1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show that takes you 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. Mark Vantimer and John Harris with you tonight, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: and so much to go over, really looking forward to 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: the season cap opening a week from Thursday. That just 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: sounds so soon because it is obviously big news today. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: I guess around the league nationally, I don't think anyone 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: was really expecting anything to get done today, but the 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: news that the franchise tag deadline had passed in order 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: to negotiate a deal with your tagged player. Obviously Jewon 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Clowney as the tag on him. No deal announced, so 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: we move forward. Clowney still under that tag for the 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. We'll see how that plays out going forward. 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this all offseason long. I don't 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: think there's anything more to add tonight on that other 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: than that the deadline has passed, so let's just keep 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: it going. It's an exciting time because a couple of 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: teams are reporting this week. This is pretty cool. Oh yeah, 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: that's right. Forgotten this week. I've been so focused on 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: us starting on this twenty fifth, I forgot about what 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: everybody else is reporting. Yeah, the Hall Fame teams fuckings Denver, Oh, Denver, Denver. Yeah, 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: they're yeah reporting this week? How about that? Oh it's here, Mark, 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: It's here. Yeah, Denver and Atlanta. They are the two 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: that are gonna be in the Hall of Fame game. 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: You can, so they get to report this week, right, Well, 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: you get some time because you get two weeks before 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: your first preseason game. The Hall of Fame Game is 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: now a Thursday night game. Teams love these Thursday night 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: starts to the preseason. I haven't checked everybody's schedule, but 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: I would bet so many teams, maybe the majority, are 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: playing Thursday night because you get to start camp early. 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Like I said, you get to start a two weeks 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: before your first preseason tilt. Why not start camp early? 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Coaches love this. You can always throttle back, give them 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: a few days lawf along the way, but they want 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: to see them a sap and get coaching. All right, 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: let's get to work here, as we got a lot 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: to get to Madden Rating fallout that's happening tonight. Yeahever 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Daniel as we'll talk special teams. The putter who won 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the job last year, beating out Shane Leckler, Let's talk 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: to him. We heard some of that before, but I 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: want to hear some of it tonight. And let's start 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: off here. A lot of talk about the AFC South, 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about projections. All the preseason mags 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: have come out. If you still read magazines, you see 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: in your supermarket wherever fine magazines are sold, your preseason mags. 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: You see all the predictions out there on the websites, 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: people predicting where these teams are gonna finish, who's gonna 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, who's in, who's out. Well, never mind 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: who's in and who's out, although we'll mind it for 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: sure as the season continues. But Johnny, the AFC South, 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: we say it's the toughest division in football. I've got 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: two questions for you, Okay, in no particular order, is 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: it the toughest division in football? And if it's not, 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: what's tougher or what comes close? And another question for you, 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: again in no particular order of these two, what record 56 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: is it going to take to win the AFC South. 57 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Because a lot of people are picking the Colts. Some 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: people are picking I've saw the Jags getting picked in 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: one semi notable website projection. But some people are picking 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: the Texans. I'm sure some people are. I don't know 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: if anybody's picking the Titans, but hey, why not? They 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: finished with winning records last couple of years and had 63 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: that playoff run two years ago? Why not? I guess 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: you can build a case for anybody, But what record 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: is it going to take them? With the AFC South? 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: So tackle one of those first. Okay, let's let's start 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: with the toughest division in football. I think I think 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: DFC South is as tough as it kids. Now, somebody 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: did a ranking, Maybeen dj Mayben Daniel Jeremiah was ranking 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the divisions. Yep. I think that a lot of people 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: will say the AFC West because you've got Chiefs and 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: you've got Chargers. Now you've got Raiders and Broncos. So 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: if you just matched up, if you just matched up 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs Chargers with Texans and Colts, and then you matched 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: up the Raiders and the Broncos with the Jags and 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: the Titans, I think you would end up coming out 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: of their three and one. I think you would come 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: out of their three and one or two and two 79 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: at worst. But I can see why the Chiefs went 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: to an AFC championship game last year, and the Chargers 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: got throttled in the division around to the Patriots. I mean, 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: who didn't get throttled by the Patriots. And you're projecting 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: a lot in the Raiders here right, Well, yeah, you're 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: when you're saying AFC West is better in the South, 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: you're saying, yes, the Raiders are going to take a 86 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: step or you're thinking that at some point because of 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco stepping in at Denver, Denvers had subpart quarterback 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: play the last couple of years. That's been the difference. Okay, 89 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: Denver is going to be a team that steps back up. 90 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I just think that's I think the Texans Colts are 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: closer to the Chiefs and Chargers than people think. And 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I think that the Titans and Jags are better right 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: now than the Raiders. Just thinking about I thought about 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: this when I was doing I did this when I 95 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: with you the other day, like who do you take 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: off a certain teams? Yeah? And I got to the 97 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Raiders and I was like, who do you take off 98 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: other than Antonio Brown? Like, I know the raid are 99 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a good team, they're gonna be better, but 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: who do you take off outside of Antonio Brown? So 101 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: that still tells me, Okay, you're lacking there. Denver's defense 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: is gonna Denver's gonna be like Jacksonville, So I can 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: see them being being pretty similar. But Jackson's got some 104 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: holes to fill. And that leads me to the AFC South. 105 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: I think ten and six is gonna get this division 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: this year. See I agree. I think ten and six 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: is a pretty quote safe bet to get the division. 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Eleven and five won it last year three winning teams. 