WEBVTT - The Life Aquatic

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever raised sea monkeys? I have? Yeah, Well are

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<v Speaker 1>you disappointed? Um? Yeah, a little bit, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was more intrigued by the atmosphere that they were

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<v Speaker 1>living in, Like that seems really magical. Well on the package,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks magical because it shows these little creatures living

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<v Speaker 1>and they have like a little undersea kingdom, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you expect that to take place to up and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really happen. Now it doesn't, but I was taken

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I thought, oh yes, finally, Well, like like

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<v Speaker 1>growing sprouts is I find that to be far more satisfying.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end I have, like something delicious put

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<v Speaker 1>on a sandwich. Sea monkeys not that delicious, No, not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Yeah. There are a species of brine shrimp, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not to take away them as stake here,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah they're not. They're not actually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hominid's in any way, shape or form. Yeah, tiny seaman.

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<v Speaker 1>But according to their packaging, they are a true miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>Of nature. Yes, well, I mean everything is really but

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<v Speaker 1>but you know there's uh these undersea kingdoms that they had,

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<v Speaker 1>like it, like it really captured my imagination. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's imagination is because because there's something

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<v Speaker 1>like in the Psyche that just wants to see underwater cities. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just the like the just impossible nature

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<v Speaker 1>of it, the sort of topsy turvy world aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean if you think about it geographically,

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<v Speaker 1>it is like the Earth turned upside down or not

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth, but that what we see there as land lovers. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't you want to hang out in that

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<v Speaker 1>submerged mountain range? Yeah? And it's you know, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery of it too, like the what's underneath the water?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and see some fish something that looks kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a mermaid. Yeah, and then there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>tranquil thing. Yeah. Yeah, and you know it's like your

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<v Speaker 1>wait list and it's yeah, it's uh so it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's an idea that's been exploring in a number

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<v Speaker 1>of times, like just to run through like a few

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<v Speaker 1>of the famous ones, like in in myth you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Lost Cities of s and Atlantis. Yes, um, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes you do. Oh. I thought you're correcting because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't exactly sure how to pronounce because it looks kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like yees and it and it's I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was pronounced like S, but it could be yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Yes. Yes, no, I was just agreeing they

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<v Speaker 1>are mythic. You have the City of Rapture in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bioshot games. You have Lions in the War and War

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<v Speaker 1>Gods of the Deep. You have the Lost City of

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta and Futurama. Did you ever see that one? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the city of Atlanta, which where we're podcasting from,

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<v Speaker 1>is completely submerged and people live in it. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to seek that one out. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not I mean, it's it's like an outsider's critique. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, does it have Marta, Does it

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<v Speaker 1>have like like for underground Atlanta. Yeah, because an insider's

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<v Speaker 1>view of the Lost City of Atlantis, I think would

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<v Speaker 1>would be a lot more interesting, at least to Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>because what happens to Marto when it's when it's submerged,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still late. Yeah, you have of course, uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>sub Diego of Aquaman. You have the city of and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never sure pronounced this, even though I've read Lovecraft

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<v Speaker 1>numerous times. We have the city of really really a yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've always wondered yea, yeah. I always just

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<v Speaker 1>think of it as like Caulu town, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah? And then uh, and then you have you

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<v Speaker 1>have like various like mechanical underwater cities that have popped up,

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<v Speaker 1>like um, I like or not or not always cities,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes just habitats. I have anyone who's seen any

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Like the late nineties, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>was when we had just tons of underwater base underwater city,

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<v Speaker 1>uh situation showing up in the films you have like

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<v Speaker 1>the Abyss, you had Deep Star six, you had the

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<v Speaker 1>Leviath than the Lords of the deep Water World water World?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they ever go into what I've never seen water World?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't either actually think that they not having seen

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<v Speaker 1>it though, um, I think that they just created like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of floating areas, floating cities. So nonetheless they

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<v Speaker 1>were on the water. Well, they were on the water.

