1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of 3 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for rolling 4 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: with us. Going again on a day with a lot 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: of news, a lot of things to discuss, so much 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: to cover here. First off, as you know, Clay and 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: I get fired off about this. It looks like Elon's 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: bid may in fact go through for Twitter. That was 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: the reporting as of this morning. Clay is very fired 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: up about this. Elon is perhaps going to change the 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: nature of free speech in this country. So from a 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: tech standpoint in Elon, we trust right now. From a 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: tech first Amendment and free speech culture perspective, we've also 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: got the continued fighting, even after it's now the parental 15 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: rights law in the state of Florida. Was it the 16 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: right move to pull Disney's status, Even some alleged conservatives 17 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: pushing back and forth on this, saying, oh no, we 18 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: should not fight fire with fire, we should be the 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: principal side. We'll discuss more on that. Because it turns 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: out in the textbooks, including math textbooks, there are some 21 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: funky stuff, There are some strange things, and the desantist 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: camp is showing the receipts on that, showing the evidence. 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. Social emotional learning in the context 24 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: of multiplication tables or basic fractions seems unnecessary and a 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: math textbook, doesn't it. That's what's going on, and a 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of places. Plus the big gas and oil company 27 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: XON says LGBTQ and BLM flags are prohibited from being 28 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: flown on office flagpoles that just came out of the weekend. 29 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: So speaking of fighting back against wokeness and the left 30 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: seizure of the commanding heights of corporate America, you're starting 31 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: to see Disney Xon, You're starting to see that this 32 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: fight is already having some consequences. Meanwhile, Clay One, this 33 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: one I found particularly interesting. By the way, we also 34 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: have we have doctor doctor Oz, the would be a 35 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Republican senator if he wins the primary and the general 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: of course in Pennsylvania, joining us in the third hour 37 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: of the program and second hour of the program, sitting 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Senator although he's probably standing and moving around, he's doing 39 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: a press conference soon, Sitting Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky 40 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: to talk to us about Fauci masks. All the rest 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: of it. McClay, It does seem that the timing on 42 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: this is all fortuitous with regard to Twitter, because just 43 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: before the news broke this morning that maybe Elon's bid 44 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: is going to go through, Twitter says they will no 45 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: longer allow ad vertisers who deny the scientific consensus on 46 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: climate change, which is a policy that Google already has. 47 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: By the way, these people are so lacking in self 48 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: awareness and an understanding of irony. It seems that they 49 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: haven't even gone back to look at what was the 50 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: scientific consensus a year ago on how many shots you 51 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: would need and how effective they'd be at stopping the spread. 52 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: Consensus is not science, certainly on climate Clay. It's the 53 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: exact opposite of science. You're supposed to challenge everything. That's 54 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: the entire purpose of the scientific method that they used 55 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: to teach back in school, where you come up with 56 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: a thesis and then if you can prove the thesis, 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: you've got a theory. But everything has to be questioned. 58 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: And if there's ever been a time to question science, 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: I would think it would be in the past couple 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: of years, because some of the most aggressive scientists out 61 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: there were the ones who were telling us we had 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: to shut down our beaches because of COVID. We had 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: to shut down our hiking trails. We had to fill 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: in sand in the skate parks. We add to take 65 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: the rims off basketball nets, basketball hoops. All of this 66 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: was what the science dictated, and if you questioned any 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: of it, you weren't allowed to have your voice propagated 68 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: in an aggressive manner thanks to the algorithms at play 69 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: and buck this Twitter story to me, if Elon Musk 70 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: is able to buy Twitter, much as Fox News is 71 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: one of the few places out there in television that's 72 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: willing to stand athwart whatever the mainstream perspective is on 73 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: many different news stories and give us a perspective that 74 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: is somewhat different than what CNN or MSNBC would be providing. 