1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we cut 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: through the noise and we try to get to the 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: heart of what's really happening. Today, we're going to dive 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: into all of the big stories with my guest Clay Travis. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: He's the founder of. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: OutKick and the host of The Clay Travis and Buck 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. He's also my colleague from Fox News. So 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit about the Tennessee 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: volunteers prospects this football season because Clay Travis is a 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: huge Tennessee guy and I went to the University of Tennessee. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: So we're going to cover the big topics football. We're 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: also going to talk about the cover up of Joe 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Biden's health. Obviously, this book's out, Jake Tapper, Alex Thompson, 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about it. So we'll get Clay's take about 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: the cover up of Joe Biden's health. Whilso unpack President 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: Trump's push for peace in the Middle East, using that 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: momentum he had from the Abraham Accords, striking all these 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: business deals in the Middle East, Why this business first 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: approach might just rewrite the region's future. Plus we'll tackle 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the latest on Tariff's. Also, we're going to get into 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: nil reform in college sports. 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Has that ruined college sports? 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Buckle up, it's time for the truth with Lisa Booth 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: and Clay Travis. Well, Clay Travis, it's great to have 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: you on the show. Appreciate you making the time. 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Appreciate you continuing to dominate. I think the last time 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: I saw you was in New York City and you 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: were wearing a Tennessee orange ish outfit. So so hopefully 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: we'll have some games to celebrate this fall. But in 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: the meantime, I got a little bit of time. 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: So that was actually going to be my first question 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: to you. We'll get the important stuff out of the 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: way first. How do you think Tennessee will do this year? 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Well, so, did you pay attention as afore as an 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: alum to the drama surrounding Nico and what. 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: Was going to happen? 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it was such a big story, it was 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: hard to miss, and so I think there's a lot 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: of question about the quarterback position. 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: The over under. 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: You know, you know I love sports gambling and have 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: been involved in sports gambling for a long time. Is 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: eight and a half wins. I think that's probably about accurate. 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: I think they'll go eight and four or nine and three. 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: I think they'll struggle as usual to beat Alabama and 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: Florida on the road, so I would put losses in there. 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: Georgia Tennessee has not been very good at for a 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: long time. Georgia obviously very good. That game is in Knoxville, 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: so I would probably say that is going to end 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: up being a loss too, and then they should win 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: the rest. So again, I think eight and a half 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: nine wins is probably a fair estimation. So I would 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: say eight and four, nine and three not bad, but 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: not elite. 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: So I shouldn't purchase SEC Championship. 56 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: Should not purchase SEC Championship tickets again, and then and 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: then have me buy them and give them to deserving 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: a dad and a son, which was a very positive 59 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: way in that story, by the way, for. 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: People who don't know, you. 61 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: Bought a couple of years ago SEC Championship game tickets 62 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: thinking Tennessee was going to be there, and then Tennis 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: he was not there and uh, and so we ended 64 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: up giving tickets to uh deserve. 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: Was he an lsu fan? I think an L s 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: u fan? L guy? 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So basically I got a little excited. 68 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: Watching because we'd beat Bama, yep. 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: And then so I got a little too over my 70 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: skis and so I like bought these like sick tickets 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: to the SEC Championship and then we did not make it, 72 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: and I was like trying to offload them, and. 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: I was texting like everyone I knew. 74 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: I was like trying to figure out how to get 75 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: you know, how to like get someone to buy them. 76 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: And then I texted Clay and he was like, let 77 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: me buy them, like we'll give him away to someone, 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: and which was really sweet to you. 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: By the way, you have a good. 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: Want to kill my reputation that I'm doing nice things. 81 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, and we we found this guy who, uh 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: special Forces guy, you know, he was suffering from TBI 83 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: and you know, but just really good guy. And he 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: took a son and did the best time. I did 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: pay for the hotel because I don't want to be 86 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: like a total cheap ass, but it was really actually 87 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: end up being really cool and that was really nice 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: of you to do. So it ended up turning my 89 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: ill advised decision into you know, something that was really nice. 