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<v Speaker 1>They might have had stuff, yeah, slightly. I bet they

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<v Speaker 1>took a swim every once in a while. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>the unfilmed sequel maybe, But but but anyway, outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the realm of myth and fantasy and science fiction, we

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<v Speaker 1>we've actually looked into this, uh through through a number

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<v Speaker 1>of experiments, and it's an idea that continues to capture

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination and it and often ends up spilling over

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<v Speaker 1>into a scientific inquiry. Yeah. And it seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>like like the nineteen fifties saw a really big fascination

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<v Speaker 1>with us and that this has some parallels with space colonization. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of idea where we could enter this

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious um quiescent space and live our lives in a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different way. Yeah, and he goes back like anytime

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<v Speaker 1>you look at like the like the Walt Disney you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got Center Visions of Tomorrow or you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>World of Tomorrow, and it was, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>always like we're totally we're gonna do it, guys. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have cities on the moon, We're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>live underwater and cities. I mean, it was just this

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<v Speaker 1>since that same sense of optimism that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that told us that with science at our side. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the stars are ours and it's you know, so of

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<v Speaker 1>course the ocean is also within our grass. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the funny thing now is it's driven by pessimism,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, because it's like, well, hm, we're really eating

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<v Speaker 1>up all the natural resources here and taking up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of land. Maybe we should explore the oceans a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more. Maybe that's possible to live underneath them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, oh, well, the the environment is not

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<v Speaker 1>going too hot. Everything's gonna be underwater anyway, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>can we make it everything float or make it just

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<v Speaker 1>all waterproof? So New York City. Maybe it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>chain of little lisle ins and underground pods. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the first that really comes to mind,

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<v Speaker 1>like like when when this is when people were actually like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's do it. Let's let's try it out. Because

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the surface, on the on the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of things, like the idea sounds pretty simple, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you're not familiar with any of the

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<v Speaker 1>the science involved, just like, well, let's just build something underwater.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you saw it's air tight, pump some air

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<v Speaker 1>down to it, and people will live in it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>will be like the chunnel. Yeah, but it's it gets

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more complicated than that. And when one of

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<v Speaker 1>the the main guys who is really looking into this

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<v Speaker 1>UM in the late fifties or like sixties was of

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<v Speaker 1>course Custo. So wait, oh, I thought you were okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna do more of a French tech

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<v Speaker 1>on Custo because I feel like I'm not getting the

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<v Speaker 1>proper Okay, it's just one syllable is that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anyway, not my forte jacqu Custos. Let's try your

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<v Speaker 1>more Italian see okay? Um. But Jacquesto had the con

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<v Speaker 1>Shelf project and this was a series of three underwater

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<v Speaker 1>habitats that they explored and and it it gets right

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<v Speaker 1>into the idea of the aquanot, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>astronaut except underwater. Basically it's just going down for an

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<v Speaker 1>extended period of time and adapting to the pressure. UH

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<v Speaker 1>scuba divers living and operating both inside and outsider and underwater. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and to be in a specific about and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about David Blaine like doing some sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen minutes done under the water. Um, but it's more

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<v Speaker 1>about someone living in an underwater habitat or using storm

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<v Speaker 1>sort of device for twenty four hours or more in

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<v Speaker 1>order to explore the area around him or herself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the first one of these that Jacques Cousteau and company

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<v Speaker 1>pulled off was con shelf one. And this is two.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just off the cop the coast of

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<v Speaker 1>France near Marcellus. And uh, they just went down about

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<v Speaker 1>they went down thirty three ft ten and this is

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<v Speaker 1>this thing just looks like a big steel, yellow barrel

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<v Speaker 1>about sixteen ft five meters long, you know, uh, eight

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<v Speaker 1>ft two point five meters in diameter. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, it's like a home laboratory. Two guys

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<v Speaker 1>in there one week, thirty people observing from the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring these guys health, um and uh. And they'd leave

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<v Speaker 1>the two for five hour shifts to study see life

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<v Speaker 1>work on an underwater farm, which sounds fabulous and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and and again they're just like they weren't actually like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you know, we got to you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>a crop going this week. It is you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more like, let's let's observe what would happen if we

