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Speaker 1: Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minkie. Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 1: It was an incredibly dangerous thing to be a woman

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Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century who disagreed with her husband. A

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Speaker 1: woman named Anne Askew was born in fifteen twenty one

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Speaker 1: in Lincolnshire. When she was fifteen years old, her sister died.

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Speaker 1: Her sister had been engaged to a man named Thomas Kim,

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Speaker 1: father simply substituted Anne in to marry her sister's fiancee.

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Speaker 1: One daughter was as good as the next. Thomas Kime

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Speaker 1: was a Catholic, and he quickly realized that his young

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Speaker 1: to find her studying the Bible or reciting Versus quietly

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Speaker 1: to herself that she was trying to memorize and publicly

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Speaker 1: challenged the idea of trans substantiation, the notion that when

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Speaker 1: taking Holy Communion, the wayfer and wine literally transformed into

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Speaker 1: the flesh and blood of Christ. Word got around town.

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Speaker 1: Other women began avoiding Anne in the streets. And the shops.

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Speaker 1: Though Thomas Kim and Anne had two young children, he

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Speaker 1: was not put off, unmoored, but not undeterred. She moved

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Speaker 1: A woman preaching is bad enough. A woman preaching heretical

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Speaker 1: ideas cause enough for a rest. In fifteen, Anne ask

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Speaker 1: You was twenty five years old and she was brought

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Speaker 1: to the Tower of London. She was tortured on the

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Speaker 1: rack by men who demanded to know what other high

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Speaker 1: born women shared her beliefs. The torture was brutal and unceasing,

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Speaker 1: lasting months. By the time Anne was finally brought to

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Speaker 1: was burned along with three other Protestants. Funnily enough, one

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Speaker 1: of the men executed with her was John Lassells. That

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Speaker 1: name might sound a little familiar to you if you

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Speaker 1: had listened to my episode about Catherine Howard. John Lassell's

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Speaker 1: had been the one who reported the young queen's licentious past,

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Speaker 1: which led to her beheading. It's said by those who

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Speaker 1: watched Anne's burning that she was incredibly brave that she

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Speaker 1: didn't cry out until the flames reached her chest. A

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Speaker 1: supporter had managed to secretly slip her gunpowder to hide

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Speaker 1: men quickly and mercifully. Even through all of her torture,

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Speaker 1: Anne never gave up any names of any other prominent

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Speaker 1: Protestant women, but the torturers were really only interested in

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Speaker 1: one name. They wanted Anne to implicate Catherine Parr, King

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Speaker 1: Henry the eighth, sixth and final wife. Catherine had already

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Speaker 1: upset many at court for the strength of her evangelical views,

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Speaker 1: her down. It wouldn't take much. Gossip in court was

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Speaker 1: that the king had already grown frustrated with the way

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Speaker 1: his wife debated him on matters of religion. Ambassadors wrote

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Speaker 1: that he had already been casting his eye around for

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Speaker 1: wife number seven. Being the wife of King Henry the

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Speaker 1: eighth was like holding a fistful of gunpowder. It would

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Speaker 1: only take a spark for an explosion and a quick death.

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Speaker 1: Catherine Parr's intelligence had put her in danger, but it

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Speaker 1: would also be the key to her survival. I'm Dani Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: and this is noble blood. Catherine Parr was seventeen when

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Speaker 1: she married a man named Edward Burrow, but the marriage

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Speaker 1: didn't last long. Three years later, Edward Burrow had died

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Speaker 1: and Catherine Parr was a young childless widow. But she

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Speaker 1: was also a young childless widow who came from a

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Speaker 1: this time to a man named John Neville, Lord Latimer

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Speaker 1: of Snape. Two Harry Potter names in one side note.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up. J. K. Rowling did name Snape

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Speaker 1: after a village, but it wasn't that village. Latimer was

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Speaker 1: to Catherine Parr, who spoke and wrote English, French and Italian,

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Speaker 1: who was already reading religious doctrine that her Catholic husband,

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Speaker 1: no doubt wouldn't have approved of if he had been

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Speaker 1: teas Thomas is on the lookout for a rich widow.

