1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Horrible decision. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Hotti, everybody, we have the Horrible Decisions podcast, and we're 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: going to be in Dallas, Texas. Moriial day weekend, bitch 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: is a Sunday. We're gonna be headlining the two together 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Land Festival. And you bitched better than I had a 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: motherfucker work on Sunday. Call out ho. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 3: I mean you could do that. But also it's a 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: three day weekend. They have Monday off. We will see 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: you guys in Dallas, Texas at the together Land Festival. 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Make sure you get your tickets now. 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: We will be live on the podcast stage that's made 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: twenty six. Get your tickets now at togetherland dot com. 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Hey, so, welcome to another episode a Horrible Decision. You're 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: white boys, I mean it was closed, it wasn't bike. 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm like on a huh. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Anyways, I wanted to mow them because we have someone 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: who moans as well, so I just wanted to do that. Anyways, guys, 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of horror. This is yos. 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: I'm your girl maybe b aka pet de Sign aka 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: full cor Posts aka Debt bitch. 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Y'all, it's weezy we're back for another episode. Today, we 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: have a guest that we met at the a b NS. 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: And what's crazy about this guest is that Mandy and 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: I were literally looking through categories on like who to interview, 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: and so I'm like sharing them with my boo or. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: Whatever, not even sharing them wear her boo. She's sending 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: them to me. 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Well you were both, y'all. Yeah, so and Yoe was 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: literally one of them, but I think it just didn't 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: work out because we end up getting Nicole Kit and Mia. 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: So anyway, we're in line and this bitch asked my 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: man the whole sme. I'm like, and and way it 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: turns around is like, bitch, I know you no, but like, 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: it's so cool to go to the av AND Awards 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: and actually see people that you, you know, follow online. 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: That's so dope. And one of the things you said 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: to us in line, Julie you were I was like, 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I hope you get to win. She was like, even 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: if it's not me, it better be a real BBW. 41 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that's literally what she said. I did say that. 42 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: By the way, guys, we have Julie Ginger in the 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: motherfucking buildings. Julie Ginger real bb tell us what you 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: meant by that, because all right, look, there there are 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: levels to this ship. 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: When it comes to bbw's right, you've got your smaller baby, 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: you know, like they they got that little puge, they 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: got that little like small like crease, and then just 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: like not not a belly, that's a little BBW. And 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: then you actually, you know, like mid size that has 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: a little more, and then you're big, and then you're big, big, big, 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: you know, and they just keep going up and up 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: and up. The girl who won no shade, congratulations alex 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: As always. 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Where do you where do you place her? 56 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: She is just on that fucking cusp of not being 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: a BBW, oh, which I'll say not being so she's 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: She's gained a little since I've seen I've gained a. 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Little, which is crazy because even in the fashion world, 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: like they now have plus nized models, but it's more 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: of that like their toe You're twelve act was probably 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: the biggest plus side model I've seen. 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: I've seen some new ones come out lately. Yes, yeah, yeah. 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: When that page came out, I was like, oh, now, 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I still in my opinion, I'm like, 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: there's sting still kind of flat, but she was big, 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: bigger arms, like even height, like yeah, yeah. 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, let's be very clear. 69 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all have been listening to this podcast. That's the 70 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: very beginning. 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: I stood in my BBW motherfucking realm, and as soon 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: as I started losing my weight after Gastig, they said, oh, yeah, girl, 73 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: you're no longer BBW. Like as I was posting my 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: body positivity posts, they. 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Was like, oh no, bitch, we kicked you out. You're 76 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: not BBW anymore. 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: I remember during the I remember during the pandemic actually 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: going on clubhouse and there was a BBW room and 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: I got put on stage and there was plus size 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: influencers that literally was like, yeah, no, we don't even 81 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: know why you're up here. No more, you don't count 82 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: anymore type shit. And I'm like, bitch, you got me 83 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: fucked up. Mind you Still every fucking of the week 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: people are talking about my weight if they're watching. 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: On YouTube or all those things. 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: So I want to I want to lean back into 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: porn specifically, and even you as a BBW porn star 88 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 3: or content creative, We're going to get into your content. 89 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: Why do you feel that way about bbw's because I 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: did also peep you pulled all the real BBWs to 91 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: take a picture. And after we did the red carpet, 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: Weisey and I looked over and you could tell the 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: group of women that took a picture, we're all like 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: the real BBWs. 95 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: What does that kind of uh family or sisterhood look 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: like in the sex world space? It's hard. Actually, there's 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: a lot of people who don't like a lot of 98 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: other people, and I think that just comes from I 99 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: think in any entertainment industry, you're not gonna like everybody, right, 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: So it really comes down to just like when you 101 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: meet them in their journey in the industry, you know, 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: it's it's interesting because like, let's say, for instance, myself, 103 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: I'll talk about my my little journey. I wasn't the 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: most likable person back in my early stages. I had 105 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: to learn some shit, why what made you unlikable? Because 106 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: I was I was kind of being that pick me girl. 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hey, why aren't you working with me? Why 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: why are you working with these other bbw's but you 109 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: won't work with me? Pick me I'm here, you know, 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: like that type of else. 111 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I would say everything, but why are 112 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: you working with them and not me? But what's wrong 113 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: with asking someone. 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: For some people? Because some people don't know how to 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: say no or even respond too. So as a BBW, 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: I feel like I have such a limited pool of 117 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: people to work with as a as a creator. Right, 118 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: But back to you know, like the you know why 119 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: girls don't get along? It's just their personalities don't match, 120 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: or they hear something so that it's all hearsay. And 121 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: so what I really try to do as someone who 122 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: has had that happen to me, I just try to say, hey, look, 123 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: you want to get to know me, then get to 124 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: know me. Don't go buy off of what somebody else 125 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: was said or what my actions were five years ago. 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: I've grown, I'm different. I'm not the same that I was. 127 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Better know, they don't let bitches grow. They don't let I've. 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Done grow speaking, I'm still growing. I do want to know, 129 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: how is your weight fluctuated since starting porn? And when 130 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: it has, how's the money changed? Oh? 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: You know what, Honestly, I don't even think it's so 132 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: much about how much my weight is fluctuated. It's actually 133 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: how hard I put my work into my business. It's 134 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: not even about my weight most of the time. Like 135 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: I have guys that wanted me to be a feedie, 136 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: which means I'll eat, eat, eat right and grow grow grow. 137 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: I can't. 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: I also had the gastic surgery, but I wasn't as 139 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: successful as you have been, which which Gastrick, did you 140 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: leave you had to. 141 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Sleep as well? Yeah, my mom just had it, and 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: I think even on tour, so many of our fans 143 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: have chosen to have it. 144 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's not the easiest things psychologically. 145 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: At all, Like, yeah, when did you do it? 146 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: I did it in twenty fifteen, so this is two 147 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: years pre prior to getting into the industry. So I 148 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: was in a marriage. I was happy, be I'm gonna 149 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: quotate that because it wasn't happy at the end. 150 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Obviously it was not divorced, but have good relationship that 151 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: in she says, just call what it is, Okay, call 152 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: it what it is. 153 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: I was happy, I was happy, but when I decided 154 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: to do the surgery for myself, just so I can 155 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: maybe even be more happier, okay, right, because I was 156 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: having a hard time moving around and going out down 157 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: the stairs, like I was really finny. Although now it's hard, 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: but it's not as hard as it was because I'm 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: like one hundred pounds lighter. Oh wow, Yeah, but I 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: have gained back. I actually lost almost one hundred and 161 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: fifty pounds. 162 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: So can you not say that your surgery was then unsuccessful, 163 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: because that is a feat in itself. 164 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: You lost the whole human being I did. 165 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: I lost a whole lot of weigh and have gained though. 166 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: But the fluctuation part is it does. It comes with emotions, 167 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: it comes with situations that happen in the industry or 168 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: even in my life in general. But I have such 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: a close, deep like connection to my work that it's 170 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: almost just all the same. It's just all big one. 171 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm mean, what do you mean you. 172 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Have a deep connection. I don't mean that in a 173 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: condescending way. I mean, like, I've heard one other person 174 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: that works in like content adult contecreations that like, I'm 175 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: just so connected to my work, and I'm laughing. I'm like, 176 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: you what you. 177 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: Do honestly, Well, honestly, I just I love what I do. 178 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: And when I when I love what I do, you 179 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: can see it on camera. You can see it. It resonates 180 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: through all my work. 181 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Does it make you feel mean, what do you love 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: about it? Do you does it make you feel just 183 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: super sexy? Do you love? I just love. 184 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: I just love being able to fuck all these men 185 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: and women and just have a good time. It's my 186 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: only life that I get to live in this life, 187 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: can I ask? So I'm gonna live it and have 188 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: fun with it. 189 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: So, so two years before you started your content creation journey, 190 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: you got the gastric sleeve, you lost the weight, but 191 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: then also got into content creation as a BBW. 192 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: I was still a BBWs two hundred and ninety pounds. 