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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? Job? Middle Cops Ring Out

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Speaker 1: podcast back at it again, recording this on a Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours actually two hours right now, at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock on Monday, before the Game five of the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Word on the Street, Kevin Durant coming back.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been some rumblings in these parts that

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Speaker 1: the Warriors, you know, thought that he could have gone

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Speaker 1: Game four. He either tapped out on him. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He can kind of redeem himself tonight. So if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: I thought about putting some money on the series. You

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Speaker 1: get the Warriors. It's like a four to one underdog.

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Speaker 1: Probably not gonna pull the trigger when you're listening to

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Speaker 1: this either, you know, Tuesday or Wednesday, you'd be like

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Speaker 1: Middle Coop. You could have made some easy money or

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Speaker 1: you could have just flushed your money down the toilet.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna back off, but

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Speaker 1: I am gonna. I am gonna make some bets later

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Speaker 1: this week. US Open. I love the US Open. Uh

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Speaker 1: can't wait. I'm actually going on right ay, just as

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Speaker 1: a fan, probably hang out, drinks some beers, HEAs some food,

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Speaker 1: watch my man, Tiger not really my man, just a

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Speaker 1: fan and we've never met. We've walked by each other

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, very very close. He actually looks

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Speaker 1: kind of like, ah, I wouldn't say a mythological figure,

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Speaker 1: but when you see him in person, you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: let's Tiger Woods. He's got this perfectly little small waist.

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Speaker 1: She's tall, linear, going to my scattering report, but fired

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Speaker 1: up for the US open, fired up for the show.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of the last week of of NFL

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Speaker 1: stuff before basically the summer hits and the summer for

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Speaker 1: NFL people, scouts and coaches, they basically just get a

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Speaker 1: month off, like you just get a month or maybe

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Speaker 1: even a little more some depending on when you report

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Speaker 1: for training camp, like four or five weeks, where you

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Speaker 1: Once training camp it's you're kind of going till the draft,

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Speaker 1: know Belichick let the team off. I think this morning

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Speaker 1: Monday morning, just get out of here, so they're starting

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Speaker 1: PREXE or starting their vacation a week early. I don't

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Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan with the Niners. They just practice Tuesday

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Speaker 1: basically get to bounce. But I'm pretty excited for the show.

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Speaker 1: Carson Went signs big contract. I'm gonna dive into that

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Speaker 1: here in a second. Joe Douglas and the Houston kind

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Speaker 1: I guess it might not be out of left field

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Speaker 1: if you're a Houston fan, but for for us that

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Speaker 1: and just why. I think it's a little overhype some

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Speaker 1: of these GM movements. And then, uh, a lot of

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Speaker 1: players in the dock way I can finally say his name, Clowney.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Chris Jones of the Chiefs. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I'm missing some guys. I know Malcolm Jenkins showed up,

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Speaker 1: but just to sitting out mini camp to quote unquote

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Speaker 1: bit later. And then, of course Middlecoff mail bag. Slide

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Speaker 1: up into my d m s at John Middlecoff on

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Speaker 1: You slide in it at John Middlecoff, which is my name,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll answer your questions here on the Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail back. But I'm gonna start with this the Carson

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Speaker 1: For most humans, including myself, unless you like own a business,

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Speaker 1: it'll be the biggest purchase you individually ever make. Now

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Speaker 1: But an individual purchase at the time of sale real

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Speaker 1: It literally is never coming back. Like real estate, you

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Speaker 1: come back, like if you've invested in stocks, it'll come back,

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Speaker 1: down well right now when it comes to quarterbacks, and really,

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Speaker 1: whenever you get the opportunity to sign a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: acquire him had to give him eighty five million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: a salary cap when you're talking twenty thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: one guy really interested. And the way I get him

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Speaker 1: even more interested is I got his competition up the

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Speaker 1: road and I said, well, listen, if you don't sign,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the other dealership right up about

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Speaker 1: twenty miles away from you, and we'll hit you in

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Speaker 1: the teeth because it works. But I gave you the

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Speaker 1: first option. Now, these players don't necessarily have that type

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Speaker 1: leverage because they can't. They're not a free agent. They

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Speaker 1: can't go shop a deal. But the one way they

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Speaker 1: are able to gain leverage is by not showing and

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Speaker 1: giving the threat that they won't show around games. To me,

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Speaker 1: missing training camp or excuse me, these offseason mini camps

438
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Speaker 1: means nothing. Do you have the stones to show once

439
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: the pads come on and they can legitimately because they

440
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: can start finding you in August once training camp officially starts.

