1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: What do you do in life doesn't go according to plan? 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: That moment you lose the job, or a loved one, 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: or even a piece of yourself. I'm Brookshields and this 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: is now What, a podcast about pivotal moments as told 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: by people who lived them. Each week, I sit down 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: with a guest to talk about the times they were 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: knocked off course and what they did to move forward. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Some stories are funny, others are cut wrenching, but all 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: are unapologetically human and remind us that every success and 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: every setback is accompanied by a choice, and that choice 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: answers one question. Now, what do you sweat under your eyes? 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Is that? What? That is? Why? Under your eyes? I've 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: never heard of anything like that. Almost supermodel, but I 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: know so many supermodels. Nobody sweats under their eyes for 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: the ones over eight. Um, there's something about the being 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: around me, being around you. It makes me nervous and 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: then I start to sweat, and it it just um 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: collects and it's part of my glasses and you'll see, 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: you'll see a miss, you'll see the moisture. My guest 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: today is one of my very best friends, Ali Wentworth. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Ali is a comedian, writer and actor. A producer and 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: a fellow podcast host. Her show, Go Ask Alli, drops 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: each week and never ceases to make me smile, sometimes 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: cry a little. Ali's interviews are incredible, so good, in fact, 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: that we decided to mix it up this week and 26 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: have her interview me. We talk about our now what moments, 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: our darkest, deepest secrets. We even play a few games, 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: including her favorite bad choices. We had a blast and 29 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: our producers enjoyed the conversation so much that they it 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: run twice as long. Half of it airs today on 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: this show. The other half airs this Thursday on Go 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Ask Ali. So, without further ado, here is Ali Wentworth. 33 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, I am here with my bestie Ali, and 34 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Ali Wentworth is going to actually reverse the tables on us, 35 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: and for a change, she's gonna put me in the 36 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: hot seat this week. So Ali, should we just start? 37 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I think we should start. Been chomping at the bit. 38 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I'll wait to get down and dirty with you, all right. 39 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off easy and then we're gonna go 40 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: into some stuff that I hope nobody in your family 41 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: ever hears. But let's just carrying our listeners in slow 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: and easy like jazz I'm gonna ask you just a 43 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: very soft question, no curveballs. Do you remember when we 44 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: first met? Not really, because so I made you were 45 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: you were not that impressurable to me. No, I remember 46 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: meeting you later. I remember in the when was I 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: doing the show and you were dating a friend of Chris's. 48 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: Did we ever meet? Then? Which show are you referring to? 49 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Um my hit television show on NBC. I knew I 50 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: had a bet that you would say suddenly, Susan within 51 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: the first five minutes of your podcast. That's what I 52 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: That's what I lead with. So I remember, we both 53 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: have a house in Long Island, and we both have 54 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: two girls that are basically the same age. So we 55 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: were once at a stoplight in Long Island and I 56 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: looked over and I saw you with these two little 57 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: girls in the back of your car. I had two 58 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: little girls in the back of my car, and I said, 59 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I don't care if she's an icon. 60 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Our kids should play together, because you don't often find 61 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: people that have kids the same age. So I rolled 62 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: down my window and I said, motion for you to 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: roll down your window, and you gave me that look 64 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: like I can't can I just go to the market 65 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: without fans A people who rolled down the windows for me, 66 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: but they had bottles in their mouth. So and I 67 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: said to you, hey, we have you know, daughters the 68 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: same age. You know, we should do a do a 69 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: play date or something. And you gave me a very 70 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: fake kind nod and then peeled off as soon as 71 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: a light turned green. So well, I didn't recognize you. 