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Speaker 4: I hope you had a Falcons so at night we're
Speaker 4: gonna get to that. The Falcons sort of through a
Speaker 4: little wrench in the plans of a few teams in
Speaker 4: the NFC. We're gonna talk about Josh Allen's meet today.
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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold. I have a theory on him, but let's
Speaker 4: let's dive into it. The Rams last night, truth be told,
Speaker 4: it's that taint of the holiday season. No one's really
Speaker 4: honed in and it was a one day night game
Speaker 4: that didn't have much significance on paper. Because the NFC West,
Speaker 4: we all know the winner of the forty nine or
Speaker 4: Seahawks has.
Speaker 2: Your one seed. Yeah, so the Rams are chilling there.
Speaker 4: In fact, there's been rumors are they going to shut
Speaker 4: down DeVonta Adams until the playoffs. There's a sense of, well,
Speaker 4: there's really not that much on the line tonight. So
Speaker 4: I didn't hone into the beginning of the game. I
Speaker 4: was checking on my phone. I was grabbing some food,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I have seven nothing? Who fourteen nothing?
Speaker 2: Oh? Hold now wait, twenty one nothing Falcons.
Speaker 4: Then I'm looking at the box garm like it's anyone playing,
Speaker 4: Like what is what's going on in your defense?
Speaker 3: That all happen kind of quick. Yeah, they came out
Speaker 3: and took charge of the game, for sure.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe my eyes. But I'm like, twenty one nothing.
Speaker 4: And then they're mounting a comeback, which a better team
Speaker 4: usually does. They'll find a way to find their way
Speaker 4: back in. And here we are, end of the game.
Speaker 4: Falcons go ahead field goal and you're thinking, man, the
Speaker 4: Rams are gonna drop one, and and then you realize, well,
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford does have a little time on the clock.
Speaker 4: And I feel like, three plays in a row they
Speaker 4: had an opportunity. Do you not feel the same way?
Speaker 2: There was three controversial plays in a row for sure.
Speaker 4: First Stafford just misses a wide receiver that gets open,
Speaker 4: like like big time open, like miss is by a
Speaker 4: step and a half and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: that could have been for six.
Speaker 3: All right, next play, I think, yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: threw it in the right spot. The runner the receiver
Speaker 3: just didn't get there, yeah quick enough, Like the ball
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 2: It was close.
Speaker 3: It could have happened. Maybe the timing was off a
Speaker 3: little bit, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was there, could have could have went their way
Speaker 2: but didn't. Then you see.
Speaker 4: Ah appearance that doesn't get called, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: it was like Danny g.
Speaker 2: You were texting us like yo, arm was held down man.
Speaker 5: To be fair, when it happened, it was close. It happened,
Speaker 5: they were saying in real time.
Speaker 3: It was hard to see, but it was really noticeable
Speaker 3: for us at home that that was passing question, no doubt.
Speaker 5: Actually, if you're a judge on the field, you should
Speaker 5: be able to maybe spot that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obvious, those twice Rich It was like almost two
Speaker 3: times that happened on that same play.
Speaker 4: Those those type of plays bang bang. If it gets called,
Speaker 4: you're not shocked. But if it doesn't get called, you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: could have been, but it.
Speaker 3: Made it obvious too. It was it was like a
Speaker 3: one handed grab and it didn't have to be. The
Speaker 3: only reason it was one handed grab is because his
Speaker 3: other arm was being held.
Speaker 4: So you're like, all right, those are two chances where
Speaker 4: if your rams it was kind of obvious. If your
Speaker 4: rams are You're like, oh damn, that's two opportunities squandered.
Speaker 4: Then Buka Nakua, who was one of the coolst dudes.
Speaker 4: We've had him on the show a couple times in
Speaker 4: the last year. What a competitor, What a competitor, What
Speaker 4: a real fun nice guy. I'm a big fan of Pooka.
Speaker 4: Here he is making one of the most ridiculous possible
Speaker 4: catches you've seen in your life.
Speaker 2: Again, this guy's hands are unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And all the little movement and it goes from circus
Speaker 4: sideline catch field goal range two.
Speaker 2: Runner was out of you know, you see what was out?
Speaker 3: You know they looked like such an amazing catch, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't.
Speaker 4: And here we are, games over and I wanted to
Speaker 4: just start the show.
Speaker 2: Rich, I do want to make this clear.
Speaker 3: Yeah they got the call, right, I mean, yeah, if
Speaker 3: you weren't watching, You're casually watching. They got the call right,
Speaker 3: but from first glance it looked like he had it.
Speaker 2: It was sort of pulled.
Speaker 3: It was again props to their deceiving receiving team defensive team,
Speaker 3: because it was pulled from his hands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, aren't there times when you'll be like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: just give it to him. Yeah, credible stylistically, Like in
Speaker 4: my mind, I'm like, it was such a good almost catch.
Speaker 4: I know that's not how the games played, but this party,
Speaker 4: that's like, ID give it to him? I mean, Jesus,
Speaker 4: the guy had on his way down. It was sort
Speaker 4: of pulled out for a split ridiculous and.
Speaker 5: Right before it got pulled out and knocked out there
Speaker 5: at the very end of the play, he squeezed that
Speaker 5: like a NERF football with one big paw one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would snag, no doubt. That would have been
Speaker 2: the catch of the year.
