WEBVTT - Gleeking Fan Takeover

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<v Speaker 1>And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a wonderful fan from Ireland who stayed up

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<v Speaker 3>late to chat with us, Connor. Connor Burke is here.

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<v Speaker 3>Connor Burke is also in the arts, is an actor

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<v Speaker 3>and playwright and has a podcast, Glee Cat, that he

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<v Speaker 3>started during the pandemic where he was going back and

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<v Speaker 3>watching Glee having thoughtful conversations because he is a thoughtful lad.

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<v Speaker 2>And he also co hosts Gleek of the Week with

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>You can tell he's a really good interviewer. Really, he

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<v Speaker 4>kind of flipped the script on us, which we didn't mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But also from Ireland, he's also so good.

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<v Speaker 4>He's also so, he's got a lot of soul, he's thoughtful,

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<v Speaker 4>he's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have spoken to him for hours. He really

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<v Speaker 2>is the Irish opera. People are saying it, everyone's saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying it. Well, here's Connor.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh hello, hello, hello, hello, Hello. It's so good to

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<v Speaker 5>see you both.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, thanks for saying up late for us.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh this could have been four am.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's be real, what time is it there?

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<v Speaker 5>It is ten?

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<v Speaker 1>Here is I'm already in bed at that point.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not late.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, I can tell you you were both glowing. Whenever

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<v Speaker 5>I see clips on social media, I'm like that skin

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<v Speaker 5>dot la vibe is it's really hitting filter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting in the window to get as much light exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel direct sunlight on my face. You're so kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me. It has been

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<v Speaker 5>the best crack ever. Listening to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>It has just been so beautiful. I have not personally,

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<v Speaker 5>I've not watched Glee in a while. Obviously, I've dipped

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<v Speaker 5>in and out, So like, rewatching with you guys is

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<v Speaker 5>such an experience. It's so wonderful and it's it's been

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<v Speaker 5>like the best time, you know, kind of like I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, both of you kind of taking back the

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<v Speaker 5>narrative and like your experience is so like I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like more people need that, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm, thank you so appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and you sort of started this whole podcast business.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you are solely responsible.

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<v Speaker 5>This is all your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>This is you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm like Joe Rogan, who hello.

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<v Speaker 2>You invented?

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<v Speaker 5>Basically yeah, basically that's Spotify deal is coming real quick,

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<v Speaker 5>I am. Yeah. I set up a podcast called Glee

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<v Speaker 5>Cap in the midst of Lockdown in I believe it

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<v Speaker 5>was maybe April or May, and I had previously done

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<v Speaker 5>some like voice work in Ireland and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and I had this microphone sitting in front of me

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<v Speaker 5>and I literally woke up one morning and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to make a podcast about Glee.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like a rock had just a religious experience.

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<v Speaker 5>It was crazy and basically yeah, And by the by

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<v Speaker 5>the next day I had the first episode uploaded and

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<v Speaker 5>for the next however long, there was a different guest

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<v Speaker 5>basically every other week. People were all like Irish British

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<v Speaker 5>theater people, creatives, so fat, people who had never seen Glee,

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<v Speaker 5>people who were obsessed with it, and it was a

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<v Speaker 5>different dynamic every week. Then as a result, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was just it was the thing that kept me

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<v Speaker 5>going through lockdown. I was I didn't go insane. It

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<v Speaker 5>was so much work, but like such a joy. And

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<v Speaker 5>now in twenty twenty four, I'm still talking about it,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think I will, like if I live into

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<v Speaker 5>my nineties, Like I'm still going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 5>the show like to god, like it's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you find the show originally? How did it

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<v Speaker 2>come to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Glee?

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<v Speaker 5>The thing about Glee was like Glee started in obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>it first started in two thousand and nine, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I was fourteen and it ended when I was twenty

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<v Speaker 5>and so I feel like what people often miss from

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<v Speaker 5>like the narrative when they talk about the show is

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<v Speaker 5>that in those years, like you were obviously experiencing like

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<v Speaker 5>crazy things, like you're growing up, you're figuring out who

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<v Speaker 5>you were, You're friends with this person, but then you're

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<v Speaker 5>friends with that person, You're like, what am I doing

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<v Speaker 5>with my life? For me, the one constant in those

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<v Speaker 5>six years was a TV show. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>when you see conversations around fandom, you're just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>they really like this person because they can really sing.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's like it's actually more than that. It's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like what they represent and what the product in

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<v Speaker 5>this case, the TV show represents for you. Right, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I was fourteen years old, I was in

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<v Speaker 5>an all boys' school in Ireland. I was like obsessed

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<v Speaker 5>with musical theater, even though I cannot sing or do ance.