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<v Speaker 1>actually did have people down on the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of of of the of the ocean working on something.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's look at their vitals. Let's see how they're doing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a really practical solution to right, because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to decompress, they don't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Um, so if they're able to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>there for a while, then they can you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>mass a lot of data, look at it, continue to

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<v Speaker 1>go out, so on and so forth. Yeah, because just

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<v Speaker 1>just without getting to a whole lot of depth about

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<v Speaker 1>the about the bins, but you go down to certain

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<v Speaker 1>you go down to certain depths, you have more pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and that causes the gas and the breathable air to

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<v Speaker 1>dissolve into your flesh, right, the nitrogen. Yeah, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you surface too fast, you get nitrogen bubbles, which can

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<v Speaker 1>be exceedingly painful or fatal. So which means, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the longer you stay down, the longer you need to

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<v Speaker 1>come back up. Yeah. Right, And it was originally called

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<v Speaker 1>the Grecian bend, by the way, the Grecian Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what maybe they attributed like bending to the Grecians.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, they observe people bending over. Oh, Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's actually like you would come up and just

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<v Speaker 1>be bent over, Yeah, doubled over. And I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Concheff one was a success there. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of like, let's test it out. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>because this hadn't really been done before. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have guys going down the submarine. Sure, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had people have been diving under water to catch fish,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know in Jacques Cousto, certainly it's spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time developing you know, you know, scuba

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<v Speaker 1>aqualung technology. But but this was a real first Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's pretty groundbreaking and um even though it

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<v Speaker 1>was basically like a low tech uh sort of, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a shipping container. Basically, it's low tech in

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what we think of today. But and

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<v Speaker 1>you you look at images from the inside and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like two dudes living in a big barrel. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it looks kind of it looks rugged. It's not yes,

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<v Speaker 1>socks everywhere, it's not pretty. Yeah, it's not very Steve

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<v Speaker 1>z sue. It's just like like guys living in a barrel. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So so that this was a success, so they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's try something a little more ambitious. Let's um, let's

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<v Speaker 1>actually maybe leave you know, our French backyard here and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, improved that we can do this in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a in a more exotic location. So they

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Red Sea and uh and and and

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<v Speaker 1>went down this time again ten meters in uh thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three ft and con shelf two had like three different facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>basically two main facilities. There was a starfish house, which

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look at so much like a starfish, but it

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<v Speaker 1>had like a central hub and like these little areas

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<v Speaker 1>come sticking off from the side. Um, when we do

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<v Speaker 1>a blog post for the round up for these podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's podcast, I'll be sure to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throw a link to a couple of good sites that

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<v Speaker 1>have lots of cool images of these. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they the main starfish house contained crew quarters, bathroom facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>a dining area, a laboratory. So suddenly everything's at everything

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot more life aquatic, a lot more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we think of as an undersea base and less

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<v Speaker 1>like a barrel right there, thinking more esthetically now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and next the next door to this, they have a

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<v Speaker 1>structure that they call the aquarium, which was basically a

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<v Speaker 1>garage for the fly for the diving saucer vehicle that

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<v Speaker 1>they had, which you know, cool little submersible unit UM

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<v Speaker 1>for zooming around underwater uh an equipment hangar. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they also had a complex called Deep Station, which was

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<v Speaker 1>located UM eight eighty two feet deep, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you know, it was even deeper

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<v Speaker 1>than than the main station. And this is a hat

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<v Speaker 1>and a habitat filled with oxygen helium mixture, with the

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<v Speaker 1>inhabitants divers leaving the habitat to do daily work below

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<v Speaker 1>one sixty feet. Okay, is this the one that they

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<v Speaker 1>spent a month in? Yes? Yeah, five Yeah, five m

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<v Speaker 1>aqua nuts or ocean knots would live Frenchy. No, I

0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:38.720
<v Speaker 1>really think that. Yeah, they call uh five. Five of

0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.040
<v Speaker 1>these guys with one or of gals. I think they

0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.880
<v Speaker 1>were all guys in this though, would live for a

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<v Speaker 1>month in the Starfish base. Two of them would spend

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<v Speaker 1>a week in the Deep Station. And once more project

