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Speaker 1: COVID is being replaced by something even worse. NASA has
Speaker 1: launched its war with space, and Ronnie Chang goes deep
Speaker 1: into the world of K pop. So let's do this people.
Speaker 1: Let's come straight into today's headlines. All right, everybody, Before
Speaker 1: we get into the big stories, let's catch up on
Speaker 1: a few other things going on in the world, starting
Speaker 1: with the big moments watched live around the globe last night,
Speaker 1: NASA tested a new planetary defense system by smashing a
Speaker 1: spacecraft into an asteroid. Boom, Yeah, how you like that asteroid?
Speaker 1: That was for the dinosaurs. And in case you're wondering,
Speaker 1: In case you're wondering. No, the asteroid was not heading
Speaker 1: for Earth, right, we're just testing the system wasn't heading
Speaker 1: towards us. But now the other asteroids they know not
Speaker 1: to test us. You don't mess with Earth Man, We're local,
Speaker 1: oh Man. In health and news, researchers have discovered that
Speaker 1: you can dissolve pills Foster if you lie on your
Speaker 1: right side, which raises a big question for me. How
Speaker 1: do I become a researcher? No, because it just sounds
Speaker 1: like fun. Okay, I look a lot of fun. He's
Speaker 1: sit around old day thinking random sels like huh, I
Speaker 1: wonder what would happen if I took at Ville Duggie style?
Speaker 1: Oh And in financial news, Donald Trump is back on
Speaker 1: the Forbes four hundred list of America's richest people, at
Speaker 1: number three hundred and forty three, which I love so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, how ironic is it that Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: the only guy doing well in Joe Biden's economy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up running for president and then voting
Speaker 1: for Biden. I made so much money under Joe Brandon
Speaker 1: and this Trump guy was crazy. I heard you wanted
Speaker 1: bleaching his lung. He's crazy. I'm voting for Joe. But
Speaker 1: let's move on to some of the biggest stories of
Speaker 1: the day, starting with our ongoing coverage of the war
Speaker 1: in Ukraine. It has been seven months since Vladimir Putin
Speaker 1: went all kool aid Man on Ukraine, but from day one,
Speaker 1: the war has been a disaster for him. First, Putin
Speaker 1: tried to take over all of Ukraine, but the Ukrainian
Speaker 1: Army stopped him. Then he tried to take over the
Speaker 1: eastern half, but the Ukrainian Army stopped him. Then try
Speaker 1: to slide into an Instagram model's d MS on the
Speaker 1: Instagram like it was just Instagram. So the Ukrainian Army
Speaker 1: didn't do anything because it was Instagram. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was stopped by the fact that he looks like
Speaker 1: a heavily botox gardlem in his suits. No offense to Godlem,
Speaker 1: I just need an example. The point is Vladimir Putin
Speaker 1: is not hashtag winning. So after seven months of war,
Speaker 1: the Russian Army only controls a slice of Ukraine, and
Speaker 1: now the Ukrainians are threatening to take that back too.
Speaker 1: But before all that happens, Vladimir Putin is saying, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: what about democracy in Ukraine? Russian controlled areas in the
Speaker 1: east of the country are wrapping up a series of
Speaker 1: referendums asking voters if they want to be a part
Speaker 1: of Russia. The votes are illegal under international law, and
Speaker 1: some Ukrainians have been forced to vote at gunpoint. Election
Speaker 1: officials accompanied by armed soldiers go trapsing up flights of stairs,
Speaker 1: knocking on doors searching for voters. In the past few
Speaker 1: minutes of Russian state media has announced the primary results,
Speaker 1: claiming that people have voted overwhelmingly in favor of becoming
Speaker 1: part of the Russian Federation. The results supposedly showing seven
Speaker 1: or eight percent of the vote being in favor of
Speaker 1: joining the federation. Yeah, you hear that Russian soldiers are
Speaker 1: going door to door forcing people to vote to join Russia,
Speaker 1: and so because of that of the vote has been
Speaker 1: pro putin. But I mean, let's be honest. I mean,
Speaker 1: these voters have a choice in the same way we
Speaker 1: have a choice to not accept cookies on that website.
