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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase that Lee.

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Speaker 2: This is the Philly Show. Hi, everybody, Rubin Tomorrow Junior,

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Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury, Todd z Olecky. Brought to you by the

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Speaker 2: Foul Territory Network. It is Monday morning, January sixth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Guys, how are we doing. How's your weekend?

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Speaker 2: You have a good weekend?

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Speaker 3: Excellent? How about you?

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Speaker 2: It was good? My weekend is continuing. Today's a snow day,

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Speaker 2: so all three all three kids, all three kids are

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Speaker 2: home from school. We did the math last night. My

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Speaker 2: middle child, Margo, she's in kindergarten. She has now been

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Speaker 2: off of school for nineteenth days, nineteen almost three weeks.

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Speaker 1: She's living her that's very easy on riot. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: she's living. Our daughter.

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Speaker 2: Margo's living her best life. She just doesn't know it,

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Speaker 2: you know, she's nineteenth straight days.

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Speaker 3: On this snow day. I'm going to dig into this.

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Speaker 3: This is a book preserved honor by our good friend

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Speaker 3: ed Wayne. Oh yeah, I love it. Yeah. I ordered

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Speaker 3: it on Amazon and I'm looking forward to getting into

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Speaker 3: it today and watching the snowfall. So it should be fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's got a birthday coming up at the

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Speaker 4: end of this month, but my dad. Just in addition,

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to mention that there's a pretty special

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Speaker 4: day for my dad, A heavenly birthday for Rube Senor

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Speaker 4: would have been eighty nine, I believe today and think

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Speaker 4: about him all the time. Miss him dearly, and as

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Speaker 4: many of you who have lost your one or two

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Speaker 4: of your parents. It's a memorable day for me, but

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Speaker 4: also brings back some great, great memories of.

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Speaker 1: What he meant to us and to me and to

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Speaker 1: our family.

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Speaker 3: Well, happy birthday. Yeah, remains a good man in all

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Speaker 3: our hearts. So yeah birthday.

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Speaker 2: What a great what a great what a great guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean I talked him a few times over the years,

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Speaker 2: and as allays, I was like, what a good what

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Speaker 2: a good man, what a good man?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, happy, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One of my proudest one of my proudest moments was that,

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Speaker 4: you know, having the opportunity to work with my dad

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Speaker 4: and Wade. As you mentioned earlier, Jim uh graciously brought

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Speaker 4: my bat dad back into the organization as a minor

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Speaker 4: league instructor for many years, and uh, while I was

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Speaker 4: in the assistant GM post, he would uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: we would invite all of our you know, rovers into

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Speaker 4: spring training major League camp, and so I would stay

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Speaker 4: with him with my and he with my kids during

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Speaker 4: the course of the spring and clear Water just brought

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Speaker 4: back justus, brings back tremendous memories during this time as

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Speaker 4: we get closer and closer to pictures and catchers.

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Speaker 1: How much time he.

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Speaker 4: Got to spend with my kids and with my girls,

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Speaker 4: and those were great moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great stuff. And Ruben, this weekend I got

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Speaker 3: to see you, brother David. I was in DC for

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Speaker 3: the American Baseball Coaches Association Convention. I was down there

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Speaker 3: with my friends from Perfect Games. So it was good

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Speaker 3: to see David. And it just is amazing how many

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Speaker 3: the dedication of baseball coaches and all coaches in sports.

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Speaker 3: But I mean just to see all these baseball coaches

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Speaker 3: really of all ages just there, you know, the dedication

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Speaker 3: to their craft in using the event as a resource

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Speaker 3: and sitting in on all these conferences about coaching techniques,

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Speaker 3: everything from coaching techniques to strategy to equipment to handling kids.

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Speaker 3: Just amazing. And there's so many wonderful coaches out there

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Speaker 3: just who love the game and give to the game.