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<v Speaker 5>That is my boss always loved it. And then of

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<v Speaker 5>course this show comes along and it's like it's Taylor Made.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like someone reached into my brainah and was like this,

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<v Speaker 5>this is what you need. So there's kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>a deep emotionality to it that I feel like maybe

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people don't really understand. I know, Like

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<v Speaker 5>that's a question I had for you guys. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>guys obviously now living through like this podcast and recopying

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<v Speaker 5>the episode, like do you ever think you will both

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<v Speaker 5>get to a point in your life where you're like,

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<v Speaker 5>I understand how big of a deal this is? Or

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<v Speaker 5>do you still struggle to comprehend it even though it's

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<v Speaker 5>been a time since the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like I comprehended. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>do comprehend it, I think as well as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast has absolutely helped, Like talking to people like

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<v Speaker 2>you and learning about those perspectives has sort of filled

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<v Speaker 2>out a bigger picture where I think in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>if I travel anywhere. For example, I was in Houston

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<v Speaker 2>Texas a couple of weeks ago, and was getting recognized

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere I went in La like that doesn't happen very often,

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<v Speaker 2>And all those things add up to like a greater

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<v Speaker 2>picture of Oh, this show has been off the air

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, But I think you just described

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<v Speaker 2>it beautifully because I have this I feel this way

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<v Speaker 2>about certain shows or movies. But when people attach certain

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<v Speaker 2>parts of their life to that show, to that experience,

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<v Speaker 2>then that creates sort of the phenomenon of what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Because yes, like we were on cracker Boxes and you're

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<v Speaker 2>on tour, but a real lasting impact exactly how you

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<v Speaker 2>just described can only be felt after time has gone by,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think through this experience like we're doing right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it has created a much deeper understanding of the impact

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<v Speaker 2>it has had, and especially while we were doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>was very hard to detect or to feel right sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like there's another there's a level of

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<v Speaker 4>understanding and comprehension that we can kind of grasp from

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<v Speaker 4>a viewers point of view. It's like Gray's Anatomy. For me,

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<v Speaker 4>when that first came out, I felt like it was

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<v Speaker 4>the an Asian character that just played herself, like I

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<v Speaker 4>felt like there were characters I could relate to their

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<v Speaker 4>storylines that I loved, Like there was just a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of things about it that I hear echoed in Glee fans.

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<v Speaker 4>But like the understanding of like the impact it had

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<v Speaker 4>globally at such a big level, Well, it's still hard

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<v Speaker 4>to understand that, like we were a part of that,

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<v Speaker 4>I think. So I'm not sure if we'll ever you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we'll understand it to a point, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, because I feel like I remember so distinctly when

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<v Speaker 5>I was fourteen or fifteen years old sitting watching Glee

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<v Speaker 5>with my parents, who and obviously I was a gay teenager.

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<v Speaker 5>I had known that since I was like a ten

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<v Speaker 5>or eleven, and there was a scene happening on screen

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<v Speaker 5>that was centered around Kurt. I can't remember what it was,

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<v Speaker 5>and I remember so distinctly staring at my parents in

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<v Speaker 5>my peripheral vision to try and read the reaction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, that was my That was my first introduction.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I had no idea what to do in that situation,

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<v Speaker 5>like I was a child, and so to see this

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<v Speaker 5>played out on screen was so powerful and it's so

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<v Speaker 5>so beautiful and something that I see a lot like

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<v Speaker 5>on social media around the show. It's I don't see

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<v Speaker 5>like a lot of story like that discussed kind of enough.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I kind of approached Glee from a more emotional standpoint,

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<v Speaker 5>and obviously I laugh at all the memes and stuff too,

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<v Speaker 5>and all the great stuff that have come out. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that that's that's like a really important thing. Yeah, definitely, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, like what a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Damien coming on the show? What would.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I was so glad to get that

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<v Speaker 5>Irish repon. I don't know, I obviously know he was

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<v Speaker 5>on your pod, like yeah, a couple of months or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember. Did you guys ask him about that?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember what his whole thing is. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he just thinks it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, yeah, he took it in stride.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it was out of all the places,

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<v Speaker 2>like I love that somebody from Ireland and the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I loved, we loved him so much.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I was such a gorgeous singing voice as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember there was one there was one season it

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<v Speaker 5>must have been season was obviously season three, and he

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<v Speaker 5>came home to Ireland for Christmas and there is a

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<v Speaker 5>very famous talk show in Ireland called The Late Late Show.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like it's actually the longest running talk show in

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<v Speaker 5>the world. And he was honest and it was like

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<v Speaker 5>the Beatles, like people were going like you and of

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<v Speaker 5>course you guys obviously don't see it from that perspective,

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<v Speaker 5>but people were like, I remember going to the tour

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<v Speaker 5>in Dublin.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, guys, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>You go to I went to the very last one.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that was that was pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>Our energy was wild.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it true what they say about Irish Crewds because

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<v Speaker 5>all these musicians are always like Irish Crewds are brilliant,

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<v Speaker 5>But then you always think, oh are they just saying

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<v Speaker 5>that just to appease let's are we good?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the thing about that venue was weird. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>allowing people to stand up.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first show we did it was an afternoon

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<v Speaker 4>matinee and nobody's standing and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, did they hate us, Like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>And we were did They wouldn't stand never, So we

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<v Speaker 4>had to ask them. We had to ask them to

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<v Speaker 4>allow people to stand because we were like this will

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<v Speaker 4>be a nightmare of show, run of shows if people

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<v Speaker 4>can't stand up and like dance.