Speaker 4: So I come in here this morning to let the
Speaker 4: world know I'd still be very scared of the Rams.
Speaker 4: Let me explain why I'm a Niners fan. We're looking
Speaker 4: at the NFC as a very wide open place. You
Speaker 4: got the Eagles, who Jalen Hurts didn't throw for one
Speaker 4: yard in the.
Speaker 2: Second half the other day.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone Kumino is convinced about your
Speaker 4: defending champs to Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: That's no one's like.
Speaker 4: Well, they got a clear path. I don't think anyone's
Speaker 4: thinking that the Bucks Panthers there's a little wrinkle put
Speaker 4: in that because of last night. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you realize if you're a schedule watching and all that
Speaker 4: stuff like I am, we've been talking about the little
Speaker 4: percentages because the Falcons won last night and no one
Speaker 4: really thought that would happen. Do you know that if
Speaker 4: the Falcons beat the Saints on Sunday, that Panthers Bucks
Speaker 4: game is irrelevant and Carolina would be your division champ
Speaker 4: no matter what. Baker can have the game of his
Speaker 4: life Saturday and be like, man, the Bucks are back
Speaker 4: to five hundred and yet the Panthers would still win
Speaker 4: that division if the Falcons win again on Sunday.
Speaker 2: And that's likely.
Speaker 3: Man, it seems like the Falcons are playing well at
Speaker 3: just the right time. Three in a row now, Cousins
Speaker 3: looking good, Robinson looking unstoppable.
Speaker 2: By the way, I was thinking.
Speaker 3: Yesterday, if you were to put a top three running
Speaker 3: back out there, who would it be? Just want top three?
Speaker 3: Top three? I mean, obviously your boy Christian mccafcaffrey. Would
Speaker 3: you still put Saquon Barkley in there?
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 4: That's a good one, I think. And then the way
Speaker 4: Derek Henry was Derek Derek Henry the other day. But
Speaker 4: then you could say, if you talk about the first
Speaker 4: half of the year, Jonathan Taylor, but not second half
Speaker 4: of the year.
Speaker 2: Not second half of the year Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3: No. Yeah, I was thinking all this because you know
Speaker 3: why I was thinking that, because Saquon Barkley and your boy,
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey are I think it's a State farm commercial.
Speaker 2: They're in a commercial.
Speaker 3: Together, and I'm thinking, well, who else could have been
Speaker 3: in that commercial? They're at a commercial side by side, and
Speaker 3: they're pretty much the same size, and I was sizing
Speaker 3: them up, and I'm like, Derek Henry would beast over
Speaker 3: those guys.
Speaker 2: But who would be the top three? Anyway?
Speaker 3: Just a random side thought, well, you know what, the
Speaker 3: Falcons look good. Back to that point, it seems like
Speaker 3: they're putting it together at the right time.
Speaker 4: Wells kirk Cousins proved that he has a little left
Speaker 4: in the tank or what I mean I think so,
Speaker 4: I think they're just playing well under him. He's leading team. Well,
Speaker 4: they're seven and nine, three in a row. But I
Speaker 4: want you to keep I want to keep something in mine. No,
Speaker 4: you're like the Falcons. If they win, they play the Saints,
Speaker 4: who you're like, the Saints are trashed. The Saints have
Speaker 4: won four in a row, exactly like the Saints are.
Speaker 5: You know, a very young quarterback, Shuck is being talked
Speaker 5: about as offensive rookie of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's six and ten down.
Speaker 4: I bet you, hit, I bet you that if there
Speaker 4: was one more month of the season, that division could
Speaker 4: flip because the Bucks have fallen apart. Carolina is showing
Speaker 4: that they're like a five hundred team. But the Saints
Speaker 4: and the Falcons, who are both under five hundred, are
Speaker 4: the two hottest teams in that division. So I think
Speaker 4: that division is a disaster. So yeah, just it's interesting
Speaker 4: to see what team will sort of back into that
Speaker 4: that playoff spot. Someone's going to win it at eight
Speaker 4: and nine or nine and eight. Like we said, it's
Speaker 4: a bad division.
Speaker 5: There's a scenario where the Panthers could host a wild
Speaker 5: card game and they'd be what eight and nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did they could be eight and nine.
Speaker 5: You guys have a problem with a team that's under
Speaker 5: five hundred hosting a playoff game.
Speaker 4: We've talked about this on our regular It doesn't look out,
Speaker 4: it doesn't.
Speaker 2: You make it, You make it right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's almost like, you know, there are times your
Speaker 4: team wins a division in baseball, winning eighty eight to
Speaker 4: ninety games, and you host a better wild card.
Speaker 2: It happens, right, It's just.
Speaker 3: It's and honestly, the way this year has been, it
Speaker 3: kind of would make sense. It kind of would go
Speaker 3: with the whole vibe and feeling of this entire season.
Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, if if things stay the way they are,
Speaker 4: I think that crappy South team, whether it's Carolina or
Speaker 4: the Bucks, would end up hosting like the Rams. It's
Speaker 4: like a better to twelve plus win team, which is
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's the point.
Speaker 2: Do they deserve it? No?
Speaker 4: But it's how you it's how the divisions are set.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to point out how the Rams Couldno.
