1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: M. What's being surgically inserted? Mcglens. I'm Robert Evans hosted 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards. This is part two of our epic 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: episodes on John Brinkley, the man who put goat balls 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: into people. Caitlyn DURRANTI, how are you doing. I'm so good, 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: happy to be here, happy to be hearing about goatballs. 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Here here, and hearing about goat balls. Now, would you 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: say that by this point in the series, you have 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: now heard the phrase goat balls and variations of thereof 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: more than you had in the entire rest of your life. 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Put together with certainty, yes, you know. That was Actually 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: the original founding goal of this podcast was to achieve that, 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: uh and it It took us a year in change, 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: but I'm very proud. Yeah, I mean you accomplished that goal. 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: So congratulations and so happy to be a part of it. 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: We did it, Sophie, Let's break it down podcast over everybody. 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: This this whole episode is just to celebrate that milestone. 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: All right, now, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk more about 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: John Brinkley. In fall of nineteen three, as John and 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: Minny Brinkley were on their way back from their Asian 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: adventure and undercover investigative journalist named Harry Thompson published a 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: bombshell expose a on diploma mills. The first article did 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: not mention Dr Brinkley at all, but when he heard 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: about the article, he knew it represented a mortal threat 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: to his practice because Harry Thompson was reporting on exactly 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: the sort of fake diploma operations that had given him 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: a fake diploma back in nineteen fifteen. Now roughly twenty 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: five thousand practicing doctors in the United States at this period, 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: we're in reality fake doctors. That's a lot of fake doctors. Now, 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: many had received their credentials from diploma mills, like Brinkley, 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: but others had just bought the diplomas of dead doctors 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: from their widows or paid for the answers to medical exams. 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: All of this was very common. Um yeah, yeah, Now, 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: fake degrees from diploma mills were by far the easiest 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: kind of doctor fraud to expose, and before long, John 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Brinkley was revealed as the fraud that he was. When 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: he arrived back in Milford to his newly completed radio station, 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: Doctor not At Doctor Brinkley started his radio career by 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: haranguing journalists for being He didn't use the term fake news, 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: but that was the idea. He accused them of being 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: shamefully in league with the sinister A m A, which 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: he called a monopoly against the public interest, because they 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: wanted doctors to have medical licenses by July. How dare they? 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: By July of nine, grand jury had convened to hand 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: out indictments to people who had been handed out fake 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: medical degrees and to people who had received fake medical 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: degrees and practiced with them. Brinkley was one of the 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: men indicted, but the governor of Kansas refused to extradite 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: him to San Francisco to stand trial. He said, we 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: in Kansas get fat on his medicine. We're going to 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: keep him here so long as he lives. Now, did 51 00:02:53,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: this governor have goat balls inside of him? Probably right? 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna guess that governor had some goat testicles 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: shoved up inside him, maybe even a couple of pairs. Yeah, 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, did anyone get more than one operation? Like? 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Are there some people with like fourteen goatballs inside them? 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: They're probably right. I'm gonna guess there's some rich guys 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: who are like one set of goat testicles is good. 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: I won't fucking give me four. Yeah. Yeah, that's my 59 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: guest too. Now, Brinkley responded to his victory by telling 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: his audience that the persecution he had faced had been 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: quote no more justified than the persecution of Christ. He loved, 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: comparing himself to Jesus. By this point, Brinkley's radio Yeah. 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: By this point, Brinkley's radio presence probably had as much 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: to do with his continued freedom as his million dollar 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: goat gland operation. I'd like to quote from the book 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: Border Radio, which describes Dr Brinkley's early radio offerings quote 67 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Methodist and Episcopal church services, Masonic lectures, light music from 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: the Ninth Cavalry U S Army Orchestra, French lessons from 69 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Kansas State Colleges College of the Air. These and other 70 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: uplifting and inspiring performances went forth from the broadcasting tower 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: of kf KB at ten fifty kill cycles on the 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: radio dial. Doctor himself gave the medical lectures over the 73 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: station three times a day, telling of his success in 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: the field of goat gland research. He urged those disgusted 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: with becoming below par to listen to his broadcasts, and 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: he became a warm and well trusted radio personality as 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: he described the symptoms of nephritis, arterio sclerosis, and paralysis. 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Argentine's Dr Brinkley spoke conversationally with a well oiled country accent, 79 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: blending flat Midwestern intonation and a smokey mountain drawl. Building 80 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: on the faith and sympathy of his largely rural audience, 81 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: the radio physician combined earthly country language with just enough 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Latin medical terminology to impress and confuse most anyone. According 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: to one listener, his voice would just wound you. The 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: New York Times described him as having a soothsayer's mysterious voice, 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: and listeners from all over the Midwest agreed with the 86 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: fan who said, there's something about Dr Brinkley that gets 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: close to your heart. So you had a great voice. 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Was it the goat testicles that are getting close to 89 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: people's hearts or he's now he's probably not putting them know, 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: he's putting those in their in their regular testicles. No. 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: I think he's just one of these guys that has 92 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: a really well suited voice for radio. Just like this 93 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, just like all of us here, Uh, 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: and and it mixed well with his surgery because you know, 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: people are always going to trust someone that they feel 96 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: like they know better than some stodgy old doctor with evidence. 