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<v Speaker 2>But we just started instructing people like we're on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember, Kevin, did you come out? Am I just

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<v Speaker 5>imagining this? Did you comment in a tri color and

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<v Speaker 5>you were singing, ohky boy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm glad I would erupted somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that, Keaven.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm like, I have somebody to verify that

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't money.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, one of the best nights of my life.

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<v Speaker 5>My sister and her then boyfriend now husband brought me.

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<v Speaker 5>It was the three of us. I think I heard

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<v Speaker 5>you talk about this Jenna recently, Like the crowd was

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<v Speaker 5>It's the most I've credit ever seen at a concert

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<v Speaker 5>to this day. Yeah, Like there was literally like an

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<v Speaker 5>eight year old woman there having the time, Like it

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<v Speaker 5>was amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn.

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<v Speaker 5>How did that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys?

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<v Speaker 5>That must have been such a relief for you that

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<v Speaker 5>particular night, because I'm sure you had the best crack ever,

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<v Speaker 5>but also you must have been exhausted and been like,

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<v Speaker 5>let me go, Like it must have been such a

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<v Speaker 5>weird conflict you know what I mean, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of those things where I think every

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people were like just very tired, done

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<v Speaker 2>over it, like we I mean that was in July.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that in July?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we started shooting a year before or maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was June. I don't know. Like we had been working

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<v Speaker 2>almost for twelve months straight, and so by the time

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<v Speaker 2>we got to Dublin, we had just lost our minds. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like there were yeah, like you said, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a part of like my dad has always wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Ireland. I could be on stage and

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<v Speaker 2>sing oh Danny Boy with the crowd like the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>experience ever. And then also then everyone just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be done. But then during that last last show, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember looking back and like people were just crying because

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<v Speaker 2>it was also are we going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>ever do this again? Is this ever going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a huge conflict of we're grateful, we're tired,

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<v Speaker 2>we love each other, we love doing this, all those

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<v Speaker 2>things all at once, and everything came out sort of

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<v Speaker 2>in that last show. And I love that you were

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<v Speaker 2>there to see Yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 5>My god, I amazing, like literally one of the best

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<v Speaker 5>days of my life, like I swear in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know what's so interesting when you guys always

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<v Speaker 5>talk about the schedule and stuff like that, even when

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<v Speaker 5>you're filming, the thing with me is and I know

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<v Speaker 5>I will. I have never had this experience. I can

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<v Speaker 5>talk away to like a radiator and have a full

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<v Speaker 5>blown conversation for seven hours, but like, I am an

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<v Speaker 5>introvert and I need time to decompress. So when you

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<v Speaker 5>guys talk about those long hours, I'm just like, it's

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<v Speaker 5>one thing, like the physical exhaustion, But like what I got, like,

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<v Speaker 5>was there every time where you could just go away

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<v Speaker 5>into the corner of like the choir room or somewhere

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<v Speaker 5>off set and just be like, I need to lie

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<v Speaker 5>down for twenty minutes, please don't speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that happened more often than not.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there were times where like you'd be totally in

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<v Speaker 4>the mix, you'd be laughing, you'd be hanging with everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>and like two or three people would be off kind

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<v Speaker 4>of doing their own thing. And then there would be

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<v Speaker 4>times where like I'd go off and kind of sit

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<v Speaker 4>and all the sets are pretty much close in you know,

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<v Speaker 4>close proximity to each other, so like even shoes. Apartment

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<v Speaker 4>was like a standing set, and so we would go

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<v Speaker 4>and like lay in his bed because there was a

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<v Speaker 4>real bed, so like you'd just go lay there and

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<v Speaker 4>people would be like, just tell me where you're going

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<v Speaker 4>next time, so I know where you are when you

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<v Speaker 4>have to go to set. But yeah, there were definite

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<v Speaker 4>I think everybody had a little bit of that recharge

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<v Speaker 4>button that had to like go away for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>And especially in those first three seasons when it was

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<v Speaker 4>just so monstrous, we would all just we were like

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<v Speaker 4>professional naptakers. We'd all knock out like so fast and

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<v Speaker 4>for like twenty minutes. It would just be like the

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<v Speaker 4>most important sleep of our day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say the first season, so we were

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<v Speaker 2>like hanging out more like we'd be playing games. And

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<v Speaker 2>then as the show started to go on, we're like

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<v Speaker 2>we learned to preserve. Yeah, we need to take some time. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just like sit in silence for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How has it been doing your podcast? Still?

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<v Speaker 5>It's been a joy. You know. I've had friends of mine,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, for example, one of my friends, Lizzie, a

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<v Speaker 5>year or two ago, played Tracy Turnblood in the West

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<v Speaker 5>End production of Hers by the revival of that show,

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<v Speaker 5>and she came on and she would talk about how

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<v Speaker 5>like she was like I do musical theater because of Gray.

