1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome in, Welcome back, another edition of the OG podcast. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm in d Kalu and the man sitting across from 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: me needs no introduction a former pro bowler. You know what, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: as a guy who's never been a pro bowler, mister 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Wade Smith, are you former pro bowler or is it 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: just pro bowler? 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: I think it's just you know, that's a good question. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: I think I think it works either way. You can 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: be a former pro bowler, you can be a pro 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: bowler either way. The funny thing is sometimes I've been 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: at like little reading events and I might get introduced 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: by somebody, by a teacher, and they'd be like, hey, 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: so what was it like, you know, bowling? 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Wow? 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: Because they pro bowler. If you were a pro bowler, like, no, 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: that's bad into a pro bowl. But you know, teachers education, 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: they're not necessarily tied into the sports world like that. 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: But more than once, That's why I bring it up. 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: You know what they should do though, what's that wiki? 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: They should just look into then when they they see 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: a six four six five, Now you've lost a whole 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: lot of weight, so you don't look like offensive lineman anymore. 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate it appreciate it. 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: And I don't believe in stereotypes, but yeah, yeah, it 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: ain't no six four six five brothers bowling. 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: That is a fact. I've yet to see a guy 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: that could cross over from being the football guy to 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: the to the bowling guy. I've never seen that. I 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: know there's a lot of football players that can vote 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: very well, but I've never seen guys that decided that's 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: what I want to do. 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: It's funny that and we'll get on topic, and there 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: really is no on topic when it's og podcast is 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: just some old former players who chop it up right here, 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: and you definitely want to stay tuned. But it's funny 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: you bring that up, because what do we see our 37 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: colleagues go into boxing? Y MMA, And like you said, 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: because I'll never forget coach Kobiak, who to this day 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: I think is just one of the best people in 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, no question, he would take us bowling during 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: training camp. Let a break. And there are guys I'm like, man, like, 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: he can bowl for real. I'm surprised, guys don't. We 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen any guys really try to pursue bowling after football. 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see guys going to golf, like you said, boxing, 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, mixed martial arts, different things like that. But 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: you know, bowling, I've never really seen somebody try to 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: do it seriously, and I think guys could honestly think so. 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: I think they could because they said there's some talented guys. 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Bowling is one of those things where it's a repetition 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: that I could kind of speak intelligently about it, because 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: when I grew up from age I think seven or eight, 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: maybe even younger than that, all the way into middle school, 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: that's what I did. I bowled. I didn't play Pop 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Warner football. I didn't do all that stuff I was. 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: I bowled and I had to convince my mom to 56 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: let me play football in the seventh grade and I 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: had to give up bowling. And I probably could have. 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: You know, they give out scholarships for bowling easily. I 59 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: probably could have went to school and got a scholarship 60 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: for bowling because I was really good at its state 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: tournaments all the type stuff. But yeah, man, I could 62 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: definitely see if guys wanted to do that like this, 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: you know, I'm retired, I'm gonna go out and start bowling, 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: and I get serious about the same way they do 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: about golfing on some of these other stuff, I think 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: I think guys could do it. Well, that's you. The 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: difference is is that if you look at my hands, 68 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: you look at it. This is the hand that you 69 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: bowl with the right hand, my fingers. I've tried to 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: bowl post career, during the career and post career, and 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: it ain't the same for a lot of reasons. Back knees, 72 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: but my fingers fitting them in the ball, it's pinky, 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: it's it's awkward as hell. Same thing with shooting the basketball. 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: My my, my disabled fingers preclude me from trying to 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: do something like that. 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: For obviously they can't see your hands, but you think 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: there's a camera right here. 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if this I don't know if this 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: is live or not, but. 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well if you can cool. But it's also 81 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: gonna be on the radio station, so uh, they won't 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: see it. But he definitely has a stereotype of lineman hands. 83 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who's or worse yours or Robert Smiths. 84 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: I haven't seen war bears, but you know, offensive lineman 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: and defensive lineman and sometimes receivers too really have a 86 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: tough time of it. When it comes to the health 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: of their fingers. I'm during in post career. They look 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: they looked terrible. 89 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: I was lucky because after you know, twelve years and 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: I had some broken fingers. I actually had a situation. 91 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: We're playing against the Dallas Cowboys, and you know, I 92 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: went for a tackle, landed awkwardly and my pinky finger 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: was pointing east west instead of north south. And I'll 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: never forget it didn't hurt, but when I saw it, 95 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: I was freaking out and pull it back in. Well, 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: my cornerback so I saw it. I was like, oh 97 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: my god, because I even had a glove on. Yeah, yeah, 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: that's how you know it. And I was like, I 99 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: didn't scream. I don't want to sound like a punk 100 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: on air, but I was kind of like, what the 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: heck is this and LIEDO Shepherd or cornerback said, man, 102 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: quit being a punk, and in the huddle just grabbed 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: my finger and popped it back in. Yeah, and just 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: we just acted like there wasn't anything anything out of 105 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: the ordinary. So that finger is a little jacked up, 106 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: But you and Robert y'all's fingers literally are just going 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: in directions. It's not supposed to go. When I saw 108 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: you today, I usually give you the fist pump because 109 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, he can't shake hands with that hand doesn't hurt. 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: He was trying to protect my hands out. I appreciate 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: like it looks like it hurts. It does hurt, but 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt in the way that you would think. 113 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: It's more of like arthritic hurt. You know, it's not 114 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: like if you touch it, it's going to hurt worse 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: type of. Actually, sometimes when it's like, you know how 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: like when you want to pop a knuckle and when 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: you pop it, the releases it's that thing like it, 118 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: But this is like at all times you feel like 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: you want to pull it in and pop it because 120 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't straighten out all right. 121 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: You talked about things releasing. At some point, we're gonna 122 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: get the Houston Texans schedule for this upcoming season. They're 123 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: making a big deal about it. Regardless of what station 124 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: you listen to sports talk station right here in age down. 125 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: But you need to leave it right here at all times. 126 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: People are just getting hype about it. As a player, 127 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: what were you like, what was your process? What was 128 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: your routine when you were a current when you were 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: a player and the schedule came out. 130 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing you you looking for the primetime games. 