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: So appreciate you doing that. And I was really kind. 91 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, I like to see I'm a sucker for 92 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: since I'm a dad of three. Anytime dads and or 93 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: moms who were sports fans get to go with young 94 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: kids to games. I just remember, I've talked about this before, 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: but I'm sure you feel the same way. You remember 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: things so much better when you're like eleven, twelve, and 97 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: thirteen whatever, when you get to do super fun things 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: in a way that doesn't resonate the same way for 99 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: whatever reason as when you're twenty three or thirty three 100 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: or whatever, when you become older and more of an adult. 101 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: And so I still remember some of those awesome trips 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: to games that I got to go on when I 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: was eleven or twelve better than I do. You know, 104 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: games that I went to three or four years ago. 105 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: It's really kind of crazy. 106 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: Well, and it's also you know, so I grew up 107 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: with my da, I grew up going to a Caps game. 108 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, I had three brothers, right, So I played sports. 109 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: My whole life was always kind of like you know, 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: the girl that like had a bow in my hair, 111 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: but they would like roll around in the mud and 112 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: like kick soccer balls and throw fo you know that 113 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: kind of thing, but and played sports. But so I 114 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: we grew you know, we went to Caps games with 115 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: my dad growing up, and I remember my brother, my 116 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: older brother. 117 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: And I we saw a drug bust outside of. 118 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: The Caps game and that was we thought it was 119 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: like the coolest, Like that was like the highlight. And 120 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: we came home and like told my mom. My mom 121 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: was like, what that's uh? 122 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: Was that when the cat did the Caps play where 123 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: they do now? Or was it because people forget like 124 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: that arena that they have now used to be in 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: a really rough neighborhood and and then it eventually got 126 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: got pretty nice, but but you know, it was it 127 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: was not a very safe place to be after hours sometimes. 128 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember, honestly, I'm forty. It was so 129 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: long ago. 130 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: But and then also Slapshots signed my cast on the Jombotron, 131 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: and I thought, I was like, that would. 132 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: Be super cool if you could find that video. 133 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, oh, man, like this is 134 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: a big move. Yes, I'm on the jumbo. 135 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: Tron like this it is pretty cool. 136 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: I got my I got my boys on the jumbo 137 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: Tron a couple of times. The Braves to their credit 138 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: during COVID when they wouldn't let anybody in the stadium. 139 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: It was really pretty bad ass. 140 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: They still had kids doing like the Hey, let's you know, 141 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: toss it to the Braves on television. They put it 142 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: on the jumbo tron even though there were no no 143 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: fans there, and they let my son say, Hey, I'm 144 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: you know, Lincoln Travis, this is the Atlanta Braves game 145 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: or whatever, like it's time to play ball. And I 146 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: mean that's pretty badass, yeah, for sure. 147 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: Especially like when you're a kid, it's totally it's and 148 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: like even as an. 149 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Adult, but like you know, when you're a kid, particularly, 150 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: it's like very and you get to like tell all 151 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: your friends at school and it's you know, it's very cool. 152 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: All right. So Clay, Jake Tapper and now it's. 153 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Thompson have this book out about the cover up of 154 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's health. 155 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: Did you know that Joe Biden wasn't doing well? 156 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: I had a sneaky suspicion that I talked about incessantly 157 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: for four straight years on my radio show, as well 158 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: as tweeting videos that I was told were cheap fakes 159 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: and that I was a purveyor of misinformation and disinformation 160 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: for years, as I know you were on top of this. 161 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: Also, and. 162 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: Somehow all of us were able to see what Jake 163 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: Tapper and most of the members of the Washington d C. 164 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: Press Corps were unable to see, which is, Joe Biden 165 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: was not mentally or physically able to do the job 166 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: of President of the United States. 167 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: It's pretty wild to profit off of something that they 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: knew all long. 169 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Yes, getting rewarded for you know, you know, I think 170 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: it's a great point. 171 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: But you know what I think it is, Lisa, like 172 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: even beyond that is he profited in both directions, right, 173 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: because as long as he was helping to prop up 174 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: the weekend at Bernie's presidency of Joe Biden, they. 175 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: Would give him good guests. 176 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: So his an in show in theory got access to 177 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: better news making guests because he was in good standing 178 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: with the Democrat Party, because he was willing to tell 179 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: the lies that were necessary. 