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Speaker 2: The John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of them. Let's hear that both

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Speaker 4: tonight than.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You're your hosts, John Nnik and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Oh are we here to solve any sort of case

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Speaker 6: of the Mondays? Get out your Dixon, Tykonder roga number

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Speaker 6: two pencils. Great to have everybody with us, and if

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Speaker 6: you're live on YouTube, we appreciate the heck out of that.

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Speaker 6: It's Monday, November third, twenty twenty five, Episode five seventy

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Speaker 6: four of the Anticonploring Podcast, brought you by DraftKings Draft Kings,

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Speaker 6: The crowd is yours, Ken Flow. You look young, you

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Speaker 6: look great, you look like you had a good weekend.

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Speaker 6: You a Halloween guy or no.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of a Halloween guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, went went trick or treating with the kids, you know,

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Speaker 7: kind of tailed them a little bit and walked around

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Speaker 4: It was fun.

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Speaker 6: I have a lot of Christmas spirit, especially for a

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Speaker 6: Jewish man, tons of it. Actually not a Halloween guy. Incidentally,

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Speaker 6: I dress up, but back in the Northeast feeling that

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Speaker 6: crispy wind. Yeah, it was something. But we have a

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Speaker 6: lot to get into. We have talked over the course

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Speaker 6: of almost eleven years on this podcast, five hundred and

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Speaker 6: seventy four episodes about mixed martial arts as a sport.

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Speaker 6: When you have a podcast, it is the gift that

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Speaker 6: keeps on giving. And think about all the things we

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Speaker 6: have to talk about from a UFC fight night that

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Speaker 6: largely could be described as a pedestrian live event, and

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Speaker 6: it gives us just all this meat.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: Coming up in about an hour, we will talk to

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Speaker 6: the man of the hour, Mean Machine, Steve Garcia. Ken

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Speaker 6: Flow thinks this kid is absolutely legitimate. We're very excited

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Speaker 6: to talk to Mean Machine. We got Ray Longo on

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Speaker 6: the screws of eleven thirty am Eastern coming up in

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Speaker 6: about twenty seven minutes. We will also get into the

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Speaker 6: next UFC fight night. Nice to see the Nardu Debra

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Speaker 6: Boston Anda coming up in about five minutes, talking Gable,

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Speaker 6: Steveson and Dirty Boxing Ken Flow before we get into

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Speaker 6: the proceedings here today. As you can see, I am

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Speaker 6: back in the Florida studio. I came down to visit

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Speaker 6: my mother. I was gonna call her my aging mother, right,

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Speaker 6: She's not aging. I mean we're all aging, right, It's

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Speaker 6: But I'm down in Florida and I'm in what is

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Speaker 6: now Jason Annix Studio. I paid for all of this equipment, right,

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Speaker 6: but I got all the bells and whistles again, Ken Flow,

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Speaker 6: and I am thinking that because Annik versus Annik no

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Speaker 6: longer exists as a podcast with respect to Boston Garden Rap,

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Speaker 6: the theme song for the Anak and Florian podcast I'm

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Speaker 6: thinking we consider stealing this theme song for Anik versus

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Speaker 6: excuse me, for the Anak and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: It's got a good beat.

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Speaker 5: All the all the all the bells and whistles.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm just having a little fun here off

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Speaker 6: Kenny at a long time.

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Speaker 4: I like the background, dude, I like the.

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Speaker 3: Bell ground because I'm the real article. But she is

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Speaker 3: what you get.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you can bring Jason Anak in here.

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Speaker 6: So that John Candy SoundBite from Plane, Strains and Automobiles.

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Speaker 6: There's a John Candy documentary out. Yes, I haven't seen

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Speaker 6: it yet. Dirty Boxing Zone Jason and App Boston and

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Speaker 6: in the other room. Yeah, well, and it's funny. How's

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, we'll do that.

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Speaker 6: Now you want people to watch us live that now, please,

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Speaker 6: Man playing sick in Nashville? Huh, thank god you're tough, right, So, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I got through it, It's all I'll say. But Kenny,

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Speaker 6: I will say what I won't do in the future

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Speaker 6: So that's the only reason I bring it up. Because

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Speaker 6: for commentators, right, the thickest I ever was was four

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Speaker 6: So if you don't know Brian's, a longtime coach, was

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Speaker 6: I say this all with the straight face as he laughs.

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Speaker 6: But Kenny's bone density, right is such that you know,

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Speaker 6: So I'd like to quickly talk about Gable Steveson before

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Speaker 6: I mean Kenny, I think what's nice when you knock

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Speaker 6: sports world can ingest the highlight. But Jay, you were

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Speaker 6: This dude's just an absolute freak athlete. He appeared in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a freak man.

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Speaker 6: that's not hyperbole. Yeah, reports our mcmaynard woke up with

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Speaker 7: He was absolutely dialed in at the right time. And

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you hit on a lot of nails. There's so

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Speaker 6: comine event. Now we get to the heavyweight comine event

434
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Speaker 6: between Waldo Cortes Acosta and Antae Delia. It's a knockout

435
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Speaker 6: for Corteza Costa Acosta Salsa boy at three point fifty

436
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 6: nine of round one. But Kenny and Jason, as you

437
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 6: well know, it is so much more than that. So

438
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Speaker 6: Anta Delia, tom Aspinall's training partner, one of the primary

439
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Speaker 6: training partners of tom Aspinall, certainly was going to be

440
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Speaker 6: asked about the I poke in advance of this particular contest,

441
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Speaker 6: said he had never poked anybody in the eye. Ends

442
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 6: up poking Waldo Cortez Acosta in the eye in round one.

443
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 6: Pretty nasty wedding ring finger in the eye and a

444
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 6: lot of damage and obvious pain for Cortez Acosta. It

445
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 6: was part of a sequence that was ruled in real

446
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 6: time as a TKO by Mark Smith. Later reviewed determined

447
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 6: to be an inadvertent ipoke that sort of was the

448
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Speaker 6: beginning of the end of the Delias stoppage, and so

449
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 6: a lot of confusion, I'm sure in the truck. Definitely

450
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 6: a confusing broadcast. They told us the fight couldn't continue,

451
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Speaker 6: and then they told us it could. It did, and

452
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Speaker 6: then Kenny saws the boy, lands a huge right hand

453
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Speaker 6: and knocks out the Croatian fighter.

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Speaker 4: What do you have for us on that?

455
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Speaker 7: You summarized it quite well, man, There was a lot

456
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Speaker 7: going on in those few minutes. Man, I think I'm

457
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 7: still confused, but uh yeah, just craziness, man, absolute craziness

458
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Speaker 7: to you know, Dalia talking about how he had never

459
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Speaker 7: poked someone. He ended up poking h you know, Waldo

460
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Speaker 7: Corteze Costa and the eye and then ended up getting

461
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Speaker 7: you know, a TKO win.

462
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Speaker 4: That's what it seemed like.

463
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Speaker 6: Uh.

464
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Speaker 7: And then they restarted the fight, which you know, assuming

465
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Speaker 7: he was good to go, which I guess he was,

466
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Speaker 7: but you know, then he he gets the knockout over

467
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Speaker 7: Delia and then he kind of rolls on the ground

468
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Speaker 7: holding onto his eyes and why the hell did he

469
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Speaker 7: continue fighting if his eye was messed up?

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Speaker 4: And I don't know. Listen, the right guy won, I

471
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Speaker 4: guess at the end of the at the end.

472
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Speaker 6: Of the day.

473
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Speaker 7: But man, just very very confusing stuff of what happened.

474
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Speaker 7: And you know, the finger pokes continue to haunt us.

475
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Speaker 4: Jay.

476
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Speaker 6: So from my standpoint with all sort of with some

477
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Speaker 6: of the madness where fights are being ended or early

478
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Speaker 6: before the bell. You recall that situation with Matt Fravola

479
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 6: where Mrgliata sort of got in there early. That happened recently.

480
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 6: But I think in this situation, despite the uniqueness, the

481
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Speaker 6: result of the way they handled the epoke and that

482
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Speaker 6: situation was absolutely the right way. Circumstantially it led to

483
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Speaker 6: the end of the fight, but they handled it the

484
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 6: right way. I feel for Deliya because clearly he couldn't

485
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Speaker 6: flip the switch back on or wasn't ready to protect himself.

486
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Speaker 6: But Cortez a Costa for whatever people want to think

487
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Speaker 6: about tom aspinall, and it's a very recent eyepoke situation,

488
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Speaker 6: a coasta let us in a little bit more. You

489
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 6: really were able to sort of see some of the

490
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Speaker 6: emotion and the real and I believe every ounce of

491
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Speaker 6: his release after winning that fight, of that pain was

492
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Speaker 6: just so real, and I for him to sort of

493
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Speaker 6: get that win after the ipoke, I think is significant.

494
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Speaker 6: But I also think that for Delia it's very unfortunate

495
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Speaker 6: turn of events. But also fuck around and find out

496
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Speaker 6: with these.

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Speaker 4: Ipokes, huh.

498
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Speaker 6: So I one thing I have no tolerance for to

499
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Speaker 6: piggyback upon Your point is when fans or even fellow

500
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Speaker 6: fighters want to question whether or not a guy is

501
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Speaker 6: really hurt or in pain. Right, Cortez a Coast at

502
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Speaker 6: the end of that fight was able to exhale and

503
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Speaker 6: then obviously focus again on the pain. But Kenny, like

504
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 6: why he continued, right right, I'll tell you why, among

505
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Speaker 6: other fucking reasons UFC three twenty one.

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a week book.

507
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Speaker 6: He didn't want it to go down with that, right,

508
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 6: And obviously, as Jay says, Cortez Acosta like let us

509
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 6: in more. You could see the eye, you know what

510
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 6: I mean? And again like buckets of respect for Tom

511
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Speaker 6: aspinall who still can't see out of that eye.

512
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Speaker 4: Whatever. Right, But.

513
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Speaker 6: If you're a heavyweight in the octagon a week after

514
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: that happens, and then this happens, right, and you can

515
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 6: take your no contest or you know, feel like the

516
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 6: eye is good enough to try to continue to beat

517
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 6: this guy that you're a much better athlete than right,

518
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 6: and then you go knock him out and a performance

519
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 6: of the night bonus comes your way, and I think

520
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 6: it feels like justice in a lot of respects. But

521
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 6: I know the Croatian fighter and his camp feel a

522
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Speaker 6: lot differently about their TKO getting taken away.

523
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I would I guess add to that is.

524
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Speaker 7: That every fight is going to be different, every circumstance

525
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 7: is going to be different, and I think you nailed it.

526
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Speaker 7: I think Waldo probably thought that, you know what, I

527
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 7: know I could beat this guy.

528
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Speaker 4: Let me get a chance.

529
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 7: I know him, probably not one hundred percent, but I

530
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 7: don't want it to end like this for myself or

531
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Speaker 7: for the UFC. Yeah, and maybe because there wasn't a

532
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 7: belt on the line, he's like, you know what.

533
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: Let's drove the dice.

534
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 7: Let let's let's go for it, whereas maybe there's so

535
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 7: much on the line for Tom in that instance against

536
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 7: a truly world class competitor and Sue Gone where he's like,

537
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 7: I don't think this is worth it.

538
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: You know, I'm done here.

539
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 7: And again I'm not talking about the pain or the injury,

540
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 7: the severity of it. You know, they were both bad ipokes, clearly,

541
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 7: but there was also a difference in what was on

542
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 7: the line. And I think Waldo had paid often and

543
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 7: I think the fans should be very grateful, the UFC

544
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 7: should be very grateful for him continuing and the boy

545
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 7: got it done.

546
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Speaker 4: It was amazing. Yeah, that's really well put Jay.

547
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, the stakes obviously have to factor in, right, It's

548
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 6: pretty foolish to fight for your world title with one eye. Yeah,

549
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 6: it's a great point out of Kent, philp. Both these

550
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 6: guys ranked right, But.

551
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: Why why do why do I?

552
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 6: Well, just because I was circling back, I said to John,

553
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 6: I think Gable Steveson can't compete, if not beat, both

554
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 6: these guys. Oh yeah, probably, Sorry John, No, I agree.

555
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, Waldo is six and Deli is not.

556
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 6: But yes, no, to circle back to Gable Steveson, Yes,

557
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 6: if you.

558
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: Are correct that his next Combat Sports.

559
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 6: Contest is going to be in the UFC, there are

560
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 6: a lot of winnable heavyweight fights for steves and it's

561
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 6: not a big division. Right, how many heavyweights does Nick

562
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 6: Maynard have? Right, That's why his cheeks. I don't know

563
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 6: if he smiled like through the night as he slept,

564
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 6: but he looked very happy.

565
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: Well.

566
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Speaker 7: Also, the big problem for Gable is going to be

567
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 7: getting fights outside the UFC too. It's like, who's going

568
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 7: to be down to fight?

569
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: Right, dude?

570
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: You know he's not going to fight another guy who's

571
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: two and oh one and O three. You know, yeah,

572
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: so Cody.

573
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Speaker 6: I don't know if you can circle back with the

574
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 6: Yadier del Vier audio file from last week as part

575
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Speaker 6: of our conversation. But he wins this fight against Isaac

576
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 6: Dulgarian by submission at the three forty one mark of

577
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 6: round one. But this fight is completely marred and controversy

578
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 6: if you don't know, the adding line, which featured Dulgarian

579
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: as a near three to one favorite, started to move

580
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 6: expeditiously and exponentially in the other direction, and then Dulgarian,

581
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 6: in a particularly listless effort when it comes to uh

582
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: back defense and rear naked choke defense and wayward takedown offense,

583
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: just didn't look like he was really competing out there. Jay,

584
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 6: this is the guy who won. We played this file

585
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 6: last week. I know you don't like the pronunciation of

586
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 6: the week, but Isaac Dulgarian was submitted by by this

587
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 6: man right here.

588
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 12: My name is Galliet dal Bai. My nickname is the

589
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Speaker 12: q On Problem. My name is gallieldl Bai, and my

590
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 12: nickname is the q On problem, Cuban problem.

591
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Speaker 6: I'm telling you the vs are bees joh We Clible. Right,

592
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 6: there are a lot of reports now and the are

593
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 6: a lot of things going on right with the NBA

594
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 6: and Chauncey Billips and Poker and Terry Rogier are all

595
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 6: sorts of different things going on in the sports betting world,

596
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 6: and rumblings that maybe there have been dozens, potentially of

597
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 6: UFC fights right that have been impacted by you know,

598
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 6: betting scandals or participants maybe h throwing fights. So I

599
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 6: would encourage everyone to watch this back right, But I

600
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 6: am going to throw a caveat out there. Right, Oh,

601
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 6: we have Ray Longo?

