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Speaker 1: Oh God time, Good afternoon. Welcome to New Week everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the show. It is One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from Bill's Training Camp. My name

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Speaker 1: is John Murphy, usually with Steve Tasker. Steve is off

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Speaker 1: today tomorrow. Chris Brown, bills insider from Buffalo bills dot com,

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Speaker 1: joins us with a lot to talk about the Bills

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Speaker 1: just off the practice field just a little bit less

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Speaker 1: than an hour ago. Hello Chris, Happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving Steve a run for his money here.

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Speaker 1: I want to tally up the days and see who's ahead.

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Speaker 1: First question for he Steve, Chris, are you surprised that

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Speaker 1: Tasker is off another day? No? That's our Twitter pull

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Speaker 1: for today is how many I retreeted the wrong thing? Then?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, let me get my phone out. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: let me guess guess how many vacation days for Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker four months into his tenure forty seven? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call ETO three. We can't talk about that. I'm tempted. No,

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Speaker 1: Steve is good. He's got the CBSBAS network, got the

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Speaker 1: big job with the CBS television network, the NFL on CBS.

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Speaker 1: He's got to take care of that. They had a

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Speaker 1: couple of meetings and we are happy to have Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: happy to have Chris's expertise with us for the next

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Speaker 1: three hours and again tomorrow on what is the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the final week of training camp. Chris, it goes

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Speaker 1: by fast, don't you think to a certain extent. I

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Speaker 1: mean we're we're grinding. I mean not We're not doing

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Speaker 1: stuff nearly as physically taxing as the players, but we

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Speaker 1: are grinding out here and get getting the news out

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Speaker 1: to people. So you know we're working. Yeah, we're working too,

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's you know, there is a certain

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Speaker 1: grind element to training camp for everybody that has to

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Speaker 1: cover it. Again, not doing nearly what the players or

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Speaker 1: the coaches are doing. So it doesn't always move fast.

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Speaker 1: Not every day moves fast. Today I thought moved quickly

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Speaker 1: though too. And today another interesting day. I find this

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Speaker 1: team fascinating, more fascinating than Yeah, then many Bills teams

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Speaker 1: I've seen in camp for a variety of reasons, and

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Speaker 1: the quarterback competition is one, but there are others, there

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Speaker 1: are other competitions, there are other questions about the team.

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Speaker 1: I just find this kind of an intriguing team, and

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Speaker 1: my interest was peaked the way they played last Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: There was mostly good things, but so many interesting things

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Speaker 1: that went on Thursday night in the preseason opener. Now

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Speaker 1: we're halfway away from between that game and week number two,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to this Friday night's game in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland too. I think there's a lot of different things

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on here, right, But what is

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Speaker 1: everybody going to keep it? One quarterback? Yeah, to the

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Speaker 1: point where sometimes people I think I think sometimes people

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Speaker 1: kind of focus too hard on it. Yesterday, Well they

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Speaker 1: missed the other stuff. Yeah, but even the quarterback stuff. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: for example, the two more veteran quarterbacks, Nathan Peterman and A. J. Mccarroen,

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Speaker 1: got bumps, little tiny bumps. I saw it. Mccarroen got

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Speaker 1: stepped on, hopped around a little bit, talk to trainers,

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Speaker 1: came back and took more snaps, no big deal. And

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on late late in practice, Nathan

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Speaker 1: you know, he told people, I'm fine and yet driving

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Speaker 1: down here today in listening to reports I'm thinking it's

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Speaker 1: almost as if they're out of quarter are down to one.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what you're wondering. I do think you can overdo

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Speaker 1: there's other things to watch, and everything that happens with

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Speaker 1: that group of three is not the most important thing

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Speaker 1: that happens. All that being said, though, we did have

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Speaker 1: Josh was exclusively with the twos. Uh, nobody else really

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Speaker 1: and that was Nathan Peterman. So what does that all mean?

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Speaker 1: It may not mean a hill of change tomorrow, may

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Speaker 1: what I am. What started rolling in my head was,

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Speaker 1: he meets the meeting. Well, here's my question for you.

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Speaker 1: See I'm thinking, and McDermott has said it over and

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Speaker 1: He has gone on record as saying they do count

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Speaker 1: performances in games heavier than in practice in the evaluation process.

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Speaker 1: So if anything, and you and I were arguing with

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Speaker 1: enough in that first game to merit more time on

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Speaker 1: but you could surmise that, Yeah, that you could very

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Speaker 1: this competition continues, but I also think that there's enough

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Speaker 1: by the way, the other issues today. Yeah. Also on

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Speaker 1: second year cornerback. He's got a lot going on, bought

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Speaker 1: of those secondary We'll ask him about that, So Todavias

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Speaker 1: White's going to join us at twelve thirty and come

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Speaker 1: out of at one o'clock from USA today. Lorenzo Rays,

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Speaker 1: one of their national NFL writers here at camp today.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us live at one o'clock to talk about

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Speaker 1: because he got in a scrap with Micah Hide today.

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Speaker 1: They're jaw jacking after a play. He grabs Mica High's

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Speaker 1: maybe detached, but not outside the numbers, and he had

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Speaker 1: one guy outside the numbers on one side or one

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Speaker 1: on the other side. He doesn't care about convention. He'd

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Speaker 1: rather be unconventional because I think it rss defense is

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Speaker 1: to stop and think. And if a defense has to

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Speaker 1: stop and think, now they can't play as fast as

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Speaker 1: they usually do. And now the offense has the upper hand.

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Speaker 1: And that's what his whole philosophy is about, giving his

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Speaker 1: eleven the upper hand on the defense of eleven. Chris,

437
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Speaker 1: you spent time with us on the show last Friday.

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Speaker 1: I apologize if I asked you this question Friday. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember. What's the chance that we are seeing the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's offense finally belatedly become a twenty first century

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Speaker 1: NFL offense. I mean, I think I'm getting well. I

442
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Speaker 1: think I think they're on the way there for sure,

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Speaker 1: for sure. And Brian Dable, you know, I think I

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Speaker 1: think whether he coached at Alabama last year or not,

445
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Speaker 1: probably would have advanced this offense into the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: But I think that year at Alabama even has him

447
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Speaker 1: pushing the envelope further. It really kind of immersed him

448
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Speaker 1: in a lot of cutting edge stuff because We always

449
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Speaker 1: see how the college game kind of filters in in

450
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Speaker 1: bits and pieces to the pro game, and then eventually

451
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Speaker 1: it takes hold. Whether you want to go all the

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Speaker 1: way back to the advent of the wildcat in the league,

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Speaker 1: you know under Sperano down in Miami and O eight

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Speaker 1: oh nine with David Lee down there, to anything that

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Speaker 1: we see now, run pass options, all of these things,

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Speaker 1: packaged plays where you have a choice between two plays.

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Speaker 1: These are all coming from the college game. Being immersed

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Speaker 1: in the college game last year, probably at the highest

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Speaker 1: level under Nick Saban as the offensive coordinator. I think

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Speaker 1: that year did wonders for coach Dable because I think

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Speaker 1: it pulled him away from NFL convention and I think

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Speaker 1: made him even more innovative as he comes back to

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Speaker 1: the NFL now with the Bills eight three fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: What did you see that you liked most about Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable's offense? Lest there to night against Carolina. Call on

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Speaker 1: the line from Chris and Richmond, Virginia. Go ahead, Chris,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with us, John right, Chris, glad

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Speaker 1: to be on board. You guys do a great job.

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Speaker 1: I was thank you, not how like you guys were saying. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's just a completely new, dynamic offense, a complete overhaul

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Speaker 1: compared to Bryant. Excuse me, Rick Dennison's offense from last

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Speaker 1: year is a predictable game. It's not run first. It's surprising,

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Speaker 1: surprising and refreshing to see past first offense. You were

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Speaker 1: able to see all the quarterbacks on excuse me the

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Speaker 1: preseason game on Thursday nights have an opportunity for success.

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Speaker 1: Everybody had a touchdown pass. Everybody was able to line up. Actually,

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Speaker 1: it seems like they have a great grass with the

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Speaker 1: bay Buck already obviously still working at pink stout still season,

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Speaker 1: but even just some of the other formations, people like

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin line up in the slot, Sean McCoy or

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Speaker 1: Chris Ivory or Marcus Murphy for that matter, line out wide.

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Speaker 1: I think it's great. It'll be an exciting year for

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Speaker 1: the offense. Thank you called Chris. And Here's where I'm

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Speaker 1: advising you, Chris me, maybe Chris rounded let's tap the

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Speaker 1: brakes a little bit. It was one game, one preseason game.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Dabele was asked about it today. You know

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Speaker 1: all the various formations, and he said, you know, when

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Speaker 1: it's all said and done, we ran a pretty basic offense.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's right. You know the plays that

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Speaker 1: they ran, but the formations were different, the look was different,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was a pretty basic offense. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But when I talked to coach McDermott after the game

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Speaker 1: in the postgame press conference room and asked him about Dable,

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Speaker 1: the first thing he said to me was, I liked

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Speaker 1: the rhythm we had in the first half, and I

497
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Speaker 1: think that's the perfect way to capture what was so

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Speaker 1: interesting about Buffalo's offense last Thursday night. The rhythm and

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Speaker 1: the way the plays were called, executed, way they unfolded.

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Speaker 1: There were very few hiccups, particularly in the first half,

501
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Speaker 1: and there was a rit You felt that there was

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Speaker 1: a rhythm to the offense. It wasn't a situation of

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Speaker 1: fits and starts, which we saw a lot of last year,

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Speaker 1: just offensive play calling, stalling, not innovative enough, not creative enough,

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Speaker 1: and players feel that, Murph. They feel that out on

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Speaker 1: the field, like oh my gosh, we're gonna bang our

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Speaker 1: head against the wall here again. I mean, think about

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Speaker 1: Week two against Carolina last year. I think I brought

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Speaker 1: this up last Friday on the show, but think about

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Speaker 1: Carolina last year in Week two, You're going against what

511
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Speaker 1: was the number three run defense in football. And I know,

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy's your best offensive weapon. I get that, and

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Speaker 1: you want to utilize him, but holy cow, I mean

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Speaker 1: it was like running your head into a brick wall

515
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Speaker 1: forty times last year in Week two and they can't

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Speaker 1: deviate from it at all at all. And you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: use McCoy, but oh, let's get him out in space.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how he does out there. You know, maybe

519
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Speaker 1: that'll help things like that. And I think the coordinator

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Speaker 1: you have now is going to explore those other options.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna do it on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 1: not Sunday at halftime when nothing's working. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Exactly what you mean. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing some of that. Gary on the line from

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Speaker 1: his cell phone, Go ahead, Gary around the air, Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: how y'all doing gooreat, how y'all doing good? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: like to say that I'm happy that he's gonna make

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Speaker 1: in game adjustments. I think that is gonna be huge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got tired of like two three possessions of the

530
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Speaker 1: same thing, and then maybe at half, like Christmas, just things,

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Speaker 1: We'll make an adjustment. Why can't we make adjustice while

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Speaker 1: a drive going on? Exactly? You know, well, Chris, you

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Speaker 1: had that conversation with Brian David. All right, listen to

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Speaker 1: this one, yeah, Gary, Chris had that very conversation right

535
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Speaker 1: after he got named to the position. The first time

536
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Speaker 1: the media had an opportunity to talk to him was

537
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Speaker 1: down at the Senior Bowl in January and I was

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Speaker 1: down there and I asked coach about halftime adjustments. They

539
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Speaker 1: were a problem for this team last year. They would

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Speaker 1: come you know, they usually put together and games where

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Speaker 1: they put together a good first half, it didn't seem

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Speaker 1: like they could duplicate it in the second half. They

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Speaker 1: come out in the offense would stall, whether due to

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Speaker 1: lack of adjustments or the adjustments that they made were

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Speaker 1: the wrong choices to make. And I asked coach Table

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Speaker 1: about that, and he said to me, well, adjustments don't

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Speaker 1: happen only at halftime. Adjustments happened as soon as the

548
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Speaker 1: game is underway. And I think that's a big thing

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Speaker 1: that he learned up in New England for all those

550
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Speaker 1: years under Coach Belichick. You've got adjustments happening for the

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Speaker 1: very first series of the game. And I think I

552
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Speaker 1: might have mentioned this on the show once before Tumor,

553
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Speaker 1: But he's telling me about how Coach Belichick deployed every

554
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Speaker 1: assistant he has on the sideline or up in the

555
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Speaker 1: booth to execute a specific function in scouting the opponent

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Speaker 1: while the game is going on. And it's not just

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Speaker 1: what formation are they end, what call are they using

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Speaker 1: on third and two. It's about post play communication between players.

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Speaker 1: He's got assistance watching guys and how they're talking to

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Speaker 1: each other after the play's over. He referenced one situation

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Speaker 1: where they ran a play on a down in short

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Speaker 1: and it was a slant and they got the first

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Speaker 1: down on the third and two because you know, they

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Speaker 1: completed the pass for the slant and the first down,

565
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Speaker 1: but then the drives to all a couple of plays later.

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Speaker 1: One of the assistants noticed, after that third and two

567
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Speaker 1: the safety talking to the corner saying, you know, gesturing

568
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Speaker 1: and everything like I'm gonna I'm gonna come down harder

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Speaker 1: on that the next time they're in that look, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick that slant pass off. If we're in

571
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Speaker 1: a third and short again, just be ready for that

572
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Speaker 1: and sit behind me. I'll jump the route. So, just

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Speaker 1: by the gesticulations of the safety and the conversation they

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Speaker 1: had after that play, the assistant coach deduced, I think

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Speaker 1: they may want to jump that the next time we

576
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Speaker 1: give them that look. So what are the Patriots call

577
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Speaker 1: in the next series? They line up in the same formation,

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Speaker 1: they call a slant and go and it's a forty

579
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Speaker 1: r touchdown. But it's those little nuances of the game

580
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: that he has all of his assistants watching and observing

581
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Speaker 1: and reporting back to him so they can make those

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Speaker 1: adjustments from syas to series. I'm not saying Dable is

583
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Speaker 1: going to get this staff to that level, but you

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Speaker 1: better believe he's gonna have those assistant coaches looking at

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Speaker 1: stuff like that to make those kinds of adjustments. There's

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Speaker 1: a call from Mike in Brockport, New York. Go ahead, Mike,

587
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Speaker 1: you're on the air with us, all right? Yeah, you know, essentially,

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Speaker 1: you know I was, you know, from watching I wanted

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Speaker 1: to know firsthand, first off, what you guys think, Um,

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Speaker 1: who would be better fit for you? Know after watching A. J.

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Speaker 1: McCarron or uh Peterman. Um, I did notice how Dable

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Speaker 1: you know, did put his quarterbacks in situations to where

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Speaker 1: they had to be mobile. Um, who's a better fit

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Speaker 1: for well? You know mobile? Who? Um who's better at

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00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: Alan's the most Alan's the most mobile quarterback on this

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Speaker 1: ross a mile. Um. I think if you have Alan

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Speaker 1: in the lineup, RPOs and a read option game are

598
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Speaker 1: in your playbook. They're an option that you can turn to.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can do read option with Peterman

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Speaker 1: or McCarron at all. They can roll out and make

601
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Speaker 1: plays not nearly as good as Alan. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: we've said from the start here Murph, and this is

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Speaker 1: well you know, we're not speaking out of turn here.

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Speaker 1: He's the most physically gifted player on the roster, not

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Speaker 1: just because of his arm, but because of his legs.

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Speaker 1: He's got better legs than anybody on this roster too,

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Thanks for your call. It's clouding

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Speaker 1: up here in Pittsburgh, New York rain this afternoon. Yeah

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Speaker 1: I saw. Actually, Radar says it's raining not too far

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Speaker 1: from here. We might get rained in the next few

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Speaker 1: minutes of Bills made it through practice with just a

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Speaker 1: couple of rain drops. Tomorrow might be a different story.

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Speaker 1: Even more chance of rain tomorrow for practice eight forty

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Speaker 1: five in the morning. Chris Brown is here in place

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Speaker 1: of Steve Tasker, who's out the next couple of day.

