1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: The volume. Hi everybody, and welcome in to the Friday 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Morning Podcast. By the time you listen to this, I've 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: flown overnight and I'm in an undisclosed location with my 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: wife at a beach. You know, I was thinking about something. 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I had a conversation recently with a friend and he 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: was going through a tough time, and I said, you know, 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: there's a old saying about there's always a silver lining. 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: And I think about this stuff all the time. Is 9 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: I remember when my daughter was a you know, not great, 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: but a pretty good athlete, volleyball player, basketball player, and 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: she started playing volleyball and liked it more kind of 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the community feel. She liked the girls better and volleyball 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: than basketball. And you know, I had talked to her 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: coach one time. She was doing like summer league where 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: you you know, you get in the van, travel all 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: weekend and play. It was in San Bernardino, and her coach, 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: a former college player, said, you know, your daughter's pretty 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: good player. She could play. And then about a year later, 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: six months later, my daughter comes to me and says, 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to play sports anymore. And my ex 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: wife was a jock, played college sports, and now I'm 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of jockey, and I remember there was a day 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: or two where you know, I kind of pouted and thought, 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: this is no good. I really was looking forward to 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: kind of you know, traveling with her and watching her games. 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: But what came out of it in that little moment 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: of didn't get my way was actually the greatest thing 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: that I think that had happened in our relationship is 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: that our relationship changed. We got out of the sports 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: realm into a more social realm, traveling realm. It was 31 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: like an adult adult It was like an adult to 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: adult relationship. She was aging, and I didn't have to 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: be a sports parent, right, just a taxi cab driver 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: taking your game to game, tournament to tournament. And it 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: goes to something that I really believe that the moments 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: in my life that and you see it in sports 37 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: all the time that you think are the pits, there's 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: always a bright side. I remember when Michigan football was 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: struggling with Brady Hoke, and I remember saying this on 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: the air, Michigan is never bad. For a long time. 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: In between Rich Rodriguez, Rich Rod and bretdy Hoak, I 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: said they're going to go spend big Boy money, and 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: they did, and they got Hardball. And this is the 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: best Michigan roster this year that they maybe have ever had. 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: It's loaded potentially fifteen NFL draft picks. So you know, 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: the Colts got Andrew Luck, the Calves get Lebron James 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: because they're awful, Victor wembin Yama to the Spurs because 48 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: they were awful. There's always some sort of silver lining. 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: It's the great duality of life. Life's never as good 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: as you think, are as bad as you think. And 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day that in 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: what I do for a living, I have a very 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: large team of people that support me, assist me, and 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: just sort of lubricate either my broadcasting at FS one 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or the volume. So I'm very thankful for that. 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: And we rely to some degree on social media TikTok 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: a platform we're growing quickly in Instagram, Twitter, and so 58 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: initially when Elon Musk took over Twitter, my takeaway was 59 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the media has an agenda. There'll be anti Elon Musk. 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go in and just watch it develop. 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to take a side immediately. Too many 62 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: annoying ads. Soon after that too many violent videos, and 63 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I had filters on, but just too much stuff was 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: getting through that was gross and I didn't think it 65 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: just would put you in a good mood watching it. 66 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: So my point is, what's the good news. I am 67 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: never on social media anymore. I have somebody else run 68 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: the accounts. The addictive quality of that account has disappeared, 69 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: and that the truth is I have now worked out 70 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: for thirteen straight days for at least an hour, mostly 71 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: ninety minutes. I've got a little passion project on the side, 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: which I won't disclose now, but I probably will soon 73 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: in a few months that I developed just because I 74 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: had more time and have reconnected with a couple of 75 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: people I haven't seen in a while, And I thought 76 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: to myself, Jesus, I was wasting a lot of time 77 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: staring at my phone. And so I guess my point 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: being is that we live in this outrage blender. You know, 79 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: everything's the end of the world, and virtually nothing is. 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: And if you have a bad day or a bad 81 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: team or a bad moment. I see Yankee fans freaking out. Now, 82 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: It's like, folks, it's your first bad season and forever 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: your standards are high, your expectation are through the roof. 84 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Braves are great Dodgers too. Houston's viable. It's a bad 85 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: year for the Yankees. How'd you like to be the Mets? 86 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: And it's the standard, it's normal. It's consistently bad or underachieving. 87 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: Stuff's never as bad as you think. We're going to 88 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: go into a football season. Everybody's going to overreact on 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Sunday nights and Monday afternoons and Monday nights to the results. 90 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, enjoy life. If you're outraged on 91 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: a regular basis, put down the phone. There's a lot 92 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: of good out there. 93 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: It's officially the dog days of NFL training camp. And 94 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 2: as I was alerted to yesterday, we have a football 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: game a week from the day and it includes Colin 96 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: Coward's Trojans, who ironically are playing on the PAC twelve 97 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: network to open up the season. 