Speaker 1: I got to come see the new house.
Speaker 2: You haven't been here?
Speaker 1: No, I have agoraphobia. I never leave the house.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a training that's like
Speaker 3: so that's like all the girls.
Speaker 1: Hello, beauties, Welcome to another Beauty Translated minisode. Minisode number
Speaker 1: eleven to be exact. This time, I'm joined by past
Speaker 1: guest and friend Zeta Zane. Welcome back, Zada, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here. How have you been. I've
Speaker 1: been doing well. I've just been here in my closet
Speaker 1: recording podcasts with a puppy. But how have you been miss?
Speaker 4: I actually got a new puppy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, introduce us.
Speaker 2: Awesome precious.
Speaker 1: Yes, that looks like my sunny, except my sunny is
Speaker 1: like the apricot color.
Speaker 4: He's a Barnado.
Speaker 1: Berniese mountain dog and a doodle. We need to have
Speaker 1: a puppy day.
Speaker 4: So that'd be so cute.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna catch up with Zeta and all of
Speaker 1: her excellent news and are let's celebrate that segment. But
Speaker 1: first we're gonna talk about why we fucking hate it here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why we fucking hate it here? So I have a
Speaker 1: couple of things I wanted to discuss versus like this
Speaker 1: ongoing thing with like Lance Armstrong and Caitlin Jenner.
Speaker 2: What are what are those two men saying?
Speaker 1: Right? What do they have to say? Well, the men
Speaker 1: while the men are talking talking, So yeah, they think
Speaker 1: that trans people should not participate in in gendered sports.
Speaker 1: I had this whole thing, I had, and so like
Speaker 1: a week ago, they recorded a podcast together and they
Speaker 1: have of course together, Lance Armstrong and Kaitlyn Jenner are
Speaker 1: the only thing that they're going to fucking talk about
Speaker 1: is trans people in sports. And of course, Lance Armstrong's take,
Speaker 1: many people were surprised to learn, was that he feels
Speaker 1: that trans people should have their own category of sports
Speaker 1: and should not be able to participate in engendered sports.
Speaker 1: And Caitlyn Jenner agrees with him, of course, And I
Speaker 1: just I find it funny and ironic because Caitlyn Jenner
Speaker 1: is a tranny who plays golf in the Women's Golfing
Speaker 1: League and Lance Armstrong is most famous for cheating and
Speaker 1: in his sport and only having one testicle. So like, like,
Speaker 1: you know that tea is a little low, Mama, The
Speaker 1: tea levels are low.
Speaker 2: Can we get it?
Speaker 1: Can we get it? Can we get a look at
Speaker 1: his levels.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you how I feel about these conversations. Honestly,
Speaker 3: the trans people in sports conversations are just bait. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's really all it is.
Speaker 4: It's bait.
Speaker 3: It's it's the easiest way to generate engagement these days
Speaker 3: to be a SIS person or even a white late transitioner.
Speaker 2: You know who it's, mam. But you know it's it's.
Speaker 3: Really easy to generate engagement when you talk about things
Speaker 3: that quite frankly, you don't know enough about. And even
Speaker 3: more so than that, these conversations are so they're invalid
Speaker 3: because they like from the jump, because they assume that
Speaker 3: we're all the same, they all trans people are the same,
Speaker 3: and we're just we're absolutely not. You know, listen, I'm
Speaker 3: not someone who wants to participate in sports. I don't
Speaker 3: really see that for myself. This doesn't really fit my fantasy,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: But it's not that type of girl.
Speaker 4: We have another kind of girl.
Speaker 3: But honestly, if you really think about a carbon if
Speaker 3: I was Caitlin Jenner and I was that bricky and
Speaker 3: you know, old, and I said I really transitioned that late,
Speaker 3: I too would think that no trans people deserve to
Speaker 3: be in sports. But that's the thing, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: one thing that these conversations lack is nuanced. And you know, listen,
Speaker 3: life is not about black and white answers, even if
Speaker 3: it hurts your feelings.
Speaker 4: You know, that's the truth of the matter.
Speaker 3: I'm not about to get like Joe Rogan on it
Speaker 3: of right, you know, or anything like that, But I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like there are moments there are people that have literally
Speaker 3: been on hormones or blockers since they were kids, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like their biology is so
Speaker 3: similar to like the a natal person of their gender.