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<v Speaker 5>So there'd be a story like that, or there'd be

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<v Speaker 5>a story about you know, my friend Emma who when

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<v Speaker 5>she was thirteen decided her favorite character on Glee was

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<v Speaker 5>Emma Pill's breathe and decided to run out and die

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<v Speaker 5>her hair ginger. I was like, I believe, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>it's been beautiful. And what happened was I recapped the

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<v Speaker 5>first four seasons and I had the time of my life.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I went to drama school in London and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously those hours are manic, and so I took a breather.

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<v Speaker 5>And then relatively recently, I have been guessing very regularly

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<v Speaker 5>on Gleek of the Week, which we all know, and

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<v Speaker 5>it has just been this. It sounds so strange to

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<v Speaker 5>say it has been such a joy, Like the amount

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<v Speaker 5>of work that Andrew puts into that podcast. Believe it's

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<v Speaker 5>a full time job. On top of his full time job,

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<v Speaker 5>you still have these people who are so invest like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're getting dms being like I can't believe

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<v Speaker 5>you voted that song out like that, and it's been glorious.

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<v Speaker 5>And Andrew and I got to interview Lauren Party. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>that was just wonderful for many reasons. Obviously because we

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<v Speaker 5>love her, Yes, Secondly, she just spoke so eloquently about

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<v Speaker 5>her experience and why her life was fundamentally changed by

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<v Speaker 5>the show. And thirdly, like quite frankly, it was an

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<v Speaker 5>emotional experience for Andrew and I, Like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of uncomfortable to say, as I imagine it's uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 5>to hear. But there's a lot of cast members yourselves included,

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<v Speaker 5>that mean a lot to us for a variety of reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we're kind of sitting there like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 5>like this is more to fine, but it's also kind

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<v Speaker 5>of camp, you know, it's fun. But yeah, it's been

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<v Speaker 5>a joy and and the podcast inside of it has

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<v Speaker 5>been great. I's like, I can I can name like

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<v Speaker 5>six clee podcasts, Like, yeah, I have got my own

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<v Speaker 5>theories as to why people are still talking about this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us do.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what's so funny? Actually? And this is strange,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I was on YouTube maybe a month or two ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and they always say that no one knows, like no

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<v Speaker 5>one knows you like your homepage on YouTube, and the

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<v Speaker 5>recommended video was Glee cast version of Scream, and I

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<v Speaker 5>had not seen it in so long, and I clicked

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<v Speaker 5>on it and I watched it, and I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I was like, this is just like this

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<v Speaker 5>is just fantastic, Like the fact that that musical performance, right,

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<v Speaker 5>a random musical performance knee deep into the middle of

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<v Speaker 5>season three, in an episode with eight or nine musical

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<v Speaker 5>performances was filmed, and obviously Havin yourself and Harry are

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<v Speaker 5>amazing in it, but like the cinematography, and like, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, this is just people are always talking about

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<v Speaker 5>I think Glee. People still talk about Glee because of

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<v Speaker 5>this and this and that. It's like, well, people still

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<v Speaker 5>talk about Glee because Glee was so good, like it was.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't. I don't think there's ever been anything on

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<v Speaker 5>TV since that comes close with There's been amazing stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that have been highly influenced by it, like the rise

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<v Speaker 5>of movie musicals and stuff like that. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 5>don't there's not a there's not been a show that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of incorporates music as well. In my opinion, the talent,

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<v Speaker 5>like I think Robert Ulrich and his team if they

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<v Speaker 5>ever won any awards, they deserve every award because, like,

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<v Speaker 5>you all just played your part so well, and like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about from like from Leah and Corey all

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<v Speaker 5>the way down to like Josh Sussman, like it was

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<v Speaker 5>in everything, Like you all just played the part so

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<v Speaker 5>like you did the work. Sometimes I was like, how

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<v Speaker 5>do you guys get a script and then read this

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<v Speaker 5>ridiculous scenario and then go from that to like what

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<v Speaker 5>we see on screen? Mm hmmm, because quite often as

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<v Speaker 5>an actor, and I can only speak in my experience,

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<v Speaker 5>like quite often it's more difficult to get one or

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<v Speaker 5>two lines of dialogue and like make at work than

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<v Speaker 5>actually have like a juicy scene to like for.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, totally, those were the hardest. Was like sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>a choir room with twelve fourteen people and you have

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<v Speaker 4>one line that comes in the middle of all that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, what is that line again?

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<v Speaker 4>Because there's just nothing to connect it too, so you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>don't forget it, or like I just and then and

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<v Speaker 4>then you mess it up and you're like, what's my line?