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald they got big deals why because

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Speaker 1: it was clear they weren't showing up week one. And

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Speaker 1: if you have the balls, the stones, and the wherewithal

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00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: to get close to week one, you can scare teams.

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Speaker 1: But is Clowney not gonna show up until week one?

446
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Speaker 1: Is the Dockway not gonna show up until week one?

447
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones who's under contract for another year, He's just

448
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Speaker 1: not gonna show up till week one? Maybe one of

449
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Speaker 1: them might like Clowney, you are you're not gonna show

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Speaker 1: up week one? The franchise tag, last time I checked,

451
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Speaker 1: is a pretty big number now if you're willing to

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Speaker 1: go that far, because the thing that gains the most

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Speaker 1: leverage typically, and I've negotiated some very small deals. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure many of you have negotiated a lot bigger deals

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Speaker 1: than ever I have. But once you do that, when

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Speaker 1: you slow play someone, it creates a nervousness when you

457
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: don't reply, when you don't show up, they go, God,

458
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe this guy really is seriously And I think Khalil

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Speaker 1: Mack and Aaron Donald played it perfectly last year. Like

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Speaker 1: clil Mack knew part of the Raider fans, Well, he

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Speaker 1: didn't show up. He knew you guys weren't going to

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Speaker 1: pay him. He knew his market value, and the moment

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald signed, he knew the minimum number was like

464
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Speaker 1: eighty seven million dollars. With these guys, it's a little trickier.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones is probably the best of the bunch. The

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Speaker 1: Dockway is pretty good too. Both of them are really good.

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Speaker 1: So you're talking huge money, not Khalil Macaron donald money,

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Speaker 1: but probably like seventy five million dollars. I'm not paying

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Speaker 1: Clowney that much money, so like Clowning, you can know

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Speaker 1: show I don't really care. I'd probably trade Clowney. But

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Speaker 1: these other two guys I like on my team, but

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Speaker 1: they're gonna cost an astronomical amount of money and they're

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Speaker 1: not signing team friendly deals, so it becomes a little tricky.

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Speaker 1: But if both of them want to truly get the deal,

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Speaker 1: do not show up. Do not show up, because they

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Speaker 1: can tell you all you want will negotiating good faith.

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Speaker 1: That's just not really how the NFL works. Now. I

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Speaker 1: get it's hard for these players. It's hard to hold

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Speaker 1: out right, especially when you when you start getting nervous.

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Speaker 1: You still, as a player make a lot of money

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Speaker 1: even if you're a second round pick. That I mean

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Speaker 1: a million or two million dollars is still a lot

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Speaker 1: of money to a lot of individuals. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: have seventy five million dollars potentially to make. But you

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Speaker 1: start getting We're all humans and for most of these

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Speaker 1: these guys aren't businessmen. Their football players, so they're being

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Speaker 1: told what to do by their agent, and not every

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Speaker 1: move works out perfectly, like Levian Bell just didn't show up. Like,

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Speaker 1: as I've said over and over, it is one of

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Speaker 1: the dumbest moves in the history of football. Like Clowney,

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Speaker 1: do not pull Levian Bell because whatever his franchise tag is,

492
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Speaker 1: like fifteen sixteen million dollars, you're never getting that back, right,

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Speaker 1: You're just not now someone you would get money as

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Speaker 1: a free agent. But you get money as a free

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Speaker 1: agent and play on that now you risk injury. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but let's call it what it is. In the history

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Speaker 1: of football, the amount of guys per year that have

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Speaker 1: a career ending injury of blue chip players is very small,

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Speaker 1: very small, maybe one a year, sometimes less. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's really tricky right now. I would say at

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Speaker 1: the moment the group of guys that are no shows,

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Speaker 1: and you've seen a lot of guys show up, like

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Speaker 1: Levian Odell, and the grant of those guys are under

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Speaker 1: they've signed for contracts, so they wouldn't even be in

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Speaker 1: this category. But Malcolm Jenkins is in this category a

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Speaker 1: little different because he's the older version of these guys.

