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Speaker 1: Hey, so, welcome to another episode a Horrible Decision. You're
Speaker 1: white boys, I mean it was closed, it wasn't bike.
Speaker 2: I'm like on a huh.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I wanted to mow them because we have someone
Speaker 1: who moans as well, so I just wanted to do that. Anyways, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of horror. This is yos.
Speaker 3: I'm your girl maybe b aka pet de Sign aka
Speaker 3: full cor Posts aka Debt bitch.
Speaker 1: Y'all, it's weezy we're back for another episode. Today, we
Speaker 1: have a guest that we met at the a b NS.
Speaker 1: And what's crazy about this guest is that Mandy and
Speaker 1: I were literally looking through categories on like who to interview,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like sharing them with my boo or.
Speaker 2: Whatever, not even sharing them wear her boo. She's sending
Speaker 2: them to me.
Speaker 1: Well you were both, y'all. Yeah, so and Yoe was
Speaker 1: literally one of them, but I think it just didn't
Speaker 1: work out because we end up getting Nicole Kit and Mia.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're in line and this bitch asked my
Speaker 1: man the whole sme. I'm like, and and way it
Speaker 1: turns around is like, bitch, I know you no, but like,
Speaker 1: it's so cool to go to the av AND Awards
Speaker 1: and actually see people that you, you know, follow online.
Speaker 1: That's so dope. And one of the things you said
Speaker 1: to us in line, Julie you were I was like,
Speaker 1: I hope you get to win. She was like, even
Speaker 1: if it's not me, it better be a real BBW.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's literally what she said. I did say that.
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, we have Julie Ginger in the
Speaker 1: motherfucking buildings. Julie Ginger real bb tell us what you
Speaker 1: meant by that, because all right, look, there there are
Speaker 1: levels to this ship.
Speaker 2: When it comes to bbw's right, you've got your smaller baby,
Speaker 2: you know, like they they got that little puge, they
Speaker 2: got that little like small like crease, and then just
Speaker 2: like not not a belly, that's a little BBW. And
Speaker 2: then you actually, you know, like mid size that has
Speaker 2: a little more, and then you're big, and then you're big, big, big,
Speaker 2: you know, and they just keep going up and up
Speaker 2: and up. The girl who won no shade, congratulations alex
Speaker 2: As always.
Speaker 1: Where do you where do you place her?
Speaker 2: She is just on that fucking cusp of not being
Speaker 2: a BBW, oh, which I'll say not being so she's
Speaker 2: She's gained a little since I've seen I've gained a.
Speaker 1: Little, which is crazy because even in the fashion world,
Speaker 1: like they now have plus nized models, but it's more
Speaker 1: of that like their toe You're twelve act was probably
Speaker 1: the biggest plus side model I've seen.
Speaker 2: I've seen some new ones come out lately. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: When that page came out, I was like, oh, now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I still in my opinion, I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's sting still kind of flat, but she was big,
Speaker 1: bigger arms, like even height, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, let's be very clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all have been listening to this podcast. That's the
Speaker 1: very beginning.
Speaker 3: I stood in my BBW motherfucking realm, and as soon
Speaker 3: as I started losing my weight after Gastig, they said, oh, yeah, girl,
Speaker 3: you're no longer BBW. Like as I was posting my
Speaker 3: body positivity posts, they.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh no, bitch, we kicked you out. You're
Speaker 1: not BBW anymore.
Speaker 3: I remember during the I remember during the pandemic actually
Speaker 3: going on clubhouse and there was a BBW room and
Speaker 3: I got put on stage and there was plus size
Speaker 3: influencers that literally was like, yeah, no, we don't even
Speaker 3: know why you're up here. No more, you don't count
Speaker 3: anymore type shit. And I'm like, bitch, you got me
Speaker 3: fucked up. Mind you Still every fucking of the week
Speaker 3: people are talking about my weight if they're watching.
Speaker 2: On YouTube or all those things.
Speaker 3: So I want to I want to lean back into
Speaker 3: porn specifically, and even you as a BBW porn star
Speaker 3: or content creative, We're going to get into your content.
Speaker 3: Why do you feel that way about bbw's because I
Speaker 3: did also peep you pulled all the real BBWs to
Speaker 3: take a picture. And after we did the red carpet,
Speaker 3: Weisey and I looked over and you could tell the
Speaker 3: group of women that took a picture, we're all like
Speaker 3: the real BBWs.
Speaker 2: What does that kind of uh family or sisterhood look
Speaker 2: like in the sex world space? It's hard. Actually, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people who don't like a lot of
Speaker 2: other people, and I think that just comes from I
Speaker 2: think in any entertainment industry, you're not gonna like everybody, right,
Speaker 2: So it really comes down to just like when you
Speaker 2: meet them in their journey in the industry, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting because like, let's say, for instance, myself,
Speaker 2: I'll talk about my my little journey. I wasn't the
Speaker 2: most likable person back in my early stages. I had
Speaker 2: to learn some shit, why what made you unlikable? Because
Speaker 2: I was I was kind of being that pick me girl.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hey, why aren't you working with me? Why
Speaker 2: why are you working with these other bbw's but you
Speaker 2: won't work with me? Pick me I'm here, you know,
Speaker 2: like that type of else.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I would say everything, but why are
Speaker 1: you working with them and not me? But what's wrong
Speaker 1: with asking someone.
Speaker 2: For some people? Because some people don't know how to
Speaker 2: say no or even respond too. So as a BBW,
Speaker 2: I feel like I have such a limited pool of
Speaker 2: people to work with as a as a creator. Right,
Speaker 2: But back to you know, like the you know why
Speaker 2: girls don't get along? It's just their personalities don't match,
Speaker 2: or they hear something so that it's all hearsay. And
Speaker 2: so what I really try to do as someone who
Speaker 2: has had that happen to me, I just try to say, hey, look,
Speaker 2: you want to get to know me, then get to
Speaker 2: know me. Don't go buy off of what somebody else
Speaker 2: was said or what my actions were five years ago.
Speaker 2: I've grown, I'm different. I'm not the same that I was.
Speaker 2: Better know, they don't let bitches grow. They don't let I've.
Speaker 1: Done grow speaking, I'm still growing. I do want to know,
Speaker 1: how is your weight fluctuated since starting porn? And when
Speaker 1: it has, how's the money changed? Oh?
Speaker 2: You know what, Honestly, I don't even think it's so
Speaker 2: much about how much my weight is fluctuated. It's actually
Speaker 2: how hard I put my work into my business. It's
Speaker 2: not even about my weight most of the time. Like
Speaker 2: I have guys that wanted me to be a feedie,
Speaker 2: which means I'll eat, eat, eat right and grow grow grow.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: I also had the gastic surgery, but I wasn't as
Speaker 2: successful as you have been, which which Gastrick, did you
Speaker 2: leave you had to.
Speaker 1: Sleep as well? Yeah, my mom just had it, and
Speaker 1: I think even on tour, so many of our fans
Speaker 1: have chosen to have it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's not the easiest things psychologically.
Speaker 1: At all, Like, yeah, when did you do it?
Speaker 2: I did it in twenty fifteen, so this is two
Speaker 2: years pre prior to getting into the industry. So I
Speaker 2: was in a marriage. I was happy, be I'm gonna
Speaker 2: quotate that because it wasn't happy at the end.
Speaker 1: Obviously it was not divorced, but have good relationship that
Speaker 1: in she says, just call what it is, Okay, call
Speaker 1: it what it is.
Speaker 2: I was happy, I was happy, but when I decided
Speaker 2: to do the surgery for myself, just so I can
Speaker 2: maybe even be more happier, okay, right, because I was
Speaker 2: having a hard time moving around and going out down
Speaker 2: the stairs, like I was really finny. Although now it's hard,
Speaker 2: but it's not as hard as it was because I'm
Speaker 2: like one hundred pounds lighter. Oh wow, Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: have gained back. I actually lost almost one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty pounds.
Speaker 3: So can you not say that your surgery was then unsuccessful,
Speaker 3: because that is a feat in itself.
Speaker 1: You lost the whole human being I did.
Speaker 2: I lost a whole lot of weigh and have gained though.
Speaker 2: But the fluctuation part is it does. It comes with emotions,
Speaker 2: it comes with situations that happen in the industry or
Speaker 2: even in my life in general. But I have such
Speaker 2: a close, deep like connection to my work that it's
Speaker 2: almost just all the same. It's just all big one.
Speaker 2: I'm mean, what do you mean you.
Speaker 1: Have a deep connection. I don't mean that in a
Speaker 1: condescending way. I mean, like, I've heard one other person
Speaker 1: that works in like content adult contecreations that like, I'm
Speaker 1: just so connected to my work, and I'm laughing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you what you.
Speaker 2: Do honestly, Well, honestly, I just I love what I do.
Speaker 2: And when I when I love what I do, you
Speaker 2: can see it on camera. You can see it. It resonates
Speaker 2: through all my work.