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: If you have three winning teams again, there's no way 110 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a twelve and four or thirteen and three, 111 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: and so you could say, yeah, tenants six makes sense 112 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: because the Jags should be better. I think your four 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: teams are gonna be within three games and one another. 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a ten and six. I 115 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: think you'll have two nine and sevens, and I think 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna end up having a seven and nine or 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: maybe even eight eight. I think it's a salty division 118 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: from that perspective that I don't know. I mean the Titans. 119 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: The Titans owned the Jags, they own the Jags. The 120 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Texans and Colts have split, They've split other than seventeen 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: when everybody was dead seemingly they've split games. We've won there, 122 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: they've won here, We've split games, and then obviously meant 123 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs for the first time last year where the 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: colt ended winning that. But I just like it's gonna 125 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: be a division where you're not where the champion and 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: the floor the ceiling in the floor not that far apart. 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: If everybody stays healthy enough, Johnny, I think nine and 128 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: seven can win the division. I think it's gonna be 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: that tough, that kind of I think the outside the 130 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: division schedule is that tough. Now to your point, eight 131 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: and Nate was once last place. Yeah in the division. 132 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: That was the Texans in two thousand and seven. They 133 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: earned an eight and eight record and it was good 134 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: enough for a last place. My goodness, it's tough to 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: even go eight nate in this league and last in 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: your division. AFC South was bawling back down. That was 137 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the year Jacksonville beat Pittsburgh twice, including once on the 138 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: playoffs on the road. That was the year that I 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: guess the Titans went to the playoffs at tenant six 140 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: with Vince Young and the Colts with the Colts with 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Yeah, the Titans end up losing to the 142 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Titans ended up losing to the Patriots. I believe in that. 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was San Diego, but I was thinking, 144 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: oh four for the Titans lost to the to the Patriots. 145 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: You're right, all right. But before I get back to that, 146 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: and I know we're kind of bouncing around here, I 147 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: had to address your division situation. Yeah, because Greg Rosenthal 148 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: wrote something back in June, way back in June. He 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: had the AFC South ranked fifth fifth, NFC North was 150 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: the first, the NFC North. I listen, you're to me, 151 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: if you're going with the NFC North, you're bank on 152 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, Okay, the Packers are 153 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: just gonna get back a lot of this is brand 154 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: name recognition, I know. But you're also banking on the 155 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Bears being as good as the Bears were last year. Yeah, 156 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: even though they've lost Vic Fangio. I'm not a huge 157 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: believer and I have not many huge believer at Trabisky. 158 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: So are you gonna generate even more offense? Where are 159 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: you gonna squeeze more orange juice out of the orange? So, 160 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. You're also banking on the Lions being 161 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: better than than what they've been that you're you're banking 162 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: on them taking another step or more discipline under Patricia, 163 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And then you're saying, essentially, if you're 164 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: saying it's the NFC North, you're saying, oh, the Vikings 165 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: are going to come. I'll say this, There isn't. There isn't. 166 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: The NFC North doesn't scare me at all. I wish 167 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: we were facing off at the NFC North this year. Well, 168 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: I think it's a tough division, don't get me wrong, 169 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: but it's not as tough as the AFC South. You 170 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: can't tell me that. I bet the top two teams 171 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: in the AFC South finished with better records than the 172 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: top two teams in the NFSC North. I'll tell you 173 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: I would swap. I would swap right now, all day, 174 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: every day. I would swap the NFC South for the 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: NFC North. There are some teams NFC South and just said, 176 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't. The NFC North doesn't scare me like I'll go, 177 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I'll go face anything. Even if you're replacing I don't 178 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: know who you'd project to fish last. Let's say it's 179 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the Lions, doesn't doesn't matter if I'm facing If you're 180 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: the Texans and you can, you can move yourself to 181 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: the NFC North and replace the Lions. So you have 182 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: to face the Packers, Vikings, and Bears two games each. 183 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: You'd rather do that than face the AFC South this year. 184 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: The rest of the sun I don't know. No, I'm 185 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: saying I would rather be the Texans and face the 186 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: NFC North. I'd rather I'd rather go because because we'll 187 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: do that in twenty twenty, We'll go to Chicago, We'll 188 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: go to Detroit, play Green Bay in Minnesota here. So 189 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: I would much rather do that this year than have 190 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: to go to New Orleans, go to Tampa, play Carolina 191 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta here. I think if you're talking about the best 192 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: division in football, I think the NFC South could be scary. Okay, 193 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: NFC South he has ranked third, Rosenthal has the AFC 194 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: North second. Raven Steelers, Browns, Bengals. There's that Browns on paper. 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Good team stuff rising up again? How can you have Well, 196 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I guess we've we've talked a lot about the AFC 197 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: North because that's the division in the af See the 198 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: Texans are playing, the South is playing, and the Bengals. 199 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not that officially West, but we talk 200 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: about the AC North a lot because the Texas are 201 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: playing the Ravens, the Culture playing the Steelers, and we've 202 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,359 Speaker 1: talked about the rest and we've wondered if the Bengals 203 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: are better than the Jags, and I don't think so. 204 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: With Nick Foles around, I don't think the Bengals are 205 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: better than the Jaguars. So I don't know how you 206 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: ranked them ahead. Oh, then he's got the NFC West 207 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Ram Seahawks. I got it. Forty nine ers with Garoppolo. Okay, Cardinals, 208 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: though that's a lot to put on that you're projecting 209 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: a that Garoppolo comes back healthy and look, DeShawn improved 210 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: last year coming off an ACL there, that you can 211 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: do historic things, yea, if you've got weapons around and look, 212 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: Garoppolo has got George Kittle, he's got Marquis Goodwin, he's 213 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: got Data Pettis, who at the end of the year 214 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: started start to really, you know, show himself. But we 215 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: still don't know exactly what Garoppolo can do for sixteen games. 