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Speaker 1: I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week on this show,
Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises,
Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the show. Dangerous supernatural
Speaker 1: games and bigfoot teeth. Yeah, two strange topics for you
Speaker 1: on this show. At least two and when it comes
Speaker 1: to supernatural games, most of us have have heard of
Speaker 1: things like Bloody or light as a feather, But I
Speaker 1: recently came across some more weird games that I'd never
Speaker 1: heard of before, like the Answer Man or the Elevator Game.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of those? Well, I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you about them and why that some of them have
Speaker 1: sort of caught on with certain daring people. But I
Speaker 1: think I want to start with the Bigfoot thing. However,
Speaker 1: of course, if you've listened to this show for a while,
Speaker 1: you probably have heard me talk occasionally about cryptids. But
Speaker 1: if you're new to that term, a cryptid is an
Speaker 1: animal that may or may not exist, okay, which is
Speaker 1: related to crypto zoology, and so the classic examples most
Speaker 1: people think of as a cryptid would be, of course,
Speaker 1: like Bigfoot or the lock Nest monster. Then we have
Speaker 1: super bizarro creatures which could also be called cryptids, like
Speaker 1: Mothman or the chupacabra. The Then we also have cryptids,
Speaker 1: which actually, as it turns out, end up being real creatures.
Speaker 1: They move from cryptozoology into the realm of zoology once
Speaker 1: scientists give the creature the stamp of approval. I guess
Speaker 1: a good example of this would be the mountain gorilla.
Speaker 1: It was not discovered by scientists until the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. And then in some cases we have these
Speaker 1: creatures that were thought to be extinct and it turns
Speaker 1: out they are not extinct. One of the best examples,
Speaker 1: of course, was I think in nineteen thirty eight, when
Speaker 1: some fishermen caught a sela cath which was a fish
Speaker 1: that had supposedly been extinct for millions of years, and
Speaker 1: this thing was, you know, swimming around fine and dandy.
Speaker 1: So it's I've always thought it was just amazing to
Speaker 1: think about the fact that scientists did not acknowledge the
Speaker 1: reality of dinosaurs in general until the eighteen hundreds. That's
Speaker 1: not that long ago. I mean, these fossils have always
Speaker 1: been around. I mean, I guess in some cultures they
Speaker 1: would just say, look, we have an old dragon skull
Speaker 1: here or something. But finally, you know, one scientist in particular,
Speaker 1: he said, look, this is real. This is a fossil
Speaker 1: of some kind of well dinosaur means terrible lizard. And
Speaker 1: he said, not only is this real that, as it
Speaker 1: turns out, there are fossils everywhere. I mean, what an
Speaker 1: eye opening revelation that I guess you could say that
Speaker 1: the idea of dinosaurs would have been cryptozoological, that dinosaurs
Speaker 1: would have been cryptids up until that point. So you see,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different facets to what it
Speaker 1: can be considered a cryptid now, as you also may
Speaker 1: or may not know when it comes to many of
Speaker 1: these things, like, for example, Bigfoot. I think that in
Speaker 1: most cases when people say I've seen a Bigfoot, that
Speaker 1: they have encountered some kind of a mystical or metaphysical
Speaker 1: or inter dimensional being. That's my opinion, just because I
Speaker 1: think that if Bigfoot in most cases was a normal
Speaker 1: biological organism running around out there, like the mountain gorilla was,
Speaker 1: then there would be much more physical evidence. That's just
Speaker 1: my opinion, and that's really neither here nor there, because
Speaker 1: I still have always been very interested in the idea
Speaker 1: of cryptids. When I was a little kid, one of
Speaker 1: the first books I read that got me hooked into
Speaker 1: the world of the unknown was about like the Abominable Snowman,
Speaker 1: and then of course I read all about the Patterson
Speaker 1: Bigfoot to encounters and the Locknest monsters. So I collect
Speaker 1: all kinds of interesting things. As you probably recall, I
Speaker 1: even had a museum at one point, and I guess
Speaker 1: I still do have a museum. It's just in storage
Speaker 1: right now, but I'm putting some things back on display.