Speaker 1: Does it make you feel mean, what do you love
Speaker 1: about it? Do you does it make you feel just
Speaker 1: super sexy? Do you love? I just love.
Speaker 2: I just love being able to fuck all these men
Speaker 2: and women and just have a good time. It's my
Speaker 2: only life that I get to live in this life,
Speaker 2: can I ask? So I'm gonna live it and have
Speaker 2: fun with it.
Speaker 3: So, so two years before you started your content creation journey,
Speaker 3: you got the gastric sleeve, you lost the weight, but
Speaker 3: then also got into content creation as a BBW.
Speaker 2: I was still a BBWs two hundred and ninety pounds.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like leaning into the BBW category
Speaker 1: also kept you maybe from losing more of that weight?
Speaker 2: Probably definitely, because I think I wanted to make sure
Speaker 2: that I was the audience and my audience and your
Speaker 2: audience that wanted you.
Speaker 3: Like, I think that that's the hard part.
Speaker 1: Like it's so weird because you have society. But also
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 3: Say, other women, more than anything, make you feel as
Speaker 3: though you're unworthy of love or being fucked.
Speaker 1: You feeling the most from that's a good thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like do you feel it more for men or women?
Speaker 1: When it's like what do you mean? Like just like
Speaker 1: overall making you feel like your weight is too much
Speaker 1: or hearn's way anything to me.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's honestly for me. I get a
Speaker 2: lot of hate from men, really I do. I get
Speaker 2: a lot of like really bad comments on my techotox,
Speaker 2: in my in my Instagram reels. I get some nasty one.
Speaker 3: So publicly met Yes, absolutely, yes, personally it was women.
Speaker 3: So it was women that when they found out I
Speaker 3: was fucking the same men as them. The men would
Speaker 3: tell me what these women would say about me, Oh,
Speaker 3: they made it seem as though I should be lucky
Speaker 3: I'm fucking or they couldn't believe that the man that
Speaker 3: they were fucking was fucking.
Speaker 1: Me because oh my god, ill you like that?
Speaker 3: And so personally, women, anytime they didn't like me, it
Speaker 3: was always my weight, yes, my first attack and then
Speaker 3: everything else, but my weight was always the number one
Speaker 3: attack from women on a personal level.
Speaker 1: Again on the internet.
Speaker 2: Yet, right, men, no, I could say, you know for sure,
Speaker 2: now that I think back to it, You're right. Women
Speaker 2: do also have that vicious attack, like Eric, why are
Speaker 2: you You're You're not supposed to have this hot ass man.
Speaker 2: I have a story time with Julie, really quick, Come on,
Speaker 2: we want to hear about a recent story too. Give
Speaker 2: it to a fine ass man lives in Vegas. Oh girl,
Speaker 2: let me tell you. When I a fine I mean
Speaker 2: describe him six six muscular, he's like caramel tatted or
Speaker 2: tatted up, big dick or not. Yes, well he lied,
Speaker 2: he lied about something, and I'm not gonna a big liar.
Speaker 1: How dare you?
Speaker 2: So I'm waiting for him to come down to his
Speaker 2: his building to come get me so he can go
Speaker 2: up because I don't have access obviously like that. It
Speaker 2: was in a nice place. Well, now you got money too,
Speaker 2: let's go. He's hot, Okay, I'm sorry, that's a god damn.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm waiting and there's this this, this skinny girl,
Speaker 2: and she's waiting for her friend. So her friend comes in.
Speaker 2: I'm just chit, just nice. I'm a pleasant person. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't give off bad vibes.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, how you doing? Oh yeah cool?
Speaker 2: You yeah, you visited?
Speaker 1: Cool? You know you're just.
Speaker 2: Trying to make conversation. He he That elevator door opens.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just flashed back for a second. The
Speaker 2: elevator door opens and He's standing there shirtless with these
Speaker 2: just semi short shorts on, just looking fucking Oh. My
Speaker 2: heart started raising. I looked at him, he looked at me.
Speaker 2: They looked at him because they stopped because they were
Speaker 2: before me. I let them go first.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know you.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he was coming down like that though.
Speaker 4: Girls uh huh uh.
Speaker 2: They walk in and I walk around, and he comes
Speaker 2: straight to me and wraps his arms around me and
Speaker 2: kisses me. And these girls were appalled. They were you
Speaker 2: felt the judgment.
Speaker 1: Oh, I felt the judgment. Hardcore?
Speaker 2: Wow, hardcore, and we both him and I both looked
Speaker 2: at each other and just burst out laughing after they
Speaker 2: got off the elevator. I love that he felt that
Speaker 2: they were looking.
Speaker 1: He was like damn. He's like, damn.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that they were going to react like that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, do you realize how hot you are?
Speaker 2: And do you realize who I what I look like.
Speaker 2: They don't see that. They don't see that that's a
Speaker 2: possible thing, that this man can be attracted to me
Speaker 2: and want me over your skinny ass.
Speaker 1: You know I did. He did a guy that was
Speaker 1: super skinny, maybe like like that scrawnny with whis Kalifa
Speaker 1: used to look like. And he told me that when
Speaker 1: he had dated bbwi's in the past, I was like,
Speaker 1: is this fucked up? Or is it No?
Speaker 2: Let's be very clear, the skinnier the nigga, the bigger
Speaker 2: the bitch.
Speaker 1: He told me, I don't like being out with women
Speaker 1: that no one expects me to be out with. He's like,
Speaker 1: I love it. He's like, I love girls staring at me.
Speaker 1: I like niggas looking at me like I'm wrong. And
Speaker 1: he's like, he's like, it's something about it, Like I like,
Speaker 1: I just I'm out with someone they don't expect me.
Speaker 2: But also loves me.
Speaker 1: Very clear that skinny niggas.
Speaker 3: Don't want to start a fire with y'all tweeg as
Speaker 3: bitch it. They want a little loving, a little more
Speaker 3: cush push.
Speaker 1: Now they found that when you're dating these dudes and
Speaker 1: or fucking them or whatever, it happens. Uh. We had
Speaker 1: an episode recently about trans women and with trans women
Speaker 1: and they were talking about feeling hidden and one of
Speaker 1: my friends, who is BBW, was like, girl, I felt
Speaker 1: so triggered because I feel like I have so many
Speaker 1: dudes that want to fuck me and we don't go
Speaker 1: out anywhere together. Have you experienced that recently or just
Speaker 1: any time in your past and tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as as someone of my status now,
Speaker 2: I get a lot of people trying to you know,
Speaker 2: hit me up, take me out, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: And I'm very.
Speaker 2: Selective about who I do that with just because I
Speaker 2: can be right. But when I have, you know, like
Speaker 2: allowed that to happen, sometimes I feel like I do
Speaker 2: get judged a lot, you know, for being out with
Speaker 2: somebody who's you know, really hot, or even if they're not, Like,
Speaker 2: I still get looked at because I'm a big girl.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't get to not get looked at even when
Speaker 2: I'm walking.
Speaker 1: Even when I'm.
Speaker 2: Walking, like just anywhere I can be walking around New York,
Speaker 2: people are looking at me.
Speaker 1: I know they are. Have you I do I do
Speaker 1: in a relationship where you knew it was just sexual
Speaker 1: but that you guys didn't go out in public or
Speaker 1: oh for sure? I think that.
Speaker 2: I think that because of uh And I mean that's
Speaker 2: this is recent. That's even with the six with six dude,
Speaker 2: we've gone out and he's also gotten scrutinized when we've
Speaker 2: been out together these women to his face, yes, wait
Speaker 2: with me sitting there in the in this club we
Speaker 2: went to after Hours.
Speaker 1: I love the stories.
Speaker 2: Let's go, and we went to after Hours. I'm with him.
Speaker 2: This is one of the first times he really like
Speaker 2: hung out, like outside of the bedroom.
Speaker 1: Right. And so.
Speaker 2: We're sitting there, I'm eating food, He's rubbing up on
Speaker 2: me's touching on me, like making me feel like I'm
Speaker 2: the best goddamn thing out there.
Speaker 1: Right, It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And these women, this older woman had said to him,
Speaker 2: without me hearing, you really don't have to be doing that.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be selling your body, you don't
Speaker 2: have to be doing this. They thought I paid him.
Speaker 1: They thought I was paying him to be with me.
Speaker 1: Do you know who the fuck I am? Right right?
Speaker 1: I thought he was a jiggalo.
Speaker 2: They thought that you yes, yes, when it was nothing
Speaker 2: but mutual fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And after that he said, hey, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1: He was mad.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm total turned off he's and then
Speaker 2: we just fucked for a long time.
Speaker 1: How I feel like you've probably heard it all, But
Speaker 1: when you hear it all, are you at this point
Speaker 1: where like you can be blind to the bullshit.
Speaker 2: I try to be because I don't want it to
Speaker 2: to make my life unhappy. I don't. I don't want
Speaker 2: to listen to the naysayers or the people who have
Speaker 2: negative things to say. You know, I try to live
Speaker 2: my life in a positive way. I really really do.
