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Filling in from the Mercedes 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Man case, it's Doug Gottlieb and Jason McIntyre. Good morning, 22 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: one up. I hope you're great alongside the one and 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: only Jay mc Jason McIntyre, I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: that Ann Patrick show. As we creep closer and closer, 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: closer and closer to two twenty one, right, like the 26 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: year that that can't end fast enough. Now we're like 27 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: that kind of gone fast there. Morning t Jason. How 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: are you? I'm excellent, dog, just fine. It's a beautiful morning. 29 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: The year is almost over. I hope you had a 30 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: great holiday, man, Mine was spectacular. Spectacular. Huh yeah, you 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: gotta gate listen, you gotta get excited for the holidays, right, 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean the way this year has gone. Fortunately, we've 33 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of football. I know you love college hoops. 34 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: I love Nbaum. Yeah, just having fun. But it doesn't 35 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: love the NBA. Well, there's a lot out there. It 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: doesn't like college basketball. It doesn't like we've had this 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: run of football. All right, let's let's let's get right 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: after it to Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire is the podcast. 39 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: You can download it every morning. It's basically the hottest 40 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: of hot stuff. 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This 45 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: is the dam Patrick Show, brought to you by Mercedes 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Benz from the Mercedes Benz man Cave Mercedes AMG Driving Performance. 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Let me um, Let's start with last night, So the 48 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Bills vanquished the Patriots, which yesterday LaVar Arrington was was 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: with us, and I said, like, look, it's one thing 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: to go and win the division. It's another thing to um. 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Do you play Mortal Kombat when you play video games, 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: to kill furnish him right, finish him. You gotta like 53 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: tear reached into the chest of the Patriots, tear out 54 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: their heart right and finishing You need a finishing move. 55 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: And that was pretty impressive. After a whole home kind 56 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: of first half, the Bills exercise their dominance and completely 57 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: dominated the Patriots. But I think what's more interesting to 58 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: me is this insistence and and and LaVar was what 59 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: was insisting yesterday that the Cam Newton will find another 60 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: home next year. And now, look, I do think there 61 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: are parts two to UH to Cam Newton and what 62 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: he's done this season where he could stay in the 63 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: league for a long time as a backup. But bro, 64 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: he's just he's just done. He just he I cannot 65 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: accurately throw a football well enough. And we can, we 66 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: can make all the excuses and even explanations we want 67 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: for UH for for for Cam Newton's performance. The teammates 68 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: aren't good enough. He hasn't had enough time. You know, 69 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: he's getting up early in the morning and not getting 70 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: his coffee for like four hours, which just seems like 71 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: an interminable amount of time. I don't know how he 72 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: does that. Whatever it is, um it ain't it ain't 73 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: good enough. But yeah, good run, Doug Right. He was 74 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: the MVP of the season. I don't know, almost a 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: decade ago. He went to a Super blot. It was 76 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: not a decade ago, five years ago, five that recently, okay, 77 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: five years ago Cam was the the MVP of the league. 78 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: They went fifteen and one, lost the Super Bowl. He 79 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: had a good run. It's over, you know. The guy 80 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: turns thirty two in May. Nothing in Cam Newton's DNA says, 81 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: I want to be a backup, Yes, sign me up. 82 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: He's just too big of a personality. He walks. He 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: walked under that Patriots team, and you could, you know, 84 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: you could read the clippings, every quote from everybody. Man Cam, 85 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: he's larger than life. He's the man. This guy you know, 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: made the dab a thing, he wore outlandish hats. He's 87 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: a big personality and you can't have that be your 88 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: backup in the NFL locker room. I don't see him 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: in the league going forward. I think maybe, you know, 90 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: if he wants to transition into selling clothes or you know, 91 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: being like a celebrity on social media, he could certainly 92 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: do that. But his days as an NFL quarterback are 93 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: Overdug It's done. He was asked last night whether his 94 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: account for the ESPN broadcast, claiming he got up at 95 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: four to twenty, leaves house for seven minutes, and doesn't 96 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: go to bed till eleven thirty, he reflects his normal 97 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: schedule quote, That's been my schedule for ninety percent of 98 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: the time I've been here, so you can kind of 99 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: understand my frustration I do have when I don't have 100 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: the outcome because I'm sacrificing so much. You're talking to 101 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: a personal I ain't seen his kids in three months. Obviously, 102 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: the contract is what it is. Submitting myself to the 103 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: team is something I've been doing since day one. Being accessible. Yeah, 104 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: it's frustrating. It makes you angry. It makes you angry 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: knowing that to be a trusted teammate you have to 106 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: submit to authority and submit to the coaches or what 107 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: they're asking you to do. I feel like I've done that. 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm not in a play. I'm not in the place 109 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: of blame. I'm more or less venting right now because, yeah, 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: I've sacrificed so much this year. I mean, it hurts 111 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: when you have an outing that you have tonight. You 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: just go home, start over the another week. Yeah, what 113 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: does he mean by tonight, Doug Listen, Cam Newton is 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: a really nice guy in the community. Everything he's done 115 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: in Carolina. When he was there, he was good for 116 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: like a handful of games to start the season, and 117 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: then the wheels fell off. I don't know if you 118 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: want to blame COVID for part of his struggles. Oh, 119 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: he can't throw well, he could get seattle in the 120 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: second three hundred thirty five yards passing. This problem, this 121 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: is the problem. Okay, that was before they traded for 122 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. Obviously it was a mess. They had no 123 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: pass rush before they traded for Carlos Dunlap, and they 124 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: identified he had a good game. He did, and everybody 125 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: was like, if you remember, everybody was lighting up that 126 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks defense at that time, and it was early in 127 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: the year where we had no preseason, no tape, didn't 128 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, and Josh mc dannels did a 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: lot with a little but like, look, he it's it's 130 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: painfully a guy throws for thirty four yards last night. 131 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: He's just not This is this is the the the 132 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick would still be in the league if he 133 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: was a better thrower of the football. But he wasn't. 134 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: He just wasn't. All these people in denial about it, 135 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: he just wasn't. If he's I mean, uh, Dwayne Haskins 136 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten cut yesterday if he was good, good 137 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: at his job. He wasn't good at his job. Johnny Manzel, 138 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: with all his nonsense, would be back in the league 139 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: if he was good at his job. He's not good 140 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: at his job. Okay, somebody. These guys are just not 141 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: that good. And that's really kind of what comes down to. 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: There are thirty two teams. There's about sixteen to eighteen 143 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: or guys are really are great, Okay, then there's some 144 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: young guys that are developing. There's some other guys that 145 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: are there because of injury. That's really how this league works. 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: And it's funny. You know, I think you and Iran 147 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: together in the spring and there was the the Chargers 148 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: have to not necessarily for me, but the Chargers have 149 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: to have to. Why aren't they engaged with Cam Newton, 150 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Like because he had two shoulder surgeries and when they 151 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: evaluated the tape, much like other teams in the league, 152 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, like I can't throw a football right anymore. 153 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: And they didn't have the ability to evaluate him in person, 154 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: like the warning signs were out there. Look, do you 155 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: know he's starting for the Washington football team this week? Yeah? 156 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Who was conducting his ODU online classes about a month ago. Yeah, 157 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: trying to wrap up math and nature and some other 158 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: really nerdy classes. Taylor Heineke. Taylor Heinekey, do you know 159 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: where he last played in the NFL? I believe it 160 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: was in Carolina with Ron Rivera and that's where he 161 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: got the call, Hey man, you know our system, come 162 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: on down, correct? Okay, who did the who did the 163 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: Washington football team trade for this offseason to come and 164 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: and know the system with Dwayne Haskins an Rivera guy? 165 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen? Right, so he brings over his entire coaching staff. 166 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: He brings over two quarterbacks. Okay, brings over two quarters 167 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: traded for Kyle Allen, Like he didn't even have to 168 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: trade for for Cam newtony if he didn't want it. 169 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Trades for Kyle Allen brings over his whole coaching staff, 170 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: has complete control the football operations. And he doesn't reach 171 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: out for Cam Newton. What does that tell you? He 172 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: knows it means he can't play anymore. That's all. Well, 173 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: I think we all have this fight, we all have 174 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: this finite amount of time. Well, we can do it. 175 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: And when people say you can't throw, that doesn't mean 176 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: you can't actually throw a football, Like this is the 177 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: mistake that people made. And when you talk about like 178 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, like, well Tom Brady said he can't throw, 179 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: look at him throw against Detroit, Like yeah, the team 180 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: they quit on him. And if you give a guy, 181 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, eleven on air in a dome with all 182 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: that talent and time to throw, yeah, Tom Brady's still 183 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: pretty Also at the same time, Doug Kyle Allen got 184 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: the call. Hey man, this is your role. You're gonna 185 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: hold the clipboard. You're probably gonna be inactive some weeks. 186 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: That's the that's the game. Okay, deal, I'm on board. 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke. You know you might not be active. We 188 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: may use you. I don't know. You'll be a distant backup. 189 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: We'll see. But that's the deal. Okay. You can't call 190 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: Cam Newton and say, hey, we're looking for somebody to 191 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: hold a clipboard and be second, second string, maybe inactive. 192 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: It's just not gonna work with Cam Newton. I don't 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: hate Belichick for taking a chance on a by low guy. 194 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: That's what he's done throughout his time in New England. Hey, 195 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: Ocho Sinko, you want to can we give this a shot? Uh? 196 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, come on down. You know he tries and 197 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: tries with all these guys buying cheap you know markets. 198 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: You're a big stock market guy, Doug buy low, sell high. 199 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: He bought Cam Newton Lowe at the nader of his career. 200 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: How about that an sat vocabulary you're nine minutes into 201 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: I know is STARp Yes, Kansas, um, I don't hate 202 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: the move and listen, Bill found out Cam Newton shot Okay, 203 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: we move on. Now It's on to Plan B and 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one offseason. And my guess is they'll 205 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: wait to see what happens with Jimmy g in San Francisco, 206 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: if Kyle Shanahan moves on, or I would assume the 207 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: backup option has to be Marcus Mariota right in Vegas, 208 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: who is still under thirty um Ken throw football hasn't 209 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: had the surgeries Cam had. I think Mariota actually had 210 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of injuries. There's the backup market 211 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: is really int the the the there's Jamis, there's Ariota. 