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<v Speaker 4>You're like the one the actor in the room. When

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<v Speaker 4>you have one line you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chris has a full monologue and three weeks yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Stop, yeah, I always about about mister Shoe. I was

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<v Speaker 5>like I in some ways, I'm like I really really

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<v Speaker 5>kind of felt bad for Matthew Morrison because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>he always had the opening, Hey, we're going to do

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<v Speaker 5>yeah so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And like obviously Naya and Uh and Jane Lynch

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<v Speaker 5>with those monologues like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just yeah, they were both so good at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could also just memorize it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's look at it and really remember did she do.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys like did she have a photographic memory? Like

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<v Speaker 5>would you be surprised?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, I saw her too many times do not

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<v Speaker 2>look at the scene until the morning of and she

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<v Speaker 2>would have a full page of you know, like rambling

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<v Speaker 2>nonsense that does makes no sense. Yeah, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you would have drama school, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a monologue and it's like a train of thought and

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<v Speaker 2>it's written really well, you could follow that. Then it's

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<v Speaker 2>much easier to memorize because it's a natural train of thought.

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<v Speaker 2>When Ian is writing those like Sue in Santana monologue,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost Yeah, it's like joke after joke after joke

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<v Speaker 2>after joke and with you know, like snarkiness. So not

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<v Speaker 2>only are they able to memorize it, they're also like

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<v Speaker 2>acting it properly. And so I would go into the

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<v Speaker 2>hair and makeup trailer with her like sides for the day,

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<v Speaker 2>read it over maybe once or twice, and then have

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<v Speaker 2>it and that and I I would I remember like

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<v Speaker 2>like yelling at her. I'm like, that is insane, howe.

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<v Speaker 5>Why why?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely rious?

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<v Speaker 5>But do you know what as well, what I what

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<v Speaker 5>I will say is obviously this show and I will

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<v Speaker 5>die in this hill is one of the funniest TV

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<v Speaker 5>shows of the past, like thirty years. It is so

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<v Speaker 5>so witty and I literally sometimes I feel like screaming

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<v Speaker 5>at my friends that don't watch it. I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 5>need your ass down the show. But another thing that

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<v Speaker 5>is so impressive about it the way all of you

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<v Speaker 5>would like inflect your lines. And Kevin just reminded me

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<v Speaker 5>there of when you were talking about Naya. It was

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<v Speaker 5>it was not only what was written on the page,

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<v Speaker 5>it was the way your voice would like inflect the lines.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you guys just kind of was that all instinct

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<v Speaker 5>or like just say, if you had a one liner

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<v Speaker 5>that was really funny where you often stopped and was

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<v Speaker 5>it like a case of Jenna, please don't say it

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<v Speaker 5>like this, Can you like say it like that? Or

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<v Speaker 5>was that very much up to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think that ever happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, there was no I don't think anybody got coached

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<v Speaker 4>on their timing or delivery. I think after there was

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<v Speaker 4>like a tone that was really set in the pilot,

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<v Speaker 4>and the speed at which we spoke was very much

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<v Speaker 4>faster than a lot of other shows, and the way

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<v Speaker 4>that you delivered lines was very much a style that

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of created for us by all of us

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<v Speaker 4>I think together. I mean as a lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>people in the pilot who spoke a lot, I think did.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, no, very I don't think we ever got

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<v Speaker 4>delivery notes or anything like that. It was just that

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<v Speaker 4>they trusted us to know our characters and how we

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<v Speaker 4>would want to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if we got notes, it would be about like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe timing or pacing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or you said this word wrong or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 4>the writing was so excellent that like you didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>have to do much work, like if you just said it,

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<v Speaker 4>like you let it do the work on its own.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think That's also partially where that that

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.719
<v Speaker 4>tone came from, was the writing was so consistent and

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 4>the jokes were so consistent in that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, because it must have been a bizarre experience, or

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 5>maybe it wasn't. Like okay, if I think about it right,

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 5>one episode, it's Quinn getting into a car crush, it's

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 5>all of the Krofsky stuff. It's Finn and Rachel getting married.

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<v Speaker 5>The next episode is not Bomer. The next episode it's

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<v Speaker 5>a tribute to Saturday night favorite. The next episode it's Whitney.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Yes, were you like, would you like open.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, oh look we're gonna perform a man umbrella with

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Were you like reading this being like this is insane?

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Or were you like, this is the most normal thing.

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 5>Like six episodes in felt kind of normalmal.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Completely normal, because when you.

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Say it like that, yeah, you're like what.

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.479
<v Speaker 2>But we never saw it like that because we were

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 2>usually like filming one episode and then you get the

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>script for the next episode in the last few days

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>of that current episode, and you're just sort of.

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing next? Tell us where to go?

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 2>You're just looking at anything, We're looking at the story.

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 2>And so I think, like when you see what the

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>episodes are now as a completion, you're like, oh, yeah,

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that's right, same night Fever and Whitney and like what

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy, none of those.

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 5>Like how do you do that?

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Back to back to Matt Boemer, I think we were

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>just in it, so you're just showing up to work

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>like you're just on the hamster wheel.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 4>That's why I think like Matt Bohmer was such a

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<v Speaker 4>shock to us when we watched it this time, or

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 4>at least for me, because he was so underrated in

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 4>my mind of that episode, because I think we were

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 4>just moving so fast that when we rewatched it, I

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 4>was like, how did I miss this?

