Speaker 1: Thank you for you're coming back. Part two is underway.
Speaker 1: Have you ever got caught cheating? I did.
Speaker 2: I got caught cheating. I was living with this girl
Speaker 2: and came home, turned the light and the other girl
Speaker 2: I was dating within that within the house with her.
Speaker 1: I was like, I got the wrong apart.
Speaker 2: And they both was like this, yeah, yeah, motherfucker. And
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I sat there comments I was camping there, I was.
Speaker 2: I was cool as the funds. I sat there with
Speaker 2: looking at both of them, and they did all day,
Speaker 2: what you gotta say? Nine? What you gotta say?
Speaker 1: Nine?
Speaker 2: I was cool as ice. I just said, who's gonna
Speaker 2: stay with me? Which one of y'all gonna stay with me?
Speaker 2: That's why I'm explained to wow. And one of them
Speaker 2: was like, see, I knew you didn't came, motherfucking and left,
Speaker 2: and the other one sat there and was crying. I say,
Speaker 2: you leaving too, And she just sat there and she
Speaker 2: was like, and that's why I explained it to and
Speaker 2: me and her he kept it going cold. If I
Speaker 2: haven't get I'm only explaining one time, explaining one time
Speaker 2: to one person.
Speaker 1: You are you are you? And you who am I
Speaker 1: talking to Wow?
Speaker 2: I talked to her me and her. We was cool.
Speaker 2: I told exactly what happened on Surreal Ship. So what
Speaker 2: about marriage? Would I get married? Yeah? I would like
Speaker 2: to get married. I would like to get married. But
Speaker 2: like again, it's gotta be like it's gotta be with
Speaker 2: that motherfucker, that friend man. No stress, no, none of that.
Speaker 2: Even if you feel stressed, you gotta you gotta believe
Speaker 2: in yourself that this ain't ship, This ain't bigger than us.
Speaker 2: You can't keep making situations bigger than us. Like you
Speaker 2: have to understand situation at hand and know that if
Speaker 2: we are going to grow together, we're gonna constantly have
Speaker 2: issues because the level that we are on now, we
Speaker 2: got illicual issues on that level, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Now we go here, it's new issues with
Speaker 2: this shit. It might be I gotta be out of
Speaker 2: you might have to be out of town more. I
Speaker 2: gotta be out of time more. Now that asthma, trust
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Now we get to this level.
Speaker 2: We got a new house, we got new that. Now
Speaker 2: we got new neighbors and shit, now we got to
Speaker 2: do this and do that. And the house we got different
Speaker 2: issues with the house, like we got different issues with
Speaker 2: the house. Like it's level, but for every level, it's
Speaker 2: a new devil, you know what I mean, And so
Speaker 2: therefore you have to deal with that. But you cannot
Speaker 2: let that be greater than where you're trying to go
Speaker 2: in your situation. And you have to learn from that
Speaker 2: from each level. A lot of people they go to
Speaker 2: another level and then they argue and they never think that, no,
Speaker 2: we got another issue. We got differ on this different level.
Speaker 2: If we're now making money and we successful, that's gonna
Speaker 2: come with extra holes, extra niggas and shit like that.
Speaker 2: And so therefore you gotta be able to handle that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And you gotta be able
Speaker 2: to deal with that. And then it's gonna come to
Speaker 2: another level where you won't even spend time together, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And you got to be able
Speaker 2: to be cool with that. So you gotta be able
Speaker 2: to hit You got to be able to know that
Speaker 2: we are bigger than any issue on this level. Until
Speaker 2: I find that woman, then we're good. But we definitely
Speaker 2: have to grow together and have some issues in order
Speaker 2: to grow.
Speaker 1: I heard you talk, and I hear the pain, the
Speaker 1: love and your voice for your mom? Are you looking
Speaker 1: for that and to make you say that was your
Speaker 1: right hand? You say there was a place that you
Speaker 1: could always go and you could lay and it was perfect.
Speaker 1: And you haven't found that in that one person. Are
Speaker 1: you looking for that and to mate?
Speaker 2: So I searched for that love and it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: You know that's unconditional, But so your partner's gonna love
Speaker 1: you under conditions. You don't cheat, you don't hurt me,
Speaker 1: you don't lie to me, you don't do anything. Your
Speaker 1: mom is gonna look, you could do the most heinous.
Speaker 1: She's gonna say, yeah, that boy wrong and he deserved it.
Speaker 1: Whatever happens, but that's my baby. Yes, that's unconditional. I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure outside of the family dynamic you can
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 2: You can't. And you search for it when you miss it.
Speaker 2: When you miss it, that's when you miss it. You
Speaker 2: don't even realize what unconditioned. No one who still has
Speaker 2: their parents even know what unconditional love is. Right now,
Speaker 2: I don't think they know. They just know that they
Speaker 2: love their parents. You know, unconditional love when you no longer,
Speaker 2: when you no longer have that shit, you'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's what that was, and you search for it and
Speaker 2: you can't find it. I've lost women trying to find that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I lost people in my
Speaker 2: life trying to find that, you know. But I also
Speaker 2: lost people in my lives in my life from not
Speaker 2: allowing me to be different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm no longer the same and I never would be
Speaker 2: the same. So any anything that you expect from me
Speaker 2: of how I used to be, and I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I honestly think you selfishly around men for your own
Speaker 2: good because of how I make you feel, But you're
Speaker 2: not willing to convert your feelings towards me, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, So me trying to find that in women,
Speaker 2: I no longer do that. And I admit that I
Speaker 2: think I have done that because I was looking for
Speaker 2: that feeling I couldn't find it, and I accepted the
Speaker 2: fact that that is gone and it's never coming back.
Speaker 2: And so now I feel kind of like the love
Speaker 2: that's there can't compete with that. So I'm not as
Speaker 2: gung hole when I have to. I have to train
Speaker 2: my mind to go that this is a different love
Speaker 2: that you have to invest in and you have to
Speaker 2: build it and grow it and build it to something.
Speaker 2: It would never be this, And you have to stop
Speaker 2: comparing and people who lose people, You have to stop
Speaker 2: comparing loves because you'll be miserable your whole day. You
Speaker 2: have to go, this was that and that's over. Now
Speaker 2: you have to build another kind of love and another
Speaker 2: kind of trust with this person. Then can stop comparing
Speaker 2: and searching for this because you would never you would
Speaker 2: never have this ever again, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so that's that's why I am with it right
Speaker 2: now where I'm like not trying to put that upon
Speaker 2: people and deal with it myself and uh and just
Speaker 2: and just keep it moving. You know.
Speaker 1: Are you willing to change for a woman?
Speaker 2: Yes, I am. I'm willing to change definitely.
Speaker 1: And I and.
Speaker 2: I and I have changed, you know, I've changed totally.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Uh, in my older years, I'm no longer thinking the
Speaker 2: way that I used to think. You know, I used
Speaker 2: to think about career and jokes and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and now my mind is different, you know, I'm older.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about legacy, you know what I'm thinking about,
Speaker 2: you know, kid like setting up you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: my son, making sure my son is straight.
Speaker 1: You know you want more kids? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe I'm not sure. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I met personally, I don't feel like I really want
Speaker 2: to right now. I feel like I'm too old to
Speaker 2: have a kid. And you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: just feel like, you know, I wish I would have
Speaker 2: had more around the same time I had my son.
Speaker 2: But again that's over.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But but you see how
Speaker 1: quick you said you're willing to change. Yeah, majority of
Speaker 1: the women are willing to change. He better accept me
Speaker 1: how I am. You see how quick demand was willing
Speaker 1: you said, I'll be willing to change. Men are always
Speaker 1: asked to change. Women accept me as I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's real and and that's that's a word.
Speaker 2: And look, that's where a lot of disconnect is, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because they're not willing to change
Speaker 2: and play they play their position in a sense. They
Speaker 2: may not because they go, hey, take me as I
Speaker 2: am or not, because that's how everybody else does. They
Speaker 2: take them how they are. When it's like, no, you
Speaker 2: have to you have to make this thing work for
Speaker 2: you. You got to look at how the good in this
Speaker 2: person and see what they can bring, what value they
Speaker 2: can bring, and then work from that. If you really
Speaker 2: think this person can elevate you love wise, money wise, spiritually,
Speaker 2: then invest in this person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Don't don't come with just your ways and your ways
Speaker 2: only and think that this is supposed to happen, because yes,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be some people that will adjust to yours,
Speaker 2: but then they'll be miserable. And can you live with
Speaker 2: that person being miserable in your life? Like, like you
Speaker 2: you don't even want that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to know. If I'm not bringing
Speaker 2: you joy, we shouldn't even be around each other at all.
Speaker 2: I went out with a with a woman who wanted
Speaker 2: a kid, and I told her. I was like, man,
Speaker 2: it was the hardest thing in the world. Where I
Speaker 2: was like, you just gotta I want you to go
Speaker 2: high your kid. You'll find love again, but you gotta go.
Speaker 2: You gotta go high your kid, you know. And it
Speaker 2: was the hardest thing in the world. But I'm the
Speaker 2: type of guy where I'm like, I want you to
Speaker 2: have joy and I want you to live.
