WEBVTT - From the Vault: The Skybridge, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you welcome to stuff to blow your mind. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Robert Lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Joe McCormick, and it is Saturday. Time to

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<v Speaker 2>go into the vault for an episode of Days Past.

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<v Speaker 2>This one originally aired on July twelfth, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was part one of our series on the Skybridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember. We did this series after my family

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<v Speaker 1>went up to visit Chicago for a week and I

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<v Speaker 1>got inspired by all the wonderful skybridges up there. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's timely that we're recording this vault intro now because

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<v Speaker 1>my family just got back from a trip to Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>where we went on another architectural boat tour and got

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<v Speaker 1>to see a whole bunch more skybridges along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, it's pretty magic. I'm still a huge sucker

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<v Speaker 1>for any skybridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Which city has better skybridges?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you can't go. You can't compare, You can't compare.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to get into a battle between

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and New York City over skybridges. Have some real beauties.

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<v Speaker 1>But if anyone out there has an opinion, feel free

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. Will we can discuss this on listener Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>Episodes Tired, the Pizza Fight, Wired, the Skybridge Fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Robert Lamb and I am Joe McCormick. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>been kicking around the idea of doing a skybridge episode

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. These have always captivated me whenever I've

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<v Speaker 1>looked at city scapes, both real city scapes and cities

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<v Speaker 1>that I've visited or lived in, but also just imagine cities,

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<v Speaker 1>fictional cities, futuristic cities that one encounters in various films.

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<v Speaker 1>These are, of course, we're talking about skybridges or sky

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<v Speaker 1>walks or you know, there are various terms one might

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<v Speaker 1>use for these. We're talking generally about enclosed bridges of

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<v Speaker 1>metal and glass or stone or other materials that connect

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<v Speaker 1>artificial heights to artificial heights. And I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>it about you, Joe, if I don't think we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this. See if you share my interest in skybridges,

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever gaze up at a skybridge in a

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<v Speaker 1>city and just try and imagine what it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like to be up there in it looking out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, I mean there are a number of these

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<v Speaker 2>around the world, but they're rare enough that they still

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<v Speaker 2>they stick out when you see them, I guess, unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a city that has a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 2>like Calgary or something. But yeah, they look like something

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<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of obvious solution that you would expect

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<v Speaker 2>to see more of in the city that's full of

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<v Speaker 2>tall buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that we can. We'll certainly get into the

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<v Speaker 1>practical sides of the skybridge, but there's also something there's

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<v Speaker 1>something attractive about it that I find almost hard to

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<v Speaker 1>to put into words because on one level, yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a view that is available to one in a skybridge,

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<v Speaker 1>and generally speaking, you can often look in two directions

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<v Speaker 1>at once, and that's that's pretty neat. But by and large,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a tremendous amount of difference between being on

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<v Speaker 1>the tenth floor of a building and looking out at

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<v Speaker 1>the city as opposed to being on a tenth floor

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<v Speaker 1>skybridge and looking out of the city. But for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>if you gave me the choice between the two, the skybridge,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is tremendously more attractive as an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and in a lot of recent sky bridges they've

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<v Speaker 2>started doing the thing where they make the bottom out

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<v Speaker 2>of transparent materials, you know, sometime tough glass, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course you know, the kids like to jump up and

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<v Speaker 2>down on it. That's always fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think maybe with skybridge is too a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of what makes the skybridge attractive

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<v Speaker 1>and interesting, it's also it's actually wrapped up in a

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<v Speaker 1>deeper understanding of bridges, Like we're essentially taking our already

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<v Speaker 1>existing excitement for bridges, even though we see bridges all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and maybe that gets kind of like pushed

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<v Speaker 1>down in our consciousness, but then it becomes new again

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at something like a skybridge, and also

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<v Speaker 1>skybridges kind of I think serve to exaggerate the feats

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<v Speaker 1>of skyscraper building. Like, for instance, if I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>just a normal skyscraper, it may be really impressive, but

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<v Speaker 1>if I see a little i don't know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>gargoyle up there or some sort of like little space

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<v Speaker 1>where a human being could potentially stand for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it draws me in more. Maybe look, there's an artificial

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<v Speaker 1>mountain aspect to it, and then seeing the bridge up

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<v Speaker 1>there kind of does much the same thing. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>in this look at skybridges, we're gonna draw several different sources.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the main sources that are going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to, though, is a wonderful history overview of