193 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: So do you feel like leaning into the BBW category 194 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: also kept you maybe from losing more of that weight? 195 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: Probably definitely, because I think I wanted to make sure 196 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: that I was the audience and my audience and your 197 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: audience that wanted you. 198 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: Like, I think that that's the hard part. 199 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Like it's so weird because you have society. But also 200 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: I would. 201 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: Say, other women, more than anything, make you feel as 202 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: though you're unworthy of love or being fucked. 203 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: You feeling the most from that's a good thing. Yeah, 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Like do you feel it more for men or women? 205 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: When it's like what do you mean? Like just like 206 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: overall making you feel like your weight is too much 207 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: or hearn's way anything to me. 208 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's honestly for me. I get a 209 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: lot of hate from men, really I do. I get 210 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: a lot of like really bad comments on my techotox, 211 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: in my in my Instagram reels. I get some nasty one. 212 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: So publicly met Yes, absolutely, yes, personally it was women. 213 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: So it was women that when they found out I 214 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: was fucking the same men as them. The men would 215 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 3: tell me what these women would say about me, Oh, 216 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: they made it seem as though I should be lucky 217 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm fucking or they couldn't believe that the man that 218 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: they were fucking was fucking. 219 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: Me because oh my god, ill you like that? 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: And so personally, women, anytime they didn't like me, it 221 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: was always my weight, yes, my first attack and then 222 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: everything else, but my weight was always the number one 223 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: attack from women on a personal level. 224 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Again on the internet. 225 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Yet, right, men, no, I could say, you know for sure, 226 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: now that I think back to it, You're right. Women 227 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: do also have that vicious attack, like Eric, why are 228 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: you You're You're not supposed to have this hot ass man. 229 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: I have a story time with Julie, really quick, Come on, 230 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: we want to hear about a recent story too. Give 231 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: it to a fine ass man lives in Vegas. Oh girl, 232 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: let me tell you. When I a fine I mean 233 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: describe him six six muscular, he's like caramel tatted or 234 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: tatted up, big dick or not. Yes, well he lied, 235 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: he lied about something, and I'm not gonna a big liar. 236 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: How dare you? 237 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: So I'm waiting for him to come down to his 238 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: his building to come get me so he can go 239 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: up because I don't have access obviously like that. It 240 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: was in a nice place. Well, now you got money too, 241 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: let's go. He's hot, Okay, I'm sorry, that's a god damn. 242 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm waiting and there's this this, this skinny girl, 243 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: and she's waiting for her friend. So her friend comes in. 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm just chit, just nice. I'm a pleasant person. I 245 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: don't I don't give off bad vibes. 246 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: You know, Hey, how you doing? Oh yeah cool? 247 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: You yeah, you visited? 248 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: Cool? You know you're just. 249 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Trying to make conversation. He he That elevator door opens. 250 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just flashed back for a second. The 251 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: elevator door opens and He's standing there shirtless with these 252 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: just semi short shorts on, just looking fucking Oh. My 253 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: heart started raising. I looked at him, he looked at me. 254 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: They looked at him because they stopped because they were 255 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: before me. I let them go first. 256 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh, I know you. 257 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know that he was coming down like that though. 258 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: Girls uh huh uh. 259 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: They walk in and I walk around, and he comes 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: straight to me and wraps his arms around me and 261 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: kisses me. And these girls were appalled. They were you 262 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: felt the judgment. 263 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I felt the judgment. Hardcore? 264 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: Wow, hardcore, and we both him and I both looked 265 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: at each other and just burst out laughing after they 266 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: got off the elevator. I love that he felt that 267 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: they were looking. 268 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: He was like damn. He's like, damn. 269 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: I didn't think that they were going to react like that. 270 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: And I was like, do you realize how hot you are? 271 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: And do you realize who I what I look like. 272 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: They don't see that. They don't see that that's a 273 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: possible thing, that this man can be attracted to me 274 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: and want me over your skinny ass. 275 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: You know I did. He did a guy that was 276 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: super skinny, maybe like like that scrawnny with whis Kalifa 277 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: used to look like. And he told me that when 278 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: he had dated bbwi's in the past, I was like, 279 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: is this fucked up? Or is it No? 280 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Let's be very clear, the skinnier the nigga, the bigger 281 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: the bitch. 282 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: He told me, I don't like being out with women 283 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: that no one expects me to be out with. He's like, 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: I love it. He's like, I love girls staring at me. 285 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: I like niggas looking at me like I'm wrong. And 286 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: he's like, he's like, it's something about it, Like I like, 287 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: I just I'm out with someone they don't expect me. 288 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: But also loves me. 289 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Very clear that skinny niggas. 290 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: Don't want to start a fire with y'all tweeg as 291 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: bitch it. They want a little loving, a little more 292 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: cush push. 293 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Now they found that when you're dating these dudes and 294 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: or fucking them or whatever, it happens. Uh. We had 295 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: an episode recently about trans women and with trans women 296 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: and they were talking about feeling hidden and one of 297 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: my friends, who is BBW, was like, girl, I felt 298 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: so triggered because I feel like I have so many 299 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: dudes that want to fuck me and we don't go 300 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: out anywhere together. Have you experienced that recently or just 301 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: any time in your past and tell us a little 302 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: bit about it. Yeah. 303 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as as someone of my status now, 304 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I get a lot of people trying to you know, 305 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: hit me up, take me out, you know, things like that. 306 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: And I'm very. 307 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Selective about who I do that with just because I 308 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: can be right. But when I have, you know, like 309 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: allowed that to happen, sometimes I feel like I do 310 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: get judged a lot, you know, for being out with 311 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: somebody who's you know, really hot, or even if they're not, Like, 312 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I still get looked at because I'm a big girl. 313 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't. 314 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't get to not get looked at even when 315 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm walking. 316 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Even when I'm. 317 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Walking, like just anywhere I can be walking around New York, 318 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: people are looking at me. 319 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: I know they are. Have you I do I do 320 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: in a relationship where you knew it was just sexual 321 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: but that you guys didn't go out in public or 322 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: oh for sure? I think that. 323 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: I think that because of uh And I mean that's 324 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: this is recent. That's even with the six with six dude, 325 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: we've gone out and he's also gotten scrutinized when we've 326 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: been out together these women to his face, yes, wait 327 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: with me sitting there in the in this club we 328 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: went to after Hours. 329 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I love the stories. 330 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: Let's go, and we went to after Hours. I'm with him. 331 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: This is one of the first times he really like 332 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: hung out, like outside of the bedroom. 333 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Right. And so. 334 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: We're sitting there, I'm eating food, He's rubbing up on 335 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: me's touching on me, like making me feel like I'm 336 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: the best goddamn thing out there. 337 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Right, It's amazing. 338 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: And these women, this older woman had said to him, 339 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: without me hearing, you really don't have to be doing that. 340 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: You don't have to be selling your body, you don't 341 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: have to be doing this. They thought I paid him. 342 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: They thought I was paying him to be with me. 343 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Do you know who the fuck I am? Right right? 344 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: I thought he was a jiggalo. 345 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: They thought that you yes, yes, when it was nothing 346 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: but mutual fun. 347 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 348 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: And after that he said, hey, come on, let's go. 349 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: He was mad. 350 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: He was like, I'm total turned off he's and then 351 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: we just fucked for a long time. 352 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: How I feel like you've probably heard it all, But 353 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: when you hear it all, are you at this point 354 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: where like you can be blind to the bullshit. 355 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: I try to be because I don't want it to 356 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: to make my life unhappy. I don't. I don't want 357 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: to listen to the naysayers or the people who have 358 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: negative things to say. You know, I try to live 359 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: my life in a positive way. I really really do. 360 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: Back five years ago, not so much because I was 361 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: trying to figure out who I was in this industry 362 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: and even just as a person. And so over these 363 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: last five years, I've definitely grown and changed and just 364 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: don't listen to the bullshit and the negative things anymore. 