Speaker 2: Back five years ago, not so much because I was
Speaker 2: trying to figure out who I was in this industry
Speaker 2: and even just as a person. And so over these
Speaker 2: last five years, I've definitely grown and changed and just
Speaker 2: don't listen to the bullshit and the negative things anymore.
Speaker 2: And so when I go out with someone that's that hot,
Speaker 2: I stand on my shit. I have that confidence now now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wanted I didn't have it.
Speaker 1: I want to wait. I wanted to ask you though,
Speaker 1: when you were talking about people staring at you. We
Speaker 1: see a lot of content now surrounding people. Just I
Speaker 1: feel like there's this weird Okay, have you seen the
Speaker 1: girl that got on the airplane and was trying to
Speaker 1: act like people were looking at her? She was wearing leggings.
Speaker 2: And it feels like she's that really tiny yes, but
Speaker 2: huge wide ass.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I can't fit and
Speaker 1: da da da da. People are making content like that,
Speaker 1: almost like they're trying to get you to like set
Speaker 1: of celebrating the business bigness. It's weird. But what I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you was things like that. On an airplane,
Speaker 1: where are people making you feel the most uncomfortable?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've I've thankfully found an airline that gives
Speaker 2: me a free extra seat so I don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about being judged trying to get past people. I
Speaker 2: used to feel really uncomfortable in an airplane. We're talking
Speaker 2: what airing is that?
Speaker 1: Southwest?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, really they have for a person of size,
Speaker 2: complimentary seat and I spill over most certainly, I do
Speaker 2: so having someone and I've I've unfortunately been in that
Speaker 2: situation where I'm I'm I'm all.
Speaker 1: Like this, it's very uncomfortable. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Soya, no, no, no, people don't understand, like even if
Speaker 3: you go back and watch episodes from twenty seventeen. I
Speaker 3: got my my gastric sleeve in twenty eighteen. I remember
Speaker 3: when I went out just with my coworkers, we went
Speaker 3: to six Flags. I literally couldn't fit the rides at
Speaker 3: six Flags.
Speaker 2: I had to be.
Speaker 3: Removed because they couldn't close the clamp on me. That's
Speaker 3: when I decided it was time when I couldn't ride
Speaker 3: roller coaster rides. And when people watched, they're like, you
Speaker 3: weren't that big. You don't know, you don't like, you
Speaker 3: don't understand.
Speaker 1: And I was even telling her, sure you, well, well
Speaker 1: that's the thing why people don't know well, And on
Speaker 1: five foot one, I was two thirty at my biggest
Speaker 1: do the math. They literally couldn't close it over me
Speaker 1: on the roller coaster rides. But also in terms of
Speaker 1: flying in planes, where most people are like, I want
Speaker 1: the x RO because it's more room, those are actually
Speaker 1: also the seats that don't lift up. Yep.
Speaker 3: So I remember me and my best friend one time
Speaker 3: we both went to Miami and I had the x ROW.
Speaker 3: She had something else, and I literally wanted to change
Speaker 3: with her. She didn't want to change, and she didn't
Speaker 3: realize that I literally wanted to change because I felt
Speaker 3: so squad in the exit right and I had to
Speaker 3: open to her that the little hands lifting let my
Speaker 3: hips breathe. Baby, And having that airplane experience, having the
Speaker 3: experience in the roller coasters, also living in New York
Speaker 3: where boots don't go up my leg.
Speaker 2: I have to bundle.
Speaker 3: So now I look three hundred pounds even though I'm
Speaker 3: like it was those things people don't consider when you're overweight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely, And you know what you're touching on
Speaker 2: the roller coaster aspect is really funny because that's one
Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why I want to lose weight
Speaker 2: is because I want to be able to ride a
Speaker 2: roller coaster. Again, I haven't written once since I was
Speaker 2: like sixteen, so it's.
Speaker 1: Been twenty years.
Speaker 2: Never have thought it's been twenty years since I've been
Speaker 2: on a roller coaster.
Speaker 1: Many talked about clothes a lot. We've been doing this
Speaker 1: show year, so I'm always hearing you talk about clothes, booth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did not even think.
Speaker 2: About like certain I see literally just activity or riding
Speaker 2: a horse like I love horseback riding.
Speaker 3: Haven't ridden a horse since I was a kid. Wow,
Speaker 3: you know I just bought up six flags one of
Speaker 3: my tricks. Yeah, blew me to I was Abu Dabi
Speaker 3: with one of my tricks. Once we went to uh
Speaker 3: Ferrari World, Okay, literally had to get off a ride
Speaker 3: with my We left because it wouldn't close.
Speaker 2: And they closed on him.
Speaker 1: Was so uncom It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: It's you and you get looked at and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: don't look at me, Like I don't want to. I
Speaker 2: don't want to draw attention. And that's one of the
Speaker 2: biggest things as a big person, I think that we
Speaker 2: try not to do is to draw attention. But you know,
Speaker 2: with my my look, it's not easy to not draw attention,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like I get looked
Speaker 2: at no matter where I go, so and I don't
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable much anymore because I think I've grown so
Speaker 2: used to being looked at that I just hey, it's me,
Speaker 2: take it to leave.
Speaker 3: It, get the fuck out, Like I don't care if
Speaker 3: I want to make this positive just a little bit.
Speaker 3: I want to get into our vanilla ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so no no no is a.
Speaker 3: Little positive because it's giving affirmations. We're about to get
Speaker 3: into some affirmation.
Speaker 1: I thought you wanted to bring up no, no, no oh,
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: Going to bring up the breakfast club. So so motherfuckers
Speaker 3: just got dragged. I'm only gonna mention Charlemagne, not the
Speaker 3: other person. So Charlemagne got dragged recently for bringing up
Speaker 3: or speaking about Resa Tisa, who was popular with her
Speaker 3: thing on TikTok, about her relationship with a pathological liar,
Speaker 3: and he referenced that as big back behavior. Of course,
Speaker 3: he later did apologize, called her big back but I
Speaker 3: wanted to speak about with you, No, he called, he did,
Speaker 3: he said, he said, he sounds like big back behavior, right,
Speaker 3: and then literally then the other person who shall not
Speaker 3: be mentioned, continue.
Speaker 1: Going on, called a Sheila from some goddamn show.
Speaker 3: And then literally he did apologize later because of course
Speaker 3: he is a mental health advocate.
Speaker 1: Way bitch that's looking at me? Because I hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: the tip that I saw said she's reading him.
Speaker 2: We can bleep that out. We can't say the girls
Speaker 2: on the show, that's fine, were gonna bleep the name.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's going over the story. I'm that's right, that's right. Story.
Speaker 1: And then Charletane' is listening and he's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: sounds like big bead behavior. What she looked like facts?
Speaker 1: But I didnt even hear him like look at her
Speaker 1: say no, no, no, But regardless, hold on, bro, where's
Speaker 1: the fucking line? Now? What line? He said that he
Speaker 1: didn't call her.
Speaker 2: Fat, No, he said his big back behavior.
Speaker 1: Okay. Then literally.
Speaker 3: The person next to him said she a big bag.
Speaker 3: She provided me up so it was confirmed.
Speaker 2: On the side.
Speaker 3: Then she goes a big girls Tisa goes on tammern
Speaker 3: Hall show and lets it be known that with all
Speaker 3: of this nice ouacklip, that that those words her the
Speaker 3: most coming from that platform. By the way, Charlemagne, in
Speaker 3: his due diligence, has sense apologized. Nonetheless, I want to
Speaker 3: get on you to be a little mouthy, so you know,
Speaker 3: I want to get into however, what are affirming words
Speaker 3: for plus size women or women of stature? Because I
Speaker 3: talk about it, and I did talk about it often
Speaker 3: men A few men love to call me fluffy. While
Speaker 3: we have had a guest come on and say I
Speaker 3: love fluffy, Fluffy didn't really sit too well with me.
Speaker 3: So I would love to know which words you find
Speaker 3: to be affirming in and out of the bedroom for
Speaker 3: men and women to describe a plus size.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, there's always the go to volumptuous.
Speaker 2: I feel like that someone's so fun to say you're
Speaker 2: so volumptuous. It's like sexus volumptious girl, now is there?
Speaker 1: Hold on, is it bluious? Volumptuous? I like to say delicious?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, ye delicious, yeah, volumptuous.
Speaker 1: It could be it's a Julie word just.
Speaker 3: To be that gotta be the I don't know the episode.
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, I like being called kurvy because
Speaker 2: you know, I you know, it's not negative, it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily curvy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I
Speaker 2: don't mind being called a big bitch because I am one.
Speaker 1: I said about it, I'm a big bitch. That was
Speaker 1: okay to say.
Speaker 2: That's okay to say because we are, and any person
Speaker 2: who is big doesn't accept that. And if you're like,
Speaker 2: for instance, like yes I'm fat because I am.
Speaker 1: It's just a statement. It's just what it is.
Speaker 2: You know. Yes, I'm trying to be healthy, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to shed some weight off me, but I'm I'm
Speaker 2: a big girl.