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know you to recognize me. I just thought 73 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: it was a mom to mom moment. But then I thought, 74 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: and I turned to both my children in the backseat, 75 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: and I said, celebrities are horrible people. Be friends with her, 76 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: but um, that's so funny. You don't remember that. But 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: then we met later and we just immediately clicked. But 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: then also, you were the first person that I went 79 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: out on a limb and called you and said I 80 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: want to work with you. I eat held me, I 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: emailed you, and you said I love your show so much. 82 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: It's a show that I created called Nightcap, and you 83 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: said I would love to be on it. And I 84 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: wrote a whole episode for you. And I had never 85 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: reached out to anyone on my own behalf before. I 86 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: always let agents do it. And all that, and so 87 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, cut, damn it. I 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: want to work with this person, and what do I 89 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: have to lose. I'm just going to ask her. And 90 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: it was a big lesson for you. It's a huge 91 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: lesson for me. Now you ask everybody for everything, No, 92 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: but you've gotten. The one thing I said was please, 93 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: I want to do this for you for myself, but 94 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: I want you to challenge me. And you were fantastic. 95 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. But I think that it was in a 96 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: way that was now what moment for me just because 97 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't working. It was frustrated, and it was the 98 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: first time I ever said, you know what, I'm not 99 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: going to rely on agents or whatever, and I'm just 100 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna put myself out there. And I'm lucky that you 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: responded the way you did. But I think it was 102 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: a big, big lesson for me to sort of be 103 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: humbled enough to say, I would love to do this 104 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: if you have me, and if you'll trust me, Listen, 105 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in putting yourself out there. I 106 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: was sitting in an office with a group of my 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: agents a few years ago and I said, so, what 108 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: what can we do? What's happening and they said, yeah, 109 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: there's just really nothing out there for women your age. 110 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, have you told Diane Lane and 111 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Laura Linny that, because I think they're they seemed to 112 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: be quite active. And they said, yeah, actress is in 113 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: your position. Yeah, there's nothing. There's really nothing. And I said, okay, 114 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: thank you, and I walked out the door and I thought, 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: I will not listen to that. Created they show nightcap 116 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: from it. All right, So I know that you've asked 117 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: some of your guests this, so I want to hear 118 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: your take. How would you introduce yourself? Um, I would 119 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: say I would start with I'm an actress. I would 120 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: start with I'm Brooke Shields and I'm an actress and mother. 121 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: It's it those and I've just added entrepreneur because I've 122 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: started my own company. I would probably say author as well, 123 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: but not a model. You know what, I would not 124 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: say a model. It's the weirdest thing because I was 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: a model, but because it was sort of one dimensional, 126 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: it didn't feel fully who I was. So when I 127 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: think about it, the things that define me the most 128 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: now are being an actress and being a mother. So 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: growing up, are there people that you envied. I didn't 130 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: really learn envy until later. I mean I was obsessed 131 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: with Renee Russo and I knew her in this uh seventies, 132 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: and I went to school around the corner from where 133 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: her apartment was, and my mom would let me before 134 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: picking me up, I could go do my homework at 135 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: her house. At her apartment older than you, right, she 136 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: yeah she is. She was in her twenties, I think. 137 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: And you go over and do your homework with an 138 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: older supermodel. Yeah, because my mom wouldn't. She didn't want 139 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: me to stay at school and she couldn't pick me 140 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: up until later, so Renee said come, no comment. She 141 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: had like a low table and I would sit at 142 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: her low coffee table and do my homework and she 143 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: had bowls of walnuts that she had cracked like it 144 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: was just she and I just looked. I thought she 145 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen. And 146 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: what was she doing when you were doing homework? She 147 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: was just cracking walnuts. Yes, she was just cracking walnuts. Um. 148 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: So she was kind of a babysitter. I mean kind 149 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: of a babysitter, but really not. It wasn't too regular, 150 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: but I remember doing that, and I just remember thinking 151 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: she was so beautiful, and I was so impressed that 152 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: she went to California to become a actor, so she 153 