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<v Speaker 1>was successful and Custo began talking about a third project. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I see the parallels here between this and space. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's you completely isolated, You're with very few people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that even though they they've gotten a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more pimped out here, you're it's still esthetically like

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<v Speaker 1>not like it is at home. The comfort level it

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<v Speaker 1>is isn't as great. And you have to wonder about

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<v Speaker 1>the psychological ramifications of this too. Yeah, just basic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you get down to the basics of humans

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<v Speaker 1>need sunlight, and the deeper you go, the less sunlight

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<v Speaker 1>there is, you know, a weird habitat plus being like

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<v Speaker 1>soggy all the time. That's gotta it's gotta chief. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to say nothing of the athletes foot or maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>called con shelf foot um with those in the new Yeah.

0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But but actually, you know, we talked about the space expiation.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the data that came out of this

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<v Speaker 1>and other experiments in the in the early sixties. I mean,

0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it was stuff that they could they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>apply to contemplating, you know, the habitats in the orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>This presensation is brought to you by Intel sponsors. Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're up to and this is con Shelf three,

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<v Speaker 1>the third and final um underwater habitat. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>like the Oldman. This was like a large yellow and

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<v Speaker 1>black six person sphere which was lowered to a depth

0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of oft. So the crew lived on con shelf three

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<v Speaker 1>for three weeks, venturing out each day to work in

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<v Speaker 1>a mock up oil well and uh, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, test their ability to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>leave this thing and work and then come back. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it was a success. They were they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to show that, yes, we can put people down there

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, at a at a considerable depth, and

0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.560
<v Speaker 1>they can they can actually operate and work within this

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this time limits. So right, and actually U

0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.040
<v Speaker 1>three hundred feet is is the norm, right for what

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.760
<v Speaker 1>we usually go down to in terms of depth that

0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.600
<v Speaker 1>we have access to. Yeah, yeah, because otherwise than you

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<v Speaker 1>get down into the really cool extreme a file territory,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. Yeah. So this was really pushing personal

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<v Speaker 1>the envelope um. At the same time, the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Navy was interested in this too, and so they had

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<v Speaker 1>the Sea Lab programs, which this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons I did not mention s Lab one earlier because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to confuse the issue. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>the actual sea lab, not to be confused with any

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon uh some sixty four Sea Lab one. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was this was very like the Sea Lab like con

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<v Speaker 1>Shell rolled out in three phases, very similar. Sea Lab

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<v Speaker 1>one was a you know, windowless red ciland cylinder had

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<v Speaker 1>four guys in it eleven days performing physical biological experiments.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh um. You know they were doing stuff with like

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<v Speaker 1>ultrasonic beacons and anti shark cages again just to see

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<v Speaker 1>how they performed. And this is off the off Panama City, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they they moved it about twenty six miles

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<v Speaker 1>southwestern Bermuda and tried it out two hundred feet and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a success. So they did Sea Lab two

0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in sixty five and this was this was out in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, and they had ten men depth of two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet thirty days. Uh. There was another cylinder type situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't as cool. I mean, it's just me,

0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's not as cool looking as they cond shelf too.

0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.840
<v Speaker 1>But that too, was was bigger, looked kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a little submarine. And and they they conducted you know,

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<v Speaker 1>physiological psychological studies. Yeah, that's what I think is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about this party. They took a lot of what they

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<v Speaker 1>learned from conch off right because cont originally I think

0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was was pitched to them, and they said no, and

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<v Speaker 1>coast and they do their own thing. Yeah, Jacosta said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it on. So it's what I think is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about Sea Lab is that they really are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this like the psychological strains and the physiological strains

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<v Speaker 1>on the person as well. Yeah, and the number of

0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.840
<v Speaker 1>experiments that they did on Sea Lab two was actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, like that they just really threw a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of task at these guys, Like, uh, they were evaluating

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<v Speaker 1>the struck full engineering at the habitat they worked up on.

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<v Speaker 1>They work on the mock up for a submarine hole.