Speaker 1: I'm fat.
Speaker 3: So your partner in the bedroom or out can refer
Speaker 3: to you as my fat bitch.
Speaker 2: Bring that fat ass over here like he's fat as
Speaker 2: it says it in like a you know, very positive way. Sure,
Speaker 2: but don't come up and say, ooh you fat, you know,
Speaker 2: like with that negative tone, like you could say fat
Speaker 2: in a positive way. I I hear some fat positive sentences.
Speaker 3: Oh girl, that ass is so fat. Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's PhD pH at.
Speaker 1: It could be. It could be do p h A T?
Speaker 1: Can it just asses?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like even because even so, it's how
Speaker 2: you say the word, it's how you content. But the
Speaker 2: reason why I also say the p h A T
Speaker 2: is because going back back porn category, POGs right is right,
Speaker 2: badass white girl?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But it's literally spelled what a P. I think it's
Speaker 2: just a.
Speaker 1: Fog is weird? Yeah, I really do know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's just contextual what it is.
Speaker 1: If we put fat like the spelling that we're saying,
Speaker 1: I feel like fog is weird.
Speaker 3: But literally maybe fog makes sense. Yeah, okay, see pog
Speaker 3: makes sense. Don't make no goddamn sense either, make whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's get into that. You know, like, have you been.
Speaker 2: Referred to as a talk about Paul, Yeah, I've been
Speaker 2: for you the badass girl.
Speaker 1: Let's like, yeah, that's a myth or not? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you mainly.
Speaker 1: Dating black men? And is it because you me? Why
Speaker 1: do black men love big white girls? I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you find that like white guys are just.
Speaker 2: Not I never had sex with a black man until
Speaker 2: I moved to Iowa and I was twenty one. Iowa, bitch,
Speaker 2: those black people in Iowa. I lived in central Florida
Speaker 2: when I was a teenager. Oh step up city. But
Speaker 2: you know my white ass too, my pau gas mamla
Speaker 2: ow calla.
Speaker 1: You wasn't fucking black man?
Speaker 2: You no, you wantn't know why because I wasn't. I
Speaker 2: never really noticed that man.
Speaker 1: Wait, she was married. I wasn't married yet.
Speaker 2: I was a teenager girl, I was. I was only
Speaker 2: like when I lived in Florida, I was between the
Speaker 2: ages of twelve and twenty. Did you your identity when
Speaker 2: you losked in Virginia at twenty years old? That's why, bitch,
Speaker 2: you started earlier?
Speaker 1: Knew? Did you?
Speaker 2: Never had any black men really like press upon me though,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I never really anybody like come
Speaker 2: and be like yo, I'm way maybe, And I don't
Speaker 2: think I was prettier back. I'm way prettier now than
Speaker 2: I was back when I was younger. Like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 2: I blossomed, come on, blossom you. So I'm like, I
Speaker 2: feel like the eyes always get it. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: moved to Iowa and met this guy and we started.
Speaker 1: Black guys one year after virginity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was, but that was only I
Speaker 2: only that was like one and then like I only
Speaker 2: mess with like white guys for a while, and then
Speaker 2: like I married a white guy and then after that
Speaker 2: it clicked. I went you said, these crackers, Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: pretty much, these crackers.
Speaker 1: What why? Why though, do you find that black men
Speaker 1: are more like they do more body worship. They're they're
Speaker 1: attracted to your body.
Speaker 2: You're passionate and all all honestly, like even the white
Speaker 2: guys are very vanilla. No white guy ever was with
Speaker 2: was really like any black man I've ever been with,
Speaker 2: swear to guy, Hey, hey, hey, it's too much, too much. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'm a very honest person.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know like it?
Speaker 2: Well, well I would like to know Weezy bringing up
Speaker 2: the body worshiping again.
Speaker 1: As a by the way, I brought that up because
Speaker 1: any friend I had that was big and they were like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I always say that.
Speaker 3: They used to love to rub my stomach, and of
Speaker 3: course for me, it did make me uncomfortable. So in
Speaker 3: body worshiping, specifically as as a plus size woman.
Speaker 2: Where do you where do you like being touched?
Speaker 1: Like? And what is okay? What is uncomfortable? I love
Speaker 1: booty rubs.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, who doesn't love a good booty rub? Right?
Speaker 2: I don't mind my stomach being rubbed on because I
Speaker 2: think I've just gotten so used to it as time
Speaker 2: has gone on that it has just become something that
Speaker 2: happens with most guys that I hang out with or
Speaker 2: that i'm with. Like I I'm very sensual when I'm
Speaker 2: when I'm really into somebody, but like when I'm filming,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know.
Speaker 1: Doing my job. You know I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't usually gets unless I'm really into you. That's
Speaker 2: pretty much where I'm at. But like, I don't mind
Speaker 2: how my belly rubbed on. Like I rub on my
Speaker 2: belly too, Okay, I slap it, I play bong gos
Speaker 2: on it. But you know I'm yeah, I like to.
Speaker 1: Be touched all over touch melchool No. Wait, So I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, is there a fetish community that you've joined?
Speaker 1: And by joining that? So, I had a super BBW
Speaker 1: that I worked with, and she used to tell me
Speaker 1: she would go to BBW party, She's like, but I
Speaker 1: have to go to the super ones. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: like almost too big for the regular ones. Are you
Speaker 1: a part of a community and do you enjoy meeting
Speaker 1: people there or do you feel like this it's too fetishy.
Speaker 2: I mean, the the porn industry with the bbw's, it's
Speaker 2: its own little community in itself, and I'm cool. I
Speaker 2: try to be cool with everybody, you know. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: there are some like BBW bashes and events that I
Speaker 2: like to attend that are not necessarily in connection with
Speaker 2: the sex work industry.
Speaker 1: So they're just like plus size acceptance type.
Speaker 2: Parties, and so like that's where I think I feel
Speaker 2: like the most comfortable because it's just all all body types,
Speaker 2: even girls, y'all sizes will come because it's so it's
Speaker 2: just so inviting. So it's not just it's inviting because
Speaker 2: we want everyone to feel accepted and comfortable, and if
Speaker 2: we turn away people who aren't of size quote unquote,
Speaker 2: then we're the hypocrites, right, you know, because then we're
Speaker 2: basically shunning and shaming skinny people, and that's not I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if you remember, do you remember when we
Speaker 3: went to Jamaica, for hedonism. So Missy the New York
Speaker 3: promoter that brought a lot of people there for that
Speaker 3: specific weekend, she's plus sized friendly and that's I don't
Speaker 3: know if you remember a lot of the people that
Speaker 3: were there, but her her following does do that. Like
Speaker 3: so they throw sex club parties and then hotel party
Speaker 3: specific to men who love plus size women and plus
Speaker 3: size women to feel comfortable in a room with they're
Speaker 3: all over.
Speaker 1: They shaming right like in that category. I know skinny
Speaker 1: girls feel like they could be shamed too. I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a small line. If you're Coiler Ray skinny,
Speaker 1: I do believe you could be body shame. People are
Speaker 1: very mean to Coiler Ray, and it's like when you're
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, it looks like she's been that
Speaker 1: way her whole life. She has that very like gymnast
Speaker 1: Valerie thin thin body to me, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: When I see body shaming, I think it's fucked up,
Speaker 1: just a little regular look. You can't be out here
Speaker 1: saying I'm not thinking that I've spoken to this and
Speaker 1: I kind of actually do not care who I offend
Speaker 1: when I say this. In terms of people who do
Speaker 1: feel like there's a skinny shaming happening. The difference in
Speaker 1: the difference between fat shaming and skinny shaming is that
Speaker 1: skinny people are able to still walk into stores and
Speaker 1: fit the clothes.
Speaker 3: They can still do everything that can happen by for data.
Speaker 3: Their day to day life does not change because of
Speaker 3: their size when people aren't I get it, but but
Speaker 3: that's where like for me, when they try to compare
Speaker 3: their plight to fat shaming, those are two separate things.
Speaker 3: If you are skinny, don't come at a fat woman
Speaker 3: and say, oh my god, I'm body shamed too. There's
Speaker 3: not a There's zero comparison between someone being too small
Speaker 3: and body shamed, maybe because someone is looking at them
Speaker 3: not as sexually or whatever. Literally, their day to day
Speaker 3: life can happen without their size affecting how they live.
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 1: I've just I brought up coiler Ray because that was
Speaker 1: some of the meanest shit I've seen recently, Like I
Speaker 1: would even equate it to the way that Lizzo can't
Speaker 1: post a picture without them talking about her body. Don't
Speaker 1: I see one nice thing about Coilerat, who's cute, adorable,
Speaker 1: kadance and she raps it was like boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: I mean on that shit would make me insecurious about
Speaker 1: especially because you're in the world where the rapper girls
Speaker 1: need to be thick. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cardi also just dropped her last video and the
Speaker 3: way they spoke about Cardi's body.
Speaker 1: No Cardian and color no no no. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is coilor ra is that but.