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: was kind of a role model. I wouldn't say you 154 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: envious of her. No, I didn't have envy, like I 155 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: didn't till you met me. Yeah, that's when it really 156 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: kicked in. Um. Envy didn't really kick in until after college, 157 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: when I wasn't getting any opportunity to act. Then it 158 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: became fear based envy. You know, what is so and 159 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: so doing what is so and so getting? You know, 160 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: just pure insecurity, pure insecurity, I mean, and like I 161 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: went to grade school with Laura Linney and she was 162 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: sort of embarking and taking off on this thespian like 163 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: she was really an actress. But you were going off 164 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: to model. So I'm just curious. How were your peers 165 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: reacting to you going off and all of a sudden 166 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: they're seeing you in commercials and magazines and on television 167 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: doing Calvin kleinads. I mean, that must have been surreal 168 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: for them. I mean, to hear her tell it, yes, 169 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, she said, there would be whispers of oh 170 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: my god, this is what Brooks going to California to 171 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: do a movie with Judge Burns, and you know, and 172 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: I didn't hear any of that. And when I came back, 173 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, we all picked up exactly where we left off. 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: So it was sort of seamless in a weird way. 175 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Nobody bullied me, nobody was mean, nobody thought it was 176 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: super cool. Whenever I had a photo shoot, my mom 177 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: made sure that friends came, so I wasn't an isolated kid. 178 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: I always had my actual friends from school around me. 179 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: The most famous kid in my class was g Gordon 180 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Lyddy's son, who's one of the guys that broke into Watergates. 181 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: So I know what it's like to have somebody famous 182 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: in your class and UM be envious of them, Yes, 183 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: very envious. Yeah I wish I wish I didn't get 184 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: into Watergate. Yeah I wish do you had to? Um? 185 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: I never had do you have you ever had envy? 186 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: Like as an actress, not as an actress. I never 187 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: felt that somebody else had my career. Know, it always 188 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: makes me laugh when somebody goes, you know, shelf I 189 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: first stole my career. I'm like, UM, And I always 190 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: felt like there was sort of room for everybody, So 191 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: there was never envy. I sort of thought, oh, well, 192 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: she got to go do this movie. But I went 193 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: to summer camp and I made friends with Kathy Horde 194 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: Bay and you know, so it's like, yeah, that that's 195 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, I missed out on that, but I got 196 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: to do this. Yeah. And my husband, George Stephanopolis from 197 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Good Morning America's ABC, uh, he always said to me, 198 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: you know, I remember I went to Network for the 199 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: show Friends, me and Lisa Kudrow, and I always say, yeah, 200 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: my life would have been really different had I gotten 201 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: that part. He wouldn't have been married to me. And 202 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: I go, that's true. I might have been married to 203 00:11:47,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt. But certainly happy with what happened. What's one 204 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: really poor choice that you're happy you made as a 205 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: young person. I have thousands, but I'm wondering what yours is. 206 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually happy everything that happened, even the negative. I mean, 207 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I think that it was, in hindsight, a bit of 208 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: a mistake for me to be so open about my virginity, 209 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: because it never left me alone. And this was when 210 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: you wrote a book about abstinence or that you were 211 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: still a virgin. There was a section in a book 212 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: that I wrote when I was in college. Actually I 213 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: ended up not penning it myself, and that was a 214 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: huge mistake because the publisher didn't want what I wrote. 215 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I wrote a very sort of in depth first chapter, 216 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and they didn't want it that way. They wanted a simple, 217 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: stupid book like I like leg warmers. And it was 218 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be what it's like to leave home for 219 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: the first time and go to college and be on 220 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: your own. And the book was called on your Own, 221 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: but in it there was one part of a chapter 222 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: where I discuss not abstinence per se, but owning your 223 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: choice if you don't feel comfortable. I would get a 224 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of fan mail from kids saying, Oh, my boyfriend's 225 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: pressuring me and I don't want to have sex. What 226 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: do I do. My narrative was you don't have to 227 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: do anything you don't