1 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: And we're back second time this week Late Kick Extra podcast. 2 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate, happy to have you with me. Five 3 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: star reviews continue to pour in. Think you, thank you, 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Please keep those five star reviews coming. 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: This is the new format. As I mentioned, this is 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: the second episode of Late Kick Extra this week. That's 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: the way it's going to be because of you and 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: those five star reviews from now through at least the 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: end of the football season. 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There 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: has been a very noticeable shift in the overall way 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: that the college football media industry, if you will, covers 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: this sport. And there's been a path down which many 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: in our industry have chosen to go. And it turns 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: you off, and I know because it turns me off too. 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I consumed college football 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: content the way that I used to. To be honest with you, 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: it's why I wanted to go into this line of 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: work because I thought I was able to do it. 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: But secondly, I just thought that people like me, we're 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: being so underserved. And when I say people like me, 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: it's synonymous with people like you, because that's really who 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: I identify with. I don't walk into a press box 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: and look around and say these are my people. This 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: sounds kind of cheesy, but I'm telling you it's the 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: God's honest truth. I would be much more at home 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: walking out into section three thirteen, Row thirty two, because 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: that's where my people are. Those are the folks I 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: identify with. You're the folks I identify with, And a 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: lot of the coverage out there is not really aimed 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: at you anymore. It's not made to serve you. It's 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: made to serve basically the folks who would be sitting 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: in a press box. So that's not on us. I 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: can't make decisions for other people, but I can decide 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: how we structure late Kick and the folks here at 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. We talk about it, as I've 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: told you constantly. We choose to go a different route, 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and the route that we go down is the one 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: that we think you're waiting for us on. And so 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: that is the way it's going to be here. That 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: is the mission statement, that is our identity, and that 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: is the way we go about things every day. And 59 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: when I tell you that you're doing work, every subscription 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: to the twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel, every one 61 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: of the five star reviews you give this podcast, or 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: the Barton and Bud podcast, or the College Football Daily, 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: or any of a number of our team site specific 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: podcast I don't want to name one or two because 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: them forty seven others will get mad so I'll just 66 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: tell you, hey, if you're a fan of a major program, 67 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: there's a podcast out there, tailor made with your program's 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: name on it, courtesy of twenty four to seven Sports. 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: When you're helping us out and you're leaving those comments 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: and you're sharing this content, people notice. And I'm not 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: just talking about it twenty four to seven Sports. People 72 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: up the ladder even further at CBS Sports. They notice. 73 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: And the way you get more of the kind of 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: content that you want is you make it happen. And 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: you've been making it happen here. That's why I'm giving 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: you two of these episodes per week and three editions 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: of Late Kick Live per week. It's a direct result 78 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: and a direct reaction to what you've done. So I 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: just wanted to kick it off with giving you a great, 80 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: big All Caps thank you. Probably won't be the last time. 81 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Now without further ado, let's get into it, because we 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: have got a loaded, loaded mail bag here and predictably, 83 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: a ton of you asked last night, I'm recording this 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: late late Wednesday night, so you're probably listening on Thursday. 85 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call last night Wednesday night. Wednesday night, there 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: was a report from Dave Biddle, just scooping everyone's ice 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: cream by the way, high five to Dave Biddle over 88 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: at Bututnuts dot com. That's our Ohio State twenty four 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: to seven site. And as everyone else has been wringing 90 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: their hands trying to break news up there, Biddle just 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: scoops them all and he breaks a story over on 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: butt Nuts and the story is essentially the Big Ten 93 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: is going to revote on their decision to postpone the season, 94 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: and that revote haven't nailed down a date. A lot 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: of this is fluid. I want to stress that is 96 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: the f word of this podcast tonight. Fluid. Fluidity. It's 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: always been that way, it still is that way. It 98 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: looks like this is gonna happen latter portion of this week, 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: and in case you haven't noticed it already, is the 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: latter portion of the week. So this could come anytime, 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: could stretch into early next week, who knows. But first off, 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: hat tip Dave Biddle forgetting this. It is fluid, and 103 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: if it's going down the way that Biddle and company 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: have reported over on buck Nuts. A few thoughts here 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: my initial reaction, and then I got a couple of 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: more sub reactions off of this is I thought, huh, well, 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: there's no way they're going to revote and arrive at 108 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: the same decision. I mean, they couldn't possibly be that dumb, 109 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: could they. That would be a pr nightmare that they 110 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: don't want any part of They don't want a part 111 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: of what's going on now, to be honest with you, 112 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: And so you would think, okay, well, if they're going 113 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: to revote, then already a straw vote has to have 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: taken place behind the scenes, and they know if they 115 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: have the votes or not. But here was my second thought. 116 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: My second thought was, okay, well, if we're going to 117 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: get a revote, maybe that is to just merely publicize 118 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: or put on the record a plan to start the 119 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: season in late November or in January, some of the 120 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: alternative ideas they've been floating to begin with. I think 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: that's maybe less likely, but it certainly is a possibility, 122 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: because no one really knows for sure. Here was the 123 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: third one, and this is kind of more in the 124 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: weeds a little bit. It could be that this revote 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: is taking place in direct response to an ongoing lawsuit 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: in Nebraska. I've been tweeting about this been subtly mentioning 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: on Lake Kick Live a lot. I've been mentioning it here. 128 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on this. Remember there was a lawsuit 129 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: filed by parents of Nebraska players, and it's for seventy 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: five grand Really, what it's meant to do is force 131 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: the Big Ten's hand and you either provide documentation of 132 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: how you arrived at your initial conclusion or overturn that conclusion. 