98 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. The You know, that's been such an interesting topic 99 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: because you and I grew up. I think we spent 100 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: a lot of our formative years as PAC twelve fans. 101 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: And you know what's really happened with all this realignment 102 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: is that if you were precious, or idealistic or snooty, 103 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: you got kicked in the head. Stanford has tried to 104 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: win it football. They've spent money, cal never really has. 105 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: They did the basics. They got better facilities and with 106 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: that they've still put a lot of good NFL players 107 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. But the programs out west that 108 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: said and they're good academic schools, USC Washington, you know 109 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: those are real schools. Texas, the schools that have said, wow, 110 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: there is one athletic program that makes a lot of 111 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: money and we're going to commit to it if you 112 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: have a good football program, you had multiple suitors. Like 113 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to feel bad for the PAC 114 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: twelve when in a world where pillow fighting is on 115 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: the air and slap fighting is a business that you, 116 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: as a college football conference could not get a television deal. 117 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: I work at a TV network. We're dying for content. 118 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: But arrogance too precious. I mean, when you hire somebody 119 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: from a tennis channel to run your conference and they 120 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: consider the Seers Cup as viable as the Rose Bowl, 121 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: you get what you deserve. And so you either commit 122 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: to football as an athletic department or you're lost. You 123 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: just don't understand the way the entire pyramid of college 124 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: sports works. 125 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: The most embarrassing part of this whole deal is that 126 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: I think the Big Ten and definitely the SEC, understood 127 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: that football not only pays for everything, but the more 128 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: success it has, everyone benefits. Yes, why in the SEC 129 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: they're basketball programs now pay coaches elite money. I was 130 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: watching the USAM golf tournament. It's full of SEC kids 131 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: from all over the They're great at the college baseball tournament. 132 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: And Larry Scott viewed this as as some equitable endeavor 133 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: And that's not the way college sports has built football. 134 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Pace for everything and then everyone benefits. And what I 135 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: wonder though, is how do they ever get to the 136 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: point when the top fifty. However, many programs under the 137 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: umbrella fighting to get to the twelve team playoff, all 138 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: abide by the same rules, same amount of conference games, 139 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: no more playing Weber State and UC Davis those days. 140 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: How do they ever get there? Because essentially you're going 141 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,479 Speaker 2: to need a commissioner or a governing body that mandates 142 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: basically universal rules. At Alabama, that Ohio State, right, Oklahoma State, 143 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: and it feels like we're still a little bit far 144 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: away from that. 145 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always felt you need a scheduling czar in 146 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: college football. I mean, why did the UFC and Mixed 147 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Martial arts but UFC overtake boxing because they had a 148 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: commissioner strong willed, a definitive Dana White. I'm gonna lease 149 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: an island and boxing continually ripped off fans. Once a month, 150 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: you get a UFC card. Even my wife enjoys going. 151 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: You always get quality entertainment and your money's worth. Where 152 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: college football has struggled to me, John in my life 153 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: is not passion, is not branding. It's too few great games. 154 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: Everybody's avoiding an out of conference loss. So to me, 155 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: the bigger the tournament becomes twelve to sixteen teams, the 156 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: more willing Texas and Alabama are this year to play 157 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: each other, USC Michigan. Now they will play each other. 158 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: But those are the games I mean go to starting 159 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: next week until the first Thursday of the NFL. There's 160 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: about fifteen twenty days there and there's like three good 161 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: college football games. So the sport's going to change the tournament, 162 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: like college basketball is going to become the focal point. 163 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: It's not going to erode sport. What's eroded college basketball 164 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: is in the tournament. What's eroded it is the one 165 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and done culture. The teams aren't very good, the players 166 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: aren't very good. So college football still has the three 167 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: year minimum rule, but the sport's gonna shift, and it's 168 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna shift to a The tournament is the centerpiece of it. 169 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: More teams will be allowed in a little bit of 170 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: an arms race. But I do believe more than a commissioner, 171 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if you'll ever get that, I 172 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: think we need a scheduling zar. Everybody plays minimum ten 173 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: conference games, one out of conference game to help Like 174 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State can help out Youngstown State, Washington could help 175 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: out Eastern Washington, Bama could help out Troy. If there's 176 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: a regional team, you can help out. But but I 177 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: think I think the sports changing and pivoting. I'm here 178 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: for it because I believe it will deliver more really 179 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: big games. 180 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one percent. 181 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: That's the best part of that. The NFL. 182 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: Right Week one, you get Steelers forty nine ers. That's 183 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: like the equivalent of Georgia USC Let's rock and roll baby. 184 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: Jets, Yeah, Giants, Cowboys, you know that's that's really that 185 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: one o'clock window, that red zone window, there's always four 186 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: to five games and the one o'clock window are down 187 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: to the final possession. Then you get the Fox window. 