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: You're looking for how many times you're gonna be on 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: national TV to where everybody that that you know can 133 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: see you play. So that's the Monday night games, it's 134 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: a Thursday night games. That's maybe you're on a Thanksgiving game. 135 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: You're looking for those things. First, you're looking for the 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: bye week. Second, and and the bye week you you 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: hope that it's somewhere in the middle. You hope it's 138 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: not somewhere either early in the season or really late 139 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: in the season, just just because of you know, it's 140 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: a marathon, not a sprint where you're talking about an 141 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: NFL season. And if you can get that bye week 142 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: some somewhere in the middle of the season, now you 143 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: can kind of break the season up into quarters into 144 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: halves and and and kind of pace yourself quote unquote 145 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: to to to make it through and and perform at 146 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: your highest level for the entire season. But those are 147 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: the first two things that come to my head. It's like, 148 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: all right, what games are we playing on prompts? I mean, 149 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: then like who are we playing? That might be somebody 150 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: that is a rival. Is it an opportunity for a 151 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: get back game? Is there maybe? You know, for example, 152 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: we lost to the Ravens in the twenty eleven playoffs 153 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: road game, felt like we played better than them when 154 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: the season, when the schedule was coming out in twenty twelve, 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: and you knew that was one of the ponies. You 156 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: wanted to find out when and where you're going to 157 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: play them, and unfortunately for us that next year twenty twelve, 158 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: we blew them out at home and that was a fun, fun, little, 159 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, get back game. But you look for opportunities 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: like that too, and especially if you've moved around to 161 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: different teams, you look for when is the team that 162 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: I used to play for? When are they on the schedule? 163 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, and this is why it's cool 164 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: to have. You know, a lot of times people think 165 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: all former players think alike and we're in agreement on everything. 166 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: There are some things that you were saying and I 167 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that's the difference of a guy who 168 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: playing the multiple Pro Bowls versus a guy like me 169 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: who's a role player. Because when I saw the schedule, 170 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: especially early in my career, when I was single. I 171 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: looked at the schedule like, oh, okay, I get the 172 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: highlight to Meika were playing Atlanta, We're going to at L. 173 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: So I'm letting a Mika know that we're coming to 174 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: at L. 175 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 176 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Okay, when am I going to get to play against 177 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: my boy Larry? Because that rights there was only three 178 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of us in the Yeah. So we're playing Miami. So 179 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: you're over here looking at Oh, we're gonna get back 180 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: at this team and you know this is a prime 181 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: time Yeah. 182 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: So hey, man, I got I got married my rookie 183 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: year on a Tuesday, bro. So it was it was. 184 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: It was none of that like oh this chick in 185 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: that city and all that type stuff that that wasn't 186 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: that that was a single and that that makes sense 187 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: for the single guys, But me, I was. I was 188 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: locked down early on. 189 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: Good for you. You you were focused early on. Like I said, 190 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: that's the difference between the pro bowlers and US guys 191 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: who were just surviving. But no, all jokes aside, once 192 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: you do look at the primetime games. The one thing 193 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: I never and again I don't want people to think 194 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: that all players think Ali because I'm curious to get 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: your take on this I never looked at the schedule 196 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: as easy win, easy win. Now I looked at the 197 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: schedule and right wrong or indifferent, especially when I was 198 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: playing in Philadelphia. You go into it thinking we're going 199 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: sixteen to know, because I never looked at it like, oh, 200 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: this team's gonna beat us. That team you know, we're 201 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: not gonna beat it, or we can beat this one. 202 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: But to this day, when I hear, oh, this team 203 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: has an easy schedule, it's hard for me to nod 204 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: my head and agree with that. I want to get 205 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: your take, and I get it the win loss from 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: the previous year, but it's hard for me to say 207 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: that any NFL team has an easy schedule. I'm curious 208 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: to what your take. 209 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: I think if you have any type of seasoning, any 210 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: type of wherewithal, you understand that if you approach it 211 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: as is, if this is an easy win, that's that's 212 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: when you're gonna lose that. And if you in the 213 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: league for any period of time, if you pay attention 214 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: to it, off you kind of read the tea leaves 215 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: and catch the vibes when you're in the locker room. 216 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: What you're getting from coaches and your teammates it's like, hey, listen, 217 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: you cannot take anybody for granted because you will get beat. 218 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: Anybody can beat anybody in this league any given Sunday. 219 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: That is a real mentality. At the same time, you 220 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: can look at the schedule and say we we should 221 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: beat this team, we should beat that team, We're gonna 222 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: beat that team, or you know, you can look at 223 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: it and say, hey, we do what we need to do. 224 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: You know, some some people might not be playing in 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter against this team, some things like that. 226 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: But there's also you look at the schedule and you say, 227 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: there's certain teams where we say, all right, we're gonna 228 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: have to have my mind right of use this. This 229 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: is a big game right here. We're gonna have to 230 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: play our best game or we have to play our 231 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: a game to beat a team like that, stuff like that. 232 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: But it's never a thought process of like that's gonna 233 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: be an easy win because if you have that thought process, 234 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: if you have that mentality, you will get beat. 235 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: Okay, But what about you and your one per correct there, 236 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: Like I think every player will agree on that, But 237 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: what about as an analyst, as a guy that watches, analyzes, 238 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: and talks about the games on air. Do you now 239 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: look at schedules and say, that's an easy schedule. So 240 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: I'll look at it like this. I look I break 241 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: up up in two quarters and say, and it used 242 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: to be quarters. Now seventeen games, but it used to 243 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: be break them up in the quarters, and say, looking 244 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: at these four teams, they better win three out of four. 245 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: These next four they got to split. These two. You know, 246 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: these next four they they should go on and run 247 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: here because they got But you also think of it 248 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: of like as if you're analyzing it, you're looking at 249 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: it's okay when you played what were some of the 250 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: things that were the pitfalls that happened? Like you noticed, 251 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: like you you know, the vibe was kind of off 252 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: this week because of this reason, because of you know, 253 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: the team that you was playing against might have been 254 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: a lesser opponent. Maybe guys weren't taking it as seriously 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: as they should have, or you know, this is coming 256 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 2: off of a bye week, and so hey, maybe it's 257 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: an opponent that we otherwise might struggle with because we're 258 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: coming off of bye week. I think, you know, we 259 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: might be able to to do something with them because 260 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: they're coming off of a tough game and we're fresh. 261 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: And so if you look at it with that mentality 262 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: as an analyst of like, okay, these are these are 263 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: some of the things that you experienced as a player. 