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Speaker 1: He wants a new contract, but he showed the day

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Speaker 1: to me. When you don't show for for voluntary minicamp,

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Speaker 1: it definitely puts the antenna of the contract negotiators up.

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Speaker 1: It creates like, Okay, there may be something here, but

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Speaker 1: you give it all back if you show up the

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Speaker 1: moment training camp starts. You have to hold out multiple

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Speaker 1: weeks into training camp, even if you do not intend

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Speaker 1: to miss a game, you have to give them the

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Speaker 1: threat of potentially missing a game. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: these three guys well enough, uh to know. I think

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Speaker 1: Clowney is in a tricky spot. Like Clowney, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm not crying tears for you. You're the number one

519
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Speaker 1: overall pick and what was that five years ago? So

520
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: the contract he signed was like twenty six million dollars

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00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: and that doesn't even include the fifth year option that

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Speaker 1: he played on last year. So what's clown He made

523
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Speaker 1: like thirty forty million dollars already, and what's this franchise tag?

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Speaker 1: You know, if if if A mars his thirteen, Clowney

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Speaker 1: has got to be higher than that. So the franchise

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Speaker 1: to mr. He's on the fifth year option. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I got my numbers mixed up, but his franchise tag

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Speaker 1: number is is pretty big. So this is a guy

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Speaker 1: like Chris Jones is the second round pick the Dockway,

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Speaker 1: has never signed a big deal like clown he has

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Speaker 1: already made cash. That's why to me, he's kind of

532
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: in a different situation. He's also the worst of the bunch,

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Speaker 1: even though he is a really good player, he's just

534
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Speaker 1: a limited player. Like I'm sorry, Clowney, you're not getting

535
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Speaker 1: a and Aaron Donald deal. Here's how much money clown

536
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Speaker 1: he has made clowning. He's made fifty one million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, he's made thirty five million dollars and he

538
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Speaker 1: scheduled to make sixteen million dollars this year. So if

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Speaker 1: he plays this year on the franchise tag, he'll have

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Speaker 1: made fifty one point five million dollars, like clowning. You're

541
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: not like Dak Prescott, Chris Jones, you know, like the

542
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: sweet guys that were after first round, and I'm not

543
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: worrying about you, Like, bro, just play for your sixteen

544
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Speaker 1: million dollars. The other two guys, he gets a little tricky,

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Speaker 1: but if they really want to cash in, they got

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Speaker 1: to hold out. And history would show you a most

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Speaker 1: guys showback up. Let's get into the middlecoff mail bag,

548
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Speaker 1: and I gotta tell the truth here. I finished the

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Speaker 1: first couple of segments and then it was like thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes away from game time, and I realized, well, I

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Speaker 1: kind of want to make a little dinner before the

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Speaker 1: game starts. So I went to make some dinner. And

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Speaker 1: then I was like, well, I kind of want to

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Speaker 1: watch the game, and I'm recording this now the game

555
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: has ended. So that was pretty nuts. It looks like

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00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant knock on wood but doesn't look good, might

557
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: have torn as achilles. He looked incredible when he came

558
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: back and just an absolute I mean, what a gut

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Speaker 1: check win by. I'll say this and people think I'm

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00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: biased or whatever because I I didn't grow up a

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Speaker 1: Warriors fan. I say it all the time. I I

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Speaker 1: enjoy the Warriors because of Steph, Clay and Draymond. I've

563
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: watched every game they've played together for the last six years,

564
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: literally every minute of every game they've played, and especially

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Speaker 1: Steph and Clay and Draymond too. But Draymonds different because

566
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Speaker 1: he doesn't shoot. But those two guys. You talk about championship, metal, championship, blood,

567
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: all the cliche bs that we kind of make fun of,

568
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: it's real with these guys. I mean, they might lose,

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: but they weren't going out like chumps. Obviously Kevin gave

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00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: him a little left. But those two guys, and for

571
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: his I guess harmless as the name sounds, the Splash Bros.