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Speaker 1: Steve will be back for our final training camp show

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Coming up next Trydavius White sits down with us,

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Speaker 1: the Bill's second year corner who does a lot of dancing.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little about that and talk about possible

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Speaker 1: nicknames for the Buffalo Bill secondary. Davis White gonna join

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Speaker 1: us when we return. Chris and I here until three

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health from Bill's

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Speaker 1: training camp, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. The Bills

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Speaker 1: maybe want us out well. The right Sundays are not

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Speaker 1: the same, and it's only four Sundays away from the

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Speaker 1: regular season opener. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown joined by a second your quarterback to an aby,

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Speaker 1: it's White. You've made a name for yourself as a dancer,

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Speaker 1: as an entertainer out there on game days. Yeah, gotta

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Speaker 1: live with it. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to compt.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants me to dance. The camera's always and around,

632
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Speaker 1: wanted me to dance. So you know, I'm gonna try

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Speaker 1: to keep it up a little bit. I like, come

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Speaker 1: with something low this year that you seem to have

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Speaker 1: a willing teammate. And Dion Dawkins, he's out there grooving

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, some of Dj Milks cuts. Big,

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Speaker 1: big guy got swag. I tell him to me, he

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Speaker 1: can do a backflip. Have you ever seen he definitely athletic,

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Speaker 1: He's definitely add So I believe that, Okay, believe it.

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Speaker 1: When is the best time to dance? Like saying, game

641
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: day during you you've done it all the time, pre game,

642
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: during the game, in the snow, in the snow, in

643
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: the sun. When's the best what's the optimum time to

644
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: get into dancing up? You know, third down when it's

645
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: a key situation. I feel like my dancing get the

646
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: crowd pretty much pumped up. Uh So if it's a

647
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: big dirt down in the game, uh and crunch time

648
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: like two minute or something like that, I feel like

649
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: that's the perfect time to get the crowd pumped up

650
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: and uh you know, sort of give us that that

651
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: extra age that we need to you know, pretty much

652
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: execute on that. And I get the sense you really

653
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: like the shout song, right, You're like when everybody yeah, yeah, yeah,

654
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: I love that. So I love I love when I

655
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: offense scores, I get to hear it. So the more

656
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: they score, the more I get to hear it. So

657
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: I love it. We're with the Bill's Corner, Trudevious White

658
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: as they come off the practice field from this practice

659
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: you've been You've had a busy offseason getting into your

660
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: second year, including the fact that you spent money to

661
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: buy your mom a new house spound Louisiana tell us

662
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: about that. Where is that? Uh, well, it's not in

663
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: s Report, Um so it's in Bolger City. So the

664
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: city next over, Uh, just a lot of it's a

665
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: lot of better, you know, pretty much, it's got better

666
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: school systems on casual Uh just the community and everything is.

667
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's more safer over there.

668
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: So and uh, that was the house that she she

669
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, it was the perfect fit for her.

670
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: And uh so I just tried my best to you know,

671
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: pretty much suited up in front of ship the way

672
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: that she wanted, you know. So when she get in

673
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: that she owned pretty much. I had to do a

674
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: lot of work. Players often say that, you know, when

675
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I make money, I'm gonna buy my mom my house.

676
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: But you actually to execute it. You have to do

677
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: a little right. You gotta think about the way. Yeah,

678
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a lot of people around me

679
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: that pretty much helped me along the way as far

680
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: as purchasing it. U. I had her friend, her good

681
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: friend to help me furndish and pick out things that

682
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, she she thinks she may like the bed

683
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: and all everything. So it was fully furnished when she

684
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: got in it. So I mean, I feel like, yea,

685
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: it was a huge deal and uh, I can't wait

686
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: to get down there and see see how it is.

687
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: That's something that will last, isn't It's something that no

688
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: matter where your career goes, and it's going pretty well,

689
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: but that will always be there, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, Hey,

690
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: I want to ask you to this came up on

691
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: social media over the last weekend. People are looking You've

692
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: kind of encouraging to look for a nickname for the

693
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's defensive backfield. Where does that come from? What

694
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: are you looking for that? H? I feel like it's

695
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna be up to the media and the fans to

696
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: pretty much name that. I mean, come up with it.

697
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'll play on the field with

698
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: it has just come within time. So if we continue

699
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: to pick up where we left off last year and

700
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: continue to take the ball away and be fishing on

701
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: defense and uh, you know, sort of making hard of

702
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: the offense score points on us, I feel like, you know,

703
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: the fans and you guys are pretty much come up

704
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: with it as the season going on. Have you seen

705
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: any nicknames Jeff that you like? Uh what, I really

706
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: haven't because I know fans pretty much. They pretty much

707
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: hadn't thrown no ideas out there at me. So, uh,

708
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna come though. Chris, what do you think of

709
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: ball stalkers? Everybody does ball hawk? Yeah, I want to

710
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: do ball stalkers. But that's the thing I don't. I

711
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: don't know about that because it's just like we're looking

712
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: at the ball, getting caught, think about it, stalking the ball,

713
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: starting taking the ball. What you think about the bill collectors? Oh?

714
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: I like that? You like that high term? You know,

715
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: you like that? I like that one. I like that.

716
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: Who came up with that you did. I did, Yeah,

717
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: I need mic or we kept any ideas, just you know,

718
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: bill collectors. Where's the creativity back there? That's great? Look

719
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: at the big I'm saying, yours is good. Where where

720
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: are they coming? When they got they came with something,

721
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: but mine was just over the top, you know. So

722
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: we need to pick Friday night in Cleveland so that

723
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: I can kind of test that out. Take that for

724
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: a spin broadcast, right, it'd be nice. Then get it

725
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: agains tight Ride. That's all right, right, you're just talking

726
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: back and forth through him a little bit on tight

727
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Rid is my guy? I love it. I feel like

728
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna call you messing with no. No, he's gonna

729
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: try to attack me so and he doesn't put it

730
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: up for grams that offer no heaps, no, not at all.

731
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: So we gotta we gotta be after efficient and all

732
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: in our looks in and our disguises and trying to

733
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: confuse him a little bit, the sort of thinking he

734
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: thinks something is not and he just throw one of

735
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: those balls up there and the bill collectors that might work.

736
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I like that. That is pretty good. Don't don't know

737
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: abody to take credit for it now? Kind of kind

738
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: I kind of picture Tray's face on a hundred, you

739
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, all formers across there, Yeah like it. Hey, Tredevius, Trevius,

740
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: why this is our guests? By the way, from Bill's

741
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: training camp, I read where you told someone that you think, uh,

742
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: your partners back there in safety Poyer and Hide the

743
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: best safety tandem in the NFL. Right, absolutely, tell me

744
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: why you think that. What you see with those two,

745
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: it's just the way they come down and fit the round,

746
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: the way they just study the game, And I feel

747
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: like the way that they, you know, perform on the field,

748
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. You know, you can get

749
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: in in the meeting room, but when you get on

750
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: the field and you take the ball away ten picks

751
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: between two guys leading the NFL, I mean, the number

752
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: speaks for themselves. So I feel like we have two

753
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: quality safeties and two Pro Bowl caliber players. You know,

754
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: they they're not similar type of players, yet it's hard

755
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: to distinguish them from each other, Like you wouldn't want

756
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: to have one and not the other, you know what

757
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: I mean. It's good as a as a commo, they

758
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: work well, especially well to you. It's definitely I mean,

759
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: those guys, they're they're like two they're two good friends.

760
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: First of all, when they first got here, they created

761
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: a bomb before I even got drafted. So when I

762
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: got here, I just try to kind of glue my

763
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: way inside and they welcome me with open arms and

764
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the ever since, damn, you know, we've been pretty tight.

765
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, our relationship off the

766
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 1: field just helped us on the field so much. More's

767
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: a new piece obviously on the field, but off the field.

768
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, you've got a new secondary coach and coach Butler.

769
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: You've had some time with them. Now, just what are

770
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: your impressions. What's been the give and take like between

771
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: you guys on the field and him. I love the

772
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: energy he brings every day in the practice. Just from

773
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: a film, film work, you know, you can tell he's

774
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: just his football knowledge is next to none, and he's

775
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: been helping us out game. He already knew the level

776
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: we was at, but now he's just trying to elevate

777
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: that and just trying to put us in position to

778
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: make place. And speaking of that, what about the nuances

779
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: of the game, Because you come in last year, you

780
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: know you're trying to mind your p's and queues. Just

781
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: execute your assignments, do your job. But now are you

782
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: to raise your game? Do you have to kind of

783
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: take those nuance Like today for example, you know you're

784
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: you have a coverage assignment, but you see where the

785
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: quarterback's eyes are going, and you go make a pass

786
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: break up on Jason Krum. Not your coverage assignment, but

787
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: you saw a play was there to be made. Are

788
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: those the little nuances that you're trying to work on.

789
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: That's definitely how you take your game to the next level. One,

790
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: you can see the quarterback. All defense is all about

791
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: seeing the quarterback and breaking on the bar. And in time,

792
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: you can see the quarterback and anticipate throws, not guests,

793
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: but anticipating what he's going with the ball and see

794
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: what he's hitching. Was the quarterback hitch and you break

795
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: on the ball. And so to make the play is

796
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: out of your out of your out of your range

797
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: or out of your coverage, out of the call. I mean,

798
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: that's how you take your game to the next level.

799
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: That's how you take the ball away, that's how you

800
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: jump routes and stuff like that. So you know, that's

801
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: what our defense is all about we have the freedom

802
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: to look at the quarterback and break on the ball.

803
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: So I love the style of defense and play they

804
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: coach chances definitely know that coach makes during philosopher, don't

805
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: be scared to make mistakes. You know we corrected if

806
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: the guy try to, you know, pretty much get you

807
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: on a double triple move. But I man, we gotta

808
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: you gotta win something, loose something, but just win more

809
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: than you lose. Um And speaking of coaching, you have

810
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: a new cornerbacks coach, John Butler this year. Talk about him,

811
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: what he's brought to your meetings, what he's brought to

812
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: the practices on the field, So much enthusiasm, He's upbeat

813
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: every every day. He's telling us to get better every day.

814
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: And the jails that we do before practice, Uh, they

815
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: just transition to the field even better. So I feel like,

816
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, just having that different, that different outlook, just

817
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: somebody coming from somewhere else and just come in and

818
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: learning all defense and teaching us different ways. Did he

819
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: see Uh? I think it's been a definite plus for us.

820
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: You're a couple of days away from wrapping up your

821
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: second NFL training camp. Tell me how you view yourself

822
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: as first compared to last year? How far I had?

823
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Are you now that you were a year ago at

824
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: this time? Uh? The last year, I feel like, you know,

825
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: I was just using my athleticism or now I think

826
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: the game has slowed down so much more for me

827
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: because I pretty much know what Mike and Jordan how

828
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: they how they play, different comes of how they how

829
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: they see things. So it just helped me out a

830
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: little bit more. So I can take chances knowing those

831
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be over the top, or they can

832
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: take chances just know I can be there to build

833
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: them out. Also, so if you know, with us just

834
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: playing together that year, and it just give us the

835
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: confidence just to know that, you know, we know the defense,

836
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: we know where to expect, we know what we can

837
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: do in a certain situations and we know what we

838
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: can't do in so situations. So I feel like, you know,

839
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: when the games come on Sundays, that all help us off.

840
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: Last one for me is I know and I know

841
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: you see some guys more than others on the practice

842
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: field that there who's impressed you on offense? Oh my god,

843
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: Robert Foster is I feel like you know he's making

844
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: a knife from making a lot of players his speed,

845
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: he can always speak. You got to respect it. So

846
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: Robert Fosters, the guy is just sticking out to me.

847
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Pay Tredevius Sinks, the leader of the Bill Collectors. I

848
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: love its white joins us here stick around. We got

849
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: a lot more to come from Bill Training Camp one

850
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: Bills Live on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bill's Training Campags One Bill's Life, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, John Murphy. Chris Brown, Bills insider from

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com, is here. Steve Taskers off. Everybody

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Speaker 1: scratching ahead about that one, but we're happy to have you. Chris.

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Speaker 1: Good to be here. Look'd be ready for gratuitous shots

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Speaker 1: at Tasker and his absent teaism Hy seven days in

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Speaker 1: counting he's been off. In a final report. When this

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Speaker 1: is over, we're talking about today's practice, but about the

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Speaker 1: Bills in general, even last Thursday's game, the way the

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Speaker 1: Bill started. What did you think? Our Twitter poll today,

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Speaker 1: what did you think of Brian Dable's offense? On Twitter?

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Speaker 1: We're asking that question. What did you like the most

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Speaker 1: about Brian Dable's offense was it the fact that they

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Speaker 1: threw the ball over the middle, which they did considerably,

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Speaker 1: and they seemed to do it here on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: Was it the fact that they had a pretty good

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Speaker 1: pace going with the offense. Was it the fact that

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Speaker 1: they had multiple formations? Give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three fifty twenty three one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Emmanuel from Hawaii is on the line

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Speaker 1: with us. Hello, Emmanuel, go ahead. Good morning, UM, Good

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Speaker 1: morning John, Good morning, Chris. Hi. The office is concerned.

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Speaker 1: I thought that it was wide open and had multiple formations.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to call in last week and say I

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Speaker 1: agree with Tasker when he said that Josh Allens is

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Speaker 1: sit for a while because I think he decided need

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Speaker 1: to learn. Um. I know everybody's like, hey, let's get

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Speaker 1: this Ferrari out there, but so many quarterbacks drawing it

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Speaker 1: to the point where I think we should have patience.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about linebacker Love. I think he

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Speaker 1: was making plays and nobody's mentioned them. I think he

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Speaker 1: was like one of the gems. I got to watch

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Speaker 1: the game like three times, and I think he's just

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Speaker 1: making play. So maybe you can unseat somebody. And also

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Speaker 1: my last comment Jerry Hughes. Jerry Hughes, I really think

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Speaker 1: like he's always involved in skirmishes and fighting things of

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Speaker 1: that nature, and for me, he hasn't done anything in

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Speaker 1: four years. I understand people say he was a double

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Speaker 1: team than all that, but if you took Cleo Man

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Speaker 1: or the guy in Denver and put them on Mars,

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Speaker 1: they still begin like ten facts a year. How come

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Speaker 1: he still is a viable starting defensive in on the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I don't I don't get that. Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: frustrated with Jerry Hughes. I just don't think he's earning

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Speaker 1: it all right. Thanks to Manuel Um your first year

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Speaker 1: point out in Mike Love, who was it was? It

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Speaker 1: was it Lorenzo Alexander who walked by our group the

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Speaker 1: other day and said, don't go to sleep out of

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Speaker 1: Mike Love. The guy's making a move, And I thought

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Speaker 1: to myself, he's right. He has made a movie. He

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Speaker 1: kind of stuck out a little bit in Thursday's game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's getting rotated up a little bit more with the twos.

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Speaker 1: You know, spend a lot of time Thursday night playing

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Speaker 1: with the threes. But made an impact and he's primarily

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Speaker 1: being used as a defensive end here, even though he's

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Speaker 1: got a number in the fifties emmanual. He is defensive

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Speaker 1: end at least in terms of how the Bills are

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Speaker 1: lining him up on a consistent basis. And he's got

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Speaker 1: a little something to his game. I haven't quite come

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Speaker 1: to realize exactly what tangibly that is that works for him,

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Speaker 1: but he can make plays. And you know what he's

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Speaker 1: got just from looking at him, I believe is length.

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Speaker 1: And the more I'm around this game, especially in recent years, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you realize that for edge guys, and he plays the edge,

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Speaker 1: he's a defensive end. Some of the outside linebacker's length

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Speaker 1: is huge, long legs, but especially long arms to disengage

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Speaker 1: from blockers and to well keep offensive tackles from getting

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Speaker 1: their hands into your chest and if you can hold

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Speaker 1: them in length. He's a rookie from South Florida. But

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Speaker 1: I just like the way he can lower his hips

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Speaker 1: and get around the edge, like you see the players

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Speaker 1: do that. Defensive ends, particularly do that hoop drill where

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Speaker 1: they've got to get around the hoop at an angle,

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Speaker 1: you know, drop their hips and still maintain their speed.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good at doing that, I think there are

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Speaker 1: some raw skills to work with there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that means he's going to get a roster spot,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's probably going to get a good

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good as far as Jerry Hughes goes. I

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Speaker 1: think what we have there is a guy whose production

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Speaker 1: His production fell off, and to a certain extent it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to debate that for a second. I

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Speaker 1: think also, if you watch a lot of the games

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Speaker 1: last year, and I talked a long time to Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Alexander about this, if you watch a lot of the

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Speaker 1: games last year, there are several times where the Bills

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Speaker 1: are getting interceptions because either Jerry Hughes or Lorenzo Alexander

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Speaker 1: are coming around the edge and they are half a

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Speaker 1: step from making contact with the quarterback. They don't get

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Speaker 1: the sack, they don't even get the quarterback hit before

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Speaker 1: the ball is out. But what they do do is

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Speaker 1: generate a hurried throw, and a lot of hurry throws

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Speaker 1: last year wound up being interceptions for tradevious White Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poyer and Micah Hyde, and I think there is value

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Speaker 1: in that, even if you don't see the value in

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Speaker 1: the sack total. Now. I think the other thing that

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Speaker 1: was working against Jerry and Lorenzo a great deal, and

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo confirmed this for me was the fact that the

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Speaker 1: middle pocket push just was not there the way it

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Speaker 1: had been in years past. And you say, well, what

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Speaker 1: the heck does that mean? Well, if you have a

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Speaker 1: push from the middle and you're getting around the edges

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Speaker 1: and end, that prevents the quarterback from eluding you and

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Speaker 1: stepping up in the pocket to deliver the football because

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Speaker 1: there's also a pocket being pushed from the middle. Star

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Speaker 1: Latoula is going to help in a big way with that,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to prevent an escape route for a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: which means Jerry Hughes is wrapping a quarterback up instead

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Speaker 1: of watching him step up in the pocket and away

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Speaker 1: from him. I think the Bills, well, they need more

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Speaker 1: from Jerry, use I think they'll get more this year.