264 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: Now you can kind of factor that in of what 265 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: you're going to see when you're when you're looking at 266 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: the schedule and you say, Okay, yeah, I believe they'll 267 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: win three out of four here, or they can they 268 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: could go on a run here. This is gonna be 269 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: a tough four week pat tricky. You know if you 270 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: if you split this, you did a good job. You know, 271 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: there's there's certain you can look at it that way 272 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: because you don't have a visceral vested interest in it. Because, 273 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: like you said, as a player, whoever you line up against, 274 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: you expect to be them. I don't care who you are, 275 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: Like you put the ball down, let's go. That's the mentality. 276 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: And so it's it's like you have to be delusional 277 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: to play the game at a high level. You have 278 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: to you have to be able to buy in and 279 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: believe that whatever they they on paper, they might be 280 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: better on paper. But we have a game plan this 281 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: week that this is how we're going to beat them 282 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: this week, and every week. You have to be able 283 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: to be convinced. And sometimes when you look at it 284 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: from the outside, look and he said, you got to 285 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: be delusion if you thought that child was going to 286 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: win that game. But that is the fact of the matter. 287 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: That's how you happens. Because you don't accidentally beat anybody. 288 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: You gotta believe that you're going to do it, and 289 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: then now you got to go out and execute and 290 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: make it happen. 291 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: I've told this story before, but when you said you 292 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: have to be delusional to play this game and to 293 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,239 Speaker 1: make it to the NFL, you have to be delusional. 294 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: I think back when I was at Rice and we're 295 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: opening up against Ohio State. That was our first game. 296 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: So the whole summer, after every sprint, we break down 297 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: beat Ohio State. It got to the point where you 298 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: cannot Wade Smith could not come back then and convince 299 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: me that we weren't going to beat o'yell State. And now, 300 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: like I laugh when I think about it, I tell 301 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: a story. Just take a guess at what the score was. 302 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Where was the game at at Ohio State. I'm gonna 303 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: say forty nine to fourteen. I wish it was it 304 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: wasn't that close seventy to seven, and I was actually 305 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I had the nerve, the galth, the audacity to be 306 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: shocked during the game, like what is going on here? 307 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: And now when I look back and I see that 308 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Orlando Pace was on that line, Corey Stringer made soul 309 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: rest in peace was on that line. Wow, Eddie George 310 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: was a third string running back on that line. I'm 311 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: excuse me on that team. I was just but at 312 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: the time, you could not convince me that we weren't 313 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna be So you're right, you have to be delusional 314 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: to play this game to get to that point. You 315 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: also discussed a little bit about the bye week before 316 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: we start talking about the home and away games. How 317 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: do you like handling bye weeks? There's so many different ways. 318 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've had some coaches where they give you 319 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: seven days off, and then you have other coaches where 320 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: you're a little upset because two days off, Like, how 321 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: do you like approaching the bye week? 322 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: So I personally like it to where you give and 323 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: you know, it depends on what stage of your career. 324 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: In early on in your career, I felt like I 325 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: liked the the getting the reps and getting the work 326 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: in and staying you know, staying locked in and not 327 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: getting that rest on the body. As you get older, 328 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: you want that rest. But there's also there's a combination 329 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: of factors that you bring in. It's like, Okay, what 330 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: type of team do we have here? Do we have 331 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: a veteran team that that goes about their business, doesn't 332 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: need to be micromanaged? Are pros pros? Like my time 333 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: here in Houston, like we didn't we didn't put a 334 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: lot of emphasis on the bye week of beating each 335 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: other up right, but we had a team that was 336 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: set up to where you didn't need that. That wasn't 337 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: that we didn't and so it made sense. I was 338 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: on other teams, like when I was in with the 339 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: Jets the bye week at times like I felt like 340 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: we needed it and at the same time, we weren't 341 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: going to get that, uh, that leeway because of the 342 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: philosophy of the head coaches. We're going to grind you. 343 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: We're going to grind you, grind you, grind you, and 344 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: that's how we're going to beat our opponents because we're 345 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: going to overcome that grind and that's how we're going 346 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: to be able to be successful on Sundays, and so 347 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: I didn't really even though I was younger then, I 348 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: didn't particularly like it because I felt like we were 349 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: being micromanaged, even though even though when you look back 350 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: on it, you kind of I felt like in some 351 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: respects we needed that. But he just didn't really like 352 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: it because it was like, what are we trying to 353 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: prove right here? I'm very much a person of like, Okay, 354 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how to beat this opponent. 355 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: This is our opponent. We beat each other up and 356 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: training camp, you know, for that month and a half 357 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: prior to the season. Once we're in season, now, our 358 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: teammates are our teammates. So I'm not trying to beat 359 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: up with my brother and I'm trying to whoop them, 360 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: and so iron sharpens iron. You do things to get 361 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: yourself prepared to beat somebody else. But I'm not trying 362 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: to because I guess my mentality was when I was playing, 363 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: it was like they were the enemy, like once the game, 364 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: once the once the whistle blue. There's nothing about you 365 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: that I like. There's times, you know throughout that you 366 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: can kind of acknowledge, you can kind of acknowledge and 367 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: respect your opponent that thing like that, But it's it's 368 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: almost like you have to breathe like a almost a 369 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: hatred towards your opponent in order for you to perform 370 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: at the highest of levels and be willing to do 371 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: what's necessary to be successful more times than not. And 372 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: so yeah, that that I didn't really like to have 373 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: to take it there during a bye week, but there 374 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: were times throughout my career where that was the case 375 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: and it was like if you didn't take it there, 376 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: then you were gonna get beat. So I didn't like 377 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: having to go to that place with my brothers, you 378 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: know what I mean, That mentality of having to go 379 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: to that place. I didn't like having to go to 380 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: that place with my brothers. In training camp, we're all 381 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: trying to earn jobs and all that type of stuff. 382 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's different. But once the season starts, a 383 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: we in it and so it's us against everybody else, 384 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: and so yeah, that's kind of how I looked at 385 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: the bye week. I definitely enjoyed my time more when 386 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: I was here in Houston because Gary Kubiak, he was 387 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: a guy that he trusted guys and expect the guys 388 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: to do their job and not having to be micromanaged 389 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: to do it. And if guys didn't do their job, 390 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 2: they weren't around. And everybody understood that. And so you know, 391 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: it's a respect for like we're all grown in here. 392 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: You don't have to kind of look over my shoulder 393 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: to make sure I'm doing my work. Everything about me, 394 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: my character is a human being, and as a competitor 395 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: is I'm gonna do what I need to do and 396 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: then some because we want to be great, you see 397 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And so I was in certain places 398 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: where that wouldn't necessarily the case. 399 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: Now, were you on the twelve and four team here 400 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: in Houston? 