Speaker 1: But I have got some fossils. I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: fossil collector, but last year I made a contact in
Speaker 1: another country. I don't want to tell you exactly all
Speaker 1: the details yet surrounding who this guy is, but he
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest fossil collectors and dealers that
Speaker 1: I'm aware of in the entire world. And he was
Speaker 1: he was presenting some stuff from his collection that was
Speaker 1: for sale, and he had some plasius sore teeth, And
Speaker 1: instantly my eyes lit up because a lot of people
Speaker 1: have said that if the Locknest Monster is a creature,
Speaker 1: then it might be a pliciosaur that did not go extinct. Now, pliciosaurs,
Speaker 1: like if you think of what the Lucknest Monster supposedly
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, like a creature that's got a
Speaker 1: big hump and flippers or fins and a big long neck. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Pliceosaurus look like. And I think
Speaker 1: that to be technically accurate. That there are. There's a pliciosaur,
Speaker 1: and then then there was a type called a pliciosaurus,
Speaker 1: which was a branch of pliciosaur. But but anyway, as
Speaker 1: I said, dinosaur means terrible lizard, and pliciosaur actually means uh,
Speaker 1: I think it means like seems like a lizard. Okay,
Speaker 1: close to lizard. That's that means. Because a pliciosaur is
Speaker 1: not technically a dinosaur. And I'm just going to call
Speaker 1: them pliceosaurs, but I guess you'd call them pliceosaurus a
Speaker 1: plesiosaur is or it was an ancient aquatic reptile, all right,
Speaker 1: And I'm looking right now at the Wikipedia page, and
Speaker 1: they say distinguishable by its small head, long and slender neck,
Speaker 1: broad turtle like body, short tail, two pairs of large
Speaker 1: elongated paddles. And so if it is indeed possible that
Speaker 1: these did not go extinct millions of years ago, I
Speaker 1: think they say that they supposedly went extinct like sixty
Speaker 1: six million years ago. If they did not, and there
Speaker 1: are still some that are trapped in this body of
Speaker 1: water we know as lockness, then that could certainly be
Speaker 1: a possible explanation for these Lockness monster sightings. Now, whether
Speaker 1: or not that's the case, in my mind, there has
Speaker 1: always been this strong association between pliceosaurs and the lock
Speaker 1: nest monster. And so when this guy says, look, I
Speaker 1: got some plicius or teeth, I thought, well, I've gotta
Speaker 1: buy those. That's just one of the coolest fossils you
Speaker 1: could have, right, And so I bought some plicias or teeth,
Speaker 1: and right off the bat, I thought this would make
Speaker 1: a cool necklace. So I went to my workshop and
Speaker 1: I sat down and started talking to Lauren about different ideas,
Speaker 1: and we figured out a way to turn one of
Speaker 1: these plesios or teeth, which just it looks really cool.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a big, long, sharp, kind
Speaker 1: of tan colored faning is what it kind of looks like,
Speaker 1: like a curved fang because they had these mean teeth.
Speaker 1: If you if you see pictures of this, you'll you'll
Speaker 1: understand what I'm what I'm saying, you would not want
Speaker 1: to get trapped in the jaws of a plesiosaur. But
Speaker 1: it's just a really cool looking necklace. And then I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what if I made myself a necklace that
Speaker 1: also has some kind of a tooth from a Gigantipithecus,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people believe that Bigfoot might actually
Speaker 1: be this creature called Gigantipithecus, which was the largest ape
Speaker 1: that ever lived, and that it did not go extinct.
Speaker 1: So you see the connection. The two probably most famous
Speaker 1: cryptids are Bigfoot in the lock Ness Monster, and the
Speaker 1: two actual ancient extinct creatures associated with those were the
Speaker 1: plesiosaur and the Gigantipithecus. And so I thought, I want
Speaker 1: to get a Gigantipithecus tooth, and that way I have
Speaker 1: this really cool necklace that's got, you know, these teeth
Speaker 1: from these extinct creatures that may be related to these
Speaker 1: famous cryptids. Because Gigantipithecus, I believe it went and extinct,
Speaker 1: they claim about three hundred and fifty thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: and it lived primarily in Asia. Of course, some people
Speaker 1: think that it may have crossed over into North America
Speaker 1: just like people did over like a land bridge over
Speaker 1: the Bearing Straight or something like that. Well regardless, yeah,
Speaker 1: it supposedly went extinct three hundred and fifty thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: and then it was another one of these things I believe.
Speaker 1: In like the nineteen thirties, there was this scientist who
Speaker 1: was in Asia and I think he was in China actually,
Speaker 1: and he went into an apothecary shop where they would
Speaker 1: sell old bones that people would use for different types
Speaker 1: of treatments, you know, sometimes they grind them up and
Speaker 1: drink them, and they were selling these teeth, and he said,
Speaker 1: what the heck are these? And it turns out they
Speaker 1: were calling them dragon teeth, but they were gigantipentthicus teeth,
Speaker 1: and he made this monumental discovery. When we come back
Speaker 1: from this break, I'll tell you how this applies to
Speaker 1: my project and one of the things that I've been
Speaker 1: up to lately, and then later we'll get to dangerous
Speaker 1: supernatural games. As you probably know, if you want to
Speaker 1: be the first person to find out about some of
Speaker 1: these projects that I'm into, like the one I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't talk about them on this podcast until
Speaker 1: I announced them first a week or two in advance.
