit me out of nowhere because I want to say
Speaker 1: I got diagnosed with diabetes, and oh eight, I got
Speaker 1: diagnosed diabetes one week and then I got shot eight
Speaker 1: times another week a week later and then in the
Speaker 1: midst again. Shot. I'm coming from the hotpital with this
Speaker 1: new thing talking about diabetes and defaults telling me you
Speaker 1: heal different. You ain't gonna hear this ain't so be
Speaker 1: careful and watch your feet. So when I get shot,
Speaker 1: oh god, damn d a shot, I don't fuck up.
Speaker 1: I got diabetes over to be fucked in the game.
Speaker 1: And then I still got like a because the bullets
Speaker 1: they hit my right leg it uh fund us some
Speaker 1: nerves so it feels like needles when yeah, um, but
Speaker 1: I was still trying because I went to a fucking
Speaker 1: I let grad Greater hospital get me. Uh what they
Speaker 1: were getting me fit centified? All the run tiss on
Speaker 1: young people with diabetes. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what this ship will. My dad didn't have, my MoMA
Speaker 1: didn't have, but my dad side got it bad and
Speaker 1: my mom's side got it bad. Man. And when I
Speaker 1: got this ship on, like lord, why me? What the
Speaker 1: hell did I do? And then I was still cheating
Speaker 1: because I started off as type two where I was
Speaker 1: taking the form and Peter, but I'm still cheat with
Speaker 1: the candy. And then motherfucker go bad and I go
Speaker 1: to type one, so type one. You gotta stick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I stick three times a day. Shoot and see you
Speaker 1: pulled to pick your fingers so many times today. But
Speaker 1: all that fingerprink it make my hand look like a jake.
Speaker 1: You vee him like I'm just gonna shoot, you know what.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna keep God damn and my hand looking
Speaker 1: like a crack smoker, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: So I did maneuver, had maneuver. Watched I know when
Speaker 1: my sugar kind of going up because I stayed dehydrated.
Speaker 1: I keep pissing dehydrated to keep pissing, and then my
Speaker 1: bones and go to feeling like just weaker hill like
Speaker 1: you know, just you got no energy. You just wanted
Speaker 1: to slay down and just sleep, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'll be knowing it's time to shoot now. I
Speaker 1: know one thing that the diabetes ain't stop you from doing.
Speaker 1: And you're the person that got me on it. You
Speaker 1: should be the supposed person that's going to that damn papa.
Speaker 1: Those man I know that ain't stop you with that papa.
Speaker 1: If you listen to you go to Houston, if you
Speaker 1: listen to the I'm buying shit, I ain't never heardrow again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my little chur and a little being a hunter though
Speaker 1: I don't know what they like. They just for the
Speaker 1: food or because the chef do what you do in
Speaker 1: front of you, you know what. Yeah, the whole performance,
Speaker 1: I'll make the fire come out of the cones and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, that was my first time I've
Speaker 1: ever seen fire come out of a money. And if
Speaker 1: he's a stop today? What you think people remember you from?
Speaker 1: Just remember they remember O J. The majority of the
Speaker 1: people probably will remember me as the a mantle m
Speaker 1: m oh, you're talking about the quarter brit Man or
Speaker 1: something like that, you know what I mean? That's that's
Speaker 1: what I think. How how did that whole situation go
Speaker 1: down when that a little came out? Damn? I know
Speaker 1: my heart will stop when you first a soldier boy
Speaker 1: using it killed me. Call. I'm coming from like Brian,
Speaker 1: didn't let from nobody to get anything. I mean, I
Speaker 1: worked niggas might have thought you brought me in, but
Speaker 1: now I came in on my own. I came in
Speaker 1: on my own. We were just homeboy and shout and
Speaker 1: blew up for I did I come home from chain
Speaker 1: game with Boot? It was a chain game boot camp
Speaker 1: and my supter come pick me up from down the road? Um.
Speaker 1: Why was that? Um it was a French Scott State
Speaker 1: boot but in the middle of Frankie Scott State prison. Um.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what part of Georgia. It was. Down
Speaker 1: the road my senses come pick me or she like
Speaker 1: so I can caught. She had mer CD back like,
Speaker 1: oh buddy, but I don't put a CD yacht. I
Speaker 1: grabbed him, motherfuck like ohm fing to try and see.
