WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Could You See More Cuts Coming? 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:18.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:23.360 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:33.600 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and NEWI Scrugs. Hey, everybody, 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.120 Welcome to the Players loungebot to you by Hotels dot Com. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.880 I'm the we scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, joined by two 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:43.280 former Dallas Cowboys players, Barry Church and Danny McCray. We 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.600 get their thoughts and views on the NFL from a 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.479 player's perspective. All right, gentlemen, I see one of your 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.680 former teammates guy fired today in the National Football League. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.120 That would be former Dallas Cowboys alignement and offensive line 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:04.480 coach Mark Columbo. So, gentlemen, my first thought when I 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.800 saw this report from ESPN. They said he got into 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.520 a verbal altercation with the head coach, Joe Judge, because 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.760 Joe Judge decided he was gonna bring in a consultant 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.280 and Colombo didn't take too kindly to it, like, hey man, 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.400 this guy's over here, you know, stepping on my territory. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.120 And I immediately thought of that old day Chappelle's kit 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:30.920 that I absolutely loved when keeping it real goals roll man, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.280 I'll tell you what many Joe better been bobbing and 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.119 weaving out there, because look, Colombo's a big dude. Man. 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.880 He bought six eight two eighty something, so hopefully Joe 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.040 Judge was out there bobbing and weaving. But for real, man, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.160 how how much lack of respect you gotta have for 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.200 your head coach? I mean, look, this is the guy 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.960 that hired you. He's putting he's putting food on your 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.240 plate and gift, he's cutting your checks and you said, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:56.880 damn all that, let me go ahead and serve you 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.400 up a couple of these knuckles sandwiches. Man like this 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:04.880 is this is beyond seeing anything like this. But I mean, Colombo, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.480 he was always a fiery guy. Even when we played 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.280 with him, hearing with the Cowboys for that short period 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.640 of time before he left. He was always fiery. He 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.480 was always getting after the scout team. So for me, man, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.840 this isn't a surprise, but man, it is hilarious. So 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.440 so you said Colombo put his hands on Joe Judge. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:26.359 It wasn't verbal, was it physical? We can't hear me crag. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:33.160 Was it was it was verbal? God? Was it verbal? 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:43.120 Or was it physical? Man? Internet boo boo? That's yalloo? 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.799 Oh my goodness. Well, so let's go ahead. We could 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.240 go ahead and run down lsu this he says. Was 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:57.079 it verbal or absolutely not? Oh he's bad. I knew that. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.839 I knew that one getting. I knew that. I knew 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.480 that he was working my brother some lsull. First of all. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.160 First of all, I knew some hate was coming. I 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.200 just want to know was it verbal or physical that 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.200 Columbo put hands on Joe Judge or was it or 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.440 was it just a verbal altercation? I'm saying he put 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.640 hands on him. I don't know that for facts, but 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.679 I'm saying he put hands on it. Goodness, Okay, listen, yeah, hey, 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.239 that's something serious right there. But if you get fired 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.200 over just a little verbal thing, it must have been 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.239 some some real verbal assault for you to go fire 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.560 the guy. Uh, you know, I guess over him being 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.360 mad because you brought somebody into consult the way that 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.920 the old line is playing, I mean, you should expect 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.720 that he was gonna have some feelings about it, and 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.800 you should be mad enough to put up what he 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.320 has to say, and then say all right, now, let's 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.680 put this behind us and go out there and go 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.760 to work. So it had to be something that was 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.640 really outrageous that Columbo was saying the doing to Judge 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.320 to get him fired, especially with j G up there 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.760 having his back. It had to be something that was 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.880 really really out of hand. Good. Now a street the 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.000 streets are saying JG put him on it. They say, hey, look, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.640 hey mccullumbuggo head and handled this work for me real quick. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:13.760 Oh man, think he set him up. Hey man, you 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.760 should go talk to him. You should go talk to him. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.560 And he trying to bring somebody here to run your thing. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.479 You gotta look out, man, I'd say something. If FO 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.840 were you, It's like like, um, you guys weren't here 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.560 for that that time. That to got Roy Williams and 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.480 Patrick Crating them to go down there and tell Jason 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.599 they didn't like how how he was running the offense. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.520 Next thing, you know, they all they all got they 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.800 all got wrecked trying to buy this thing from t 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.440 O about going and complaining about about the offense. But 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.400 uh no, so as far as the verbal physical I'm 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.080 not sure. So I'm not gonna sit up and tell 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.360 that I know for sure. Um, I think we all 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.040 understand and know that the truth will start to come 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.080 out a little bit here later on. Um. But look, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:59.200 I'm just I just found I just found it absolutely funny. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.360 And then I looked at the background of the guy, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.040 the consultant that they were going to bring in. He 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.200 had a relationship with Joe Judge, you know, dating back 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.719 into their days with the Patrons, and when Jason was hired, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.880 Jason brought Colombo with him. So for me, it's not 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.640 a surprise that a head coach is going to bring 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.000 in someone he knows. You guys know this better than 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.800 me because your players. This is an industry where guys 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.440 hire their friends and like to bring in their friends, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.960 and when the situations get a little bit tight or 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.800 they get uncomfortable, they rely on their friends to try 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.400 and help them out. Or even if he was bringing 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.120 that guy in there to be a sounding board to 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.200 let him know what was going on with Colombo. I mean, 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.119 this is this is the way that the league works. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.479 I mean, I can understand why Colombo was so solty. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.520 I mean, coming from a player's perspective, that's like, you know, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:49.600 you're playing good. You're playing good at a position, and 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.279 drafted guy in the first round he's right behind you. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.640 He's your backup. And as you know, as the weeks 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.880 go on, he starts getting more and more reps with 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.280 the ones here and there. He starts backing you up. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.360 In the walk throughs, they're telling them, hey, just stand 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.520 right behind that guy back there and learned from from 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.640 one of the best. And then what happens next that 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.640 guy ends up stilling your job. So I can understand 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.960 why Colombo was bad, But I mean to get to 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.200 the to the verbal altercations or or the or the 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:18.400 haymakers being thrown. I mean, listen, I waited to draw 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.719 this up. I'm waiting for I'm waiting for Anonymous to 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.040 come out, man, because I know it's more to it 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.000 than just just a consultant coming in bro like like 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.480 I mentioned it, doing something like this. Columbo woke up 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.480 one morning. He had no idea that this consultant was 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.440 coming in to dude was sitting in this cheer in 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.719 the meeting room with the pointer like hey, yeah, hey, 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.200 this is this is what I think you're doing wrong. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.400 And then Columbo went to go talk to Judge and 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.839 it didn't go as Judge expected because he forgot to 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.760 let Columbo know that he was hiring this guy. So 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.400 it's more to it and we're gonna get it. Anonymous 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.560 gonna lace us up. I'm sure they're gonna let us know. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.760 And mc cray as we both know, and McRae as 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.360 we both know. Man, special teams coaches, they're one of 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.880 the most fiery guys on the whole team, like as 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.600 a specialty. Every coach we've had, I mean Pisachi, uh, Decamiller's, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.840 they were always that just fiery, just you know, put 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.760 their heart on their sleeve. They'll tell you no matter 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.440 who you are, they'll tell you how they really feel. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.640 So I can see how that could go down that 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:20.800 way when you keep real goals, rang keeping the real 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.760 goal from hey, let me tell you someth for a 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.120 regular day, I found out that there was Dave sitting 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.640 right there the head coaches Dave. Dave was his boy 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.800 and he was going to watch over him and Mark No. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.960 I can listen. I vibe with Colombo. Look, hey, man, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.160 if you felt disrespected, and you know what I'm saying, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:42.800 and that's how you and that's how you're gonna handle 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.480 it you say, man, forget this job. I'm gonna go 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.320 ahead and tell the do how I feel. Hey, dude, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.480 you gotta do man, Colombo got enough bread to go 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.280 sit at home for a little bit. JJ gonna take 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.240 care of when you take over the head coaching job. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.600 The more important question, who do y'all think? One? Who 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.679 do y'all think ended up walking out there with the victory? 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:06.280 Who who got the better of situation? This dude want 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.560 to see a fight and nobody okay, So so since 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.320 y'all don't want us, I'm gonna go ahead and say. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.720 I'm gonna go ahead and say Colombo gave him the 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.920 two piece with a biscuit, and I don't think it 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.880 went I don't think it went far because Columbo's kind 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.840 of heavy handed. He's a big dude. So I'm gonna 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.760 say Colombo gave him the biscuit, gave him to work, 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.239 and then uh, you know, just fired him on the spot, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.400 just like that. Colombo lost a lot of weight, man, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.280 he lost a lot of weight. Church. I don't know, man, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.320 And it's true. I'm gonna go I'm going against nose dumbers, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.319 So anything that you say, I'm gona saying it was opposite. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.640 So I got to say that that that just had 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.480 the low leverage. The low leverage, the low man wins broth. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.200 He started working on them, ds man, he started working ones, 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.640 and it was over after that easy low man wins, 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.560 and and he fired that guy, so he got he 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:54.600 got a double women. What I do wonder was this 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.440 a one on one you know thing, or was it 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.520 done in a group setting? You know, I mean that 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.680 we'll find out a lot more, but that's gonna be 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.400 be real interesting to see how it goes. I think 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.520 it was. It had to be a group setting. Somebody 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.839 had to hype him up. Somebody was like, you know what, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.880 this ain't right, Colombo. You gotta go out there, and 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.720 you gotta let this guy know how you feel, because 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:16.960 I don't think on your own, you're just gonna be like, man, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.240 you know what, let me go ahead and hold at 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.200 this coach. I gotta see something off my chest. So 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.360 somebody had to hype him up. I'm not saying it 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.520 was church, but who know, church, It sounds like you 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.559 got some It sounds like you got some inside and 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.600 information over there. All right. You brought the physical altercation 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.120 and now you're talking about you know, he wented it 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.839 sound like you know a little bit more than you 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:40.040 letting on. All right, you know, I'm just hey, I'm 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.400 just I'm just put trying to put the facts together. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.559 And you know, in the streets, the streets, they tell 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.120 me some things. Man, Oh okay, the streets. Okay, I'm 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.480 turning back together. That's it turned on a little and 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.680 then knew it, knew it. Two weeks from now he 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.679 gonna be talking about nostre dumbers. He was able to 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.480 see it with his powers. But really we know that 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:02.600 he came some inside and source. It's all good. Man 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.560 was buried. If you if you watched the Boondocks cartoon 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:13.560 always okay, So remember the episode when Tom and Sarah 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.320 meant usher and then oh yeah, sits down at the table. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.880 The next thing you know, he's singing, Sarah smile, and 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.800 then the way that looks at Tom, He's like, wouldn't 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:26.959 happened to me? Oh yeah, that's what happened. Somebody with 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.480 the Colombo that what happened to me? Walked on off 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.280 and then here Colombo went up in there. Hey Joe, Joe, Joe, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.000 I'm not about this man, What's what's up? With this man, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.760 you and your buddy Joe for y'all think I'm taking 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.400 off from me, you know who? Then he bowled up 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:44.200 on it. Yeah it was man. Yeah, man, somebody walked by. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.000 I don't know, I can't. I hope columb gonna land 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.520 on the steat Man. We over landing, man, he got fired. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.960 I hope he landed on the steat. Bro. You know, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.160 that's a that's a tough that's a tough thing to do. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:54.720 You know, we just we just we just we just 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.040 shooting a little bit. But that's a that's a tough thing. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.520 Like you said, Jill, look a look out for him. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:07.160 You know, they'll get him right, we'll see we should. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.160 I see it. Hate to see it happened. Hate to 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.000 see it happened so close to the holidays, But hey, 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.360 it is what it is. We're all grown there. It 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.920 don't sound like you made it allway. It don't sound 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.520 like you made it all You actually sound a little happy. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.960 You saw a smiler. I see a little grin on 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:30.800 your face on the screen. If this this man did 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.520 what he wanted to do, because he's a grown man, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.680 go ahead, but right on the end, like I said, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.160 if you felt like that's what you want to do, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.640 then go ahead. You know, hate to see it happened, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.600 but you know it is what it is. The Giants 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.000 are playing good football. They'll move on without him. Who knows, man, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.120 maybe the Giant Tea didn't win this division. Maybe it 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:52.480 gallanizes the football. Heck, you ain't just saying that, man, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.880 Just say the Giants might win a division after you 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.440 on the Cowboys. I can't. I can't believe it. Just 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.320 saying that it's swiders when the Giants have played improved football. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.000 If you start to look at what they've done in the 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.920 the last three weeks, they had played some improved football. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.600 And did you just say the NFC East is wide open? 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.600 Did you say the nfcast wide it is? It is 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.679 wide open? The church it is wild now, So y'all ya, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.200 I'll try to act like I was crazy a couple 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.640 of weeks ago when y'all were now all saying the 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.840 same thing about the NFC's being wide open. We got 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.160 a chance, no man, that's no no, no, no, no, no no, 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.000 no no wh when no no church. When we say 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.600 wide open, we meet people's records. Anybody could win it 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.360 based on their record. We're not talking about the Cowboys 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.280 going out and making this run and win it. We 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.719 all have the Cowboys not making the playoffs. We're not. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:41.160 We are to you solo. You're solo, bro, you solo. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.120 You know you. I was just making sure we all 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.319 all the same page. Now you are the lone wolf. Yes, 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.880 you are the lone wolf. Okay, let's take our first 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.320 break when we come back, um my friends. 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So Jack Taylor 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.680 wrote a column for the Dallas Morning News and it 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.480 centered on linebacker Jalen Smith where he talks about Jalen 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.040 has had a very disappointing season and basically that Jalen 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.080 has got to show the Cowboys something in these final 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.840 seven games or they could either ask him to take 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.880 a pay cut in twenty twenty one or even cut him, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.520 and that his guaranteed money is basically already been paid now. 