Speaker 1: You be mad at me because I denied you the
Speaker 1: ability to be.
Speaker 2: Exactly and I don't want to live with that, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to live with you looking at me
Speaker 2: all day long going you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: so I want you to do whatever it is you
Speaker 2: need to do in order for you to be happy.
Speaker 2: I'm big on if it makes you happy, it don't
Speaker 2: got to make sense whatever it is. If it makes
Speaker 2: you happy, it don't have to make sense whatever your
Speaker 2: situation is. If you got a husband, or you got
Speaker 2: a wife, and y'all got some people on the side,
Speaker 2: and y'all taking care of y'all told you, man, that's
Speaker 2: your business, and you do that as long as it
Speaker 2: makes you happy. It don't have to make sense only
Speaker 2: for you, only to you. Right.
Speaker 1: Where are you on interracial dating?
Speaker 2: I think nowadays, man, there's so much shit to like
Speaker 2: worry about in the world. Why would you care about
Speaker 2: who dating who you know? But me personally? Like what
Speaker 2: I date outside my race, I don't think so, No,
Speaker 2: not at all, Like not like being a full blown
Speaker 2: relationship like that. I'm not saying that I wouldn't. I
Speaker 2: don't know what to happen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Anytime I say I won't do something.
Speaker 1: It happens I lead this interview.
Speaker 2: I've walked down the street with the white woman right
Speaker 2: out of this interview. Look what you're doing. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I said, I will, and that's why I got her
Speaker 2: right now because I said so. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like again, if it makes you happy nowadays, go
Speaker 2: with it, Like I'm just all about people having enjoyed
Speaker 2: because there's so many haters out here. There's so many
Speaker 2: people that disrespect you. It's so much hate. There's so
Speaker 2: much hate online comments, all that shit. It's just hatred.
Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, whatever makes you happy, just go
Speaker 2: do that shit, Go do that ship, Go get happy
Speaker 2: and get out the way, because these motherfuckers are here
Speaker 2: to destroy you. They don't care what it is. They
Speaker 2: are gonna leed negative comments. I just don't. I don't
Speaker 2: get how they are right now in the world, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. One day I looked at Dwayne
Speaker 2: Wade page. Dude, I could the hatred that's on that
Speaker 2: man's page.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's that man's really they want the man
Speaker 1: to disown this child, that's your child. How did that?
Speaker 1: What does that affect you?
Speaker 2: Bru it's the most weirdest shit in the world. And
Speaker 2: why do you think your opinion matters? I feel like
Speaker 2: this ain't no fortune. Five hundred motherfucker leaving no bad
Speaker 2: comment nobody because they ain't gonna fuck up their own shit.
Speaker 2: And it ain't got time to leave negative comments. It
Speaker 2: ain't something positive or something you want to leave out
Speaker 2: that then why would you leave that? So anybody leave
Speaker 2: a negative comment? No, you showing, you showing your economic situation.
Speaker 2: You should not be doing that shit.
Speaker 1: If you don't like what this man or this woman
Speaker 1: hath going on their life? Why are you following them?
Speaker 2: Why you It's so this how fucked up everybody is.
Speaker 2: They will follow a motherfucker they do not like, just
Speaker 2: to see what this motherfucker do every day. And fuck
Speaker 2: they hold they up, Yes, they hold baby fucked up.
Speaker 2: Were looking at what this person do. What all you
Speaker 2: gotta do is unfollow.
Speaker 1: I name the person, get it. Then name the person
Speaker 1: that don't like a particular food, but theyn go to
Speaker 1: that restaurant to eat. Name So you don't like this person,
Speaker 1: why are you following them?
Speaker 2: Why are you fining? And it's so bizarre, That's what
Speaker 2: I mean it's like the hatred and they want to
Speaker 2: keep up with what that person is doing, and they
Speaker 2: feel like they want to see what they do. It's
Speaker 2: so bizarre. People be on my page and they be
Speaker 2: like leaving the nastiest ship, and I'd be like, why
Speaker 2: do you what do you think? What do you want
Speaker 2: me to do about your comment? And I never met
Speaker 2: you a day in my life? Right, what do you
Speaker 2: want me to do about that shit? There's nothing I
Speaker 2: can do about it. I don't even know you. I
Speaker 2: told you, man, I'm telling you Like Martin Luther King
Speaker 2: and them, they couldn't have had pages. Hell no, they
Speaker 2: couldn't have page. They couldn't have pages. It's like it's
Speaker 2: like you you have a device where you can touch
Speaker 2: someone that you admire.
Speaker 1: You could talk to them. That didn't happen on Iday,
Speaker 1: No did it? You can talk to We never had that.
Speaker 1: We never had that kind of action, couldn't do.
Speaker 2: You can talk to James or Jones and you can
Speaker 2: do that. Now you have you have the ability to
Speaker 2: reach out to who inspires you, and you your time
Speaker 2: to be yes, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Why didn't you ask them some economics ship or.
Speaker 1: Howah the business or ask them about relationship advice or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know, and I think the best
Speaker 1: I just want to throw this out there.
Speaker 2: The best relationship care that you can have is watching
Speaker 2: a stand up special. I just want to throw that
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Have you ever did that?
Speaker 2: And I ain't even just saying mine, but have you
Speaker 2: ever watched the sand stand up special with a woman? And?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And what the comic was talking about, y'all discuss because
Speaker 2: they'll talk about relationshipship right. Yeah, it's great. Any couple
Speaker 2: should watch the stand up special in there that helped
Speaker 2: that situation. I just want to throw that out there.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I heard you had a bad experience with
Speaker 1: a threesome in Atlanta. What made you experience? What made
Speaker 1: you want to try that?
Speaker 2: Well, one of the girls was in the NBA, the
Speaker 2: w NBA, and that was kind of odd. Okay, I
Speaker 2: talked about it in my special.
Speaker 1: I know you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a real situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We Uh.
Speaker 2: This girl was like, yeah, yeah, I want to get
Speaker 2: down with you and I was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like I want to get down with
Speaker 1: you too.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, She's like, I'm gonna call my girl up.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, whoa.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, let's go to the room. We go
Speaker 2: to the room, and she walked in that mouter fact.
Speaker 2: She was like six five hooper hooper hooper, like knee
Speaker 2: bandy Jones. She came in there like what's happening? What
Speaker 2: we're doing?
Speaker 1: And I was like, see see that ain't me. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Never thought I'm old school, dug. I like
Speaker 1: my women like basketball one on one, one on one.
Speaker 1: You never had no, no, no, why my attention span
Speaker 1: ain't too long? What I need to focus on this right?
Speaker 1: What I got right here? Okay, I'm right here.
Speaker 2: So really, never have you ever been approached? Yeah and
Speaker 2: you turned it down? Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah me. I think the biggest thing is because I'm
Speaker 1: afraid because really, prior to becoming who I was who
Speaker 1: I am now, I mighta would have done it, but
Speaker 1: I had already started to become a known commodity. And
Speaker 1: the last things I say to nah, it ain't it ain't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it ain't worth it. So I have to be I
Speaker 1: have to be careful of certain situations now. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I like, man, I'm trying to be because you hear
Speaker 1: people talk about it.
Speaker 2: So look if the woman that you deal with, if
Speaker 2: she came to you, it's like, man, I got a
Speaker 2: young lady that I want to join us this evening
Speaker 2: and you trust her, Yeah, you wouldn't do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what all do? No I would. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: No. I wouldn't say do it just with anybody, but
Speaker 2: I would say that do it with some people that
Speaker 2: you trust and that y'all you know, y'all know each
Speaker 2: other and you know it's good.
Speaker 1: But man, this is I got total vision. I have
Speaker 1: a singular focus. Yeah, I got the task in hand.
Speaker 2: I got it and and I'm all about that too,
Speaker 2: absolutely focused.
Speaker 1: Because somebody gonn get left out?
Speaker 2: Three threesome, Like would you be jealous if that's probably
Speaker 2: what it is? Wouldn't want to see them.
Speaker 1: Get downe they didn't do whatever? But I like, you
Speaker 1: don't answer me like that ain't not even that's never
Speaker 1: been my thing though it ain't never there ain't never
Speaker 1: been my bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I focused on one person definitely, But if
Speaker 2: the situation a right and it and and it work out,
Speaker 2: because I've turned down that ship a gazillion times. But
Speaker 2: the situations that has happened where I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is cool, you know, and it worked out and
Speaker 2: it was and it was beautiful, and I've had it
Speaker 2: where it wasn't beautiful. Yeah, it was like you know,
Speaker 2: it was like two girls they just left me out.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, that wall, I don't even take that. I'm waiting.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to get tapped in, like.
Speaker 1: Hold man, now, come on that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to every every ain't like get I'm trying
Speaker 2: you get to double that, you get ready. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, let me go get on my phone.
Speaker 1: Fucking what I think you're in your special laws where
Speaker 1: women younger women called an older man mister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. That's an eye opening, ain't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm at the age that used to be older.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was I was a teenager who
Speaker 1: it was old.