180 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: To stay in good standing. 181 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: And as soon as Joe Biden's political career was over, 182 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: and as soon as Kamala Harris lost and there was 183 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: now going to be four years where no one was 184 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: in power in either of those sort of sort of 185 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: the universes, then they could tell the truth and it 186 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: was so eminently predictable that this would happen. I said, 187 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: and I don't know how you would break this down, 188 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: but if you think about villainy, like who's to blame? 189 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: To me, the media is number one. 190 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: And let me tell you why I would make that case, 191 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Because their job. 192 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: Is to speak truth to power. 193 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: I think that they are over and above beyond anybody 194 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: who lied about Joe Biden's physical mental deterioration. Like I 195 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: expect that the people that surround Joe Biden wouldn't say, hey, 196 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: guess what, you know what he's like a shamble of 197 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: the person that he used to be, because that would 198 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: be super disloyal once he was already elected, to sit 199 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: around and lie about him now. So I put media 200 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: number one on the blame chart because their job is 201 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: to challenge and to be adversarial to people in power. 202 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: But the person who's inside of the Biden team, to me, 203 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: it's Jill I mean what one see. I put her 204 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: at two because the reason is and I'll let's let's 205 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: let's talk about this. But I put her at number 206 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: one in the administration because she was clearly aware of 207 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: what was going on but she is not supposed to 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: be adversarial, which is why I have her at number 209 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: one inside of the Biden team. But I think the 210 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: media is worse. And look, I think what she told herself, 211 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: and tell me if you buy this thesis. First of all, 212 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: I think she's not a good person, and I think 213 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: that she should be like severely questioned and blamed about 214 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: all of this. But I think what she told herself 215 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: was she convinced herself that Donald Trump was Hitler and 216 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: that her husband was the only thing that stood between 217 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: Hitler and America descending into Nazi Germany. And we all 218 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: know that's a joke, but I think that's what she 219 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,479 Speaker 3: convinced herself of. And so if that were the choice, 220 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: is Joe Biden, even in a diminished mental and physical state, 221 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: better than Adolf Hitler? In her mind, the answer was 222 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 3: probably yes. And I think she looked around, knew Kamala 223 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: was not up to the job, and said, nobody else 224 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: can beat Trump. Joe might be able to do it. 225 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to help cover up everything about it. 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 4: See. 227 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: I think she's just so fame and power hungry that 228 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: she was willing to sacrifice her husband to public humiliation. 229 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: To get it, and I think you're number. 230 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: I find that's what I think. 231 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: That's a read and that's an argument that's legit too, 232 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: And I buy into a lot of that as well. 233 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: And like I think, if you love your husband, your 234 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: number one job, like if you're a wife and a mom, 235 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: like your number one. 236 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: Job is to protect your family. 237 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and like your number and so if 238 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: you see your husband and that sort of deteriorated state, 239 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to be like, hey, babe, we 240 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: don't need this. 241 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: You know, We've got enough money. Like life's good. 242 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: Go do speeches, write books, Let's go. You know, we 243 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: can go spend all the time on the beach, adult 244 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: like whatever, right, Like let's rite off in the sunset, 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, Like I agree with you, leg see as 246 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: it is. 247 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: You know, I talked to my wife a couple of 248 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: years ago. I mean this goes to how much we 249 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: talked about it, not only in on the show but 250 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: also privately, and I said, hey, I do three hours 251 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: a day of radio. I'm forty six. Hopefully I've got, 252 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: you know, thirty years of being fairly solid mentally still 253 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: to go. But I said, you're going to notice if 254 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: I start to deteriorate as all spouse's due before probably 255 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: most people in public will because think about it. I mean, 256 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: this was the argument I made Lisa for why it 257 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: had to be so much worse behind closed doors. We 258 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: only saw Joe Biden about five percent of the day, 259 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: and they were doing everything they. 260 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: Could to make him look. 261 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: The best that they possibly could, and it was still 262 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: an awful look. And so I told her, I said, look, 263 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 3: imagine what's going on behind closed doors. I said, look, 264 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 3: we're in a good spot, like I'm not going to 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: need to work to you know, we'll have enough money, 266 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: like we can, to your point, go hang out at 267 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: the beach or whatever else. But if you start to 268 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: see that I have completely lost my fastball. Tell me, 269 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: like sit down with me and say, hey, I think 270 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: it's time. 271 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: To hang it up. 272 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: And I had that conversation because I watched what was 273 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: going on with Joe Biden, and I don't ever want 274 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: to be in public a shell of the person because 275 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: we have kind of public jobs that I had been before. 