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<v Speaker 1>skybridges titled Skybridge is a History in a View to

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<v Speaker 1>the Near Future by Anthony Wood and Daniel Sapharik the

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<v Speaker 1>Council of Tall Buildings in Urban Habitat, published in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen in the International Journal of High Rise Buildings. The

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<v Speaker 1>authors here define a skybridge as quote a primarily enclosed

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<v Speaker 1>space linking two or more buildings at height, and they

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<v Speaker 1>make a point of looking at structures that are at

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<v Speaker 1>least six stories in high to set them apart from

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<v Speaker 1>other mere pedestrian bridges and overpasses, because I guess truly

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<v Speaker 1>the skybridge, or at least modern skybridges, have a different

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<v Speaker 1>feel altogether. Though some of the especially older examples we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to look at are not necessarily going to be

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<v Speaker 1>that high in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially a lot of the publicly accessible skybridges or

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<v Speaker 2>lower whatever you'd call the lower versions of them that

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<v Speaker 2>aren't like connecting two towers of essentially the same building

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<v Speaker 2>or buildings that have the same owner. Instead, they're forming

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<v Speaker 2>a walkway for people or pedestrians along a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like second story level in the city. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>the example of Calgary earlier. Calgary and can It has

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<v Speaker 2>an extensive network of what have sometimes been called skybridges

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<v Speaker 2>or skyways, but I think they're mostly on more like

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<v Speaker 2>the second story level, and and they're open to the public.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people can walk all around in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. When you look at the overall history of skybridges,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mix of of passageways for the elite, passageways

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone and uh and and sometimes you have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like double deckers where well one floor is for

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<v Speaker 1>the residents, but the other floor is for tourists, so

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. Also you have a mix of

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<v Speaker 1>some of some of these are still very much in operation,

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<v Speaker 1>some are not accessible currently. Now I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>recently in Chicago, and while I was there, this was

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the reasons that I decided, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think now it's the time to go ahead into the

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<v Speaker 1>skybridge episode. Because I took one of these architectural tours

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<v Speaker 1>by boat in the city, which which I highly recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a city that's it's uh, it's steeped

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<v Speaker 1>in in architecture, and therefore, or if you understand the

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<v Speaker 1>architectural history of the city at least just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you have I think, a much better understanding of what

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago is when you walk around it, drive around it,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And one building in particular that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but notice is, of course, the Wriggly Building. And

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<v Speaker 1>indeed you have this beautiful fourteenth story skybridge connecting the

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<v Speaker 1>two sections, and at first glance you might think it's

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<v Speaker 1>made out of aluminum, but it's actually made out of

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<v Speaker 1>Allegheny nickel. So that's pretty interesting. But yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look up pictures of the Wrigley Building, yeah you'll definitely

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<v Speaker 1>see this impressive skybridge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's trying to remember if this shows up in The Fugitive,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a movie that I deeply associate with Chicago architecture,

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<v Speaker 2>though I'm not quite sure why. I mean, obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, I don't know what the architecture connection is.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember as a kid, I would look at pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of skybridges and think also, watching a lot of action

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<v Speaker 1>films back in the day, I kept thinking that there

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<v Speaker 1>had to be like a great action sequence where the

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<v Speaker 1>hero has to run through a skybridge, and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter is firing at him in the skybridge, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fight on top of the skybridge, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>my memories faint on this. Maybe these things actually happened

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<v Speaker 1>in some movie or TV show. But if they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised it never happened. It seems like the most

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<v Speaker 1>logical place, like a weird place, for some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a fight to take place. Like why didn't we see

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<v Speaker 1>this in Highlander?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is insurance problems. That was a scene they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to shoot but they couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, now, if anyone, if you're a New Yorker, or

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<v Speaker 1>certainly if you've even visited New York, you've seen multiple

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<v Speaker 1>examples of this. There are some great examples of both

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<v Speaker 1>old school and modern skybridges. You can look up lists

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<v Speaker 1>of these. I think there's at least one really picturesque

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<v Speaker 1>one that's the viewable from the high Line there. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we don't have to go to New York

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<v Speaker 1>in order to experience a sky bridge, because Joe, we

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<v Speaker 1>live in Atlanta and we have a pretty noteworthy example

