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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, I want to welcome you to next chapter.

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Speaker 2: I am TD Jake's and I am very, very very

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Speaker 2: That's a strange mix. We're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about none of my longtime friend, doctor Carolyn Lee.

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Speaker 2: Chapter number one, From South Africa to America. We got

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Speaker 1: activate or not. So what happens to you want into

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Speaker 1: a family, and we have nurture which is our parenting

433
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Speaker 1: and so on. We have environment, which is whatever you expose.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a long history in your family

435
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Speaker 1: as well, and you've spoken about this often. So there's

436
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Speaker 1: all the nature. There's the nature that comes through, but

437
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Speaker 1: natures dominated by nurture, and nurtures dominated by I factor

438
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Speaker 1: you your mind. So you can have two people in

439
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Speaker 1: the same environment with the same exposure. One lands up

440
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Speaker 1: going on drugs or getting addicted or really falling apart

441
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and the other one succeeds. Same genetics have

442
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Speaker 1: come through that each is each person's unique. So the

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Speaker 1: dominant force. When something passes through the generations is think

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Speaker 1: of whatever passes through it's an actual genetic code, protein network,

445
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Speaker 1: or coded with DNA, but it's sealed up, creating a propensity,

446
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Speaker 1: a potential. It's going to be activated if I don't

447
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Speaker 1: activate it. I can know that this is a history

448
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Speaker 1: in my family, but it's not going to effect me.

449
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: I can activate it and say, oh, I don't want

450
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Speaker 1: to see my life, and I can change it. I can.

451
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget it because your history is part of

452
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Speaker 1: your history, but you can change what it looks like

453
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Speaker 1: inside of you. That is the power in the mind.

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Speaker 1: That is the power of choice, free will, the public

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Speaker 1: God has given us.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that really hastounds me is that

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Speaker 2: you go back to the Holocaust or slavery or things

458
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Speaker 2: like that. You may not have experienced it directly, but

459
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Speaker 2: your body has been wired in such a way that

460
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Speaker 2: you respond to things differently because of it. So the

461
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Speaker 2: sense of the father passing on to the son. A

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Speaker 2: lot of the things that we're dealing with are not

463
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Speaker 2: our own excuse me, I are not our own problem,

464
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Speaker 2: but problems that preceded us generating exactly it.

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Speaker 1: It passed down to exactly. And that's that's what trauma is.

466
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Speaker 1: So trauma is these things that pass through so they

467
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Speaker 1: they actual networks inside your physical body. But they and

468
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Speaker 1: and they do create an inclination. So there's an It's

469
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Speaker 1: like someone who hasn't been through what you've been through,

470
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Speaker 1: whatever what I've been through, they will hear about something that,

471
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Speaker 1: oh that's bad. It'll touch them, but that doesn't affect

472
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Speaker 1: you like it affects you. So if you've got whatever

473
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Speaker 1: history in your family, if you've lost a loved one

474
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Speaker 1: or whatever, it's if someone hasn't lost the love one

475
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Speaker 1: through some sort of trauma, they they won't react in

476
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Speaker 1: quite the same way. So, yes, the propensity, the inclination,

477
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Speaker 1: the knowledge is there because and that's where we need

478
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Speaker 1: to go to the mind again, we need to go

479
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Speaker 1: to the levels of the mind. And this is this

480
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Speaker 1: is fascinating. Can I dive into it? Can I dive

481
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Speaker 1: into them? To the mind? Can I take you deep

482
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Speaker 1: into the mind, Because it's going to really answer that question,

483
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Speaker 1: is it okay? So if you think the ease, I'm

484
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Speaker 1: going to give you a visual. So think of the

485
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Speaker 1: mind as this all around you and through you. The

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Speaker 1: fact that if we and ekd on your heart right now,

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Speaker 1: and so your heart beating, it's because of your mind.

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Speaker 1: If you were physically dead, the heart wouldn't beat anymore

489
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Speaker 1: because but that's because the mind has moved out to

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Speaker 1: it animates. Okay, so that's now in the circle. The

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Speaker 1: outer room of the circle of mind is your consciousness.

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Speaker 1: That's awake when you're awake. It's awake. Now, we're both awake.

493
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Speaker 1: We're talking, we connecting and communicating. It's the smallest part

494
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Speaker 1: of your mind. It's your workhoorse. It's things, fills and choosers.

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Speaker 1: It's not designed to work alone. It has logic, it

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Speaker 1: has very limited wisdom, but it's not designed to work alone.

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Speaker 1: Hold on to that thought. Then the bulk of who

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Speaker 1: I am, the depths of the circle. That is not

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Speaker 1: just a room. It's actually this three D infinite, present,

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Speaker 1: past and future, swirling mass of power that is on

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Speaker 1: non conscious and not unconscious or non conscious. That is

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Speaker 1: your spirit level. That is the level of wisdom. That

503
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Speaker 1: is where we have our intelligence or logic or creativity

504
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Speaker 1: or imagination or intuitional inside. It's the most important part

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Speaker 1: of us. It is the part of us that is

506
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Speaker 1: literally perfect, made in God's image, connected to the source

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Speaker 1: of wisdom. Wisdom has to speak to wisdom, depth has

508
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Speaker 1: to speak to death, whatever you want it. So therefore

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Speaker 1: our conscious mind can't handle that level of power. So

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Speaker 1: there's this powerful part of us, and then there's this

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Speaker 1: outer part. So in between there's the subconscious. So the

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Speaker 1: thull circles the outer room is the conscious mind. The

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Speaker 1: biggest part is this non conscious worthing mass where every

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Speaker 1: experience we've ever had, good, bad and ugly, plus all

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Speaker 1: the solutions. Because we know everything, we can handle everything.

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Speaker 1: We just have to work to find it. We have wisdom,

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Speaker 1: we will have to release it, which is.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason that I think that we do

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Speaker 2: ourselves an injustice when we repaint history, because when you

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Speaker 2: repaint history, you can't trace back to why I'm reacting

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Speaker 2: to certain things a certain way, or why I feel

522
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Speaker 2: the way that I do, why certain people will make

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Speaker 2: me a freid, why I have a propensity to react

524
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Speaker 2: violently in certain circumstances. You can you can wipe it

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Speaker 2: out of the books, but you can't wipe it out

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Speaker 2: of the epigenics. It's still there.

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Speaker 1: It's still that's in you, It's in your non conscious.

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Speaker 1: So your non conscious mind has the core for you are,

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Speaker 1: but the core for you are is perfect. Then we

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Speaker 1: have life experiences and we have genetics, So think of

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Speaker 1: the core that's wildly prison past and future. Doesn't that

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Speaker 1: God is beyond race sometimes or nonconscious is beyond face sometimes,

533
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Speaker 1: so correctly our history, the genetics that have epigenetics that

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Speaker 1: have come through as genetic traits, et cetera. That's all

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Speaker 1: on unconscious in this energy field. And it's doo scientific

536
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Speaker 1: and science is spiritual, two signs of the same coin.

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Speaker 1: And then that's so powerful and we have to be

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Speaker 1: able to utilize that. So if we just operate and unconsciously,

539
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Speaker 1: which so many people are. When you look around and

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Speaker 1: see the hatred and the racism and the arguments and

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Speaker 1: what's going on in our world and has gone on

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Speaker 1: for since the beginning of time, that is man operating

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Speaker 1: only in the conscious level. That is man operating without

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Speaker 1: tapping into wisdom. And what we're supposed to do is

545
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Speaker 1: tap into wisdom, but we can't directly tap in because

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Speaker 1: it's too powerful. If your non conscious mind or or

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Speaker 1: the mind of God connected entereddew, you would explode in

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Speaker 1: a coatrillion pieces because it's just too powerful. So we

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Speaker 1: have to filter. So we have a subconscious which is

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Speaker 1: a middle layer, and that subconscious filters and slows down

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Speaker 1: all this power of the present, pass in future, the

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Speaker 1: were good, the bad, and the ugly, the solutions and

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Speaker 1: every and slows it down. My coming to this history epigenetics,

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Speaker 1: So people got these things have come through the generations.

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Speaker 1: That's in the non conscious, and it's and as a

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Speaker 1: child is conceived, it passes into the genetics. But it's

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Speaker 1: as I said, it's it's like a sealed up until

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Speaker 1: it's activated. Now, if we operate just in our conscious

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Speaker 1: mind and we nurture in a certain environment, and we

560
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: don't constantly tap into wisdom because not only do we

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Speaker 1: have that inside of our unconscious, what's happened over the generations,

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Speaker 1: plus our own life experiences, all of this mass think

563
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Speaker 1: of a huge forest of trees. But for every toxic experience,

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Speaker 1: and Bishop Blake, this is one of the most powerful

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Speaker 1: things I'm going to say today. For every toxic experience

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Speaker 1: we have, we have multiple solutions immediately generated. That's wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Wisdom is never just the problem, it's always the solutions.

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Speaker 1: So if you think of a toxic looking ugly tree

569
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Speaker 1: in a forest, and then you think of immediately as

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Speaker 1: soon as that builds, that's a toxic experience, immediately sprouting

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Speaker 1: up around it. Or all these solutions, what we have

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Speaker 1: to do as humans is learn how to tap in

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Speaker 1: and find that best solution and grow that solution and

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Speaker 1: bring that into our life.