188 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Then you get Sunday night and Monday night. Now Thursday 189 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: was you know, it was awful, But by and large 190 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: the NFL's quality. Every window you get great games. We 191 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: may go through Labor Day window. I think LSU plays 192 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Florida State. It's like I can live without seeing any 193 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: other game. You have this huge three day weekend to 194 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: just own the world, and it's a bunch of teams 195 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: afraid to play each other. 196 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: You know, one theory I have going back to the 197 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty college football season, that was all out of whack, 198 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, from a training regiment, from a scheduling regiment. 199 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: Beside Trevor Lawrence, who had a long resume and was 200 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: destined to be a good NFL player, the other four 201 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks we got two in limbo right now in Fields 202 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: and Mac Jones. 203 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: We'll see. 204 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: I mean, by the end of the season, they could 205 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: be not viable for their team anymore. And then you 206 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: got Zach Wilson and Trey Lance not even close to 207 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: seeing the field. I think we look back and that's 208 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: an outlier for quarterbacks because it was build. This is 209 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: a great quarterback draft. But Zach Wilson played nobody and 210 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: BYU typically does right on a normal season. But remember 211 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve didn't play any out of conference games. 212 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I think the Big Ten did too, they play all 213 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: those teams they did in that season. Obviously, Trey Lance 214 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: didn't even have a season, right, So and Mac Jones. 215 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: One thing in the scouting circle is I always heard is, 216 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: you know Alabama didn't exactly tap out and go home 217 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: for the summer in twenty twenty. They were lifting, they 218 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: were ready to roll. They obviously are already talented, and 219 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: they had a huge advantage that season, and you clearly 220 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: see it when you get to the pro some guys. 221 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: Another theory is some of these quarterbacks like a Brock 222 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Purty or you know Mahomes that don't play on the 223 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: most talented teams in college are used to figuring out 224 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 2: ways to win. Or some of the Ohio State and 225 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: Alabama guys have they're rolling in with like Kevin Durant 226 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Steph Curry on their right left shoulders and it's just 227 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: not even fair, right, they have a stacked team. So 228 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: I think you see twenty twenty. That college season all 229 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: out of whack for the quarterbacks. And then I do 230 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: think you see with the quarterbacks, you don't have to 231 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: go to the elite school. Sometimes you learn going to 232 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: the second tier power five school, you kind of learn 233 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: how to play, learn how to win. 234 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: No, this has been something I think I wrote about 235 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: this in my first book, is that it's amazing that 236 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback there's a quarterback from Miami of Ohio, 237 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: better than any Ohio State quarterback ever, Big Ben. At 238 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: one point in North Carolina State had Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, 239 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: and Mike Glennon in the league and USC had like nobody. 240 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: If you really look, I believe this, you should go 241 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: to the college and not just sports. You should go 242 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: to the college that best prepares you for your first 243 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: job out of college, what prepares you for the NFL. 244 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Never getting touched as a Buckeye quarterback, throwing drag routes 245 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: that go for seventy yards to wide open five star 246 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: receivers with perfect protection, or playing at Purdue or NC 247 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: State or Boston College or Miami of Ohio or cal 248 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: where Jared Goff got that, you know what kicked out 249 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: of him for three or four years. So if you 250 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: look at where quarterbacks come from, you know, Lamar Jackson, 251 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Louisville's a basketball school. You go up and down. If 252 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: you go up and down the league, like Josh Allen Wyoming, 253 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: like Mahomes Nonpower, it's almost universal if you go up 254 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: and down. And even the guys that went to the 255 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: big schools, Jalen Hurts got kicked around, had to transfer, 256 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Joe Burshall, Joe Burrow had to transfer. So getting pushed around, roadblocks, duress, 257 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: not getting your way is a huge component what job 258 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: prepares you for the NFL quarterback one throwing into small windows, 259 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: running for your life. Often the second best coaching staff 260 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: on the field. Drew Brees Purdue. You know, Tom Brady 261 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: goes to Michigan, but was battling for snaps at Michigan. 262 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: So I think that Peyton Manning for a long time 263 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: was the only quarterback for a long time. Number one 264 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: high school, number one college, number one pick great. I 265 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: mean he was for it for a long time. That 266 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Lway was that way high school college, you know, pro 267 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: and he delivered. But it's usually I mean, even Justin 268 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Herbert goes to Oregon, good school, totally doubted. You know, 269 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: three star recruit grew up right next to Oregon. 270 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: They were not loaded with skilled guys on offense, which 271 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: historically they usually are. 272 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had good oldlignment, but not good receivers. 