1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into Talking 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Rob Phillips hosting for 7 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Bill Jones, joined as always by Brian brought us Mickey 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Spagnola with that hand up in the air. It's like 9 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: roll call in h yeah, in in great, He's gotta 10 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: figure it out. I'm here, I'm here here President Chicago Heights. 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: That's right. Kim Garrison next door producing as always, and uh, 12 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: you know we're onto Jacksonville, I think. Yeah. Cowboys back 13 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: to practice in a couple hours, getting set for Sunday's 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: home game against the Jags. And it's time for us 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: to start turning the page as well a little bit 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: we can continue talking. Are going to be different from 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: everybody else. Uh probably not, probably not completely one has 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: turned the page yet. Well, it's hard to turn the 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: page on It's Wednesday, right, it is Wednesday. You should 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: turn the page and Garrett's still getting roasted. Well, it's 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: a tough loss, Mick, and that was a tough call 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: to make. And we broke that one down pretty good. 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: We got we got roasted, each roasted each other. Sure, sure, 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: but that's you know, that's part of the fun of it. 25 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to have their say. Now that's true. Yeah, 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: that's true, and that's what our society. Yes, and that's 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: what this show is for. Two you can you can 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: join us as well eight eight eight, five five two 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: two nine seven. Give us a call throughout the next 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: hour if you'd like. As I said, cowboys, get packed 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: to practice today here at the Star and let's just 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: lead it off, Mick. You got any any nugs, any 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: nug gets coming up with practice. It's a beautiful day. 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: It is a beautiful day. The rats Hurricane Mike doesn't 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: seem to be moving this way. That's sure headed towards Florida. Okay, 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: we got the weather report. Good there, that was my nugget. 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: That was your negga for the day. You know, it'll 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: be interested to see how we how things play out 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: with the David Irvin situation. Yeah, will he be back 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: in action. Uh, you know, we'll see how that all 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: plays out. Hopefully he's got all his off the field 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: stuff with his family taken care of, and that the 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys can now focus in on having him play really 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: the next ten weeks. You know, I mean it, you 45 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: had to endure a suspension, you did that. Uh. You know, 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: this guy is an incredible player. And I think one day, 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: when Mickey Spagnola writes a book about all this, one 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: of these chapters will be about players that had this 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: tremendous potential and you only saw him for only just 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: a bit of a glimpse of you know, and I 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: think David Irvan is one of those guys. This team 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: has a great history of players that have come through 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: and then you wonder why what happened? How did that? 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: How did that happen? And uh, you know, the David 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Irvan in a contract situation, don't kind of feel don't 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: really feel like that when we get the offseason talk 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: that David Irvin is going to be in the mix 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: for hey have to have this guy, So can you 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: capture something from him in you know, in ten games basically? 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: You know, So that's always an interesting angle to me. 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm interested about Malie Collins coming back. Want to see 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with that defensive tackle rotation if 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: he could get back to it, because I talked about 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: it yesterday. Really felt like that the defensive tackles being 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: under manned played very well in that football game against 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: the Texans. They're gonna have some decisions they're gonna have 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: to make about that. And you know, will we now 68 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: start to see Bryce Butler. I know I'll call for this. 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: I'll call for somebody that can extend. I will call 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: for somebody that's a big body that will go get 71 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: the football. I might have to live with all the 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: knucklehead plays that you might get from him or things 73 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: that happen in the game, but give me an opportunity 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: to get a guy that and I when we get 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: into the Jaguars, I believe I'm gonna tell you about 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: that this secondary is one of the best you're gonna 77 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: play and they're gonna they're gonna contest every ball you throw, 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: and so you need people that are going to be 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: able to extend, have guys on their backs, but make plays. 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: And that's what's gonna be one of those keys for 81 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: this football game. I've called for that too on Monday. 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm also the guy. I'm not saying he's 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: the savior, right, I'm just saying maybe something a little different. Yeah, 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: And I'm also the guy that said been saying for 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: weeks I think a couple of us have, you know, 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: pare down this rotation. Well, maybe it's time to look 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: at something different too. And he's a guy that has 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: made plays, not always consistently. That's a big that's a big, 89 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: big question question, and that's and that's consistency. He's been 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: a part of this offense that they have to find. Yeah, 91 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: but he's a big white out three be the biggest 92 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: receiver they have on the team. That's another option. That's 93 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: a guy that Dak has played with and has had 94 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: success with. That's one option. But again, I mean, you 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: go back and watch the game the other night, it's 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: kind of like the other two road losses. You can't 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: look at the receivers and say, oh, it's all their 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: fault or not. It's been a it's absolutely like a 99 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: but it's been everything at some point in time during 100 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: out during one of these losses. Yeah, yeah, you know, 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: they almost paired it down with the wide receivers. This 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: last game. I was a little surprised when I saw this. 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: The majority of the snaps went to Gallop in Hearns. 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: Gallop had forty snaps, Hearns had forty seven, Beasley had 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: thirty eight, and Thompson was down to twenty nine and 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin had seven. I'm sorry that was the Detroit game. 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Let me go back. Hearns had thirty eight snaps, Thompson 108 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: thirty six, Butler had one snap. That was the Hail Mary. 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: At the end, Gallop only had twenty, so he went 110 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: from forty snaps against Detroit to twenty four. Yeah he's 111 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: got a play. Yeah, you're here for more Bryce Butler, 112 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Mick No, he's here from Okay, he's here for more Gallop. Which, yeah, 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: you're run on Gap, get me gallup, Herns and and Beasley. 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I think you just get him out there. Yeah. I 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: think you see Herns a lot more because they use 116 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: him in twelve personnel stuff too, used Terrence Williams role. 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: So you know, if I'm with Mickey on on on Gallop, 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: you know I'm the selfish side of me wants to 119 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: see him succeed. I mean, I just want to give 120 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott the best opportunity he can to have some success. 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I think that we've I think people out there have 122 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: been overly critical of Dak Prescott, you know, and I 123 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, I maybe it's the people that were laying 124 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: in the weeds, you know, that had to bite their 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: tongues a little bit when he came on the scene 126 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: and beloved Tony Romo. And again, I'm not making fun 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: of Tony Romo. I'm just saying though there was a 128 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: change there. The organization made a change. They moved on 129 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: from Tony. But you know, I think you have to 130 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: give this quarterback every opportunity that you can for him 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: to succeed. It starts with protection, it starts with a 132 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: running game, and it really starts with you know what 133 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: they're able to do passing the game on the outside. 