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Speaker 2: Chapter number five, Healing, Forgiveness and breaking toxic cycles. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you start talking, I keep VISI your life, the

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Speaker 2: movie The Matrix, you know. Yeah, And so if the

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Speaker 2: solution is within us, we have to make a conscious choice, yes,

579
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Speaker 2: to search for solutions rather than to bathe in dysfunction exactly,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I don't think that we have learned

581
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Speaker 2: to search for solutions because you have to admit that

582
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Speaker 2: you are wrong in order to correct it. And we

583
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Speaker 2: have a tendency to self justify our behavior by relaboring, renaming, repainting,

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Speaker 2: expunging from our history the things that are distasteful when

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Speaker 2: we are to be doing just so opposite, looking directly

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Speaker 2: at it and seeing what it is and then develop

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Speaker 2: a solution.

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Speaker 1: For it, exactly. And the solutions of this what we

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Speaker 1: show from the research, what we show from more instinct

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Speaker 1: is that when you've had a problem and you've found

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Speaker 1: the solution that's been inside of you, when someone comes

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Speaker 1: to you with a problem, you can help them. Be

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Speaker 1: very good at help. We've got the wisdom what we

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Speaker 1: what we're doing in our world is and as humans,

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Speaker 1: exactly the things you're saying, justifying, numbing, blaming, victimizing. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that if someone's abused you that that's okay.

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00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: It's not okay. We all know that's not okay. But

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Speaker 1: that is an experience you've had, and it's inside of you,

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Speaker 1: and it's never going to go away. But it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's wired in in this very toxic, ugly way, so

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Speaker 1: it's always ugly rain cloud and ugly trees and ugly hedges.

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Speaker 1: Think of well, but it doesn't have to stay that.

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Speaker 1: What next If we just bathe in that and we

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Speaker 1: just justify and hate and blame, and that's not going

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Speaker 1: to help us. It gets worse. Whatever you think about

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Speaker 1: the most will grow and become more toxic and increase

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Speaker 1: your chances of getting illness in your physical body because

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Speaker 1: you're hammering and batching a physical body that can't handle it.

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Speaker 1: So you will be more vulnerable. What we have to

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Speaker 1: do is make the choice to get into the garden

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Speaker 1: of g I use it analogy. We have to face

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Speaker 1: the pain Jesus modeled for us exactly how we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be managing our minds. Get in the garden, face

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Speaker 1: the stuff. Deal. You're going to cry, scream, sweat, blood,

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Speaker 1: You're going to go through it all. But that's part

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Speaker 1: of the healing process. There's a movement forward in the garden.

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Speaker 1: There's a processing forward. Eventually, it gets worse before it

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Speaker 1: gets better. And I've done research showing that there's a

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Speaker 1: whole healing journey and cycles of sixty three days and

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Speaker 1: it's up and down. Things do get worse, but they

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Speaker 1: do get better. Then you will rise with the wounds

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Speaker 1: in your hands. And that's what we're not doing enough

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Speaker 1: of what we're doing in our world. Today's the pain starts.

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Speaker 1: Let's numb it with the medication. Let's get a diagnosis,

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Speaker 1: let's label, let's fight, let's blame, let's arguely throw stones

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Speaker 1: instead of saying, let's cry together, let's face this together.

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Speaker 1: That's what loves well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so good because throughout history, wherever there's

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Speaker 2: mass killings. It is because we blame somebody else for

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Speaker 2: a problem that we had on the inside. And it's

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Speaker 2: so easy to point at someone out or something else

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Speaker 2: and make it the villain. And even if you have

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Speaker 2: had traumatic experiences to happen in your life. And I

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Speaker 2: believe in therapy, I think therapy is wonderful. It's a

635
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Speaker 2: great thing. But if all we do in therapy is

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Speaker 2: name the condition and don't go further into curing the

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Speaker 2: condition and finish the whole process, then the name just

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Speaker 2: becomes justification for me to continue to act out. You know,

639
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Speaker 2: I'm bipolar, so expect that from me. We have to

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Speaker 2: go pass that into a place of wholeness and healing

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Speaker 2: and deliverance. You agree with.

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Speaker 1: That, oh totally, you know I'm saying it and a

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Speaker 1: god goosebumps. You actually totally scientifically and science and this

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Speaker 1: I quickly want to say, the science and spirituality to

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Speaker 1: science are the same coin. The word science comes from

646
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: word scleury, which means knowledge. God is the source ofble knowledge.

647
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: So science is simply how we understand everything about us

648
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: live humans, et cetera, how the earthworks, et cetera. So

649
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that people understand that,

650
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Speaker 1: so we when I say scientifically, two signs of the

651
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: same coin. So essentially, when you go through a trauma,

652
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: that experience gets wide and all the way. I just

653
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Speaker 1: explained that it comes in the non conscious mind grabs

654
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Speaker 1: that if its proceeds, puts it into the subconscious, into

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Speaker 1: the body, into the brain, and it's now a network.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got to start you right here because

657
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: I really want to nail this in. People think that

658
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Speaker 2: science and spirituality are opposites and opposing each other and

659
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Speaker 2: then turn around and call God omniscient. And the root

660
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: word for omniscient is science. So yeah, so the two

661
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Speaker 2: can be they can be congruent one with the other.

662
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Speaker 2: The problem is sometimes the people who introduce the science

663
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Speaker 2: do it without acknowledging the spirituality. But you have chosen

664
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Speaker 2: to walk down the path with both science and spirituality

665
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Speaker 2: because you understand omniscience relate in the ship between one

666
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Speaker 2: and the other. Am I right about oh?

667
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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Since the beginning of my career, it's been the

668
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: most logical thing. You can't separate them. Sciences spirituality two

669
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Speaker 1: sides of the same coin. I have my most spiritual

670
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Speaker 1: moments when I'm doing research when i'm because what am

671
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: I doing. I'm looking at knowledge, I'm looking at omniscience.

672
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking Oh wow, that's how this works. You can

673
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: see how passionate I am about this whole mind stuff

674
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: when I know when I've seen with my clients, my patients, myself, people,

675
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: the millions that we reach. When you get a handle

676
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: on what your non conscious mind, your wisdom, how your

677
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: mind works, you start seeing and it's all scientific when

678
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: you get the handle on, because I'm telling you sciencey stuff,

679
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: but it's totally spiritual. I'm teaching you non conscious mind

680
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: is to a spirit level. So non conscious is the

681
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Speaker 1: scientific word. We can give all the science, the theories,

682
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Speaker 1: these clinical trials showing that. So sciences spirituality are one

683
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: and the same thing, with two sides of the same coin.

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Speaker 1: So science is the how to how does it all work?

685
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Speaker 1: Chanity is the more philosophical. This is what it kind

686
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Speaker 1: of shows up like in our life and how it

687
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Speaker 1: makes us feel and the impact of life on us.

688
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Speaker 2: I think that's what the writer meant when he said

689
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Speaker 2: that we're fearfully and marvelously made. On one hand, he

690
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Speaker 2: is getting into the how too, and studying the chromosomes

691
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Speaker 2: or whatever it is that he's studying, but he's also

692
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: tying it back to the higher power of God that

693
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Speaker 2: it enabled that to be. I'm fearfully and marvelously made.

694
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Speaker 2: That didn't just happen, I just didn't grow like mold

695
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Speaker 2: on a wall. That it was made to happen. In

696
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: that God is the author and the finisher of everything

697
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: that exists, and by him all things consist. And to

698
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Speaker 2: find both in one person is a bit of a novelty,

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Speaker 2: because I think some scientists who do have faith are

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Speaker 2: ashamed to openly proclaim their faith. You know how Apostle

701
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Speaker 2: Paul was laughed at. Though he was brilliant, spoken multiple languages,

702
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: his peers resented the fact that he had faith as well.

703
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Speaker 2: And sometimes it takes courage in a room full of

704
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Speaker 2: scientists to introduce faith, and it takes courage in a

705
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Speaker 2: room full of faith feeled people to introduce science, because

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Speaker 2: we come back at the scientists with simple answers and

707
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Speaker 2: scriptures that negate everything. Some of the comments that you

708
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Speaker 2: get back, you know, from people who don't go through

709
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Speaker 2: the trouble of processing what they just heard and thinking

710
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Speaker 2: about it with an openness of mind. And I think

711
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Speaker 2: That's why I keep going back to the matrix. Did

712
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Speaker 2: the openness of mind to think, how do these things

713
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Speaker 2: fit together? One of the things, and we're going to

714
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Speaker 2: talk about this in a minute, but one of the

715
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Speaker 2: things I think is really interesting is working puzzles helps

716
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Speaker 2: deter Alzheimer's because you have to sit and think how

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Speaker 2: this fit. And I find so many times people would

718
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Speaker 2: rather be taught something and memorize it than to decode

719
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Speaker 2: it and understand how it fits. And in the process

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Speaker 2: of unearthing the truth of how these things can be compatible,

721
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Speaker 2: there is a certain amount of healing and a certain

722
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Speaker 2: amount of deliverance, and a certain amount of knowing that

723
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Speaker 2: comes from that process. It couldn't be all bad. If

724
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Speaker 2: God says it he is all science, omnus, omniscient, it

725
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Speaker 2: couldn't be He joined the two together. But we don't

726
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Speaker 2: think deeply, nor are we taught to think deeply. Yeah,

727
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Speaker 2: we are not not to think deeply, whether in class

728
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: or in church, we are not taught to think deeply.

729
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Speaker 2: We have a proclivity to believe this because I said it,

730
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Speaker 2: believe it because John three sixteen said it. When there

731
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Speaker 2: are justifiable facts that go along with what we are

732
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Speaker 2: teaching that as validity. And we don't have to cut

733
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Speaker 2: our mind off and cut our brain off in order

734
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Speaker 2: to be able to connect with God, you know, because.