want to, But that was pulled 228 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: out of the book and became that became. I became 229 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: talked about the most famous virgin in the world, and 230 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: you would go on talk shows and have to range 231 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: older men would ask you about your virginity, which was 232 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: very creepy, Which was very creepy, and it was all 233 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: but there was something to be in the line of 234 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: fire at such a young age. In that way, I 235 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: gained a resilience. It did sort of set me up 236 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: to be ready kind of for anything in this industry, 237 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: which can be difficult. So it begs the question, are 238 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: you still a virgin? Why had my kids buy IVF? 239 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think even after you lost your 240 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: virginity that was also in the news, Dean Kine. And 241 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: then you more than made up for it after right, 242 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: not nearly enough, but that's in a way waiting. I 243 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: have regret around that because there was a sense of 244 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: joy and freedom that I should have been able to 245 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: feel within a relationship that was so lovely and so 246 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: beautiful and sweet. Do you mean the privacy of it? 247 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: The privacy of it and the joy of it? I 248 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: lost out Like that's something I try to tell my girls. 249 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: How do you talk about sex with your girls? I 250 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: do age appropriate lectures, and then I feeled questions. You know, 251 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: I did tell them, there's no giving somebody your virginity. 252 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: You're giving anybody anything. Taking the virginity the virginity is 253 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: what makes me crazy. And so that's why when I 254 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: think back to when you lost your virginity or gained 255 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: your sex, whatever it is. To Dean Kane, it just 256 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: felt strangely put you know what I mean, Like, oh, 257 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: I guess Dean Kane, who ironically became Superman, got brookshields virginity, 258 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: Like what does that even mean? It's a surprise you 259 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: wear a does he wear a pin? Yeah? He's try 260 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: to change sort of how we talk about sex with girls. 261 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I found myself having conversations. You know, my 262 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: girls just tell me everything. I mean, it's amazing, well 263 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: least one of them does. And that openness that we've established, 264 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, started with you know, I never was taught 265 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: how to use the tampon. No, I mean, you know, 266 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: was terrifying and torturous. And I we never talked about 267 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: sex in my family. In fact, when I was in 268 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: my twenties, I was helping my mother decorate a Christmas 269 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: tree and I thought, you know, I'm twenty one. I'm 270 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: going to ask my mother question. And I said, you know, mom, 271 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: how can we never talked about masturbation? And all of 272 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: a sudden an ornament fell and I thought, oh my god, 273 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: I've done it now, I've just imploded our relationship. And 274 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: she turned to me and she goes, we never talked 275 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: about masturbation because it's dirty and self indulgent. Okay, that's 276 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: why I've never touched myself right there, thank you. So 277 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: I made a choice when as a mother, to be 278 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: a lot more open about it. I'm surprised at myself 279 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: in the way I'm mothering to my girls now, because 280 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I it's not a reaction to the way my mother was, 281 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: but I'm so I'm okay with it for them, whereas 282 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't okay with it for yourself. Right, That's the 283 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: difference that to me is so interesting. Yeah, alright, So 284 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: this show is obviously called now what Now? Am I 285 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: saying it right? Or now what? Now what? Now? I'm 286 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: curious what was your now what moment in your twenties 287 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: and then what was your now what moment in your ties? 288 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: I had a now what moment in my twenties when 289 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: I I didn't get into a dance company and I 290 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: had really, you know, tried very hard. I assumed I 291 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: would make it, but it was so embarrassing to me 292 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: to be a famous person right and go out for this, 293 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: really put myself out there and not be good enough. 