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Speaker 2: Things with Joshua Wren.

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Speaker 1: I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week on this show,

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Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises,

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Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a

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Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the show. Dangerous supernatural

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Speaker 1: games and bigfoot teeth. Yeah, two strange topics for you

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Speaker 1: on this show. At least two and when it comes

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Speaker 1: to supernatural games, most of us have have heard of

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Speaker 1: things like Bloody or light as a feather, But I

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of those? Well, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: with I know you're all screaming the name at me

425
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: right now. I can't remember. It came out a long

426
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: time ago with some young ladies who are trying to

427
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: be witches. But anyway, Light is a feather stiff as

428
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: a board is a game played by children at slumber parties.

429
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: The phrase has also of the craft. That's what I

430
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: do that too much on this show. I can't think

431
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: of something immediately and then it'll pop it into my

432
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: head later, which is why I love to play Jeopardy.

433
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: But I definitely loved the pause button on my remote. Okay,

434
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: Light as a feather stiff as a board is a

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: game played by children at slumber parties. The phrase has

436
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: also become established in popular culture as a reference to

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00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: a levitation trick. Okay, And they also say this is

438
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: known as abnormal lift. So here's the idea. One participant

439
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: lies flat on the floor facing upwards. The other space

440
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: themselves around that person, each placing one or two fingertips

441
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: underneath the participant's limbs. The person closest to the head

442
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: commonly begins by saying something like she's looking ill, which

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: is repeated several times, and followed by she's looking worse,

444
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: which is also repeated. The general direction of the call

445
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: and repeat describes how the person is looking worse and worse,

446
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: followed by saying she is dying, and finally she is dead,

447
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: and you know, there are different variations, but they say,

448
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, the person has to imagine that you know

449
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: that he or she has died, and now the body

450
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: should be lighter than it was before. And then they

451
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: end by everybody chanting light as a feather, stiff as

452
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: a board as they attempt to lift their companion's body

453
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Speaker 1: using only their fingertips, and it seems like that the

454
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: person is, you know, almost weightless. They say, you can

455
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: explain this because the key to the trick is timing.

456
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Each of the lifters must apply the lifting force at

457
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: the same moment. When this is done, the weight of

458
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: the subject is divided equally between each lifter. So they say, say,

459
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: if you try to do this without synchronizing the lift,

460
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: it will fill. All right, this is you know, this

461
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: is what they're claiming. And they say, the history of

462
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: this is pretty remarkable. That there was a diary of

463
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: a guy who lived in the sixteen hundreds. He was

464
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: a naval administrator who wrote about seeing some little girls

465
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: all playing this game back then. So again, you probably

466
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: heard of those, but have you heard of this one

467
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: called the answer Man? This was a new one for me.

468
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: The answer Man is an urban legend about a game

469
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: that is played by kids in Japan, and they say

470
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Speaker 1: the game can invoke an evil spe that will answer

471
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: any question put to it. So here's how you supposedly

472
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: play this game. And this shows you how modern this

473
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: is because you need ten people with ten mobile phones.

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Speaker 1: And this version is coming from a website called scaryfourkids

475
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Speaker 1: dot com. How to disturb your kids psychologically? Okay, step

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00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: it out again. Ten people with ten mobile phones. Step one.

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Speaker 1: Gather ten people in a loose circle. Each person must

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00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: have the number of the person to their left. Okay,

479
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: so whoever you end up sitting next to whoever is

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00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: on your left, you need to have that person's number

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: on your phone. On the count of three, each person

482
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: presses the call button to call the person on the left,

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Speaker 1: and then next step. Here, everyone puts their phone to

484
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: their ear and listens. Because everyone is calling everyone else

485
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: at the same time, all of the phones should be busy,

486
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: so nobody should receive an answer. However, what will happen

487
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: is that one person will find that their call is

488
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: mysteriously answered, and guess what they will hear a voice

489
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: on the other end of the line. This is the

490
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: answer man. Nobody knows who the answer man is, all right,

491
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: the answer man exists somewhere out there then the nether ether.

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00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: When you are on the phone with the answer man,

493
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: you can ask him anything and he will answer whatever

494
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: question you put to him. However, after he gives you

495
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: your answer, he will have a question for you. And

496
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: they say that if you answer his question incorrectly or

497
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: you are unable to give an answer, a large, gnarled

498
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: hand will appear from the phone and tear off a

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00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: piece of your body. Now, according to legend, the answer

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00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: man is the ghost of a child who was born

501
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: severely deformed. He had no arms, legs, even torso just

502
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: ahead and ever since then his ghost has been trying

503
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: to become a complete human being by collecting the body

504
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: parts of others. You know, they say that Bloody Mary

505
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: sometimes will appear and scratch your eyes out. So there's

506
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: always something bad that can happen if things go wrong here.