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.400 I also checked out Pro football Folks dot com and 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:39.840 they did a little story talking about disappointing players for 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.040 every NFL team and when it got to the Cowboys, 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.800 this is what they said. I'm gonna read from it 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.320 says Jalen Smith and Linton Vanderesh looked like a pair 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.600 of future stars at linebacker for the Cowboys back in 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.520 twenty eighteen. They ranked fifth and sixth respectively, and Pro 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.440 Football Focus great at the position that season. Vanderesh is 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.800 injury in a dipping play from Smith in twenty and 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.360 twenty In twenty nineteen, damping some of that optimism, but 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.679 there were still reason to be excited about the duo. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.639 With Vanderesh returning healthy in twenty twenty, neither has looked 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.080 all that reminiscent of the players that we saw two 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.320 years ago, though Smith has earned a fifty three point 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:19.000 four grade and Vanderesh comes in a tad hired fifty 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.920 five point three and another injury shortened season. Thus far, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.520 their disappointing play is a part of the reason that 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:29.080 the Cowboys defense has underperformed this year generally. Do you 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.560 think that's fair from Pro Football Focus? And do you 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.960 think Jack Taylor is on or something when he says 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.879 that Jalen Smith could be cut by the Cowboys are 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:41.760 asked for a reduced salardy. I'll start with you, McCray. Yeah, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.840 I mean, you know, we talked about this earlier. They're 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.199 gonna be asking a lot of guys to take some 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.120 pay cuts or get released just because the salary cap 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.399 might get a little lore, and you know, we're looking 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.280 on ways that we can get back paid. I think 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.680 he's absolutely spot on correct with you know, those two 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.160 are a reason for the defense not playing as well 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.960 as we expected them to play. But with that being said, 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.840 everybody that's on our defensive roster is a reason for 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.880 us not being not being as good as we thought 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.520 we were a lot of the guys that are making 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.880 a lot of money aren't playing up to their standard, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.240 and our defensive backs aren't playing up the standard either. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.800 That's why I keep leaning on coaching, because it's it's 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.200 got to be something going on for all of these guys, 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.919 like every level of our defense to somehow not be 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.760 prepared and not be ready to play it to the 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.160 best of their ability. So I'm putting it a little 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.520 bit on them, but more on coaching. But yeah, they 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.680 will be asked. They should be asking him to take 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:35.199 a major pay cut next season. Yeah, for me, I 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.400 agree with with Jacques and Danny on this one. I mean, look, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.280 the numbers don't lie. I mean, his play has dipped 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.239 ever since that twenty eighteen season when he was just 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.280 out there making splash play after splash play and just 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.520 you know, basically taking over this defense from Sean Lee. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.640 So for me, on the dipping play and the fact 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.920 that his guarantee, if that is correct, that his guarantee 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.520 money is already up with this contract, I say, you 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.240 can give them that option. You got to tell him, hey, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.320 you either gonna take this pay cut or you know 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.560 you're gonna you find yourself as a free agent. And 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.120 that's why these last you know, six games are so 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.280 important because, like mcraize said, a lot of these cats, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.560 not just Jayalen Smith, but a lot of these cats, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.800 they're they're going out there and they're playing for their jobs. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.639 I mean these last couple of games, not only for 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.879 the NFC East, but like I said, for their jobs 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.320 in the future. So for me, I think Jacque is right. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.760 I think Danny's right on this one. They should be 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.720 able to ask him for a pay cut if he 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.240 doesn't improve his play in these last couple of games. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.960 So let me go back to something I mentioned earlier 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.360 this week on the Players Lounge, and this comes back 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.160 to the whole scheme thing. You've got Layton Vanderesh. When 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.359 we saw Layton at his best making the Pro Bowl, 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.800 he was playing outside linebacker. Mike Nolan comes in and 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.400 makes him a middle linebacker, a middle linebacker coming off 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.040 a neck injury, and then you can take Jalen and 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.320 you take him from the middle and you put him 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.919 on the outside. So have the code. She got this 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.120 even right and putting the guys in their best positions 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:09.320 in your opinion, correct, Listen. I think if the scheme 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.920 and the players played the way that Nolan's seen it 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:13.639 on paper and the way that he probably saw it 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.639 in the past, I think this wouldn't be an issue. 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.240 When you have the defensive line not playing up to 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.119 the standard and you got offensive lineman coming off and 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.280 always being on vander Esh and Jaylen Smith, then it 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.120 makes it hard for them to do their job. So 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.760 scheme wise, I think that they if it was run perfectly, 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.280 they will be able to make some of the players 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.119 that they that they made it in the past and 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.560 they would probably be Pro Bowl players. But when you're 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.000 not performing up front, it hinders them. So when they're 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.000 not even playing up to their hundred percent level, it 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.720 makes it look even worse. So scheme wise, I think 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.840 they can, you know, we get a new guy in here, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:47.960