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<v Speaker 1>They tested undersea tools, they used uh um, like like

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<v Speaker 1>foam to raise an old Navy jet fighter to the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>They experimented with plants um and they also experimented with

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<v Speaker 1>a trained porpoise named Toughie to do quote courier work

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<v Speaker 1>between the habitat and the surface. Um so tough uh

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<v Speaker 1>and Tofy was trained, uh yeah, trained to respond to

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<v Speaker 1>a buzzer and uh, Toffy would apparently did a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good job of bringing them male tools and bottles of soda,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't know, it sounds kind of demeaning, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean there's part of that part of that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, who

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't trained their dog to probably get them a beer?

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Will not me because I don't have a dog, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's always seemed like a good thing to do. Has

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<v Speaker 1>the cat been able to succeed in that yet? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll keep working now. I mean he's he's working on

0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:07.520
<v Speaker 1>bigger projects. Yeah, that he can't discuss with me. Well. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>Sea Lab three UM, which was similar to see Lab two,

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.919
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like more robust. Uh. It ended up

0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:17.439
<v Speaker 1>being kind of a disaster unfortunately, And this was February nine.

0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 1>They lowered it down to the ocean floor off off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of California. They sent four divers down to

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<v Speaker 1>repair hey, helium leak on Sea Lab three, and enduring

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<v Speaker 1>the attempt, one of the divers died, apparently of carbon

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<v Speaker 1>dioxide asphyxiation. Yeah. Yeah, so they were concerned about their

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<v Speaker 1>safety and they just shut it down. I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>is the rub right, the CEO two problem. Yeah, I mean,

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.040
<v Speaker 1>this is this is obviously why we can't um colonize

0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.359
<v Speaker 1>oceans like you for the oceans, I suppose, UM, but

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that we don't continue to try and

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<v Speaker 1>build really like macked out stuff like the trilobus. Oh yeah,

0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:58.040
<v Speaker 1>this one's really um, really awesome looking. Uh. This particular

0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>submersible habitat was the cover story for Popular Mechanics back

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand two, so you may have seen it there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll throw a link up to the to the website.

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<v Speaker 1>It has the images so cool. It's really really I

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.159
<v Speaker 1>dare say, boss, Yes, you know it looks like like

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<v Speaker 1>James Bond villain should be living in it and feeding

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<v Speaker 1>people to sharks. Um, it's true. And it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a sphere, right yeah, it's got different levels. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very like retro to me. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of looks like a like a space clam

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<v Speaker 1>that lives. It's it's it's really cool, but the clam

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<v Speaker 1>part being like the the where the windows are and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has like lots of areas you know, for

0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.720
<v Speaker 1>uns set by the set by the window and observe

0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, fish and dolphins swimming by. Yeah. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's definitely for the godfly of the seas,

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<v Speaker 1>right um. And it's got a spiral staircase connecting all

0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.159
<v Speaker 1>four levels. Yeah. So it's neat. We'll see if it

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<v Speaker 1>ever actually gets built, but the designs out there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like about it too is that they say

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<v Speaker 1>that the shape allows for modular aggregation, creating colonies if

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you'd like. So, I mean to me, I think of

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<v Speaker 1>it as like this super futuristic suslito. You know, these

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of they're not houseboats but necessarily, but these communities

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 1>they kind of like hook up and yeah. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have like a whole community of trilobus if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like trilobi um and and there then there, of course

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<v Speaker 1>is We've we discussed this a little bit in Life

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<v Speaker 1>on the five Floor. But you have you have Hydropolis,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the planned underwater skyscraper in Dubahi, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's this time right now. It's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>still in the works a k a. Being crushed by

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<v Speaker 1>the economy, so I don't know where they are in

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<v Speaker 1>the process, but it does sound like this completely crazy

0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 1>super fly. Of course, this is in Dubai, right, so

0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not going to be a junkie star sure, um,

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>but it includes a shopping mall, restaurants, movie theater, and

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 1>my favorite, the missile defense system. All sixty ft underwater.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the economy has been rough on everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>so in Goodbye, they just send to be like, all right,

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna tighten the belt. We're just gonna build the

