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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julian Edelman, and we

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Speaker 1: got a brand new compilation highlight reels starting now now.

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Speaker 2: Ernie Adams on how to beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: The Ernie cards that we used to have to deal

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Speaker 1: with in practice every day, and that could.

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Speaker 3: Be Yeah, that could that could be part of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not. I mean there's a lot of uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, all the all those cards, there's you know,

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Speaker 3: that's a lot of a lot of reading, a lot

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Speaker 3: of film study. Uh, because I always try to try

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Speaker 3: to put myself inside, you know, the other team. What

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Speaker 3: are they going to do against us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's a play they ran three years ago

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Speaker 3: and I've been waiting for three years, you know, to

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Speaker 3: run this against us in practice. Sometimes it actually plays

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Speaker 3: out that way in the games. Most of the times

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Speaker 3: it doesn't. But but I always thought, you know, keep

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Speaker 3: everybody alert.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever remember a time where we had one

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Speaker 1: of those crazy Ernie cards where we were all bitching

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Speaker 1: and complaining like, oh, we'll never fucking see this. You

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Speaker 1: know you've seen it. When the offense is over, What

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Speaker 1: the fuck is this? What are we doing? Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: We're never do you remember specifically a time that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so, for instance, we're playing the Dolphins, it's probably

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Speaker 3: around twoy eleven. So because Brian Dayball, of course was

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Speaker 3: he was with us for a number years, was the

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, and I said, what's Brian going to do?

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Speaker 3: And they had the throwback to the quarterback off the shotgun.

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Speaker 3: So we ran that in practice and people are, well,

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Speaker 3: they ran exactly that play in the game. And the

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Speaker 3: fact that you know, we had seen it meant that

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Speaker 3: we could react to it just in time, you know,

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Speaker 3: to to make the play on defense, because the stuff

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Speaker 3: it's happening so fast. If you got to think, oh,

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Speaker 3: it just went buy me, you got to you know,

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Speaker 3: you got to be able to anticipate. In fact, one

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Speaker 3: of the great the great lines for coaching football was

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Speaker 3: somebody I have a tremendous respect for Tom Landry who

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Speaker 3: would say, anticipation beat reaction every time you think ahead

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Speaker 3: of that, Hey, we know this is the situation. This

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Speaker 3: is what we got to watch out for. And that

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Speaker 3: just makes a world of difference to just being out

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Speaker 3: there playing, oh my god, the play just went buy me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and how you've seen a lot of guys they're always

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Speaker 3: half a step light, and that that doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: That's what I try to explain to people, like when

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Speaker 1: they ask what was your guys day to day like,

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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, oh, well, we'd walk through plays.

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Speaker 1: We'd walk through the walkthroughs and we'd go to a

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Speaker 1: built in drill for that specific play, take it to

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Speaker 1: a seven on seven. Then do a team and we'd

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Speaker 1: have all these reps and you'd run thirty new plays,

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Speaker 1: but you'd rep them four or five times, and guys

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Speaker 1: would bitch and complain, bitch and complain. But then when

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Speaker 1: you came when it came to game day, like Ernie said,

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Speaker 1: it's in your subconscious. It's built in your subconscious. So

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Speaker 1: you react and you've seen the play, it becomes deja

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Speaker 1: vu on this technique. This happens, Oh I see this guy.

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Speaker 1: I saw it in practice, I saw it in the walkthrough,

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Speaker 1: and it allows you to play fast. And that's and

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Speaker 1: that's something that I always tell everyone. What made our

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Speaker 1: teams was our practice and our ability to really take

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Speaker 1: those meetings. I mean that's hard to get, you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty guys to really buy in and go over plays

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Speaker 1: and plays and plays. But that's what made us US

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Speaker 1: back to these earning cards. Okay, people don't realize, but

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Speaker 1: we'd have like three plays that are four point plays,

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Speaker 1: a field goal, you need a touchdown. And one time

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Speaker 1: Ernie brings out this like blit zero look where these

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Speaker 1: coordinator was a quality control guy at UOP in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one, and Ernie found this one play on a

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Speaker 1: against the look that we would give him. How many

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Speaker 1: games have you watched, Ernie.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot, and you know it goes not only

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Speaker 3: watch but take notes. So I have, like I can

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Speaker 3: go to my book looking for you know, those crazy situations,

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Speaker 3: you know, and when I write a play, I always

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Speaker 3: label it, Hey, this was again, this was whatever cal

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Speaker 3: against Stanford two thousand and three, you know, and it

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Speaker 3: I really need to go back and find a video,

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Speaker 3: I've got it right there. And I don't pretend that

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Speaker 3: me three weeks, which doesn't do any good when the

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Speaker 3: game is Sunday, you know. I mean, when I'm doing

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Speaker 3: those cards on Thursday night, I need the information.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like right now, Ernie, you could do

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Speaker 1: a guess. I mean, approximately how many games have you watched?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, forty years worth? Which is all you know?