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Speaker 1: He made us exactly well, you say some so many

736
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Speaker 1: brilliant things there open mind. Look how often you said

737
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Speaker 1: that word open mind. When I talk about an open mind,

738
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about literally the conscious part of our mind

739
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: listening to the non conscious via the subconscious. So we

740
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Speaker 1: had these as science behind this. So when we open

741
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: our mind, we're going to tap into wisdom. We're going

742
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: to think with a logic that's a different to a

743
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: logic that you get a scripture in church. You don't question.

744
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: That's just conscious mind. You're not even touching the depth

745
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: of that. That's not even gonna touch it. It's just words.

746
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Speaker 1: It's not it's not good, and words are powerful, but

747
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the words that don't penetrate that don't change it. For

748
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: you to change you have to really what does this mean?

749
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: You really have to connect into the depth. So logic

750
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: for example ex plus Y equal z. If you do

751
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: that on a conscious level, you're going to make bad decisions.

752
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna like that person hurt me. Therefore, I'm a victim,

753
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and I'm always going to be a victim. Bad logic.

754
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: Yes they did hurt you, Yes you have been damaged.

755
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Yes it has impacted your life, but that's not the

756
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: end of the story. If you tap into the non conscious,

757
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: if you tap and then you really listen to that,

758
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: because the spirit of God is massive, the spirit of

759
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: God conscious bomb your conscious mind, you'll explode. As I mentioned,

760
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: So it's filtered through your spirit, through your subconscious, and

761
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: signals are sent to you and you consciously become aware

762
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: of things. Now we can choose. I've lay before your life,

763
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: and there's choose, the saying curse, you choose life, You

764
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: can choose. What does choose mean? It means stand back,

765
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: it means observe the situation. Yes, that person has got

766
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: a narcissistic personality. They're abusing me. This is a terrible life.

767
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: You do not have to be that person's affecting you.

768
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Sure you going know, contact may be an option, But

769
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: what one has to do at the same time is

770
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: look at that whole scenario that's happening, and look at

771
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: the impact on you and protect yourself. And basically, I've

772
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: got to say this in a very very very clear way.

773
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: So let's say that you're going through a very traumatic situation.

774
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: This is real in your life. You are a victim

775
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: of a situation, and that's creating all these toxic networks

776
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: and affecting how you function. Now, if you just stay

777
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: in that scenario, you're going to get worse. You're going

778
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: to have to get out of that scenario to be

779
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: able to heal in order to be able to function well.

780
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: So this is why very often I'm used that example

781
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: of no contact because it's very all over the news

782
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: at the moment, and I've oun podcasts on it and

783
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: people going no contact comparents and abusive narcissistic relationships and

784
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: is this good and bad? There's been a lot of

785
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: discussion around that, So I'm just using that as an

786
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: example for listeners. So now you've got this experience of

787
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: all wired into you. But as each narcissistic experience is happening,

788
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: it's wired in that the solutions are wired there as well.

789
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: It also acted a generational trauma in whatever way. So

790
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: this is mess coming up in you. So if you

791
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: don't heal, you're just going to get worse. And so

792
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: therefore part of the healing is you're going to have

793
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: to create a bit of a bubble around you and disconnect.

794
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: So that means that you have to disconnect. When we

795
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: talk about disconnect, we talk about disconnecting from what from

796
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: the source, Like a plugging in a computer keeps it charge.

797
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: You want to disconnect from the source of pain. So

798
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: therefore it may be that you need to go no

799
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: contact from that narcissistic person. Now, it doesn't mean that

800
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: you're going to sit back in the space and blame

801
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: that person forever. You can acknowledge the impact. You can say,

802
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: this is what was wrong, this is what they did

803
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: to me, This is not good. But I disconnect our release.

804
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: So I'm having compassion for myself and in a way,

805
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm having compassion for them, but not compassion that allows

806
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: them to continue abusing me. Compassion that says they are

807
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: doing that because of but there because I is not

808
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: my problem anymore. They must fix themselves up icon. But

809
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I have to work on me others. I am going

810
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: to carry this through to my kids, to other people

811
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: in my environment. I have to heal myself. That is wisdom.

812
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Then in that space you can then choose to tune

813
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: in to that level of wisdom that then helps you

814
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: stand back and observe and say, Okay, this is the

815
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: impact on my life. How am I going to do

816
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: the what next? Research Bishop Jack's research, I've done, research

817
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: other people have done show that when you acknowledge that trauma,

818
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: but you're getting to that place where you disconnect. It's

819
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: called disentanglement in quantum physics, where you literally cut the tires,

820
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: pull out the plug, release, forgive, whatever word you want

821
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: to do. Not your problem. That's bad what they did.

822
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: We're not excusing, but I keep stressing that I don't

823
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: want people to think I'm having compassion and it's an

824
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: excuse for that person to continue. No, what I'm saying

825
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: is that that person needs to work on their own stuff.

826
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: You need to work on your own stuff, or you're

827
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: going to start doing maybe something similar, or you're going

828
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: to fall apart, or you're going to impact others. So

829
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: you disconnect, and that literally scientifically disconnects that person from you.

830
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: Forgiveness or release, whatever you want to call it, cuts

831
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: that energy source. You pull out the plug. Now you

832
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: can create an environment where you can tune into the

833
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: wisdom of the unconscious. Now my conscious can hear what

834
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: is the way to move forward.

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Speaker 2: I think there's two dangers. I think there's a danger

836
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Speaker 2: of First of all, forgiveness does not mean that you

837
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: have earned or I can forgive you. But that doesn't

838
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: mean that that gives you proximity to me exactly. Okay,

839
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: that that's the first thing. Second thing is if I

840
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: don't get it out of me, I will recreate it

841
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: in my next relationship exactly because it is still a

842
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: part of me, is still connected to me. So getting

843
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: it out of me is the culture like flam out

844
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: of me. I got to get it out of me

845
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: so that I can get well and go on with

846
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: my life. Whether you choose to get it out or not,

847
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: that's up to you. I can't get it out for you.

848
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: And that's something I think a lot of people don't understand.

849
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: They love so hard that they want to fix the person,

850
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: and you can't do that.

851
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: You can stand by this side. You can give them

852
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: every tool in the book and all the support and

853
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: it's still their choice. But that's where you have to

854
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: get strong and you say such a good thing, then

855
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: that it is going to impact other people. This is

856
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: what we're circling back to earlier on what you were

857
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: saying is that people kind of get into this victor

858
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: mentality and you've talked about you know, the what next

859
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: we have to process through. We can't just keep talking

860
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: about you said like in therapy is good and et cetera,

861
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: but you can't just keep bringing it up. I liken

862
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: that to flying a plane. The pilots have to prepare

863
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: the plane. If they just prepare the plane and do

864
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: nothing else, you go nowhere. A lot of people are breathing, meditating,

865
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: saying their prayers, but they're not going anywhere. Then there's

866
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: people that are doing that preparation, but they're taking off.

867
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: The pilot takes off next. But that's I feel like

868
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: this and there's all the awareness, is all the talk about,

869
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: but then they don't process. Then they crash as well.

870
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: We have to prepare, we have to take off, we

871
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: have to fly. Flying has got three stages. You The

872
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: first part is where you actually why am I in

873
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: the state? The third part third, the second part of

874
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: flying once you're flying or processing is to then see

875
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: what else is this connected to? You know, what are

876
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: the generational things, what are the other areas of my life?

877
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: What is the impact houses? Then the fourth thing is Okay,

878
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: these are the pack I can't change what's happened, but

879
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: I can't change how it plays that into my future.

880
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Then you can land with an action and start making

881
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: those changes. That's what's missing.

882
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: What I love about what you're saying is something that

883
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: I think is often missing from the pulpits in America.

884
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: We misallocate all the responsibility for our healing to God. Yes,

885
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: and we step back and remain innocent, And our innocence

886
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: is complicit to our deliverance because we don't understand. I

887
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 2: like to like in it. It's really why I named

888
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: this next chapter. The first time God hewed out of

889
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: the stone and wrote the ten Commandments on the stone.

890
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: The second time he told Moses to hew out the

891
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: stone and then he wrote on the stone. It was

892
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: more collaborative. And I think the deeper we get with God,

893
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: we have to get to the point that we understand

894
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: that we have a responsibility. That faith with our works

895
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: is dead. And we know a lot about the faith,

896
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: but we've not been taught about the works. What am

897
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: I supposed to do? What am I supposed to choose

898
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: to bring about the greater healing that I want in

899
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: my life?

900
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: I love that you can I comment on that. I

901
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: know one of the things you want to discuss with addiction.

902
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: If we live like that, I'm going to like in

903
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: that almost to addiction. If you live like that, you're

904
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: living in that conscious room only and you're only intermittently

905
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: tapping into wisdom. But that's very unsatisfactory. So it doesn't

906
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: satisfy who you are as a human. Be deep, were brilliant.

907
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: We need to think things, We need to experience sadness

908
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: and happiness. We need to learn, and we need to

909
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: not see failure as the failure is how can we learn.

910
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be learning to operate in love, and

911
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: that's a hard journey. We're in a world that says, oh,

912
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: you feel bad, take a drug, or you feel bad,

913
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: it's something wrong with your brain. It's always blaming something.

914
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: There's always giving. Is outsourcing, it's insourcing, it's in you. Sure,

915
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: we have to deal with the physicals and goodness for medicine,

916
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: we have to deal with the physical impact of high

917
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: blood pressure and high cholesterol and all these things that

918
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: happen when we don't manage your mind. And we must

919
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: come back to the Alzheimer's thing as well. We mustn't

920
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: forget because I want to say something about that, But

921
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: ultimately you have to fix it from your mind. Your

922
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: mind is ninety nine percent. That's where the work starts.