212 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Andrew Dalton, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz 213 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: is not given the financial constraints. I don't think he's 214 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: in the same boat as the other guys. Do you 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: think is elsewhere next year? I don't know. I mean, 216 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: like you know, the reality of it is he shouldn't be. 217 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: The reality is they need to fix him. The reality 218 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: is Jalen Hurts You saw his ceiling right there in Dallas. Yeah, right, 219 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: He's just not There's a reason that that tongue of 220 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Ioloa beat him out. There's a reason that if you 221 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: watched Oklahoma play last year, by about mid season, they 222 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of scraped some of the extra stuff they do 223 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: and they're just like, look, take a look. If you 224 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: don't like it, run it. And he started running it, 225 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: uh to to. It was effective in college, it's not 226 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: going to be effective long term in the pros. He's 227 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: just not that guy. Um, but I think there's been 228 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: some some substantial damage done in that locker room. Like, look, 229 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: one of the things you brought up, which is brilliant, 230 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: and it's the really hard thing, is the power of 231 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: television and knowing who these guys are, right, Like, I 232 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons Jalen Hurtz has done so 233 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: well in the locker room one, he's got a really good, easy, 234 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: motivational personality, right, he just does. But also, like look, 235 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: his whole life and career over the last five years 236 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 1: has played out on national TV in front of us, 237 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: starting as a freshman getting pulled in the National Championship game, 238 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: or yeah, getting pulled the National Championship game, then going 239 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma and kind of reinvigorating his career. All those 240 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: guys know him, whereas Carson Wentz, No he knewho he was. 241 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: And he didn't play in the super Bowl. He didn't play, 242 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the playoffs. The only thing we know 243 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: of Carson Wentz. If you're a young Jalen Reagor, for example, 244 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: is manny balled out last year with no wide receivers 245 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys in a must win game. Right with 246 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the same with Cam Newton. Like I think part of 247 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: the Cam Newton thing is and I saw so many 248 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: analysts after analysts, really smart football guy him fall for it, like, oh, 249 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Patriots got Cam Newton, they're gonna win the division. Like, no, 250 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: they had eight guys opt out Cam Newton. No one 251 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: knows if he can throw a football. He hadn't stayed 252 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: healthy for an entire year. That's probably the biggest win 253 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: this year. But he hadn't been winning in Carolina. He's 254 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: not all a sudden gonna sprinkle some magic Pixie Duskin 255 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: and win with a bad team in New England. When 256 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: when the Dolphins are more talented and Buffalo is clearly 257 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: more talented. But but what happens is he walks into 258 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: a locker room and guys grew up watching. I mean 259 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: there's literally on the young Patriots. All of those guys 260 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: were in middle school and probably their first foray into 261 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: watching college football was Cam Newton at Auburn. He's just 262 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: running over dude. In a word, He's cool though, That's 263 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: what Cam. Yes, he's cool, Yes, yes, And it's really 264 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: hard to convince somebody that Jared Stidham, you know, who 265 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: went to Baylor and left and Auburn and finished up 266 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: and was a backup like that, he's cool, but you 267 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: know you could only do that by leading teams on 268 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: touchdown drives and having a little swag after games or whatever. 269 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, yeah, Cam, 270 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm with you, it's hard to make him a backup. 271 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: And the only thing that I would the only mistake 272 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: that I feel like he's made off the football field 273 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: this year is what he's doing now, where he's kind 274 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: of he's saying like, hey, I've done all the right things, 275 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: why am I still getting pulled? Which is what it 276 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: feels like. Yeah, he's I think he's a little bit 277 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: of denial, right, But Doug, and this brings up a 278 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: great point about Carson Wentz. So I do this gambling 279 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: show Mondays with Charissa Thompson and Colin Cowherd, and as 280 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz started to melt down, I mentioned this to them. 281 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know, how you handle adversity says a 282 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: lot about you. And Carson Wentz had never felt adversity 283 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: at North Dakota State, right, He didn't feel adversity is 284 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: rookie year in Philly or the year he got injured 285 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: when he was like the MVP. And now he's just 286 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: getting a little hint of adversity with you. Hey man, 287 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: you stick, we gotta break Jalen Hurtson and he is 288 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: acting like such a childish baby with whether it's him 289 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: or his agent feeding this stuff that hey man, I 290 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: don't want to be a backup around here. Like, how 291 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: you handle adversity says a lot. And I thought Cam 292 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: did a pretty good job. What you're doing is completely unfair. 293 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: How is it unfair that everything you've just done is 294 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: unfair to who? Cam or Carson Carson Wentz, Oh my goodness, Okay, 295 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: When first of all, like let's go through a bunch 296 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: of things. You know, he didn't go through adversity was 297 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: in North Dakoas State. Yeah none. When was the media 298 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: getting on his case? When was he a talking point 299 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: on TV and radio? Twenty five? That's adversity. Nobody knew 300 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: who he was. Again, but you don't in your bubble 301 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: of living in Los Angeles. Okay. First of all, North 302 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Dakoas State, super successful one program. Okay, I think they 303 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: won the lost one game and won the Natty with him. 304 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: There's no adversity there, Doug, There's there's none. Okay, But 305 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: you don't Donny, You don't know what you're saying is 306 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: there was no criticism for the media. That doesn't mean 307 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: there's no adversity. You don't think it's adversity when you 308 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: are leading a team to the best record in the 309 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: NFC and some other dude comes in and by the way, 310 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: like if we really told the Nick Foles story, he 311 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: played terrible the first couple of a couple of games. 312 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: He played two good games. He was bat in that 313 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: first playoff game against Atlanta. Yes they should lost to 314 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Leo Jones, but but that was out of his control. 315 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: It's not like Carson Wentz could say hey, I'm coming 316 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: back in like he was done. He was out for 317 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: the Seacon. That is, by by definition, adversity. You tear 318 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: your ACL in your second year in the National Football League, 319 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: that is in fact adversity. Right, Like, it may not 320 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: be adversity to you because you see him getting paid 321 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: and still be in the starting quarterback. Then he rushes 322 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: back because Nick Foles is terrible again and he's playing. 323 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: When your first year back off a cl Brady wasn't 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: good off a cl Carson Palmer wasn't. All these guys 325 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: they'll struggle their first year back. Okay, that's that's playing 326 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: to adversity. So the Ice second exec this this idea 327 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to be a backup. Okay, first 328 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: of all, every report is he's handled himself like a 329 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: pro wh Jalen hurts and everyone knows he doesn't want 330 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: to be a backup. It's a it's a red herring. 331 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: You don't. You don't sign a contract that pays you 332 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: forty million dollars and hold a clipboard. That's why you 333 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: signed the contract. That's that's that's layered like that. So 334 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: it's the team saying we're gonna stick with you. Through 335 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: thick and thin, and the team didn't do it. Look, 336 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: the team screwed up several times over, but there's no 337 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: admittance of it. Hey, it just isn't. I'm not absolving. Yes, 338 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: how well, first of all, you look at who they've 339 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: drafted the past two years. They've misevaluated the wide receiver position. 340 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: They re upped with offensive linemen that were over the hill. 341 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: They tried to basically run it back after winning after 342 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: winning a title, and their team got old and got injured. 343 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: They never replaced their entire offensive staff that left, and 344 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: the current coach, Doug Peterson seems to be over his head. 345 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: How haven't they screwed this way? And say, okay, so 346 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: the Frank Right departure is important, and but that's not 347 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Philly screwing it up. You got a head coaching job 348 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: offering like you gotta leave for that. That's not on. 349 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: And again Hurts comes in with the same players Carson 350 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Wentz played with, and it's putting up four hundred, five 351 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: hundred yards offense. No, he's not. What are you talking about, dude? 352 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: How many points three hundred yards of all? I don't 353 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: care half getting the Saints who had a top five 354 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: defense and his face game because they had no you 355 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: have no book on him. They had three hundred yards 356 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: of offense and half Doug. I guess let's go to 357 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: the second game Arizona Cardinals. How's the offense too? Over 358 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: four hundred yards of offense? Carson Wentz can't get a 359 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: frigging first down for half the season. And then against Dallas, 360 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: jale Hurts gets up fourteen three lead, they get over 361 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: three yards of offense. The defense gave up five hundred 362 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: yards to Anna and Dalton. You know, you know every 363 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: time the defense gives up points, you know, you get 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: the ball back, right. Yeah, he moved the football at will. 365 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: They had a couple stumbles, but the Dallas Cowboys are 366 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: a bad football team. Jason, Jason, you're gonna buy. If 367 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy the Jalen Hurts is better, good luck. 368 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: Go sell that on the street. Okay, But I don't know, 369 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: Maybe it's me, maybe it's not. I'm forty four years old. 370 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: I've watched this thing forever, and the zone read quarterbacks 371 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: they all come in and Taysom Hill he got worse 372 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: and worse's time went on. Okay, Vince Young went worse 373 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and worse's time went up. It's not the same story 374 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: You're you're basically saying they should have not brought Jalen 375 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Hurts in to replace Carson Wentz. Of course not. They 376 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have drafted Jalen Hurts. You don't draft Jalen Hurts. 377 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: If you're trying to fix a quarterback, you do what 378 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: all the other teams in the NFL do, which is 379 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: you sign a veteran Josh mccah. Wait, all the other teams. 380 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers drafted a quarterback in the first round. 381 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: What did that do to Aaron Rodgers? It let a 382 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: fire under him. He's the MVP, He's got forty four touchdowns. 383 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: What happens when the Eagles draft Jalen Hurts? Carson Wentz, 384 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: I can't handle this this pressure and he and he 385 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: starts stinking. He's got the hips like Chuck Knoblock. Come on, 386 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: don't get me that garbage. He lost four offensive linemen. 387 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 388 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 389 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 390 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 391 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Dot Com or stream us live every 392 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, 393 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. What Up, 394 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: What's You? 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And you know, 400 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting, like we'll do this now with the Pats Jason, 401 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: where we're like, man, how did they beat you know, 402 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: pick a team that they pick any win that they 403 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: had this year, Like how did they remember this is 404 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: a Patriot team that still could you know, could finish 405 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: seven to nine on the year. And if you look 406 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago before the collapse, they 407 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: had they beat the Baltimore Ravens, they beat the Arizona Cardinals, 408 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: they beat the Chargers forty five to nothing, stayed out 409 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: in La got dismembered by the Rams, and then the 410 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: kind of the roof, the roof fell in. But there 411 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: was a time there when they won four out of five, 412 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: beat the Jets, Baltimore lost to Houston, beat Arizona, beat 413 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers for the roof fell in. I actually think 414 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: Belichick has done an amazing job considering the limitations of 415 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: this roster. So we'll give We'll just mention that. But 416 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: the whole Chargers Rams LA two step. I compared that 417 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: to a trip in Vegas. You know how you go 418 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: to Vegas and the first stay too long? No, no, 419 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: the first night is always epic. It's it's legid. You're 420 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: so excit decited to be there. You haven't seen your buddies. 