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00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: Those two guys are stone cold killers. Now they make

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Speaker 1: some terrible decisions down the stretch, turnovers, but that was

574
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Speaker 1: a hell of a win. I still put a little

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Speaker 1: money on the Warriors before the uh before the game.

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Speaker 1: Once I saw some Kevin Durant highlights of him practicing.

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Speaker 1: I ended up doing it. And then he goes out,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably screwed. Like I don't think they're gonna win

579
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Speaker 1: the championship. I kind of feels like Toronto wins it

580
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: in game seven, but that was that was pretty intense game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the middle Coff mail back. That's why

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Speaker 1: I came back. That's a great part about podcasts. You know,

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Speaker 1: I can start a podcast like seven hours ago, I

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Speaker 1: can go off and do other things, and then I

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Speaker 1: can come back and talk about what had happened. Okay,

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Speaker 1: uh Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff slide up in

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram d MS. With the recent trend of

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Speaker 1: spread quarterbacks having success in the NFL, would you attribute

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: their success to being better prepared coming out of the

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Speaker 1: college or NFL offense coaches, or better prepared coming out

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Speaker 1: of college or NFL coaches being more progressive. I understand

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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: it certainly is a combination of both, and each case

593
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: is different, But who would you give more credit to.

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: I think it's more that NFL coaches are being more

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00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: open minded than quarterbacks coming out more prepared. Now, I

596
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: do think they're more prepared in the sense that a

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00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of people run spread concepts, so the offense parallels

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Speaker 1: each other. Uh. Now, I also think there are some

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Speaker 1: probably arguments to be made these guys are more prepared

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00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: because they specialize on a sport. So in high school

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00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: they're just throwing more of the seven on seven camps.

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Speaker 1: You're getting more reps. You know the Malcolm Gladwell ten

603
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: thousand hours. It's no different than anything you do, right,

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00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: leading meetings, doing podcasts, coaching football, playing football, the more

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00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: you do something, and football is the ultimate example of

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00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: this because in the sport, all we talk about during

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Speaker 1: the week is reps, reps, reps, reps, reps, practice, reps,

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Speaker 1: game reps. All we want is reps. Just keep stacking

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Speaker 1: the reps. Well, these guys, these quarterbacks, and I had

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Speaker 1: Andy on Andy Reid, no big deal. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've heard of him, Hey, coach cancer Chiefs last

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Speaker 1: year talking about my homes, which we'll get them again

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Speaker 1: sometimes once after summer break that hopefully I know he's listened.

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Speaker 1: So of coach read if you're listening, we want to

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Speaker 1: have you on that these He said that Patrick Mahomes

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00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: was pretty easy to evaluate because not like he was

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00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: throwing a seventeen times a game. He was throwing it

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Speaker 1: like sixty some. I mean that one game against Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: through like eighty. So he just had so much to

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Speaker 1: go off of uh and again, I do though give

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Speaker 1: the coaches a lot of credit for being open minded,

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Speaker 1: but I you know, I got went to forty nine

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Speaker 1: practice the other day talking to Kittle, and we had

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Speaker 1: McGlinchey on my other podcast. You want to hear that

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00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey is the man. Kyle's playbook is pretty intense,

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: you know it. It's a it's not your Lincoln Riley playbook.

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00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: So again, kind of cop out answer. I'm going combination

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00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: of it all, but probably a little more credit, slightly

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Speaker 1: more credit to the coaches for being open minded, and

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00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: a decent amount of credit to the players for getting

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Speaker 1: more reps. I am wondering how a scouting department is organized,

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Speaker 1: how targets are determined, and how each team's needs are

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Speaker 1: communicated to the scouting staff. Tape example, the Raiders. How

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Speaker 1: do may I grout gruden identify who to scout, who

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00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: should scout them? And how much time and effort should

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Speaker 1: put into a particular prospect. When a new staff comes

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Speaker 1: to power an organization, how much energy is spent building

638
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Speaker 1: their ideal scouting department. That's a good question. Are the