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: And if Dr Brinkley's in your ear six hours a day, 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: you feel like you know him in the same way 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: people feel like they know their favorite podcast hosts. Like 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: this is one of the things that concerns me a 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: little bit about podcasts because like, the fandom that you 102 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: build is so much more enthusiastic than anything I experienced 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: as a writer. Um. And I think it was sort 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: of the same thing with early radio. People were like, 105 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: no one had ever been in people's ears five hours 106 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: a day. That just wasn't a thing. Like now we've 107 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: We've got a billion different people like Joe Rogan who 108 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: have been doing that for years. But Dr Brinkley was 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: the first, and so like he really developed this cult 110 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: following before anyone else had one, Like the original podcaster. Yeah, 111 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: he was the original podcaster and he was fucking selling 112 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: medical advice. Um yeah uh. He was essentially a mix 113 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: of Alex Jones and Doctor Oz and an age that 114 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: had never seen or heard anything like either of them, 115 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: and like both of those men He used the implied 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: emotional intimacy of radio, the weird sort of bond that 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: forms when someone is stuck inside your ear for hours 118 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: a day to sell people on his quack remedies. Brinkley 119 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: would say things like, a red bird and his mate 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: are building their nest just outside my bedroom window. Will you, 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: for your health sake, be with us this may and 122 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: note the difference between the stallion and the gelding. The 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: former stands erect, neck arched, main flowing, chomping the bit, 124 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: stamping the ground, seeking the female, while the gelding stands 125 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: around half asleep, cowardly listless. Men. Don't let this happen 126 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: to you now, some effective advertising effective telling men their 127 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: dicks won't work if they don't get goat balls. These 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: carefully crafted harangues worked. Brinkley's practice expanded, as did the 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: popularity of gland surgery nationwide. Soon, hundreds of doctors and 130 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: companies across the nation were offering their own variations of 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Dr Brinkley's bogus surgery. One thing that made Dr John 132 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: Brinkley unique was his willingness to talk frankly and openly 133 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: about the sexual needs of women. This was actually unprecedented 134 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: and feminist icon. You were right, feminist icon John Brinkley. 135 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: He would say things like, quote, don't get the impression 136 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: that women are icebergs and content with impotent husbands. I 137 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: know of more families where the devil is to pay 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: in fusses and temperamental sprees are all due to the 139 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: husband not being able to function properly. Many and many 140 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: times wives come to me and say, doctor, my husband 141 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: is no good. Wow. Okay. So he's advocating for women, 142 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: horny women who were like, my husband's dick doesn't work. 143 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Please help me. I need to I need to come. 144 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: But he's also saying in an era where you just 145 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: didn't talk about this, he's saying, sex is a normal 146 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: part of life. Women deserve to fuck, and if you 147 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: can't fuck your wife, you're not a good husband. So 148 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: you need my goatballs. Like the fact that he's saying, 149 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: so you need my goat balls makes it not nearly 150 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: as woke. But like the fact that he's being like, 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: sex is a normal part of a relationship, and you 152 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: need to be able to to please your partner and stuff, 153 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: and that's important. No one else is saying that it's 154 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: just which is weird. Yeah, it's it's different now. I 155 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: should note that he also promised that any women who 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: came to his clinic with their husband could also quote 157 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: avail themselves to my years of study and practice and 158 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: have their clearterest improved upon, which I would love to 159 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: know how he thinks that would happen. I'm very curious 160 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: as to what improvements he wants to add. Does he 161 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: putting goat holes into women's clitters as he do? Goats 162 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: have clitters, as he putting goat click? I think he 163 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: might be putting goat clitterea expand extending a human clitter 164 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: iss by just sticking a little goat clitter as on all. 165 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: I want to die just at this thought of that. 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: If there's one thing we know about Dr Brinkley, it's 167 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: that he'll take any part of one animals genitals and 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: he'll put it on another's animals genitals. That's that's his practice. 169 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: That's what Doc Brinkley does, is he adds genitals to genitals. 170 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and he was so impressed by the what 171 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: was the word lubossity or something, lubricity, lubricity of lubricity goats. 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this is a long time coming for 173 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: him to be. I would argue that he only was 174 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: talking about that, like female women's sexuality, because I was 175 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: just an un yet explored avenue by which he can 176 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: sell his goat ball. Absolutely, he only brought it up 177 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: to get men in, for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 178 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: that that's absolutely true, although it does lead to something 179 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: ironic a little bit later. As his radio show went on, 180 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: Dr Brinkley learned to diversify his offerings to keep his 181 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: audience interested. He would always be on multiple hours a day, 182 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: but he was savvy enough to know that people needed 183 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: more than just his voice. According to the book Charlatan, 184 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: his offerings included quote French lessons, astrologers, gospel quartets that 185 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: tell Me a Story Lady, and Hawaiian songs of farewell 186 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: country music too. Within a year of its radio debut 187 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: a performance by fiddle and John Carson over WSB in Atlanta, 188 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: Brinkley was paying top dollar to recruit the champion fiddle player, 189 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Uncle Bob Larkin, and others, and launching discoveries of his own, 190 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: like Roy Faulkner, a k a. The Lonesome Cowboy, a 191 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: short man with a tall pompadour and easy grin Faulkner 192 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: sang the old songs and a sunny voice like Gene 193 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Autrees and became Brinkley's most famous house