923
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: That's where the peace will come. That's where we will

924
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: find the solutions to move forward. But that requires going

925
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: through the pain first, going through that healing journey. People

926
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: don't want to go through the healing journey. You're just

927
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: going to land up fighting, being a victim, or being unhappy,

928
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: or getting caught up in the wrong things and the

929
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: wrong thinking, and then they become addicted to let me

930
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: say a scripture, thatt me grab that drink that we

931
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: pretend I'm fine, performative society that we live in. That's

932
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: an addiction. That performative society. I'm okay. You're not okay.

933
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: It's just a shell. You're just living in the out

934
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: of conscious and deep down inside you've broken. You're depressed

935
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: because you're not tapping into the non conscious and exploring that.

936
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: And one of the ways to know that you are

937
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: addicted to work is when you go on vacation and

938
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: you can't raise and you are miserable. You're the first

939
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: three or four days you're walking around you need.

940
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: To fix, you need to fix, you need to fix.

941
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: And you don't realize how addicted you are. And then

942
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: you come down and you're emotional and you're weeping in

943
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: and you say, I'm never going to do that to

944
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: myself again. And then if you're not careful, you go

945
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: back and do it to yourself again all.

946
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: Over again, just repeat the cycle. Living in a conscious

947
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: mind braind loop instead of a non conscious conscious mind

948
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: brain loop. The conscious mind without the non conscious mind

949
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: is like leading a toddler loose, and that's think of

950
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: leading a total loose. What will happen. You've got grandchildren,

951
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: You've got to watch them all the time, and so

952
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: we supposed to. This is what praying continuously is. It's

953
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: getting your noun conscious, your conscious mind. I choose to

954
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: listen to the depths, which means then I'm getting listening

955
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: to the real depth, you know, listening to you know

956
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's in that doorway. And I think

957
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: a lot of our addictive patents from our research working

958
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: with people with drug addictions, alcoholism and all that kind

959
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: of thing, and whether it's not those extremes, it could

960
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: just be addicted addicted to saying scripture over and over,

961
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: or shopping, I mean rowling on your phone. Those are

962
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: patterns of conscious mind rren loops that they've got stuck

963
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: in that are creating these temporary highs, creating a temporary

964
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: fix in the body. The body is one percent off

965
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: we are, But when we get caught in a conscious

966
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: mind venue without the non conscious, we get sucked into

967
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: the physical and we rely on that meal. That's only

968
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: one percent. We've got to train ourselves to stop getting

969
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: stuck there and train ourselves to learn to love the

970
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: non conscious the spirit level. And that requires a change society.

971
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: Coming down my street now, because some people are naturally

972
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: relaxed and some people are naturally aggressive. I am by

973
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: nature aggressive and will book myself and work myself and

974
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: go on and on and on and on and on.

975
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: And my wife has to drag me byt my ear

976
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: like to the principal's office to get me to the vacation.

977
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: And then once I get there, about the third day,

978
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I was there. When I come back

979
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: into my world, and it's already got the rhythm. When

980
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: I get off the plane, it's already the wheel is

981
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: already turning like a hamster. What I have learned. I

982
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: might not can jump up and go to Hawaii every

983
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: time I need to, but I can take many vacations.

984
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 2: I can. I can take a spa treatment, I can

985
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: go golfing. I can take a walk, just a thirty

986
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: minute walk has a way of just just detoxing your

987
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: mind where you put too much on your mind and

988
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: you need to unfog and clear yourself up. Do you

989
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: think that's effective?

990
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely so. What you're talking about is the cascade

991
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: of intrusive thoughts that grab us on the one hand,

992
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: and then the business of life. So now I want

993
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: to answer this in two parts. We're going to talk

994
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: right in a moment. I want to come back to that.

995
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: The way that you work, I work the same sort

996
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: of way. Now that's I'm gonna say. The Sun's going

997
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: to sound confusing, but hear what I'm saying. It's a

998
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: good thing to work. We are designed as humans to

999
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: do a lot. We're supposed to be brilliant. We're just

1000
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: not very balanced, sometimes so balanced, and that's the that's

1001
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: the key thing there. But with the more you get

1002
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: into the non conscious mind, which you'd operating all the time,

1003
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: literally the more. You need to satisfy that depth because

1004
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: it's an endless pit. So therefore your relaxation could be

1005
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: lying on the beach and awai on the beautiful environment,

1006
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and reading deeply spirit or listening to pods.

1007
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you have to just empty you know,

1008
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: you can't ever mpto your mind because you're not going

1009
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: to that hunger will not be satisfied. And the other

1010
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: thing is in that in the walk, whatever you can

1011
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: you that's as important. So I actually advocate to people

1012
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: every literally every hour, you should take a vacation every

1013
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: hour of the day. Now why into two minutes? What's

1014
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: a vacation one to two minutes? I call it a

1015
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: thinker moment where you literally switch off to the external,

1016
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: switch onto the internal, take she into the depth of

1017
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: your unconscious. Those thoughts that are swirling around come up,

1018
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: and you can start getting corralling them and getting older.

1019
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: It's we we giving ourselves a chance to reboot and restore,

1020
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: and that does amazing things in our brain and our body.

1021
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: But it's a mind decision. It's a mind decision to

1022
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: connect the conscious with the non conscious.

1023
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: I think the other thing that we had to watch

1024
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: out for we have a tendency to date and or

1025
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: marry people who are opposite, secretly hoping that they will

1026
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: save us from ourselves. But I'm too heavy to drag.

1027
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: At some point I have to go willingly and submit

1028
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: myself and not make my problem her problem to fix exactly.

1029
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: We can share and help each other, which we know.

1030
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: So it's been able to bounce off each other and

1031
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: to have to have a plan what happens, I think

1032
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: where people get You're so correct, People try and fix

1033
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: each other, and our opposites do work that they maybe

1034
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: don't work. It's the mindset. Your perception is king how

1035
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: are you coming into this relationship, but applies to even

1036
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: to Alzheimer's, to anything. How you view something influences how

1037
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: much connection you get with an unconscious how well your

1038
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: physiology functions. So therefore, if you're in a relationship expecting

1039
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: something to fix you already the perceptions wrong. It's not

1040
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: going to work and it's going to create a lot

1041
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: of problems. Where we do help each other is when

1042
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: we can learn to listen to each other and go

1043
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: through the entire process. So, for example, if you have

1044
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety coming up and you wake up

1045
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: in the morning and there's a lot of anxiety coming

1046
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: up to be able to share with your spouse and

1047
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: get those those words out and whatever those thoughts are.

1048
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: Get those thoughts out, but not just hang around there.

1049
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: If you keep them there, this is quite important. If

1050
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: you just keep them say them and you don't do anything,

1051
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: they go back into an unconscious stronger than before, and

1052
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: you've missed the solution. So that's where we can bounce

1053
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: off each other and say, Okay, that's what you said,

1054
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: What are you going to do about it? What else

1055
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: comes up? What is your reconceptualization, what's your action? And

1056
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: that's where we can help each other. But you still

1057
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: can't make the other person do it. But if we

1058
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: became better at listening to tell people, to suggest to

1059
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: people how you're going to see this differently. This is

1060
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: what's happening. What are you going to do about this?

1061
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: By asking that sort of question and maybe making a

1062
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: couple of suggestions, you activate the expiration of the solution.

1063
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: I think another thing that's important is to get the

1064
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: thought out and not just.

1065
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: The rage exactly, because the rage is only part of

1066
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: the day.

1067
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: Yes, you got to get the thoughts out you've got

1068
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Speaker 2: to attack the issue and not the individual exactly. And

1069
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: a lot of times we make somebody who loves us

1070
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: the most the whipping posts for things that we don't

1071
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: even talk about, the thing that's really bothering us. We

1072
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: just vent the rage like a hot water.

1073
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: Tank actually with the utex exactly just exploding out, Which

1074
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: brings us bishop to what is a thought? Because we

1075
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: think thousands of thoughts every day. We built thousands of thoughts,

1076
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: and if we don't manage those thoughts, they do become

1077
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: this exploding rage as you just explained, and then that person.

1078
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: We do it with people that we trust the most,

1079
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: and that comes out with them sort of things. So

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00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: a thought is an experience, So this is an experience

1081
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: we're having now, So it's just being built into a thought.

1082
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: A thought is a cluster of memories and it has

1083
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: emotions and data details, and every single thing that we

1084
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: experience becomes a thought. So we put trillions upon trillions

1085
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: of thought, and those thoughts are constantly growing and getting

1086
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: new information added. So when we talk about getting a

1087
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: thought out, we are talking as soon as it's out,

1088
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: as soon as we express it verbally. We connect the

1089
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: conscious with the non conscious. Now we can analyze it

1090
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: and we can say, Okay, that has happened. This is

1091
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: not working. That's good, this is bad. How can I

1092
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: see this differently? This is a shift instead of I

1093
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: didn't get this done. Now can get this done? Whatever

1094
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: it may be, You can redesign. It's the what Nicks.

1095
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: This is what I was talking about earlier on and

1096
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: that's where epigenetics and all this comes in. We see

1097
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: from the research that what you do with what you

1098
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: have experienced is more important than just talking about what

1099
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: you've experienced. Is what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: Next chapter number six Alzheimer's fear and neuroplasticity, you know,

1101
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: which is a good lead into the whole thing about Alzheimer's.