133 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: Is what we really want. If we're the Nebraska parents 134 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: and pretty much everyone out here with common sense at 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: this point, and we just want you to overturn it 136 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: and drop this postponement and let's have the season, and 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: if you do that will drop the lawsuit. I mean, 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: that's essentially what it is. It's like an episode of 139 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: Perry Mason Colombo. It's really really been fun to watch. Well, 140 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: what happened there is this evening, So again I'm recording 141 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday evening. There was word out of Nebraska that the 142 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Big Ten had been told, hey, you got ten days 143 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: to provide discovery here and so translation, they're going to 144 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: have to show the plaintiffs in that lawsuit how they 145 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: arrived at that conclusion. And so here was my third thought. 146 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: My third thought, maybe this is direct response to that, 147 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: and maybe there's for whatever reason, now, maybe they're scared 148 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: of that discovery process because who in the world knows 149 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: what it could reveal. I don't know, you don't know, 150 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: But maybe they're scared of that to the point where 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: they're willing to override that initial decision and they're willing 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's go for it, thumbs up, we 153 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: won't look terrible because the sec ACC Big twelve, they're 154 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: all doing it. Let's play or and this is the 155 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: one I don't want to have happen, but it's on 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the table. It could be that they know they didn't 157 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: handle the process the right way the first time, and 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: now they're simply making the same decision, but they're using 159 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: proper methodology. That could be a possibility. Basically, what I'm 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: telling you is, I think there's reason to be cautiously optimistic. 161 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: I think we got some track here. I don't think 162 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: that the people who are informed and pretty credible on this, 163 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: I don't think there would be this level of sudden 164 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: excitement over something that was going to fall flat. But 165 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: it's been a talking point for a while and continues 166 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: to be Presidents and chancellors are making the decisions. So 167 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: it's great if Ryan Day is texting me right now, 168 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: and he's not. But if he was texting me right 169 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: now saying we're good to go, that would be great. 170 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: But it's only great if he's being told that by 171 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: presidents and chancellors. Those are the folks, for better or 172 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: for worse, making the decision here. So keep an eye out. 173 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: You're listening to this on Thursday. Things could be happening 174 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday. That is both the beauty and the really 175 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of scary nature of recording these the night before 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: and releasing them the next day. Jay is next up. 177 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: What is the most random encounter that's ever happened to 178 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: you at a game? I'm so glad this question came in. 179 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I got a couple of them that happened within a 180 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: two week span of each other. Twenty seventeen semi final 181 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff. It was at the Sugar Bowl. That 182 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: was the year that it was Bama Clemson in New Orleans. 183 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: It was Georgia Oklahoma and the Rose Bowl. So I 184 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: went to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl semi Final, 185 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: and that was a rematch of the previous year's National 186 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: championship game previous two years national championship games. And so 187 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm walking around the bowels of the Superdome before the 188 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: game happens, and I'm about to get on the press 189 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: elevator to go up to the press box to get 190 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: what is probably one of the best spreads in all 191 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: of sports media, and that is the spread you get 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: at the Superdome in New Orleans. Yummy, yummy, yummy. But anyway, 193 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: LSU does a really good job too. If you're going 194 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: to Louisiana for football, you will eat very well. You 195 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: will be taken care of. I press the button on 196 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: the elevator and all of a sudden, here it comes 197 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: just an army of people and it's get out of 198 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: the way, Get out of the way, Get out of 199 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: the way. And then they didn't shove me. They said, sir, 200 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: can we get this elevator? But it was one of 201 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: those tones where you don't really have a choice. It's 202 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: kind of a formality, and I said, why not, Yeah, 203 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: take it. I got twenty minutes to spare here. And 204 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: it was the governor of Louisiana. I said, oh, that's great, Okay, 205 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: well I'll write that in my journal later tonight. If 206 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I remember door closes, there goes the governor. Fast forward 207 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: two weeks, or maybe not even two weeks. It was 208 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: one week, so it was seven days later. We're in 209 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta National Championship Game. It's Alabama versus Georgia. It is 210 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: a dream scenario for anyone who covered college football in 211 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: Columbus Georgia. Two of the three biggest teams in your 212 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: media market are playing an hour up the road from 213 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: you in the National Championship game. President's going to be there, 214 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: everyone knows it. That means get there six or seven 215 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: hours early for us. So I was in the building 216 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: like twelve o'clock that afternoon. I think I took two 217 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: naps in Mercedes Benz Stadium that afternoon in places that 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: were not designated for sleeping, I can tell you that. 219 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: And so game time's approaching, and again I love to 220 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: be near locker room areas right before kickoff because I 221 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: can get you, guys, footage that you will never see 222 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: anywhere else. And sometimes I'll run it on late Kick 223 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Live if it's if it's well enough lit and so 224 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: literally lit by the way, and figuratively why not. And 225 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: so I'm down there doing that and I am done 226 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: with that, and I'm about to walk to the press 227 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: elevator again, and again there's an army coming at me. 228 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: But this time it's guys dressed in all black. You know. 229 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: It's the kind of guys who talk into the sleeve 230 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: of their jacket because they have an IFB that they're wearing. 