musicians. And as 194 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: it happened, John Brinkley wound up becoming one of the 195 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: founding fathers of country music and of modern radio, as 196 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: he was the first person to do this. He spread 197 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: country music outside of like this thing that just like 198 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: some people would play songs for each other too, like 199 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: a nationwide thing like. He was the first guy spreading 200 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: country music on a widespread basis by just having these 201 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: people play because it was what he liked. And also 202 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: the people wouldn't get tired of him talking about his 203 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: goat ball. Yeah yeah. Country music was launched as a 204 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: genre to sell goat testical surgery. That wouldn't Wow, I'm 205 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna go home and think about that. Think about that 206 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot. You think about the I want to like, 207 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: I want to like yell that to Toby Keith at 208 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: some point, do you know the history of your music? 209 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: You're just selling goat balls many Yeah. So John Brinkley, 210 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, became a radio pioneer, became a country music pioneer, 211 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: was a goat testical replacement pioneer, and then eighty years 212 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: before Alex Jones would have the same idea, John Brinkley 213 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: had what probably would be the most single innovative idea 214 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: of his entire life. He was going to start selling 215 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: medicine over the radio. Now, this idea was born out 216 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: of a practical problem. KFKB was so popular that it 217 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: received more than three thousand letters a day, far too 218 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: many for the local post office or Dr Brinkley's office 219 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: to possibly handle. He launched a new program in Medical 220 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: Question Box. It was devised as a more efficient way 221 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: to answer his mail while also making a huge amount 222 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: of money. Here's the book border radio quote. During the broadcast, 223 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: he read letters from his listeners and prescribed medicine for 224 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: their ailments, medicine that they could get from one of 225 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: the more than fifteen hundred pharmacists who belonged to the 226 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Brinkley Pharmaceutical Association. After giving news of his current patients 227 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: over the air, O Rob has been sitting up all 228 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: day Alfred Nashson's greetings home doctor opened the question box 229 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Sunflower State from Dresden, Kansas. Probably he has gall stones. No, 230 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't mean that, I mean kidney stones. My advice 231 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: to you is to put him on prescript and numbers 232 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: eighty and fifty from men, also sixty four. I think 233 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: that he will be a whole lot better. Also drink 234 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot of water. To another supplicant, doctor responded, for 235 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: three months take doctor Brinkley's treatment for childless homes. Of course, 236 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: doctors say it is vulgar for me to tell you 237 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: about this, but we are taking a chance, and we 238 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: don't think it's obscene down here. If this lady will 239 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: take numbers fifty and sixty one and that good old 240 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: standby of mine number sixty seven for about three months, 241 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and see if it isn't a great big change taken 242 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: place to a person with exactly the opposite problem. The 243 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: doctor counseled, I suggest that, yeah, exactly, yeah. I suggest 244 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: that you have your husband sterilized, and then you will 245 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: be safe from having Moore's children, provided you don't get 246 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: out in anybody else's cow pasture and get in with 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: some other bull. So he starts diagnosing people over the 248 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: radio and prescribing them over the radio. It's hundred pharmacies 249 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: to get on to the plan. And one of the 250 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: things they do is he's not just prescribing them normal medicine. 251 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: He launches a whole line of medicine that's not known 252 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: by what it actually is, but us by a number 253 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: number fifty four, number sixty seven. Um, so it's his medicine. 254 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: It all costs six times the market price for a 255 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: medicine of the type. Uh, and he gets a dollar 256 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: for every bottle that's sold, which means a lot more 257 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: money than he would. You know, it's a shipload of money. 258 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: And of course the people who are taking medicine based 259 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: on his over the air diagnoses aren't just people who 260 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: he's reading their letters on air. Anyone who hears someone 261 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: describe a complaint that they have will then drive out 262 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: to the pharmacy and go get whatever medication he suggested 263 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: for that person. So he's yeah, and then he's making 264 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: a dollar off of every bottle, and these people are 265 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: just like, well that kind of sounds like what I'm 266 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: going through. Better get this medicine. That's not get this medicine. Well, 267 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: part of the problem is that it was real medicine, 268 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: So it's actually more irresponsible than what Alex Jones does, 269 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: where he just sells nonsense pills and vaguely claims that 270 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: they help your brain. These were actual drugs. People would 271 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: like hear him talk to someone on the radio would 272 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, that sounds like what I've got, and 273 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: then they'd go get medicine. That might be terrible for them, 274 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: because you shouldn't just take medicine randomly because of what 275 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: you hear on the radio. Um Dr H. W. Jilly 276 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: of Ottawa, Kansas wound up treating a mailman who took 277 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: Dr Brinkley's on air advice and got medication based on it. Quote. 278 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: I found the patient profoundly collapsed, his countants ghastly. I see, cold, pulseless, 279 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: and apparently dying from some great shock. Upon my question 280 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: as to what happened, he whispered, I took some of 281 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Brinkley's medicine. Now that medicine was Brinkley's Number fifty, a 282 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: liver medication that cost three fifty despite being only worth 283 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: about seventy five cents. It was real medication, obviously, but 284 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: its price was wildly inflated. Unfortunately, was also exactly the 285 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: wrong medication for the patient. Doctor Jelly reported that its 286 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: effects had quote been so drastic upon the patient as 287 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: to produce enormous choleral grippings and actions and vomiting causing 288 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: a hering open of an old ulcer and a violent hemorrhage. 