639
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Speaker 1: same scouts who draft prospects used to scout players on

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Speaker 1: practice squads or roster bubbles. Okay, I gotta let me

641
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Speaker 1: take a drink of water. This is a deep question

642
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Speaker 1: on the most basic level. When you scout the college players,

643
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: you scout every player equally, and then as you get

644
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Speaker 1: probably to December January, you start isolating the players the

645
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Speaker 1: team wants. But basically, starting now watching tape up until

646
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: late in the season, you're evaluating every player on the

647
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Speaker 1: team to the nth degree, you know, and that includes

648
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Speaker 1: underclassmen they tell you were coming out, So you're putting

649
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of effort into every player. That's why scouts

650
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: work so much. So you know everything about every prospect

651
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: and then you start isolating guys around the Senior Bowl

652
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: and then going into the combine, you have an idea

653
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: of who you like and who you don't like, so

654
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: it's just a process. You start with a huge blank canvas,

655
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: you put all the names on them, and then guys

656
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of dwindle each other out. Now, obviously, if you

657
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: have a scheme as a scout, like your team runs

658
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: a four three or your team runs a three four.

659
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Your team has press corners, your team has zone corners.

660
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Your team is a zone running team. Your team is

661
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: a power running team. You look for certain attributes in

662
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: different players. No different than the free agency. Your pro

663
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: scouts evaluate every free agent and then once you get

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Speaker 1: you know, around the Senior Bowl. Really with with free

665
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: agents is probably a little early, you start isolating the

666
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: guys you like and the guys you might need. So

667
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: it's it's really a process. You always evaluate every player

668
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: and then you go from there. Now coaches will have

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Speaker 1: players that they have a soft spot for, players they've

670
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: previously coached. I mean, there are a lot of variables,

671
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: but on the most basic level, you have a guy

672
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Speaker 1: doing every region and your pro scouts doing every team.

673
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Like you evaluate every player in the league every year,

674
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: so you have a new grade on every player, just

675
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: like you evaluate every draft prospect who is coming out

676
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: every single year. So you've evaluated every player. Now you

677
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: might only like of that group, but you've evaluate a

678
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the available players. Now, certain teams have

679
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: certain you know, characteristics and things that they check yes

680
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: or no on guys to throw them off the board.

681
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: So it's it's always different. But and then the right

682
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: and the practice squad. As a I was a pro scout,

683
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: you are constantly evaluating the practice squad players, and most

684
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: of the practice squad players are evaluated by the time

685
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: the season starts, because that's where you spend all your

686
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: time in the preseason evaluating the roster bubble eyes. So

687
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: when the practice squads are developed, you have an idea

688
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: when the claiming you know, the big waiver wire comes out,

689
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: you know the guys you like, and then the guys

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00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: that you aren't able to claim or didn't need to

691
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: claim at the time, that you had a good grade

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00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: on that go onto the practice squads. They're not gonna

693
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: play anymore because if you're a practice squad guy, you're

694
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: you don't have any more game film once the season starts.

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Speaker 1: So once the season starts, if it's like week eight

696
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Speaker 1: and you need a corner and you go look at

697
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: your practice squad corner list and you go, we really

698
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: like this corner on the Minnesota Vikings practice squad, well,

699
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: then you can claim him. You know when I say

700
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: claim him, you can just sign him. Now you gotta

701
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: put him on your fifty three man roster. Now in turn,

702
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: like the Minnesota Vikings may just keep them and elevating

703
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster, but if you want to

704
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: take that guy to the to your fifty three man roster,

705
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: and they don't, he's yours, that means you have to

706
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: cut a player. But usually when you do that it's

707
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: because of an injury, and sometimes it's cutting a guy.

708
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's I mean a fairly complicated process,

709
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: but I think on its most base level, you're evaluating

710
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: every player you know. And that's like when I did

711
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: the West Coast, I evaluated every player we had to

712
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Shaun and Jeremy Macklin. I had to spend just as

713
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: much time on markas Lee as I did on Ziggy Onza,

714
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, just as much time on Brandon Cooks as

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Speaker 1: I did on Star Low. Totally lately, you just you

716
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: spend I could never say his name, It's called Star.