231 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: And it's Secret Service. Secret Service again snatches me away 232 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: from an elevator, and this time it's someone a little 233 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: bit more important relatively speaking. It's the President of the 234 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: United States, and he takes the elevator from me. So 235 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: what happened, Jay, is in the span of a week, 236 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: I was cut in line. Let's just call it what 237 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: it is. I was cut in line by the governor 238 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: of Louisiana, and then I was cut in line by 239 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. And after the game, 240 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: no one even gave me so much as a comment 241 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: card that I could file a complaint on the end. 242 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Next up, John John says how much stock will recruits 243 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: take in the results of the twenty twenty season. Will 244 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: these strange circumstances really have any noticeable effect on recruiting? John, 245 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: I am not a big belief with certain very very 246 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: fringe examples. Notwithstanding, I am not a big believer that 247 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: recruits put a whole lot of stock in the season 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: that's happening during what is their senior year in high school. 249 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: And the reason is, I really think what you're selling 250 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: those guys on is you're selling those guys on relationships 251 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: with the coaching staff. So I mean, you can't have 252 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: the entire staff get fired. Obviously, that would be one 253 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: of those outstanding examples. But really what you have is 254 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: you have relationships being built, and then you also have 255 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: the concept of selling them on the future. So if 256 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: I am let's say Florida State and I'm trying to 257 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: rebuild my program down there, If I'm Mike Norvel and 258 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: let's say we play what are they playing ten or 259 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: eleven games? So I mean, let's say they hover around 260 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: five hundred this year. That's not a prediction, it's an example. 261 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: Let's say they hover around five hundred, and you're recruiting me, 262 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: and I've developed a really good relationship with my position coach, 263 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: and I really relate to the head coach. I believe 264 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: in the vision. I mean, am I really going to 265 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: be turned off by the fact that they went five hundred? 266 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: He has every reason to underperform this year, and plus 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: the entire reason I'm going there is because I'm going 268 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: to be the kind of player that's necessary to win 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: that they don't have there right now. So if anything, 270 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: the path the playing time is more immediate, and the 271 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: better the player I am and the worse your record is, 272 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: the more likely I am to be one of the 273 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: answers to your problem. So for that reason, again, that's 274 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: a that's a broad brush answer, I know, and there 275 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: are exceptions to that rule, but I think that's the 276 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: rule this year and every year, maybe this year even 277 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: more so. Next up is Sam, how long will it 278 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: take for the PAC twelve and the Big Ten to 279 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: recover if they choose not to play this fall? Do 280 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: you see any potential future conference realignment from schools in 281 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve and the Big Ten which felt they 282 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: were cheated out of a season. That's a good question. 283 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: I think it'll take the Pac twelve a lot longer 284 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: because I don't think the Pac twelve's going to have 285 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: a season, and I think the Big Ten is if 286 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I had to guess right here late tonight, early tomorrow morning, 287 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: that's where I think things stand. I mean, the PAC twelve, 288 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: they already begun taking pretty drastic cost cutting measures behind 289 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: the scenes, laid off a ton of folks. I think 290 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: the entire digital media department out at the PAC twelve network, 291 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: which was just egregiously placed in San Francisco, could have 292 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: found a place for like a fraction of the rent 293 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake or Fresno, but no, we had to 294 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: park at San Francisco. And so yeah, I think a 295 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of changes coming out there regardless. To be honest 296 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: with you, Sam, I thought a lot of change was 297 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: going to come out there even if they had a 298 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: season this year. They've really really mismanaged a lot of things, 299 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: not the least of which is the PAC twelve network 300 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: and subsequent TV deals that they signed. They got a 301 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: big one, a pivotal renegotiation window, and then negotiation window 302 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: coming up in their next round of TV talks. And 303 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: that's boring, I know, but that's part of the equation 304 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: here the Big Ten. No one's leaving the Big Ten voluntarily. 305 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: That's just not happening. That's a big difference between you 306 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: and I talking at the water cooler at work on Thursday, 307 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: as disgruntled Nebraska fans versus a president or chancellor at Nebraska, 308 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: and dignitaries at Nebraska and people in the administrative side 309 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: of things who understand it really means a lot to 310 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: have this big ten sticker on our helmet. And we 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: remember how badly we wanted to get out of the 312 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: Big twelve, and now we're here, And yeah, I mean, 313 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: we may be upset right now, but by and large, 314 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: any year that doesn't have a pandemic breakout, we're going 315 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: to be cool where we are so now, I don't 316 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: believe anyone's leaving there. But as for the PAC twelve 317 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: in realignment, Sam, for all we know, it could have 318 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: been coming anyway. It could have been coming regardless if 319 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: it was already coming, then this certainly may expedite that process. 320 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: But the thing about that, and we learned it the 321 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: hard way the last time, is you never know until 322 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: it happens. I mean, you really never know. No one 323 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: or very few people are insiders on that whole deal. 324 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of like recruiting the night before signing day. 325 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: You could get so much information that you think is 326 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: credible that could be irrelevant twelve hours later because the 327 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: kick can change his mind. So, as it turns out, 328 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: there was no possible way to have inside information because 329 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: he made his mind up on the state on signing day. 330 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes this stuff is the same way. You could have 331 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: multiple overtures behind the scenes, you could have multiple conferences, 332 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: you could have multiple packages being put together, and you 333 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: got so many moving parts that it's it's like trying 334 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: to nail jello to the wall figuring out how all 335 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: that's going to unfold. So my advice is to grab 336 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: a lawn chair. If it's nice outside, put it outside. 337 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: If it's not, bring it indoors, and just sit back, 338 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: relax and just wait and see what happens, because I'll 339 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: be right there next to you if you have another chair. 340 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: Of course, Scott is next up in Wisconsin. Is Paul 341 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: christ secretly happy he may not have to decide between 342 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: starting Graham Mertz or Jack Comb Jack Doan as we 343 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: call him on this show, Or does he feel it's 344 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity to shed the persecution that Wisconsin can 345 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: be conventional? That was a really interesting way to phrase that, Scott, 346 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, though, so persecution notwithstanding here the persecution of 347 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the Badgers. It sounds like a book someone should have 348 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: already written along time to be honest with you, I 349 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: do not think for a second Paul Crist wants this 350 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: season to be canceled. Paul Crist has got a really 351 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: good team up there, really good team, and so I listen. 