216 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: I mean, we've only seen him for a handful. When 217 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: we saw him here, we know he's legit. But I 218 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: think the Niners could be scary. I think the NFC 219 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: West could be a surprise division. From that perspective, I 220 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals will be better. They'll be explosive offensively. 221 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: I don't know defensively if they're all there yet, but 222 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: they had a bunch of free agent acquisitions on the 223 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. But I think they really salty. 224 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: But I think Seattle comes back to the pack a 225 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: little bit. I think Seattle comes back to the pack. 226 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: You're given a lot to Kyler Murray and its rookie year. 227 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying they're gonna be nine and seven, 228 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: but if you said they could be explosive offensively, well, yeah, 229 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: the Texans were explosive in twenty ten and went six 230 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: and ten. I know, but I think the Texans and 231 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: maybe the Chiefs, although Mahomes it was a second year 232 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: where he blew up. He didn't even play in his 233 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: first year, played one game. I get it. But I 234 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: think Watson's success helped a guy like Kyler Murray get 235 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any questions and look in that 236 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: year that Deshann was the rookie. Say de Sean stays 237 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: healthy throughout twenty seventeen, and you know, I've done this exercise. 238 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: They probably go eight and eight, nine and seven. I mean, 239 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: it was not the easiest schedule in the world. Now, 240 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: they were three and four when he went out. There 241 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: were three and four when he went out. So we're 242 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: three and four about to face the Colts at home 243 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: with Jacobe Brisette. I like my chances in that game. 244 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: We talked about it before. I liked my chances in 245 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: that one. The Titans on the road, because you blew 246 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: him out at home that year, the Niners at home, 247 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens on the road. That was a close game. Yep. 248 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: What else was when Colts at home, Colts on the road, 249 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Colts on the road to another close game? Yeah? Four, 250 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: right there, so you're up to seven. You're right, and 251 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: look you beat Arizon anyway, so that's that's one of 252 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: your wins. Forty nine ers. You had the lead against 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: them with TJ and then he went out. Wait a minute, 254 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: did he come in in that game? Savage went out 255 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: against the boy. I'm getting him confused. Savage got the 256 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: concussion the Niners game. Then TJ came in. Yeah, okay, 257 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: you weren't going to beat the Jags that year because 258 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: the Jags down in Jacksonville just they were on a roll, 259 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh on Christmas would have been that would have 260 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: been tough. It's been a tough go, but it was fourteen. 261 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: Nothing TJ was driving to put him, you know, within seven, 262 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: and of course I didn't go in right before half. 263 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: But either way, the point being with that is that 264 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: would have been his fun and offense to watch all year. Yeah, 265 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: but you had lost Watt, you had lost Clowney, you 266 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: were not great in the secondary. You're gonna see a 267 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: lot of games like the Cardinals are gonna play this year. 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are going to play a lot of games 269 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: this year that are going to be thirty eight, thirty five. 270 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: They're going to put up some points. They have too 271 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: much firepower offensive. Yes, I know it's Kyler Murray, like 272 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I get it, but you're right, you're sort of Christian Kirk. 273 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: You got David Johnson to backfield, you still got Larry Fitzgerald, 274 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you drafted Andy Isabella and Hakeem Butler. You've got weapons. 275 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: So they'll win some games, but it's not gonna be. 276 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: They're not going nine to seven, but they could be 277 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: seven and nine, six and ten and still be fun 278 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: to watch and fun to watch, right. It's kind of 279 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: like the Rockets with Russell Westbrook. I don't know if 280 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: that makes UM a championship team, but they're gonna be 281 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: fun to watch, you Yeah, I think it gives up 282 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: a shot. They got a shot, no doubt. I think 283 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: they had a shot before that acquisition. At that at 284 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: that point in twenty seventeen, with the team that went 285 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: to Seattle and played Seattle, I would against a team 286 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: in the league, that team had a chance to win, 287 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: no matter what. Now could they have They're gonna were 288 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: they gonna go thirteen and three, sixteen, you know that year? Whatever? No, 289 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: but that team because you had four playing at that level, 290 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: and you had Will Fuller, and you had at least 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: the defensive side, you had Clowne and b Mack and Zach. 292 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: You had some dudes over there enough that you could 293 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: have stayed in every game. That's the way I think 294 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals will be. I think the Cardinals will be 295 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: in every game, but they're not ready to kind of 296 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: push it over the edge yet. Oh boy, We're gonna 297 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: be following that little prognostication with great interest as the 298 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: season and with why not. I mean, it's all about 299 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: football season. I'm so fired up for this. Okay, the 300 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: schedules of the opponents. What record is it gonna take 301 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: to win the division? We'll go over some of it next. Also, 302 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: the Madden rating fallout teams around the league, and I say, 303 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: teams are reacting not just players, but teams are reacting 304 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: on behalf of their players. Sort of. It's Texans Radio 305 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: ten days until Trendy, cam Mark Vandermy or John with 306 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: you Texans All Access in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. 