717
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, though, You just evaluate Like

718
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: my buddies in the SEC. You're evaluating the top quarterbacks

719
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: just like you are. The safety is just like you are,

720
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. So every players evaluated, then the players

721
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: your GM and your assistant GM like, and then your

722
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: coaching staff kind of comes into the process after the

723
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: season starts liking. Then you dwindle it down from there,

724
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Speaker 1: and when you start like, if you run a four

725
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: three defense, you know that you're not gonna need a

726
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: three fifty pound nose tackle. And if you run a

727
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: three four defense, that three that you know nose tackle,

728
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: even though there aren't that many in college football anymore,

729
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: is more intriguing to those guys like you might not

730
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: have to right now, you would have the right em,

731
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: but you would just say don't fit. Hopefully they'll answer

732
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: the question how far can you see justin fields? Take

733
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes this year, why aren't they getting

734
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: mentioned as the top teams in the country to compete

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00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: for the championship. I'm pretty sure maybe I'm wrong on this.

736
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Speaker 1: I might have to look, I'm just doing this off

737
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: the cuff. Is he eligible to play? I thought they

738
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: had to sit out my beef with him, And again

739
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: I just watched a very very little bit of him

740
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: at Georgia was that he was highly inaccurate. Now if

741
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Day can coach him up and get his accuracy going,

742
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: because he clearly wasn't an elite athlete, five star recruit,

743
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: and he's got a big arm, but it felt like

744
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: the ball he had no clue where it was going now.

745
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: There is no disputing the roster on Ohio State. I

746
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: don't even need to know the players they have. I

747
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: just know they got sweet players. So if he can

748
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: just be more accurate than he was at Georgia, he

749
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: should be a really good player. So yeah, I mean

750
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I whenever, if he's eligible to play this year, i'd go, yeah,

751
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: they could win the national championship. If he's not, then

752
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: they'll be fine because the guy whoever they're starting is

753
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I don't remember remember where I

754
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: heard it from originally, but one idea I really loved

755
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: was more or less taken away three or four weeks

756
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: of the preseason, adding two weeks of the regular season,

757
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: each team plays seventeen games, with two bye weeks, eight home,

758
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: eight away, and an international game for every team. Have

759
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: these games played all over the place instead of just

760
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: London in Mexico City for two weeks, you'd have an

761
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: international games plays piratically in the week, with a specific

762
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: bye week before or after for every team. That way,

763
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: no teams get an extra home game, no team loses

764
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: a home game. I kind of like where this is going?

765
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? My first reaction is I kind

766
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: of like, now we got Mexico, we got London. Where

767
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: else could we go? We go Canada, we go Japan,

768
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: we could go Hawaii, we could go Africa's pretty far away,

769
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: we go like Germany, Spain. Yeah, I'm not opposed to

770
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: it at all. I actually kind of like that idea

771
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: that means every team gets the equal amount of home games.

772
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: I I like that With the recent contract sense for

773
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, is it a little absurd that a hundred

774
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: and seventy million is guaranteed? Not saying he isn't a

775
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: great talent, but with the Tennessee to get injured. I

776
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: talked about it early. I just think it's simple. It's

777
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: simple economics. You know, he's a much better player than

778
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and once Kirk Cousins signs for that number,

779
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: and then when the two defensive guys signed for that number,

780
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: now I know those guys haven't missed time like he has.

781
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: But again, it's I watched the Raiders play a preseason game,

782
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: or excuse me, a postseason game against the Houston Texans

783
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: with Khalil Mack who that day him and Clowney were

784
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: the two best players on the field. Mac was dominant,

785
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: they get eleven tackles. He had like two tackles for

786
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: loss in a sack. He was unreal. I mean, he

787
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: was a man amongst boys beside Clowney. But they didn't

788
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: have a quarterback and they got their ass kicked. So

789
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: I just think the quarterbacks means so much just the

790
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: consta douing business. Why do so many NFL execs have

791
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: their heads up their asses? I like the way this

792
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: question is starting. They get paid millions of dollars and

793
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: only need to focus on football, yet they lack basic

