1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: And we welcome you into a Football Tuesday edition of 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: the Best Podcast Available, episode number thirty six, and Jason 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: gives alongside Andrew Gribble and coming up on today's program, 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: we continue to get to know our front office and 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: coaching staffs and our chief of staff today as Kelly 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Brownson will join us, Kevin Stefanski's chief of staff, very 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: very busy person in this time, during this pandemic and 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: trying to orchestrate everything and coordinate everything all from Afar. 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: So we look forward to sitting down with her. Gribbs. Uh, 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: you know, we have an episode today, We have an 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: episode Thursday that we're gonna be off for a couple 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: of weeks. Catch our breath a little bit. Everybody's going 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: to be out of the out of the building. That 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: was in the building. We're gonna be out of the building. 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: We've been out of the building. Who knows when we're 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: going back in the building. Uh, But we'll get a 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: few weeks off in the b p A. We'll be 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: back around training camp when that is supposed to start, 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: supposed to start. We'll see what happens with that. Gribbs. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: I hope you had a good weekend last week. The 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: one thing we did not get to. Yeah, he talked 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: the day that our podcast came out, and that was 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: our head coach, Kevin Stefanski. Uh takeaways from Coach as 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: he wrapped up the Browns Virtual offseason program, Well, I 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: think the first thing was I like that he admitted 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: that even though it was all virtual, we we've seen 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: it every year, but when it gets near the end 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: of the offseason program, guys are ready to be done. 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 1: And I think he acknowledged that even in the virtual setting, 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: you could tell guys are ready to get on with 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: their vacation, and I think that's good. I mean that 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: that shows that they were working hard during this period. 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: And I think the the obvious thing that he acknowledged 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: that I don't think a lot of fans understand is 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: that this will longer than it usually is. And I 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: think that they use that to their benefit in terms 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: of what constraints they had on it, and it meant 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: that they were able to do have a lot more meetings, 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: and I think that that that's something that they just 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: don't get a ton of time with in the spring 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: typically obviously lose the benefits of getting these guys in 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: the field. But it does sound like, especially near the 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: end of this program, when they really started to get 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: a better grasp on the virtual thing and really found 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: ways to really be engaging with the technology, I think 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: they feel pretty good about where the offense is at, 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: or even the defense in general. Uh, it's just now 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: going to be a matter of how do you implement 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: these virtual things which aren't going away. Even when you 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: get into a training camp setting, you're gonna have a 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: mix and match of both. But obviously the on field 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: work is gonna bring everyone together. But then you've got 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: a plan for basically the rest of it to be 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: like what you've doing been doing during the spring. Yeah, 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: I mean outside of training camp, the actual practice or 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: the walk through that normally happens, you know, before the practice. 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: It either happens in the morning or depending on when 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna practice, it could happen at the end of 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: the day. Outside of those two things, everybody's going to 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: be a part and I know that they're changing our 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: building up to reflect that, and you know, trying to 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: figure out how to keep everybody at a safe distance 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: outside of when they practice. Yes, the Fansky throughout the 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: idea of like potentially for your team meeting, you broadcast 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: it into different parts of the building, which just seems 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: so strange when you think about it, but it's just 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: kind of the new reality that you're dealing with with 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: having a ton of people in a small space. I mean, 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: you just gotta be safe as much as possible. So 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I think it's just one of these things though, that 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna be following all the way up until the 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: day that these guys report, uh, because I just think 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: the technology, the research is evolving, our knowledge is evolving, 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and just what implementations you can do. I think the 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: testing is a volving You're you're, you're, you're gonna want 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to try to have the most efficient testing possible, uh, 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: to get to get this off the ground. And you know, 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: again I've said this before. The more we talk about 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: all the stuff that's going into place with these NFL 80 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: teams who have unified leadership, players having one kind of 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: singular voice through their players union, I just I just 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: wonder what is going on with college football because I 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: just I mean, this is a lot to work through 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: from an NFL standpoint with with kind of two clear 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: sides working together on a common goal, with not limitless resources, 86 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: but a lot more resources than most colleges have. It's 87 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be interesting to see how colleges can 88 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: can do this when when the NFL is really I 89 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't say struggling, but there, you know, they're working through 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: all the fine points to to create the safest possible environment. 