Speaker 3: You know, so those people, like, you know, like there are.
Speaker 1: Just like versus somebody who started when they were fifty or.
Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, exactly, And like that's the thing people
Speaker 3: don't understand, Like we're all so people are all so
Speaker 3: different across the board, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: this ship if we're got to be real about it's
Speaker 3: a case by case basis. I mean, I'm like that's
Speaker 3: the realty, you know. Like everyone wants an easy answer,
Speaker 3: you know, people want easy answers. They want an answer
Speaker 3: that covers a wide gamut of questions and issues that
Speaker 3: matter to them, and so that's why we keep seeing
Speaker 3: these lame discussions that they're honestly tired, they're they're overdone,
Speaker 3: and we keep seeing these discussions about trans people in sports,
Speaker 3: and it's just because people don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they don't want to or if
Speaker 4: they're just not at that point yet.
Speaker 3: It's you know, we're at that point where like, you know,
Speaker 3: we need to show people that we're all we're all different.
Speaker 3: They know we're here now, they know we're here, We've
Speaker 3: come out of the shadows. They know that we you know,
Speaker 3: deserve to like live or whatever. Will kind of in
Speaker 3: some places they do, but you know, like getting like
Speaker 3: but actually looking at us as you know, subdivisions of
Speaker 3: various trans people who make up a trans population.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a lot, Yeah, there's a lot, a
Speaker 1: lot of variety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I just want I want to say, like, honestly,
Speaker 3: the gender conversations, you know, unless we're the ones doing
Speaker 3: it like you, girls like us, you know, hush that
Speaker 3: girls like us, Unless we're the ones having those conversations
Speaker 3: on a podcast, it's just all.
Speaker 4: A part of the gender grift.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a total grift right now, that so many
Speaker 3: people are cashing in on.
Speaker 4: It's like a gold rush.
Speaker 1: You know, and it's the only thing that's made Lance
Speaker 1: Armstrong relevant. And I want to also say this show,
Speaker 1: the show that he's on, the reality show that he's on,
Speaker 1: fucking called Stars on Mars, which is like supposed to
Speaker 1: be a bunch of celebrities I've never heard of, including
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong, that are pretending to be on Mars in
Speaker 1: this reality show, and there is they're promoting a clip
Speaker 1: of him discussing his like basically doubling down on his
Speaker 1: position on the show. Adam Rippon is one of the
Speaker 1: other I do know who Adam Rippon is. He's the
Speaker 1: gay figure skater.
Speaker 4: He's one of schwarts from vander Hump Rolls is on
Speaker 4: there as well.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, he has him there. He's trying to rehab
Speaker 2: his reputation.
Speaker 1: We don't want to talk about that, but Adam Rippon,
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of people in the house challenged
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong on this stance he took on the podcast
Speaker 1: with Caitlyn Jenner, and uh, they basically told him all
Speaker 1: that they don't fuck with him anymore. They're like on
Speaker 1: the show, Yeah, they're like They're like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of Lance, and you know, like it's.
Speaker 4: Oh, I need to see that episode. I need to
Speaker 4: watch that.
Speaker 1: It comes out today.
Speaker 4: Damn di does he get royalties if we watch that?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: Probably? And like there, I feel like all of this,
Speaker 1: like I have a I'm a conspiracy theorist about this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I feel like all of this is
Speaker 1: just to boost the numbers for Lance and to boost
Speaker 1: the numbers for this fucking show.
Speaker 3: You know, I agree, because talking about trans people is
Speaker 3: the fastest way to get yourself on the front page
Speaker 3: of any website, is the fastest way to turn yourself
Speaker 3: into a trending topic, because you know, we're so polarizing,
Speaker 3: you know, even though we're humans, you know, we're so
Speaker 3: polarizing our existence and how we live our life and
Speaker 3: the things that.
Speaker 4: We go through ticket where we are.
Speaker 3: It's a polarizing thing for a lot of people because
Speaker 3: most people can't even comprehend the concept of you know,
Speaker 3: having dysphoria or just like being translated.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense to them.
Speaker 3: You know, And I get it. I kind of get
Speaker 3: it because you know, let me put it this way,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna draw I'm gonna draw a parallel for you.