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Speaker 1: I am Joshua Warren, and you're listening to Strange Things
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Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange
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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird,
Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my
Speaker 1: studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day
Speaker 1: is golden and every night is silver. Ah giatato zoom.
Speaker 1: May you know what? Recently, Lauren and I were walking
Speaker 1: through a casino here in Las Vegas, and, as often happens,
Speaker 1: we walked past a woman who was wearing very little clothes,
Speaker 1: and Lauren and I looked at each other and I said,
Speaker 1: Augia tato zoo ma, And now don't worry. Lauren is
Speaker 1: not the type of woman who gets jealous over things
Speaker 1: like that. Trust me. There are plenty of magic mics
Speaker 1: running around Las Vegas as well. Uh, but we laughed,
Speaker 1: and I realized, hmm, maybe my magical word can be
Speaker 1: used in a variety of other scenarios. I wonder just
Speaker 1: how useful that word is going to end up being.
Speaker 1: You can try that out yourself, perhaps. Okay, So Gigantipithecus
Speaker 1: largest ape that ever lived ten feet tall? Amazing, amazing,
Speaker 1: And did they say that its closest living relative today
Speaker 1: would be orangutans. And Gigantipithecus went extinct because of climate change,
Speaker 1: and supposedly they some of the best remains that they
Speaker 1: found have been in caves in Asia, and it's certainly
Speaker 1: likely that they lived in caves. But they say that
Speaker 1: one thing that they know for sure is that porcupines
Speaker 1: would have dragged their bones into those caves as well,
Speaker 1: because apparently porcupines do not eat meat, eat I mean,
Speaker 1: they eat insects and stuff like that, but they love bones.
Speaker 1: They sharpen their teeth on them, and they also can
Speaker 1: get some nutrients like salt and calcium from them. So
Speaker 1: porcupines gnall on and eat bones. You learn something new
Speaker 1: every day. But that said, still, it turns out very
Speaker 1: few Gigantipithecus fossils have been found. Very few especially good
Speaker 1: ones and so, and who knows how many of them
Speaker 1: may have been destroyed by some of these practices. I
Speaker 1: was telling you about, you know, selling them an apothecary
Speaker 1: shops and stuff before people knew what they were. But
Speaker 1: my understanding is that good fossils are so rare there's
Speaker 1: only one big repository for them, and that's in Europe.
Speaker 1: I think it might be in Germany. And so you
Speaker 1: cannot just go out there and buy a gigantipithic tooth.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably technically impossible to do that. There
Speaker 1: were lots of plesiosaurs. You can buy a pliciasaur tooth,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, I probably the only way
Speaker 1: you get a Gigantopithecus tooth, unless you found one yourself,
Speaker 1: was is to be part of, you know, a university
Speaker 1: or something and you're trying to study it, or maybe
Speaker 1: a museum. So here I am with my necklace, with
Speaker 1: my Plsia sort tooth, and but then I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I'd sure love to have a Gigantipithecus tooth here, even
Speaker 1: though I can't get one. So here's what I did.
Speaker 1: I started studying these fossils because there are some reproductions
Speaker 1: of jawbones and stuff out there. I obtained some of these.
Speaker 1: There are some like scans and three D pictures and
Speaker 1: stuff like that that you can look at. And so,
Speaker 1: long story short, my wife, Lauren is she's very talented
Speaker 1: when it comes to all kinds of arts and crafts,
Speaker 1: and she loves to sculpt things. And so we worked
Speaker 1: together and we studied these fossils and she ended up
Speaker 1: sculpting what we believe is an exact replica of a
Speaker 1: Gigantipithecus tooth. It's huge, it looks amazing. And then I
Speaker 1: contacted the best three D printing experts in all of
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I'm going to give you their website address
Speaker 1: just in case you are in the Vegas area. It's
Speaker 1: called Vegas three D Printing. Their website is Vegas the
Speaker 1: number three and then the letters d P as in
Speaker 1: Vegas three D Printing, So Vegas, Vegas number three DP
Speaker 1: dot com. And I saw went over there and talked
Speaker 1: to the manager. They did a professional scan of this
Speaker 1: Gigantipithecus tooth sculpture. They sent it to their cat artists
Speaker 1: and they were able to put a hole that went
Speaker 1: through it just the right dimensions that I needed, and
Speaker 1: then they produced a small batch of these with their
Speaker 1: best three D printers, and I went and I met
Speaker 1: with the owner of the place and he brought out
Speaker 1: this box and I was like, oh, this is so cool.
Speaker 1: I'm the only person in the world who has got
Speaker 1: these actual replicas, like genuine two scale replicas of Gigantipithecus teeth.