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<v Speaker 1>largest skyscrapers that have ever been erected on the planet. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just we'll just hold off on building underwater

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.879
<v Speaker 1>skyscrapers that are protected by a town of weapons, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I like about this is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a poor man's Hydropolis is the Jewels Undersea Lodge Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is named after the author of Two Leagues under

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the Sea, and that is actually the world's first underwater hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was originally built in the seventies as a

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<v Speaker 1>research lab off the coast of Puerto Rico, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was relocated to Key Largo in eighties six and opened

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>its hatch to the public then. But it's twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>ft under the sea and you have to scooba dive

0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to get to it. So unlike Hydropolis, which they plan

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to have like this crazy clear glass um tube that

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>shoots you underneath. It's like in Futurama where they have

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 1>these these tubes these shoot people like pneumatic tubes that yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and supposedly it is supposed to be in the shape

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<v Speaker 1>of a jellyfish or resemble a jellyfish. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>really how that works, but that seems like more like

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<v Speaker 1>a subway system to me. Yeah, maybe they can work

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and making the overall design even more ambitious, right right,

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 1>or they could you know, save some money in stream land. Um.

0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:36.959
<v Speaker 1>So you know, they're there are different ways that you

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>can get at living undersea if you'd like, you know,

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 1>if you are the gadfly about town. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things we're looking at the other day too, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you have the National Science Foundations Ocean Observations Initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of forces you It's it's a really really

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's a complex, multi scale observatory plan where

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<v Speaker 1>you have uh it's like, you know, everything from like

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<v Speaker 1>this very regional observations uh of of the undersea environment

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to kind of interconnect into a global um it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like putting spy cameras. Like the very rough explanation

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<v Speaker 1>is like let's put spy cameras and sensors automated on

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the ocean floor. Let's have you know, automated submersible sort

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of going on patrol and checking out conditions. Right, Let's

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>collect data on every single thing we could collect data on,

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, let's run fiber optic um lines all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, like you said, cameras, Let's have platforms

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.119
<v Speaker 1>that we can observe, submersibles, anything and everything. Because the

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>idea is that the entire world can benefit from better

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>knowing its oceans and that we can help to predict

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>climate change. Um, we can look at the population of

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>uh species and really better understand what's going on because

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.919
<v Speaker 1>right now, I mean the ocean is largely unknown to us. Again,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>parallel to space, um, I mean, you know, it's covering

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>more of the world. So it does kind of make

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you say, okay, that that seems like it might be

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a good idea. Yeah, And it's an interesting parallel of

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the space too, because like both visions of us, you know,

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>moving under the ocean and moving into into the cosmos,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Like it was very much tied with the scientific exsporation.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go down there and figure out how things work.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go up there and and and figure out

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>what space is all about. And eventually that the technology

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>reaches the point where We're like, well, we can actually

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>do that easier without you know, trying to tackle all

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 1>these problems involving how to take a fragile human being

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's designed to live in a certain layer of

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>the Earth's atmosphere. How are you going to you know,

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>create the technology to safely send that into orbit or

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>into you know, pressurized depths when we can just send

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>robots instead, and and you know, and the idea is

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>understanding what's going on down there, so you know we

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>can This is a classic example. I mean, it's a

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>lot like robotic probes, you know, it's it's we can

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.479
<v Speaker 1>do this without necessarily sending people down there, right right.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And the the oceanographer John Delaney, who's heading up the

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>team working on this, he was actually saying, I mean,

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't saying this was the holy Grail, but I

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about as the holy grail in the sense

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>um that it's a quest to better understand our world.