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Speaker 3: And your brother David is one of those guys. It

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Speaker 3: was just great to see this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my brother, I got to give a shout out

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Speaker 4: doing family stuff, and you know, for Philly, my brother's

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Speaker 4: been running the Philly Bandits for a long long time

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Speaker 4: and he's tremendously passionate about it. He's carried on my

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Speaker 4: dad's sort of legacy with the Ruben Marles Senior Foundation

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Speaker 4: and so many different things that he's been involved with. With

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Speaker 4: youth baseball, my brother's done an amazing job of trying

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Speaker 4: to create opportunities for young kids and both male and

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Speaker 4: female software are involved in some softball tough too. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: his dedication to youth baseball has been just amazing and

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Speaker 4: he's been doing it for many, many years and he

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Speaker 4: certainly deserves a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of love for that. Man. It's it's it's not

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Speaker 4: I will tell you that it's been something that's it's

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Speaker 4: a labor of love for him and really proud of him.

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Speaker 3: For that, as you should be. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim, Well I saw on Twitter you ran out.

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Speaker 2: You ran into somebody down at the show and he

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Speaker 2: said we talked the safety squeeze and cheeseburgers. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: I see your reputation has preceded you.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ran to a bunch of local coaches and had

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Speaker 3: some great conversations.

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 3: That was John from timber Creek High School in John

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Speaker 3: Kate's timber Creek High School in South Jersey. Just like

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Speaker 3: I was mentioning, these guys are so dedicated to their craft,

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Speaker 3: so dedic dedicated to the kids, and so dedicated to

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Speaker 3: warm spot for high school baseball coaches, youth baseball coaches

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Speaker 3: as well, like Grouve, My dad was a high school coach.

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Speaker 3: So great weekend, Great weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure John asked you some some Phillies questions yesterday.

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Speaker 2: On all of our social media platforms, we asked for

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Speaker 2: Phillies questions, and man, did we get a ton. I

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Speaker 2: know I always say that, but our audience grows, and

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Speaker 2: we appreciate everybody that has subscribed to us on whatever

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Speaker 2: podcast platform they listen to or YouTube or whatever. It

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Speaker 2: is crazy how the number of questions keeps growing and

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Speaker 2: growing and growing on all the different platforms. So we

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Speaker 2: got a ton, and we're going to try to get

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Speaker 2: to a few here, and let's start with the most

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Speaker 2: basic question of all, and this is from our Phils

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Speaker 2: twenty two on YouTube. If this is it for the

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Speaker 2: Phillies this offseason, are you guys satisfied? If this is it,

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Speaker 2: are you satisfied? Ruben? Are you happy?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: I'm happy because I think they're still one of the best,

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Speaker 4: top maybe four or five teams in all baseball. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you look at the and you know, papers, paper, but

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Speaker 4: when you look at the overall length and breadth of

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Speaker 4: the talent of the team, I mean, you can't deny

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Speaker 4: that it's probably the best rotation in baseball. Although the

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Speaker 1: But I do still think that there's some time to

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Speaker 4: I know that there's continuing to try to do some things,

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Speaker 4: and they're not going to stop trying. I would like to

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Speaker 4: I just don't know what kind of production will have.

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Speaker 4: So there's a little bit of a question mark still

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Speaker 4: Scott's a huge key for them because he can be

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Speaker 4: the type of player that's necessary to make that lineup longer.

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Speaker 4: Whether he's at the top of it or in the

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Speaker 1: Am I satisfied. I'm never satisfied. I want the best team.

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Speaker 1: I want as many great players as possible. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's a really, really good team.

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Speaker 4: They will compete for the World Series because of the

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Speaker 4: talent that they have today.

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Speaker 1: And as I said, I think they have got a

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Speaker 4: I really, I really think that Rob Thompson's pretty special.

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Speaker 4: So I fully believe that there are a contending teams,

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Speaker 4: There's no question about it. But there's always room for improvement.

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Speaker 4: As mister Lee used to say all the time, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think. I think the word satisfy is an interesting word.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me. I don't think good athletes and good teams

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Speaker 3: are really ever satisfied until you have a parade, and

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Speaker 3: then it starts over again, and you're not satisfied for

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Speaker 3: the next season, because you know, there's always something to gain,

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Speaker 3: always something to get better at, always a new achievement

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Speaker 3: I like the rotation. How could you not love the

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Speaker 3: think they'll play in October and then you've got to

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Speaker 3: go perform. You've got to play good at the right time.