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: I think some of the other takeaways from coach Um 92 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: obviously something we we know inside the building that maybe, 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: excuse me, the rest of the media may or may 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: not know, but just how you know, Kareem Hunt and 95 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb worked together. You know, no one's got an agenda. 96 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Everybody wants they're on the same page. They just they 97 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: both of them just want to win and they want 98 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: to contribute to a winning football team. You know, I 99 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: think everybody's worried about how many carries, who's you know, 100 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: who's going to carry the ball which how many times? 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: And each week, who's gonna get who's gonna be the 102 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: primary ball handler or who How are those roles going 103 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: to be defined? But it definitely sounds like no one 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: really in the building, and we've known this again, no 105 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: one really has a problem with that right now inside 106 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: that inside that building, no and I think that's a 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: good approach to have, and we we never really saw 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: much frustration out of either of those those guys last 109 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: year UHT during the second half of the year, even 110 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: during kind of the losing situations. And and that's where, honestly, 111 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: that's where you get tested. I mean, because you're not 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: you're not gonna go sixteen and oh so you're gonna 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: have some times when you go into a game plan 114 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: and it features one player and it doesn't feature another player, 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and then you lose that game and it's on that 116 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: player who wasn't featured to not get to not get 117 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: frustrated by it. Just because the team lost and you 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: didn't get featured doesn't mean that there's an overall problem. 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: I think it's about buying into the plan. And I 120 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: think that that's kind of been what the Spring has 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: been about, is selling these guys on the plan on 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: the offense, knowing that just because if you don't get 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: featured one week, you're probably gonna be up next week. 124 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: You just gotta be ready when your opportunity presents itself. 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: And and the stuff we've heard from Kareem and Nick Chubb, 126 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: I think there's some genuine excitement that they can make 127 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: this work with two really good running backs on top 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: of two wide receivers, a Pro Bowl tight end, and 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of people to feature, and it's 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: just impossible to get everyone involved in kind of a 131 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: balanced away each week. So it's just about buying into 132 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: the concept, seeing it work, uh, and then knowing that 133 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: even if one week did not feature you and the 134 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: result wasn't the same, that that you'll be back up 135 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: next week with a chance to win and produce. Yeah. 136 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: The other big note, obviously, Odell Beckham Junior seems to 137 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: be ready to go and we'll be ready for come 138 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: training camp. Jarvis continues his rehab and continues to make 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: strides and things are looking good on that end. Obviously, 140 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the team going to take their time with them once 141 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: we get into training camp, even though Odell is officially 142 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: a full go um. But he did say like it 143 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: was one of the big reasons why they brought Richard 144 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Higgins back on that one year show me deal, and 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: it was the chemistry he has with Baker Mayfield and 146 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: the fact that someone else is going to have to 147 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: step up in that wide receiver room if for whatever reason, 148 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Landry or O'Dell hit a speed bump here on the recovery. Yeah, 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: and it was last year training camp. It happened when 150 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: you didn't want it to, and that you really couldn't 151 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: work in O'Dell and Jarvis as much as you wanted, 152 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: and he ended up having guys on the first team 153 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: that never really made the team even I mean Jalen 154 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Strong was with the first team for weeks he and 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: he didn't even make it to the final cuts. And 156 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean you so you've got like, now, you know, 157 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: going into training camp, even though Odell is back to 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: you're just gonna throw them out there and be like 159 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: you're you're playing every rep here. I mean, and you 160 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: know Jarvis is gonna be limited, uh through camp or 161 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: or parts parts of camp. I mean, he's coming back 162 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: from a serious injury. So now you've got a bunch 163 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: of young guys that you're gonna be working in. And 164 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I think it is good to have that one reliable 165 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: guy back with Richard Higgins who has relationship with Baker Mayfield. 