1102
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's is not necessarily a woman's disease, so there's a

1103
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Speaker 2: preponderance of women who have it, and particularly Black women.

1104
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Speaker 2: The stats are very very high on them having Alzheimer's,

1105
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: And I think it is because you're always having to plan,

1106
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: always having a figure, always having to do and I've found,

1107
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: at least in my home founder my mother died of Alzheimer's,

1108
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: so it's a very dear and important thing to me.

1109
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: Some of the brightest people end up with Alzheimer's. Ronald

1110
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: Reagan look at some of the brightest thought leaders end

1111
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: up with Alzheimer's. And I'm wondering sometime if we don't

1112
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 2: take those breaks, if we don't realize that there's more

1113
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: to us than what we learned and what we read,

1114
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: or what we do or the cause we believe in,

1115
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: no matter how important it is. Kind of like compassion fatigue,

1116
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: you run out of intelligence fatigue, you run out and

1117
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that's how it looks from the outside,

1118
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: that may not be how it goes from inside. The doctor,

1119
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Speaker 2: my mother's doctor explained it to me this way. He said,

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Speaker 2: your mother will lose her immediate thoughts first, like peeling

1121
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: an onion, and he says, every onion is a layer

1122
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: of memory, and she'll finally peel past you. And the

1123
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: reason she won't recognize you is that she's peeled to

1124
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: a place where she no longer remembers you. And before

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Speaker 2: it was over, she was down the baby dog and

1126
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: it was very, very It's almost harder on the family

1127
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: than it is on the patient. What's going on with

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Speaker 2: this epidemic of Alzheimer's. I mean, we always had it,

1129
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: but we didn't always have a name for it, and

1130
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't as prevalent as it is now. And why

1131
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Speaker 2: do you think it's more prevalent amongst black women than

1132
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: it is white women. I want you to listen up

1133
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: with this because if you're not subject to it, you

1134
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: may end up subject to it. And if you are

1135
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: not subject to it, somebody in your family is and

1136
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: you cannot help with something that you do not understand.

1137
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: So check this out.

1138
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Speaker 1: Okay, So Nani to tap into my non conscious wisdom

1139
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: to give you the best answer I can. Everything I've

1140
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: set up to now plays into this situation. Okay. So,

1141
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Speaker 1: first of all, only ten percent of the world's population,

1142
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: according to research, will actually get one of the dementias.

1143
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: So ninety percent won't and that's probably overestimate. It's probably

1144
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: less than ten percent. We're much more aware of it,

1145
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: and we much so it feels like it's more. So

1146
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: that's a very big key factor because there's a message

1147
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: that's going out that it's inevitable that as you age,

1148
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: you're going to get cognitive decline. As you age, you're

1149
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: going to get cognitive decline that will land a thing

1150
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: dementia and it's like this, Oh my gosh, this is

1151
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: going to happen. So there's tremendous fear in society currently

1152
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: around the dementias, of which totally because we know that

1153
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: fear has an energy that and I'm not talking about

1154
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: weird stuff. I'm talking about brain, little brain works. It

1155
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: has a fear, is a toxic thought, and it is

1156
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. If the status then all the things

1157
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: that you've described, it's terrifying. So if you build that

1158
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: you as you're experiencing it, that's become a thought. And

1159
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 1: as you fear, it gets bigger and bigger and bigger

1160
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: and bigger, and whatever you think about the most grows

1161
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: and whatever. And those toxic thoughts, Bishop Jakes, the things

1162
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: that cause the brain to break down and the body

1163
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: to break down are toxic thoughts. So unmanaged years of

1164
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: unmanaged toxic stress, unmanaged trauma, undult with issues, not knowing

1165
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: how to process the world around you, bold build, build,

1166
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: and weaken. It's not that neurofibrillary tangles on the plaques,

1167
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: because we've seen people at one hundred and ten who

1168
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: had terrible lives. You're full of those those at those

1169
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: drugs don't work either, to try and break that doesn't

1170
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: really change it. They don't know biologically, they cannot really pinpoint,

1171
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: so they diet, exercise. Yes, all these things contribute, but

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Speaker 1: the most important thing is how are you looking? And

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: how are you managing your mind? And in managing your

1174
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: mind starts with your grandchildren, your two year olders. How

1175
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: are your body be teaching our children? How how are

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01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: we teaching them? So it starts there. If you are

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Speaker 1: already whatever age you at, how old are you, Bishop Jacs,

1178
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Speaker 1: if I may ask you, sixty eight? Okay? So and

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Speaker 1: my mom just out of recent dear Parkinson's and had

1180
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Speaker 1: dementia with it as well, so I'm sixty three. Now.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you and I are going to

1182
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: get that if we live with the current philosophy that,

1183
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, your chances now are very strong. I

1184
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: refuse that because I know that the fear is worse

1185
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: than the potential. The potential has to it's the cocoon

1186
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: that has to be opened up. I have to let

1187
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: that ugly thing out, but I can choose not to.

1188
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: So how I manage my mind is absolutely essential. Now.

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Speaker 1: People that are brilliant, that have got all times like

1190
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned, we don't know what they did in their

1191
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: time managing their fe People are great at putting on

1192
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: a show, but what are you doing when you wake

1193
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: up at three in the morning. That's what I'm interested in.

1194
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: That is your source of where your breakdown and your

1195
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: brain and body occur. Because one thing we need to

1196
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: keep clear is the non conscious mind is perfect. It

1197
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: doesn't get messed up. The conscious mind, the brain, and

1198
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: the body does get messed up. So in someone so

1199
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: to to, if I make the conscious mind physical and

1200
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: brain and body, those get damaged in something like a dementia.

1201
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: The non conscious is never damaged. And this is why

1202
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: when people this is while we need to also understand

1203
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: eternal research that it's not that the research showing that

1204
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: nineteen nine point nine percent sure that the mind spirit

1205
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: exists beyond the physical. As the body disintegrates, the spirit

1206
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: and soul reintegrate. So therefore, Alzheimer's dementias do not touch

1207
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: that part of the mind. They touch the conscious room

1208
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: and they touch the physical. But that's because they have

1209
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: been not been working like they should. And yes, diet

1210
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: exercise player role, but the biggest role is how we

1211
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: are managing our mind and it's never too late. I've

1212
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: worked with people that have already got full on Alzheimer's. Okay,

1213
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: they're at different stages or one of the front to

1214
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: temple dementias or one of them. And what we've managed

1215
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: to do, if one does the exercises and you really

1216
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: stimulate the brain, you can arrest to a certain extent

1217
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: and you can prevent it from getting worse. If you

1218
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: do nothing, it will just get worse quicker that if

1219
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: people are starting to show early signs in this we

1220
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: seeing we are seeing people in their thirties when I

1221
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: started practicing, Yes, we saw this in eighty five year

1222
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: old eventy five year olds. Now we're seeing this as

1223
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: young as in thirty five year olds, and we even

1224
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: seeing signs of cognitive Now we know this is attributed

1225
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: a lot to the psychiatric drugs and things that causes

1226
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: damage in the brain. So it's a conscious mind and

1227
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: the brain starts to start becoming compromised, the vulnerabilities to

1228
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: things like one of the dementias will start to potentially happen.

1229
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: But because of neuroplasticity, which is the ability that we

1230
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: have with our mind to change these networks in the

1231
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: brain and the body, we can do a lot of

1232
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: preventative work.

1233
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Speaker 2: I don't think people know that they had the power

1234
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: sales to retrain and we were the way that they handle.

1235
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: You can't you can't handle what's thrown at you, but

1236
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: you can handle how you catch it.

1237
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it you exactly and and you're still

1238
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: always going to have if you think of that network

1239
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: of whatever toxic issue in your past or whatever, but

1240
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: a lot they never go away. But instead of then

1241
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: being this massive, ugly forest, think of them shrinking in

1242
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: size and becoming small. So you remember, your child becomes

1243
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: your testimony. You remember versus power, You take the power

1244
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: out of it. And that's what we need to be doing.

1245
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: The most important thing we need to be teaching ourselves

1246
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: is what is the mind? How do I use my mind?

1247
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: It's just not being taught correctly. So if you use

1248
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: your mind just with the outer room, the conscious mind,

1249
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: with only intimatetent interconnection with deep thinking and mind, without

1250
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: doing mind management properly, we will see an increase in dimensions.

1251
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: We will see people AI. We talked about it before

1252
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: we started forming AI is very useful, but already research

1253
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: is showing that if you are going to outsource your

1254
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: deep thinking to AI. Your brain's going to change structure,

1255
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: it's going to shrink. Added some of the earliest work

1256
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: in neuroplasticity in the world back in the late eighties,

1257
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: where it wasn't even a thing yet, it was really new,

1258
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: and I show that people with tumatic brain damage that

1259
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: were nonfunctional became functional, got university degrees. And in between

1260
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: neuroplasticities our ability that we have with the superpower of

1261
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: our mind to manage your mind and therefore change all

1262
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: these networks. If you don't change a network, what does

1263
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: a network do? And a network is this cloud network, proteins, jamine, genes,

1264
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: all these things. Those networks drive you. So if I'm

1265
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: toxic and i have toxic networks and I'm not choosing

1266
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: to wire them out, so I'm living in that conscious

1267
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: mind brain loop, I am increasing my vulnerability to anything

1268
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: that's out there, including the dementias. Now, once again, only

1269
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 1: ten percent of people, according to the WHO and various

1270
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 1: other studies, will get full on dementia. So ninety percent aren't.

1271
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: But that number is creeping up. But we shouldn't even

1272
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: have teen percent. You see my point, We shouldn't even

1273
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: have in that stage.