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Speaker 3: I do think Turner and Stot are key, and I

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Speaker 3: do think there's more there offensively, both guys, Turner, consistent, consistency, stop,

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Speaker 3: more production. But I just think there's probably twenty seven

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Speaker 3: performing and in terms of roster construction, because that's such

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Speaker 3: a focus here in the winter. I would remind you,

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Speaker 3: like we always talk about, it doesn't stop until the

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Speaker 3: front offices, good gms, they're constantly evaluating, constantly tweaking, constantly

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Speaker 3: churning to come up with that perfect mix or that

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Speaker 3: And that doesn't have to stop until until the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: And I expect Dave Debroski and his guys to continue

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Speaker 3: got to play good. But a lot of teams would

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams would like to have them, but

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Speaker 3: satisfied never until they have a parade, and if they

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Speaker 2: Talking about being satisfied, not satisfied. Yeah, you see the

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Speaker 2: But here's here's an interesting question. This is from Andy

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Speaker 3: Well, I think their ears are still wide open on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alec Bohm was mentioned in that question. Here's another

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Speaker 3: that's fine. He's got a bright future. He's going to

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Speaker 3: make a lot of money. Use all this as fuel,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally agree with that, Jim.

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Speaker 1: You're playing for all thirty teams. Everybody's watching.

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Speaker 4: And this guy is a very talented player who's improved

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta you're playing for big do man.

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Speaker 2: Two Scott Boris, guys, right there, Rubin, But tell me

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Speaker 2: What do you think might happen behind the scenes there?

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Speaker 1: And he doesn't necessarily have to put words in his mouth.

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Speaker 4: I think you just say, you know, if I'm Alec Bohm,

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Speaker 1: It's a business. It's part of the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean that it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 3: He'll do that. He'll also receive counsel from Scott Boris's team.

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Speaker 3: talking about, right.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Phillies will make any additions to

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Speaker 2: the bench or will they stick with stubs Slash, Marshan, Sosa, Wilson, Clemens,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. That's from Sean S on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think they're done. I mean, knowing what their salary

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Speaker 2: situation is or the payroll situation is, I do think

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Speaker 2: that they're done making additions to the bench. Now again,

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Speaker 2: you could maybe get somebody, maybe Mark Canna comes out

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Speaker 2: on a one year deal, in a really super super

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Speaker 2: affordable one year deal. Somebody like a right handed bat

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Speaker 2: off the bench that could maybe give you little bit

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Speaker 2: more production in the outfield. There's another question on here.

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Speaker 2: Somebody actually mentioned Jay Sequela on Blue Skyson. Am I crazy?

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Speaker 2: Would it make any sense to bring back Austin Hayes?

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Speaker 2: You know, so you never crazier things have happened, I suppose.

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Speaker 2: But right now, when you look at the bench, you

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Speaker 2: have stubbs In Marshan as a backup catcher. Marshawn is

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Speaker 2: out of options, so we we've all kind of said

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Speaker 2: that we think he's going to be the backup catcher

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Speaker 2: to open the season. You have Edmundo Sosa who's out

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Speaker 2: of options, and he's you know, he's your infield guy

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Speaker 2: to move around. You have Weston Wilson, who I think

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Speaker 2: they probably need is a right handed bat. They can

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Speaker 2: play left field. He does have options, so you want

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Speaker 2: to have some roster flexibility. And then that last spot.

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Speaker 2: You know you have Cody Clemens, you have Buddy Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: you know you have Cal Stevenson. All three of those

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Speaker 2: guys are out of options, you know, so maybe you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe one of them makes the team. Well one of

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Speaker 2: them would make the team if they don't make any additions.

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Speaker 2: But I tend to think they might just go internally.

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Speaker 2: I think Dave Dombrowski said something similar that they right

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Speaker 2: now they plan to go internal with what they have.

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Speaker 2: But again, like we've just said earlier at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show, you never know what can happen over

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Speaker 2: the next several weeks. Maybe somebody like we'd be friggin

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Speaker 2: nuts not to pay this guy two and a half

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Speaker 2: million dollars to come play for us. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a steal and and we're trying to win a

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Speaker 2: World Series and we can get depth.