75 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: There isn't so far a big tech company that is 76 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: not allied with the far left in this country, And 77 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: so Elon Musk if he's able to succeed, and as 78 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: we speak right now, there seems to be increasing optimism 79 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: that that is going to occur. The stock price of Twitter, 80 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: which is often a sign of whether or not a 81 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: deal might get done, is up near fifty one dollars 82 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: to share Elon Musk has offered fifty four twenty. That's 83 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: starting to suggest that the people out there who own 84 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: this stock, and I'm one of them, are starting to 85 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: acquiesce to Elon Musk making this purchase. And I believe 86 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: that Elon can be for free speech, one of the 87 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: biggest purveyors of a true marketplace of ideas that this 88 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: country has ever been if he's able to buy Twitter 89 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: and implement the policies that he has said he would 90 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: like to. Did you see the fascinating exchange, Clay? I'm 91 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: sure you did. Clay is if Twitter is the matrix, 92 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Clay is Neo or Morpheus. He's on Twitter like all 93 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: the time, like flying around. But it was someone else 94 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: leaked text messages of Elon Musk and Bill Gates. Yea 95 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: where Bill Gates said, hey, can you can you give 96 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: me some money for the Bill and Melinda Gates or 97 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: is it now just the Bill Gates Initiative? I think 98 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: there was a little split there Climate initiative, and Elon responded, 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: are you still short, Tesla? What was it? Five hundred 100 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: million dollars? Have you shorted bet against my stock? Five 101 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars? And Bill Gates said yes, and this 102 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: is all this was all made public. I mean, this 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: is all out there flying around on Twitter, and Elon says, 104 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm not going to donate money to 105 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: you because you're un serious about climate change. If you're 106 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: trying to hurt the company that's doing more than any 107 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: other on the planet to address climate change, now put 108 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: this aside for a second. I don't actually believe the 109 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: climate change is an imminent threat or a problem in 110 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. I think that we're adapting 111 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: as we've always adapted over time, the new technology. That 112 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: is what Tesla and Elon and I'm sure some other 113 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: companies that haven't been as magnificently successful so far are 114 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: actually doing. When you have a guy who is running 115 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: a company that is accomplishing so much in the face 116 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: of such incredible odds and opposition, who is now going 117 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: to focus his understanding and attention on a social media 118 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: platform that does more to mimic the town square of 119 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: hundreds of years ago, when all you had was maybe 120 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: one printing press in the town, right, I mean, the 121 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: basis of information sharing for so many people who work 122 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: in media is Twitter, and then that filters out into 123 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the website that everyone reads and the podcast everyone listens to. Clay, 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: he could do a lot more than just make it 125 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: a free speech platform. He could just make it much 126 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: better as a technology and as a system. Look, Elon 127 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Musk managed to put spaceships into into space better than NASA, 128 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: who had a fifty or sixty year advanced start on him. 129 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: He has come in and completely revolutionized how we power cars. 130 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: I think he can probably figure out how to work 131 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Twitter in a more effective manner. And one of the 132 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: things he said, and I think this is probably true 133 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: because it's the essence of non content based discrimination. He said, 134 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: the ten percent on the far left and the ten 135 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: percent on the far right should be equally angry at him. 136 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: If that occurs, then he's doing his job. Well, what's 137 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: going on right now? Buck? And I think for people 138 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: out there who don't use social media, we sometimes have 139 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: to give sort of a tutorial on why it matters. 140 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Make no mistake about what the far left wing Blue 141 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: checkmark Brigade is upset about, Buck. They're upset because the 142 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: rigged game that has been in their favor is potentially 143 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: going to be ended, and they're going to have to 144 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: really compete in the marketplace of ideas. They are upset 145 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: because Twitter has been favoring them, And you said, I 146 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: think a couple of weeks ago, what would be so 147 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: interesting about this purchase would be if Elon Musk publicized 148 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: all of the deans, all of the inner dirty laundry, 149 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: and it pertains to how they were favoring certain people, 150 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: how they were favoring certain groups at the expense of 151 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: the true market place of ideas. That's what the left 152 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: wing Blue checkmark brigade is so afraid of that their 153 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: rig system is going to disappear and they're going to 154 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: have to compete on an even playing field. Right, it 155 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: goes after not only their control, but the only thing 156 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: that I think you could argue the Democrat left cares 157 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: about more than control when we're talking about a media 158 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: context is their egos. Yeah, a lot of people think, oh, 159 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm I just have great ideas and I'm so smart 160 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: and I've got this a lot it's like, well, it 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: doesn't exist anywhere else. It really only seems to be 162 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: that some of them have a pretty high number relative 163 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: to their general notoriety when it comes to Twitter, and 164 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: they don't want people to know Oh, it turns out 165 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: that the people who disagree with me in this case, conservatives, 166 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: but on a whole range of issues. I'm sure this 167 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: will be the case, actually have much higher engagement, much more, 168 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: much more support from actual human beings instead of a 169 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: system that is I mean, effectively, my friends, what we 170 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: could find out here. Imagine And I'm just tell you this. 171 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: It's going on on Facebook, it's already happening on Google two, 172 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: Google News, and what pops up and what you see 173 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: when you do search, and there's so many ways the 174 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: system is rigged. The only way that this gets better 175 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: is if people have a full understanding of that. And 176 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: it affects in so many ways. Everybody listening is I 177 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: don't care if you're if you're kicking it right now, 178 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, off the grid listening to us on an 179 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: old school radio, every product you're going to buy when 180 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: you go to the store, every time you're interacting with uh, 181 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, with with people around you. Um, there's a 182 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: tremendous influence that these tech giants have on what has bought, 183 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: what has sold, what has thought, what has shared? All 184 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: of it, and so beginning to chip away at this point, 185 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: why why don't even the left up they don't. They 186 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: don't complain as much. Remember it used to be Oh, 187 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: but you know, these these upstart channels and these digital 188 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: channels that are coming, and it's it's hurting our ability 189 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: to tell the American people the truth from ABC and 190 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: CBS and all this stuff. Clay, they re established the 191 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: old information, the old information dominance sphere that they had. 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: They just did it through the digital realm instead of 193 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: the old school legacy, you know, media, instead of having 194 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: the old transistors and the you know, the stuff that 195 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: you're seeing on cable, all of it. Yeah, And again 196 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: that's why I think it's so significant even for people 197 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: who aren't on social media, because if you have a 198 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: true marketplace of ideas on Twitter, you also then have 199 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: a marketplace of ideas on potentially YouTube or Google or 200 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: Facebook or Apple, these places that have all in collusion. Again, 201 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: remember how quickly everyone banned Donald Trump from social media platforms. 202 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: What happens when we start to go in the opposite direction. 203 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: When you have a situation where Alex Berenson is allowed 204 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: back on Twitter, when the Babylon b is allowed back, 205 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: and Twitter potentially could allow Donald Trump back, even though 206 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: he has said that maybe he doesn't want to come back. 207 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: I got to ask you this because I was asked 208 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: this and I did not have a ready answer. You 209 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: and I would have a lot of fun just because 210 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: Trump on Twitter is very entertaining, and I mean he 211 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: used to retweet us for different things, and there's nothing 212 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,359 Speaker 1: like a Trump retweet to all of a sudden, see 213 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: some third tier actor that you saw in a movie 214 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two, but somehow has a blue check 215 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: is telling you to go jump off a bridge. You're like, 216 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: what did I do to the guy who played like 217 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: fourth cowboy in Young Guns three or whatever? You know, 218 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, You're like, wait, what, that's because 219 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump retweeted you and he has, you know, eighty 220 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: million or had eighty million followers something like that. Is 221 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: it better for Trump's political aspirations to come back and 222 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: run again and win again, to be on Twitter or not? 223 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: I will say this. I did not. I do not 224 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: have an obvious answer. I mean, maybe you could push 225 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: me into an answer. I look at his numbers right now, 226 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: he's not on Twitter, and his numbers keep going up. 227 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about with the Bay, so I'm talking 228 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: with the Independence with the soccer moms, with the people 229 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: he needs to win. What do you think? That's a 230 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: perfect tease for me to tell you exactly what I 231 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: think about whether Donald Trump should be back on Twitter 232 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: when we come back in this next segment. But first, 233 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: what have you got for us? 