421 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: Everybody flies in. You go so hard in the first night. 422 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: Second night also very very good. By the third night 423 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: you're exhausted, you know, you're I can't even drink that much. 424 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: I've no more drugs. I'm done. That was the Patriots 425 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: trip to La Right first night, they crushed the Chargers, 426 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: and then by the end of the week they were 427 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: they had nothing left in the tank. They spent everything 428 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: on the Chargers and got absolutely embarrassed by the Rams. 429 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: On Thursday night football. Um yeah, I mean, I look, 430 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: I think that to Vegas in a while, have you huh, 431 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: I've never done that in Vegas. What come again? No, 432 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: I've never done that in Vegas ever in your life. 433 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I've done Vegas, but never done Vegas. No why, 434 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got married right out of college. 435 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just never did Vegas. Okay, Well, 436 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, we had a couple of buddies. We're gonna 437 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: do our fantasy football draft. At least that's what we 438 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: tell the wives in August, and um, you know the 439 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: draft will be done like quickly online at any time, 440 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: and then you just have a fun weekend, my wife. 441 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: You know, we got I think we're trying to lock 442 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: up a cabana soon for August, because Vegas should be 443 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: good by August, right, the pool scene should be hopping. 444 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: It's really interesting that only now are we concerned about 445 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: spreading viruses in Vegas, and it's the coronavirus, which there's 446 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: been a lot more things spread in Vegas far before this. Well, 447 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: somebody had I think you retweeted this. Somebody put out 448 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: an epic tweet. It was pouring in La yesterday, rain 449 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: all day, hail, and people said, everybody refuses to stay 450 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: inside during a global pandemic. Nobody wants to go outside 451 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: because it's raining. Yes, and just I love that. I was. 452 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: I was using that without giving whoever sent it out 453 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: credit to like my friends over text message. People love 454 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: that Steve material. Yeah, I um, I think it's it's 455 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's a fat where. It's a fascinating time 456 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: in which we live in, right, like everybody's have you 457 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: have you allowed your kids to hang with other kids? 458 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: Like what is your level of Yeah? Yeah, I mean no, 459 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: we haven't been in anybody's house really, Uh, if there, 460 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: if we were, it was worrying. Haven't been anybody's house 461 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: and how long? Well, I mean, like listen, if they 462 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: were outside, the parents are outside hanging out, and then 463 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: the kids want to go right inside play a video game. 464 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: We make them leave the door open, and the kids 465 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: wear a mask for you know, inside thirty minutes you 466 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: wear a mask while they playing video games. Yeah, well 467 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: that is that a heartache? You know? Is that tough? 468 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: He probably? Actually it's a pretty good idea. Yeah, and 469 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: you leave the doors and windows open and hope for 470 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: that draft. But yeah, I have not really been in 471 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: anyone's house in the last nine months. Like we live 472 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: in La The weather's great, you can just hang out outside. Okay, 473 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: have you done any kids sports? Maybe I should plead 474 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: the fifth on that, but um, yeah, we've done kids 475 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: sports outside, all outside. Now no indoor. Jim's well, the 476 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: beauty is you know you can play basketball outside. Um, 477 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: so I've played some good basketball. Yeah, it's basketball, man. 478 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: By the way, Doug, I gotta say this. So we've 479 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: been getting some dad games together, just two on two, 480 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: three on three, and a dad is in physic great 481 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: physical shape. He runs, he's, you know, good athlete, hadn't 482 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: played basketball in years. And in the fourth game of 483 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: two one two, he's like, ah, did somebody kick me 484 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: towards achilles tenant? Yeah? I felt awful for the guy. 485 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Hell is the guy. It's like, I just felt terrible 486 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: for the guy. So, I mean he's on the shelf 487 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: now for like seven months. And the first thing we said, 488 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't come out wrong. Wash man. I'd 489 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: rather get COVID than rupture my achilles. And like everybody, 490 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: every single I talked about the worst part is if 491 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: you if you got I think the time to have 492 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: any sort of surgery, right, this is a pretty good 493 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: time to to to do it. Although Achilles is that's 494 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: a long coming back. It would have been better if 495 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: you got it initially, but now then you would have 496 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: missed the whole summer. It's it's you know, there's never 497 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: a good time. But this is not the worst time 498 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: because by the time he's up and moving around, you'll 499 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: be mid late February. Any international track travel in twenty 500 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: twenty one, I will, yeah, because I'm gonna get the vaccine, right. Um, 501 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: so you so when does I get the vaccine? I'm 502 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: licking door knobs. I don't sure you are, okay. So 503 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: in Mexico's one thing. Everybody in La pops down to Cabo. 504 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Would you go to Europe? Yes, okay, we're tinkering with 505 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: the idea. I don't know if there's another outbreak and 506 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: you're stuck over there for ten days and I don't know, 507 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, crazy stuff in Japan just closed its borders 508 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: to everybody, like, I don't know, man, it's just such 509 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: a crappy time. It ticks me off. It is it is. 510 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: It is not a good time. It is not a 511 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: good time. But the second they say you can travel, 512 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna travel. Yeah, And we should admit add that 513 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: there's obvious perspective that you know, international travel is down 514 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: the list of things that suck clearly in twenty twenty one. Yeah, 515 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, I think there's there's there's a 516 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: bunch of things. We kind of got into this yesterday, 517 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: which is, Um, I think some of the things that 518 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: people are doing for small businesses and raising money is 519 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: amazing and I'm not trying to understand it. And obviously 520 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: this has been devastating to parts of our economy, some 521 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: of it. It should be pointed out that like, look, 522 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: it's it's only speeding up a process which was already 523 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: taking place, yes right, Like that's what's happened in sports, 524 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: that's what's happened in business, to move to mobile ordering 525 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: to online things and away from retail and away from 526 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: from you know, dining in in restaurants. Those things have 527 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: been these things have been happening, maybe not being reported 528 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: by the like the nightly media. Um. In that there 529 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: are challenges to business in two twenty they go beyond 530 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: that of COVID nineteen. COVID nineteen has only sped up 531 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: this process like tend to hyper drive. Um, and I 532 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: think you know, I'll use it. The interesting thing in sports, right, 533 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: is is that I love the Lakers like we did 534 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: this for the fans. Like the fans, I actually played 535 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: no factor in the Lakers who lost last night at 536 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: home to Portland, then winning a championship. But I think 537 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: there's the challenges of getting fans into a stadium are 538 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: real in the NFL. They're real because, as you said, 539 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: you love to gamble on stuff. You love to betting 540 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: lines is what you do for a living. It is 541 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: a is now a fabric of professional and honestly collegian sports, 542 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: and it's going to be all above board now we'll 543 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: be able to talk about it where we used to 544 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: have to use kind of clever wording when you're doing 545 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: the broadcast of games previously, and if you're betting on 546 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: all the games, you don't want to go and sit 547 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: and watch one game when you can sit at home 548 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: for less money, not have to fight the traffic, not 549 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: have to pay the PSL, and you can watch all 550 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: the games. Right, that's like a legit real challenge. That is, 551 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, getting people back in the stadium is gonna 552 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: be even harder now because it becomes a habit. You 553 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: go an entire season without going to an NFL game 554 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: and realizing just how good the product is at home. 555 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: If you didn't, I'll realize it already. And now you 556 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: can bet legally online for all of these games. Like 557 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: why would you ever go again? I would agree COVID 558 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: has been such an accelerant in basically weeding out the 559 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: businesses that really no longer worked, Doug. I mean, I 560 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but the movie industry is in really, 561 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: really rough shape. I have HBO, so I got HBO 562 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: Max for free, and I don't know when the next 563 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: time I'm going to go to a movie theater is. 564 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: I love the experience of going to a theater. I 565 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: had no problem going to a movie by myself, super relaxing. 566 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. But we queued up wonder Woman on 567 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. It wasn't as great as I thought it 568 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: would be. Um, But like now, if I could just 569 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: Wonder Woman thinking it was gonna be great, I'm a superhero, honk. 570 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I love superhero movies. Man, and I got two young kids. 571 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: You know, they did not really like wonder Woman as much. 572 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean the action was good, but did they like 573 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: the first wonder Woman? Uh? They did? I mean there 574 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: was no black Panther. You know, let's keep it real here. 575 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: But it was good. The first one was really good. Um. 576 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: I just you know, now, do you have the whole 577 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: setup at the at the house, because one of the 578 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: things I've done during COVID is I've gotten like a 579 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: new subwoffer, a new front speaker. I've done the surround sound. 580 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna be shocked by this. I'm a little bit 581 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: old school Doug and that I come in and I 582 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: just flip on cable all the time and it's like 583 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: background noise Days did Confuse, which I've seen like seventy 584 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: three times. We'll just be on in the background or 585 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: whatever movie um or a different Strokes episode, you know, 586 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: while I'm working, and I haven't been mister streaming. I 587 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I'm not streaming. I'm just talking about 588 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: that in terms of but that sound, sound and video quality. 589 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: We just realized, you know, we're streaming a lot of 590 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: stuff now, so yes, our system. We moved our family 591 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: room around and got it all set up. We already 592 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: had the subwaffer, but we're now like streaming stuff way 593 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: more than we had before COVID, and I'm not ready 594 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: to dump cable because we need live sports obviously for 595 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: what we do. But I can understand why a lot 596 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: of the people that I talk to under thirty five 597 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: don't have cable TV. I mean, Gavin who produces this, 598 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's one of these guys. Like a 599 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, hey, I got YouTube TV, 600 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: what do any cable for? And you can see that 601 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: covid is going to be an accelerant in the cable industries. 