602
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: I mean, does that mean I believe?

603
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 6: No, you can stay. Let's go for what I mean,

604
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 6: Let's bring Ray Longo into the confery.

605
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Jason, come on, you don't go anywhere.

606
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 6: What's up? Uncle? How you doing?

607
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: What? Very good? What are we discussing? Guys?

608
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: Ray?

609
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 6: Did you see the fight between the Cuban promo Yeah,

610
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 6: dear Delbailler and Isaac Dulgarian. Isaac Dulgarian alleged to have

611
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 6: maybe thrown this fight.

612
00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: Did you see that?

613
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: I did see it.

614
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, please tell me what you think and then

615
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 6: I'll get back to my caveat.

616
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: Uh, i'd bean.

617
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 5: Look, it did at times look like he wasn't like

618
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: doing the right things, I mean, not fighting the hands.

619
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: I mean it was a little weird at one point,

620
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: especially then I heard what people were saying, So, you know,

621
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: it makes for a good conspiracy theory. But either the

622
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: guy was way off or I don't know, it didn't

623
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: look good. Though it's so good.

624
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 6: You got to scream from the rooftops that you're innocent,

625
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 6: and as the mixed martial arts athlete say that, other

626
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: people just don't know what they're talking about, and that

627
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 6: guy was strong as a bull, which he is, right,

628
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 6: you got to be saying all of those things, and

629
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily hearing those things from Isaac Dalgardian, who

630
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 6: has already been cut from the UFC. Right, So, I

631
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 6: don't know the extent to which the broadcasters knew about

632
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 6: this betting trend or things that maybe seemed fishy that

633
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: were going on. But my caveat is that I watched

634
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: this fight knowing that there was a scandal. I didn't

635
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 6: watch it. Wow, I'm watching it through the lens thinking

636
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: that this guy's rear naked choke defense is trash. And

637
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 6: then it was rubbish.

638
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched you watched it a lot. Yeah,

639
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 5: I watched it live, and then the things started coming in.

640
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: Then I started going back and going, well, you know, like, uh,

641
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 5: you know, Plus I heard he he he did train

642
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: with somebody else I did, So that's a little shaky.

643
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: Somebody said he was with Krous at one.

644
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, is not is not ideal. The James cross connection

645
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 6: is not Kenny. Let me ask you.

646
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: I would think it's not ideal.

647
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: So so Kenny as the you know, striped up Brazilian jiu.

648
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: Jitsu, Kenny's got Kenny. So the rear.

649
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 6: Naked choke defense right as Daniel Cormier and most other

650
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 6: you're fighting hands at all hosts, right, like, you can't

651
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: be throwing punches, right, But then Michael Bisbeing did say,

652
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: like when you're getting close to tapping or maybe going

653
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 6: out that sometimes instinctively, out of desperation, you will throw

654
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 6: punches to see if maybe So, uh, I know there's

655
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: a lot to unpack here, but what can you tell

656
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 6: us about that and what you saw in the fight

657
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 6: ending sequence?

658
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it was frustrating watching I turned it on

659
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 7: and I caught the tail end of the fight and

660
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: when I was watching it, you know, he had his

661
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 7: back taking and he wasn't doing any of the positional escapes,

662
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 7: meaning he wasn't trying to readjust his hips or misalign

663
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 7: his shoulders with that of the chest of de Valler,

664
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 7: And it seemed like it seemed like he really was

665
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 7: like fighting but not actually trying to get out of

666
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 7: the position, if that makes sense.

667
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: So either it was like you.

668
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 7: Know, peak meatthead stuff, or there's some fishy stuff going on,

669
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 7: because if you're in a rear naked choke yet like

670
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 7: everybody knows that this is you know, brazillanly just to basics,

671
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 7: you get the damn things that are trying to do

672
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 7: the choke, you get.

673
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 4: Him out of the way.

674
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 7: And he wasn't even fighting the choke that even when

675
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 7: he wasn't punching, there were times where he was just

676
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 7: kind of like trying to fight out of it and

677
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 7: trying to resist the choke. But I don't understand how

678
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 7: you can get into that level in the UFC and

679
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 7: not know to fight hiss, And that's what was so

680
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 7: kind of fishy about it. And then I didn't even

681
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 7: know about any of that stuff until after I started

682
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 7: reading kind of the comments about the you know, potential

683
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 7: uh foul play, and then I really.

684
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: Started to think, and I said, is this what happened?

685
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 7: It just it looked fishy and it sounded fishy, and

686
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 7: I'm sure they're gonna look into it. I'm not saying

687
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 7: that's that's the case, that's what happened, but it's very

688
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 7: unusual to see someone into UFC fighter rear naked choke

689
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 7: for that long, for that amount of time and not

690
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 7: be fighting hands.

691
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 4: Joe, Yeah, it was odd.

692
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 6: So Cody chimed in in the chat here, Jay that

693
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 6: Isaac did an interview like a week ago and bitched

694
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 6: about betting and not getting a cut of it as athletes,

695
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 6: which would be pretty damning. Now we've seen athletes get

696
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: cut off a win, right, Martin Boudeye six and one.

697
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: Of the UFC is a heavyweight.

698
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: He got cut right, Hamdi ab del Wah Hobb just

699
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 6: got cut right. But seemingly, Jay, there's something in the

700
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 6: underbelly that allowed them to cut him right away. Didn't

701
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 6: someone ask Dana about it and he was like, there's

702
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 6: not enough money in this right? Didn't someone ask him

703
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 6: at the press?

704
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: Cott?

705
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 6: Well that I agree that makes sense exactly, And Dana

706
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: White always just hits the right tone and answers these

707
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 6: things right and diffuses it the right way. It's like,

708
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 6: go ahead, gentlemen, you're gonna try and go make a

709
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: bunch of money doing this. Like, let's see what the

710
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 6: future of Terry Rogier and Chauncey Billups is.

711
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Like.

712
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 6: Look, we've talked even on this podcast about fighters with

713
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 6: injuries going into fights forget throwing performances, how about camps

714
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 6: having knowledge of it. Modu man akalive against Alex Data recently, right,

715
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 6: I mean, and Dela Shaw was injured in a fight

716
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 6: going into the shoulder.

717
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 4: Whatever.

718
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 6: We could go down a lot of rabbit holes in

719
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 6: terms of the gambling stuff. But you know, I almost

720
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 6: feel like from this point further, you really, I mean,

721
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 6: I feel like we nipped it a little bit of

722
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 6: the Krouse back in the day. You know, yeah, well right,

723
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 6: like Kenny if Isaac is like, guys like I'm trying

724
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 6: my best man, you know, like, yeah, you obviously have

725
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 6: to find a paper trail that it, but yeah, like

726
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: how are you were you gonna have hard?

727
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: Right?

728
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 6: No, that is not hard, but but you know, like

729
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 6: the bets that would actually make this worthwhile where you're

730
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: trying to make twenty grand? What are you trying to

731
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 6: do here? What exactly what you're trying to do here?

732
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 6: You're not going to make hundreds of thousands of dollars.

733
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 6: It'll get flagged by every book and you know, like, so.

734
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: Not to nerd out too much, but so the lineage

735
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 4: had shifted. What a hundred bucks is that?

736
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: Right?

737
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: Something like that?

738
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: So what kind of a bet would would be needed

739
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: in order to do that?

740
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 6: Now we can bring Johnny Avello, the director of race

741
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 6: and sports in the Draft Kings sports books, so talking

742
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 6: to you about sort of hand versus like total number

743
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 6: of bets and yeah, but you know they move the

744
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 6: line in response to you know, people getting a price

745
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 6: on a Cuban problem, right, and they're like, oh, well,

746
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 6: everybody's betting on this guy, so we need to.

747
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 7: Well and on the time of time was pertinent too,

748
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 7: because it was like just an hour before the fight,

749
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 7: right or just a couple hours before the fight.

750
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, and the handle for example, it could you know,

751
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 6: let's say it's a fifty thousand dollars bet the whole

752
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 6: handle on this fight at a certain book. Let's say

753
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 6: it's three thousand, right, then you're trickingen thousand and action,

754
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 6: all right, there's certain proposition bets where certain sharp handicappers

755
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: will go to the window and certain casinos won't take

756
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 6: certain action up to a certain point.

757
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, gotcha.

758
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 6: Dulgary and Ray opened the fight as a minus two

759
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 6: forty favorite. Before the belt began, the odds got tighter

760
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 6: minus one sixty. Then the odds on a proposition bet

761
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 6: for the fight to end in round one went from

762
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 6: plus eight fifty to plus four seventy five. So it

763
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 6: looks as though DraftKings pulled the prop line entirely, and

764
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 6: no matter what network we would be on, DraftKings sportsbook

765
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 6: in that application is straight fire. It is the best

766
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 6: one with the most options, and the book that it's

767
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 6: let's go ahead. Let me just get in right there though. Right,

768
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 6: But if you're talking about a line dropping from plus

769
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: eight fifty to plus four seventy five, if you're able

770
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 6: to illegally play something plus eight to fifty, you don't

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 6: got to come to the window with as much money.

772
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 6: You know you're getting nine to one on your money.

773
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 6: That's a whole different conversation. Ten thousand dollars bet like, Hey, hey, ike,

774
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 6: if you lose in round one, right, I can turn

775
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: ten thousand into eighty eight thousand, five hundred, right, right,

776
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: eighty five thousand, right, So that's how right you know,

777
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 6: that's how you did it.

778
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: Nobody's doing it for fucking peanuts for.

779
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: Sure, right right right?

780
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 6: But to actually be and again innocent until proven guilty. Right, Yes,

781
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 6: this a podcast and were responding.

782
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 4: To those years.

783
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: But you got to be really dense, you know, between

784
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 6: ear l and ear r to think this is a

785
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 6: good idea.

786
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: So Ray, yeah, what was we got a spider on

787
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: the ceiling? What do you like?

788
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: Cause I tell you why. I think I got bugs

789
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: flying around here going on?

790
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you don't seem like a big Halloween guy.

791
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: Ray, I'm actually not a you know, it's crazy. Uh,

792
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: it's funny you brought that up. I went to a

793
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: benefit Saturday night. This might be a decent story for

794
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever told that. Maybe I don't know,

795
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 5: but I went to a benefit on Saturday night and

796
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: I didn't. Somebody just had told me. It was a

797
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 5: buddy of mine I haven't seen in thirty, like thirty

798
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 5: five years, thirty years and his wife has a horrible illness,

799
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: and you know, I was as soon as I found

800
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 5: out about I was running over there because this kid

801
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 5: literally was the first guy ever trained. He was my buddy,

802
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: Mike Siberowski, and when we were eighteen, they used to

803
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: He worked for an upholstery store and one upholstery store

804
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: would fight another upholstery business out east. They put up

805
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 5: a ring, they catered a food, you know what I mean.

806
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 5: And he comes to me one day We're like eighteen, Goes,

807
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: can you train me for this fight?

808
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a boxing fight. I'm like, I don't know,

809
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing.

810
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: What are you talking to me? Goes, yeah, but you're

811
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 5: doing martial arts. You're better than you know, anybody else.

812
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: I have like war like that. So I know that's

813
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: how it started. And he tells me when I took

814
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 5: him to the track for the first time, I looked

815
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: at him and go, this isn't gonna go good, you

816
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But anyway, so I train him

817
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: and supposedly the guy was. We go out East and

818
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: supposedly the guy was. He fought in the Golden Gloves.

819
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh this shit, this is horrible. And Sibaroska.

820
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: My friend Mike Seborewski goes out there, knocks the guy

821
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 5: out in the second round. It's like crazy people giving

822
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: us money. They bet on the fights out there. We're

823
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 5: talking nineteen seventy seventh problem Wow.

824
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, Isaac Dougarian was born.

825
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

826
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 5: So I'm like, holy shit, we get I'm talking about

827
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 5: fifty bucks. It wasn't like a lot of money that

828
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 5: but and then everything's great. It's like you run a

829
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: high from that. That's like my first taste of something, right.

830
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: And then I'm pumping.

831
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 5: Gas about a month later and a guy comes up

832
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: and he goes, hey, were you the guy that trained

833
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: Zebrowski And I go yeah.

834
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: He goes, can you train me next year for the fight?

835
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: And I'm like, wow, this, I mean the trainer is

836
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 5: actually and I think that's the start of it, man,

837
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 5: I really do. It was like eighteen and nineteen and yeah,

838
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 5: it was a great story. So I haven't seen him

839
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: in like thirty years. We go to rehash the story

840
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: for his kids. She goes all he talks about he's

841
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: got these pictures and you know, it was such a

842
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 5: great feeling seeing everybody and I don't know. But the

843
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: point is when I got there, I look at the girl,

844
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: what is this a costume party? She was like, I

845
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: thought she was the only one dressed up taking the tickets,

846
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: and she's laughing at me. And it was a costume.

847
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: I'm the only guy without a costume. I don't even

848
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: know it was a costume. By so I seen all

849
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 5: the old guys from the neighborhood from I'm talking about

850
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: in the seventies, early set. Yeah, everybody's dressed up in

851
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: the costume. So I wouldn't have known half of the

852
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: people without the costume. So it's it's just a it

853
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 5: was a great night for a great cause. And shout

854
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: out to Mike Sebreski was great reconnecting with him and hopefully,

855
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 5: uh we'll stay in touch. He moved to Connecticut, John,

856
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 5: he's out by you.

857
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, be careful these main streets of Connecticut. I

858
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 6: have a story that your mind ski mask in the

859
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 6: back of your car. Though, in case you ever need

860
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 6: a costume, you know what.

861
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 5: Out of I like it, John, Good, I get pulled over,

862
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: I'll be in jail with Dugarian.

863
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: But uh but uh.

864
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. Whatever his name is but anyway, that

865
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: that was it. That was that was the U. It

866
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 3: was great. You know, it's funny. And I go house

867
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: house Connecticut. No, it loves Connecticut.

868
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 5: But he said if he didn't move at the time,

869
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 5: he would have been dead or in jail.

870
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: And we ran with a wacky crew back then. That's

871
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: all he could say. But he's probably right. And what

872
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: a great guy and was great catching up. But that

873
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: was my Halloween thing. So it's funny.

874
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 5: I'm not a Halloween guy, but was at a Halloween

875
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: party on Saturday night evidently.