794
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: NFL knowledge. Example, Jets GM debacle, Chargers moved to l A,

795
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Raiders hiring j I think you mean John, But did

796
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: they hire Ja Maybe? I don't know about that. Cardinals

797
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: Rosen Giants nineteen draft Ravens Lamar. I agree. I think

798
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: this is what makes sports so much fun to talk

799
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: about because we see things happening all over the sports

800
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: landscape in any sport baseball, basketball, football, but probably more

801
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: in football and basketball than than baseball. Now with the

802
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: analytics that are just I mean jaw dropping, Lee insane,

803
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones at six, the Ravens going all in on

804
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: a wingty offense with Lamar Jackson, the Cardinals and just

805
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: their debacle. I wouldn't even just say Rosen, I would

806
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: say hiring Cliff Kingsbury keeping the GM just insane the

807
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Jets about for sure. I don't really have an answer

808
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: to it. Well, one answer would be, I think you

809
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys get fired now more than ever,

810
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: quicker like the the the length of their tenure can

811
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: be ripped out from underneath them at any moment, GM

812
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: or coach. I also, I think the reason for that,

813
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: probably now more than ever, is money. Uh, every team

814
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: has a lot of money. The league is making so

815
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: much money. Every team is getting free media money. Now

816
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: it's not free media money because you work for it

817
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: with the games, but all these teams, like buying a

818
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: GM out for ten million dollars is nothing to him,

819
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: It's a line item. Well, back in the day, like

820
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: think how many coaches, how many people would just get

821
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: fired randomly? Happened a lot with the Yankees. Well Steinbroner

822
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: had more money, and it happened a lot with Al Davis.

823
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: Well all Davis didn't pay his coaches anything, so it

824
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: really didn't happen at this rate for a long time,

825
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: Like Jed York. Could Jed York have a fired in

826
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: in three straight years of awarded to fire Jim Harbaugh

827
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: chip Kelly. He actually didn't know Jim Harbor any money

828
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: because he went to Michigan. But Jim, Tom Seula and

829
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and Trent Balky. He fired three guys in

830
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: a twelve month span. Like the the Niners. Jed York

831
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have billions of dollars like some of these owners. Now,

832
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: he got the money because of the stadium has a

833
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: ton of money, and buying those guys out was easy. Well,

834
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: five years before the stadium happened, he wouldn't have been

835
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: able to do that, you know. So I think this

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Speaker 1: last I'd say decade, a little less than a decade,

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Speaker 1: maybe eight years. The money has changed everything because if

838
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: you think about it like I got, I'll give you

839
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: a much lower level money. Example, I got some extra

840
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: food in my fridge. It's kind of old, you know,

841
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: some chicken, some veggies, some different Let's just put the

842
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: number of fifty dollars, well, fifty dollars. If I'm doing,

843
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, the podcast, doing pretty well. The food. If

844
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't make it tonight, it goes old. And I

845
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: just lose that cash. Well, if I got enough cash,

846
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't even care. Let's throw it away. Get food.

847
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I'll go out and get food. I'll order in because

848
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel like making it. Well, if I'm super

849
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Speaker 1: tight with money, I'm like, well, I'm just gonna make

850
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Speaker 1: the chicken and veggies. Right. And again, it's all money.

851
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Like I always say, money is all relative. And the NFL,

852
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: obviously they have. They've always had a couple of really,

853
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: really rich owners. But now even the poorest owners like

854
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Mark Davis, gets a two fifty million dollar checked from

855
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: the league. So buying out a guy for five six

856
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: million is like a pimple on an elephant's ass. It's

857
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: just it doesn't mean anything. It's nothing. You can barely

858
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: see it. It's a tiny line item for him. What

859
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: week could we possibly see? Daniel Jones start June tenth

860
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: right here, all guests, Week seven. That's that's what it

861
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: feels like for just eli Daniel Jones situation. I'm going

862
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: week seven, logged into my instant for the first time

863
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: in years to slide into the d M for three

864
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: and out like it. What's your take on Sam Ellinger,

865
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Speaker 1: the quarterback of Texas, How does he translate to the NFL.