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Speaker 1: Thomas Seymour was a few things. He was handsome, definitely charming,

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Speaker 1: of thoughts of impropriety on her part. Catherine was just

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Speaker 1: dutifully for her ailing husband. Rather than flirt, she spent

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Speaker 1: eighth daughter. Katherine Parr's mother had been a lady in

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Speaker 1: waiting to Katherine Everdon, Mary's mother, so the two had

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Speaker 1: they reunited over their shared love of academia. Though Catherine's

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Speaker 1: didn't affect their friendship at all. Mary encouraged Catherine to

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Speaker 1: her education had been decent, but far from comprehensive. It

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Speaker 1: She was still y'all, thirty one, twice widowed, orphaned, and

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Speaker 1: with the inheritance of her husband's estate, independently wealthy. Her

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Speaker 1: except love. At thirty one, Katherine Parr's life could finally begin,

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Speaker 1: and so Catherine Parr could finally look at Thomas Seymour,

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Speaker 1: and she found him looking back at her, smiling that

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Speaker 1: that life had landed her here, exactly where she belonged.

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Speaker 1: It had been a busy few years at court since

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Speaker 1: Catherine Parr and her husband had arrived from Yorkshire. King

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Speaker 1: Henry the eighth had finally gotten his son, although it

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Speaker 1: It would be another year as a widower before Henry

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Speaker 1: By this point, Henry the Eighth had finally evolved into

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Speaker 1: probably eating a giant turkey leg. King Henry the Eighth's

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Speaker 1: waist had ballooned to fifty three inches, which required specially

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Speaker 1: day of the year. Marrying the teenager Katherine Howard had

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Speaker 1: been a mistake. He knew that now she was too young,

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Speaker 1: Now for his sixth wife, he needed someone of absolutely

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Speaker 1: unimpeachable character, someone like Catherine Parr. She was wiser, older,

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Speaker 1: but not so old that she couldn't still bear him

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Speaker 1: another son. That was important. In an ideal world, Henry

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Speaker 1: that his lineage was secure. Henry needed a queen to

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Speaker 1: though he hated to admit it, he was lonely. Henry

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Speaker 1: had always loved the company of women. Loves discussion and

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Speaker 1: it so wrong that in his final years he wanted

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Speaker 1: had also made Henry more aware of his formerly estranged daughters,

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Speaker 1: important thing, don't they, So if you're going to marry

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Speaker 1: least do so with the courtesy of choosing someone who's

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Speaker 1: friends with your daughters. It was a month before Catherine

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Speaker 1: Parr's husband actually died that Henry began sending along letters

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Speaker 1: two husbands. Hadn't she earned that? But when the King

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Speaker 1: write to Thomas Seymour in a letter, as truly as

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Speaker 1: I know. Henry knew that Catherine had been interested in

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Speaker 1: that she wanted to marry him. Henry also didn't care

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Speaker 1: when he proposed to Katherine Parr a few months later,

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Speaker 1: but good natured enough agreed. Usually one doesn't ask the

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Speaker 1: but this situation wasn't usual. Katherine Parr was within a

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Speaker 1: that that vision of the future was already dead. The

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Speaker 1: to marry you. That was really what Henry understood full

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Speaker 1: was still the king. Catherine would be giving up her

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Speaker 1: Privilege is not the same as freedom. The massive privileges

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Speaker 1: England would come at a heavy price. She would lose

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Speaker 1: as much as she would gain. But Henry's will was

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Speaker 1: God's will. It was around this time that Henry decided,

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Speaker 1: for no particular reason, that he would send Thomas Seymour

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Speaker 1: blood tails dot com. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. M hmm