307 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with the conversation. We were talking 308 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: about what kind of record it might take to win 309 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: the AFC South. All these preseason predictions are out there, 310 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: and Johnny, if people are picking the Colts and I understand, Look, 311 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: this is a team to beat the division winners in 312 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs on the road. Impressive, no doubt. But something 313 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: you brought up last week piqued my interest here and 314 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: we've been talking about how the schedules playing out for them. 315 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Although I didn't go over the order so much, I 316 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: just knew, all right, you're playing the Steelers on the road. 317 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: The Texans play the Ravens in the AFC North stuff 318 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: like that. Of course, they're gonna play all the NFC 319 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: South teams and they'll play the same teams on the 320 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: road that the Texans are. They're gonna play the Saints 321 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: on the road and the Buccaneers on the road. So 322 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: that's good news. Yeah, when you talk about the Kansas 323 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, they'll play them on the road. I like 324 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: that a lot. I like that they play the Chargers 325 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: on the road. In fact, they open up against the 326 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: LA Chargers. How about that, I said, La September eight, 327 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: that'll be there opening tilt. They'll be at the Titans, 328 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: so their road road to open the season. Then they've 329 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: got the Falcons at home. And that is no gimming 330 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: newly agreed to with a contract. Rady Jarrett. Yeah, what 331 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: a huge fan of his third highest defensive tackle, third 332 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: highest paid defensive tackle in the league. Yeah, third highest 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: paid in the league. I shouldn't say third highest, third 334 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: highest paid defensive tackle in the league. Yeah. Now, according 335 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: to Madden, he is the oh I don't know. I 336 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: think he's like the twentieth rated. So we'll get to them, 337 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: and we'll get to them a little bit. Yeah, he's 338 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: the twentieth rated defensive lineman behind a few names that 339 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, including one J. J. Watt who was a 340 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: ninety seven rating. But it's you know, with Poy when 341 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: you think about this schedule, I think some of it 342 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: comes down to, Okay, well, the teams you play, like 343 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City, we talked about this a little bit. What 344 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: win in how many games as Tyreek Hill miss Well, 345 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because if he misses, if he misses 346 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: six games, he misses both the Colts and the Texans game. Right, 347 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: So there's that. Now some games there will be, you know, 348 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: some injury situations. Against New Orleans. Early in the year, 349 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: you'd think you're gonna be full go, ready to go, 350 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: everybody's on the field and away you go. So the 351 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: Texans are gonna get the Saints full throttle, but the 352 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Colts end up getting New Orleans. I think later in 353 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: the year, I think in December potentially, is that what 354 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: it is? They play New Orleans back then or later 355 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: in the season, so you may face a different New 356 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Orleans team. Yep. Maybe there's a key injury that they're 357 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: dealing with. That. Okay, the Texans got to face Alvin Kamara, 358 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: but Alvin's banged up at the end of the year 359 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: and the Colts not to face. Yeah, things change, so 360 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: it's but it's the same schedule with that one. The 361 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: two game caveat and that is Colts play at Pittsburgh, 362 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Miami at home. Texans play at Baltimore, Patre It's at home. 363 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's sort of a wash because I 364 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: think I'd rather face Baltimore, I'd rather face Miami. And 365 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: each team gets one of the two teams I'd rather 366 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: not face. So it's gonna be tough regardless. They gotta 367 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: go to ball, they gotta go to Pittsburgh, we gotta 368 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: go to Baltimore, and the home game we get is 369 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: is New England, So it is. I mean, it's almost, 370 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, green apples to green apples, not just apples apples. 371 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: It's almost green apples to green apples. It's that close. 372 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of when you play some of 373 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: those teams. But you know, Tennessee and Jacksonville gotta play 374 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: a similar schedule too, except that they're gonna get those teams, 375 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers in the Chiefs, you think are 376 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. They get those teams at home, 377 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: so they get the cream of the crop at home, 378 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: they get New Orleans at home. Now they gotta go 379 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: to Atlanta to Carolina. I think, as we talked about 380 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: in the first segment, the I think the NFC South 381 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: is just I think it's salty. It's so tough. It 382 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: is so tough because you're facing Drew Brees Super Bowl MVP, 383 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: Cam Newton twenty fifteen League MVP, You're facing Matt Ryan 384 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen League MVP, and then you're facing James Winston, 385 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: who should have a bounce back here with Bruce arians 386 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: he should, he should be pretty desperate in a contract year. 387 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: He better. So I think the NFC South is gonna 388 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: be is gonna be pretty tough. Now. I think you'll 389 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: be able to score on Tampa Bay point being everybody's 390 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna play that schedule in the in the AFC South, 391 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: and then obviously you gotta take on each other, and 392 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: if the division is what we say it is, it's 393 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: gonna be a blood bat each time the Colts, the 394 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: Jags of Texans and the Titans get on the fields 395 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: one another. I'm surprised that they didn't give the Texans 396 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: and the Colts a late season game. The latest you 397 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: play them is gonna be on November twenty first, Yeah, 398 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a Thursday night game. So they sort 399 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: of changed the formula. Remember twenty twelve when the Texans 400 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: played the Colts here in December and then week seventeen. 401 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: This year it was We're getting the Titans in week 402 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: fifteen ye and then them back here in week seventeen. 403 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: So it's almost like there's kind of this rotation going 404 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: on with the schedule where you're gonna play a division 405 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: team twice in the last couple of weeks of the year, 406 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: and this year it just happens to be the Titans 407 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: instead of the Colts, you know it pertains of the Colts, 408 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: And I was, I was. I went back and I 409 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: watched well, I'm not I don't know if I should 410 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: really say what I've been doing, but I went back 411 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: and watched portions of the three Colts games, and I 412 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: don't know's I can't wait to play them again. I 413 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: just can't wait to play them again. Well, you saw, 414 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: and you and I were going over this before the show, 415 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: that there were opportunities in that playoff game that they 416 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: just didn't capital not just not just the not just 417 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: a playoff game, but in the two regular season games too, 418 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: especially in Get in Week four, And I know that 419 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: the Texas scored thirty seven points and won that game, 420 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: UM scored thirty one. And there are other opportunities to 421 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: capitalize them. Look, every every team can say that, but 422 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: there are some that are wide open opportunities. And in 423 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: the playoff game, there was one in particular late in 424 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: the game that could have been could been a huge, 425 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: huge play would have made it a lot closer. But 426 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: it would have made it a lot closer. Um. But 427 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: the Colts played great team defense that day. They played 428 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: great team defense. They did not give the Texans a 429 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of advantages or a lot of looks and a 430 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. But there there were times that plays 431 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: that could have happened for the Texans that day. You 432 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: make one play, you get it within seven points in 433 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. You know who knows what happens at 434 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: that point. You're playing at home. Now the crowds into it, 435 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: like ay, one score, here we go. But give it 436 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: to the Colts. The Colts played better for a full 437 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: even if the Texas one that came people was all 438 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: that they stole it from the Colts. Yeah, it doesn't 439 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: matter the playoffs. It doesn't really matter the playoffs, but 440 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: it would have been nice to come out of there 441 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: with a W. Didn't go to New England and see 442 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: where you are at that point, But there were opportunities there, 443 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to play them again. I think 444 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a fun 445 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: matchup to take on the Colts, uh when we play 446 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: them up there, and then obviously because I got to go, 447 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: because we go to Kansas City, and then two Indianapolis 448 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: back to back weeks homes and luck back to back weeks. 449 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: I just I just don't like that. I don't like 450 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: that one little bit. Well, I nobody's gonna like it, 451 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: but you know as well as I do. And I 452 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: mean you call games at the University of Miami where 453 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Miami flour State loved it right right? Oh, I mean 454 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you lived for it. I mean, I mean you tell 455 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: me about that that game in two thousand and I like, 456 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: hang on, everything work. But then there were times where 457 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Miami played Temple yeah, and back when Temple was no 458 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: good yea, or Rutgers when Rutgers was terrible. You're right now, 459 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm just joking about. Hey, I know 460 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: what you're saying. I want to play Temple now please, 461 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: But you're right, every week in this league it's a challenge. 462 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: This is what upsets me though, when people you went 463 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: eleven in five, but the schedule, Hey, you want eleven 464 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: in five in an NFL year, that's unbelievable. Unbelievable, But 465 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: it's really good. It's good. Remember second most all time 466 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: in the history of this franchise. There have been plenty 467 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: of team teams that do well in the playoffs. Having 468 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: one eleven games, this team did not last year. They 469 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: would like to remedy that. Let's see if they can 470 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, absolutely. I mean to the point about 471 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule. That's why I say, Look, the schedule 472 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: is tough because you're facing you're facing the Chiefs and 473 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers. But as we mentioned, you know, if the 474 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Chiefs don't have Tyreek Hill, they're tad less dangerous. Yeah, 475 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: if the Chargers don't have Melvin Gordon, and who knows 476 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with that situation, then the Chargers are 477 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: a little less dangerous. You know, when you were going 478 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: over all the quarterbacks, Yeah, talking about Drew Brees, Nick Foles, 479 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Patrick Mahomes, Andrew Luck 480 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: and then Derek Carr and then Folds again, Yes, and 481 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: then Lamar Jackson, which is not gonna be fun for anybody. 482 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know you could say what you went. Oh, 483 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: he needs to throw it better. He's still tough to 484 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: stop no matter what he's doing. Then Andrew Luck again. Oh, 485 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: then Tom Brady and then whatever the Broncos throughout you 486 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco or whoever. And then you got Marcus Mariota. 487 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Thank you Lord you mentioned no, but that's not easy either, 488 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: are you kidding? On the road? But what han't last 489 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: year with Blaine Gabbert, then Winston and then Mariota again 490 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: to close it out, now the Titans by the end 491 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: of the year, it's possible that it could be a 492 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: tough year. If it could be a tough year for anybody, 493 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: could be a tough year for this team. But that's 494 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: what you're kind of hoping that that ending kick, if 495 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: you will, you can get a kick if those teams, 496 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: especially if those teams aren't doing quite as well as 497 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: they want. But even as we say that, sometimes teams 498 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: are playing for their jobs or whatever, and they do well, 499 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: so you never know how it's going to shake out. 500 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: I just thought it was fun to bring up because 501 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I really think that, yeah, it's likely that a tenant 502 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: six or an eleven and five is the record that 503 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: it's going to take to get this division done for 504 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: whoever wins it. But I think it's very possible that 505 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: nine and seven could be the final record if everybody 506 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: stays relatively healthy throughout the year. Who is the last 507 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: Texans starting quarterback to beat the Titans in Tennessee? See 508 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: if you can a little trivia, because it wasn't last year, 509 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: wasn't the year before, It wasn't sixteen because Brock and Savage, 510 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: so in fifth team who was the starting quarterback that day? Wait? 511 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: In fifteen? It was of course I know this, so 512 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: it was Yates And then we know Whedon started. Yes, 513 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: we didn't started because before Brandon Whedon is the last 514 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: quarterback to win at Tennessee. Now we have thumped them 515 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: every year here since Bill O'Brien's been here, but there 516 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick beat him in fourteen, Fitzpatrick beating in fourteen, beat 517 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: him up pretty good. In fifteen Weed and beat him 518 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: up pretty good. Sixteen. We mailed in seventeen year thirteen 519 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: with shops. Last start as a Texas last year is inexcusable. 520 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: Last year is just the more I think about it, 521 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: there's no reason. There's no reason to lose that, to 522 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: have lost that to them. They'll be the first ones 523 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: to tell you that. All right, Next up, players going 524 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: nuts about Madden ratings and not in a good way. 525 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: It's coming up along with Trevor Daniel on Texans Radio. 