876
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 6: So on Sunday, I'm driving four minutes. Are you really

877
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 6: going to tell the story? Why you think it's against

878
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 6: my better judgment?

879
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 4: Tell the story?

880
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 6: No, tell it, and then Kenny'll tell us if it

881
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 6: was a mistake or not.

882
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 4: Okay to tell it.

883
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 6: So I was driving, you know, I was at a

884
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: stop sign. I'm going down a hill. It's twenty five

885
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 6: miles per hour. I did not believe that I was

886
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 6: tailgating this gentleman. But this dude slammed on his brakes

887
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 6: right and I had to literally slam on them, and

888
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 6: I was then two inches from him. Gets out of

889
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 6: his car and asked me to roll down my window,

890
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 6: you know. And here I'm thinking, I tell everybody to

891
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 6: be in sneakers and not flip flops. And the one

892
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 6: time I'm in flip flops here in Connecticut, of course

893
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 6: I can't run or necessary early fight as well. But anyway,

894
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 6: he's like, uh, rolled down your window and I rolled

895
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 6: it down a little bit and he said, uh. He

896
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 6: was like, can you tell me why you're so far

897
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 6: up my fucking ass? And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,

898
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 6: I didn't think that was the case.

899
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: You know.

900
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 6: He's like, well, you better back the fuck up, and

901
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 6: then he pulled out like one of the switchblade knife

902
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 6: and he was like, or I'll stab you in your

903
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: fucking neck, and then he walked back to uh his car.

904
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: WHOA.

905
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I lived in nevad in Florida for a

906
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: long time, move up to Connecticut for a couple of months,

907
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 6: and uh, knives drawn, you know. So that kind of

908
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: shook me up a little bit. But we're ready to go.

909
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 6: If it he'd be, you know, we'll go down swinging.

910
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 4: Dude.

911
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 6: Wow. The only reason I didn't want to tell the

912
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 6: toy I'm a little shook flow, A'm little scared of

913
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 6: this dude, right. I put this to bed. I told him.

914
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: I was like, you drive like an old lady, get

915
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 6: your golf cart up there. Just keep well. No, I

916
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 6: think a lot of people are trying to get other

917
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 6: people to maybe rear end them and right, but yeah,

918
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 6: it was uh never had a knife pulled on me.

919
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's it.

920
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 7: I mean, gosh, people are completely that's mentally not well

921
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 7: right now, right especially, and the fact that someone is

922
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 7: willing to pull out a weapon over something like that

923
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 7: just kind of shows you where we're at right now.

924
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: That's that's scary. Dude.

925
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, age size.

926
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: You know, my mom's like, well, you shouldn't be tailgating.

927
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh god, I was like I wasn't, mom. Yeah,

928
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 6: white dude with a red goatee and uh not in

929
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 6: my weight class.

930
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: But you know, we're ready to go.

931
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 6: You know, I was wearing my Arnold Almighty Allen hoodie incidentally, right,

932
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: probably made me look super tough. Poor Arnie, by the way,

933
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 6: You see what happened to him Ken Flow, No, what

934
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 6: happened He got jumped in Montreal because he didn't speak French,

935
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 6: and so he ended up doing some of his content

936
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 6: with like just his eyes all busted.

937
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 4: The fuck up? Are you serious? Yeah, yep.

938
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 6: Oh, Cody's telling me it was a bit, Well, I

939
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 6: bit he got me to bite. If that was a

940
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 6: bit he got me to bite, well, yes.

941
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: You'll shake it, hopefully it was.

942
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 5: You're still shaking up from the guy trying to stab you,

943
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 5: h John, you can get out, go ahead, right?

944
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that's really that's really really bad.

945
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe. But yeah, Jay, I was going to

946
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 6: kick you out here. Yeah, what what's it? You can

947
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: kick me out? I just Ray, you have to ask this.

948
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 6: I know you're a humble guy, but when you were

949
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 6: around all these old motherfuckers at this thing, right, you

950
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 6: look better than all these guys.

951
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, man, you're not far off. But I

952
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: tell you my buddy looked real good man.

953
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, Ray, did you see uh Gable Steveson and

954
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 6: dirty boxing that fifteen second highlight er? No?

955
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: I did not see that.

956
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Uh Jay, thank you. Uh have a

957
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 6: great day in a better eating and uh I'll see

958
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 6: in the other room real soon. Good to see a flow, Ray,

959
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 6: Larry see if Larry's available. Yeah, I'm gonna go talk

960
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 6: to Larry. Sorry, we continue the Ray Longo minute here

961
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 6: live on the Anakin Florian podcast. Ray is going to

962
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 6: be really happy with me right now, oh boy, because

963
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 6: I remembered something as the producer of this podcast.

964
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: Oh and I already forgot it, but now you just yeah.

965
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 6: So something happened at UFC three twenty one that we

966
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 6: failed to touch on last week, and I think in

967
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 6: some part rightfully so because of everything that.

968
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 4: Was going on.

969
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 6: Yes, but Ray's former pupil who still reps Team Sarah Longo,

970
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 6: Mazuki looked absolutely objectively outstanding in her first appearance in

971
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 6: almost three years.

972
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: Pumi Nakuda in the corner.

973
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: Ray and I had a conversation about this off year

974
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 6: immediately following our podcast last week. So, Ray, I gotta say, man, like,

975
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: I don't know. Mazuki was ready to go. We had

976
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 6: a fighter meeting with her and she seemed like a

977
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 6: bat out of hell ready to go, and uh yeah,

978
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 6: I wanted to give her a little shot on the show,

979
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: of course.

980
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

981
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, I thought outstanding performance from Mizuki.

982
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 5: It was so happy hadn't fought in two years plus

983
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 5: three point fifty Underdog went out there totally dialed in

984
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 5: like Mazuki was dialed in, and it's great to see

985
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 5: her back like that because I think, you know, she

986
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 5: had some she had some personal troubles, and I think

987
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: she cleared up and man, she she came out and

988
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 5: she controlled that whole fight against the girl, an up

989
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 5: and coming girl with great jiu jitsu, and I think

990
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: she beat her at her own game, and she beat

991
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 5: her Red Hood game, which was standing and I think

992
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: she showed everything and I just restores my faith in humanity.

993
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: She she sent me a text and I wrapped the team.

994
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 5: You know, I still want to come down and train.

995
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 5: I love everybody, and we always love you, Mizuki too,

996
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: and that's from the bottom of my heart. And Poomy

997
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 5: did a great job, but pullmy nakoda, like yeah, and

998
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 5: I know talking them before they went over every one

999
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 5: of those positions with her, and uh, you know, we

1000
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: kind of wrote out the game plan for her and

1001
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 5: she's just a what a wonderful person and I only

1002
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 5: wish it a best of luck. And I think based

1003
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 5: on what I saw, I think she's going to go

1004
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 5: on a little bit of a run because it looks

1005
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 5: like her head's cleared up, her injuries are gone. Yeah,

1006
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 5: and she had brutal knees like her knee. The surgery

1007
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 5: she had would to come back from is not easy.

1008
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: So that injury as well. She's been through a lot.

1009
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: It's been through a lot, but man, did she look great.

1010
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: And I forgot to mention that.

1011
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: Last week and I felt horrible and that was it.

1012
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: But thanks for reminding me. I forgot, of.

1013
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 6: Course, because if you would have told me going into

1014
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 6: UFC three twenty one that was the first fight to

1015
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 6: night that I would have had like anything close to

1016
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 6: this enthusiasm about Mazouki moving forward. We'm just being honest

1017
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 6: that we would give her sixty seconds on the podcast,

1018
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: that would not have been the case. She really looks fantastic.

1019
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people didn't see the fight,

1020
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 6: so we wanted to congratulate her, so John Ray. There

1021
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: are a few poster children for undidn't deniability as top

1022
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 6: UFC contender Mirob Dwallas, William Blat Muhammad had two weight forever,

1023
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 6: but they eventually became undeniable winning title eliminators that they

1024
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 6: had to give them a title fight, right yep. Laron

1025
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 6: Murphy isn't in that position. At featherweight, even though he

1026
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 6: did to Aaron Pico something absolutely spectacular in a title

1027
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 6: eliminator of sorts that a lot of people thought was

1028
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 6: going to position Peico for a title shot against Alexander Volkanowski.

1029
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 6: I bring all of this up in the context of

1030
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 6: what knockout artists Steve Garcia just did at the UFC

1031
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 6: Apex this weekend, because the way he attacked the octagon

1032
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 6: and the high level opposition from a good camp on

1033
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 6: the other side, it was so so dismissive. I mean,

1034
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 6: Kenny really put it better earlier analytically, but I think

1035
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 6: this kid has all the potential in the world to

1036
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 6: be like a featherweight champion and a knockout artist in

1037
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 6: this division.

1038
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 5: Well, he's certainly ferocious, tenacious, whatever one of words you

1039
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: want to use. He's coming forward. He definitely has to

1040
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 5: have above uh ordinary power. He's like what we call

1041
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: a sleep but like an average build, but with extraordinary power.

1042
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 5: I'm assuming that's what he's got because he's running through people.

1043
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: Uh And that was a phenomenal fight for this kid. Man,

1044
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 5: it looks like his head's in the right spot, but

1045
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 5: I can't say.

1046
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing you can say about.

1047
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 5: I mean, he, like you said it, the other guy

1048
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: comes from a great camp, he's good, and he had

1049
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing at his own game, I think right when

1050
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: I'm as a striker and he just got he got

1051
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 5: walked down, and I don't know, it's it was almost

1052
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 5: like the Mike Tyson effect. It is like that guy

1053
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: lost a fight before it even happened. It looked like, yes, that's.

1054
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 6: What I was sort of talking about earlier. And uh,

1055
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 6: you know something Kenny talks about, right, is that increasingly

1056
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 6: there's more film on you as you continue to fight

1057
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 6: in the UFC, and even when you think about like

1058
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 6: Garcia next opponent, right, these are valuable three and a

1059
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 6: half minutes, Like all right, we got to be you know,

1060
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: you know, Corey Sandhayan can atest against a Zamin Strow

1061
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 6: and you got to be ready right out of the

1062
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 6: fucking shoot. Like this fight was over for no in

1063
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 6: eight seconds, you know.

1064
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 5: Yep, one hundred percent. That's good to see Jackson and

1065
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: Wink back in there too. So that was, uh, that's

1066
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 5: that's always fun too. Those guys haven't really had a

1067
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: guy like this in a while, I don't think, And

1068
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 5: that's good.

1069
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: That was good.

1070
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big part of it as well.

1071
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 6: Kenny Kenny and Greg Jackson are super tight, you know,

1072
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 6: and right like Kenny, you know the IQ is going

1073
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 6: to be there. You know that they're not leaving any

1074
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 6: stone unturned as far as strategy, and uh, you know,

1075
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 6: I just find this sport at thirty five, forty five,

1076
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 6: fifty five and seventy to just be so compelling. And

1077
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 6: they're all these different stylists right now at featherweight right

1078
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 6: like al Jamaine Sterling and Steve Garcia right or neck

1079
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 6: and neck right now on a list of six or

1080
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 6: seven guys, six seven guys chase down Alexander Volkonowski. I

1081
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 6: think it's a fascinating sign for the featherweight division.

1082
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 5: Raymond now, I'm a great performance and it looks like

1083
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 5: he's had the ability to move up gradually too, like

1084
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: not get over match, you know what I mean. So

1085
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 5: they did the well however they did it. They did

1086
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: the right thing with him like that, But it's probably

1087
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: gonna have to take a little step up.

1088
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 3: But I don't know who did he be cater the

1089
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: last time? Was that the fight? I'm thinking a thin

1090
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: Calvin's did he fight?

1091
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 6: Yeah? I you know, I Josh, and there are a

1092
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 6: lot of possibilities. I'm curious how they're going to sort

1093
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 6: of handle the matchmaking at featherweight in that first quarter

1094
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 6: because they have a champion who desires to fight every

1095
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 6: twelve weeks and seemingly was prevented from doing so in

1096
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 6: December because of some plan that maybe they have so.

1097
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: Great fight on that.

1098
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 6: So Ray did you did we talk to you about

1099
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 6: the comin event. We didn't talk to you about the

1100
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 6: coin event yet.

1101
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 5: And I'm starting to think it's like death, it comes

1102
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 5: in threes. Somebody's getting ipoke next week too. There's no

1103
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 5: question is this is what's happening.

1104
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, it's almost it's almost like.

1105
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 5: The betting thing for this kid Oscar, right, like the

1106
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 5: basketball shit. The other crap just went down with the

1107
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: poker games, the gamblings in everybody's head and then this happens,

1108
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 5: but same thing with the ipokes. You go from aspinall

1109
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 5: to this guy looking like like the fight's over. But

1110
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 5: it really I think that well, first off, I think

1111
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 5: it was handled correctly.

1112
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 4: Yes, it was right.

1113
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 3: I mean I think the other guy's bitching.

1114
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 5: That he thought he wanted it poked the guy in

1115
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 5: the eyes though, and not hit him. The guy wasn't

1116
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 5: even out, he was just complaining, Like, but what Cortes

1117
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 5: did after that was absolutely phenomenal. Anybody bet on that

1118
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 5: fight that that line should have shifted all over the

1119
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 5: somebody made money on.

1120
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 6: That crazy So ray if you Tom Aspinall, right, and

1121
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 6: even if this hadn't happened, I was going to ask

1122
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 6: you sort of a week removed, what are your thoughts

1123
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 6: on Tom Aspinall, who reportedly or seemingly still can't you know,

1124
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 6: completely see out of that eye, right, But you have

1125
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 6: to tune out the noise, right, because now a week later, right,

1126
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: there's another you cannot make this, you can't make it right, Like,

1127
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 6: a week later, you're heavyweight teammate. I pokes another individual

1128
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 6: who then fights through it. Right, thereby giving the fan

1129
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 6: base everything they're looking for visually from a fighter who

1130
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 6: gets I poked and then he knocks out your teammate. Right,

1131
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 6: This is why Tom Aspinall a week ago, right, isn't

1132
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 6: it had to tune out the noise because now look

1133
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 6: at all this clamor imagine you're Tom Aspinall watching that

1134
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 6: play out on Saturday night.

1135
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 5: Now youel like again you say you can't make it up,

1136
00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: and that was absolutely bizarre. I think the fact that,

1137
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 5: you know, what makes it worse is that his teammates

1138
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: bitching about it, that he got robbed, like the rules

1139
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 5: are the rules? Like who the hell would even want

1140
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: to win like that?