365 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: And so when I go out with someone that's that hot, 366 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: I stand on my shit. I have that confidence now now, Yeah, 367 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: I wanted I didn't have it. 368 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: I want to wait. I wanted to ask you though, 369 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: when you were talking about people staring at you. We 370 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of content now surrounding people. Just I 371 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: feel like there's this weird Okay, have you seen the 372 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: girl that got on the airplane and was trying to 373 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: act like people were looking at her? She was wearing leggings. 374 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: And it feels like she's that really tiny yes, but 375 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: huge wide ass. 376 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I can't fit and 377 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: da da da da. People are making content like that, 378 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: almost like they're trying to get you to like set 379 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: of celebrating the business bigness. It's weird. But what I 380 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you was things like that. On an airplane, 381 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: where are people making you feel the most uncomfortable? 382 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've I've thankfully found an airline that gives 383 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: me a free extra seat so I don't have to 384 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 2: worry about being judged trying to get past people. I 385 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: used to feel really uncomfortable in an airplane. We're talking 386 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: what airing is that? 387 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: Southwest? 388 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, really they have for a person of size, 389 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: complimentary seat and I spill over most certainly, I do 390 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: so having someone and I've I've unfortunately been in that 391 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: situation where I'm I'm I'm all. 392 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: Like this, it's very uncomfortable. Oh my god. 393 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: Soya, no, no, no, people don't understand, like even if 394 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: you go back and watch episodes from twenty seventeen. I 395 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: got my my gastric sleeve in twenty eighteen. I remember 396 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 3: when I went out just with my coworkers, we went 397 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: to six Flags. I literally couldn't fit the rides at 398 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: six Flags. 399 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: I had to be. 400 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: Removed because they couldn't close the clamp on me. That's 401 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: when I decided it was time when I couldn't ride 402 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: roller coaster rides. And when people watched, they're like, you 403 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: weren't that big. You don't know, you don't like, you 404 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: don't understand. 405 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: And I was even telling her, sure you, well, well 406 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing why people don't know well, And on 407 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: five foot one, I was two thirty at my biggest 408 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: do the math. They literally couldn't close it over me 409 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: on the roller coaster rides. But also in terms of 410 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: flying in planes, where most people are like, I want 411 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: the x RO because it's more room, those are actually 412 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: also the seats that don't lift up. Yep. 413 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: So I remember me and my best friend one time 414 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: we both went to Miami and I had the x ROW. 415 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: She had something else, and I literally wanted to change 416 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: with her. She didn't want to change, and she didn't 417 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: realize that I literally wanted to change because I felt 418 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: so squad in the exit right and I had to 419 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: open to her that the little hands lifting let my 420 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: hips breathe. Baby, And having that airplane experience, having the 421 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 3: experience in the roller coasters, also living in New York 422 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: where boots don't go up my leg. 423 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: I have to bundle. 424 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: So now I look three hundred pounds even though I'm 425 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 3: like it was those things people don't consider when you're overweight. 426 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely, And you know what you're touching on 427 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: the roller coaster aspect is really funny because that's one 428 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why I want to lose weight 429 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: is because I want to be able to ride a 430 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: roller coaster. Again, I haven't written once since I was 431 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: like sixteen, so it's. 432 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Been twenty years. 433 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: Never have thought it's been twenty years since I've been 434 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: on a roller coaster. 435 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: Many talked about clothes a lot. We've been doing this 436 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: show year, so I'm always hearing you talk about clothes, booth. Yeah, 437 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: did not even think. 438 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: About like certain I see literally just activity or riding 439 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: a horse like I love horseback riding. 440 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: Haven't ridden a horse since I was a kid. Wow, 441 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: you know I just bought up six flags one of 442 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: my tricks. Yeah, blew me to I was Abu Dabi 443 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: with one of my tricks. Once we went to uh 444 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: Ferrari World, Okay, literally had to get off a ride 445 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: with my We left because it wouldn't close. 446 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: And they closed on him. 447 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Was so uncom It's uncomfortable. 448 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: It's you and you get looked at and you're like, oh, 449 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: don't look at me, Like I don't want to. I 450 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: don't want to draw attention. And that's one of the 451 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: biggest things as a big person, I think that we 452 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: try not to do is to draw attention. But you know, 453 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: with my my look, it's not easy to not draw attention, 454 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like I get looked 455 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: at no matter where I go, so and I don't 456 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable much anymore because I think I've grown so 457 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: used to being looked at that I just hey, it's me, 458 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: take it to leave. 459 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: It, get the fuck out, Like I don't care if 460 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 3: I want to make this positive just a little bit. 461 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: I want to get into our vanilla ship. 462 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so no no no is a. 463 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: Little positive because it's giving affirmations. We're about to get 464 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: into some affirmation. 465 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: I thought you wanted to bring up no, no, no oh, 466 00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I am. 467 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: Going to bring up the breakfast club. So so motherfuckers 468 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: just got dragged. I'm only gonna mention Charlemagne, not the 469 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: other person. So Charlemagne got dragged recently for bringing up 470 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: or speaking about Resa Tisa, who was popular with her 471 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: thing on TikTok, about her relationship with a pathological liar, 472 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: and he referenced that as big back behavior. Of course, 473 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: he later did apologize, called her big back but I 474 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: wanted to speak about with you, No, he called, he did, 475 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: he said, he said, he sounds like big back behavior, right, 476 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: and then literally then the other person who shall not 477 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: be mentioned, continue. 478 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Going on, called a Sheila from some goddamn show. 479 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: And then literally he did apologize later because of course 480 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: he is a mental health advocate. 481 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Way bitch that's looking at me? Because I hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, 482 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: the tip that I saw said she's reading him. 483 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: We can bleep that out. We can't say the girls 484 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: on the show, that's fine, were gonna bleep the name. 485 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Okay, she's going over the story. I'm that's right, that's right. Story. 486 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: And then Charletane' is listening and he's like, oh, this 487 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: sounds like big bead behavior. What she looked like facts? 488 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: But I didnt even hear him like look at her 489 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: say no, no, no, But regardless, hold on, bro, where's 490 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: the fucking line? Now? What line? He said that he 491 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: didn't call her. 492 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Fat, No, he said his big back behavior. 493 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: Okay. Then literally. 494 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: The person next to him said she a big bag. 495 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: She provided me up so it was confirmed. 496 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: On the side. 497 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: Then she goes a big girls Tisa goes on tammern 498 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: Hall show and lets it be known that with all 499 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: of this nice ouacklip, that that those words her the 500 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: most coming from that platform. By the way, Charlemagne, in 501 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: his due diligence, has sense apologized. Nonetheless, I want to 502 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: get on you to be a little mouthy, so you know, 503 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: I want to get into however, what are affirming words 504 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: for plus size women or women of stature? Because I 505 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: talk about it, and I did talk about it often 506 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: men A few men love to call me fluffy. While 507 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: we have had a guest come on and say I 508 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: love fluffy, Fluffy didn't really sit too well with me. 509 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: So I would love to know which words you find 510 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: to be affirming in and out of the bedroom for 511 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: men and women to describe a plus size. 512 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, there's always the go to volumptuous. 513 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: I feel like that someone's so fun to say you're 514 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: so volumptuous. It's like sexus volumptious girl, now is there? 515 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Hold on, is it bluious? Volumptuous? I like to say delicious? 516 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, ye delicious, yeah, volumptuous. 517 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: It could be it's a Julie word just. 518 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: To be that gotta be the I don't know the episode. 519 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: I like, I mean, I like being called kurvy because 520 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: you know, I you know, it's not negative, it's not 521 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: necessarily curvy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I 522 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: don't mind being called a big bitch because I am one. 523 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: I said about it, I'm a big bitch. That was 524 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: okay to say. 525 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: That's okay to say because we are, and any person 526 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: who is big doesn't accept that. And if you're like, 527 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: for instance, like yes I'm fat because I am. 528 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: It's just a statement. It's just what it is. 529 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: You know. Yes, I'm trying to be healthy, you know, 530 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 2: trying to shed some weight off me, but I'm I'm 531 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: a big girl. 532 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm fat. 533 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: So your partner in the bedroom or out can refer 534 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: to you as my fat bitch. 535 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Bring that fat ass over here like he's fat as 536 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: it says it in like a you know, very positive way. Sure, 537 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: but don't come up and say, ooh you fat, you know, 538 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: like with that negative tone, like you could say fat 539 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: in a positive way. I I hear some fat positive sentences. 540 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: Oh girl, that ass is so fat. Okay, yeah, but 541 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: that's PhD pH at. 542 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: It could be. It could be do p h A T? 543 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: Can it just asses? 544 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Because I feel like even because even so, it's how 545 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: you say the word, it's how you content. But the 546 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: reason why I also say the p h A T 547 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: is because going back back porn category, POGs right is right, 548 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: badass white girl? 549 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Right? 