526 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: It's Texans All Access, Mark Fantomer, John Harris with you now. 527 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: The Madden ratings came out late last week. DeAndre Hopkins 528 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: the only offensive player to be rated nineteen nine. Three 529 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: defensive players were rated ninety nine. A lot of stuff 530 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: on social media. It was a huge week for us 531 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: on social media in large part because of this last week. 532 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: And congrats to DeAndre. But you know, he'll be the 533 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: first to tell you'd rather have a Lombardi Trophy, of course. Yeah, 534 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: but it's pretty cool because clearly, Johnny, it means a 535 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: lot to these guys. Oh yeah, these are young players 536 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: who grew up playing Madden, and you're Madden rating. I mean, 537 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus could torch you but if Madden does, oh, 538 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: that's street crid. It kind of it is for the 539 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: focus for like the nerds like all right, yeah, I 540 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: guess so, but it's funny to be. They don't react 541 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: to PFF much unless it's positive. But if it's negative, 542 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm madden. They're coming out, So it's on. I saw 543 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: in a video today Derwin James and was posted by 544 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: the Chargers that's beautiful. Derwin James was like, hey, end 545 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: of the year last year, you guys have me in 546 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: eighty seven. Now I'm starting this year to eighty six. 547 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: And they start laughing and he's like, you've got my tackling, 548 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: Like they know the rating for each you know they've 549 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: got They know their overall rating, but they know each 550 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: of the pieces that make up the overall rating. They 551 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: know what it is. Keenan Allen also the Chargers saw 552 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: his rating and I think he's an overall ninety one. 553 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a pretty salty rating. If I 554 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: remember Keen Allen eighty nine. Not great, you've got him. 555 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: I think probably eleventh. Maybe he's the receiving of his 556 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: receivers are pretty good. Dehap ninety nine Julio ninety eight, 557 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown ninety eight, OBJ ninety six, Michael Thomas ninety five, 558 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: and then you got a few, and then you got 559 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: Allen eighty nine. He's like, my short route running skills 560 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: are ninety one, and he looks at the camera and 561 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: then he takes a drink and then you hear him 562 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: say SIPs te. So he's doing the whole Kermit the 563 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: frog thing, the whole curm of the frog meme as 564 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: he's doing a video because he's like, my short route 565 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: running is like tops in the league, and you gave 566 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: me a ninety one. It's basically what he's saying. So 567 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: there's some dudes mad So I found I don't know 568 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: where I've found this one, but there was a picture 569 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: of like four different guys, and one of them, the 570 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: one that stood up to me was Eric Ebron. He 571 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: tweeted today He's like, I can't say fully what he said, 572 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: but he basically said, Madden got those bull poop emoji 573 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: ratings going today, And so I just I died laughing 574 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: because these guys are so into it, because maddeness street cred. 575 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: It's street cred to them in some sense, like, yeah, 576 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: Madden's got me, you know, Man got I got this 577 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: rating on Man and it's funny going back and look 578 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: at him. There's some guys that you can tell they 579 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: have they have sort of grandfathered in, Like Antonio Brown's 580 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: not a ninety eight, like he's a good he's a 581 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: good player. He's not. He's not a ninety eight. But 582 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: it's that's the credibility of him, like exactly. Like for example, 583 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: here's the running backs. Todd Gurley's in ninety seven, even 584 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: though you don't even know this year what he's gonna 585 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: be healthwise. Ezekie Elliot's in ninety four. So if I 586 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: said you I'm gonna give you Antonio Brown, I'm gonna 587 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: give you Ezekiel Elliott on your team right now. Who 588 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: are you taking? I'm taking Zeke all day, every day. Yeah, Giants, 589 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: I'll take Antonio Brown. You know they have Levion Belle 590 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: in ninety two. Ohay, at the end of seventeen, Son, 591 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon's in ninety two, Sequon Barkley's in ninety one. 592 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, Todd Gurley, Ezekiel, Leon Bell, 593 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, all great players. I'm not taking one of 594 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: them over. Sequon bar not one. So they're really kind 595 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: of a day late on this. It feels like some 596 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: of them are a little bit Maybe hop is finally 597 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: getting some recognition for work he's done over the course 598 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: of his career. I mean, I think there's no doubt 599 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: that he's in my mind, he's the best receiver in 600 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: the league. Now, when you break down certain aspects, individual 601 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: little phases or facets of play, you know, maybe there's 602 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: some other guys in certain categories who might fare better, 603 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: but I think overall it's it's tough to argue against that. 604 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: But maybe he's finally getting some recognition for the backlog 605 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: of work that he's done as well. Like, for example, 606 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the I'm looking at the receivers here 607 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: and they have the top twenty receivers and number nineteen 608 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: is Golden Tate. They have rated an eighty five. Like 609 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: Golden Tate was a bit part with the Eagles last year, 610 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: a bit part, and he's got eighty five. Sean Jackson 611 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: was released again by the Buccaneers. He's an eighty five. 612 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: So either way, I thought it was interesting. But how 613 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: about this, So, uh, quarterbacks, quarterbacks, Okay, top quarterback, who 614 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: do you think it is? I'm Madden ninety seven rating 615 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: league League MVP last year, very good? Whose second League 616 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: MVP the year before that? And League MVP three other times? 617 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Tom Brady, Yeah, I know six. I 618 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: can't even say the name. I know you can't. Mahomes 619 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: ninety seven, Brady ninety six. Third. Who do you who 620 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: would you say? Is the third best quarterback? The third 621 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league, according to Madden. Aaron Rodgers. 622 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has one, two, three, four five, He's sixth. 623 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: Oh he got a ninety rage Drew Brees, No, he 624 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: got a ninety two. He's tied with Andrew Luck for fourth. 625 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: They're still going. And I'm telling you you're not gonna 626 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: get it because you won't think this way, because I 627 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: don't think NFL fans think this way. I don't think 628 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: anybody thinks this way. When you hear it, you're going, oh, yeah, 629 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: he's a great quarterback. But third in the league. Russell Wilson, Oh, good, 630 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: guess he's in ninety one. He's in ninety four. At 631 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: at ninety four, third in league. No, No, no, Philip Rivers, Wow, 632 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Madden loves them some Philip Vers Holmes, Brady in Rivers. 