401 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, So eleven, well, I guess we were 402 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: twelve and four and twelve we were twelve and four, 403 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: and then in eleven we were I think we were 404 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: ten and six, and then we want a playoff game 405 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: and lost the playoff year, so I guess we ended 406 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: up being eleven and seven that ye. Yeah, So the 407 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: first year, the first year I was here, we were 408 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: six and ten. But that was the year that like 409 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: Arion led the league in rushing. Our offense was amazing. 410 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: I think we might have had like the if we 411 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: weren't first or second. We were top for sure, top 412 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: five offense in the league. That was the year where 413 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: like week one we ran for two thirty something with 414 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: airing and then the next week shot through for five 415 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: to twenty seven. That the type offense was historically bad. 416 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: It was really bad. It was, and we lost a 417 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: bunch of games, like last second games, like fluke games. 418 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: We lost five games I think by like on the 419 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: last play of the game, on the last possession, because 420 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: we couldn't stop anybody like that was That was a 421 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: rough year from Nereguard, But we knew we were good. 422 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: Like offensively we were a terror, like we we ran 423 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: through a lot of people. That was the year. We 424 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: started off four and two. Domico gets hurt against Kansas 425 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: City and then after that our defense just shot the hell. 426 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: We just weren't the same team anymore because Miko I 427 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: think he achilles or something. Yeah, he was out for 428 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: the rest of that year. And so defensively, like if 429 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: you look at that first six games of that year, 430 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: our defense was was good enough for us to be 431 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: a playoff team. After you got hurt, we weren't anymore 432 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: and we got it was bad and so we were 433 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: you coming to the team meeting room and Coops is like, 434 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: hey man, y'all understand talking to the offense and not 435 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: the team meeter on the offensive meter, right, you understand 436 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: what we got going on here, We're gonna need to 437 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: be even better. And mind you, at the time, we're 438 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: you know, got the leading rusher in the league. You 439 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: got you got Dre, you got od, you got shopped, 440 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: like I say, throwing for thousands of thousand yards. But 441 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: it was just, hey, we were struggling on the other 442 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: side of the ball. So, like I said, that team 443 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: was a veteran team, was a team that had been 444 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: in the system for a long time, and so you 445 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: didn't need to beat each other up per se on 446 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: a bye week. It was like, let's let's get ourselves 447 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: physically and mentally refresh so that we can go forward 448 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: for the rest of this year. 449 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: Were there whispers on their offensive side like hey man, 450 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: they need to pick it up on the defense or 451 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: did everybody just know it so you didn't really have to. 452 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Say, yeah, it was almost to the to the how 453 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: do I want to put this? It starts off as 454 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: anger of like come on, y'all do your job to 455 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: like almost I don't want to say pity, but it 456 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: was just like, hey, if if it's your little brother 457 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: or somebody like that and they just ain't got it, 458 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: you're just like, you're gonna take it. When I got 459 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: your back, I'm gonna look out for you type of deal, 460 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: because you you just didn't have expectations for them to 461 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: to to do that well and you and you could 462 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: kind of feel it in training camp. It's like, offensively, 463 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: we're doing like this seems is like a little easy. 464 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: But it's like, Okay, maybe it's not that it's easy 465 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: because they're not good. It's because we're just really damn 466 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: good as an offense. That's what it felt like that 467 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: in training camp that year. And then you move forward 468 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: as the season goes on, and like I said, the 469 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: first six games to start off four and two, defense 470 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: was doing good enough to win games. But like I said, 471 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: once the Miko got hurt, defensively weren't the same. You know, 472 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: we started losing too many guys and so we just 473 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: wasn't just we couldn't compete at that level on the offense. 474 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: I mean on the defense side of the ball, the 475 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: offensive side. Because now it's coming back to me obviously 476 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 2: I was retired at that point and just watching the 477 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: offense was special, Like the offense was special. Do you 478 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: see any similarities in what the Texans have today with that, 479 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: with that offense, that three year run on the offensive 480 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: side of the ball, Listen on paper, skill wise, skill 481 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: position wise, this is the best collection of players that 482 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: this organization is put together since period. No, I disagree, period. 483 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: And on that side of y'all, has I said skill 484 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: position wise? I said skill position skill position wise, offensive line. No, 485 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: they ain't there yet. 486 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Bro Andre look andre Od, Jakobe Jones, Kevin Walter, Arian Foster, 487 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: Ben Tate as a backup. And I know I said, 488 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, those are your backups. Listen. I 489 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm ready to say that yet. CJ. 490 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: Stroud Yes, first and foremost J. Stroud, hands down, it's 491 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: just one of the top what three or four quarterbacks 492 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: in the league. The accuracy that mind you, they're running 493 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: the same offense now that we ran then, the same stuff, 494 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: same stuff. I'm watching games calling the plays out. You 495 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: already know what it is. So you add Stefan Diggs 496 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: to what you already had with Collins and Tank. Mind you, 497 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: there was there's no Dre is Dre. But the matchup 498 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: problems that Tank Dell causes for teams, the run after 499 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: catch that that that Nico has against guys. Then you 500 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: add Stefan Diggs, then you add Joe Mixon, then you 501 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: already had Shultz at tight end position like skill position wise, 502 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: because I think and it's no nothing, nothing against my my, 503 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: my brothers, but the drop off between Dre and the 504 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: next receiver, it's it's a big drop off. So now 505 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: teams can like scheme Dre. There's you can't scheme our offense. 506 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: Now you can't scheme it all. You want to double 507 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: this guy, you're gonna get torched by that guy. You 508 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: want to try to roll your just when you get 509 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: torsed by this guy. Mind you, you have a quarterback 510 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: that is one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league, 511 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: and he plays with a swagger that you know most 512 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: guys don't have, especially the young age. So for those reasons, 513 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: like I said, skilled position wise, I think that this 514 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: group is the best collection of guys that they put together. 515 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: I will say this, I actually forgot about the when 516 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: when I was making my argument, I was thinking I 517 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking of the additions that we Yeah, yeah, yeah, 518 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: because in my mind I was like, oh crap, I 519 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: forgot about him. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, because Mixing don't. 520 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't say Mixing is like Arian, but he's not 521 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: far behind Aaron and so I'm not gonna take Digs 522 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: over Dre. But you got the collection of Diggs Collins Delle. 