289 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: The vomiting and intense pain continuing. X ray pictures were 290 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: taken showing the pyloric orifice about one and a half 291 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: inches to be nearly closed and it will be imperative 292 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: to make a new opening by attaching the bowel to 293 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: the lower margin of the stomach. So he has to 294 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: perform bowel surgery on this guy because he took radio pills. Geez. Now, 295 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't like to diagnose people over over podcasts, Caitlin, 296 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: but you know, you know what I do like it 297 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: seems like it works so well. It did work so well, 298 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: and so that's why I'm going to diagnose that whatever 299 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: problems you have at home, listener, they can be helped 300 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: by the fine products and services that we're about to 301 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: advertise on this show. Just don't take Dr Brinkley's number fifty. 302 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: It's only if you have liver problems. Was that? Was 303 00:16:52,120 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: that a good ad? Plug, Sophie? Wonderful? Okay products, We're back, Caitlin. 304 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: How you feeling about this guy so far? I'm feeling 305 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: like I need some of his medicine because he's making 306 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: me sick well. The medical question box soon netted Dctor 307 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: Brinkley around fourteen thousand dollars a month, which was roughly 308 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: six and a half million dollars a year in modern money. 309 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: He makes so much money, shit now. The longer his 310 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: grift went on, the more victims turned up. One such 311 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: victim was a middle aged man named Whitbeck. Like many 312 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: of Dr Brinkley's clients, Whitbeck felt beaten down by his 313 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: difficult life of labor. He saw Brinkley's gland operation as 314 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: his only hope for regaining the vitality of his youth, 315 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: so he and his wife mortgage their home to afford 316 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: the surgery. Now that only brought in about five fifty dollars, 317 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: which was two bucks short of what they needed. But 318 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: Whitbeck and his wife were sure that the kind old 319 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: doctor Brinkley they heard preaching on the radio would give 320 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: them a break when he heard about their situation. Next, 321 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: According to the book Charlatan Quote, Brinkley was not that 322 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of Christian. When Andy got there with only five 323 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: fifty dollars, Brinkley wouldn't touch him. He'd have to raise 324 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: seven fifty or go home without an operation. I never 325 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: felt so sorry for anyone in all my life as 326 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I did for Andy as he stood there weeping like 327 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: a child. One friend of the guy recalled he wanted 328 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: that operation so bad so he could go home into 329 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: his old job. Then Many Brinkley, who liked to describe 330 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: her role at the clinic as counseling, collecting, and goodwill, 331 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: stepped in. She told him he'd just have to raise 332 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: the other two hundred, and they worked on His fears 333 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: made him think the goat glands were the only thing 334 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: that could save him and make him young and strong again. 335 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: And Andy didn't know where to turn for money. With 336 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: tears in his eyes, he begged Brinkley to take the 337 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: note for two hundred dollars and he'd pay it little 338 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: by little out of his wages as he earned them. 339 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: Many Brinkley refused, but did agree to write his employer 340 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: and get them to agree to garnish his wages until 341 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: the two hundred dollars was paid. Whitbeck got the surgery, 342 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: which obviously didn't work, and he wound up sicker than 343 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: he had been before and was now completely destitute and mortgaged. 344 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh my God, that's cool. So everything I said about 345 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: John Brinkley being any sort of philanthropist I was not right. Yeah, 346 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: he was definitely not a philanthropist. What man eat the rich, right, 347 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: eat this rich guy for sure? Now. Another victim was 348 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Alexander Eckblonde and his wife Rose. She was dying of 349 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: colon cancer, and actual doctors had told Alexander that his 350 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: wife's case was terminal. He later recalled, I loved my 351 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: wife very much. I would have given my own life 352 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: to save her if I could. And a man in 353 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: my place about to see the wife he loves drift 354 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: out to the tide, will grasp at any straw. So 355 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Blonde managed to pull together barely enough money for an operation. 356 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: Rose went under the knife and died the very next day. 357 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Dr Brinkley still demanded payment. There are dozens and dozens 358 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: of documented cases like this, and probably hundreds of cases 359 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: that were never documented. The wheels of truth and something 360 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: that vaguely resembled justice gradually turned, though, thanks largely to 361 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: the efforts of one Dr Morris Fishbean, by the late 362 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties had become the chief nemesis of John Brinkley, 363 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the editor of the journal of the American Medical Association 364 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: went from state to state confronting their medical boards with 365 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: evidence of Brinkley's butcher One by one, Brinkley's ability to 366 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: practice medicine was revoked, but Brinkley still had his radio station, 367 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: and on it, he attacked Morris fish Bean as fishy 368 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: fish Bean and slammed the A. M A. As smirking 369 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: Oligarch's promising I'll grind their heads off under my heel 370 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: like I would a snake. I mean, he's got away 371 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: with words. He's got away with words. That's why he's 372 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: a great radio personality. And I will say, as someone 373 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: who does essentially the same job, I love grinding snakes 374 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: heads off under my heels. Same. That's how you get 375 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: fish oil. I've heard that's how you get That's how 376 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: you get snake oil. What did I say, fish oil? 377 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Fish oil? No, you grind fish under your heel for that. 378 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: You've got to strangle a lot of fish to get 379 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: fish oil. Yes, I'm don't have a way with words, 380 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: which is why I'm a terrible podcaster. It's well, I 381 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: don't know, Caitlin. I believe if you were to start 382 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: selling pills based on random radio diagnoses. You could make 383 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: six million dollars a year. Thank you so much for 384 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: your vote of confidence, and that I would also just 385 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: like to say that I would not do that because 386 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm not a horrible person. Well, I'm happy 387 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: to do it, but I need to I need to 388 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: ink a deal with Walgreens before I started prescribing anything. 