1141
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: That's not good.

1142
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 5: But look, as far as the eye poke, everybody's different,

1143
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 5: Every ipoke is different, everybody reacts differently.

1144
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: I think it's I don't think it. You can't.

1145
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: You can't draw one thing from it except that you know,

1146
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 5: the Cuban guys he got through it, you know what

1147
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 5: I mean. And we don't know what the extent that

1148
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 5: his eye was compared to the other guys.

1149
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: But listen, you.

1150
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 5: Know, back in the day, Kenny, we used to have

1151
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 5: a thing called the Oriental World is self defense again.

1152
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 5: I'm going back to a lot of big seventies themes

1153
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 5: this time. But they'd have this guy, I think his

1154
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 5: name was Rico guy. But he'd come up and then

1155
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 5: you'd invite anybody in the audience to come up and

1156
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 5: kick him in the bulls or punch him in the head,

1157
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: and yeah, the guy could take it. You don't want to,

1158
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 5: You don't want to see what the guy is today.

1159
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: Trust me, that's not looking good. What do we talk

1160
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 5: like everybody's pain tolerances to everybody handles shit differently. I'm

1161
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 5: still I'm not changing one thing about the aspiral thing.

1162
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 5: If he couldn't fight, he couldn't fight well.

1163
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 6: And sometimes social media is such right that this is

1164
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 6: a conversation that will get framed on Instagram. Right, And

1165
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 6: certainly we love our guy Mike Jones, and media's on it, right,

1166
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 6: But my comments, you know, could seem maybe anti aspinall

1167
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 6: when I'm really just laying out that this is sort

1168
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 6: of what happened, right, And Kenny brought up perhaps the

1169
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 6: most important point, Ray, and I'd love to get your

1170
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: thoughts on this, like title fight versus non title fight, right,

1171
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: stakes matter in this conversation, you know, like, certainly you

1172
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 6: want to see every fighter exhaust every possibility to try

1173
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 6: to fight through it. Right, But the fact that a

1174
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 6: point wasn't taken this weekend, and Daniel Cormier wisely mentioned this,

1175
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 6: but it seemed like they had to move on. But

1176
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 6: the fact that Delhia wasn't doctor point is really problematic, Right,

1177
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 6: You should have maybe even taken to to try to

1178
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 6: level the playing field for the rest of the fight

1179
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 6: moving forward, and that you know didn't happen.

1180
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, well again we said it last week.

1181
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 5: You have to try something, whether people agree with it

1182
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 5: disagree with it, you have to at least make the

1183
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: effort to try and see if it doesn't work, it

1184
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: doesn't work. But look, I'm still listen. If you really

1185
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 5: want the fight to go on, let the let the

1186
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 5: doctors go in and treat them. If they forget about this,

1187
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 5: can you see? Of course you can't see. You got

1188
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 5: poked in the fucking eye.

1189
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: What do you want.

1190
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 5: Let the guy go in in and do his job.

1191
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 5: But don't guys come out of a football game, go

1192
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 5: into the training room, they shoot him up, they put

1193
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 5: him back on the field. You want the fight to

1194
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 5: go on and not And if somebody says that it's

1195
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 5: all about protecting the it's not.

1196
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: It never was.

1197
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1198
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 5: They could hide behind that if they want, But you know,

1199
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 5: you're watching guys, you know, bludgeing each other to death.

1200
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: What are we protecting?

1201
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 5: You know? But if they really want the fight to

1202
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 5: go on, let the doctors go in and do the

1203
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 5: right thing. Maybe you take six minutes, you know, go

1204
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: to a commercial break. I don't know, how bad do

1205
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 5: you want the fight to go on? So you wanted

1206
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 5: to go on, but at one guy's expense when he

1207
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 5: can't see is not good either, you know. And if

1208
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 5: that's part of the game, then everybody should be poking

1209
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 5: everybody in the eyes and to make a part of

1210
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 5: the game.

1211
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1212
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 5: I mean, but you got to do so you got

1213
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 5: to try something. Yes, if they would have lost that fight, John,

1214
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 5: it would have been crazy. Yeah, like if that guy

1215
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: couldn't have continued, yeah, you know, so I don't know,

1216
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 5: but I thought they.

1217
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: Handled that right. They gave the guy time to recover

1218
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: and the guy went out. Look what he did.

1219
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: You'll talk about the right hand or somebody in the

1220
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: gym suggest that that guy used to be a baseball pitcher.

1221
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did.

1222
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 5: You see the way he threw that right It was

1223
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 5: the jib and he was on the mound. I mean,

1224
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: that is dude, takeshire perfect. And you know, and I

1225
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 5: always tell that story. Man, I've trained baseball like I've

1226
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 5: trained pitches that sucked. They were horrible, But man, did

1227
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: they have a right hand from help or a or

1228
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 5: a left hand from hell, that motion over and over again.

1229
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: We'll we'll pay dividends if you start punching at somebody.

1230
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's not like one hundred and eighty five

1231
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 7: pound guy either, that's a big boy.

1232
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he missiled that. That was that was a fastball.

1233
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 6: Oh god, you don't realize that answer just got you

1234
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 6: a raise for twenty twenty six. It was so good, right,

1235
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 6: it was so good, Like the fact that it took

1236
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 6: that long for the baseball analogy to be drawn. It

1237
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 6: wasn't drawn on broadcast, Kenny, and I didn't draw it here.

1238
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 6: He not aly he threw one hundred miles per hour

1239
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 6: as a member of the Cincinnati Reds system. Waldo Cortes

1240
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 6: a Coasta out of the Dominican Republic.

1241
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I thought he was Cuban.

1242
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's gosh, man. And I wouldn't have thought

1243
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 6: that necessarily, maybe if I was on the car.

1244
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean, but Johnny, you even look at it like

1245
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: I would, Kenny. I wouldn't even teach anybody to throw

1246
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: a right hand like that, just right.

1247
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 5: But when I saw it, go wow, that's and I

1248
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 5: didn't even know he was a picture at that point.

1249
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: And then when they brought it up, I go, wow,

1250
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: that makes that makes.

1251
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 7: I remember because going when I when I thought Talkingri Gomi,

1252
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 7: he was like in the Japanese system for to play baseball,

1253
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 7: and I remember just the way.

1254
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 4: He threw his overhand. I remember looking at him like, yep,

1255
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: he looks like a baseball player.

1256
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 6: Right before we let you go. In terms of your

1257
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 6: UFC athletes, what have you said to them about parrying

1258
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 6: or fingertips raised to the ceiling as opposed to in

1259
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: the direction of the opponent. Because the greatest of all time,

1260
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 6: John Jones masterfully employed uh an open handed style uh

1261
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 6: to become the best to ever do it.

1262
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, well, I mean, obviously I love the

1263
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 5: open handed style. You just can't do certain things and

1264
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 5: when you when you have rules and regulations, sort of

1265
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: fingers got to be pointed up. But I loved, I loved,

1266
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 5: you know, parry and punches is huge, but you know

1267
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 5: that's a that's defensively.

1268
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: You don't have your rooms outstretched for that.

1269
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 5: And uh, yeah, you gotta be I guess you gotta

1270
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 5: be mindful maybe is the word at all times, you know,

1271
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 5: but I could see things happened in the heat of

1272
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 5: the moment, but it's happening way too often. Uh, And

1273
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 5: somebody's got to jump in there, and they have to

1274
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 5: tell them your first warning right now is in the

1275
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 5: dressing room. Even if it's an accident, you're getting the

1276
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 5: point taken away.

1277
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, Ray, what would you think about

1278
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 7: that as a coach, knowing that listen, from here on out,

1279
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 7: every ipoke that takes place on.

1280
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 4: The feet is an automatic point at least one point deduction.

1281
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: Would you be cool with that?

1282
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 5: I would be cool with that because I don't I really,

1283
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 5: you only got two eyes.

1284
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: Man.

1285
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 5: You don't want to You don't want them getting poked continuously.

1286
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

1287
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 5: And they have to they have to do something to bet.

1288
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 5: They did it with boxing years ago. There was a

1289
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 5: million detached retinas. So they attached the thumber to the

1290
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 5: glove and that did put down on it because you

1291
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 5: couldn't take your thumb. Yeah like that, you know what

1292
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 5: I mean. So it was a little different, you know.

1293
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 5: So they they they addressed it, and uh, this is

1294
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 5: a little different because now you got five fingers coming

1295
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 5: at you, so you could get caught with the pinky finger.

1296
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get court with the thumb, you know.

1297
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 6: Hey, we have a guy on hold that had a

1298
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 6: massive weekend. So Ray, I want you to say hi

1299
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 6: to this man, Cody. I'll read the commercial spot later.

1300
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 6: I just want to give Ray a chance to congratulate

1301
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 6: a guy who's got to be top five at this point,

1302
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 6: the bona Fide UFC featherweight contender me and Mische Sherry

1303
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 6: is Steve Garcia maximizing the main event showcase over the weekend.

1304
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 6: Congratulations my man repping young La, loud and proud too.

1305
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 6: It's good to see a man.

1306
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 13: Congrats, Thank you guys, Thank you for having me on.

1307
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 14: Man, I must be doing something right if I get

1308
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 14: to have a chat with you guys, So I'm happy

1309
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 14: to be on.

1310
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 13: Thank you.

1311
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 5: Hey, listen before I go, Steve, I just want to

1312
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: congratulate You're happy for you, more happy for Winkle, John

1313
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 5: and Jaxon. Man, you're doing those guys right. I'm sure

1314
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 5: it's a great feeling for them to be back up

1315
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 5: in the spotlight.

1316
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: With a with a killer like you.

1317
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 5: So whatever you're doing, keep doing it. And you've got

1318
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 5: the style everybody loves. You're a finisher and what else

1319
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 5: are you gonna say?

1320
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: Man? But congrats, some great, great win against a tough kid. Man.

1321
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 13: I think great. I appreciate it.

1322
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, defin the offending your work. Man, You're you're a

1323
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 14: fantastic coach. So I'll let them know though for sure.

1324
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 14: I'm sure they love that. I'm like, hey, Ray, Ray

1325
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 14: was giving you guy a bunch of compliments. Don't don't

1326
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 14: get your hair too big.

1327
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you a funny story that I'm out

1328
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 5: of here. But I saw Craig make Greg Jackson. I

1329
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 5: saw him Greg, I do that.

1330
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: All the time. I'm so sorry about that.

1331
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 5: But I saw him in Jersey maybe like five months ago,

1332
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 5: and he took a picture and he's like, yeah, we're

1333
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 5: like two old gorillas in the zoo.

1334
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: People are standing at you know, he's got a crazy

1335
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: sense here.

1336
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 5: But it is true, like we've been around forever and

1337
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 5: you almost feel like people are looking at you going

1338
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 5: like who the fuck are these guys?

1339
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: You know? Great?

1340
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, Grey is a different character man.

1341
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 14: Well, well, every morning, like especially Monday mornings.

1342
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 13: Hey, coach, how you doing drunk?

1343
01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: Is always?

1344
01:04:59,040 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 13: You know what I mean?

1345
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: You even drink?

1346
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense anyway, enjoy man, you're on the ride.

1347
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: Enjoy every step of it. I think you're going somewhere,

1348
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 5: and the hats off to you, buddy.

1349
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 13: Thank you, but that means a lot. Thank you so much.

1350
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: I'm out of here.

1351
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 6: I'm getting out of here, all right. So great to

1352
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 6: have Steve Garcia with us live on the ANAKM Florying Podcast.

1353
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 6: I know you're probably making all the media around my man.

1354
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 6: So you know it's interesting because as a mixed martial

1355
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 6: arts athlete, right, you sort of envision, yeah, we got you.

1356
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 4: Okay.

1357
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 6: I seem like maybe he could hear us before Cody,

1358
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 6: but I can't hear us any longer. Maybe you can

1359
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 6: get him out and bring him back in if you

1360
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 6: need to code blue.

1361
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 4: This is a code red.

1362
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 13: If I'm out, I'll cock in.

1363
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. Yeah.

1364
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 6: So we've spent a lot of time talking about Steve Garcia,

1365
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 6: and what I was going to say, Kenny is like,

1366
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 6: as a mixed martial arts athlete, you sort of dream

1367
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 6: about the spotlight being on you, and then it is,

1368
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 6: and then it's like, how do you deal with your

1369
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 6: new life that is making the media rounds on a

1370
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 6: Monday and everybody wants a piece of you, and now

1371
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 6: the fights are going to get bigger? And then you

1372
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 6: get a main event like this and then you do

1373
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 6: what he does. You know, how do we sound, Steve,

1374
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 6: you got us, We're on, We're back on, man. So

1375
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 6: it's great to see and we appreciate your time. I

1376
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 6: know it's valuable, especially everybody probably wanting to piece of

1377
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 6: you after a monumental win. But I was going to say,

1378
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 6: you know, every MMA fighter sort of dreams of having

1379
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 6: the spotlight on them and fighting at a main event

1380
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: and becoming champion, and then it happens, and then you

1381
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 6: sort of see how you are equipped to handle it

1382
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 6: and pro the manner with which you attack that main

1383
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 6: event this weekend was unbelievable. I mean, Ken Flow doesn't

1384
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 6: text us a lot, and he's texting us, and so

1385
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 6: how did it feel to sort of handle that main

1386
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 6: event week and then take your opponent just right out

1387
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 6: of the fight like that?

1388
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1389
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 13: Man, it was well one. I was blessed, you know,

1390
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 13: they trusted me with it, with the minivan.

1391
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 14: I think I kind of said it a few times,

1392
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 14: everybody saying, Bro, you didn't give yourself some credit because

1393
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 14: you know what, bro, like, you handle that with you know,

1394
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 14: the best way you probably could have. But like at

1395
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 14: the end, of the day the US he was able

1396
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 14: to still kind of like give me that opportunity, and

1397
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 14: I wasn't going to drop the ball on that, you

1398
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 14: know what I mean. So everything, I tried to keep

1399
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 14: everything the same though, you know, and then I'm like

1400
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 14: the Apex King bro, so like that's my that's my

1401
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 14: that's my six knockout on the Apex bro.

1402
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 13: I need like a little plaque in.

1403
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 4: The corner or something, you know that happened.

1404
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, so but yeah, man, I just went out there, man,

1405
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 14: and I tried to keep everything the same.

1406
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 13: I trained my ass off for that fight.