Speaker 1: I started h it was the tray when he got
Speaker 1: with because she the CD the screat drop with wol
Speaker 1: them when really just did like that. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had good records on it whatnot. But when Home got
Speaker 1: with Big Cat and they get the tray ship, oh
Speaker 1: man for me made it like oh, I'm like, well
Speaker 1: I made it with Home, but we come from like
Speaker 1: I took but we were knocking on the door. Can't
Speaker 1: we take your trash shot? Picking up? Can't walking with
Speaker 1: the trap bag going to say the can to the
Speaker 1: aluminum spot? Yeah? And then when he made on like
Speaker 1: oh but I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try trying, but
Speaker 1: the track here yeah, And then I had my rap
Speaker 1: first route name was gold mouth and I had everything
Speaker 1: on me, everything once I get a deal everything. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that that was my first first introduce you to
Speaker 1: a O JD. You man right here, Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then I had a second following call
Speaker 1: attention on that, and I wrote that from the boot
Speaker 1: count because when you get up in the morning and
Speaker 1: the sergeant or whatever, the boot comp drill thing, if
Speaker 1: it's a male, you gotta say you're tentioning on that
Speaker 1: one sir, good morning, sir, tenching on that man, good
Speaker 1: morning man. So I made me a song attending on that,
Speaker 1: tending on that. You know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: got it from doing the boot camp time. Yeah, would
Speaker 1: you open the lever back up? Yeah? That motherfuna? What
Speaker 1: is it? Not? Well? Libor the one on It's been
Speaker 1: been through, the one on aggressive, It ain't that. It's
Speaker 1: just there. Yeah, like bigger Loans, aren't they got some ship?
Speaker 1: It's like it's some ship next door to it called um,
Speaker 1: what's the ship come from? Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's all really is Joes leaving h Yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta think about like he come front the leave back
Speaker 1: when we was on moreing again Andre feted off, standing DJ. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hard man, another boundstone in your career. Man. I
Speaker 1: know it's a little bit weird to talk about this,
Speaker 1: but how was it working with R Kelly? Like? Did
Speaker 1: you get to sit with you? Just it was some
Speaker 1: computer ship. I didn't get to meet him. I know
Speaker 1: they had put the call in and she our killy
Speaker 1: got this record. He wants me on, but he needs
Speaker 1: a hook and then um I went to oh will
Speaker 1: what it was a producer that produced a lot of
Speaker 1: record from Willie Wheel or something like that Wheel something well,
Speaker 1: And when I got over, he was playing the feat.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, motherfucking heart. He's kind of R and
Speaker 1: B s but it still got the little trap box
Speaker 1: to its like you know what? Boom. I went to
Speaker 1: riding the hook. I did one hood and I didn't
Speaker 1: really like it. I'm like, I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna fit. Our kids come talking about too much dope,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what got them turn the dope down a little bit
Speaker 1: and try to wrap a back? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Something different what I'm saying. So I walked in the
Speaker 1: club again, super Man. Hi. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that you try to keep it on some club is
Speaker 1: but not dope is all the way. Yeah, you turn
Speaker 1: that record up to yeah I did. I think I
Speaker 1: did good on that on whose phone good? And then
Speaker 1: we went to New York and shot the video and
Speaker 1: the trenches only got the New York ship different. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is. So could anybody get you the right check
Speaker 1: to sign at this point because they're gonna see this ship,
Speaker 1: they might think you're not even open to it. If
Speaker 1: somebody coming to right bad and the right situation and
Speaker 1: now you you know what I'm saying, you're right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I got to make sure that paperwork right. And
Speaker 1: that's why I fought the furgo round. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Why you're saying paper what? What rolls your last paper? Folk?
Speaker 1: Kill me? But no money, not the or the side
Speaker 1: of the trap. Make the trap say hey, I'm getting
Speaker 1: I can't getting not one coin from that, not show
Speaker 1: money what you're being the one hellp signed paperwork? But yeah,
Speaker 1: but your lawyers say in the end, the man Black
Speaker 1: hit me with to let you out there a contract
Speaker 1: so you can be free. You gotta let her have
Speaker 1: everything for the other side of the trap for your life,
Speaker 1: and ten years after your life, you lying who said
Speaker 1: who I was signed to? I I come out the
Speaker 1: hot pital to sign the paperwork. I got dirbeat. I've
Speaker 1: done or died on the folk flow with diabet can't move.