Speaker 2: Old old, No, no, no, I mean that's an eye opener.
Speaker 2: That's why I name my special that. Okay, mister, it's
Speaker 2: like that simple phrase, That simple phrase sums up everything
Speaker 2: about you when you're getting older. When the woman goes
Speaker 2: okay or a young lady goes okay, mister or mister,
Speaker 2: you know what time it is or sir? And then
Speaker 2: that shiit you like, oh my god, I'm the chaperone
Speaker 2: in the party. You just be like Joah, I gotta
Speaker 2: get out of here. I gotta go.
Speaker 1: How has it been for you dealing with inevitable you're
Speaker 1: becoming older?
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's something else, you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's like the women are like, wow that like
Speaker 2: the older women they wow, now Jack, Oh, the ones
Speaker 2: that been married for thirty years, twenty years finally divorced.
Speaker 2: I ain't had nobody else but him. Oh they out here,
Speaker 2: they are here strong, they like, yeah, oh yeah, they
Speaker 2: out here, Like wow, what about I'm young one to
Speaker 2: see the young ones, the young ones not to you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: You know what's the cut off? What's the cutoff? I mean,
Speaker 1: you won't go below.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight?
Speaker 1: Too low? I think thirty two thirty five.
Speaker 2: They got to have an older spirit. If their spirit
Speaker 2: is older than then then I'm cool, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like they're very mature and cool, then cool.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what I
Speaker 2: kind of look for. Just how mature you and how
Speaker 2: do you hold your own or whatever. But you can't
Speaker 2: be having no future posters hanging up on your wall
Speaker 2: and ship like kind of Amigo's posters.
Speaker 1: So there is there an age that's too young for
Speaker 1: the Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Like twenty three, twenty twenty five. Yeah, like that's that's
Speaker 2: young man.
Speaker 1: I thought you were supposed to go happen. I thought
Speaker 1: you're supposed to go half your age plus seventh?
Speaker 2: Who told you that?
Speaker 1: I thought that was your grandma said, really, I thought
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna havelf your age plus seventh, I
Speaker 2: ain't never heard that in my life, half your age
Speaker 2: plus seven? Yes, sow twenty five, thirty to thirty two?
Speaker 2: I've never heard that. What's the plus seven for?
Speaker 1: That's your cutoff? So half your age? You fifty right? Right?
Speaker 1: Plus seven? Thirty two, so you'll cut off you'll be
Speaker 1: thirty two. So anything from thirty two moving forward you good?
Speaker 1: I mean thirty Why are you adding seven? If they
Speaker 1: about to be thirty one? If they're about to be
Speaker 1: thirty two or a couple of months, that'd be good too.
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, why do you why do you
Speaker 1: add to that was just the thing. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't.
Speaker 2: You add five or nine? Why is it seven? I
Speaker 2: just old her saying, oh, that's some of the Southern
Speaker 2: sh you grew up, which is cool. I ain't at
Speaker 2: the South.
Speaker 1: But but why is why is it that people get
Speaker 1: upset the older men that date younger women. Have you
Speaker 1: dealt with that?
Speaker 2: Man, I've seen it happen a lot of times. I
Speaker 2: just know, I don't know me personally, I like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's got some type of connect it's got to be
Speaker 2: some type of almost connecting with struggle, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. You're trying to get that out the park.
Speaker 2: I don't know that park. I'm like, I can't, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Like, yes, I would be lying if I
Speaker 2: didn't say that I dealt with I've had dealings with
Speaker 2: younger women before, but even then, I just was like,
Speaker 2: you know, just it just it was something that just
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of odd. But like I
Speaker 2: said that, they act very very much. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: all love or whatever, you know, but not now if
Speaker 2: they like selfie in and and like I can't, man, no,
Speaker 2: I'm out of there. If I see all that should happened,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 1: Will get that self away. There was this viral video
Speaker 1: that you posted. I think you had on some bail
Speaker 1: bottom gen oh shit, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you and you come out with the bill bottom jeans.
Speaker 1: Then it seems to be a thing now because everybody,
Speaker 1: even even dress slacks, have a little wider bottom. Every
Speaker 1: seems like everything goes back to the seventies because that
Speaker 1: was the thing in the seventies everybody had, why everybody had,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, dion Gate. Dude.
Speaker 2: It was the wildest shit ever. I was just on
Speaker 2: some James Brown shit. The whole outfit looked like James
Speaker 2: war that he did wear, and I was just like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm like this this is dope, you know. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm a rock this shit and wore that shit, man,
Speaker 2: And I don't know why that shit went out the gate.
Speaker 2: To this day, I still don't understand that shit. I
Speaker 2: lost jobs I had people could come into my shows.
Speaker 2: I'm what, man, because of my outfit. I had a
Speaker 2: woman tell me one time she was like, man, I
Speaker 2: wish I could come to your show. And my boyfriend
Speaker 2: was like, I'm You're not going to that gaya ass
Speaker 2: niggas show like and because you people stopped fucking with me,
Speaker 2: even people in the business, they stopped fucking with me
Speaker 2: over that. And I just could not believe that ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, over outfit, but here go to
Speaker 2: he go to il shit. Henry Styles from from One Direction.
Speaker 2: He wore the same suit maybe a month later praised him.
Speaker 2: He was in GQ magazine with the same not a
Speaker 2: version the same because it was a Gucci suit different.
Speaker 2: I get that, but still in awe. He was praised
Speaker 2: and won awards for wearing that suit. And it's like,
Speaker 2: it's almost like your people, our people there they're ship
Speaker 2: on some ship and don't have nothing to replace it with, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, get your ass out of here and
Speaker 2: fucking not not to replace it with instead of looking
Speaker 2: at it like, man, this brother's just doing his thing
Speaker 2: or yo he he he wear some ship from the past,
Speaker 2: because that's all it was.
Speaker 1: And they just everybody winning fire Ohio.
Speaker 2: Body wore that.
Speaker 1: Kelly pendergra Band, Marvin Gay you named.
Speaker 2: To this day, people bring that shit up. That's It's
Speaker 2: everything that I've done in my career. That was like
Speaker 2: the most monumental ship and it's only with black folks.
Speaker 2: Ain't a white person yet came to me and talk
Speaker 2: to me about my bold bottoms. But you know who
Speaker 2: hired me white folks when black folks wasn't even hot
Speaker 2: one fucking with me. I was doing all white white shows,
Speaker 2: TV shows and all that, still getting my money, quietly,
Speaker 2: quietly getting my money and getting it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But black folks, man, I wasn't gonna know best,
Speaker 2: stress less, sexiest black man, most successful. How can you have?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I had hit at You know how hard it is
Speaker 2: to have a hit TV show. It's like lightning, No, no,
Speaker 2: the bottom you had like one, two three. I had
Speaker 2: like three hit shows, Grownish, Blackish, Andy, trop Becker. I
Speaker 2: had all these shows, hitch his shows and couldn't present,
Speaker 2: couldn't present on no award shows, wasn't a part of nothing.
Speaker 2: Nobody invite me to no parties. And still to this day,
Speaker 2: I don't go to that shit because don't nobody fuck
Speaker 2: with me like that, you know, And it's like it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's like the national commercial movies, all that shit, anything
Speaker 2: that any other more than a lot of what other
Speaker 2: motherfuckers got going on that's invited to these ships. And
Speaker 2: I'm saying that I need to go to this, but
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like to have these conversations with these
Speaker 2: guys in and me. I think it all stemmed from
Speaker 2: from those fans. After those fans, it was, it was,
Speaker 2: it was down. It was down ever since then, all
Speaker 2: the way into all the way into now. And I
Speaker 2: just never understood that. I never understood why my own
Speaker 2: people would do that shit to me. What it is?
Speaker 1: Why why are we so willing to attach that to
Speaker 1: our celebrities, our prominent figures in our community.
Speaker 2: Well I think they. I think if I had to guess,
Speaker 2: I would think that they was like, Yo, we look
Speaker 2: up to you, and if you're being you're looking gay
Speaker 2: or promiscuous, then yo, then then then you let us down.
Speaker 1: If the joke is funny, can I not sing it? Mean?
Speaker 2: Man? My ticket sales shot down after that. I couldn't
Speaker 2: sell out a room because of those goddamn pants.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like I wasn't funny or nothing like that,
Speaker 2: but you know what, it was a group of people
Speaker 2: who was like, man, fuck go you funny, We respect you,
Speaker 2: we love you. And they rocked with me, and I
Speaker 2: just kept going at the pace that I went. All
Speaker 2: those that hated on me, that shit got old, and
Speaker 2: the new audience came and they was like, no, this
Speaker 2: motherfucker's dope. So all these motherfuckers that hated on me,
Speaker 2: they went to the wayside, and a whole nother audience
Speaker 2: is up there, you know what I mean, the whole
Speaker 2: new people, people that love me, and and I fucked
Speaker 2: with them, you know what I mean. And those that
Speaker 2: did that shit, that shit was hurtful. Man, that ship
Speaker 2: I mean, oh man, that shit fuck with me. More
Speaker 2: so it was my people. It was my people that
Speaker 2: was doing that. There wasn't no other races. It was
Speaker 2: my people that was like, yo, but it shouldn't bother you.