Speaker 3: I was watching One thousand Pounds Sisters last.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, those girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love them.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: To tell you something, I will admit, when I first
Speaker 3: started watching the show, I didn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: empathy at first because I they were When I looked
Speaker 3: at them, I was like, they're the way they look
Speaker 3: is really foreign to me. And that was definitely like
Speaker 3: a moment of like me being like fat phobic, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Then that when I
Speaker 3: when that, when that went off in my head, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, yeah, this is how like
Speaker 3: transphobia works. Like they look at us and they're like
Speaker 3: that don't make no sense to me, Like how did
Speaker 3: we get here?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And then the other thing about it is like even
Speaker 3: when you're it doesn't matter if you pass or not,
Speaker 3: because they're still going to do that if they know
Speaker 3: your tea, they're still going to have those those thoughts
Speaker 3: in her head. So it's like, you know, we all
Speaker 3: have the potential to be a little bit prejudiced to
Speaker 3: someone just because they're unfamiliar to us. It just so
Speaker 3: happens that we're everyone's favorite target, right, now.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, because yeah, that's the time we're living on.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you know, I'm not saying I empathize with transphobes
Speaker 3: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I found myself in positions where I wasn't being the
Speaker 3: best person because I judge someone by their appearance or
Speaker 3: my perception of their lifestyle. I've had moments like that,
Speaker 3: and I just want to you know, I just think
Speaker 3: that's something that we all need to like really talk about.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm saying, like, we don't have real
Speaker 3: conversations these days. All the conversations are to drum up,
Speaker 3: used to drum up clicks, and you know, so it's
Speaker 3: good to like actually like stay here and talk to
Speaker 3: you about it, because that's the real tea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had no career before you started.
Speaker 1: Talking about us, right exactly.
Speaker 3: It's it's plain as day. It's the gender grift. Like
Speaker 3: so many people catching on are cashing into.
Speaker 2: The gender drift.
Speaker 3: So many people, Yeah, people are using it to get
Speaker 3: themselves elected to office.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, And I truly believe that will be the
Speaker 1: only way the Republicans are going to try to get
Speaker 1: into the office in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, they have no platform, so you know,
Speaker 4: it's just easy to focus on us.
Speaker 2: We're the newest well you.
Speaker 3: Know, everyone else were the newest thing on the block, right,
Speaker 3: you know, we've been here forever.
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean and yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Want to point out like a couple of last things
Speaker 1: I want to say about the like trans people in
Speaker 1: sports whatever, it is all a grift, It is all
Speaker 1: of a distraction because when you think about it, the
Speaker 1: Olympic Athletes Association settled this years ago. Many sports associations
Speaker 1: settled this thing years ago. Why is it just now
Speaker 1: being dug back up? And it's literally all about fodder
Speaker 1: for for getting people to engage and to you know,
Speaker 1: sign on with these transphobic beliefs. And the only other
Speaker 1: thing I want to say too is that, like, our
Speaker 1: bodies are such a big part of the conversation when
Speaker 1: it comes to trans people in sports and how weird
Speaker 1: and different our bodies are, but so many people tend
Speaker 1: to forget that, like male and female CISP bodies are
Speaker 1: also very very weird varied. Yes, they're very varied.
Speaker 2: Have you just weird? Does our as we are?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you ever seen men with titties that.
Speaker 3: Got everywhere everywhere day and when I'm out, no wrong,
Speaker 3: right have you seen?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And it's like and it's like humans are varied in general,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I for me, it all just
Speaker 1: looks like a grift because you're telling me that a
Speaker 1: woman as cists woman can't become stronger than than me. H,
Speaker 1: that's a fucking lie because look I.
Speaker 4: I meet Ronda Rousey and Ali she sucking me up.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, thank you, thank you me. And first of all,
Speaker 3: she's transphombing too, so she's definitely gonna wunk me up.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to try our best to fuck her up.
Speaker 2: We have to get a crew because.
Speaker 1: The time is that bitch has been punched in the face.