273 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: One thing I thought when Trey Lance was drafted by 274 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, and I have one hundred percent 275 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: changed my thinking, and I've seen it with James Wiseman 276 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: and the Warriors, is you get this raw product on 277 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: a great team and it's actually easier. I actually think 278 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: it's the opposite. And you look this year with the 279 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks Anthony Richardson, C J. Stroud and Bryce Young. Right, 280 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm a little different than you on Carolina. I think 281 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: it could be a little bit of a rough year 282 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: the other two teams for sure, but it doesn't matter, 283 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: like if all three of them are drafting in the 284 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: top five next year. It's a big picture play. Where 285 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: Trey Lance came into a spot where it was like, 286 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: we're competing to be playing late in January. Anything less 287 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: is unacceptable, and the core guys on the team like 288 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: they're not into losing, They're not into you figuring it out, 289 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Like who on the Colts is really gonna get super 290 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: mad if he's struggling, right, I mean, they're going through 291 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: a transitional period right now. So I think when you 292 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: are a young quarterback who's raw and the expectations are 293 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: super low for your team, it's actually way easier. You 294 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: get to figure it out. And that doesn't mean you're 295 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: going to become a good player, but you know, it's 296 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: very rare, like look at what Kansas City did. They 297 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: gave him some breathing room and he's turns out Mahomes 298 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: a multime outlier. Like, well, Mahomes is not someone to 299 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: be used as an example. Even Josh Allen, they had 300 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: blown the place up. They ended up making the playoffs 301 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: that year, but it was a little lucky. Remember, I 302 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: think there was like an Andy Dalton thing that got 303 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: him in beat the Ravens or something. They were a 304 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: wild card, but the expectations were low and he got 305 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: an easy transition into the pros that if a top 306 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: team drafts you and the expectations were high, if you're 307 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: not ready, especially clearly Trey Lance wasn't, it can be 308 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: overwhelming and probably derail your career. 309 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: The new movie Gran Theismo is based on an unbelievable 310 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: true story about a team of unlikely underdogs, a struggling 311 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: working class gamer, a failed race car driver, and an 312 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: idealistic motor sport executive. Together they risk it all to 313 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: take on the most elite sport in the world. 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And it 339 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: just goes to show you how hard drafting a quarterback is. 340 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: And I'll give an example. So Mac Jones came in 341 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: with several red flags, not athletic, had a temper one 342 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: year starter, surrounded by great players, then lands in New 343 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: England with a defensive culture, yet he had an excellent 344 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: rookie season. Trey Lance comes in, winning culture, big kid mobile, 345 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, It's bad. Like one of the reasons I 346 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: bought into Trey Lance was Kyle Shanahan will figure it out. 347 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, this will work. So does 348 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: it show you that if Kyle can't make it work, 349 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: it was just a whiff. I mean part of me 350 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: is like like, like I understand James Wiseman for the 351 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: Warriors not winning, and it's not because Wiseman can't play. 352 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He's not synced up to Steph Curry's timeline, right, Like, 353 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: like I get them just saying, hey, we got to 354 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: get guys who can win. Now, NFL is different, Like 355 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: if Trey could play, they would just figure it out. 356 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: And I watched Sam Darnold with the same personnel play 357 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: and Trey Lance. Sam looked like Sam looked excellent, And 358 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, we all talk about Lance pretty has not 359 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: a great camp. Is it possible you live and you 360 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: live and spend time in the area. Is Sam Darnold 361 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: potentially the starter? 362 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, I've heard that Kyle's had a long love affair 363 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: would be strong, but he's always liked the player, and 364 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: he saw what his strengths are in his offense, and 365 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: let's face it, he views the quarterback position. If you 366 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: remove Trey Lance, I would say a little different than 367 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: most like what the Andy Reids of the world and 368 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: some of these you know coaches in the league want 369 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: a little different than what Kyle Shanahan wants and some 370 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: of his stuff, you know he's never had in all 371 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: of his successful years. You know, they had success with 372 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: Matt Job in Houston, obviously, Matt Ryan, Jimmy Garoppolo. Sam 373 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: is the best arm of any of those guys. Yes, 374 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: and I think Sam fair or not. Was it shitty 375 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: situations that if you put let's just say a tray 376 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: or guy, it would have been worse. I mean, no 377 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: one was winning in the situations he was in with 378 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: Adam Gase and even in Carolina. And I do think 379 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: that Brock Purdy is not going to get treated like 380 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: some top ten quarterback and if things are rocky and 381 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: don't look like last season, he won't go to the bullpen. 382 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: It was no different than last year. If Trey Lance 383 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: hadn't broken his ankle and gone four or five, six games, 384 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: I don't know the exact number, and then up and down, 385 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: he would have gone to Jimmy Garoppolo. He was not 386 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: given him seventeen games because that's not how this team 387 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: is built. So I think there is tangible pressure on Purdy, who, 388 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: as he stated over and over, is gonna be as 389 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: lock starter. For Pittsburgh. But he doesn't get to just 390 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: go like zero to three if they lose Week one, 391 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: which is a very losable game on the road. They're 392 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: a favorite, So that means Tomlin's an underdog. It's just 393 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: gonna be a tough environment against a really good defense. 394 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: I just he will go to the bullpen. Now, I 395 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: don't know if that's two week four, but party doesn't 396 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: just get the leash of most of these blue chip, 397 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: highly paid quarterbacks. And that's you know, part of this conversation. 398 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything like a conversation over these 399 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks for an elite team. It's it's they're an 400 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: outlier situation, right, a Super Bowl contender who does not 401 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: have a forty fifty million dollar quarterback. All the other teams, 402 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: even in the NFC, Dak and Jalen, and then the 403 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: top teams in the AFC Mahomes obviously Josh Allen and Burrow, Right, 404 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean, these are the premium players in the league. 