Speaker 2: I was like, why you saying it? So give me,
Speaker 2: give me, give give me the reason. So what do
Speaker 2: you hope to accomplish by that?
Speaker 1: It seemed like you wanted me to become successful because
Speaker 1: y'all rock with when when I was on Undisputed, you
Speaker 1: called me unk and everything. Then I got these shows
Speaker 1: outside of Undisputed, I'm on now all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they saying that shit about you,
Speaker 2: And look, that's that's all they because they looking for
Speaker 2: something to hate on you about. They looking for something
Speaker 2: that they can bring you down one and all of that,
Speaker 2: and then who's to say that gay is bringing down
Speaker 2: as that negative?
Speaker 1: I look, it's the.
Speaker 2: Weirdest ship in the world. It's like, man, it's like
Speaker 2: it's I don't I don't know what it is, man,
Speaker 2: And I'm quite sure some righteous brother out there is
Speaker 2: gonna be watching this and let me explain, I ain't teacher, brother,
Speaker 2: and it's like, Nah, don't have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: You still have to be human. You still gotta treat
Speaker 2: people with respect, regardless of what they're into. All day long.
Speaker 2: Your opinion don't matter, and you should look at your opinion.
Speaker 2: You should look at all the opinions that you motherfuckers
Speaker 2: be leaving. Which one made you rich or healthier? None
Speaker 2: of them? So why you still leaving the motherfuckers? Because
Speaker 2: your spirit is fucked up and you constantly want to
Speaker 2: just fuck over people and make them feel just as
Speaker 2: miserable as you doing shit, and they.
Speaker 1: Do that shit.
Speaker 2: But now you look out, everybody wearing ball bottoms, everybody
Speaker 2: wearing them shits. They everywhere they wearing the motherfuckers and
Speaker 2: videos and everything, and ain't nobody talking shit about them,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody talking about but coming out the gate, you
Speaker 2: make these fashion choices and you either the hottest shit
Speaker 2: moving or you burn, you know, but you gotta take
Speaker 2: those risks. And so therefore I just I took a risk,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna keep taking risk. I'm gonna keep doing
Speaker 2: what I do and rocking what I rock whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: and and I'm not gonna worry about them. I think,
Speaker 2: why where I fucked up was.
Speaker 1: I respond and they told you don't respond.
Speaker 2: Yep, and I respond that and I shouldn't respond to
Speaker 2: that ship, you know, But I ain't have no pr
Speaker 2: team at the time and no shit like that, and
Speaker 2: I don't now, but I do know, and I'm just like,
Speaker 2: you know, just let people think whatever you want to think.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was that was.
Speaker 1: That was because people gonna think. But people gonna think. Look,
Speaker 1: they were just looking for a reason because because here's
Speaker 1: the thing, I don't know how many people they're like, well,
Speaker 1: because they've never seen I don't really post so and
Speaker 1: I don't go on ig live. And the back to
Speaker 1: the think I'm like, so, let me get this right.
Speaker 1: The first time I've ever been on IG live. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna post. You've never seen me post anything
Speaker 1: I have, but I think there's one picture you might
Speaker 1: find on the internet with me, and that was from
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen years ago. But because I don't post, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm very private. Yeah, you don't need to you don't
Speaker 1: need to know what I'm doing. Me too, I'm the
Speaker 1: same way. I'm private as hell. Like I don't be putting.
Speaker 1: I don't be throwing shit out there like that. I
Speaker 1: put out there.
Speaker 2: Work ship, whatever, workout video, work a ship like that.
Speaker 2: But then that's about it, not none of none of
Speaker 2: my personal ship. But I just think that if there's
Speaker 2: something with black men or black women and gay that
Speaker 2: hasn't been resolved, then people don't want you to live
Speaker 2: and be you. It's like it's almost like they want
Speaker 2: everybody to be the same, right, And it's like, an't
Speaker 2: y'all ain't y'all bored with just the same ship? Like
Speaker 2: Lenny Kravis is refreshing to me, that motherfucker go out
Speaker 2: there and net shirt and some leather shorts and this guitar.
Speaker 2: That motherfucker be rocking, and every woman in that motherfucker
Speaker 2: waiting lined up together put dion.
Speaker 1: The way I look at it is that what somebody eats,
Speaker 1: what someone dresses, like, what someone are in their private life,
Speaker 1: how does that impact me? It doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's I mean my life. It doesn't. And if you
Speaker 2: consume with your life while you consume with others, yes,
Speaker 2: that lets me know your life ain't that interesting. It's
Speaker 2: not for you to leave a negative comment, for you
Speaker 2: to say something, for you to sit back and be like,
Speaker 2: I'm gay. I'm missed something that in the third you
Speaker 2: didne just missed out on breaking bread with me. You
Speaker 2: didnet missed out on we could have been breaking bread together. Instead,
Speaker 2: you rather go I'm gay rather than go, hey, man,
Speaker 2: fuck that. I got you over here. These motherfuckers talk
Speaker 2: shit about you. I got you the fucked out and
Speaker 2: I'm going man, good looking dog. I appreciate that. What
Speaker 2: city you in? Atlanta? When I come down there, brother,
Speaker 2: we're gonna hang out. We're gonna die da da and
Speaker 2: we're gonna break bread. And now we now we now
Speaker 2: we're not we now we breaking bread?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Instead of you leaving your negative ass comment you fucking
Speaker 2: your chances up. So it's been many times people in
Speaker 2: the left of Good comment my page and I've been like, oh,
Speaker 2: man or man, I can't afford to get you your show.
Speaker 2: I got you. I'll give you tickets, come on through
Speaker 2: or whatever. And they come through and we take pictures
Speaker 2: and hang out and you know what I mean, just
Speaker 2: being nice, But your negative shit, it don't get you nowhere.
Speaker 2: It gets you a bunch of people that's negative, like
Speaker 2: you saying, ah, good one, and then where does that go?
Speaker 2: What money are you getting from that comment?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Nothing, And it's it's it's it's a bizarre world that's
Speaker 2: going on with that.
Speaker 1: Because you write you wrote a letter of Willi Lynch's
Speaker 1: letter where you compare your experience to Willie Lynch's letter.
Speaker 1: Why did you feel you needed to write that letter.
Speaker 2: Because I just felt like I felt like, again, like
Speaker 2: I said, black people are notorious for building up their
Speaker 2: own and then tear them down, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Nobody's like reprimending you or going hey, we understand what
Speaker 2: happened or or or or that was a mistake or okay, cool, whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's it's just it's there's no leadership
Speaker 2: with us, you know what I mean? It's no, it's
Speaker 2: no place if another race says something fucked up about us,
Speaker 2: there's nobody to answer to. Is it if you say
Speaker 2: something about like a Jewish community or something that they
Speaker 2: have a community that you have to go talk to, Yes,
Speaker 2: that you have to. Yeah, donate money, talk to, tell
Speaker 2: me you understand, learn their culture.
Speaker 1: It's guaranteed that it's gonna ever be back what it was.
Speaker 2: Let somebody say something about us, who they'd have got
Speaker 2: an answer to? No, nobody nothing. We split it ourselves
Speaker 2: because we split our goddamn self. So how much unity
Speaker 2: do I do you expect for me to have when
Speaker 2: you're saying all these things? Or what kind of unity
Speaker 2: do you think that we're gonna we're gonna have by
Speaker 2: you saying negative comments all the time. You know, we
Speaker 2: should be policing ourselves in a sense if somebody do
Speaker 2: something wrong, we should be able to grab our own
Speaker 2: and go yo yo yo yo. Yeah he said that,
Speaker 2: but we got them take them to the NAACP. The
Speaker 2: n douale A CP office to me, should be a
Speaker 2: place where we go and we correct things and do everything.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be for just award show ship and all that.
Speaker 2: This should be your headquarters. That should be up in
Speaker 2: every goddamn city that we can go to and have
Speaker 2: a place for refuge or where we can go hang
Speaker 2: out and talk and have conversations about certain things. Correct
Speaker 2: our own, deal with our own, had talked to our own.
Speaker 2: If somebody do something and I shun away from them,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. There's a lot of black
Speaker 2: folks who be in situations and everybody get away from them.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody be around, Don't nobody talk to him. Don't
Speaker 2: I even know nothing? And I'm sick of that. I
Speaker 2: think that we should be like, yeah, he fucked up,
Speaker 2: but we got him. We got him. Hey, rest of
Speaker 2: the word. He said sorry, he already said sorry, motherfuckers,
Speaker 2: we got him. Come on, man, I know what I
Speaker 2: mean to take them and take them back and talk
Speaker 2: to him, and we don't have that.
Speaker 1: You know that. What I learned over the last year
Speaker 1: and a half is that. And my sister told me this.