134 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: If he throws a ball that's a tight window throw, 135 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: these guys have got to come up with it for 136 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, and they're not going to come up with 137 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: all of them because these defensive backs are good in 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: this league. And again you're about to play a group 139 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: that's really good in the secondary. So anything that you 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: can do to help him along the way it just 141 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: feel it's unfortunate that the you know, I watched those 142 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: press conferences every after every game, and there's only one 143 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: man that stands up there and takes all the arrows, 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, and and he stands there and then he 145 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: walks off, and he thanks everybody, and he moves on 146 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: and he tries to, you know, pull things together. But 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: that's the responsibility of the quarterback here. I just don't 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: think his fans and his writers were really fair to 149 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: him as much as we need to be. You came 150 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: in here passionate about that this mon I am. I mean, 151 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I'm tired of I'm tired of fans not 152 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: believing that if you that he is not Brady, he 153 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: is not Manning, He's not these guys the past. He's 154 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: not one of those guys. But if you, if you, 155 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I would challenge I would challenge any other quarterback other 156 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: than those guys I mentioned to come in or and 157 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: have success with some of the things that are currently 158 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: happening to this offense. I was asked the other day, 159 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: who do you think is a better quarterback, Blake Bortles 160 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: or or Dak Prescott. I think Dak Prescott could actually 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: succeed in what's going on in in Jacksonville as a 162 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: opposed of Blake Bortles coming in here and having success. So, 163 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm a little I'm a little bit 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: tired of the narrative that people are just totally blaming 165 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: him for everything and calling him, you know, you know, 166 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: a bag of you know what I just am. I 167 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: just feel like though that you know, there are some 168 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: things that he has, there's some things that he is 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: not good at. It's absolutely the truth, but they're things. 170 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he laid it out on the line for 171 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: you last week. He did he did everything he could 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: to try and win that football game. Spinning out of pressure, 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: what doing I mean, Yeah, he is not a perfect quarterback, 174 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: but you know what, if given the opportunity and given 175 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the weapons around him and giving him the level of play. 176 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about this offensive line, hang your 177 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: hat on it, it hadn't been a hang your hat 178 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: on an offensive line, Ezeki Olio. The running game got 179 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: shot down last week. You know that's something that can't 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: happen when you're a run heavy based team. You know, 181 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: I wrote about it yesterday. I asked, I asked Jason 182 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: Garrett about it. He pointed out the stat unsolicited. Zeke 183 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: had twenty carries in the game, and nine of them 184 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: went for zero or minus. It goes to Mickey's point, 185 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: but he tried to make the other day and he 186 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: was getting hit in the backfield like he did on 187 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: third and one one, the big the you know, the 188 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: big third and one in question. And then he Garrett 189 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: also point out, and he's not putting all the blame 190 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, but he said, the three worst 191 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: games we played up front have been on the road. 192 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Communication factors have been a problem. Yeah, And and you know, 193 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: and Garrett will point out it's on coaches, it's on players, 194 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: on everybody offensively, right, But you do have to look 195 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: up front because I'm the one that said in July, 196 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna make the playoffs because they drafted Connor Williams. 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: They're they're healthy, they're gonna get the development of Lyle 198 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: Collins explaining right tackle. They're gonna saw in Oakland him 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: blocking Khalil Mack. Yeah, they're gonna get back to doing 200 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: what they do best. Yeah, and we saw it against 201 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Detroit and a little against the Giants, but we haven't 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: seen it consistently, certainly not. They're two and three. So 203 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: the new darling quarterback in the league is who Baker Mayfield? 204 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Pat mahomes at homes Yeah, watching that film, yes, sir, 205 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City. By the way, Mayfield Good Mayfield and UH 206 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: and Dak have the exact same quarterback rating. But which which, guys? 207 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Everybody you know, the favorite? So let's see. But there's 208 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: there's no I think the expectations the bar is a 209 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: little lower. Yeah, we're talking to first pick in the draft. No, No, 210 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: you're right, right, right, you're right right, you're right. But 211 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: any anything in Cleveland is it's great. There's still whole Cleveland, 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: it's the whole country. Baker Mayfield's the new you know, 213 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: the new flavor of the year. He's Johnny without all 214 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: the baggage, and honestly, you know, and it looks like 215 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: he's played well. But his quarterback rating is eighty one 216 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: point four, right, exactly the same as Dak. So I 217 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's making excuses for him. He's only 218 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: got three touchdown passes, he has three interception, Dak has five. 219 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: He's got four deflected passes for interceptions. Yeah, so I 220 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: just think we and I appreciate your point, man, here's 221 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: my My other point is that no one changes their 222 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: minds on quarterbacks unless they win a Super Bowl. It's 223 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: like the people that didn't like Tony Romo continued to 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: dislike Tony Romo even though he rewrote the record book 225 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks for the Dallas Cowboys, which has two in 226 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. No one changes their minds. 227 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: So the people that were not in favor of Dak 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: taken over for Tony now feel like they have a 229 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: platform to get louder and louder and louder because things 230 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: aren't going as well as they did in twenty sixteen 231 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: and the first eight games of twenty seventeen. And my opinion, 232 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: and you've guys have heard me say this about quarterbacks. 233 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are like presidents. No one changes their mind on 234 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: who they liked and who they didn't unless the guy 235 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: does something to get impeached. They will defend him to 236 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: the end of the earth, no matter what's happening. And 237 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: it's the same thing with quarterbacks. I kind of agree 238 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, I'm seeing I do the mail 239 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: bag every morning, and quite frankly, on weeks like this, 240 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: it scares me to open it up better you than me, 241 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and I did it for ten years. I'm getting yeah, 242 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: mixed mails, bad idea that those were rough at times. Um, 243 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: I get a lot of messages for you know, Brian 244 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: and I to answer in the morning that fans that say, look, 245 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: I love Dak as a leader. He's got a lot 246 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: of great intangibles. He does a lot of things well 247 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: on the field. But you know, there's limitations and there's 248 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: also I think general just dissatisfaction with the offense in general, 249 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: and it goes to the coaching staff and then the quarterbacks, 250 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: the guy that has the ball in his hands every time. 251 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: And so I get the overall frustration. But if you 252 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: go back and watch this game last Sunday, Dak Prescott 253 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: was not the main issue here. No, he was. He 254 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: was running for his life a lot. Uh. He had 255 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: to make a lot of throws where he really wasn't set. Um, 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect by him. He's miss throws. You know, Aikman, 257 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: I trust Troy Aikman's opinion on quarterback play much as anybody. 