Speaker 3: Colin in Canada is hit in a su Yeah again,
Speaker 3: the YouTube chat is popping Covino and rich FSR to
Speaker 3: see us live see our tired faces. A lot of
Speaker 3: boozing and schmoozing during the taint of the holidays, He says,
Speaker 3: Cousin through for like one hundred and twenty five yards.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they've been playing solid behind him. I just
Speaker 3: have some good moments. Again, I'm not saying he's the reason. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not saying he's the reason, but you know, leadership, you
Speaker 3: know guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm trying to just feel good for Kirk Cousins
Speaker 4: for a minute.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean he's easy to root for, so yeah, I
Speaker 3: am pulling for the guy. Is it coincidence they've been
Speaker 3: winning since he's been playing Willhelm and a Criner Green
Speaker 3: for eight seven seven says I wonder if ten years
Speaker 3: ago that Puka Nakua catch would have been a fair catch.
Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing, and I was thinking, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: that would have been I think so anyway, and.
Speaker 2: Morning fell as.
Speaker 3: A lot of people Devanty Adams more impactful than I thought.
Speaker 2: That's what Ashley Riolo saying. That's a that's a big sentiment.
Speaker 4: And Danny and I looked it up before the show
Speaker 4: because there's a few guys where you and we're gonna
Speaker 4: get to this later in the show.
Speaker 2: Where as we enter week eighteen.
Speaker 4: You know who's gonna who's gonna rest up and get
Speaker 4: ready for the postseason, and whether or not he's able
Speaker 4: to come back. It appears as though the Rams are
Speaker 4: gonna have Devonte Adams just good to go wildcard weekend.
Speaker 4: There's no point now to push Devonte Adams because there's
Speaker 4: no the Rams path and where they are.
Speaker 2: Is not changing. They're not gonna they can't win the division.
Speaker 4: Whoever wins forty nine ers hosting the Seahawks as your
Speaker 4: division winner and one seed. The Rams are a wildcard regardless.
Speaker 4: So and your point, why I played DeVonta Adams now?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You know, if they're keeping him healthy, why I play
Speaker 3: him now? They're still going to be dangerous as a
Speaker 3: wild card. I'll tell you why don't sleep on the
Speaker 3: Rams because they could have easily pulled away with that game,
Speaker 3: even though they started rough. They had a few bad
Speaker 3: calls or questionable questionable calls, borderline calls where things could
Speaker 3: have been different. So are they as dangerous as we
Speaker 3: think or not at all? Well, I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2: I agree with Rich.
Speaker 3: I mean I think they could have easily won that game.
Speaker 3: Poka Nakua ultimate competitor. Stafford still doing his thing. He
Speaker 3: was off put it that way on an off night.
Speaker 3: I guess that really sums up on an off night.
Speaker 3: They still almost won that game.
Speaker 4: I mean, Matthew Stafford may have lost points and lost
Speaker 4: you know, his path to the MVP. He had a
Speaker 4: rough couple games over the last month. The Rams dropped
Speaker 4: a couple in a row. Matthew Stafford at one point,
Speaker 4: remember his interception to touchdown ratio was like thirty somethings,
Speaker 4: like a couple interceptions. It was Aaron Rodgers like in
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers Prime. He's had a couple games with multiple
Speaker 4: picks over the last month. So now Stafford has forty
Speaker 4: two toundies, eight interceptions, still MVP numbers, but there's a
Speaker 4: lot of Drake maychatter. Now is he your MVP? I
Speaker 4: want to just point out four quick games according.
Speaker 2: To memes, he's the league leader, and memes never lie.
Speaker 2: Memes never lie. Let me get Drake May's your MVP
Speaker 2: as of now.
Speaker 4: Let me hit you with four quick instances where the
Speaker 4: Rams sort of of bluid because you look at the
Speaker 4: NFC going into the playoffs, and Danny, I think you
Speaker 4: agree that no one's scared of the Eagles.
Speaker 5: No, No, maybe they're defense, but not the Eagles offense.
Speaker 4: No one's scared of whoever comes out of that South.
Speaker 4: Whether it's like I said, the Panthers of the Bucks
Speaker 4: that they're at best a five hundred team, and I
Speaker 4: think out of the North, this question marks with green Bay.
Speaker 4: Jordan Love one of those guys that might sit until
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Green Bay looks like, well, what's going on there?
Speaker 4: I think as I'm a Niners fan, so look I'm
Speaker 4: looking at from a perspective of who do I think
Speaker 4: is dangerous? And I think I think I think watching
Speaker 4: the other night, I think the Bears could very easily
Speaker 4: have won that game.
Speaker 3: The Bears are dangerous. Can I take back what I said?
Speaker 3: You're Niners and Bears offense. It looks dangerous defense on
Speaker 3: both teams.
Speaker 2: Question, it's a.
Speaker 4: Matter of like, couldn't eat Eagles defense stop a Bears
Speaker 4: or forty nine offense, right, but they.
Speaker 3: Could score And if if the forty nine Ers could
Speaker 3: just stop one drive throughout the game, it seems like
Speaker 3: they score every other drive, so they'll be fine scoring,
Speaker 3: but if they can make one stop, they'll win the game.
Speaker 4: It's like an NBA team that you know is gonna
Speaker 4: put up one twenty just like hold your opponent.