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<v Speaker 1>of skybridges or skyways as well, and that's Peachtree Center,

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<v Speaker 1>designed by Atlanta architect John C. Portman Junior. Portman lived

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty four through twenty seventeen, and he's famed for

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<v Speaker 1>popularizing the atrium as well as just leaving a profound

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<v Speaker 1>mark on downtown Atlanta. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>he also did is, especially again with Peachtree Center here

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<v Speaker 1>is we see this almost excessive use of skybridges and

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<v Speaker 1>skyways connecting these buildings to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you drive around the city center streets, you

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<v Speaker 2>will see a number of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have a very seventies modern look to them,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not the classical skybridges. They're not these super

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<v Speaker 1>modern looking ones you'll see in many of the examples today.

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<v Speaker 1>But this, this is an example we're going to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to later because it's actually with Portman's work that

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<v Speaker 1>we see some of the more pronounced social criticisms of

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<v Speaker 1>the basic concept of the skybridge, which are interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>get into. Now, another local example here in Atlanta, the

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<v Speaker 1>High Museum of Art has some great skybridges part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rinzo Piano designed addition to the Core Museum in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five. Joe, I know you've walked.

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<v Speaker 2>Through these oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you always get some some brilliant sunlight. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all that beautiful white architecture going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I associate them with the sudden feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>being irradiated.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you've been in the climate because the climate control galleries,

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<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly, yeah, here's the sun now. Would in

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<v Speaker 1>Sopharik point out that the most common function of the

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<v Speaker 1>skybridge is of course, to convey traffic from one building

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<v Speaker 1>to another without forcing individuals to descend down to the

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<v Speaker 1>ground level or even below ground level, potentially exiting and

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<v Speaker 1>re entering the building, which, of course, if you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with special with a building that has some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a security system in place and security check ins and checkpoints,

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<v Speaker 1>we can see where that would that could become problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>Easier to have people enjoy access to both buildings via

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge, and you also have situations where okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want people having to cross the street, deal

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<v Speaker 1>with traffic or adverse environmental conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was trying to think what would be the

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<v Speaker 2>main factors motivating somebody to connect buildings via skybridge versus

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<v Speaker 2>just having people you enter an exit at the surface

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<v Speaker 2>level like they normally would. And yeah, those are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the main things that came to mind for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad weather and climate, that's got to be a motivator,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also true of places that have more underground

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<v Speaker 2>tunnels connecting buildings together. But then yeah, also bad traffic

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<v Speaker 2>and like thoroughfares that are hard to cross. So for example,

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<v Speaker 2>this would also include places where the where the streets

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<v Speaker 2>are not always streets, where there's not ground on the streets,

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<v Speaker 2>such as cities with canals sometimes skybridges to cross those.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course security concerns like if you have

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<v Speaker 2>i don't know, high security government buildings or something imagined,

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<v Speaker 2>they try to limit the necessity to go outside and

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<v Speaker 2>enter a different door and do that whole thing all

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<v Speaker 2>over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so obviously there are some basic reasons why you

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<v Speaker 1>might have a skybridge connecting to buildings. However, the authors

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<v Speaker 1>here also classify some skybridges as quote enclosed programmatic skybridges,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that there's something about them, something inside them to

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<v Speaker 1>draw people to them beyond just mere conveyance. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the one example they give is the American Copper Buildings

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City, built in twenty sixteen, which feature

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<v Speaker 1>a robust, two story skybridge full of common rooms and

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<v Speaker 1>swimming pools for residents.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great place to go swimming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an interesting choice. I mean, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it has a tremendous view.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, I would imagine, yeah, view and just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>novelty has got to be one of the main points

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<v Speaker 2>for these enclosed programmatic skybridges, because again, they're not so

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<v Speaker 2>common connecting American buildings in American cities that you're just

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<v Speaker 2>numb to them. Now, like going into skybridge is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of interesting and unique, unless you know, you just happen

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of the few people who lives or

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<v Speaker 2>works in buildings where you cross one every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, they also bring up a few additional expansions

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<v Speaker 1>on the form. One is something they called the sky plane,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is essentially a shared horizontal roof structure for

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<v Speaker 1>two or more buildings. And the example they bring up

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<v Speaker 1>is Marina Bay Sands in Singapore. Joe, you should probably

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<v Speaker 1>just look up a picture of Marina Bay Sands and