866
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: Could he be a dark horse Heisman candidate. It's built

867
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Speaker 1: like a grown man. Run likes it, run like it runs.

868
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: I can't even speak runs like it, but can sling

869
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: it too. Was fourth in the nation d ball efficiency. Yeah,

870
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Speaker 1: a couple of times I watched him down the stretch.

871
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: I thought he got a lot better. I remember watching

872
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: him earlier in the season. I was like, I don't

873
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: know if I see it. By the end of the season,

874
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was really good and they clearly had

875
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: some wide receivers for him. I wasn't the biggest Tom

876
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Herman guy, but I gotta tip my hat to him.

877
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: He's a pretty damn good coach and they were really

878
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: good towards the end of the end of the season.

879
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm I haven't like scouted him or watched him like

880
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I could just talk about Jake from or Tua or

881
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: even like Kyler last year, but he was some someone.

882
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: By the end of the season. I thought, this guy's

883
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: got a chance to be a pretty good player. And

884
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: I remember earlier in his career. I wasn't that big

885
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: into him, but you know, like some young guys that

886
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: just take a little bit of time to develop. And

887
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you, he's a good athlete. His deep ball

888
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: accuracy I don't. I mean, if you're telling me, I'll

889
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: believe you. But he's got to pop in his arm

890
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: like he just throws. I remember watching them thinking like,

891
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: this guy's gotta this guy's got an NFL arm uh

892
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: and their team is just good. Now there's gonna be

893
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: some expectations this year for the first time, like can

894
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: this team when the when the conference and you know

895
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: Ken Tom Herman, like, is this the year they make

896
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? And when that's the case, the quarterback

897
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: and the coach get a lot of pressure. So how

898
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: will he handle it? And he clearly can make himself

899
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot of cash getting ready for you know what's

900
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: he gonna be a junior, so I mean technically can

901
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: stay in school another two years. I think because he

902
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: was a sophomore that he was a sophomore last year.

903
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: I could I could be wrong. I'm not trying to

904
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: talk like Samuel Ander like I know it's complete life

905
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: story out the back of my hand, but I know this.

906
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: I watched them multiple times late in the season. I

907
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: definitely watched the ball game and he was good. What

908
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the college transfer pool and how

909
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: brew McCoy treated his situation with Texas in USC. I'm

910
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: a little confused by once you go in the transfer portal,

911
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: like this guy technically went in the transferportal twice right

912
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: because he signed with USC, but then Cliff Kingsbury backed out,

913
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: he went to Texas, and he actually went to Texas

914
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: and then he backed out and he went again. I

915
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: struggled to judge like eighteen and nineteen year old guys

916
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: with deciding to transfer and crushing them. I mean, I

917
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: struggled to make decisions. I'm thirty four years old, so

918
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: to think that at eighteen years old, I would know

919
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: how to make a correct decision. The one thing I

920
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: don't know, and I was asking someone about this, is

921
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: he eligible to play right away at USC? Because to me,

922
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Speaker 1: if he is, that's a little sketchy, Like he after

923
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: he does the transfer once, he shouldn't be eligible to

924
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: transfer again. Like to me, if he has to red shirt,

925
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: he's just following the rules. But if he's able to

926
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Speaker 1: play right away for USC, and I know he had

927
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: he claimed a hardship, wanted to be closer to home, Uh,

928
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: that would get a little sketchy for me. But I

929
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: really don't have that big of an issue because again,

930
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: like put yourself in those shoes eighteen years old, everyone's

931
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: kind of blowing you and tell you how great you are.

932
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you get a little homesick. I mean, I don't

933
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: know about you, but most men I know when they're

934
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: eighteen years old aren't that mature. Like my greatest run

935
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: of maturity was probably from eighteen nineteen. I was an

936
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: idiot so and I just didn't know anything. So I

937
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: can't totally blame this guy for wanting to transfer. I

938
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: really can't appreciate everyone hitting me up. Middlecoff mail bag.

939
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Speaker 1: Another week, another podcast, another Warriors win. I'll see a

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Speaker 1: little later this week. God speed, May the piece be

941
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Speaker 1: with you. Adios, Thanks for listening, see you