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A great song. 258 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: They're bringing us back lit my own worst enemy. Appreciate 259 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: always getting taken back to the the nineteen ninety nine, which 260 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: may have been the greatest year in American history, by 261 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: the way, maybe world history. Buck. I mean, it's up there, 262 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: late nineties. It's tough to beat. The song isn't party 263 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: like it's nineteen seventy nine, it's party like nineteen ninety nine. 264 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so we went to break talking about 265 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: whether so Elon Musk should update you in the last 266 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: few minutes, has tweeted as follows, I hope that even 267 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: my worst critics remain on Twitter, because that is what 268 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: free speech means. Now. Obviously, if you follow Elon Musk. 269 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: It can be a bit like trying to translate Sanskrit 270 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: or whatever from one moment to the next. He oftentimes 271 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: tweets emotional things, lyrical things. But this is a tweet 272 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: that suggests that he is in fact buying Twitter, because 273 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: why would they leave otherwise? So that would suggest that 274 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: he is in fact going to buy Twitter. And Buck asked, 275 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great debate and it's going 276 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: to be a huge discussion. What does this mean for 277 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's Twitter account? And would Trump being back on 278 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: Twitter be a good thing? Here's my answer. I think 279 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Trump benefits by being not on Twitter. Now, let me 280 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: explain why. To me, Buck, twenty twenty four should be 281 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: a referendum on Joe Biden's lures on the Democratic Parties failures, 282 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: because they will have been in power for four years 283 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: and the question will be did Joe Biden, especially if 284 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: he runs and or the Democrats do a good job 285 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: in office? And I think overwhelmingly the American public is 286 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: going to say no, they did not. My concern with 287 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Trump is Trump makes everything about him, and that can 288 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: be good or bad. And my concern is if he's 289 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter, all of a sudden, all of the people 290 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: who were obsessed with Trump Trump derangement syndrome is a 291 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: real thing, are going to have him as the primary 292 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: story as opposed to democratic failure. Trump was the primary 293 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: story in twenty twenty because he was the incumbent president. 294 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, there was no incumbent president when he 295 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: ran against Hillary. So in twenty twenty four, Buck, it 296 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: has to be did the Democrats do a good job 297 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: no matter who the Republican candidate is? And I think 298 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: if Trump is tweeting every moment, the people who are 299 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: most bothered by that, and I'm not I love it, 300 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: you love it, But suburban women, the people who are 301 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: swing voters, they're gonna get upset over Trump on Twitter. 302 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: So I think he actually benefits by being off. I 303 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: remember I was getting text messages from people I hadn't 304 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: heard from in like fifteen years. We're saying, dude, open 305 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: your phone, because you know Trump would go on these 306 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: tweet tears. I think one day, one more in Clay, 307 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: he retweeted me six or seven times in a row, 308 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: six or seven different things, just like firing it everywhere, 309 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the crazies come after you, 310 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: the supporters, the haters, the ever. So it's a lot 311 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: of fun for us immediate world. I've got to say 312 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: I agree with your assessment that for Trump's purposes, if 313 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Eglon takes Twitter and it's a free and open platform, 314 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: trump focusing, yes, he should have some Twitter presence, as in, 315 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: you know, the campaign and everything else. It should be 316 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: allowed on Twitter. But Trump focusing on other things, as 317 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: in policy speeches. The mission might actually be a better 318 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: thing in the long room, but for the midterms. It 319 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: would be for the midterms. I think we could bring 320 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: it back and it'd be fun. And by the way, 321 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: people like you and I can be zealous advocates for 322 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: Trump or whoever. The twenty twenty four nominee is more 323 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: so in an even universe where every marketplace is allowed 324 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: to compete. 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Right now, we're gonna be talking to 343 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: the Senator about the situation of the mask mandate, that wonderful, phenomenal, 344 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: brilliant and talented and lovely judge in Florida who had 345 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: the great ruling. As you can tell, I'm very excited 346 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: about this ruling on masks on planes. I'm gonna be 347 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: flying this weekend unmasked on my plane, which I'm very excited. 348 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited Thursday, I'm gonna be on the road to Florida. 