276 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like and you should yeah, and your wife 277 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: is the person who was like supposed, you know, supposed 278 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: to have your back on that, which I know your 279 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: wife would, but clearly Joe Biden, you know, was more 280 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: interested in being able to fly in Air Force one 281 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: and you know, having all the power and the fame, 282 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: and he. 283 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: May have been, Lisa. 284 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: Here's the question that nobody's taken the next step too, 285 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: if Joe Biden is clearly and I know this is 286 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: a question we asked, but I haven't heard very many 287 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: people in the legacy media asking this, if he's unable 288 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,119 Speaker 3: to do the job of president, which at a minimum 289 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: he was certainly not able to do the job twenty 290 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: three and twenty four. 291 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: Who was actually making all. 292 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: The incredibly difficult decisions that the president has to make? 293 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: Was it Jill? I mean, look at him on the vote. 294 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: I think she's smart enough, like, well know, yeah. 295 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: Also, here's the thing too, like they're so dumb, Like 296 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I saw the quote from David Pluff saying that, you know, 297 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden totally fed them. Obviously he was an advisor 298 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: for Kamala and then also for Obama in two thousand 299 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: and eight. 300 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: You're an idiot, David, like like Pluff, No, he did not. 301 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: He helped you the longer Kamala Harris would have been 302 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: in that race. Those numbers would have looked even worse 303 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: for her. He did them a favor by dropping out late, 304 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: and then also beyond that, he screwed them. 305 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: By picking her as the VP. 306 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: That's when he fed them over because they were stuck 307 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: with the first female, first black vice president. They were 308 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: never getting rid of her because they're the party DEI. 309 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: So that's when he screwed them. 310 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: If they had a viable alternative, then you know, maybe 311 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: they would have done better. But you know, it's like 312 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: they still don't understand it. 313 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: No, you're right. 314 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the longer Kamala had to be the rest 315 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: of the nominee, the worst I think it would have 316 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: gone for her. And remember they tried to hide her too. 317 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: They tried to echo the Joe Biden twenty twenty campaign, 318 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: except they had COVID as an excuse then so they 319 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: could limit his interaction. But they spent a billion and 320 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: a half dollars in three months and Kabala lost ground 321 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: in all fifty states. 322 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: Think about how crazy that. 323 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: Is if you they spent way more money than the 324 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: Trump team. The Trump team has said, hey, if we 325 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: had Kamala money, and it maybe well true, they said, hey, 326 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: we want have won New Jersey and we would have 327 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: won Virginia. 328 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: They lost both those states, I. 329 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: Think by five, but they just didn't have the resources 330 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: to be able to pour into as many states as 331 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Kamala did. And if they had had her money, if 332 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: they've been able to outspend Kamala, they think that they 333 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: would have been able to run up the margin even more. 334 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's probably going to go down as one of 335 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: the worst presidential candidates and history, certainly in modern politics. 336 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about. 337 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: This Middle East tour are a colleague from Fox, Trae 338 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Inks tweeted, there is a massive momentum shift happening right 339 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: now in the Middle East, real opportunities for peace and diplomacy. Obviously, 340 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: this comes as the president's been in the Middle East. 341 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, we know that he got the Abraham Cords 342 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: done during his first term. Why do you think that 343 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: President Trump is able and can broke her peace where 344 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: other presidents have failed? 345 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: Because I think he focuses on the deal more than 346 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: he focuses on the politics surrounding the deal, and I 347 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: don't think that gets talked about enough. Ultimately, Trump is 348 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: and has spent most of his career negotiating deals and 349 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: you know this because you've been around him. He's actually 350 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: an incredibly likable guy face to face. And I think 351 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: so much of these deals with foreign leaders come down 352 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: to a large extent to personal relationships because there's so 353 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: many different moving parts, there's so many subsidiary individuals involved. 