Speaker 3: People talking about BBLS, people talking about skinny shaming, I
Speaker 3: one hundred percent will stand on it is nowhere near
Speaker 3: the f shaming experience and the actual experience of someone
Speaker 3: who is plus size.
Speaker 1: It's true, it really, I'm not saying it's not. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I do think that level of skinny has
Speaker 1: definitely no just human suck. But that's car being shamed.
Speaker 1: Human suck. Now, that's just to be very human. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to think of the prototype of what people
Speaker 1: think the perfect body is in this era, you know,
Speaker 1: but there is no perfect There is no perfect body.
Speaker 1: But that's there is no perfect body. And you can't
Speaker 1: tell everyone to do the same makeup that you can't
Speaker 1: tell girls that are showing the same doctor.
Speaker 2: But there's the delusional is also subjective.
Speaker 1: Let's be very flee because the same way you have
Speaker 1: men that like you at whatever size you've been.
Speaker 2: Now because you've shaped, you've changed your side.
Speaker 1: The same with me.
Speaker 2: I really think that the men who are hold on
Speaker 2: I'm being serious.
Speaker 1: You really think in the era of today, beauty is
Speaker 1: subjective according to the Internet. I think that in reality, yes,
Speaker 1: this is true, but there isn't clear standard of what
Speaker 1: girls like to look like today.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I'm gonna say that, not anymore.
Speaker 3: It's subjective because you still have those that fallen over
Speaker 3: the BBL.
Speaker 2: We are now getting into the natural girl era. We
Speaker 2: also have people who.
Speaker 1: Have gone to the BBL and remove those I think
Speaker 1: it's shifting. But bro, the Kim Kardashian era of the look,
Speaker 1: the eyebrow, the hair, even I don't know. I definitely
Speaker 1: think there's a way that society has pushed girls to
Speaker 1: kind of look at too.
Speaker 3: I also think it depends on your city. Even me
Speaker 3: going to the to the to the Midwest. With tonight's conversation,
Speaker 3: the girls that you clearly know was like them. Girls
Speaker 3: look completely different than the girls that we're gonna see
Speaker 3: in New York or.
Speaker 1: Atlanta or La or La.
Speaker 3: It depends where you're at as well, and option Base.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of though, we got bananas here, I want to
Speaker 1: get into our motherfucker hoard dirt because baby, you said
Speaker 1: you about to show us some things.
Speaker 2: Am I?
Speaker 3: So yeah, our hoar drive portion of the pot is
Speaker 3: where oh wait you I face say, I I say
Speaker 3: I was gonna put a banana in my mouth, you
Speaker 3: feel me? Hold on not the producer like everyone your hair.
Speaker 2: She's okay.
Speaker 3: So, by the way, I learned this literally from the
Speaker 3: Discovery channel. Y'all both opened it wrong.
Speaker 2: Banana bottle the body. Oh, this is the this is
Speaker 2: the girl.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: I opened up mine looking really good. So I know
Speaker 2: what your problem is perfect birth, sof not mine already
Speaker 2: being a little brown. It knew I like some brown,
Speaker 2: bad brown.
Speaker 1: She will okay, all right, give us your dick tea chest,
Speaker 1: give us your dick sucking tip.
Speaker 2: First of all, who doesn't love a good banana.
Speaker 1: That's a good curve, isn't it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I had an ex boyfriend with the perfect curve
Speaker 2: and this was it, damn And I loved it because
Speaker 2: it was like the perfect down the throat action, straight
Speaker 2: and narrow for me.
Speaker 1: Know, I like to give a little I get a
Speaker 1: little lick. Oh you do the giggle. That's very porny.
Speaker 1: You giggle.
Speaker 2: Wait, you giggle on the Okay, wait is that one
Speaker 2: of your you giggle on the test. They like watch
Speaker 2: to watch my porn to find out, I guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, Also, wait, I need you to moan
Speaker 1: and talking to this mike while you do this. Come
Speaker 1: on production, let me audio experience a little bit.
Speaker 2: So for me personally, when I'm when I'm doing it right,
Speaker 2: like I like to lick on it and like tease
Speaker 2: it because it kind of you know, gives that sensuality.
Speaker 2: But when you're ready, when you're ready.
Speaker 1: Okay, you just kind of h.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I like to like you like talking here, you
Speaker 2: love that ship way you talk. You fake talk on
Speaker 2: a dick. Sometimes I like to gag, but you know
Speaker 2: this isn't quite as thick as what most.
Speaker 1: Right now lunch right now. No, I love having that
Speaker 1: mmmm hmm m oh, it's so good.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, so talking so you tease, that's a
Speaker 3: part of your poor play.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean okay.
Speaker 1: They want to they want to have that, you know,
Speaker 1: same you know type of like you know, how long.
Speaker 3: Do you sease before you actually go ham? Because how
Speaker 3: long is it before you childish? And he's like, bitch,
Speaker 3: if you don't suck this guy down.
Speaker 2: It just depends on the vibe and the energy that
Speaker 2: they give off or like the way they either maybe
Speaker 2: moan or.
Speaker 1: How hard they get. I guess like that's a good yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'm realizing, like sometimes the teasing can make it
Speaker 1: even harder.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know like that that that that line part,
Speaker 2: like right where the whole kind of makes that mush.
Speaker 2: I don't Yes, I like to lick and touch and
Speaker 2: play with that part because I've noticed it sometimes and
Speaker 2: it depends on the guy. It makes them super hard
Speaker 2: and but sometimes you just have to swallow the dick
Speaker 2: to get them hard to. I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Men are weird with your dicks. There is there a
Speaker 1: conversation that you have at all to see how this
Speaker 1: man probably likes to be pleased from the stick, Like
Speaker 1: what what are questions you ask in regards to do
Speaker 1: you prefer hands? Do you like it messy?
Speaker 2: Like? Kind of what are those conversations? Depends on the
Speaker 2: guide to you. Sometimes they come ready and sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1: Have to worry about that.
Speaker 2: But you're right too. Let me know you like me right?
Speaker 2: Do you think you can do you think I could
Speaker 2: take this all the way down my throat?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 2: How many hits of the five?
Speaker 1: About five?
Speaker 2: I was about to say, No, this is this between
Speaker 2: my finger and thumb is like five inches like you yeah,
Speaker 2: to the back of your throat.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who four star bitch? Oh and brought
Speaker 1: having the back at me because she's choking. Oh, I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: she said. She gag goes down.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna eat it.
Speaker 1: Oh no more.
Speaker 2: No, he was red my face. I know, I'm good.
Speaker 2: It just broke off, so I had to like get
Speaker 2: it up some sorry about.
Speaker 1: I've watch so many videos where like pain and no
Speaker 1: one helped.
Speaker 2: By the way men like that, not the not the
Speaker 2: Oyes water y'all, y'all.
Speaker 1: Bro I almost choked last night. And while I was choking,
Speaker 1: I stopped and he goes, do you think I give
Speaker 1: a fuck about? I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is such a meaning I like.
Speaker 2: I liked I honestly. Okay, So one of my one
Speaker 2: of my kinks is I like to choke on dick
Speaker 2: so much that makes me like almost pass out. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's hot. I don't know, but I was sucking
Speaker 2: since I was fourteen. So I mean, I'm just an
Speaker 2: expert at this place.
Speaker 1: And it took you six years?
Speaker 2: Yeah we both did, bitch, it did?
Speaker 1: It took me six years?
Speaker 2: Hears the ship out of me, like with team pregnancy,
Speaker 2: and can I also be can I also be very serious?
Speaker 2: This is why they call women like you Becky, Like
Speaker 2: y'all would.
Speaker 1: Suck dick really early, like you know you you definitely
Speaker 1: proved that myth, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Wow, So I want to just kind of ask you
Speaker 2: a little bit more about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I need to tell somebody that look
Speaker 1: at this.
Speaker 3: I know, so I know about sucking dick until you
Speaker 3: throw up? What is sucking dick until you almost passed out?
Speaker 2: It's like you get to the point where like your
Speaker 2: airflow is like obviously you're cut off, right, and then
Speaker 2: you kind of start like seeing stars. And then that's
Speaker 2: when I how does he know?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is? What is? He don't need to know. It's
Speaker 2: my job to know.
Speaker 1: It's my king.
Speaker 2: You don't need to know. He just needs to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: So what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 2: What is your Do you push him off of you?
Speaker 2: Do you? You know? I just I just pull off.
Speaker 2: And you know, cause I usually tell most guys I'm
Speaker 2: in control here, you're not. I'm the one who's exactly
Speaker 2: it's my dick that I'm sucking, and you're gonna you're
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it, and I have no complaint.
Speaker 1: Have you never? Have you ever passed out my accent yet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 2: I mean, okay never, I'll never let that happen because
Speaker 2: I've learned and controlled it and been doing it for
Speaker 2: so long that I've learned to control like the like
Speaker 2: I wonder my.
Speaker 1: Cause I don't see stars. I just get a little
Speaker 1: my focus kids glory. Then that's that's a.