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: You also bring back Damian Ratley, who's who's logged a 167 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: couple of good years from you. The key for him 168 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: will be staying healthy during training camp, So, uh, there 169 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: will be big opportunities for these young guys right away 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: to contribute at that wide receiver position. But it is 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: good to have. It's crazy to think this is Richard 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Higgins fifth year in the NFL coming up. I mean 173 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: he's he's now a veteran, so I mean he's going 174 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: to be the older guy in the room and the 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: older guy getting reps out there. Yeah, definitely something to 176 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: watch as we get in a training camp. A lot 177 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: of them being made about the linebacker spot and you know, 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills, can he how quickly will he pick up 179 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: the whole left tackle thing? But uh, that third wide 180 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: receiver is gonna be a pretty valuable component to this offense, 181 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: especially if there's a hiccup. You know, God forbid and 182 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: knock on wood. With the top two wide receivers on 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: your football team. That's a look at what's happening with 184 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the Browns. Time now for our interview of the week, 185 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and it's a chance to sit down with coach Stefanski's 186 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: chief of staff, Kelly Brownson. A very impressive young lady 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: who has already accomplished a lot GRIBs and someone that 188 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: has a very bright future in this business and in 189 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: this industry, and she's running things and it wasn't so 190 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: much to get to know because a lot has been 191 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: made about her hiring and we've gotten to know her, 192 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: and she's awesome, and trust me, she is a very 193 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: cool person to talk to and hang out with. But 194 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: just how she's had to handle things here in the 195 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: last fifteen weeks. Yeah, I'd say clearly, the thing that 196 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: jumps out to you is how organized she is and 197 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: and how on top of things, both with Stefanski and 198 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: really the entire coaching staff in general. It's it's just 199 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: it's such a huge job. And then first Stefanski, I 200 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: think he's known how to maximize what she's doing because 201 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: he's done it before. So I think just an incredible 202 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: experience that she's getting and I think will ultimately vaulter 203 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: on into what she ultimately wants to become as a 204 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. Alright, with that, have a lunch 205 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: and have a listen, and here all the best podcast available. 206 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: This is our get to know segment of the week. 207 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: And we've been getting to know a number of the 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: assistant coaches the front office. Now we get to know 209 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: our chief of staff, Callie Brownson, appreciate a few minutes 210 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: of your time, Kellie, and uh, welcome to Cleveland. I 211 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: see that you are officially in your office. Uh while 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: gribbles in his panic room and I am behind I 213 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: got fruit behind me. That's where I'm at in life. 214 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: So welcome to Cleveland. You're officially in the office. And 215 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: how have things been going going for you here during 216 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: this really crazy time? Yeah, crazy is a is a 217 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: good serm for it. But uh, you know, it's it's 218 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: good to be back in the office. It's definitely different. Uh, 219 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: the atmosphere is a lot different than we left it, 220 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: especially this time a year when this would be very 221 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: busy for us coaches in and our players in and out. Uh, 222 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a different world. But at the end of the day, 223 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: when when all this happened, we we pledge that we 224 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: were going to make the most of it and and 225 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: and and get hard to work. And that's exactly what 226 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: we've done. Kind of if you can go back in time, 227 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: and this is crazy because Jason I talked about all times, 228 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: going back to like the combine when everything was felt normal, 229 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: I guess in the world and then kind of take 230 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: me through what it was like when it's getting your 231 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: March nine, March tenth, and it's looking like that things 232 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: are gonna maybe be a little bit different here for 233 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: a while. What was it like in your world of it? Yeah, 234 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: So it's funny you say combine because I'm walking from 235 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: the hotel to Lucas Oil and I'm listening I'm my 236 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: air my air pods in and I'm listening to a 237 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: podcast and they're talking about everything going on with COVID 238 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: nineteen and the Corona virus and all of this speculation 239 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: of how it's gonna spread. We're looking at things that 240 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: were happening over in Europe and and obviously in China 241 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: and so forth, and I'm kind of like sitting there like, 242 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: oh gosh, this might actually be something. And then, of course, 243 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: then you know, from my perspective from an operational standpoint, 244 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm already starting to be like, well, what are we 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna do? Um? But again, it was kind of just 246 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: like thinking ahead and not really thinking any of that 247 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: stuff was gonna was gonna actually affect us in the 248 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: way that it has. And as the you know, we 249 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: got back and we're still in our mode post Combine 250 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: and doing the things that we need to do from 251 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: a coaching staff perspective, evaluating these prospects every week that 252 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: seemed to creep closer and closer. It was like this impending, 253 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: Like this is real, Like this is real, and it's 254 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna affect us in a big way. You started to 255 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: see us, you know, major cities around the US starting 256 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: to shut down restaurants and retail stores and all that stuff, 257 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: and it became extremely real and for us, it was 258 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: immediately straight to you know, what are we gonna do 259 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: about it? Um, you know? And I sat down with 260 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: coach and we said, if we have to run this 261 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: offseason program in a way that's never been done in 262 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, how are we going to 263 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: do it? Not just how are we going to do it, 264 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: but how are we going to do it better than 265 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: thirty one other teams. We're a new staff, you know, 266 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: first year head coach. We're trying to get our bearings. 