389 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: As The Kansas City Star began to publish a series 390 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: of expose s on Dr Brinkley, they spread the story 391 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: of Karamatics, a fifteen year old appendicitist patient who claimed 392 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Brinkley had held her at gunpoint and demanded an extra 393 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: hundred dollars for the operation he'd just performed on her. Quote, 394 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I lay at the point of death while Brinkley drunk, 395 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: straddled the doorway with a revolver in his hand and 396 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: threatened to shoot my two brothers if they did not 397 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: pay him. Yikes. He see. He loves threatening people while drunk. 398 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Which that's the most likable thing about the guy to me. 399 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Waving a gun around while drunk, threatening the surgery patient, 400 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: that's just that's just good old fashioned American fun, that's right. 401 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Gotta admire him. M That's why I spend every Friday 402 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: night at the hospital. Now the Star also did the 403 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: hard grunt work of putting together a clear list of 404 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: patients who had died under Dr Brinkley's ministrations. He insisted, 405 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I will not accept any patient who cannot be cured 406 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: or may die under treatment. No patient of mine has 407 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: ever died here. If we should have a man die here, 408 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: the doctors who are fighting me would all publish it 409 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: over the country. So I must be careful. Other doctors 410 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: may kill him off, but I daren't. The next day, 411 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: The Star published a list of five people who had 412 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: died at Brinkley's hospital in the last two years. He 413 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: had even signed their death certificates. John Brinkley next hired 414 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Pinkerton detectives to harass, threaten, and bribe his unhappy former 415 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: patients to keep them quiet. But soon the state of 416 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: Kansas got involved. Their investigation uncovered even more shadiness, and 417 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: on June his license to broadcast radio was canceled by 418 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: a three to two vote. Now, Caitlin, I bet you're 419 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: thinking that this was canceled because of all the people 420 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: that he got sick and that he killed with his 421 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: his hack medicine and random prescriptions and bad surgery, you think, 422 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: And that's why he lost his radio license. I would 423 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: imagine so, but no, no, you're wrong. Uh. The reason 424 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: they wound up anceling his licensees because he used the 425 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: words erection and climax on the air. Oh yep, So 426 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: it's all about censorship. Yeah, that's that's what I scept 427 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: to get him off the air. They were fine with 428 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: all the people he killed, but he was talking about 429 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: climaxes and that can't have that hard penis on the radio, Okay, 430 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: let alone talking about like he talked about women's orgasms, 431 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: which you know I peer was not allowed pioneered when 432 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: feminist icon John Brinkley. Now, I mean also, you know, 433 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: I didn't even mention this because there's so much to 434 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: go over. His wife was a fake doctor too. She 435 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: had a fake diploma from the same fake school he didn't. 436 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: So he really, he really was a paragon of women's equality. Wow. 437 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: And wasn't she because you said that she was practicing midwiffrey. 438 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: She did that for a while. Once he started putting 439 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: test coals and people, she got into the whole cutting 440 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: open people and shoving balls inside of them too, So 441 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: so she was doing the same thing Yeah, she was 442 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: very much a full partner in his enterprise. Interesting, it 443 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: seemed to have really really been a match made in heaven. 444 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean John and Many, John and Many just shoving 445 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: balls into balls and lying on the radio. Six weeks 446 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: after losing Yeah, it is, it is. It's it's a 447 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: tale as old as time, a song as old as rhyme, 448 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: beauty and the guy who shoves balls into balls m hm. 449 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: Six weeks after losing his radio license, the Kansas Board 450 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: of Medical Examiners can feened to discuss revoking John Brinkley's 451 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: medical license. The trial was something of a circus side show. 452 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: Happy Goat Gland recipients were paid to do handstands outside 453 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: of the court for the press in order to prove 454 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: something I guess. Meanwhile, in the courtroom, prosecutors brought in 455 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: a steady stream of horribly injured patients. Here's the book 456 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Charlatan again. Charles Eigenharth sixties said that instead of stitching 457 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: him up properly after a prostate operation, Brinkley had plugged 458 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: the bleeding wound with a piece of rubber boot heel 459 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: and sent him on his way. Grant Eden, caretaker of 460 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: a state park, had come in on the same bush 461 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: as John's honor. He too got the works, after which 462 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: he could barely move. When he later wrote to complain, 463 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: Brinkley replied with a note describing the hunting trip he 464 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: had just returned from, ending with your condition as your 465 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: own fault, wishing you a merry Christmas. There was testimony 466 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: from Robert Carroll, brother of Karamattox, whose vivid account of 467 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: Brinkley's gun play at the clinic had already run on 468 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: the star. I smelled whiskey on his breath. Carol said 469 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: he opened a desk, dur took out a revolver and 470 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: told me my sister would not come out of that 471 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: hospital except over his dead body unless he was paid 472 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars more. Carol and his brother had returned 473 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: with guns of their own and rescued her wild West 474 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: style from the building. Which that's that's a movie right there. 475 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: He's right, he's making so much money, the fact that 476 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: he is, Like, but I knew that extra hundred dollars. 477 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that is not the worst part of it, 478 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: but that a pretty bad part of that's a pretty 479 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: bad part of it. Like this lady is already sick 480 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: she's already paid for surgery that you did, probably poorly, 481 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: and you're threatening her drunk at gunpoint. Amazing doctor, Amazing doctor. 