550 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: But it's literally spelled what a P. I think it's 551 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: just a. 552 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Fog is weird? Yeah, I really do know. 553 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's just contextual what it is. 554 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: If we put fat like the spelling that we're saying, 555 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: I feel like fog is weird. 556 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: But literally maybe fog makes sense. Yeah, okay, see pog 557 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: makes sense. Don't make no goddamn sense either, make whatever. 558 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: Let's get into that. You know, like, have you been. 559 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: Referred to as a talk about Paul, Yeah, I've been 560 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: for you the badass girl. 561 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: Let's like, yeah, that's a myth or not? Yeah? 562 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: Are you mainly. 563 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: Dating black men? And is it because you me? Why 564 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: do black men love big white girls? I don't know, 565 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: do you find that like white guys are just. 566 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: Not I never had sex with a black man until 567 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: I moved to Iowa and I was twenty one. Iowa, bitch, 568 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: those black people in Iowa. I lived in central Florida 569 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: when I was a teenager. Oh step up city. But 570 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: you know my white ass too, my pau gas mamla 571 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: ow calla. 572 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: You wasn't fucking black man? 573 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: You no, you wantn't know why because I wasn't. I 574 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: never really noticed that man. 575 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: Wait, she was married. I wasn't married yet. 576 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: I was a teenager girl, I was. I was only 577 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: like when I lived in Florida, I was between the 578 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: ages of twelve and twenty. Did you your identity when 579 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: you losked in Virginia at twenty years old? That's why, bitch, 580 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: you started earlier? 581 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: Knew? Did you? 582 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: Never had any black men really like press upon me though, 583 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I never really anybody like come 584 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: and be like yo, I'm way maybe, And I don't 585 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: think I was prettier back. I'm way prettier now than 586 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: I was back when I was younger. Like, hell, yeah, 587 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: I blossomed, come on, blossom you. So I'm like, I 588 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: feel like the eyes always get it. So yeah, I 589 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: moved to Iowa and met this guy and we started. 590 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Black guys one year after virginity. 591 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was, but that was only I 592 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: only that was like one and then like I only 593 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: mess with like white guys for a while, and then 594 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: like I married a white guy and then after that 595 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: it clicked. I went you said, these crackers, Yeah, oh 596 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: pretty much, these crackers. 597 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: What why? Why though, do you find that black men 598 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: are more like they do more body worship. They're they're 599 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: attracted to your body. 600 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: You're passionate and all all honestly, like even the white 601 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: guys are very vanilla. No white guy ever was with 602 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: was really like any black man I've ever been with, 603 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: swear to guy, Hey, hey, hey, it's too much, too much. Actually, 604 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm a very honest person. 605 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you know like it? 606 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: Well, well I would like to know Weezy bringing up 607 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: the body worshiping again. 608 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: As a by the way, I brought that up because 609 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: any friend I had that was big and they were like, 610 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: oh no, I always say that. 611 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: They used to love to rub my stomach, and of 612 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: course for me, it did make me uncomfortable. So in 613 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: body worshiping, specifically as as a plus size woman. 614 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: Where do you where do you like being touched? 615 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: Like? And what is okay? What is uncomfortable? I love 616 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: booty rubs. 617 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, no, who doesn't love a good booty rub? Right? 618 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't mind my stomach being rubbed on because I 619 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: think I've just gotten so used to it as time 620 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: has gone on that it has just become something that 621 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: happens with most guys that I hang out with or 622 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: that i'm with. Like I I'm very sensual when I'm 623 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: when I'm really into somebody, but like when I'm filming, 624 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know. 625 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: Doing my job. You know I don't. 626 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't usually gets unless I'm really into you. That's 627 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: pretty much where I'm at. But like, I don't mind 628 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: how my belly rubbed on. Like I rub on my 629 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: belly too, Okay, I slap it, I play bong gos 630 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: on it. But you know I'm yeah, I like to. 631 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Be touched all over touch melchool No. Wait, So I 632 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say, is there a fetish community that you've joined? 633 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: And by joining that? So, I had a super BBW 634 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: that I worked with, and she used to tell me 635 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: she would go to BBW party, She's like, but I 636 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: have to go to the super ones. I'm not. I'm 637 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: like almost too big for the regular ones. Are you 638 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: a part of a community and do you enjoy meeting 639 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: people there or do you feel like this it's too fetishy. 640 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the the porn industry with the bbw's, it's 641 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: its own little community in itself, and I'm cool. I 642 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: try to be cool with everybody, you know. Outside of that, 643 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: there are some like BBW bashes and events that I 644 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: like to attend that are not necessarily in connection with 645 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: the sex work industry. 646 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: So they're just like plus size acceptance type. 647 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Parties, and so like that's where I think I feel 648 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: like the most comfortable because it's just all all body types, 649 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: even girls, y'all sizes will come because it's so it's 650 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: just so inviting. So it's not just it's inviting because 651 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: we want everyone to feel accepted and comfortable, and if 652 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: we turn away people who aren't of size quote unquote, 653 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: then we're the hypocrites, right, you know, because then we're 654 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: basically shunning and shaming skinny people, and that's not I. 655 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: Don't know if you remember, do you remember when we 656 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: went to Jamaica, for hedonism. So Missy the New York 657 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: promoter that brought a lot of people there for that 658 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: specific weekend, she's plus sized friendly and that's I don't 659 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: know if you remember a lot of the people that 660 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: were there, but her her following does do that. Like 661 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: so they throw sex club parties and then hotel party 662 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: specific to men who love plus size women and plus 663 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: size women to feel comfortable in a room with they're 664 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: all over. 665 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: They shaming right like in that category. I know skinny 666 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: girls feel like they could be shamed too. I feel 667 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: like there's a small line. If you're Coiler Ray skinny, 668 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I do believe you could be body shame. People are 669 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: very mean to Coiler Ray, and it's like when you're 670 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, it looks like she's been that 671 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: way her whole life. She has that very like gymnast 672 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: Valerie thin thin body to me, that kind of thing. 673 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: When I see body shaming, I think it's fucked up, 674 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: just a little regular look. You can't be out here 675 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: saying I'm not thinking that I've spoken to this and 676 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: I kind of actually do not care who I offend 677 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: when I say this. In terms of people who do 678 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: feel like there's a skinny shaming happening. The difference in 679 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: the difference between fat shaming and skinny shaming is that 680 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: skinny people are able to still walk into stores and 681 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: fit the clothes. 682 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: They can still do everything that can happen by for data. 683 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: Their day to day life does not change because of 684 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: their size when people aren't I get it, but but 685 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: that's where like for me, when they try to compare 686 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: their plight to fat shaming, those are two separate things. 687 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: If you are skinny, don't come at a fat woman 688 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: and say, oh my god, I'm body shamed too. There's 689 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: not a There's zero comparison between someone being too small 690 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 3: and body shamed, maybe because someone is looking at them 691 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: not as sexually or whatever. Literally, their day to day 692 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: life can happen without their size affecting how they live. 693 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: I would agree. 694 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: I've just I brought up coiler Ray because that was 695 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: some of the meanest shit I've seen recently, Like I 696 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: would even equate it to the way that Lizzo can't 697 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: post a picture without them talking about her body. Don't 698 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: I see one nice thing about Coilerat, who's cute, adorable, 699 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: kadance and she raps it was like boom boom boom. 700 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean on that shit would make me insecurious about 701 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: especially because you're in the world where the rapper girls 702 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: need to be thick. Let's be very clear. 703 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cardi also just dropped her last video and the 704 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: way they spoke about Cardi's body. 705 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: No Cardian and color no no no. But what I'm 706 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: saying is coilor ra is that but. 707 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: People talking about BBLS, people talking about skinny shaming, I 708 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: one hundred percent will stand on it is nowhere near 709 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: the f shaming experience and the actual experience of someone 710 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: who is plus size. 711 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: It's true, it really, I'm not saying it's not. I'm 712 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: just saying I do think that level of skinny has 713 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: definitely no just human suck. But that's car being shamed. 714 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: Human suck. Now, that's just to be very human. Yeah, 715 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: we have to think of the prototype of what people 716 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: think the perfect body is in this era, you know, 717 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: but there is no perfect There is no perfect body. 718 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: But that's there is no perfect body. And you can't 719 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: tell everyone to do the same makeup that you can't 720 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: tell girls that are showing the same doctor. 721 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: But there's the delusional is also subjective. 722 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: Let's be very flee because the same way you have 723 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: men that like you at whatever size you've been. 724 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: Now because you've shaped, you've changed your side. 725 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: The same with me. 726 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: I really think that the men who are hold on 727 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: I'm being serious. 