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<v Speaker 1>just take this in because I would have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm no judge of architecture here, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks almost a little bit ridiculous. It looks like there

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<v Speaker 1>is a ship perched atop three identical skyscrapers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a cruise ship. There is a cruise ship

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<v Speaker 2>on the buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I mean. I guess it looks really cool

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<v Speaker 1>up there. It makes me a little bit queasy to

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<v Speaker 1>look at some of these aerial shots of it for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. But yeah, it looks it looks very nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess, and certainly we can imagine so that

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<v Speaker 1>we may come back to this one as we think

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<v Speaker 1>about some arguments to be made for similar structures. They

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<v Speaker 1>also bring up the idea of building as skybridge. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is when the horizontal bar of the skybridge is

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<v Speaker 1>so massive in comparison to the rest that it is

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<v Speaker 1>more of a defining part of the building itself rather

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<v Speaker 1>than something that bridges it. And this also is a

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<v Speaker 1>statement one could make about like the nature of the skybridge.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the examples will come to in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Either the skybridge is not really firmly set in place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of setting in there, kind of slotted into place,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas building a skybridge, it's like it's all one structure. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The example they bring up is the CCTV headquarters in Beijing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a building I believe it was built in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven, and it looks basically like a really boxy

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<v Speaker 1>upside down you very cool design.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i'd characterize it as it looks like it was

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<v Speaker 2>built out of the out of giant versions of the

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<v Speaker 2>L shaped Tetris blocks and they're connecting above the ground way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, many many stories up. But yeah, it's clear

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<v Speaker 2>that this is not just a little hallway connecting the

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<v Speaker 2>upper levels of a skyscraper. A substantial portion of the

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<v Speaker 2>occupied part of the building is hanging over air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And it also looks like it could walk

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<v Speaker 1>like two legs and a pelvis, but like they walked

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Tron universe or something.

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<v Speaker 2>If you offend the master control program, this building comes

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<v Speaker 2>walking at you.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might be wondering, well, what's the highest skybridge

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Well, I believe if the Guinness Book

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<v Speaker 1>of World Records is correct on this, it is the

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<v Speaker 1>Patronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>quote a double deck bridge at the forty first and

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<v Speaker 1>forty second floors. It's one hundred and seventy meters or

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and fifty eight feet above the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>measures fifty eight meters or one hundred and ninety feet

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<v Speaker 1>in length, weighs seven hundred and fifty metric tons, and

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<v Speaker 1>this building opened in nineteen ninety four. This one is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool looking.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the ones I was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>earlier where it's essentially it's a connector between two towers

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<v Speaker 2>that are the same building. Like it's all one complex,

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<v Speaker 2>but the complex consists of like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>lower level thing, and then two towers going straight up

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<v Speaker 2>and they're connected in the at the middle of their

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<v Speaker 2>height by this skybridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one's an interesting one to look at too,

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<v Speaker 1>because first of all, it's so high up and at

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<v Speaker 1>the fortieth floor, you can imagine a good case being made,

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<v Speaker 1>like what if you need to get to the next tower,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go down forty floors and then

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<v Speaker 1>up another forty floors, what if you could just walk

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<v Speaker 1>over And of course you can adjust the math based

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<v Speaker 1>on what floor you're trying to get to in each tower.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's an area of the complex that

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<v Speaker 2>has increased foot traffic because there's sort of a sky

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<v Speaker 2>lobby concept, like you go halfway up the towers and

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<v Speaker 2>there's it's not just more regular office occupancy. There are

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, lobbies and things for people to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out and walk around and do at that level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and apparently one whole floor of it is is

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<v Speaker 1>open to tourists and as you know, part of this

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<v Speaker 1>lobby concept. The other is apparently closed off and more

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<v Speaker 1>for residents or businesses, what have you. But it's neat

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<v Speaker 1>that on top of this, not only is it mirror conveyance,

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<v Speaker 1>but also it adds at least a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>structural support as well as a possible means of a

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<v Speaker 1>evacuating individuals from one tower into the other during an emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not a primary function, but one that they've apparently

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<v Speaker 1>looked into, Like what if there was an emergency in

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<v Speaker 1>one tower but the other tower was still viable, That's

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<v Speaker 1>one way you could help get people out. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that this bridge is not directly connected to the buildings.