Speaker 1: It was like, what so what if I klick no,
Speaker 1: can I not see how child stalls have aged? What
Speaker 1: kind of a choice is that nine seven percent? You know,
Speaker 1: my question is who the hell is the three percent no,
Speaker 1: I'm ready impressed by it. Who had the balls to
Speaker 1: still vote against Putin while his soldiers watched them mark
Speaker 1: their battles. Who was there, just like, yes, you have
Speaker 1: voted for your mama. Look at that. I voted for eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, because it's a sham. It looks like
Speaker 1: of the voters in this election voted to become a
Speaker 1: part of Russia. And honestly, like, why do they even
Speaker 1: go through all of this? H like going door to
Speaker 1: door making everyone sign ship just so you can do
Speaker 1: what you're already doing anyway. I mean, it's one thing
Speaker 1: to conquer a town and blow up all their buildings,
Speaker 1: but then to make them do paperwork. There is evil
Speaker 1: and then there's evil. And this is that classic middle
Speaker 1: school bully move, forcing you to say something and then
Speaker 1: acting like it's legit. So you want to eat dog? Pool?
Speaker 1: So you want to eat dog? Why? I like, he
Speaker 1: said it he likes eating dog poop. No, I didn't, Steve.
Speaker 1: I just said it because you made me say it.
Speaker 1: I'm glad your parents broke up. But let's move on
Speaker 1: to some news that's close to home. Even though the
Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic seems to finally be on its way out.
Speaker 1: I think we can all admit the world is not
Speaker 1: exactly the same as it used to be. We're less
Speaker 1: eager to shake stranger's hands. You know, people generally don't
Speaker 1: sit next to each other in public places anymore. And
Speaker 1: now every time you rub a bank, it takes so
Speaker 1: much longer for people to know you're the Robbert because
Speaker 1: everyone else is wearing a mask. Yeah, so then you
Speaker 1: have to pull out a gun. But because it's America,
Speaker 1: everyone else pulls out a gun. And it's like, at
Speaker 1: that point, you sayd up opening up a checking account
Speaker 1: and leaving. You know, I just sort of rubbed the bank.
Speaker 1: Pandemics boriled everything. But good news, good news, people, there
Speaker 1: is one part of American life that is coming roaring back.
Speaker 1: Traffic is coming back to pre pandemic levels. I've seen
Speaker 1: it with my own eyes. It's all thanks to a
Speaker 1: push for workers to return to the office. Major US cities,
Speaker 1: including Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago seeing more commuter traffic congestion,
Speaker 1: and it is growing graphic is above pre pandemic levels
Speaker 1: in Miami and Dallas. In Houston and in Phoenix. There
Speaker 1: is an interesting disparity though taking place in the numbers.
Speaker 1: Monday and Friday, that is one, traffic is typically lower,
Speaker 1: even lower than it was before the pandemic. Wednesday and
Speaker 1: Thursday are the really big days for traffic now in
Speaker 1: major cities across the country. Really starts to begin to
Speaker 1: rise today Tuesday. Yeah. You see, because everyone now works
Speaker 1: remote part time, and then everyone gets to choose which
Speaker 1: days they work remote and which those days they come in.
Speaker 1: All of the traffic that used to be during the
Speaker 1: week is now only on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, which
Speaker 1: sucks one of the cramped together. I will say, as
Speaker 1: bad as bad as it displus humans, it is good
Speaker 1: for the cause, you know. Yeah, because now the traffic
Speaker 1: is slow, it gives them a chance to catch up again.
Speaker 1: Hey there, Craig, Hey, hey Greg montime no say buddy,
Speaker 1: Hey yeah, a nice paint job. Nothing wrong with turning
Speaker 1: back the clock a little bit, huh me. Yeah, things
Speaker 1: have been good. Some teenagers had sex in me. That
Speaker 1: was cool. Oh good. Do you hear about Jerry by
Speaker 1: the way, his owner dubbed him for an electric Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's taking it real hard. He's hooked on diesel. Now.