Speaker 2: That's a.
Speaker 1: That's about the right point.
Speaker 2: I be hating, bitch, I just got my last is done.
Speaker 2: Don't maybe cry. I don't let my eyes water. I
Speaker 2: don't like the gag. I fake gag right on the tip.
Speaker 2: I do like that. Oh god, you have to make
Speaker 2: me uncomfortable. Don't touch my head. It just got done.
Speaker 2: Did you pay for this?
Speaker 1: Actually? You know something I want to say that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of women don't know about too much
Speaker 1: spit or gagging. If you have it so sloppy to
Speaker 1: the point where they can't feel it, men need friction.
Speaker 1: It can't be Yeah, it can't be totally destroyed. And
Speaker 1: also it'd be going down their booty crack like you
Speaker 1: kind of that's what they like, and you saying booty
Speaker 1: crack on motherfuckering horrible decisions like we ain't motherfucker goes
Speaker 1: bootlehole every man in this real wolf Do you like
Speaker 1: that at in? I mean no, no, no, no dude.
Speaker 2: Do you want to spit going to your boothhole?
Speaker 1: I love it? Answer you don't like it either. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I'm not going no no, no. It's not
Speaker 1: like they play it. Couldn't stand up stuck great, then
Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable for men. It's different if.
Speaker 2: You're in it, so I ain't gonna hold you though.
Speaker 2: That's where I've let my tip go.
Speaker 3: If you really is sucking and making making it so
Speaker 3: wet that now my spit is.
Speaker 2: Going down to your to your boot hole.
Speaker 1: What I like to do. That's where I like to use.
Speaker 2: My my knuckles. Now that's no, I'm not playing with
Speaker 2: one knuckle. Don't look like that. So the knuckle is
Speaker 2: just to where it's moist crazing. It's not crazing. I'm
Speaker 2: just grazing. And technically it's like Winch shield wipers in
Speaker 2: the bouta crack.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a thing. If he's fully naked, then
Speaker 1: I'll do it. If there's the gens are on, if
Speaker 1: we're in the car if you just pulled it down
Speaker 1: a little bit, you can't be making that much of
Speaker 1: a mess, right.
Speaker 3: You have to know when to make the mess and
Speaker 3: when not to make the mess. That's a fact, iful, Okay.
Speaker 3: And the other day I was stuck in this dick
Speaker 3: and I said, sir, I have a full face on.
Speaker 3: If you don't take your goddamn wife beater and Khaki's off,
Speaker 3: my whole face about.
Speaker 2: To be all.
Speaker 1: You got to get naked.
Speaker 2: You gotta be maked. Can this face is beat and
Speaker 2: it will end up on you?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: And I told Kaki the white beater got to come
Speaker 2: off playing. My mouth is like a waterfall, so like
Speaker 2: I have to tell them. I put a towel underneath
Speaker 2: their ass and say, hey, look you're about to have.
Speaker 2: Mouth is a water You're about to have one of
Speaker 2: the sloppies blowjobs you've ever had. So I'm please it
Speaker 2: on a towel, so we're good. I don't get my
Speaker 2: bed wet or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, hunt, I.
Speaker 2: Have literally two two waterproof like towels that I bring
Speaker 2: with me. Wait, you travel with waterproof towels? I have
Speaker 2: to because of your head game. I'm so in you're
Speaker 2: a squirter. I was trying to say, but my head
Speaker 2: game is sloppy. It's it's really good.
Speaker 1: So I'm only seeing one of your videos.
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta watch all the other ones. I would
Speaker 3: love to know real quick. Yes, you know that you
Speaker 3: are a squirter. You know that your head is sloppy. Yes,
Speaker 3: you travel with waterproof towels. Can you please narrate how
Speaker 3: you have to lay this down prior to having sex
Speaker 3: with maybe a new partner.
Speaker 2: That isn't a word, like, how do you even let
Speaker 2: them know gott to.
Speaker 1: Lay the soul?
Speaker 2: I mean I just basically say to them, hey, I squirt,
Speaker 2: I laid down this towel to help keep everything dry.
Speaker 2: I hope that's cool. And a lot of times they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cool. They're like yeah, all right, nobody.
Speaker 1: You're scene and scene and scene and saying I have
Speaker 1: a whole mail that I wanted to bring up because
Speaker 1: it's all about fetishizing. I want to know where the
Speaker 1: line is right. So the whole mail was actually something
Speaker 1: a listener sent in to me, okay, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: it'll be a little tea. I'll read it to the Pika.
Speaker 1: She really thought, I don't know. I feel like she
Speaker 1: really was trying to check me, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was weird just to check you. But also at the
Speaker 1: same time, I was like, I guess I see why
Speaker 1: she said it. I don't know. Oh fuck, I can't
Speaker 1: find her name. Keep talking, keep talking.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, before we get into whole mail, there were
Speaker 3: some things that I just wanted to bring up wrapping
Speaker 3: up the horrible decision. So I did end up looking
Speaker 3: up size kinks, okay, And I just kind of wanted
Speaker 3: to run through a few in case someone was interested
Speaker 3: in searching certain categories. What they can expect in those
Speaker 3: sup size kink, of course comes from Urban Dictionary, because
Speaker 3: maybe they made it simple for us. That's being turned
Speaker 3: on or aroused at a distinct difference in size and
Speaker 3: comparison to your partner. Usually this does include, by the way,
Speaker 3: it's not just weight. It also includes height. It includes
Speaker 3: muscle size as well as penis size. It is generally
Speaker 3: used when referring to a submissive being turned on by
Speaker 3: being smaller than their partner. And I wanted to talk
Speaker 3: to you about that because where we normally think of
Speaker 3: sub and dom in a somewhat physical way, or how
Speaker 3: you speak to someone or how you adhere, maybe some
Speaker 3: sort of slapping or abuse.
Speaker 1: Men then who normally want to deal.
Speaker 3: With you, how do you feel like they enter into
Speaker 3: their submissive role being that you're normally larger than them
Speaker 3: in size or stature.
Speaker 2: A lot of times they want me to smother them,
Speaker 2: and so they'll be up underneath me, and so I'm
Speaker 2: able to assert my dominance that way by putting all
Speaker 2: my weight or just sitting my big ass on their
Speaker 2: face like they want, no, no, she ain't killed nobody.
Speaker 1: How do you do they do?
Speaker 2: You have to see usually they tap or well push
Speaker 2: my push me up off, like there's breath. Play is
Speaker 2: a huge kink when it comes to size play as well. Okay,
Speaker 2: I've had people ask me to do giant test content
Speaker 2: and I'm not even I'm not I'm under six foot.
Speaker 2: But there's certain angles you can do, right, you know
Speaker 2: for that, but like you know, small giant, explain what that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So basically giant, it's like, uh, let's say, for instance,
Speaker 2: I have like a little little person, right, it's that side.
Speaker 1: It's like a figuration.
Speaker 2: It's like a figurine, like a little figurine person, right,
Speaker 2: and so people a lot of times will have the
Speaker 2: camera situated to a way it looks makes me look
Speaker 2: really tall, and this person obviously is small.
Speaker 1: It's right.
Speaker 2: I have had people ask me to squash gummy bears
Speaker 2: to represent small people and then turn around and eat
Speaker 2: them so that they are stuck in my tummy for
Speaker 2: forever and ever, like giant. You ain't even, you ain't even.
Speaker 2: They just wanted you to smash some gummy beer.
Speaker 1: I'm mad.
Speaker 2: Custom custom videos are a really big thing in the
Speaker 2: plus size and even regular sex community. But plus size,
Speaker 2: you know, big girls, we get a lot of the
Speaker 2: really crazy, like what are.
Speaker 1: Some of the other weird requests you've gotten? Let's get it,
Speaker 1: sawdy fluid stuff?
Speaker 2: How weird is at this point it's not, but we're
Speaker 2: talking the other one plus the menstrual cycle ones.
Speaker 1: What about the ship? What do I want you to
Speaker 1: do with the ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, what they want you to do. Oh,
Speaker 2: I've had people ask me to eat it. I've had
Speaker 2: people ask me.
Speaker 1: To you for that.
Speaker 2: It depends it's how much I charge, how much how
Speaker 2: much you charge? So you never, oh never.
Speaker 1: So that's a hard note.
Speaker 2: But that's a hard note for me. But there are
Speaker 2: females that will do it. Yep, there are females who
Speaker 2: will actually do sessions with men. We've talked about that, right,
Speaker 2: who will eat the ship? It's what's the going rate
Speaker 2: for eating your own ship? I don't know because I
Speaker 2: don't do it well. How much they done offered you?
Speaker 1: And oh no, how much I would like? How much
Speaker 1: I would charge? I don't even know.
Speaker 2: You don't know that number. You don't know that number
Speaker 2: personally because I've I've never had waity.
Speaker 1: How much?
Speaker 2: How much would you charge? You know? You should reach
Speaker 2: out to You should reach out to Goddess Nadia, god.