602 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: Is starting to get really ugly. Yeah, I mean, I 603 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: guess at some point though, you know, the Disney has 604 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: their own bundle, right and you know with Hulu and 605 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: E plus whatever, and I would guess at some point 606 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: some of these other superpowers will you would you would 607 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: think will bundle up because I think what's amazing about 608 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: it is initially people thought, well if I stream, it'll 609 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: be less. I'm paying so much for cable because I'm 610 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: paying for all these channels I don't want. Now you're 611 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna end up paying for all these shows and movies 612 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: that you don't want when you're paying your streaming services 613 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: right right, Like it's it's really it's it's going to 614 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: be quite interesting. M Albert Bear is going to join 615 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: us momentarily, We've seen We've seen the Eagles under any 616 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: read maintain a level of consistency. We've seen the Patriots 617 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: maintain a level of consistency. What's your level of concern 618 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: in the Chiefs and their ability to be consistent and 619 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: win in the playoffs? Hi, I'm concerned. They're the best 620 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: team with the best quarterback and elite coach, spotty defense, 621 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: and something you can't quantify is the lack of urgency 622 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: that I see with that Chief's offense, you know, and 623 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: just the desire to repeat as champions. I know it's 624 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: there obviously, but it's a different desire than say, what 625 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have, you know, which is damn, we 626 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: gotta get we gotta get somewhere, we gotta do the 627 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: damn thing. And I you know, the Cleveland Browns have 628 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: have a major sense of urgency. Went healthy and keep 629 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: an eye on that team in the AFC playoff, hint. 630 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: I just Lamar Jackson to get a playoff win. You know. 631 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: It's just a different mentality, and Doug, I can't quantify that, 632 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: but you know, as someone who's played sports, I know 633 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: you can speak to that, like we gotta get over 634 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: that help. We got it. We got to get the championship. 635 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: Um for the Bills, like they just gotta win a playoff. 636 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: Bills gott to win a playoff game. Lamar's got to 637 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: win a playoff game. It's different than wanting to repeat 638 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: as champions. Yeah, and there's a there's a difference in 639 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: There's also a difference in when you've actually done it before, 640 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: right like they they basically did it or came close 641 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: to doing it against the Patriots, but then they cleaned 642 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: some stuff up and they had to author you know, 643 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: three comebacks to do it last year, obviously in the 644 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Niners the third comeback. So there's 645 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: a different level of confidence. The question is is that 646 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: confidence arrogance? Is it just that they don't have Edwards 647 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: Hilaire See, I think Edwards hilairey is the I agree 648 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: with you. His health is paramount in their success because 649 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: if you look at two years ago when they were 650 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: probably there were a better offense than they were last year. 651 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: The difference was their ability to run the football, which 652 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: changed mid season. Right when you add Edwards Hilaire to it. 653 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: It becomes an offense which is really really difficult, almost 654 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: impossible to stop because what so many teams are doing 655 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: is you know, watching that Chargers tape right and just 656 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: kind of trying to keep Tyreek Hill and everybody in 657 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: front of them and making them stay patient, and at 658 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: times Pat Mahomes loses his patience and tries to make 659 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: a play with that you know, one hundred million dollar 660 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: arm and he'll force something in there. I still think 661 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: that's manageable, but it should be pointed out that any 662 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Reid has had plenty of collapses and losses in the 663 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: postseason when he should have won games. It is not 664 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: a lock though, since that they'll win it. I just 665 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't know who the full who the team that 666 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: will give them the most difficulty is. I just it's like, 667 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: do you really believe in Josh Allen? Do you really 668 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: believe in Big Ben at this age? Do you really 669 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: believe in you know, the Cleveland Browns that they make it? 670 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: Do you really like Lamar has played them twice and 671 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't close. It wasn't even close. It's a terrible 672 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: matchup for their defense where they like to pressure you 673 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: and play man in coverage, like they just they can't 674 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: cover these guys. They cannot, So I don't know where 675 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: that upset would come from. Now the counter to that 676 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: is okay, but they almost lost to the Falcons this 677 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: past week, and Falcons should have no reason to believe 678 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: they should belong on the same field as UM. Thanks 679 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 680 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 681 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 682 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 683 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock App. Doug gott 684 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: Leevin Jason McIntyre in for Dan and the Dan Netts. 685 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: This is The Dan Patrick Show, brought to you by 686 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: Mercedes MG Driving Performance. Let's welcome to Albert Brier MMQB 687 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: over the National Football League. UM, let's start with Cam Newton. 688 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, he had kind of a weird post game. 689 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: Hey man, I've been working hard, getting up every morning 690 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: doing all these things. I'm just street him venting. Like 691 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: all that said, he and they had some drops last night. 692 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: It's not all on him, but yeah, he can't can't 693 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: throw a football anymore. Do you do you see him 694 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL next year, because it would appear they 695 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: would have to be somebody's backup in order to stay 696 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, and I think that that's kind 697 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: of the question, Doug, is where this goes. It's going 698 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: to depend on how badly he wants it, because I 699 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a starting job, you know, 700 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: without competition sitting out there for him. And I can 701 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, last year when he was 702 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: sitting out there in the market. One of the reasons 703 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: why is teams knew like he didn't want to go 704 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in a mentor role. He didn't want to go 705 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: somewhere as a bridge. He wanted to go somewhere to 706 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: be the guy. And he had to wait for that 707 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to come about before he put together a season 708 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: like this. And so, you know, I think what it's 709 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: going to require a cam is to do something he really, 710 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: i'd say, probably hasn't done since junior college, which is 711 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: completely subject get his ego and go and earn his 712 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: way onto a roster. I mean, if you look at 713 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: the guys Lenning, it like, let the guy's kind of background, 714 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: he's a five star recruit out of high school and 715 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: goes to the University of Florida's behind Tim Tebow for 716 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: a couple of years there scuffled a little bit being 717 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: in that situation. Winds up in junior college. Who's best 718 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: player in the country in junior college. Next year he 719 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: wins the Heisman, he's number one overall. Picking a Day 720 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: one starter in the NFL. What I think he's gonna 721 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: have to do to get, you know, re established himself 722 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: as an NFL quarterback is going to be completely out 723 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: of his comfort zone, and um, it's going to be 724 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: interesting to see if he's willing to go through that 725 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: sort of process to re establish who he once was. 726 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: All Right, Albert knew the Patriots quarterback for Week one 727 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one will be a Marcus Mariota, be Jimmy 728 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: Garoppolo or see other. And you got to give me 729 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: a name for other. I'm gonna say so. You know, 730 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: I like the churches there, Jay mckin, I'm marry out. 731 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: Mario is interesting. I think Jimmy, you know, his availability 732 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: is going to depend on whether or not the Niners 733 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: have an upgrade available to him. I think they would 734 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: love to have Jimmy back, you know, at the very 735 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: least is a bridge to whoever the long term guy's 736 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: going to be, whether that's in twenty one, twenty two, 737 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: twenty three, whenever. Yeah, I would say that their options 738 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: are open right now. You know, I wouldn't be totally 739 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: floored if they brought Cam back in some capacity, because 740 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: they really do like him, um, and they like the 741 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: way that he's handled himself and the way he's worked 742 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: and all that different stuff obviously has played well, but 743 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: all the other stuff's been good, you know. And then 744 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at, you know, some 745 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: other situations where do we know what's gonna happen with 746 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan in Atlanta, Um, well we don't know that 747 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: coach and general manager are gonna be, so maybe not. 748 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: Do we know what's gonna happen when Matt's stafford in Detroit, Well, 749 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: we don't know that coach and general manage are going 750 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: to be, so probably not, you know. So I just 751 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: think there are a few situations out there where you 752 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: can see the opportunity for the Patriots to get in 753 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: a guy who I think it kind of be like 754 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: what Alex Smith was for Andy Reid in Kansas City, 755 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: where Alex Smith bought you time to find whoever your 756 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: long term answer was going to be, so I think 757 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: that that would probably be you know, what their approach 758 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: will be, and that could be Jimmy, it could wind 759 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: up being somebody like Matt Stafford. Um, you know, but 760 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: clearly I think they think, they know, you know, they've 761 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: got to get better production out of the position. That said, 762 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it is one of a million problems they have. 763 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why Camp's played the way 764 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: he has is because I think that's probably like a 765 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: bottom five roster in the NFL right now. I don't 766 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: think anybody's disagreeing with you. Um what Brian Dable obviously 767 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: has done amazing things with Josh Allen. How viable is 768 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: he as a head coaching candidate? Oh? Really viable? You know. 769 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: I think out there in la Um he'd be a candidate. 770 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if you guys know this, but 771 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: the general manager in la Tom told the Chargers GM. Yeah, well, 772 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: Tom Tilasco and Brian Dave all went to high school together. So, um, 773 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, I do think that there's I do think, 774 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: like you know, if you if if you want to 775 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: look at like specific situations that would make sense. The 776 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: situation is where you're going to have a young quarterback, 777 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: whether there's Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville, Justin Herbert in LA. 778 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: I think Brian Dave all to be very interactive for 779 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: those teams, and I think he's gonna have opportunity in 780 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: those places because of the work that he's done with 781 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: Josh Allen specifically. So I don't think there's any question. 782 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, among you know the coordinators in 783 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: the NFL, and you know, if you wanted to rank 784 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: up the jobs they've done, um, you know, I think 785 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: Dave Ball has got to be you know, top five, 786 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: top ten on your lists across the entire league and 787 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: are very very viable Canada to be a head coach. 