352 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't think any coach worth his salt looks at 353 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: a quality competition at quarterback and shies away from it. 354 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: What you'd be scared of is if you had a 355 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: competition and you had to choose the lesser of two evils. 356 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's what they have there. Either. 357 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: One of those guys, whoever he chooses to start, they're 358 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna be capable of competing in the Big ten. I 359 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: mean they're not going to have the roster Ohio State has, certainly, 360 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: but I mean very few do. Outside of that. I mean, 361 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: that's a New Year's Six contending team. So no, I 362 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: couldn't see any scenario where he's upset that he has 363 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: to choose. I can see every scenario where he's upset 364 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't get to choose. Killer B is next up. 365 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: If the conferences break away from the NCAA and coaches 366 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: and teams become more involved, I think the idea of 367 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: a larger playoff would be on the horizon. What are 368 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts? Well, I wholeheartedly agree with this. I don't 369 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: have to endorse it, but I can agree with it, 370 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I'd have to immerse 371 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: myself in that realignment. I'd have to know what that 372 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: structure looks like. It could be that if that's where 373 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: we are five years from now, where the Power five 374 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: is totally broken off, and we got three or four 375 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: superconferences out there and everyone is playing Power five competition 376 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: every week, it could be that even I look at 377 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: things at that point and say, you know what, an 378 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: expanded playoff wouldn't be so bad now, because I think 379 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot more of the sport has balanced itself out. 380 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: I think probably if that were to happen, would have 381 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: a lot more understanding of how strength of schedules should 382 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: be properly interpreted and properly applied. And I can tell you, 383 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: from the scheduling standpoint, you would have a lot more justification. 384 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: And you've already seen this. You've already seen a lot 385 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: of justification in people assuming this is going to happen. 386 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: They assumed that the expansion, or that maybe breaking away 387 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and the expansion of playoff. People already assume that's going 388 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: to happen, to the point that that's why a lot 389 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: of these teams have started to beef up there out 390 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: of conference schedule. That's why all of a sudden, it 391 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: feels like we had around it was this past off season, 392 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: in the past couple of off seasons where every other 393 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: day you look up and someone has scheduled a game 394 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty eight. What well, what do we do. 395 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out who's gonna play who in 396 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: week one of this year. But that's what's happening. A 397 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: lot of folks in athletic departments in major Power five 398 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: outposts in the SEC and elsewhere, they've looked at it 399 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: and they said, Okay, strength of schedule is going to 400 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: matter a whole lot more down the road, and losing 401 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: one game or maybe even two games is not gonna 402 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: kill you down the road. So with that in mind, 403 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: and we understand, as the in home experience for the 404 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: viewer continues to evolve and become better and better, we've 405 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: got to give people a reason to pay this money 406 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: to come to games. And for all those reasons, I 407 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: think that's why you've seen the significant beefing up of 408 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: future out of conference schedules, and if you were to 409 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: have an entire breakaway of the Power five and the 410 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: sent run their own playoff and you know, they do 411 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: their own thing, which I think is probably likely at 412 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, I pretty much agree with you, Killer, 413 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: but I think that's the way that would go. Steven 414 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: is next. Some teams canceling practices last week due to 415 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: apparent positive COVID cases has me a little worried. Should 416 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: we be looking at this like a canary in the 417 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: coal mine that maybe we won't get a whole season 418 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: in or is this more of a good sign, like 419 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: conference is actually having a plan for how to deal 420 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: with this and following protocol. I'm trying to stay positive, 421 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: but twenty twenty has made it so difficult. Stephen here. 422 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: It was my initial concern. My initial concern, as you 423 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: probably heard me say a number of times on a 424 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: number of different platforms, was when the Big ten postponed 425 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: and the PAC twelve postponed, they were off the table. 426 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: Turns out that may not be the case, but they 427 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: were off the table. The ones who remained at the party, 428 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: the other Power three, if you will. The next hurdle 429 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: was when you had not if, But when you had 430 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: some outbreaks and hiccups on rosters and you had these 431 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: huge numbers of positive cases among the general student population, 432 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: how were they going to handle it. Was it going 433 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: to be let's roll with the punches or was it 434 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: going to be at the first sign of twenty four 435 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: to forty eight hours of a terrible news cycle and 436 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: pr wise, are we just going to shut it down? Well, 437 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: I think we've weathered that storm because we've seen from 438 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame to North Carolina Auburn, we've seen major universities, 439 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: major programs have to shut it down for a little bit, 440 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: and there was no freak out. There was concern. Like 441 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: you said that, there was no massive freakout. You can 442 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: tell people are resolved in handling this thing, and you 443 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: can tell they're well equipped to do it. Now, here's 444 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: what you may not know, and here's what I without 445 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: naming the university universities plural, I can tell you for 446 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: a fact that there were places where when they first 447 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: had their kids come back on campus, there were insane 448 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: amounts of positive cases among the roster, the players, and 449 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: they got them on campus. I'm talking about big numbers now, 450 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: and they got them on campus and they put them 451 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: through the protocols that were in place, and those same 452 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: universities are now pumping out numbers like zero per week, 453 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: which is all the testament in the world you need 454 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: to know that is the best environment imaginable for anyone 455 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: to be in. What they're doing on these campuses is 456 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: so far above and beyond the call of duty, if 457 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: you will, to ensure the safest environment possible, that you'd 458 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: probably have to see it to believe it. So yeah, 459 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there were some extreme examples when they first 460 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: got these players back on campus, and even in the 461 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: most extreme examples, they've handled it. They've weathered the storm. 