354 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: Ultimately, when you're doing a. 355 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: Deal with somebody, it comes down to do you trust 356 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: the primary principal person on the other side of the table. 357 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: And also maybe do you like him? 358 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: And so I think Trump understands and respects the Saudi, 359 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: the UAE, and the Katar individuals who are super strong. 360 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: Business people, right. 361 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: I think you strip away everything else. Business people speak 362 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: a common language, and I think they connect on hey, 363 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: let's figure out ways to make money. 364 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 4: We're capitalists. 365 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: And I think Trump respects that and so I think 366 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: that works on that level. And then also I think 367 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: he's not hamstrung by what people said in the past, 368 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: because Trump, uniquely for a politician, is not a grudge guy. 369 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Jade Vance compared him to Hitler and. 370 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: He's the VP. Right. 371 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: There are a lot of people in politics who if 372 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: you've ever said anything negative about them, they remember it 373 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 3: for the rest of their career. Trump is transactional in 374 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: the sense that he may say something bad about you, 375 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: you may say something bad about him, but when it 376 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: comes time to get a deal done, he's willing to 377 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: sit across the table from you and hammer out a deal. 378 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: So I think it's being willing to reject all of 379 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 3: the past history and just focus on, Hey, do I 380 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: trust these individuals? Are they business people? And typically what 381 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: do business people want? They want to create environments where 382 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: where money is made, where is more money usually made. 383 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Usually it's in peace. It's not in war unless you're 384 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: a defense contractor. And so I think all of that 385 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: factors together and I'm cautiously optimistic that Trump may be 386 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: able to solve some of the issues in the Middle 387 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: East and make it a safer, healthier place to do 388 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: business and live. I also think Lisa Trump is not 389 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: all in on having some sort of religious aspect to this, 390 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 3: and that might sound a little bit controversial to some people, 391 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: But when you're talking about the Jews and you're talking 392 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: about the Muslims in the Middle East, I don't think 393 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: Trump has some strong affiliation with either the Jewish faith 394 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: or the Muslim faith such that he feels like he 395 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: has to make a choice on a religious basis. I 396 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: think he's focused more on the business side than the 397 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: religious element. And given the fact that you toss in 398 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: typically a Christian president from the United States, you've got 399 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: three different religions and sometimes pulling in three different ways. 400 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: And I think Trump is more focused on the commerce 401 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: and the business side than the religious aspects, which I 402 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: think is helpful. 403 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's also interesting because you know, he was able 404 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: to improve his numbers with both Jewish voters and totally 405 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: with you know, Muslim voters as well. 406 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: We've got more with Clay Travis. 407 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: But first I want to change gears for just a 408 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: moment and talk about Israel. It's now the month of May, 409 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: and eighty years ago this very month, the horror of 410 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: the Holocaust, the final Solution came to an end. But 411 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: did you know that half of all Holocaust survivors live 412 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: in Israel. The pain of the past is now intensified 413 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: today by October seventh and the rise of anti Semitism everywhere, 414 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: and along with other elderly Jews, thousands in Israel live 415 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: below the poverty line. 416 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: There's no safety net. 417 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: That's why I support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 418 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: The Fellowship provides a lifeline to those precious ones in 419 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: the form of hot meals and boxes full of healthy food. 420 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: And for only twenty five dollars you can help provide 421 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: a food box. Better yet, three hundred and thirty five 422 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: dollars provides hot meals for an entire year. To give 423 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: generously call eight eight eight four a eight IFDJ eight 424 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: eight eight four A eight four three two five, or 425 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: you can also go online to give at IFDJ dot org. 426 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: That's IFDJ dot org. There was a line from his 427 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: speech in Saudi Arabia that I thought was great where 428 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: he said that he wanted to forge a future where 429 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: the Middle East is defined by commerce, not chaos. Sort 430 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: of your point, and I think what's really interesting about him, 431 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: and I'd love your input on this, is how he 432 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: sees these economic deals as a means to national security. 