482 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: The trial ended with John Brinkley inviting the board to 483 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: his Milford hospital to watch him perform a gland operation 484 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: so he could prove that he was in fact a 485 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: real doctor. They agreed, and the horrifying spectacle of him 486 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: cutting into somebody convinced them to finally revoke his medical license. Now, 487 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: not a doctor, Brinkley realized. Not a doctor. Brinkley realized 488 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: that the only way to get his medical license back 489 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: was become governor of the state of Kansas. Yeah, that's 490 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: where his mind went next. They took away his license, 491 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: so he was like, well, I guess I'll be the 492 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: fucking governor. So he ran what would become one of 493 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: the most successful write in campaigns in all of American history. 494 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: His platform is that he was being persecuted by the A, 495 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: M A and fat cat politician, and it went over 496 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: like gangbusters with the uneducated masses, as did has promised 497 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to fill the countryside with free clinics and cure everyone's 498 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: illnesses with goat testicles. Both the Republican and Democratic parties 499 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: had to work together to stop his candidacy. The only 500 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: succeeded by instituting a strict rule that votes for John 501 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: Brinkley could only be counted if his name was spelled 502 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: a certain way j R. Brinkley, j period R. Period 503 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: Brinkley to be exact, votes for John Brinkley or just J. R. 504 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Brinkley would not be counted. John Brinkley came in third 505 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: place in the election, the number of ballots that were 506 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: discarded for improperly spelling his name would have been more 507 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: than enough to win him. The election was so close 508 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: that the Republican candidate, who lost to the Democrat by 509 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: only two votes refused to contest the election or even 510 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: ask for a recount. Because every politician in the country 511 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: was so fucking terrified about what would happen if John 512 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Brinkley were to win the governorship. That is wild. He 513 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: was so bad he got the Republican and Democratic party 514 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: to work together. Okay, Now, by this point most men 515 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: would have probably retired to enjoy their millions of dollars, 516 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: but John Brinkley was not a quitter. In nineteen thirty one, 517 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: he moved to the border town of Del Rio Texas 518 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: and got a license from the Mexican government to build 519 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: a radio station on their side of the border. Under 520 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the radio station named x e ER, he continued to 521 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: campaign for governor of Kansas. In nineteen thirty two, he 522 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: came in third place, again, still the best showing by 523 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: an independent candidate in gubernatorial history. He tried once more 524 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty four, but by that point he'd been 525 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: gone from Kansas long enough that his star had faded. 526 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: But Brinkley found himself liking living on the Texas border anyway. 527 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: He was able to practice medicine in Del Rio because then, 528 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: as now, there were no rules in southern Texas. He 529 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: was also able to upgrade his radio station in nineteen 530 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: thirty five, now under the name x e r A 531 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: or Zara, he upgraded his broadcasting station to an absolutely 532 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: fucking insane one million watts, by far the most powerful 533 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: radio transmitter on the fucking planet. For comparison, tho with 534 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: powerful modern A M radio transmitters in the modern United 535 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: States are fifty thou watts. People in Canada were able 536 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: to tune in and clearly listen to John Brinkley's hours 537 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: of broadcasts. Okay, yeah, pretty pretty pretty great. How does 538 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: he have time for everything he's doing. He's doing these 539 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: radio shows, he's building radio stations, he's practicing medicine, he's 540 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: getting drunk apparently all the time. He's camping. Like he's fine. 541 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: He's like inventing, not inventing, but like he is helping 542 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: to like make country music, you know, spread it to 543 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: the masses. Of what he's doing is just talking on 544 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: the radio, and he loves hearing himself talk, So he's 545 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: all he's really doing is spending like nine hours a 546 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: day talking on the radio. And that's that's enough to 547 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: accomplish most of his goals. Okay, well, I gotta give 548 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: it to him. I gotta give it to him. You don't, don't. 549 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: He shouldn't do not at all. He already got an 550 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: awful lot given to him. Yes, now, Caitlin, I know 551 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: what you're thinking right now. I think you're thinking. The 552 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: only thing that goes better then, thoughts of Mexican radio 553 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: stations are podcast as. That one was not a good transition. 554 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: I knew it had gotten away from me when I 555 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: started it. But you know, that's the time it is. 556 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: It's time for an ad break. Nothing nothing, Oh, I'm 557 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: so sorry. I thought that lift me up here. Come on, 558 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: I completely agree that it's time for an ad break, 559 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: and I think your transition is actually really flawless. Thank you, 560 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: thank you for saying the truth about my flawless transition. 561 00:30:49,840 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: You're welcome, products We're back now, Caitlin. A million watts 562 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: I think sounds like a lot, because it is a lot. 563 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: But I want people at home to understand how fucking 564 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: ridiculously powerful John Brinkley's radio transmitter was. So I'm going 565 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: to read another quote from the book, Border Blaster quote. 566 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: People living near the station did not even need a 567 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: radio to enjoy the Great Healer's messages. Del Rio residence, 568 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: talking on the phone heard the doctor's mallifluous voice asking 569 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: such questions as how many of you suffer from gas indigestion, 570 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: bloat and belching and chronic appendicitis. Ranchers were startled to 571 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: find their fences electrified by the high powered broadcasts of 572 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: hillbilly performers and fortune tellers. Some residents said they even 573 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: picked up the station and the fillings of their teeth, 574 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: or received vibrations of it on their hot water heaters. 