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>How did I Martin? It was like some of those

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>people were in and out of there so quickly, so fast. Yeah,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that we just had no concept of what was actually

0:25:58.280 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 2>happening around to.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, you were part of a massive machine essentially, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure it felt that way on tour as well,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 5>like you're going to all of these great places, but

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 5>like did you necessarily have the time to like relax,

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 5>unwind and like no explore you know, I.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Have to interviewer by the way, Yeah, you're very good

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 4>at that. You're very like are we on your podcast?

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Are you on ours?

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 5>Because do you know what I feel like, Oprah Winfrey

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 5>right now? Were you silent or were you silent? I've

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 5>been waiting for this since two thousand and nine, as

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 5>these are.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent questions, very good questions. It feels like therapy. This

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>is great.

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin and I actually were pretty good on tour, even

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 4>though I was losing my mind and my head was

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 4>half off.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, we did explore quite a bit.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 4>The two of us would like go out during the

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 4>day with a security guard and try.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>And go see things and try the food or whatever.

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 4>Like in Philadelphia we want to get like Philly steaks

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 4>at the Samous place. Like it was just like we

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>tried as much as we could to like make this

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 4>a normal experience for ourselves.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>We didn't sometimes we were moving too quickly. When we

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>got to Dublin, we had a full day to which

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>was like a luxury temple Street was so much. Yeah,

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>so we get to run around and actually.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we went to dinner. It was really fun. Yeah.

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, people were insane back in those days, like the

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 5>Sons are are absolutely amazing, but so I just can't

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 5>rock around that concept. Has your relationship with This sounds

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:43.479
<v Speaker 5>like I'm peers mooredan has your relationship with like Anderson

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 5>Cooper and seeing in exclusive, but has it like has

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 5>your relationship with the quote unquote fame slash being well

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 5>known recognized? Like how does that sit with you now?

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 5>Like are you comfortable with it? Is it kind of annoying?

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 5>Is it?

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Like? Well, I don't feel like I'm famous anymore? So,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Like I kind of feel like at the time, we

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 4>were so young and we were we were Oh thank you.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 4>We were living in this like crazy hot bubble that

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 4>like was just on fire the whole time, and we

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 4>were just riding it like it's like a wave. I

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know, that's a really weird analogy, but.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we were in it.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 4>We were in it together, so like it wasn't just

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 4>one person. It wasn't like Jennifer Lawrence coming up in

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 4>her career and being all by herself in this like moment,

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 4>Like we were all together in it. It was happening

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 4>to all of us at once, and it was very

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 4>strange at the time, and I'm sure we all have

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 4>our own stories about how it shaped us and affected

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 4>our lives and affected our lives now even but I

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>think now I look back on it, like, wow, what

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 4>a cool, weird thing, Like fame isn't fame isn't the

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 4>thing that's that's important? Like it sure, and like it

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 4>was a really it did a lot for us, Like

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>it opened a lot of doors and it's why we're

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 4>able to be in the positions we're in still but

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 4>like in our careers. And so I feel like, but

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 4>I look back on it with that moment of like, oh, right,

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 4>that was It is fleeting and it's not real and

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.959
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of strange, and you know, you learn lessons

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 4>from it.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who it was, Jenna, but you probably

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>were there for this conversation somebody who I don't know

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 2>who it was, but was very famous at the time

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and we were just starting and they're like, fame is

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>not real, famous, fake, None of these people know you.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 2>They and it's really great to be admired by these

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 2>people because you're a part of something that's touching a

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of lives. But if you use that or hold

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>on to that in any sort of serious way to

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.959
<v Speaker 2>make yourself feel important or give your life meaning, you

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 2>are going to be left because it is not a

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>real thing, right, and like just and like once the

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>show is done, then that fame changes, it evolves or

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>moves away, and so I think sort of keeping that

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind the whole time. Yeah,

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>was and like also adjusting to your relationship to fans,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>In terms of when.

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>You're out in public, how you interact with people, how

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>they interact with you. Also on tour was a really

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>interesting experience because state to state, country to country, fans

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>interact differently, very differently, because it's a cultural thing. And

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>so I think, like now my relationship to it is

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 2>very different because maybe because I've gone through all of that,

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>but like now I have no problem with it, easy,

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>happy when people come say hi, you know what whatever.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Back then it was because it was I think so

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>frequent and so sometimes aggressive that you have the adverse

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>reaction and you want to just sort of shrink into

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>yourself and like that's it.

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Kevin, I think it was like a little bit scary,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Like we were a little bit threatened at the time,

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 4>not by the fans themselves, but just by like your

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 4>own personal space being kind of.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Eliminated.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 4>So there's this like level of like am I am

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 4>I safe in this moment right, like, because I'm still

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 4>a person, Like it's like anybody coming into your personal

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 4>space and asking you for something that is very unfamiliar.

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 4>But these days, I think with social media and the

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 4>way we choose to put out our lives and the

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 4>way that we're connecting with fans and even with this podcast,

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 4>it's like I equate them with like two different things.

