1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: This is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie, have 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: you ever raised sea monkeys? I have? Yeah, Well are 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: you disappointed? Um? Yeah, a little bit, But I think 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: I was more intrigued by the atmosphere that they were 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: living in, Like that seems really magical. Well on the package, 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: it looks magical because it shows these little creatures living 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: and they have like a little undersea kingdom, and then 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: you expect that to take place to up and it 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: doesn't really happen. Now it doesn't, but I was taken 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: with that. I thought, oh yes, finally, Well, like like 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: growing sprouts is I find that to be far more satisfying. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: And at the end I have, like something delicious put 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: on a sandwich. Sea monkeys not that delicious, No, not 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. There are a species of brine shrimp, right, yeah, 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean not to take away them as stake here, 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah they're not. They're not actually you know, 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: hominid's in any way, shape or form. Yeah, tiny seaman. 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: But according to their packaging, they are a true miracle. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: Of nature. Yes, well, I mean everything is really but 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: but you know there's uh these undersea kingdoms that they had, 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: like it, like it really captured my imagination. I think 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people's imagination is because because there's something 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: like in the Psyche that just wants to see underwater cities. Um. 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: I guess it's just the like the just impossible nature 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: of it, the sort of topsy turvy world aspect of it. 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean if you think about it geographically, 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: it is like the Earth turned upside down or not 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: the Earth, but that what we see there as land lovers. Um, 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you want to hang out in that 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: submerged mountain range? Yeah? And it's you know, it's the 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: mystery of it too, like the what's underneath the water? 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: You know, and see some fish something that looks kind 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: of like a mermaid. Yeah, and then there's a whole 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: tranquil thing. Yeah. Yeah, and you know it's like your 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: wait list and it's yeah, it's uh so it's it's 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: a it's an idea that's been exploring in a number 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: of times, like just to run through like a few 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: of the famous ones, like in in myth you have 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: the Lost Cities of s and Atlantis. Yes, um, yes, 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: yes you do. Oh. I thought you're correcting because I 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly sure how to pronounce because it looks kind 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: of like yees and it and it's I thought it 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: was pronounced like S, but it could be yes, the 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: city of Yes. Yes, no, I was just agreeing they 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: are mythic. You have the City of Rapture in the 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Bioshot games. You have Lions in the War and War 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Gods of the Deep. You have the Lost City of 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta and Futurama. Did you ever see that one? It's 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: like the city of Atlanta, which where we're podcasting from, 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: is completely submerged and people live in it. Oh my goodness, 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to seek that one out. And uh, 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: it's not I mean, it's it's like an outsider's critique. Okay, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, does it have Marta, Does it 56 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: have like like for underground Atlanta. Yeah, because an insider's 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: view of the Lost City of Atlantis, I think would 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: would be a lot more interesting, at least to Atlanta, 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: because what happens to Marto when it's when it's submerged, 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: it's still late. Yeah, you have of course, uh uh 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: sub Diego of Aquaman. You have the city of and 62 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm never sure pronounced this, even though I've read Lovecraft 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: numerous times. We have the city of really really a yeah, 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: I know I've always wondered yea, yeah. I always just 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: think of it as like Caulu town, you know, yeah, 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: right yeah? And then uh, and then you have you 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: have like various like mechanical underwater cities that have popped up, 68 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: like um, I like or not or not always cities, 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: but sometimes just habitats. I have anyone who's seen any 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: of them. Like the late nineties, I feel like it 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: was when we had just tons of underwater base underwater city, 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: uh situation showing up in the films you have like 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: the Abyss, you had Deep Star six, you had the 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Leviath than the Lords of the deep Water World water World? 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Did they ever go into what I've never seen water World? 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: I haven't either actually think that they not having seen 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: it though, um, I think that they just created like 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of floating areas, floating cities. So nonetheless they 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: were on the water. Well, they were on the water. 