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Speaker 1: But you know who's kind of a key player in

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Speaker 1: this formula. Chris Trent Murphy, who missed about a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than a week of practice with a groin

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Speaker 1: injury and then left today with what looked like maybe

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Speaker 1: he tweaked a little bit. Huh yeah, came back, was

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Speaker 1: not getting the full compliment or reps. Shack Lawson was

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Speaker 1: taking most of the first team reps, but did take

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Speaker 1: some one on ones against offensive tackles and got sprinkled

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Speaker 1: in for some team reps and then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden his day was over. So you're worry that maybe

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Speaker 1: he re aggravated. I know that's not a word that

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Speaker 1: you like to use. He aggravated his growing again? Is

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Speaker 1: that better? How do you reaggravate? You've heard me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he aggravate. Maybe he aggravated his growing again. We

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll find out probably tomorrow when I think

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Speaker 1: coach is scheduled to talker. Is he not going to

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Speaker 1: talk to the last day, Yeah, you're right, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. I don't think it's until Wednesday, although maybe

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Speaker 1: we can ask coach Frasier about his condition. I worry.

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Speaker 1: I worry about him getting to the regular season opener healthy.

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Speaker 1: We're getting we're getting to that bewitching hour where you

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Speaker 1: really want to kind of get the guys who are

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Speaker 1: going to be playing a lot for you healthy, and

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Speaker 1: right now he is not healthy, So it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a concern, and you wonder if he's going

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Speaker 1: to get any preseason game time because if he tweaked

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Speaker 1: that growing again, they're gonna hold him out this week

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Speaker 1: for sure, in the hopes of getting him healthy and

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Speaker 1: ready for the regular season opening. We got Sean McDermot

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Speaker 1: coming on the show at two o'clock. Coming up next hour,

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Speaker 1: look around the NFL. A camp visitor here Lorenzo Reyes,

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Speaker 1: who is an NFL writer NFL reporter for USA Today.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend he compiled the twenty things we learned

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Speaker 1: from the first week of NFL preseason football. We'll go

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Speaker 1: over some of them with him. Come on back for that.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown is here for the vacation need Steve task

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Speaker 1: got off the climpth about Lorenzo. I was very excited

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Speaker 1: to have him here. I know Chris Brown is here

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Speaker 1: for the vacation eaed Steve Tasker. It is one Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from Bill's Training Camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio Network Stories Update. The update from Buffalo Bills training

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Speaker 1: camp where our show originates today The Bills on the

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Speaker 1: Field eight forty five. This morning under cloudy skies and

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Speaker 1: cool temperatures. No fans allowed to practice today, it was

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Speaker 1: a closed practice. The Bills got a lot of work

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Speaker 1: with Josh Hallen with the second team today. He moved

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Speaker 1: up after not taking many second team reps through the

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks at training camp. Josh Allens took

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Speaker 1: almost exclusively all of the second team reps in today's

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Speaker 1: training camp workout. A big day for Zay Jones, the

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Speaker 1: second year wide receiver, last year's second round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: who had missed the first couple of weeks at camp

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Speaker 1: and then was non contact for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Non contact Jersey comes off and Zay Jones has a

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Speaker 1: pretty good day, looked refreshed and energized and ready to go.

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Speaker 1: The Bills will practice here again tomorrow eight forty five,

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Speaker 1: and then again on Wednesday, their final two training camp practices.

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Speaker 1: They are both open to the public at eight forty

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Speaker 1: five Tuesday and Wednesday. Coming up for the Bills on

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Speaker 1: Friday night, preseason game number two, they'll travel to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: to play Tyrod Taylor and the Cleveland Browns. That is

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Speaker 1: a seven thirty kickoff for the Bills in Cleveland. Coming

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Speaker 1: up on Tuesday around the National Football League, Cleveland receiver

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Speaker 1: Antonio o'callaway was punished by head coach Hugh Jackson in

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Speaker 1: their game after he was arrested on the traffic spot.

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Speaker 1: Jackson made him play for most of Thursday's preseason game

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Speaker 1: against the Giants. Hugh Jackson said he was trying to

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Speaker 1: make him play the whole game if he could, to

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Speaker 1: punish him for his traffic stop in that game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, mak him play as long as he could.

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson says, that was his uh, that was his goal.

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Speaker 1: And that's the update from Buffalo Bill's training camp on

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Speaker 1: the on One Bill's Life, presented by Kalida Healths. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Buffalo Bills training camp. I'm camera Rip,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown is in for Team Tasker. We're here until

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Speaker 1: three o'clock today. We're joined by NFL reporter for USA Today,

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Rays. Lorenzo, thanks you coming by. We appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Have you got to look at the Buffalo Bills in

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Speaker 1: camp today? What do you think? Give me your overall impressions?

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Speaker 1: You know, the biggest storylines for me, I think we're

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks obviously, and with Tremaine Edmonds, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see how such a young player is going to be

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Speaker 1: counted on to really direct the defense, and obviously there's

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Speaker 1: some coaching changes that have happened. I also wanted to

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Speaker 1: see Brian Davie's offensive close and um, just sort of

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Speaker 1: get the sort of a feel, and it's hard to

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Speaker 1: do that in training camp, but um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think I think there's a lot there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of good pieces here that um really the AFC East.

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Speaker 1: Everyone thinks it's the Patriots, but I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've they've had some issues, so it's really wide open,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think there's some pieces here where

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Speaker 1: the Bills can compete. Brian Dable's offense happens to be

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Speaker 1: kind of the topic of our show today because we're

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it's all about. We had

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Speaker 1: some evidence from Thursday's preseason game, least Thursday against Carolina,

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Speaker 1: but it's hard to figure what he's gonna do with

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Speaker 1: his experience in the NFL. And Chris and I were

1062
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: talking in the last hour about his one year at Alabama.

1063
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: Most of the time coaches who come from the college

1064
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: ranks bring along some of those concepts. I anticipate we'll

1065
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: see some of that with Brian Dable. Yeah, absolutely, And

1066
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: I think obviously it's going to depend on whom is

1067
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. But with that said, I think you're

1068
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: absolutely right, John. I think he's he's not going to

1069
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: be shy about being innovative and implementing different things. And

1070
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: let's not forget Lashaw McCoy is obviously a huge part

1071
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: of this offense, and it's almost like he's flying under

1072
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: the radar and people aren't talk about him because everyone

1073
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: focus on the quarterbacks. But I think that versatility and

1074
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.

1075
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: They were working on screenplays today, for example, I think

1076
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: that's a that's gonna be a big, big party. There's

1077
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: been a ton of swing passes, a ton of screenplays,

1078
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: a ton of backs split out wide. I mean, I

1079
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: think Sean could flirt with maybe his highest catch total

1080
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: in a single season in his career this year if

1081
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: Dabel continues along that road. Question for you though, about

1082
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, we see Josh Allen rotate up. He's going

1083
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: exclusively with the second team offense today. That's a deviation

1084
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: from what we've normally seen, which is Peterman and mccaren

1085
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: flip flopping between the ones and twos every day, Allan

1086
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: getting most of his work with the threes. Today was

1087
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: the first day someone other than Josh Allen took reps

1088
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: with the third string unit, and it was the first

1089
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: time Josh was exclusively with the twos. We're all trying

1090
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: to surmise what that means. Does that mean that Josh

1091
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: will probably be with the twos on Friday in Cleveland?

1092
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: Or is he right back with the threes. I don't

1093
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: know if you want to give your take on it,

1094
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: but what do you think it means? Yeah, that's really interesting.

1095
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is to give him

1096
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: that added responsibility to see how he responds, because if he,

1097
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: let's say hypothetically, they would have given him given him

1098
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: those reps and he really would have struggled, then I

1099
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: think that's that's a bad sign. But the fact that

1100
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: he was in there and he moved the team a

1101
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: little bit, He made some nice back shoulder throws. He

1102
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: did miss a few a few receivers, but granted, I

1103
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: mean he's he's still a rookie who's learning his way,

1104
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: So that's to be expected. I do think that we're

1105
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: at the point in camp where he's he knows the offense.

1106
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: He should at least know most of the offense. It's

1107
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: on him to take those next steps. And if you're

1108
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: not getting those reps with some of the second second stringers,

1109
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: it's hard to really advance because and you know, it's

1110
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: not a shot against third stringers, but the quality of

1111
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: players obviously higher. So I think I think that's very

1112
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: much a clear indication that they they want to see

1113
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: how he responds to UM the higher level competition. And

1114
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's also something that could boost his confidence too,

1115
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: because if you're a first round pick and you're just

1116
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: playing with a third string all the time in practice,

1117
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: it could be tough for a lot of players. You

1118
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: might lose interest here. Absolutely, So I think it's it's

1119
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: there are a couple of factors at play UM. But

1120
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Chris. I think the game against

1121
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: Cleveland coming up that I think is going to be

1122
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: a very very good indication of where he really sits

1123
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: on the depth charge. I want McDermott to start up

1124
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: this Friday, I think I really do, yeah, because let

1125
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: him play one with ones and against ones. Let's see,

1126
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: let's get a real true evaluation of Josh. I'd like

1127
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: to see him start them on from Yeah, not only that,

1128
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: but Cleveland's gonna be bringing their guys too, So it's

1129
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: gonna be if that were to happen, that would be

1130
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: a great test obviously, But um, you know it's it's

1131
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: interesting because Josh he has all of the physical tools

1132
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: you want in a quarterback. It's it's all about the

1133
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: decision making, the accuracy, and um, the decision making. Win.

1134
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: Those live bullets are flying because that's you can you

1135
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: can practice against the same guys all the time, but

1136
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: when you go against opponents, it's it's a completely different game.

1137
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: With Lorenzo Ray's NFL reporter for USA Today, take me

1138
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: back learns to where you were going into the draft. Well,

1139
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: all of that quarterback talent and where did you place

1140
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen among that group? Where you I mean, the

1141
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: Bills made some very aggressive moves to go get him

1142
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: at number seven overall, leaving a couple of guys on

1143
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: the board. What did you think of all that? Yeah,

1144
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: I'll preface this by saying I am an NFL reporter,

1145
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: but I'm not a general manager. Obviously so that much.

1146
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: But I mean on the radio, sure, yeah, that's that's

1147
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: a good part. But um, I mean I think he

1148
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: was he was in that range. I don't we didn't

1149
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: do rankings or anything like that, so I can't. I

1150
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: can't give them. I just I know that I love

1151
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield accuracy. That's one thing that really stands out

1152
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: with him. Um, with Josh, it was just the physical tools.

1153
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is a quarterback that I think he also

1154
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: has some tools, but the throwing motion was something that

1155
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: concerned me. He just had that elongated motion that when

1156
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: you get into the NFL and you have that pass rush.

1157
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: It's hard. But I think he Josh was very much

1158
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: in that top four. Um. I think if I had

1159
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: to pick, oh man, I don't know. I it's hard

1160
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: because I'd almost like to blend a little bit of

1161
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: each one and put them into one path, and it

1162
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: remains difficult. Oh, let's talk a little bit about Baker Mayfield,

1163
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: who by all accounts had a really good day for Cleveland.

1164
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: You were there right the game? How good was he?

1165
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: How good can he be? Do you think? You know?

1166
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting. I was I was there with a

1167
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: colleague of mine, and um, Baker comes in and there

1168
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: was a little bit of juice and everyone's excited to

1169
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: watch it, even in New York. But um, he looked

1170
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: the part. And and I'm one that i'd sort of hesitate.

1171
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: I always kind of think like, oh man, he looked good,

1172
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: like start him. But um he, I will say he

1173
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: at least he showed skills and um traits that I

1174
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: think are going to translate to the NFL long term.

1175
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: The way he sort of felt pressure in the pocket.

1176
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Granted he was a little jittery I think at times,

1177
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: but he felt that pressure sort of um that internal clock,

1178
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: and he was able to get out and when he

1179
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: was out out, you know, scrambling a little bit, he

1180
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: always kept his eyes up, which is huge because receivers

1181
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: break off of their their their coverage, and then he

1182
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: was able to make some nice plays that way. He

1183
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: showed an up mobility. But again, I my friend, my

1184
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: colleague that I was there with me sort of had

1185
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: to tell me like, hey man, it's the first preseason. Yeah,

1186
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: we all have to that's all we have. But I

1187
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: was I wasn't pressed. I think he it was definitely

1188
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: a positive step forward and Tyrod played like Tyrod does

1189
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: right from home. Yeah, he was. He was accurate, he

1190
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: took care of the football, he made smart decisions, wasn't

1191
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: taking risks and um you know read the defense, well

1192
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: it was. It was very much a standard Tyrod performance.

1193
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: One more question. I know Chris asked some questions. Two,

1194
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: why is it that Hugh Jackson is so animate about

1195
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: Tyrods are number one? Ty Rods are number one. It's

1196
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: almost as if they're shutting the door on any chance

1197
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield. I wonder if it's smart. You know.

1198
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: I think with Baker, he's a guy that when you

1199
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: count him out, that's when he really sort of shines.

1200
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: And that's what he had. That's what he had in

1201
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: his college career. Basically he was always the guy behind

1202
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: the starters, and when he was faced with that, he

1203
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: really just motivated him and it took his play to

1204
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: another level. Granted, I think Hugh, in an ideal scenario,

1205
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: wants to keep Tyrode as a starter and maybe let

1206
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: Baker really assimilate and learn the game and the speed

1207
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: of the game. But I don't doubt that there's a

1208
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: little bit of that. He wants to motivate him. Yeah,

1209
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: for sure, because I mean that's really when you look

1210
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: at Baker's career, that's that's what gave him that edge

1211
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: that was so successful, I believe it or not, most

1212
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: of the people in the stands for that game, we're

1213
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: not there for Baker Mayfield or for Tyrode. They were

1214
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: so everything and more. Yeah. So Quan he had that

1215
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: first rush where he gets the ball um and then

1216
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, there's there's a kind of a

1217
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: messive defensive line and no running holes, and he just

1218
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: bounces it outside with one quick cut, makes another cut

1219
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: and he's gone for thirty nine yards. And I was

1220
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking take him out of the game right there,

1221
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: just because that's thanks for coming everybody to see. But um,

1222
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: I will say the offensive the takeaway I had there

1223
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: was that the offensive line still they have a lot

1224
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: of new pieces. It's still a work in progress. So

1225
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: I think if Quon has a huge year, I think

1226
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: a lot of it might have to be him like

1227
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: he did in that run, making something out of nothing,

1228
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: because if the rushing lanes aren't there, Um, you know,

1229
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: it's obviously for any running back, it's hard. But obviously

1230
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: if Eli and and O'Dell and and everyone. If that

1231
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: if the passing game opens up, that that can open

1232
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: up the rushing game. But I mean, based off of

1233
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: what we've seen in pre draft and then throughout camp

1234
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: and everything, I think, say Quan is very very curious

1235
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: to see what opposing defenses do against that Giant's attack,

1236
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: because you know you have a capable tight end receiving

1237
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: option there you have Beckham. So are you are you

1238
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna put it in the box to stop Barkley you know?

1239
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: Or do you think you're a lie and can hold

1240
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: up against an offensive line that's still feeling its way

1241
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Or are they you know, gonna take

1242
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: you and take their chances and play single safety high

1243
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham outside. I mean, I don't know if

1244
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, so it's a it's a pick your

1245
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: poison or if it's gonna be really interesting to see

1246
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: how teams defend the Giant. Look, I think the Giants

1247
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: are going to be better than most people there, I

1248
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: really do. I think they'll contend for the division. Crazy.