Speaker 2: Like you know, just a new turnovers.
Speaker 3: You just need you just need something to happen and
Speaker 3: you win because the defense is questionable.
Speaker 2: But the Rams.
Speaker 4: Let me let me go over the Rams, because you know,
Speaker 4: there's seasons where a team catches a bunch of good breaks.
Speaker 4: We've talked about, you know, Minnesota in the past, and
Speaker 4: the Chiefs were a couple of years you felt like
Speaker 4: every every last minute field goal or turnover, or or
Speaker 4: fortune or good bounce went their way. I think the
Speaker 4: Rams are a really good team that had four games,
Speaker 4: and I know you can't isolate one play, but there's
Speaker 4: four games I've noted where it could have just very
Speaker 4: well went the other way for the Rams. And the
Speaker 4: Rams are gonna end up being a wild card. There's
Speaker 4: still a very danger team in the NFC, I think.
Speaker 4: But right now the Rams are eleven to five. They'll
Speaker 4: probably beat the Cardinals even if they rest people Week eighteen.
Speaker 4: So they're twelve and five team, but four of those
Speaker 4: losses they're lining up for a game winning field goal
Speaker 4: that's totally in range. It's blocked and returned for a
Speaker 4: touchdown by the Eagles. They lose on the last play
Speaker 4: of the game. So Eagles win on a play where
Speaker 4: the Rams were lining up for a game winning field goal.
Speaker 4: So no block in return, you win. You win that game,
Speaker 4: you beat the Eagles. They played my forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Remember the overtime game where Mac Jones was like limping
Speaker 4: around like like he was a warrior. Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: the game where the Rams fumbled. If you remember the
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers forced to fumble on like the one
Speaker 4: foot line. Went to overtime and they went for it
Speaker 4: on fourth down and the Niners stopped them. So that's
Speaker 4: another game where it's like the Niners just got a
Speaker 4: little lot o Rams did not. That's two games that
Speaker 4: Rams on paper tick should have won that game, Sam
Speaker 4: Donald going for two in overtime, a game where the
Speaker 4: Seahawks somehow found a way to come back force force overtime,
Speaker 4: and then they went for two. And then last night
Speaker 4: we saw it a missed a missed route, a pass interference,
Speaker 4: and pooking the coop on the sideline. Those are four games.
Speaker 2: All hold on.
Speaker 3: I hate to stay for four games, dude. I know
Speaker 3: that you can argue that for every team. I know
Speaker 3: when in baseball you get it right in that sentence.
Speaker 3: You know, the Seahawks found a way to win. That's
Speaker 3: what championship caliber teams do. I'm not saying the Rams
Speaker 3: can't do that, but that's part of the game, right,
Speaker 3: finding a way to win, that's how you do it.
Speaker 2: You got to figure it out.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they've come close, but they didn't pull it
Speaker 3: through Sam Donald. Seahawks, you're forty nine ers. We've seen
Speaker 3: them be able to do that a few times. So
Speaker 3: that's just the difference. Yeah, they've been in every game
Speaker 3: and you can say they're tough, but they haven't been
Speaker 3: able to win. So they're still in the wild card.
Speaker 3: There's still dangerous, they're still very good. They still make
Speaker 3: it very close. They got to get those those plays
Speaker 3: to make it happen, those ways to make it win.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned with Sam Donald, who we're going to
Speaker 3: talk about yeah later on, because you know, where does
Speaker 3: he fall into, where does he fall into the history
Speaker 3: as far as elite quarterback?
Speaker 2: Where do you how do you view Sam Donald?
Speaker 4: Because I think it all depends on this postseason because
Speaker 4: I think that he's like one of the most confusing
Speaker 4: people to assess.
Speaker 3: But dude, Tide's turn and luck starts to bounce the
Speaker 3: other way, and you know, anything could happen. You're right,
Speaker 3: those games could have gone either way. You could say this,
Speaker 3: the Rams are good. I mean, the Rams are dangerous.
Speaker 4: Cheeks just set us up on the on the intro
Speaker 4: chat and he goes, yeah, Rich, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 4: But he's like if my if my aunt had balls,
Speaker 4: she'd be my uncle.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It sounds a little bit like that, especially when you
Speaker 3: get it bring up the Seahawks in that sense.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying this four very specific incidents where you
Speaker 4: can be like all the Rams were a block away
Speaker 4: or you know, like again, let me just remind they
Speaker 4: don't stink. The Rams do not stinks. These little things
Speaker 4: aren't going their way. Yeah, you could say the good
Speaker 4: team finds a way to win, but sometimes you just
Speaker 4: luck isn't on your side. Again a game winning field
Speaker 4: goal blocked and returned by the Eagles. The forty nine
Speaker 4: Ers beat them in overtime, where the Rams had a
Speaker 4: turnover and a fourth down blown play. The Seahawks beating
Speaker 4: them in overtime, when the Seahawks you know, mounted a
Speaker 4: comeback and then went for two in overtime. And then
Speaker 4: last night when they were favored in Atlanta, came back,
Speaker 4: but then on the last drive, three plays in a
Speaker 4: row just caught some type of like ooh, a no
Speaker 4: call and a wide open receiver and the coup on
Speaker 4: the sideline. I'm just saying this, four instances where this team,
Speaker 4: even if they won two of those games, they'd be
Speaker 4: the one seed and we'd be like, well, Stafford and
Speaker 4: they're going, man, they're headed, They're headed. I'm still scared
Speaker 4: of the Rams, is my point, and I think we
Speaker 4: all should be. If you're a fan of the the Bears,
Speaker 4: the Packers, the Seahawks, the Niners. Do not think that
Speaker 4: the Rams have fallen off. They have just you know, no,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: What's crazy, Covino really quick if if at Well wasn't
Speaker 5: interfered with and caught that long pass and the Rams wind.