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>But not only that, that beneath the on the ocean floor,

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.400
<v Speaker 1>there's all this biomass tied up living in microbes. Um

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>they're living in the sea cracks are but no beneath

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>the floor, and the total amount of biomass living at

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>the surface of Um. The ocean floor actually exceeds that

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of the planet's surface. So his idea is, could it,

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, could it be the next rainforce in terms

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 1>of potential pharmaceuticals And that's that's the holy grail element

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that I think that is really enticing, but also you know,

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>could be a red herring. Yeah, I mean, you know,

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it would be really interesting to defind out what sort

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of bacteria is there and could it be useful to us. Now,

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the flip side of that is, OK, when you start

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to interrupt ecosystems, because presumably there would be some level

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of interruption when you're laying on the cable, which we've

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>done a lot anyway, UM and you have all these submersibles,

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, what is it doing to the oceans? Yeah,

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, on one level, it's like we're already

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 1>laying We've been putting a lot of crap down there

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 1>for riches, and you know, we're erecting you know, oil

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>rigs and and and everything else. But you know, this

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>would be for a much more positive purpose. But still

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you're laying laying a lot of cable. You're you know,

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you're you're putting a lot of machines out there. Stuff

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>is gonna you know, there's gonna be a certain amount

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of litter that's gonna Yeah, and if you're if you're

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>going to try to map the entire ocean with sonar,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>what is that going to do to the population of

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, dolphins? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we already have examples

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of of a certain like navy and certain Navy sonar

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 1>techniques that are interfering with with with certain types of

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>whales and dolphins right in the breedy and and yeah, yeah,

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 1>they're getting it's I guess it's sort of confusing them

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>in terms of what they're perceiving from the sonar. So

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>there's that question. I mean, it really is intriguing to

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to be able to find out more. And what if

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>there is a sort of rainforest at the bottom of

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the sea for us, a mermaid kingdom and we or

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, or you know, or we've discovered the los

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>city of Atlantis and we took them off with our

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>robots and they attack us. It could happen. Well, if

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like Richard Branson, you just get into your submersible

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and use zoom away. And I'm not kidding. Oh, you know,

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I keep forgetting that he has a submersible. I end

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>up end up reading far more about his interest in

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>space and right again, here we go. He can't help

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>himself either space and um in the ocean. It's called

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the neck or nymph. I know it's a I mean

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>the name, I'm sorry, but the Necker part is Necker Island,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 1>which he owns, his private island. And the nymph part,

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I suppose its supposed to be a scene nymph um,

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>but it can dive to depths of up two hundred

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and thirty feet and he hopes to one day explore

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>depths of thirty five thousand feet plus. Um. But it

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>can carry a pilot in two visitors, it can go

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>on a two hour trip and uh after you have

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to of course be um fluid in the in the

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>language of scuba diving in order to do this. I

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>guess there's a legal protocol or something. But the nymph

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>is available for higher dollars a week. It just sounds

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>like a like some sort of a pleasure barge, just

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the nymph. I know, Richard Branson, come on, I mean yeah,

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what do you expect, um, But just

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>in case, you're wondering it does have fighter jet technology,

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's just in case you do come

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>across Atlantis. So, I mean, I don't know. All this

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of bears out the question of of, uh, what

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>do we do into the oceans? Who even owns the oceans?

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Jeoff Clark has an awesome article on that, and do

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a search on the House Opports homepage and find that yeah. Um,

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and and will we ever permanently have human occupation of

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the sea floor? I don't think so, but it can happen.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>We'll see, We'll see, well, I mean we won't see.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>We'll be dead, but somebody will see. Why I'm laughing

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>about that. You know. Well, Hey, we have some listener

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>mail here, and the first one actually uh corresponds with

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the theme of this podcast. We recently did an episode

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>on accessorizing to make a to make us more than

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>human and one of the technologies that we covered was

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the dolphins suit, which you wore for that podcast. Ye

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of uncomfortable, Yeah, but it hit at the y. Yeah.

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I bet uh So Richard uh a listener by the

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>name of Richard since this end, He says, Hi, I

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>recently bought these and he throws a link to something

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>called the Dark Thing. No, I'm sorry, dark Thin Gloves.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's dark fingloves, but it's Dark thin glove

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Not sure if I will ever use them,

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but I thought they were they were really cool and

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>priced well enough that I should own them, just to

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>say I own them. Maybe I'll freak my daughter out

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>at bathtime or something. So if you, if you go

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to the website and did you have a chance to

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>look at these, no, I haven't. All right, Well there

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>they're they're black webbed gloves and they kind of look

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like a creature from the Black Lagoon hands and uh