523 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's a problem. Then they just signed 524 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: this kid that's coming from the Rams. I can't pronounce 525 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: his last name. The receiver from the Rams sk something. 526 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: I can't pronounce it, right. I learned it eventually. 527 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: But they they line that and they run the same 528 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: offense out there too with the Rams. When we getting 529 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: eleven personnel, excuse me, when they getting twenty one personnel, 530 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: it's not twenty one because they have that guy that's 531 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: a receiver playing fullback, spot lead blocking. So imagine that 532 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: you're running for. 533 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: Those listening twenty one personnel, two running backs, one tight end, right, 534 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: So you're saying he's gonna line up at fullback. 535 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he was doing out there with the Rams, 536 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: lining up at full back and then running play action 537 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 2: off of that. So instead of you having a running 538 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: up because, mind you, I've watched the table. I watched 539 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: him lead block and do a good job at it. Right, 540 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: he's like six, I don't know, six three two fifteen 541 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: something like that. One of those guys is that are 542 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: typical receivers that blocking this offense and this particular offense. 543 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 2: You have to be able to block. You gotta be physically. 544 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: You gotta go get people right. So you got that guy, 545 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: you put them at fullback and you let you fake 546 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: a a lead draw, you know, you fake nineteen week 547 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: and then you're run. 548 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: You're running. 549 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: You know all kinds of routes with these receivers, mind you, 550 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: all those receivers that I named earlier, they're out there 551 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: in routes. And you got a linebacker matched up with 552 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: the receiver that is a legit receiver from the fullback spot. 553 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: Good luck stopping that. So yeah, like I said, I 554 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: think skill position wise, it's the best collection of talent 555 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: that this this is organization is put together. They got 556 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: to go out there and do it. But like I said, 557 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: on paper, you know, person for person and then thinking 558 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: about the possibilities, it's scary. It's scary. So I'm excited 559 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: about this year. I'm excited about this this schedule. I'll 560 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: have another hot take right here, like, and I'm not 561 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: a hot take guy, but this is the best schedule 562 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: on paper that I've seen in the history of the 563 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: franchise where you're saying we're good and they're good, and 564 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: these games are going to be on likely gonna be 565 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: on Prime Time. You got you got the Cowboy game, 566 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: like a imagine the Cowboy Game being on Thanksgiving. Imagine that. Yeah, 567 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: imagine if they if the league gets that part right, 568 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: or you know, you got think about the home games. 569 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 2: You got the Ravens at home, you got the Bills 570 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: at home, you got the Dolphins at home, you got 571 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: the Lions at home. All four of those teams offenses 572 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: are amazing offenses, right, but you got an amazing offense. 573 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: That's fireworks, that's that's that's big plays, that's explosive plays 574 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: like must see TV. Like from a fan perspective, those 575 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: are all home games. I don't even get it to 576 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: the to the division games. Those are all home games. 577 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: And I didn't mention the Bears game. The Bears offense 578 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: is gonna be nice next year to if quickly they'll 579 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: put it together. But they got Keenan Allen from the 580 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: Chargers is there now. They got DJ Moore that's there now. 581 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: And then they got Kyler Williams. And then they got 582 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: another receiver. I can't think of his name right now. 583 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: They drafted the kid from Washington. 584 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Rome, the Nigerian half Nigerian. 585 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah that so they got that stericy. So 586 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: if you're a fan, you gotta be like, man, listen, 587 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a high ticket. It ain't. People are 588 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: going to be you know, they like, that's strong. That 589 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: is amazingly through. 590 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: That home just we don't know the dates yet and yeah, 591 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: but just go through that home schedule. 592 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: You got you got the Ravens at home. So that's 593 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. They've never been Lamar Jackson. They've got Lamar 594 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: Jackson and Derek Hearny. Yeah I forgot about Yeah yeah, 595 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: strap up, strap up. It's gonna be one of the one. 596 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Then you got Buffalo Bills, so you got Josh Allen. 597 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna be Allen going against a receiver who yeah, 598 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: supposedly wasn't happy. There's going to try to prove something. 599 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah strong, Okay. Then you got the Dolphins. So you 600 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: got Tyreek Hill, I think the most explosive player in 601 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: the game. 602 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: Jayleen Walla comes home Episcopal kid Like, think about that, 603 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of story. As if you're Detroit Lions, 604 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: you got Jared Goff. 605 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: The huge extension, four years, twelve million. 606 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: What's the receiver out there if you didn't monro Yes, yes, 607 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: like that that that dude is nice. Their offense is nice. 608 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Both of their running backs Montgomery and Gibbs. Those are 609 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: all of these offenses on the coaches Aaron gn On 610 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: coaching staff, Like, there's a lot of there's a lot 611 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 2: of juice there, as it said. And then you got 612 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: your division games. Of course, you got the Coats, the Jags, 613 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: and the Titans, and we don't like them. So those 614 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: like there's not a home game where you say, like 615 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: I can skip that game. Nah, Like if you got 616 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: a ticket, you're going to the game. Yes, all of 617 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: these games are mussy TV. So you look at that, 618 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: and then you talk about the road opponents. You got 619 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: the Cowboys in Dallas. You should have said that last. 620 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: That's that's huge. That's a huge game. 621 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: That's huge. 622 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: You're getting to go to lambeau Field again, got the 623 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Packers on the road, you got the Vikings, got a 624 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: new quarterback. I guess J. J. McCarthy's going to start, 625 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: I would think. But you got the Vikings on, you 626 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: got the Chiefs on the road. That's always a big deal, 627 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: super Bowl champions with three out of the last five 628 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: years or whatever it is. Then you got the Jets 629 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: on the road, and then you and that, then and 630 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: you got the Patriots on the road. There's not there's 631 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: not a game on the schedule. When I look at 632 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: the schedule, I say, juice wise, the least interesting games 633 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: are division games. There's not a slouch non division game 634 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: on maybe the schedule. 635 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: The Jets, because aren't they quote unquote rebuilding. I'm not 636 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: talking about it. I'm not talking about as far as 637 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: the ability of the teams. It's more of like the 638 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: juice of what their offense should be good. If Aaron 639 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers is healthy, their offense should be good. They got 640 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: they got a damn good running back in a tall 641 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: they got good receivers. The kid that's from Ohio State, 642 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: I can't think of his name right now, Garrett Wilson, 643 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: I think it's his name. They're like, all these games 644 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: should be exciting to watch. You're gonna you're gonna have 645 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: to see, like the Texans defense are gonna have their 646 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: work cut out for them this year. They got a 647 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: lot of goons on the rosters that they got to 648 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: go again. So I'm excited for it. When the schedule 649 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: come out, you know, we got in the next twenty 650 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: four hours or so. When it comes out, it's going 651 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: to be exciting to see. And then you gotta think 652 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: about it. This is a year with all the excitement 653 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: behind the schedule. Excuse me out the schedule lease, but. 654 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: The new uniforms, the rebrand of the organization, thinking about 655 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: like when are they going to wear the H time 656 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: blue jerseys? Like what night game? It's got to be 657 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: a night game, no question about it, primetime game. 658 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: So you don't care about the opponents more than timing. 