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Speaker 3: How many times have we seen it? You know, you

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Speaker 3: show up in clear Water first week, first couple of

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Speaker 3: days of camp, and some guy walks through the door

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Speaker 3: that you weren't expecting to see on a minor league deal.

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Speaker 3: Who you know, I lingered out there and they bring

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Speaker 3: him in. And what it does is it gives him

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Speaker 3: a platform to show what he can do. Maybe he

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Speaker 3: shows enough to make your team, maybe he pushes the

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Speaker 3: existing guys. But the fact that Western Wilson has options,

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Speaker 3: you know, that makes you think, you know, they could

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Speaker 3: bring in another right and then they signed Kepler, left

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Speaker 3: handed bat. Western Wilson has options. Maybe they do bring

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Speaker 3: in a right handed bat to compete and push people

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And you know who I forgot. I forgot to mention

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Speaker 2: Johann Rojas. He has options and he could be the

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Speaker 2: fifth outfielder potentially as well. So I forgot to mention

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Speaker 2: Johann Rojas that will be in play for Ross.

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Speaker 3: I think right handed bat is the key.

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Speaker 2: Sure, one hundred yeah.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that right handed bat to to platoon

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Speaker 4: with Kepler. I do feel like if they're gonna that,

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Speaker 4: they will probably go internally with that decision. But you know,

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Speaker 4: the Mark Cannas of the world are still sitting out there,

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Speaker 4: and I like that like that bad a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He can like nout the lineup and give you some

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Speaker 4: decent bats against the LEFTI or what have you? Quality

501
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Speaker 4: at bats veteran been around a while, but you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that they really like guys like Cody Clemens

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Speaker 4: and Cody Clements. You know, he deserves it an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to to make this ball club because he makes the

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Speaker 4: team better. I think he's as a quality at bat

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Speaker 4: off the bench he's been, he hasn't really been a

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Speaker 4: liability defensively.

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Speaker 1: He can play first for the second he played third

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Speaker 1: not all that well.

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Speaker 4: He can play fine at first base, for instance, but

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Speaker 4: not not a super defender.

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Speaker 1: But he can hold his hold his own water, and

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Speaker 1: it gives you a quality at bat off the bench.

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Speaker 4: I mean, those aren't guys are are not necessarily gonna

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Speaker 4: make or break this team. That's something you probably would

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Speaker 4: address in July, but it is important to have some

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Speaker 4: depth in case people get that and go down.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of lineup questions, and we'll probably really

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Speaker 2: dig into the lineup in a later episode. But just

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Speaker 2: when will they move on from Schwarber batting leadoff? That's

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Speaker 2: from Fred l on Facebook. Would you consider Alec Bohm

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Speaker 2: in the leadoff spot? This is from Tom G eighteen

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Speaker 2: on Blue Sky take some pressure off him to be

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Speaker 2: a power hitter, and this is the lineup he throughout there, Boom, Harper, Turner, Schwarber,

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Speaker 2: Castiano Stott, and then JT. Kepler marsh any thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the lineup, but we've we've kind of touched on this.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about the lineup on previous episodes.

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Speaker 3: I think one or two episodes ago we really dug in.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the possibility of we all think this

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Speaker 3: is the year that Rob will make a change at leadoff.

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Speaker 3: I mean because he's talked about it. Because Schwarber improved

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Speaker 3: against lefties, maybe you put him in a four or

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Speaker 3: five hole where you can offer protection for Harper, so

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Speaker 3: and you know, could be started leadoff, could be Turner

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Speaker 3: at leadoff. We've talked about Harper as a leadoff man.

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Speaker 3: Rob Thompson's talked about all of the above as a

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Speaker 3: leadoff man at the winter meetings. So I think we're

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Speaker 3: all in agreement that this could be the year. There's

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Speaker 3: going to be some experimentation in spring training, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Schwarber is just simple improvement kind of as a hitter

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Speaker 3: last year. I think gives him some chance to put

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Speaker 3: Schwarber in the middle of the order. And and he's

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Speaker 3: been very specific in mentioning that he would. You know,

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Speaker 3: Rob has about protecting Harper with Schwarmer, so I don't

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Speaker 3: think he talked that way if you're not strongly considering it.