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and and I think would make an interesting companion to

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>those toe shoes that people were, all right, yeah, yeah,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I feel about that. Actually, uh,

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I've I've heard mixed things. Well, I mean, I think

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>toes are a separate issue into themselves. I'm not quite

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>sure that you should define them with toast sock shoes. Yeah,

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that's for another podcast, I suppose. But but

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>now these are these look pretty cool. I mean they

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>look kind of creepy and would I think would be

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>ideal for creeping somebody out at bathtime? Um? But but

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>also I mean it's like he's just adding webbing to

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>improve you know, you know, your speed. And I wonder

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>too if, like I don't. I try swim semi regularly,

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and I find it like holding my hand together to

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>make a like a like a scoop, a scoop just

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to swim with like end up, my fingers feel kind

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of sore the next day. And it makes sense because

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you're you're flexing your muscles and your your hands and

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>your fingers. Yeah, but it freaks you don't normally go

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>around like that all day long, right, Well, yeah, I

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just in case I need to karate ch out somebody,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>right right, So I'm just constantly and then I have

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to type. So but yeah, it's dangerous in these halls.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>You never know, you never know. But it makes me

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>makes me wonderus, like, should I just look into having

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>something that like holds my fingers together, so I'm that

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>straining to create that scoop, I don't know, I think,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I should probably do a searching. I mean,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, you have to type, you don't want to,

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, these are the moneymakers, exactly. I can't

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't depend just on podcasting. That's right, those babies

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>are insured. Yeah. So anyway, Richard, thanks for sending that in.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>They are pretty cool. And that's again. That's Dark Thin

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Gloves dot com. They have cool pictures. You can check

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>them out. We also received an email from the listener

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Derek and Uh. He responded to

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>our In a recent podcast we mentioned or I mentioned

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>how Atlanta shows up in The Walking Dead and has

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>all these like a post apocalyptic looking locations, despite the

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>fact that the the the film doesn't take that far

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in the future. So it's you know, it's like Atlanta

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>is pretty post apocalyptic looking already if you look in

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>most of the right places. Uh. And uh anyway, he

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>just wrote in to say, um, I took to point

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>out that says, quote, well, hopefully Atlanta doesn't look quite

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>as supposed to apocalyptic as it does in The Walking Dead. Uh.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>It does. Um, that's not the reason it was chosen

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>for the filming. The actual reason for it is that

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the series is based in a long running comics series

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>by Robert Kirkman, and in the comics, Uh, that was

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the major cities that was thrown out there

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to the living as a strong home stronghold before it

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>fell to the zombie, So he just was clearing that up.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>And he also said, apart from that, this was really interesting.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>He's talking about the Life on the five Floor episode. Uh,

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the concepts of virtual farming are mind blowing. So I

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>think I'll be sad if I live to see the

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>day when people live their entire lives in the same building.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>The loss of cross culture and social creation would be

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a very interesting thing to study. Though isolated pockets of

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>individuals whose influence is based off of what would essentially

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be isolationism and a futuristic internet social network, the psychological

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and sociological discussion would be endless. Yeah, seriously, And I

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>mean that that begs a question about whether or not

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>we'd have tribes within these these buildings, these living platforms.

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>We all have different tribe and different buildings. It would

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>be or entire to like different cultures in each building,

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like warring with each other. Well in gene pools too, Yeah,

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you have you have you basically have different Maybe you'd

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:44.959
<v Speaker 1>reach to the point where like you have building a

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>building beat and like they can't even like breed. Wow. Well,

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>instead of identifying yourself as American or Australian. You say

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm building a Yeah, Now tell me like Roomy and

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Juliet didn't. That wasn't part of the thing that everybody

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>lived in like sort of ancient skyscrapers to a certain extent,

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>like they if I remember that correctly, they lived in

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>felt like that that region had sort of tall buildings

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and everybody, every each family would have like a building.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't recall. I mean there's definitely a balcony in

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that so maybe so Yeah, all I'm saying is futuristic

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Romeo and Juliet one species living in Building A, one

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>species and living in Building B. Who's going to write it? Um?

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.960
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