Speaker 2: Up going into the end zone there in the red zone.
Speaker 5: Then this morning we're talking about how even though he
Speaker 5: had a couple of turnovers, Stafford is your clear MVP.
Speaker 4: That one play that's it. It's that's why we said
Speaker 4: about it. It's just such a game of inches and
Speaker 4: little little bit like Josh Allen. Right, the narrative of
Speaker 4: Josh Allen if he hits, if he hits the receiver
Speaker 4: in the back corner on that two point conversion, We're saying, like, man,
Speaker 4: buffalo of struggle. But man, they found the way to
Speaker 4: beat the Eagles. Josh Allen, Man, what a game or
Speaker 4: fourth quarter? But instead the narrative is, man, but Josh
Speaker 4: Allen missed the guy in the end zone, Like is
Speaker 4: this not.
Speaker 2: The year for them? Time?
Speaker 3: Man, it was just not the year for him. Like
Speaker 3: it's all these little plays. So these little things add
Speaker 3: up and they matter, especially now. That's really what it
Speaker 3: comes down to. I'm just thinking baseball, Rich, how when
Speaker 3: we try to hype baseball up to everybody during the postseason,
Speaker 3: like every pitch counts, man, every little thing matters. That's
Speaker 3: really what we're getting at here, especially as we come
Speaker 3: down to the season. You know, every little play, every
Speaker 3: little thing is speculated out. I mean, they do matter,
Speaker 3: They absolutely matter. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4: I've I've heard people talk about this, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: LeVar from two Pros and a cup of joe playing
Speaker 4: that being that he played in the NFL and big
Speaker 4: time college star pro bowler, you could probably attest to
Speaker 4: what the differences between the regular season, postseason and then
Speaker 4: like a super Bowl, Because when you do look about,
Speaker 4: when you look at like who's going to the postseason,
Speaker 4: do you say to yourself, well, Jalen Hurts has been
Speaker 4: there in one party and the Niners and that core
Speaker 4: has unfortunately been there a few times we couldn't get
Speaker 4: the job done. Do you give those teams with that
Speaker 4: postseason experience? Stafford won a Super Bowl? Mcveigh's been there.
Speaker 4: Do you give those teams a leg up on Caleb
Speaker 4: and Ben Johnson who are like it's almost like a
Speaker 4: fan base in Chicago that's like just sort of happy
Speaker 4: to now be in the mix and Seattle where it's like, yo,
Speaker 4: no one expected this. Do those teams with experience just
Speaker 4: have something like an intangible level of experience.
Speaker 3: Or do you not buy into that as a fan?
Speaker 3: I buy into it as a player. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: how much it matters, right because there's different teams playing
Speaker 3: behind those guys. But as the leader, as the quarterback
Speaker 3: of the team, I mean I think It does make
Speaker 3: a difference to have been there and done that, to
Speaker 3: have that confidence and poise about you. But I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if as a player and being on the field
Speaker 3: it matters all that much.
Speaker 4: I've heard people argue that that experience means a lot.
Speaker 2: So listen, what we'll talk some rams.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talking about Sam Darnold and again Josh Allen's meat.
Speaker 4: What does that even mean. We'll get to all that
Speaker 4: and your thoughts on the Rams. They I'm arguing that
Speaker 4: they are still arguably one of the most dangerous teams,
Speaker 4: just because you know, again, bad luck is a part
Speaker 4: of sports.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 4: Sometimes the better team. You can say the better team
Speaker 4: always wins, But sometimes I don't think the better team wins.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think, you know, a couple of bad bounces,
Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes a guy could fumble Covino, the
Speaker 4: ball bounces right back up into his arms. Sometimes the
Speaker 4: guy fumbles, the ball bounces into into the air. You know,
Speaker 4: sometimes in interceptions, tipped up pick six the other way.
Speaker 3: Otherwise the way part of their comeback was a special
Speaker 3: team's blocked kick that way right back into his arms.
Speaker 2: That was awesome.
Speaker 4: So your thoughts on the rams and who you look
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Speaker 4: Hey, we talked a lot about the Rams and are
Speaker 4: they still very dangerous?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Have they caught some tough breaks in four games? I
Speaker 4: pointed out that could very well have went the other way. Yes,
Speaker 4: But as you said, covenable championship teams find a way
Speaker 4: to finish well.
Speaker 3: Truth is and our listeners said it too on the
Speaker 3: chat Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube. You could say
Speaker 3: that or make this argument for a lot of teams. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, had this happen, had that happen. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just the name of the game.
Speaker 4: So it's like at the end of one hundred and
Speaker 4: sixty two game baseball season, you'll be like, if my
Speaker 4: closer didn't blow this game, this game, in that game,
Speaker 4: you could go round the league and every fan.