1249
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: I actually put them in the playoffs in the wild card, Yeah,

1250
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: there you go. But I also put them in the

1251
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl lest year, So well, okay, hey, we all

1252
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: have our hits and missus Lorenzo Ray's NFL reporter USA

1253
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: today joining us. We're gonna get to your twenty things

1254
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: we learned from week one of a preseason. But I

1255
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: wanted one more Browns question I have and you tweeted

1256
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: something about it today. Des Bryant, is he going to

1257
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: visit them this week? And is there anything to be

1258
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: made out of that? Yeah, that's an interesting situation there.

1259
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: I think there's definitely mutual interest between both both sides.

1260
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like Does needs some time, needed some time,

1261
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: and he's working toward getting his mind right and he's

1262
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: a protein the position where he wants to play now. Um,

1263
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: I think for him it's gonna be finding the right

1264
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: fit and with with again. John Dorsey, the Browns general manager,

1265
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: has been very clear that they're interested. And Dez I

1266
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: think was actually waiting for those two Browns quarterbacks to

1267
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: see what they could do. He was actually live tweeting

1268
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: that game. He was dead. Yeah, he was. After after

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Speaker 1: Baker's first driver, I think after his first touchdown pass,

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Speaker 1: Daz tweeted something like, Okay, Baker, I see you. So

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Speaker 1: I think I think that was very much a good Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that was very much a good showing for

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Speaker 1: the Browns, and now it may push that interest further. UM.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about your post that you

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Speaker 1: wrote for USA Today twenty things we learned from the

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Speaker 1: first week of preseason. One of the things, one of

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Speaker 1: the interesting things, and we'll go through this all preseason,

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Speaker 1: are the rookie quarterbacks. You've talked about our guy Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: You talked about Baker Mayfield, a little bit about Sam Donald.

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01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: What about Josh Rosen seemed to be like glowing reports

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01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: coming out of Arizona. Well, here's the thing with Rosen. Statistically,

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: you look at it. It wasn't a great day, but

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: he was playing um with that second string offensive line

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: and they were just getting mauled. And the thing is,

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: when you're a rookie quarterback and that's your first experience

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: against another opponent, I was really I was really more

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: impressed with how he responded and the things he was

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01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: doing to neutralize that pressure. He was doing a lot

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01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: of quick release passes and he was basically getting hit

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01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: and making throws, which, as we know, when when you

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: don't have great protection, that's a necessity. And I think

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01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: if he eventually becomes a starter, that protection will improve.

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01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: But he showed great anticipation, great pocket awareness. I think

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: people considered him to be the most pro ready quarterback

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01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: but of the of the rookie class. But um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I came away impressed. I think, like

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: you said with with Um, with Josh Allan putting him

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: in with the ones, I think they might have to

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01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: do the same with Rosen because it's just hard to

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: really evaluate a player when he's always running for his life.

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: We're talking about Baker Mayfield not getting much of a

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01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: chance with the Cleveland Browns. But back to Sam Donald,

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01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: it seems like the door is wide open for Donald

1304
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: and the Jets, right they're inviting him win this job

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01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: start this week. Yeah yeah, I mean, I think of

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01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: all the rookie first round quarterbacks, if if I had

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: to pick one to start Week one, it would have

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: to be him. Um. It would be a very jetsy

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01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: and thing to do, too. What are you trying to

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: say it would be a mistake. He might be the best.

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: He might be the best. He might be wanted to

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01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: beat out Josh McCown. Really yeah, I mean, but he

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01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: played well for them last year, you know when he

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: was in there, and I guess Bridgewater played pretty well too. Yeah,

1315
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: they have a good situation too. I mean trade Bridgewater,

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01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: that's the talk now, right, like ye had a trade

1317
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: partner and move him. I mean, I think that Jessin

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: and an ideal scenario don't take three quarterbacks to their

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01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: their fifty three. But um, I mean I'm of the

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01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: opinion that if I draft, if I draft a rookie

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01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: quarterback that early, I would really want him to sort

1322
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: of just sit for a little bit and sort of, um,

1323
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, learn the game as much as you can. Granted,

1324
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: every team is different and actually players just respond to

1325
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: that stuff differently too. But with Darnold, um, I mean

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01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: he looked good, There's no doubt about it. But the

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01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: question I have with him is are there enough offensive

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01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: weapons around there where he can really sort of just

1329
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: be the point guard and distribute. Yeah, I mean he's

1330
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: he was efficient. I don't think there's any debating that.

1331
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, thirteen eighteen passing, Yeah, thirteen completions murph for

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: ninety six yards. I mean he was dinking and dunking everywhere.

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01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: That's what he was doing. And that's fine if that's

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: what the defense is going to give you. But you know,

1335
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: and granted we're going on one preseason game here, but

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't like, holy cow, they're ding, you know what

1337
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was just kind of like, okay,

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: they did all right, and now they're vaulting him to

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01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: number one. It's like, oh, oh, all right. You know,

1340
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like it's premature. I don't know. Yeah,

1341
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of it being the Jets

1342
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: being the Jets, right, so hungry for a franchise, the

1343
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: Jets being the Jets. So Lorenzo rays Usa today, you

1344
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: said time, you spent a lot of time around the

1345
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: AFC East, and I feel like in Buffalo, people to

1346
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: follow the bills, we're all like hostages, you know, with

1347
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome. We can't imagine the Patriots not winning the division,

1348
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's we've grown up that way.

1349
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: But you said something a minute ago about a vulnerability there.

1350
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: What do you see there in New England? What are

1351
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: you thinking? Yeah, I mean they always seem to figure

1352
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: it out, there's no doubt. But I think this is

1353
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: sort of I mean, I think we're very much seeing

1354
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: the down you know, the decline, not decline, that's too

1355
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: strong a word, but you know, the beginning of the

1356
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: end or sort of the window closing a little bit

1357
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: because they've peaked. I mean, it's it's hard to say

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01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: that they haven't. They've just been so successful, so dominant.

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: But I think that tension between Tom Brady and some

1360
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: of the coaches there, and Rob Gronkowski also had his issues,

1361
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: and um, I just I feel like we're starting to

1362
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: see some of the the power struggle or the power

1363
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: structure might shift a little bit. Um With that said,

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Speaker 1: I still I picked the Patriots to win the division.

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: I still think they're going to go to the playoffs

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: and probably make a nice little run. But they're chinks

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01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: in the armor, that's what we're saying. Yeah, I think

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: I think if there's if there's a mother take it,

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: if there's a if there's a moment to go at them,

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: I think I think we're starting to see that window

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: opening up a little bit. It's a one more issue

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about, and you wrote it

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: in your piece about twenty things we learned, and that's uh,

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: the new rule lot in the helmet hits initiating contract

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01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: lowering the head to initiate contact. And look, I know

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: they've been and now I think people are kind of overreacting.

1377
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: There's been some controversial close calls that have been called

1378
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: that way. But I do believe this in the interest

1379
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: of safety. I think this is important this preseason and

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01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: this rule is important. They want to change behavior, and

1381
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: to do that you call penal. Yeah, it happened a

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when they forced players to lower

1383
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: their aiming point. I think we're kind of undergoing that

1384
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: right now with the helmet. It's and I think it's

1385
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: going to work. Eventually, we might see some questionablet calls

1386
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: to get there, though, Yeah, I agree. I mean, I

1387
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: think it's very much necessity that has to happen, um,

1388
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: just based on the speed and the sheer, you know,

1389
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: violence of the game. It has to happen. But with

1390
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: that set, I also agree that. I think my understanding

1391
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: is that the referees were sort of told, if you

1392
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: have a play that you think is sort of in

1393
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: that gray area, throw the flag and then we'll get

1394
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: as much film as we can on plays that were close,

1395
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: and we'll evaluate it. We'll reevaluate it before the start

1396
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: of the regular season. So I think. I think that's

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: going to very much be a part of it. It's just,

1398
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys watch the games. It's so hard,

1399
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: so fast, it's it's it's such a challenge to make

1400
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: those judgment calls that quickly. Um, So I think they're

1401
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: going to be My point in the article is more

1402
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: about saying that I think the rule, whether people love

1403
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: it or hate it, I think it's going to be

1404
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: a factor in fourth quarter comebacks and the two minute

1405
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: drill when there are big plays being made and the

1406
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: referee has to make a decision. Is that a penalty

1407
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: and they'll throw the flag or not, somebody ejected and

1408
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: not even in that game anymore. Absolutely, you know, you

1409
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: take a middle linebacker out of a starting defense and

1410
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: there's a two minute drill going on that they're trying

1411
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: to keep the other team out of the end zone.

1412
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: You throw that guy out of the game. I mean,

1413
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: people are gonna be rioting, absolutely, but they won't, I guess,

1414
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: is my point. You don't think so? No. I think

1415
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: they're calling it tight now in preseason. So do you

1416
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: think they'll relax it a little bit? I do, and

1417
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I think they'll Mostly it's about education educating players don't

1418
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: lower your head to it. And you think they're calling

1419
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: it more stringently on purpose now, yes, and they'll back off.

1420
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: Is that what you just said? Yeah, I mean I

1421
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: think that's sort of the way they wanted to handle this,

1422
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: at least the initial phase, because I think I think

1423
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: it's still so new because number one, if you're if

1424
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: you're a defender, and it's I guess it goes for

1425
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: offensive players too now, but if you're a defender and

1426
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: you have to make a tackle, your instinct is just

1427
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: to lunge forward and launch that way. So I think

1428
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: it's almost like you're trying to break some muscle memory there,

1429
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: which is a lot easier said than done. So that's

1430
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: why I think they're going to be some growing pains

1431
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: for sure. I think they're going to be some some

1432
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: some players that are going to make a few fan

1433
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: bases quite up. Said one more and this is the

1434
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,879
Speaker 1: other major one of the other major rule changes kickoffs.

1435
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: I didn't watch every preseason game last weekend, but we

1436
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: didn't see much there so a lot of touchbacks. Again,

1437
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: I was hoping we get some return work with that

1438
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: separation now between the return man and the coverage team. Yeah,

1439
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,919
Speaker 1: I think it's. My sense is that the really talented

1440
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: kickers who are accurate and um can really pinpoint the

1441
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: ball where they wanted to go. I think those are

1442
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: going to be the teams that are more aggressive in

1443
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: trying to pop those balls up and creating chances for

1444
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: the players to rush down there. But yeah, I wonder

1445
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: whether the big play kickoff return is sort of being

1446
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: phased out. I mean I think that, Yeah, it's I

1447
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: get the feeling it is. It's gonna It's just it's

1448
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: the single blocking RF that's the problem. Now. You gotta

1449
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: have guys dropping back, turning and then finding a guy

1450
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: and blocking him in open field with nobody next to

1451
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: him to help or anything. It's one on one blocking,

1452
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: and I just think it's gonna be tough to create

1453
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: the holes they need or the creases they need to

1454
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: get a return man off and run it. And they've

1455
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean they've done plenty of The NFL has done

1456
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: plenty of studies where they've just looked at UM concussion

1457
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: rates in the kickoff versus other plays, and kickoffs are

1458
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: just far and away the Yeah, they're just very very um.

1459
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of collisions going on

1460
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: or are you gonna write something based on your visit

1461
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: to Bills camp. I'll be running a few things, definitely

1462
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks, um on news. On the quarterback you

1463
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: can tell us because we don't get anything out of there.

1464
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: I tread my best. Know they're good, right, they don't

1465
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: give up anything. The one thing I will say is

1466
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: that I in talking to a few of the people here,

1467
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: I would I would guess that they're gonna They're gonna

1468
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: take their time with us. I think even the third

1469
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: preseason game they won't announce the starter Before that. I

1470
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: think the third preseason game might be the time where

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: after that film is in the books and they go,

1472
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: they go and evaluate that Dad, I think is going

1473
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 1: to be the point when they decide um. But yeah,

1474
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: I tried to get a name, but we all Thanks Lorenzo,

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: it was great to meet you. Thank you. Lorenzos, NFL

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Speaker 1: reporter for USA Today. Joining it here, Joining us here

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Speaker 1: at Bills Camp. It's one Bills Live from Bills Training

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Speaker 1: Camp on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Bill's training camp. John Murphy, Chris Brown, Bills Inside or

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com. Steve Kasker off until Wednesday. We've

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Speaker 1: got two and a half more shows left here at

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Speaker 1: Bill's trainy camp. It goes my fast, Chris, I know

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Speaker 1: you we talked about at the top of the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it drags a little bit, you drive back and forth,

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Speaker 1: But man, I like being out here. I like the

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Speaker 1: different setting. I like being around the fans. What's the

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Speaker 1: preseason schedule starts? It kind of moves quicker. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And because you're here and then you're back in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: or you're traveling, and moves a little faster. Y, don't

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Speaker 1: you get to the preseason game? Um? What did you

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Speaker 1: post on the website? Oh, the a J. McCarn story

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Speaker 1: the other day day they read about his relationship. Just

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Speaker 1: tell us, tell us set story, and I want to

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Speaker 1: direct people to read it because you can't tell the

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Speaker 1: whole story. But tell us what your story was about.

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Speaker 1: It went up a Saturday Sunday. I think, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just about a special relationship between aj and uh, a

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Speaker 1: fellow student at the time at the University of Alabama

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Speaker 1: whose name was also Ajum. Just their paths crossed, probably

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Speaker 1: by divine intervention, and at least they kind of feel

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Speaker 1: that way. But AJ Starr was a freshman at Alabama.

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Speaker 1: The first week of school wasn't going very well. He

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Speaker 1: has cerebral paulsy, so you know, his physical condition is

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Speaker 1: readily apparent to anybody who passes him, and he found

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Speaker 1: making friends difficult. You know, he was business management major

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Speaker 1: and his first week of school was going really bad.

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Speaker 1: He just got dropped off by a campus bus at

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Speaker 1: a bus stop, was confused as to what transfer bus

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Speaker 1: to take. So he's standing there in the rain. He

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Speaker 1: looks completely lost and confused, and Aj mccaren happened to

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Speaker 1: be pulling up in his car and just saw him,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, this kid needs a hand. So he

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Speaker 1: just kind of pulled up and asked him if he

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Speaker 1: needed a ride. So imagine this freshman student who has

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Speaker 1: been at school all of a week. The window rolls

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Speaker 1: down and as the quarterback of the Alabama football team

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Speaker 1: asked him if he needs to ride, So he hopped

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Speaker 1: in the car, and their friendship kind of grew from there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, mccaren kind of saw that he you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a kid that needed something, needed to be a

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Speaker 1: part of something, and he loved the football team. So

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Speaker 1: long story short, he got him a gig working as

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Speaker 1: an assistant equipment manager for the football team. No pay,

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Speaker 1: he said, I didn't want any pay. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to be part of something. And even now, you know,

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Speaker 1: the story we wrote on Buffalo bills dot Com is

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Speaker 1: how their friendship and relationship still exists today. He was here.

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Speaker 1: AJ Starr was at the preseason game last Thursday against Carolina. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him on the phone. He was joking.

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Speaker 1: He goes, I gotta get some Bills swag. He goes,

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Speaker 1: I got a room full of Bengals gear that I

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Speaker 1: gotta move. He's got a good sense of humor, and

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Speaker 1: he was a sports management He's got his degree in

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Speaker 1: sports management. But he was a groomsman in AJ's wedding.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's nice to see the relationship

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Speaker 1: go beyond the college years. They're still pretty tight. That

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Speaker 1: stories up on our website, Buffalo bills dot Com. Look

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Speaker 1: for that What do you got to in the Hopper?

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the website set three things to Know

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Speaker 1: from Today? I did in turned Mitchell put that one

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Speaker 1: together since I'm helping you out here. But Zay Jones

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01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: was obvious a focus Today Star Latulae back on the

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Speaker 1: field from his back injury that forced him to miss

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Speaker 1: Friday and Sunday's practice, but he suffered in the game

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Speaker 1: and obviously the latest on the quarterbacks because the rotation

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Speaker 1: did change out here today speaking of Lotulae out when

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Speaker 1: I was here yesterday, and you have to notice him

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Speaker 1: because he makes places. Harrison Phillips got a lot of

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Speaker 1: good first team reps with Latula out for a couple

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Speaker 1: of days. I really think he's he's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: first guy in that rotation. We know how Leslie Frasier

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Speaker 1: likes to roll guys up front all throughout the game.