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Speaker 3: As for Boem, I just love his the way he

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Speaker 3: hasn't at bat with runners on base, I'd be a

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Speaker 3: little you know, he's really good with runners on base.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd want him more towards the middle.

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Speaker 4: I totally agree with that, Jim, and And really I

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Speaker 4: think it's about the development of Bryson Stott. Brys and

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Speaker 4: Stock can really become the player that he can become.

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Speaker 4: You know, Trey Turner's shown me that he's more of

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Speaker 4: a slasher.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to walk.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's not running as much as aggressively. Maybe

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Speaker 4: it's because he's running in front of Harper and that's

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Speaker 4: not something that is a distraction or what have you.

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Speaker 4: But that said, I really believe this is the year

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Speaker 4: that you may see a guy like Stott at the

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Speaker 4: top of the lineup. And I think it's really about

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Speaker 4: his development overall. I think he's a perfect candidate for it.

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Speaker 4: He's a pretty good two strike hitter, he sees pitches

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Speaker 4: pretty well, he can foul off pitches, he can stay

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Speaker 4: in the at bats. I think he's matured. I think

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Speaker 4: he's healthy now. He had the elbow issue. Hopefully he's

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Speaker 4: coming into spring training in a healthy mindset. And if

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Speaker 4: that's the case, I think he's sort of the ideal

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Speaker 4: guy to be placed in that position.

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Speaker 2: Dan oh on Facebook, who is the closer?

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Speaker 1: By committee?

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Speaker 2: By committee? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, I think Jordan Romano is going to get some looks.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, as I mentioned our previous episode, we did

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Speaker 3: our predictions for twenty twenty four, and we talked a

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Speaker 3: lot about leadoff hitter Rubin, talked a lot about the

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Speaker 3: potential stot being there. We talked a lot about the

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Speaker 3: potential shore we're coming out of there where he might go,

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Speaker 3: the reasons for it. We also talked about closer and

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Speaker 3: one of my off the wall predictions, I just like

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Speaker 3: the ascension of the improvement, say of Orion Kirkering, and

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Speaker 3: I could see him earning some reps in that role.

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Speaker 3: In one of my offbeat predictions, was he going to

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Speaker 3: get twenty two saves this year? So I still think

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Speaker 3: it'll be kind of committee ish. I think he kind

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Speaker 3: of really want to take a look at Romano there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if there's going to be much

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Speaker 3: holding back O'Ryan Kirkering. I'm just feeling like his time

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Speaker 3: is coming.

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Speaker 1: I like that breation.

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Speaker 2: That's a solid prediction, man.

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Speaker 1: That's a good call.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it all depends on Ryan Kirkering's command of

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Speaker 4: his fastball. If he can command, and he's also starting

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Speaker 4: to throw a sinker, so he's moved the baseball.

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Speaker 1: To the arm side a little bit.

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Speaker 4: If he continues to move that sinker or that runner

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Speaker 4: that two seamer in on right handers to sort of

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Speaker 4: set up that nasty slider he's got. I think that's

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Speaker 4: a really important part of his development, is command of

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Speaker 4: a spastball on the inside part of the plate, arm

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Speaker 4: side to right handers. If he can continue to improve

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Speaker 4: in that area, it makes his slider even more devastating weapon.

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Speaker 1: I truly believe that.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a big picture question. We'll do a couple

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Speaker 2: more here. This is from Paul Martini on YouTube. Considering

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Speaker 2: the provens the Mets made signing Sodo and the Braves

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Speaker 2: are turning into health, how real. Are the chances of

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Speaker 2: one big injury keeping the Phillies out of the postseason?

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Speaker 2: Do they have enough enough depth?

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Speaker 3: It's a big fear. It depends who that injury hits on,

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Speaker 3: and you don't even want to talk about it. They've

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Speaker 3: shown great resilience the last few years. They've lost Reel

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Speaker 3: Mudo for a stretch, They've lost Harper for a stretch.

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Speaker 3: They've played over those injuries.

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Speaker 1: They lost a Turner for a long time time last

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Speaker 1: week year, for.