Speaker 1: My girl had to come get me and took me
Speaker 1: straight to great I'm throwing up black ship, yellow ship,
Speaker 1: just everything whatever is in my stuntch right now because
Speaker 1: ten years ain't no, it's up. Yeah, I've been. I've
Speaker 1: been away for the folks like eighteen fourteen something like.
Speaker 1: But they're saying I cannot come back and sue for
Speaker 1: the other side of the trap for my life in
Speaker 1: teen years after my life. So after you died ten
Speaker 1: years after that, my kids can try to get somebody
Speaker 1: from their dad the first who even ship business? Man,
Speaker 1: this ship business. I don't know what the business, but
Speaker 1: this ship business. WHOA. That's a tone though, blacks. Hey man,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, right, I don't know either. I
Speaker 1: don't know because I'm on the other side of the track, right,
Speaker 1: And see this big fast we speak openly that there's
Speaker 1: two sides to every story, and we don't know what
Speaker 1: the other side is true. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know I can't capt for nothing. I ain't
Speaker 1: never kept coming in this ship. I ain't capt for
Speaker 1: photo ship. I'm not from the cap now, like that's
Speaker 1: why O J. The Juice Man, really if you noticed,
Speaker 1: But I got away from the folks. It was all
Speaker 1: bad super mony stone m supermaney like. But but you
Speaker 1: know that for show that they get, nobody didn't. Nobody
Speaker 1: didn't know how to handle the business ship. Okay, Warner
Speaker 1: brother couldn't give me the money directly because I'm signed
Speaker 1: to mass A Entertainment, So basically all payments went to
Speaker 1: mass and from ms A she give me ten maybe twenty.
Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna I ain't gonna harp on. You
Speaker 1: know sometimes when there's a business, right, I think we've
Speaker 1: all been trying to I'm just trying to see like
Speaker 1: I don't see that though, how you don't see it? Okay,
Speaker 1: the high start always with the always be the back
Speaker 1: when it was so icy. Hey, they're booking their own show.
Speaker 1: I ain't come to the if mom, the O J.
Speaker 1: J Man c D got my book and Norman been
Speaker 1: doing that from day one because I know what I
Speaker 1: was trying to uh, maybe I have to do some
Speaker 1: hype man ship to get my CD wood doo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ain't treating that boom there call him my spotting the
Speaker 1: same I'm loaded CDs are I'm pressing them up myself
Speaker 1: now every midstape I did, I'm pressing them up my
Speaker 1: ship doing ten thousand cops. She coming there, bit, I
Speaker 1: got the j's on the floor bag and this ship up.
Speaker 1: I got a fucking walls and posters flyers to my
Speaker 1: own mother. She coming up. You know what it is?
Speaker 1: You see screep money, the screep money and shouted, know
Speaker 1: what he won't you know what I'm saying, woo okay boom.
Speaker 1: In the midst of we re called doing ship boom,
Speaker 1: I can't dive beat it on my first show and
Speaker 1: roaring over Gine come back on Seek Ahead, laying on
Speaker 1: the floor and there. Then they did blood Sugar nine
Speaker 1: haunted on thank God you're here. Brother. You know no,
Speaker 1: I'm a person blood not want feel but you want
Speaker 1: seventy you on the verge of some diabet that type ship.
Speaker 1: So my ship was now, honey, I'm done. Then I
Speaker 1: told I can't move screen. I can't even get up
Speaker 1: out the floor. Boom, go to the ju and let
Speaker 1: me take you to the white folk. They won't. I'm
Speaker 1: still maneuver in the street. Let me see all right, Boom,
Speaker 1: get out the hospital from the diabetes. On like a Thursday,
Speaker 1: I got shot. That next Sunday got damn boom. Now
Speaker 1: she got to come in to hopit again. But the time,
Speaker 1: you know, a crying could nigga really wounded, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're like, Jude, what are you doing? Let me
Speaker 1: get you to the white folk who do so I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, all I wanted my ship oh the
Speaker 1: way and thirty two n T. I ain't tripping on
Speaker 1: no super big money. You can really tripping about no
Speaker 1: money because I felt like I had some screep money,
Speaker 1: not in knowing you post get money and ship. He
Speaker 1: poke poke Pooguese money and signed. So boom. I come
Speaker 1: from out the highpital and I looked at there like
Speaker 1: a mama. You know what I'm saying. Okay, she got
Speaker 1: pretty eye, she like skin. She reminds you of am
Speaker 1: mama type person. Whoo whoo. So I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: when I get out of hospital from this shooting, I'm
Speaker 1: coming straight to the office to sign mhm, get out,
Speaker 1: go down, crichid and something like that long table. Everybody
Speaker 1: in the motherfucker signed the paper, everybody clapping, crying, happy
Speaker 1: wood woo. Then I did the show on the Christchid
Speaker 1: like a day later, not knowing the paperwork was out bad.