462 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: So Steve and I, if anything, I've been encouraged by 463 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: it because it was inevitable, it was coming. How it 464 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: was handled was the variable, and I've been very comfortable 465 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: with that so far. That's why I've had a massive 466 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: upticking confidence that we're going to get the season off 467 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: the ground and listen, then it becomes a case by 468 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: case and it becomes a lit's play as it goes, 469 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: and let's just take it as it comes to a 470 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: sort of deal during the season. But so far, I 471 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: think you got to like where we're at given the 472 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: circumstances back to the Bricks podcast, I will gladly give 473 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: you a shout out as I just did the Back 474 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: to the Bricks podcast. If you are submitting quality questions, 475 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: and I thought this was a quality question. What is 476 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: Louisville's ceiling in the ACC this year? My answer is 477 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: ACC title game contention is their absolute ceiling. Now, this 478 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: would take over achievement on a number of levels. Obviously, 479 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: it would take over achievement on the offensive line, which 480 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: has been terrible for a number of years there, So 481 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: I think number one if they are a contender late 482 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: in the season for the ACC championship spot. Now I'm 483 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: not saying title or probably not beating Clemson in the 484 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: title game if they get there, but maybe that number 485 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: two spot in that game. If the offensive line massively overachieves, 486 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: if run defense takes it up a couple of notches, 487 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: probably more like three or four, so several notches, then 488 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: you probably put yourself into position because at that point 489 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: you solidified both lines of scrimmage far beyond what I 490 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: think many would expect given recent results. And I think 491 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: the biggest game to circle is an early season test 492 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: at home against Miami. I don't think a lot of 493 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: people are talking about that game. Even in the ACC. 494 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people have been talking 495 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: about that game. And that's a key game because I 496 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of folks for Miami chalk that up 497 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: as a win. It's you know, they're careful about it. 498 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: They're not mocking Louisville, but they're counting on winning that game. 499 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: I think the general public counts on Miami winning that game. 500 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: So you pull the upset there and then you're off 501 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: to the races because at that point, if you beat Miami, 502 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: then obviously you were good enough to beat Miami. And 503 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: if you were good enough to do that, then this 504 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: side of Clemson, I mean, where is the insurmountable obstacle 505 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: in front of you? You could probably compete with anyone 506 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: at that point. Vine Uploader is next. When I look 507 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: at the twenty four to seventeen talent ratings Tennessee and 508 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: Florida have, they're very close. Why is it that Florida 509 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: is thought of so much more more highly than Tennessee. 510 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: I am very biasedly curious why the expectation levels are 511 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: so different? And yes, I made that word up, beautifully done. 512 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: There biasedly. It's okay. If you are biasedly submitting a question, 513 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I expect no less from you, guys. This is a 514 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: very good question. I believe in what he's saying. The 515 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: spirit of what he's saying here. This is to say 516 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: nothing about Florida. I'm talking about Tennessee. Tennessee's roster is 517 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: not nearly as inferior anymore as a lot of people 518 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: out there think it is. Now some of you just 519 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: heard me say something I didn't say. What you probably 520 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: heard me say that didn't come out of my mouth, 521 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: is they're right there with Georgia. They're right there with Florida. 522 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that yet. Now they're recruiting well, right now, 523 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: they're recruiting as well as they have under Jeremy Pruittz 524 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: so far. Obviously limited sample size, but that's not a 525 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: bad roster, and they, I think, are doing a quality 526 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: job of developing, especially the offensive line. And that's been 527 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: a miracle transformation over the last couple of years to 528 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: be what they are now, to the point where they 529 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: haven't even gotten cave May is ruled eligible, which would 530 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 1: have been beyond a make or break eligibility issue two 531 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: years ago. For Tennessee on the offensive line, and now 532 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: it's one of those Well, if we have him, hey 533 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: maybe we have the best offensive line in the SEC. 534 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: If we don't, we still got one of the two 535 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: or three best. I mean, that's a really good transformational 536 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: job of developing and recruiting and coaching on the offensive line. 537 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: But if Tennessee had a bonafide stud at quarterback, people 538 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: would take him more seriously this year. I'm not calling 539 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask a bonafide stud. I am telling you people 540 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: believe in Kyle Trask. It starts in terms of public 541 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: perception at the quarterback spot. I'm telling you right now, 542 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: that's where it starts. So you're asking me, why is 543 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: the perception different. I'm telling you that the quarterback position 544 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: at Florida people believe him. The quarterback position at Tennessee 545 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: is a question mark. And I'm not so sure that 546 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: I disagree with either of those assessments, but I do 547 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: think all so that Tennessee's roster probably is built to 548 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: where the perception, since that's the word that's in play 549 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: right now, is that some of the big boys are 550 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: able to show up with their C to C plus 551 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: game and just out roster Tennessee. I don't think that's 552 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: the case. I don't think you have to be playing 553 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: at an A plus level if you're Alabama to beat Tennessee. 554 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: But I don't think the C plus level is going 555 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: to get it done. That's kind of what happened last year. Now, 556 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: last year you had Tonga Bailoa out or I think 557 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: that's the game he got hurt in, actually, and you know, 558 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Alabama's kind of sloppy and Tennessee turned it over down 559 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: on like the one inch line. And I was at 560 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: that game was one where they debuted the big light 561 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: show that I mocked and then was amazed by that 562 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: kind of performance. If it happens again this year, for example, 563 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: that's the kind of game where Tennessee could pull off 564 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: a stunner. It could be against Alabama, could be against Georgia. 