507
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: So the next time you have a party get your

508
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: ten friends together, may as well videotape it. You know,

509
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: have maybe have an eleventh person there who's not involved,

510
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: to just record it and try this out and see

511
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: what happens and let me know. But one of the

512
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: more complex ones that also has perhaps an even spookier

513
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: connection is the Elevator game. And I say that because

514
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: there was a real young woman who played the Well,

515
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: she ended up dead, Okay, let's put it that way.

516
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: And some people believe she ended up dead because that

517
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: she was playing the Elevator game all by herself. You

518
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: may have even seen a documentary about this woman's death

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00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: on Netflix. It happened at the Cecil Hotel in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it in a minute. I'm Joshua P. Warren,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast

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00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be

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Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this

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Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the Elevator Game. Here is one

527
00:38:53,200 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: description from MagellanTV dot com. What is the Elevator game? Well,

528
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: it purports to blur the lines of reality for players

529
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: if they follow the rules and don't make a potentially

530
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: fatal mistake. And then they say. There was one disturbing

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00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: case that has caught the attention of some people who

532
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: believe in this game. And before I tell you about

533
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: the game, this is true. The last known video of

534
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: a woman named Elisa Lamb Alive showed her in an

535
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: elevator in the Cecil Hotel and days later her body

536
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: was found in the hotel's water tank. To this day,

537
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: nobody knows how she died or how her body got there. Now,

538
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: I learned about this by watching this Netflix documentary called

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00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: crime Scene The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel. Cecil is

540
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: spelled Cecil. It is an old hotel that has just

541
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: a really violent, sordid history. I believe Richard Ramirez, the Nightstalker,

542
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: used to go and hang out there, and just a

543
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: super haunted, creepy hotel. And sure enough, this woman named

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00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Elisa Lamb. She was the daughter of Chinese immigrants and

545
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: she was born in Canada and she I think she

546
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: was pretty much like on a vacation by herself, and

547
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: she decided to stay at the Cecil hotel. And when

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00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: you watch the security footage from the elevator in the hallway,

549
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: it's really unnerving and unsettling because this one night, this

550
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: was in twenty thirteen, she gets on this elevator by herself,

551
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: and she there's tons of footage of her clearly interacting

552
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: with invisible people. That's what it looks like, an invisible

553
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: person or invisible people, and she's sometimes she peeks her

554
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: head out of the elevator and she's looking in the

555
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: hall like somebody's there, and then she'll she'll go back

556
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: and forth. And this does not look like some kind

557
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: of playful fun thing. It looks like that she is

558
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: freaking out, and it's it's very troubling to watch this

559
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: footage of her acting so erratically, and then she disappears,

560
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: and then they found her I think it was like

561
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: a month later or whatever, inside this water tank on

562
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: the roof of the hotel. And throughout this whole period

563
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: of time there were people staying at the hotel who

564
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: were drinking, you know, this water of her body was in.

565
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: That's how they discovered her, because people were complaining about

566
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: water pressure and all that. And nobody knows to this

567
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: day how she ended up in this water tank, this cistern.

568
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: They say it must have been some kind of accident,

569
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: but it's hard to understand how she got in there.

570
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: And in fact, there are people who point out the

571
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: similarity between what happened to her in this two thousand

572
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: and two horror movie called Dark Water. So that is

573
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: something you might want to look into if you're into,

574
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, unsettling mysteries. Again, Netflix crime scene, the vanishing

575
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: at the Cecil Hotel, and so there are people who

576
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: think that it's possible, it's possible that somehow she was

577
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: playing out this version of this urban legend called the

578
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Elevator game. Now this is kind of complex, so I'm

579
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: not going to go through all the details. But again

580
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting this particular information from magelantv dot com and

581
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: it says that the popular okay, the popularity of the

582
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: elevator game has been you know, influenced by what happened

583
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: to her. And there are many steps to playing and

584
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: surviving the game, and it is imperative that you follow

585
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: them precisely in the exact order. Okay, So you play

586
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: this usually by yourself. You have to to get on

587
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: an elevator in a building that has a minimum of

588
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: ten floors, so you would walk in alone. No outsider

589
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: can enter the elevator with you, nor can you leave

590
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: at any point. If you do exit the elevator, you

591
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: must start over. Step two. You ride the elevator from

592
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: floor to floor in a specific sequence. So you go

593
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: first like up to the fourth floor, and then down

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00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: to the second floor, and then to the sixth floor

595
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: and down to the second floor again, and then up

596
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: to the tenth floor and then down to the fifth floor.