433 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Like this understanding that if you're in business together, there's 434 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: this mutual desire for stability in the region and sort 435 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: of tying those two together that's. 436 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: Really unique to his background as a business guy. You know, 437 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 2: what do you think about that? 438 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: I think it's totally true, and you know, I'm an 439 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: old school history nerd, you know, with the number one 440 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: way that kingdoms used to align themselves in old history 441 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: historical terms, to try to avoid or they would marry 442 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: their sons and daughters to each other. And and it 443 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: doesn't get talked about that much anymore, but the goal 444 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: to try to keep France. So yeah, you need, yeah, 445 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: maybe there's a maybe there's a kingdom you can be you. 446 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: Can be buried off, you know, principles. 447 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny, but we don't think about 448 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: it as much now, but it actually does make a 449 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: lot of sense, right because they would say, well, if 450 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: your grandson is going to end up being the king 451 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: of France, you're probably less likely to invade if you're 452 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: in charge of England or vice versa. 453 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: Right, just to use some of the examples there. 454 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: And the commerce example, I would say is some form 455 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: of a modern business relation relationship. Those were business relationships 456 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: and they were political in nature, but the idea was 457 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: you both had something to lose and something dear to 458 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: you that mattered, and in a capitalistic context, you know, 459 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: before the era really kind of fell apart, Thomas Friedman 460 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: had a theory which was super interesting, and it was 461 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: two countries that had a McDonald's, had never gone to 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: war before, and it was using McDonald's as sort of 463 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: a metaphor for global connection and a common language that 464 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: you could speak. Now it has ended since, but I 465 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: do think that Trump looking at it from the commerce 466 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: perspective is more likely to be able to speak a 467 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: common language than people trying to look at it through 468 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: the prism of maybe religion or geopolitical history. And you know, 469 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: I was in Israel in December. I don't know if 470 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: you've been to Israel. I'd never been before, le not. 471 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go, Okay, so. 472 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: It's an amazing trip. 473 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: And what stood out to me when I was walking 474 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: through the Old City of Jerusalem is the incredibly important 475 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: site of the Muslim faith, the Christian faith, and the 476 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 3: Jewish faith are all like two hundred yards apart. So 477 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, we have this huge global world now, but 478 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: basically the three religions that are constantly at each other's 479 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: throats over the last thousand years or beyond are all 480 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: within just a few hundred yards of each other in 481 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: this cradle of civilization, cradle of religion, in the Old 482 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: City of Jerusalem. 483 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: And the reason why I bring it up is. 484 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: It was amazing to see it in person and think 485 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: about how much passion, how much emotion, how much raw raw, 486 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 3: just spirituality is embedded in such a close area, and 487 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 3: then getting people to change their minds about that in 488 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: any way when you've got the afterlife and everlasting at 489 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: times disagreement, I don't know that you can solve a 490 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: religious issue leading with religion, And so I think leading 491 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: with commerce actually allows there to be a common language 492 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: in a way that is different than it would be 493 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: if you are looking at it through the prism of well, 494 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 3: this is the Jewish faith's land, this is the Muslim 495 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: faith's land, this is where the Christians are. And I 496 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: think Trump is doing that and I think it allows 497 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: him to speak a common language without having to trod 498 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: on thousands of years of historical rancor. 499 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: And I think that's unique about him. 500 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: Well, also, like I was just thinking about this, you 501 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: have these cultures too, where like, you know, the men 502 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: are very much men, you know, and you can or 503 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously there's abuse and things that aren't 504 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: that great, but you know, point being is, you know, 505 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of these you know, cultures where 506 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: like the men are men, and like Trump's a man 507 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: right in a way that Biden wasn't and Obama was not, 508 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: And so I'm sure there's probably like a respect there where, 509 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: you know, Trump's the successful business guy, he's very masculine. 510 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: Think about this, Lisa. It's a good analogy. 511 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: What has Saudi Arabia done to try to ingratiate itself 512 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: with the larger world. They've brought WWE AKA wrestling, They've 513 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: brought major combat sports UFC and boxing to the kingdom, 514 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: and certainly Katar we saw with the World Cup in 515 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. Am I right about that? I think 516 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: I am. And you look at all of these different 517 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: setups that have happened, and I think they connect on 518 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: sports too, and sports is certainly a world of commerce. 