Speaker 1: And so then of course I added it onto my
Speaker 1: necklace with some wooden beads and it's just like, it's
Speaker 1: such a cool necklace. So if you go to bigfoottooth
Speaker 1: dot com right now, bigfoottooth dot com, it depends on
Speaker 1: when you are hearing this podcast, which is why I
Speaker 1: always say subscribe to my e newsletter. But if you
Speaker 1: go to bigfootooth dot com, I may have one of
Speaker 1: those two versions available right now. If you want to
Speaker 1: get one. It's more likely that I'll have one that's
Speaker 1: got the Bigfoot tooth on it. It's less likely I'll
Speaker 1: have the one that has the Bigfoot tooth and the
Speaker 1: Plicia sore tooth, because you know, even though you can
Speaker 1: get Plicias sore teeth, I get the best of the best,
Speaker 1: and you know I have to wait for them to
Speaker 1: be found, and they come from another country, and I
Speaker 1: just can't, you know, go out in my backyard and
Speaker 1: pick a plisisor tooth off the tree. So at Bigfoottooth
Speaker 1: dot com, you'll see this video that I did where
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this process and I'm showing It's like
Speaker 1: a short video, it's only ninety seconds. And so I've
Speaker 1: got this Bigfoot Tooth necklace, and then for a limited time,
Speaker 1: I perhaps will also have the one that has the
Speaker 1: plicias or tooth and I call that the master Cryptid
Speaker 1: Hunter necklace because that's a one hundred percent genuine fossil
Speaker 1: plicius or tooth on that. So there's your your your
Speaker 1: representation of both, you know, the perhaps the ancestors or
Speaker 1: the inspiration for the Lockness Monster and Bigfoot. Now here
Speaker 1: is what I believe. I think that if you wear
Speaker 1: these that it will attract cryptids. So if you're a
Speaker 1: cryptid hunter, if you're serious, then you've got to You've
Speaker 1: got to get one of these, because I believe these
Speaker 1: shapes act as antennas for that energy. I don't have
Speaker 1: time to get into all the big you know, theories
Speaker 1: behind the metaphysics of why. I believe that. But I
Speaker 1: also think if you are literally trying to go out
Speaker 1: there and have these experiences, that you could take one
Speaker 1: of these teeth, or take this necklace and put it
Speaker 1: at least for a little while on a wishing machine
Speaker 1: or a similar manifestation device and enhance your chances of
Speaker 1: having one of these encounters. I believe that. But you
Speaker 1: know what, even if you don't want to have these encounters,
Speaker 1: it's just a really amazing and truly unique conversation piece
Speaker 1: which is exclusively available from me. And I'll actually, you
Speaker 1: know what, in the future, I may even allow some
Speaker 1: vendors to have exclusive access to sell these at particular
Speaker 1: bigfoot festivals around the country. So if you're interested in
Speaker 1: being put on the application list to maybe be a
Speaker 1: vendor who has the exclusive rights to one of these
Speaker 1: at a festival, just email me at contact at Joshuapwarren
Speaker 1: dot com. Contact at Joshuapwarren dot com. Let me know
Speaker 1: what you have in mind, and you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: in the future. That'll be down the road. But I
Speaker 1: can just imagine everyone at a bigfoot festival wearing one
Speaker 1: of these, can't you. It just makes sense, So go
Speaker 1: there at a bigfootooth dot com. And even if you
Speaker 1: don't plan on getting one of these or and again
Speaker 1: I may not even have one in stock, go ahead
Speaker 1: and take a look at the video and see how
Speaker 1: interesting this is. All right, that is what I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell you about the Bigfoot teeth. Now let's move
Speaker 1: on to topic number two, shall we? Dangerous supernatural games. Now.
Speaker 1: I mentioned a little bit ago that most people have
Speaker 1: heard of this game, for example, like Bloody Mary or
Speaker 1: Light as a Feather, Stiff as a Board. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: actually get into those for a minute, because there is
Speaker 1: some interesting stuff I didn't know about those. But not
Speaker 1: too long ago, I was at this oddity shot in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and they had a book section. And to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, these days, I guess I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like everybody else. I don't even buy that many
Speaker 1: books when I'm out somewhere unless it's like a rare
Speaker 1: regional book. If I can get on Amazon, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll just order it and it'll pop up the next
Speaker 1: day usually. But I found this book that I went
Speaker 1: ahead and bought. It's a small, black hardback book. It's
Speaker 1: called Dangerous Games to Play in the Dark. A guide
Speaker 1: to summoning spirits, divining the future, and invoking the supernatural.
Speaker 1: And it is written by someone named Lucia Peters, and
Speaker 1: on the back of it it says, do not try
Speaker 1: this at home. Well, I guess it's time for a break,
Speaker 1: isn't it. When we come back, I'm going to I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you should try these at home, okay, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you some about these, some of
Speaker 1: the ones that stand out in my mind. And if
Speaker 1: you do try some of these, well, I'd like to
Speaker 1: know about it. I swear I'm not a mischief maker.