659 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: I think the opponent. I think the opponent can play 660 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: into it. But let's say let's say that they play 661 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: the Titans and neither one of those games a prime 662 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: time game. I'm not I'm not gonna use that jersey 663 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: against them just because it's them. I'm gonna it's got 664 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: you gotta play that game at night. The age time 665 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: blew at night, drop the lights that the whole world 666 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 2: to see. Put the put the H on the at 667 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: midfield bro like that, like that, then you got the 668 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: all red jerseys like those games. Those those gotta be nighttime, 669 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: prime time games. And I think the Texans gonna have 670 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: multiple opportunities to do that. You're gonna have I'm gonna 671 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my bid on the table. I'm gonna say, 672 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: at least for prime time games, at least for least 673 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: at least for and I'm counting Thanksgiving game if they 674 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: have that, that to me, I count that as a 675 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: prime time game, even though it's at eleven o'clock in 676 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: the morning. 677 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Now, you said, if the NFL gets it right and 678 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: puts the Texans taking on the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, I 679 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: want to see that. You want to see that. You 680 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: and I both grew up in Texas, no question, but 681 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: you're also got an entrepreneurial mindset. Is that what America 682 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: wants to see? You know, Roger Goodell has to make 683 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: decisions on globally. C J. 684 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: Stroud versus Dak Prescott. They want to see that. Okay, 685 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: I think it makes it makes a lot of sense. 686 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: Remember that's the I can't think of another better that's 687 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 2: not eleven o'clock. The Cowboys always plays at three o'clock. 688 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: That's a three o'clock game. Detroit plays at eleven and 689 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: then the Cowboys plays at three o'clock. At three o'clock 690 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: on a Thursday, Thanksgiving Texans versus the Cowboys. To me, 691 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: that'll be a great look. You can't you can't lose there, 692 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: and I and I haven't looked at the Cowboys schedule 693 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: to see, like who else with to put The Cowboys 694 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: don't always play great opponents on Thanksgiving. I think their 695 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: biggest thing is like, it's the Cowboys, so it is. 696 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily matter who you match it with the Cowboys. 697 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: It's the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Everybody's gonna watch that anyway. 698 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: But when you talk about the competitiveness, competitiveness of the 699 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: game Thanksgiving Texas Football and every thing that it means, 700 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: it just makes a lot of sense to me that 701 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: that's that's where you put that game. 702 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: As a player, would you rather play on Thanksgiving or 703 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: rather not? 704 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: Uh? You know what, every time we played on Thanksgiving. 705 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: I think I'm undefeated on Thanksgiving, So I definitely would 706 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: want to play on Thanksgiving. I mean I got my 707 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: not my first game, boy, but my second game ball 708 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: was against the Cowboys my rookie year for the Dolphins. 709 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: Blew them out. My grandma got mad at me and 710 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: she didn't she didn't make me a play for Thanksgiving 711 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: that year. Huge, huge, the biggest, like to this day, 712 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: she's ninety years old. Now, yeah, she was upset me 713 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: for a few days, like y'all didn't have to come 714 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: beat my team, Like we beat him like forty to 715 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: twenty one, and the twenty one was like a late touchdown. 716 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: So but then we played Detroit on Thanksgiving in twenty twelve. 717 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: That was probably the most the second most painful game 718 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: that I played for played in my career because we 719 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: played the Jaguars the week before that or that's the 720 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: Sunday BEFO for that overtime game. We want it, but 721 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: I broke my ribs that game. So then this is 722 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: three and a half days later, at eleven o'clock in 723 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: the morning, you're playing against Detroit. Put the flag jacket on. 724 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: That was a painful game. We want it, but it 725 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 2: wasn't fun. But I would I would definitely say I 726 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 2: would rather play if I had an opportunity to play 727 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. Let's play on Thanksgiving because you know everybody's watching. 728 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna get those extra days off around Thanksgiving that 729 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: other guys aren't gonna get. I enjoyed my Thanksgiving experiences 730 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: when I played in the league. 731 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: You talked about Arion Foster, and I remember he was 732 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: very vocal against Thursday night games. Yeah, I personally enjoyed them. 733 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: And that's why I like to say, you know, just 734 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: because we're all players, it doesn't mean we think the same. 735 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: The reason I enjoyed it, I was lucky enough to 736 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: have coaches if you had a Thursday game, you just 737 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: don't practice that week. But I get his argument, especially 738 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: being a running back, which is the most violent position 739 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: on the football field, and saying that that's not enough 740 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: time to recover. What was your take on Thursday? 741 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: That was the biggest thing, just having enough time to recover. 742 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: Because the way the NFL week works is like you 743 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: play on Sunday, Monday, you're not You're you're coming down 744 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: from your tourd all high. So you're starting to get 745 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: the sword and this Tuesday, there's the most painful day 746 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: of the week. Wednesday, you're starting to work through the soword. 747 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: This Thursday, you're starting to feel like a human being again. Friday, 748 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: you're feeling fast and ready to go. By the time 749 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: you get to Sunday, Hey, let's go. I'm ready to 750 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: do this again. And then you repeat the process. Well, 751 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: if you're playing on Thursday, even though you're not doing 752 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 2: anything on that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, your body is still 753 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: You're just now starting to feel like a human being 754 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: again on Thursday, and guess what, I gotta go out 755 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: there and whoop. Indeed for four hours like that, ain't 756 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: that Ain't an easy task at all. And so I've 757 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: never been a fan of the Thursday night game. It's 758 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: just something that you have to do. It's part of 759 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: to do. But yeah, your body just does not feel 760 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: And since we've played, they've come up with all different 761 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: things to try to help with that and help with 762 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: the recovery. But you just never felt like it took 763 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: you almost a quarter to start feeling like you're supposed 764 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: to feel in the middle of the game. 765 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: See here's where I disagree, because I was lucky enough 766 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 1: to play in some Thursday night games as well. And again, 767 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: let's think about the regular week you know, Sunday to 768 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: Sunday just like everything you said Monday, and again, depend 769 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: on what type of season you're having and who your 770 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: coach is. Some coaches make you do that run, the 771 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: lift to get the sword is out, the tourd doll 772 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: still there. Tuesday you feel it for those listening. Tuesdays 773 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: typically the off day for the National Football League players. 