633 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: So if I'm a Chargeres fan, I'm doing the math 634 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: going well, they think Rivers is the reason Keenan Allen 635 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: isn't good. Yeah, exactly, And I think he Keenan Allen 636 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: is really good. I've said this before this show. I 637 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: think him but three. Yeah, So okay, you want to 638 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: know where your quarterback? Yes, that's what I really want. 639 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: All right, So here we go. Rivers ninety four, Andrew 640 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Luck ninety two, Russell Wilson ninety one, Aaron Rodgers ninety, 641 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan eighty nine, Big Ben eighty five, Cam eighty four, 642 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Jared Goff eighty three, Baker Mayfield 643 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: eighty three. I'm gonna vomit now, Carson Wentz eighty two. 644 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Don't start the Shawn Watson eighty two, eighty two. He 645 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: had a historic year last year. Nobody has ever gotten 646 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: to the numbers that the Shawn got to four thousand yards, 647 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: twenty five touchdowns, five hundred yards rushing and six touchdowns. 648 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever gotten that in the history game playing behind 649 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: an offensive line that was not great admittedly by all parties, 650 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: did not play very well, and he's an eighty two. Wow, 651 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: he's an eighty two. You know what if if he's 652 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna be known as a top five guy consistently, is 653 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: just gonna have to happen in January. Yeah. Absolutely, you'll 654 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: have to put up the numbers. You'll have to put 655 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: up the records. I get it. But you're gonna have 656 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: to do it in January. Well, Philip Rivers proved that, 657 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: according to Matten, you can do it over a long time. Yeah, 658 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: and get through a ninety four. Well, he's got a 659 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: lot of water under the bridge, right, He's got two 660 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game appearances. So we've seen him in January. 661 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: You know, we've we've watched, We've been on our couches 662 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: watching Philip Rivers play in January and sometimes play well, 663 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: and he did last year. You want to playoff game 664 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: on the road. Okay, So here a couple of others. 665 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: So let's get to your Texans. Okay, all right, start 666 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: the rookies real fast. Which rookie do you think Madden 667 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: rated number one? So a guy who's gonna be a 668 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: rookie this year amongst the rookies, amongst the Texans, you know, 669 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: the rookie draft class and others. I say, that you'll 670 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: see why which Texan rookie got the highest Madden rating? 671 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: Think water Polo, So Wearing is your highest rated Madden rookie. 672 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: He got a seventy rating. Next Lonnie was sixty eight. 673 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: Titus Howard sixties called David Anderson, by the way, and 674 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: stay Wearing a guy's never played it down in this 675 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: sing has a higher rating than he had, way higher. 676 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Fourth on the rookie listing with the sixty six in 677 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: front of Max Sharping Xavier Crawford is Johnny Dixon. Wow, 678 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: they like Johnny Dixon. See they know what moves the needle? 679 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: They do, you know? And they Shaan Jackson still doing 680 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: well in mad and Levion Belle who hasn't played in 681 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: the year. They knew it moves the needle. The seventh 682 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: ranked rookie is Albert Huggins, defensive lineman from Clemson University. 683 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: So there are your rookies, okay, So what do you think? 684 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: We're the top five? I don't know if you'll get 685 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: this the top five Texans. You know number one is Hopkins, 686 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: you know it's ninety nine, and you know number two 687 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: is what ninety seven? Finish three, four and five? Who 688 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: do you think they are in no particular order. Okay, 689 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: Watson's still a top five Texans. Nope, he's not. What 690 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: he's not. He's got an eighty two rating. Fuller, it's 691 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: got the same as the Shawn eighty two, neither one. 692 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph Nope, j Joe's close though, he's got an 693 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: eighty three. Uh think yes, McKinney. No, B Mack has 694 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: got an eighty three. He's with j Joe. Think running backs, 695 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, Madden's about the only place I've seen where 696 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: Lamar gets some juice for super Lamar and the number five, 697 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: which I think is good. I think this is really 698 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: good because I think this shows that you've got a 699 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: young player in the secondary that's got an opportunity every 700 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: few years to be a star. Yeah, Justin Reid's an 701 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: eighty four. Hopkins ninety nine, ninety seven, Clowney ninety two, 702 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller eighty five, Justin Reid eighty four. Wow. So 703 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: that's those are your top five according to Madden. I 704 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: thought a few that were interesting. The Watson, the Watson 705 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: Fuller at eighty two. I was like, WHOA, They've got 706 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: the same rating as to Shaun Gibson Shaun Gibson's eighty two. 707 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: I feel like there are a few guys jobs. I 708 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: think the biggest one to me is Zach Cunningham. Zack's 709 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: a seventy six. No way, there's no way. There's no way, 710 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: zactly again. I hope they use it as a motivation 711 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: if they don't like it. All right, let's get to this. 712 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Daniel is your potter entering year two. Is a 713 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: full time player for this team. He won the job 714 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: against Shane Leckler last year in camp, and Johnny and 715 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: I caught up with him in the Hyunday, Texas Radio studio. 716 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Do you not feel like a rookie? Do you feel 717 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: like a rookie? Still? You feel like a new guy? 718 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: Because we're just talking about it off the air here 719 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. I feel like you've been here for 720 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: a while. What do you see? I don't. I don't 721 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: feel like I've been here very long. But when the 722 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: new guys coming in, I guess I can see that 723 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: I'm not a rookie anymore. So I feel a little 724 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: better about it. Trevor, we haven't had a chance to 725 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: talk to you, so let's go back to last year's 726 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: training camp. Was there a point where you felt like, Okay, 727 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna end up being my job because obviously 728 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: you and Shane, you know, both are punting very very well. 729 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: Did you feel at any point like, okay, this I 730 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: think I might have this or was it and you 731 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: got the final call like or saw them social media? 