Speaker 1: This is this is for educational and entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
Speaker 1: and I will be back after these important messages. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren,
Speaker 1: And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got this book called Dangerous Games to Play in
Speaker 1: the Dark by Lucia Peters, says on the Beck. While
Speaker 1: these games might seem like simple dares or tests of bravery,
Speaker 1: chanting in front of a mirror, writing an elevator alone,
Speaker 1: taking pictures in the dark, you may be joined by
Speaker 1: unexpected playmates. They may promise other worldly knowledge or contact
Speaker 1: with the other side. But nothing is without costs. If
Speaker 1: you choose to ignore this advice and play the games
Speaker 1: in this book, just remember what you summon. May not
Speaker 1: want the game to end. And there are about looks
Speaker 1: like I haven't counted, maybe like a couple dozen games
Speaker 1: in here. I have not contacted the author of this
Speaker 1: book for permission to read from it, so I will
Speaker 1: not do that. The author should be happy for the
Speaker 1: little plug the author is getting. But nonetheless, what I
Speaker 1: can tell you is that the author didn't just make
Speaker 1: up these games out of the blue, because you're able
Speaker 1: to also go online and find people talking about playing
Speaker 1: these games, which is really interesting. So I got the
Speaker 1: inspiration for this from that book. But okay, let's start
Speaker 1: with one that everybody knows, Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary is
Speaker 1: a legend of a ghost, phantom, or spirit conjured to
Speaker 1: reveal the future. So it says here online she began. Okay,
Speaker 1: she is said to appear in a mirror when her
Speaker 1: name is chanted repeatedly. The Bloody Mary apparition may be
Speaker 1: benign or or malevolent, depending on historic variations. So I
Speaker 1: remember as a kid, you know, the whole thing was like,
Speaker 1: you'd stand in front of a mirror with maybe a
Speaker 1: dim light, and you'd say Bloody Mary three times, and
Speaker 1: then supposedly she would appear. Of course, she never did.
Speaker 1: This is interesting though, because it does remind you of
Speaker 1: these ancient stories regarding the psychomanteum, so there must be
Speaker 1: a connection, it says here. Historically, the divination ritual encouraged
Speaker 1: young women to walk up a flight of stairs backward,
Speaker 1: holding a candle and a hand mirror in a darkened house.
Speaker 1: As they gazed into the mirror, they were supposed to
Speaker 1: be able to catch a view of their future husband's face.
Speaker 1: There was, however, a chance they would see a skull
Speaker 1: or the face of the grim reaper instead, indicating they
Speaker 1: were going to die before they would have the chance
Speaker 1: to marry. It sounds creepy, doesn't it, And the ritual
Speaker 1: today Bloody Mary allegedly appears to individuals or groups who
Speaker 1: ritualistically invoked her invoked her name in an act of
Speaker 1: Now here's a word that was new to me, m
Speaker 1: an act of catop dramancy. Catop dramancy. Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard of that one? I had to look it up
Speaker 1: here it is. It's pretty simple. It says it is
Speaker 1: divination using a mirror. Now see, I would have just
Speaker 1: thought of that as scrying or something like that, where
Speaker 1: a fortune teller looks into a reflective surface or substance
Speaker 1: and tries to see the future, like Nostradamus. But this
Speaker 1: is apparently a little a bit different. It says here,
Speaker 1: according to the ancient Greek, before the temple of Sarahs
Speaker 1: at Patrus, there was a fountain separated from the temple
Speaker 1: by a wall, and there was an oracle very truthful,
Speaker 1: not for all events, but only for the sick. The
Speaker 1: sick person let down a mirror suspended by a thread
Speaker 1: till its base touched the surface of the water, having
Speaker 1: first prayed to the goddess and offered incense, and then
Speaker 1: looking into the mirror, he saw the presage of death
Speaker 1: or recovery, according as the face appeared fresh and healthy,
Speaker 1: or of a ghastly aspect. All right, So there's a
Speaker 1: new word for you. Catoptromancy is a form also of
Speaker 1: just looking into a mirror, and so you know, for
Speaker 1: Bloody Mary, they say. The explanation here is that staring
Speaker 1: into a mirror in a dimly lit room for a
Speaker 1: prolonged period can cause one to hallucinate, basically, is what
Speaker 1: they're saying. All right, fine, well, how about this one.
Speaker 1: Light as a feathers as a board. Most people know this.
Speaker 1: I think it was even in a movie prominently featured
Speaker 1: with I know you're all screaming the name at me
Speaker 1: right now. I can't remember. It came out a long
Speaker 1: time ago with some young ladies who are trying to
Speaker 1: be witches. But anyway, Light is a feather stiff as
Speaker 1: a board is a game played by children at slumber parties.