349 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: I'm taking my kids, a couple of them. I'll be 350 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: out for a couple of days. But they've got a 351 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: competition down in Orlando and we're gonna go to Universal Studios. 352 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to just like going through TSA and 353 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: not having to have a mask on, going through all 354 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: the security and not having to have people say, sort, 355 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: pull your mask all the way up. Like, I'm just 356 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: ecstatic about that. I know the TSA agents are too. Actually, yeah, 357 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: every emotionally stable person is just going to be walking 358 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: around either at their job or traveling in a better 359 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: mood as a result. Yes, every person who can actually 360 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: sort of see what's going on, I think has a 361 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: recognition of how important this is, what a big deal 362 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: this is for just day to day normalcy. I've said 363 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: this all along. Until the mask come off, We're not 364 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: normal until the mask come off and we're done. We're not. 365 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about ah, but we're done 366 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: with it. Nope, Nope, nope. So anyway, we'll talk more 367 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: about that, because there was a good, uh, it was 368 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: a good exchange on the Bill marsh over the weekend. 369 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: We'll share with everybody with Mary Katherine Ham, great lady, 370 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: who was Who's on that panel with Bill Maher who 371 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: you know Bill is. Sometimes sometimes he nails it. Sometimes 372 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: he's a doctor Nairo Live. It really depends, It really 373 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: depends on what the issue. Don't talk to me about 374 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: climate change, Clay. He'll tell you got to sell that, 375 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: sell that house and the panhandle because the seas are 376 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: gonna rise. And tells you what I am concerned. If 377 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm concerned about climate change at all, I'm building a 378 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: house basically on the beach in Florida. Obamacare is so 379 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: much about climate change, but he does not seem willing 380 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: to sell his twenty million dollar Martha's Vineyard mansion on 381 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the ocean at a substantial discount right now. And I 382 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: just I don't get it, Like why won Obama just 383 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: give it pennies on the dollar. Man, it's a good deal. 384 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: The seas are gonna rise, you told us. I think 385 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: he's got beachfront property in Massachusetts and in Hawaii right now, 386 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: right yeah, he has literally boats as far as you 387 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: can basically go in both directions of the country. He's 388 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: got beach front property and by the way, so do 389 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: an awful lot of doctrinaire climate change people who are 390 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: telling us how much the world is going to change. 391 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: It's amazing how many of them also still have beach 392 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: front problem. You know those you know that stretch right 393 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: above La, right on the beach. I think it's before 394 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: where you technically get to Malibu or I'm not an 395 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: LA expert, you've spent a lot of time. I spent 396 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: some time there, But there are those houses that are 397 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: right on the beach. You know, there's all stretched the right. 398 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: I bet if you walked up and down and you 399 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: ask the owners of those properties, do you think climate 400 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: change is an existential and imminent threat? Over ninety five 401 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: percent of them would say absolutely yes over and you 402 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: look at them, you'd say, but your house is actually 403 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: literally on the sand. You recognize that, right, you're not 404 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: even because I mean when I say on the beach, folks, 405 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean they're on the beach, they're right there. I 406 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: mean you feel like the waves could be hitting the 407 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: back porch anyway. Climate change obviously, and by the way, 408 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: those properties are skyrocketing and value. It's not just them either. 409 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: The market is continuing to say, oh my goodness, this 410 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: is a great investment. Yeah, Which it's almost like people 411 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: do different things with their money than they want to 412 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: put on social media, so they get a lot of 413 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: likes and you're so stunning and brave. Speaking of social 414 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: media communication, I don't know that was not I didn't 415 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: really stick the landing on that one. That was a 416 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: little wobbly. Speaking of what the Libs are trying to 417 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: do right now, there are some who recognize that Democrats 418 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: are going to need a radically different strategy in the midterms, 419 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: a radically different strategy in the next election. Here is, 420 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: for example, Alishapeth Warren, Elizabeth Warren. She's telling everybody you've 421 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: got to be worried unless the Democrats deliver on their promises. 422 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: There is so much we can do, and if we 423 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: do it over the next two hundred days, we're going 424 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: to be in fine shape. This is what anocracy is about. 