Speaker 1: It's a real shame, man. Oh final way, it's take
Speaker 1: my latest movie. See you in two seconds, buddy, ha
Speaker 1: ha ha. You know you know, when when you think
Speaker 1: about it, the new traffic problem makes sense, right because
Speaker 1: everyone would rob this spend an extra day at home
Speaker 1: on a Monday and a Friday, and that means that
Speaker 1: those days are gonna be the days when everyone's chiling, right,
Speaker 1: because those are the days when you're making the hangover
Speaker 1: recovering from the hangover, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now, but now think about this. If everyone is
Speaker 1: choosing the same days to be on the road, then
Speaker 1: those days are gonna suck even more, which means Tuesday
Speaker 1: is gonna be the new Friday, and then Thursday is
Speaker 1: gonna be the new Monday. And then wait what, well,
Speaker 1: I guess Wednesday still gonna be in the middle of
Speaker 1: the weird day in the middle, like the d that
Speaker 1: nobody even uses. Like who says Weddings day anyway? Huh?
Speaker 1: It's probably the same people who say February should be arrested.
Speaker 1: The point is. The point is this problem is happening
Speaker 1: because the week was designed incorrectly. Yeah, I think about it.
Speaker 1: Who said the week has to be seven days? Huh?
Speaker 1: It's not a rule. That's what people don't realize. If
Speaker 1: we all do the same week, it's not going to
Speaker 1: get better. My solution is, instead of seven days, we
Speaker 1: should have a five day week. Think about it. Think
Speaker 1: about it, because you've seen every study that comes out
Speaker 1: that says the few of the days we work doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that production goes down, right, No productivity decreases. What
Speaker 1: we do is spend extra time in the office, spending
Speaker 1: like we're working when really we're just we're just googling
Speaker 1: how long until Friday gets here? So we don't actually
Speaker 1: need more days in the office. Think about three days
Speaker 1: of work. That's what I proposed. We do three days
Speaker 1: of work, two days a weekend. Yeah. Yeah, three days
Speaker 1: of work, two days of weekend. It sounds like a
Speaker 1: perfect week. Yeah, let's traffic. He's just like, oh, it's Monday. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's Wemsday already, Friday? Why that week? By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need Monday off. I've got a thing. It's
Speaker 1: a perfect week. All right. That's it for today's headlines.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to something that everyone loves. Now. It's
Speaker 1: time to check in on today's lotto numbers. Without very
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, slow and everybody so much a two year
Speaker 1: day days. How how are you doing today? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I woke up on the right side of the dirt.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is, baby, all right, Well
Speaker 1: they'll say hit us with the numbers. You know I
Speaker 1: heard Trump back on the forms. Oh yeah, yeah he is,
Speaker 1: he is, Like I give a damn Listen. They just
Speaker 1: keep putting out this list, Like why are we supposed
Speaker 1: to care? It's just a bunch of drunk It's like
Speaker 1: a bunch of rich mother we don't know, Like why
Speaker 1: am I supposed to care that you're rich? I still
Speaker 1: eat a checkers? Like what are we talking about? Right?
Speaker 1: Like why don't we need to know this information? Like
Speaker 1: they're basically giving us a list of four hundred people
Speaker 1: we should rob. It's like a calm starter pack, like
Speaker 1: don't rob your neighbor, rob number twenty six. Like it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Okay, well, speaking of cash, thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing all of that. Can we get the loss of numbers?
Speaker 1: Please listen, I'm trying to tell you something. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got an asteroid story with NASA. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: know NASA. I love the Space Museum. I mean I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go to space because I don't believe in going
Speaker 1: anywhere where you have to bring your own air. It's
Speaker 1: that I'll never scoopa dive, Like if I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be down there, I'd have gills. This is dumb, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not that little Haley girl. I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: down there. What I'm saying is did you see the
Speaker 1: live stream? Yeah, the video that they had, yet they
Speaker 1: put the camera on the front of the thing. If
Speaker 1: you put it on the like it was running into
Speaker 1: the asteroid. So I didn't like. It was like watching
Speaker 1: a video or someone falling down wearing a goatpro like
Speaker 1: are you okay? Am I okay? Are we dead? Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening there? Who's science? Listen? We
Speaker 1: ganged up on an innocent asteroid just minding his business
Speaker 1: being in space, believe in what he believes, being a
Speaker 1: horoscope you know, I mean that space, that's where the
Speaker 1: horoscopes come from. Rang, It was Innie, what are you trying?