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: They might have had stuff, yeah, slightly. I bet they 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: took a swim every once in a while. Yeah, in 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: the unfilmed sequel maybe, But but but anyway, outside of 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: the realm of myth and fantasy and science fiction, we 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: we've actually looked into this, uh through through a number 85 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: of experiments, and it's an idea that continues to capture 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: the imagination and it and often ends up spilling over 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: into a scientific inquiry. Yeah. And it seems to me 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: like like the nineteen fifties saw a really big fascination 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: with us and that this has some parallels with space colonization. Yeah, 90 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: the same sort of idea where we could enter this 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: mysterious um quiescent space and live our lives in a 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: completely different way. Yeah, and he goes back like anytime 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: you look at like the like the Walt Disney you know, 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: I've got Center Visions of Tomorrow or you know, the 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: World of Tomorrow, and it was, you know, it was 96 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: always like we're totally we're gonna do it, guys. We're 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna have cities on the moon, We're gonna we're gonna 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: live underwater and cities. I mean, it was just this 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: since that same sense of optimism that that you know, 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: that told us that with science at our side. You know, 101 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: the stars are ours and it's you know, so of 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: course the ocean is also within our grass. Of course. 103 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Of the funny thing now is it's driven by pessimism, 104 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: I think, because it's like, well, hm, we're really eating 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: up all the natural resources here and taking up a 106 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: lot of land. Maybe we should explore the oceans a 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: little bit more. Maybe that's possible to live underneath them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, well, the the environment is not 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: going too hot. Everything's gonna be underwater anyway, right, so 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: can we make it everything float or make it just 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: all waterproof? So New York City. Maybe it's just a 112 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: chain of little lisle ins and underground pods. Who knows. 113 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: So one of the first that really comes to mind, 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: like like when when this is when people were actually like, 115 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: let's let's do it. Let's let's try it out. Because 116 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: on the on the surface, on the on the surface 117 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: of things, like the idea sounds pretty simple, you know, 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: if you if you're not familiar with any of the 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the science involved, just like, well, let's just build something underwater. 120 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: You know, you saw it's air tight, pump some air 121 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: down to it, and people will live in it, right, 122 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: will be like the chunnel. Yeah, but it's it gets 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: a lot more complicated than that. And when one of 124 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: the the main guys who is really looking into this 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: UM in the late fifties or like sixties was of 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: course Custo. So wait, oh, I thought you were okay, 127 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna do more of a French tech 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: on Custo because I feel like I'm not getting the 129 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: proper Okay, it's just one syllable is that I don't 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: know anyway, not my forte jacqu Custos. Let's try your 131 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: more Italian see okay? Um. But Jacquesto had the con 132 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Shelf project and this was a series of three underwater 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: habitats that they explored and and it it gets right 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: into the idea of the aquanot, which is like the 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: astronaut except underwater. Basically it's just going down for an 136 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: extended period of time and adapting to the pressure. UH 137 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: scuba divers living and operating both inside and outsider and underwater. Right, 138 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: and to be in a specific about and we're not 139 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: talking about David Blaine like doing some sort of like 140 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: seventeen minutes done under the water. Um, but it's more 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: about someone living in an underwater habitat or using storm 142 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: sort of device for twenty four hours or more in 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: order to explore the area around him or herself. Yeah, 144 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the first one of these that Jacques Cousteau and company 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: pulled off was con shelf one. And this is two. 146 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: And this is just off the cop the coast of 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: France near Marcellus. And uh, they just went down about 148 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: they went down thirty three ft ten and this is 149 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: this thing just looks like a big steel, yellow barrel 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: about sixteen ft five meters long, you know, uh, eight 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: ft two point five meters in diameter. And it was 152 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: a you know, it's like a home laboratory. Two guys 153 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: in there one week, thirty people observing from the surface, 154 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: monitoring these guys health, um and uh. And they'd leave 155 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: the two for five hour shifts to study see life 156 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: work on an underwater farm, which sounds fabulous and uh 157 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: and and and again they're just like they weren't actually like, 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: all right, you know, we got to you know, get 159 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: a crop going this week. It is you know, it's 160 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: more like, let's let's observe what would happen if we 161 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: actually did have people down on the you know, the 162 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: bottom of of of the of the ocean working on something. 