1274
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: And I think in a relationship, I think men could

1275
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: do a better job of listening. You know, sometimes a

1276
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: person just needs to vent. They don't need you to

1277
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Speaker 2: fix it exactly, They just need you to get it out.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that we always understand that. My

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01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: mother and I would go for long walks and she

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 2: would talk and do different things, and we would communicate,

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Speaker 2: and we had a very She talked me all through

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Speaker 2: every stage what it was like. You know, she said,

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Speaker 2: the only thing that got hold on me was my body.

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Speaker 2: And she would tell me how she was feeling, and

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Speaker 2: the numbness and that was coming over her and losing

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: the ability to swallow food. She taught me all the

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Speaker 2: way through it. She told me if my mother had lived,

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Speaker 2: if my mother had the kind of care you gave me,

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: she would probably be alow now, I said, your mother

1290
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: would be one hundred and twenty. She said, I'll shut up. Yeah,

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01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: she still had a sense again and all of that.

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Speaker 2: My greatest birthday was my forty ninth birthday, because my

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: father died when he was forty eight. So these kinds

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: of things can haunt you. And I want to jump

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: spiritual for a moment and say that Satan is an

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: accuser of the Brethren, and it's not just accusing you

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Speaker 2: of going to hell. He's accusing you that you are

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 2: bound and determined to have what your mother had, what

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: your father had. Your lifespan is going to be cut off.

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01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 2: Then many of us live with a shadow over our

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: lives that we might not get to the place that

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: we really need to be. How can we begin early

1303
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: to rethink and replan maybe replanning for me, replanning, you know,

1304
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: but not planning on a casket. It's been very helpful,

1305
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, planning because when you don't see someone get

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01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: old in front of you, you have no mentor and

1307
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: you don't know how to do it. And so I

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: see people thirty years old who think their life is

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: over at thirty, you know. Yeah, I see somebody forty

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01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: years old and they think their life is over at forty.

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: They do not realize that you're just coming into your

1312
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: own You're just getting your head together. They don't understand

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: that the future is ahead of you. One of my

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: favorite scriptures, if you allow me to share Ithos, was

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01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: when Jacob was gathered around the bed and he was

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:47,440
Speaker 2: getting ready to die. Man he told Benjamin. He said, Benjamin,

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01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: you should ravin as a wolf. In the morning, you

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01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: should divide the prey, and in the evening you should

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: divide the spoils. So he's saying, when you're young, take

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Speaker 2: on the giants, he said, But as you get older,

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01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 2: your job is to divide the spoils of what you

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01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 2: did in your youth. And I think that's very important

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01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: that we do not waste our most energetic, vibrant, vivacious

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: youth and friveulty and then get to the time that

1325
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: we are most vulnerable and be the less equipped and

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: less adapt at being able to divide the spoils. So

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Speaker 2: I think, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that so much, and it's

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: so scientifically because we know spiritual. What I love about,

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Speaker 1: that's what you just described with that scripture is the

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01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: fact that as we are in our youth and growing,

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Speaker 1: and I know you asked you a question earlier on

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Speaker 1: but if I may comment quickly on, is we think

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Speaker 1: with a lot of As we are younger, we think

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01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: with more detailed focus, and then as we get all

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 1: the more conceitual because you've got all these existing experiences

1337
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: that have become these networks of thoughts that guide you.

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: So you need both. You need both. So essentially, when

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: we are when if you look at our world as

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: it changes with each generation, our current generation is very

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: consumed with the messaging of if you have and I

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01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier on if you have something anything, any

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01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: feeling that's sad or difficult, there's something wrong with you

1344
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: and your brain. Now we know from the research that

1345
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: the minute you tell someone that someone gets a perception,

1346
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: they're going to get worse. So the hope that you

1347
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: say talk about people being sad at thirty and forty

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: and twenty and they's got the whole life ahead of them,

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01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: there's a strong message saying, well, why is there even

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: any purpose? And it's one of those things because I

1351
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: work with a lot of gen alph and talk a

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01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: lot gen z and there's things what's the point of

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: it all? And so we keep we have come with

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: a messaging in the last forty fifty years of if

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: you've got very very physicalist, a materialist and materialistic view

1356
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: instead of an idealistic and philosophical view, which is both

1357
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: very scientific and a materialistic view says well, this is

1358
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: it and if you have that emotion, you've got this

1359
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: brain disease. This is for the rest of your life.

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01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: You're going to get dementia, You're going to die. What's

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01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: the point? You know there's this The hope has been removed.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: And so when you constantly take away, if you if

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: you have a constant focus on just the biology, you've

1364
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: got to eat this, do that. Not that I'm all

1365
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: of those are important, but the mind we're not teaching.

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01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: I think what I'm trying to say is we're not

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: teaching enough about the mind. We haven't spent enough time

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: like the philosophers of old, the in the Jesus in

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01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: the temple sitting talking. We need to be talking that

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: older generation with a young generation. We need to be

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: talking about life. We need to be thinking, exploring, like

1372
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: Socrates did. Like that's what's missing. We just it's very quick,

1373
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: fixed productive, be productive. Something's wrong. Take a tablet, do

1374
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: this exercise, Take that supplement. That's not the solution. It's

1375
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of a and pretend the

1376
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: biggest solution. We're missing. And until we start addressing that,

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01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to get our thoughts

1378
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: under control. We need to be teaching our kids when

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: all these thoughts come up. This is what's happening. This

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: is not you, This is because of It's not because

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: you've got a broken brain. It's because you've gone through stuff.

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: It's not you. Let's find the because of. Let's rewire that.

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01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: Let's use neurodirect neuroplasticity. Let's rewire those networks that prevents Alzheimer's,

1384
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: that controls illnesses in the body, that stops the wars

1385
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: and the fighting. To take it really philosophical because now

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: I look at a human as a human. I look

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: at as a human as having an experience, and I'm

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: well tuned in too myself, so I can choot. Do

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01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying? It invites connection and communication,

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: which we thrive on the moment be creating disconnect. We're

1391
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: creating a bunch of physical machines that are broken, that

1392
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: need parts being added and taken away. That's just going

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: to create warfare and disconnection.

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Speaker 2: Chapter number seven Addiction, rejection, and rewriting your story. Listen,

1395
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: this is not the sort of thing that you can

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01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: just listen at YouTube and walk away. You need to

1397
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: download the podcast and play this over and over and

1398
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: over again. This is not the kind of conversation where

1399
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: you say I heard it, I got it, I'm through

1400
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: with it. At different moments in your life, you have

1401
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,919
Speaker 2: to remind yourself of truth in order to find the balance.

1402
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: In order to find balance, you have to find the center.

1403
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: And I want you to use this not as entertainment,

1404
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: but to use it as medicine. Playing it in your car,

1405
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: going to a job that gets on your nerves, going

1406
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: over to see your in laws, going to a Thanksgiving dinner,

1407
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: and you and your mother in law get it. I

1408
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: want you to use this as a prescription for the soul.

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01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 2: And we're getting ready to take on an issue that

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: is changing in America, and that is the issue of alcohol.

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01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: I've read a very important article where the sales of

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: our alcohol in this country we're dropping for the first

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01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: time since it's legalization. Uh. And I think, though there

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: are no commercials that I have seen on TV promoting

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: getting away from alcohol, social media is loaded with information

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01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: about the dangers of alcohol to the brain. Would you

1417
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: address that a little?

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know this is great because this is where

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01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: social media is great. When we've got knowledge, we've got power.

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01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: And I mean, just this morning I was reading a

1421
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 1: study about how you know the problems that alcohol causes

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01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: in the gut, and there's been so much and it's

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01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: just one and increases your chance of cancer. We know,

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01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: there's so much research now we know that alcohol changes

1425
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: of physiology, and alcohol drunk with the wrong reasons makes

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: it worse. So literally that every for every the alcohol substance,

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01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: the actual substance, our mindset will make it even more

1428
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: dangers to our body or not to an Otherivisual perception

1429
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: is king how your mindset is around your thoughts you're thinking.

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: So if you're drinking to suppress an emotion, you'll have

1431
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: more damage in your body. If you're drinking to not

1432
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: face something, if you're drinking to escape, those are very

1433
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Speaker 1: big the mind as ninety nine percent, as I've been saying,

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01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: So then the impact of that alcohol is going to

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01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 1: be one hundred times worse. And if you're just having

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01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: exactly self medicating drinking for the wrong reasons, it's social

1437
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: drinking down, then it's not going to hurt you. But

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: it's the way that alcohol has been it's insidious. When

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01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: I talk about addictions not a disease, and alcohol as addiction,

1440
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,480
Speaker 1: and there's science, a lot of science behind that Alcoholism

1441
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: is often sold as a disease that you can't control.

1442
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: The minute you tell someone they can't control something, they

1443
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: can't control it because they but wire in a network

1444
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: that they think they can't control it. So the first

1445
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: thing they have to break is that if people have

1446
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: got caught up in using alcohol in an addictive way,

1447
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: is to recognize that that's not who you are. It's

1448
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: not a pattern for the rest of your life. It

1449
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: has It does change the wiring and the brain and

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: the body. It does have an impact. It does increase

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01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: vulnerability because the nature of alcohol is counter to the

1452
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: way that opiology works. So small amounts of body can

1453
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: deal with large amounts going to mess up your body,

1454
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: but you add the mindset to that, you make it

1455
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: even worse. So addiction is a using something to suppress

1456
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: a toxic thought, a bunch of intrusive thoughts that you

1457
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: just can't deal with it, or just flying all over

1458
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: your head, so you looking for something to numb. So

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01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: from that sense, that's not a good thing to do,

1460
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,759
Speaker 1: and that lands up creating these changes, and we're told

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: that it's hijack the addictive part in the brain. Your

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01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: brain doesn't have an addictive partway. Your brain can't think.