267 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: We made a lot of changes obviously on the roster, 268 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces on the team just in general. 269 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: We had to find a way to be the most 270 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: innovative team to do it virtually, uh, And that was 271 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: a challenge that I took very seriously. He took very 272 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: seriously on our entire coaching staff, took a lot of 273 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: pride and facing that challenge head on. How differently do 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: things look during the final week compared to week one? 275 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Just from a virtual standpoint, I mean, just like everybody else, 276 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're all more comfortable that first couple of 277 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: weeks getting people on, getting people talked on, getting then 278 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: comfortable with the different tools that we were using to 279 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: go over installs and watch film. Um, it's almost like 280 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: second nature now. You know, in the beginning, you're sending 281 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: out a lot of messages making sure everything is as 282 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: clear as possible. And UM, you know, a credit to 283 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: our players who really bought in early. They bought in 284 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: super early, UM and understood that this was the atmosphere. 285 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I tell coach all the time, what 286 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: a sense of pride we have in the in the 287 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: guys that we have on this roster, especially because of 288 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: how they traded this, this virtual offseason program and buying 289 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: in UM. And now it's like second nature to them. 290 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: They're almost like, I know, I know how to do that, 291 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, UM, which is great. And like I said, 292 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: when you're putting a tough adverse situation like that. Attitude 293 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: is everything. And I would say that between our coaching 294 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: staff and our players, the support staff are I t 295 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: video department, everybody had the best attitude possible to face 296 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the challenge of doing this better than anybody else really 297 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: in the league. Kelly Brownson, our guests, the chief of 298 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: staff for one, Kevin Stefanski of the Cleveland Browns, and 299 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: so much more than that. So you're going through all 300 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: these things, you're new to Cleveland, and then your coach, 301 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: our head coach is in Minnesota, he gets stranded there. 302 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: What were the challenges of being his chief of staff 303 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: when you can't see him except I'm a zoom call. Yeah, 304 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: And I think at face value, you look at those 305 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: challenges like, you know, sitting down in a room with you, 306 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: we can get a ton of stuff done, and we 307 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: can you know, ham around a bunch of these tasks. 308 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: But you know, I think nobody is a stranger to 309 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, coach the Fancy is a 310 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: phenomenal communicator, and that helped me a ton um. I 311 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: tried to you know, step up, you know, level up 312 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: basically in my communication to ensure that the time that 313 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: we got was as productive as possible. Um and and 314 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's a phenomenal leader, and and how he's 315 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: led myself, how he's led this coaching staff, how he's 316 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: led this team through the whole process and and navigating 317 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: a pretty difficult time. You know, he never seemed phase 318 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: by it. And that was exactly what trickled down to 319 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: everybody else is is this is what it is, and 320 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: and we're going to make this as productive as possible. 321 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: So if it's me getting in for fifteen minutes on 322 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: a zoom call to tackle what really could take an 323 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: hour and a half, we got it done. Because that's 324 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: just the way he operates, that's the way he communicates, 325 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: and that's just the way he approaches those things. You know, 326 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: you guys are nearing the end of the virtual off 327 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: season program, But what are what are some of the 328 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: things you and and coach are kind of walking through 329 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: now as training camp gets closer and closer, we're just 330 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: preparing for every possible scenario we can. You know, we 331 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: have to be ready to roll. Much like what we 332 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: did with the off season program. We're gonna get dealt 333 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: a certain you know, deck of cards, and we've got 334 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: to be ready to roll um and again we've got 335 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: to be ready to roll as a new staff and 336 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: and and and get things done, uh, you know, and 337 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: make sure that our players are assimilating into, you know, 338 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: not just the system, but the culture, getting them back 339 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: in the building hopefully and doing those things. You know, 340 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: we want to establish that culture that we've been trying 341 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: to build all off season program and now doing it 342 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: in person when you actually do get to establish some 343 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: of that rapport and do what you need to do. 344 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: So what we're doing on the front end right now 345 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: is just trying to prepare for absolutely any possible scenario 346 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: that could come and make sure, you know, we're vetting 347 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: every facet of those details to make sure we're being 348 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: efficient and most importantly, we're keeping our players and our 349 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: coaches and our staff as safe as possible in that 350 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: process is extremely important to us right now as well. 351 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: And obviously the NFL's ultra competitive. Everyone wants to do 352 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: things the best possible way in their own buildings. But 353 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: is this such a unique situation where you are taking 354 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: tips from other teams, are trying to find out what 355 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: they're doing and maybe picking up some of the best 356 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: things practices you've ever matter or is it still kind 357 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: of you do your own thing and figure it out 358 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: on your own. Yeah. I think it's a mixture. I think, 359 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, this is a learn from 360 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: each other kind of league. Um, I think we're all 361 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: curious because all of our situations based off of facility 362 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: set up and accessibility to field. Everybody's situation is a 363 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: little bit different. You almost have to be unique and 364 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: have some individuality and how you approach your strategy. But yeah, 365 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean we're all trying to figure out how everybody 366 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: else is going to do it and try and be 367 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: most efficient. Um. And again, like the biggest part about it. 368 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: I'll talk about winning football games and all that stuff 369 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: because it's extremely important, but right now, more than anything, 370 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: it's about you know, who's coming up with the most 371 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: innovative practices to keep everybody safe. Like that's really what 372 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: we want above all. Um, you know, nothing matters if 373 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: we can't keep our players safe, if we can't keep 374 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: our our coaches safe and healthy. Um, those things are 375 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: super important. So I would say there is a lot 376 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: of talk, um and collaboration around the league on best 377 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: safety practices as well. First full time female coach in 378 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: Division one history, last season and intern with the Buffalo Bills, 379 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: and uh a plethora of years either playing football or 380 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: coaching with some of the best. What's the best piece 381 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: of advice you've ever gotten as it pertains to this 382 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: and and eventually where you want to go in terms 383 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: of coaching? You know, I heard this from my professor 384 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: my senior year of UM of undergrad Charlie cast really 385 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: actually was no stranger to the NFL. Was actually my 386 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: senior seminar professor, George Nation and UM he at the 387 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: top of our every every day we class us, he 388 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: would actually give us a detailed itinerary UM and at 389 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: the top of it always said, what did you do 390 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: today to help us win? And in the beginning of 391 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: the semester that meant football games, right or baseball games 392 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: or whatever may be. At the end of the semester 393 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: he clarified on that message that winning is in the 394 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: little moments. Winning is in being more efficient, finding ways 395 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: to be more organized, helping coaches get more prepared. Winning 396 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: is in finding that little detail you know that that's 397 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: bet that you spent two extra hours in the film 398 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: where I'm trying to find. Winning is in becoming a 399 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: better communicator with your players and those things. And so 400 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: that's my biggest piece of advice and I actually have 401 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: it plastered right next to my desk on a piece 402 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: of paper. What did what did you do today to 403 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: help us win? How did you add value? How did 404 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: you make us a better organization, a better football team? 405 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: How did you help clach coach the fansky do his 406 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: job better? UM? And I think when you have that attitude, 407 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: no matter where you are, no matter what you're doing, 408 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: no matter what that facet is, you're not only contributing, 409 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: but you're growing. You're tasking yourself to grow and to 410 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: get better. And that's really what UM football has always 411 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: been about for me, is adapting, growing and UM and 412 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of the way I approached every day. Well, 413 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: what's maybe the best bit of feedback you've gotten those 414 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: since you took on this job, And what's maybe the 415 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: best thing you heard from maybe some some people who 416 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: are are are aspiring to be in the position you're 417 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: in now today. UM. I think one of the biggest 418 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: things that that I try to reflect as well is 419 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: is and I think we're doing a good job. And 420 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: I want to talk for you know, women across the 421 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: league as well. In this regard um, one of the 422 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: biggest things is oh, well I I they they accept you. 423 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: You know, It's it's almost like a seamless transition for 424 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: you to be a part of the staff. I think 425 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: there's such a perception outside of this as there's a 426 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: female on staff and so forth. But again, you're brought on, 427 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: You're hired to bring value and to bring something to 428 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: the table. The second that you do, you know, your 429 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: seat is at the table. Period. And I think that's 430 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: what I try to reflect all the time is this 431 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: is not an abnormality. This is a great addition that 432 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: can happen to organizations and teams. And I try to 433 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: reflect that, and and there's been a lot of great feedback, 434 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: and I think it if I can continue to inspire 435 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: women to not be intimidated or shy to chase after 436 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: a dreamer a goal like this, just understand that once 437 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: you earn a seat at the table, you do have 438 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: a seat at the table. You earned that, you're there, 439 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: keep growing and and and it's it's it's it's really 440 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: a great opportunity once you get there. All right, about 441 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: your specific position, what's the what's the one thing that's 442 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: surprised you most about the chief of staff position. Um, 443 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, I knew coming into it there'd be a 444 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: lot of collaboration around the building. Um, I guess I 445 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't know how much. And here we are, and I 446 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: love it. Honestly, it's my favorite part. I would say, Um, 447 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: I think sometimes football gets kind of cut in half. 448 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: You have football and they have the business side and 449 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: all these things. And for me, especially in an organization 450 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: like this, where it's what our ownership really believes him, 451 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: it's cohesiveness. It's been it's been a pleasure for me 452 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: to be able to work across the board with everybody. 453 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, how can we make the Cleveland Browns better? 454 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Like obviously the job has its tasks of uh, you know, 455 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: how are we being a more efficient football team? How 456 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: are we doing these things? But how are we making 457 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: the organization better? How are we making the culture within 458 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: our building better? That's been to me My favorite part 459 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: is to get to know everybody around the building to 460 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: help contribute in a way, um, that that we're getting 461 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: better as an organization every day. All right, you played safety, 462 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: you played running back, you played slot wide receiver. What 463 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: was the best position you played. I like free safety 464 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: the most, and that's controversial because I had fun doing 465 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: everything I did. But there's something about playing safety and 466 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: just getting to be an athlete cracks some heads and 467 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: um and make quarterbacks scared to throw deep on you. 468 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: I love that a lot. It was one of my 469 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: favorite things. I learned a lot about the game of 470 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: football playing that position, just as a whole bigger picture. Um, 471 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: and I just got to have fun. You know. Wide 472 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: receiver is fun, running back is a lot of fun. 473 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: Returning kicks is a lot of fun. But I kind 474 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: of liked being uh, you know, let off the belt 475 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: and ready to roll, you know, and just get to 476 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: play football and have a little bit of fun. That 477 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: was my Those are some of my favorite memory. Okay, Um, 478 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: do you see yourself trending more towards the defensive side 479 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: of the football the offensive side. I know you did 480 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: some special teams work in Buffalo as well. You know, 481 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: I love it all. And one of the things coach 482 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: the fans, he'll tell you, and I couldn't agree more, 483 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: is be as multifaceted as possible, and that's kind of 484 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: my goal with everything last year in Buffalo. I had 485 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: a lot of special teams experience, and I was very 486 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: offense focused as well, which was great. The past game 487 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: stuff comes very naturally to me. It's very easy for 488 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: me to absorb. And I got to grow a lot 489 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: in run game, um, past protection schemes and so forth. 490 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: So I grew a lot in that time there, and 491 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I don't become very singular. Um. 492 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, Coach the Fanski says it all the time. 493 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: He's has so many stories of times where he was 494 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: picking the brands of the defensive coaches in Minnesota. No 495 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: matter what position he was coaching, didn't matter. He was 496 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: finding a way to really make sure that he was 497 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: doing the best he could to be as well rounded 498 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: and multi fast as possible. That's my goal, so, um, 499 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, once things slowed down, If things slow down, 500 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to bouncing around a lot of meetings 501 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: and understanding who we are through and through as an 502 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: identity special teams, offense, defense, whatever it may be. Um, 503 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: you know, that's my goal over the next couple of years. 504 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: How quickly did do you have to get to know 505 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: a coach when you take on the position of chief 506 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: of staff? And and how how how quickly. Is this 507 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: relationship between you and coach just kind of had to 508 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: take off because you guys are so intertwined and everything 509 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: you do there, Yeah, very quickly. But I would venture 510 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: to say, like in our first few conversations, Um, you know, 511 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: we clicked pretty quickly. We saw a lot of things 512 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: very similarly as it pertained of culture, as it pertained 513 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: to kind of what this role was going to entail, 514 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: especially this first year as a head coach. Um, you know, 515 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: it was it was a pretty smooth transition for us 516 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: to understand each other. Um, And we spent a lot 517 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: of time, you know, around each other those first few weeks. 