258 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: He talked about accuracy, anticipation right the other day on 259 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: local radio, Dax's got to get better in those areas. 260 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: He knows that, right, But he's proven that if he 261 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: has help, he can win games in this league. And 262 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what what's wrong with saying that a 263 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: quarterback needs help. Yeah, because you you listed Brian like 264 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: three or four guys that are probably all going to 265 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame one day. Sure, maybe 266 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: they can get it done without a lot of help, 267 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: but ninety percent of the quarterbacks in this league need 268 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: a nice cast around them. There's nothing wrong with that. 269 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: You would be hard pressed, like I said, to put 270 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in this in this offense what's going on 271 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: right now and have success. He really would just with 272 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, the inconsistencies with the line and what they've had, 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that's been the biggest 274 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the the I wasn't shocked about the committee part of it, 275 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: because I think we've discussed about having that guy you 276 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: can hang your hat on. I think the biggest shock 277 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: to me has been that that the offensive line has 278 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: not The bar is so high for those guys. You know, 279 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: when when Tyron Smith just plays well, you know that 280 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: that would be you know, they would kill to have 281 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith in a New York. The Giants, they would 282 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: kill to have him just playing at the level he's 283 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: playing right now. They just cut one of their tackles, 284 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: they fire their starter exactly. That's what I'm saying this. 285 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: You You sometimes you get to a level with with 286 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: these players, what we've seen with the line, and you're 287 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: just so used to such a high level of play, 288 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: and then things don't work out, and people like, should 289 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: we worried about Smith? I go, We've talked about this 290 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: really all year. This is not something new, but the 291 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: bar is so high, and maybe the bar is so 292 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: high for Dak and what he did for his rookie season, 293 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, offensive rookie of the Year, winning thirteen games, 294 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: going toe to toe twice in the season with h 295 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, winning a game in Hines Field, winning 296 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: a game at lambeau Field in Kansas City. Yeah, beating 297 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Kansas City, I mean last year. Yeah, there's there's things 298 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: about this guy, and you're right, I think both you're 299 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: right if you find ways to help him, you know, 300 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: And it's I don't want to say it's just as 301 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: easy as to say play to his strengths, but these 302 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks do need help. There are very few that are rare. 303 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers looks like to me, he doesn't need a 304 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: whole lot of help. He hasn't had a lot of 305 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: help front for a couple of years. That's a rare 306 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: football players. And he's gotten injured because of it too. 307 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: He has gotten hurt because of that. Yeah, absolutely right. 308 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: So you know to me to say to sit there 309 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: and wonder why there's so much hate for dak if you, 310 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: if you you should try and understand what his limitations are, 311 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: not attack him as the player. You should say, Okay, 312 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: the anticipation needs to be better, right, you know, the 313 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the accuracy needs to be better. You know, look at 314 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: the Look at the difference with and blank Bordles playing 315 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: with Leonard Fournette yea and without four net absolutely just 316 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: go look at it. And their defense has played well 317 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: except for this last game. He doesn't have a running game. 318 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: The Cowboys will not win if Zeke finishes a game 319 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: with fifty four yards. That's that's that's just He's absolutely right, 320 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: write it down. Yeah, and this team is built to 321 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: do that, right, that's what that's the problem. And if 322 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: you're saying, okay, yeah, we have to sling this thing around. 323 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Mickey's right, you're gonna take an l you know, bortles 324 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: through the ball sixty one times against Kansas City. That's 325 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: a problem. He's the reason why you might have a 326 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: chance in this game, you know, and the rough games 327 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: and people, and that was a first overall pick. Yep, 328 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: you know that. And you think about that that that 329 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: top top three, right is the top three number one 330 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: was right there? Three? Okay, you're right, yeah, I mean 331 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: he but that was a top pick, right though, doubt 332 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: so to me. You know, look for answers, but don't 333 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: don't have to say, oh, it's this, it's this, it's 334 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: this guy. You know. Yeah, the pitchforks come out after 335 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: a loss, the pitchfork. A lot of kids are looking 336 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: for one guy to blame, and a lot of times, 337 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: as Garrett, and sometimes I feel like I feel like 338 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: it's the folks that were waiting in the weeds after 339 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: a Romo that they had to kind of go away 340 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: because Dak was having some success now all of a sudden, 341 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: it's rest revisionist history, you know. And trust me, I 342 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: always say this. I was on the staff that brought 343 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: Tony Romo here. I thank you know, jim Hess Jim Garrett, 344 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Bill Parcels, thank you guys for what you 345 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: did to bring as Tony Romo. You guys deserve a 346 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: lot of credit for that. But you you've got to 347 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: move on. You've got to move on from this and 348 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: trying to bring back you know, trying to bring him 349 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: back is not going to fix your problems for today, right. 350 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: You know, the general manager needs to look at himself 351 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, have I helped this head coach? Have 352 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: I helped this head coach with enough to win? You know, 353 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: obviously he feels like he has because he said, well, 354 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I see DAK being a long term in his mind, 355 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Jerry said. Yesterday he said, Jerry said he felt like 356 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: the DAK right or wrong. That's the general managers the thought. 357 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: So we'll see. But you know, as a general manager, 358 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: he also needs to think about did I make the 359 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: right decision at receiver? Did did we adequately staff? What's 360 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: going on at at at tight end? And it's my 361 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: offensive line really playing to the level that I thought 362 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: they would see and I and I'm tired of hearing, 363 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: especially on not going for fourth and one. You've got 364 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the NFL. And you don't 365 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: want to run behind him. Well, let's can that for 366 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: a while, okay, because it's not the best offensive line 367 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. You don't want to not 368 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: playing to that level right now? Yeah, And that's fair, 369 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: you know. And and God bless Joe Looney, he's not 370 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. He is not Sorry, he's playing well for 371 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: Joe Looney. Yeah, but he's not Travis Frederick. And you 372 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: only have two guys out there right now that are 373 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. You don't have three. And and Lele Collins 374 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: was not playing to the level that he was at 375 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: the end of last year. So you know this idea 376 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: that well, that's your bread and butter, this offensive line. 377 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Watch the game, yeah, watch it. Just trying to figure 378 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: out You got to try and figure out what what 379 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: clues you have. You have to try and figure things out. Sure, 380 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not I don't think any of 381 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: us here in this room right now or are giving 382 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback a pass. But I'm all we get accused 383 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: of that, by the way, And I think that's that's 384 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: what upsets me is I don't mind. I don't mind 385 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: answering folks questions. I really don't that's my job. But 386 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: also I ask you just to give it some thought. 