1407
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 14: And uh, I was expecting a war with with with

1408
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 14: Onama because I know he brings it, you know, but

1409
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 14: you know, a few things I just I don't know.

1410
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 13: Maybe he was kind of feeling the pressure of the

1411
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 13: main event. I'm not too sure.

1412
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 14: I I had some kind of weird vibes in there

1413
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 14: a little bit with him, But it is what it was.

1414
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 14: And at the end of the day, I gotta go,

1415
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 14: you know, make my money. I gotta get paid, and

1416
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 14: this is how I feed my family. So I'm gonna

1417
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 14: I'm gonna capitalize every opportunity they can to, uh, you know,

1418
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 14: I guess not. You know, I'm not trying to be

1419
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 14: like at the center of the of the of the spotlight,

1420
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. But if it's given to me,

1421
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 14: I'm gonna take advantage of it.

1422
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 7: Well, see if you look dialed in, man, and you

1423
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 7: got off to a great start, and I thought that

1424
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 7: was gonna be really important. I thought it was gonna

1425
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 7: be a really important factor for the fight. Did that

1426
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 7: great start happen organically or was that kind of in

1427
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 7: the back of your mind too, to kind of get

1428
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 7: off to a good start against or no.

1429
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, I kind of didn't really know what to expect,

1430
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 13: but I do so.

1431
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 3: I thought.

1432
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 14: I thought their their team before, and they beat me

1433
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 14: a long time ago in Bellator Joe Warren got me

1434
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 14: on a decision and man, dude, they ate me alive.

1435
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna lie. I was. I was. I was

1436
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 13: happy I got it back, you know what I mean.

1437
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 13: I had to get one back.

1438
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 14: But I felt like they're very They're very analytical, which

1439
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 14: I really really respect, but sometimes you can overthee things

1440
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 14: and so I'm like, all right, what are they thinking?

1441
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 13: What are they thinking? You know what I mean?

1442
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 14: Because oh, I'm gona He's a tough cookie to crack

1443
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 14: because he he switches his stances. He does well out

1444
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 14: of both stances, has solid grabbling. It looks like when

1445
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 14: he hits you, you know, he hits pretty hard. I mean,

1446
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 14: he only hit me a few times and he you know,

1447
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 14: he cut me. So I just respected the guy a lot.

1448
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 14: But the moment that I kind of felt like things

1449
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 14: were a little off, I'm like, dude, this is my

1450
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 14: time to capitalize on the other moments, you know what

1451
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 14: I mean. You don't get too many moments to open

1452
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 14: up for you like that. So I was like, all right,

1453
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 14: let's freaking just go for it, man, And that's what

1454
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 14: that's That's what I'm about.

1455
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1456
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 14: I was like, you inner, you out, we fight, and

1457
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 14: we're not fighting, you know what I mean, We're going

1458
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 14: for it, so let's go for it.

1459
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 13: So that's always been how I approached it.

1460
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 4: It's amazing, man. So where do you think this win

1461
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 4: puts you?

1462
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 12: Man?

1463
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 4: You know, an i'ma obviously was ranked. You've been ranked.

1464
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: Now what what fight do you think realistically is going

1465
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 4: to be next for you?

1466
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 3: Well?

1467
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 14: I think it's probably puts me back at eleven, you know,

1468
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 14: because it didn't do much for me. But I just

1469
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 14: hope that it, you know, it shows everybody that I'm

1470
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 14: a gamer bro. I don't care where.

1471
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 13: I'm at in the car, Dude, I was.

1472
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 14: I was the very first five had an APEX card,

1473
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 14: you know, years ago. Now, I just headlined one, you

1474
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 14: know what I mean. I just I just need time,

1475
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. So I've always said it,

1476
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 14: if I have to do one by one, I don't care.

1477
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 13: I'm not scared anybody.

1478
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 14: I will do one by one. Of course, I want

1479
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 14: the easier routes, you know, to the top. Who doesn't

1480
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 14: want that? Probably more money? Uh pushed to the title.

1481
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 14: That's those are dream come trues right there, you know

1482
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 14: what I mean. But I'm still living a dream. I mean,

1483
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,959
Speaker 14: like I said, you're talking to a kid from Albucrie.

1484
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 14: He doesn't have a whole lot going for him, you know,

1485
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 14: at the beginning of his career. Again, you know, New

1486
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 14: Mexico is just very rugged.

1487
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 6: Uh.

1488
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 14: People don't really get behind their people too much. It's

1489
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 14: just kind of how it is here. But it's okay, man,

1490
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 14: Like I believe in myself. So I feel like with

1491
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 14: that being said, with everything that happened this past Saturday.

1492
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 14: I'm hoping I'll crack in the top ten. I think

1493
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 14: it's I think I'm worse the top ten, you know

1494
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 14: material for sure, you know what I mean, This is

1495
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 14: kind of not my for for me to decide. But yeah,

1496
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 14: someone like I was calling Josh Emmett, you know, kind

1497
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 14: of just making it rounds because he's available.

1498
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 13: I know he's available, right, I kind of I kind

1499
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 13: of hear a few different, you know, rumors.

1500
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 14: About Jean Silva and Arnold Allen and al Joe and

1501
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 14: all these guys that they're already getting potentially matched up.

1502
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 14: I haven't heard anything about Emmett. He just came off

1503
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 14: of a loss. He foughts the laws, the law should

1504
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 14: be available. But again, I kind of hear some of

1505
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 14: these rumors that are kind of going around. I was like,

1506
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 14: you know, EMMT has some name value.

1507
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

1508
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 13: I was like, let's freaking maybe we'll just go out

1509
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 13: there and I think that's a headline.

1510
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 4: Is show right, you know what I mean, there's a

1511
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 4: good call out.

1512
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 3: Man.

1513
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that would make sense. So, I mean,

1514
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 13: who doesn't want to see that?

1515
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1516
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 6: So there's so much to unpack here. Steve Garcia with

1517
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 6: as Live on the anak Imploring podcast, Right, Like, if

1518
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 6: I'm you, I don't know how much you hear as

1519
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 6: the uh just this Apex predator, right, we'll get the

1520
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 6: plaque on the wall, But how much you hear Yusef's

1521
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 6: law right giving David credit when he doesn't deserve it

1522
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 6: out of the other corner, right, And it's all audibly

1523
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 6: able to be heard because you're in the Apex, you know,

1524
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 6: and you're like, you can get it next number seven world,

1525
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean,

1526
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 6: Like you know you're here at him in the other corner,

1527
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 6: but yes, I think a headliner against Aljia. There's so

1528
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 6: many things in front of you, and as this division's

1529
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 6: you're now you are the Josh Emmat and you're the

1530
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 6: pre eminent knockout artist in this division. You know, I'm curious,

1531
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 6: like Laren Murphy doesn't necessarily seem to have the inside

1532
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 6: track on the title shot, you know, And I'm just curious,

1533
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 6: you know, Kenny and Part asks you about the division,

1534
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 6: and you know, do you recognize that like even like

1535
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 6: that it might not get slow played and all of

1536
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 6: a sudden, like things could happen really quickly for.

1537
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 14: You I've kind of been you know, told that you

1538
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 14: know what I mean, say, hey, man, like, don't be

1539
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 14: surprised if you know, shit just pops off, he says,

1540
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 14: the next the next, you know, twenty four months of

1541
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 14: your life could just freaking just take off.

1542
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 13: And I'm like, all right, well then let's get ready this.

1543
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 13: But just let me know what I got to do,

1544
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 13: you know what i mean.

1545
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 14: Like, that's why I pay you, as they probably need

1546
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 14: you to help me out because I don't come from

1547
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 14: a line of boxers or fighters or anything. I'm the

1548
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 14: first of my generation, my family, you know what I mean. So, uh,

1549
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 14: it's good to have the guidance that I have.

1550
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 13: And so yeah, man, I'm I'm I'm off for it.

1551
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 14: Man. If if if we get a little Ron Murphy,

1552
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 14: if we get a name, if we get an Al Joe,

1553
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 14: if we get a Brian Ortego, which I don't know

1554
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 14: if he's gonna stick around. There's a bunch of people

1555
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 14: in that that I don't know for sure, who's available,

1556
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 14: who's not available. I'm I'm not there person that just

1557
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 14: doesn't say no, I'm just like, all right, this is striking,

1558
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 14: let's go, you know what I mean, I'm not gonna

1559
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 14: I'm not gonna shy away from a from a challenge.

1560
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm not much of it. I told

1561
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 6: you so, guy, Right, But you know, maybe my dad

1562
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 6: wasn't like chief among the supporters of me going into broadcasting. Right,

1563
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 6: your dad has been front and center, right like, if

1564
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 6: I'm your dad, dude, I'm walking around Albuquerque, New Mexico.

1565
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, fucking what you.

1566
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 6: Know, Like that's what I'm doing. Yeah, what is it

1567
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 6: like for him? Uh, to see his son do what

1568
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 6: you've done?

1569
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 14: What I will say is I think my dad's kind

1570
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 14: of been kind of like your dad a little bit

1571
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 14: because at the be ending he was very against me

1572
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 14: doing this. He said, no, you'd be a doctor. I

1573
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 14: was like, no, look, gonna be a little doctor. Okay,

1574
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 14: maybe maybe a lawyer.

1575
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 13: I was like, no, lawyer.

1576
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 14: He's like fine, he says, you know, because I told him,

1577
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 14: I was like, I'm going to be I'm going to

1578
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 14: join the military.

1579
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 13: That was gonna be that was gonna be my route

1580
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 13: before all this kind of popped off.

1581
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 14: And once he decided he couldn't change my mind, he said,

1582
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 14: you know what, he says, I clearly can't change your mind,

1583
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 14: So I'm going to support you. And he went out

1584
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 14: and he got all these certificates to you know, all

1585
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 14: these strength conditioning programs, and he went to school for it,

1586
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 14: you know, a bunch of these on IT programs and

1587
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 14: stuff like that.

1588
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 13: So I have a fantastic dad.

1589
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 6: You know.

1590
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 14: He's like, if I can't stop him, I'm going to

1591
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 14: make sure I do everything I can make sure that

1592
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 14: he's successful.

1593
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 13: So I have a fantastic dad.

1594
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 14: He's seen things that most dads shouldn't see, you know

1595
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 14: what I mean, especially when it comes to like the

1596
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 14: way cutting being front center, seeing the son getting punched

1597
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 14: in the face, you know, repeatedly, and so and so forth.

1598
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 14: So I'm truly blessed about it. My dad is that

1599
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 14: hype man though, like honestly, he's he's a networker bro.

1600
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 14: Like he'll go he's he's literally like my voice. So

1601
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 14: he'll go around and he'll he'll talk good about me

1602
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 14: and stuff. Because I mean, you guys, probably you know,

1603
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 14: like that's probably why I've kind of been slow tracked

1604
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 14: in the in the grand scheme of things, right, because

1605
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 14: I'm not over here, you know, yelling at people in

1606
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 14: the face. You know, I'm just like, bro, just bring

1607
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 14: you dog. I'm freaking go. That's you know about you know,

1608
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 14: but my dad has always been that guy. That's always

1609
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 14: been a guy. He's like, you know what Steve says,

1610
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 14: you need yourself more credit, man, you need you are

1611
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 14: something more credit.

1612
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 13: You you know, you're doing a lot. You're doing a lot,

1613
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 13: you know, And I'm like, I don't know, man. I

1614
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 13: was like, I don't know. All I know is that

1615
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 13: I just got to keep winning. So we kind of

1616
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 13: bounce each other out.

1617
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 6: That's amazing. Well, maybe next time we'll have the both

1618
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 6: of you on the show. But yeah, it just as

1619
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 6: interesting when you get to this position, number eleven versus

1620
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 6: Larne's number four. You know, it just doesn't necessarily matter.

1621
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 6: I guess my last question for you would be, in

1622
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 6: terms of all this APEX success, right, what about like

1623
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 6: a comin event on pay per view or I guess

1624
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 6: on a numbered card or kicking off a big numbered card.

1625
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 6: I guess what is your relative appetite.

1626
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 13: For that?

1627
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 6: Because I would say the majority, even if it's a

1628
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 6: fifty one percent majority, the majority of athletes in your

1629
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 6: position have wanted out of the APEX and want that

1630
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 6: rub that they get from the.

1631
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 13: Crowd Yevin, I want. I want to live crowds.

1632
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1633
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 14: I like when I fought in Nashville against Cater do

1634
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 14: the energy, it was just some mouse man and they

1635
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 14: weren't really they don't know me, they were they were

1636
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 14: they were voting for They were like rooting for Cater,

1637
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 14: you know, and I still didn't care because the energy

1638
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 14: is still lesser. And honestly, it's funny because my you know,

1639
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 14: my wife and my family, you know, they're there and like, dude,

1640
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 14: like you were, you were switching the tide a little bit,

1641
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 14: like you were, you were becoming the chant. You were

1642
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 14: the one that was kind of like getting you know,

1643
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 14: the props and the recognition. And I was like, yeah, man,

1644
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 14: I could hear them, you know what I mean, because

1645
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 14: at first everybody was was rooting for Cater and then

1646
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 14: all before, but by the end of the fight, you know,

1647
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 14: everybody was like kind of either quiet or they were,

1648
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 14: you know, rooting for me. So I think I think

1649
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 14: with my style, I think I can relate to a

1650
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 14: lot of these guys. I think I can win them over,

1651
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 14: and you've got to give me a chance. So of

1652
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 14: course I want. I want those opportunities to be in

1653
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 14: front of, you know, a live audience in an arena,

1654
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 14: you know, when you're in an Apex. Like, I'm very

1655
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 14: limited on tickets. I have a ton of people that

1656
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 14: bugged me all the time like hey, can I get tickets?

1657
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 14: Like where can I buy tickets? I'm like, dude, it's

1658
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 14: at the Apex.

1659
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 13: You can't. You can't do that.

1660
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 14: And so I saw a ton of tickets when when

1661
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 14: especially you know, in this region. But I have people

1662
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 14: that travel all the time. They were telling me like, hey, man,

1663
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 14: like I just want to go watch you fight, but

1664
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 14: you're always at the Apex.

1665
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 13: And I was like, dude, I don't make that.

1666
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 3: Call, man.

1667
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 13: I mean this last one, I kind of kind of

1668
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 13: made the.

1669
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 14: Call because I was like, if I get a main

1670
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 14: event spot, I'm not gonna hate where is that?

1671
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 13: You know what I mean. I'm going to take the

1672
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 13: opportunity and run with it. So I got it, and

1673
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 13: now I gotta I gotta post it with.