Speaker 1: He says, Shannon, do you actually think you could have
Speaker 1: risen to the heights you've risen with our people looking
Speaker 1: like you? She's like, yeah, they're gonna be a few
Speaker 1: that's gonna say things that's gonna be jealous, gonna be envious,
Speaker 1: that's gonna dislike you. But the majority of the people
Speaker 1: that look like they got you, He said, how you
Speaker 1: get that name on? White people? Didn't give you that name.
Speaker 1: Your community gave you that name, and it means something.
Speaker 1: And I had to learn. The people that rock with me,
Speaker 1: I rock with them, and I'm the same way and
Speaker 1: the people that don't rock with me. Because you know
Speaker 1: what my grandfather said did, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: He said, the devil will never show up as the
Speaker 1: devil because if he did, you wouldn't do to deal
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't do the deal.
Speaker 1: With your enemy. Will never show up as the enemy
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't allowed me in your.
Speaker 2: Sorce and say that word, man, say that goddamn word.
Speaker 1: So now, yes, we gotta be careful everybody that was
Speaker 1: in your sir, because you learn a lot as you
Speaker 1: start to go here and they don't go with you.
Speaker 2: God, the devil's the devil's best attribute is pretending he
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. To your point, that's the exactly what thing
Speaker 2: what it is, and you have to know that that
Speaker 2: devil is out yeah, for sure, and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: out there. With everything that you do, that devil is
Speaker 2: going to be there, and you got to be able
Speaker 2: to to fill that out and maneuver properly, prayer fully
Speaker 2: until you can get out that situation or you deal
Speaker 2: with that situation.
Speaker 1: Because when I look at the comments like on club,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody leaving those? Ain't nobody leaving that? On Nightcap?
Speaker 1: My people, my community, they rock with me. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: if I post something on my own thing that's like,
Speaker 1: y'all follow me just to leave that. Yeah, yeah, y'all. Y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all don't even like Nightcap. Y'all don't like Club Sha Shae.
Speaker 1: So y'all don't even come on to pay y'all y'all
Speaker 1: like I don't even want to give no mules. I
Speaker 1: don't even think anything like that. But I was like, man,
Speaker 1: there got to be something better in your life.
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with my people, man, my
Speaker 2: fam that follow me. I know my fam, my family
Speaker 2: that follow me. When when I do stand up, the
Speaker 2: shows be sold out and people be there. I know
Speaker 2: the love I feel that it's a different love during
Speaker 2: that bail Bottom shit, this is a whole nother This
Speaker 2: is a whole nother family. Yeah, God, yeah, I love
Speaker 2: and the Mayah. They beat, they dead when I'm DJing,
Speaker 2: They there when I'm do movies, they there when I
Speaker 2: do whatever. And I feel that love and this is
Speaker 2: and I'm so glad the group of people, the hatred
Speaker 2: that that was there. It's so it's so small, it's
Speaker 2: so small, it's so.
Speaker 1: All y'all in the room together, couldn't feel it.
Speaker 2: B but but but but see, our minds be kind
Speaker 2: of fucked up, yes, because we would read through ten
Speaker 2: thousand comments. It'd be that one comment that'll fuck your
Speaker 2: whole day up, you know what I mean. It used
Speaker 2: to be like that. Now I don't allow that shit
Speaker 2: that you absolutely right, I don't lie that shit.
Speaker 1: Go to a stadium. There could be eighty thousand fans
Speaker 1: in that stadium. Seventy thousand, seventy nine thousand of them
Speaker 1: are for you. Yeah, but you'll hear that one thousand
Speaker 1: that booths.
Speaker 2: You'll hear and and nothing else is and you can't
Speaker 2: hear ship else but that on the rid.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I do a show.
Speaker 2: And it'd be two thousand and three thousand people that
Speaker 2: it'd be one motherfucker in the front row. I look
Speaker 2: at that nigga all night long, like what your arms
Speaker 2: folded for you? Why you mad? Why are you looking
Speaker 2: so mad?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And you focus on that, but you have to train
Speaker 2: your mind that the energy that But that's how powerful
Speaker 2: that hate is. That hate for one motherfucker is greater
Speaker 2: than a room full of motherfucker. Yeah, and you got
Speaker 2: to know that, and you got to know that. And
Speaker 2: I'm not about to let this.
Speaker 1: Let these people have it on that I'm having a
Speaker 1: great time, a good time.
Speaker 2: And all these other people having a good time. And
Speaker 2: you can, you can, you've gone with that bullshit.
Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to see it firsthand. Oho and
Speaker 1: I for Nightcap. We went on to it with Atlanta,
Speaker 1: Houston and Dallas sold our show. The love the respect
Speaker 1: that I received, I said, Man, you know what, these
Speaker 1: few that got something to say, I ain't even worried
Speaker 1: about I'm worried about it.
Speaker 2: It's non void. It knocks that out, that love that
Speaker 2: you received, that love, it is powerful if it's so
Speaker 2: and it's so necess it's so necessary, it is. And
Speaker 2: I want people to know that your nice comments and
Speaker 2: the stuff you say. Man, for motherfuckers going through what
Speaker 2: they going through. Man, that shit means something. Man. We
Speaker 2: love reading that shit, we love seeing that shit, and
Speaker 2: we love providing that. You know, it's just these negative
Speaker 2: people man, that be on your page. You'd be like, Man,
Speaker 2: I could post something and don't nobody like it. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have fifteen thousand people telling me how fucked up
Speaker 2: I post some positive thirty people be on that motherfucker
Speaker 2: going congratulations, right, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 2: they love the mess. And you got to understand that
Speaker 2: with the social media shit and don't let it fuck
Speaker 2: with you. Don't let it bother you, and you know,
Speaker 2: keep it moving, stay prayed up, and keep your business going.
Speaker 1: In the news the last week or so, these Hollywood parties,
Speaker 1: they've been going back and forth to everybody, the old
Speaker 1: Hollywood party. Are you gonna be what is the Hollywood
Speaker 1: you go to? Thell? Have you been to? What are
Speaker 1: the Hollywood parties?
Speaker 2: Hollywood party?
Speaker 1: Yes? Have you been to these parties that supposedly X
Speaker 1: Y and Z be going on?
Speaker 2: Nah? Man again, I'm not invited to none at all.
Speaker 1: No, you real slow with that.
Speaker 2: I ain't invited to that ship, Like I promise you, man,
Speaker 2: all the cool motherfuckers go out. No, don't nobody call me.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody call me, don't nobody be like, Man, it'd
Speaker 2: be good to have d here. Never had that call, man,
Speaker 2: And and now I'm like cool with it. At first
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, what's the problem. But I don't
Speaker 2: even worry about that shit no more.
Speaker 1: I've never been I've never been a partier. I went
Speaker 1: to one party in college, so as I got older,
Speaker 1: it didn't. So it doesn't bother me. Man, you such
Speaker 1: and such got something. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: It comes I'm working because there's nothing. Really, I don't
Speaker 1: see how what I'm gonna benefit that party to baby
Speaker 1: see buff elbows with some slaves or entertaining. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm past that stage. We're
Speaker 1: going out and being at parties is a thing.
Speaker 2: It's like this. If I go out, there's a reason
Speaker 2: i'm there. If you see me there, there's a reason
Speaker 2: i'm there exactly.
Speaker 1: And know that everything I do is purpose and drive.
Speaker 2: It's purpose driven. Now I'll go to some small ship
Speaker 2: around l a few people. Yeah, and we'll hang out
Speaker 2: a kick it, and that's that's my try, that's my love,
Speaker 2: that's my be in there. We're kicking it.
Speaker 1: A few people ain't no few people at.
Speaker 2: Ain't no pictures, ain't nobody standing on ship and we
Speaker 2: all just grown having a good motherfucking time chilling out,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'll do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: But as far as me sitting back and just partying
Speaker 2: like that, like, nah, I ain't. I ain't even invited
Speaker 2: to that kind of ship.
Speaker 1: You like me, I gotta go. I mean, I gotta
Speaker 1: like really trust the person, like I know he ain't.
Speaker 2: And I've been I've been to parties, I've been to him,
Speaker 2: but you got to go to him to find out
Speaker 2: if you want to keep going to you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been to him. I've been like, you
Speaker 2: know what what am I doing here? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Money?
Speaker 2: Did I make did I mean? My wife? Did I
Speaker 2: get healthier? No? All right, let me get on out
Speaker 2: of here, right.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the PD, the situation P did it. He was
Speaker 1: on an episode of Blackish. Yeah, and you were there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough because I, like I said, I
Speaker 1: met the man one time, standing out in front of
Speaker 1: the mall. He dapped me up. His bodyguard dapped me up.
Speaker 1: That was it. I don't know the man. I don't
Speaker 1: know the man, and so I don't even really feel
Speaker 1: comfortable speaking on the subject because I don't know enough
Speaker 1: about it. I read what they put in the paper
Speaker 1: about the baby oil and all this other stuff. I
Speaker 1: saw the the video with the situation that happened with Cassie,
Speaker 1: and that's But what do you what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any?