Speaker 1: I signed it with nobody around. No lord, you know
Speaker 1: that like oh the weed come on with you say
Speaker 1: you can do it? They do all I want to
Speaker 1: Old William and thirty two n T on my seat.
Speaker 1: M hm, so you you you would you say you
Speaker 1: you now? In hindsight, man, I approached the business wrong.
Speaker 1: I think there's another side of it. But and then
Speaker 1: on top of that screen, I was fucking just trying
Speaker 1: to be the artist, like I didn't build relationships with
Speaker 1: certain motherfucker like radio personality look like key people. I'm
Speaker 1: going out with you say dude, go here all right boom.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing an artist ship. I don't want to
Speaker 1: know to be it. Yeah yeah, because I'm thinking ship
Speaker 1: going right right. But the actually at Bright I didn't
Speaker 1: make no money off that. Damn You know. Men as
Speaker 1: they come from me, they fucking two fitted for a beat.
Speaker 1: Two means they kind of feel a little bit apart
Speaker 1: because he didn't know. I didn't make not one coin
Speaker 1: from the album, and they like, damn, you shudn't pay
Speaker 1: for the beat. What them folk did was too three
Speaker 1: before or my best mix tapes, got the best songs
Speaker 1: and made an album. They didn't pay for beats, they
Speaker 1: didn't pay for mixing the master. They got stuff that
Speaker 1: I paid for you my face cart, for studio time
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and then made an album out
Speaker 1: three folk mixtapes, you see what I'm saying. So they
Speaker 1: felt like damn. A majority of the album was always a's.
Speaker 1: So what would you say to a young nigger so
Speaker 1: that because the past is the past and nothing can
Speaker 1: do healthy, you know, saying you get money, what would
Speaker 1: you say to a young nigger to prevent another young
Speaker 1: nigga from having to go to that man? Take your
Speaker 1: paperwork to somebody. Don't sign out the gate j A
Speaker 1: putting up no man, Let somebody who know ain't got
Speaker 1: common sense with music terms inside of a contract and
Speaker 1: let them oversee and con fine through. So what was
Speaker 1: in this ship? Man? I don't know. I just signed
Speaker 1: to that day like you had to see it now,
Speaker 1: like it was all bad like, and then on top
Speaker 1: of that, she was supposed to get you know, manager
Speaker 1: get but on the show ship out thousand, the show
Speaker 1: back then, and then that that wouldn't even really no money.
Speaker 1: But I'm doing third Friday, said Sunning. So I'm picking
Speaker 1: up santified hunting. I ain't looking at the fact that
Speaker 1: the first getting soaked up somewhere else, But ain't nobody
Speaker 1: on Stay Hole they looked so doing all the rapping.
Speaker 1: Swint like me, why here you getting fifth? I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm paying her filthy, but being on top of it,
Speaker 1: I'm paying the road manage to twenty. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: clarity because I don't see That's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I don't see I don't see documentaries. I just just
Speaker 1: for clarity. This is just for clarity. There wasn't saying
Speaker 1: as there wasn't Jackson, there wasn't No, there wasn't the boy.
Speaker 1: Oh that was there a big if we just want
Speaker 1: to answer this, was there a big money advantage jury,
Speaker 1: advanced car house, advanced ship like that? Because I don't
Speaker 1: see other documentaries with the handling your business your sheep
Speaker 1: when when I first signed what they'll give me ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she gave me team and not cool with that cam
Speaker 1: like I don't need the money, but come on with
Speaker 1: But then on top of the team, you gotta show,
Speaker 1: gotta show Friday. You got what I'm said, do what
Speaker 1: you're picking up. But you gotta think about like a
Speaker 1: nigga agree with certain ship until they find But it
Speaker 1: was saying, see like this thing means they sent and
Speaker 1: sent would probably agreed greed upon. I get. I get
Speaker 1: what you're saying. What I'm saying, this is what niggas do.