519 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: It's also another common language. You and I started off 520 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: talking about, you know, the University of Tennessee football. If 521 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: you're walking around in the South and you go into 522 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 3: a meeting I live in Nashville, one of the things, 523 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: as you could probably most talk about with people in 524 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: that meeting is college football before you start talking about 525 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: other things. And when you establish in some way a 526 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: commonality of language, it can sometimes be disarming in terms 527 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: of trying to negotiate about something more significant. 528 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: We've got to take a quick commercial break. 529 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: But first, When a mother with an unplanned pregnancy is 530 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: deciding about the future of her unborn child, it's overwhelming. 531 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: She wants to make the right choice, but society and 532 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: those around her are telling her that that baby is 533 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: not a life. 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You know, we've seen recent news obviously with 548 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: the deal with the UK, and then also some movement 549 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: with China as well. Clearly there was a moment of 550 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: absolute freak out with the media and a lot of people. 551 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: What do you think people will say about the tariffs 552 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: at the end of his term, at the end of 553 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: his administration. 554 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, hindsight will be twenty twenty, if the 555 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: stock market is doing well, if unemployment is low, if 556 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: inflation is low. I think they'll say Trump tried to 557 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: address something that is a major issue, and most politicians 558 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: talk a big game and then avoid making difficult decisions. 559 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: And I would say, Lisa, there are three things that 560 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: Trump is trying to address in a relatively short period 561 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: of time that most politicians would shy from, a shy 562 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: away from. One is the border and immigration policy, which 563 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: is broken, and a lot of people talk a big 564 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: game and then they get in and they don't want 565 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: to change anything because it's politically difficult. Another is politics 566 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: of trade, the trade imbalances and the issues that have 567 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 3: grown and become bigger and bigger in the generation as 568 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 3: China has come on the world stage. And I would 569 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: say the third is the budget. And so if you 570 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: look at Trump in the first one hundred and twenty 571 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: one hundred. 572 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: And fifty days. 573 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: He went after the budget with Doge in a way 574 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: that we've never seen before. He aggressively went after immigration, 575 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: shut down the southern border. It doesn't get talked about 576 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: at all now, but he basically made it the most 577 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: secure it's ever been in our nation's history, and then 578 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: tried to go about getting out. I asked Tom Home 579 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: and he says, there's twenty million illegals. He's trying to 580 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: get the twenty million illegals, certainly the most violent among them, out. 581 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: As rapidly as he can. 582 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: And he's also trying to fix generational trade imbalances. 583 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: And those are all. 584 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: Three things that politicians talk about in campaigns and usually 585 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: get into an office and avoid because it's hard to 586 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: change systemic structural issues that have become a major hindrance 587 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: for the nation. 588 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: And I think Trump. 589 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: Sees it as this is his opportunity to get things 590 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: done in the first two years, and he's going to 591 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: move fast and break things. 592 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: And before we go. 593 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Since we started with sports, we'll end with sports as well. 594 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to get your. 595 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: Take on the NIL deals in college athletics. We've seen 596 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: people like former Alabama coach Nick Saban talk about how, 597 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, he's worried about how it's impacting college athletics, 598 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, arguing that there's sort of this lack of 599 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: competitive balance with some schools being able to spend significantly 600 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: more on an A NIL deals than others, and that 601 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: this disparity is creating an unequal playing field. These club 602 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: for Congress to act to make it equal across the board, 603 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: and even ask for President Trump to step in. Do 604 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: they have a role in this and how has ANIL 605 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: changed college sports? 606 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: Okay, so, first of all, NIL is a broad category NIL. 607 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know Olivia Done. She's now 608 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: former LSU gymnast. She's going to be on the cover 609 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue, really good looking, super 610 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: popular on social media. What she does is actually in IL. 611 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: She gets deals with and you're probably going to know 612 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: these brands better than me as a vr A. 613 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: It's you know, likes, she's. 614 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: Wearing the different the gear and she's advertising for them. 615 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: That is in IL. Right. 