Speaker 2: Will tell you, well, you don't think my closer blue games?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but are the Rams good? I
Speaker 3: get what you're trying to say. I'm not debating that
Speaker 3: at all. Yeah they're good, and yeah they were in
Speaker 3: the game, and yeah they made a nice comeback.
Speaker 2: But you know what, all these special teams came through
Speaker 2: a few times.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 4: It also proves when you see Philadelphia held scoreless in
Speaker 4: the second half and vulnerable offensively even though they were
Speaker 4: great defense.
Speaker 2: When you see the Rams like look at.
Speaker 4: Flat as hell last night, and then you see the
Speaker 4: Niners scored almost fifty points a week, but they can't
Speaker 4: stop anyone.
Speaker 2: Same with the Bears.
Speaker 4: There's there's a sense of I mean, I soundly Chris
Speaker 4: Harrison ten years ago in the Bachelor, this might be
Speaker 4: the most exciting season ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still get the feeling like it's anyone's season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, would you be shocked if I'm gonna throw teams
Speaker 4: out there? Would you be shocked if you saw them
Speaker 4: in San Francisco beginning of February at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: If I said, y'all, dude, the Bears and Ben Johnson
Speaker 4: and Caleb make a run.
Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 4: If I said, if I said, Seattle, who's been a
Speaker 4: steady consistent all year long, wouldn't be shocked. Stafford and
Speaker 4: the Rams, Niners, and Purty and Kyle Shanahan. You wouldn't
Speaker 4: be shocked by any of this. You wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 4: if the Eagles went back. So that makes it so much.
Speaker 4: I think it's as fun as it's ever been. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, some people are saying on the chat now
Speaker 4: I'm very interactive this morning that the Patriots or Broncos
Speaker 4: guys forget about the NFC. This is an AFC year,
Speaker 4: so we shall see Drake May one of your MVP candidates.
Speaker 4: It would be wild if the Broncos found the way
Speaker 4: to win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was gonna say it, sure feels like
Speaker 5: the Chargers may hand the Broncos the number one seed.
Speaker 4: And the Broncos with that number one seed. Correct me
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, let me check. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be I don't want to be wrong. We're feeling for
Speaker 4: Dan Patrick crew goodness sake.
Speaker 2: Oh yeap.
Speaker 4: The Broncos finally dropped one at home. Remember they they
Speaker 4: were the only Yeah, we called it. Yeah, we said
Speaker 4: the Jags were going to have a statement game. When
Speaker 4: the Jags went into Denver, by the way, that also
Speaker 4: proves how vulnerable they are. And even though we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: the one seed is gonna be Denver, and you know,
Speaker 4: New England's right.
Speaker 2: There, what about the two teams in the AFC South.
Speaker 4: You're tell me right now you'd be comfortable betting against
Speaker 4: Houston or Jacksonville right now?
Speaker 2: Hell no.
Speaker 4: So I think this is so wide open. We're about
Speaker 4: to get some of the best football we've ever.
Speaker 3: Had, really good teams. There's only one, maybe maybe two
Speaker 3: standout teams. And I'm thinking exactly what you said, Broncos Patriots.
Speaker 3: They've been solid pretty much the whole year. But dude,
Speaker 3: coming up, but we're just not sold on them for
Speaker 3: whatever reason. Well, I'm not saying I disagree with you,
Speaker 3: but when you think about the Broncos, yeah, they just
Speaker 3: sort of snuck by the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: What was that Christmas Day? Right? And before that they
Speaker 2: beat they lost to the Jags convincingly.
Speaker 4: And the Jags and the Texans are your two hottest
Speaker 4: teams out of the FC right now, you could argue,
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I'm I'm I'm real big on
Speaker 4: this being such a fantastic postseason.
Speaker 2: So we're in luck.
Speaker 4: I think we all reaped the benefits of each team
Speaker 4: having a clear vulnerability, but each team having a major
Speaker 4: strength that could whoop someone's ass. So what a great
Speaker 4: postseason we're about to hit on?
Speaker 5: You know how wild this year is. There's a headline
Speaker 5: that says Texans playoff scenario. Texans could wind up being
Speaker 5: the number one seed in the AFC or be out
Speaker 5: of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Think about that. That's insane. How could this happen? The Texans?
Speaker 2: The text? The Texans Texans? The text?
Speaker 4: I mean, the Texans have already clinched any but there's
Speaker 4: a scenario where they're the ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was this was prior to Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 5: was prior to last week's games. But that's how crazy
Speaker 5: the year was going into week seventeen.
Speaker 4: Bro, look at just the swing in the strike let
Speaker 4: me you know how the when you see the standings,
Speaker 4: that shows you the streaks, right, Like I know you
Speaker 4: love in baseball communa where it's like last ten games
Speaker 4: gives you a little taste of it, you know in
Speaker 4: the NBA. Also, like how they've done over the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. You can't do that in the NFL
Speaker 4: because it's only seventeen games, eight in a row. But
Speaker 4: Houston's won eight in a row. Yeah, the Jags have
Speaker 4: won seven in a row and the Colts have lost
Speaker 4: six in a row. That division over the last six weeks.
Speaker 2: Like just flipped one to eighty.