Speaker 1: The phrase has also of the craft. That's what I
Speaker 1: do that too much on this show. I can't think
Speaker 1: of something immediately and then it'll pop it into my
Speaker 1: head later, which is why I love to play Jeopardy.
Speaker 1: But I definitely loved the pause button on my remote. Okay,
Speaker 1: Light as a feather stiff as a board is a
Speaker 1: game played by children at slumber parties. The phrase has
Speaker 1: also become established in popular culture as a reference to
Speaker 1: a levitation trick. Okay, And they also say this is
Speaker 1: known as abnormal lift. So here's the idea. One participant
Speaker 1: lies flat on the floor facing upwards. The other space
Speaker 1: themselves around that person, each placing one or two fingertips
Speaker 1: underneath the participant's limbs. The person closest to the head
Speaker 1: commonly begins by saying something like she's looking ill, which
Speaker 1: is repeated several times, and followed by she's looking worse,
Speaker 1: which is also repeated. The general direction of the call
Speaker 1: and repeat describes how the person is looking worse and worse,
Speaker 1: followed by saying she is dying, and finally she is dead,
Speaker 1: and you know, there are different variations, but they say,
Speaker 1: you know, the person has to imagine that you know
Speaker 1: that he or she has died, and now the body
Speaker 1: should be lighter than it was before. And then they
Speaker 1: end by everybody chanting light as a feather, stiff as
Speaker 1: a board as they attempt to lift their companion's body
Speaker 1: using only their fingertips, and it seems like that the
Speaker 1: person is, you know, almost weightless. They say, you can
Speaker 1: explain this because the key to the trick is timing.
Speaker 1: Each of the lifters must apply the lifting force at
Speaker 1: the same moment. When this is done, the weight of
Speaker 1: the subject is divided equally between each lifter. So they say, say,
Speaker 1: if you try to do this without synchronizing the lift,
Speaker 1: it will fill. All right, this is you know, this
Speaker 1: is what they're claiming. And they say, the history of
Speaker 1: this is pretty remarkable. That there was a diary of
Speaker 1: a guy who lived in the sixteen hundreds. He was
Speaker 1: a naval administrator who wrote about seeing some little girls
Speaker 1: all playing this game back then. So again, you probably
Speaker 1: heard of those, but have you heard of this one
Speaker 1: called the answer Man? This was a new one for me.
Speaker 1: The answer Man is an urban legend about a game
Speaker 1: that is played by kids in Japan, and they say
Speaker 1: the game can invoke an evil spe that will answer
Speaker 1: any question put to it. So here's how you supposedly
Speaker 1: play this game. And this shows you how modern this
Speaker 1: is because you need ten people with ten mobile phones.
Speaker 1: And this version is coming from a website called scaryfourkids
Speaker 1: dot com. How to disturb your kids psychologically? Okay, step
Speaker 1: it out again. Ten people with ten mobile phones. Step one.
Speaker 1: Gather ten people in a loose circle. Each person must
Speaker 1: have the number of the person to their left. Okay,
Speaker 1: so whoever you end up sitting next to whoever is
Speaker 1: on your left, you need to have that person's number
Speaker 1: on your phone. On the count of three, each person
Speaker 1: presses the call button to call the person on the left,
Speaker 1: and then next step. Here, everyone puts their phone to
Speaker 1: their ear and listens. Because everyone is calling everyone else
Speaker 1: at the same time, all of the phones should be busy,
Speaker 1: so nobody should receive an answer. However, what will happen
Speaker 1: is that one person will find that their call is
Speaker 1: mysteriously answered, and guess what they will hear a voice
Speaker 1: on the other end of the line. This is the
Speaker 1: answer man. Nobody knows who the answer man is, all right,
Speaker 1: the answer man exists somewhere out there then the nether ether.
Speaker 1: When you are on the phone with the answer man,
Speaker 1: you can ask him anything and he will answer whatever
Speaker 1: question you put to him. However, after he gives you
Speaker 1: your answer, he will have a question for you. And
Speaker 1: they say that if you answer his question incorrectly or
Speaker 1: you are unable to give an answer, a large, gnarled
Speaker 1: hand will appear from the phone and tear off a
Speaker 1: piece of your body. Now, according to legend, the answer
Speaker 1: man is the ghost of a child who was born
Speaker 1: severely deformed. He had no arms, legs, even torso just
Speaker 1: ahead and ever since then his ghost has been trying
Speaker 1: to become a complete human being by collecting the body
Speaker 1: parts of others. You know, they say that Bloody Mary
Speaker 1: sometimes will appear and scratch your eyes out. So there's
Speaker 1: always something bad that can happen if things go wrong here.