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: Let's let's look at their vitals. Let's see how they're doing. Right, 164 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: And it's a really practical solution to right, because they 165 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: don't have to decompress, they don't have to worry about 166 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: coming up. Um, so if they're able to hang out 167 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: there for a while, then they can you know, a 168 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: mass a lot of data, look at it, continue to 169 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: go out, so on and so forth. Yeah, because just 170 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: just without getting to a whole lot of depth about 171 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the about the bins, but you go down to certain 172 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: you go down to certain depths, you have more pressure 173 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: and that causes the gas and the breathable air to 174 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: dissolve into your flesh, right, the nitrogen. Yeah, and if 175 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: you surface too fast, you get nitrogen bubbles, which can 176 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: be exceedingly painful or fatal. So which means, you know, 177 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the longer you stay down, the longer you need to 178 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: come back up. Yeah. Right, And it was originally called 179 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: the Grecian bend, by the way, the Grecian Yeah, I 180 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: don't know what maybe they attributed like bending to the Grecians. 181 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, they observe people bending over. Oh, Wow. 182 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: So it's actually like you would come up and just 183 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: be bent over, Yeah, doubled over. And I know that. 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: So Concheff one was a success there. You know, it's 185 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: just sort of like, let's test it out. Let's see 186 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: because this hadn't really been done before. You know, you 187 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: have guys going down the submarine. Sure, you know, you 188 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: had people have been diving under water to catch fish, 189 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: and and you know in Jacques Cousto, certainly it's spent 190 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: a lot of time developing you know, you know, scuba 191 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: aqualung technology. But but this was a real first Yeah. 192 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty groundbreaking and um even though it 193 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: was basically like a low tech uh sort of, it 194 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: was like a shipping container. Basically, it's low tech in 195 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: in terms of what we think of today. But and 196 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: you you look at images from the inside and it 197 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: looks like two dudes living in a big barrel. Like 198 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: it looks kind of it looks rugged. It's not yes, 199 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: socks everywhere, it's not pretty. Yeah, it's not very Steve 200 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: z sue. It's just like like guys living in a barrel. Um. 201 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: So so that this was a success, so they're like, 202 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: let's try something a little more ambitious. Let's um, let's 203 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: actually maybe leave you know, our French backyard here and 204 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: and you know, improved that we can do this in 205 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: a in a in a more exotic location. So they 206 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: went to the Red Sea and uh and and and 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: went down this time again ten meters in uh thirty 208 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: three ft and con shelf two had like three different facilities, 209 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: basically two main facilities. There was a starfish house, which 210 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: doesn't look at so much like a starfish, but it 211 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: had like a central hub and like these little areas 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: come sticking off from the side. Um, when we do 213 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: a blog post for the round up for these podcasts 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: for this week's podcast, I'll be sure to you know, 215 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: throw a link to a couple of good sites that 216 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: have lots of cool images of these. But but yeah, 217 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: they the main starfish house contained crew quarters, bathroom facilities, 218 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: a dining area, a laboratory. So suddenly everything's at everything 219 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: is a lot more life aquatic, a lot more you know, 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: like we think of as an undersea base and less 221 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: like a barrel right there, thinking more esthetically now, yeah, 222 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: and next the next door to this, they have a 223 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: structure that they call the aquarium, which was basically a 224 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: garage for the fly for the diving saucer vehicle that 225 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: they had, which you know, cool little submersible unit UM 226 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: for zooming around underwater uh an equipment hangar. And then 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: they also had a complex called Deep Station, which was 228 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: located UM eight eighty two feet deep, so it was 229 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you know, it was even deeper 230 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: than than the main station. And this is a hat 231 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: and a habitat filled with oxygen helium mixture, with the 232 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: inhabitants divers leaving the habitat to do daily work below 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: one sixty feet. Okay, is this the one that they 234 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: spent a month in? Yes? Yeah, five Yeah, five m 235 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: aqua nuts or ocean knots would live Frenchy. No, I 236 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: really think that. Yeah, they call uh five. Five of 237 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: these guys with one or of gals. I think they 238 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: were all guys in this though, would live for a 239 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: month in the Starfish base. Two of them would spend 240 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: a week in the Deep Station. And once more project 241 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: was successful and Custo began talking about a third project. Yeah, 242 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: and again I see the parallels here between this and space. Right, 243 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: Like there's you completely isolated, You're with very few people. 