1674
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: My face on it.

1675
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 6: Bro. So you're the man on the market. And in

1676
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 6: the future there will be uh tickets at the Apex obviously,

1677
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 6: but uh yeah, man, I got to say in closing,

1678
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 6: like if I was an opposing coach watching film and

1679
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 6: I didn't know you had a nickname as a fighter.

1680
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 6: I would be like, we're gonna break down Steve today,

1681
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 6: and this dude is like a mean machine. Like he like,

1682
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 6: who deserves credit for mean machine? Well?

1683
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 14: I used to be the machine. I used to training

1684
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 14: all the time. I used to grinde all the time.

1685
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 14: You almost had to kick me out the gym. But

1686
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 14: I'm sure you guys remember more comminic he had. And

1687
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 14: I hated that because I'm like, I want my own name,

1688
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 14: you know, And I wanted to I wanted something a

1689
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 14: little different. But everyone like you're just a machine, bro,

1690
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 14: And I was like, yeah, I don't, but someone has

1691
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 14: that name, Like I don't want to steal that name.

1692
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 14: And so, you know, time goes on, you know, I

1693
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 14: get I had tons of fights as an amateur. I

1694
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 14: had fourteen amateur fights, you know what I mean? And

1695
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 14: then I did you just mean that, bro?

1696
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 3: You just mean?

1697
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 13: And so like you know it kind of that and

1698
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 13: I kind of just like stuck a little bit.

1699
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 14: And then all of a sudden, Keg opened up the

1700
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 14: school and it was sistered with Jackson Wayne, and so

1701
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 14: I trained there for a little bit. Actually were trained

1702
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 14: there for like three or four years, and they're like, dude,

1703
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 14: I think I think that's your name. You're like, you're

1704
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 14: the Mean Machine dude. And I was like, I was like, yeah,

1705
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 14: I was like that kind of that kind of sounds

1706
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 14: kind of good man. I was like, that rolls off

1707
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 14: the tongue.

1708
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: I like it.

1709
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 13: And so we've always tried to make like cool art.

1710
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 13: Nothing ever stuck, but like trying to make like a

1711
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 13: terminator like yes, ailhouette, you know, never stuck. But that's

1712
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 13: how I got the name.

1713
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 3: Man.

1714
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 6: We have an artist Joe Romero, that I think could

1715
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 6: drum up something for Mean Machine. But yeah, the nod

1716
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 6: to the Dean of Fucking Me and Keith Jardine, one

1717
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 6: of the yeh time great nicknames. Well, Steve Garcia at

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Speaker 6: me Machine five oh five. Congrats on a huge win.

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Speaker 6: We'll let you get on with the rest of your day.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate you waking up early for us. You're a

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Speaker 6: dad now though, right you're probably up early.

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Speaker 13: Oh dude, it's the best, yes, I yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, congrats on everything. Congrats he's in to watch your

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Speaker 6: career developed. You mentioned the fourteen amateur fights and the

1725
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Speaker 6: We appreciate your time and hope to see on a

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Speaker 6: numbered card my man. First quarter twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 14: Hey, push for me, guys if I need all the

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Speaker 14: Thank you, got you bro.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations. There he is Steve Garcia, me machine with us

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Speaker 6: But Steve Garcia, you know, worked. Yeah, and we appreciate

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Speaker 6: All right, A lot to get to today, and I'm

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Speaker 6: won't slow you down. So we've done this file before.

1780
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 6: Adrian is his first name, Kenny. He trains out of

1781
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 6: Houston Tech Now align with the General Safe Side at

1782
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 6: Fortis MMA in Dallas. Rather famously started his UFC career

1783
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 6: at five and oh Kenny. He was all the rage,

1784
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 6: a little up and down over the last couple of years,

1785
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 6: working his way in the top fifteen, potentially with a

1786
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 6: win this weekend, and he re recorded his audio file

1787
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 6: yes to what he says is the proper pronunciation. So

1788
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 6: why don't you give that for the masses, Kenny, if you.

1789
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: Would, Yeah, he put the n ye in there and

1790
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 4: yan Yez yan Yev.

1791
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, so like yeah, a lot of his UFC film

1792
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 6: on UFC Fight passes Adrian Yanes and that is how

1793
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 6: he asked for his name to be pronounced when he

1794
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 6: signed with the UFC. But then he was like, you

1795
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 6: know what, that's not my name, So here's the new file.

1796
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 4: My name is Adrian yan Yez. My name is Adrian

1797
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 4: yan Yez.

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01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 6: So if I was a host of a show and

1799
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 6: I had trouble saying that, I would just put another

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Speaker 6: y in the middle of it, Adrian yan Yez Yes.

1801
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 6: And then our second file, Kenny, we just like to

1802
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 6: hear your Brazilian Portuguese. This is just selfish former world

1803
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 6: title challenger at bandonm Wait out of uber Land, Giaminus Jedie.

1804
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 6: She's lost three in a row. You coupled that with

1805
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 6: a no contest in what was an overturned win due

1806
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 6: to a failed post fight drug test after getting past

1807
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Speaker 6: Holly home, She's winless Now dating to February of twenty

1808
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 6: twenty three, Kenny nickname she Tara.

1809
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 3: What do you have?

1810
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 4: Maida Bueno Silva? Maira Bueno Silva? All right, Cody hit

1811
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Speaker 4: the button. What do we got Marara? Mara?

1812
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Speaker 3: I got.

1813
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Speaker 4: To get down with you.

1814
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Speaker 6: But imagine though, if that's our new theme. So I'm

1815
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 6: Kenny like as in next week, like, let us know

1816
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Speaker 6: what you think?

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Speaker 3: You like?

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Speaker 6: The Boston Garden Rapper? Do you like? And now here're

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Speaker 6: dicking around. Great to have Brian Petrie, Big Gun, Brian Petrie,

1852
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Speaker 6: Chief handicapper Anakin Kreyan Podcast. But the guy who manages

1853
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Speaker 6: our business is like making noise with a golf club.

1854
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Speaker 6: There's a huge bang. What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Who me? Hey? Hey, what's up?

1856
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Speaker 12: Big Gun?

1857
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Speaker 4: Hey?

1858
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 6: I feel like I should have at I don't know,

1859
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 6: no mopping, Hey Petrie, Yeah, I was watching baseball. Otherwise

1860
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Speaker 6: I would have given you your flowers.

1861
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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, brother, Thank you brother.

1862
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Speaker 6: He's mopping, you know. Yeah, he's mopping. Yep, he's vacuuming

1863
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Speaker 6: earlier as I'm trying to prep the show. It's an

1864
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Speaker 6: amazing homemaker, Brian. Yeah, So why don't you tell everybody

1865
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Speaker 6: uh about your See it's funny because you come on

1866
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Speaker 6: right and all I want to do is ask you

1867
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 6: about like salsa boy, you know what I mean. But

1868
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 6: I know we have other things that we have to

1869
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 6: get to, you know, like, so you hit an eleven

1870
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,520
Speaker 6: to one parlay to bring yourself right back into the conversation,

1871
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 6: didn't you?

1872
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 4: I did, I did. I'm not a parlay player. But

1873
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 4: it hit, baby, it hit.

1874
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 15: Had a little bit of luck, maybe some fight fixing

1875
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 15: involved who knows, But it doesn't matter because I got cash.

1876
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 4: Baby, we ain't turn them back. I ain't give him

1877
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 4: the money back. It's already let's go, dude.

1878
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 6: So I'm not trying to bury the lead here. So

1879
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you stay aggressive?

1880
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 3: Now?

1881
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 4: Are you now looking like?

1882
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 13: All right?

1883
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 4: How many cards do I have?

1884
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 14: Like?

1885
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 6: Because now you don't necessarily I mean, what are yes?

1886
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 6: Should I wait wor you?

1887
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 14: No?

1888
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 15: No, I'm full pedal to the metal at this point.

1889
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 15: I'm still staying aggressive.

1890
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 4: I got gotten too.

1891
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 15: I got a full Bean's wager coming up at the

1892
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 15: end of the show on a parlay as well. It's

1893
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 15: not it's not eleven to one, just because of the

1894
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 15: way the line is on this card.

1895
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 4: Uh, but yeah, it's it's a nice little juicy parlay

1896
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 4: to sink our teeth in two.

1897
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 6: So Cortes Acosta, Jeremiah Wells and the Cuban promo del

1898
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 6: Vaye problem one thousand paid eleven thousand, two hundred. So

1899
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 6: you shave your nuts from eighteen thousand, seven hundred and

1900
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 6: twenty eight to seven thousand, five hundred and twenty eight. Yeah,

1901
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 6: you could have done without Kenny hitting all of his bets.

1902
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 15: Yeah, Kenny is a sharp too, That's why I gotta

1903
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 15: stay aggressive. This guy hits, yeah, I would hit a

1904
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 15: one on my picks. I missed one fight, yeah, and

1905
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 15: it was a Timmy Kwama. Looked amazing, So it's probably

1906
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 15: to Timmy Kuama. But ye're almost a perfect week for

1907
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 15: your boy. Feels good. I need it one confidence, all high,

1908
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 15: let's go all right.

1909
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 6: So there is a segment of the Anakin Florian podcast

1910
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Speaker 6: listenership that tunes in for the free picks, right, and

1911
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Speaker 6: these picks will always be free. So we're gonna give

1912
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Speaker 6: you eight of them today. But I need you guys

1913
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 6: to be expeditious with the two prelims. Yes, sir at vandamwait.

1914
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 6: Adrian yan Yez is minus two thirty. He's fighting Christian Kinyonez,

1915
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 6: who comes back plus one ninety. So jan Yez Briye

1916
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 6: turns thirty two later this month, six and three in

1917
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 6: the UFC after a split loss to Daniel Marcos last December.

1918
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 6: Bigger name here his first start at twenty twenty five.

1919
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,440
Speaker 6: How do you see a planout for him against Christian Kinyonas.

1920
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 15: Yeah, I love Janiez and this is a guy I've

1921
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 15: been falling for a while. Listen if you kind of

1922
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 15: his contendenceries. His first six fights in the UFC five

1923
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 15: or six were finished by knockout, his kids, the real deal.

1924
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 15: He dropped two in a row looking against Vinciolova, and

1925
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 15: then a war with Daniel Marcos and you know those

1926
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 15: Kenny knows those Peruvians. They don't go down easy, so

1927
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 15: really tough fight. But I like him in this spot.

1928
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 15: Kenonas has been knocked out before previously, his rule Achille hill,

1929
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 15: Achilles heel is getting submitted on the ground he's we're

1930
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 15: naked joke, defenses non existent. But I like Ganeh. I

1931
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 15: wished the numbers a little bit lower.

1932
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 4: I get it though.

1933
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 15: He still has a name there and I like that

1934
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 15: he's been bouncing around camps, found a home at fort

1935
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 15: to some m A can't go wrong and say say

1936
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 15: so give me Adrian Yanyez.

1937
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, nicely done. You've always sort of planted your flag

1938
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,480
Speaker 6: on team yan Yez. Kenny Kenyonie is out of Tijuana,

1939
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 6: submitted in two straight, but last loss was all the

1940
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 6: way back in February twenty twenty four, so in theory

1941
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: twenty months of developmental time for him as he takes

1942
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 6: on Adrian yan Yez.

1943
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Kenyonez is a very good all around

1944
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 7: mixed martial artist, so Yanyez can't really take his foot

1945
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 7: off the gas and any modality, but I do think

1946
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 7: he's the better fighter overall.

1947
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 4: I love the fact that he's going to be or

1948
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 4: that he has been training with safe.

1949
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 7: I think that's going to help him dial in those fundamentals,

1950
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 7: especially defensively. So I'm with yan Yez. I wish it

1951
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 7: was a better number, like Brian said, but give me

1952
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 7: Adrian all right.

1953
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 6: One other preliminary selection at featherweight, Hirameial minus won thirty

1954
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 6: the favorite against Jamal Emmers, who is plus two plus

1955
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 6: one ten.

1956
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

1957
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 6: Brian Meal trying to respond to his first pro loss

1958
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 6: sustained at the hands of Jose Miguel Delgado at UFC

1959
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 6: three seventeen in June. What do you make of a

1960
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,879
Speaker 6: Meal here, this light favorite against the well traveled Jamal Emmers.

1961
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm trying to keep it tight, and you go, Kenn,

1962
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 15: you going to dropping words like modality over there?

1963
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: This guy smart? Uh listen, No, I like hider a Mill.

1964
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 15: I know he's coming off a horrible knockout over Delgado.

1965
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 15: Dogada is a real deal. Jamal Emers two was last

1966
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 15: three are by knockout as well. He's starting to really

1967
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 15: develop the hands, considering he was looked at as a grappler.

1968
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 4: But a mill Jamal Emmers low volume. A mill is

1969
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 4: just high volume.

1970
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 15: I think he's getting a back unless his chin is

1971
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 15: completely gone, which I don't think it is because he

1972
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 15: hasn't been in that many fights. I think that was

1973
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 15: just a really good job by Delgado. Give me Hyder

1974
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 15: a mil.

1975
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 6: Jamal Lemmers is plus one ten the underdog here, Kenny.

1976
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 6: It'll be his thirtieth pro MMA fight. He's won two

1977
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 6: of three. What do you make of the Featherway tier?

1978
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 6: Essentially pick him on DraftKings sports book Kid.

1979
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Emmers is pretty dangerous, but I like

1980
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 7: the consistency from a mill. Of course you coming off

1981
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 7: the loss, but I like the way he mixes in

1982
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 7: his striking with his takedowns. I think he gets it

1983
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 7: done with his grappling here if he's trying to be efficient.

1984
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 4: So give me Hyder and Mil.

1985
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 6: Can you mop when the podcast is over in ten minutes?

1986
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 4: I can't hear it? If that means anything. I can't

1987
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 4: hear it either, doing a great job.

1988
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 6: Well, I g I fabuloso. He's just rifling up my

1989
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 6: fucking oscios right now. Main card opener of middleweight Marco

1990
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 6: Tulio minus one eighty five matudo taking on c l

1991
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 6: D Christian Leroy Duncan plus one fifty four. I like

1992
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 6: this fight, Bri. Tulio hasn't lost since twenty eighteen. He's

1993
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 6: fourteen and one. Stop Trey Shawn Gore in April UFC

1994
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 6: three fourteen. He's two and oh in the UFC, but

1995
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 6: a decided step up in competition here against CLD.