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips is gonna be the first defensive tackle off

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Speaker 1: the bench. I think that's a given. Already. He has

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Speaker 1: been a difference maker, and I think coming in the door,

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Speaker 1: I believe Leslie Frasier and even coach McDermott to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent, saw him as Latulae's back up, a guy

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Speaker 1: that was gonna occupy two blockers, you know, stuff a hole,

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Speaker 1: maybe get a little push, because that's what he did

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Speaker 1: at Stanford. He was playing in this read and react

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Speaker 1: defense where he was just instructed to stand in there

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Speaker 1: and grind and let linebackers, keep linebackers free and clean,

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Speaker 1: let them go run and make plays. But then you

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Speaker 1: saw the first week of one on ones here in

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Speaker 1: training camp, and you're like, he can do a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than stand in there and grind. He's got

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Speaker 1: heavy hands, and you know, he's got a really good

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Speaker 1: hand technique, and he gets offensive lineman off him quickly

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Speaker 1: and he wins those one on one battle. So I

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Speaker 1: think they were pleasantly surprised to see that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to offer them some pass rush ability also

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Speaker 1: from the middle of that defensive front, and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: help them because you know, Star, I think is what

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Speaker 1: he is. That's not to say he's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the field on third down, but I think more

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Speaker 1: often than not he won't be. You can use Harrison

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Speaker 1: Phillips on third down and he's not just going to

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Speaker 1: be a push the pocket guy. He may get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback himself. So I think there's some versatility there,

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Speaker 1: and evidence of that came in coach McDermott's decision to

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Speaker 1: not only have him back up Star, but backup Kyle Also.

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Speaker 1: He's playing the one end the three technique and learning

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Speaker 1: both positions, and I think that's an indication of the

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Speaker 1: versatility that they discovered in him through the first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks of campin Phillips ninety ninety. He's an exciting

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Speaker 1: young player to watch. All right, we're just talking about

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Speaker 1: with our guests. A minute ago, we were too Rarenzo

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Speaker 1: talking about the Giants and Saquon Barkley. Word from the

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Speaker 1: Giants camp. Saquon Barkley departed practice early today with an

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Speaker 1: apparent left leg injury. Giants coach pet Shermer says, think

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Speaker 1: he's all right, we'll find out. He reportedly had his

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Speaker 1: leg briefly wrapped an ice shortly after catching a pass

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Speaker 1: off a wheel route from Kyle Loletta, shed the ice

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Speaker 1: and walked off the practice field with teammates. But a

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Speaker 1: leg injury for sae Quon Barkley, that'll get your attention

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, that'll go over like a lead balloon, ye,

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Speaker 1: because you already saw what happened in Washington this past week.

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Speaker 1: Darius guys gets an injury. They're saying, Oh, it's it's

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Speaker 1: an MCL. At worst, he's out four weeks, may miss

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Speaker 1: the opener. Then they do further examination. She's gotta torn

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Speaker 1: acl He's out for the year. And he was gonna

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Speaker 1: he was in line to be their starting running back,

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Speaker 1: the LSU product. So and I really liked him coming out.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be a productive player in

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Speaker 1: this league. But he's done for the year already. You really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just from a selfish standpoint, I want to see, say,

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Speaker 1: Quon Barkley play. I want to see him play this year,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want him on the field. He's entertaining.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just a full He's just a full, complete player.

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Speaker 1: He's just really exciting to watch. And this appears to

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Speaker 1: be new And this comes from Twitter from Downtown Rams.

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Speaker 1: Rams and Aaron Donald expected to come to an agreement

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Speaker 1: on a massive deal that would pay Donald twenty four

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Speaker 1: million dollars per year. We guarantees in the sixty five

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Speaker 1: to seventy million dollars range. That deal expected later this week.

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Speaker 1: It's about time, right, It's about time. Yeah, they really

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Speaker 1: dragged their feet on that one. They signed some other

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Speaker 1: guys to long extensions before him, and I mean he

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Speaker 1: would have been at the top of the list. He

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Speaker 1: almost makes me wonder if they signed some of these

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Speaker 1: other perceived lesser players to long term deals to kind

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Speaker 1: of gobble up a certain amount of the cap. So

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Speaker 1: then when they go to Aaron Donald, they say, look,

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Speaker 1: this is all we got to work with. You know,

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Speaker 1: we can't really move much off of this. And I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of curious as to how that deal is going

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Speaker 1: to be structured because they didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: cap room left to work with for this calendar year.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it'll open up next year because in Dominican sue,

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Speaker 1: you know, is going to come off the books. His

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Speaker 1: one year fourteen million deal is fourteen million dollars deal

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Speaker 1: is gone, so that'd open up some money. So I

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Speaker 1: expect a lot of his money to be coming in

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Speaker 1: year two, especially some of that guaranteed money. We're here

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Speaker 1: at Bill Scamp Chris Brown and I seem tasker off today.

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Speaker 1: We've got head coach Sean McDermot joining us at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour two o'clock. We want to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit more though about Thursday's game, the five

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Speaker 1: point loss to the Carolina Panthers and the way the

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Speaker 1: Bills played offense that day. Our Twitter poll today, what

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Speaker 1: did you like the most about Brian Dabo's offense against

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Speaker 1: the Panthers on Twitter to date, with more than eleven

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Speaker 1: hundred votes in so far, forty percent of you say

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Speaker 1: you like the multiple formations the bills showed, thirty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of you say you like the way they threw

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Speaker 1: the ball over the middle, seventeen percent of you say

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Speaker 1: you like the pace of the offense, five percent have

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Speaker 1: something else in mind. Let's talk about it. I told

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Speaker 1: you I liked the multiple formations and how effortless it

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01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: was to get those personnel changes in, and they did

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01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: a good job of it. I thought, but maybe you

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01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: got something else. Give us a call. The phone lines

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Speaker 1: open the eight oh three zero five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: You asked that question, and I feel like we're close

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Speaker 1: to saying it's all fixed, everything settled. The offense is great. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not what we're saying. We have one bit of evidence,

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Speaker 1: one preseason game to look at, and it went pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three points on the board and touchdowns by each unit,

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Speaker 1: first team, second team, third team, especially the first team,

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Speaker 1: though the way they ran plays. Nathan Peterman gets a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit for this. The pace at which they

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Speaker 1: ran the plays and the different personnel combinations very impressive

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Speaker 1: to me. All their problems are not solved, but I

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Speaker 1: do think that it was a good first dounting for

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo offense. And I would say the variety is

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Speaker 1: what got me excited too. But as a secondary, you know,

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Speaker 1: offshoot of that, the way they worked the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field. Then we've seen it all through the training

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Speaker 1: camp practices and even back in the spring during OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Just the willingness to go to the middle of the

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Speaker 1: field between the numbers and exploit holes in zone defense

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Speaker 1: coverages and the like is very encouraging to me because

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Speaker 1: what it means is you're actually going to get value

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Speaker 1: out of your slot receiver, and you're going to maximize

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Speaker 1: the value of Charles Clay as I see it, a

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Speaker 1: guy who somehow, some way managed to get three fifty

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Speaker 1: catch seasons in a row here despite one of the

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Speaker 1: worst passing offenses in the league. So now knowing that

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field is going to open up

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Speaker 1: based on the play calling and the willingness of the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks you have here, I mean, I think Charles Clay

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Speaker 1: could flirt with sixty five receptions this season, especially knowing

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Speaker 1: that beyond Kelvin Benjamin and Jeremy Curley, the options seem

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01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: to be somewhat limited at the receiver position. Yeah, there's

1686
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: ma interesteam things going on at the tight end, Chris,

1687
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that. Brian Dable talk

1688
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: about it today. The Bills offensive coordinator did a news

1689
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: conference this morning before practice began eight fifteen this morning,

1690
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 1: and he was asked about the tight end group. Obviously

1691
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: Clay at the top of the list, some other interesting

1692
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: candidates behind him. Here's what Brian Dable said about his

1693
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: tight end group so far in built training camp. Yeah,

1694
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: tight end is one of those positions that is a

1695
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: tough position, you know, having coached it. There's a lot

1696
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: of things that go along with playing tight end, both

1697
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: in a run game the pass game, both in routes

1698
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: and protections. You know, those guys have to understand all

1699
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: of it. You know, Rob does a good job with

1700
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: those guys. It never seems like there's enough meeting time

1701
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: for a tight end because you're fulled half time with

1702
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: the line, you're fulled half time with the skill guys.

1703
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: But we expect those guys to be able to do everything. Now,

1704
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: some might have other strengths and some might have other weaknesses.

1705
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can just put a guy

1706
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: in and do one thing with him and tip your hand.

1707
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I think it's their job to make sure that they

1708
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: keep improving in all areas. I thought it was really

1709
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: interesting comments from Dabele and some really interesting developments at

1710
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: the tight end spot. Look Charles Clay, I think he's

1711
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 1: a virtual lock to be number one. But behind him,

1712
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, Nicoleary is back, has had a couple of

1713
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: productive years. Logan Thomas looks better than ever to me.

1714
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: He looks like he is ready to take off. Jason

1715
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: Krum I think has opened a lot of my second

1716
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: year player undrafted for age and a year ago out

1717
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Kyrie Lee had a good moment the last

1718
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,440
Speaker 1: Thursday night, but especially when it comes to Jason Krum

1719
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: and maybe to a lesser extent, Logan Thomas. I'm excited

1720
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: what I see there, and I do think there's a

1721
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: battle developing for roster spot at tight end. Yeah, I mean,

1722
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: I think you can safely say that Jason Krum is

1723
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: the most athletic player in the position group and it's

1724
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: not even close. Logan Thomas is a mitch match because

1725
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: of his height, but Jason Krum is a mismatch because

1726
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: of his athleticism. And Krum is only an inch shorter

1727
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: than Thomas. Krum goes six to five, Thomas goes six six.

1728
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: You know, Thomas is a little bit thicker, you know,

1729
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: at two fifty, but not by much. But Kroom carries

1730
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: his weight a receiver, yes, a former receiver that he is, right,

1731
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: he is a converted receiver. So I just think he

1732
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: affords you more options from a route running standpoint from

1733
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: the tight end position. That's not to say the other

1734
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: tight ends can't do that stuff, but I think he's

1735
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: clearly the best route runner because he can cover ground

1736
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: faster than anybody else from a blocking standpoint, though he's

1737
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: still a work in progress, Yes he is. And don't

1738
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: let me just say. And I watched this. I wrote

1739
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: about a little bit yesterday in the website. After practice yesterday,

1740
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I watched tight ends coach Rob Boris pulled Jason Kreum aside,

1741
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: and all they did was work on blocking. And it

1742
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: was past protecting. He's a worker who was credit. Oh yeah,

1743
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: he stayed. It was twenty five thirty minutes after practice

1744
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: worked on like set up feet, set up for past

1745
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: protection blocks. It was pretty impressive and Krum told me

1746
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: I had not noticed this. Krum told me he and

1747
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 1: Boris work after practice virtually every day. Well, he wants

1748
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: to get it. I mean, I think he knows. I

1749
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: think he thought, coming in as an underre to player

1750
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: last year a rookie, that with this tight end roster,

1751
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: he was going to sail in and kill it and

1752
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: make the roster as an undrafted rookie. And he didn't.

1753
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: He got stationed on the practice squad, and I think

1754
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: it was a bit of an awakening for him where

1755
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: he thought he was going to do better than that.

1756
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: But to his credit, you know, he just redoubled his

1757
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: efforts and you see the difference in his game. Now.

1758
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: He's getting better separation on his routes. He's blocking is

1759
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: blocking is improved. I still don't think it's where they

1760
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: want it yet to feel comfortable putting him out there

1761
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: in some kind of heavy blocking role. But he is

1762
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: improving in that area and I think he's got a

1763
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: legitimate shot at a spot on the fifty three man roster.

1764
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: The question you ask is, you know, when you get

1765
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: down to nitty gritty time, and you got to get

1766
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: down to your fifty three. You know, you have that

1767
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: very fluid situation between offensive positions like running back, tight end,

1768
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: and wide receiver. Are you keeping six wide receivers? Are

1769
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: you keeping four tight ends? Are you keeping five running

1770
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: backs counting the fullback to Marco? You know, these are

1771
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: all of the tipping point kind of decisions that could

1772
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: ultimately determine whether a guy like Jason Kroom is on

1773
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: the roster or is not on the roster. And I

1774
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: think Brian dables plans with the offense are going to

1775
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: impact that also. Are there a lot of twelve personnel

1776
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: sets that you want to use from week to week

1777
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: or not? Or are you happy that DeMarco can fill

1778
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: that role in a blocking capacity. I actually asked the

1779
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: question for the SoundBite we used today. My aim was

1780
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: to try to get a feel from him as to

1781
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: how he's planning to avoid being predictable as an offense

1782
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: based on which one of these tight ends he puts

1783
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: on the field, Because, as we mentioned, Kroom great in

1784
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: the receiving game, as is Thomas as a mismatch. Kroom

1785
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: not so great as a blocker just yet, so when

1786
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: he steps on the field what's the defense thinking it's

1787
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: a pass? How do you combat that and work against that?

1788
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Knowing what that tight end strengths are going to be

1789
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: readily apparent to the opponent. So it's a balancing act

1790
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: really for an offensive coordinator to not only deploy these

1791
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: guys in such a way that is unpredictable, but to

1792
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: also school them up on the other facets of their

1793
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,839
Speaker 1: game that they're not strong enough at, so they're eventually

1794
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: good at everything, which makes them unpredictable just by the

1795
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: virtue of the fact that they're stepping on the field.

1796
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: And we can't really talk about tight ends blocking without

1797
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: mentioning logan Thomas block. Did you see the video of

1798
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: his from the games? Yeah? From the game Their say

1799
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: he obliterated and it was kind of you know, it

1800
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: was a great block. The guy was a little bit

1801
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: off balanced, but he decleted him. He took him right

1802
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: off to his shoes. It was pretty cool to watch,

1803
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: and he made a couple of good plays on that drive.

1804
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: Because he made that play, he also released late in

1805
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: the play to act as a safety checkdown valve for

1806
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback mccaren hit him for. It was a short

1807
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: three or four game, but it was better than getting sacked. Yeah,

1808
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, plus three You'll take over a minus seven

1809
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: any day of the week. And then he had the

1810
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: block on the touchdown run by Murphy to finish all drive.

1811
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: Big block. You know. Kelson and I were talking about

1812
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: it during the broadcast last Thursday, how Logan Thomas has

1813
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: reached the point where you watch him play now and

1814
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, he's a converted quarterback now, it's

1815
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: like he's a real kite end. He's there. I think

1816
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: he's filled out nicely too. He's worked on his lean

1817
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 1: muscle mass to make him stronger at the line. So yeah,

1818
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: he's done a nice job. I gotta give it to him.

1819
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: You'll wonder if Nico Leary is getting pressed for his

1820
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: roster spot because I think niko' leary is good at

1821
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: just about everything, but I don't know that he's great

1822
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: at any one thing, if that makes any sense, And

1823
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: I think there are things that hurt him. He's got

1824
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: fantastic hands. If the ball hits him in the hands,

1825
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: he's catching the ball, but his catch radius is not

1826
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: the same as Logan Thomas. It's not the same as

1827
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Jason Crum. You've got to be within his arm length

1828
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 1: if he's going to make the play for you, because

1829
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: he's not a real bendy kind of athlete, you know,

1830
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: you got to put it on the money and he'll

1831
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: make a play for you. If it's a little out

1832
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: of his catch radius, which isn't big to begin with,

1833
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: it's tough for him to make a play for you. Hey,

1834
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: let's hear from you. We got phones wide open. What

1835
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 1: did you like about the Buffalo offense? About Brian Dabo's

1836
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: offense last Thursday night? And what do you hope to see?

1837
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: Lines open eight to three h five fifty and toll

1838
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1839
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: It's one Bills Live presented by Collided Health from Bill's

1840
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show,

1841
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Chris Brown, Chris is didn't four skin Casker

1842
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: who returns to us Wednesday. Here at training camp talking

1843
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: about Bills practice today. Eight forty five. It was a

1844
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 1: long practice today, Chris is about two hours in fifteen

1845
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. The longer ones for sure. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't.

1846
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: Yesterday was really physical. I was here yesterday. There were

1847
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: scraps Jordan Mills got into it with a couple of guys,

1848
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 1: including Jerry Hughes. There was a live tackling goal line

1849
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: session yesterday at the end of practice that was very interesting.

1850
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: No injuries from yesterday's practice, but it was an interesting, intense,

1851
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: high energy physical practice yesterday. Today I thought was a

1852
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: little bit more finesse. Right, I mean, there was two

1853
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: minute drill work at the end. Right. It was good

1854
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: practice today, but I like yesterday's better. Well, you're entitled

1855
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: to your opinion, and that's fine. Yeah, I mean I

1856
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: wasn't here yesterday. You were, so you you have the

1857
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 1: benefit of looking at both of them. I liked them

1858
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: the receiver play today. I thought they went up and

1859
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: made some plays today, especially outside of their body frames.