0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>It's designed so that it can shift or slide in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of them to counterbalance building sway from the winds.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's I mean, this is something that I always

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<v Speaker 1>forget about skyscrapers and then I'm told about skyscrapers, and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of wigs me out a little bit, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that, yes, they're not just purely stationary. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a little give to them. There's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>sway involved, and certainly if you have a bridge connecting

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<v Speaker 1>to skyscrapers, you have to take that into account, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point I thought we might get into

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<v Speaker 1>some of the history of the skybridge. I mean, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things about our look at skybridges here is

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be able to look at every

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<v Speaker 1>step in the We're not going to take you skybridge

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<v Speaker 1>by skybridge through human history. But we thought it might

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<v Speaker 1>be a good idea to hit on some key examples,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which are more historical in nature, and before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into some of the psychological aspects, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into some of the futurist ideas that are tied

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<v Speaker 1>up with skybridges. And so a great place to start

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<v Speaker 1>is to travel to Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely, I think maybe we should start by taking a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the Bridge of Size, or the Ponte de

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<v Speaker 2>Sospiri in Italian. You know, Suspiri, like Suspiria, like the

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<v Speaker 2>movie Size, the Size, This is.

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<v Speaker 1>A beautiful one. And this is one where if if

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<v Speaker 1>you look it up, you'll instantly recognize that you'll instantly

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself longing to be in a gondola with with

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<v Speaker 1>your beloved or some imagine beloved, perhaps with the glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Very ironically romantic. I'll get to that. So the bridge

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<v Speaker 2>of size is a really interesting landmark in Venice, a

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<v Speaker 2>city that already is already unusual in many of its

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<v Speaker 2>thoroughfares because many of them are not streets but canals

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<v Speaker 2>navigated by boat. And one of these canals, known as

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<v Speaker 2>the Rio di Palazzo, is crossed over by a totally

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<v Speaker 2>enclosed limestone bridge connecting two buildings on either side. At

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<v Speaker 2>the level of what looks like about the second story.

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<v Speaker 2>It is covered with elaborate Baroque decorations, having been commissioned

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<v Speaker 2>by the Doge Marino Grimani. And no doge is a

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<v Speaker 2>word that had a meaning before before internet memes. It

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with dogs. It was an office

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<v Speaker 2>in medieval and Renaissance Italy. It was like it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like being like a lord or some other

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<v Speaker 2>kind of executive. So it was this doge, Marino Grimani,

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<v Speaker 2>who commissioned it. I think it came up in the

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<v Speaker 2>early seventeenth century. Apparently it is tradition for couples to

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<v Speaker 2>kiss as they pass underneath the bridge in a boat

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<v Speaker 2>or I don't know if it's tradition, it's at least

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<v Speaker 2>something a lot of people do, I think, especially tourists,

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<v Speaker 2>and tourists are often taking pictures of themselves kissing with

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<v Speaker 2>this bridge in the background. You can probably find plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of those on the internet if you want. So, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the purpose of this hallway in the sky over

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<v Speaker 2>the canal that's causing people to spontaneously break out in kissing?

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<v Speaker 2>You might wonder wha you know, was it connecting two

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<v Speaker 2>wings of a library or an art museum, maybe so

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<v Speaker 2>people could move priceless antiques and books and artworks back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth in the rain without getting wet or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. No, not at all. It was a bridge

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<v Speaker 2>connecting the Doge's palace and the inquisitors facilities within to

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<v Speaker 2>the prison on the other side of the canal. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's called the bridge of size because of the

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<v Speaker 2>size of the doomed prisoners who walked within. Apparently conditions

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<v Speaker 2>in the prison were pretty nasty, so I've at least

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<v Speaker 2>read the allegation that being confined there frequently resulted in death.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Would sigh knowing your fate was sealed as you were

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<v Speaker 2>taken across the bridge of size into the jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's not romantic at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's horrible, and it makes me wonder. Okay, then why

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<v Speaker 2>in particular was this enclosed and not just an open

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<v Speaker 2>bridget I don't know this, but I wonder if the

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<v Speaker 2>reasoning had something to do with like preventing prisoners from

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<v Speaker 2>trying to escape by jumping over the edge into the

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<v Speaker 2>canal and getting way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean also, I guess, given the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of the work going on them, maybe you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>them seen by anybody going by in a boat, that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. I also have to say, now that