732 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: How did you know like it was gonna be your job? 733 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean I felt I felt very confident in it, um, 734 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: But I knew it was a competition the whole time, 735 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: and I knew Shane's a freaking amazing punter, and uh 736 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: I really had to beat him out, you know, so, 737 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: but uh, it really didn't happen until I got the 738 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: call or you know that I'm the guy. What what 739 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: was that feeling like when you get the call, like, 740 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I, oh my, holy smokes, I'm on 741 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: an NFL T. What was that like in that call? 742 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: It was a dream come true? You know, it was 743 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: something I've been dreaming about since I was a kid. 744 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: So it was just awesome. Well, there you are with 745 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: a chance to sign maybe numerous places. How did that 746 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: go down? Coming here and then being in a battle, 747 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: if you will with Shane Leckler? Um, I just saw 748 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity. Um, it just seemed like a good fit 749 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: for me. So and I knew that regardless if I made, 750 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: if I became the starting pointer or not, that it 751 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: would be a win for me because I get to 752 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: learn from somebody like Shane. So either way, it was 753 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: a win. Trevor. As a pretend aints to college punting 754 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: versus NFL punting, I'm sure in college your coaches are saying, hey, punted, here, 755 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: punted the punt of this direction, punt it that direction. 756 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: How different is the actual strategy around what you have 757 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: to do every time you step back there the punt? 758 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: How different is that from college to the NFL. Honestly, 759 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: it's really not that different because the ultimate goal is 760 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: setting up the defense as best as you can. So 761 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: it's really not that different. I mean there obviously there's 762 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: some differences, but overall, you know, I feel like I 763 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: try to take the same approach as I did in 764 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: college and just do my job. What's it like being 765 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: in practice? Every day you guys are off on that 766 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: other field, three of you together most of the time. 767 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: What are you guys working on? And sometimes there appears 768 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: to be some downtime because I know your schedule doesn't 769 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: really match up with some of the other players, right, Yeah, well, 770 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: we're over there working, you know, we're trying to we're 771 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: getting our timing down with the snaphold kick or the punts, 772 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: and we're just we're just working on little things that 773 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: just add up to the overall situation. How much do 774 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: you kick though, like in the off season or even 775 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: during the season, you don't want to overwork things, but 776 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: you have to be ready, So how do you handle that? Yeah? 777 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: We kick? So right now, we're kicking like twice a week. 778 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: In this season, it picks up just a little bit, 779 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: maybe three times a week, so it's really not it's 780 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: not too bad. On my Boddy. It's almost like pitching 781 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: like a picture pitches every five days, but then he's 782 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: got like a bullpen session, you know, somewhere between. Is 783 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: it sort of like that where you're almost like a 784 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: picture in some sense? Yeah, I mean it's definitely the 785 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: quality work over the quantity. Yeah, we had this discussion. 786 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: Had you ever held for extra points and fuel goals 787 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: prior to this year? No? Hot nerve wracking? Is that, 788 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: especially with some of the fuel goals that you had 789 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: to hold forth throughout the year. How tough was that? That? Honestly, 790 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: that's what I was most nervous about when I was 791 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: coming here because I knew that was a part of 792 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: the job. I didn't have to do that in college. 793 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: But it was a honest it was an easy transition. 794 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: I got comfortable back there, and I just feel good 795 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: about it now. Is there one that stands out more 796 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: than any other to be back there going, Okay, nail 797 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: this one, we win? I mean, Indianapolis was back to back, 798 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: which ones both of those? Honestly, yeah, I was thinking 799 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: that exact same thing when I was back there. I 800 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: was just looking at kind of me thinking like, if 801 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: he kicks this, you know we're gonna win the game. 802 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: So I just had to kind of calm down my 803 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: heart rate and just so for each one of you 804 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: from that perspective, who calms down whom? Like are you 805 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: talking to him at all? Are y'all talking to each other? 806 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: Or just it's here's where I about the spot. You 807 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: just kind of look at each other. Let's do this, 808 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: like how do you guys handle that? It's just get 809 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: the spot. I look at him when he's ready, look 810 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: at weeks We'll go. How do you get pumped up 811 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: for the game. A lot of guys listen to music 812 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: or do whatever. Do you get pumped up or do 813 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: you have to just sort of keep your wits about you. 814 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: It's more like golf or something where you have to 815 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: have this level head. I think it's more of the 816 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: level head. I try to just kind of go out 817 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: on the field before the game and just kind of 818 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: visualize punts and stuff like that. I just I don't 819 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: try to get pumped up. I can speak the fact 820 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: he's the first one in the field every time, Like 821 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm out there like four hours ahead, and he's the 822 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: first guy. You're the first guys out there every single game. 823 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: Was it clear I'm gonna be a punter in college? 824 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, was that obvious to you? Or was there 825 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: any opportunity to play another position? I mean I had 826 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: some opportunities to play tight end for smaller schools, but 827 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: I decided to pund instead. What was it like? I 828 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: know the game didn't go the way we wanted it 829 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: to go in Nashville, but what was it like being 830 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: on the field before that game, being in your home 831 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: state playing a pro football game? It was cool? I 832 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: mean I think I had basically my whole hometown was 833 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: there watching, so it was cool to see some of 834 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: those people. And I mean I grew up kind of 835 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: watching the Titans, so being able to play and play 836 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: against them pretty cool. All Right, Trevor, thanks a lot 837 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: for joining us. We really appreciate it. All right, Thank 838 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 1: you guys. There's Potter, Trevor Daniel. All right, that's gonna 839 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight, another one tomorrow night 840 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: at six o'clock. Go to Houston Texans dot com for videos, articles, 841 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: all the info about your football team. Have a great night, everyone, 842 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: and go Texans.