244 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean that even though they they've gotten a little 245 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: bit more pimped out here, you're it's still esthetically like 246 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: not like it is at home. The comfort level it 247 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: is isn't as great. And you have to wonder about 248 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: the psychological ramifications of this too. Yeah, just basic. I mean, 249 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: it's like you get down to the basics of humans 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: need sunlight, and the deeper you go, the less sunlight 251 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: there is, you know, a weird habitat plus being like 252 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: soggy all the time. That's gotta it's gotta chief. Yeah, 253 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: to say nothing of the athletes foot or maybe it's 254 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: called con shelf foot um with those in the new Yeah. 255 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: But but actually, you know, we talked about the space expiation. 256 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: A lot of the data that came out of this 257 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: and other experiments in the in the early sixties. I mean, 258 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: it was stuff that they could they were able to 259 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: apply to contemplating, you know, the habitats in the orbit. 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: This presensation is brought to you by Intel sponsors. Tomorrow. 261 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: Now we're up to and this is con Shelf three, 262 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: the third and final um underwater habitat. And this was 263 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: like the Oldman. This was like a large yellow and 264 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: black six person sphere which was lowered to a depth 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: of oft. So the crew lived on con shelf three 266 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: for three weeks, venturing out each day to work in 267 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: a mock up oil well and uh, you know, just 268 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: to you know, test their ability to you know, to 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: leave this thing and work and then come back. And 270 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: again it was a success. They were they were able 271 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: to show that, yes, we can put people down there 272 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: on you know, at a at a considerable depth, and 273 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: they can they can actually operate and work within this 274 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, this time limits. So right, and actually U 275 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: three hundred feet is is the norm, right for what 276 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: we usually go down to in terms of depth that 277 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: we have access to. Yeah, yeah, because otherwise than you 278 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: get down into the really cool extreme a file territory, 279 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: so to speak. Yeah. So this was really pushing personal 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the envelope um. At the same time, the U. S. 281 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Navy was interested in this too, and so they had 282 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: the Sea Lab programs, which this is one of the 283 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: reasons I did not mention s Lab one earlier because 284 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: I didn't want to confuse the issue. But this is 285 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: the actual sea lab, not to be confused with any 286 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: cartoon uh some sixty four Sea Lab one. And this 287 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: was this was very like the Sea Lab like con 288 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Shell rolled out in three phases, very similar. Sea Lab 289 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: one was a you know, windowless red ciland cylinder had 290 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: four guys in it eleven days performing physical biological experiments. 291 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Uh um. You know they were doing stuff with like 292 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: ultrasonic beacons and anti shark cages again just to see 293 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: how they performed. And this is off the off Panama City, Florida. 294 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: And then they they moved it about twenty six miles 295 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: southwestern Bermuda and tried it out two hundred feet and 296 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: it was a success. So they did Sea Lab two 297 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: in sixty five and this was this was out in 298 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco, and they had ten men depth of two 299 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: hundred feet thirty days. Uh. There was another cylinder type situation. 300 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: So it wasn't as cool. I mean, it's just me, 301 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: but it's not as cool looking as they cond shelf too. 302 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: But that too, was was bigger, looked kind of like 303 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: a little submarine. And and they they conducted you know, 304 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: physiological psychological studies. Yeah, that's what I think is interesting 305 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: about this party. They took a lot of what they 306 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: learned from conch off right because cont originally I think 307 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: was was pitched to them, and they said no, and 308 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: coast and they do their own thing. Yeah, Jacosta said, 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: I'll take it on. So it's what I think is 310 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: interesting about Sea Lab is that they really are looking 311 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: at this like the psychological strains and the physiological strains 312 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: on the person as well. Yeah, and the number of 313 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: experiments that they did on Sea Lab two was actually 314 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool, like that they just really threw a lot 315 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: of task at these guys, Like, uh, they were evaluating 316 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the struck full engineering at the habitat they worked up on. 317 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: They work on the mock up for a submarine hole. 318 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: They tested undersea tools, they used uh um, like like 319 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: foam to raise an old Navy jet fighter to the surface. 