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Speaker 3: A long time last year. I'm a believer that in

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Speaker 3: resilience and the next man up. Those are all nice things,

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Speaker 3: but there are limits you can't There's certain players you

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Speaker 3: cannot lose. They do have depth in the rotation, but

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Speaker 3: they don't have you know, one hundred number ones, So

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Speaker 3: it's about who you lose. They need to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: Right, you know? Big picture wise, though, where did the

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Speaker 2: Phillies rank with the Mets and the Braves? You know,

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Speaker 2: everybody looks at one so to go in the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Everybody talks about the Braves getting healthy, but they also

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Speaker 2: lost Max Freed that you know, Charlie Morton just signed

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Speaker 2: with the Orioles. You're looking at that rotation right now

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Speaker 2: doesn't look quite as formidable. You know, the Mets rotation.

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Speaker 2: You look at the Mets rotation and yeah, they handled

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Speaker 2: the Phillies last year in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But I like the.

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Speaker 2: Phillies of rotation a heck of a lot more than

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Speaker 2: I like the Mets rotation, and that's you can't discount that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they got one, So he is unbelievable. He's going to

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Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame probably unless something crazy happens.

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Speaker 2: But I know the Phillies on paper, I think go

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Speaker 2: into the season as Nly's favorites. You know, if you're

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Speaker 2: a Mets fan. Of course, if you're a Mets fan,

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Speaker 2: of course you're saying, we just handled the Phillies in

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Speaker 2: the postseason easily, we're going to win the division. I

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Speaker 2: get that. But on paper, if you pulled most personnel

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Speaker 2: people across Major League Baseball, say who's going to win

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Speaker 2: the Nleast? If you had to put one hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: on the line, they I think most people would say

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Phillies are going to win the Nleast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think I would agree with that because

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Speaker 4: I think of their rotation now and all, it kind

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Speaker 4: of depends for me. The Atlanta Braves as far as

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Speaker 4: their health, is it Whoon you're going to be back?

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Speaker 4: Is Strider going to be back? Strider is a huge

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Speaker 4: one for them. They had the one kid that came

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00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: up to the big leagues, the right hander. I can't

655
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Speaker 4: remember the bat right now. Yeah, I mean he was

656
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: really impressive. I mean, this is this kid's got a

657
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Speaker 4: chance to be at least a middle of rotation type guy.

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Speaker 4: But I still, on paper, I really like the Phillies

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Speaker 4: compared to the Atlanta Braves and the Mets. I think

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Speaker 4: that the Mets obviously have improved with Soto, but they

661
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: still need some protection in the lineup for Soto. And

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00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: I don't you know, they're they've brought Manaya back. But hey, listen,

663
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: their rotation is very it's it's decent, but it's not great.

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Speaker 4: They don't have a top of the rotation guy. It's

665
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 4: why you see so many rumors out there about them

666
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: trying to get that that number one or number two.

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00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 4: And you know, don't sleep on alex Anthopolis man looking

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00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 4: for another quality piece at the top of that rotation,

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Speaker 4: especially depending on what Stryder's situation.

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Speaker 1: As far as coming back.

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Speaker 3: I would pick the Phillies to win the division right now,

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00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: but you know, I also have They were a five

673
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: hundred team from June eleventh, yeah, through the final out

674
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Speaker 3: when they were eliminated from the postseason. In city field,

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Speaker 3: they're like fifty one and fifty one, And I think

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Speaker 3: the difference there is is obviously consistency. I'd like to

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Speaker 3: see a little more pedal to the metal throughout the sea.

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00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: I know you can't floor it every day, but it's baseball.

679
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: There's there's there is some pace involved, but there needs

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00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: to be more consistency in getting the job done throughout

681
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: the length of the season. And I really think more

682
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: consistency from from Turner on both sides of the ball,

683
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: improvement from stot it's really going to help your lineup.

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00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: It's really going to help you line up. And if

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00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: you get those things, I think you will see that

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00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: you have the potential to see that six month consistency

687
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: that they lacked last year. I mean, they banked all

688
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: those wins early and and kind of that was, you know,

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Speaker 3: what what got them into the postseason. I'd rather see

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Speaker 3: real consistent six month performance and if they get that

691
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: from the lineup and obviously stay healthy in the rotation bullpen.