387 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: Give it some thought. If you feel like, hey, that 388 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: that's the only avenue, then I can't help you. I'm sorry. 389 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: Mickey's right, you voted for a president. I can't change 390 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: your mind. And in some degree they went the route 391 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: they did at wide receiver. And I think even Stephen 392 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: Jones said this on the fan this week. It's like, 393 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: we're into the season now, Yeah, it is what it is. 394 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to do the best of what we 395 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: can right with it. They're not saying they made a mistake, 396 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: but that's where they are. And it's not one fix. 397 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: And that's a problem when it's not just one thing 398 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: with an offense, you know, the dealing with right now, 399 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: Look what this team did last last year during the 400 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: off season, they went out and they realized that Mickey 401 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: was screaming that they needed better left guard. He was 402 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: absolutely right. What they do they spent resources. They already 403 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: had three Pro Bowl players. But what they do They 404 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: took the fiftieth overall pick and went for a guard, 405 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: and they could have traded that pick for an All 406 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: Pro safety, which they didn't do. They thought it was 407 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: important enough to try and fix or help the offensive line. 408 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: So they went and got a guard to shore that up. 409 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: What's been the narrative all through the long boy, I 410 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: loved I love Sean Lee. I love Sean Lee. I 411 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: love Sean Lee. I love Sean Lee. But Shan Lee's 412 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: always hurt. I can't love Sean Lee when he's always hurt. 413 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: What they do They go out and get Layton vander Esh. 414 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: You know where they could have got a receiver. They 415 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: made a decision that, you know what, it was more 416 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: important to them to go out and get a guy 417 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: that could play when Sean Lee wasn't available. And it 418 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: might be that Laton Vanderish. He might be the guy that, 419 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, god willing just goes on and has his 420 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: tremendous career, a reliable sixteen out of sixteen game career. 421 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: They made a big push, They made a gutsy move 422 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: to go get Jalen Smith. That looks like it's helped 423 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: him as well. So I mean, there's ways to they 424 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is I think they're gonna 425 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: look at things and say, you know what, we didn't 426 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: do this very well. We didn't do this very well. 427 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: And we need to address those things. They prove they 428 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: can do that, just need to do it. It's like 429 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: you said, it's in the season. It's a little bit 430 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: harder to do it all right now. That's why maybe 431 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: you need to try and find a way to get 432 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Bryce Butler involved. Maybe it means, hey, Jeff Swain looks 433 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: like a pretty darn good option throwing the ball down 434 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: the field. To get him more involved some way you can. Yeah, 435 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: those are the things you have to do. You remember 436 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: last word for break, Mick. You remember when I got 437 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: sick and tired of me And I think it started 438 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: with the media. First, the narrative about Dak friendly. Yeah, 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: you love that. Hell is Dax's friendly? Now, Yeah, that's 440 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. Oh, it is your Dak friendly. 441 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: That's all they talked about in the off seat. Well, 442 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: we've gotta be more Dak friendly. Well, Dak friendly was 443 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: getting Zeke on the field and protecting him better than 444 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: they did the last eight games of the season. And 445 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: that's and I'll say this before we go to break 446 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: the sensible fans that are frustrating that there are fans 447 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: out there that they're just yeah, it's not everybody but 448 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: it's just there's overall frustration going back to last eight 449 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: games of twenty seventeen and it's carry over into this year, 450 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and how do we fix it? 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Craving Doctor Pepper, the one 493 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: you crave better to talk In Cowboys in football off 494 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: the quickest plays mixed with some good old fashioned ingenuity 495 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: are the key to winning. Kind of like Tommy John's 496 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: horizontal quick draw fly. It's the most innovative, simple and 497 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: speedy feature that other underwear brands just don't have. Shop 498 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: exclusive from Cowboys Underwear at Tommy john dot com, forward 499 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: slash Cowboys quick Draw. You're right about that, Mickey. You 500 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: said it. You said it. It was it. It works, 501 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: And when you're snow skin and your ski pants stuff 502 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: like that, you gotta be able to you know, a 503 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of maneuvering going on that. I did miss one word. 504 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: I said innovative. It's intuitive mostly to overall your dismount 505 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: was okay though, Yeah, yeah, I think it was. It. 506 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: It works really well. You know where I didn't have 507 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: no scripting from me for this Jack Black, We're about 508 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: to do so as real well on airplanes too. Yeah, 509 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: there you go when you don't have much room to maneuver, 510 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: and maneuver even for like a forty five minute flight 511 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: back from Houston and you were wedgie free. Can I 512 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: ask somebody a real quick question about that flight? Yeah? 513 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Did you guys enjoy it? You guys got sandwiches on 514 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: the way home. They handed out like wrapped up Were 515 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: they good sandwiches? It was amazing. They were really good 516 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: about Philly Philly, like Philly cheesteaks, steak sandwich. Yeah, it 517 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: was hot, we got it. It was in tinfoil. It 518 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: was too hot. I saved it until I got home 519 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: at like three. It just wolfed it down, wolfed it 520 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: down at like three to thirty in the morning. It 521 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: was the best late early dinner breakfast ever. Man finished 522 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: my work, so I kept it going. I have to admit. 523 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: On the way there, they right at the end they 524 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: handed us out chicken sandwiches, right, and I wasn't hungry, 525 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: And I said, you know what lunch tomorrow? Oh god, okay, okay, okay. 526 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: It was so hot I couldn't need it. Yeah, I 527 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: felt like an old miser sometimes sometimes though, and I'm 528 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: not again, those those meals on the way home. I 529 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: remember him being like, I really don't want that. I 530 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: would rather those sandwiches. Yeah, I'll take any of it. 531 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: I think it's great sandwich, which I'm not trying to complain. 532 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Trust me, folks, Hey, listen, you're talking to guys. Lived 533 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: a lot of life on airplanes. I appreciate the food 534 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: on the charters, but there's sometimes where you just go. 535 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: It just never sounded great. All I know is his 536 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: light was so short. Yeah that just before we took 537 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: off the Missouri South Carolina game got delayed by lightning 538 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: and he got we landed, it hadn't resumed. That's why 539 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: you aren't hungry. Can't tell a real quick story, Mickey. 540 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Do you still do your thing when you Mickey is 541 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: the only guy know that could find a college football 542 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: game without internet at thirty eight thousand feet. Mickey can 543 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: hold he had this radio. You still that radio, that 544 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: little h m MP three player. Mickey could get scores 545 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: from around the country. He would hold the antenna against 546 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: the window and over his head. He just he'd hold 547 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: it up a little. He hold it up against the window. 