Speaker 1: She's going to need f FS by the time she.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I mean listen, And that's the other thing,
Speaker 3: Like a lot of I've seen some woman with braw
Speaker 3: bones like Easter Island datues, you know, so like it's
Speaker 3: really like, you know, what's really going on. People come
Speaker 3: in alls and sizes. It's just easy to escapegoat a
Speaker 3: poorly understood group people for a gain. And you know,
Speaker 3: we're just you know, this this the time that we're in.
Speaker 3: It's all about engagement amplification, and you know, this is
Speaker 3: just what people are resonating with because you know, for
Speaker 3: better or worse, you know, society, I guess in general
Speaker 3: and not and I want to I don't want to
Speaker 3: be specific like here, like I want to say, like
Speaker 3: Western society is kind of like grab with a debate
Speaker 3: that they've never had.
Speaker 2: To have before.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to remember like even when the
Speaker 3: gays were marching for their rights during you know, Stone
Speaker 3: after stone wall, postone Wall, they you know, we we
Speaker 3: were not welcomed in their activism, their their activist spaces.
Speaker 1: So or even in their in their gay spaces that
Speaker 1: weren't yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And you'll see, like you know, there's videos like if
Speaker 3: for anyone listening, if you've never heard of Sylvia Rivera,
Speaker 3: please google her. She has a very famous speech called
Speaker 3: y'all bet or quiet down now. And in that speech,
Speaker 3: she's addressing a large group of gay men who are
Speaker 3: marching for their rights and for you know, you know, equality,
Speaker 3: and she's like, y'all, I'm not going to cast me
Speaker 3: out of this, like I fought for y'all, I you know,
Speaker 3: you're not going to exclude me. And that has been
Speaker 3: the narrative for such a long time. You know, we
Speaker 3: because it's like we got to gay marriage, we got
Speaker 3: all this stuff right, but trans people were never it
Speaker 3: was always like station.
Speaker 1: It was always like we'll get to you later, you know.
Speaker 3: And I've talked about this before in some of my writing.
Speaker 3: When I worked for Woosy.
Speaker 4: You know, the hrc.
Speaker 3: Knew that bathroom laws were going to be the next
Speaker 3: like you know assault, like writing assault to LGBTQ people.
Speaker 3: But they thought that the trade off of pushing gay
Speaker 3: marriage through you know, trumped for lack of a better term,
Speaker 3: you know, any need to pursue like trans equality initiatives.
Speaker 3: So you know, just saying that, you know, just like
Speaker 3: think about that. Like our major advocacy group, the biggest
Speaker 3: advocate degree that we have for lgbtq QQ rights in America,
Speaker 3: literally saw the signs and ignored them. Now I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that they were the only like arbiters of like
Speaker 3: our safety and they were like they were like the
Speaker 3: main but they're the front line that they're the money, right,
Speaker 3: They're the money gays, They're the games of the money
Speaker 3: and money talks and like they could have like lobbied
Speaker 3: against those rules, those those laws and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But it's like now it's almost like because they let it,
Speaker 3: because it's gotten so big, it's grown so much. It's
Speaker 3: like HRC and their funding is not enough. Now you need,
Speaker 3: you know, empathy to come from like the highest levels
Speaker 3: of our society in order for people to see that
Speaker 3: we actually deserve to be here. So you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of people have let us down up until this point,
Speaker 3: and that's why we're here right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you're going to give, you know, money
Speaker 1: to the HRC or other big LGBT organizations like that,
Speaker 1: think about maybe giving your money to a trans led
Speaker 1: organization that specifically centers the needs of trans people. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is more important now than ever. I think trans.
Speaker 4: Travel find y'all can donate to trans Travel FUD.
Speaker 1: Trans Atlanta Atlanta Housing.
Speaker 4: Atlanta, Transland Transhouses.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you also don't need to you know, like
Speaker 3: the Transgender Like Legal Center. I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: what it's called, but you know, like, you know, there
Speaker 3: are places that have trans leadership destination tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Also, we've had them on the showy.
Speaker 4: Song Southerners on new ground. Shout out to them. They
Speaker 4: do a lot of good work, and not just for
Speaker 4: trans people.
Speaker 3: They do a lot of good work, you know when
Speaker 3: it comes to like like you know, radical initiatives like
Speaker 3: ending money bail, which you know they did accomplish under
Speaker 3: Keisha line spots, and I think it got uh reverse
Speaker 3: under this new guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Real but yeah, you know, like these these motherfuckers got
Speaker 3: making so much money talking about us, you know, and
Speaker 3: they don't know anything.