294 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: And I just thought oh my god. Maybe it's true. 295 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. Maybe I don't. I'm not good. And 296 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: that summer I took four and five dance classes a 297 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: day and I got back in freshman week, I tried 298 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: out for all of the different things again and I 299 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: got into So, yeah, you have like a real workhorse sensibility. Okay, 300 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: So this is a difference between us. You don't get 301 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: into a dance company and you go, well, I'm just 302 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take five dance classes a day. I'm gonna 303 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: get better. I'm gonna study and work hard. If I 304 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: didn't get into a dance company, I would go, well, 305 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: that's fine, I'm going to start my own. We're not 306 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: going to be as good stop my own, which is 307 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: a very different way of now you know what I mean. 308 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: But I sort of like your version better because what 309 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: you're taking it into your own hands, whereas I'm still 310 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: going to put myself in that position for them to 311 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: pick me or not. But to answer this one, my 312 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: in my thirties, my now what moment was when after 313 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I VF, when I lost that first pregnancy. I had 314 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: never felt such loss before, I had never felt such failure, 315 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: and to have to lose the child to feel faulty. 316 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: That was a very obliterating now what moment because I thought, oh, well, 317 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: you've had a great life, you know you, but you 318 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: don't deserve to do the most normal thing that So 319 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: what did you do? Did you go to the supermarket 320 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: and steal a baby? Yes? I went to the park 321 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: and just took one. She had to. It was a twin. 322 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: What does she need to for? They look the same 323 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: on our socialist world, we each we each get one. 324 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: It really, it's really fair. Um. I thought, I'm gonna, 325 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna win if I'm gonna beat the system. 326 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: And you did. I did. I ripped the estrogen patch 327 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: off my body and bled and I was like, what 328 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: when can I start? Next Wednesday? Next cycle? Ones? And 329 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: it took seven more cycles. Wow? What was your now 330 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: what moment? From your twenties? Um? I was living in 331 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I was in a comedy group called the Groundlings. 332 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I had come out one night with another actor and 333 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: we were in a very dark parking lot discussing rehearsal 334 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: schedules and we were attacked by a gang and the 335 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: gang beat us up a little bit. They pushed me 336 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: down on my hands in the back of the car, 337 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: and they were lining up behind me and taking my 338 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: pants off, and I ran out to the street screaming, 339 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: and two of them chased me and didn't catch me. 340 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: I mean, that was pure adrenaline on my part. And 341 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: I turned around and I saw my friend Mark being 342 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: stabbed in the chest. But he was a Midwestern boys, 343 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: so he had a jean jacket with that thick fleece 344 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: the interior that caught the blades. And he ended up 345 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: going to the hospital and he had surgery, and I 346 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: ended up stopping people. The gang jumped in my car, 347 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: which was like some beat up Volvo, and drove away. 348 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: And I remember being at the hospital and thinking I'm 349 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: out of here, like I'm leaving Los Angeles. I'm going 350 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: back to, you know, the comfort of my home. I 351 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: want my mommy. And after a few days and a 352 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: little bit of trauma therapy, and I realized, yes, this happened, 353 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: this could have happened anywhere. I'm not going to run 354 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: away from a life that I'm very consciously pursuing, you know, 355 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: because of this, And so I stayed in Los Angeles. 356 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Believe me, since that happened to me. I'm very aware 357 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: of my surroundings at all times, but you know that 358 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: was a moment where I could have just said this, 359 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: this is too much, this is a sign, this is 360 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: too much. Even my mother was like back east and 361 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I didn't do you think you had now what moments 362 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: as a child? I had it now at moment probably 363 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: every single day of my childhood. I mean I can 364 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: tell you things like my parents were divorced when I 365 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: was one, but both my parents remarried. I would go 366 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: see my father on the weekends and he was remarried, 367 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: and she would tell me, I don't want you here. 368 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe I married somebody that already had kids. 369 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: She would heat up a TV dinner and put me 370 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: in front of Bob Newhart and Mary Tyler more. And 371 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: so I had now at my mots of like, oh, 372 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm completely unloved, nobody wants me around. What am I 373 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: going to do? I have an idea I'll perform. So 374 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: my now what moments did turn into ambitions and how 375 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: can I change this? How can I make it better? 