Speaker 1: Weren't throwing a little machine unto that little asteroid living
Speaker 1: his life. It's bullying. We were messing with that little asteroid.
Speaker 1: What if we piste off his mama. You've seen the cartoons,
Speaker 1: you know, when you mess with the little baby something
Speaker 1: to Mama, always show up Piste the lasteroids, Mama just
Speaker 1: gonna be floating out there like who crashed into you?
Speaker 1: Don't tell me it was NaSTA Every damn time? Is
Speaker 1: that Nata boy? Okay, I don't say. I don't think
Speaker 1: the asteroid has a mom And I feel like we've
Speaker 1: run out of time completely. Can you can you just
Speaker 1: give us the lots of numbers right now? Please? Do
Speaker 1: say we need the numbers? Fine? One thirty four back
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no. You used all of my time
Speaker 1: for your stories and none of them for the luck
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about the new. What I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: can't do them all at once, right, You gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta like you gotta take your time, build a suspense.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I got your spends. Bye, don't says learning
Speaker 1: everybody a right when we come back. What I'm trying
Speaker 1: to our teacher about hipop hip hop? So I'll go
Speaker 1: a wait, you can't. You can't just disappear in the
Speaker 1: middle of the middle. Everybody. What I'm not gonna get
Speaker 1: a show. One of the biggest trends in music over
Speaker 1: the last few years has been K pop. But while
Speaker 1: it might be new to you, k pop has a
Speaker 1: long and fascinating history, So let's find out about it.
Speaker 1: In another edition of Ronnie Chang teaches you about a
Speaker 1: as Alright, alright, settled down, everyone, because today while learning
Speaker 1: about something that's blowing up all over the world. No,
Speaker 1: not climate change, Okay, I don't teach boring stuff in
Speaker 1: this classroom. I'm talking about k pop. It's why your
Speaker 1: cousins only speaks Korean and more fluently than English. And
Speaker 1: believe it or not, k pop used to be something
Speaker 1: that only Koreans knew about. The rest of the world
Speaker 1: wasn't always into it, like how there was a time
Speaker 1: when white people didn't know about yoga. The first group
Speaker 1: to really break through internationally it was the Kim Sisters.
Speaker 1: So Ja Ninja started singing as children during the Korean
Speaker 1: War for American g i's. They sang, they danced, and
Speaker 1: they played twenty instruments. I can't even name twenty instruments saxophone.
Speaker 1: In nine nine, they got a contract to perform in
Speaker 1: Vegas and Sullivan was taping a show there, and they
Speaker 1: managed to book a performance on the show. There was
Speaker 1: such a hit they got asked back twenty more times.
Speaker 1: Do you know how great you have to be to
Speaker 1: get asked back to anything twenty times? I don't even
Speaker 1: get invited to join LinkedIn that much. Unfortunately, the growth
Speaker 1: of K pop hit a bump in the road soon
Speaker 1: after when South Korea fell under the dictatorship of President
Speaker 1: Pak Chung he, who started banning music. They even created
Speaker 1: blacklist of songs that radio stations couldn't play. Everyone's end
Speaker 1: of yr Spotify summary just said your most played song
Speaker 1: was the national anthem. But Korean artists kept making music
Speaker 1: that challenged the status quo, like folksinger Hande Soup, whose
Speaker 1: albums were banned for anti government messaging, or rock guitarist
Speaker 1: Saint John Koon, who the story goes to find the
Speaker 1: dictator's request the song in his honor, and let's face it,
Speaker 1: wanting a song to be written about you is classic
Speaker 1: dictator behavior. Right after military parades and having a weird haircut,
Speaker 1: everyone tells you looks great. By the eighties, the dictatorship
Speaker 1: had loosened, and by lucen, I mean the dictator was assassinated,
Speaker 1: but whatever it made listen to the radio fun again.
Speaker 1: Outside music was allowed back in the country, and two
Speaker 1: of the most influential genres became hip hop and R
Speaker 1: and B. Black artist from Michael Jackson to Run D
Speaker 1: n C reshaped the musical landscape of South Korea. It
Speaker 1: inspired performers like Dudes, DJ d o C and So
Speaker 1: T G and Boys, who are the earliest examples of
Speaker 1: K pop as we know it today. They even made
Speaker 1: it into the movie soundtrack for Three Ninjas Kicked Back.