Speaker 1: About us, you know what I'm saying, And they're fucking
Speaker 1: cheating themselves, so like what the fuck? You know?
Speaker 3: And you know, honestly, I wouldn't even say it's it's
Speaker 3: a vicious cycle too, because they say this ship and
Speaker 3: then anyone no offense.
Speaker 2: You know, Like we're sitting here.
Speaker 3: Talking about it, you know, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: because it's unfortunately it's newsworthy, right yeah, you know ya.
Speaker 2: But we also when we.
Speaker 3: Talk about it, we were able to kind of like
Speaker 3: break him down like bit by bit and really exposed
Speaker 3: like the arguments for like what they are. So you know,
Speaker 3: on top of that shit, girl, you know, every time
Speaker 3: something like this comes out, you know, you got to
Speaker 3: you gotta be out there because me, like, you know,
Speaker 3: this is the real team.
Speaker 1: Right, because I think it's all about like it's always scapegoating.
Speaker 1: So what follow the money, follow the whatever, follow the money,
Speaker 1: you know, just like look at like why these people
Speaker 1: are trying to get the attention that they are, and
Speaker 1: it's really just because Lance wants to make himself relevant again,
Speaker 1: you know. All right, listeners, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break. That's it for all why we fucking hate
Speaker 1: it here. When we come back, we're going to celebrate
Speaker 1: some good news going on in Zada's life and the
Speaker 1: let celebrate that segment, all right, listeners, and we're back
Speaker 1: sat to tell us all about your new EP, boy
Speaker 1: Eyes that that just came out and your tour of
Speaker 1: Europe that you just went.
Speaker 3: Okay, awesome. So yeah, first of all, thanks for asking.
Speaker 3: You know, I worked on that project for about a
Speaker 3: year and I really earned it. I learned so much
Speaker 3: about production mastering all of that, and I feel like
Speaker 3: after that project was released, I crossed over from just
Speaker 3: being like a person who DJs really well and gets
Speaker 3: asked to DJ in places, you know, to a bona
Speaker 3: fide artist.
Speaker 4: So It's been nice to see people.
Speaker 3: Resonating with my work, you know, like the music is
Speaker 3: not just like sitting there, like it's actually getting like played,
Speaker 3: which is nice. Know I get played more like in
Speaker 3: the UK than I do and you know in America
Speaker 3: because it's a very underground sound, which is fine, you
Speaker 3: know whatever. But I am like kind of iterating on
Speaker 3: the things that I put on that last project, and
Speaker 3: we're moving in a direction. I think that it's going
Speaker 3: to see more actual like vocals, lyricism and all of that.
Speaker 3: You know, it may or may not be me, but
Speaker 3: you know it may be someone else, you know, but
Speaker 3: I'm heading it in that direction where I'm trying to,
Speaker 3: you know, just give a little bit more because like
Speaker 3: you know, I'm always telling people this, you know, like
Speaker 3: the electronic music world, it's so funny, like it started.
Speaker 3: It was started by black and queer people, and we
Speaker 3: don't own it anymore. Yeah, you know, we don't own
Speaker 3: that space anymore. And that's fine. You know, it's grown
Speaker 3: a lot and it's super diverse and it's here to stay.
Speaker 3: But I really really feel like I have a responsibility
Speaker 3: to kind of stake my aim as a black trans
Speaker 3: woman and E. D M. Because you know, there's Honey Dejeon,
Speaker 3: but there's not a lot of us, and there should
Speaker 3: be a lot of us, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not the kind of person that's like
Speaker 3: we need at least like one or two trans people.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I would I want us in every single
Speaker 3: space and I want to you know, I don't.
Speaker 4: I want us doing everything.
Speaker 3: Yes, So you know like that that if you really
Speaker 3: like showed me, like you know, you work on something
Speaker 3: really hard, you put it out there and like, honestly,
Speaker 3: my fan base is mostly like trans people and like
Speaker 3: queer people and gay men, which I love.
Speaker 2: I'm here for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually just did a trans.
Speaker 4: Party in New York City called body Hack.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 4: Like nowadays in New York and it was nowadays is like.