405 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: And then you got the forty nine ers. It's like 406 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: Perty and Sam Darnold. So it just but we all 407 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: kind of believe in them because we saw. 408 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: What they could. 409 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: They could have beat the Eagles if party doesn't get 410 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: hurt the way they were playing, but there is like 411 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: this kind of elephant in the room weirdness with their quarterback. 412 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: And that's just kind of the way it's been since 413 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 2: Kyle's been there, because ultimately Trey Lance didn't work out 414 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: because they were hoping that he would become that guy. 415 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: So I think an interesting situation. I had a buddy, 416 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Steve Khime used to run Arizona. Yeah, he was at 417 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles camp last several days and he texted me 418 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: the other day He's like, they are really good, and 419 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, Shane Steiken is one of these guys. This 420 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: was Brian Dabele. So Brian Dabole was being talked about. 421 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: I was getting comments about him, like three years when 422 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: he got the Buffalo job. I'd get guys or like 423 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: watch this guy. And then then everybody figured out, like 424 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: when Josh Allen exploded, it's like, oh, so I thought 425 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers were going to hire Brian Dable because he 426 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: had a relationship day Ball did with Tom Telesco, the GM. 427 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: I think they roomed in college and they knew each 428 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: other somehow, and they didn't The spanosist actually said, hey, 429 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: we want Brandon Staley because he was with a Rams. 430 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: You know, you take somebody that's valuable away from the Rams, 431 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: maybe he'd already been on the West Coast whatever, so 432 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: and you get situations like this. Well, the Chargers also 433 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: told me several years ago Shane Steiken is really good 434 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert behind the thirty second ranked offensive line 435 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: with Anthony Lynn literally through thirty one touchdown passes. Then 436 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: he goes and he kind of resurrects, and that's the 437 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: wrong word. He takes Jalen Hurts his talent and essentially 438 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: makes him co MVP of the league. So he leaves 439 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: much like Dable left Josh Allen. Josh Allen's still good, 440 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: but the mistakes go up. There's drama this year and 441 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: you could sense they miss Stable a little. No knock 442 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: on Ken Dorsey. I'm really interested. I think Jalen Hurts 443 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen. He's a franchise guy, moves throws, great 444 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: leadership qualities, but you work with them and you still 445 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: have contacts. I look at last year's Eagles team. They 446 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: played a bunch of injured quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks and week quarterbacks. 447 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: Schedules much different this year and I am interested. I'm 448 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: really pro Indie because of Steichen. And I remember when 449 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: Sirianni called the plays, it was a bit of an 450 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: s show. He handed it over to Stichen and instantly 451 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: next week they were good. What do you expect from 452 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles this year? The offense? 453 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of players in the history of the 454 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: league have had great seasons, right, But to be a 455 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: great player, it's doing it year in year out, especially 456 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: a quarterback. 457 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: Right. 458 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: That's what separated Brady Manning, Breeze, whoever, all the top 459 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: guys every year. So there is pressure now on Jalen. 460 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: They didn't have a choice. They had to pay him. Listen. 461 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: One thing I've learned from in the scouting world talking 462 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: about players and seeing guys that you've kind of bet 463 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: against that failed. You bet on the person. And these guys, 464 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: I think they didn't think three years ago he was 465 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: going to be this good. But they hammered home how 466 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: impressive this dude was. Yeah, how coachable he is, Like 467 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Sirianni can yell at him. He's a coach's kid, doesn't 468 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: mind it, Saban Lincoln Riley, he can handle it. This 469 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: This is a tough mentally driven football is his life. 470 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: Teammates love him. That's why they wally pipped Carson Wentze fast. 471 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: Everyone gravitated to this guy and this is when he 472 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: wasn't even that good. Yeah, and so to me, you 473 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: don't bet against now. Is he going to maintain like 474 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl game every single game? Of course not, 475 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: but I have I'm betting on him because I think 476 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: he proved last year. He's a much better thrower and 477 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: like com Sexty, their team around him, elite offensive line. 478 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: Him and AJ Brown are perfectly This guy is kind 479 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: of like the younger version of Russell Wilson. Jason Kelsey says, 480 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: he throws like one of the best deep balls he's 481 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: ever seen. So he's a great go ball thrower. Devonte 482 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: Smith's a stud. They have a tight end. They always 483 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: got a million running backs. You're right though, anytime you 484 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: move the coordinator in a psyching to get to him, 485 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, he could be the next McVeigh Shanahan. You 486 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: take a day ball, you take a quarterback as a coordinator, 487 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: and then you take Anthony Richardson. I mean, this guy 488 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: would be a legend around the league pretty quickly, right, 489 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I think the coordinator Ben Johnson. I 490 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: think that's his name, the longtime Utah guy and bounce 491 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: around the league. 492 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: By the way, this is a good point. Stafford was 493 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: at his best with Jim Bob Cooter the coordinator. 494 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so they got a lot of guys in Sirianni. 495 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: There's a lot of cohesion there offensively. So I the 496 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: schedule is going to be harder, right. I think the 497 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: NFC East is the Cowboys. Those games are going to 498 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: be more difficult the Giants. The mismatch last year was 499 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: pretty evident when the Eagles played the Giants kicked their ass. 500 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: I think that will get a little more competitive. Washington 501 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: beat him one game last year. They played the Niners 502 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: in the regular season. They play Seattle in the regular season. 