Speaker 1: You didn't think we'll be watching a movie in class today,
Speaker 1: did you? Yeah? Well, I didn't think. I still have
Speaker 1: a hangover, But sometimes live surprises m This was a
Speaker 1: big moment for Korean pop music, even if the song
Speaker 1: was being played over scenes set in Japan. But give
Speaker 1: them a break. Okay, there are the Three Ninja's, not
Speaker 1: the three cultural sensitivity experts. The next big step towards
Speaker 1: today's K pop was in the ninety nineties, when major
Speaker 1: music studios started putting performers together in boy and girl bands.
Speaker 1: That's right, Korea was doing that long before Simon Carwell's
Speaker 1: nips ever started poking through his T shirts. That's a
Speaker 1: no from Me Dog, No Surprise. This new wave of
Speaker 1: K pop blew up around the world. It feature complex
Speaker 1: melodies unlike any other pop music and always had next
Speaker 1: level of dance choreography. To this day, those remained the
Speaker 1: signature elements of K pop. That and being Asian very
Speaker 1: important requirement. This new generation of K pop stars became
Speaker 1: so successful the government started to take notice and soon
Speaker 1: lost the program to promote career music around the globe.
Speaker 1: They saw K pop as a way to boost Korea's
Speaker 1: cultural strength and economy without having to do a squid game.
Speaker 1: But one of the biggest K pop sensations was a
Speaker 1: surprise no government could predict. I'm sorry. I know it
Speaker 1: took you ten years to get this out of your head,
Speaker 1: but we got to talk about it. Gunham Style was
Speaker 1: the first video to break up billion views on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It was so popular. UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon
Speaker 1: praised the song, saying the odds was the path to
Speaker 1: cultural understanding. He said that about Condemned Style, that's like
Speaker 1: if they played baby Shot during a war and all
Speaker 1: the soldier started laying down their weapons and hugging each other.
Speaker 1: Since then, the rest of the world is more into
Speaker 1: k pop than ever before, from girl groups like Girls
Speaker 1: Generation and Black Pink to artists like cl But let's
Speaker 1: get to the group you've been waiting for. The reason
Speaker 1: you are enrolled in this class in the first place.
Speaker 1: Btcast three letters so important the rest of the alphabet
Speaker 1: doesn't even exist anymore. They've dominated a chart, They've generated
Speaker 1: billions in revenue. They made it okay to eat butter again.
Speaker 1: They even increased tourism to South Korea. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: glad my fans on that devoted because then they'd have
Speaker 1: to travel to Australia, which, trust me, you don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. BTS is, without a doubt, the biggest
Speaker 1: group in the world. You can tell by their fans.
Speaker 1: The BPS Army is the second largest military after the US,
Speaker 1: and they've drown zero weddings. BATS might be on hiatus,
Speaker 1: but there's so much new K pop we can enjoy
Speaker 1: what they're gone. And now you know how it got
Speaker 1: to where it is today. Oh gunam style h Now
Speaker 1: it's in my hair with God get it out. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much about Ronnie Arts. They tuned because when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna be chatting with one of
Speaker 1: the most popular philosophers of our time were on the castles.
Speaker 1: You don't go a a Welcome back to the n Show.
Speaker 1: My guest tonight there's a philosophy profector at Oxford and
Speaker 1: he's an entrepreneur who helped start the effective altruism movements.
Speaker 1: He's going to talk about that and his new book
Speaker 1: about improving the future of humanity called What We Owe
Speaker 1: the Future. Please welcome William Mccaskelly W. McCasker welcomes to
Speaker 1: the Day Show. Thanks so much for having me. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. It's a it's interesting speaking to
Speaker 1: a philosoph because when they say philosopher, I remember thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be like a ninety year old man
Speaker 1: with like a stick and what is the meaning of life?