1860
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: A Jones comes to mind. Robert Foster made a couple

1861
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: of plays again today. It was good to see Cam

1862
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: Phillips back from his injury that forced him to miss

1863
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 1: the first preseason game. So hopefully he'll be good to

1864
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: go for the Cleveland game because he's shown some nice

1865
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: things in the early stages of camp. Who else, Oh

1866
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: and Jason Crue made a couple of players today again.

1867
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: We were just talking about Jason crue and I made

1868
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,759
Speaker 1: a note of a play a j McCarron deep pass.

1869
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: He threw it up high and uh oh, I'm sorry.

1870
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 1: First he hit Za Jones up high with a good

1871
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: catch by Za Jones. Two plays later, deep passed down

1872
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: the sideline to Jason Crum the tight and we're just

1873
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: talking about great throw by mccaren but even better catch.

1874
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: And there was good coverage by Lorenzo Alexander. He was

1875
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: right on his hip, but the pass was high and

1876
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Creum was so athletic. Key run up and I think

1877
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: it was right in front of you. I saw where

1878
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: you were watching. Yeah, he was right there. And you

1879
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: know that's the advantage of being six to five. With

1880
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: good leaping ability, you're gonna win. It was good. It

1881
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: was a good practice to watch today. All right, we

1882
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. What did you like Thursday

1883
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: in the preseason game from the Buffalo offense? Corey on

1884
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: a cell phone, Go ahead, Corey, welcome, you're on the

1885
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: air with us. Hey, thanks gentlemen for having me on.

1886
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't the multiple formations. I like the fact that

1887
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: we had that plug and play kind of offense where

1888
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: we didn't need to have the Shawn McCoy out there

1889
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: to have the defense on their heels to move that ball.

1890
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: We kind of took a part out of the Patriots

1891
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: mind frame, where anybody can move the ball, anybody can

1892
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: be part of the team and be effective. Opens up

1893
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: so many more opportunities for us. Yeah, you know it's

1894
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 1: likely to happen, Corey, And it struck me a little

1895
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: bit Thursday night, and now to hear you talk about it,

1896
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of this thought I had Thursday. And that's

1897
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots thing. They find roles for more than eleven

1898
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: guys on off and you can see that a little

1899
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: bit in lass Thursday's game, Roles for backup tight ends

1900
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: to play, roles for the fullback to fill. They find

1901
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: roles for people, and I think you could say that

1902
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: based on Thursday night, we saw a lot of that

1903
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: from the day ball off. And that's part of the

1904
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: reason why I asked Brian Dable today about that tight

1905
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: end position group, because they all have differing strengths. I

1906
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 1: think we can all agree on that, and I'm just

1907
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: curious how he's a going to deploy them to not

1908
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: be predictable and be what he feels the strengths of

1909
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: some of those guys are now obviously he's not going

1910
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: to give up the store on that, but I think

1911
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: we got a good answer. He wants to make them

1912
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: good at everything, to make them unpredictable, but at the

1913
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: same time take advantage of some of the strengths that

1914
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: these guys do have. Croom's strength is obviously in the

1915
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: passing game. We already mentioned logan Thomas as a physical mismatch,

1916
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: but he's proving to be more than that. He's proving

1917
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: to be a capable blocker, and I think he's a

1918
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: guy that can help them in a myriad of ways

1919
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: no matter what down it is. I don't know that

1920
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be a game breaker, but I think

1921
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: he's going to be more than serviceable for them in

1922
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of roles. And I worry a little bit

1923
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 1: about nicole Leary's tenure on this roster because if Thomas

1924
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: keeps coming along like he has, he's doing everything that

1925
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: nicole Leary's doing, and he's bigger, longer, and more of

1926
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: a mismatch, you know. And then you've got guys like

1927
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 1: kry Lee, probably one of the best blockers in the group,

1928
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 1: but made a nice athletic play when Josh Allen threw

1929
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 1: off his back foot and hit him down the sideline

1930
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: on a ball in tight coverage and he held on

1931
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: and made a twenty six yard pass play. So there

1932
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: are guys that are in that position group that there's

1933
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: a lot There's a lot of preseason left to sort

1934
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: that group out, and I think it could take a

1935
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: number of different turns between now and the time they

1936
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 1: make the fifty three call from Darren in Buffalo. Go ahead, Darren, welcome,

1937
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: you're on the show with us. Thanks guys, they appreciate

1938
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: your taking my call. I just wanted to say that

1939
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: my biggest worry going into this first preseason game was

1940
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: all to talk about Josh Allen's inaccuracy in college, and

1941
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: I just did not see that in this game at all.

1942
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: He seemed to be dropping the ball exactly where it

1943
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: needed to be and that touchdown pass was started through

1944
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: a very fine needle. And also Brian Dable's offense, if

1945
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: this is a preseason game, for as much as he

1946
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: moved the ball around and kept it kept it interesting

1947
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: and unpredictable, I can't wait to see what he's got

1948
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: playing for the regular season. I agree both points. There

1949
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: was no evidence Thursday night when you see occasional off

1950
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: passes from Josh Allens here, but in Thursday Nights games,

1951
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 1: there's no evidence at all that he had a low

1952
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: completion percentage, which he did at Wyoming right he was

1953
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: on he was nine nineteen in the game. I know

1954
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: he was a victim of at least one drop. There

1955
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 1: may have been more. I'm going off the top of

1956
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: my head here, but there weren't. There was a pass,

1957
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 1: there was low and wide. I remember one. Um, But

1958
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: you know which the most part, he was pretty accurate,

1959
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I thought Thursday Night, Yeah, I think he did pretty well. Um.

1960
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: The thing that was evident to me is there is

1961
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: no throw on the field that he doesn't believe he

1962
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: can make. And because of that, he is inherently going

1963
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: to take more risk than a j. McCarron or Nathan

1964
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: Peterman because he has so much faith in his arm.

1965
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: My concern is he takes that to the extreme and

1966
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 1: puts the team in a tough spot. Um. For example,

1967
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: the Cary Lee play, it worked, right, but you know

1968
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: what the coaches are saying in the film room on

1969
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: that one, because he is retreating away from the pass

1970
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: rush and he's he's back pedaling and he throws off

1971
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: his back foot. Now credit to him, his arm got

1972
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: the ball there, and maybe that's all. Who knows. Maybe

1973
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: the offensive staff says, hey, you can make that play.

1974
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: Good job on you. Maybe they're saying that, but knowing

1975
01:36:55,600 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: how right you you, I don't have the stomach for that.

1976
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: If you're gonna put him in the game, because that's

1977
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, and sometimes it's not gonna work as

1978
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 1: well as that play did. And you've got to be

1979
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: able to take the highs and the lows because it'll

1980
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: be exciting. But I don't know if it's all gonna

1981
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: be good right away. A call from Tampa, Florida. One

1982
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: more call this hour. Dan on the line from Tampa,

1983
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, Dan, Hey, guys, Um, Yeah, I was just

1984
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the rotation. Everybody's got an opinion, right

1985
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: and so you know my feeling is, if healthy for

1986
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 1: both number one and two guys, Um, I'd like to

1987
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: see AJ do the number one for Q one and

1988
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Nate and Q two gosh again to the second half.

1989
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: Give him an experience, but don't, you know, put too

1990
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: much on him. It'd be nice to see one. Why not?

1991
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: Why don't you want to put too much on him? Dan?

1992
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't hear you, murk. Can you say

1993
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 1: it again? I'm sorry I interrupted you. Why do you not?

1994
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Why are you worried about putting too much on Josh Allen?

1995
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: He's a seventh overall pick in the draft. What are

1996
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 1: you worried about? No? I just think that basically, if

1997
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: if you give him a lot of time, you know

1998
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: he's going to be our long term answer. And so

1999
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 1: where I was going with this, Murph, was that in

2000
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: the third quarter, I'd love to see some of the

2001
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: better linemens and at least in the first series and

2002
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 1: the third quarter, actually cover him because he was getting crushed,

2003
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, in the first game, you know, with the thirds,

2004
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: and so that would be kind of nice. And then

2005
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: the third game, you know, you say, whoever those guys pick,

2006
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: they're going to tack and then you know, well, you know,

2007
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 1: get the rest mop up time they do. And the

2008
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I hear you keep get the other guys

2009
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: out and put Allen into the entire game. And you

2010
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: know what, well, yeah, the fourth game doesn't do anybody

2011
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: much good. I would say this though, and thank you

2012
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 1: for calling Dan. I want to see Josh Allen play

2013
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: with ones and against ones, and if we if they

2014
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: do it your way, then you don't see him against ones.

2015
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, you gotta see him against

2016
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: better competition. He wants to bring the starting offensive line

2017
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: out onto the field in the beginning of the third quarter.

2018
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. So if you want him

2019
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: in with the ones, you got to put him on

2020
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: the field when the ones are playing, and that's probably

2021
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 1: earlier in the game. And I'm not opposed to that

2022
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: because let's let's see how much is too much? You

2023
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you've been bringing him along

2024
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: in a certain way so he continually makes progress. Sometimes

2025
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: you've got to push the envelope a little bit so

2026
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: you know where you have to take a step back from.

2027
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: And if you have to take a step back from,

2028
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 1: it's not like your devoid of options. You have a

2029
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: J mccaron, you have Nathan Peterman, and then you you

2030
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: bump them back up and say, Okay, we're going here.

2031
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 1: But I think you you at least you at least

2032
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 1: should take the time to know where the line is

2033
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: with his development, and sometimes you get you know, what

2034
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 1: it is, or you can you know, find that line

2035
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 1: of demarcation by putting him in an uncomfortable situation potentially. Look,

2036
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: there's one guy, one guy. This sounds important, one guy

2037
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: who has the answer to this question how to use

2038
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. He's not gonna tell us when he joins us,

2039
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 1: we'll get well, Dan, I'm gonna tell you your correct

2040
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is the guy who has this answer, and

2041
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: he's standing by to join us next on the show.

2042
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: So come on back for that. Chris Brown is here.

2043
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 1: We got one more hour to go. One Bill's Live

2044
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: from Bill's training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radiofalo Bill's Radio

2045
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Networks story swamp date the update from Buffalo Bill's training camp.

2046
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: The Bills were on the field this morning eight forty

2047
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: five am for a two hour, fifteen twenty minute practice.

2048
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: Among the developments today, Josh Allen, Bill's rookie quarterback Gotten

2049
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: worked mostly with a second team today, in fact, exclusively

2050
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: with the second team today, after getting most of us

2051
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: work with the threes through the first few weeks of

2052
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: training camp. When to on whether that will maintain tomorrow

2053
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: when they practice tomorrow. Also, today a good day of

2054
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: work for wide receiver is Zay Jones, last year's second

2055
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: run draft pick, who had been warning and just came

2056
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: back to practice over the weekend and had been wearing

2057
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: a non contact jersey on Friday and Sunday. Today, the

2058
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: non contact jersey was off. Say Jones a full participant

2059
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: in the training camp practice for the first time since

2060
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: the Bills hit and went on the job here at

2061
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College practice tomorrow eight forty five. Final

2062
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: training camp practice eight forty five on Wednesday, both of

2063
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: them free and open to the public. You do not

2064
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: need a ticket. Bills getting set for their second preseason

2065
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 1: game coming up Friday night in Cleveland against the Browns.

2066
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars have suspended cornerback Jalen Ramsey and defensive end

2067
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Dante Follower for a week because of followers involvement in

2068
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: a post practice altercation and Ramsey's profane rant directed toward

2069
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: the media filming the incident. The Jaguars released a statement

2070
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 1: saying the two were suspended for violining team rules and

2071
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: conduct unbecoming of a Jaguars player. Dolphins quarter back Ryan

2072
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: Tannehill on Sunday yelled at rookie Klin Balligan kicked him

2073
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: out of the huddle after the running back missed a

2074
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 1: blocking assignment. Tannehill stop practice to show his displeasure. Hugh

2075
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: Jackson says Antoniocallaway, his rookie receiver, played the entire game

2076
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: against the Giants last week because Jackson was mad he

2077
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: did not want him to come out trying to punish

2078
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: him for his arrest on a traffic incident from the

2079
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: previous weekend. The attorney for the family of Maryland offensive

2080
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: lineman who died after a strenuous offseason workout is calling

2081
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: for a terrofence football coach DJ Durkin to be fired.

2082
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: And that's the update from Buffalo Bill's training camp on

2083
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 1: this Monday afternoon at Saint John Fisher College. Oh, good time,

2084
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: last papers do time. Welcome back to Joe's training camp.

2085
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of those last job Chris Brown

2086
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: infesteas cast today. We're joined by the head coach of

2087
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, Sean McDermot. Coach sank for joining us

2088
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: year a couple of days away from breaking camp. Now,

2089
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 1: how has practice been different this year from a year

2090
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: ago when you were here and Rightchester, Well, I think

2091
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: that you know, first of all, every team's difference or

2092
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 1: every year is different, just because of that. As we

2093
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: start off, the players are working extremely hard, not that

2094
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: they didn't last year, but it just seems like there's

2095
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: a little less distractions this year maybe than last year.

2096
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully as we move forward, continue to move forward,

2097
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 1: we get it closer and closer to the bulls eye here.

2098
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: I wonder too, how your practice routine changes when you

2099
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 1: get back to Orchard Park later this week and especially

2100
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 1: next week after the Cleveland game. Is it a different routine,

2101
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: a different type of practice you'd have back there. Yeah,

2102
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: there will be. I mean, we'll take a look at

2103
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 1: that second game, see how we see how we fare,

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Speaker 1: and just practice accordingly. One of the things we like

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Speaker 1: to do between the second and third preseason game is

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Speaker 1: get ourselves into a routine where by we get the

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Speaker 1: guys acclimated to what life would be like in a

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Speaker 1: regular season weeks. So the preparation models some of the

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Speaker 1: regular season preparation. So does the meeting time increase. This

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Speaker 1: is where you get your most meeting time right Training

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Speaker 1: camp is pretty much most meeting time during the day

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Speaker 1: regular season mode. It kind of gets scaled back a

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Speaker 1: little bit to some extent. I mean when we're home, Um,

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Speaker 1: when we try and give the guys hey, we come

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Speaker 1: in earlier, we get out giving them light at the

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Speaker 1: end of the tunnel, and and uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have to understand guys have lives outside of football that

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Speaker 1: go on as well. Um. And that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things I like about coming to training camp is it

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Speaker 1: takes some of the pressure off of that that honeydew

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Speaker 1: list or that to do list. When you when you

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Speaker 1: feel like you got to get home, right, can you

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Speaker 1: take some of their pressure? I know it. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we're trying to do that by coming a camp.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. I wonder you talk about meeting time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking back to last Thursday's game, the preseason

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Speaker 1: opener um to show on offense showed that many different

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Speaker 1: formations and that much of a very then had to

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Speaker 1: take considerable time in the meeting room. And when you

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Speaker 1: told us last week your main content was getting eleven

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Speaker 1: on the field, I kind of thought you were joking.

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Speaker 1: When I saw how the offense was up to you

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Speaker 1: and I thought he was serious. Getting the right person

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Speaker 1: out out there was big in this game. It was

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Speaker 1: that's not an easy task, and when I mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: I was serious. You go around the league, you scan

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Speaker 1: the different games that are being played, and quite often

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Speaker 1: there's a substitution era that occurs, and and part of

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Speaker 1: managing the game is our operation, and we spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time on that, and it's usually tough in

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Speaker 1: those situations, the first couple and the last preseason game,

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Speaker 1: and then special teams as well. And I think Danny

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Speaker 1: Crossman does a really good job as well as Matt

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Speaker 1: Smiley and making sure we've got eleven on the field.

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Speaker 1: We'll see as we continue to go forward here through

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Speaker 1: the preseason. We talked to coach Table this morning and

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Speaker 1: he was talking about being upstairs. I guess he communicated

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Speaker 1: to us that he really had never been upstairs as

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Speaker 1: a play caller before. He said he wants to be

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Speaker 1: up there again this week. Beyond that, he doesn't know.

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Speaker 1: He says, I know I'm up there on Friday. That's it.

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Speaker 1: But he felt the functionality of everything went pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And actually, the last time he was in the league,

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Speaker 1: the guy upstairs couldn't talk directly to the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: guess they can now. Where did you see the functionality

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Speaker 1: of everything for the offense, knowing the head guy for

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball was upstairs. How did

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Speaker 1: you see the functionality that I thought it worked. I

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Speaker 1: thought it flowed fairly well. Obviously we've got we got

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Speaker 1: we had some good results in particularly in the first half.