503 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: So it's just going to be a little bit more difficult. 504 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: But I think when you get a guy that's proven 505 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: that he can play in his lineage shows Alabama, Oklahoma 506 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: right from college, blue chip guy, and he's such an 507 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: elite character football intangible stuff, that's who you bet on. 508 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: So is he going to be an MVP every single 509 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: league or year? I don't know, But is he going 510 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: to be a damn good player? I would say, yeah, 511 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: you know what you made. 512 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: Just a great point you said in scouting you bet 513 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: on the guy, and I think with quarterback, especially because 514 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: you ask so much of that position and that guy. 515 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: But I didn't like Will Levis. I didn't like his attitude. 516 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: I didn't like Baker. I didn't like Jay Cutler once 517 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: I learned about it. Nothing against Baker Mayfield, but I 518 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: didn't like the hootspu and the cockiness. Cam rubbed me 519 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Jamis Winston I thought was silly. I 520 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: liked Bryce Young, I liked Andrew Luck. I like Trevor Lawrence. 521 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: I remember meeting Russell Wilson as a rookie. It's such 522 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: a great point. I ever thought about it that way. 523 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: The guys I have been hyper critical of. I mean, 524 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: I had somebody tell me about Will Levis between the 525 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: girlfriend on Draft night, the gun show at the combine, 526 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: They're like, this guy loves Will Levis, Bryce Young loves football. 527 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: And just because you're a great guy and love football 528 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I mean, this is pro football. 529 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: It's hard, right. 530 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: The forty nine ers bet a lot on Trey Lance 531 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: part of it. He just doesn't see it when he's playing, right, 532 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: it's a fine line. This is one of the most 533 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 2: competitive industries, probably in all of America to be a 534 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: high level quarterback. But I do think Jalen proved last 535 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: year of just seeing the field being much better as 536 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: a passing quarterback and clearly benefits. You talk to the 537 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: guys with the Colts. What was a big part of 538 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: betting on Anthony Richardson. They liked the person. My scouting 539 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: buddies were like, he's really impressing these guys. Seems like 540 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: a good guy. So you kind of bet on that 541 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: with the talent, no guarantee because you know you're taking 542 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: a big flyer on the talent, but you kind of 543 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: bet on the guy you feel better about it. 544 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean I've said this before. I You and I. 545 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: If I went to a bar and I sat next 546 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: to you and we were having cocktails and talking, I 547 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: would know within six to eight minutes, Oh, I like 548 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: this guy right like the first time we met. That 549 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: happens to me all the time in Manhattan Beach. I'll 550 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: go out and I'll go to my little private club 551 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I got buddies at and some people I don't know, 552 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: and I just talk. I'm a talker and I can 553 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: tell instantly it's the same an uber you get in 554 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: an uber. I was in an uber recently, about two 555 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: months ago, and so I met this guy. So just 556 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: immediately I'm like, man, he's articulate. I'm asking him about 557 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: his life and it's about a twenty minute drive. Well 558 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: about halfway through, we start talking about the homeless issue 559 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and he was homeless, and we go 560 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: into detail about the situation, and by the end of it, 561 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, that was one of the best twenty minute 562 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: rides I've ever had in a car with a stranger. 563 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things. He told me his 564 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: life story. He was just willing to talk about it. 565 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: He was a roll, a vulnerable guy. When you sit 566 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: and interview these quarterbacks in this room and you get 567 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, John, you tell me your scout, I think 568 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: you can size a guy up. I heard Levis was 569 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: got very defensive in the scouting rooms when you asked 570 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: him about his habit of eating the whole banana skin 571 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: and all. Well, he's the one that put it on 572 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: social media and scouts would ask him about it, and 573 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: he got defensive with a couple teams, and it's like 574 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I think you can size people up well. 575 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: Look at the market, look at the market value on him, 576 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: because I thought early on in the season, I guess 577 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: with junior or senior year whatever, that last year was 578 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: equivalent to his years in college. He had a chance 579 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: to be the number one overall pick, and then the 580 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: season kind of derailed for him. And then even by 581 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: draft time, he was viewed as a guy like he 582 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: still could go in the top ten. But sometimes the 583 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: way things you hear, if you only talk to a 584 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: couple guys, you don't actually know. He didn't go in 585 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: the first round. So it a quarterback star of league 586 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: for a guy with his talent, because he two years 587 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: ago he was really good for Kentucky commence. Yeah, and 588 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: that tells you everything you need to know. And I 589 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: do think the team that drafted him little quarterback desperate, 590 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: right Tannehills last year. 591 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: But look what's happening right now. 592 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Malik Willis clearly a high level guy, has really improved 593 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: and will Levis can't beat him out. So yeah, it's 594 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: it's it's what makes this so difficult is because you know, 595 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: you're involved in so many businesses right, so many of 596 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: it are already black and white on an Excel spreadsheet. 