425 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: Take it to the people what we've done. But we 426 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: need to get the work done. And if you don't, 427 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: will you lose control of Congress. Yeah? I think we're 428 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: going to be in real trouble if we don't get 429 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: up and deliver. Then I believe that Democrats are going 430 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: to lose. Democrats win when they do when they work 431 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: on behalf of working people. And we can't just rest 432 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: on what we've already done. We need to be fighting 433 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: going for all right, all right, so we get the idea, Clay, 434 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: she's living in a fantasy land. There's nothing they're going 435 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: to deliver on for people going forward. And I think 436 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: the best evidence of this that we have is the 437 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: big dump right now. You can see it. Instead of 438 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: doing things that are better for the American people. CNN exclusive. 439 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to note not a CNN Plus exclusive Mark 440 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: Meadows two thousand, three hundred and nineteen text messages of 441 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Trump's reveal. Rather Trump's inner circle communications before and after 442 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: January six Their plan to hold as many seats in 443 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: the Senate and the House as they can, Clay, is 444 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: to just pound the drum on January sixth as loud 445 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: as they can. That's the whole plan. Well, and it 446 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't work in the mid terms because Trump is 447 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: not going to be on the ballot. And that clip 448 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: you just played of Elizabeth Warren to me is indicative 449 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: of what I think might be the actual Democrat plan, 450 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: but not because she's saying that they're going to improve 451 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: their status I think what Democrats may end up doing, 452 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: and I hope they're not going to be able to 453 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: do it because of Kirsten Cinema, because of Joe Manchin 454 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: and other Democrats senators who are in toss up states 455 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: that are worried about reelection. But my concern is that 456 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: they're just going to try to ram through a ton 457 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: of different left wing policies, not because they're necessarily trying 458 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: to help their overall status in the midterms, but because 459 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: they recognize that they're going to lose the House, they 460 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: may well lose the Senate, and then they won't be 461 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: able to pass anything for two years, the final two 462 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: years of the Biden administration, and so they are going 463 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: to and I think on some level, Buck, they're still 464 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: terrified of Trump and the looming threat that he, in 465 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: their mind, brings to bear in twenty twenty four, and 466 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: so they keep hoping that somehow the American public is 467 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: going to care about January six. Now on these text messages, 468 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a certain sellacious interest, Buck, where it's like, Oh, 469 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: I wonder what somebody was saying on their private phone 470 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: in their text messages. With all of these other political figures. 471 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know that there's very much substance there. 472 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: I think if there were some sort of massive issue, 473 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: they would have already used it to their advantage. Can 474 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: we just be very clear about what is happening here though? 475 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Everybody they have seized the now it is it is 476 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: technically illegal because Congress does have these subpoena powers. It 477 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: is not ethical. This is a political smear. But notice 478 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: that they're willing to use this power in this way 479 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: to seize private citizens phone records. Which is what they 480 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Which is I mean, you can say, oh, but he's 481 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: he's a you know, the the chief of staff. Yeah, 482 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: but everybody who's communicated with him. They've got this list 483 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: up on CNN Juliani, Sean Hannity, you know, friends of 484 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: ours from from the network at Fox. From here, They've 485 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: got all these different names, Republican Party leaders, Jim Jordan 486 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: of Ohio, Mobrooks of Alabama, Marjorie Taylor Green. They're just 487 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: trying to embarrass people. There's no criminality here. They're pretending 488 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: they think the insurrection might have had a criminal nexus 489 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: of some kind. The people that broke the law that 490 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: day were people who were there and you know, weren't 491 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: supposed to be, which is kind of a you know, 492 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: is that really a big deal. But the people that 493 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: attacked cops, you can't do that. People that broke property 494 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: or destroyed property can't do that. I would know that 495 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: they're being treated much more harshly than those who are 496 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: trying to destroy public property and the statues and all 497 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: the leftist riots that were going on all summer. I've 498 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: never forgotten that. I will not forget that. But Clay, 499 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: they're just you. This is just dirty, bare knuckle politics. 