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<v Speaker 1>you reveal it's true nature, I kind of see a

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<v Speaker 1>skull in this design. I don't know if that's I mean, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>we tend to lean into anthropomorphic details of things anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that I know it's secrets, yeah, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see these teeth and two eye sockets and a

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<v Speaker 1>nose socket there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't find a close up shot to look

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<v Speaker 2>at right now though I do think the bridge bears

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<v Speaker 2>a certain family's coat of arms, it might have been

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<v Speaker 2>the family of the Doge or someone else. Possibly that

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<v Speaker 2>coat of arms looks like a skull.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, all right. Now, another interesting example from

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<v Speaker 1>Italy takes this to Florence, and this is a sixteenth

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>century example. This is Vasari Corridor. This was built in

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen sixty five to allow members of the powerful Medici

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<v Speaker 1>family to move freely between their residence and the governmental

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<v Speaker 1>center there in Florence. So it's certainly an elevated, enclosed

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<v Speaker 1>passageway reaching the full length I believe it's an entire

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<v Speaker 1>kilometer in length. There's at least one section of it

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<v Speaker 1>that is instantly identifiable as a skybridge, like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>street below it, that sort of thing. But in other

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<v Speaker 1>cases there are buildings or businesses beneath Vasari Corridor. It

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<v Speaker 1>literally just cuts through the city, built over like in

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<v Speaker 1>one case, it's apparently built over what was some riverside

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>butcher shops, because you know, you want to dump all

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of that the leftovers, directly into the river. But that

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<v Speaker 1>smelled too bad, and so with a little Medici finagling,

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<v Speaker 1>they got some jewelers in there as well. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>a tower that it goes around because there was one

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<v Speaker 1>stubborn Florentine who would not sell and so they had

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<v Speaker 1>to to make the their corridor go around this particular tower.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's even a place where it basically it basically

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<v Speaker 1>cuts through the Church of Santa Felicita, opening up onto

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<v Speaker 1>the balcony into a balcony there so that the Medici

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<v Speaker 1>could take their corridor attend Mass, and I guess keep

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<v Speaker 1>on going all the way, enjoying a kind of privileged

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<v Speaker 1>view of the city in places. You know, they get

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<v Speaker 1>to walk from point A to point B in Florence

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<v Speaker 1>without having to worry about their enemies trying to murder them.

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<v Speaker 1>And over time, portions of the Quarriter have been been altered, destroyed, rebuilt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe it was closed for a while and

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is once more open to tourists visiting the city.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what I've always wanted is the ability to

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 2>wake up, go to Mass without ever stepping foot outside.

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's such a power flex right, Yeah,

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 1>And it's definitely one to keep in mind when we

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>talk about other examples and modern examples of skybridges and

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>similar structures. It would be kind of like if you

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to leave your bedroom to go to work,

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't have tell a working technology, you could say,

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>what if I were just to physically extend my bedroom

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>across town to the office. How about that? And I

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>mean that's essentially what the Medici did here.

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Though to some degree, I think what we're thinking of

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 2>as a skybridge really has more to do with just

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>external appearance and like what is the stuff underneath it

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and how high is it and things like that, more

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 2>so than function, because there are other things that don't

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>quite look exactly like a skybridge, but they clearly serve

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the same function. I know, there's like a long elevated

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 2>passageway in Rome connecting Vatican City to some chapel or

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>palace or something there, and you can see it in

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>pictures of the city, though I think a lot of

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 2>it is uncovered, so it doesn't read exactly like like

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>a tunnel in the sky that's fully enclosed all around.

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It's more like there's just sort of this elevated bridge

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>going over the rooftops or over parts of the city.

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, to what extent do these examples feel like

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>a bridge. Do they have this feeling of being above

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>things or having some sort of privileged passage through things.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>For instance, we mentioned cold cities or cities that have

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>cold winters. The Chicago Pedway is a strong example of

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 1>a system like this. Parts of it are elevated, but

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>then also parts of it are completely underground, so that

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't have to go out into the

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>elements during the winter to move from one place to

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>another Downtown necessarily, on my visit to Chicago, I wanted

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to go down and see it. Though it was it

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was very pleasant outside, so we didn't have to go

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>down there. But I was reading some accounts of people who,

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>of course really like it, some who think that parts

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of it need some work. I think some people think

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it is a bit dank and perhaps needs a facelift

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of some sort.