597 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: This is making money. This isn't we acquire this, we 598 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: add this building. It's going to cost us this. It's 599 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: it's just with human beings, which sports is. That's who 600 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 2: you're acquiring for seven eight figures. You can't. Actually, you 601 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: have ideas, and sometimes you're right and sometimes you're really wrong, 602 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: and you can be fooled too. That's the other thing. 603 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: Like some guys, you got to be very careful. We 604 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: used to call them in Philly cons because you could 605 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: just be conned. If a guy ever showed up to 606 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: your Top thirty visit wearing a suit, it's like, yeah, 607 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: he's got something to hide, because you know most bryce 608 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: the average players are showing up in team sweats. He's 609 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: flying city to city. He's not I've already talked to him. 610 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 2: But anytime that suit, it's like, oh, this guy's got 611 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: some red flag and you already know about him. So 612 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: you're asking questions that you already know the answers to. 613 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: But then where you get burned is if that guy 614 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: goes on to be really good and your owner starts 615 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: looking at your GM coach like you guys didn't like 616 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: this guy, and he's kicking our ass on Sunday. So 617 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: it's it's where some of these people start second guessing themselves, 618 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: and it's the hard you know Belichick, he doesn't really 619 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: like taking a lot of flyers, right, He kind of likes, 620 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: you know, high character, super smart. This guy played seven 621 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: sports and sometimes his ceiling's not as high. 622 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: And it worked with Tom Brady. 623 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: I My thought on like the Zeke thing was Belichick 624 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: forever has been like Warren Buffett. He invests pretty he's 625 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: pretty boring, right, but it's always worked when he had 626 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Buffett has so much money. He ain's not 627 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 2: looking to double his money. He just wants his seven 628 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: eight ten percent returns. Now he's got to be a 629 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 2: little more aggressive. But he's not comfortable and he's seventy 630 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: one years old, Like he's not going to change his stripe. 631 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: So what does he do? 632 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: He signed Zeke for six hundred thousand dollars signing bonus. 633 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: He's he wasn't gonna get into a bidding war for 634 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook or that's not that's not who he is. 635 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: And he he did it one year and it backfired 636 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 2: on him. 637 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: Well, Also, the world's changed, so like Greg Popovich could 638 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: never embrace the three point shot. All right, Belichick is 639 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: still seeking value with offensive players that ship hit, that's 640 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: it's sailed. You could do that with Brady, and you 641 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,479 Speaker 1: could do that twelve years ago. You have to pay 642 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: for Tyreek Hill, right, you have to pay for Travis Kelcey. 643 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: And I think so. And I think one of the 644 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: things I'll read a business book every year. I'll probably 645 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: grab one, gravitate to onet and read it. And the 646 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: only thing that kills a successful business is there's a 647 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: cultural change and you're too arrogant to embrace it. And 648 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: I feel like Popovich, Now he got rewarded with Victor 649 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: wembin Yama. We'll see, but I think I think Popovich 650 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: and Belichick you kind of fall in love with your 651 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: culture over personnel. If you take Brady and Tim Duncan out, 652 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: we're not talking about Popovitch and Belichick, right, So I 653 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: think my thing with the Zeke signing is they could 654 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: have had Dalvin Cook, but Bill has not. He's toned 655 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: deaf to this. I mean, think about this, Think about 656 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: all these defensive coaches. Ron Rivera won't put his arm 657 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: around Sam Howe, Brian Flores, wouldn't his arms around to 658 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: h Mike Zimmer wouldn't put him around Kirk Cousins, Bill 659 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Belichick won't put him around Mac Jones McVeigh, even though 660 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: Goff could drive him nuts. I love Jared Dan Campbell. 661 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: Look at the offensive coaches even when the quarterback is flawed. 662 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, I love my guy, I trust my guy. 663 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: The world's changed quarterbacking now is one hundred million dollar 664 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: a year. These guys are going to sign five hundred 665 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: million dollar contracts. They make seven figures on endorsement, seven 666 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: figures on social gous show him a little love, and 667 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: I just think those defensive coaches struggle with it. 668 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: Well, think about this, if you went into a meeting 669 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: room and he's on the nicest end, right, he's not 670 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: a swear or anything. But even Kyle McVeigh, the offensive coaches, 671 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 2: when they are acknowledging their team, their unit, their position, 672 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: it would not sound even though he was acknowledging the 673 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: offensive line like Robert Sala. How did Robert Sala come 674 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: off in that clip on Hard Knocks. That's a defensive coach. 675 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 2: Why everything's aggressive, everything's hitting everything, And he went around 676 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: the offensive guys very carefully, but he attacked that group. 677 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: Now they can handle it. But that showed, like, that's 678 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: how defensive coaches talking. I'm not saying offensive coaches won't 679 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: swear or yell, but that's you can't be like that 680 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: every day with the debos and the aj Browns and 681 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: your quarterbacks and your tight ends, your running backs, they're 682 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: a little closer to like NBA players, right, but your 683 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: aligneman and all your defensive players gloves off. And that's 684 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: why Saula just let into him. Now he's just telling 685 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: what he saw. They're getting worked, which is kind of concerning. 