Speaker 1: And wherever I can't even get a beard? And I
Speaker 1: suck as a philosopher. Um, you you're not. You're not
Speaker 1: just young. You're very successful. You you you know you're
Speaker 1: a professor who deals with I guess are you dealing
Speaker 1: with some of the biggest moral issues in society. Help
Speaker 1: me understand what your field of expertise actually is. So
Speaker 1: I'm a little different from a normal moral philosopher. Because
Speaker 1: I'm a little less heading the sky clouds. I want
Speaker 1: to fundamentally, I want to make the world a better place,
Speaker 1: and so I'm asking the question, how can we do
Speaker 1: as much as possible to make the world better? That's
Speaker 1: what effective altism is about. And so the marvel questions
Speaker 1: that I'm addressing those that we need to figure out
Speaker 1: if we want to answer that question where there are
Speaker 1: just so many problems in the world, which the poverty,
Speaker 1: effactively farming, chance of the next pandemic, how how do
Speaker 1: we prioritize among them if we want to do as
Speaker 1: much good as we can? Is it is it even
Speaker 1: possible to do that? You know? One of the first
Speaker 1: questions somebody may ask in response to you, is our
Speaker 1: humans inherently good? What would you? What would you? What
Speaker 1: would you say to them if they asked their question.
Speaker 1: I think in response to that, just humans are very malleable,
Speaker 1: so people can be inspired to do amazing things, terrific things. Again,
Speaker 1: I've seen this now, thousands of people committing to give
Speaker 1: at least ten percent of income, often much more to
Speaker 1: those causes that will do the most good. So by
Speaker 1: promoting the idea of effect of autism, I've seen many
Speaker 1: people get inspired to do good, but you can also
Speaker 1: inspire people to do bad. The history of the twentieth
Speaker 1: century the banality of evil just how people could, even
Speaker 1: good people could get swayed by bad ideologies and produced
Speaker 1: horrific outcomes. So let's talk a little bit about convincing
Speaker 1: people to give money to cause is that will benefit
Speaker 1: the planets or humans around them. In in this book,
Speaker 1: you talk about the future in a really interesting way.
Speaker 1: What we owe the future your your argument and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Is basically that we have a
Speaker 1: moral obligation to sort of quote unquote our future self,
Speaker 1: like the future humans, the humans that will inhabit the planet,
Speaker 1: because what we come into was created, was created or
Speaker 1: shaped by someone, and somebody's going to come into that,
Speaker 1: and so we have a moral obligation. Some people might
Speaker 1: say to you, oh, yeah, well I'm here now, and
Speaker 1: you know nobody did anything for me, So why should
Speaker 1: I care about what happens to somebody who's around when
Speaker 1: I'm not? Yeah, Or you might ask what should we
Speaker 1: do for future people? Know? What have they ever done
Speaker 1: for us? Well, and they haven't ever because they're going
Speaker 1: to what are they going to ever have done for
Speaker 1: us exactly for sure. Um, but I think the idea
Speaker 1: that we should care about future people is just utterly
Speaker 1: common sense. So imagine you're walking, Um, you're hiking on
Speaker 1: the trail, and you drop some glass and it shatters,
Speaker 1: and you wonder, should I pick up the glass when
Speaker 1: I clean after myself. Maybe someone will walk along the
Speaker 1: trail and cut themselves, And you think, well, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously I should because I don't want to harm someone.
Speaker 1: But now I just imagine, do they cut themselves tomorrow
Speaker 1: or in a year's time or in a hundred years time?
Speaker 1: Would that change the morality of the situation? I don't think. So.
Speaker 1: Harm is harm no matter when it occurs. And just
Speaker 1: as we should care about people whether they're in this
Speaker 1: country or on the other side of the planet, no
Speaker 1: matter where they are in space, we should care about
Speaker 1: people no matter where they are in time as well.
Speaker 1: So how do how do we begin to get people
Speaker 1: to agree with that? Because, um, you're based on the
Speaker 1: UK right, and and so if I if I've read
Speaker 1: you know my research correctly? You donate, is it how
Speaker 1: many of your income? Yes? A little more than that. Actually, now,
Speaker 1: so you you donate more than fifty of your income
Speaker 1: to causes that you believe in. Yeah, that's like right,
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. And and some people would say insane. Right.