728 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: You really think in the era of today, beauty is 729 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: subjective according to the Internet. I think that in reality, yes, 730 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: this is true, but there isn't clear standard of what 731 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: girls like to look like today. 732 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I'm gonna say that, not anymore. 733 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: It's subjective because you still have those that fallen over 734 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: the BBL. 735 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: We are now getting into the natural girl era. We 736 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: also have people who. 737 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: Have gone to the BBL and remove those I think 738 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: it's shifting. But bro, the Kim Kardashian era of the look, 739 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: the eyebrow, the hair, even I don't know. I definitely 740 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: think there's a way that society has pushed girls to 741 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: kind of look at too. 742 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: I also think it depends on your city. Even me 743 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: going to the to the to the Midwest. With tonight's conversation, 744 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: the girls that you clearly know was like them. Girls 745 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: look completely different than the girls that we're gonna see 746 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: in New York or. 747 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: Atlanta or La or La. 748 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 3: It depends where you're at as well, and option Base. 749 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: What up bread Brendon, y'all make sure you get your 750 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: tickets now. 751 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: May fifth, we are at the Earth Theater in London's 752 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: and we made this a specific request to be in 753 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: London on the weekend so that our all of our 754 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: euro people can come and see this. 755 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: We want our whole Europe and Europe pull. 756 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: Whatever, all the black people that live over there, just 757 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: take that another fucking Eurostar and come and see us. 758 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna be there. May fifth. We are having a 759 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: whole new show, one that you didn't see. This is 760 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: a part of the Climax tour. So even if you 761 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: were on the Climax Tour and you need a little trip, 762 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be warmer, it's gonna be fun. 763 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: Come through and see a that's right. Make sure you 764 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: head on over to hohrehive dot com and get your 765 00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: tickets now. 766 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of though, we got bananas here, I want to 767 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: get into our motherfucker hoard dirt because baby, you said 768 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: you about to show us some things. 769 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: Am I? 770 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, our hoar drive portion of the pot is 771 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: where oh wait you I face say, I I say 772 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: I was gonna put a banana in my mouth, you 773 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 3: feel me? Hold on not the producer like everyone your hair. 774 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: She's okay. 775 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: So, by the way, I learned this literally from the 776 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: Discovery channel. Y'all both opened it wrong. 777 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: Banana bottle the body. Oh, this is the this is 778 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: the girl. 779 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: See. 780 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: I opened up mine looking really good. So I know 781 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: what your problem is perfect birth, sof not mine already 782 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: being a little brown. It knew I like some brown, 783 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: bad brown. 784 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: She will okay, all right, give us your dick tea chest, 785 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: give us your dick sucking tip. 786 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: First of all, who doesn't love a good banana. 787 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: That's a good curve, isn't it. That's what I'm saying. 788 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: Like I had an ex boyfriend with the perfect curve 789 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 2: and this was it, damn And I loved it because 790 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 2: it was like the perfect down the throat action, straight 791 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: and narrow for me. 792 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: Know, I like to give a little I get a 793 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: little lick. Oh you do the giggle. That's very porny. 794 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: You giggle. 795 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: Wait, you giggle on the Okay, wait is that one 796 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: of your you giggle on the test. They like watch 797 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: to watch my porn to find out, I guess. 798 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, Also, wait, I need you to moan 799 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: and talking to this mike while you do this. Come 800 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: on production, let me audio experience a little bit. 801 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: So for me personally, when I'm when I'm doing it right, 802 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: like I like to lick on it and like tease 803 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: it because it kind of you know, gives that sensuality. 804 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: But when you're ready, when you're ready. 805 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you just kind of h. 806 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: Mmm, I like to like you like talking here, you 807 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: love that ship way you talk. You fake talk on 808 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: a dick. Sometimes I like to gag, but you know 809 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: this isn't quite as thick as what most. 810 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: Right now lunch right now. No, I love having that 811 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: mmmm hmm m oh, it's so good. 812 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, so talking so you tease, that's a 813 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: part of your poor play. 814 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean okay. 815 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: They want to they want to have that, you know, 816 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: same you know type of like you know, how long. 817 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: Do you sease before you actually go ham? Because how 818 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: long is it before you childish? And he's like, bitch, 819 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 3: if you don't suck this guy down. 820 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: It just depends on the vibe and the energy that 821 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: they give off or like the way they either maybe 822 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: moan or. 823 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: How hard they get. I guess like that's a good yeah, 824 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm realizing, like sometimes the teasing can make it 825 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: even harder. 826 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: Yes, you know like that that that that line part, 827 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: like right where the whole kind of makes that mush. 828 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: I don't Yes, I like to lick and touch and 829 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: play with that part because I've noticed it sometimes and 830 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: it depends on the guy. It makes them super hard 831 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: and but sometimes you just have to swallow the dick 832 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: to get them hard to. I don't know, it's weird. 833 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Men are weird with your dicks. There is there a 834 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: conversation that you have at all to see how this 835 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: man probably likes to be pleased from the stick, Like 836 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: what what are questions you ask in regards to do 837 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: you prefer hands? Do you like it messy? 838 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: Like? Kind of what are those conversations? Depends on the 839 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: guide to you. Sometimes they come ready and sometimes I don't. 840 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: Have to worry about that. 841 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: But you're right too. Let me know you like me right? 842 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: Do you think you can do you think I could 843 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: take this all the way down my throat? 844 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: Hold on? 845 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 2: How many hits of the five? 846 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: About five? 847 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 2: I was about to say, No, this is this between 848 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: my finger and thumb is like five inches like you yeah, 849 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: to the back of your throat. 850 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, who four star bitch? Oh and brought 851 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: having the back at me because she's choking. Oh, I'm sorry, guys, 852 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: she said. She gag goes down. 853 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna eat it. 854 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh no more. 855 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: No, he was red my face. I know, I'm good. 856 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 2: It just broke off, so I had to like get 857 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: it up some sorry about. 858 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: I've watch so many videos where like pain and no 859 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: one helped. 860 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: By the way men like that, not the not the 861 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: Oyes water y'all, y'all. 862 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: Bro I almost choked last night. And while I was choking, 863 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: I stopped and he goes, do you think I give 864 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: a fuck about? I was like, oh my god, this 865 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: is such a meaning I like. 866 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: I liked I honestly. Okay, So one of my one 867 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: of my kinks is I like to choke on dick 868 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: so much that makes me like almost pass out. Okay, 869 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: so it's hot. I don't know, but I was sucking 870 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 2: since I was fourteen. So I mean, I'm just an 871 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: expert at this place. 872 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: And it took you six years? 873 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah we both did, bitch, it did? 874 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: It took me six years? 875 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: Hears the ship out of me, like with team pregnancy, 876 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: and can I also be can I also be very serious? 877 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: This is why they call women like you Becky, Like 878 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: y'all would. 879 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: Suck dick really early, like you know you you definitely 880 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: proved that myth, right, Okay. 881 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 2: Wow, So I want to just kind of ask you 882 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more about this. 883 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I need to tell somebody that look 884 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: at this. 885 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 3: I know, so I know about sucking dick until you 886 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 3: throw up? What is sucking dick until you almost passed out? 887 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: It's like you get to the point where like your 888 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: airflow is like obviously you're cut off, right, and then 889 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: you kind of start like seeing stars. And then that's 890 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: when I how does he know? 891 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: Like? 892 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: What is? What is? He don't need to know. It's 893 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: my job to know. 894 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: It's my king. 895 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: You don't need to know. He just needs to enjoy it. 896 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: So what do you? 897 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: What do you do? 898 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: What is your Do you push him off of you? 899 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 2: Do you? You know? I just I just pull off. 900 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: And you know, cause I usually tell most guys I'm 901 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: in control here, you're not. I'm the one who's exactly 902 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: it's my dick that I'm sucking, and you're gonna you're 903 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it, and I have no complaint. 904 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: Have you never? Have you ever passed out my accent yet? 905 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: No? 906 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Never? 907 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: I mean, okay never, I'll never let that happen because 908 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: I've learned and controlled it and been doing it for 909 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: so long that I've learned to control like the like 910 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: I wonder my. 911 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: Cause I don't see stars. I just get a little 912 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: my focus kids glory. Then that's that's a. 913 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: That's a. 914 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: That's about the right point. 915 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 2: I be hating, bitch, I just got my last is done. 916 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: Don't maybe cry. I don't let my eyes water. I 917 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 2: don't like the gag. I fake gag right on the tip. 918 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 2: I do like that. Oh god, you have to make 919 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 2: me uncomfortable. Don't touch my head. It just got done. 920 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: Did you pay for this? 921 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: Actually? You know something I want to say that I 922 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: think a lot of women don't know about too much 923 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: spit or gagging. If you have it so sloppy to 924 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 1: the point where they can't feel it, men need friction. 