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00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: I think they can take that personnel, which I think

693
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: is still probably you know, top to bottom, the best

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: in the division and cash it into a division title.

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: But you gotta perform, You gotta play good at the

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Speaker 3: right time.

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00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: Listen. I think about pitching all the time.

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00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: When you think about how how inconsistent they were at

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00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: the second half. I mean think about where Ranger Suarez

700
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: was first half versus second half. I mean totally different guy.

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00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: One he wasn't healthy, two wasn't pitching the same. And

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00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: so I think that the health of the rotation is

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: so important, and that's why Lozardo becomes such an important

704
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: piece of the puzzle because if a guy like that

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00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: goes down, if Chris Sanchez, or if Suarez goes down,

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00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 4: or even you know, god forbid Wheeler or Nola, they.

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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: Have some more depth there.

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00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: They don't have to necessarily rely on a guy like

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Speaker 4: Taiwan Walker to step in and try to eat up

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Speaker 4: at real innings when when they don't, when they can have.

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Speaker 1: A they have a guy like Bizardo.

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Speaker 2: There Susan V on Facebook, what's your favorite baseball movie?

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Speaker 3: Favorite baseball movie I like, like I like Eight Man Out.

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00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: I've always liked a good one. When that comes on,

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00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: I kind of watched that. I like that. I mean,

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00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm not really big on Bull Durham because, like, you know,

717
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: pitching in a garter that's just nice.

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00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wrankles you, Jim, Yes, you probably would, gas right.

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Speaker 3: Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Costner has made a lot of great movies.

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Speaker 4: The best baseball movie I think that he's made now.

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00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: I know, Field of Dreams is people people are in.

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Speaker 4: I love for the Love of the Game, man, I

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00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 4: love that movie. For the Love of the Game. There's

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00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: a lot of realism about, you know, somebody winding down

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: in their career and dealing with all the personal stuff

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00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: that has happened over his career. I think that's a

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00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: really cool one that resonated with me for some reason.

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Speaker 3: I actually liked the story. You know, I don't agree

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Speaker 3: with everything in Moneyball. They really don't talk about they

731
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: had three great pitchers. But I mean I like the

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00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 3: story in Moneyball. What's the jon Jonah Hill?

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Speaker 2: Jonah Hill, I think.

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Speaker 3: His performance is really good. Yeah, but I like the

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Speaker 3: story of Moneyball. I find myself watching that. I think

736
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Speaker 3: they stretched them some things here and there.

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00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: But right like what like when Billy Bean walks walks

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Speaker 2: into the Cleveland Indians front office, walks walks into Mark

739
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: Shapparel's office, it goes, let's make it trade. I'm like,

740
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: has that ever happened? At name million years?

741
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Speaker 3: I don't mean and asked Dombroski were in that movie?

742
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: He said, I want you to fill my my soda

743
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: machine for two years. Never that like that sounds like crazy, Yeah,

744
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: don't have soda and big really freaking about soda.

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00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: So here's my take on that movie. I think it

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00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: was an entertaining movie.

747
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the things that and the

748
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 4: reasons why the A's were so good was not because

749
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: of you know, Hadiberg. It was because they had three

750
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 4: cy Young Award candidates and two nl m B candidates

751
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: in Tahada and Chavis, and they had a great closure

752
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 4: that year. And so I mean it, that's the thing

753
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: that disappoints me the most. And in a lot of ways,

754
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: I think it's took baseball backwards because I think the

755
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: analytics piece of the game took over to the extent

756
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: where where now they're making rules to try to get

757
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: the game back to where.

758
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: It used to be. That's my take on it. In

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00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, in fifteen seconds.