Speaker 2: So I'll never kick a man right down, regardless of
Speaker 2: what he did. He just file if it wasn't filed,
Speaker 2: you know, I just keep my mouth closed. I won't
Speaker 2: write no jokes about it. I won't tell nothing, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because I know how that feels,
Speaker 2: whether you right or wrong. I just don't want to
Speaker 2: be in the midst of that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: where I just don't do nothing. But I wrote for him,
Speaker 2: you know the Billboard Awards when you hosted, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was the writer for that right And to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, the times that we had with some of
Speaker 2: the most inspirational moments I ever had with a guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many billionaires you hang out with,
Speaker 2: you know, they slide a little different. They slided a
Speaker 2: little different, you know what I mean. And seeing how
Speaker 2: he got down was so inspirational to me. That and
Speaker 2: that shit was he never that shit was never happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, wasn't all of that shit that everybody talking about.
Speaker 2: But I don't drink the smoke. I don't do none
Speaker 2: of that. I came in, took care business, and then
Speaker 2: it was out. But being at the house and all
Speaker 2: of that, it was never none of that. He always
Speaker 2: had profound fucking work for me, you know. Like I
Speaker 2: remember one time he was like, man, stop spending your
Speaker 2: money on so much materialistic shit. He was like, spend
Speaker 2: your money on things that free up your time. He
Speaker 2: was like, you want to be the freest motherfucker alive.
Speaker 2: He was like, spend your money on drivers, people, clean
Speaker 2: your house, doing these things, because the more time you
Speaker 2: have free and more time you got to think about
Speaker 2: making money and.
Speaker 1: Create and create.
Speaker 2: He was like, so spend your money on that. He
Speaker 2: was like, two hours in traffic, there's three meetings or
Speaker 2: some sleep. He was like, that's how you got to
Speaker 2: look at how to spend your money. And he was
Speaker 2: like also, he said a lot of people hate on
Speaker 2: him a lot, but they had the same He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but they had to say twenty four hours as he did,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, as far as to make moves,
Speaker 2: and which I thought was profound. It was like, right,
Speaker 2: we all had to say twenty four hours. You know.
Speaker 2: He got a jet alledge that, you know, and I'm
Speaker 2: quite sure people make jokes about this, but I'm being
Speaker 2: I'm being for real, like we all have the same
Speaker 2: twenty four hours, you know what I mean, What are
Speaker 2: you gonna do with your twenty four hours? And how
Speaker 2: are you gonna change your family's life within the twenty
Speaker 2: four hours? And that was what I took took away
Speaker 2: from that where it was like, Wow, I want to
Speaker 2: use I want to change and use my twenty four
Speaker 2: hours a little differently than I had before.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so these are things that I because I like
Speaker 2: to learn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I like to learn in the presence of somebody that
Speaker 1: I feel I can learn from them. I look at them,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is before any of that, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, This is before any of any of
Speaker 2: that came out.
Speaker 1: I was just like that.
Speaker 2: So you know when that stuff came out, man, I
Speaker 2: just you know, I mean, I feel for everybody involved, definitely,
Speaker 2: and you know, prayers out to everybody, you know. And
Speaker 2: uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I read that you were that you were at a
Speaker 1: death Jam party and you asked jay Z to take
Speaker 1: a picture with you. He's like, bar all these here.
Speaker 2: Hurt my soul Jack crushed me. Dog J jump out
Speaker 2: of a car. Dog Me and my boy Reggie outside right,
Speaker 2: where's the Depth Jam party? About six SUVs pull up
Speaker 2: and we're like, man, who's this Jay jump out? He's
Speaker 2: gonna walk right up to me.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: How the party were like this? Damn that's Jay? Were
Speaker 2: like shit, that shit popping. He was like, all right, shit,
Speaker 2: I see y'all went there. We're like bad he going there.
Speaker 2: Me and my boy reads high five all that out.
Speaker 2: We're going to party. It's this girl I know in
Speaker 2: there like this and I see J over there chilling
Speaker 2: and ship everybody in there, math red all the death
Speaker 2: Jam artists right, Jay over that chilling vibing out and
Speaker 2: I told her girl, I walked up to her. I
Speaker 2: was like this, hey, take this camera, right, I had
Speaker 2: one of them yellow boys that you.
Speaker 1: I gave her that right.
Speaker 2: I was like, look, I'm gonna go over to J.
Speaker 2: We're gonna dance over here. When I get over here
Speaker 2: and ask her for a picture, just have it ready
Speaker 2: and take it because I don't want him waiting. She
Speaker 2: was like, all right, me and her dance over there. Man,
Speaker 2: I get over there. I was like, hey, J, can
Speaker 2: I get a picture? He was like, man, dog, all
Speaker 2: these roles in and ship. You want to take a
Speaker 2: picture with a nigga? What is wrong with you? I
Speaker 2: was like, I look at that bitch, dance back into you.
Speaker 1: You're like, you're right, You're right, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: I was like this, I just I just wanted a picture.
Speaker 2: He was like, man, no, no. I said, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, thank you mama, and I left again. Didn't
Speaker 2: nobody speak to me in that party? Oh goddamn.
Speaker 1: It's tough in that situation, and I'm not there. But
Speaker 1: like when you go to a bed like that, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of times they they take your phone.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been to places where you put that
Speaker 1: phone in this they put it. Now you go to
Speaker 1: some place like that, they put that phone. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Yeah, all of that.
Speaker 2: This was like nineties. This went ja was like white hot,
Speaker 2: like white hot, just like Jay was everything, you know,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, back then they wasn't like that. Everybody
Speaker 2: had big jerseys on pants and all of that, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a whole different ball game.
Speaker 1: You wrote for comedians. You wrote Ricky Smiley, the prank
Speaker 1: Phone calls Nick Cannon, you work with Cat What when
Speaker 1: you write a joke for another comedian? How do you?
Speaker 1: Because I remember asking, I was talking to somebody and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think it was Snoop and I
Speaker 1: said doctor Dre. No Hoole wrote a song still Dre Dre.
Speaker 1: He wrote that song for doctor Drake. But you got
Speaker 1: to write the song knowing is for him, but it's
Speaker 1: company's coming from you through your creativity. When you write
Speaker 1: a joke, I mean, you got to write the joke
Speaker 1: like this jokes for Ricky, for this joke for Candon,
Speaker 1: this joke for Nick Cannon, this joke can't fordon. How
Speaker 1: do you? How do you separate yourself?
Speaker 2: So the majority of people that I've written for Conan O'Brien,
Speaker 2: all these guys I wrote for Coning for like nine years,
Speaker 2: eight years, when you're writing for these people, these people
Speaker 2: are already characters. Basically, you really don't even have to
Speaker 2: write a joke for them. You just have to pay
Speaker 2: attention to them because they not paying attention to themselves, right,
Speaker 2: So what I like to do, I like to pay
Speaker 2: attention to them and tell them what they just said
Speaker 2: and it's so wild, and then write it in a way
Speaker 2: that they can say it where it's them. Because the
Speaker 2: more you you are, the less rehearsal we're gonna have
Speaker 2: correct And so that's that's my process of writing. It's
Speaker 2: like with Cat, the stuff that I wrote for Cat,
Speaker 2: Cat didn't even use. He ain't using none of that.
Speaker 2: He's just I would just tell all you have to
Speaker 2: do around Cat is go he'll say something. You go
Speaker 2: that's funny, and he'll go huh, and then that'll be it.
Speaker 2: But you wasn't writing for Cat, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It was just he'll be like, oh okay. But other
Speaker 2: people like you, like I would write stuff depending on
Speaker 2: how they how they are, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like Snoop is a character. Yes, you really ain't got
Speaker 2: to write a joke for Snoop. You just gotta have
Speaker 2: Snoop say this in a snoop way, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And then you got gold you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And so that's that's that's how it really
Speaker 2: was like writing for all these people, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like just looking at how they are and having them
Speaker 2: organize what they should say in a way that they
Speaker 2: should say it. And yeah, I was always blessed to
Speaker 2: write for people like that.
Speaker 1: Obviously I had Kat on at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: Yes you did. People still talking about that. It's now
Speaker 1: at over seventy six million US Jesus and a lot
Speaker 1: caught a lot of criticism because the things that Kat
Speaker 1: said and they said I should have. I was like,
Speaker 1: when people come on, I have no idea. It's not like,
Speaker 1: let's just say for the sake of argument, I was
Speaker 1: going to interview a political figure. I have the questions.
Speaker 1: Now I have also fact check situation. If they say X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z, I would say, would know this, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I had the president President Trump, if
Speaker 1: I had VP Madam VP Kamla Harris, I can be
Speaker 1: able to fact check. But when I'm asking him a question, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what you're gonna say exactly. You don't.
Speaker 1: Do you believe I bear culpability for what people say
Speaker 1: on my platform?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. You're providing a platform for people to talk.
Speaker 2: It's so, I mean, I we're in the era right now.
Speaker 1: I ain't.
Speaker 2: Man, I've never seen these many motherfuckers talk in my life.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers is talking right on everything, y'all. I mean everything
Speaker 2: you turn on, some motherfuckers is talking. So you can't
Speaker 2: control what these people are saying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But you did kick some shit off where now everyone's
Speaker 2: gonna say anything and everything. I think in order to.