Speaker 1: Scat person. Okay, that is her like her bread and butter.
Speaker 1: So you you said no to that? I would love
Speaker 1: to know before we get into this home mail.
Speaker 3: What is the weirdest request you received that you agreed
Speaker 3: to and how much did you get for it?
Speaker 2: Quite honest with you, I've really not done anything that
Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable with doing. But I can tell you
Speaker 2: one of the most eye opening obscure ones was a
Speaker 2: man wanted to pay me ten thousand dollars to step on.
Speaker 1: A live animal.
Speaker 2: We hear that, why do we hear that someone.
Speaker 1: Is a big fetish? What was the animal?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: It was just what a small something small?
Speaker 3: If you wouldn't I would have stepped on my motherfucking
Speaker 3: aunt for ten thousand.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have the has to have the anatomy
Speaker 2: to be able to break and scrush, and so I'm
Speaker 2: thinking something like making a mouse or something. And to me,
Speaker 2: I'm so against that, Like I was really like appalled,
Speaker 2: but so intrigued by it, just because I'm like, I've
Speaker 2: never had anybody asked me to do this.
Speaker 1: I know what you want me to ring U right now.
Speaker 1: I went to a fucking DVD store where they had
Speaker 1: a bunch of animal porn. It's called Blue Door DVD.
Speaker 1: It's on Seventh Street. We were literally walking to a bookstore.
Speaker 1: I mean, not be Karsha, I mean.
Speaker 2: We go in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, man, let's pick a porn. So
Speaker 1: we get through the aisles and one of the aisles
Speaker 1: has animals. Oh my god. Right, we go to the
Speaker 1: next aisle and we're like, oh shit, like four fucking
Speaker 1: tears of animal porn. The place is known for animal porn,
Speaker 1: like wait, wait Dog was one of the titles. Oh wait, wait,
Speaker 1: they were fucking animals wait BC reality. But also the
Speaker 1: smushing was smushing was in there too. Wow.
Speaker 2: And that's the biggest and the craziest one. The other
Speaker 2: ones have been more scat related, and because my ass
Speaker 2: is so big so that they want to see that.
Speaker 2: You know, I've done some scat videos, but it's more
Speaker 2: just the act of but not me doing anything with it,
Speaker 2: no touching, nothing like that.
Speaker 1: Like how much do you get paid to ship on camera? Charge?
Speaker 1: Like four hundred for the video? Shit? Yeah? Yeah, damn.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the ship come out of your butt?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you?
Speaker 1: By the way, I looked at my own ship on
Speaker 1: a camera. I went to a toilet. It went to
Speaker 1: a toilet. You don't know. This is the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever seen my own ship, not just looking at it. Wait,
Speaker 1: it's called Rise Nation. It's a gym. It's not that great.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like pub them, but they have
Speaker 1: a it's a gym and tribecker and basically there's mirrors
Speaker 1: all over the bathroom down to the floor, right, And
Speaker 1: of course I'm not sitting my ass doat on the toilet,
Speaker 1: so I'm shitty and I'm looking at like, oh, bro,
Speaker 1: that's nat. I'm like, oh my god, this is so
Speaker 1: fucking hold you. I've never seen it before. I apologize
Speaker 1: at the end for any of y'all niggas listened to
Speaker 1: eating lunch. The fuck niggas be at work, bro, Sorry,
Speaker 1: now y'all going to y'all gotta ship your coffee out anyway.
Speaker 1: I know you listen go in there real quick and
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, how much does it cost to
Speaker 1: do a class? And they'd be like, can use your bathroom?
Speaker 1: Watch yourself ship. It's the most interesting interesting.
Speaker 2: It was crazy did your did your did your bootle
Speaker 2: hole rosebud girl?
Speaker 1: Anyway, it was a simple ship. It was a clean ship.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It's like a McDonald's ice cream machine.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 1: It's very clean. It's just right out, it's done.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm not funny because but you want
Speaker 3: to drink fucking matching asta e bowls like I know
Speaker 3: you be shit.
Speaker 1: I'm two times today bad bro. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: speaking of as much as I be shitting, I'm going
Speaker 1: on my longest trip with a dude ever minus when
Speaker 1: I lived in Mexico. My EXE. We're going to Hawaii
Speaker 1: for a week, and all I kept needing myself is like,
Speaker 1: how am I gonna act like I have to keep
Speaker 1: taking phone calls? I don't want to share. I'll just
Speaker 1: go do it.
Speaker 2: No, your I ain't gonna hold you. When me and
Speaker 2: my eggs was together, baby in the morning, you're taking
Speaker 2: a shower. Baby, I'm shitting shitt want you in the shower?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 2: But that? How well, how comfortable are you with this
Speaker 2: person though?
Speaker 1: You gotta be fucked up?
Speaker 2: How comfortable are you see my ass that night?
Speaker 1: Anything with him? Except it's just it's not the comfortability
Speaker 1: for me. It's just like I don't want him to.
Speaker 2: See you can't believe he knows that you're a human being.
Speaker 1: Okay. So speaking of damn, why is the hair everywhere
Speaker 1: all over this pillow? Okay?
Speaker 2: So now let's get it.
Speaker 1: Here's this girl who gave me a read, but I
Speaker 1: don't feel like the read was worthy. Okay. So she
Speaker 1: has been listening to Horrible for a long time and
Speaker 1: said this in after listening to the episode about the forsome. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're at a fourthsome in Mexico with the two with
Speaker 1: the lesbian couple with one of which I kept calling
Speaker 1: the butch bitch.
Speaker 2: Which I don't feel like that was a slur.
Speaker 1: It's not like I called her the one we need
Speaker 1: to believe that anyways. I used to really enjoy the podcast,
Speaker 1: but recently feel like Wheezy has been reckless when it comes,
Speaker 1: incredibly reckless when it comes to a narrative she has
Speaker 1: about settling down listening to beginning episodes versus now, it's
Speaker 1: just disappointing. This episode put the nail on the coffin,
Speaker 1: and it was the foresome discussion. When you allowed your
Speaker 1: man to fetish size another gay person and also allowed
Speaker 1: yourself to be fetishized by white women, it just didn't
Speaker 1: seem to align with the person you've portrayed yourself to be.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this shit to y'all to be disrespectful,
Speaker 1: but as a dedicated listener, it was really disappointing to
Speaker 1: hear how to hear Wheezy's side on this podcast. I
Speaker 1: hope if y'all see this, you can be more considerate
Speaker 1: of the narrative you create around your sexuality, because it's
Speaker 1: not giving safe space the way it used to.
Speaker 2: Oh now, interesting, no, bitch, you responded, I want oh yeah, ye,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read my oh okay rail response.
Speaker 1: The foursome conversation basically was about this lesbian couple that
Speaker 1: wanted to fuck us, and we wanted to fuck them.
Speaker 1: First episode of the year, I want to go back.
Speaker 1: He was like super interested because the girl had never
Speaker 1: had sex with a man. He was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 2: An opportunity to do something that you know, I'll never
Speaker 2: get to do the next thing I don't remember me
Speaker 2: for life and forever right exactly, And so it was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, like this is okay. So I said, I
Speaker 2: had so much fun.
Speaker 1: I lived in the moment. I don't think anything was
Speaker 1: wrong with him having a fantasy about fucking a mask lesbian,
Speaker 1: especially when that's never you know, has It's so clear
Speaker 1: that I was considered of them and their feelings and
Speaker 1: us being a safe space to experience a hetero couple
Speaker 1: that I really don't know how much I better could
Speaker 1: have handled the situation the four of us mutually wanted
Speaker 1: to be in. For example, one of them started getting emotional.
Speaker 1: He didn't notice because he's fucking enjoying pussy. But I
Speaker 1: literally stopped left, went in the bathroom and comforted her
Speaker 1: while she was crying. She wasn't uncomfortable about him being
Speaker 1: there was more hard provocating, but anyway, So in the scenario,
Speaker 1: there was a few situations with them, like gawking over him,
Speaker 1: and then she talks about this. Appreciate the acknowledgment. Still
Speaker 1: a fan. Didn't mean any disrespect. We're not going to
Speaker 1: agree on everything. I wanted to say my peace. Didn't
Speaker 1: think you'd respond. It was really the language and actions
Speaker 1: playing in his hair and the fixating on her never
Speaker 1: have been with a man. It was a bit hard
Speaker 1: to listen to as a gay woman who's been fetishized.
Speaker 1: That's how I interpreted it. I'm sorry, when are we
Speaker 1: going to ever be able to explore anything? Then? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I understand how she might feel because guys have
Speaker 1: probably made her feel uncomfortable. Bijon, think you heard me
Speaker 1: when I say nobody's wanted to fuck anymore on anyone
Speaker 1: more on the planet than these two bigees want to
Speaker 1: fuck us. They were ridiculous. So they're fetishizing us, whether
Speaker 1: it's black chas dreads us being straight, whatever it was,
Speaker 1: Why couldn't we do the same, and also, why is
Speaker 1: it super unhealthy to fetishize anything. And so that's why
Speaker 1: I wanted to have this conversation with you, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone wanted to fuck you just because of
Speaker 1: yourself absolutely all the time. When the time, when is
Speaker 1: it okay and not okay?