548 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: He'd movement behind his head, losing broad as. I'm like, ah, 549 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: it would pick up radio stations as we as we went. Yeah, 550 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how he did. He's the only one 551 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: that could get scores on those on those Saturday road 552 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: trip still works. I just don't don't anymore because we 553 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: get which we get Wi Fi on the plane. That's 554 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: too bad, because that's yeah, watching you do that, watch 555 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: it's it's yeah scoring. You see Gort and he's standing up. 556 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Somebody's got a be ap wire. That's right, ap wire, 557 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: very important. All right, let's uh, let's get to the phones. Here, 558 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: go to the first phone call of the day. Matthew 559 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: in Iowa. You're up first on Talking Cowboys. Man, I 560 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: don't even know where to start this week. It's uh, 561 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: um and Barnet. There's just so many things all on UM. 562 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: I know you guys are you know? There was a 563 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: nice segue because I was going to kind of lead 564 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: into the fact that everybody wants to blame these wide receivers, 565 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: and after watching the twenty two, you know there's times 566 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: where they're not doing a job. There was a blitz 567 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: where nobody reacted, nobody kept their route off and Dac 568 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: was left to hug Um, you know. But there was 569 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: also another blitz where you know it was I think 570 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: it was a pass where Dak threw its way over 571 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Colby Very's head hind two or three options on the 572 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: right side where the safety and the linebacker had blissed 573 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: and completely vacated the area. So, yep, it's just a mess. 574 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: And so my question to you, Brian is We've had 575 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: several quarterbacks coming through this offensive system that Garrett Is installed, 576 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Matt Castle, Tony Romo, John Kittner, but Tony's really been 577 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the only one that's been successful in it. At what 578 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: point do we have to start looking at the system? Well, yeah, 579 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: you want to lump those guys in. I mean, you know, 580 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: Kittna had a solid career as mostly a backup. Castle 581 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: was at the end of his rope pretty much these days. 582 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, I think back in Detroit right 583 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: now is what he's doing. And I'm not trying to 584 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: say these guys around the same level as Dak, but 585 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: it just seems like Tony is the only one that 586 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: could ever figure it out and use this offense to 587 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: to you know, do great things. It just seems like 588 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who we throw in there. There's there's just 589 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: a struggle with the quarterback position, unless unless it was 590 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Tony And I don't know if that happens to again, 591 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: did that have to do with the offense? Maybe? Yeah, 592 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Well you've only had how many I mean, how many 593 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: actual quote unquote starting quarterbacks have they had? They've had 594 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: two quarterback and I tell you, I wish he had 595 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: in a quick because I I really thought, even though 596 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: that that that end of the season game didn't go 597 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: well his way. I thought he played very very well 598 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: and I who who Kyle Orton? Oh till he didn't 599 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: want to play anymore. I know. That's what's so disappointing 600 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: about it. He seemed like he was finally making progress 601 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: in this offense and and then he decided to quit. 602 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: And ever since, it just seems like, you know, put 603 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: Kitten in there as well. But you know, looking at everything, 604 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's I think you're making too big 605 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: of a broad brush on all that it's possible. I 606 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: mean we're talking backup quarterbacks that you know, they were 607 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: at the end of their careers. Kitten, it wasn't bad, No, 608 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: KIDDA did a pretty good job. I mean, he's right 609 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: of the ship was five and three with him. It's 610 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: it's a home I believe if I remember right, Let 611 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: me ask you can I ask everybody a question here? 612 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: Do we feel like that maybe Romo was Maybe Romo's 613 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: the anticipation, the smarts, intelligence, reading, defense, all that, you know, 614 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: maybe that you know there's things that I'm sure And 615 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: I've asked Sean Payton this question about Drew Brees, you know, 616 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: and I like, how's it to work with a guy 617 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: that's that sharp on the field? He says, it makes 618 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: up for a lot of mistakes that I make. You know, 619 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: so sometimes you get quarterbacks that are very comfortable playing. Okay, 620 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna give me a system, but I'm gonna figure 621 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: out ways to manipulate it. I think I think Tom 622 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: Moore said it about Peyton Manning. I'm naming great quarterbacks here, 623 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: by the way, you know, I'm naming guys that are 624 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. But Tom Moore would say I would send 625 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: in a play, and Tom Moore even said it a 626 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: little bit about it. He did some work with the 627 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. You know, you send in a play and 628 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's my play turns into 629 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: another play, which makes it Oh okay, I see what 630 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: you just did there. So sometimes you get a partnership 631 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: where the offensive coordinator calls a play, you get a 632 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: quarterback that's so intelligent in Okay, i'm gonna read the defense. 633 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: Let's cover two. Okay, I need I'm gonna get a 634 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: blitz him over here. Okay, I'm gonna throw it right here. 635 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: I think that's where Tony did a really great job 636 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: of manipulating the system you know that he had, And 637 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: so I think there's I think there's some merit too 638 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: of Hey, you know you have a system, but you 639 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: got a guy that can expand this system. You need 640 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: to change the system for Dak. Maybe Dak does what happened? 641 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: Did you have the same opinion in twenty sixteen, You know, 642 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: I thought Zeke took over. I thought it was that 643 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: whole the whole season was predicated on the offensive line 644 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: and Zeke, and I didn't think Dak. I still don't 645 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: think Dak is a natural passer. That's just my opinion. 646 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: I think he passed the ball too much. He doesn't 647 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: have a very quick release, and I think that's what 648 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: gets him in trouble. Especially on the balls that are 649 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: tipped up. It's not because it's not because the wide 650 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: receivers not necessarily driving enough back to the ball. It's 651 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: the ball has been you know, let loose late in 652 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: his break and he gives a cornerback that opportunity to 653 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: get that hand in there. And I like the past 654 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: that Michael Gallup just flat dropped into an interception. No, 655 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: this was the first interception, I believe, the very first 656 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: one that was low. But it was again Dak almost 657 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: took an extra step, had at the ball and then 658 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: used his whole body the where you sit in there, 659 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: where you almost knee when you finished that third step. 660 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: You gotta snap that ball off before. So that stuff breaking, 661 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: and that stuff didn't happen in twenty sixteen. In the 662 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: first eight games of twenty seventeen, he just had he 663 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: just has happy feet. Now, Well, how come like the 664 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: off season, all of a sudden he developed happy feet? 665 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: Why is he got happy feet in it? Why is 666 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: he half happy feet? I said? The offensive line is 667 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: definitely all right, all right, we're getting better now. You 668 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: still have you know, he had time in this game 669 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: last week times and sometimes he doesn't understand that you 670 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: can drop the ball in between the safety and and uh, 671 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: that's difference. He goes off to swing for a three 672 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: yard game, which I thought some notes here. I mean 673 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: Eavy was open about three or four times. Sure, And 674 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: I want to come back to the very last play 675 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: last week before the end of regulation. You have four seconds, 676 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: the defense is playing fifteen yards