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01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: Your brain doesn't generate. Your brain simply stores data. The

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: thing that's generating is the mind. So the conscious mind

1465
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: has the addictive pathway and codes that into the brain.

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: And if one is drinking alcohol for the wrong reasons,

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01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: that is a partway that's set up associated with the alcohol,

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01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: and therefore then the entire circuitry a mind, brain, body,

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01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: the whole psycho neurobiology that's impacted and change. So I'm

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01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: stressing the mind is more important. Social drinking now then's

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01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: not going to hurt anyone. But if you really messed up,

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01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: and you really are dealing with your stuff, and all

1473
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: of us are messed up. But if you're not dealing

1474
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: with your stuff, if you're not processing, if you're not

1475
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,520
Speaker 1: giving in their garden and dealing with it, that alcohol

1476
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: is going to make it worse. And your body's going

1477
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 1: to be more vulnerable to the impact of the alcohol.

1478
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: So your chances of increasing the impact of what alcohol

1479
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: could cause, from cancer to you name it is increased

1480
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: dramatically by how you're managing your mind. Now, once people

1481
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Speaker 1: manage their mind, I mean, I work with people with

1482
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: alcohol addiction and so on, once they start managing their

1483
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: mind and finding the source of why am I drinking

1484
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: in this way? Why do I have this mindset when

1485
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: not drinking? Why am I reaching for that drink? Once

1486
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: you find that, then you rewire that, you reconceptualize that,

1487
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: you go to the process beyond the what next. The

1488
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: desire to drink changes, the way they drink changes, the

1489
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: way they think while they drink changes. Well, you think

1490
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: while you drink is very important for every breath that

1491
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: you breathe in. That's an A that is talking about

1492
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: breathing are just to give you an analogy. Those are

1493
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: oxygen molecules. Now, we breathe to keep us alive, we know.

1494
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: But if I'm worked up and I'm breathing, do you

1495
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: know that my worked upness that's mind stuff, it's thoughts,

1496
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: and it attaches itself to that breath. So I breathe

1497
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: in more traumer I breathe in more worked up, I

1498
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: get more worked up. So even when we're breathing, that's

1499
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: how fundamental mind is. Bishop Jakes is not just the OCCO.

1500
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: But even while breathing, what you old A. If you

1501
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: worry about getting Alzheimer's, you increase your chance of getting

1502
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's by I think some of between sixty eight and

1503
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: ninety four percent. Our perception of mind is driving all

1504
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: of it. So I know we diversify, but I try

1505
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: to link it back alcohol.

1506
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 3: Yes, it's dangerous, it's all good for us.

1507
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: No. You know, when you start talking about the stimuli

1508
01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 2: that creates a response of alcoholism, one of those stimuli.

1509
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: Rejection, Oh definitely. Yeah.

1510
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 2: Knowing how to deal with rejection and not allowing a

1511
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: person to pronounce a death sentence on you just because

1512
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: they rejected you. The job rejected you, the long company

1513
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: rejected you, but most importantly, your spouse or your date,

1514
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: or your children. We're living in a time now that

1515
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: children are writing off their entire families. Sometimes they've been assaulted,

1516
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: they've got good reason to have complexities and things like that.

1517
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: Other times we write, We write things hard, things off

1518
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: so easily, so easily that it diminishes the value that

1519
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: you later need in life. You write off your children,

1520
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: and then there's nobody to check on you in the hospital.

1521
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: You write off your children, and Mother's Day becomes a

1522
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: day of misery where you you write off your children

1523
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: and there's no laughter in your house, and there's a

1524
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: sadness inside of you, as if you were worthless, or

1525
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: if somebody writes you off, their decision to write you

1526
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: off will often leave you feeling worthless. How do we

1527
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: manage that sort of thing?

1528
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: So you touching on something so important that's also been

1529
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: around since the beginning of time, where topms have occurred

1530
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: between families, but because of social media and the age

1531
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,839
Speaker 1: were living not much more. We are much more awarable

1532
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: of these things that in the whole everything. Okay, so

1533
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: the rejection all these things that there's many reasons why

1534
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: people want to cut off people in their lives. And

1535
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: we gave the narcissistic explanation earlier on for someone who's

1536
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: been abused whatever. That The key thing here is if

1537
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: you don't know yourself, people don't know themselves anymore. We're

1538
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: so in the performative hussle culture. This is who you

1539
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: should be, This is what the church that you should be.

1540
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: This is so externalized, as I said earlier on, until

1541
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: we focus back on the internal, when we know who

1542
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: we are and we are comfortable with being sad and crying,

1543
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: being honest and open these tolerance because everyone's messing up,

1544
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: you know everyone, Yes, some people maybe it's you don't

1545
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: have to as you said, if someone's impacting you and

1546
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: abusing you, you have to be safe and you have

1547
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: to protect yourself and that kind of thing. But we

1548
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: have to work on ourselves. So it does start with ourselves.

1549
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: It does start with really understanding. Maybe you do create

1550
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: that space of isolation. But because of if I'm made

1551
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: for moments with parents, if because of the fact that

1552
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: of the bond of a parent and a child, that

1553
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: that very it's so so big and so strong that

1554
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: and then abuse happens, it's so distorted, so that network

1555
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: is in the brain we can actually even see and

1556
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: in the body we all see the changes and the

1557
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: hormones and the telomeres, which are the ends of DNA.

1558
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: I've done research with telomeres showing how the how they change,

1559
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: and they you can lose biological aid, you can be

1560
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 1: your organs can be so damaged from trauma and things

1561
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: like that that you actually have to go to a

1562
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,879
Speaker 1: period of separation, et cetera. To heal the physic physic physical,

1563
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: will you heal the emotional. The thing though, is that

1564
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: that bond is so tight that as the distortion happens,

1565
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: and this distorted network effecting telemes and all these things

1566
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: is built in and you get all the reactions. There's

1567
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: a very weird mix of a realization when you do

1568
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: cut off of Wow, this is I've got a sense

1569
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: of peace. Now I can start to heal. But then

1570
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: you're grieving. So you're holding these it feels like sorrow

1571
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: and relief at the same time, and we don't know

1572
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: how to deal with that because we don't talk about

1573
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: it enough. It's okay to have sorrow and relief. What

1574
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: I often say to my clients and my patients when

1575
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: I was still practicing, and what I say to myself,

1576
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: what I write about, and what we may have read

1577
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 1: about and heard, is the fact that you can hold

1578
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: what seemed to be contradictory emotions at the same time.

1579
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 1: So when I can accept that I am grieving because

1580
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: this child or this parent has chosen a pathway of whatever,

1581
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: and it's so unnatural and it's broken and they're reacting whatever,

1582
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: that looks like, I can grieve that, and I can

1583
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: grieve and say they do that obviously for their because

1584
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: of everyone's got to be cause of and I can

1585
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 1: see all of that. But at the same time, it's

1586
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: impacted me, I'm destroyed, or whatever, I'm s giving an example,

1587
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm sad, I'm depressed, I'm anxious all the time. We

1588
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: can hold both of those at the same time, and

1589
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: even when we're healing, we can hold both of those.

1590
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: So as we as we move into a point of

1591
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: potentially going no contact for a while, it doesn't mean

1592
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: it has to be that way forever. Sometimes it does

1593
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: have to be. If it's an abusive situation and the

1594
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: other person doesn't do the work. The other person doesn't

1595
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: do the work, you're not safe. You have to But

1596
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: if they do do the work, and what very often

1597
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: happens is once you start doing the work on yourself,

1598
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: you change, and that very often is a sign to

1599
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: people see that, and then they start to do the

1600
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: work themselves and they change. But there's a while that's happening.

1601
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: There's this tremendous conflict. So there's a network that's the

1602
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: bond of a parent and a child or whatever. Then

1603
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: there's the network of on top of that that's this

1604
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: distorted network of this relationship that's gone wrong. Then there's

1605
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: this decision, which is another thought network on top of it.

1606
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: So it's becoming very complicated. Now of I have to heal,

1607
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: I have to disconnect, and now that then all of

1608
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: this meshed up together generates this combination of sorrow and

1609
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: relief at the same time. And there's this calling and

1610
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: this aching, and therefore that's it's a process, and you

1611
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: may ache for the rest of your life. You learn too,

1612
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: some things we just learned to have. We learn to

1613
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: sort of live with them over time, because if that

1614
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: person ever changes, maybe they die by suicide, maybe they

1615
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: whatever the ache is there, it'll stay there. But there's

1616
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: that sort of separation that happens. But this is where

1617
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: eternal perspective is so important, Bishop Jakes, because we need

1618
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: to realize that while we're on this earth, it's a

1619
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: dripping in the ocean. There's a lot more than just

1620
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,839
Speaker 1: on this earth. Whatever people believe, I know your followers

1621
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: do believe in eternal life. Is that that's so important.

1622
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: We have to see this in context. Whatever pain you're

1623
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: going through, whatever pains someone else is going through, is

1624
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: a drop in the ocean. We have to do our

1625
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: best to make sure we are operating in love and

1626
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: finding who we are and releasing the perfect you in us.