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Speaker 1: And look if if if he feels like he has

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Speaker 1: which I believe he does, good lieutenants at the position

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01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: coach level where he trusts them, which he does, and

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Speaker 1: they can communicate. And there's also a leadership element when

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Speaker 1: he's up you know, X amount of yards away. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to lead the players on the field when you're

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Speaker 1: up that far away. So he's got to feel like

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Speaker 1: he has good leadership down on the field, which he

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Speaker 1: does with the position coaches and the players. So that's

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Speaker 1: the element that you miss and not being on the field,

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Speaker 1: is that that leadership element that goes with the job

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Speaker 1: you and he's still kind of feeling that out and

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Speaker 1: then maybe at the end of the preseason, you guys

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Speaker 1: just come to a decision what's best for the team

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Speaker 1: or how how do you kind of Yeah, we will

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01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: resolve that, Yeah we will. I mean we'll take one day,

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Speaker 1: one game at a time, and um, I think to

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Speaker 1: your point, I think he liked it. Obviously the results

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Speaker 1: were good, but each game we'll get a better feel.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've left the door open with with

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Speaker 1: Brian and really with Leslie. However they want to do

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Speaker 1: it in preseason, now is the time to try it.

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Speaker 1: I've been both when I was a play caller, been

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Speaker 1: down and then up. Um, So it's just a matter

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Speaker 1: of where you feel like you can be the best

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Speaker 1: version of yourself coach charge. As the Bills offense, we're

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Speaker 1: asking our listeners viewers this question today, and I guess

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, of all the things that

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Speaker 1: went well on offense last week, what what did you

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Speaker 1: like the most? Was it, you know, passing over the middle,

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Speaker 1: was it the multiple looks at you show the opponents,

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Speaker 1: was it um the pace, maybe the tempo of your offense.

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Speaker 1: Was there one thing you really thought went well for

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Speaker 1: your offense last Thursday? You know, I thought overall, we

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Speaker 1: executed well in the first half, whether it really didn't

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Speaker 1: matter who was in the game. I thought the execution,

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Speaker 1: the fundamentals were sharp, which is usually you know, lagging

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Speaker 1: in the first game. I thought the fundamentals were there,

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Speaker 1: the energy, the rhythm of the offense was there, and

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Speaker 1: you saw it rather quickly in the game. We got

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Speaker 1: off to a good start, and you don't always have

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Speaker 1: to get off the good start. Doesn't really it's not

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Speaker 1: a predeterminer of success. But I liked how we dig

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01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: it off to a good start in that game, and

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Speaker 1: we kept the pressure on the defense the entire half,

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Speaker 1: which was good to see. The non contact Jersey came

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Speaker 1: off as a today. I know you're trying to do

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Speaker 1: this in steps and bring him along at a pace

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Speaker 1: that you feel is good for him coming off the

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Speaker 1: injuries that he did. The thing that I noticed maybe

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Speaker 1: most about him, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: because you're around him a lot more than I am.

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Speaker 1: But he's always been serious about his work. I think

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Speaker 1: that's well documented. But he was always kind of this engaging,

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Speaker 1: kind of jovial personality. Not super effervescent, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the guy that you can kind of go back. This year,

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Speaker 1: he looks as serious as a heart attack. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he is like laser locked in. Do you see that

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01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: also in him? Just know, when you're around him a

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Speaker 1: lot more than we are, you know, I do. I

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Speaker 1: think um, he feels like he's got something to prove

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Speaker 1: to an extent, and that's healthy. There's there's there's some

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Speaker 1: good to that. Um. You saw him out there today.

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Speaker 1: To your point, he took the red jersey off, he

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Speaker 1: was in the blue jersey, made some made some big

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Speaker 1: plays and contested areas of the field. And UM, he's

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Speaker 1: competing at a high level. I think the more reps

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Speaker 1: he gets, the more UM kind of wear and tear

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Speaker 1: right now he gets, the more confident he'll get in

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Speaker 1: terms of where he is and his and his you know,

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Speaker 1: return to play. At this point, you've had Day for

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Speaker 1: a little bit more than a year now, and I wonder,

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Speaker 1: with your defensive background, how would you describe him? What

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Speaker 1: kind of receiver is here or might he become? Do

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01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: you think what are his strengths? I don't. I don't

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01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: know really that we know yet. That's why I as

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Speaker 1: a young player, I don't know that anybody really knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a young player. UM that was really

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Speaker 1: in a role last year. UM out Adam need playing

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Speaker 1: out a position and at some at some points, but

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Speaker 1: he put the team first, which which we appreciate. And

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01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 1: and UH got a lot of experience and some some

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01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 1: of those were good moments and some weren't. And the

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01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: biggest thing is that he learns from those moments, both

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Speaker 1: on and off the field, and he'll use that to

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Speaker 1: to really carve out a great career, hopefully as a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill. We're with the Bill's head coach, Sean McDermott,

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01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: UM and coming up on Wednesday, a couple of days away.

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01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: It's the premiere of Embedded with the Buffalo Bills Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock on Facebook. Watch. Seeing some good clips so far,

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Speaker 1: you're all over, You're you're going to be a star

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01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: of this embedded show. Talk about what your involvement has

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01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:40,880
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Speaker 1: it's it's authentic. I can tell you that it's it's real,

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Speaker 1: and some of those moments I'm sure that we're taped. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe the perception of Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott may change. I hope not. But honestly, that's that

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01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: it's real. It's it's authentic, and uh, it's an up

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01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 1: and close, up, close and personal you of what goes

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Speaker 1: on in an NFL training camp, in particular with the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and our fan base. UM you know. I

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01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: know if I were a fan, I wouldn't miss it.

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01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of a risk right from

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: your standpoint, to to put everything out there on the

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Speaker 1: table for everybody, isn't it? Did they have to twist

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Speaker 1: your arm to do it? I know, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: there's there I get it. And anytime we can connect

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Speaker 1: with our fan base, I think there's there's value in that.

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01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,879
Speaker 1: There's there's power in that. Uh, we have, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: you know, the best fan base in the world when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the NFL, and um, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you that our fan base and our players have

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01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: a have a unique connection as well, and it gives

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Speaker 1: them not only chance to see me, but also to

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Speaker 1: see our players. I have to ask, though, who where

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Speaker 1: did what was the genesis of the mc hammer clip?

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Speaker 1: Try to drive home the point of how how your

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01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 1: feet have to be on the field if you're going

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01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: to make a play. Where where was the chair that

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01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: came from? You know, I just you have these moments

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01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: where you're thinking, right and and uh, you know, you've

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01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: been around We've all been around the game a long time,

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: and and to come in and always run the same

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01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 1: type of meeting. I think it just wears guys out.

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01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: So you got to spark it in different ways. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's something like that. Sometimes it's other forms of humor.

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01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's you know, a little Q and a back

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Speaker 1: and forth and testing who may know the answer. So

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Speaker 1: this morning, in fact, one of our director of security

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01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: was in the meeting and we were going back and

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01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 1: forth and he was asked a question. He sits in

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01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: the meeting every day, and he got the answer right.

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01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: Good thing, or he wouldn't have been allowed back in

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Speaker 1: the meetings. You want to see this, I think, folks

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Speaker 1: embedded with the Buffalo Bills Wednesday night this week. It

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Speaker 1: starts the next several Wednesdays, eight pm on Facebook Watch.

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Speaker 1: You told us something last week that I found it

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01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 1: interesting about your quarterback evaluation process. You'd take time every

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Speaker 1: day here at camp to go back. I don't know

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01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: if it's late in the afternoon to night, but watch

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01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 1: every snap that each of your three quarterbacks takes. What

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01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: are you looking for there? What's that all about? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's all part of the evaluation.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes it's now in the quarterback position, we'll go

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Speaker 1: back and look at other positions, whether Brandon and I

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01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 1: getting together um or other position coaches and myself getting

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Speaker 1: together the coordinators or just or just myself, is just

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01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 1: to go back and take another look. During the day

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Speaker 1: when we get back from practice. Typically we look at

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Speaker 1: scheme and some personnel, but it's it affords me a

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Speaker 1: time personally to to relax and just look at how

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Speaker 1: the positions being played, what I'm looking for and evaluating,

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01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: and also the leadership part of the of the position.

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01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself focusing on throws or reads or

2315
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 1: command of the offense or the whole package, just the

2316
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 1: whole package. Accuracy, decision making, leadership, who's moving the ball

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01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: generating uh, generating points? Um, you know, moving the ball

2318
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: down the field and different and then for example blitz period,

2319
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 1: who who's affected by the blitz? Who isn't? Um So

2320
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: just looking for more than you know more so just that,

2321
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: but also consistency throughout a practice, regardless of the period

2322
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 1: or focus of that of that period. Um. So you

2323
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: could say, really all the above. I know that you're

2324
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 1: a coach that prides yourself on learning from your own

2325
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: experiences or being around coaches that you've learned a lot

2326
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 1: from over the years with the way that you handled

2327
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback in Nathan Peterman last year, how has

2328
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 1: that impacted and helped you grow in learning how to

2329
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 1: handle Josh Allen this year? Well, certainly every situation is

2330
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 1: slightly different. Having said that, you learned from every every

2331
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: situation last year, Nathan's experience, you know, I thought he

2332
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: was brought along in the right way. Certainly had a

2333
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 1: lot of positive moments throughout the throughout his season, in

2334
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 1: particular earlier in the season. And then you know what

2335
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: people tend to forget a little bit is is that

2336
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Nathan went out and helped us win that Indianapolis game,

2337
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 1: which if you go back, we'd never make the playoffs

2338
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 1: if we don't win that game. So here's a rookie,

2339
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: I got a tremendous amount of experience, some good and

2340
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: similar to Zay, some not so good. But the way

2341
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 1: he's learned and what he's learned from those situations, you know,

2342
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of the scars both physically and emotionally that he

2343
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: built up over the course of time will help his

2344
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: career in the long run. Sean that do you feel

2345
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 1: at all like the clock is ticking on your quarterback decision.

2346
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: Not what are you laughing about? No, it's a preseason

2347
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: number two. I know you've had a play as a

2348
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: sense of urgency. Yeah, I respect that there's a sense

2349
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: of urgency and with every decision at some point we

2350
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: need to make a decision and get the continuity in

2351
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 1: the chemistry of the team, and not only at that position,

2352
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: quite honestly, but at every position, so that players, you know,

2353
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said for you and I

2354
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: are spending a lot of time together and you getting

2355
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 1: to know how I'm going to react to something and

2356
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: I know how you're going to react, and so without

2357
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: even a spoken word, So that comes with being around

2358
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: one another. Here's a position I'm curious about, wide receiver,

2359
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: and we talked about Zay Jones. It struck me yesterday

2360
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 1: being out here yesterday that this is a big week

2361
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 1: for Corey Coleman too, like the first really full week

2362
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 1: of practice for him. What do you hope to see

2363
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 1: from him? What are you looking for from him? I

2364
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 1: would just say the biggest thing right now is that

2365
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: he gets comfortable in the system and how we're doing

2366
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 1: things so that he can play fast. That's important for

2367
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: any any player, let alone at the receiver position, so

2368
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 1: he saw him out there this morning made some key catches.

2369
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 1: He's a guy that works from a position of strength

2370
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: in terms of his speed, so that's where we got

2371
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: to get him playing fast and comfortable in the system.

2372
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: The player I wanted to ask you about was the

2373
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: one who was out on the field twenty minutes before

2374
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 1: practice with you. Taron Johnson is out here trying to

2375
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: gobble it up as fast as he can so we

2376
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: can execute it as fast as possible. Are you how

2377
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: how much do you want to shorten his learning curve?

2378
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: Knowing essentially you know it's him and Philip Gains that

2379
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 1: are really kind of battling for that nickel role. Why

2380
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 1: is he asking you for that extra time or are

2381
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: you saying, Tarn, meet me out on the field twenty

2382
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: minutes before practice so we can go over these two things.

2383
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: He's a he's an eager young player, which which which

2384
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I just in this case happened to go

2385
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: into the locker room before practice, and and he was

2386
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: in there. He was ready to go already and just

2387
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: doing some some fine tuning to his equipment before he

2388
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 1: came out, and so I said, hey, makee me on

2389
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 1: the practice field and we would get some work in

2390
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: and so m that nickel position that he plays, or

2391
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 1: that Philip plays is key to our success. It's it

2392
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,839
Speaker 1: used to be looked at as a non starting position.

2393
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Now honestly it's a starting position. And for a rookie

2394
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 1: to occupy that spot, there's a lot that goes on

2395
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: and a lot that he has to learn between now

2396
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 1: and the opening day. So you're just trying to shorten

2397
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: that learning curve and make it as shallow as possible,

2398
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 1: so it's not this giant arc that he's got it.

2399
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, we try and put things, you know,

2400
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: the playbook. If you just read a playbook one page

2401
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 1: at a time, it can get pretty volume, miss if

2402
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: you will. Little bit you said egregious earlier too. When

2403
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: we're done, we need to pull out the Yeah. But yeah,

2404
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 1: so we try and just kind of simplify it by

2405
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: grouping things together and associating words and putting things in

2406
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 1: a different bucket so that they can It looks like

2407
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 1: one hundred things on the menu, but it's really just

2408
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: ten to make it easy again so they can play fast.

2409
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I have one deep player in defense, they asked you

2410
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 1: about it seems to be getting more snaps Keenan Robinson.

2411
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 1: What are you looking for from him and what do

2412
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: you need to get from that position. Well, Keenan's a

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01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: player that's played a lot of plays. He was in

2414
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: a system in New York with a coach that I've

2415
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 1: been around and Steve Spagnola for a long time, and

2416
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: the system is somewhat similar, So there's some carryover. You

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01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: gotta remember, he's you know, he's playing at times when

2418
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 1: he's in with the ones next to a young player

2419
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 1: in Tremaine who's next to an older player on the

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01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: other side, and a veteran player in Lorenzo that's seen

2421
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: a lot of football. So there's value in that. And

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01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: we're just we're looking at Keenan and how he's played

2423
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 1: to this point has earned more opportunities. In addition to that,

2424
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: it's what that looks like next to our young middle

2425
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: linebacker and how that could impact the entire defense and

2426
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: hopefully a positive way. Coach were at the midway point

2427
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 1: between preseason game number one and preseason game number two,

2428
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 1: is there anything you look in particular you're looking to

2429
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: clean up from last Thursday as you approach this game

2430
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: Friday night again in Cleveland. Well, I really wasn't very

2431
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: happy with that second half. I don't think that we

2432
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 1: played to our standard and what we expect around here.

2433
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: And that's been addressed, and the players know that most

2434
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: of that was our young players. And there's some good

2435
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 1: and there's some bad to that. The good is, hey,

2436
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 1: they can make an adjustment. The bad is that it happened.

2437
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 1: But the good is that these guys have all over

2438
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 1: the course of their career, made an adjustment from junior

2439
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: high to high school, high school to college, and now

2440
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 1: the important thing is they make a similar adjustment going

2441
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 1: from college to the NFL. The pace of the game

2442
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: was faster and too fast for some of them, so

2443
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:39,480
Speaker 1: they have to find a way to slow the game down,

2444
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: and we try and give them tools and resources to

2445
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: do that. Coach, good luck, thank you, good to be

2446
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: Coach mcderm joining us, Chris Brown and I back in

2447
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 1: a moment one Bills Live from Bill's training Camp on

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01:59:49,280 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's rad Welcome back to the show, John Murphy

2449
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: and Chris Brown coming to you from Buffalovill training camp

2450
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: or in the Peblocanno Pavilion overlooking Groundee stadium on him.

2451
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 1: You can see behind us. But the Cardinals from Saint

2452
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: John Fisher College, one of the premier Division three college

2453
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: football programs in the country, are into their training camp now,

2454
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 1: coach by Western New York native Blockboort native Paul Vosburg.

2455
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't see coach out there, but I saw him

2456
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: this morning, Coach vos coach Boss. He's been here for

2457
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 1: a while and he's had success for a long time.

2458
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 1: And whenever Fisher starts practicing, you know the camp is

2459
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 1: winding down. It is. Yeah, that's right, because this is

2460
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 1: usually around what is the second full week in August.

2461
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: It's usually the time where colleges get back at it

2462
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 1: at the Division three level. High schools getting back at

2463
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 1: it today for tryouts across Western New York. So a

2464
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 1: lot of athletes getting back on the field of this fall.

2465
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: Happy that you've joined us today. We got a lot

2466
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 1: going on, including our Twitter poll with let me check

2467
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: and see how we're doing. We're getting good response on this.