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Speaker 3: Which is there's all you know? And of course this

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Speaker 3: from probably two thousand and seven to twenty nineteen, the

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Speaker 3: two best offensive teams in the National Football League over

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Speaker 3: that time, where the Patriots and the Saints. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: mean they were just you know, year in year out,

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Speaker 3: you know, both of us, you know, were some of

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Speaker 3: the best teams in the league. So I would you know,

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Speaker 3: and it's one place. It just grind it out, one

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Speaker 3: know that.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize when he's when he's logging these, he's

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Speaker 1: watching the play and after each played, he's putting down

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Speaker 1: the formation, the personnel group, the defensive line, look, the coverage,

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Speaker 1: the potential blitch, the situation, the score. Like he's putting

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Speaker 3: And you make it I'm not telling yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm writing, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: On my hundred thousand games.

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Speaker 3: That's probably a little much. And I would pick and choose,

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Speaker 3: you know which, I mean some games, like in all honesty,

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Speaker 3: getting myself excited about watching, you know, like right now

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Speaker 3: the you know, the Carolina Panthers playing the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: It's unless there was something I really wanted to see.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of hard for me, you know, to take

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Speaker 3: were a lot of plays I might see, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: here's a couple of plays that I've seen in the league.

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Speaker 3: We should think about putting that, putting this in for us,

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Speaker 3: and you know, John, we were all doing the same, uh,

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Speaker 3: the same thing. If you want to stay current state

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Speaker 3: of the art, you know, you know, you really have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you always were. I mean I remember a

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Speaker 1: lot of people talk about that whole what was it?

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Speaker 1: Uh when we had who man doing the formations against Baltimore?

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Speaker 1: I think Alabama? There was someone who was doing it

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before.

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Speaker 3: Right, and then you know and listen, and that was

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Speaker 3: probably a project that you well, you know, No, it

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Speaker 3: it's like Bill would Bill, Bill talk to Nick Saban

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Speaker 3: all the time. I mean, I mean there were I

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Speaker 3: mean this goes back because remember Bill and I METI

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Speaker 3: each other as high school teammates in nineteen seventy, nineteen seventy,

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Speaker 1: What's Bill like in nineteen seventy You have good feet.

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Speaker 1: You guys are both lineman.

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Speaker 3: No, we're both ball but we love football.

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Speaker 1: But there's so many times I've heard in the meeting

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Speaker 1: room me and fucking Ernie could do this.

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, it depends on what we could. You know,

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Speaker 3: ability forget next up.

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's on what it's like coaching under Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: and Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: You coached at Michigan State, you got just for one year?

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Speaker 1: For one year with Saban? Was that part of ready

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Speaker 1: right after I graduated? Yeah, from Carol And so did

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Speaker 1: you think Nick gave you a recommendation of Bill? Sure?

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Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, I can't. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Brian, So, Brian was a second year GA. I was

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Speaker 4: than me, Brian Dable Dable. So when I got there,

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Speaker 1: So that was a huge experience.

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Speaker 4: For me because coming to New England with Bill after

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Speaker 4: being with Nick, it didn't seem like such a like

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Speaker 4: is like, you know, after having been with Nick.

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Speaker 1: What are the similarities and differences Nick is?

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Speaker 4: Nick is not afraid to really detail it out, you

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Speaker 1: Like there would be like a cover one.

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Speaker 4: Tip sheet for the DB's that was like this thick

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Speaker 4: that's just cover us one defense, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: It's like, holy cow, you know, if we do this,

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Speaker 4: believed in preparation, preparation, preparation. It was relentless in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Bill was very much the same, but less like he

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Speaker 4: would try to simplify. I thought, you know, as much

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Speaker 4: but he's not going to overwhelm you with you know,

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Speaker 4: too much detail. But I mean, honestly, there's their personalities

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Speaker 4: are a little different. Everybody thinks Bill is what you

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Speaker 4: really it was great for me to have a chance

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Speaker 4: to be with Nick before going to Bill.

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Speaker 1: Baptize you into it, no doubt. You know, we all

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Speaker 1: forget Anakin was the Jedi first.

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Speaker 2: Next Matt Patricia on why winning makes you America's most

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Speaker 2: wanted in the.

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Speaker 5: NFL Again, you think about the incredible run that we had,

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Speaker 5: like every year, let alone, we were getting whatever team

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Speaker 5: we played, we were getting their best because that was

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Speaker 5: the benchmark. But you're also playing the best teams every

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Speaker 5: year all the time. Like the mental fortituo is that word,

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Speaker 5: the mental toughness a favorite Tommy like the the what

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Speaker 5: do you.

