1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: I was going to say something else that I was interested. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: It was about your father being nocturnal, you know, and 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: that's so what was that like having a father that? 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Did that mean he said more during the day? Did 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: you know? 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to say all of it? 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: So did you What was that like? 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think I've decided that I'm semi nocturnal genetically, 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: because I do think it's genetic because I know people 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: who are just mourning people and then people who are like, 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just like low energy until like noon, 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, what are we doing? So I 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: think if I had my brothers, I would probably work 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: at night and I'd probably go to better around like 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: two or three. My dad didn't ever go to sleep 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: before seven am, wow, since he was like sixteen, because 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: he started at the jazz clubs in high school and 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: then from there it's like his life was at night. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: So he'd go to sleep at seven and he'd wake 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: up at like three pm. So in order to see 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: him and hang out with him, A, I would see 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: him after school. He was waking up when I came 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: up from school, and then b I would often like 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: go to sleep at the appropriate time, you know, when 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: I was eight or nine or whatever. And then I 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: would wake up at like one am, and I'd tiptoe 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: up to his room and he would be usually working 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: in the bathroom. He'd have all of his like sheet 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: music like splayed out on the bathroom floor, and I 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: would just go hang out with him, and then I 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: would eventually fall asleep on his lap or something or 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: on the floor. So that was like a common practice 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: for me, and that was. 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: A image seeing your father. I have a friend who 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: used to his father was a screenwriter in Hollywood. He 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: used to kind of tiptoe into his father's study in 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the day and his father would be 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: asleep on the sofa and he'd wake up and he'd say, 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: can't you see I'm working? 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: No, I actually can't. I very much cannot see that working. 41 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: It is working. I agree in apping is working, absolutely. 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: But it's lay on the on the on the floor. 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: But he took you in, you did he never know? 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: He never was like to be your sisters. 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Did they do that as well? Really? 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: No, I think I'm more nocturnal. I am sort of 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: like and I really like I loved watching him in 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: process because he did love to be undisturbed, and he 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: sort of knew he could do that when everybody else 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: was asleep. And there's something I think for him that 51 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: was like cozy about knowing he was like in the 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: safety of his home with his family, but then could 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: also do his work. You know, what was his What 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: was he doing was he he was scoring. He would 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: he'd be scoring, or he'd be writing charts for to record, 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: he'd be looking. I mean that's also like I've always 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: had just such awe over that, Like you just he 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: could look at music and know what he was looking 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: at and hear it while he was looking at it 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: without actually listening to something, which is just an amazing skill. 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: But he also he had synesthesia. I feel like people 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: talk about having that a lot. It basically is like 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: you see sounds, oh you have there's some connection between 64 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: two of your senses, so you can you know, you 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: hear like some people will tell you that one color 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: is directly related to a number, or you see, like 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: when he hears music, he sees colors for each note 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: and it's very specific and it doesn't change. Yeah, So 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: I think for him it's such an all encompassing, all 70 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: sensory experience to work on music that I don't think 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: he even needed to hear it in a weird way. 72 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, when he was working on it, did you were. 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: You encouraged to play an instrument? Yeah? 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I play piano. I kind of peaked at age twelve. 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: But you know what I did too, not them in 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: any range of yours. And then recently, I all about 77 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: ten year years ago, I started taking piano lest Yeah. 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Okay, we need to talk about that. Yes, I want to. 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: Do that comes back. Yeah. I was reading and I 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: went straight to the classics. You know, Yes, I've been 81 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: playing the same Mozart sonata for a very long time. 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: But there's something about the focus that you actually there 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: with the teacher next to you, and I'm going to 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: have to get it's very kind of quiet. 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: Nice. 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: I started last year. I started trying to teach myself 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: how to read because. 89 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: I have a teacher. 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. It was good though. I just I just 91 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: kind of plunk through and I got better. It's just 92 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: like it's just you just do it over. I was 93 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: practicing every day, and I was doing my back conventions, 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: which is how we first learned how to play. And 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: you know, you get a little bit better every day 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: and I'm still terrible. Just the feeling that you can 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: get better at anything. As you get older, it is 98 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: like it's hard to remember that. Yea. So it's good 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: to be bad at something and then get a little 100 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: better every day, or. 101 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: To just remember some something that from your childhood that 102 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: comes back, you know, A say, I remember I must 103 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: have been very, very very young when I took piano lessons, 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: because I said to someone the other day. The teacher said, Ruthie, 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you didn't practice, and i'ment, how can 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: you could you tell? And she said, oh, a little 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: bird told me, and I believed her. You see, I 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: must have been either very stupid. 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Or very young. 110 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: Who's that bird? Bird talk can tell you that? I 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: wasn't pride to say so. I hope I was really young, 112 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: like two or three.