575 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: At eight forty kill cycles, powerful Zerra brushed aside the 576 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: signals of w w L and New Orleans and k 577 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: o A and Denver as if there were ninety eight 578 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: watt weaklings. A Variety reporter in New York said that 579 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: he could hear xc R A regularly, and a Philadelphia 580 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: resident said that he had trouble getting anything but Dr 581 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: Brinkley's station on his family's radio set. Why they don't 582 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: do million wat radio stations so much that so he 583 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: had he had the most powerful one with like the 584 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: widest range. How did he get that or did he 585 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: build it? He just spent a lot of money. Yeah, 586 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: he spent He hired really good engineers and spent a 587 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: shipload of money because he wanted fucking everybody to be 588 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: able to hear him. God, it's just the people the 589 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: most money are the people who should not have any money. 590 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I think a lot of it, a 591 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: lot of it comes down to dick's Caitlin. He got 592 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: rich by selling people a cure all for their dick problems, 593 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: which he said was, you know, goat testicles. But for him, 594 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: his dick was having the most powerful radio tower in 595 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: the world, right, That's what he needed to feel verrile Um. 596 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: And that makes sense. I mean a radio tower. I 597 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that looks like, but I imagine 598 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: it is being pretty phallic, So yeah, you'd have to 599 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: so it's a tower, right, yeah. Now, John Brinkley used 600 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: his unprecedented soapbox to harangue the A M A and 601 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: sling snake oil. As he got older and Goat Gland 602 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: operations fell from favor, he moved on to thousand dollars 603 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: vasectomes and increasingly he waited into politics. You see. John 604 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: Brinkley hated him some Franklin, Delano Roosevelt. He also found 605 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: himself increasingly enamored with a little known German politician by 606 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: the name of Adolph Hitler. Oh yeah, yeah. He went 607 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: to Germany for the thirty six Olympics and uh and 608 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: loved it. Loved love seeing what Hitler had done to Germany. 609 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Thought it was pretty cool place, pretty pretty neat place. 610 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: He hosted some other people who have been on this 611 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: podcast on his radio show. Father Coughlin was a guest. 612 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: American Fewer and head of the German American Booned. Fritz 613 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: Coon was a guest. William Pelly, founder of the Silver Shirts, 614 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: All of these people were guests on x c r A. 615 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: Brinkley even donated five thousand dollars to the Silver Shirts, 616 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: which were an American fascist movement. Now, a lot of 617 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: this had to do with Brinkley's increasingly virulent empty Semitism, 618 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: much of which had grown from the fact that his nemesis, Dr. 619 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: Fishbean was a Jewish Man, but a lot of it 620 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: also came from his hatred of Communism. So you know, 621 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: it's a mix of both. He doesn't like Jewish people, 622 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't like communism. Maybe he thinks they're both the 623 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: same thing, like most Nazis. Did I mean, I guess 624 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: if that's your stance, fascism looks pretty good. Yeah, he said, 625 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: stuff like war is the communist delight he mixes It's 626 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: bitter broth for the sweet lips of your boy. I 627 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: would deport every radical who preferred the gleam of warlike 628 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: Mars to the soft amber light of the Bethlehem Orb. 629 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: He should have been a poet with his don't put balls, 630 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: don't put goatballs, and people right now people words. Gosh. 631 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: John Brinkley in the late thirties added swastikas to the 632 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: title of his swim wing pool and became a prominent 633 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: advocate of isolationism. In one he ran for the Texas Senate. 634 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, this was the same year he lost 635 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: a libel suit against the A. M. A, faced investigation 636 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: from the State Department and the I. R. S UH, 637 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: and was charged by the Post Office with mail fraud. Uh. 638 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: There was some worry that even with all this he 639 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: might still win. A writer for the Emporia Gazette wrote 640 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: about this this about his Senate run quote, he will 641 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: appeal to the hillbilly mind, as it has never been 642 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: lured before. He is irresistible to the moron mind, and 643 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: Texas has plenty of such. Perhaps that is unfair, very 644 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: likely Texas has no more morons than Kansas. So, while 645 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: pointing with pride to the fact that Kansas escaped the 646 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: doctor's clutches, we view with alarm for the United States 647 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: the danger which impends in Texas. If this Republic ever 648 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: totters to its fall, it will be because the moron 649 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: minority shall, sometime somewhere, somehow gain a party majority by 650 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: unscrupulous leadership. Mm hmm. I mean that has to explain 651 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: why he got so successful in the first place. Right, 652 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: just you know, uneducated people being like I want my 653 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: dick to work better, and then my dick to work better, 654 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: and I like the way he talks. And then despite 655 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: all of the stories of him, you know, being a 656 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: drunken disaster and killing people with the surgeries he's performing, 657 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: everyone's just like, well, I mean, I'm gonna still give him. 658 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, what, was it seven and fifty dollars for 659 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: this seven fifty bucks? Well, I want those goatballs. That's 660 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: discouraging now. Luckily for America, this time, the Mexican government 661 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: got fed up with Brinkley, and in nineteen forty one 662 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: they made an agreement with the US government to cut 663 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: out renegade stations like x ci A, denying Brinkley his 664 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: main platform. Just as the government came crashing down on 665 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: his head that May of nineteen forty two, he was poor, sick, 666 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: and dying. He developed a blood clot and had several 667 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: heart attacks and had to have his leg amputated. He 668 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: died on May nineteen forty two, almost penniless. His last 669 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: words were, a poor it to have been. If Dr 670 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: Fishbean goes to heaven, I want to go the other way. Now, wait, 671 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: hang on, did he when he when he was his 672 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: health dying failing? Yeah, did he put goat balls in himself? 