565 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: My point is, could be against Florida at the end 566 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: of the year. I agree with you. The GAP's not 567 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: nearly as big as the perception would lead you to 568 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: believe it is. All right, let's take a break right 569 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: quick when we come back. I really got a good one, 570 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: and it has to do with Jamie Newman. That was 571 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: the other really big news that broke on what was 572 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: it Wednesday? Yes, and you talk about overturning things in 573 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: the SEC East. Well, with Georgia's presumed starting quarterback out, 574 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: what does that do there? We'll talk about it right 575 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: after this, all right, So we come back here and 576 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: Michael says, how does the Jamie Newman opt out change 577 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Florida's chances not only in the SEC East but nationally 578 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: maybe for the playoff. I assume most of you know 579 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: this by now, but I never take it for granted 580 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: because a lot of you have lives and you can't 581 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: just stay glued to the internet all day. Jamie Newman 582 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: a preseason favorite to start at quarterback at Georgia. He 583 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: was the transfer from Wake Forest. He opted out yesterday, 584 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: yesterday being Wednesday, he opted out, got a couple of 585 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: weeks in the camp, and then opted out. This sent 586 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: shockwaves through the college football world yesterday and especially at Georgia. 587 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: And so he put out a statement where he said 588 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: it's because of concerns related to COVID, I'm gonna opt 589 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: out and prepare for the draft. And more power to him. 590 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to imagine being in that 591 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Georgia locker room, you know, being fully bought in as 592 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: a player and not being pretty pissed off about that. 593 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not in the Georgia locker room, so I'm 594 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna sit here and just answer your question. And the 595 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: question is I think it could change things over there. 596 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: I think it very well could. Now they believe in JT. Daniels. 597 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have taken him if they didn't. And I'm 598 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: not even going to get into the speculation of, well, 599 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: did they take his transfer because something was amiss there 600 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: with Jamie Newman. No, I think they took his transfer 601 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: because you're trying to get as many good players on 602 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: your roster as you possibly can. Because Kirby Smart came 603 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: from Alabama, where they have stacked talent on top of 604 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: talent for years now, and depth has prevailed and they've 605 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: won multiple national championships because of it. So you stacked 606 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: that quarterback room. It's no different than any other room. 607 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: You stacked that room as packed with talent as you can, 608 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: and then you let the chips fall where they may. Well, 609 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: the chips just fell them opted out. And so now 610 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: for all the folks who thought it was controversial that 611 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart took JT. Daniels. A few months ago, we 612 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: had some of them that emailed me for the Late 613 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Kick Live episode we did after they took that transfer, 614 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: and they said, well, this could upset the quarterback room. Well, 615 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: what does this say to Jamie Newman? Do you care? Now? 616 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Do you really care? Because what if you hadn't taken 617 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: him and Newman still opted out? You know, because he 618 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: says he opted out because of COVID, not because of competition. 619 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: So let's take him at his word. He opts out. 620 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: Now who you've fallen back on Carson Beck. He's been 621 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: on campus five minutes, Dwan Mathis hadn't taken meaningful snaps 622 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: for you. I know, folks love him up there. I 623 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: do too. It's a great story. I mean he had 624 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: brain surgery if you guys are unaware, and so it's 625 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: a great story. But great stories don't win at quarterback 626 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: in major college football. What are we looking at here, 627 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Statsan Bennett that you're not talking about winning seven games 628 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: this year. You're talking about trying to win a national championship. 629 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: So now JT. Daniels is the guy. Here's what I 630 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: worry about. It's obvious. I don't think there's anything behind 631 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: the scenes to worry about. Here it's obvious, and the 632 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: worry is you got a new offense, you got a 633 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, you lost spring. Can you imagine how 634 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: precious the last two weeks have been in terms of 635 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: installing an offense. And maybe whereas you would have been 636 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: able to divvy up more reps if you had all 637 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: spring and then summer workouts and then fall to go through, 638 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: that's not the case. So those first team repetitions have 639 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: never been more valuable at the quarterback position than they 640 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: are this year. And a guy walked in via transfer 641 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: and took precious first team reps that you'll never be 642 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: able to get back, and now he's out, and that 643 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: would be my concern because George's schedule is not backloaded, 644 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: it's front loaded. And so week two, here comes Auburn, 645 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: Week three, you got Tennessee, Week four, you're going to Alabama, 646 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: and then week five, after a back to back to 647 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: back emotional and physical stretch, you're playing Kentucky. So the 648 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: SEC East, everyone assumes it's going to be decided in 649 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Jacksonville come October. I could be decided in weeks two, three, 650 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: and four one way or the other. So that would 651 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: be my concern. And yes, Michael and several other people 652 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: submitted a version of that question. Yes, I believe it's 653 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: a very big deal over there. Two things can be true. 654 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: You can be a Georgia fan and you can have 655 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: confidence in JT. Daniels and also admit this is a 656 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: big blow. Like I mean, let's be reasonable, let's be 657 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: honest with each other here. David is next up. I 658 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: was wondering if you had any thoughts or opinions specifically 659 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: on the polarizing opinions of bo Nix's development. This is 660 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: the sophomore quarterback at Auburn. I love bo Nicks. I 661 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: watched him in high school and an incredible athlete, phenomenal athlete, 662 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: one of the best high school quarterbacks I've watched. Now, 663 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't scout them quite like some of our guys 664 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: do here at twenty four to seven Sports, but I've 665 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: seen my fair share of high school quarterbacks. Bo Nix 666 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: walked into a place that is not famous for developing quarterbacks. 