off your wide receiver. Yeah, 677 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: why not just immediately pitch it to a wide receiver, 678 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: get five yard six yards to get it to the 679 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: forty four and give your kicker a chance with one 680 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: second left. I think I can take the sixty five 681 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: yard field goal when I give them an opportunity. Yeah, 682 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know. I went back and watched that too, 683 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: and I from the TV copy, I thought, just sitting there, 684 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, why wouldn't they just throw the quick 685 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: out and do what Parcels did against the Giants that 686 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: time and go Billy and Billy kind of try the 687 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: fifty something yard field goal. But it looked like to me, 688 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: with with only ten seconds left, it wasn't you know, 689 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to happen fast enough for them to 690 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: be able to pull it off. So yeah, I understand, 691 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: I understand the frustration, and I you know, the thing 692 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: about the quarterback is, you know, we're I think you're 693 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: trying to make Dak Prescott into Tony Romo when it 694 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: comes to what's going on between his ears. And I 695 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: mean well, and I mean that, I mean that in 696 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: no disrespect to Dak, because I think that they're they're 697 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: two totally different quarterbacks. And you know what, they're not 698 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: running the same offensive system, right it wasn't they get 699 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of that in the game the other 700 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: night too. There's things you can do. There's things you 701 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: can do with Tony clearly throwing the ball down the 702 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: field and manipulate offense, manipulate the defense that you can't 703 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: do with Dak. And you know, we all need to 704 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: realize that, you know, the anticipation, the smarts, they just 705 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: the savvy. I think they're both extremely tough. I think 706 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: Tony's you could be a very accurate quarterback. I don't 707 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: think Dad could be particularly accurate, but you know he is. 708 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, in this day and age, maybe it's not 709 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: the best way to play football, but they've decided until 710 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: somebody else comes in here, if that's the case, if 711 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: that happens, that they're going to play football by trying 712 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: to be physical upfront and run it and then make 713 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: plays off play action, and they just you know, that's 714 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: that's a tough thing when they don't run it. And 715 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Dak didn't have the same uh NFL upbringing as Tony did. 716 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: Tony sat watch prepared for three years before he got 717 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: his chance. This guy's three years he's going through it 718 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: on the field with the bullets flying. Just remember Romo 719 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: didn't become Romo until his fourth season. He also had 720 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: nine years in Garrett's system, and by the end of 721 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: his run here, like Brian said, he'd mastered the system. Yeah, 722 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: where he could, he could basically have Lanson, you know, 723 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: make adjustment again. I've talked to Sean Payton about this 724 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: a long time because I'm always fascinated by Drew Brees. 725 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: But he's like, I'll send stuff out there and Drew 726 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: will just take it and he'll think, Okay, I'm gonna 727 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: think it a little bit further down the line. I 728 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: just don't feel like you have that quarterback here right now. 729 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's why the great wins are the 730 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: great ones, because they have that ability to kind of 731 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: take it. It's not all athletic ability because or armtown 732 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: or all that. Because if that was the case, Jeff 733 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: George would be in the Hall of Fame right now. 734 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning didn't have a great arm Dante Colepepper would 735 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame right now. Steve McNair, 736 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 1: who was a great quarterback in his own right, would 737 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame right now. If it's 738 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: just about taking the ball and throwing it through the 739 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: car wash and having it not get wet, you know, yeah, 740 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: and you have to get Peyton Manning didn't become Peyton 741 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: Manning the first couple of years of his career, by 742 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: the way. He he he. But where he and Dak 743 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: do share some similarities is, and this is gonna be funny. 744 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: Their rookies and they had to play I mean the Colts. 745 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: The Colts were a three and thirteen team, and they 746 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: had they had the pick, and they they took Manning 747 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: and they threw him out there and he got lit up, 748 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: and Troy he got lit up too. They all got 749 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: lit up. And again I am not if you if 750 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: you want to, you can't compare Romo and Dak in 751 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: this way. You can't because I think that there's things 752 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: that the escapability both seemed to have when when Tony 753 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: was playing, you know, the the armed talent. I think 754 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: Dak has got I think Dak has is strong enough farm. 755 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean some of those throws he makes going to 756 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: his left. But really, but what's between the years? And 757 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean that not as he's a dumb guy that 758 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: you can't function in life. I mean sometimes to be 759 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: successful you have to have smarts. You have to have 760 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: that uncanny ability to see what's happening in front of 761 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: you and make plays whether they're you know, it's anticipation. 762 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: People ask me about Dak's worst trade. I think it's anticipation. 763 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's just something he could develop. You know, 764 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: it's it's going to take some time. But right now 765 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: you're taking the lumps because he lacks it. So all right, 766 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 1: fair enough, good points, Thanks Matthew for the call. Let's 767 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: take our final break. We come back. 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Yes, and Jack 823 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: Black is the official skincare products of the Dallas Cowboys. 824 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: Suspicial skincare products of Talking Cowboys. Because you got some 825 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: guys here that need some help and we'll take all 826 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: the help we can get. So if you if you 827 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: want to get some of the the Jack Black products like 828 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: we do, make sure you go to uh get Jack 829 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: Black dot com. Uh. They have a promotional code for cowboys. 830 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: You get the four faves of their their like kind 831 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: of their their program with all the skincare stuff and 832 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: the lip bomb thing, all for ten bucks. Make sure 833 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: you use the code cowboys to do it. Jack Black 834 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: is for real, So check it out. You know it's done, Brian. 835 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: You know what Jack Black's gonna cause me to do. 836 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is manly or not, 837 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: but I've got all my products. But when I work 838 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: out and shower at the health club before I come here, 839 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: it's hard to get them to the shower. I need 840 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: a shower candy. Yeah, is that you're gonna carry it around? Like? 841 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: Is that unmanly? Not at all? I tried. I tried 842 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: to tell my son, who's now you know, high school 843 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: football player that you know, don't put all your stuff 844 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: in something that you can carry. I remember like being 845 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: in college. You know you haven't go into the shower 846 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 1: stuff and then you have and you never have everything. 847 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: You would forget shampoo or you get if I'm around, 848 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: put it all on a thing. You can buy these 849 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: little handles, you carry them all what I need. It's 850 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: it's awesome. I wonder if Jack Black's got it's but 851 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,959 Speaker 1: you know the thing that Jack Black, it's interest all 852 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: they're all the tubes are all blue, right, so you 853 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: have to kind of okay, what am I? Okay, that's 854 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 1: what's kind of graf, that's the skin, that's the beard, 855 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: loub that's you know, it's all great stuff. But you 856 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: have to kind of physically look and see because they're 857 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: all kind of shape the same way. But they're all great. 