500 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your text messages and blast them out 501 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: to CNN to try to embarrass people who are important 502 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: to right, that's all this is. Also according to Twitter 503 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: zone policies, they shouldn't allow this to be covered on Twitter, right, 504 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: because it's leaked information that is not otherwise public. Right. 505 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: So somebody on the January sixth committee, a Democrat operative, 506 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: a Democrat assistant to a Republican, sorry, a Democrat, leaked 507 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: this all to CNN, and the goal is to embarrass 508 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Republicans who were doing what texting with the sitting chief 509 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: of staff. I mean, it isn't really a surprise that 510 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: the chief of staff in the White House would have 511 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: all of these texts, would have received them. I mean, 512 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: if ron Klain, who by the way, is the default 513 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: president of the United States right now, if ron Klain's 514 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: text messages were all leaked to the American public, guess 515 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: who he'd be texting with, primarily Democratic leaders about a 516 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: wide variety of different subjects. So the goal here is embarrassment, humiliation, 517 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: and the continued desperate ploy to make January sixth relevant 518 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: in the mid term. And here's the other part of this. 519 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: That's a for the Democrat base because they live in 520 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: a in a fantasy land. Unfortunately that is propped up 521 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: by The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, 522 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: and some other outlets and sites that are owned by billionaires. 523 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: The only billionaire who's bad when it comes to owning things, 524 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: you're going to find out is Elon Musk. It used 525 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: to it used to be the Koch brothers. We're behind 526 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: every everything that lives in Like now they're going to 527 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: say Elon Musk. Billionaires, This same Democrat party that's telling 528 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: everybody about how horrific it is that there were those 529 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: who didn't believe the election results. After the twenty twenty election, 530 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: they didn't believe and tried to undo and use the 531 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Department of Justice and the Intelligence community the twenty sixteen 532 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: election results. They lied endlessly about Donald Trump and Russia collusion. 533 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: So for a lot of folks, just like I don't 534 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: want to hear it, man, I don't know, I don't 535 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: really care. They can whine about the January sixth insurrection 536 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: all day. It was a riot. The left loves all 537 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: the other ryo and the people in this country who 538 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: are actually persuadable or saying, yeah, how's the economy, what's inflation? Like, 539 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: what's the border? Like? What is the benefit of having 540 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: rapidly deteriorating Biden allegedly calling the shots or the very 541 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: unimpressive people around him calling the shots. That's what they're 542 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: actually going to vote on. We'll get into this though, 543 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: More of this coming up here, And like I said, 544 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: we got Senator Rampaul in the next hour, So stick 545 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: around for us with us on that one. Look, there's 546 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of places you can get a cup of coffee, 547 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: but how about discovering great tasting coffee that's gonna be 548 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: consistent day after day. 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Welcome back again, Clay Churravis Buck Sexton Show. 569 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Letting you know, by the way, next hour we're gonna 570 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: talk with Senator rand Paul and then we are scheduled 571 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: in third hour to talk with the man running for 572 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: the one of the men running for the Senate Republican nomination, 573 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: doctor Oz in Pennsylvania, and all that's still to come. 574 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: But this is pretty entertaining, by the way, the fun 575 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: we've been starting to stack a few dubs here in 576 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: all honesty, Buck, when you think about this, CNN plus collapses. 577 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: Elon Musk on the verge of buying Twitter. The mask 578 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: mandate finished, the overall expectations for November for it to 579 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: be an absolute onslaught a red wave of epic proportions. 580 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: And Brian Stelter, who inexplicably has become one of the 581 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: faces of left wing absurdity, well he said, you know what, 582 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: we may never know whether CNN Plus was a success 583 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: or a failure. Listen, we probably have more viewers now 584 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: than ever before because there's so much curiosity. Let me 585 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: try out a theory on it. It's too early to 586 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: know if this product of this service was a success 587 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: or a failure. I you know, you got all the 588 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: haters today saying this thing was a failure. I don't 589 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: know if we can even never assess that, because it 590 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: just simply didn't have enough time because of the management 591 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: change in direction. And at the end of the day, 592 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: if you buy something, if you buy a giant media company, 593 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: you get to do whatever you want with it. But 594 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: it does mean there's a lot of suffering four employees 595 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: and frankly, disappointment among subscribers as a result. No, there's 596 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: not a lot of disappointment of subscribers. And look, when 597 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: you spend three hundred million dollars on something, you make 598 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: none of that back and you close it, it's a failure. 