376 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of now what moments that were 377 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: painful and hard, but there's a lot of now at moments, 378 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: certainly my childhood that made me who I am today. 379 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: So what was your thirties? One my now in the 380 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: thirties was I had a boyfriend for eight years and 381 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: we were engaged to be married, and he really he 382 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: kept wanting me to set a date, set a date, 383 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: and I realized, I don't think we should get married. 384 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: We did not have a very physical sexual relationship. We 385 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: were kind of best friends. We played scrabble and watched Letterman. 386 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: And I left the relationship and it was very, very 387 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: scary for me, because you know, we had built a 388 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: life together. I was more dependent on him emotionally and financially. 389 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: And I left and sort of went into the abyss 390 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: of not knowing can I pay my rent? Why did 391 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: you know you needed to leave? Because I knew that 392 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: I couldn't marry somebody that I did not have a 393 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: sexual relationship with, because people I knew that were married 394 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: at that point said if you're not having sex now 395 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: before you're married, forget it. And it just I knew it. 396 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: I intuitively knew it. And I had to be alone 397 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: for a while and sit in all the discomfort of 398 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: where you depressed. Yeah, I was really depressed and I 399 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: had a big now what now what? Now I'm an 400 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: actress and a writer with a very unreliable income. I'm 401 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: living in a crappy apartment by myself. I'll probably never 402 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: get married again. I'll probably never have kids again. And 403 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I had to really sit in a very scary place 404 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. And I ended up. I was 405 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: work more. I wrote a bunch of movies. I finally 406 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: afforded my first house, and I was I felt very 407 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: resilient and independent. I had a lemon try and then 408 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: I met my husband, George, and I had to sell 409 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: my house in l A. I moved to New York. 410 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: But I did have an excellent amount of time where 411 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: I was an independent woman. And I'll tell you, when 412 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: you have that experience, you know, I'll always feel like, 413 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, God forbid something happens, I will be okay. 414 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: I've proven it to myself. But that's a huge lesson 415 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: to teach your girls. I can identify with that. When 416 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: I divorced my first husband, I had been so absorbed 417 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: into his world. His world was bigger than mine, it 418 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: was richer than mine. I basically went from my mother 419 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: to his world and his control. You married a famous 420 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 1: tennis player named Andrea Andrea, and I remember thinking, this 421 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: is the most dangerous thing that you've you're ever going 422 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 1: to do. But I asked myself the question, are you 423 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: willing to be alone? And I knew I would rather 424 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: be alone than continue under this umbrella, which by the way, 425 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: was extremely safe, but you also got to hide behind 426 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: somebody completely was famous and not have it be all 427 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: about you. And the thing is he Why he was 428 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: right for me in the beginning was I felt safe. 429 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: I felt really taken care of. I felt that I 430 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: could be smaller. It wasn't all about Brookshields. He was 431 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: such a huge, huge, famous, number one in the world. 432 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean everything around him was so big that I 433 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: got to and you watch whenever we were walking. I 434 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: was always staggered behind him a little bit, and I 435 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: loved it. But then you became too small, so you 436 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: had to get out of it. I became too small. 437 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: And also I knew it wasn't right because the physical 438 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: part of the relationship was not there. I did not 439 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: feel good about myself. I didn't feel celebrated physically, and 440 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: having been a virgin forever and having had such a 441 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: fraud relationship with sexuality, to have this kind of sort 442 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: of platonic almost relationship. It was fine. It worked, and 443 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: we had fun. We laughed, we we were like little 444 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: kids together. We sort of got to live a childhood 445 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: in a weird way, like eating candy and you know, 446 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: being irresponsible, and that doesn't sustain an adult relationship, that's 447 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: the thing. And I knew that he would be a 448 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: good father for someone else's children, but I was getting 449 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: smaller and smaller and there wasn't room for both of us. 450 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: And the extremes of living with someone I didn't know 451 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: he was addicted to crystal meth then, but to live 452 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: in such extremes with an addict, it was exhausting to me. 453 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: We had already done that your whole life with your mother, right, 454 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: all right, I want to have a little fun, and 455 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: I want to play a game called never Have I Ever, 456 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: which I don't even I think you're gonna lose this 457 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: because I think I don't, But um, we're gonna play 458 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: Never Have I Ever? And then if you want to 459 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: get more down and dirty, I'm going to play a 460 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: game with you called Bad Choices on my podcast, which 461 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: will get even dirtier. So that's my little tease to go, 462 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Listen to go, ask Alli when Brooke and Eye play 463 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: bad choices. But right now we're gonna play never have 464 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I ever? So I'm gonna ask you a question and 465 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna give me a pretty short answer. Okay, got 466 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: it ready? You ever ghosted someone? I don't know what 467 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: constitutes ghosting. You don't speak to somebody, you don't return 468 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: their emails or their texts. I don't think. I think 469 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm such a rule follower that I've always just in 470 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: some way had the last word to say, like I'm 471 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: just so sorry. I'm just you know, really busy and 472 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of put my give myself an out. All right, 473 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: this is a good one. Have you ever had sex 474 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: with a coworker? I have had sex with a coworker. Yes, 475 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: who your husband, Chris hen She I've had sex with 476 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: Christmas when you were working together. Now, we weren't working 477 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: together with the Christmas, the White House, Christmas, No, no, no, 478 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: I was doing a movie. Oh did you have sex? 479 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: I had sex with an actor in the co star. 480 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean it was an ensemble. Okay, you don't have 481 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: to say Christoph Brackens. All right. Have you ever gone 482 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: on a blind date? I have never gone on in 483 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: a blind date. I can't go on. You can't go blind. 484 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: Although I went on a blind date with my husband, 485 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: George Stephanopolis, and I knew exactly who he was, but 486 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: he had no idea who I was, so it was 487 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: blind for him but not for me. Yeah. Have you 488 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: ever caught an ex cheating? Oh? God, God, I gotta 489 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: get comfortable. This is going to be a three hour 490 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: I did not walk in on an ex cheating, but 491 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: I was dating an actor and he said he had 492 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: to go to l A because his house was flooded, 493 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: and three days later when I called him, we were engaged. 494 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: Three days later when I called him, a girl answered 495 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: the phone. And then the inquirer called me and said 496 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: that he had been seen at a restaurant with another actress. 497 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: If we google this, will we get the names? Um, no, 498 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to say that. It's just it's just 499 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: a fun Where's Waldo gave game? Yeah? He yeah, no, 500 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: I was. The inquirer called me and and I was like, 501 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: you better ask him, and I was just that's how 502 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: you found out that callow? All right? These were very 503 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: rated PG questions and so I'm not that interesting that 504 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: you are interesting, which is why on Go ask Ali 505 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: We're going to play Bad Choices because we just crazed 506 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: the surface of what kind of Shenanigan's you've been up with? 507 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: You dirty hole? Um. Thank you for having me interview you. 508 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. This was a first for us to do 509 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: it with the first for us. But you know what, 510 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I know you so well. I didn't 511 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: learn anything new you didn't know. That's why I think 512 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: I want to play this game with you. I think 513 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I just I know you too much. You do know 514 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: me too much. That was the amazing Ali Wentworth And 515 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: if you want to hear more from her and hear 516 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: us play the game Bad Choices, listen to her podcast 517 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Go Ask Ali this Thursday. Here's a preview. Do you 518 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: think you would give the best lap dance in the room. 519 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna say yes, yes, because I worked really hard 520 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: to be a good dancer when I was at Princeton. No, 521 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: you won't want to miss it now. What is produced 522 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: by the wonderful Julia Weaver with help from Darby Masters. 523 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Christina Everett. The show is mixed 524 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: by Bahid Fraser and Christian Bowman. A special thanks to 525 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: Nicki E. Tor and Will Pearson. 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