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, that opens up a theme that I'm definitely going

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 2>to get to it at some point, maybe later in

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>this episode or maybe in the next one, but that

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to designing urban spaces, in many ways,

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 2>I think form can be about as important as function,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't just matter. Are these spaces traversible and

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>do they get you where you're going? But like, there

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>are pretty profound effects on our psychological well being depending

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>on the various esthetic qualities of these thoroughfares and tunnels

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 2>and traversal spaces, and it makes a difference in our

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 2>lives what these spaces are like. Absolutely, if you're spending

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>your life walking around and like just dank concrete with

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>no you know, no plants and no natural light and stuff,

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 2>that does affect people.

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Or it's also like having super reinforced transparent flooring in

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.919
<v Speaker 1>your skybridge. I mean, that's fine for tourist scenarios, but

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're using this skybridge just as a daily way

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of connecting, say from from your office to the coffee

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>machine in the other building, you don't necessarily want it

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a harrowing journey through the sky or at

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>least not to get the coffee maybe on the way back.

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>That would be impowerful. Now, if you look around at

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>various articles about skybridges, particularly like even if you go

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to the wiki page for skybridges, you'll see some images

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of some examples, and there's a picture that is circulated

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot. This is a model that was found in

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>an Eastern Hong tomb in a non province in China,

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and this is quite It's quite interesting to look at

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>It is clearly a multi story building connected by an

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>enclosed skybridge to another shorter tower or multi story building,

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty cool to look at it. Again, this

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>is quite old. I wasn't able to find anything to

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>indicate that this is a model of something that was

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>ever built in reality. Perhaps it was, or perhaps this

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>was just a model that again went into a tomb.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>But I was able to look around, and I found

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>some interesting things about skybridges and things like skybridges that

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>were that were actually constructed in various Chinese palace complexes

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and gardens. So I was looking at the philosophical encounter

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>embodied by Du Wangming by Wan hoy Zo published in

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Environmental Phlosophy, Volume seven, number one. This came out in

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>spring of twenty ten. So the One Being Gone or

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the Summer Old Summer Palace in Beijing was a complex

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of elaborate gardens and palaces of the Qing dynasty built

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. In eighteen sixty,

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>during the Opium War, it was looted and destroyed by

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>British and French forces. But according to Zoe here. The

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>original gardens consisted of three Chinese gardens and a Western

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>style garden that had been designed by Jesuits. The Chinese

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>gardens were laid out with Daoist cosmology and fin Shue

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in mind, so that one stroll through these gardens was

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>said to be one of contemplated depths. You know, it

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just you were just putting everything out of your

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>mind as you strolled here. You got to contemplate the Tao.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh do images of these gardens remain, I would be

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>really interested to see the difference between that and the

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Jesuit garden.

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>You can there are schematics of what it looked like,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and the ruins still exist. I believe. I was looking

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>at some photographs of this, and it's still a site

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that I believe can be visited.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>But probably not with all the vegetation in the original place.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. So I didn't find and there may

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>be some really robust recreations of what these would have

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>looked like, but I was I didn't. They didn't come

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>up in my research. But if anyone out there has

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>seen such an image, I would love to look at it. So,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>in talking about this particular park, Zoe turns to some

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>other examples. Zoe shares that the sheng Lin Park of

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the emperor Chinshi Wong of the third century BC Chin

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>dynasty featured was said to feature covered double floor passageways

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that allowed the emperor to move from one grand palace

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to another quote through the wilderness, and in doing so,

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>quote act mysteriously to avoid devils and meanwhile embrace virtuous individuals.

0:31:54.880 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>WHOA. Wait, so the skyways here were alleged to be

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 2>so this emperor could keep his movement secret sort of?

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that? Am I understanding that?

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? If? Well? So, first of all, these wouldn't have

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>been skyways per se. I think these were maybe situated

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, but yes, they would have been enclosed

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>so that nobody could necessarily see him moving around. He

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>is an important guy after all. But also he could

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>avoid devils and embrace virtuous individuals, which, you know, we

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>can certainly lean into the supernatural interpretation of that. But

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>also it sounds like not run into people who I

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to greet, don't run into people who wish

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>me harm, and also you know, only encounter people who

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>are worthwhile for me. The emperor to run into But

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>then Zoe turns to an example that I think we

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>can properly think of as a skywalk. He says, quote

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Imperial while Lynn Garden in the capital of

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>lu Yang of Northern Way, this is the fifth century,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>there was an island name on which buildings were connected

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>by a rainbow skywalk, where walking was like flying to

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and fro. Visitors moved about in this garden like celestial

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>birds up and down in a divine residence.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So when they moved about and it was like

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>flying to and fro, does that just mean that they're

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>crossing about in the air, they're high up and they

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>can see all around, or is there more significance.