667 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Let's just call it what it is at Auburn. When 668 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: they've been their best under Gus Malzan, it's been because 669 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: they went the transfer route route. Whatever the case may 670 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: be they have failed to recruit a kid out of 671 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: high school and develop him into being an all SEC 672 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: caliber quarterback. That hasn't happened. Now, Chad Morris has walked 673 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: in the door over there, and he's very good at 674 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: doing just that. But notice what I said, He just 675 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: walked in the door. So to answer your question there, David, 676 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: the polarization of this comes in the fact that people 677 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: who believe in bo Nicks know that he's got an 678 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: incredible package of talent. The detractors would say, doesn't matter 679 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: how talented he is, he's not in a place where 680 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: we've ever watched anyone develop a quarterback and do anything. 681 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: Gus Malzon's offensive system is is passing concepts. This route 682 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: tree which is virtually non existent or has no more 683 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: than one or two branches on it, I mean intermediate routes. 684 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about Malzon's passing game, and it 685 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: may not be his offense anymore. We'll see what he does. 686 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: But I was at SEC media days last year, and 687 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: to his credit, he was honest with me when I 688 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: asked the question and he answered it. I said, coch 689 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: in your offense, how much do you value the intermediate 690 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: passing game, and he said, we are going to run 691 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: the ball, run the ball, and we're going to play 692 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: action over the top. That's our offense. Well, here's the problem. 693 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: Not that it was some big state secret before, but 694 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: every SEC defensive coordinator has known that for a long time. 695 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's been the running joke down here when 696 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: people are coaching defensive backs during game week for Auburn, 697 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: no one bites on double moves, no one bites on 698 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: seven to ten yard end routes. They know, Man, you're 699 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: either stalk blocking me out here, you're going over the top, 700 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: or you're a decoy, and I don't really have to 701 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: worry about you. And I can go pursue that. Everybody 702 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: knows that. And so if you're a quarterback, think about 703 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: how that affects you. You got world class defensive backs 704 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: down here. If you're taking out sixty percent of what 705 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: they normally have to worry about during a typical game 706 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: with a more multifunctioning offense, then yeah, that affects the quarterback. 707 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: You better believe it does. And so that's where the 708 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: polarization I think comes from. David. Now, all this could 709 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: be overturned in time. I don't know if a week 710 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: one fix, but in time, if this is truly Chad 711 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Morris's offense and Gus Malson is just turning into a 712 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: CEO that choose gum at a very rapid rate, well 713 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: then we could see a night and day difference here. 714 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: The reason that I speak so hesitantly when I'm talking 715 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: about this is I don't think Gus Malzon's ever doing that. 716 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: So dot dot dot ellipses. I think that's what that's called. 717 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: Dot dot dot. That's where I am on bo Nix 718 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: and his performance, his production. Let's say that not the player, 719 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: not the talent. I'm totally sold on that. Robbie is 720 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: next up. As you're well aware of, you often explain 721 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: aspects of college football using metaphors, and for fun, do 722 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: you have a favorite metaphor that you can remember using. 723 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: So I got this question Tuesday, I want to say, 724 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: or maybe Monday, and I've thought about this for two 725 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: days and I came up with the best one I've 726 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: ever gotten, Robbie. So, it was about scouting and I 727 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: was talking to a coach I think it was a 728 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in the SEC at the time, and I 729 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: was talking about scouting and how important that is, obviously, 730 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: And you know that's something you don't ever get to 731 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: see coaches. Do you see them coach? You even follow 732 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: them in the recruiting process, but you rarely get to 733 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: see them. Scout just sit there and grind for a 734 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: thirteen hour day watching film from high school. And so 735 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: I asked about scouting and what's the most important thing 736 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: and what are the critical factors you look for? And 737 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: he said, you know what I mean. I could break 738 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: down the characteristics and the physical traits that we look 739 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 1: for in a defensive back or a linebacker, but really, 740 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: here's the most important thing. You got to know the 741 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: difference between a marshmallow, a jelly bean, and a rock 742 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: when you're scouting players. And so I said, all right, 743 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: I get it, and I walked away. No, obviously I didn't. 744 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: I said huh, just like you probably just said huh. 745 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, marshmallow, jelly bean, and rock. And 746 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: he said, anyone can spot a marshmallow. It's easy to 747 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: spot a soft player. Okay, it doesn't take a whole 748 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 1: lot of skill to know that a player's soft. Likewise, 749 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: most people out there, if they know what they're looking at, 750 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: they can spot a rock. I mean they could spot 751 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: on Alpha an ultra competitor got every box checked. Character 752 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: is a check mark, Physical traits are a check mark, 753 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: competitive edge check mark. Everyone can spot a rock. You 754 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: make a living, and the difference between making a living 755 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: and going broke in this business, as he said, is 756 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: being able to spot the jelly beans. Those are the 757 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: ones who look hard on the outside, but they're a 758 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: marshmallow on the inside. And when he said that to me, 759 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: I think my mouth hung open and I breathed through 760 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: my mouth for a second, and it was just because 761 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: it made so much sense. Think about that, Think about 762 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: how much in between there is out there. You and 763 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: I turn on a game. We could spot the soft player, 764 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: We could spot the hard player. The marshmallows and the rocks. 765 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: They're obvious. You got quite a few jelly beans out there. 766 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now, even as good 767 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: as I think twenty four to seven Sports is, I 768 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: think we're the best by ten miles in the recruiting industry, 769 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: maybe even one hundred miles. But inevitably, any given year 770 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: you scroll through our top two four seven player ratings, 771 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: for example, there are some jelly beans in there, and 772 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: you just don't know. I mean, we got that, Like 773 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: I said, the best in the world doing it here. 774 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: But even the best in the world, even the best coaches, 775 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: are not going to bat a thousand on this stuff. 