858 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: But they're all tremendous products. I take really the three 859 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: and yeah, Christmas coming up soon, the holidays. Yeah, I 860 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: take my three one watch with me every road trip. 861 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: I can't do without it, even Houston where you're just 862 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: four hours away. Forty five minute flat. Gotta have it. Man, hair, 863 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: body face got a times save in the four faves. Yeah, 864 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: beard loop all great, butterface good times. All right, quickly, 865 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: I know we only got about twelve minutes left in 866 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: the show. We say we talked a little bit about 867 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: this Jacksonville defense, Brian, I mean, from what you've seen, Yeah, 868 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 1: are they as advertised? Are they the toughest unit they've 869 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: faced the Cowboys will face so far and possibly the 870 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: entire season? This is this is a unique group and 871 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: they've done a great job. This is a team that's 872 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: had a poor record for a number of years, they've 873 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: had high picks. They've done a great job of adding 874 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: defensive talent to their team. They're working on that offensive 875 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: side of the football now, but you know, they've also 876 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: hit on some guys that they've spent money on. If 877 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: you talk about their cornerbacks, A. J. Bouyer, the corner 878 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: they're playing op to Jalen Ramsey has been really, really good. Now, 879 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: this is a unique team to watch, guys, because the 880 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: cornerbacks flop sides. So I was kind of thinking of 881 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: a plan of maybe taking taking my whoever wide receivers 882 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: not gonna be a factor in this game, and put 883 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: him over there, you know, and Jalen rant and just 884 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: occupy him. You can't really do that because they stay 885 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: flip flop, uh, you know. And it's not because they're 886 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: carrying guys. They're not shadow they're not shadowing. They'll play field, 887 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: and they'll play boundary, and I mean boundary near the sidelines, 888 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: and then they'll let the other guy play the field. 889 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: So you can't really, you don't. You can't get a 890 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: bead on where where Jalen Ramsey's gonna play. So that 891 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: could be a little bit of a problem. You gotta 892 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: be able to identify with him how you attack him. 893 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: I would attack him when he's in zone coverage. Don't 894 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: attack him when he's in man. And when he's when 895 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: he's gonna give you a little space, make sure the 896 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: decision is quick, get the ball out and then and 897 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: then take what you can get out of that. When 898 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: you play man against him, he's very much like Patrick Peterson, 899 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: and he doesn't give you very much room. He doesn't 900 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: give you space. He's gonna run with you, he's gonna 901 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: be physical with the line, and he's gonna do all 902 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: those things, so you have to be careful the secondary. 903 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: Barry Church has done a nice job with them. This 904 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: Tayshawn the Gibson, you know, he's the other safety. I'm 905 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a little bit I'm not too sure 906 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: about him. They drafted this Ronnie Harrison from Alabama, who 907 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: they've used a lot more when they played Tennessee, who 908 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: was run heavy. They took They took Harrison and they 909 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: took Gibson and they put them both down and then 910 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: also played with Barry Church back. So they put three 911 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: safeties on the field and kind of a kind of 912 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: a nickel look, but that was to handle they didn't 913 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: feel like that Tennessee could throw the football. So now 914 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys being very run heavy, Tennessee being 915 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: very run heavy. You might see the same thing where 916 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: they try and get more safeties down Miles Jack this 917 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: Telvin Smith. I mean, they've got a good group of linebackers, 918 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: but the defensive line is impressive. It's gonna remind you 919 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: very much of how the old Giants were. They got big. 920 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: They've got a big defensive end in Kalaiss Campbell. He 921 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: plays what they play, the strong defensive end. So whatever 922 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: whenever they declare your strength, they say, okay, your strengths 923 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: to the right, They'll put Kalais Campbell to that side 924 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: and then he will be a rusher there. We also 925 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: have to be worried about him putting them over the 926 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: top of Connor Williams because when they went to Nickel 927 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: against Kansas City to try and create pressure, they put 928 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: Kalaiss Campbell inside and he is He's as six eight guy. 929 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: He's six eight like David Irvy, but he doesn't have 930 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: the quickness of David Irving. He's yeah, but his lateral 931 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: agility struggles a little bit. But you talk about power, 932 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: he's a straight power player. I've seen him walk guys 933 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: right back in when he's playing end. When he's playing tackle, 934 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: I've seen him walk guys right back into the quarterbacks lap. 935 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 1: So that's the problem you're gonna have to you're gonna 936 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: have to do with Malik Jackson plays as the undertackle 937 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: of the three. He's another guy that could very well 938 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: give Connor Williams a little problem. And then Marcel Darius, 939 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: who they got from Buffalo is in a trade, is 940 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: just a big guy that's hard to move inside. So 941 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna try and stop you from running 942 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: the ball, but they think they're good enough too in 943 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: the secondary to just to cover you up and not 944 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: give anything on the back end. And we'll see what happens. 945 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they've they've had, they've they've you know, Kansas 946 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 1: City uniquely the way that Kansas City plays. Mahomes did 947 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 1: a nice job wet day, getting the ball around, very 948 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: creative and when some of the things they did offensively 949 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: to try and take advantage of Jackson. But I think 950 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville lost that football game because of Blake Bortles. That's 951 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: why they lost. He was awful. Yeah, that's why they 952 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: lost that game, Mike, what do you see from them 953 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: on tape if you've watched a little bit so far. 954 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: I watched the game, yeah, and so I've got a 955 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: messed up view of what they are. Yeah, because they 956 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: got torched. Darius IMPRESSI to me. He gave Kansas City trouble. Yeah, 957 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: in the middle, he made a lot of plays. Um, 958 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Kansas City just kind of had their way 959 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 1: with them, and with the amount of turnovers they made, 960 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: it made it easier on them. I mean, they're they're 961 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: they beat New England, all right, they did, but then 962 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: they won. Uh, they're they're they're the champions of New 963 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: York because they beat the Jets and the Giants. Yeah, 964 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,720 Speaker 1: they do have desistically the best defense in the league, 965 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: and they do have eight guys on their roster who 966 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: have made Pro Bowls. They're still number one. After the 967 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: yards they gave up against Kansas City, they're still number one. 968 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: And they will score touchdowns too. That's the other thing 969 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: you got to worry about against a Cowboys offense that 970 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: has been challenged so far. Team scored seven touchdowns last 971 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: year defensively, and I think they've last year. I think 972 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: they got a couple this year too, at least one. 973 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: I think they got one against the Giants. Yeah, so 974 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: they played their tough game. So if they do that 975 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: with their corners, Yeah, then I'm putting my wide receivers 976 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: in motion. Yeah. We talked, and then they can decide 977 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: where they're going. We talked to Alan Hearns yesterday, who 978 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: knows these guys very well, practiced with him every day, 979 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: and he said, look, they're gonna load up to stop Zeke, 980 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: and they're gonna press us, and we have to make 981 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: plays on the outside. That's that is imperative for this 982 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver group. This week, Well, they weren't. They weren't 983 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: pressing the whole game against Kansas City. That's why they 984 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: started playing off. Yeah, that's why I felt like though 985 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: they respected Kansas City speed with that hill. I think 986 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: they were worried about They were worried about hill. They're 987 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: playing on a grass field, it was wet conditions, and 988 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: they thought, Okay, we can't slip, we can't fall. But yeah, 989 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: it's a I really wanted to see them play against 990 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: the Giants because the Giants with it was the first 991 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: game of the year. You know, the Giants are gonna 992 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: try and run the ball with that rookie back. But 993 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: the way I think they're going to play the Cowboys, 994 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: and I think Alan's absolutely right, They're gonna press you 995 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: and they're gonna try and choke this run. And where 996 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: where it was very evident, like I was talking about 997 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: with moving guys around, was that Tennessee game. You know, 998 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: because Tennessee is a They're much like the Cowboys. They're 999 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: very run heavy. And I felt like, Okay, how do 1000 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: they do this? But when they wanted to get to 1001 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: when they want to get the pass rush, they kicked 1002 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: that Campbell inside. You know, they bring on they bring 1003 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 1: on Fowler, their first round pick from a while. But 1004 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean they have guys that can legitimately rush the passer. 1005 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: They got big guys inside, they got fast guys on 1006 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: the edge, and they got linebackers that are really sidelined 1007 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: to silence players. I will say this, Uh, as much 1008 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: as I love Miles Jack, Jalen Smith from what I 1009 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: saw on tape is playing better than what Miles Jack. 1010 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: Is interesting. They put Campbell inside so much. I thought 1011 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: he was a defensive tackle. Now I said, when did 1012 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: they move in the defensive Yeah, He's like they had 1013 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: him inside quite a bit. This is I just feel 1014 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: like that they're gonna try and press and push Connor Williams. 1015 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a tough game for Connor Williams 1016 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to hold up against some guys. 1017 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm mentioned that whole thing with Malie Jackson. He's he's 1018 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: like a a big quick guy. I mean, they attack 1019 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: your shoulder around, you know, and when we see Connor 1020 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: when he gets a little over extended, he gets you know, 1021 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: that guy swims around him and kind of like wit 1022 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: saw last week with the with the Texans JJ Watt 1023 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 1: quick movement. Then there you go. So when you play 1024 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: two tight end, how do they declare what the strong 1025 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: side is? They'll probably declare to the strength of the 1026 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 1: tight ends because they probably feel that you're going to 1027 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 1: run the football so to Swayton side, right, Jarwin's right, right, 1028 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: So if if they put if if you the thing, 1029 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: what you what you're gonna try and do is try 1030 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,720 Speaker 1: and balance them. You know, you could play twelve personnel 1031 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: and then split your tight ends and then balance. That's 1032 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: what I meant both if they're both on the same side, 1033 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,919 Speaker 1: of course, that's very obvious, but if you play twelve 1034 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: personnel and you put one on the right, one on 1035 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: the left, you're gonna balance them and try and make 1036 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: them declare. Okay, now, maybe you could scheme a way 1037 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: to keep to keep h to keep Ramsey out of 1038 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 1: the out of the picture, and then just play against 1039 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: ten guys. You know that that that that's gonna be. 1040 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: Like I said, that's gonna be. But he will travel 1041 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 1: and he will also play in the slot. So don't 1042 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: be surprised if all of a sudden Beasley's down in 1043 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: the slot. They're trying to work that angle a little 1044 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,280 Speaker 1: bit because they're their normal slot guy is Tyler Patman. 1045 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,720 Speaker 1: We all from here, So all right? Why no Malik 1046 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: Jackson from Was he Texas? He was? Was it Denver? 1047 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: They got him from Denver? I know no, But I 1048 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: mean did he play college? Jefferson? Right, Belle, Jefferson's a linebacker? 1049 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, Texas? I said, right, jack Yeah, okay, 1050 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: all right, all right, right, quick plug by the way 1051 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: and go to Dallas Cowboys dot com four tickets to 1052 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: purchase tickets. Cowboys Jaguars Sunday three, twenty five kickoff at 1053 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium, Nate in Frisco. If you're still 1054 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: holding quickly, you got the last word on talking cowboys. 1055 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: Good morning y'all. Um, last time I wanted to mention um, 1056 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: especially with difficulty you're having with the run, why don't 1057 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: they go out and try to get a blocking tight end. 1058 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking made you like a Tyler Conklin or a 1059 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,359 Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis. I mean, what do y'all think? You mean? 1060 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: Like now, right now? Yeah, how are you gonna do that? 1061 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: He wants to trade you out of trade? He wants 1062 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: to trade. Yeah, all right, thanks for the calling, Nate. 1063 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're gonna Yeah, where's the deadline? By 1064 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: the way, if you want to make a trade sometime 1065 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: this month, right yeah, it's it's end of the it's 1066 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: it's the end of the month of the month, the 1067 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: last Yeah, right around there. I think that to me 1068 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: that if you can identify you know, this is gonna 1069 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: sound funny, but Rico Gathers has not been terrible, you know, 1070 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: so big body, yeah, big body. And I'm thinking that 1071 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe the more confidence that you give him, maybe you say, 1072 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, and he's starting to understand the plays and 1073 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: it knows what he needs to do. If you're gonna 1074 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: throw him the football. Put him out there and let 1075 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: him block too, you know, let him, let him let 1076 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: people see him block, block, block, block block, and then 1077 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: sneak him, you know, up the field like you did. 1078 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: Don't just put him on the field to throw him 1079 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: the ball. But Rico Gathers has not been terrible locking, 1080 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of can he be an h back? 1081 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: If I asked, I don't know. I'm just gonna put him. 1082 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put him in line and let him 1083 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: but use that big body to capture the edge. I 1084 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the caller because he's thinking, hey, you know I've 1085 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: said all along, please if you could just have James 1086 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: Hannah walk into this building. But that's a stuntman. That's 1087 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But suddenly, you know people and he's 1088 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: not the first one to bring that up about a fullback. 1089 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: But remember when Zeke got here. Oh he's better in 1090 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 1: a one back. He doesn't run well. Keith behind the 1091 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: fullback me personally, I miss Keith Smith. Glass eater. A 1092 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 1: glass eater, that's what Keith Smith is. He's a glass eater. 1093 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: And you know, Ola Wally is kind of a fit 1094 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: and fin or finding fit guy. Keith Smith was a 1095 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: he would go in there and blast and whatever he saw. 1096 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: Now you know, that's kind of way they If you 1097 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: can have a fullback, give me a guy that's gonna 1098 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 1: go in there and blast people. That's what I need. 1099 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: All right. That's it. Thank you guys for joining us. 1100 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: Thanks to Ken for producing. We'll be back on Thursday, Bill, 1101 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back. We'll can and you're breaking down Cowboys 1102 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: Jack Sunday at at and T Stadium. 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