Speaker 1: Like try to that virus, try to get that.
Speaker 2: Viral moment, and you see it happening, and it's just
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. It was what y'all had wash
Speaker 2: what I like to call just a moment in time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a moment in times. You were very just
Speaker 2: asking questions like you would do. He answered the way
Speaker 2: that he answered, and the stuff that that was the
Speaker 2: tripped out thing too, the things Kat was saying that
Speaker 2: was like a lot of it. He said it before,
Speaker 2: said the ship a gazillion times. I don't know why
Speaker 2: that ship took off the way it did. Because he
Speaker 2: didn't said it a gazillion times, but you I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't know everybody just oh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I think maybe he hasn't said it in a
Speaker 2: while and that's and that's what happened or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I just think that the situations is I really,
Speaker 2: I really don't understand that. But I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think that you were responsible for his answers. That's that's
Speaker 2: that's that's foolish.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of a lot of it had
Speaker 1: to do with is that what he did was peel
Speaker 1: the scale back, or he peeled a layer back and
Speaker 1: let you see because I didn't know that comedians that
Speaker 1: this many comedians that h I don't like him and
Speaker 1: he don't like me, and he don't like her, and bump,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't. I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people because I think you guys did a great job.
Speaker 1: I don't know your relationship with all the comedians. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many and so many good ones, your relationship
Speaker 1: with those. But I think he peeled a layer back
Speaker 1: and let people see the underbelly of the workings of
Speaker 1: how it is in comedy and everybody ain't buddy buddy.
Speaker 1: Although look, we're trying to get everybody to.
Speaker 2: Laugh, and everybody ain't buddy buddy, I mean, and hasn't been.
Speaker 2: It's a few comics out there right now that it's
Speaker 2: just one comic. Man, I don't care what I do.
Speaker 2: This motherfucker got a problem with me every goddamn time.
Speaker 2: I don't care, to the point where I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: what is your problem?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: Why every time I even show up? Why do you
Speaker 2: even think I'm thinking about you? Yes, I'm not even
Speaker 2: thinking about you. But there's issues that comics have and
Speaker 2: they have their own read like you got comedians now
Speaker 2: that don't like younger comics because they got it so quick.
Speaker 2: You got older comics that that refused to move out
Speaker 2: the way that don't want to accept that. Yo. They
Speaker 2: not keeping it moving no more, They not writing no more,
Speaker 2: they not doing artists and trying to blame other people.
Speaker 2: The game has changed. It's a it's a different ballgame.
Speaker 2: But you can't be mad at them. So everybody's mad
Speaker 2: at everybody for some goddamn reason, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's like that's never going to change. What Cat did.
Speaker 2: He just put it out there, whether it was true
Speaker 2: or false.
Speaker 1: He just put out what he It was his truth.
Speaker 1: It was his true At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's nothing nothing.
Speaker 2: Nobody can nobody can change that. And you all you
Speaker 2: did was ask the question. So no, you know Cat,
Speaker 2: And I think Cat knew what he was doing too.
Speaker 2: I knew Cat Cat. Cat knew exactly what he's doing
Speaker 2: when he came on your show because Cat don't do podcasts.
Speaker 1: No he doesn't, he don't, so he knew what he
Speaker 1: was doing. I've been trying. I had been trying to
Speaker 1: line Cat up for over a year and Cat doesn't fly.
Speaker 1: Cat took the tour bus and he wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be on this side of town. And I told a
Speaker 1: story that I went to my lawyer's office on a
Speaker 1: Friday and as the door opens up, I'm getting off,
Speaker 1: there's this young lady about to get on. She's like, hey, Shanna,
Speaker 1: how you doing. I was like, hey, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know you. She's like, you come here.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, my Marvin. Marvin is my agent. She
Speaker 1: said I didn't know that. I said, I've ever seen you.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, he's been there for like three or
Speaker 1: four years. She said, it's funny. She said, today is
Speaker 1: my last day. I said really, I said, well, congratulations,
Speaker 1: I hope. I said, so what do you be? On
Speaker 1: my man? Asking what are you going to do? She says,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the executive assistant to Cat Williams.
Speaker 1: I said, I've been trying to get Cat for over
Speaker 1: a year. This was a Friday. The following Thursday, Cats
Speaker 1: sitting in my chair.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: The following Thursday, we're doing the CJ. He was my producer,
Speaker 1: and I remember when we wrapped the interview. CJ is
Speaker 1: shaking his head. So I covered my like.
Speaker 2: What I was like, did I say something to d
Speaker 2: say something?
Speaker 1: And he's telling me it's gonna break the internet. We're
Speaker 1: hoping to get ten. I say, you think you'll do
Speaker 1: ten minute? He's like, yeah, he gonna do ten. He said, nah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna do twenty. I say twenty million. I said nobody.
Speaker 1: I said, look, only Joe Rogan is doing sit Down.
Speaker 1: They get twenty million views. Nobody else man, I said,
Speaker 1: come on, CJ. He said, I'm telling you shall He said,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be talked about all of twenty four.
Speaker 1: So we drop it that Wednesday, and I'm looking and
Speaker 1: I call him. I sayd CJ, do you see how
Speaker 1: many people are watching in the chat? He said, nah,
Speaker 1: how many? I say seventy thousand, and then it jumps
Speaker 1: to ninety, then it jumps to one ten, so we
Speaker 1: get to like one thirty. I said, so, c J,
Speaker 1: how many do you think it's gonna do? He says
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be big. I say, CJ, re what.
Speaker 1: Look it got to like we did twenty four million
Speaker 1: views in like two days. And so CJ starts looking.
Speaker 1: CJ's like, okay, the record. I mean somebody had like
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan had two he had wanted like forty fifty
Speaker 1: million or another like fifty seven fifty eight million.
Speaker 2: I said, CJ, you think we can get that.
Speaker 1: He's like, yes, go break that. I said, come on, CJ.
Speaker 1: CJ said yeah, geez. And it did seventy six million
Speaker 1: views in eight months. That is razy. I never would
Speaker 1: have imagined it. And like I said, when he started talking,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm just asking what I do.
Speaker 1: I ask you a question, I let you take it
Speaker 1: as long as you want. I don't cut you off
Speaker 1: and try to direct you somewhere else. That's why the
Speaker 1: interviews go so long, because I don't cut the guests
Speaker 1: off because I want them to fully explain what they
Speaker 1: want he or she wants to say. And then I
Speaker 1: listened like some of the people like, well, shall shouldn't
Speaker 1: let him said that. That's the whole objective of an interview,
Speaker 1: is that you invite someone else and you let him
Speaker 1: or her say their peace. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think let me ask you a question? Since
Speaker 2: that people that gave you opportunities and people that work
Speaker 2: with you and all of that, have you felt a
Speaker 2: shift with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It happened. I mean it changed once I did that.
Speaker 2: What is like a jealousy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, you can feel it. You
Speaker 2: can feel it through the screen.
Speaker 1: You can feel it.
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna not say the name.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was surprised because a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I thought I was cool with, I ain't say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we hung out, we went to dinner together
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But things that I never say
Speaker 1: anything about them. But what Kat did, Cat did for
Speaker 1: a club shaysha, what the television did for sports because
Speaker 1: before the television you can only hear it. So baseball,
Speaker 1: somebody hit a home run, you couldn't see it. Football,
Speaker 1: you could hear the announcment call it, but you couldn't
Speaker 1: see it. He put Club Shasha on the map and
Speaker 1: we had to be taken serious. And I remember having
Speaker 1: a conversation. I called the team, CJ, who's the EP
Speaker 1: of the show. Here now the EP of the show,
Speaker 1: and I see, CJ. I'm not gonna make myself sick.
Speaker 1: This is our thriller. Yeah, Michael Jackson made himself sick
Speaker 1: trying to recreate thriller. Bad was amazing, Invincible, was unbelievable,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't gonna be thriller. And you have to
Speaker 1: be okay with that. I sayd CJ. As long as
Speaker 1: we do great content. The likelihood of us ever getting
Speaker 1: another video to do this is Hayley's comment. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that as long as we continue to
Speaker 1: do great content. And then people started to saying, well,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get I invite people on they share
Speaker 1: their story. Monique shared a story. I went back and
Speaker 1: looked afterwards. Monique has said a lot of the things
Speaker 1: that he said on my podcast. She has said it
Speaker 1: no other show.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's it's the effect that you have, brother,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's the effect that you that you
Speaker 2: have put out there that this this generation has has
Speaker 2: tapped into that of the people haven't. And I think
Speaker 2: that it's your demeanor, your character, and the way that
Speaker 2: you carry yourself that brings the best oute of people
Speaker 2: and the vulnerableness out of people, and people want to
Speaker 2: it's a safe space, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: and you're genuine. But that's what you provide with This
Speaker 2: is what you provide on first take and and and
Speaker 2: and dispute it is it was always how genuine you was,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and and you provide that now.
Speaker 2: And if you just keep doing what you're doing with
Speaker 2: that genuine shit, you can be the best motherfucker at
Speaker 2: anything you do, because it's not the thing you do,
Speaker 2: it's how you doing the thing.