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Speaker 3: Say standing up?

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Speaker 5: Competitive setifs, it's my favorite favorite term that you would use.

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Speaker 5: Competitive stamina of you guys was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of people don't realize right

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Speaker 1: now with these Chiefs. Everyone says, oh, they only won

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Speaker 1: by two points. They don't realize that every team and

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Speaker 1: every coach that's coaching against them, they're sitting and they say,

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Speaker 1: that's America's most wanted. If we beat them, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: See I brought this, this is this is this is

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Speaker 1: Now, how come Travis Kelcey always seems wide open.

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, that's something that we always

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: You know. So that's some of the stuff what makes

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid such a good coach.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's got a he's got a great system,

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Speaker 3: he's had he's been doing now because remember for him,

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Speaker 3: before the Kansas City, there was Philadelphia and they went

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Speaker 3: to you know, they had the string there. They went to,

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Speaker 3: you know, several NFC championship games. And look when you're

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Speaker 3: in you know, when you're in the final four and

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Speaker 3: you lose, a couple of people say, I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's you forget it. To get just just to just

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Speaker 3: to get to the championship game, you got to be

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Speaker 3: really good. There may be somebody who's just a little

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Speaker 3: bit better and beats you that, but that really shouldn't

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Speaker 3: take away from what you do. Although in the end,

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Speaker 3: there's thirty two teams in the NFL, there's only one

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Speaker 3: that gets to stand out there, you know, with that

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Speaker 3: final trophy. So just because you know, maybe hey, you

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Speaker 3: didn't quite get there. You still could be really good,

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Speaker 3: you just you know, not quite good enough to win

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Speaker 1: How are Andy Reiding Bill different and how are they alike?

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Speaker 3: You know, because it's yeah, I've never worked with and

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Speaker 3: the you know, Bill I've known for fifty years, so

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Speaker 3: that's a little bit of a hard one for me too.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that he practices hard. I heard that they

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Speaker 1: practice really hard. You know.

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Speaker 3: That's that's my impression. This is a team when they

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Speaker 3: come out for pregame warm up and nobody's screwing around.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're getting after playing football. And you remember,

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Speaker 3: particularly your younger days, I think we practiced hard. We practiced,

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Speaker 3: I mean we were we were in pads and camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, run in the mornings.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's classic NFL. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's that's why guys would have your offensive lineman they'd

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Speaker 3: have on their uh you know, the seven studgrass cleats

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Speaker 3: for the morning, they'd have on their shoes for the

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Speaker 3: afternoon for past protection.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's you know, you know, the old thing

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Speaker 3: about the different games. You're familiar with this a little bit, okay.

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Speaker 3: Croque A is a gentleman's game played by gentlemen. Soccer

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Speaker 3: is a beastly game played by gentlemen. Rugby is a

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Speaker 3: gentleman's game. You all that football is a beastly game

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Speaker 3: played by beasts. I mean, it's you know, this is

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Speaker 3: it's a it's a you know, it's a nasty game.

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Speaker 3: If you want to learn how to play it, it's

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's hard, it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. You better be willing to bleed, eat some dirt,

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Speaker 1: take a tablespoon of some men, at least back in

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Speaker 1: the day. I don't know about that that.

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Speaker 3: I'm joking, but it's, you know, and that's what we say.

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Speaker 3: And I don't really know any good teams that were soft. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that's this. Some teams maybe have tried,

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Speaker 3: and there's some of the teams players come, well, we

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Speaker 3: wasn't like this the last team. I was, well, great,

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Speaker 3: how many championships did you win?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Now did you scout mahomes coming out of Texas Tech?

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Speaker 3: You know, we did not really be This was at

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Speaker 3: the stage we said there is zero possibility of us

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Speaker 3: taking a quarterback in the first round. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but he was he was. But but no, I wish,

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Speaker 3: uh you know, I I wish I could say I

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Speaker 3: studied than I did.

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Speaker 1: But have you seen his evolution from the early part

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Speaker 1: of his career? What have you noticed? How has he

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Speaker 1: evolved if you've watched it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he started off really good and he's

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Speaker 3: gotten better, you know, and you know, you know, being

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Speaker 3: a good quarterback in the NFL that's a high wire act.

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Speaker 3: There's known that. So uh, you know, you you you

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Speaker 3: got to be aggressive with the ball, but you just

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Speaker 3: got you know, you got to know at some point

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Speaker 3: this this is that there's that fine line between being reckless,

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Speaker 3: you know, being aggressive and being reckless. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new

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