1627
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: And even if it means lot these minatias are going

1628
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: to stop. They're still going to come. You're still going

1629
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: to experience all the emotions. That's part of what you

1630
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: have to do as a human. But that's only a

1631
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: tiny drop in the ocean. One day we will have charity,

1632
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: we will have restoration and relationship. But truly believe that,

1633
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: and from us at work as a scientist, nineteen nine

1634
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: point nine percent research confirms that there is once the

1635
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: physical goes there is this life beyond consciousness, exists beyond

1636
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: that and in that state realm, heaven is all around us.

1637
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Whatever that looks like. If we don't hear it on

1638
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: this earth, will there will be a time when we can.

1639
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: So it's to contextualize, and I've seen a lot, and

1640
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: it's deep stuff. And each concept of said needs a

1641
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: few always trying to them, trying to get sort of

1642
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: a big picture.

1643
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: No, but you're doing You're doing a great job. I'm

1644
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 2: close with this, this common and or question a lot

1645
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 2: of times, and this is not true of all cases

1646
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: or rejection, but a lot of times early in our lives.

1647
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: We are superman and superwomen, and we have a tendency

1648
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: to draw to us people who need us. But in

1649
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: the process of drawing to our salespeople who need us.

1650
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: We develop a codependent relationship with them because we need

1651
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: to be needed because it validates our own insecurity. And

1652
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: then they fool around in one chapter of the life

1653
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 2: they really needed you, and the next chapter of their

1654
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: life they get healed. I call it falling in love

1655
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: with your nurse. And all of a sudden, you find

1656
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: yourself in a situation where you are not needed in

1657
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: the same way, and you resent the fact that they're

1658
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: getting better, and you don't know how to develop a

1659
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 2: relationship with a well person because it does not strike

1660
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: your ego, your insecurity, that sort of thing. It could

1661
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: be possible that you were rejected not because you were

1662
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: not well, but because the person that you attached to

1663
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: needed your unwellness in order to feel whole and feel important.

1664
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: So let's not look at it in a microscope. Let's

1665
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 2: back it up and look at it in a telescope

1666
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 2: and begin to understand that there are a lot of

1667
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: variables that go into these kinds of relationships where you

1668
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: end up in relationships where the person needed you to

1669
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 2: be an invalid. There's case after case after case of

1670
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: people who stayed together as long as they had cancer,

1671
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: as long as they were sick, or as long as

1672
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: they were crippled, they got well and all of a

1673
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: sudden was gone. And it seems like it would be

1674
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 2: the opposite, but it's not always the case. Am I

1675
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: right about that?

1676
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Oh? My goodness, totally. So all of this that you've

1677
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: just described, that is a toxic thought that's happened. So

1678
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 1: that person who has created has developed the code of

1679
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: penetal relationship in feeling needed, the need to feel needed.

1680
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Something happened in there. The way we show up is

1681
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: because of there's a because of behind that need. So

1682
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:27,480
Speaker 1: there's a whole toxic thought that has been satisfied incorrectly

1683
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: by actually another toxic situation. So all the green trees

1684
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: of the solution how we should be using the forest

1685
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: analogy from earlier on haven't been tapped into. So what

1686
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 1: one has done in that situation is as one has

1687
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 1: cared for the person in the code of penet relationship

1688
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: and its satisfied something in you. It seemed good actions,

1689
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: but actually the source was toxic. So the source was fed,

1690
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 1: so it grew big and big and bigger. So when

1691
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: the person was healed, there's this massive gap, and that's

1692
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: where there's often a lot of anger and sign so

1693
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: that that person has they have to go and do

1694
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: the work. They have to go and capture that thought

1695
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: and renew their mind to go to that entire fly

1696
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Speaker 1: the prain process, and that'll take sixty three days. What

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Speaker 1: I've shown of my Bishop Jakes is that to rewire

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01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: a network takes at least sixty three days, not the

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01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: twenty one that most people think, because it's become a

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01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: network which is established, it's a habit, it's a way,

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01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: it's a pattern, a thought pattern, and that has to

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01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: be rewired. And this example would be that case as

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01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: someone heals and they move on and now you've got

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01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: this angle or you move on whatever, because it's not satisfying,

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01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: it's not feeding the toxicity anywhere. You have to bate

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01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: it and rewired it. But that's one of the it's

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01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 1: definitely the same sort of concept. It's the toxic codependency

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01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: torama bonding anything toxic in you that you're using someone

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01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: else to help you manage, and it feels like it's

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01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 1: good because it's kind of feeding it, but you're actually

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01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: feeding the toxicity because the celebration of their healing or

1712
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: whatever is not there. When they're healed, you feel it's loss.

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01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: So therefore it was toxic and so you've got to

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01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: do the work on you. Yes, trauma binding, all that kind.

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01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,759
Speaker 2: Of may be. It's not that you love the person.

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01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: You love the way they make.

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01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 1: You feel exactly, which is feeling that toxic.

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01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 2: Issue like that alcohol.

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01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: So why do you need that? That's what you've got

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01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: to work on. You've got to do that. Why do

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01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 1: I need this way that's coming from? What is the source?

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01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Once you know the source, you can then rewinre So

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01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: it's deconstructing the network and reconstructing the network. And that's

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01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: essentially what mind management is. It's kind of the summary

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01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: of everything weaving say.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Carolyn Leaf is in the class hall by yourself.

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01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to my notes that you're

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01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 2: doing it everywhere. I just just've acredible way. But I

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01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 2: don't think this is just about notes or prescripting something.

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01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's deeper than that. I

1731
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: think it's God giving you an opportunity maybe to get

1732
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: a session you couldn't afford. And I'm going to ask

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01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 2: doctor Leaf to just pray for you. In just a moment,

1734
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: we covered a lot of things. All of it didn't

1735
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 2: fit you. You can have all of that at the

1736
01:33:54,560 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: same time. But something did, something brought tears to your eyes.

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01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Something on earthed, something that was buried. And this has

1738
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: been like an archaeologist digging it up and washing it

1739
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 2: off so that you might be made hold. Let's not

1740
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 2: miss this opportunity to ask the presence of the Holy

1741
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 2: Spirit to guide you to the things that were said

1742
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 2: that are most prevalent to you, and to show you

1743
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: what we didn't have time to say, to begin to

1744
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 2: heal and to mend, and to go to the furthest

1745
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 2: extent of all that you're able to do. And I

1746
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 2: dare you to just just just believe. I'm not asking

1747
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: you to be perfect. I'm not asking you to make

1748
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,799
Speaker 2: a vowel of commitment. I'm just asking you, with childlike faith,

1749
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 2: to believe that it's possible to have a next chapter

1750
01:34:58,720 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: in your life.

1751
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: Would you pray for absolutely?

1752
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: I'll be honored. Thank you. My biggest prayer God is

1753
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: that every person listening to us will understand the superpower

1754
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: that you've given us. The mind that you take the

1755
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: time to really get into understanding that ninety nine percent

1756
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: of few we are, and recognition of the stability that

1757
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: we have to think, feel, and choose, which is the

1758
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: currency of the mind. I know this is a hard concept,

1759
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: but help it to become a simple concept that people

1760
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: can absorb. Because once we understand that power that you've

1761
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: placed within us, and we start tuning in and using

1762
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: our minds correctly, that is when we change, and when

1763
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: we change, the world changes. It just takes one person

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01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: to make a difference.

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01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 2: Amen, Listen, we described the surface of an exhaustive conversation

1766
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 2: that I want you to continue to have, not only

1767
01:35:54,840 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: through this podcast, but accessing her materials, personalizing working with her,

1768
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 2: filling out workbooks, writing on the side of the page,

1769
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 2: taking notes, or sharing it with a friend or a

1770
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 2: child who desperately needs it. And I'm going to ask

1771
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: her to tell you how to get in.

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01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bishop Jacks. Well, this doctorlif dot com is

1773
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 1: my website and everything is on there and all the

1774
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: social media platforms. But what I've got are if you

1775
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: want almost like therapy per se, I've got courses that

1776
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,560
Speaker 1: will teach you how to do these very deep philosophical

1777
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: things in very simple, practical steps. As a therapist, I

1778
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: had to develop very simple steps. So there's a course

1779
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: called the twenty one Day Brandy Talks Course. There's a

1780
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 1: course called to Help in a Hurry Course. I also

1781
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: have an app that's available on iTunes and Google Plan

1782
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 1: that takes you through the It's a five step process

1783
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: called the neurocycle, which is how you how you manage

1784
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: your mind. I keep talking about mind management, so the

1785
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: neurocycles like the formula that you can use over the

1786
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: sixty three days, So there's an app. I have books

1787
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: that explain this. I have a podcast, lots of different

1788
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: places social media where you can also find it, book tips.

1789
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 2: I know that helped you to help me, and I

1790
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: want you to have a next chapter, and I want

1791
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: you to live it to the fullest and enjoy it

1792
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: to maximum capacity, and that you might have life and

1793
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: have it more abundantly. I want to thank you for

1794
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: sharing all of your rich information with us and your

1795
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 2: rich experience with us. We are better having said with

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01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: you great.

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01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you for everything that you've been to

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01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: the table. I learned so much. You drag you get

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01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: my unconscious very activated, So thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's good. You've been listening at my next chapter. Make

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01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,839
Speaker 2: sure you have one. If you don't like the chapter

1802
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: you're in, turn the page, grab the pen. You do

1803
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,520
Speaker 2: have the power to rewrite what happens next. Hey everybody,

1804
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 2: I want to take this time to thank you for

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01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: watching the Next Chapter podcast. If this conversation inspired you,

1806
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 2: helped you reflect on an idea, or spark something new

1807
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:03,400
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01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:14,360
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