518 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And that combine as well, 519 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: so you know, it's not hard to figure a lot 520 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: of the different details about him, Um, but we talked 521 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: very openly. He's always been extremely transparent with me about 522 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: his his envisionment for this team, what he wants again, 523 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: from schematics all the way to culture. He's very transparent 524 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: because you know, there are times where I kind of 525 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: have to make sure that some of those visions are 526 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: coming to fruition and we're moving in the right direction. 527 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, as somebody who's done this job. 528 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: He knew how important it was for us to be 529 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: clear and on the same page with that, so that 530 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: I could help in whatever areas I could to make 531 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: sure those things came true. And now just how much 532 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: easier is it or is it even easier at all? 533 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: That you guys are now in the same area, same 534 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: same building, And now how much does that change? It's great, 535 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, we made it work, and we did 536 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: what we had to do and we made it work. 537 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: But it is nice to be able to, uh, to 538 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: actually talk in person and hammer out some of these 539 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: to do lists, you know, because as you can imagine 540 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: you sit here, you started tasking you like, I gotta 541 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: ask him this real quick. We gotta figure out what 542 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna do here. It's nice to be able to 543 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: to walk with my mask on to his office and 544 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: talk to him and hammer out these details and and 545 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: and get rolling. So instead of having to say I 546 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: sent you zoom invite Kali Brownson, the chief of staff 547 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: for Kevin Stefanski, appreciate a few minutes of your time. 548 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Enjoy a little downtime over the next few weeks. Now 549 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: by downtime, I mean you're probably working from vacation, but uh, 550 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: enjoy a few minutes in a few days of sunshine 551 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: and uh we can't wait to all get back in 552 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: the building and hopefully in a month and change we're 553 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: all going to be taking part and getting ready for 554 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: the regular season. Appreciate a few minutes, continued success to 555 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: you and we'll be seeing you soon. Thank you, guys. 556 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: Thanks to Kelli Brownson for her time, and we hope 557 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: that she's getting a little bit of downtime as most 558 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: of the coaches, it appears, Gribbs. Uh, everybody's gonna step 559 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: away for a couple of weeks, catch their breath, come 560 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: back ready to go about mid July. Iron come back 561 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: ready to go for the season, no matter how long 562 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: it may end up be coming. Yeah, And I think 563 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I think these coaches will be They'll check out a 564 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: little bit, but I think their eyes and ears are 565 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: going to be on the latest developments on on what 566 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: they might be doing, what they what they what they're 567 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: gonna be facing from a coaching standpoint, This isn't going 568 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: to be a normal training camp, It's not gonna be 569 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: a normal season, So I think they're gonna be paying 570 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: attention to the latest developments and just seeing what all 571 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do to get ready for this 572 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: training camp that we hope is a once in a 573 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: lifetime experience and we can go back to normal. Yeah, 574 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be next week. You know, a lot 575 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: of us are on vacation, and by on vacation, we're 576 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: hanging out in our backyards for lack of a better term. 577 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: But you know, knowing our luck and the way things 578 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: have gone, we'll get some developments next week. We're off, 579 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: but we're with an eye and an ear to what's 580 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: going on around the league. Hopefully we get some clarity 581 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks as to how we're 582 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: going to approach things and how we're going to move 583 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: forward for the NFL season. Gribble Cam Newton is a 584 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: New England Patriot. Shocking development as we go around the 585 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: league here. Um, the biggest question I have is why 586 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: did it take so long? Because it's not like you 587 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: can get into their facility and have a physical and 588 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: meet with their team docks and everything. But and they 589 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: waited essentially till their virtual lost season was over. So 590 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: why did this take so long? You know, I really 591 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: don't know, and I think it's it is interesting because 592 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: you basically miss all the virtual off season, so I 593 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: I guess there was no real rush. If you if 594 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: you couldn't get them into the final two weeks, maybe 595 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been as much progress there. But I 596 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: mean it makes sense now to get them ready, get 597 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: them ready, and get a plan in place for training camp. 598 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: And again, I just have a hard time believing that 599 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: anyone other than Cam Newton is going to be the 600 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the New England Atriots. I just I 601 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: think he is so clearly the best quarterback in that room, 602 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: especially if he's if he's healthy and ready to go. 603 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: And I'm excited. I mean I think that there, I bet, 604 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: I bet Josh McDaniels is excited because I think there 605 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: there's he's only thirty one years old. You get him 606 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: back in in in healthy standing. I mean, this is 607 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: a talented, kind of a freak athlete at the position. 608 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, of course the Patriots gone. I mean, 609 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: it's just it just makes all the sense in the world. 