1996
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:49,919
Speaker 4: What do you think BP about the middleweights.

1997
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, Trulio is a guy who's all action. He doesn't

1998
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 15: step backwards. He goes forwards the whole time. CLD likes

1999
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 15: to use his fancy footwork side to side, kind of

2000
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 15: pops on in you low volume. Trulio is not that

2001
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 15: he's gonna go forward. He has a good win in

2002
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 15: the continacery. Just saw about gar. He just look really

2003
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 15: good and you go see he beat that guy in

2004
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 15: the contendan series. Just Triulio guys mixing some takedowns what

2005
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 15: he wants to do and the biggest factor here. I'm

2006
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 15: going with Trulio. He's got a lot of stuff. This

2007
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 15: is a big fight for him, but he's dating big Norm. Okay,

2008
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,919
Speaker 15: so this guy can handle himself.

2009
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,759
Speaker 4: We all know it. So give me Trulio that stud.

2010
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 4: I like him a lot here.

2011
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 15: Actually usually I go CLD plus money's nice. Give me Trilio.

2012
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 6: So he's Dayton Norman Dumont who won to Kaitlyn Vieta

2013
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 6: in a close fight. You're throwing an R in his name?

2014
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 3: Huh?

2015
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 4: What am I doing?

2016
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 6: Throwing Trulio or something?

2017
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 4: Probably what is it? Tulio? Like Coolio but with the

2018
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 4: TA that helps me. I'm a nineties kid Coolio. Thanks Paradise.

2019
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 4: Let's go baby.

2020
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 6: Kenny Duncan. We've spent some time on him, talking to him,

2021
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 6: talking with him with Sean Shean about him out of Gloucester, England.

2022
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,879
Speaker 6: Five and two in the UFC. You know has momentum

2023
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 6: re established, does Duncan? He's won two in a row,

2024
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 6: four of five, stopped Eric Anders in round one in

2025
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 6: his last fight. But the underdog here is he tries

2026
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 6: to make it a perfect three to zero and twenty

2027
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 6: twenty five.

2028
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I'm such a nineties kid.

2029
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about Tulio Culio CLD, the East Coast family.

2030
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 6: I mean, bad dude, it's really.

2031
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 7: Well, okay, listen, I think this is probably going to

2032
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 7: be the fight of the night. Both of these guys

2033
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 7: are extremely dynamic, they have a lot of tools, They're

2034
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 7: very versatile when it comes to their striking. I think

2035
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 7: Tulio is probably going to be the better grappler overall,

2036
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 7: but both these guys throw a lot of unpredictable strikes

2037
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 7: and I could see either one of these guys winning

2038
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 7: by knockout if it goes to full fifteen. I think

2039
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 7: we're going to have a fantastic classic fight. But I

2040
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 7: think Tulio is a little bit more potent, and you know, CLD,

2041
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 7: I think probably has better footwork. But Tulio, I think,

2042
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 7: is the bigger guy, the harder hitter, and if he

2043
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 7: can get by CLD, I think this guy is someone

2044
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 7: to watch for sure. But I'm gonna go with the

2045
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 7: Brazilian here, Marco Coolio Tulio, and there it is like.

2046
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 6: The matchmaking there. Next up Bandon Waight veterans Briy Ricky Simone,

2047
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 6: the minus one fifty five betting favorite against Howney Barcelos.

2048
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 6: Amazing where life takes you. That I've said the name

2049
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 6: Howny Barcelos over one hundred times.

2050
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 4: I love it.

2051
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 6: He is plus one thirty bry Simone can lay claim

2052
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 6: to a win over the champ Morob Dwallas Willie. He

2053
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 6: is two and zero here in twenty twenty five. I

2054
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 6: think they're high quality wins. Jabed Nashrek Cameron Schmartman sixteenth

2055
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 6: REFC appearance for Simone. He draws Barcelos bep your thoughts, Yeah,

2056
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 6: big one of a batcher. I knocked him out as well.

2057
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 6: These both guys are kind of carbon copies each other, right.

2058
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 6: They like the They like to strike until they can

2059
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 6: issue the wrestling. I just think Simone's better everywhere. I

2060
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 6: think he is the younger fighter. I think he's a

2061
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 6: little more athletic. I think he hits harder Barcelo.

2062
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 15: So this guy, you know, he's doing big things, three

2063
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 15: or four fights in a win streak and a nice

2064
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 15: little winever Cody Garbrant, which I thought Cody MONI styleed

2065
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 15: him on the feet, But you know, Barcelo chef down.

2066
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 4: I know he's a bit older for the di vision,

2067
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 4: but he don't.

2068
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 6: Care, old honey, how many barsha?

2069
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 4: This guy's in to win it. But I do like

2070
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 4: Ricky some other in the spot. I think he's uh

2071
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 4: just a better fighter. But it's very even. I think

2072
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 4: it's gonna be close. I like the number on Simone.

2073
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 15: I like the over two and a half as well,

2074
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 15: which I think it's fairly low in DraftKings right now

2075
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 15: assume the props open up at But I like Ricky Simone.

2076
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't flow Barcelos mass skin like leather thirty eight,

2077
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 6: but man still getting it down. Three wins in a

2078
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 6: row and last two Peyton Talbot, Cody Garb Brant.

2079
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, man, I think Makahoney. Barcellos is a good fighter, dude,

2080
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 7: But I agree with the pan. I think Ricky Simone

2081
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 7: is just a little bit better of an athlete. I

2082
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 7: think he's got I think he's got better striking, He's

2083
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 7: a little bit more potent. Barcellos is really good on

2084
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 7: the ground. As far as putting his submissions together, I

2085
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 7: think he's the better submission guy, but you gotta hit

2086
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 7: the takedowns.

2087
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 4: You've got to be effective with your wrestling.

2088
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 7: And while he may be able to get it done,

2089
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 7: I don't know if he can get it done consistently,

2090
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 7: consistently with his wrestling offense against someone like Ricky Simone.

2091
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 4: So I like Simone here.

2092
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 7: I think his wrestling is going to be used mainly

2093
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 7: defensively to keep it on the feet, and I think

2094
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 7: he's going to try to land some hard combinations, and

2095
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 7: I think because of that, I really like him in

2096
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 7: this spot.

2097
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 4: Give me Ricky Simot, Yeah, yeah, all right.

2098
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 6: Next up on the main card, both the bond Fime

2099
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 6: brothers will be in action Saturday night at lightweight Ismail

2100
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 6: Ismael Modus two to twenty five taken on Chris Padilla,

2101
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 6: who comes back plus one eighty five so bon Fieme

2102
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 6: bry the older of the brothers, will be thirty in December.

2103
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,480
Speaker 6: Has alternated wins and losses across his first four UFC appearances,

2104
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 6: coming off the stoppage lost to Nazim Satakov in February,

2105
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 6: So a big spot for him here. And Padilla shows

2106
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 6: up in his bracket BP, what do you think?

2107
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, I can't get a hold of Padilla like this guy.

2108
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 15: You know, his nickname is Taco. He just eats tacos

2109
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 15: and skateboards all day.

2110
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 4: But he's in there.

2111
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 15: He's unefeen in the UFC right, he's good grappling, good striking.

2112
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 15: Came off a split decision went over Jai Herbert. I

2113
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,839
Speaker 15: can't get a read on this guy, and he's the underdogs,

2114
01:37:58,840 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 15: so it makes me want to take him as the

2115
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 15: und But I just think Bombfiende, he's in the camp

2116
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 15: with his brother. I just think he's a little more explosive.

2117
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 15: I think he's gonna have the bigger moments. I think

2118
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 15: this will be a close fight. He's gonna go to

2119
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 15: the decision. I think the judges are gonna like the

2120
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 15: bigger moments from bomb Fien here. I don't see him

2121
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 15: putting on Padia. Padilla has proven to be pretty durable,

2122
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 15: pretty pretty tough. But listen coming. I've lost the Knas

2123
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 15: side of Koff. I think it's gonna be probably top ten,

2124
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 15: top five sooner than later. There's no shame in that

2125
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 15: he's other loss in UFSC. He has been will stony.

2126
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 15: That guy's a killer in any given night, So no

2127
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 15: hanging hair hats on those losses. I like Bombfien here,

2128
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 15: I like bombfeed By. Decision a close one, but give

2129
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 15: me give me a bombfee.

2130
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 6: Kenny Chris Taco Padilla plus one eighty five or so

2131
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 6: right now in DraftKings Sportsbook three and O on the

2132
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 6: UFC Trains with Chris Cully and Chad George in his

2133
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 6: native California. You like the American Pidia Kenny or the

2134
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 6: Brazilian Bondfime, you know.

2135
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 7: I like the fact that Padilla is very durable, and

2136
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 7: I like the fact that he also is pretty versatile

2137
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 7: as well. Love that nasty elbow he threw was last fight,

2138
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 7: just awesome stuff. But I think that bump Feme is

2139
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 7: a little bit more dynamic, maybe has you know, throws

2140
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 7: a little bit more volume, which I think bodes well

2141
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 7: if this fight goes to decision. But Padilla is very consistent,

2142
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 7: but I'd like to see him throw a little bit more,

2143
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 7: be a little bit more active, and be more offensive.

2144
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 7: Sometimes he kind of waits and sees and tries to counter,

2145
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 7: which is a great style. I'm not sure that would

2146
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 7: be the best game plan here against bum Feme unless

2147
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 7: Ismael is not managing his energy well. If he gets

2148
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 7: tired in the later rounds, That's where I could see

2149
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 7: Padilla kind of coming back and getting the win, maybe

2150
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 7: even by stoppage. But I'm gonna go with the Brazilian

2151
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:32,879
Speaker 7: here Ismael both feme.

2152
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 6: All right next have featured bout at WELTERWEIGHTE and probably

2153
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 6: two guys who, despite some relative momentum, are outside of

2154
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 6: the top thirty in this division. Uro Schmedic minus one

2155
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 6: eighty five the ageless Muslim Salakov plus one fifty four BR.

2156
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 6: He turned forty one in March, but the current run

2157
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 6: the best of his UFC career on paper, three straight wins,

2158
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 6: the last two knockouts of Song Kanan and Carlos Lal.

2159
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 6: He's the plus one fifty four underdog. This weekend, going

2160
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 6: for his tenth UFC went against the doctor bp uh

2161
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 6: lead us off.

2162
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, listen, I you know I I have spoken very

2163
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,560
Speaker 15: ill of Muslim salakof in the past. You know I

2164
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 15: if I ever meet him in person, I have give

2165
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 15: him full permission with no charges press of spinning wheel

2166
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 15: kick my head off.

2167
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 4: My goddamn sure, because this guy's forty.

2168
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 15: One years old and he knocked out Carless Leo at

2169
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 15: a plus three seventy five hunderd doll h that's great.

2170
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 4: And Leo is boy, you know man? Yeah?

2171
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 9: And this.

2172
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 15: So this dude is getting better, right, and his cardio

2173
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 15: was always plagued in the past, but he's looked good lately,

2174
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 15: and he's looked fast and explosive. He got Ustra Medics

2175
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 15: who got put out two fights ago by portas Rano,

2176
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 15: which you know that guy cracks as well. But Usho

2177
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 15: likes to strike.

2178
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 4: He can mix it up. He's talling and he listens,

2179
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 4: don't lie.

2180
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 6: That's how he says.

2181
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 4: There were like shale at this point. No, it's bad,

2182
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 4: it's bad. Brou show Usho er USh Medics. I almost

2183
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 4: tolled thero.

2184
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 15: However you say it. He's gonna need it medic after

2185
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 15: this fight. Boy, I put it together because Muslimsalokof is

2186
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 15: gonna knock Hi out. And I see it, kay here

2187
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 15: from Muslim. I see him, this forty year old fucking

2188
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 15: dagger throwing some fancy shit out there catching medic and

2189
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 15: we're gonna we're gonna go to the bank with that

2190
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 15: one day. So give me Muslim Solikov. Sorry Surf for

2191
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 15: picking against you in the past two times.

2192
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 6: Ken flow Us the Doctor Medich former lightweight five and

2193
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 6: three in the octagon. After a big knockout of Gilbert

2194
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 6: or beIN on August ninth, trying to close the year

2195
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 6: with two straight dubs.

2196
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,799
Speaker 4: What do you think of this one? Metis the favorite

2197
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 4: Salakhov of the dog. I'm trying to.

2198
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 7: Throw something different out there, guys, but I think I've

2199
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 7: been hanging out with VP a little bit too much

2200
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 7: here because I see it the same way. I think

2201
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 7: that Udo medic Metic is a good fighter, but I

2202
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 7: don't think he's gonna be a huge threat to someone

2203
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 7: like Solidkoff, who has some good momentum right now. I

2204
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 7: think Meditch is probably gonna want to keep it on

2205
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 7: the feet here, and I don't think that will go

2206
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 7: too well for him. I think he's susceptibly getting hit.

2207
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 7: I don't think he's got the best chin and muslims

2208
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 7: Selikoff here is. He's a young forty one John, a

2209
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 7: young forty one young man.

2210
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 4: Give me Sally hoffp.

2211
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 6: Whatever you want to say is spry, and I will

2212
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 6: just say for whatever it's worth. More often than not,

2213
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,839
Speaker 6: when both of our guys convictedly are on an underdog

2214
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 6: that number moves on DraftKings sportsbook. They both like the

2215
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 6: ageless Muslim Salakov at plus one fifty four. All right,

2216
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 6: ken Flow will lead on the final two fights Comaine

2217
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 6: have edited flyweight Joseph Morales monus two to seventy match

2218
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 6: Schnell plus two twenty Morales.

2219
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 4: I like this kid.

2220
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 6: I like his attitude. He's the only one I've seen

2221
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 6: sort of go at DC in a fighter meeting, and

2222
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 6: it was in a somewhat playful way. But he submitted

2223
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 6: a LEVI idris at UFC three nineteen in August in Chicago,

2224
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 6: bride a win Season thirty three. The Ultimate Fighter now

2225
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 6: spitting it forward as a near three to one favorite

2226
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 6: and what will actually be his fifth UFC appearance across

2227
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 6: two stints taking on the formerly ranked Matt Schnell can

2228
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 6: flow lead us off on the comde of if you'd

2229
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:00,600
Speaker 6: be so.

2230
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I saw these odds and I was

2231
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 4: a little kind of perplexed by it.

2232
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 7: Not because I don't think Morales is a good fighter,

2233
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 7: but I I want to get more information on Morales.