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00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: Definitely some liberties with the facts of everything, but that's

761
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: that's a movie, right Like you guys, ever seen sixty

762
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: two with the Roger Morris movie was on HBO? I think, ye, yep,

763
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: And I always cringe when I watched that movie because

764
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: they make the reporters, I mean, I guess players might

765
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: disagree with this, but they make the reporters sound like

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00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: the biggest bunch of a holes ever. Was like, Roger Morris,

767
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 2: why do you suck so much? You know, the worst

768
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: human being on the face of the air. They all

769
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: talk like, you know, just just absolutely being horrifically brutal

770
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: to Roger Morris. I'm sure there were some kind questions

771
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: asked about the record along the way, but it was

772
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: like so over the top, you know, I'm going that's yeah,

773
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: Did Jackie Robinson movie was good? Forty two?

775
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Really good?

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00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Good? Really was. There's some great ones out there, there's

778
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: no question about Yeah.

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00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: Of course, for me, if anybody's been following me on

780
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: Twitter over the years, uh, for me, it's major league

781
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: because I was an extra in Major League. They filmed

782
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: that in Milwaukee at Old County Stadium where the Brewers

783
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: used to play, and my dad took me and my

784
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: brother down there once for an overnight shooting, like a

785
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: late night shooting. We were extras in the stands. And

786
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: then one other time my dad took me down because

787
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, we're living in Milwaukee, man, Hollywood ain't rolling

788
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: through Milwaukee very often. So it was a big deal

789
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and that movie to me

790
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: always hit some plus yeah Bob youuker, and there were

791
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: some of the all time greatest lines of any baseball movie.

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Speaker 3: I knew that.

793
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: You don't know I was an extra in that movie.

794
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Todd It's new.

795
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

797
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: So the scene where the manager tells Charlie Sheen he

798
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: is not going to start in the big game against

799
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: the Yankees, the bus rolls in and then the camera

800
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: pans down as the bus rolls in, and there's this

801
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: kid with huge glasses. You can barely see it, but

802
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm holding this huge sign that says Indian fever. And

803
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm holding the sign that says Indian fever. And when

804
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: I we took my family went to go see the movie,

805
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: like when it came out and I lost it in

806
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: the movie there. I'm like, damn, I'm on the screen

807
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: for like one one thousand. Before you can say two

808
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: one thousand, I'm off the screen. But I saw myself

809
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: because I knew what part of the movie I was in.

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00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: So for me, yeah, for me, Yeah, for me, it's

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Speaker 2: major league. Yeah yeah.

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00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: The one time, I also liked The Natural lot.

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00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: Natural, that's a great movie. And so Wilford Brimley is

815
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: the manager and he's got that voice. Yeah come on.

816
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: But one time, I'm in the Denver Airport, right and

817
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm at the baggage carousel waiting for my bag to

818
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: come around, and I hear this voice behind me, and

819
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I know that voice. And

820
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: this guy is he is ticked to the high heavens.

821
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 3: He is, you know, he's kind of griping about something.

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00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: I think there's some cussing going on. He's pissed, and

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00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, that sounds like Wilford Brimley. So I turn

824
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: around and it's Wilford Brimley looking like maybe he's with

825
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: his daughter or something, and he's he is, you know,

826
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: spitting vinegar. He's upset about something. With the airline. But

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00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: there's Wilford Brimley right behind me. There's the manager what

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00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: do they call him, Pop Pop? Yeah, you know, the

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00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: Natural and he's unhappy with the Denver Airport though. That's fine.

830
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: Watch when I watched that movie as a kid, I

831
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: thought he was like in his seventies, but he was

832
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: like forty eight when he filmed that movie. You know,

833
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: it's just funny looking on how people you know over time,

834
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: You're like, he looks like he's in gim and now

835
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: he's like in his late forties filmed when we filmed

836
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: The Natural. So that's some good stuff. We had a

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Speaker 2: lot more. Unfortunately we couldn't get to everything, but I

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Speaker 2: will be back later this week.

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Speaker 3: From getting to have another episode later this week and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let us Yeah, maybe we can get to get

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Speaker 2: to a few more lot of a lot of great questions.

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Speaker 2: So we really do appreciate everybody that sends us questions.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, enjoy the snow Day.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, well one month, one month pictures and catchers.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's getting caught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's getting really really close. Eagles Eagle super Bowl

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Speaker 2: run perhaps, Uh until then before the the myths start

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Speaker 2: to popping, right.

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Speaker 3: Jim, right mits of popping. Smell your Lada, boys night, Jim.

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