Speaker 1: I want to go there. I want to go girl.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honestly incredible. But I did make a joke
Speaker 3: when I was there. Have you ever been to Musa shows?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Where is that isn't Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I've never been there.
Speaker 3: On the I made a joke that it was like
Speaker 3: a big muchacha and then like that it's like a
Speaker 3: huge like beer garden.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: But then they also have this like crazy dance floor.
Speaker 3: It's like a small it's relatively small dance floor. But
Speaker 3: the sound was designed by the same The sound was
Speaker 3: designed by an apprentice of the man who engineered the
Speaker 3: sound for Paradise Garage. So it's like the spiritual successor
Speaker 3: to Paradise Garage. And if you don't, if it were
Speaker 3: any listeners who don't know about Paradise Garage, look it up.
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's like the birthplace of like disco
Speaker 3: and a house and all of that stuff, and it
Speaker 3: you know, it's a it's a face that black queer
Speaker 3: people really like made, you know, you know, something for themselves.
Speaker 3: So I really looked that up, if we all and
Speaker 3: so yeah, to get to get to play and nowadays
Speaker 3: it just felt so right, yeah, you know, and the
Speaker 3: crowd was amazing and they were there for me, which
Speaker 3: is crazy. So you know, like they're people there who like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a huge fan of yours. It's like
Speaker 3: so nice to like have you here. I'm really on
Speaker 3: and it's just like wild to me, Like this music
Speaker 3: is like resonating and I'm glad it is because even
Speaker 3: though a lot of the tracks don't have words, they
Speaker 3: still screen tranny and yeah, you know, so I'm just
Speaker 3: glad that it's like it's hitting out there. And I
Speaker 3: have some more projects in the works right now. I
Speaker 3: already got a few demos, like signed by the label
Speaker 3: that represents me right now, which is Night Slugs.
Speaker 2: I have to have a single coming.
Speaker 3: Out on a compilation with a new label called Classical Records,
Speaker 3: which is really making waves in the underground music scene,
Speaker 3: especially like in New York and London, like they're really
Speaker 3: killing it right now. And so, you know, it's a slow,
Speaker 3: steady climb to something amazing. I don't know what it
Speaker 3: is on the other side, but I'm just excited to
Speaker 3: keep going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm so fucking proud of you. You've
Speaker 1: you've been in publication recently, You've been going to Berlin,
Speaker 1: You've been all over the world. People know you all
Speaker 1: over the world. I'm very very proud of you. And
Speaker 1: to just know have known you for this long and
Speaker 1: to just see your journey, I'm amazed, so thank you.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even have to go on drag race.
Speaker 1: No, you didn't even have to go on fucking drag race,
Speaker 1: thank god, because we'd never hear from you again.
Speaker 4: You know, honestly, drag was never for me anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh well that's what I wanted to actually ask. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you aren't doing drag again, missus Cayenne Rouge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been doing it, but like I don't even
Speaker 3: know why girl, Like you know, listen, a lot of
Speaker 3: the young trans girls love doing drag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just like they love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well because it's more visible now, I think
Speaker 1: I would have been into it. I think if I
Speaker 1: knew that trans girls were doing it, but I used
Speaker 1: to think, you that's like bagshit exactly.
Speaker 3: But you know, the girls were doing it, but they
Speaker 3: were doing it with a lot of bullshit being thrown
Speaker 3: at them.
Speaker 1: Yes, I I wasn't aware, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's you were starfish. She wasn't aware.
Speaker 4: I was just like she's like, I'm a sis woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, you know, like even when I did
Speaker 3: it back in the day, when I was doing it
Speaker 3: as like my main source of revenue or i'm sorry income,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, it really wasn't like
Speaker 3: a safe space for like the trans girls, like you
Speaker 3: could be in there and like, you know, you would
Speaker 3: probably be the most sickly invention in the building, but
Speaker 3: you know, the girls would say anything to you. So
Speaker 3: for a while I kind of just got over it,
Speaker 3: you know, like I was like, I'm different from y'all.
Speaker 2: Right, I need to see this to remind.
Speaker 4: Myself that I'm different from y'all.