320 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: They experimented with plants um and they also experimented with 321 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: a trained porpoise named Toughie to do quote courier work 322 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: between the habitat and the surface. Um so tough uh 323 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: and Tofy was trained, uh yeah, trained to respond to 324 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: a buzzer and uh, Toffy would apparently did a pretty 325 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: good job of bringing them male tools and bottles of soda, 326 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: which I don't know, it sounds kind of demeaning, but no, 327 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: but I mean there's part of that part of that 328 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, who 329 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: hasn't trained their dog to probably get them a beer? 330 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Will not me because I don't have a dog, But 331 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: it's always seemed like a good thing to do. Has 332 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: the cat been able to succeed in that yet? Okay, 333 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: we'll keep working now. I mean he's he's working on 334 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: bigger projects. Yeah, that he can't discuss with me. Well. Sadly, 335 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: Sea Lab three UM, which was similar to see Lab two, 336 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: just kind of like more robust. Uh. It ended up 337 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: being kind of a disaster unfortunately, And this was February nine. 338 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: They lowered it down to the ocean floor off off 339 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: the coast of California. They sent four divers down to 340 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: repair hey, helium leak on Sea Lab three, and enduring 341 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: the attempt, one of the divers died, apparently of carbon 342 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: dioxide asphyxiation. Yeah. Yeah, so they were concerned about their 343 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: safety and they just shut it down. I mean this 344 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: is the rub right, the CEO two problem. Yeah, I mean, 345 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: this is this is obviously why we can't um colonize 346 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: oceans like you for the oceans, I suppose, UM, but 347 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we don't continue to try and 348 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: build really like macked out stuff like the trilobus. Oh yeah, 349 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: this one's really um, really awesome looking. Uh. This particular 350 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: submersible habitat was the cover story for Popular Mechanics back 351 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand two, so you may have seen it there. 352 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: I'll throw a link up to the to the website. 353 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: It has the images so cool. It's really really I 354 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: dare say, boss, Yes, you know it looks like like 355 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: James Bond villain should be living in it and feeding 356 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: people to sharks. Um, it's true. And it's it's like 357 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: a sphere, right yeah, it's got different levels. Yeah. Um, 358 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: it's very like retro to me. At the same time, 359 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: it kind of looks like a like a space clam 360 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: that lives. It's it's it's really cool, but the clam 361 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: part being like the the where the windows are and yeah, 362 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: and it has like lots of areas you know, for 363 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: uns set by the set by the window and observe 364 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, fish and dolphins swimming by. Yeah. Yeah, I 365 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: mean it's it's definitely for the godfly of the seas, 366 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: right um. And it's got a spiral staircase connecting all 367 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: four levels. Yeah. So it's neat. We'll see if it 368 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: ever actually gets built, but the designs out there. Yeah. 369 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: What I like about it too is that they say 370 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: that the shape allows for modular aggregation, creating colonies if 371 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: you'd like. So, I mean to me, I think of 372 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: it as like this super futuristic suslito. You know, these 373 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: sort of they're not houseboats but necessarily, but these communities 374 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: they kind of like hook up and yeah. Right, you 375 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: can have like a whole community of trilobus if you'd 376 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: like trilobi um and and there then there, of course 377 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: is We've we discussed this a little bit in Life 378 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: on the five Floor. But you have you have Hydropolis, 379 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: which is the planned underwater skyscraper in Dubahi, right yeah, 380 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and it's this time right now. It's I think it's 381 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: still in the works a k a. Being crushed by 382 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: the economy, so I don't know where they are in 383 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: the process, but it does sound like this completely crazy 384 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: super fly. Of course, this is in Dubai, right, so 385 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be a junkie star sure, um, 386 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: but it includes a shopping mall, restaurants, movie theater, and 387 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: my favorite, the missile defense system. All sixty ft underwater. 388 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: But you know, the economy has been rough on everybody, 389 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: so in Goodbye, they just send to be like, all right, 390 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna tighten the belt. We're just gonna build the 391 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: largest skyscrapers that have ever been erected on the planet. Uh, 392 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: and we'll just we'll just hold off on building underwater 393 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: skyscrapers that are protected by a town of weapons, right exactly. 394 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: But what I like about this is that, you know, 395 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: a poor man's Hydropolis is the Jewels Undersea Lodge Um, 396 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: which is named after the author of Two Leagues under 397 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: the Sea, and that is actually the world's first underwater hotel. 