925 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: It can't be Yeah, it can't be totally destroyed. And 926 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: also it'd be going down their booty crack like you 927 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: kind of that's what they like, and you saying booty 928 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: crack on motherfuckering horrible decisions like we ain't motherfucker goes 929 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: bootlehole every man in this real wolf Do you like 930 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: that at in? I mean no, no, no, no dude. 931 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: Do you want to spit going to your boothhole? 932 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: I love it? Answer you don't like it either. I'm 933 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: telling you I'm not going no no, no. It's not 934 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: like they play it. Couldn't stand up stuck great, then 935 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable for men. It's different if. 936 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 2: You're in it, so I ain't gonna hold you though. 937 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: That's where I've let my tip go. 938 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: If you really is sucking and making making it so 939 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 3: wet that now my spit is. 940 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: Going down to your to your boot hole. 941 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: What I like to do. That's where I like to use. 942 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: My my knuckles. Now that's no, I'm not playing with 943 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: one knuckle. Don't look like that. So the knuckle is 944 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: just to where it's moist crazing. It's not crazing. I'm 945 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: just grazing. And technically it's like Winch shield wipers in 946 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: the bouta crack. 947 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a thing. If he's fully naked, then 948 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: I'll do it. If there's the gens are on, if 949 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: we're in the car if you just pulled it down 950 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: a little bit, you can't be making that much of 951 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: a mess, right. 952 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 3: You have to know when to make the mess and 953 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 3: when not to make the mess. That's a fact, iful, Okay. 954 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 3: And the other day I was stuck in this dick 955 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 3: and I said, sir, I have a full face on. 956 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: If you don't take your goddamn wife beater and Khaki's off, 957 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: my whole face about. 958 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 2: To be all. 959 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: You got to get naked. 960 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: You gotta be maked. Can this face is beat and 961 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 2: it will end up on you? 962 00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 963 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: And I told Kaki the white beater got to come 964 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: off playing. My mouth is like a waterfall, so like 965 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: I have to tell them. I put a towel underneath 966 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: their ass and say, hey, look you're about to have. 967 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 2: Mouth is a water You're about to have one of 968 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: the sloppies blowjobs you've ever had. So I'm please it 969 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: on a towel, so we're good. I don't get my 970 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: bed wet or you know whatever. 971 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, hunt, I. 972 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: Have literally two two waterproof like towels that I bring 973 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: with me. Wait, you travel with waterproof towels? I have 974 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: to because of your head game. I'm so in you're 975 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: a squirter. I was trying to say, but my head 976 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: game is sloppy. It's it's really good. 977 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 1: So I'm only seeing one of your videos. 978 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 3: Well, I gotta watch all the other ones. I would 979 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 3: love to know real quick. Yes, you know that you 980 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: are a squirter. You know that your head is sloppy. Yes, 981 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: you travel with waterproof towels. Can you please narrate how 982 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 3: you have to lay this down prior to having sex 983 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 3: with maybe a new partner. 984 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 2: That isn't a word, like, how do you even let 985 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: them know gott to. 986 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: Lay the soul? 987 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: I mean I just basically say to them, hey, I squirt, 988 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 2: I laid down this towel to help keep everything dry. 989 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: I hope that's cool. And a lot of times they're like, yeah, 990 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: that's cool. They're like yeah, all right, nobody. 991 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: You're scene and scene and scene and saying I have 992 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: a whole mail that I wanted to bring up because 993 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: it's all about fetishizing. I want to know where the 994 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: line is right. So the whole mail was actually something 995 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: a listener sent in to me, okay, and I was like, okay, 996 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: it'll be a little tea. I'll read it to the Pika. 997 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: She really thought, I don't know. I feel like she 998 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: really was trying to check me, and I thought it 999 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: was weird just to check you. But also at the 1000 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: same time, I was like, I guess I see why 1001 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: she said it. I don't know. Oh fuck, I can't 1002 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: find her name. Keep talking, keep talking. 1003 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, before we get into whole mail, there were 1004 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: some things that I just wanted to bring up wrapping 1005 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 3: up the horrible decision. So I did end up looking 1006 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 3: up size kinks, okay, And I just kind of wanted 1007 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 3: to run through a few in case someone was interested 1008 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 3: in searching certain categories. What they can expect in those 1009 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 3: sup size kink, of course comes from Urban Dictionary, because 1010 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 3: maybe they made it simple for us. That's being turned 1011 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 3: on or aroused at a distinct difference in size and 1012 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 3: comparison to your partner. Usually this does include, by the way, 1013 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 3: it's not just weight. It also includes height. It includes 1014 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 3: muscle size as well as penis size. It is generally 1015 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 3: used when referring to a submissive being turned on by 1016 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 3: being smaller than their partner. And I wanted to talk 1017 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 3: to you about that because where we normally think of 1018 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 3: sub and dom in a somewhat physical way, or how 1019 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 3: you speak to someone or how you adhere, maybe some 1020 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 3: sort of slapping or abuse. 1021 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: Men then who normally want to deal. 1022 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 3: With you, how do you feel like they enter into 1023 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 3: their submissive role being that you're normally larger than them 1024 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 3: in size or stature. 1025 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 2: A lot of times they want me to smother them, 1026 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 2: and so they'll be up underneath me, and so I'm 1027 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: able to assert my dominance that way by putting all 1028 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 2: my weight or just sitting my big ass on their 1029 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: face like they want, no, no, she ain't killed nobody. 1030 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: How do you do they do? 1031 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 2: You have to see usually they tap or well push 1032 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 2: my push me up off, like there's breath. Play is 1033 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 2: a huge kink when it comes to size play as well. Okay, 1034 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 2: I've had people ask me to do giant test content 1035 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not even I'm not I'm under six foot. 1036 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 2: But there's certain angles you can do, right, you know 1037 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: for that, but like you know, small giant, explain what that? Yeah, 1038 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 2: So basically giant, it's like, uh, let's say, for instance, 1039 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 2: I have like a little little person, right, it's that side. 1040 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: It's like a figuration. 1041 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 2: It's like a figurine, like a little figurine person, right, 1042 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 2: and so people a lot of times will have the 1043 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: camera situated to a way it looks makes me look 1044 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: really tall, and this person obviously is small. 1045 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: It's right. 1046 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 2: I have had people ask me to squash gummy bears 1047 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 2: to represent small people and then turn around and eat 1048 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: them so that they are stuck in my tummy for 1049 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: forever and ever, like giant. You ain't even, you ain't even. 1050 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: They just wanted you to smash some gummy beer. 1051 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm mad. 1052 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: Custom custom videos are a really big thing in the 1053 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: plus size and even regular sex community. But plus size, 1054 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 2: you know, big girls, we get a lot of the 1055 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 2: really crazy, like what are. 1056 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: Some of the other weird requests you've gotten? Let's get it, 1057 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: sawdy fluid stuff? 1058 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: How weird is at this point it's not, but we're 1059 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 2: talking the other one plus the menstrual cycle ones. 1060 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: What about the ship? What do I want you to 1061 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: do with the ship? 1062 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, what they want you to do. Oh, 1063 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 2: I've had people ask me to eat it. I've had 1064 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 2: people ask me. 1065 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: To you for that. 1066 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 2: It depends it's how much I charge, how much how 1067 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 2: much you charge? So you never, oh never. 1068 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: So that's a hard note. 1069 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 2: But that's a hard note for me. But there are 1070 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: females that will do it. Yep, there are females who 1071 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: will actually do sessions with men. We've talked about that, right, 1072 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 2: who will eat the ship? It's what's the going rate 1073 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 2: for eating your own ship? I don't know because I 1074 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: don't do it well. How much they done offered you? 1075 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: And oh no, how much I would like? How much 1076 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: I would charge? I don't even know. 1077 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: You don't know that number. You don't know that number 1078 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 2: personally because I've I've never had waity. 1079 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: How much? 1080 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: How much would you charge? You know? You should reach 1081 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 2: out to You should reach out to Goddess Nadia, god. 1082 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: Scat person. Okay, that is her like her bread and butter. 1083 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: So you you said no to that? I would love 1084 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: to know before we get into this home mail. 1085 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 3: What is the weirdest request you received that you agreed 1086 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 3: to and how much did you get for it? 1087 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 2: Quite honest with you, I've really not done anything that 1088 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable with doing. But I can tell you 1089 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: one of the most eye opening obscure ones was a 1090 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 2: man wanted to pay me ten thousand dollars to step on. 1091 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: A live animal. 1092 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 2: We hear that, why do we hear that someone. 1093 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: Is a big fetish? What was the animal? 1094 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 2: It was? 1095 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 1: It was just what a small something small? 1096 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: If you wouldn't I would have stepped on my motherfucking 1097 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 3: aunt for ten thousand. 