Speaker 3: So it is honestly insane because I told myself I
Speaker 3: would never really do dragging in, but I started missing it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, just like I started missing it because I
Speaker 3: kept seeing, you know, I was going to some shows
Speaker 3: and I was noticing the girls, the girls, but I
Speaker 3: was noticing that because I.
Speaker 4: I just feel like they could give a little.
Speaker 1: Bit more and you're going to show them how to do.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you know, and so I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, I think I still got it. And I
Speaker 3: was asked to do it twice once won by my
Speaker 3: younger she's like a younger girl. I don't have daughters.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not a mother, more of an auntie.
Speaker 1: I guess I love that.
Speaker 4: I think you transmitd me to do so much shit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't really want to do that now.
Speaker 1: Auntie is better Auntie is way better.
Speaker 3: So my niece she asked me to do it and
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, girl, I'll do it just for you.
Speaker 3: And then an old friend, Elise source Fas, asked me
Speaker 3: to do it as well, and just because you know,
Speaker 3: people just wanted they just wanted the pleasure of me
Speaker 3: being there. And it was honestly great, Like I made
Speaker 3: so much money off of like one song I've only done,
Speaker 3: Like I've done the same song both times, and the
Speaker 3: song is like only three minute song, and each time
Speaker 3: I walked away with like a good bit of coin.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I love that they're so ready for miss Cayne
Speaker 1: Rouge to be bad.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I want to come out and see you the next
Speaker 1: time I fucking leave my house.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a lot to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Yes, there is, all of your accomplishments and just you're
Speaker 1: I mean, girl, you're fucking doing so well for yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, And honestly, girl, you want to
Speaker 3: you know something I've noticed, I now know two.
Speaker 4: Other black trans women who are now homeowners.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, listen, things might seem a little
Speaker 3: shitty right now because so many people are talking about
Speaker 3: us and they're saying horrible things about us. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: the reality is different. The world is changing. You know,
Speaker 3: a trans owning property is like an inconceivable It was inconceivable.
Speaker 1: Right and nineties even absolutely, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know, even in the early two thousands, I would say,
Speaker 3: you know, even then it was still hard to find
Speaker 3: housing if you were trans. You know, I would say,
Speaker 3: like maybe ten years ago things really turned around for us,
Speaker 3: would you.
Speaker 1: Agree, Yeah, yeah, But then you know recently I'm like, well, fuck,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened on Well, you know, it's yeah.
Speaker 2: That's see, but that's all taught.
Speaker 4: That's these people are just talking their passing laws that
Speaker 4: no one's really.
Speaker 1: Get it really is. Yeah, yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 2: There's workarounds for everything. Like you know, everyone's like.
Speaker 3: Freaking about, freaking out about the Supreme Court decisions on
Speaker 3: this and that and the third and you just have
Speaker 3: to remember that, like communities do more for each other.
Speaker 4: Than any government can do for their own people.
Speaker 2: And that's just the truth.
Speaker 3: You know, Mutual aid workarounds to you know, getting around
Speaker 3: these like crappy laws like ending it firm ad action.
Speaker 3: There's a workaround for that, right, you know, and you
Speaker 3: just have to think about, you know what these people
Speaker 3: are really fighting against and just remind you of like
Speaker 3: you're a trans girl. Okay, you found a way around
Speaker 3: all the barriers before.
Speaker 2: You just gonna have to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna figure it out. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: We play the game of life on expert mode.
Speaker 1: Absolutely on expert Yes. Yeah. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here. I'm so proud of you,
Speaker 1: so proud of all your accomplishments recently. Great job. Music
Speaker 1: has been amazing. I can't wait for more. And Zata,
Speaker 1: just tell everyone where they can find you and follow you.
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Speaker 2: On all streaming platforms.
Speaker 3: I'm even on Pandora Baby period. So I'm on Pandora,
Speaker 3: last FM, I'm on Apple Music, I.
Speaker 1: Have radio, Yeah, radio, I'm.
Speaker 4: On them all.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna we gotta get distribution to and
Speaker 3: so if you want to listen to me you can.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that, and be sure listeners to
Speaker 1: tune in to our full length episode this Wednesday. We're
Speaker 1: going to be talking with a legendary trans trailblazer, prolific
Speaker 1: writer and transactivist, Dallas Denny, so tune in for that
Speaker 1: and have a great beginning of your week