2468
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you two on the telephone

2469
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: nine yeah, eight three fifty or toll free one eight

2470
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. More than twelve

2471
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 1: hundred votes What did you like most about Brian day

2472
02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: Bo's offense against the Carolina Panthers last Thursday? We offer

2473
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 1: some suggestions. Was it the multiple formations forty percent of

2474
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 1: you say yes, that's it? Was it the number of

2475
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:23,680
Speaker 1: passes over the middle? Thirty seven percent of you say yes,

2476
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 1: that's what I like? Was at the pace the tempo

2477
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 1: of the offense eighteen percent say yes, pace, five percent

2478
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 1: of something else in mind? Lines open eight o three

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02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,080
Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: by fifty two five fifty. What do you make of

2481
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 1: the passes over the middle? Chris just a different quarterback,

2482
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 1: different quarterback talent here or within that. I don't think

2483
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 1: it's any secret that Tyrod Taylor had a monumental trouble

2484
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 1: hitting crossing routes. I don't know what it was. I

2485
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know if it was a mental block, but he

2486
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: was much better on vertical routes downfield than he was

2487
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 1: about crossing routes, and for some reason he just could

2488
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 1: not master that part of his game. And knowing Tyrod

2489
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 1: like we did, and how hard he worked at every

2490
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 1: aspect of his game, it was very puzzling why that

2491
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 1: was one part of his game he could never improve upon,

2492
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,800
Speaker 1: and I think it was part of the reason why

2493
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 1: Charles Clay did not really take off as a premier

2494
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: tight end in this offense, because his quarterback couldn't hit

2495
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 1: him when he was running across the field. My game

2496
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 1: day broadcast partner Mark Kelso said this during to get

2497
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: this why Kelso so good? Because he said, I made

2498
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: note of the passes over the middle and a lot

2499
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 1: of crossing over the middle. And Kelso said, you know,

2500
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: you can stretch the field horizontally as well as verdically,

2501
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: And I said, you're right, and that's kind of what

2502
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 1: you're doing when you're passing over the middle to a receiver.

2503
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, in motion over the middle, you're stretching at horizontally.

2504
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 1: The other thing pre snap motion, there was a lot

2505
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,520
Speaker 1: of it. We didn't mention it in a Twitter poll,

2506
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 1: but I know a lot of people felt good about

2507
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 1: and Kelso another one because that's for years he's been

2508
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 1: talking about the importance of pre snap motion. There was

2509
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 1: a lot of that in Thursday's game, and I'm sure

2510
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot more to come and they remaining games

2511
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:00,280
Speaker 1: for the build, and that's that's the best job I've

2512
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 1: seen an offensive coordinator do again. I go back to

2513
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:05,400
Speaker 1: Chan Gailey because there's one thing that Chan Gailey was

2514
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: really good at. It was the pre snap motion and

2515
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 1: he would align people ever so, and here's a guy

2516
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 1: that would adjust from one series to the next. And

2517
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:18,120
Speaker 1: I remember Chan telling me one time that, based on

2518
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 1: the previous series, he saw a linebacker cheating towards the

2519
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: opposite hash he said he was. He was, I'm not

2520
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna do my Chan Gailey to act. No, I'm not

2521
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 1: doing it because it always turns into either Ross Pero

2522
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: or Buddy Knicks. So he so he was cheating maybe

2523
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Speaker 1: six inches further towards the one hash mark. And so

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Speaker 1: Chan said, when I run that play next time, I

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02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 1: am now that I've got him cheating, I'm gonna do

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02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:46,920
Speaker 1: the motion the same way, but we're gonna take the

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02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 1: route the other way. And it ended up being like

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02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 1: a forty yard pass play because he took advantage of

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02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: that guy cheating six inches one way. Those are the

2530
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 1: kinds of fine tuning adjustments that I'm hoping Brian Dable

2531
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 1: is keen on also, because like I said, we haven't

2532
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: seen him since Chan was calling plays here on offense.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some calls on this topic. Rick calling from Hamburg. Ahead, Rick,

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02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, guys, I appreciate you taking

2535
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 1: my call, but I was shocked. I've had season tickets

2536
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 1: for a long time and seen a lot of played

2537
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 1: a lot of food. I did not expect that approach. Um,

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02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't listen, knew what to expect. I sat down

2539
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: in my seats the other night and my job was

2540
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: dropped open because I saw more of an attacking style offense.

2541
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: I loved the fact he was passing um first if

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02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 1: you want to say that, Shan first down. I don't

2543
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 1: think there was one thing protictable whatever about his offense. Um.

2544
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, it was one night. It was fun to

2545
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 1: watch and kind of fun to about, you know, down

2546
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: the road when number seventeen gets his call um and

2547
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 1: and BEV receivers what that may look like. Um, it

2548
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:03,000
Speaker 1: was very entertaining. And I hope that fortunes, you know,

2549
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:06,160
Speaker 1: continuing on here, because there was I don't think there

2550
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 1: was anything vanilla about that for the first preseason game.

2551
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 1: I agreed you're right about that. Riggan. It's surprising that

2552
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 1: they they unveiled. They could have gone vanilla last Thursday night, Chris,

2553
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: they could have, you know, kept everything under raps. I

2554
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 1: assumed they didn't because they wanted to see if it worked.

2555
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: You know. McDermott, as he said when we talked to him,

2556
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: he was worried about getting eleven guys on the field.

2557
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 1: They want to make sure they could actually now they

2558
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 1: make go vanilla the rest of the way. You're in preseason,

2559
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 1: by the way, they might r I talked to Dabill

2560
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: coming off the practice field Friday, the day after the game,

2561
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 1: and I was joking with him, telling him, Hey, I

2562
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 1: was telling Murf on the show. When I saw you,

2563
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna give you a bro hug because I

2564
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 1: was so happy about it. Like this. No, we did

2565
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 1: a shoulder bump, just kind of did the little shoulder

2566
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 1: bump and we were both good with that. But I said,

2567
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: it was just really nice to see creativity again on

2568
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,160
Speaker 1: offense for this team. And he said, we got a

2569
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: long way to go. That's the first thing he said

2570
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 1: to me. So, you know, I think he was encouraged

2571
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 1: by some of what he got out of his players

2572
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,560
Speaker 1: last Thursday night, But he is pumping the brakes hard

2573
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 1: because I think he knows nobody's really game planning him

2574
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:14,000
Speaker 1: on defense yet, and when we get to the regular season,

2575
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:15,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole different ball. Away. I'll squeezing

2576
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 1: another call here, Bob calling from Jacksonville, Florida. Go Bob,

2577
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 1: go ahead the afternoon Fella's great show. Hi, thank you

2578
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 1: want to. I wanted to talk about what was being

2579
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:29,560
Speaker 1: out of the running backs from Daval's offense to the

2580
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 1: previous car point about a vanilla offense. We can Bill's

2581
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 1: fans are used to seeing the running backs chipping light

2582
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 1: they did, and the tight ends chip locking and really

2583
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 1: helping out. Yeah, offensive line we still don't know about.

2584
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 1: And it's just a thrill to watch him play. It's

2585
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 1: no anomaly. We have the oldest running back group in

2586
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think it's the wisdom of these

2587
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: guys that, you know, the years they have, they know

2588
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 1: what to do. We surprised the Panthers with the chip

2589
02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 1: blocks we really did, which means nobody was expect seeing

2590
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 1: us to do that, and I just thought that was

2591
02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 1: a wonderful new wrinkle to the team. Yeah, Logan Thomas

2592
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 1: probably the best chip block of the box leader. But yeah,

2593
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: and I and I would say that I would say

2594
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 1: that Chris Ivory's probably the best candidate for that job

2595
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 1: short of Pat de Marco. In the backfield, I think

2596
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory is also a little bit underrated as a

2597
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:26,680
Speaker 1: pass receiver, and he hasn't been shy in voicing that opinion.

2598
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see if coach Dabele is on the

2599
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 1: same page as him. But as I was saying earlier

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02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 1: in the show, I expect these backs to be split wide.

2601
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 1: I expect them to catch a lot of passes, you know,

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02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 1: until the wide receiving corps kind of sorts itself out

2603
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:44,320
Speaker 1: in terms of a firm pecking order. It really wouldn't

2604
02:07:44,360 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 1: surprise me the first few games of the season if

2605
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 1: we see the running backs being a factor, you know,

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02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:50,840
Speaker 1: in the past receiving game, whether they're split wide or

2607
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield or even used as a

2608
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: safety valve option. I mean as far as the chip

2609
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 1: blocks though, I mean, I think we're going to see

2610
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: everything under the sun. And that's another difference with Dable

2611
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,680
Speaker 1: that we're going to see. You know, people have been

2612
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 1: asking him for the better part of the last three

2613
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: or four months, what's your identity as an offense. I

2614
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 1: don't think he has one because he is a one one.

2615
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 1: Because if you have an identity, that means you're predictable.

2616
02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,680
Speaker 1: He wants an identity week to week. I think, yeah, no,

2617
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 1: absolutely week, here's where you are in next week. And

2618
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you mentioned that because I had a

2619
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 1: conversation with another media member on the sidelines of practice

2620
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 1: today and I was saying to him, I would not

2621
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 1: be surprised if week to week there are practice squad

2622
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,800
Speaker 1: in fifty three man roster shuffles based on what he

2623
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 1: feels he needs offensively for that particular week against that

2624
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 1: particular opponent. Now are we talking major things. No, But

2625
02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a receiver is pushed off the fifty three

2626
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:43,800
Speaker 1: because he needs an extra tight end that week, or

2627
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 1: maybe an extra running back is dropped in favor of

2628
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: an extra receiver because he's planning on going four by

2629
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 1: one more at the time in the game. It's not

2630
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, this is a this is a front office

2631
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 1: that isn't a shy about shuffling that last three to

2632
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 1: five spots on the bottom of their roster all year round,

2633
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 1: not only to keep guys on their toes, but to

2634
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:06,040
Speaker 1: fit what they might need in a particular week. And

2635
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 1: with Brian Dable here in the variety that he wants

2636
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 1: to bring to this offense. Wouldn't surprise me if that

2637
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:14,320
Speaker 1: practice has increased even more week to week once we

2638
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 1: get to the regular season. Just have a couple of

2639
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 1: minutes here for a couple of items from NFL true

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02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 1: or false. So it just brought to you by Yancey's,

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Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artists and Cheese NFL true or false?

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02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 1: True or false? Chris, The Jets should hold on to

2643
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. You mentioned it when we had our guest

2644
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 1: on at the one o'clock Our Lorenzo rays that a

2645
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of people think the Jets are gonna trade Teddy Bridgewater.

2646
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:37,320
Speaker 1: What do you think? Should they hold on to him?

2647
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:40,440
Speaker 1: Keep him? What do you think? True or false? It's

2648
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:43,080
Speaker 1: hard to It's always hard to predict what the Jets

2649
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 1: are gonna do because whatever they should do, they usually

2650
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: do the opposite. Here's the thing that they have to

2651
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 1: wrestle with. You've got Josh McCown. He performed admiral admirably

2652
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 1: for you last year, but he's pushing forty. What's his

2653
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 1: future realistically? I don't know. Maybe you're comfortable with a

2654
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:04,040
Speaker 1: forty year old back up. And if that's the case, fine,

2655
02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:06,440
Speaker 1: then I would move Bridgewater, especially if you can get

2656
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: some decent draft capital for him. Um, because if he

2657
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 1: proves he can play through the course of this preseason

2658
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 1: and the early returns it very good. There is a

2659
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,240
Speaker 1: team out there that would probably be interested in Bridgewater

2660
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 1: provided he gets through the preseason healthy. So if there

2661
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:22,920
Speaker 1: is enough value coming back to you, yeah, you should

2662
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:25,839
Speaker 1: trade Teddy Bridgewater. Because you're hooking your wagon to Sam Darnold.

2663
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm saying true, I'm saying false. Okay, I

2664
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 1: just think, Yeah, let's let's wait. It's early, you know,

2665
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 1: let's wait. No, I'm not saying to it tomorrow. No,

2666
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 1: let's but let's you know, these are early returns coming

2667
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: in on Sam Darnold. I don't know if he's a

2668
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:42,839
Speaker 1: guy or not. They have a known commodity in McCown

2669
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 1: and a pretty good commodity in Teddy Bridgewater. Let's wait.

2670
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they should wait until, you know, right before

2671
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 1: the season begins to think about moving Bridgewater. We got

2672
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 1: to the middle of November. Now, yeah's to wait that long,

2673
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 1: all right. NFL True or False Brought to you by Yancy's,

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Speaker 1: with more in a moment One Bill's line from Bill's

2676
02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:27,800
Speaker 1: training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned?

2677
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 1: On today's show? Presented by Advanced Alarmed providing Western New

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had Tredavious White on the

2681
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 1: show in the noon hour twelve thirty today. Among other things,

2682
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:43,880
Speaker 1: Tredevious talked about how much better he feels as a

2683
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:48,600
Speaker 1: player going into a second season in the NFL. The

2684
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:50,120
Speaker 1: last year, I feel like, you know, I was just

2685
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 1: using my alyticism. Oh now I think the game has

2686
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 1: slowed down so much more for me because I pretty

2687
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 1: much know what Mike van Joy, how how do you

2688
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 1: played different? How do they see things? So it just

2689
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:01,920
Speaker 1: helped me out a little bit more. So I can

2690
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 1: take chances knowing those guys are gonna be over the top,

2691
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 1: or they can take chances just know I could be

2692
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: there to build them out. Also, so if you know,

2693
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:09,920
Speaker 1: with us just playing together that year and it just

2694
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:11,840
Speaker 1: give us the confidence just to know that, you know,

2695
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:13,720
Speaker 1: we know the defense, you know what to expect, you

2696
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:15,680
Speaker 1: know what we can do in soli assisiation, and we

2697
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:17,800
Speaker 1: know where we can't be in socistimation. I feel like,

2698
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, when the games come on Sundays. We did

2699
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:23,680
Speaker 1: have hlped us out White down the show with us.

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Speaker 1: Also Sean McDermot, head coach of the Bills, joined this.

2701
02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: We asked him what he's trying to clean up from

2702
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:31,360
Speaker 1: last week this week, from preseason game number one the

2703
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:35,400
Speaker 1: preseason game number two. Here's what you have to say. Well,

2704
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 1: I really wasn't very happy with that second half. I

2705
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:41,640
Speaker 1: don't think that we played to our standard and what

2706
02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 1: we expect around here. And that's been addressed and the

2707
02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:47,919
Speaker 1: players know that most of that was our young players.

2708
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:50,400
Speaker 1: And there's some good and there's some bad to that.

2709
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 1: The good is, hey, they can make an adjustment. The

2710
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 1: bad is that it happened. But the good is that

2711
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 1: these guys have, all over the course of their career,

2712
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 1: made an adjustment from junior high to high school, high

2713
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,080
Speaker 1: school of college, and now the important thing is they

2714
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: make a similar adjustment going from college to the NFL.

2715
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 1: They paced the game was faster and too fast for

2716
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 1: some of them. So they have to find a way

2717
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 1: to slow the game down, and we try and give

2718
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 1: them tools and resources to do that. Sean McDermott talking

2719
02:13:17,480 --> 02:13:19,640
Speaker 1: about improvement from game one the game two, Chris, it

2720
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 1: strikes me how you know our Twitter poll today. Will

2721
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 1: get to that in a second, but we're dealing again

2722
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: with last Friday's game. And when you hear that answer

2723
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,840
Speaker 1: from coach McDermott and just his whole demeanor, he's not

2724
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 1: looking back to last week's game anymore. They have moved

2725
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:34,800
Speaker 1: on during the week two preseason game number two, and

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02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 1: it'll and again, I know everybody's going to be absorbed

2727
02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks and what the rotation is going to be,

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02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 1: and who's starting the game, and who's playing with the

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02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 1: ones and the twos and the threes, but there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of other things that we really do have

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Speaker 1: to monitor in this game. Can the offense take a

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Speaker 1: step forward again or will they retreat and go vanilla

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. I'm kind of interested to

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Speaker 1: see if they diversify it even further. I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: thinking probably not, but you just never know, because these

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Speaker 1: guys have a certain plan in place and they're not

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Speaker 1: deviating from it, and they don't care how unconventional it

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Speaker 1: might be. Offense defense end specially. Yeah, we got a

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Speaker 1: plan for tomorrow show and it's a good one. Leslie Frazier,

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Speaker 1: Bill's defensive coordinator, will join us. We hope to get

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Speaker 1: Premide Vans on the show tomorrow as well. Want to

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Speaker 1: thank Chris Brown for joining us today. Our production assistants

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coltneck, Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rouge, jj Turto,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Robell, our producer Jay Harris, Tina Morrow

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Speaker 1: at noon from Bill's training camp with One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio