1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much 3 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Let's hear it for our super producer, 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Max Defcon Williams. 5 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: What's it? 6 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: What's like a clason? Is that the sound that you 7 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: hear remain indores, remain in doors. There's been an event? Yeah, no, 8 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: I'm bad, Yeah you are indeed. Yeah, and today we're 9 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: talking about the seminal nineteen nineties action film Broken Arrow, 10 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: starring John Travolta and Christian Slater. 11 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Seminal seminal. That's pretty bold. Yeah, yeah, you think it's 12 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: a semin I'm misusing it. No, no, I've been known 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: to misused words. That is correct, because that is an 14 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: amazing film. Did I get it right? Isn't Christian Slater 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: in it? I don't know. He's a good guy. 16 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: Travolt is the bad guy. I remember, he's the bad guy. 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: What is a broken arrow? It's also, by the way, 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: Brian Adams. 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: Who else is going to bring you? 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: I think he's talking about an actual broken arrow, though, yeah, 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: he's naming off weird objects like a bottle of rain. 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: You know, sure, don't think he's talking about lost nukes. 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: Maybe they're all code words for different governmental disasters. Brian, Yeah, 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: it's like a biocontaminant that's lost the bottle of rain. 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: That's good. 26 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: So I want to kind of just jump in here 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: and go completely off topic though, because Ben, screw you, man. 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: Okay, screw you. What does what happens? We just recorded 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: stuff that I want you to know. 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: Ben was talking about how much he loves I Will 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: Follow You in the Dark by Death caf for CUTI. 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: I will stay this right now. 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: I just spent two hundred and sixty dollars on tickets, 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: sixty sixty one dollars on tickets. You go see Death 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: Cab for Cutie twentieth anniversary translations. I'm along with twentieth 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 4: anniversary of Gave Up my post post service. I love 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: Death Cab for Cuitie, but I stayed to band. That 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: song is terrible. Yeah, he told me listen to it now. 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: I was stuck in my head. 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: Well, it's a catchy jam and it's not terrible. It's 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: just a sacarin and it just makes you kind of 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: I yeah. 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: Killed it, you know, Like it's one of those songs 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: where when the band plays it. The front guy doesn't 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: have to do much because the crowd's going. 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: They love that, that's right. 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: I saw them at a festival in Atlanta recently or 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Caught Time is weird, uh, 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: and it's one of the ones he does on acoustic. 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't really have a big explosive, so it's a 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: bit of a snoozer, but I think it's pretty. It's 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: just so elegantly written. 53 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: It is elegantly written. 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: And I'm a much bigger fan of the Postal Service 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: than I am of Death Cab for Cutie and I 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: Will Die. 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: On that hill. Speaking of dying on hills, Wait wait, wait, wait, Max, 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: where are you going with this? You listen to it? 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: So I listened to it and it was pretty good. 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: I went then put on styrophone Plates, off the Off 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: the Photo album. Much better song. If you Think I 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: Will Follow You in the Dark is a great song. 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: Listen to starrophone Plates. It's a less famous album, but 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: it's a much better song. 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I refuse to nol I refuse for us to do 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: a Max with the Facts on that one, because that 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: is a musical opinion. 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: That was Max with the Wax The whack worth it, 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: worth it you guys want a real facts. There are 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: lost nukes. 71 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: There are tons of lost nukes. This where we were going, right, like, okay. 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: Somehow we were gonna get there. Yeah, here we set up, 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: We took it, are right, we did a couple of things. 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: So, according to atomic archive dot com, since nineteen fifty, 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: there have been no less than thirty two nuclear weapon accidents, 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: and to your point earlier, Noel, those are conventionally known 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: as broken arrows. 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, or as we like to refer to them collectively, whoopsies. Yeah, 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: new kuipsies, neukuipsies. Yeah. 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: It's like, how does this happen? One might ask, Well, 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that today. Thirty two nuclear 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: weapon accidents broken arrows, like you said, ben an unexpected event, 83 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: according to atomic archive dot com, involving nuclear weapons that 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: result in the accidental launching, firing, detonating, theft. 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: Or loss of the weapon. 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Important distinction, right, because it's not always just losing the thing. 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: You could accidentally launch it. And it might sound strange, folks, 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: because as you know, there are tons of redundancies involved. 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: The US nuclear Arsenal is created in such a way 90 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: that as long as everything works. You can't just have 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: one guy have a bad afternoon and then all of 92 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, destroy the Marshall Islands. But the 93 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: big ones, the scary ones, are the ones that have 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: been lost. Like you were saying, six nuclear weapons over 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: the course of history have been lost. They've never been found. 96 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: That number, we should say is big thanks to Max here. 97 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: We should say that number is highly debated because some 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: people think there are just three missing nukes. Some people 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: think they're way, way more. And that's the tricky part. 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: That's why it's two part episode, right, because we don't 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know, and I mean, let's 102 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: think about it. 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: Nukes are a thing that like some people get and 104 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: other people don't get. They don't like it when I'm 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: talking like geopolitically speaking, Yeah, and we're one of the 106 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: ones that get them, you know, and I guess because 107 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: of compacts and agreements and you know, whatever accords. Let's 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: say they're nuclear deproliferation and all of that. And then 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: we know also that there are countries that want them, 110 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: oh want them so bad, or possibly are making them 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: and not telling us about it, and they're not playing fair. 112 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: But fair is what's fair in love and war, you know, 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: and love and. 114 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Nukes right right, right, and this is uh, this takes 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: us down so many interesting paths, you know, because nuclear weapons, 116 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: at least in the view of the US, nuclear weapons 117 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: are one of those things where if we have them, 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: it's great. If someone else has them, it's terrible. It's 119 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: like flying cars, right, Like if you have if flying 120 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: cars are a great idea, if there's only one and 121 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: you're the one who owns. 122 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: It, and if we all have them, then it's sort 123 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: of a zero sum game, you're right, and or mutually 124 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: assured destruction. 125 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: M yeah, mad, and so people got real mad during 126 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: the first recorded case of broken arrow situation. It happened 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: on February thirteenth, nineteen fifty. There's a B thirty six 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: going out of an Air Force based southeast of fair Banks, Alaska, 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: and it's flying to base in Fort Worth, Texas, and 130 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: it's due in training. It's a simulating a combat mission, 131 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: and the weapon aboard this B thirty six had a 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: dummy installed, so it's like a fake gun. And six 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: hours into the flight, the aircraft gets some serious mechanical difficulties, 134 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: has to shut down three engines at twelve thousand feet 135 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: and it couldn't maintain a level flight. It headed off 136 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: over the Pacific Ocean. It dropped the weapon from eight 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: thousand feet altitude. A flash occurred on impact, a sound, 138 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: a shock wave, The weapons high explosive material detonated, but 139 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: not the whole thing. The crew bailed out over Princess 140 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Royal Island and they later found the wreckage of the aircraft. 141 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: So everything went wrong on this one. But it was 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: not a nuclear detonation. 143 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: No, but it did sort of have a domino effect, 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: you know, it set some parts in motion. In nineteen fifty, 145 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: we know of at least five broken arrow events in. 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: One year on year. 147 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Great great, and the last one took place on November 148 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: tenth of that year in Quebec, that's in Canada. And 149 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: there's a quote here from a writer named Zaria Gorvette 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: writing for bbcfuture dot com that describes these events as such. 151 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: A B fifty jettisened a Mark four baumb over the 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: Saint Lawrence River near Rivier Delu, about three hundred miles 153 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: northeast of Montreal. The weapons high explosive detonated on impact, 154 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: although lacking its es central plutonium core the explosion did 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: scatter nearly one hundred pounds of uranium. 156 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: Okay, tuy, not great, not like catastrophic, No, man, it's awesome. 157 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Just uraniums. This little uranium, Just a. 158 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: Little uranium, right, just a sprinkle, you know, like Salt 159 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Bay level. Unfortunately, you know, as you established, there were 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: many more Broken Arrow events, fifteen more throughout the nineteen fifties, 161 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: and we're not sure how many during the nineteen sixties. 162 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Because this is the height of the Cold War, there's 163 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: a lot of secrecy on both sides of the curtain. 164 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: And Tzaria Gorvette you mentioned earlier, talks a bit about 165 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: the concept of mutually assured destruction with the Soviet Union. 166 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: This is the time of the Dead Hand. Remember we 167 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: did a stuff. They'll want you a new episode on that. 168 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: The dead Hands system that the Soviet Union had and 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: Russia probably still has at this to this day, is 170 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: a thing that is designed to instantly retaliate against a 171 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: nuclear strike, even if Moscow is wiped out. It's very, 172 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: very spooky stuff. People were rightly terrified, and because both 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: sides felt like they were on the brink of a 174 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: war at any given moment, the US made the decision 175 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: to keep airplanes armed with nuclear weapons in. 176 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: The sky. 177 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: At all time, all year round. Twenty four to seven. 178 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna have some birds in the sky with nukes, 179 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: and they do that for eight years in an operation 180 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: with a hilariously dumb name chrome dome. 181 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: Chrome dome. Why not? That's fun. Isn't a chrome dome 182 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: like sort of a I mean, it's kind of a 183 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: term of abuse for a bald person. 184 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought chrome dome for some reason, I'm thinking 185 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: of like implants in someone's head. 186 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: I think calling someone a chrome dome because speech, Yeah, 187 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 3: if you're a larious it's it's like figure. 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: Mean towards like Jonathan Strickland. Correct. 189 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: So, uh, this is kind of funny because the inspiration 190 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 4: of this episode came from me playing fall at four. 191 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: But chrome Dome is what they called the Gen one 192 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: since and fall at four, you know those creepy robots 193 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 4: that show up and try to kill you, pretty sure 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: they're chrome domes. And you know, there's a lot of 195 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: nuke jokes in Fallouts, such as you know, the like 196 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: devastating weapons called the fat Man, which is the name 197 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: of the nukes that got dropped on. 198 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: And Little Boy. Yeah, and in the game it's like 199 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: a personal nuke. It's like shot. It's pretty cool. 200 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, just also, just just to clarify, to chrome, 201 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: dumb is in fact a bald person. Specifically, it's idiomatic, indelicate, 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: and offensive. According to dictionary dot. 203 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Org, we are against prejudice, of course, in any form here, 204 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: bald people are still people, right, right, right, And. 205 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: Even if their names trickland, I mean, Jonathan, don't want 206 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: to say lost name many times and all I'm showing 207 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: up or anything. 208 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's be careful. We're on the precipice across 209 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: that rubicon. So where are these broken arrows happening all 210 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: over the place? South Dakota, Maryland, Texas, California, North Carolina, 211 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Indiana, Ohio. Also, of course, is Savannah, George. 212 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: It's right, Savannah, Georgia, the Redneck Riviera. Okay, that's not 213 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: quite right, but it is. It's a riviera of sorts. 214 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: I think the Redneck riv Era is like myrtle beach, right. 215 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: I guess you know. It's a state of mind exactly. 216 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: It's like salt life. 217 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: Savannah is really cool, though, it's kind of our own 218 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: little New Orleans, I said, this here. 219 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got there. It's A'm embarrassed already, but I 220 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: can't take it back. 221 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: It's just sort of New Orleans ask you know, there's 222 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: a bit of a history of piracy because of its proximity, 223 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: you know, to the ocean. So there is like a 224 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: really cool kind of goofy restaurant called the Pirates House. 225 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: I remember there where you can get I just remember, 226 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: like I was a weird kid. I really liked escargo. 227 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I still do like it. It's snails. Grew up eating 228 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: it in Germany, where it was called schnecken. I've never could. 229 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: It's actually, you know, what you can get in the 230 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: can not bad. 231 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing Lord and Vogelbaum and I used to 232 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: do stack stuff. Yeahes cargo has been unfairly maligned. We 233 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: promise you it's pretty cool. 234 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: It's just a sponge for garlic butters. 235 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 236 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: And if you you know what, if you eat oysters 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: or clams, the boogers of the sea, you have no 238 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: you have nothing to stand on if you condemn enjoyers 239 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: of vest cargoes. 240 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Snails are just a little cheerier than an oyster. Somewhere 241 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: between the consistency of like a calamari uh and and 242 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: an oyster. But I find them to be delightful anyway. 243 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: Pirates House has them. Childhood Memory, Savannah, Georgia a beautiful place, 244 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: Tybee Island, all of that good stuff, but also home 245 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: to a buried nuke if I'm not mistake. 246 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna We're gonna get to that one now. 247 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a two part episode, folks. We 248 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: just want you to know that they are way more 249 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: of these out there than you would reasonably assume. And 250 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: they're not limited to the United States either, right. 251 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're definitely not. We've got some, you know, 252 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: throughout the Pacific Ocean. And Paul maris Spain in a toolul. 253 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: How do you say that? Is that in Greenland or something? 254 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: What is the White Sea? Which is Scannon Scandinavian green 255 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: What is perhaps dol To? I don't know that one man. 256 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Let's see I would I have been saying dool But 257 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: we're not from Greenland, so let's give it. 258 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Let's give it a go. Here, we'll actually just play this. 259 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: We are looking at how to pronounce the name of 260 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the Swedish company. 261 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I love this and that. 262 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: Owns a collection of brands related to outdoor and transportation problems. 263 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: So delightful do you say it? You may think it 264 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: could be Thule or we did without all of these things. 265 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: For some reason, probably because it is a Swedish company. 266 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: This is to be said as truly reason. 267 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: Hey, well cool, we learned something, thanks Internet guy. 268 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: Probably because it is a Swedish company. 269 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, with also sort of an indiscernible accent, because for 270 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: a minute I. 271 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Was like, is this guy Swedish? 272 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: But then he says it as though the Swedes are 273 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: another Yeah, I'm sorry. 274 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: You know we're gonna learn more about that guy. 275 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, the these broken arrows are all around. There 276 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: are even a few incidents that remain highly classified today, 277 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: such as a little bit of a food bar situation 278 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. And then on the other 279 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: side of the Iron Curtain, we've got reports of Soviet 280 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: broken arrows because they were making some of the same 281 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: mistakes that Uncle Sam was making. 282 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: Okay, So enter the Golden Age of excess, the nineteen seventies. 283 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: That's when the wave of peace and love and hippie 284 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: good vibes broke. 285 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: As me paraphrasing Hunter S. Thompson very poorly. And also 286 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: the other other thing that broke in the nineteen. 287 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Seventies arrows, baby, oh the broken arrow get it. 288 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: That was my attempt at transition. 289 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: Atomic archive dot Org once again talks about a couple 290 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: of incidents in the seventies. So seventies was like exactly 291 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: the golden age of broken arrows. Four however, in the 292 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: eighty three of which to your point, ben were Soviet 293 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: and we've got four more in the combined decades that followed. 294 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: Max comes in hot with the facts here, saying there 295 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: are two ways that we know about broken arrows. One 296 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: of them is that it's too big of a story 297 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: for you know, the government to hush up. The second 298 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: is from classified data that has been declassified and when 299 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: the first point would be it would be some sort 300 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: of incident or event that was like observed, right. 301 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just it's too big to keep quiet. 302 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: We're near a major city or community, you know, so 303 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: hundreds of people see a plane crash, What are you 304 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: what are you going to tell them? 305 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: Exactly? 306 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: And again declassified classified documents. To the point we've been 307 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: kind of hitting at this whole time, there are probably 308 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: more of these that we don't know about yet. Yes, 309 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: these documents haven't been declassified. That takes time one hundred percent. 310 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: You know why because if someone is directly responsible and 311 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: they fumbled the nuclear football, then you want to wait 312 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: till they're retired or dead totally so they don't get embarrassed. 313 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: But this let's you mentioned Spain, so that's the home 314 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: of one of the most famous broken arrowcases. It's nineteen 315 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: sixty six, the golden age for losing nuclear weapons, and 316 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: we're going. 317 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Back to Zaria Gorvette for BBC Future. She writes. 318 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: It was a mild winter's morning at the height of 319 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: the Cold War on January seventeenth, nineteen sixty six, at 320 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: around ten thirty am, a Spanish shrimp fisherman watched a 321 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: misshapen white parcel fall from the sky and glide towards 322 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: the sea. It had something to hang him beneath it. 323 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: He couldn't make out what it was. He saw a 324 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: slip beneath the waves, and then in a nearby fishing 325 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: village Palomades, they looked up and from their perspective they 326 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: saw two giant fireballs hurtling toward them and explosions ensued. 327 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you call a big story. 328 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah right, two giant fireballs hurling towards people. So yeah, this, 329 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: the quaint solitude of this tiny berg was absolutely upended. 330 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: Also, I kind of jump in here. I cut a 331 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: line out of this because they got a little too graphic. 332 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: But there was other stuff hurling at them too. 333 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: That we will just leave it. Was it poop? No, No, 334 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why my mind went straight to poop. 335 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: Body parts. 336 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say yes to you that ben okay, okay, 337 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: but body parts? 338 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? 339 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: Well, that was a diplomat. I'm sorry I led with poop. 340 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: Guys. That was just the child in me. 341 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: It's a fair questions quest share on the planes for 342 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: a long time. It has to go start somewhere. 343 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: It's true. So the building ground shook. 344 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: You know, there's you know, flying pieces of of boop 345 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: boop potentially, and when we're not confirming nor denying, Yeah, 346 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: all right, I'll take as far as this is a 347 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: joke is going to go. 348 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Shrapnel, right, the stuff that the stuff, what's what slices? Oh? 349 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I learned a dumb fact about shrapnel. Would you like 350 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: to hear it? 351 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 352 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Uh, it is invented the inventor of shrapnel is a 353 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: guy whose name is I kid you not Henry Shrapnel. 354 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: That's amazing and that's what he's known for. Now, that's cool, 355 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: do you think? 356 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, like people like famous doctors whose names get associated 357 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: with like horrible diseases. 358 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Sure, that's kind of a bummer, right, Like how or 359 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: just uh public figures like they did Lou Garrick dirty? 360 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: He really did? 361 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's his legacy is no longer being an 362 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: amazing sports baller. 363 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know what sport he played. Was a baseball? 364 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: Was baseball? Was? He has nowhere war an als shirt? 365 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: Right now? Did you do the Brice Bucket challenge? Oh? 366 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: Stand up the best? Uh so yeah, that's a good point. 367 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 2: I know. 368 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: We're all over the place right now, just like broken 369 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: arrow situations, just like these nukes. So, like you said, 370 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Uncle Sam can't keep this quiet. They tried to, but 371 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: they definitely can't. The story is already too big. It's 372 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: an entire village. Everyone's seen this. Newspapers are reporting rumors 373 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: for terrible accidents. Shortly thereafter, they're saying two US planes 374 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: collided in mid air and they scattered not one, not two, 375 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: but four twenty eight thermonuclear bombs across the area. I 376 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: was sure it was going to be three, right, we 377 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: skipped three? They found three? Okay, they found three? See 378 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: of the four? Okay, got it? That is why out 379 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: man one of them sank into into the sea. Uh 380 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: and and was lost beneath the waves of the Mediterranean. 381 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Uh. 382 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: And now it was game on to to to get 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: down in there and find it. So this thing, it 384 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: was a one point one mega ton. I always love 385 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: that megaton is sort of spelled like British style, Yes, 386 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 3: like t O N n E. Whenever we use the 387 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: word ton to refer to a measurement. Isn't it just 388 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: spelled t O n Yeah? 389 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: It's a US v U K thing, right, And I 390 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: like mega ton just because to me it sounds like 391 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: it's an anime. 392 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: Isn't mega ton the name of a city or a settlement? 393 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: And fallout as well? I don't know you guys, do 394 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: you guys know more of sky Rim kids? Nearly certain 395 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: it is? Yeah? Which one is that? It's not? It's not? 396 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: Isn't it the ship? Isn't it that the the big 397 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: old repurposed U warship? 398 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: No? 399 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: No, no, No, Mega ton is the is the is 400 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: the place that you go very first in the game. 401 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: I think the prid wind is the zeppelin and four. 402 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the mayor or the sheriff of Megaton is 403 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: this fella with like a totally goofy western hat on 404 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: and like a kind of a mad max vest and 405 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: you you interact with him. 406 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: He's an NPC that you hang out with character. That's right. Yeah, 407 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: we're giant nerds. Sorry, we keep bouncing on this one. 408 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: We're having fun with what is ultimately kind of a 409 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: heavy topic at the end of the day, the fact 410 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: that any one country or group possesses this technology. 411 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: By the way, looking forward to checking out the Barbie movie. 412 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: Uh and of courseheim on the same day. 413 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: Perhaps, But it's wild that that any that it could. 414 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 3: There could ever be a situation where something with this 415 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: much destructive power could just be whoop seed. 416 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: You knows, it's wild. 417 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: One megaton is a unit of explosive force that equals 418 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: one metric tons of T and T, so when we 419 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: talk about something that is a mega ton warhead million 420 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: metric tons. Yeah, it's just we have to remember it's 421 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: terrifying that these things exist, even when we know where 422 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: they are, right. 423 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: I mean, let's picture somebody holding a single stick of dynamite. Okay, 424 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: remember it kept happening in Loss where they had that 425 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: unstable dynamite and inevitably somebody bumped it and then just 426 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: got blown up. And it was like with one or 427 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: two sticks. You know, this is million tons of those. 428 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: I mean this, this is the force to decimate cities, obliterate. 429 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 430 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: I mean if anybody wants to truly experience a very 431 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: very accurate depiction of what this is like, and you 432 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: want to watch it as a cartoon, highly recommend the 433 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: anime film Barefoot Gin. It is incredibly messed up and sad, 434 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: but it is beautiful and it really does. There's a 435 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: sequence where a nuke goes off where it just shows 436 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: and very graphic detail what would happen. 437 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: And the US military, the world's militaries are aware of 438 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: the dangers inherent in this kind of technology and weaponry, 439 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: so they want to get their nuke back, and the 440 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: military sends a crack team of experts to search the 441 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: bottom of the Mediterranean for this nuke. One of the 442 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: members of this team is a guy named Philip Myers. 443 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: Myers and his crew are thinking out of the box. 444 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: They're trying to imagine any possible way they can find 445 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: this nuke. So they get they get some help from 446 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: some weird sources. Two crazy inventions. One is some is 447 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: it a weird idea made up in the eighteenth century 448 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: by an amateur mathematician who used to be a Presbyterian minister, 449 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: and it helps people use information about past events to 450 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: calculate the probability of them happening in the future. 451 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Beijian inference, I believe. Is that how 452 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: that's pronounced? 453 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: And then just you know, we're we're not math surgeons 454 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: here a ridiculous history, but it is, according to the interwebs, 455 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: a method of statistical inference in which this theorem Bayes' 456 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: theorem is used to update the product probability for a 457 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: hypothesis as more evidence or information becomes available. Beyesian inference 458 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: is an important technique in statistics, and especially in mathematical statistics. Cool, 459 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: I feel dumber somehow. Yeah, they definitely were thinking outside 460 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: of the nuclear box. 461 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were saying, okay, maybe this will help 462 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: us predict where the bomb ultimately landed, like where it's 463 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: sank that's right, because it's a needle. 464 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: In a Hayes one hundred percent. 465 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: And then we have the delightfully named Alvin, which whenever 466 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: I see that where I can't help but say it 467 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: in Dave's angry voice, you know, from the Chipmunker. But gosh, 468 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: this is kind of prescient for some news of events. 469 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: A cutting edge deep sea ocean submarine able to dive 470 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: to unprecedented depths, described as looking like a rotund white shark. 471 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: And I have people in it. And this is in 472 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: the sixties. 473 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: Why are these startup douchebags imploding people in the two thousands. 474 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: Because they're going down much, much further and they're skipping 475 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: safety checks. 476 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: It was a bit of a rhetorical question. 477 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: And I just want to point out I wrote this 478 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: before that all happened, so no one accused me of 479 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: writing some bad taste. 480 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: It was fallout that motivated nobody. And it's an important fact. 481 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: It's an important fact because bays and inference is the 482 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: theory that informs their search, and Alvin is the vessel 483 00:26:49,440 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: that takes them there. They do find this miss nuke. 484 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: It's on March first, nineteen sixty six, and from the 485 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: declassified imagery. What you can see is that the the 486 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: tip of the missing nuclear weapon is covered by a 487 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: white parachute that it partially deployed, and it tangled itself 488 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: up with the nuke with the missile, and uh. 489 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: Looked kind of like a spooky ghost, isn't it. That's 490 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: what they're saying. 491 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm still blown away by this sub. 492 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: You know, existing in nineteen sixty six, in the way 493 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 2: that they can find this. Yeah, it's Iran a million, 494 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: it's a lot. 495 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: And they certainly they were basically using maths and this 496 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: the sub, you know, and it's not like they had 497 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: crazy cameras or anything unmanned you know, vessels. You know, 498 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: this is sata really wild and really you know, enterprising. 499 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently you know how those those nukes when 500 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: they deploy them, they often have a parachute. 501 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: Sure, so that, like you said, the thing was wrapped. 502 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: Around and it had this billowy They described it actually 503 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: in the piece for BBC Future as. 504 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: A ghostly shroud, ghostly shroud. 505 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: Well, and here's where it gets even weirder, Folks, finding 506 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: the nuke is not the same thing as retrieving the nuke. 507 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: They know where it is and the odds were against them, 508 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: and now Philip Myers and his team have to figure 509 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: out how to get this bomb out of the ocean 510 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: floor where it's thousands of feet into the depths, and 511 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: they have to do it without detonating the thing. So 512 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: they they tried they basically do if this is old school, 513 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: but if you've ever locked yourself out of a car 514 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: and used like. 515 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: A gym to get under and then. 516 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, close Hagler for sure that they tried to do 517 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: that with the with a nuclear weapon. The way they 518 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: describe it is, we improvise a kind of fishing line 519 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: out of thousands of feet of heavy duty nylon rope 520 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and a metal hook at the end, just like breaking 521 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: into a car or try or trying to use those 522 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm standing up trying to use those claw machine arcade 523 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: claw machine. 524 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: That's what they tried to do really quickly. Bet why 525 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: did the thing not detonate? 526 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Aren't these things often like in these days on some 527 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: sort of pressure change detonator or like how is it 528 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: literally it's not a button do you hit? Is it 529 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: like remote controlled? Fully, I'm just different ones. Yeah, yeah, 530 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: it's a good question. 531 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: So I know on this one or at least around 532 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: this time, there was like a switch that had to 533 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: be had to be switched for like the material for 534 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 4: the bond to really come together to actually build a detonate. 535 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: So a lot of these cases it hadn't been switched 536 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: so like the stuff, they were separate elements had him 537 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: been pushed together. 538 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: It's like you drop this thing. 539 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: There's you know, the first one that the high matter 540 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: explosion went off, but since there. 541 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: Wasn't actually I don't think any uranium in it. There wasn't. 542 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of them. 543 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: They'll say a nuclear detonation was not possible ICEE, which 544 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: is like safety, which is one of the safety measures 545 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: protecting it, which is good. We have one of them 546 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: down the road, and we tell you, guys, right now 547 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: where that safety measure fails. 548 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we're going to get to it again. These 549 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: are the B twenty eight thermonuclear bombs. There are a 550 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: couple of different variants. But even though it hasn't detonated, 551 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: and even though the team has been briefed on the 552 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: danger of these things, they're still, you know, rightly kind 553 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: of terrified. Meyers says, we were going very slowly, very cautiously, 554 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: and there's a funny line here. This guy feels like 555 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: he's cool to hang out with. Yeah, he says, So. 556 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: We just kind of waited around. 557 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: We were anxious, We wanted to we wanted to figure 558 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: out what we would do if we actually were able 559 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: to hoist it out of the water. And things go 560 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: wrong because they lift this thing from the ocean floor 561 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: and the parachute, which is in play, is slowing down 562 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the effort because think about it now, it's a parachute 563 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: working in the. 564 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: Water in reverse. 565 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: And here's the thing too, man, I was already blown 566 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: away by the existence of this manned deep sea sub, 567 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: the small deep sea sub. They this doesn't work, They 568 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: ultimately fail. They deploy another kind of sub a month later, 569 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 3: that is robotic. I would not have thought in the 570 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: sixties they would even have the ability to have remote 571 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: controlled robotic subs. It just goes to show, yes, but 572 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: also goes to show how much like the government holds 573 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: back from the consumer availability or from. 574 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, from even just like they're 575 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: always a couple steps ahead. 576 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh of course, Yeah, the technological suppression is real. And 577 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: they had to use this robotic sub because Alvin or 578 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: little Alvin was almost stuck down there, tangled in the 579 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: parachute with the missing. 580 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: New wa Why didn't they send the robot in the 581 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: first place. It seems like that would have been the 582 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: smart move. 583 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: Maybe it was still very experimental. Maybe you know, I. 584 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: Wouldn't you say, given the time period, something like that 585 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: would be very ahead of its time. 586 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so. Yeah. 587 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: So that's one example of a successful retrieval of a 588 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: broken arrow. What happens is the RoboSub is controlled by 589 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: a cable. It's able to grab the bomb by its 590 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: parachute and haul it up, and then they had to 591 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: disarm it. They managed to do it. It's a harrowing, 592 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: terrifying process. But it's one of the most successful broken 593 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: arrow cases. And as we're going to see, maybe maybe 594 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: we finished part one talking a little bit more about 595 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: the less successful cases here, because there are a number 596 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: of lost or broken arrows. So, like we said earlier, 597 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: how many broken arrows are out there, it depends on 598 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: who you ask. It's really tough to tell because a 599 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of this is still classified. Some folks say it's six, 600 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: some say it's three, and some say many, many more. 601 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: It kind of. 602 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Also depends on how you want to define it. So 603 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: if you don't have all the components installed on a weapon, 604 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: on a missile or a bomb, then does it count as. 605 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: A broken arrow? Ah? 606 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: Okay, if it's like a training session, you got a 607 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: dummy bomb there, then does I feel like this stuff 608 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: is dangerous enough that it should still count? You know, 609 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: like how you always treat a gun like it's loaded, 610 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: even if it's a prop. 611 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: Exactly, Yeah, Because I mean, as we know, sometimes when. 612 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: People think it's just a problem, it can still put 613 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: one right in your dumb. 614 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Oh your chrome dough Yeah, indeed your chrome dome. Props 615 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: to the bald community. 616 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: So the first of the first of these lost arrows 617 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: is from our initial example. It's from the February thirteenth, 618 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty B thirty six bomber incident where they had 619 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: that engine trouble and the US military said, Okay, no 620 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: matter what happens, we're not going to have a crash 621 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: with a nuclear warhead on US soil. So drop the bomb, 622 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: the fat Man thirty kiloton Mark four into the Pacific Ocean. 623 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: And according to the official report, the bomb like you 624 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: you had said earlier, and all the bomb didn't have 625 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: that plutonium core you need for a nuclear detonation, so 626 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: some of the more pedantic people will say it doesn't 627 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: count as a broken arrow. 628 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: Another case, on March the tenth of nineteen fifty six 629 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: took place around six years after that first bomb was lost. Too. 630 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: Nuclear cores from a B forty seven bomber were lost 631 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: when that plane. 632 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: Crashed into the Mediterranean. Once again, it's Mediterranean. It's really 633 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: lousy with this stuff. It's a nukesponge. Yes, so perhaps 634 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: it had to do with the flight path. 635 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 3: It was specifically making the journey from McDill Air Force 636 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: Base in Florida to Ben Gerreer Air Force Base in Morocco. 637 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 3: It did it one of those really badass aerial refuels. 638 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: We're so cool, the pipe kind of comes down, they 639 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 3: Hovered's what a neat maneuver. But it failed to make 640 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: contact with a tanker for an additional refueling and was 641 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 3: then reported missing with the plane right. 642 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't know what kind of NUKA was carrying, 643 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: but we do know the B forty seven, this type 644 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: of plane at this time usually had a thirty four 645 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: hundred kilogram Mark fifteen nuclear bomb, and to this day, 646 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: no trace of the bomb nor the plane have ever 647 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: been found. So Mediterranean scavengers, treasure hunters, now it's your time. 648 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: Indeed, is that the kind of I don't know, man, 649 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: do you think do you think they are like amateur 650 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: nuke hunters? 651 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: You really? 652 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess it'd be a bit. But to 653 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: what end as an artifact or like for nefarius nefarious things. 654 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: Some of it nefarious, some of it just for the glory, 655 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: like eccentric treasure hunters. 656 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: The final bomb that. 657 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: Got lost, the final of the three lost and never recovered, 658 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: occurred sometime in the beginning of nineteen sixty eight. It 659 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: was the USS Scorpion, a nuclear sub that sank about 660 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: four hundred miles southwest of the Azores, and almost one 661 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: hundred people died ninety nine crew members. No one survived 662 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: on the sub. It was also carrying a pair of 663 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: nuclear tipped weapons, which yield like two hundred and fifty kilotons, 664 00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: So immensely dangerous. And that's just part of the worry 665 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: right now, you know what, No, we've gotta got to 666 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: call this our two parter, gotta get out of here. 667 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: Uh. I gotta tell you I love this stuff. 668 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: I am I will rewatch Broken Arrow for you, dude, 669 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see. 670 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: Listen if I consider a seminal. 671 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: I use that term very very liberally. I have not 672 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: seen the film since it came out. It does currently 673 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: whole day. I think two and a half star rating 674 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: on IMDb. 675 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: Check. I did check, and I was right about the cast. 676 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: I remember practically nothing about the movie other than that 677 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 3: is where I first. 678 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: Learned the term Broken Arrow outside of the Brian Adams song. 679 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I remember liking it because I 680 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: love those kind of movies when I was a kid. 681 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember which film John Travolta, this is 682 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: Dary in his like face off villain face. 683 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: Right around there. Yeah, I'm trying to remember what the 684 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: film was where he was a hacker with a ponytail. 685 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: Was this swordfish? I didn't see sword Is that a thing? 686 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: It is a thing. 687 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 4: Remember him being a hacker with a pony hill? And 688 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 4: I have no idea, So I'm gonna say swordfish. 689 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Well we'll see. We'll see. 690 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: That is clearly, you know, maybe not the most important 691 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: mystery of today's show. I think that prize goes to 692 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: the missing nuclear weapons but please tune in for part two, folks, 693 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: We have much more to explore. Big big thanks to 694 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: our super producer and research associate for today's episode, mister 695 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: Max Williams. 696 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 3: Huge thanks to Alex Williams who composed this Slam and 697 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: jam and bam and bob you're listening to at this 698 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: very moment. Chris frasciotis here in spirit, Eves Jeff Coats 699 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 3: traversing this wild world. 700 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland aka the Quister aka the John Travolta of 701 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous history. 702 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, except no point hell which it is swordfish. 703 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: Our personal Yeah, Crumdone would also be a really good 704 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 3: name for like a bald Bond villain m perhaps with 705 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: some sort of implant, like. 706 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: A metal are a he Man action figure? Oh definitely, yeah, 707 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: no question because they really kind of with basic with 708 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: the universe of he Man. That's the name of the 709 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: may character. We've talked about this, It's totally true. Why 710 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: is it she row anyway? 711 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in a raw stand for it sounds like 712 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: a like a battle cry. Yeah, We'll see you next time. 713 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: Books. 714 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts, 715 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.