WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Backing Dak 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:16.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.439 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:31.640 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.520 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into Talking 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:41.400 Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Rob Phillips hosting for 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.760 Bill Jones, joined as always by Brian brought us Mickey 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.360 Spagnola with that hand up in the air. It's like 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.000 roll call in h yeah, in in great, He's gotta 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.920 figure it out. I'm here, I'm here here President Chicago Heights. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:59.560 That's right. Kim Garrison next door producing as always, and uh, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.720 you know we're onto Jacksonville, I think. Yeah. Cowboys back 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.800 to practice in a couple hours, getting set for Sunday's 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.959 home game against the Jags. And it's time for us 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.840 to start turning the page as well a little bit 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.600 we can continue talking. Are going to be different from 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.520 everybody else. Uh probably not, probably not completely one has 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.240 turned the page yet. Well, it's hard to turn the 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.760 page on It's Wednesday, right, it is Wednesday. You should 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.040 turn the page and Garrett's still getting roasted. Well, it's 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.960 a tough loss, Mick, and that was a tough call 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.120 to make. And we broke that one down pretty good. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.840 We got we got roasted, each roasted each other. Sure, sure, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.160 but that's you know, that's part of the fun of it. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.360 Everybody wants to have their say. Now that's true. Yeah, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.960 that's true, and that's what our society. Yes, and that's 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.000 what this show is for. Two you can you can 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.240 join us as well eight eight eight, five five two 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.280 two nine seven. Give us a call throughout the next 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.880 hour if you'd like. As I said, cowboys, get packed 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.160 to practice today here at the Star and let's just 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.720 lead it off, Mick. You got any any nugs, any 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.160 nug gets coming up with practice. It's a beautiful day. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.240 It is a beautiful day. The rats Hurricane Mike doesn't 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:13.640 seem to be moving this way. That's sure headed towards Florida. Okay, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.520 we got the weather report. Good there, that was my nugget. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.800 That was your negga for the day. You know, it'll 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.639 be interested to see how we how things play out 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.639 with the David Irvin situation. Yeah, will he be back 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.160 in action. Uh, you know, we'll see how that all 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.880 plays out. Hopefully he's got all his off the field 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.600 stuff with his family taken care of, and that the 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.720 Cowboys can now focus in on having him play really 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.280 the next ten weeks. You know, I mean it, you 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.960 had to endure a suspension, you did that. Uh. You know, 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.880 this guy is an incredible player. And I think one day, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.760 when Mickey Spagnola writes a book about all this, one 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.480 of these chapters will be about players that had this 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.920 tremendous potential and you only saw him for only just 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.400 a bit of a glimpse of you know, and I 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.800 think David Irvan is one of those guys. This team 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.640 has a great history of players that have come through 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.360 and then you wonder why what happened? How did that? 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.760 How did that happen? And uh, you know, the David 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.000 Irvan in a contract situation, don't kind of feel don't 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.440 really feel like that when we get the offseason talk 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.440 that David Irvin is going to be in the mix 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.799 for hey have to have this guy, So can you 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.280 capture something from him in you know, in ten games basically? 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.160 You know, So that's always an interesting angle to me. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.760 I'm interested about Malie Collins coming back. Want to see 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.720 what's going to happen with that defensive tackle rotation if 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.520 he could get back to it, because I talked about 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.880 it yesterday. Really felt like that the defensive tackles being 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.880 under manned played very well in that football game against 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.320 the Texans. They're gonna have some decisions they're gonna have 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.119 to make about that. And you know, will we now 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.040 start to see Bryce Butler. I know I'll call for this. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.600 I'll call for somebody that can extend. I will call 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.960 for somebody that's a big body that will go get 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.120 the football. I might have to live with all the 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.720 knucklehead plays that you might get from him or things 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.080 that happen in the game, but give me an opportunity 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.120 to get a guy that and I when we get 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.880 into the Jaguars, I believe I'm gonna tell you about 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.280 that this secondary is one of the best you're gonna 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.680 play and they're gonna they're gonna contest every ball you throw, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.360 and so you need people that are going to be 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.280 able to extend, have guys on their backs, but make plays. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.919 And that's what's gonna be one of those keys for 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.080 this football game. I've called for that too on Monday. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.880 I mean, I'm also the guy. I'm not saying he's 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.320 the savior, right, I'm just saying maybe something a little different. Yeah, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.479 And I'm also the guy that said been saying for 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.440 weeks I think a couple of us have, you know, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.719 pare down this rotation. Well, maybe it's time to look 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.120 at something different too. And he's a guy that has 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:53.040 made plays, not always consistently. That's a big that's a big, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.280 big question question, and that's and that's consistency. He's been 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.720 a part of this offense that they have to find. Yeah, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.480 but he's a big white out three be the biggest 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.640 receiver they have on the team. That's another option. That's 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.360 a guy that Dak has played with and has had 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.560 success with. That's one option. But again, I mean, you 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.320 go back and watch the game the other night, it's 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.479 kind of like the other two road losses. You can't 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.360 look at the receivers and say, oh, it's all their 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.360 fault or not. It's been a it's absolutely like a 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.960 but it's been everything at some point in time during 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.400 out during one of these losses. Yeah, yeah, you know, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.560 they almost paired it down with the wide receivers. This 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.960 last game. I was a little surprised when I saw this. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.359 The majority of the snaps went to Gallop in Hearns. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:39.280 Gallop had forty snaps, Hearns had forty seven, Beasley had 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:44.760 thirty eight, and Thompson was down to twenty nine and 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:51.039 Tavon Austin had seven. I'm sorry that was the Detroit game. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:56.560 Let me go back. Hearns had thirty eight snaps, Thompson 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:03.320 thirty six, Butler had one snap. That was the Hail Mary. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.320 At the end, Gallop only had twenty, so he went 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:11.400 from forty snaps against Detroit to twenty four. Yeah he's 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.920 got a play. Yeah, you're here for more Bryce Butler, 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.960 Mick No, he's here from Okay, he's here for more Gallop. Which, yeah, 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.040 you're run on Gap, get me gallup, Herns and and Beasley. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.400 I think you just get him out there. Yeah. I 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.440 think you see Herns a lot more because they use 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:31.120 him in twelve personnel stuff too, used Terrence Williams role. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.599 So you know, if I'm with Mickey on on on Gallop, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.360 you know I'm the selfish side of me wants to 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.560 see him succeed. I mean, I just want to give 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:46.440 Dak Prescott the best opportunity he can to have some success. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.120 I think that we've I think people out there have 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.359 been overly critical of Dak Prescott, you know, and I 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.400 you know, I maybe it's the people that were laying 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.480 in the weeds, you know, that had to bite their 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.760 tongues a little bit when he came on the scene 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.200 and beloved Tony Romo. And again, I'm not making fun 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.320 of Tony Romo. I'm just saying though there was a 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.240 change there. The organization made a change. They moved on 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.480 from Tony. But you know, I think you have to 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.040 give this quarterback every opportunity that you can for him 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.280 to succeed. It starts with protection, it starts with a 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.040 running game, and it really starts with you know what 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.320 they're able to do passing the game on the outside. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.520 If he throws a ball that's a tight window throw, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.520 these guys have got to come up with it for 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:29.760 you know, and they're not going to come up with 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.760 all of them because these defensive backs are good in 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.440 this league. And again you're about to play a group 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.200 that's really good in the secondary. So anything that you 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.480 can do to help him along the way it just 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.840 feel it's unfortunate that the you know, I watched those 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.880 press conferences every after every game, and there's only one 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.520 man that stands up there and takes all the arrows, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.200 you know, and and he stands there and then he 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.040 walks off, and he thanks everybody, and he moves on 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.680 and he tries to, you know, pull things together. But 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.960 that's the responsibility of the quarterback here. I just don't 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.680 think his fans and his writers were really fair to 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.000 him as much as we need to be. You came 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.760 in here passionate about that this mon I am. I mean, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.040 I'm tired. I'm tired of I'm tired of fans not 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:17.280 believing that if you that he is not Brady, he 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.360 is not Manning, He's not these guys the past. He's 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.640 not one of those guys. But if you, if you, 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.000 I would challenge I would challenge any other quarterback other 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.840 than those guys I mentioned to come in or and 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.640 have success with some of the things that are currently 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.520 happening to this offense. I was asked the other day, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.000 who do you think is a better quarterback, Blake Bortles 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.840 or or Dak Prescott. I think Dak Prescott could actually 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.160 succeed in what's going on in in Jacksonville as a 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.560 opposed of Blake Bortles coming in here and having success. So, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.920 I mean, I'm I'm a little I'm a little bit 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.960 tired of the narrative that people are just totally blaming 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.040 him for everything and calling him, you know, you know, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.240 a bag of you know what I just am. I 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.319 just feel like though that you know, there are some 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.320 things that he has, there's some things that he is 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.000 not good at. It's absolutely the truth, but they're things. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.880 I mean, he laid it out on the line for 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.840 you last week. He did he did everything he could 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.400 to try and win that football game. Spinning out of pressure, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.000 what doing I mean, Yeah, he is not a perfect quarterback, 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.000 but you know what, if given the opportunity and given 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.040 the weapons around him and giving him the level of play. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.840 You know, we talk about this offensive line, hang your 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.440 hat on it, it hadn't been a hang your hat 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.760 on an offensive line, Ezeki Olio. The running game got 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.079 shot down last week. You know that's something that can't 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.760 happen when you're a run heavy based team. You know, 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.319 I wrote about it yesterday. I asked, I asked Jason 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.920 Garrett about it. He pointed out the stat unsolicited. Zeke 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.440 had twenty carries in the game, and nine of them 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.960 went for zero or minus. It goes to Mickey's point, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:57.520 but he tried to make the other day and he 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.240 was getting hit in the backfield like he did on 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.120 third and one one, the big the you know, the 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.600 big third and one in question. And then he Garrett 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.240 also point out, and he's not putting all the blame 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.200 on the offensive line, but he said, the three worst 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.160 games we played up front have been on the road. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.640 Communication factors have been a problem. Yeah, And and you know, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.160 and Garrett will point out it's on coaches, it's on players, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.520 on everybody offensively, right, But you do have to look 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.439 up front because I'm the one that said in July, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.680 they're gonna make the playoffs because they drafted Connor Williams. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.280 They're they're healthy, they're gonna get the development of Lyle 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.439 Collins explaining right tackle. They're gonna saw in Oakland him 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.320 blocking Khalil Mack. Yeah, they're gonna get back to doing 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.480 what they do best. Yeah, and we saw it against 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.320 Detroit and a little against the Giants, but we haven't 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.560 seen it consistently, certainly not. They're two and three. So 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:51.600 the new darling quarterback in the league is who Baker Mayfield? 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:56.760 Pat mahomes at homes Yeah, watching that film, yes, sir, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:01.520 Kansas City. By the way, Mayfield Good Mayfield and UH 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.240 and Dak have the exact same quarterback rating. But which which, guys? 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.480 Everybody you know, the favorite? So let's see. But there's 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.760 there's no I think the expectations the bar is a 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.720 little lower. Yeah, we're talking to first pick in the draft. No, No, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.319 you're right, right, right, you're right right, you're right. But 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:25.559 any anything in Cleveland is it's great. There's still whole Cleveland, 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.880 it's the whole country. Baker Mayfield's the new you know, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.760 the new flavor of the year. He's Johnny without all 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.560 the baggage, and honestly, you know, and it looks like 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.040 he's played well. But his quarterback rating is eighty one 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:41.960 point four, right, exactly the same as Dak. So I 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.000 don't know if anybody's making excuses for him. He's only 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:49.080 got three touchdown passes, he has three interception, Dak has five. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.640 He's got four deflected passes for interceptions. Yeah, so I 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.600 just think we and I appreciate your point, man, here's 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:02.200 my My other point is that no one changes their 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.719 minds on quarterbacks unless they win a Super Bowl. It's 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.800 like the people that didn't like Tony Romo continued to 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.520 dislike Tony Romo even though he rewrote the record book 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.640 for quarterbacks for the Dallas Cowboys, which has two in 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.280 the Pro Football Hall of Fame. No one changes their minds. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.880 So the people that were not in favor of Dak 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.520 taken over for Tony now feel like they have a 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.480 platform to get louder and louder and louder because things 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.080 aren't going as well as they did in twenty sixteen 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:39.120 and the first eight games of twenty seventeen. And my opinion, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.679 and you've guys have heard me say this about quarterbacks. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.760 Quarterbacks are like presidents. No one changes their mind on 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.680 who they liked and who they didn't unless the guy 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.040 does something to get impeached. They will defend him to 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.240 the end of the earth, no matter what's happening. And 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.680 it's the same thing with quarterbacks. I kind of agree 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.560 with that. I mean, I'm seeing I do the mail 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.880 bag every morning, and quite frankly, on weeks like this, 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.120 it scares me to open it up better you than me, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.000 and I did it for ten years. I'm getting yeah, 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:15.760 mixed mails, bad idea that those were rough at times. Um, 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.080 I get a lot of messages for you know, Brian 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.560 and I to answer in the morning that fans that say, look, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.439 I love Dak as a leader. He's got a lot 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.720 of great intangibles. He does a lot of things well 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.560 on the field. But you know, there's limitations and there's 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.680 also I think general just dissatisfaction with the offense in general, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.160 and it goes to the coaching staff and then the quarterbacks, 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.480 the guy that has the ball in his hands every time. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.360 And so I get the overall frustration. But if you 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.520 go back and watch this game last Sunday, Dak Prescott 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.880 was not the main issue here. No, he was. He 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.400 was running for his life a lot. Uh. He had 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.600 to make a lot of throws where he really wasn't set. Um, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.040 it wasn't perfect by him. He's miss throws. You know, Aikman, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.560 I trust Troy Aikman's opinion on quarterback play much as anybody. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.320 He talked about accuracy, anticipation right the other day on 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.040 local radio, Dax's got to get better in those areas. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.840 He knows that, right, But he's proven that if he 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.880 has help, he can win games in this league. And 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.160 I don't know what what's wrong with saying that a 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.400 quarterback needs help. Yeah, because you you listed Brian like 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.360 three or four guys that are probably all going to 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.880 the Pro Football Hall of Fame one day. Sure, maybe 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.400 they can get it done without a lot of help, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.480 but ninety percent of the quarterbacks in this league need 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.200 a nice cast around them. There's nothing wrong with that. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.000 You would be hard pressed, like I said, to put 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.400 other quarterbacks in this in this offense what's going on 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.360 right now and have success. He really would just with 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.640 you know, the inconsistencies with the line and what they've had, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.840 you know, I think I think that's been the biggest 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:51.240 the the I wasn't shocked about the committee part of it, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.520 because I think we've discussed about having that guy you 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.040 can hang your hat on. I think the biggest shock 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.760 to me has been that that the offensive line has 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.640 not The bar is so high for those guys. You know, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.760 when when Tyron Smith just plays well, you know that 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.640 that would be you know, they would kill to have 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.880 Tyron Smith in a New York. The Giants, they would 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.560 kill to have him just playing at the level he's 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.560 playing right now. They just cut one of their tackles, 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.040 they fire their starter exactly. That's what I'm saying this. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.240 You You sometimes you get to a level with with 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.120 these players, what we've seen with the line, and you're 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.680 just so used to such a high level of play, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.920 and then things don't work out, and people like, should 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.400 we worried about Smith? I go, We've talked about this 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.040 really all year. This is not something new, but the 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.680 bar is so high, and maybe the bar is so 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.800 high for Dak and what he did for his rookie season, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.040 you know, offensive rookie of the Year, winning thirteen games, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.040 going toe to toe twice in the season with h 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.280 with Aaron Rodgers, winning a game in Hines Field, winning 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.440 a game at lambeau Field in Kansas City. Yeah, beating 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.920 Kansas City, I mean last year. Yeah, there's there's things 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.480 about this guy, and you're right, I think both you're 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.400 right if you find ways to help him, you know, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.800 And it's I don't want to say it's just as 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.360 easy as to say play to his strengths, but these 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.280 quarterbacks do need help. There are very few that are rare. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.920 Aaron Rodgers looks like to me, he doesn't need a 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.600 whole lot of help. He hasn't had a lot of 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.280 help front for a couple of years. That's a rare 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.920 football players. And he's gotten injured because of it too. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.360 He has gotten hurt because of that. Yeah, absolutely right. 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.520 So you know to me to say to sit there 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.720 and wonder why there's so much hate for dak if you, 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.800 if you you should try and understand what his limitations are, 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.680 not attack him as the player. You should say, Okay, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.880 the anticipation needs to be better, right, you know, the 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.320 the accuracy needs to be better. You know, look at 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:52.760 the Look at the difference with and blank Bordles playing 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.680 with Leonard Fournette yea and without four net absolutely just 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.680 go look at it. And their defense has played well 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.960 except for this last game. He doesn't have a running game. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.400 The Cowboys will not win if Zeke finishes a game 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.679 with fifty four yards. That's that's that's just He's absolutely right, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.119 write it down. Yeah, and this team is built to 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.679 do that, right, that's what that's the problem. And if 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.480 you're saying, okay, yeah, we have to sling this thing around. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.400 Mickey's right, you're gonna take an l you know, bortles 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.440 through the ball sixty one times against Kansas City. That's 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.159 a problem. He's the reason why you might have a 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.120 chance in this game, you know, and the rough games 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.080 and people, and that was a first overall pick. Yep, 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.679 you know that. And you think about that that that 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.440 top top three, right is the top three number one 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.040 was right there? Three? Okay, you're right, yeah, I mean 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.000 he but that was a top pick, right though, doubt 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.320 so to me. You know, look for answers, but don't 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.760 don't have to say, oh, it's this, it's this, it's 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.920 this guy. You know. Yeah, the pitchforks come out after 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.000 a loss, the pitchfork. A lot of kids are looking 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.040 for one guy to blame, and a lot of times, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.479 as Garrett, and sometimes I feel like I feel like 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.440 it's the folks that were waiting in the weeds after 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.879 a Romo that they had to kind of go away 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.600 because Dak was having some success now all of a sudden, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:19.280 it's rest revisionist history, you know. And trust me, I 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:21.920 always say this. I was on the staff that brought 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:26.960 Tony Romo here. I thank you know, jim Hess Jim Garrett, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.600 Sean Payton, Bill Parcels, thank you guys for what you 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.080 did to bring as Tony Romo. You guys deserve a 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.159 lot of credit for that. But you you've got to 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.520 move on. You've got to move on from this and 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.760 trying to bring back you know, trying to bring him 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.400 back is not going to fix your problems for today, right. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.840 You know, the general manager needs to look at himself 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.040 and say, Okay, have I helped this head coach? Have 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.520 I helped this head coach with enough to win? You know, 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.320 obviously he feels like he has because he said, well, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.000 I see DAK being a long term in his mind, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.280 Jerry said. Yesterday he said, Jerry said he felt like 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.800 the DAK right or wrong. That's the general managers the thought. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.600 So we'll see. But you know, as a general manager, 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.560 he also needs to think about did I make the 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.880 right decision at receiver? Did did we adequately staff? What's 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.159 going on at at at tight end? And it's my 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.400 offensive line really playing to the level that I thought 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.320 they would see and I and I'm tired of hearing, 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.640 especially on not going for fourth and one. You've got 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.880 the best offensive line in the NFL. And you don't 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.399 want to run behind him. Well, let's can that for 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.680 a while, okay, because it's not the best offensive line 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.280 in the National Football League. You don't want to not 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:46.480 playing to that level right now? Yeah, And that's fair, 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.919 you know. And and God bless Joe Looney, he's not 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.479 Travis Frederick. He is not Sorry, he's playing well for 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.960 Joe Looney. Yeah, but he's not Travis Frederick. And you 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.840 only have two guys out there right now that are 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.360 Pro Bowlers. You don't have three. And and Lele Collins 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.960 was not playing to the level that he was at 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.240 the end of last year. So you know this idea 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.640 that well, that's your bread and butter, this offensive line. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.040 Watch the game, yeah, watch it. Just trying to figure 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.040 out You got to try and figure out what what 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.920 clues you have. You have to try and figure things out. Sure, 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.840 and you know, I'm not I don't think any of 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.040 us here in this room right now or are giving 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:32.080 the quarterback a pass. But I'm all we get accused 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.520 of that, by the way, And I think that's that's 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.320 what upsets me is I don't mind. I don't mind 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.199 answering folks questions. I really don't that's my job. But 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.480 also I ask you just to give it some thought. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.920 Give it some thought. If you feel like, hey, that 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.160 that's the only avenue, then I can't help you. I'm sorry. 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.920 Mickey's right, you voted for a president. I can't change 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.160 your mind. And in some degree they went the route 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.159 they did at wide receiver. And I think even Stephen 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.000 Jones said this on the fan this week. It's like, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.320 we're into the season now, Yeah, it is what it is. 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:02.800 We're gonna try to do the best of what we 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.240 can right with it. They're not saying they made a mistake, 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.880 but that's where they are. And it's not one fix. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.480 And that's a problem when it's not just one thing 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.879 with an offense, you know, the dealing with right now, 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.679 Look what this team did last last year during the 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.159 off season, they went out and they realized that Mickey 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.560