Speaker 1: You know what it is is that the one thing
Speaker 1: that I do is that before I interview anybody, I
Speaker 1: never look at previous interviews because when you come sit
Speaker 1: down across from me, I'm not looking at you would
Speaker 1: judge the eyes. I have no predetermined idea who or
Speaker 1: what you are. I want to come up here and
Speaker 1: I want to genuinely have an authentic conversation and that
Speaker 1: person will open up because they can look at me
Speaker 1: and say he ain't judging me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you feel it. I felt the same way.
Speaker 2: Like we didn't go of a old questions, He didn't do.
Speaker 1: None of that.
Speaker 2: He sat down. It was love and we sat down
Speaker 2: and we talked and that was it. And feel more
Speaker 2: comfortable than a lot of interviews. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I honestly do you know?
Speaker 1: You know what Dave Chappelle. You were at the show
Speaker 1: when Dave came on stage and was responding to cat
Speaker 1: am I.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, was in San Jose. It was in the Empire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He felt that Cat shouldn't have said he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have said those secrets because other racists don't share their
Speaker 1: secrets exactly. Yeah, Cat should have gone.
Speaker 2: He thought Cats should have called and made a call
Speaker 2: and talked to people instead of saying what he said
Speaker 2: on on your on your platform or whatever. And that
Speaker 2: was his whole thing. And he was like he didn't
Speaker 2: want other races seeing us going at it like that,
Speaker 2: and so that was his his whole big deal. He
Speaker 2: just felt like a conversation could have had if he
Speaker 2: really felt like that, you know, And so I felt like, no,
Speaker 2: if motherfuckers ain't calling each other, and that's on his heart,
Speaker 2: and you got a platform and he want to talk
Speaker 2: about Henna, he gonna bring it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah if you probably Now, I don't know how it conversations,
Speaker 1: how it works, and a comedic community. But if I
Speaker 1: never talked to somebody on the telephone, the likelihood of
Speaker 1: me picking up, if I got a problem with the
Speaker 1: picking on the.
Speaker 2: Phone thing, it ain't gonna happen. So therefore, what David saying,
Speaker 2: I get it that that never was gonna happen or
Speaker 2: would have happened, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Right? Yeah, So the net at
Speaker 1: the festival Netflix is the joke festival brunh Dave Chappelle,
Speaker 1: Cat Williams, Kevin Hart. Cat left before Cat got there,
Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin got there, Tiffany had his Mike ELPs
Speaker 1: little real. Did you did you interact with any of those?
Speaker 1: Was there any any tension or did you notice any No?
Speaker 2: No, no, we had a good time. No, we we
Speaker 2: was chilling. No, there wasn't no tension whatsoever. We had.
Speaker 2: We had a great time taking pictures, and yeah, it
Speaker 2: was it was no beef whatsoever. Wasn't nobody or nothing
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I didn't even notice that cav left
Speaker 2: Cat Lift, I mean before yep, Cat did leave. He
Speaker 2: did leave Yep, because I was looking for him, because
Speaker 2: I didn't see that was the only person that I didn't see, Scott,
Speaker 2: But I'll say everybody else definitely, like right after that
Speaker 2: picture that I think he left. But my thing is, man,
Speaker 2: we got motherfucker's got too much money, too many jokes
Speaker 2: to write about, Like come like all this beefing back
Speaker 2: and forth. I don't know if they think this is
Speaker 2: a way to keep everybody relevant or whatever. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't even understand what's going on myself, you know,
Speaker 2: But to each his own. But people eating this shit up,
Speaker 2: and people think that they can keep doing it, you know.
Speaker 2: I told some people I was coming on the show,
Speaker 2: and they it was like, who you're gonna talk about?
Speaker 2: That's exactly what they said. It's like, who you're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about? And I was like, this, what the fuck
Speaker 2: you're talking about? Like I don't, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: talk about like that. I was like no, not like that,
Speaker 2: like no, But that's the mentality.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The mentality is you come on club who you're about
Speaker 2: to disk?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And it's like, I.
Speaker 1: Think the thing is that when you look at it,
Speaker 1: cat shit. I mean, we've had one hundred and fifty interviews. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cat said what he said and Monique said what she said.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go to Amber Rose.
Speaker 2: People be wilding you.
Speaker 1: You kissed ambarrolls on blacket.
Speaker 2: I did kiss Amberose, that sure did. And I kept
Speaker 2: sucking up so we can keep shooting. I fucked my
Speaker 2: lines up about the time. I was like, we gotta
Speaker 2: shoot this again. Come on, come in, give you something
Speaker 2: of that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, come on man, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure? Did I love that Amber? Amber was? Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: Amber's good people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good people. You would flirt with Tracey Ellis Ross
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 2: Chasey fine, man, come on man, Chasey fine, Jack, that's
Speaker 2: the boy. She fine fine. But I just I felt
Speaker 2: like I didn't want to like be with her, be
Speaker 2: with her like that, because that's royalty, that's Diana Ross's daughter.
Speaker 2: Not saying that I could have been with her, she
Speaker 2: could have been with me. I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 2: But I did flur definitely. But I started thinking, like,
Speaker 2: you know, she's royalty daughter. I'm like, she don't, she
Speaker 2: don't she don't know how to do chores right, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? She had in her life. Let
Speaker 2: her do everything. She would have to make a sandwich.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna get you to I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: you out here on this one. No Dion Jonathan Major,
Speaker 1: he you know, he had to issue and seemingly like.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Tracy, I love you baby.
Speaker 1: Everything got snatched away. But John John, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: that for me, the thing that I that I that
Speaker 1: I hate. And then I could be wrong and maybe
Speaker 1: I'm just overacting, but it seems like we get held
Speaker 1: to a different standard, Like we make a mistake and
Speaker 1: they just burned everything down to the ground, and other
Speaker 1: and other groups get to make a mistake and it's okay.
Speaker 2: Again back to what we were saying earlier. We tear
Speaker 2: our own down, man, we tear him down. And because
Speaker 2: he had a white girl that just really made black
Speaker 2: folks go.
Speaker 1: That's when he.
Speaker 2: And it's like stealing aw that was one of the
Speaker 2: greatest actors of our time.
Speaker 1: And he was. He was starting to blow.
Speaker 2: To man, I work with that man on that man
Speaker 2: changed my way of thinking when it comes to acting,
Speaker 2: you know, on the heart of theay Fall, you know, man,
Speaker 2: I saw I saw this man walk around in character
Speaker 2: when the camera was off. He was walking, Man, I
Speaker 2: saw that. On his days off, dog, I would see
Speaker 2: dude at the gas station in caw in his cowboy outfit,
Speaker 2: like gone like like, what are you doing? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, what are you doing? Like that? Dedicated?
Speaker 2: That was That dude is a motherfucker you hear me.
Speaker 2: When it comes to acting, man, he's so cold with it.
Speaker 2: And so to have someone that talented be overlooked by
Speaker 2: a situation, it's a situation, it's something happened. Well, I
Speaker 2: don't know why everybody wants everybody to be perfect as fuck, Like,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody perfect? Whatever, such situation happened and happened, you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: his mentality, his mentality, But still in awe, he's still
Speaker 2: one of the greatest actors of our time.
Speaker 1: He really is.
Speaker 2: And so I hate that that happened to him, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I hate that that happened to him.
Speaker 2: And again, I just hate that there's not a place
Speaker 2: where black folks can go. Hey, man, I apologize, and
Speaker 2: everybody go, all right, man, he apologized, and this is
Speaker 2: what he's about to do for the community, for us
Speaker 2: right here about do this for the community, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Y'all right.
Speaker 2: That's what it should always be. It should always be, Hey,
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do for the community, or what you did,
Speaker 2: or how you're gonna make this better for us as
Speaker 2: a people. We bring him in and make sure everything
Speaker 2: okay is shit, you know, and that go with anybody
Speaker 2: do anything fucked up, you know, that's our own, that's
Speaker 2: our people. Quit tearing quit tearing motherfuckers down and getting
Speaker 2: rid of them and don't have nobody to replace them
Speaker 2: with because we don't and we don't. We don't replace
Speaker 2: them with nobody. We just get rid of them. And
Speaker 2: it's like, no, everybody make mistakes, let them learn from
Speaker 2: their mistakes, and then we keep the mother fucking moving.
Speaker 2: You can, you can, you can, and before we go,
Speaker 2: you can bast situations, make a lot of things good happen.
Speaker 2: You ever order some food and they fuck your food up,
Speaker 2: they'll be like this, you can keep that and we'll
Speaker 2: all bring your other one. You'd be like this for
Speaker 2: god damn. Yeah, I just keep sucking up to keep
Speaker 2: sucking up. Now you got two plate, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So therefore with these fuck ups, quit looking
Speaker 2: at Oh it's a fuck up. Just look at it
Speaker 2: like man, that's a fuck up. Now what good can
Speaker 2: we get out of this? Just always look at what
Speaker 2: the what's the good we can get out of this
Speaker 2: in any situation and it works, you know.
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