Speaker 2: I think it's on how you how you how someone
Speaker 2: comes and approaches you about it. I think it's about
Speaker 2: the approach and about the conversation you have about it.
Speaker 2: Like there are guys that all the time, you know,
Speaker 2: they'll gawk over you. Oh my god, you're so big.
Speaker 4: I just can't.
Speaker 2: You know, I've never been with a big girl before.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to try it. That's the biggest line
Speaker 2: I get all the time.
Speaker 1: And you don't like that line. Honestly, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really care anymore. I really have gotten to
Speaker 2: that point where I'm like, I know I'm a big girl.
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna get fetishized. I kind of just
Speaker 2: start like going, okay, yeah, I get it all right,
Speaker 2: you know, and I just kind of like try to
Speaker 2: just not be mean because I get where.
Speaker 1: They're coming from.
Speaker 2: I'm I know I fetishized black men sometimes, I know
Speaker 2: I do, and I don't mean to but I.
Speaker 1: Get so attracted or I get so like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my, oh my god, oh my god, what is big?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, I know, I do the same thing most definitely
Speaker 2: without anything, without any malice, without any malice. It's never
Speaker 2: any malice. And behind my fetish sizing. So you've been
Speaker 2: able because you know that you look at maybe black
Speaker 2: men that way.
Speaker 1: As a white woman, you're just like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to demonize someone for fetishizing me as a bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well either way, you know she's white.
Speaker 1: Was really honest, I I.
Speaker 2: And I don't want that to come off as me
Speaker 2: being like rude or saying you know that's I do
Speaker 2: it all the time. No, it happens occasionally. It's not
Speaker 2: like I do it all the time. Sometimes I just
Speaker 2: see something that I like and i've you know, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like I think the mutual fetishizing too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's say that it is because you're white or because
Speaker 1: you're big or whatever. I felt like in this moment
Speaker 1: when I read that, I was like, damn, I really
Speaker 1: and no one else had wrote me saying that they
Speaker 1: felt like we were wrong. And I also made a
Speaker 1: comment because she did say something about his hair or
Speaker 1: touched it or almost touched it, I can't remember. But
Speaker 1: I literally went over to him in the middle of
Speaker 1: it and said, are you okay? Like is this do
Speaker 1: you want to go? Because bitch, that's too much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now he was like, it's okay, it's okay. They're drunk,
Speaker 1: they're excited. Like he even stopped me. So I checked
Speaker 1: in with him because I wasn't prioritizing the two girls.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I did feel like it was
Speaker 1: a mutual fetish thing. I never slept with a lesbian
Speaker 1: couple with a lot of women, but like one saying
Speaker 1: she was Mormon, oh the one never been.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my, this is this isn't fucking
Speaker 2: if this isn't if this isn't the opportunity of a
Speaker 2: lifetime to know like that, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think.
Speaker 2: That's why I think like people should start taking more
Speaker 2: of those opportunities. It's not being so scared, you know,
Speaker 2: like if if you feel like if this person on
Speaker 2: your Instagram is saying that they feel this way, that's
Speaker 2: one that's one person's opinion, right right.
Speaker 1: You had a good time. They had a good time.
Speaker 1: Your dude's good, right. That was the first thing I
Speaker 1: lad with, I said, I had. I lived in such
Speaker 1: the moment. We had sex with them within thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of that club. Never forget that. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: should we stop and have a snack too? Was like no,
Speaker 1: I really thought so they did.
Speaker 2: It as much to you as as maybe y'all may
Speaker 2: have done it to them.
Speaker 1: It was definitely mutual fetishes. And I do think that
Speaker 1: shit is that's what we're saying. I said, well, maybe
Speaker 1: mine wasn't as bad, but maybe if it's like an
Speaker 1: Asian girl or a black girl, maybe it's bad. Then
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well why do they make the race thing? Okay, No,
Speaker 1: it's all kind of if it's mutual. Listen, I'm a
Speaker 1: super dark skin friend, right, a girl model, very dark,
Speaker 1: And she's like, girl, what is up with me? Wanted
Speaker 1: to fuck these vampy looking, pale white boys. And I
Speaker 1: laughed about it, and she's like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: like the ones that don't even turn red, they just
Speaker 1: get a little blue if they're like outside of the well.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I like that shit, And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my God, And I know somebody wants you because you're
Speaker 1: super dark. So it's like, yeah, now one is obviously
Speaker 1: more oppressed than the others. That's why then you get
Speaker 1: your PC Olympics. But I think as long as we
Speaker 1: understand that there may be a fetish and we feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you absolutely. I know I get fetishized.
Speaker 2: I know that I fetishize people, you know, even sometimes women.
Speaker 2: I look at y'all sometimes and I'm.
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Speaker 5: or are you gonna be an o G or a legend?
Speaker 1: Joanna said, let me let me clean this for you
Speaker 1: the night you think I was really heading to the
Speaker 1: washed up lane, and then everybody start calling me a legend.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I got to say legend.
Speaker 1: There we got.
Speaker 2: Legend is better. I didn't call up you are.
Speaker 1: The reason I wanted to tell you about the day
Speaker 1: that I saw you is because.
Speaker 3: Wait, one moment, Joanna angels by camera should girl all
Speaker 3: out hello, and it's bad.
Speaker 5: I always wind up looking at himself like an assholet up.
Speaker 1: So speaking of legends, I'm at a food convention. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last year weren't eating call this year I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We saw each other, right, yes, And I was
Speaker 1: trying to remind you and You're like girl, and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's a podcast girl. So the first year
Speaker 1: that I saw her, I'm high shitting, I'm with questlove
Speaker 1: and I'm not no lie kind of bored. After you eat,
Speaker 1: you getting tired, So We're sitting at some panel and
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I fucked up in the head? Like
Speaker 1: am my eyes deceiving me? Or is that Joanna Angel?
Speaker 4: So she's so funny because you're sitting next to Questlov
Speaker 4: and you're excited about me.
Speaker 1: Well, look what I do for a living, like a
Speaker 1: pretty important guy. That's funny. So I said, it's like,
Speaker 1: and I'm expecting that he doesn't know her name. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I know you don't know who this is.
Speaker 1: But then he's like, that's my girl, up starts talking
Speaker 1: to this BI. I'm like looking at him while he's
Speaker 1: facing me, I'm like cry. And then I come up
Speaker 1: and I'm like and she's so sweet. I say podcasts
Speaker 1: and she's like, God, give me a number. So how
Speaker 1: I Know you is mainly when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I only watched Blackborn, But how I Know You is
Speaker 1: from HBO, the show Times the Stars. You were really
Speaker 1: big in that kind of TV when watching the Age
Speaker 1: a Van Awards, when we would see documentaries and I
Speaker 1: would always hear your name, and there's not many porn
Speaker 1: stars I remember from back then. So seeing you now
Speaker 1: when I type in your name and it literally comes
Speaker 1: up with videos you made. I was so excited to
Speaker 1: talk to you because we got to talk with Havana Ginger,
Speaker 1: who's one of my favorites. And I'm like, damn, when
Speaker 1: you see someone that like kind of goes up the
Speaker 1: ladder and they've evolved their career, like, to me, that's
Speaker 1: the most interesting. Oh yeah, and too, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Havana was just more recent in my brain. But yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us what you're famous for.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, well, you know, depends on who you ask,
Speaker 4: but I guess my my legacy.
Speaker 1: Was known for.
Speaker 5: In two thousand and two, I sort of, I guess,
Speaker 5: came into this scene. I started the company h Burning Angel,
Speaker 5: which was not a company when it started. It was
Speaker 5: just a website and then it kind of spawned into
Speaker 5: a company, So I.
Speaker 4: Guess, uh, And there weren't there were very few, if
Speaker 4: not any.
Speaker 5: I never want to say the only because I don't
Speaker 5: know everything that was going on, but there were very
Speaker 5: few performer owned studios, you know, there were very few
Speaker 5: you know, performers behind the camera. And there were also
Speaker 5: I guess it was like unheard of to put tattooed
Speaker 5: people and yeah, really, yeah, isn't that weird. It's like,
Speaker 5: I don't even like saying that now, that that's what
Speaker 5: I'm known for, because it seems like such an obvious no.
Speaker 2: It's crazy that you actually say that.
Speaker 3: I was just talking to my homeboy and when I'm
Speaker 3: at whole parties and things like that, when men, when
Speaker 3: men like approached me and asked me, they immediately go
Speaker 3: to are you a dancer? And I was like, so
Speaker 3: I'm telling him this story about how they think I'm
Speaker 3: a stripper every time I go to pool parties and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I guess my body, and he was like, no,
Speaker 3: it's your tattoos. He's like, a lot of dancers now
Speaker 3: are tatted.
Speaker 2: The fuck that the hat