788 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. You know, you see what 789 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: he's done for Josh Allen, he'd be pretty fun to 790 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: see what he could do with Justin Herbert out in LA. 791 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. You're gonna love this. Albert 792 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: Bruce an Ohio state guy. Everybody knows that Albert. I 793 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: don't want to go into, you know, relitigate the dween 794 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: Haskins situation, but a couple of smart people have said 795 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: to be hey, Justin Fields is coming out and you 796 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: gotta be careful when you look at these Ohio State quarterbacks, 797 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: what have they done in the pros? And Albert I'm 798 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: not comparing Justin Fields to Haskins and Cardale Jones, but 799 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: we know Ohio State's loaded with five star recruits everywhere 800 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: all the time. When the Fields was without Olave, his 801 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: great receiver, he looked ordinary against Northwestern. I'm just curious, 802 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: do you believe as of right now, Justin Fields is 803 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: the favorite to go number two in the twenty twenty 804 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: one NFL Draft. I think I think he's a favorite 805 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: j Mac, but I think that GAP's closed, and I 806 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: think Zach Wilson has made a real one. And and 807 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: I just tell you, like now, Wilson is a little 808 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: polarizing with scouts, so it depends sort of on who 809 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: you talk to. The comp I've gotten is that he's 810 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: a taller, leaner Baker Mayfield. And I know, based on 811 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: the ups and downs the Baker's had, some people might 812 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: look at that sideways. Baker was the first self public 813 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: of this trap, you know, and won the Heisman Trophy, 814 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: and so you know, I think that Zach Wilson is 815 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting one to sort of break 816 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: down and look at and I do think you're gonna 817 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: get some agreement disagreement from team to team. And so, 818 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think Justin Fields has built more like 819 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. He's got a bigger arm, he's Yeah, 820 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: I think that the ceiling with Justin Fields is obscenely high. Um, 821 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, because he's had these bumps 822 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: against Northwestern, against Indiana, coming off of what was like 823 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: a nearly perfect year. Um, you know, the sophomore and 824 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State, I do think the doors open. I will 825 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: say this though, j Mac, Like, I don't know that 826 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: the criticism of like Ohio State quarterbacks in general is 827 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: a fair one. And I'm gonna say this though. I'm 828 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna say this though, it's because Ohio State hasn't had 829 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like this, right, you know what I mean. Like, 830 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: but it's like it's like Alabama. It's like Alabama. Yeah, 831 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we're gonna hold all the Alabama 832 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks against two or against and that's the that's the 833 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: thing is Like I mean, it's like we're compare him 834 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: to like JT. Barrett and Braxton Miller were those Sporting 835 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: Folk quarterbacks, you know what I mean. Like, so m 836 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: and Ryan Day wasn't there for that. So um, you know, 837 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields, I think he's got a much 838 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: better head on his shoulders than Dwayne Haskins had coming out, 839 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: and I think that that's going to make a big difference. 840 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: Like I think, I think he's a really, really really 841 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: mature a kid and really ready to be a pro, 842 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: where Dwayne Haskins clearly wasn't. Um And yeah, I mean 843 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: I think that he'd acknowledged, he has said it himself. 844 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: I think he'd acknowledged that he's got a lot of 845 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: things to clean up after you know what we're seeing 846 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: against you know, the better teams in their schedule this year. Yeah, 847 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: the Haskins things is interesting because I had I tweeted out, 848 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: I had um somebody a source close to the staff 849 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: last year who's like, look, they were so befuddled by 850 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: the fact that he couldn't his recall wasn't right, he 851 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: wasn't getting the plays out right. And you know Jay 852 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: Gruden system, the Gruden system is very, very worthy, but 853 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: they actually like, is he dyslexic, Like, let's get him checked, 854 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: and they went through all his medicals. They had him 855 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: checking like not dyslex and they just determined that he 856 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: ain't he either isn't bright enough or isn't doing the work, 857 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: or maybe a combination of the two. And you know, 858 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 1: there was criticism after criticism, but it was legitimate their 859 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: concerns with the last at all. Right, So but why 860 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: cut him the week before the final week of the season. 861 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: That that signifies either he's trying to make a statement 862 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: for the rest of the locker room or the guy 863 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: is cancer and he's got to get him out of 864 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: the locker room. Well, I mean, like, let's go all 865 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: the way back to the start of the season. I mean, 866 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: first of all, but one of the reasons he got 867 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: benched in the first place, it was because they got 868 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: blown out by the Ravens and on the sideline, like 869 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: somebody had a phone on the sideline and Dwayne Haskins 870 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: found out that he's thrown for three hundred yards and 871 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: was just started kind of puffing his chest out and saying, 872 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: nobody can say anything to me. And a lot of 873 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: his teammates heard that, and I carried over into the 874 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: locker room and I think, you know what, Ron Rivera 875 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: and Scott Turner and all those guys were dealing with 876 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: was is like can we how can we possibly go 877 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: forward with this guy? You know, when the locker room 878 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: starting to look at him this way, you know, And 879 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: so that's when they pulled a plug on him as 880 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: a starter. As for you know, what's happened more recently, 881 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: my understanding is they came very close to cutting him 882 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: last week, and when they sat down and talked about it, 883 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: really the decision they made was, we don't think it's 884 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: fair to the rest of the guys in the team 885 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: that we'd be throwing somebody in the practice squad out 886 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: there with the playoffs in the line, So we have 887 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: to stay the course here. And then on Sunday, what 888 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 1: they found out is that guy in the practice squad 889 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: was actually a better option Dwayne Haskins based on the 890 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: way that Haskins played. So I think that that sort 891 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: of freed them up where it was no longer like like, hey, 892 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: like this is going to screw the rest of the 893 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: team if we do this. Taylor Heineke actually did look 894 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: like he was a better option than Dwayne Haskins, and 895 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: so I think that that sort of brought them to 896 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: this decision point. The reason you get rid of him 897 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: now is again, I think this is about Ron River 898 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: and knowing his locker room, and if you had Dwayne 899 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: Haskins on that roster, that storyline lingers and sitting there, 900 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: and if you've already made the determination he's not going 901 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: to be on our team in twenty twenty one, which 902 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: they had, well, then what's it worth having him around 903 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: at that point? Like, all you're doing is like creating 904 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: this storyline that's just going to be sort of hovering 905 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: over your locker room, and like, why do you want 906 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: to have that around? So I think that that's sort 907 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: of what it came down to was once they made 908 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: the decision he's not going to be here next year, 909 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, you have to start to look at what 910 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: his value was the team. And when the practice squad 911 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: guy shows, okay, like he's better than Haskins, you know, 912 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: then what are you doing? All you're doing is just 913 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 1: letting that storyline linger around the players that are the player, 914 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: around a group of players that's trying to get in 915 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs, all right? Breer Jim Harball was presented with 916 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: a contracted Michigan I can't find anything saying he's agreed 917 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: to it or there's been negotiations, which makes me curious, A, 918 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: do you think Jim Harball makes the leap to the 919 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: NFL and be about Doubo Sweeney joining Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. 920 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: Give me a percentage chance that happens. Well, let's start 921 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: with Harbaugh. Um. Yeah. My understanding is like, and I 922 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: think there were signs here that he was that he's staying. 923 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: Um you know number one, you know you had firing 924 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, um Don Brown. Number two. My understanding 925 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: was he's he's told other people he's gonna be more 926 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: hands out with the quarterbacks next year. And I don't 927 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: think you're running around telling everybody that, um, you know, 928 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: other people in the staff that if um, if you're 929 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: planning on leaving. And I think what the extension sort 930 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: of came down to. It was funny because I was 931 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: talking to some people about this, you know, I minded, 932 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: I like, from what I heard, he had he did 933 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 1: sniff around some of the NFL jobs. Um, but we're 934 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: what are we really going to come down to? Was 935 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: you know, was he gonna have to take a pay 936 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: cut at Michigan and if he if if that was 937 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: presented to him, is this the one guy who would 938 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: actually go into a contract here at a college job. 939 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: And you guys, don't, Doug, you know how hard that 940 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: would be to do with recruiting everything else. But is 941 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: this the one guy who is willing to stay screw you, 942 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not taking that extension and just go into a 943 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: contract year. So I think that was sort of the 944 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: question there at the end. And you know, it looks 945 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: like I guess they're gonna get an extension done now. 946 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: But he definitely sniffed around some of the NFL jobs, 947 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: and I think the Bears job would have been one 948 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: that he would have had great interest in. And obviously 949 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: Matt Naggie and Ryan Pacy to have saved themselves with 950 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: the way the Bears have played down the stretch here. 951 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: Um the Jets their owner, would he hunt Johnson as 952 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: long hadn't sort of been a fixation with Harbaugh and so, 953 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think that there were there There may 954 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: have been some opportunity for him there. But you know, 955 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: obviously it looks like you stay in Bishigan based on 956 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: his actions over the last week. As for Dabbo to Jacksonville, God, 957 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: is it interesting. I will say this, though I haven't 958 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: heard any anything solid on the Jaguars pursuing um Dabo Swinney. 959 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: I have heard something solid on the Jaguars presume pursuing 960 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, and so I think that there's a possibility 961 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: that urban Meyer winds up there. I'm not saying he's 962 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: going to, but I my understands there's been communication between 963 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: the sides. Urban has explored staffing, like who he would 964 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: have in certain roles if he was going to do it. 965 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, I think there's the obvious, 966 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: which is the resources there are going to be incredible. 967 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna have Trevor Lawrence. You also got multiple picks 968 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: in the first second chords, pisth in seventh rounds, you know, 969 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: the most cap space in the league. And oh, by 970 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: the way, you're gonna have an owner who's incredibly patient 971 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: with you. And think about this part of it too 972 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: for Urban guys. And I know this sort of a 973 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: long way to answer, but I'm trying to give you 974 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: the information. It's really good. Yeah, I mean, like I 975 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: would say one of the things that I did here 976 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: on Urban that's sort of an interesting twist all of this. 977 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: Do you guys know how his like his reputation is 978 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: sort of a mess in the state of Florida, right 979 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: because of how he left and everything else I've heard 980 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: that really bothers him. Like he feels like, I won 981 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: two national championships, by the way, that's more than Spurrier one. There. 982 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: I should be a legend that you ask, And what 983 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: better way would there be to fix his legacy in 984 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: North Florida than to go and win in Jacksonville. So 985 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,439 Speaker 1: it would almost be like two birds with one stone. 