Speaker 4: Like you you know, it's there was a time where
Speaker 4: you and I and not just us, Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd,
Speaker 4: all the most respected people on this network. We're all
Speaker 4: talking about you know, Daniel Jones got the juice to
Speaker 4: go all the way, Shane steichen And and Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 4: was rushing for like one hundred and twenty yards a game,
Speaker 4: and now he's rushing for like seventy yards a game.
Speaker 2: There was a.
Speaker 4: Moment where we all shame on us, as George Bush
Speaker 4: once said, fool me once.
Speaker 2: Shame on you can't get full begin We were all.
Speaker 4: Seriously having a conversation on whether or not the Indianapolis
Speaker 4: Colts could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Someone also on once threw a shoe at George Bush.
Speaker 2: So look out with your statement.
Speaker 3: That is true, throwing a shoe at you, man, Because
Speaker 3: there's plenty of articles out there and plenty of stories
Speaker 3: of the Colts just playing two seasons in one. It
Speaker 3: really was. They had a really great start. Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: goes down. They were struggling a little bit before that,
Speaker 3: and they've been struggling ever since.
Speaker 4: Seven in a row, Tokyoki, six in a row, six
Speaker 4: losses in a row. Tokyoki hit us up and he
Speaker 4: goes the cult season. It's like that famous horse meme
Speaker 4: where one side is drawn perfect and the other side
Speaker 4: is drawn by a toddler. Yeah, that's the Cult season.
Speaker 4: It really is, like, how could you be seven to
Speaker 4: one and then eight and two. At one point, you know,
Speaker 4: you win one, you lose one, and now all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, you're like on the outside looking in. At
Speaker 4: one point when they were seven to one, I believe
Speaker 4: their percentage to make the postseason was ninety eight points
Speaker 4: something like something absurd, where you know you're making it,
Speaker 4: it's got to win. Like when they were eight and two,
Speaker 4: you could argue, you win two more games, you get,
Speaker 4: you get to ten wins, and you're you're likely finding
Speaker 4: a way.
Speaker 2: They can't even they can't even put it together, dude,
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the desperate measures.
Speaker 3: The Colts had a dude to Steven compete And we
Speaker 3: said it yesterday and everyone's saying it. Philip Rivers did
Speaker 3: everything he could. He did everything he could. Their defense
Speaker 3: couldn't really step up. He did everything he could keep
Speaker 3: the the.
Speaker 2: In the game really to give him a puncher's chance.
Speaker 4: You know, as I as I look forward to the
Speaker 4: wild card weekend, Danny G I'm not looking past the
Speaker 4: week E team because says a hell of a lot
Speaker 4: of great football, including you know, we'll talk about all
Speaker 4: these games. You gotta keep your eye on nine or Seahawks, Ravens, Steelers,
Speaker 4: I mean Saturday God, Panthers, Bucks.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking past all that.
Speaker 5: I can't wait, can't wait to see what Herbert's gonna do.
Speaker 2: As he just sits there and chills.
Speaker 4: I I do want to say that, I, by the way.
Speaker 2: Is that is that a smart move? I know we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to that, but like, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, say, you know, say that we're gonna
Speaker 4: get to who's sitting and who's resting and whether or
Speaker 4: not it's a good idea next. But I want to
Speaker 4: point out that I assume, and this is my bad assumption.
Speaker 4: This is you know, what are they miss You assume
Speaker 4: even an assay, you and me, that old stupid statement.
Speaker 4: I assume way too often that other people revolve their
Speaker 4: weekends around football, Like I do you ever notice how
Speaker 4: stuff keeps popping up on your calendar? And you does
Speaker 4: no one care as much as I do? Like Saturday
Speaker 4: January tenth or eleventh, like people plan things And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's like wildcar weekend or divisional weekend. In my mind,
Speaker 4: January is designated like the weekends.
Speaker 2: Don't bother me.
Speaker 4: It's NFL playoffs in January leading up to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Do you want to I guess the answer here?
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Rich, I completely agree, I'm like, what
Speaker 3: the heck's going on? I'm not my Mayni. Life still
Speaker 3: has to move forward. I'm not a maniac.
Speaker 4: But like when someone's like, yeah, we're having tiledged birthday party,
Speaker 4: you know, Sunday the eleventh, I'm like, yeah, well, guess what.
Speaker 4: Dad's not going to be there this guy, you know,
Speaker 4: the flag football games for my kids, or baseball evaluations
Speaker 4: for the spring season, I'm like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Like football is on, do you not watch? What the
Speaker 2: hell are you watching?
Speaker 3: Not every family is as invested as you and yours,
Speaker 3: especially if mom's making the plans not to be sexist strokes.
Speaker 3: But you know, I feel like Dad might be a
Speaker 3: weenie in this situation.
Speaker 4: Well, hey, your thoughts on the NFL as we get
Speaker 4: close to the playoffs, we do have a thought on
Speaker 4: resting players and we'll get to all that next Coveno
Speaker 4: and Rich and for the late, the great legendary Dan
Speaker 4: Patrick right here.
Speaker 2: On g retiring yet yah yah geez.
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Speaker 3: this New Year's now.
Speaker 2: Actually I'll be home before that.
Speaker 4: You're in charge of sour cream, right, you just scored
Speaker 4: everyone with sour cream.
Speaker 2: He's got bacon bits in his pocket. I do thank you, Danny.