774 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: Wednesday you have a hard practice. Wednesday and Thursday were 775 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: usually the grinded out practices, and then Friday you have 776 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: a basically a walk through, a jog through. Saturday you travel, 777 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: Sunday you play. So the reason I enjoyed Thursday games 778 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: again because I had smart coaches. We didn't. We literally 779 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: never put the pads on except for the helmets. Maybe 780 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: a walkthrough on on Tuesday and that's it. So yeah, 781 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: because I know practice is needed. Yeah, but I to me, 782 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: practice was always a grind. I just love to play. 783 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: So if you tell me I get to play in 784 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: a game on Sunday and then I don't have to 785 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: do anything and play a game on Thursday, I signed. 786 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: I'll sign up for that every day of the week. 787 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: I feel like you're speaking very much so from a 788 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: defensive lineman's perspective, because defensive lineman, you guys rotate in 789 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: and out. You mentioned Arian to start this conversation, like 790 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: Arian got beat up? Like Arian, you know that is 791 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: very physically taxing. I remember after every game, like you 792 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: have a great game. You got twenty six carries for 793 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two yards and two touchdowns, and 794 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: you're not smiling in the locker rooms. It's like you 795 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: know that, Okay, we're done. I can you know it's 796 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 2: it's it's a Ryan and it's an offensive lineman. Hey, 797 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: it's like you're you're excited. You got to win. But 798 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: it was a grind. We just went to war. We 799 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 2: just we had a full out battle for seventy plays. 800 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: If you had a good day at the office, you 801 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 2: might be playing eighty plays. Whereas you know, for you guys, 802 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: if you have a good day at the office, you 803 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: might have played forty plays and you might have only 804 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 2: had to play you know, twenty nine out of those 805 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: forty plays or fifty, Like say, I like, you might 806 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: have played a total forty plays if it was a 807 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 2: good day, right, you know what I mean? And so yeah, 808 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: I think that kind of plays into your thought process 809 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: of a Thursday night versus offensive. 810 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, just tap my helmet if somebody comes in, right, 811 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: come get me offensive lineman. Don't rotate. 812 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: No, it's it's frowned upon. That's like one of those 813 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: unwritten rules that we don't come out the game. 814 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I can see and again, different position, you know, 815 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: you have different thoughts on it. So I didn't want 816 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: to get your take on that. All right, So we obviously, uh, 817 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame game, there's going to be 818 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: a longer training camp. Now I'm older than you. You 819 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've retired in a You retired. 820 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 2: When my last season was the fourteen season, so you 821 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: can and. 822 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: When was your first season? Three? That's right, so you 823 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: you've actually you can speak on this a little better 824 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: than I can, because in O three they were still 825 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: having what I. 826 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: Call real training camp, and the pad, yes, half pad, 827 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: pad pad, half pads. You had to wait till the 828 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: end of the week to get like a shell, the shells, 829 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: the shamos whatever you call them, the soft scale. 830 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the skeletons some people called shell shoulder pads on 831 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: and shorts on. But then they also call those little 832 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: foam deals shell. 833 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, you didn't put the you only put the 834 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 2: phones on once a week in training camp. That's what 835 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: I remember. Yeah, Like when I was with the Dolphins 836 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: my rookie year, it was full pads, full pads, full pads, 837 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: and then it was woll pads, half packs, and then 838 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: then repeat the cycle until you got to the last 839 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: day of the week and then you gotta maybe a 840 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: I guess the shells or soft whatever, uh, special teams 841 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: practice or something like that. It was a real, real 842 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: training camp. And even before then they were doing three 843 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: days back and. 844 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: Before and then it was my ara ninety seven was 845 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: my rookie year. And in Philly coach Andy Reid the 846 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: best coach you know in football right now, and I'll 847 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: keep saying that, but he I truly believe his goal 848 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: for the start of training camp was to try to 849 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: weed somebody out. You might be thinking the NFL, no 850 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: one's gonna quit. Every year. I was six years with 851 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: Andy Reid. Every year when we had training camp, at 852 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: least one person quit. Yeah, and this is in college, 853 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: this isn't high school. And there were times where it 854 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: was like that guy was gonna make the team. He's 855 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: walking away from you know, a six digit salary because 856 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: training camp was so tough, and I don't I don't know. 857 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to over I don't want to exaggerate, 858 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: but I don't think there was any regulation like they 859 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: have now on how long. 860 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 2: You can be on. Yeah, it didn't feel like. It 861 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: didn't feel like for sure, it didn't like you Like 862 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 2: I said today, there's no such thing as a real 863 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: to a day. It's like, you can practice full pads 864 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: in the morning, but in the afternoon it's a walk through. 865 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: It's like a legit walkthrough, whereas it was full pads 866 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: in the morning, full pads in the afternoon or evening. 867 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: Then the next day you did a full pad of 868 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: practice and then you might have a walkthrough, but the 869 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: walkthrough might be it would be like a special team's 870 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: walk through that was like and then you repeat the process. 871 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: But you know, let's say, if you have forty practice 872 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 2: opportunities in training camp, you're gonna be in full pads 873 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: probably thirty thirty three of those opportunities. Like I mean, 874 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: it was, it was. It was just different. It's just 875 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 2: a different game than what it is now. It's smart 876 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: for your physical it's smart, but at the same time, 877 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: I wonder how that is translating to the types and 878 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 2: the amount of injuries that have come up as far 879 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: as like, yeah, like soft tissue stuff. I feel like 880 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't I feel And maybe that's a combination of 881 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: guys that are being so much like that are getting 882 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: bigger and faster, and it's like the body can only 883 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 2: do and move a certain amount of speed at one time. 884 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, it's just it was definitely a more 885 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: physically taxing. It's got me thinking about that whole this 886 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: whole debate that's been going on about NBA players playing 887 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: in the NFL and vice versa. And it's like, bro, 888 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: like y'all don't understand. Like I watched I watched the 889 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: Mavericks play Oklahoma City last night, and just the amount 890 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 2: of whining and complaining and like they're playing that that 891 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: was was considered a very physical brand of basketball more 892 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 2: like they were liking it back to the nineties style 893 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: of basketball white And I'm like, the amount of complaining 894 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: and whining and like, mentally, I just don't see those guys. 895 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 2: They'd have to change their mindset. It's not about being 896 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 2: an athlete. You have to change your mindset to play 897 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 2: for pennies during training camp because you're not getting paid 898 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 2: your salary and it's the most physically demanding and taxting 899 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: thing that you'll ever go through. And it's Groundhog's Day 900 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 2: and it's each and every day, and you're trying to 901 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 2: take someone's job and someone's trying to take your job. Mentally, 902 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: I just don't see NA guys being willing or able 903 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: to do that. 904 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: This is why I love and hate doing shows with you. 905 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 1: You literally took everything that I was thinking and said 906 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: it better than I could say. Because I was having 907 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: this discussion with my son and I think he was 908 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: trying to troll me because he was, Oh, I agree 909 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: with Austin Rivers. NBA players could play in the NFL, 910 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, they could be just 911 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: as fast, they could be just as athletics. Some of 912 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: them might even be more athletic. But it's the training 913 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: camp and the grind of football that I don't know 914 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: if these guys can do it. And just because well, 915 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: people don't realize when they have those type of debates. 