986 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: He takes a shot at the NFL and he's also 987 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: sort of able to repair his legacy at a place 988 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: where he was very, very successful. Be what you You 989 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: don't think that'd be a good hire. That's that's huge 990 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Yeah, to Jacksonville with one of the most 991 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: interesting teams in the league next year, Well, I mean 992 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: they must watch right, Yeah, I would on a week 993 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: a week day that I mean they like I said, like, 994 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: can you think about those resources to j MC. I mean, like, 995 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: look at the draft picks, look at the cap. Now 996 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: that that's that's the that's that's the big that's the 997 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: big thing there. Right is the reason the reason that 998 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: the college guys don't leave for the pros is because 999 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: in college you get to pick your players right, and 1000 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: you can have better players than the other team. Ninety 1001 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: nine percent of the time. You can't do that in 1002 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: the pros, and oftentimes you know you have to go 1003 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: in and but and rewire the whole thing. And by 1004 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: the time you try, you try and evaluate and get 1005 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: players back in. And the benefit that he'll have not 1006 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: having sat out that long is what Pete Carroll had 1007 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: when he got to Seattle, which is Pete Carroll had 1008 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 1: recruited all those guys, so he knew who had taken 1009 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: who not to take. And Urbans recruited all these guys. 1010 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: He knows who to draft, knew not to draft. It's 1011 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: it's an enormous advantage in fact, Like I mean, I remember, 1012 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: I've talked to the guys in Seattle about this, Like 1013 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: you guys may remember in twenty and ten, so they 1014 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: had two first Shrump actually took Russell Okum with the 1015 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: first of them, and then the second of them. Everybody 1016 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: saw it like, oh, well, Pete Carroll is gonna take 1017 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: Taylor Mays, who who he had he had signed it 1018 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: at se right right, Well, no, he knew not to 1019 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: take Taylor Mays. No, I know, but but but he had, 1020 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: he had, he had signed him. So everybody's like, well, 1021 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: he's this guy, he's gonna take him. But he knew it, right, 1022 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: he knew And that was the thing. He knew not 1023 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: to take Taylor Maze. He knew to take Earl Thomas 1024 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: because he'd recruited Earl Thomas, even though he didn't get him, 1025 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: like he'd recruited him. And like for for the first 1026 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: three years they were there. For the first three years, 1027 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was in Seattle, like I mean, it was 1028 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: a steady stream of kids who he had first met 1029 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: when he was like fifteen or six, when they were 1030 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen years old, you know, And so he 1031 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: had all this background on all these kids. And if 1032 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: you look at the way that Seattle drafted in twenty ten, eleven, 1033 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: and twelve, it's totally reflected. I mean, he recruited Richard 1034 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: Sherman at USC. He recruited I mean, it's just like 1035 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: it's it's a you go right on down the list 1036 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: and there are all these guys that either he recruited 1037 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: to SC or he tried to recruit to SC or 1038 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: maybe he struck out with whatever it was. They had 1039 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: all this incredible background, and it really really kind of 1040 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's why, like the Panthers are going 1041 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 1: to be really interesting, you know, like over the next 1042 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: few years, because they have all of that background and 1043 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: you look at their their rookie class and Derek Brown 1044 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: and Jeremy Chin and how how how it looks like 1045 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: they've got a foundation now. It's a really really interesting advantage. 1046 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, Urban Meyer would deaf only bring that with them. 1047 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you guys are aware, but but 1048 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: NBA teams have started doing that too, where they're actually 1049 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: hiring recruiting gurus to work in their front offices because 1050 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: the NBA draft is can become so young. They need 1051 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: guys that know these kids since they're fourteen fifteen years old. 1052 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: Albert Couple, I got another two other quarterback questions for you. Ye, 1053 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: any buyer's remorse in Miami, as you know, they're juggling 1054 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: the too a thing and he's not the best quarterback 1055 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: and you know twice now his coaches thought that Fitzpatrick 1056 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: has given them the better chance to win. Is there 1057 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: you're watching Trevor watching watching what's going on with the Chargers. 1058 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: Is there any buyer's remorse that they drafted the wrong quarterback. 1059 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I can just remember, like and I don't 1060 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: think so like I at least I haven't heard anything 1061 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: directly from thember. I just like go back. I'm like, 1062 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: I look at like the recon I did during the 1063 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: draft and Tuesday and back in March and April and 1064 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: kind of, um, you know, what I'd heard then was 1065 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 1: that the Dolphins really liked Herbert, you know, that they 1066 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: were out on and so it's sort of interesting because 1067 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: some of those things sometimes, you know, sometimes you hear 1068 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: one thing and the other's true, or certain corners of 1069 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: a building might feel one way, then you know another 1070 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: corner of the building. And so I just sort of 1071 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: filed that away when they took two over Herbert, you 1072 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: know where I just you know, you wonder, like, okay, 1073 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: like was there something there was there a basis for 1074 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: for for so many people in the league feeling that way, 1075 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that that part of it's 1076 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: interesting because I don't know about you guys, but just 1077 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: like watching tah it feels like like his traits looks 1078 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: sort of average in an NFL context, you know, like, 1079 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: and then you watch Herbert and his traits are off 1080 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: the charts, you know, so I think that that. But 1081 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: when we were sold, we were sold on toa was 1082 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah we know he's a little small, Yeah we know 1083 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: he's not crazy athletic. Yeah we know he has a 1084 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: crazy arm strength. But man, the football like you. But 1085 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: that goes counter to what And obviously Fitzpatrick's thirty seven 1086 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: years old. He's seen and done everything. Yeah, but it 1087 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: appears that his own coach is like, yeah, he's not 1088 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: really ready for these moments, meaning a football like you 1089 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: isn't as developed as we were led to believe. Yeah, 1090 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I mean, look, the one thing we 1091 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 1: have learned about the Dolphins is they're not afraid, right, 1092 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: like so, and we're seeing that in this situation they 1093 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: aren't afraid. And this is what I really appreciate about 1094 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: it from from you know, the perspective of like the 1095 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room and everything else, is that 1096 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: he's willing to do whatever it takes to win. And 1097 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: so like, if you're an older guy in that locker room, 1098 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: you don't care like what to a tongue of below 1099 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 1: is going to look like in five years and how 1100 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: is this going to benefit him long term? You want 1101 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: to win right now. And so I think, like you know, 1102 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 1: just as far as getting his players to respond to him, 1103 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's willing to buck convention 1104 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 1: and do what's best right now for a team that's 1105 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: competing for a playoff spot, I think it's I think 1106 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: it's awesome. One more, Yeah, Sam Darnold, who is he 1107 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: quarterbacking next year? In Week one? Don't you dare say 1108 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: the Jets? Albert? Why woin the Jets? Why would the 1109 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: Jets run that? Run that back? Give him some actual 1110 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: players to play with? And you got to pay him 1111 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: a touch? All right? No you don't. You don't have 1112 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: to pick up the fifth year option. What if I 1113 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: said forty nine ers? Yeah, there we go. That makes sense. 1114 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they'll have a fit, They'll they'll have a 1115 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: fairly high second round pick, right that would be attractive 1116 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: to Joe Douglas. I mean, I don't know if that 1117 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,959 Speaker 1: one's interesting to me. I I mean, I the Jets 1118 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,959 Speaker 1: really like him. The problem, the problem with the Jets 1119 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: situation with him right now is that you've got to 1120 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: make a long term decision on him this year, because 1121 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: if you're not going to take one of those other quarterbacks, 1122 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: with the second overall pick. The problem then becomes you 1123 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: have to pick up that option, right, Like, you can't 1124 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 1: not take a quarterback at two and then decline the 1125 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: option on Sam. You can't. So and that's twenty five 1126 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: million dollars guarantee for twenty twenty two. So the idea 1127 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: that you can date Sam Darnold any longer if you're 1128 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas is kind of out the window. Now you 1129 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: got to kind of now you got to go forward 1130 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: to marry him if you're not going to take a 1131 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: quarterback to a second pick. So you know this part 1132 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: They're a big part of me is I know he 1133 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: really likes Sam, Like I wonder if they're they want 1134 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: to start that, you know, quarterback and a rookie contract 1135 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: cloth over again give themselves that advantage going forward. So 1136 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: but I don't I could see. I could see, yeah, 1137 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: and I think that they're I mean, like, you think 1138 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna go back and you're gonna see some teams 1139 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: that really likes Sam coming out. The Niners are one, 1140 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: the Broncos are another. I'll be really interested to see 1141 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: if in Indianapolis or Chicago gets involved, and those teams 1142 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: could be involved too, um, I think they'd be really 1143 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: I think there would be real interest in Sam johnod 1144 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: W if he becomes available. All right, I got I 1145 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: got thirty seconds. Who starts a quarterback for the Cardinals 1146 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: and the Rams this weekend? Oh say Kyler Kyler Murray 1147 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: and John Wolford? Oh not kidding? Yeah, yeah, Albert, great stuff, bro, 1148 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: that was great anytime. Guys, Hey man, John Wolfer, remember 1149 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: the name. They actually really like him. I know, I know, 1150 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's Kurt one or two point er, right, 1151 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: AF guy, a F guy. Hey, hey, hey, maybe Jered 1152 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: Goss got a bigger problem than look at you startings die. 1153 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: There you go, that's that's that's that's Albert Brear. Thanks 1154 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Jason McIntyre, 1164 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: who hosts the Straight Fire podcast, you can download every 1165 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: day in your iHeartRadio app every morning. Get up downloaded 1166 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: and you will get some hot take goodness from in jamac. 1167 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you a couple of days early. 1168 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: This is the Patrick's show. Okay, here's what I want 1169 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: to do. Okay, Jason, I Booger McFarland last night of 1170 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football kind of went off on what he 1171 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: thinks the downfall of Dwayne Haskins was and the parallels 1172 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: to young players in the NFL, young African American players 1173 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um there were parts that I liked. 1174 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: There are parts that I greatly disagree with, but I 1175 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: want to play it. We will not edit it. This 1176 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: is two minutes, unvarnished. And then you have not heard this. 1177 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know you have. Many in America 1178 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: have not heard it. Okay, Okay, So this is Booger 1179 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: McFarland last night. You know, unfortunately, I've seen this too 1180 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: many times play in the NFL. Almost a decade. You 1181 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: played a long time. We've been around it for a 1182 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: long time, and oftentimes young players, especially and I'm gonna 1183 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: go here, especially young African American players, because they make 1184 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,959 Speaker 1: up seventy of this league. They come into this league 1185 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: can ask themselves the wrong thing. They come into the 1186 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: league saying, not how can I be a better player. 1187 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 1: They don't say how can I be a better teammate? 1188 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: They don't say how can I be better? A better person? 1189 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: How can I get my organization over the hum Here's 1190 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: what they come in saying. They come in saying, how 1191 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: can I build my brand better? How can I build 1192 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: my social media following better? How can I work out 1193 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram and show everybody that I'm ready to go? 1194 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: But when I get to the game, I don't perform. 1195 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, unfortunately, is not the first case that I've 1196 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: seen like this, and it won't be the last. And 1197 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: it bothers me because a lot of it is the 1198 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,439 Speaker 1: young African American player. They come in and they don't 1199 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: take this as a business. It is still a game 1200 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: to them. Look at it as a football This a 1201 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: football man. This is a billion dollar business. It's billions 1202 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: of dollars. They pay us a lot of money to 1203 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: talk about the game. So imagine what they play these 1204 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: guys to play the game. Yeah, they play a child's 1205 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: game and get paid at King's ransom. And it bothers 1206 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: me because I saw a quarterback do it. I saw 1207 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell do it, the number one pick in the 1208 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: draft that gave him forty million dollars and he threw 1209 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: it down the damn drain because he didn't take it seriously. 