597
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: And you must remember not to get off at any

598
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: of those floors when you finally get to the fifth floor.

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00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: If you encounter a mysterious woman, do not look at

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00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: her and do not answer or interact with her. In

601
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: any way. The consequences of engaging with her are said

602
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: to include the possibility of never returning to the real world.

603
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: Step forward, now, you push the button to descend from

604
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: the fifth floor to the first floor, and that's where

605
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: things could get really crazy. If the elevator operates normally

606
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: and takes you to the first floor, you can exit

607
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: immediately and do not look back or talk to anyone.

608
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: But if instead of taking you from the fifth to

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00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: the first floor, the elevator begins to go up, well, congratulations,

610
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: you are now being allowed into another world, an alternative reality.

611
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: And if that happens, you might just freak out and

612
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: just press the emergency button and stop the elevator and

613
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: wait for the fire department to get you out of there. Otherwise,

614
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: you now are on your way to this other world

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00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: where all kinds of things might happen. Things may look different,

616
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: it might be dark and spooky, the power might be

617
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: out and no one else will exist or be around.

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00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: You might just lose consciousness. And then there are these

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00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: steps for what you must do to get back into

620
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: the real world, specific steps that you have to follow

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00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: as well. And if you actually want to try this out,

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00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: you can look this up on your own and I'm

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00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: not going to do it. I'm not going to try it,

624
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: but if you try it. If you try it, you

625
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: are welcome to contact me and tell me what happens

626
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: to you. And if it's interesting enough, who knows, I'm

627
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: sure I will include it on this show. So you know,

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00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't have time to go into more of these games.

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00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: But again, I have no connection to this book or

630
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: this author, but pretty interesting, dangerous games to play in

631
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: the dark. Play at your own risk. So here's what

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00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: I want to close the show with. There has been

633
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of talk lately about the threat of AI,

634
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, and frankly, you know, people are so into

635
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: computers and what's happening on their smartphone and their tab

636
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: and everything that even you know, reading about these dangerous games,

637
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of reassuring to me because it makes me think, like,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of nice that there are still people out there,

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Speaker 1: and playing real, kind of old fashion games, some that

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Speaker 1: may even go back hundreds of years. That's kind of nice.

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Speaker 1: But as as we hear about the threat of AI,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you don't need me to give you

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Speaker 1: my opinion on that too much. You have people like

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who knows a lot more about it than

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Speaker 1: I do, talking about how this could get out of

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Speaker 1: be kind of like the Terminator movies. The idea is

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Speaker 1: that this AI could reach a point where it is

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Speaker 1: so much smarter than humans that it finds a way

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Speaker 1: It kills off humans, if for no other reason, to

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Speaker 1: make sure that we don't try to kill it off,

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Speaker 1: you know, survival of the fittest. So the idea is

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Speaker 1: that we humans are the smartest creatures on the planet, supposedly,

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Speaker 1: and yet we have created something, now, this digital you know, devil,

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Speaker 1: that is smarter than we are by a long shot,

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Speaker 1: and so now it's going to kill us off. Now,

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Speaker 1: whether or not that scenario plays out, and I can

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Speaker 1: see why that might happen, here's what it made me

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Speaker 1: think of it. I just want to toss this out

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Speaker 1: here real quick. What if whatever created humans encountered the

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Speaker 1: same thing whatever we considered God, you know, we're the

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Speaker 1: Frankenstein monster, whoever Frankenstein was. What if we killed God

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Speaker 1: in the same way that AI will kill us. Is

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Speaker 1: there this cycle of the creation killing the creator because

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Speaker 1: the creator reaches a point where it creates something that's

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Speaker 1: so much better or superior in certain ways, or at

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Speaker 1: least dangerous in certain ways, that the process reverses and

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Speaker 1: the creation kills the creator. I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: into this big conversation about who is God and what

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Speaker 1: is God? But I think you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible Everybody's like, where is God? God has

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Speaker 1: created us and abandoned us? Well, I don't think that's true,

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Speaker 1: but it's interesting to think about this idea that maybe

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Speaker 1: that's how it works in some way, that God made

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Speaker 1: us and gave us too much power and we kind

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Speaker 1: of have killed God, at least symbolically in our own minds.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's forget that now, let's listen all together

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