1098 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, I don't have the has to have the anatomy 1099 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: to be able to break and scrush, and so I'm 1100 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: thinking something like making a mouse or something. And to me, 1101 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 2: I'm so against that, Like I was really like appalled, 1102 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 2: but so intrigued by it, just because I'm like, I've 1103 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 2: never had anybody asked me to do this. 1104 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: I know what you want me to ring U right now. 1105 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: I went to a fucking DVD store where they had 1106 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of animal porn. It's called Blue Door DVD. 1107 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: It's on Seventh Street. We were literally walking to a bookstore. 1108 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: I mean, not be Karsha, I mean. 1109 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 2: We go in. 1110 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, man, let's pick a porn. So 1111 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: we get through the aisles and one of the aisles 1112 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: has animals. Oh my god. Right, we go to the 1113 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: next aisle and we're like, oh shit, like four fucking 1114 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: tears of animal porn. The place is known for animal porn, 1115 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: like wait, wait Dog was one of the titles. Oh wait, wait, 1116 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: they were fucking animals wait BC reality. But also the 1117 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: smushing was smushing was in there too. Wow. 1118 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: And that's the biggest and the craziest one. The other 1119 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: ones have been more scat related, and because my ass 1120 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 2: is so big so that they want to see that. 1121 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 2: You know, I've done some scat videos, but it's more 1122 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 2: just the act of but not me doing anything with it, 1123 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: no touching, nothing like that. 1124 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: Like how much do you get paid to ship on camera? Charge? 1125 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: Like four hundred for the video? Shit? Yeah? Yeah, damn. 1126 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the ship come out of your butt? 1127 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you? 1128 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: By the way, I looked at my own ship on 1129 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: a camera. I went to a toilet. It went to 1130 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: a toilet. You don't know. This is the first time 1131 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: I've ever seen my own ship, not just looking at it. Wait, 1132 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: it's called Rise Nation. It's a gym. It's not that great. 1133 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like pub them, but they have 1134 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: a it's a gym and tribecker and basically there's mirrors 1135 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: all over the bathroom down to the floor, right, And 1136 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: of course I'm not sitting my ass doat on the toilet, 1137 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: so I'm shitty and I'm looking at like, oh, bro, 1138 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: that's nat. I'm like, oh my god, this is so 1139 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 1: fucking hold you. I've never seen it before. I apologize 1140 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: at the end for any of y'all niggas listened to 1141 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: eating lunch. The fuck niggas be at work, bro, Sorry, 1142 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: now y'all going to y'all gotta ship your coffee out anyway. 1143 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 1: I know you listen go in there real quick and 1144 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, how much does it cost to 1145 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: do a class? And they'd be like, can use your bathroom? 1146 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: Watch yourself ship. It's the most interesting interesting. 1147 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 2: It was crazy did your did your did your bootle 1148 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 2: hole rosebud girl? 1149 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: Anyway, it was a simple ship. It was a clean ship. 1150 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It's like a McDonald's ice cream machine. 1151 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 2: For me. 1152 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 1: It's very clean. It's just right out, it's done. 1153 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm not funny because but you want 1154 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 3: to drink fucking matching asta e bowls like I know 1155 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 3: you be shit. 1156 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm two times today bad bro. Let me tell you, 1157 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: speaking of as much as I be shitting, I'm going 1158 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: on my longest trip with a dude ever minus when 1159 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: I lived in Mexico. My EXE. We're going to Hawaii 1160 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: for a week, and all I kept needing myself is like, 1161 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: how am I gonna act like I have to keep 1162 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: taking phone calls? I don't want to share. I'll just 1163 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: go do it. 1164 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: No, your I ain't gonna hold you. When me and 1165 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 2: my eggs was together, baby in the morning, you're taking 1166 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 2: a shower. Baby, I'm shitting shitt want you in the shower? 1167 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: See? 1168 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 2: But that? How well, how comfortable are you with this 1169 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 2: person though? 1170 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: You gotta be fucked up? 1171 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 2: How comfortable are you see my ass that night? 1172 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: Anything with him? Except it's just it's not the comfortability 1173 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: for me. It's just like I don't want him to. 1174 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 2: See you can't believe he knows that you're a human being. 1175 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: Okay. So speaking of damn, why is the hair everywhere 1176 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: all over this pillow? Okay? 1177 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 2: So now let's get it. 1178 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: Here's this girl who gave me a read, but I 1179 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: don't feel like the read was worthy. Okay. So she 1180 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: has been listening to Horrible for a long time and 1181 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: said this in after listening to the episode about the forsome. Okay, 1182 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: we're at a fourthsome in Mexico with the two with 1183 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 1: the lesbian couple with one of which I kept calling 1184 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: the butch bitch. 1185 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: Which I don't feel like that was a slur. 1186 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: It's not like I called her the one we need 1187 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: to believe that anyways. I used to really enjoy the podcast, 1188 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: but recently feel like Wheezy has been reckless when it comes, 1189 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: incredibly reckless when it comes to a narrative she has 1190 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: about settling down listening to beginning episodes versus now, it's 1191 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: just disappointing. This episode put the nail on the coffin, 1192 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: and it was the foresome discussion. When you allowed your 1193 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: man to fetish size another gay person and also allowed 1194 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: yourself to be fetishized by white women, it just didn't 1195 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: seem to align with the person you've portrayed yourself to be. 1196 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this shit to y'all to be disrespectful, 1197 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: but as a dedicated listener, it was really disappointing to 1198 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: hear how to hear Wheezy's side on this podcast. I 1199 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: hope if y'all see this, you can be more considerate 1200 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: of the narrative you create around your sexuality, because it's 1201 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: not giving safe space the way it used to. 1202 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh now, interesting, no, bitch, you responded, I want oh yeah, ye, 1203 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read my oh okay rail response. 1204 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: The foursome conversation basically was about this lesbian couple that 1205 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: wanted to fuck us, and we wanted to fuck them. 1206 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 1: First episode of the year, I want to go back. 1207 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: He was like super interested because the girl had never 1208 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 1: had sex with a man. He was like, Oh my god, 1209 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: this is. 1210 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 2: An opportunity to do something that you know, I'll never 1211 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: get to do the next thing I don't remember me 1212 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 2: for life and forever right exactly, And so it was like, 1213 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 2: oh shit, like this is okay. So I said, I 1214 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 2: had so much fun. 1215 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: I lived in the moment. I don't think anything was 1216 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 1: wrong with him having a fantasy about fucking a mask lesbian, 1217 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: especially when that's never you know, has It's so clear 1218 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: that I was considered of them and their feelings and 1219 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: us being a safe space to experience a hetero couple 1220 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: that I really don't know how much I better could 1221 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: have handled the situation the four of us mutually wanted 1222 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: to be in. For example, one of them started getting emotional. 1223 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: He didn't notice because he's fucking enjoying pussy. But I 1224 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: literally stopped left, went in the bathroom and comforted her 1225 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: while she was crying. She wasn't uncomfortable about him being 1226 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: there was more hard provocating, but anyway, So in the scenario, 1227 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: there was a few situations with them, like gawking over him, 1228 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: and then she talks about this. Appreciate the acknowledgment. Still 1229 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 1: a fan. Didn't mean any disrespect. We're not going to 1230 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: agree on everything. I wanted to say my peace. Didn't 1231 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: think you'd respond. It was really the language and actions 1232 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: playing in his hair and the fixating on her never 1233 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: have been with a man. It was a bit hard 1234 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: to listen to as a gay woman who's been fetishized. 1235 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: That's how I interpreted it. I'm sorry, when are we 1236 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: going to ever be able to explore anything? Then? Yeah, 1237 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: like I understand how she might feel because guys have 1238 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: probably made her feel uncomfortable. Bijon, think you heard me 1239 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: when I say nobody's wanted to fuck anymore on anyone 1240 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: more on the planet than these two bigees want to 1241 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: fuck us. They were ridiculous. So they're fetishizing us, whether 1242 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: it's black chas dreads us being straight, whatever it was, 1243 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: Why couldn't we do the same, and also, why is 1244 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: it super unhealthy to fetishize anything. And so that's why 1245 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to have this conversation with you, because I'm like, 1246 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone wanted to fuck you just because of 1247 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: yourself absolutely all the time. When the time, when is 1248 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: it okay and not okay? 1249 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,439 Speaker 2: I think it's on how you how you how someone 1250 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 2: comes and approaches you about it. I think it's about 1251 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 2: the approach and about the conversation you have about it. 1252 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 2: Like there are guys that all the time, you know, 1253 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: they'll gawk over you. Oh my god, you're so big. 1254 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 4: I just can't. 1255 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 2: You know, I've never been with a big girl before. 1256 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to try it. That's the biggest line 1257 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: I get all the time. 1258 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,959 Speaker 1: And you don't like that line. Honestly, I don't. 1259 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 2: I don't really care anymore. I really have gotten to 1260 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: that point where I'm like, I know I'm a big girl. 1261 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna get fetishized. I kind of just 1262 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 2: start like going, okay, yeah, I get it all right, 1263 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, and I just kind of like try to 1264 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 2: just not be mean because I get where. 1265 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 1: They're coming from. 1266 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm I know I fetishized black men sometimes, I know 1267 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 2: I do, and I don't mean to but I. 1268 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: Get so attracted or I get so like, oh my god, 1269 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: oh my, oh my god, oh my god, what is big? 1270 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 1271 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 2: Like, I know, I do the same thing most definitely 1272 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 2: without anything, without any malice, without any malice. It's never 1273 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: any malice. And behind my fetish sizing. So you've been 1274 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: able because you know that you look at maybe black 1275 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: men that way. 1276 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: As a white woman, you're just like, I'm not going 1277 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: to demonize someone for fetishizing me as a bigger. 