673 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: He did not? Shockingly, Yeah, you know, you'd really, you 674 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: really would think that he would have tried that. That 675 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: obvious here, all right, Yeah he did not. I mean 676 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: goes to show that it would. I mean a doctor 677 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: that won't do his own procedure on himself, you can't 678 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: trust that guy. That's exactly right. If you're gonna put 679 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: goatballs in me, you'd better be putting goatballs in you. 680 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: I've said that. I've said that for years, so he 681 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: can back me up. That's that's long been my my catchphrase. Um. Now, 682 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Dr Brinkley's influence would live on in bad and good ways. 683 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: The bad is very obvious. He horribly injured and killed 684 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: hundreds of patients, maybe more. He claimed to have carried 685 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: out more than sixteen thousand goat gland operations, so God 686 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: only knows like the total health act of his work, 687 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 1: and all those poor goats, sixty goats goats. He also 688 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: single handedly created the idea of selling sham medicine to 689 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: sick people over the radio, a terrible business that continues 690 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: to this day. But John Brinkley also helped launch country 691 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: music as a genre. His million watt station broadcast that 692 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: music to impressionable young minds across the entire nation for years, 693 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: helping to spread it out of the fairly niche areas 694 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: that had occupied prior to Brinkley's advent. Some of his 695 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: early listeners included, according to the book Charlatan Quote, Chet Atkins, 696 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: a teenager in Columbus, Georgia who turned into x Cirara 697 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: on a battery powered radio he built from mail order parts. 698 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: Waylon Jennings, a youngster in Littlefield, Texas, whose daddy ran 699 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: a cable from his truck battery to the house so 700 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: the family could listen to x C. A Tom Hall, 701 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: future songwriter and ballotire in Oliveville, Kentucky. Johnny Cash in 702 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: d s, Arkansas, who first heard his future bride, June Carter, 703 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: then aged ten, singing over Brinkley's airwaves. Wow, so it 704 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't all bad. So it was actually a pretty good guy. 705 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, thousands and thousands of people horribly 706 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: horribly injured and hobbled for life and killed from bad operations. 707 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: Uh and and medical treatment's gonna ry and spreading of 708 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: fascism over the air waves. But Johnny Cash, But Johnny Cash, 709 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: But Johnny Cash, small place Jennings, Yeah, small price to pay. 710 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean for Whalen Jennings and Johnny Cash. And I'm 711 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: not a big fan of Tom Haller chet Atkins, but 712 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: other people like him. So I don't know any of 713 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: those people except for Johnny Cash. So everybody knows Johnny Cash. 714 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: Everybody knows Johnny Cash. Yeah, so that's the story. That's 715 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: John fucking Brinkley. Well, I feel enlightened. I could feel 716 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: like I mean, I feel like I've just had some 717 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: goatballs put in into my gonad areas good just to 718 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: say that I feel great, Um wow. I mean a 719 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: very ambitious guide, as you said at the beginning. Um. 720 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: And I mean, I I hate that I'm impressed with 721 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: all these horrible people, but they accomplish a lot. I'm 722 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: not impressed. I'm horrified. But I mean, I don't know 723 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. I just you know what, 724 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: here's what I'm trying to say. Fuck John Brinkley, the end. 725 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: Fuck John Brinkley the end. If you're feeling sick, though, 726 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: maybe do grind up a bunch of goat testicles and 727 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: shoot them up your ass with a syringee. You can't 728 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: forget about that rectal syrenge, can't forget about that rectal syringe. 729 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that modern medicine is what it is today. 730 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: And that's not to say that our you know, medical 731 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: industry isn't very broken, because it is. But um, you know, 732 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm just glad that uh there, you know, 733 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: goatball uh insertion isn't a thing anymore. To my knowledge, 734 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd felt myself saying I'm glad that 735 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: when Alex Jones sells people medicine over the radio, it's 736 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: just a little bit of lead and sugar powder and pillform. 737 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: At least it's not ground up nuts or like real 738 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: medicine that you're giving to the wrong people so that 739 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: they have horrible, uh physical reactions to it, right and 740 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: marked up at an insane price. Yeah, and when you're 741 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: when you're the guy who makes me look at Alex 742 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Jones and be like, well, compared to that, he's he's 743 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: pretty ethical. Like, you know, you've got a real bastard 744 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: on your hands. Yeah, you know, you've got a real 745 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: piece of sh it on your hands and uh and 746 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: John Brinkley was a real piece of ship. Yes, indeed, Caitlin, 747 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: you got some plug doubles to plug you bet. You 748 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: can follow my radio station in which I you know, 749 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: spread uh, feminist iconery and not the bad stuff that 750 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: John Brinkley was spreading. Uh. And that's all to say. 751 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: Listen to my podcasts, the Bechtel Cast that I co 752 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: host with Jamie Loftus and we talked about the representation 753 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: of women in movies. And then you can and that's 754 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: spelled b E C H D E L. Just in 755 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: case you didn't know. You can follow me personally on 756 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter at Caitlyn Durant taste A T. Graham 757 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: that's right. And uh, yeah, I could check out my 758 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: website Caitlin dront dot com. There's some you know, show 759 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: dates and and and stuff like that. But yeah, that's 760 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: that's it. Check out Caitlyn Duranty. Check out Caitlyn Durant 761 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at I right, Okay, do you like that, Klin? 762 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: That that that working for you? I loved it excellent. Uh. 763 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: You can check out this podcast on the web at 764 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards dot com where we'll have the sources 765 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 1: for this episode, including the fantastic book charlatan Um. And 766 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the we We sell shirts to public 767 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: dot com. We have another podcast it could happen here 768 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: about the Civil War, bad stuff. That's it until next week. 769 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans. Don't inject goat glands into your asshole. 770 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't do it.