Speaker 1: Niggas got that coming something. And then the mother tell
Speaker 1: you like I gonn we're gonna bust everything ain't down,
Speaker 1: but need to tell you're gonna bust everything down. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't want to do on the sweating and ship
Speaker 1: you go to feeling like this, but you agree to
Speaker 1: this ship and we're fucked up. What you I'm talking
Speaker 1: about never agreed to that. I'm not agreed, but listen,
Speaker 1: I'm want to keep it, RealD with it. If you
Speaker 1: went and perform, you agree to it. If I wouldn't
Speaker 1: another time, I didn't know it was fifteen thousand until
Speaker 1: I get the Lloyd's involved. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: getting I'm making Johnny Pool contracts now because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put the loryer on your head. Oh so that you said,
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're thinking, you're thinking you're going to get
Speaker 1: the SENTI again, Yeah, boy, the road knowing about their
Speaker 1: first So when I do, when I do find out
Speaker 1: the deposit, she hit me with old juice. That's going
Speaker 1: back into the company. You know, they helped the company
Speaker 1: builds you. But I don't own a company, right, the
Speaker 1: company in that mind? So why am my parents for
Speaker 1: coming to death not mine? Yeah? Yeah, damn. So you
Speaker 1: would say to a young nigga, get get a lawyer,
Speaker 1: read your ship, but please not another another thing to
Speaker 1: let me say this. Let me say this to the
Speaker 1: young niggas or whatever. It's important to have a lawyer
Speaker 1: to read your ship. But the most even more important
Speaker 1: part about having a lawyer is having a lawyer that's
Speaker 1: independent of the people, that of the people for giving
Speaker 1: you this paperwork. Because if you get a lawyer that's
Speaker 1: InCor hoots with the people that's giving you the paperwork,
Speaker 1: you're double fucking, which you might get double back a
Speaker 1: few years later. Time he was a conflict of entry.
Speaker 1: But ship the mind gone and where they're gonna get
Speaker 1: it from. So if you sign artists. I tried, but
Speaker 1: I ain't made no coring off of nigga didn't do
Speaker 1: right all. I asked the nigger to do Bro, do
Speaker 1: open my bro. We feel like we too be a
Speaker 1: to do open mic. Bro, We've been on the road
Speaker 1: with you. Damn. Then that's thirty two entertainment. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't hear you feel like you to be able to
Speaker 1: do open Michael. You've been on the road with me.
Speaker 1: You've been on the road with me. This is my ship.
Speaker 1: Nobody to know you. I'm trying to make motherfucker's no,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you what even though I can't.
Speaker 1: Niggas can't say I'm gonna do what you did because
Speaker 1: them timeing in here. We need no social media when
Speaker 1: we were gonna leave. But I was just getting on
Speaker 1: a perspective how I started. I'm going every open mic
Speaker 1: I can, and I'm paying the DJ drink with us.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna perform. I'm gonna perform and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw some money too. Yeah, y'all gonna see this ship man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: j Man. I might got a bad God damnit, bitchy
Speaker 1: my truck. I signed on the phone. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: ain't nobody ain't I ain't. Nobody gave me ship no
Speaker 1: hand U really, that's what's up? Man? Before you're gonna
Speaker 1: make a little dounce with a big fast So the
Speaker 1: streets want to know. Why wasn't there ever no o
Speaker 1: j the juice man, my goofball lass listening to niggas
Speaker 1: like holiday, they pulling up even though you pulled up on,
Speaker 1: I pulled up on, pulled up. You did me. I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, niggas in my ear screen, but they
Speaker 1: always go ahead, do him first, do him first, and
Speaker 1: then in the missile doing them. He called the next
Speaker 1: nigga like a drama. Do him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But at the whole time I should have did a screen,
Speaker 1: but the wrong people in my in my ear just
Speaker 1: a little and then they read the perfect time because
Speaker 1: screen got the streets. I was and you know I
Speaker 1: won't be. But I was a little touchy about that
Speaker 1: ship because I was a ben screen. You hate rappers,
Speaker 1: I don't hate rappers. Touch you what you when it
Speaker 1: comes to ship, I'm a fan. Do remember, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember I walk up to you a
Speaker 1: crucial low performance. I walk up to you as me
Speaker 1: and real like bro fucking with you, like I'm listening
Speaker 1: to this ship, I'm working with you. You might have