610 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: And I I mean, I know there's some people who 611 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: still say that Jared Stidham could be have this have 612 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: still have a shot at winning this job. I mean 613 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: maybe he does. I mean I don't. I wouldn't bet 614 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: on it, so I just it's just it's just gonna 615 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: be a different looking Patriots offense. But I mean, now 616 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: we have to go back and look at the tape 617 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: between what me and Zagura talked about with the Buccaneers 618 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: and Patriots. But I feel very good about siding with 619 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots and whatever we discussed because I think that 620 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: they're in great shape and I'll pick them to win 621 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: the division again. Really Okay, yes, I'll put that in 622 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: the folder for later this week when Sigur rejoins us. 623 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know about the talent around him, 624 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: like I like Sony Michelle. Is he ever healthy? Can 625 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: he stay healthy? What's going on with that wide receiver corps? 626 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: You know? Does he have the weapons around him to 627 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: make him successful? Because I don't think that Cam Newton 628 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: we saw early in his Carolina days is the same 629 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: Cam Newton even a thirty one in his quote Prime, 630 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: I worried that he can he get the job done 631 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: with that surrounding cast. You know, I can agree with that, 632 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: But then I'm going back and looking at the receivers 633 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: that he had in Carolina, and Cam Newton had had 634 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: a really good season uh in two thousand seventeen. Uh 635 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: And I mean I'm looking to this receiving corps. It 636 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: was Devin Funchess and Kelvin Benjamin uh and Ed Dixon 637 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: and here Christian McCaffrey. That's that's not all that much. 638 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean those none of those receivers are still with 639 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: the Panthers for for reasons, I mean that go in 640 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: line with their production. Uh. And I just I think 641 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: the Cam has not exactly been flushed with Pro Bowl 642 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: talent around him outside of Greg Olsen. So I just 643 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: think that I just I put faith in the Patriots 644 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: system to figure out a way to get the most 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: out of him, and they figured out a way that 646 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: maybe the Panthers couldn't when the when Newton was dealing 647 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: with those shoulder issues that you know, when Tom Brady 648 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: lost a few yards on his deep ball, that figured 649 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: out ways to to maximize what he could do. Uh 650 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: and and still ran a pre efficient offense. So I 651 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: just again, it just feels so Patriots too to get 652 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: a former m v P a minimum deal. I just 653 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: I I shook my head at the signing, and that 654 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: is a seal of approval for for what they're doing. Yes, 655 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's and if it blows up in their face, 656 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: it blows up their face, they end up with a 657 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: hyghdraft pick. Yeah, I mean, that's the worst case scenarios. 658 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Jared Sidhams are starting quarterback, which is what people thought 659 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: was the plan for the last three months. Yeah, exactly. 660 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: And if he's good, great. If he's bad, well, it's 661 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: a pretty big quarterback class coming out next year and 662 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: you could have a top ten pick. If he's bad. 663 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: If the Patriots team that still has a defensive Player 664 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: of the Year on their team, step On Gilmore, they're 665 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: gonna be really good on defense. Again. Like I just 666 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: I can't put the Bills in the throne of the 667 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: a f C East until they until they slay the 668 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: beast that is the Patriots. I just can't do it. No, 669 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: I I can agree with you on that. Will's a 670 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: girl that's to be determined. I look forward to that 671 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: debate coming up on Thursday. We want to thank Kelly 672 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Brownson for her time and we wish her continued success 673 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: as she moves up the ladder in the National Football League. 674 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: And uh, just a great person and we think big 675 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: things her ahead for her, and but we're happy to 676 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: have her right now on her staff. Talk about a 677 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: resume booster. This year has been for her. Yeah, I 678 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: mean to say, you were basically the organizer of all 679 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: this during I mean that's I mean, she's she's handled 680 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: it so well, and I think Stefanskis has talked about 681 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: that a lot, and just the kind of the communication 682 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: adaptation to all the technology. I mean, this was this 683 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: was something that she you maybe saw coming a week 684 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: in advance, but then when it's there, all of a sudden, 685 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: it was you had to hurry up and get get 686 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: organized and and and she's done a heck of a 687 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: job with it. She has, she has, and props to 688 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: her and all the coaches that have worked through this 689 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: and the players that have been a part of the 690 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: Virtual Offseason. We'll do our Virtual Offseason Awards as we 691 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: wrap up the off season. Best podcast Available coming your 692 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: way Thursday, as the Girl will join Gribble and myself. 693 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: Thanks to Jeff McDaniel for all of his hard work. 694 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: As always, thanks for watching and thanks for listening. Make 695 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: sure you log on to clean Browns dot com or 696 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts like and subscribe today to 697 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: the best podcast available. 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