1278 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well either way, you know she's white. 1279 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: Was really honest, I I. 1280 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 2: And I don't want that to come off as me 1281 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: being like rude or saying you know that's I do 1282 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: it all the time. No, it happens occasionally. It's not 1283 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: like I do it all the time. Sometimes I just 1284 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: see something that I like and i've you know, I'm like. 1285 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like I think the mutual fetishizing too, right, Yeah, 1286 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: let's say that it is because you're white or because 1287 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: you're big or whatever. I felt like in this moment 1288 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: when I read that, I was like, damn, I really 1289 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: and no one else had wrote me saying that they 1290 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 1: felt like we were wrong. And I also made a 1291 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: comment because she did say something about his hair or 1292 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: touched it or almost touched it, I can't remember. But 1293 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 1: I literally went over to him in the middle of 1294 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: it and said, are you okay? Like is this do 1295 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: you want to go? Because bitch, that's too much. Yeah. 1296 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Now he was like, it's okay, it's okay. They're drunk, 1297 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: they're excited. Like he even stopped me. So I checked 1298 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: in with him because I wasn't prioritizing the two girls. 1299 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I did feel like it was 1300 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: a mutual fetish thing. I never slept with a lesbian 1301 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: couple with a lot of women, but like one saying 1302 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: she was Mormon, oh the one never been. 1303 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my, this is this isn't fucking 1304 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 2: if this isn't if this isn't the opportunity of a 1305 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: lifetime to know like that, I don't know what is. 1306 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I think. 1307 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 2: That's why I think like people should start taking more 1308 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 2: of those opportunities. It's not being so scared, you know, 1309 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 2: like if if you feel like if this person on 1310 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 2: your Instagram is saying that they feel this way, that's 1311 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: one that's one person's opinion, right right. 1312 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: You had a good time. They had a good time. 1313 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Your dude's good, right. That was the first thing I 1314 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: lad with, I said, I had. I lived in such 1315 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: the moment. We had sex with them within thirty minutes 1316 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: of that club. Never forget that. I was like, Yo, 1317 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: should we stop and have a snack too? Was like no, 1318 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 1: I really thought so they did. 1319 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 2: It as much to you as as maybe y'all may 1320 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 2: have done it to them. 1321 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: It was definitely mutual fetishes. And I do think that 1322 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: shit is that's what we're saying. I said, well, maybe 1323 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: mine wasn't as bad, but maybe if it's like an 1324 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Asian girl or a black girl, maybe it's bad. Then 1325 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well why do they make the race thing? Okay, No, 1326 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: it's all kind of if it's mutual. Listen, I'm a 1327 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: super dark skin friend, right, a girl model, very dark, 1328 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: And she's like, girl, what is up with me? Wanted 1329 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: to fuck these vampy looking, pale white boys. And I 1330 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: laughed about it, and she's like, oh my god, it's 1331 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: like the ones that don't even turn red, they just 1332 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: get a little blue if they're like outside of the well. 1333 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: And she was like, I like that shit, And I'm like, oh, 1334 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: my God, And I know somebody wants you because you're 1335 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: super dark. So it's like, yeah, now one is obviously 1336 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: more oppressed than the others. That's why then you get 1337 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: your PC Olympics. But I think as long as we 1338 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: understand that there may be a fetish and we feel comfortable. 1339 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you absolutely. I know I get fetishized. 1340 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 2: I know that I fetishize people, you know, even sometimes women. 1341 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 2: I look at y'all sometimes and I'm. 1342 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Just like, hold on, Juliane, that's you want to podcasters 1343 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 1: help you to find episode. 1344 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 2: Hey, Lizen, I can't help asking both ways. All right, Hey, 1345 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 2: I like what I like, I audius. 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Ye. 1364 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 2: I love it in specific King so yeah, only fans, 1365 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I love it, well, cocky, that's one thing I really 1366 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 2: want to do Detroit area and I would love to well. Guys, 1367 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 2: thank y'all for tuning in. 1368 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 3: As you always know, we have our bonus content over 1369 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 3: on Patreon, so make sure you visit patreon dot com 1370 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: Backslash Horrible Decisions to not only support us, but to 1371 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 3: get another episode plus BTS content and other shows that 1372 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 3: we're creating over there, all just for you. That's again 1373 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 3: Patreon dot com Backslash Horrible Decisions. 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V and dv Aka Bett is standing. 1392 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, I'm weazy, and we've got a special og 1393 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: guest in the building. 1394 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 3: By the way she calls it, at this point, every 1395 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 3: guest special, So don't feel too special. 1396 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: I realize, I realize. 1397 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 2: You know, you said what I don't say o G. 1398 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 2: You don't say o G so og that's another word 1399 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 2: for old. 1400 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: They just say. We'd like it's so weird. 1401 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 4: It happens out of nowhere. I felt like it went 1402 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 4: from like like you you you know, you start to 1403 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 4: get older and then you have two directions. You could go. 1404 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 4: You could be washed up or you can be an 1405 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 4: o G. 1406 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 5: It's nice and it's you know, there's a point where 1407 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 5: it's like, are you gonna be old and washed up 1408 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 5: or are you gonna be an o G or a legend? 1409 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Joanna said, let me let me clean this for you 1410 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: the night you think I was really heading to the 1411 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,440 Speaker 1: washed up lane, and then everybody start calling me a legend. 1412 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 2: And I was like, I got to say legend. 1413 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: There we got. 1414 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 2: Legend is better. I didn't call up you are. 1415 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: The reason I wanted to tell you about the day 1416 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: that I saw you is because. 1417 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 3: Wait, one moment, Joanna angels by camera should girl all 1418 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 3: out hello, and it's bad. 1419 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 5: I always wind up looking at himself like an assholet up. 1420 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 1: So speaking of legends, I'm at a food convention. Yeah. 1421 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, last year weren't eating call this year I did. 1422 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. We saw each other, right, yes, And I was 1423 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: trying to remind you and You're like girl, and I 1424 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 1: was like, that's a podcast girl. So the first year 1425 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: that I saw her, I'm high shitting, I'm with questlove 1426 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not no lie kind of bored. After you eat, 1427 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: you getting tired, So We're sitting at some panel and 1428 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, am I fucked up in the head? Like 1429 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: am my eyes deceiving me? Or is that Joanna Angel? 1430 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 4: So she's so funny because you're sitting next to Questlov 1431 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 4: and you're excited about me. 1432 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Well, look what I do for a living, like a 1433 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 1: pretty important guy. That's funny. So I said, it's like, 1434 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: and I'm expecting that he doesn't know her name. I'm like, 1435 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, I know you don't know who this is. 1436 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: But then he's like, that's my girl, up starts talking 1437 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: to this BI. I'm like looking at him while he's 1438 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 1: facing me, I'm like cry. And then I come up 1439 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like and she's so sweet. I say podcasts 1440 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: and she's like, God, give me a number. So how 1441 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I Know you is mainly when I was growing up, 1442 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I only watched Blackborn, But how I Know You is 1443 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: from HBO, the show Times the Stars. You were really 1444 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: big in that kind of TV when watching the Age 1445 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: a Van Awards, when we would see documentaries and I 1446 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: would always hear your name, and there's not many porn 1447 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: stars I remember from back then. So seeing you now 1448 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: when I type in your name and it literally comes 1449 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: up with videos you made. I was so excited to 1450 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 1: talk to you because we got to talk with Havana Ginger, 1451 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: who's one of my favorites. And I'm like, damn, when 1452 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 1: you see someone that like kind of goes up the 1453 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: ladder and they've evolved their career, like, to me, that's 1454 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 1: the most interesting. Oh yeah, and too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1455 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Havana was just more recent in my brain. But yeah, 1456 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: tell us what you're famous for. 1457 01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm just like, well, you know, depends on who you ask, 1458 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 4: but I guess my my legacy. 1459 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: Was known for. 1460 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 5: In two thousand and two, I sort of, I guess, 1461 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 5: came into this scene. I started the company h Burning Angel, 1462 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 5: which was not a company when it started. It was 1463 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 5: just a website and then it kind of spawned into 1464 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 5: a company, So I. 1465 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 4: Guess, uh, And there weren't there were very few, if 1466 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 4: not any. 1467 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 5: I never want to say the only because I don't 1468 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 5: know everything that was going on, but there were very 1469 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 5: few performer owned studios, you know, there were very few 1470 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 5: you know, performers behind the camera. And there were also 1471 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 5: I guess it was like unheard of to put tattooed 1472 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 5: people and yeah, really, yeah, isn't that weird. It's like, 1473 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 5: I don't even like saying that now, that that's what 1474 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 5: I'm known for, because it seems like such an obvious no. 1475 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,720 Speaker 2: It's crazy that you actually say that. 1476 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 3: I was just talking to my homeboy and when I'm 1477 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 3: at whole parties and things like that, when men, when 1478 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,600 Speaker 3: men like approached me and asked me, they immediately go 1479 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 3: to are you a dancer? And I was like, so 1480 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm telling him this story about how they think I'm 1481 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 3: a stripper every time I go to pool parties and 1482 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, I guess my body, and he was like, no, 1483 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 3: it's your tattoos. He's like, a lot of dancers now 1484 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 3: are tatted. 1485 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 2: The fuck that the hat