916 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: Because a name that kept being thrown out there and 917 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: he's a great athlete was oh Russell Westbrook. He could 918 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: do it, he can do it. I'm like, you know what, 919 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: maybe he can. What position you're gonna put him at? Yeah, yeah, 920 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: six ' four. So they're like, oh, he'll be a 921 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: big receiver. I'm like, is he a four to five guy? 922 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: Is he a four to four guy? You know? I 923 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: know he looks fast on the court, and again he 924 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: might be one thing we tend to forget also when 925 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: we try to say how easy it is, and I'm 926 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: throwing the quotes in the air for the people listening, 927 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: how easy it is to play in the NFL. There's 928 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are six four, run a 929 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: four to three good bench to twenty five, wrap it 930 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: out twenty times, and have a thirty eight inch vertical and. 931 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: You know what they're not doing playing football, playing in 932 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 2: the NFL. They're not good football player. Yeah, there's something 933 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: to be said for being a good football player, Like 934 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: you're you're diminishing the what it takes to be a 935 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 2: good route runner and get open in the NFL. Like 936 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 2: you can have all the height, weight, measurables all you 937 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 2: want to, but are you able to read coverages on 938 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: the run to get yourself open, to sit down in 939 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 2: the zone, to be able to high point the ball 940 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: with somebody you know grabbing you and then take the 941 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: hit and get up and then do it again like 942 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: that would give that that would give them their best 943 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: opportunity to make it as like a receiver or maybe 944 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: a tight end or something like that. But listen, man, 945 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 2: it I just feel like they need to have more 946 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: respect for what it takes to be an NFL player 947 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: and to be a one percenter and be the best 948 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: of the best of what you do, the mental, as 949 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: far as mentality and the mental as far as what 950 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 2: the playbook and all the type stuff that it takes 951 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 2: and the nuances and every single thing that you do. 952 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: And you know what, those guys are want presiders in 953 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 2: their field, and I have respect for that. But I 954 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 2: do understand and know that the intricacies in basketball aren't 955 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 2: quite the same as they are in football because there's 956 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: not as many moving parts and the way the game 957 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: is set up is for free flowing movement and for 958 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 2: guys to have success offensively. And that's why when you 959 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 2: watch a game like that last night, like I said, 960 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 2: watched the Mavericks play the thunder in the playoff game, 961 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: and it was physical, but it was physical from my perspective, 962 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 2: because I'm like, i'ven't seeing basketball like this in a 963 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: long time. The game is not like this anymore. So 964 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: that means that, you know, ninety nine percent of the 965 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: guys that are in the league right now have grown 966 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 2: up and used to a game that is not physical 967 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 2: at all. So that's why you see them guys complaining 968 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 2: and winding every two seconds because they're getting grabbed and 969 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: fouled or whatever like that. But it's like, that's that's 970 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: I would just like to see some of these guys 971 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 2: line up do inside a run where the team that 972 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 2: you're going against and knows what you're gonna run, and 973 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: you gotta line up and win your block anyway. They 974 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: know what you're gonna do. They you know what they're 975 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 2: gonna do, you know what, and you gotta go win 976 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 2: that matchup physically move a grown man where he doesn't 977 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 2: want to go. And you have to do that at 978 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 2: a consistent level because if you're not consistent at it, 979 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: you won't make the team. You won't be on. So 980 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: some of these guys can come in here and like, yeah, Okay, 981 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: he made a great catch and he lost somebody. But 982 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 2: then there's seventy other plays in the game, seven other 983 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: snaps in the game, so you have to be good 984 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: for ninety percent of those snaps. So you're not gonna 985 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: make it when you're not gonna be around head. So 986 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 2: now will said as always, all right, let's end it 987 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 2: like this. You you mentioned all the matchups, and I'm 988 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: actually more excited now after hearing you break it down. 989 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 2: But there's only one you could go to? Which one game? 990 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: Is that? 991 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: If there was one game that I could go to, 992 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: the home Because you brought up some great home games, 993 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, one home game. 994 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 2: That's tough because you got the you got the Lions 995 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: at home, you got the Bills at home, you got 996 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 2: the Ravens at home, you got the Dolphins at home. 997 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: You know we're going to be at all the games, right, 998 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: But but if there was only one game that I 999 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: could go to that was a home game, I'm gonna 1000 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: be ima, be honest, it doesn't matter the opponent. I 1001 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 2: want to be at the game when they put those 1002 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 2: h town blue jerseys. I want to be in that. 1003 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 2: I want to be in the building and to experience 1004 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: and feel that because and the reason why the opponent 1005 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, because all of them are damn good. Like 1006 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: I want to see I want to go. I want 1007 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 2: to go see the Dolphins play. I want to see 1008 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: that dophinse. I want to see how we match up 1009 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 2: against Tyreek Hill and Jayln Wilder. I want to see that. 1010 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: I want to see if we can slow down Lamar 1011 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: Jackson and Dereck Henry when they're on the field together. 1012 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 2: Like I want to see that with Mark Andrews, you know, 1013 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 2: I want to see that. Like I want to see 1014 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 2: how how can we make Josh Allen look pedestrian and 1015 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: because he doesn't have his receivers that he had the 1016 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 2: past couple of years, he lost gave Davis and he 1017 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 2: lost Stefan Diggs. Is he going to be the same 1018 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 2: guys the guy? Is he gonna be the guy that 1019 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 2: was here about four years ago in the playoff game 1020 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: that looked like like they're trying to give us the 1021 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 2: game that he actually did give us the game. Is 1022 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 2: he gonna be that He's gonna revert back to that guy? 1023 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: I want to see that, you know what I mean? 1024 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 2: Or Detroit Lions, Like I like a lot of things 1025 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 2: about the way that team is built. Like I said, 1026 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 2: they run the same offense that we run. So when 1027 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm watching them play, I'm seeing like you can feel 1028 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 2: when the play action is coming. Oh they run them, 1029 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: it's coming, and when it comes, good luck for the 1030 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: defense stopping it because they have their rules. So I 1031 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 2: want to see that. But any one of those games, 1032 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 2: I mam, and you put it at a prime time 1033 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 2: and they're coming out with those h down blue jersey. 1034 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 2: I want to be there for that. That's that's the game. 1035 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: That's the way to end that. That's the voice of 1036 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: Wade Smith joining us on the OG podcast. Don't touch 1037 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: that job, leave it here.