2234
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 7: I want to see him in more UFC fights, And

2235
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 7: because of that, I think Matt Schnell, you know, could

2236
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 7: play spoiler here, and you know he's been up and

2237
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 7: down in his performances, but I do think he's gonna

2238
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 7: be the better striker overall. I think he's got to

2239
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 7: be careful being on the ground with someone like Morales

2240
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 7: who's good at hunting submissions.

2241
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 4: But Schnell isn't too bad in that realm either. And

2242
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 4: if you get a Schnell who is competing well, who

2243
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 4: is fired up, he's a really good fighter, you know,

2244
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 4: if you catch him on a good day. So I

2245
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 4: like Schnell in this spot, I really do. I think

2246
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: Morales is a good fighter. I just want to see

2247
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,919
Speaker 4: more from him. But give me Matt schnell Man.

2248
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 6: Nicely laid out Matt danger. Schnell's been on the roster

2249
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 6: since twenty sixteen, got that big win over Jimmy Flick.

2250
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 6: Obviously he needed that, Briye, he had been finished and

2251
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 6: three straight prior trying to avoid a fifth loss in

2252
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 6: his last six here. But yeah, when he's right between

2253
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 6: the ears, you know, a little chinny but has a

2254
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 6: lot of high end experience. BROI what do you think

2255
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 6: about the fly guys here in the comin event? Yeah,

2256
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 6: So Kenny and I have been on the same page

2257
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 6: the entire time. I thought for sure he's going Morales

2258
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 6: because I can barely sit in my fucking seat without

2259
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 6: streaming at the rooftop sow.

2260
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 4: Morales is I'm all in on him this.

2261
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, he runs through Snell.

2262
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 15: Snell retired for like three months, then came back, got

2263
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 15: the flick fight. This guy's kind of one footed. When

2264
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 15: I fed out, you got Morales, who got cut uncre

2265
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 15: mostly from the UFC. How to go through the ultimate

2266
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:37,560
Speaker 15: fighter win it.

2267
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 4: Now he's back.

2268
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 15: I saw him fight in Chicago. He looked phenomenal. His

2269
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 15: CounterPunch he's really good. His real naked jokes really good.

2270
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 15: I love his mental I love with this kid's about.

2271
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 15: I think he's steamroll Snell here. I think Snow's obviously

2272
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 15: being chinty a little bit. You know, he's got big hearts,

2273
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 15: so you gotta put him down. You got to put

2274
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 15: him out, putting him down side enough, got to put

2275
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 15: him down. But I think Joseph Morales is going to

2276
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 15: the Samwich Shop this weekend. Boys, he's gonna get a

2277
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 15: little club and stuff, love, love and sub I'm I'm

2278
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 15: predicting it right now and put my money where my

2279
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 15: mouth is. That is going to be a hefty bet

2280
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 15: froom this weekend. I think we're gonna get a Morales

2281
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 15: submission after he drops match. Now I'm all over Jose Morales.

2282
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 6: Main event in the welcherweight division, first headlining spot for

2283
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 6: both Gobriel Bonfime and Randy Brown bon Fieme Kenny the

2284
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 6: minus one eighty favorite, Randy Brown the plus one fifty underdog,

2285
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 6: so bon Fieme the one slip up against the hardened

2286
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 6: Nicholas Dolby. Otherwise he has won all his UFC fights.

2287
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 6: Five and one of the Octagon took a split over

2288
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 6: Stephen Thompson. Highly competitive fight back in July. A lot

2289
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 6: of us thought wonder boy one, but now he draws

2290
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 6: the well versed and UFC tested rude boy. How's my

2291
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 6: pots well, Randy Brown, Kenny Whody fancy in the mind.

2292
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 7: Event, Gosh that this was a tricky one that I've

2293
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 7: kind of gone back and forth on and uh, you know,

2294
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 7: after watching a lot of tape on both guys, I

2295
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 7: think I have my answer. But you know, Randy, he

2296
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 7: tends to struggle sometimes against guys who grapple very well,

2297
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 7: and Randy could. I think if he's able to stop

2298
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 7: the takedowns, I think Randy can win this fight. I think,

2299
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 7: especially with that long jab, with his confidence gaining with

2300
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 7: each and every fight. He's fought a lot of tough

2301
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 7: guys out there, so I think Randy can win this fight.

2302
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 7: But if and this is maybe a big if, but

2303
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 7: if Bonfein decides to just make this a grappling fight

2304
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 7: and look for takedowns and and really try to frustrate

2305
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 7: Randy and and close that gap, I think Bumfeve can

2306
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 7: win this fight and and do it pretty efficiently and

2307
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 7: maybe even easily.

2308
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 4: If he's able to get Randy down to the ground.

2309
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 7: And I know Randy's been working on that aspect of

2310
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 7: his game, but there are certain times where I kind

2311
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 7: of scratched my head and be like, ah, I don't

2312
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:47,560
Speaker 7: know if that was the right response.

2313
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 4: And I love Randy as a martial artist and talking

2314
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 4: to him. He's a great dude.

2315
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 7: I think this is a tough fight for him, though,

2316
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 7: bumfi If he if he's successful with his grappling, I

2317
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 7: think he wins this one. But Randy, I think, is

2318
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 7: going to always going to be a danger on the feet,

2319
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 7: so should be close. But I'm gonna go with Gabrielle

2320
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 7: bonfin the other.

2321
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 6: Bonfime Bonfme number fourteen in the world. Brown is unranked

2322
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 6: bry at present Bonfieme twenty eight. Randy Brown thirty five

2323
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 6: Brude Boys fourteen and six. Across twenty UFC appearances, he's

2324
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 6: won eight of ten and the losses in there the

2325
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 6: split to Brian Battle last December competitive fight Battle miss

2326
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 6: his weight and then the submission loss in Perth to

2327
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 6: the now champion Jack Dela Mattalana. So that history could

2328
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 6: benefit the still championship aspirational Randy Brown. If he can

2329
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 6: win in the main event this weekend, how do you

2330
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 6: see a plan on? Yeah, I'm just glad Randy Brown's

2331
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 6: getting main event. It feels like it's a little overdue.

2332
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 6: I know he's a little in consistent in UFC, but

2333
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 6: he is. He is has sparkles, right, I.

2334
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 15: Mean the MMA math nerds are going to come out,

2335
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 15: Oh my god, Darby beat bon fiend, but fucking Randy

2336
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 15: Brown just knocked him out.

2337
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

2338
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 15: A lot of people are gonna start analyzing it that way.

2339
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 15: What I see is actally hal Kenny saw it. You know,

2340
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 15: Randy Brown's sake. Then defence is seventy four percent, which

2341
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 15: is okay, But the problem is is takedown. The fence

2342
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 15: is decent, right, but it's his ability to get up

2343
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 15: that's a little bit of an issue because you look

2344
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 15: at his fights, he's only gets takes it down once

2345
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 15: or twice a fight, but he just doesn't get up.

2346
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 15: He doesn't do anything. You know, he plays the guard

2347
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 15: a lot. I know he's semi confidences. He's got long legs.

2348
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 15: Maybe throw some legs up through, some arms up, whatever,

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01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 15: But bomb fiem. You know, he went fucking take down

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01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 15: Hunting Againsteve one and Bore Thompson got boot out of

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01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 15: the building.

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01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 4: Was not a great performance.

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01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 15: I gott to imagine he's got to improve his takedowns

2354
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 15: or improve his game plan because this guy is explosive.

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01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 15: He almost had to do Albry out of there in

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01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 15: that fight. Then he gassed and then he got put out.

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01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 15: I mean, people forget that. But he's fixed his gas.

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01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 15: Takes and seams both guys in five rounds zero, first

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01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 15: time ever in five rounds, at least in the UFC.

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01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 15: That is something that I'm looking for, maybe a late

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01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,600
Speaker 15: round stop. It's for one of these guys, and my

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01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 15: horse is gonna be bomb fiend. I just think he's

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01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 15: a little bit more on the on the wrestling side

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01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 15: and a little bit more pop on his hands. But

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01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 15: I'm not counting out Ruberg Randon Brown. This is not

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01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 15: a confident pick. This is also a pick on my

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01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 15: switch later in the week, once I get a little

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01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 15: more detailed into it. But right now, standing here on

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01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 15: a Monday, like sixty percent confident in bumping.

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Speaker 6: Nicely handled boys with the eight selections here on a Monday,

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Speaker 6: six days out.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate that your commitment does not go unnoticed.

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01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 6: And yeah, I think we hope to see the Jamaican

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01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 6: flag flying in the Apex this weekend. A lot of

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01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 6: us have been thinking and praying for us, for everybody

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Speaker 6: in Jamaica. All Right, it is now time for place

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Speaker 6: about Brie's big parlay whack to shave his not down

2381
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 6: to seventy five hundred dollars in the red Ken Flow.

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01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 6: Hits his straight wagers on Norman Dumont plus two hundred

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01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,600
Speaker 6: and forty six dollars, straight on Jeremiah Wells plus one

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01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy one dollars, and you also hit straight

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Speaker 6: on Steve Garcia for nearly three hundred and ninety dollars,

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01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 6: so plus eight hundred bucks for Ken Flow year to

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01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 6: date for him, minus five hundred and sixty five dollars. Fellas,

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01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 6: you got one thousand bucks.

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Speaker 4: To spend this week?

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01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 6: UFC Fight Night, bon Fiem versus Brown Brian Petrie, how

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01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 6: do you spend your band?

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01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 15: If I didn't need thousands to catch up with Ken Flow,

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01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 15: the thousands going Joe for Joseph Morales, that's only gave

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01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 15: me like three seventy back. Can't do that, so we

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01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 15: gotta spread it out. Let's go Joseph Morales Leg one,

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01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 15: Let's go Ricky Simone Leg two, and then bring it

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01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 15: down to the prelimbs with me. We've got a little

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01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 15: underdog selection here. Always she always fights for my money.

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01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 15: Tisha penningson a plus one fifty four. I think that

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 15: that number is going a little unnoticed, So that brings

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01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 15: me at plus four sixty eight.

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01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 4: Give me four thousand on that.

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01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 6: Bab nicely, don I saw that Tisha Trres Pennington number,

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 6: and I also felt like it was a little bit yeah, yeah,

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01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 6: thank you, Ken Flow. You look like a goddamn movie star.

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01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 6: Jesus God, stunning Conley, make your selection at any time.

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01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:59,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with four hundred dollars on Tulio, my

2409
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 7: boy Coolier. Yeah, man, he's good. All right, sim give

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01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 7: me four hundred and then two hundred. There's two hundred

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01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 7: dollars left for my man Salad cough.

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01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 4: Hey, all right, there you go. Love it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah at Brian Petrie MMA if you want more from

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Speaker 6: our chief handicapper, host of the MMA Takes podcast.

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Speaker 4: My men, you look pretty good today yourself, you know,

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01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 4: thank you, sir.

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01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 15: What does spill the beans a little bit? I was

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01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 15: gonna save this the next week. I'm excited because it's

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01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 15: a bucket list item for me. Your boy got tickets

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01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 15: to msg UFC th twenty two. Hotel booked. Oh, he

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01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 15: gets booked. I'll be in Madison Square Garden.

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01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 4: Baby, let's go.

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01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, we gotta we gotta take a picture. I mean,

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01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:42,560
Speaker 6: we gotta have it.

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01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,600
Speaker 15: Miss you, missed you in Chicago. You're a busy man. No,

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01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 15: you know, that's that is what it is. But I'll

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01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 15: be there for two days. Hopefully we link up, get

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01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 15: a picture, get a bro hug. But yeah, super excited

2429
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 15: for that.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 6: That's amazing that you are making that investment. We'll see

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01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 6: at MSG, buddy, and we'll make our pay per view

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01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 6: pitch next week.

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01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 4: You gotta, but I'll see you boys. Have a good one.

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01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 6: Area is Brian pgy with us for the main event

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01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 6: challenge and place your bets. And thanks to all of

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01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 6: you for indulging us over the last two hours or

2438
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 6: so live on the DraftKings Network or on YouTube. We're

2439
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 6: actually right back with you Sunday morning, November ninth, six

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01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,759
Speaker 6: days from now, we will do our UFC three twenty

2441
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 6: two preview. Some scheduling things going on. Got to get

2442
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 6: the show out before I head to New York City

2443
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 6: later Sunday night, and we're excited to bring that to you,

2444
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 6: So a complete recap before you watch your American football

2445
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 6: if that applies. One final thought, Kenny, I just have

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01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 6: to say yes, sir, to the Canadian sports fans and

2447
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 6: the Toronto Blue Jays fans. I'm fucking sorry, you know,

2448
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 6: so close, you know, as I sit here and look

2449
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 6: at this, you know, New England Patriots World Championship banner

2450
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 6: from two thousand and three. And I say this as

2451
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 6: a Boston sports fan who feels so grateful to have

2452
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 6: experienced I'm not trying to be a dick, you know,

2453
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 6: but like I was trying to explain to my daughter

2454
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 6: that three random banners want of like double digit champion

2455
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 6: and ships that we've all had the chance to experience.

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01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 6: And the Blue Jays were a millimeter away, oh my god,

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01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 6: from eating the Dodgers in the World Series on any

2458
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 6: number of different occasions, and I just think for those

2459
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 6: people who are Toronto Blue Jays fans, Toronto Maple Leafs fans. Yeah,

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01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 6: the raptors want it, but again, this is a Maple

2461
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 6: Leaf's Blue Jays community. Some of them are Buffalo Bills fans.

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01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 6: I feel for sports fans that have been starved, and

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01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 6: I know you're all broken hearted, and you know we

2464
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 6: feel for you, even though the in division Boston Red

2465
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 6: Sox fan in me doesn't feel that bad.

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01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 4: And we feel for you. Oh my god, they can't

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01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:36,560
Speaker 4: fucking buy one, you know.

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01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 6: Yeah that was runny, Yeah all right, Thanks to me

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01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 6: and machine Steve Garcia, Thanks to Ray Longo, Thanks to

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01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 6: Jason and Brian Petrie and Cody Merrow. Thanks to Mike

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01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 6: Jones as well, Will Berger on the team, and we're

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01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 6: right back with you Sunday morning. Don't forget to check

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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 6: out the Anak and Flory and rewind as well. In

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01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 6: advance of UFC three twenty two over on UFC Fight Pass.

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01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 6: With that for Ken Flow, John anisigning off for now.

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01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 6: We'll talk to you in six days. Until then, you'll later.

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01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 8: Kenny Floyd, I got a baby.

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01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 3: We didn't