398 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: And it was originally built in the seventies as a 399 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: research lab off the coast of Puerto Rico, and it 400 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: was relocated to Key Largo in eighties six and opened 401 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: its hatch to the public then. But it's twenty one 402 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: ft under the sea and you have to scooba dive 403 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: to get to it. So unlike Hydropolis, which they plan 404 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: to have like this crazy clear glass um tube that 405 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: shoots you underneath. It's like in Futurama where they have 406 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: these these tubes these shoot people like pneumatic tubes that yes, yeah, yeah, 407 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: and supposedly it is supposed to be in the shape 408 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: of a jellyfish or resemble a jellyfish. I don't know 409 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: really how that works, but that seems like more like 410 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: a subway system to me. Yeah, maybe they can work 411 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: and making the overall design even more ambitious, right right, 412 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: or they could you know, save some money in stream land. Um. 413 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: So you know, they're there are different ways that you 414 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: can get at living undersea if you'd like, you know, 415 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: if you are the gadfly about town. One of the 416 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: interesting things we're looking at the other day too, is 417 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: that you have the National Science Foundations Ocean Observations Initiative. 418 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: It kind of forces you It's it's a really really 419 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: kind of it's a complex, multi scale observatory plan where 420 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: you have uh it's like, you know, everything from like 421 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: this very regional observations uh of of the undersea environment 422 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: to kind of interconnect into a global um it's kind 423 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: of like putting spy cameras. Like the very rough explanation 424 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: is like let's put spy cameras and sensors automated on 425 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the ocean floor. Let's have you know, automated submersible sort 426 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: of going on patrol and checking out conditions. Right, Let's 427 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: collect data on every single thing we could collect data on, 428 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: and you know, let's run fiber optic um lines all 429 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: over the place, like you said, cameras, Let's have platforms 430 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: that we can observe, submersibles, anything and everything. Because the 431 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: idea is that the entire world can benefit from better 432 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: knowing its oceans and that we can help to predict 433 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: climate change. Um, we can look at the population of 434 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: uh species and really better understand what's going on because 435 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: right now, I mean the ocean is largely unknown to us. Again, 436 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: parallel to space, um, I mean, you know, it's covering 437 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: more of the world. So it does kind of make 438 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: you say, okay, that that seems like it might be 439 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: a good idea. Yeah, And it's an interesting parallel of 440 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: the space too, because like both visions of us, you know, 441 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: moving under the ocean and moving into into the cosmos, 442 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Like it was very much tied with the scientific exsporation. 443 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna go down there and figure out how things work. 444 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna go up there and and and figure out 445 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: what space is all about. And eventually that the technology 446 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: reaches the point where We're like, well, we can actually 447 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: do that easier without you know, trying to tackle all 448 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: these problems involving how to take a fragile human being 449 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: that's that's designed to live in a certain layer of 450 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: the Earth's atmosphere. How are you going to you know, 451 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: create the technology to safely send that into orbit or 452 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: into you know, pressurized depths when we can just send 453 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: robots instead, and and you know, and the idea is 454 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: understanding what's going on down there, so you know we 455 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: can This is a classic example. I mean, it's a 456 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: lot like robotic probes, you know, it's it's we can 457 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: do this without necessarily sending people down there, right right. 458 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: And the the oceanographer John Delaney, who's heading up the 459 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: team working on this, he was actually saying, I mean, 460 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't saying this was the holy Grail, but I 461 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: was thinking about as the holy grail in the sense 462 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: um that it's a quest to better understand our world. 463 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: But not only that, that beneath the on the ocean floor, 464 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: there's all this biomass tied up living in microbes. Um 465 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: they're living in the sea cracks are but no beneath 466 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: the floor, and the total amount of biomass living at 467 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: the surface of Um. The ocean floor actually exceeds that 468 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: of the planet's surface. So his idea is, could it, 469 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, could it be the next rainforce in terms 470 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: of potential pharmaceuticals And that's that's the holy grail element 471 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: that I think that is really enticing, but also you know, 472 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: could be a red herring. Yeah, I mean, you know, 473 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: it would be really interesting to defind out what sort 474 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: of bacteria is there and could it be useful to us. Now, 475 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: the flip side of that is, OK, when you start 476 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: to interrupt ecosystems, because presumably there would be some level 477 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: of interruption when you're laying on the cable, which we've 478 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: done a lot anyway, UM and you have all these submersibles, 479 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, what is it doing to the oceans? Yeah, 480 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: because I mean, on one level, it's like we're already 481 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: laying We've been putting a lot of crap down there 482 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: for riches, and you know, we're erecting you know, oil 483 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: rigs and and and everything else. But you know, this 484 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: would be for a much more positive purpose. But still 485 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: you're laying laying a lot of cable. You're you know, 486 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: you're you're putting a lot of machines out there. Stuff 487 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: is gonna you know, there's gonna be a certain amount 488 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: of litter that's gonna Yeah, and if you're if you're 489 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: going to try to map the entire ocean with sonar, 490 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: what is that going to do to the population of 491 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, dolphins? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we already have examples 492 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: of of a certain like navy and certain Navy sonar 493 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: techniques that are interfering with with with certain types of 494 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: whales and dolphins right in the breedy and and yeah, yeah, 495 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: they're getting it's I guess it's sort of confusing them 496 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: in terms of what they're perceiving from the sonar. So 497 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: there's that question. I mean, it really is intriguing to 498 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: to be able to find out more. And what if 499 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: there is a sort of rainforest at the bottom of 500 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: the sea for us, a mermaid kingdom and we or 501 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, or you know, or we've discovered the los 502 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: city of Atlantis and we took them off with our 503 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: robots and they attack us. It could happen. Well, if 504 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: you're like Richard Branson, you just get into your submersible 505 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: and use zoom away. And I'm not kidding. Oh, you know, 506 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: I keep forgetting that he has a submersible. I end 507 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: up end up reading far more about his interest in 508 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: space and right again, here we go. He can't help 509 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: himself either space and um in the ocean. It's called 510 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: the neck or nymph. I know it's a I mean 511 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: the name, I'm sorry, but the Necker part is Necker Island, 512 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: which he owns, his private island. And the nymph part, 513 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: I suppose its supposed to be a scene nymph um, 514 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: but it can dive to depths of up two hundred 515 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: and thirty feet and he hopes to one day explore 516 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: depths of thirty five thousand feet plus. Um. But it 517 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: can carry a pilot in two visitors, it can go 518 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: on a two hour trip and uh after you have 519 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: to of course be um fluid in the in the 520 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: language of scuba diving in order to do this. I 521 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: guess there's a legal protocol or something. But the nymph 522 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: is available for higher dollars a week. It just sounds 523 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: like a like some sort of a pleasure barge, just 524 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the nymph. I know, Richard Branson, come on, I mean yeah, 525 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what do you expect, um, But just 526 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: in case, you're wondering it does have fighter jet technology, 527 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: because you know, it's just in case you do come 528 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: across Atlantis. So, I mean, I don't know. All this 529 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: sort of bears out the question of of, uh, what 530 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: do we do into the oceans? Who even owns the oceans? 531 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: Jeoff Clark has an awesome article on that, and do 532 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: a search on the House Opports homepage and find that yeah. Um, 533 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: and and will we ever permanently have human occupation of 534 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: the sea floor? I don't think so, but it can happen. 535 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see, well, I mean we won't see. 536 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: We'll be dead, but somebody will see. Why I'm laughing 537 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: about that. You know. Well, Hey, we have some listener 538 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: mail here, and the first one actually uh corresponds with 539 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: the theme of this podcast. We recently did an episode 540 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: on accessorizing to make a to make us more than 541 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: human and one of the technologies that we covered was 542 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: the dolphins suit, which you wore for that podcast. Ye 543 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: kind of uncomfortable, Yeah, but it hit at the y. Yeah. 544 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: I bet uh So Richard uh a listener by the 545 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: name of Richard since this end, He says, Hi, I 546 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: recently bought these and he throws a link to something 547 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: called the Dark Thing. No, I'm sorry, dark Thin Gloves. 548 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I think it's dark fingloves, but it's Dark thin glove 549 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: dot com. Not sure if I will ever use them, 550 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: but I thought they were they were really cool and 551 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: priced well enough that I should own them, just to 552 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: say I own them. Maybe I'll freak my daughter out 553 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: at bathtime or something. So if you, if you go 554 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: to the website and did you have a chance to 555 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: look at these, no, I haven't. All right, Well there 556 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: they're they're black webbed gloves and they kind of look 557 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: like a creature from the Black Lagoon hands and uh 558 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: and and I think would make an interesting companion to 559 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: those toe shoes that people were, all right, yeah, yeah, 560 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that. Actually, uh, 561 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: I've I've heard mixed things. Well, I mean, I think 562 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: toes are a separate issue into themselves. I'm not quite 563 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: sure that you should define them with toast sock shoes. Yeah, 564 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's for another podcast, I suppose. But but 565 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: now these are these look pretty cool. I mean they 566 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: look kind of creepy and would I think would be 567 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: ideal for creeping somebody out at bathtime? Um? But but 568 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: also I mean it's like he's just adding webbing to 569 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: improve you know, you know, your speed. And I wonder 570 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: too if, like I don't. I try swim semi regularly, 571 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: and I find it like holding my hand together to 572 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: make a like a like a scoop, a scoop just 573 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: to swim with like end up, my fingers feel kind 574 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: of sore the next day. And it makes sense because 575 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: you're you're flexing your muscles and your your hands and 576 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: your fingers. Yeah, but it freaks you don't normally go 577 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: around like that all day long, right, Well, yeah, I 578 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: just in case I need to karate ch out somebody, 579 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: right right, So I'm just constantly and then I have 580 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: to type. So but yeah, it's dangerous in these halls. 581 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: You never know, you never know. But it makes me 582 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: makes me wonderus, like, should I just look into having 583 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: something that like holds my fingers together, so I'm that 584 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: straining to create that scoop, I don't know, I think, 585 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: so yeah, I should probably do a searching. I mean, 586 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: keep in mind, you have to type, you don't want to, 587 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, these are the moneymakers, exactly. I can't 588 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: I can't depend just on podcasting. That's right, those babies 589 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: are insured. Yeah. So anyway, Richard, thanks for sending that in. 590 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: They are pretty cool. And that's again. That's Dark Thin 591 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Gloves dot com. They have cool pictures. You can check 592 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: them out. We also received an email from the listener 593 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: by the name of Derek and Uh. He responded to 594 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: our In a recent podcast we mentioned or I mentioned 595 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: how Atlanta shows up in The Walking Dead and has 596 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: all these like a post apocalyptic looking locations, despite the 597 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: fact that the the the film doesn't take that far 598 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: in the future. So it's you know, it's like Atlanta 599 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: is pretty post apocalyptic looking already if you look in 600 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: most of the right places. Uh. And uh anyway, he 601 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: just wrote in to say, um, I took to point 602 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: out that says, quote, well, hopefully Atlanta doesn't look quite 603 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: as supposed to apocalyptic as it does in The Walking Dead. Uh. 604 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: It does. Um, that's not the reason it was chosen 605 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: for the filming. The actual reason for it is that 606 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: the series is based in a long running comics series 607 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: by Robert Kirkman, and in the comics, Uh, that was 608 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: one of the major cities that was thrown out there 609 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: to the living as a strong home stronghold before it 610 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: fell to the zombie, So he just was clearing that up. 611 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: And he also said, apart from that, this was really interesting. 612 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: He's talking about the Life on the five Floor episode. Uh, 613 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: the concepts of virtual farming are mind blowing. So I 614 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: think I'll be sad if I live to see the 615 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: day when people live their entire lives in the same building. 616 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: The loss of cross culture and social creation would be 617 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing to study. Though isolated pockets of 618 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: individuals whose influence is based off of what would essentially 619 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: be isolationism and a futuristic internet social network, the psychological 620 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: and sociological discussion would be endless. Yeah, seriously, And I 621 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: mean that that begs a question about whether or not 622 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: we'd have tribes within these these buildings, these living platforms. 623 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: We all have different tribe and different buildings. It would 624 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: be or entire to like different cultures in each building, 625 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: like warring with each other. Well in gene pools too, Yeah, 626 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: you have you have you basically have different Maybe you'd 627 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: reach to the point where like you have building a 628 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: building beat and like they can't even like breed. Wow. Well, 629 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: instead of identifying yourself as American or Australian. You say 630 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm building a Yeah, Now tell me like Roomy and 631 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: Juliet didn't. That wasn't part of the thing that everybody 632 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: lived in like sort of ancient skyscrapers to a certain extent, 633 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: like they if I remember that correctly, they lived in 634 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: felt like that that region had sort of tall buildings 635 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: and everybody, every each family would have like a building. 636 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't recall. I mean there's definitely a balcony in 637 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: that so maybe so Yeah, all I'm saying is futuristic 638 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet one species living in Building A, one 639 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: species and living in Building B. 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