776 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna occasionally recruit some jelly beans, and the problem 777 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: is you find out they don't fool you once you're 778 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: on campus and they're in the game and the heat 779 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: a battle for you. Most of the time they never 780 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: make it on the field, but sometimes they do. They're 781 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: gonna let you down eventually. You would much rather spot 782 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: them when they're a senior in high school than have 783 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: them on the field and it's a third and three 784 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: and it's tied up seventeen all in the fourth quarter, 785 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: and it's up to them to make the play. That's 786 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: when you find out what jelly beans are and what 787 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: your rocks are out there. So that was a great metaphor, 788 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't come up with it. I wish I did, 789 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: But that was one a coach gave me a long 790 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: time ago. That has always stuck with me. Oh FYI, 791 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: it works in life too. It works in life. You 792 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: got some softies and you got some pennable folks in 793 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: your life, but you got so many jelly beans out there. 794 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: That's why some of these folks with these big social circles, 795 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: and they got fifteen friends they can hang out with 796 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: every Friday. Well, okay, you got a flat tire. It's 797 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: pouring rain on the side of I sixty five. How 798 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: many of them are coming to help you? Now? The 799 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: jelly beans are at home. The jelly beans aren't responding 800 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: to your text. So yeah, it works on football fields 801 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: and it works in life. Sean is next up, how 802 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: do you think the season will actually unfold? What do 803 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: you think would happen if a major team like Alabama 804 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: got hit hard with as Sean calls it, the plague 805 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: this season? Do you think that teams would be more 806 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: likely to cancel a game as opposed to play with 807 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: a decimated roster. It's a good question, Sean, and the 808 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: answer is you can't be leaving it up to interpretation. 809 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: So there has to be guidance. There have to be 810 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: certain thresholds. There have to be, you know, certain protocols. 811 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: In other words, instead of just going on field, weaked week, 812 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: whoa man, My running back room's kind of depleted. I'd 813 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: rather us not play this week. You gotta have guidance 814 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: from the office. I think the Big Twelve did that 815 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: this week, and all the conferences will do that. So Sean, 816 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: your answer will not come from me. Your answer is 817 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: going to come from a league office, and you'll know 818 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: exactly how that's going to be handled if it happens. 819 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say if and when because I 820 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: hope the win is false, but if it happens, we 821 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: will know, all right. Next up is Kevin. I wanted 822 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: to get your take on how you foresee rankings being 823 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: quantified this year, especially given all the start dates for 824 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: each conference being different. Let's say Ohio State and the 825 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: Big Ten played, but they started really late, how would 826 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: they be ranked versus an ACC or an SEC team, 827 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: And how would the College Football Playoff occur? Would they 828 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: have to move it to February. So here's what Kevin 829 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: is asking. This is a really good question. Let's say 830 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: the Big Ten were to start Thanksgiving week, and so 831 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: that's about the time that the ACC and the Big 832 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: Twelve and the SEC are wrapping things up. They're getting 833 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: ready for conference championship games a couple of weeks later. 834 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: I think the rankings would kind of exist in two 835 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: different universes, really, Kevin, because you are not pushing that 836 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: playoff to February. If you're starting in late November, you 837 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: are not participating in that year's college football season. Because 838 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: when I define a season, I define people who are 839 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: participating simultaneously in something that is going to be culminated 840 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: in a national champion being crowned. And if you're starting 841 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: in late November, you are not actively participating in the 842 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: race for that national championship. You're not going to be 843 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: involved in that process. You're just playing a season to 844 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: play a season. Maybe you guys figure out how to 845 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: do a second Rose Bowl if it's the Pac twelve 846 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: and the Big Ten. If it's just the Big Ten solo, 847 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: I have no clue how that works. But as for rankings, 848 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: if you had them starting in late November and everyone 849 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: else is already in week eleven or week twelve, it 850 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: may just be for fun that people would put in 851 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: their own personal rankings. Ohio State number two, as they're 852 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: one to zero on the season and Alabama's eight and 853 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: one going into the last week of the season. I 854 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: don't know how they do that, and I wouldn't really 855 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: care all that much. The point is you better get 856 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: this thing started early to mid October by the latest, 857 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: or you're probably not going to be involved in the 858 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: college football playoff selection process. All right, here's what I 859 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: wanted to wrap up with. So many of you have 860 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: submitted questions, and because we have the Ohio State or 861 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: not the Ohio State really the Big ten story kind 862 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: of unfolding, and the Jamie Newman story unfolding, I wanted 863 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: to dedicate a little bit more time on this particular 864 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: podcast to those two things. If you're listening on Thursday 865 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: Late Kick Live tonight Thursday night, we will go even 866 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: more in depth on that. I mean, it's college football season, man, 867 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: so stuff is going to be breaking. That's why we 868 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: do three Late Kick Lives per week. That's why I 869 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: do two more of these extra podcasts per week. There 870 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: will never be a shortage of content. But my point 871 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: is I could not get to all of your submissions 872 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: in both of these extra podcasts this week. I couldn't 873 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: get to all of them. Do not be discouraged. Keep 874 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: submitting those questions because in a normal format, I'll get 875 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: to every single one of them. And if I can't 876 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: get to them over the span of two shows, then 877 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: I need to speed up, and I need to not 878 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: talk so much on one story or question, and I 879 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: need to get a move on. So really, thank you 880 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: guys so much. Five star reviews again. Want to get 881 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 1: to a thousand, that's our goal. We want one thousand 882 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: five star reviews. That's the next benchmark. When we do that, 883 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. It'll be impressive. I 884 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: just don't know what it's gonna be. But get us 885 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: there and subscribe already if you haven't to the twenty 886 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: four to seven Sports YouTube channel. It is free of 887 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: charge and we have got so much coming at you. 888 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for listening. I'm Josh Pape. 889 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: This is the Late Kick Extra podcast. God bless