Speaker 1: And when I when I when I heard that you
Speaker 1: did this, I remember thinking, Oh, but is it easier
Speaker 1: to do it because you come from a place where
Speaker 1: your health care will be taken care of. Is it
Speaker 1: easier to do this because you feel like there's a
Speaker 1: social net or is it hard no matter where you're from.
Speaker 1: Like many Americans would say, well, I can't give away
Speaker 1: my money because I don't know how much a hospital
Speaker 1: will will be. I can't give me my money because
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to need to pay
Speaker 1: for or not. How do you convince people that giving
Speaker 1: away what they would say is hard earned is actually
Speaker 1: better for them when it's for others. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things here. So one is just
Speaker 1: I acknowledge I'm in this position of unbelievable privilege, born
Speaker 1: into avileged country, I was well educated. Um, and that means,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I have like a responsibility to
Speaker 1: use you know, that privilege do good in the world.
Speaker 1: But the piking thing is that even after my giving
Speaker 1: so I try'd give, you know, everything above about thirty
Speaker 1: that still puts me in the richest flee percent of
Speaker 1: the world's population. If you're in earning sixty dollars per year,
Speaker 1: you're in the richest one percent. You are the one
Speaker 1: percent globally speaking. And so I'm okay, I'm giving, but
Speaker 1: I can hardly complain I'm still in the richest three percent.
Speaker 1: But the crucial thing really is, I thought this was
Speaker 1: going to be a sacrifice. I thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be hard but worth it because it was going
Speaker 1: to benefit so many people. But it's actually not. I've
Speaker 1: actually found it incredibly of awarding thing to do, and
Speaker 1: I think my life is actually happier as a result.
Speaker 1: So it means, you know, I don't have a big
Speaker 1: car house, I don't have a fancy car, but I
Speaker 1: do have wonderful relationships. I've got wonderful friends. I'm also
Speaker 1: part of this broader community, effective autism community that is
Speaker 1: inspiring hard working people who are really focused on trying
Speaker 1: to make the world better. And I hope at least
Speaker 1: we're really making a positive difference. And that's just that's
Speaker 1: worth more than all the luxury goods that money could
Speaker 1: buy Wow, it's a it's it's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: mind shift. I think it's a mind shift that's extremely
Speaker 1: difficult to achieve, which is, you know, I guess why
Speaker 1: you do the work that you do. It's also interesting
Speaker 1: to see how many billionaires have signed onto your ideas.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody from uh, you know, Bill Gates to
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who don't even agree with each other, by
Speaker 1: the way, and have both said, oh, yeah, I really
Speaker 1: like what William is saying. I really agree with this.
Speaker 1: I think we should be giving away vast amounts of
Speaker 1: our wealth, et cetera. But but when I when I
Speaker 1: see this, I often think to myself, it's easy for
Speaker 1: us to say people should give away ten percent whatever
Speaker 1: of their welcome, say everyone should do this of their income.
Speaker 1: But when you get to a certain point, ten percent
Speaker 1: or twenty percent of your income doesn't affect your life.
Speaker 1: And if you're a billion and you give away ten
Speaker 1: yes it's a huge number, but it doesn't change this
Speaker 1: person's life. Where somebody who's working paycheck to paycheck notices
Speaker 1: when ten percent or twenty percent of their money has gone.
Speaker 1: So shouldn't this be an obligation that is placed predominantly
Speaker 1: at the feet of those who are the most privilege.
Speaker 1: So I think it's absolutely an obligation on the most
Speaker 1: play words. So yeah, if you're billionaire, so Bill Gates,
Speaker 1: you know, ushered in a new era of billionaire philanthropy
Speaker 1: saying I think the standards should be high more and
Speaker 1: um so yeah, I mean people are laughing, but a
Speaker 1: decent chunk of my life is talking to billionaires and
Speaker 1: trying to convince them to get what you say will
Speaker 1: help me understand this, help me understand. So I mean,
Speaker 1: so it's billionaires on the tories from not giving their
Speaker 1: money away. I think that's going to change at least
Speaker 1: what do you say? What do you say to them? Well,
Speaker 1: at least for some. So we say two things. One
Speaker 1: like you say, just money just above a certain threshold,
Speaker 1: money just doesn't affect your well being to come on.