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Like I equate our fans as a very different thing

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 4>than fame. Yeah, Like I fame to me is like

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 4>this fake thing that's like, Yeah, the media builds you up.

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>People kind of know who you are. They think they

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>know who you are.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 4>You get this like rise and you know, ego and

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 4>moments of like wow, people want want to be you,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 4>They want to be a part of you, they want

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 4>to know it. Whereas the fans were like the we

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 4>would be nowhere without our fans and without this show,

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 4>Like people like you who were you were deeply impacted

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 4>in an emotional way, like I've been deeply impacted by

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 4>another show. Like so I see them as two completely

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 4>separate things. Just to be clear, But yeah, I think

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 4>it's a it's really weird.

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I think that's what both of you just said.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 5>There is so beautiful because I think from obviously I'm

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 5>only one person, like I'm not speaking for all of

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 5>the fans, but I think what are what are so

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 5>beautiful about podcasts like this, particularly this one, is that

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 5>the way you two just spoke. I think when you're

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 5>a fan and you're a lifelong follower of people, you

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 5>can really sense that kind of authenticity, if you know

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.959
<v Speaker 5>what I mean. Like your first two episodes on this

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 5>podcast with Ryan Murphy was like I'm going to go

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 5>on a limb here and say this two of the

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 5>best podcast episodes I've to ever about anything, because it

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 5>was just so like, let's just talk about this, like

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 5>three human beings that love and respect and admire people

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 5>and admire each other and like just have a chat

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 5>like there's and you can tell that when you're listening,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 5>do you know what I mean? Like, if you've got

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 5>any semblance of emotional intelligence, you can kind of tell that.

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 5>And that's why this has just been so beautiful, Like

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 5>it's very there's something really like moving about that, do

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean? And you guys kind of

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 5>come into that realization as you've gone through. Is there

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 5>anything that surprised you about the show, Yeah so much.

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Let me season three. Yeah, And I know we've said

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it before, but what's my favorite part, honestly is like

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>getting like the interactions from people who listen and being

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like this in season three or look out for this

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 2>in season two. That's been surprising because a lot of

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>time very different than our memories, and so having a

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>direct connection to people in that way, like if we

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>were on a show now and you could almost have

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>that instant connection to see how you know, an episode

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>affects people, but people even on Twitter back then it

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>was different. There's a different language, slower, yeah, And so

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>being able to hear people's favorites and what moves people,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 2>and like hearing your story about like sitting next to

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>your parents during a Kurt like coming out scene, all

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of that is surprising in like a really wonderful way,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 2>because like that is something very meaningful and obviously something

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>that you will remember, and that has been and people

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 2>like you sharing that and feeling comfortable sharing that, that

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>to me has been like the most surprising thing. And

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe it probably just goes back to your

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 2>wonderfully astute observation and questions about when we started the podcast,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I think setting it up as a place of safety,

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you can be honest, there's no judgment. Nobody's perfect. We

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 2>all made mistakes making this thing, as everyone does at

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>times in their lives, and so I think setting that

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>up for fans or cast or crew to come on

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 2>to share their experience has been very surprising because the perspectives,

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>even with people we worked with, are very different than

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>our own. And that's just been wonderful to hear.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 5>Sure, it's a.

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Very long way to say that. Sorry, no, I.

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Remember so clearly, you know, complete honesty. When NYA passed

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 5>and twenty twenty and obviously that was the Height during

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 5>the Height lockdown, and it was a very tough time

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 5>all around the world for a myriad of reasons. And

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 5>at that time a BBC journalist reached out to me

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 5>to ask me to go on to BBC and talk

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 5>about queer representation and why that's important, especially with what

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 5>Naya and some time I did for all of us.

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 5>And I did, and I went on and I was

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 5>talking to them for around fifteen minutes and I hung

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 5>up with the phone. But it was like an hour

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 5>long slot on the radio, if you know what I mean.

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 5>So I listened to like the remaining forty five minutes,

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 5>and there must have been like a dozen two dozen

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<v Speaker 5>people on after me talking about their experiences and the

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 5>weight that Glee and then by extension, all of you

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<v Speaker 5>guys held for us. And I remember in that moment,

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<v Speaker 5>I literally just kind of broke down crying, but like

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<v Speaker 5>obviously because of what had happened, but also because I

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 5>was kind of thinking I will probably never meet these

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<v Speaker 5>people who are talking about their experiences on the radio

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 5>in my life. I don't know them. They're from different

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 5>parts of the world to me, but like, here we

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 5>are so connected by this like thing. Yeah, and then

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 5>I was kind of like, and people who are listening

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 5>are going to think that this sounds so hyperbolic and

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 5>so over the top, But like I was, like, I

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<v Speaker 5>know for a fact in that moment that this show

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 5>is going to echo throughout my life in some way

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 5>for the rest of my life because it came into

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<v Speaker 5>my life at such a time when I needed it,

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<v Speaker 5>so it implanted itself into my brain. Yeah, and there

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 5>hasn't been a piece of media since it came out

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm like, I obviously like things. I love different

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 5>TV shows and stuff, but it's it's like, I'm twenty nine.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Who said that, not me? I'm twenty nine now, Like

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 5>the show came in when into my life when I

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 5>was fourteen, that.