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I think it's just a poetic way of saying that. Yeah,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>moving from one building to another via a bridge, that

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>it creates this feeling of flying. Yeah.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were on zip lines or anything

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, nor were they dressed like birds. But

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>but there's there's something, you know, almost supernatural about the

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>experience of using these elevated walkways.

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>So, and it gets a little more interesting when you

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>look at some of the details here. So lil Yang

0:33:58.360 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>is certainly a real place and it's one of the

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>oldest cities in China, which is certainly saying something. But

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>ping Lay is also the name of a mythical island,

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and in fact Pingley is said to be where the

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>elixir of life and the eight immortals may be found.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And the connection here is of course that gardens of

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>this sort are meant to be quote unquote fairy lands,

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and in fact ping Lay can be translated as fairy land.

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So these are places of supernatural beauty that invoke different

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>models of reality or in the earlier example that you're

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>contemplating the Tao as you walk through it, and it's

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.959
<v Speaker 1>mentioned by Zoe, the tall buildings as well were thought

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 1>to invite the spirits to reside in them. So it's

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>it's neat to think of. Like I feel like these

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>descriptions that he's discussing here, like they really draw in

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>things that are certainly unique to like the poetic Chinese

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 1>interpretation it seems, of these structures, but I think also

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>they get at our universal attraction to these things. Like again,

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>there's something about the skyscraper. There is something about not

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>only the sky bridge, but bridge the bridges themselves that

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>invite us to them you know, if you're in a

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>little park and there are bridges, you got to walk

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>across that.

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Bridge, right, yeah, oh yeah, totally. I feel the same way.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm always attracted to bridges and spaces that are not

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 2>just normally readily accessible. Like you know, if I see

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>an island in the middle of the pond, I do

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>want to go to it. I want to stand there.

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>And of course the same applies to locations high up.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>And this is something that I think is a pervasive

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>strain of thought in the ancient world. I guess maybe

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>even not just the ancient world, but I would say

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the pre industrial world, the world before skyscrapers became common

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 2>in city centers everywhere, or you know, you just have

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 2>like secular urban density driving occupancy higher and higher. In

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the pre industrial period, I think there was a pervasive

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 2>association between physical altitude and like I don't know, the

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 2>spiritual elevation or holiness or the gods. I mean, I

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 2>think about how many different types of like tower type

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>structures are associated with either royalty or divinity, going all back,

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>all the way back to like you know, the ziggurats

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>of ancient Mesopotamia, where you know, it was literally believed

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that in some sense, the God resides on the top,

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 2>or the god at least will come down to the

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 2>top in some cases. And royal towers, royal palaces with

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, things reaching high up in the air. That

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 2>that that's I think we're still impressed by tall buildings now,

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's lost some of the magical oomph

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that it once had in human minds.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Still there would be demigods of today like where do

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>they want their offices? Where do they want their their apartments?

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>They want they want to be at the top, right, Yeah,

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>we're still drawn to that. Speaking of really tall buildings.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>One more note about Liu Yang here is that between

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>five sixteen and five thirty four CE it contained the

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Young Ning Pagoda, which had an estimated nine stories in height.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's some back and forth about exactly

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>how tall it was, but read roughly nine stories in height.

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>This was one of, if not the tallest buildings in

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>the world at the time, according to the sources looking

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>at here. It was destroyed by a lightning strike which

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>then burned it to the ground. Now, I have not

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>had the benefit of visiting any of these sites that

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned, here. So certainly if anyone out there listening

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to the show has and certainly if you have photographs,

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you, so certainly right in,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and of course that goes that goes to We can

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>say the same regarding any of the sky bridges where

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>we're discussing in this episode, or any that we don't mention. Yes,

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>send in your skybridge experiences and photographs so that we

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>may enjoy them as well. So that's it for this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will be back with a part two on this.

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<v Speaker 1>We have much more to discuss regarding skybridges, but certainly

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