Speaker 1: And then secondly, money can be used to make a
Speaker 1: transformative difference across three thousand dollars to save a life
Speaker 1: by protecting children and subsid in Africa from Middle Area
Speaker 1: by distributing insecticides hed bednets. This is a very reliable,
Speaker 1: well evidenced facts. Three thousand dollars and that's with insecticides,
Speaker 1: the bednettings bednets to protect them from malaria, which is
Speaker 1: still one of the biggest, if not the biggest killer.
Speaker 1: Thousands of children every day die unnecessarily. There are other
Speaker 1: risks to write pandemics is something one way about nuclear
Speaker 1: war and so yeah, the case is just like, look,
Speaker 1: it's gonna make almost no difference in your life. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be enormously impactful for the world. And actually we've
Speaker 1: seen success. So there are a number of people in
Speaker 1: the kind of border effected Alters movement Dustin Moskovitz now
Speaker 1: sandbanking Feet who are planning to give more. And I
Speaker 1: think that can be the new standard. Wow. When you
Speaker 1: when you talk in the book, you know that there
Speaker 1: are parts that I that I read where you interrogate
Speaker 1: the reader to ask questions about how they view the
Speaker 1: world and and I think, most importantly how much they
Speaker 1: want to make a difference. So, for instance, you'll you
Speaker 1: hear you say if you want to make an impact
Speaker 1: and climate change, you know there are things you can do.
Speaker 1: For instance, you can become a vegetarian. You can say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and limit my carbon output. If
Speaker 1: you really care, you can say I'm going to travel less,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly less, or I'm going to ride a
Speaker 1: bicycle more or whatever whatever it may be. You're talking
Speaker 1: to people, and you're talking to individuals. Do you feel
Speaker 1: that the messages as well received by corporations that have
Speaker 1: like an outsize output, because every one person can try
Speaker 1: to do one thing, but like most of the smoke
Speaker 1: that's coming out, and you know, most of the output,
Speaker 1: you know, the carbon output is it's coming from concentrated places. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying individuals don't make a big contribution, but
Speaker 1: do you find any of those big sources are are
Speaker 1: receptive to this or is or is the money too
Speaker 1: big and the phase too obscure? Yeah, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I've been kind of disappointed attempts to move companies in
Speaker 1: a more philanthropic direction, because corporate philanthropy the time is
Speaker 1: a pr mechanism, and so some of the misconceptions that
Speaker 1: people have about how best to fight climate change you
Speaker 1: can actually see being promoted by fossil fuel companies. So
Speaker 1: Shell is very keen on the idea that, um, what
Speaker 1: we should be doing is reducing our carbon footprint personally,
Speaker 1: whereas what we should be trying to do is put
Speaker 1: the fossil fuel companies out of business. I see why,
Speaker 1: and we as individuals can help do that. So look,
Speaker 1: if you trying to reduce your own carbon footprint in
Speaker 1: the US, American UM will admit about fifteen tons of
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide. UM, go be a hero. Do everything you can.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can get that to zero. You can do
Speaker 1: as much good as if you know you've never been born.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of standard. UM, But we can do
Speaker 1: so much more than that. Donate your income. Let's say
Speaker 1: that's three fairs dollars for the very most targeted organizations
Speaker 1: funding clean technology, the sort of thing that means we
Speaker 1: no longer need to lie in fossil fuels. Then you
Speaker 1: would then you would reduce the amount of carbon dioxide
Speaker 1: going into the atmosphere by something that's more like three
Speaker 1: thousand tons per year. So you'd be doing two hundred
Speaker 1: times as much good with very targeted donations to the
Speaker 1: most effective nonprofits, even compared to your this you know,
Speaker 1: veric effort to take just three thousand It's like you
Speaker 1: have a choice three thousand dollars or just never be
Speaker 1: borne that three thousand dollars sounds cheap. I think that
Speaker 1: sounds like a cheap pechnik. It was pretty good. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining me on the chinking son.
Speaker 1: I wish I could encompass everything in the book, but
Speaker 1: that's why you wrote the bottle. I hope to see
Speaker 1: you again whenever. Castle everybody what we also features have
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