1210 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: And it bothers me because they had a lot of 1211 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 1: jobs like this around. I'm gonna tell you I've been 1212 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: retired awhile it's not a lot of jobs like that 1213 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: around when it will pay you millions of dollars for 1214 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: virtually six months of performance. So my message to the 1215 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Wayne Haskins, not just him, but the rest of the 1216 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: young players in the NFL, Man, this is a game, 1217 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: but take it as a business. There are billions would 1218 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: they be of dollars at stake? And until you start 1219 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: approaching this game that way, until you start coming to 1220 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: work saying, you know, what what can I do to 1221 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: get better today? What can I do to make sure 1222 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: my teammates are better today? How can I put my 1223 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: organization first instead of my damn Instagram? Take it as 1224 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: a serious business, but too many times it's a game. 1225 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: We want to TikTok, we want to do all these 1226 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: different things. Man, don you understand how much money is 1227 01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: at stake? What do you think, Jason, I don't know. 1228 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: First impressions are, okay, yeah, we know a lot of that. 1229 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was groundbreaking stuff. Um. I suppose 1230 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: he was firing some shots at Cam Newton as well 1231 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: with the whole Instagram stuff without saying Cam. Um. I don't. 1232 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but my first 1233 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: thoughts are okay, thanks book. I think I think what 1234 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: he's doing is there's a little bit of old man 1235 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: yelling at you know, yelling at the clouds, right like 1236 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: this Instagram stuff I do. I I remember a tweet 1237 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: in the offseason. It's you. It isn't It's still a workout, 1238 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: even if you don't post it on the gram, right, 1239 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the lab. I'm in the lab. And but 1240 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: that is a very popular thing. I think the issue 1241 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: with it is he makes it about the black athlete, 1242 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, look, it's not about the black athlete, 1243 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 1: like Dwayne first of all, Dwayne Haskins. Do I think 1244 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: he didn't make it because of Instagram. I mean, I 1245 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: think taking his selfie instead of taking a knee when 1246 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: he win a football game is a pretty big, indelible impression. 1247 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 1: But the big thing is he just wasn't Now, he 1248 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: was not dedicated. He wasn't good enough at his job. 1249 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell wasn't dedicated, wasn't good enough at his job. 1250 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: Mike Vick has has admitted when he was in Atlanta 1251 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: it was all on talent. He wasn't dead. I take 1252 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: it away from the black athlete, and I was gonna 1253 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: get I was gonna get that too, right. I mean, 1254 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, the story is the same. It just it 1255 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: is like Johnny Johnny Manziel was better off being popular 1256 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: than when he was actually being good at his sport. 1257 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I had a better white quarter quarterback. You're ready, yeah, 1258 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield came into this league with a 1259 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. And I get that, okay, But 1260 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: he's out there on Twitter every day, every day, scrolling. 1261 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Now this is early in his career, scrolling and liking 1262 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: tweets that are negative about him. He likes some of 1263 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: mine that stuffed I had said on Fox Sports Radio 1264 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: about how I can't make Baker the number one pick immaturity. 1265 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: Baker led the league in commercials last year. You know 1266 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: that that's a fun set. He led the NFL in 1267 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: commercials last year, and he sucked as a quarterback. And 1268 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: what did he say in the offseason? He said, you 1269 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,479 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna put step away from the social 1270 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: media and I'm gonna focus. And what has happened this year? 1271 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has made a massive leap. And if you remember, Doug, 1272 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: I took so much heat for this. Baker's first appearance, 1273 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: he comes in to spell and injured Tyrod Taylor in Cleveland. 1274 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: It was on Thursday night football against my Jets. As 1275 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 1: soon as Baker wins the game, he walks off the 1276 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: field and his phone is in his hand. As he 1277 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 1: goes to do the interview, you see him looking at 1278 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: his phone and I said, boy, interesting that the first 1279 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: thing he does after a win is go right on 1280 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: his phone to jump on social media and tell everybody, Hey, 1281 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I won, Hey let's take the selfies. And man, I Doug, 1282 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I have never had that many people come after me 1283 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: before the part of my take. Guys took me to 1284 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: shreds on their podcast. I don't listen to that podcast, 1285 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: but I did listen to what they said. I mean, 1286 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: everybody's coming after me for it, and wouldn't you know 1287 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: it dunk three years later? It was one hundred percent accurate. 1288 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Baker was too wrapped up in posing for the Graham 1289 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 1: and jumping on Twitter and but but I don't need 1290 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: to focus on the game, and he moved away from 1291 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: that this year and he's become a better quarterback. So 1292 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: do I do? I think the issue is that Booger 1293 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 1: circled it into the black athlete. Is this this is 1294 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: just a black athlete problem right where it's a it's 1295 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: an all athlete problem, and it's the football problem. He's right, 1296 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: it is a job. It is a job, and I 1297 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: think it's Look, I caught heat when when I repeated 1298 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: the story of the Dwayne Haskins they wondered if he 1299 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: was dyslexic. You know when when I when there have 1300 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: been people that have said that race played a factor 1301 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: and why the Bears selected Mitchell Trubisky instead of Deshaun Watson, 1302 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, not, nothing could be further from the truth, 1303 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 1: right not? How do I know? Because I've actually talk 1304 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: to the Bears. Guys had taken me through the process 1305 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: of how you selected Mitch Drubisky and in no part 1306 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: where they were like, wow, you know a black quarterback, 1307 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Like why would that actually matter? If they want it? 1308 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Nflgm's front office, people's scouts. What they want to do 1309 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: is they want to keep their job and get a 1310 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: better job. Right, This is a very simple concept, and 1311 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 1: if a quarterback will help them do that, that's the 1312 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: quarterback that they want. And they had their reasons behind 1313 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: passing onto Shaun Watson was they didn't like his decision 1314 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: making in the red zone and they thought his knee, 1315 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: based upon their medical would tear again. His knee did 1316 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 1: in fact tear again. And oh yeah, by the way, 1317 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson has almost the exact same record, there's 1318 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: almost the exact same record with the Houston Texans since 1319 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: he got there, as opposed to the four years before 1320 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: he got there, including one in two in the playoffs 1321 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: before he got there, one two in the four years 1322 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 1: before he got there, one in two in playoffs since 1323 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: he's been there, and the regular season records are essentially identical. 1324 01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,439 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Look, they missed on they missed, they missed 1325 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: on Pat mahomes, Am, I gonna have to get upset? 1326 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Was that Deshaun Watson slander I heard? Or no, yes, 1327 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know Shaun Watson slander. If you 1328 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: consider slander actual indisputable quarterbacks records, that's a stat, now, Doug, 1329 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 1: come on, listen. It's always Brian, It's always been a stat. Royally, 1330 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: it's an irrelevant stat. Quarterback records. Come on, some some 1331 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 1: jabronies were popping the stack. What are you talking about? Yeah, 1332 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 1: this is the whole stat that matter. Okay, so so 1333 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Matt Matt stafford is an all time how many guys 1334 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: start in the NFL eleven on offense, eleven defense? But 1335 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback record matters? Yeah, come on, that is that's 1336 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: juvenile stuff, Doug. You're way better than quarterback records. That's 1337 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: like saying, oh, mister Trubiski has more wins in his 1338 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: first and last three years than Deshaun Watson. He's a 1339 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: better quarterback, or he's almost on the same level, not 1340 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 1: even close. Stop, Okayshaun Watson surrounded in neptitude. Bill O'Brien 1341 01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: tore that roster. Oh, Shaun Watson should stop going out, 1342 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: get me the hell out of here, or get me 1343 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 1: some help. This is a joke. Wait, wait is saying 1344 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: they did get him some help? Oh? What they did 1345 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: was they what they what they did was they traded 1346 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: their future for a left tackle. Okay, the idea he 1347 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: doesn't trade Hopkins for a running back? Who's a joke. Okay, 1348 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: that J J. Watt rant. Go listen to that. Who 1349 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 1: do you think that's about? Like the entires Texans roster? Okay, 1350 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,560 Speaker 1: there was an SI piece about this guy, Jack whole 1351 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: thing down. Watson is a great quarterback surrounded by if 1352 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: he's not surrounded by joked. They look what they won 1353 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 1: the exact same amount of games before he got there, 1354 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 1: when Bill O'Brien was there with ricks Rick Smiths, who 1355 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: was a terrible gentlemanager. As they did in the last 1356 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 1: four years. They just have day. So you can tell 1357 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 1: me that that Bill O'Brien did everything to tear it 1358 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: down this year. He had DeAndre Hopkins in previous years 1359 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: with the worst division in football. You do realize they 1360 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: have the worst, one of the worst defenses in the 1361 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: NFL this season. Again, absolutely do absolutely do is that 1362 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: where is that money Watson for letting Brandon Allen throw 1363 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,679 Speaker 1: for four hundred yards last week. Brandon Allen, who served 1364 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: me door dash three weeks ago at my front door, 1365 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: is now throwing for four hundred yards against the Houston 1366 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: Texans defense. Because it's a joke. J J. Watt lit 1367 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: up that locker room because nobody did nobody caress you 1368 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: think Shawn Watson is unfair? Dug Well, I didn't. First 1369 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,519 Speaker 1: of all, I hate when you do this. This is 1370 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 1: what you do. I really dislike when you do this. Okay, 1371 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 1: you take a statement and then you make it into 1372 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: something that it is not. I didn't say Mitch Trubisky 1373 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: is better than him, so don't say that it did. 1374 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Don't say that I said I put all the blame 1375 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: onto Shaun Watson. But at the end of the day, 1376 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 1: in sports, okay, when your point guard, all that matters 1377 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: is your record. When you're a quarterback, all that matters 1378 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 1: is your record. And you can sit here and tell 1379 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 1: me what about how that hold on? I'm not done. 1380 01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: When when when Bill O'Brien is villified, But he's not 1381 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 1: villified for being a guy who's a complete idiot. Okay, 1382 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 1: he's a villified because his ego ran amok it ran 1383 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: out of control. By the way. David Johnson, who I 1384 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 1: would agree the returns they got for for the DeAndre 1385 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: Hopkins trade I didn't like. Okay, David Johnson looked really 1386 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: good when he's finally healthy. But what does that mean? Okay, 1387 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 1: But what do you mean by Mitchell Trubisky has as 1388 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: many wins as Deshaun Watson. What I didn't say that. 1389 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 1: You actually said that, so I didn't write it. What 1390 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I said was, there is no difference in record of 1391 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: the franchise since you've had Deshaun Watson is viewed by 1392 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 1: many people as one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL, 1393 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,560 Speaker 1: and there is no there, There's there, There is no 1394 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: record to point that out. If you look at Aaron Rodgers, 1395 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: every year he's healthy in the NFL, with the exception 1396 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 1: of the year Mike McCarthy got fired, his teams won 1397 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: ten games like every every everyone. The same thing with 1398 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the same thing with Drew Brees, the same 1399 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: thing with all these guys. Okay, Drew Brees had terror 1400 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 1: le defenses in New Orleans, right because they got punished 1401 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: for a bounty gate, right, But like they've they've never 1402 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 1: had these type of years in New Orleans, they just 1403 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 1: have not They've not had this type of lean years 1404 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 1: and now, when surrounded by a good supporting cast, they've 1405 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: been one of the elite teams in the NFL. There 1406 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: isn't that with the Texans. Now, are there other factors 1407 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: at play? Sure, JJ Watt kept getting hurt, he's gotten older, 1408 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless got older. You know, was it Brian Cushing 1409 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 1: whatever got suspended because the pds. But but the fact 1410 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 1: is that if you look at Deshaun watch, they've done 1411 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,640 Speaker 1: everything in their power. Everyone would regard Bill O'Brien as 1412 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: an offensive and quarterback guru, that he's done a great 1413 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 1: job with inferior talent at times. And he had DeAndre Hopkins, 1414 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 1: and he wasn't the only one who wanted to trade him. 1415 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 1: And oh yeah, by the way, if they could have 1416 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: gotten a better deal, they would have taken a better 1417 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: deal for DeAndre Hopkins. I think they didn't get enough. 