Speaker 1: So the next time you have a party get your
Speaker 1: ten friends together, may as well videotape it. You know,
Speaker 1: have maybe have an eleventh person there who's not involved,
Speaker 1: to just record it and try this out and see
Speaker 1: what happens and let me know. But one of the
Speaker 1: more complex ones that also has perhaps an even spookier
Speaker 1: connection is the Elevator game. And I say that because
Speaker 1: there was a real young woman who played the Well,
Speaker 1: she ended up dead, Okay, let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: And some people believe she ended up dead because that
Speaker 1: she was playing the Elevator game all by herself. You
Speaker 1: may have even seen a documentary about this woman's death
Speaker 1: on Netflix. It happened at the Cecil Hotel in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it in a minute. I'm Joshua P. Warren,
Speaker 1: you're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the Elevator Game. Here is one
Speaker 1: description from MagellanTV dot com. What is the Elevator game? Well,
Speaker 1: it purports to blur the lines of reality for players
Speaker 1: if they follow the rules and don't make a potentially
Speaker 1: fatal mistake. And then they say. There was one disturbing
Speaker 1: case that has caught the attention of some people who
Speaker 1: believe in this game. And before I tell you about
Speaker 1: the game, this is true. The last known video of
Speaker 1: a woman named Elisa Lamb Alive showed her in an
Speaker 1: elevator in the Cecil Hotel and days later her body
Speaker 1: was found in the hotel's water tank. To this day,
Speaker 1: nobody knows how she died or how her body got there. Now,
Speaker 1: I learned about this by watching this Netflix documentary called
Speaker 1: crime Scene The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel. Cecil is
Speaker 1: spelled Cecil. It is an old hotel that has just
Speaker 1: a really violent, sordid history. I believe Richard Ramirez, the Nightstalker,
Speaker 1: used to go and hang out there, and just a
Speaker 1: super haunted, creepy hotel. And sure enough, this woman named
Speaker 1: Elisa Lamb. She was the daughter of Chinese immigrants and
Speaker 1: she was born in Canada and she I think she
Speaker 1: was pretty much like on a vacation by herself, and
Speaker 1: she decided to stay at the Cecil hotel. And when
Speaker 1: you watch the security footage from the elevator in the hallway,
Speaker 1: it's really unnerving and unsettling because this one night, this
Speaker 1: was in twenty thirteen, she gets on this elevator by herself,
Speaker 1: and she there's tons of footage of her clearly interacting
Speaker 1: with invisible people. That's what it looks like, an invisible
Speaker 1: person or invisible people, and she's sometimes she peeks her
Speaker 1: head out of the elevator and she's looking in the
Speaker 1: hall like somebody's there, and then she'll she'll go back
Speaker 1: and forth. And this does not look like some kind
Speaker 1: of playful fun thing. It looks like that she is
Speaker 1: freaking out, and it's it's very troubling to watch this
Speaker 1: footage of her acting so erratically, and then she disappears,
Speaker 1: and then they found her I think it was like
Speaker 1: a month later or whatever, inside this water tank on
Speaker 1: the roof of the hotel. And throughout this whole period
Speaker 1: of time there were people staying at the hotel who
Speaker 1: were drinking, you know, this water of her body was in.
Speaker 1: That's how they discovered her, because people were complaining about
Speaker 1: water pressure and all that. And nobody knows to this
Speaker 1: day how she ended up in this water tank, this cistern.
Speaker 1: They say it must have been some kind of accident,
Speaker 1: but it's hard to understand how she got in there.
Speaker 1: And in fact, there are people who point out the
Speaker 1: similarity between what happened to her in this two thousand
Speaker 1: and two horror movie called Dark Water. So that is
Speaker 1: something you might want to look into if you're into,
Speaker 1: you know, unsettling mysteries. Again, Netflix crime scene, the vanishing
Speaker 1: at the Cecil Hotel, and so there are people who
Speaker 1: think that it's possible, it's possible that somehow she was
Speaker 1: playing out this version of this urban legend called the
Speaker 1: Elevator game. Now this is kind of complex, so I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go through all the details. But again
Speaker 1: I'm getting this particular information from magelantv dot com and
Speaker 1: it says that the popular okay, the popularity of the
Speaker 1: elevator game has been you know, influenced by what happened
Speaker 1: to her. And there are many steps to playing and
Speaker 1: surviving the game, and it is imperative that you follow
Speaker 1: them precisely in the exact order. Okay, So you play
Speaker 1: this usually by yourself. You have to to get on
Speaker 1: an elevator in a building that has a minimum of
Speaker 1: ten floors, so you would walk in alone. No outsider
Speaker 1: can enter the elevator with you, nor can you leave
Speaker 1: at any point. If you do exit the elevator, you
Speaker 1: must start over. Step two. You ride the elevator from
Speaker 1: floor to floor in a specific sequence. So you go
Speaker 1: first like up to the fourth floor, and then down
Speaker 1: to the second floor, and then to the sixth floor
Speaker 1: and down to the second floor again, and then up
Speaker 1: to the tenth floor and then down to the fifth floor.