686 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that there's just a different communication 687 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: with the defensive side of the ball and the offensive 688 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: side of the ball as a whole. And I think 689 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: it shows consistently when it comes to the coaches messaging 690 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: and anytime we get an inside look behind the curtains. 691 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, I'm going to give you a player I 692 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: looked at. I'm gonna throw this out there. So Brock 693 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: pretty is rare, but there's about a quarterback every two 694 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: years we find in a later round, Dak Kirk Cousins 695 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: that Aidan O'Connell Raiders from Purdue that dude can spin it. Now. 696 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: In college it was mostly a shotgun system. You know, 697 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: he got it, got it out. He's not gonna he's 698 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: not gonna move the pocket a ton, right, And maybe 699 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: it's a little old school, but I'm watching him against 700 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 1: San Francisco John he made two throws in that game, 701 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: like and I'm like, oh shit, those are big boy throws. 702 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: And he was a fourth rounder. So fourth rounder he 703 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: gave his Stetson Bennett, this kid from Purdue And also 704 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: is it Jake Hayner from Fresno State. Yeah, he looked 705 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: pretty good too. Yeah, so three fourth round quarterbacks now 706 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: they may all be able to play. Stetson Bennett's been 707 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: hot and cold in practice all over the map. But my, 708 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: my guy, my quarterback this year, I'm gonna go with 709 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: this Raider kid because Garoppolo has an injury history. I mean, 710 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: if you can get a quarterback that is free for 711 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: four years, it changes your entire franchise. 712 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the end of their 713 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: second joint practice or before the preseason game, but I 714 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: know the Niners guys because obviously whenever you joint practice 715 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: with the team, for you just the coaches end up 716 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: bs and and talking, and they basically said that we 717 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: love this kid coming out in the draft too, but 718 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: we just have a pack quarterback room. We weren't going 719 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 2: to take a quarterback in the draft. And think about this, 720 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: the type guys the Shanahan crew likes Stetson Bennett. The 721 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: Packers took Clifford, who's looked pretty good too. Josh McDaniels 722 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: in the Belichick tree kind of has a similar vibe. 723 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones. They kind of liked the similar 724 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: type quarterbacks. I'm with you now preseason game, We've been 725 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 2: fooled before. You couldn't watch that half and go one 726 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: If if Kyle shann would have looked a Josh McDaniels 727 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: a halftime, Will you trade me straight up Trey Lance 728 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: for eight o'clock? 729 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: He would have laughed at him, right. 730 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: No chance? And uh yeah, I mean I think anytime 731 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: I would immediately make them the backup because immediately over 732 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: Brian Hoyer. Now if they want to keep him around 733 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 2: to kind of hang out in the quarterback room. But yeah, 734 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: I mean it would not shock me. Like you said, 735 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: Jimmy doesn't stay healthy. He gets in even when he's 736 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 2: playing he's injured. So at any moment, Aidan O'Connell, you 737 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: go to the ball. They gave him Derek Carr's jersey 738 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: number in a New York minute. You'll standed that thing 739 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 2: out fast. 740 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: I texted a scout and he goes. I talked to 741 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: two NFL execs yesterday, well one exec, one scout, and 742 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: they both said, oh, our guys loved him, we just 743 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't need a quarterback. So you talked to the Niners. 744 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: They loved him and didn't need a quarterback. I think 745 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders found themselves a gem. 746 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: He had a lot of buzz and I'm not trying 747 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: to overreact to preseason. They beat the Niners pretty well 748 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: in practice too. They held their own I do think 749 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, I know you're a Sean Payton guy. I'm 750 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: worried about that team, that that team could be. You know, 751 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: they got some figuring stuff out to do. What if 752 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: the Raiders, because they do have a lot of high 753 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: end talent. Their problem was defensive as a unit last 754 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 2: year was pretty hit or miss, and obviously Carr had 755 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: his worst year as a pro. Once he became an 756 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 2: established starter. If they can just get solid quarterback play, 757 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, DeVante Adams, Crosby's stud and Josh. Josh was 758 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: much better last year than probably even I said it, 759 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 2: But they were in games. 760 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: And we're getting their test kick. They could pay Josh Jacobs, 761 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: So then you'd had Devonte Ander, Devanta Adams, Hunter, Renfro, 762 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, Colton Miller, Aidan O'Connell. Right then you can 763 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: go on the market and grab a center, go on 764 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: the market, get a defensive tackle because they have Crosby. 765 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: When you can go free for four years, it allows 766 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: you to basically go get three high end players. That's 767 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: what you're allowed to do. 768 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 2: And their team was better probably whatever Mac Jones the 769 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 2: year that the Patriots made the Super Bowl, I guess 770 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: or not super Bowl, the playoffs two years ago as 771 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: a wild card and got their butt kicked by the Bills. 772 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: But I think I wonder if in his mind, you know, 773 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy's basically he signed a three year contract money wise, 774 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: just on a one year deal. That if they're not 775 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: thinking like that, because they could go on a two 776 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: year run. That gives them a lot of leeway, buy 777 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: a corner, make a big trade. You got a lot 778 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: of wiggle room with money. 779 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, Buddy, I'm heading on a plane tonight. I'll 780 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: be back late Sunday night. Good seeing you. Thanks for 781 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: those who listened on AMP. John Middlecoff hosted three and 782 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: Out and Go Low Great golf podcast. Good seeing you, 783 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: have a good weekend. 784 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: Colin the Volume