1418 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,879 Speaker 1: But apparently everyone around the league thought, man, you're overpaying 1419 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins. So anyway, the point of the point 1420 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: is this that Deshaun Watson somehow gets is getting a pass, 1421 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 1: whereas no other quarterback gets a pass for their win 1422 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: loss record. Remember, the whole thing with Dak Prescott is yeah, 1423 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I know the numbers aren't great, but at least they win. 1424 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: Of course that went out the door because they weren't 1425 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 1: winning this year when he was putting up big numbers. 1426 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 1: So the point is very simple, is that you can 1427 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: sit here and pound your pounded into the table and 1428 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: tell me Deshaun Watson, great, he needs more help. First 1429 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 1: of all, he might have been able to get more 1430 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: help if he didn't sign this gargantuan contract, if that 1431 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,759 Speaker 1: wasn't hanging over there. He signed a bad contract, Shaun Watson. 1432 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,639 Speaker 1: So Doug, let me just see if just so I'm 1433 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: not getting your words wrong, okay, correct? So basically Tom 1434 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Savage and whatever jokers the Texans had at quarterback won 1435 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 1: the same number of games as Deshaun Watson. Yes, okay, 1436 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: And but what are we taking from that, Like, that's 1437 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 1: a statement that's looking at numbers as very basic. Are 1438 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: you trying to say something bigger than that without saying 1439 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 1: it because there's no substance behind it. What I'm saying 1440 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 1: is that Deshaun Watson is massive league, massively overrated. And 1441 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:08,880 Speaker 1: what happens Okay, okay, got it. Okay. So the four 1442 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: teams from the NFC that qualified for the playoffs already, 1443 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: what are they have in common? Um? So we got 1444 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 1: the Packers, we have the Saints, Tampa and um Seattle. Yes, 1445 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 1: they have veteran quarterbacks, guys first first ballot Hall of 1446 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Fame quarters. Yes, guys would have been in the league 1447 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: seven or more years, ten or more years. Yeah. Okay, Um, 1448 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: let's go look at the AFC. Okay, the Bills, they 1449 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: they they have the one kind of unproven quarterback. Go 1450 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: ahead and give me the other teams that have made 1451 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs already. Kansas City, that's a Hall of Fame. Yeah, 1452 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's uh two three culture Buffalo culture on 1453 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 1: the outside, I think right now, culture ten and five. 1454 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 1: So Tennessee's ten and five. Their quarterbacks are future Hall 1455 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 1: of Famer. Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers, Yes, they are in. 1456 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 1: They were all the fame quarterback. Yes, they had a 1457 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: top five defensive entire season. Okay. So the point is simply, 1458 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and I was getting around to the point of the idea, 1459 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about Booker McFarland's rant, and where I don't 1460 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: believe that race plays a factor in people's social media desires. 1461 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? Uh? Yeah, I don't. Is 1462 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 1: there any study that tells you that that that black 1463 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are more prone to be addicted to social media 1464 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: and than white quarterbacks. No, it's it's a generational thing. 1465 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 1: And either guys are as you pointed out, like Baker 1466 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Mayfield grabbing your phone and you were right, or you 1467 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 1: know that that's basically what it is, or other guys 1468 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: that are boring, you know, Andrew Luck with a flip phone, 1469 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Like those dudes are boring. Trevor Lawrence of the Bible 1470 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 1: dude is boring. But you know what, he's locked in 1471 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,639 Speaker 1: on football. It's a job. Now, you have to have both. 1472 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 1: You can't just be locked in on football as Cam 1473 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Newton is now. But he can't throw a football, so 1474 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't actually matter, right. But my issue was like, 1475 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 1: look when I said that, the Bears, so you know 1476 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 1: that race didn't play a factor in drafting to Shaun 1477 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Watson and they don't look as dopey as some would 1478 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: lead you to believe. And I'm not a big Mitch 1479 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: Trubisky fan, but a lot of it was the context 1480 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 1: of replacing Jay Cutler, and they what they thought they 1481 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 1: would get in a locker room guy in Trubisky that 1482 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: they weren't good. That they they didn't know if they 1483 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 1: would get with Mahomes because Mahomes wasn't ready when he 1484 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: got to the league. And it took a year of 1485 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 1: seasoning behind Alex Smith that helped. And he's been surrounded 1486 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 1: by an unbelievable that just coaching staff, but support staff 1487 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 1: in terms of his skill position players at wide receiver, 1488 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 1: tight ended at running back, like all these things kind 1489 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 1: of go into the factor and their context that matters, 1490 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 1: That actually matters. And I don't believe race plays any 1491 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,639 Speaker 1: sort of factor of the quarterback position. Either you can 1492 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: or cannot play. That's all anybody cares about. Okay, so 1493 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 1: I think I've figured it out. I did look this up. 1494 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: I was stunned as well. Houston Texans did win a 1495 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,600 Speaker 1: playoff game in twenty sixteen. Guests. They were one in 1496 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,560 Speaker 1: two in the four years in the playoffs before he 1497 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 1: got there, the one and two in the playoffs since 1498 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,520 Speaker 1: he's got so the first playoff appearance, they got destroyed 1499 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: thirty to zero at home by the Kansas City Chiefs. 1500 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 1: The next year, they had to play the Raiders, and 1501 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,760 Speaker 1: I was like, how did they beat the Raiders? All 1502 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: that's right. Derek Carr was injured late in the season 1503 01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,759 Speaker 1: and the Raiders started. I believe Connor Cook, a rookie 1504 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: out of Michigan State. Is that accurate or it was 1505 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 1: something backup? I don't know who it was. He was 1506 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 1: in way over his head and the Raiders got buried. 1507 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 1: What happened the next week, of course, Houston, they got 1508 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,839 Speaker 1: destroyed by the Patriots. So Deshaun Watson gets to the playoffs. 1509 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 1: It is second season. First season, he gets hurt. First season, 1510 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: A second season, he gets to the playoffs. They lose 1511 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 1: to the coltson home twenty one seven. Andrew Luck was 1512 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 1: still there last year. Deshaun Watson orchestrates an incredible comeback 1513 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 1: beats the Bills, takes a twenty four zero lead against 1514 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs at Arrowhead, and the defense, which is at 1515 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 1: dumpster fire once again, gives up fifty one points and 1516 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 1: loses to the eventual Super Bowl champs. Hey help me out, 1517 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: help me on here, help me out here. When when 1518 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Kansas City, when they're down twenty four nothing right? Yeah? Um, 1519 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: they scored to make it twenty four to seven. Does 1520 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 1: Houston get the ball back? I would assume they did 1521 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 1: off when they went when it was then twenty four fourteen, 1522 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: Does he used to get the ball back? They did? Yeah, 1523 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 1: when it was then twenty four twenty one, used to 1524 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 1: get the ball back to twenty score every single time 1525 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: he didn't score ever? Yeah, no one more. They were 1526 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: up twenty four nothing and they had lost fifty one 1527 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 1: thirty one. All right, okay, So the point is that 1528 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 1: it's really amazing how teflon that dude is and I 1529 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 1: and I actually and and what's crazy about three hundred 1530 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,880 Speaker 1: and forty eight yards? So they had a twenty four 1531 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 1: nothing lead and got boat raced and one more time, 1532 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: and he's the guy of all the bed the coach again, 1533 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: this is the Jason. This is the Jason McIntire deal. 1534 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,640 Speaker 1: Take what I said and then take it to a 1535 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 1: statement which no one ever said, No, I'm not you know, 1536 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 1: you're making it, so I'm trying to say it. What 1537 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 1: I am saying is saying, if I may be so bold, 1538 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 1: that Bill O'Brien catches every bit of the heat for 1539 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,680 Speaker 1: the collapse. No one ever says, like, hey, you know 1540 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 1: what Deshaun Watson was the quarterback for all seven of 1541 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,799 Speaker 1: those drives. They got the football back and and manage 1542 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 1: one touchdown after having a twenty four nothing lead. Okay, 1543 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,800 Speaker 1: that is not all on Deshaun Watson, but it's also 1544 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: not all on Bill O'Brien, and it's not all on 1545 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 1: the defense. It is. It is a team game. It's 1546 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be the ultimate team game, and quarterbacks record matters, 1547 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 1: and he was the quarterback. Like look, Garoppolo collapsed in 1548 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,599 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl collapse in the Super Bowl. They had 1549 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: a lead. All he has to do is complete a couple. 1550 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: He has Emmanuel Sanders wide open, he overthrows it. If 1551 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 1: he underthrows it, it's pi. He misses. He misses. Time 1552 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 1: and again people give Garoppolo heat for that collapse. They 1553 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,640 Speaker 1: they have they they No one has ever said, like 1554 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: outside of me, that, hey, yeah, is it Bill O'Brien's fault. Sure, 1555 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 1: it's also Deshaun watch. Watson can get you three one 1556 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 1: points on the road in a playoff game. He's done 1557 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 1: his job. No, he do your job on defense and 1558 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 1: you have freaking stop thirty one points on offense. I've 1559 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 1: done my job. Can the defense get one stop fifty 1560 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,639 Speaker 1: one points, Doug and Deshaun Watson's first. His name should 1561 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,560 Speaker 1: not be anywhere attached that loss. That is not remotely 1562 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,719 Speaker 1: on him to score. The forty nine Ers had twenty 1563 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 1: points in the Super Bowl. Yeah they did lead, but 1564 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City could Watson having? Is DeShawn Watson having a 1565 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 1: good year? This Year's got thirty touchdowns? Solid, he's having 1566 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 1: a solid year. He's having better than Ben Roethlisberger. He's 1567 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 1: completing He's completing seventy percent of his pass He's also 1568 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 1: throwing thirty qt and Chad Hanson, No, you told me 1569 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 1: that their team stinks. They have nobody but Deshaun Watson. 1570 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,640 Speaker 1: He's looking at thirty touchdowns. Man, you gotta come on 1571 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 1: level up and get the advanced numbers. Watson. Here's the 1572 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 1: advanced quarterback. Here's the advance. Here's the advance. No he's not, Yes, 1573 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 1: he is. They're four and ten, dude, four and eleven. 1574 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 1: Excuse me? Four to eleven? You know you know, top 1575 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: ten quarterback at four to eleven. Thanks for listening to 1576 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 1577 01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,240 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 1578 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 1579 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR, or stream us 1580 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app.