Speaker 1: And you must remember not to get off at any
Speaker 1: of those floors when you finally get to the fifth floor.
Speaker 1: If you encounter a mysterious woman, do not look at
Speaker 1: her and do not answer or interact with her. In
Speaker 1: any way. The consequences of engaging with her are said
Speaker 1: to include the possibility of never returning to the real world.
Speaker 1: Step forward, now, you push the button to descend from
Speaker 1: the fifth floor to the first floor, and that's where
Speaker 1: things could get really crazy. If the elevator operates normally
Speaker 1: and takes you to the first floor, you can exit
Speaker 1: immediately and do not look back or talk to anyone.
Speaker 1: But if instead of taking you from the fifth to
Speaker 1: the first floor, the elevator begins to go up, well, congratulations,
Speaker 1: you are now being allowed into another world, an alternative reality.
Speaker 1: And if that happens, you might just freak out and
Speaker 1: just press the emergency button and stop the elevator and
Speaker 1: wait for the fire department to get you out of there. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: you now are on your way to this other world
Speaker 1: where all kinds of things might happen. Things may look different,
Speaker 1: it might be dark and spooky, the power might be
Speaker 1: out and no one else will exist or be around.
Speaker 1: You might just lose consciousness. And then there are these
Speaker 1: steps for what you must do to get back into
Speaker 1: the real world, specific steps that you have to follow
Speaker 1: as well. And if you actually want to try this out,
Speaker 1: you can look this up on your own and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do it. I'm not going to try it,
Speaker 1: but if you try it. If you try it, you
Speaker 1: are welcome to contact me and tell me what happens
Speaker 1: to you. And if it's interesting enough, who knows, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I will include it on this show. So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have time to go into more of these games.
Speaker 1: But again, I have no connection to this book or
Speaker 1: this author, but pretty interesting, dangerous games to play in
Speaker 1: the dark. Play at your own risk. So here's what
Speaker 1: I want to close the show with. There has been
Speaker 1: a lot of talk lately about the threat of AI,
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, and frankly, you know, people are so into
Speaker 1: computers and what's happening on their smartphone and their tab
Speaker 1: and everything that even you know, reading about these dangerous games,
Speaker 1: it's kind of reassuring to me because it makes me think, like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice that there are still people out there,
Speaker 1: especially kids, who are just interacting and having social time
Speaker 1: and playing real, kind of old fashion games, some that
Speaker 1: may even go back hundreds of years. That's kind of nice.
Speaker 1: But as as we hear about the threat of AI,
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't need me to give you
Speaker 1: my opinion on that too much. You have people like
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who knows a lot more about it than
Speaker 1: I do, talking about how this could get out of
Speaker 1: control and ultimately in a worst case scenario, it would
Speaker 1: be kind of like the Terminator movies. The idea is
Speaker 1: that this AI could reach a point where it is
Speaker 1: so much smarter than humans that it finds a way
Speaker 1: to survive without humans, and so it ultimately destroys humans.
Speaker 1: It kills off humans, if for no other reason, to
Speaker 1: make sure that we don't try to kill it off,
Speaker 1: you know, survival of the fittest. So the idea is
Speaker 1: that we humans are the smartest creatures on the planet, supposedly,
Speaker 1: and yet we have created something, now, this digital you know, devil,
Speaker 1: that is smarter than we are by a long shot,
Speaker 1: and so now it's going to kill us off. Now,
Speaker 1: whether or not that scenario plays out, and I can
Speaker 1: see why that might happen, here's what it made me
Speaker 1: think of it. I just want to toss this out
Speaker 1: here real quick. What if whatever created humans encountered the
Speaker 1: same thing whatever we considered God, you know, we're the
Speaker 1: Frankenstein monster, whoever Frankenstein was. What if we killed God
Speaker 1: in the same way that AI will kill us. Is
Speaker 1: there this cycle of the creation killing the creator because
Speaker 1: the creator reaches a point where it creates something that's
Speaker 1: so much better or superior in certain ways, or at
Speaker 1: least dangerous in certain ways, that the process reverses and
Speaker 1: the creation kills the creator. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into this big conversation about who is God and what
Speaker 1: is God? But I think you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Is it possible Everybody's like, where is God? God has
Speaker 1: created us and abandoned us? Well, I don't think that's true,
Speaker 1: but it's interesting to think about this idea that maybe
Speaker 1: that's how it works in some way, that God made
Speaker 1: us and gave us too much power and we kind
Speaker 1: of have killed God, at least symbolically in our own minds.
Speaker 1: All right, let's forget that now, let's listen all together
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