Speaker 1: been hot, what do you might not remember? But I
Speaker 1: was a fan. We're on the way back talking about
Speaker 1: you know, the low tap was big, gonna be big
Speaker 1: for everybody, but we don't figure out how to do it,
Speaker 1: how to get the ship out there, the networking, all
Speaker 1: this and the ship. So I'm ford to man, you
Speaker 1: hit me with the yeah, I don't do this holiday
Speaker 1: and drama to come back, and god damn, the wrong
Speaker 1: people man want with with the scree is like, it's
Speaker 1: so much to try to do. You're doing screen any
Speaker 1: and you're so low. I had wrong people, had wrong people. Bro,
Speaker 1: Everything happened when it's supposed to. So let the record
Speaker 1: be shown that that motherfucker the only way screaming on
Speaker 1: the way. The records are ready. I just fine tune
Speaker 1: everything to give them car radio, car radio ready, club
Speaker 1: speaker ready, and it's trapped sale phone ready inune video
Speaker 1: though I'm gonna look step behind video. We had to
Speaker 1: use this one video. I'm in the preparations of doing
Speaker 1: a couple of videos from the tape. We gotta add
Speaker 1: video I'm gonna put. I'm gonna put like twel song
Speaker 1: maybe a five video. Okay, now I'm telling I already
Speaker 1: got this so online, dude, I got the business one,
Speaker 1: all right, come find you. Shouts to drinking for putting
Speaker 1: the play big shout out. So like, so, what would
Speaker 1: you say to a nigger if he if he said
Speaker 1: to you or just some bober shop talk man. Trapping
Speaker 1: dead and all the trapped music, ship dead, all that
Speaker 1: ship ain't no money and that ship what would you
Speaker 1: say to trapping dead? Mit? You crazy? Why this ship
Speaker 1: ain't gonna die? It's money to be made in both words?
Speaker 1: Why you think white white? What you think inspired people
Speaker 1: to change that part of the hustle or some people
Speaker 1: won't even go that way like they because I mean,
Speaker 1: it ain't for everybody, like it ain't for everybody. Um,
Speaker 1: the streets, the cold and screets don't love you, but
Speaker 1: you can't get mine out of I ain't no love
Speaker 1: and screets, but you can get if you know how
Speaker 1: to do you and maneuver, you can be successful in
Speaker 1: musical screen. And that's say, man, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, have a nice trip you out. That's it's
Speaker 1: coming to a space where at some of that traffic
Speaker 1: is legal. Like yeah, nigg we I seen that we went.
Speaker 1: We don't need on the federal level. No moment. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: I can't be mad at day I got sent some
Speaker 1: of them nigga home. They rail road behind it. True
Speaker 1: how they did it like that. Y'all don't decriminalized it.
Speaker 1: But y'all got people still inconserting you, right, and then
Speaker 1: get them volts on they legalized. They need to get
Speaker 1: them volts on. Reparations. I was gonna make something legal
Speaker 1: that you don't got no game some of your life away.
Speaker 1: For give me something. It is not ge nigger reparations
Speaker 1: the slaves reparations that they acting like they want to.
Speaker 1: It should be some type of loans put in place
Speaker 1: for the nigga's bed. They out them, Shiro nigga. Y'all
Speaker 1: locked me up for this ship. Forgot to get out.
Speaker 1: They're gonna come out cont the feelings right if they
Speaker 1: do that more exactly, I think if they do the
Speaker 1: more that it expunges the records people they do that, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so I hope we can put it in the atmosphere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shut it out there. What you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people, what you want to say to the streets. Man, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: you man ain't ain't did you man ain't gone? I still,
Speaker 1: I mean, I got hell of music, gut that I've
Speaker 1: been putting it out just it wasn't a real bit
Speaker 1: bag and behind me show. A lot of people might
Speaker 1: have missed it. But the true jew Man fans they
Speaker 1: do be, they do grab, they do grab, and I
Speaker 1: just want to let everybody know, man, they're still thirty
Speaker 1: two e and teeth for like bit shout out to everybody.
Speaker 1: They're wrought with me and I wrought with them. Jay Black,
Speaker 1: Dave Screen, I ain't know y'all name shot. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm just aside. I'm sold, bro, I'm real. Third,
Speaker 1: I moved solo dolo. Um, I am gonna put vision
Speaker 1: was with the music. Ain't I pick its wolf? Gonna
Speaker 1: call you now, gonna call you that don't go to
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I got I'm back motivated. Go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm back motivated. That's what it is. Man. Thanks y'all
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