599 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: We know it's not a success. I don't know about you, buck. 600 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: If I lost three hundred million dollars on something, if 601 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I lost thirty million dollars on something, if I lost 602 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: three million dollars on something, I ain't happy. If I 603 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: lose three hundred thousand dollars on something, we know whether 604 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: or not it's a success or a failure. It's a 605 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: failure of epic proportions, one of the biggest in media history. 606 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: But I think It's fantastic that Brian Stelta could continue 607 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: to sit there and just say it was honestly amazing. 608 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: It just took more time than we had for us 609 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: to realize how amazing it was. By the way, your 610 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: sources at OutKick are we still being told that he 611 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: may be elevated because he's I want Stelter on that wall. 612 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: I need Stelter on that wall of lib media because 613 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: him the view constant content for those of us on 614 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: the other side, like he's Bobby Barak at at OutKick 615 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: reported that Stelter is under serious consideration for his own show. 616 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: More what is he only on like Sundays now? Right? 617 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: Like he has a weekly show? Yeah. The best part 618 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: of that it's called reliable sources, as if he's in 619 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: anyway reliable. And then you sit there and you wonder 620 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: how exactly is this show? Which I mean, on any 621 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: given week, it'll be some enormous media story that is 622 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: very distressing the left and it is generally just not 623 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: covered at all over there, which is pretty funny. And 624 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: they do some email news blast that will come out 625 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: to people that will tell them what the big stories are. 626 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I think that I think Stelter still does that they 627 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: used to do that over at see CNN media, and 628 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: it's just a it's just a propaganda mill. I mean, 629 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: this is the thing. It's fine if you want to 630 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: be Democrat media, just be honest about it. This is 631 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: my thing about CNN. Just just tell the truth. Just 632 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: tell your viewers, guys, we're all that the entire networker 633 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: left wing Democrats. Everybody who's on air here wants Democrats 634 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: to win. And we're gonna tell you why. I think MSNBC, 635 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: without being so explicit, it's pretty much there. I don't 636 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: think anybody believes MSNBC is anything other than Democrat CNN. Stelter, 637 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: this notion of their calling balls and strikes. This is 638 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: why they have these massive failures. It's just not true. 639 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: It's just it's just indefensible. I've never seen Brian Stelter's show. 640 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's not hyperbole. That's I have never I 641 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: mean I've seen clips of it on social media occasion. 642 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: Can I tell you a quick funny you have you 643 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: He had me on his show maybe five years ago, 644 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: and he wanted to ambush me because I had called 645 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: the terrorist attack in Islamic extremist attack that, by the way, 646 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: it turned out to be an Islamic extremist attack, but 647 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: it was before the official narrative. It's like, you know, 648 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: the guy is saying I'm doing this for Isis and 649 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, alahuak bar. I'm like, I think this is 650 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: the gee hottest attack. But it was before the official 651 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: narrative came out about that. And I will tell you 652 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: he got so smoked. They never aired the interview. They 653 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: I've never had that. They just pretend that it didn't happen. Yeah, 654 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: so you taped with him, like he came at me 655 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: on terrorism. I actually know what I'm talking about. I 656 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: texted the producers. I was like, you guys, just cut 657 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: that from the show. They're like, yeah, breaking news. I 658 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: was like, we taped Friday. It's a Sunday show. There 659 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: was no breaking news. But that's that's what you're dealing 660 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: with on it. So Brad, if you want to come up, 661 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: they could finish, we could do round two. We could 662 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: have a discussion about how todays they see it ed. 663 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: Plus was you call in. Let's have like a friendly discussion. 664 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: I've never listened to the show. He's welcome to call in. 665 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if Stelter wants to call in and explain himself. 666 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, open phone lines one eight two 667 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two. More people would hear 668 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: him on here than watch him on his show. Way more, 669 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: way more could be good promo. And look, we're nice guys. 670 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 1: We speak the truth, but we're nice guys. Mostly. Which 671 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: one of us is the nicer one, I don't know. 672 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes we both get a little sassy.