616 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: If you've got a Windy sponsorship, that's in IL, name, 617 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: image and likeness, If you sold your autograph, that's in IL. 618 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: What really NIL has become. What Livy done and Olivia 619 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: done at LSU has done is INIL. What has been 620 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: classified as in IL is actually just pay for play, 621 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: which is, Hey, I want you to play quarterback for me. 622 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you three million dollars. Hey, I 623 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: want you to play linebacker, wide receiver, defensive back, whatever 624 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: it is. Here's step one hundred thousand dollars. And so 625 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: the game of college sports is dedicated from a popularity 626 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: perspective on the competition itself. At least I've argued for 627 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: a long time, sports is the only business I can 628 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: think of where you don't want to put the team 629 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: that you compete against out of business. Right Like, if 630 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: I run Walmart, I wanted kmart to go into the ground, 631 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: I want Target to go bankrupt. If I'm at McDonald's, 632 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: I want Wendy's and Burger King to go bankrupt because 633 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: I'm kicking. 634 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: Their ass so much. 635 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: In sports, if you're too dominant, then people don't watch 636 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: as much. The competition is actually the business. And so 637 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: what Nick Saban is getting to and what a lot 638 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: of these guys are sitting around and talking about, is well, 639 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: the reason salary caps exist in the NBA, in the NFL, 640 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: in the NHL soccer in the United States is because 641 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: otherwise the richest guy just buys all the best players 642 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: and the competition is not as good. And the concern 643 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: right now in sports is the richest schools are just 644 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: going to go get all the best players, and the 645 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: overall quality of competition is going to collapse because if 646 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: I have one hundred million dollars to spend on my 647 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: team and you only have five million, or vice versa, 648 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: you should kick my ass all the time because your 649 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: players are going to be way better than mine. And 650 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: so they're trying to restore some form of competitive balance 651 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: in a new world where suddenly players can be paid 652 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: with something other than college scholarships to attend schools that 653 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: makes sense. 654 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: Do you think Congress or President Trump would get involved. 655 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: Well, so, I think what they should do is if 656 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: they could give an anti trust exemption. 657 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: And this is getting into the weeds a little. 658 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: Bit, but right now, every time somebody tries to restrict 659 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: compensation for players, the players sue and say, well, you 660 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: guys can't all come together and restrict how much I 661 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: make because there is no collective bargaining agreement. 662 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: And again getting in the weeds a little bit. 663 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: The only reason, say, Lebron James can't sue the NBA 664 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: because he's been underpaid during his tenure is because there's 665 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: a collective bargaining agreement. And what it really does is 666 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: keep the best players from making as much as they 667 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 3: otherwise would, but it elevates the lower tier players so 668 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: that they make more. It's kind of the purpose of 669 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 3: a union in general, right, that's what the players union does. 670 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: There is no players union in college athletics. So if 671 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: they could say, hey, there's no antitrust violations, then all 672 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: these schools can get together and say, hey, everybody's going 673 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: to have the same budget. Each of you gets twenty 674 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: million dollars to pay on play pay players. People still 675 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: do well, but you don't get into a situation where 676 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 3: what I think is inevitable is a billionaire. You know 677 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: Tim Cook went to Auburn, right, he's the CEO of Apple. 678 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: If Tim Cook decided, hey, I'm going to give a 679 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: billion dollars to Auburn, they would get the best players 680 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: every year. And it might be good if you're an 681 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: Auburn fan, But if you're an Alabama fan, or if 682 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: you're a Tennessee fan, or if you're an LSU fan 683 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: or Georgia somebody that's playing Auburn many years and competing 684 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: with them in many sports, well that's not very fair 685 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: because they're always going to have the best players. We want, 686 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 3: I think a competitive playing field. But where it comes 687 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: down to how good are your coaches, how good are 688 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: your recruiting, how well are you developing players? Not simply 689 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: can you go pay the most money to get the 690 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 3: best players. Then it devalues the overall competition and people 691 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 3: in theory are going to care less. 692 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: Claid Travis, I think we solve the world's problems. I 693 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: hope always great to have you on, Always smart and interesting. 694 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: Pop to run into you soon. Ron Fox, appreciate you 695 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: making the time. 696 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: Clay, no doubt you keep up the good work. I'm 697 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: always impressed how well you do too. And Govalls, Oh. 698 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: It's Claid Travis. Appreciate him for making the time come 699 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: on the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening 700 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the 701 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: week until next time.