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Is right, and half my life. Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's just so nice to hear from you that

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 4>it affected you so profoundly that like you you can't

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.479
<v Speaker 4>see like you can see this like forever connection. That's

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 4>like really beautiful and I don't think anybody's ever said.

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It that way.

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<v Speaker 4>And thank you for all your really wonderful, thoughtful, intentional questions.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one more question for you before we wrap up.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the feeling that Glee leaves you with?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's so lovely listening to your podcast

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 5>when you ask that question, because when you're listening to

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 5>it and you're just like cleaning your room or whatever

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 5>as you're listening, you can always hear like a beat

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 5>before someone answers that. It's so lovely. Uglee was and

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 5>continues to be like one of the most important things

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 5>to me. It quite literally like altered the course of

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 5>my life. And I sometimes I hear I hear what

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying and I'm like, oh my god, Conor, I

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 5>can't pletely just said that. But that's how I feel.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 5>I get so emotional about it. It was I I

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 5>look past everything surrounding the show and I look I

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of look to the work and what all of

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 5>you did for me. The work is the most important thing.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 5>There's a very there's a very famous Irish playwright that

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 5>I love called Enda Walch who he actually, you guys,

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 5>might he adapted the musical once he wanted like a

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 5>Tony Ward for that. Yes, And he gave an interview

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 5>to a newspaper a couple of years ago that he

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 5>said all of his all of my plays are about

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 5>people who haven't been loved or looked after. And I

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 5>think that really resonated with me because I'm like, I

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 5>think a lot of like Ryan Murphy and Co's work

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 5>is centered around that team. Yes, just the essence of

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 5>Glee to me, I wasn't necessarily interested in who was

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 5>like in a relationship or who was breaking up. The

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 5>emotional essence to me was these weird old kids following

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 5>their dreams. That that was the impact for me. I

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 5>was like, are they going to get into Niada? Are

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 5>they going to go to New York? What is already

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 5>going to do when you leave that because I was

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 5>living at Yeah, you know, my dad is in a

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 5>wheelchair too. My dad is a double amputee, and you know,

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 5>he's the best man ever, but he's also a man

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 5>of a certain age that expresses very little emotion. I

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 5>remember him seeing Artie on TV for the first time

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 5>and literally like an older man. So it leaves me

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 5>with immense gratitude and gratefulness and I'm still talking about

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 5>it today and I will continue to do that as well.

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 5>All of my friends, like we just adore the show

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 5>and I don't think that's ever going to ever going

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 5>to change anytime soon. So thank you so much for

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.479
<v Speaker 5>asking me on and also thank you for just doing

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 5>this in general, because I know as a fan, I

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 5>think it's well needed and it's it's such a beautiful

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 5>like exercise and like kind of talking your truth and

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 5>stuff like that. So yeah, thank you.

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 2>You're yeh jem Yeah sweet sweet, I just thank you.

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 2>You're a playwright, yes, yeah, I can't imagine the things

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 2>you write because you speak. Yeah, if it makes you,

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>it makes anyone feel any better.

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 5>Lee is the only thing in the world I can

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 5>talk about like I'm like, bitch, don't ask me about taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like, well no, yeah, who knows, that's about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, thank you so.

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Much, so much speaking with you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, what.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 4>A sweet sweet I feel moved, you know, just like

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 4>sit back in your chair a little bit when you

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 4>talk to people like that who just have these like

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 4>really intentional, thoughtful questions.

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many times I have said thoughtful

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>in this episode, but.

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I think Connor, if you're still listening, I don't know

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 2>if you thought to pursue journalism or being a host

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of some sort in your professional life. But I know

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>you said it's only because you know so much about

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Glee that you can talk like this. I don't think

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that's true, because you're brilliant. You really sat and watched

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 2>somebody who was really good at the job, and this

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 2>is not what you do professionally, and and like we've

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 2>been interviewed a bunch of times by a lot of

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 2>people interview and you're excellent.

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>At this, like this is and he was on our podcast.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I just need to be your cheerleader for

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 2>a hot second and be like, maybe you need to

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:21.439
<v Speaker 2>think about this and a more in like a serious way,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 2>because you're very good and it was an honor to

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>be interviewed by you. You had incredible questions, you were

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 2>engaged in listening. Listen like I'm taking notes. I will

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 2>be applying them to our future interviews. Wow, I just

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 2>you know good, Yeah, I know if you know you

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.280
<v Speaker 2>know yeah, Like we were in the presence of somebody

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>who was excellent at what they do.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>And it felt like that and felt nice to share

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Connor to come for coming on and showing

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 4>your don We really appreciate it.

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Hope you all enjoyed it. We're going to have some

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>more fans in the future, so come back. That's what

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:03.040
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