Speaker 2: That sounds safer.
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Speaker 4: slash at Covino on Rich I saw a funny meme, Covino.
Speaker 4: It was just, you know, a swipe of like ten
Speaker 4: different memes. I heard you laughing out loud.
Speaker 3: Rich is like the guy on the plane that laughs
Speaker 3: out loud, just hoping that everyone notices him having a blast,
Speaker 3: having a grand live.
Speaker 4: O.
Speaker 2: What's going on there?
Speaker 4: Oh, nothing, It's just we forget how quickly you know
Speaker 4: of sports where a year moves along, Like I saw
Speaker 4: someone recap all the big stories and headlines from twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five, and some of these things I totally forgot happened,
Speaker 4: just because it seems like a long time ago, but
Speaker 4: it's it's been this year, but it was NFL moments
Speaker 4: like oh, I'll never forget. It's like I'll never forget
Speaker 4: Week one through five, Baker Mayfield, I'll never forget, you know,
Speaker 4: first half of the year, Jonathan Taylor, and it's just
Speaker 4: all like all the highs and lows of an NFL season,
Speaker 4: Like I'll never I'll never forget weeks five and six,
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne, I'll never forget Trey McBride at the one
Speaker 4: point of the season, Like there were there were moments
Speaker 4: in the season that feel like a different season because
Speaker 4: narratives change week to week to week, and we've talked
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 3: I think we were saying Daniel Jones MVP at one
Speaker 3: point and back, oh, we were definitely saying Mayfield MVP
Speaker 3: at one point. And now they lost four in a row.
Speaker 3: It's like their season fell apart two. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a short but long season. Manything could happened. No,
Speaker 3: they get no doubt.
Speaker 4: Now let's go to a couple of phone calls about
Speaker 4: the NFL's we head to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And I know you and I.
Speaker 4: Had thoughts on resting players and like this. This has
Speaker 4: been a conversation every year and it always comes up
Speaker 4: like the pros and cons and.
Speaker 2: Is it right?
Speaker 4: Is it a boss move or a buns? Yeah, so
Speaker 4: let's say how to Kevin in Ohio? What's up keV?
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how's it going?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Good man? What's up? Well?
Speaker 8: First off, you can't leave the five o'clock time side,
Speaker 8: I need you on the way home.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're here, able to hear you right now.
Speaker 8: Two quick things. One from yesterday, didn't you hear from
Speaker 8: Brady Bunch never played ball in the house? And second,
Speaker 8: this NFL playoff doesn't have a villain, like, we can't
Speaker 8: there's not really anybody aside from personal hatred. Like I'm
Speaker 8: a Lions fan, so if the stadium krembles on the
Speaker 8: bears of the Packers, I'm alright with it. But aside
Speaker 8: from that, there's not really a villain.
Speaker 3: There's no why there's no there's no villain because there's
Speaker 3: no one that hatable and and everyone seems.
Speaker 2: Or appears to be vulnerable, and that's really it.
Speaker 4: I guess the closest thing to a villain is you know,
Speaker 4: Eagles and Philadelphia fans, you know, maybe aren't the you know,
Speaker 4: other people don't love him so much, so I don't
Speaker 4: think anyone's like man, I would love to see an
Speaker 4: Eagles repeat. Besides that, I feel like every other team,
Speaker 4: like even as a Niners fan, I know they have
Speaker 4: a legacy, but they haven't once in Steve Young in
Speaker 4: the nineties. So every story for every team feels like
Speaker 4: there's a cool storyline, like, oh, Sam Darnold with the
Speaker 4: Seahawks gets over the hump, Josh Allen finally wins one,
Speaker 4: the Patriots bounce back with Drake May after a dynasty,
Speaker 4: Like every team has a storyline that wouldn't really bum
Speaker 4: you out.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers wins one with the Steelers.
Speaker 3: I mean unlikely, but again every storyline, you're right, there
Speaker 3: is no villain. That's a great point, keV. Let's go
Speaker 3: to Mitch and Jersey. IMIg happy, No problem, man, what's up.
Speaker 6: These NFL game It's perfect, don't any more teams. I
Speaker 6: like the first weekend and championship is awesome. That in
Speaker 6: the super Bowl. Usually, I was kind of hoping to
Speaker 6: be forty nine ers and bos long because I'm I
Speaker 6: like the bolls of others. I kind of pulled them
Speaker 6: for the forty nine ers, and I wish they go
Speaker 6: back to most of these college football games, you know,
Speaker 6: thirty first and thirty Why is USC playing so late
Speaker 6: nine o'clock tonight? They were top sixteen, almost made the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Twelve is a good number, and nine o'clock it's it's ridiculous,
Speaker 6: you know, the sunrise and eat come on?
Speaker 4: I know, you know, I I think, uh, I think, well,
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl is fun.
Speaker 2: I think would you.
Speaker 4: Agree that divisional weekend might be the best weekend of football? Right?
Speaker 4: Divisional weekend is where it's at even wildcard now with
Speaker 4: that Monday night edition, So listen. We're entering like the
Speaker 4: most fun time of the year as far as sports watching,
Speaker 4: so we'll talk more NFL Playoffs Week eighteen, all that
Speaker 4: good stuff. Next, filling in for the great Dan, Patrick, Cavino,
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