WEBVTT - Minisode 11: Zaida Zane is BACK!!!

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<v Speaker 1>I got to come see the new house.

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't been here?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I have agoraphobia. I never leave the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a training that's like

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<v Speaker 3>so that's like all the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, beauties, Welcome to another Beauty Translated minisode. Minisode number

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<v Speaker 1>eleven to be exact. This time, I'm joined by past

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<v Speaker 1>guest and friend Zeta Zane. Welcome back, Zada, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being here. How have you been. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing well. I've just been here in my closet

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<v Speaker 1>recording podcasts with a puppy. But how have you been miss?

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<v Speaker 4>I actually got a new puppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, introduce us.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome precious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that looks like my sunny, except my sunny is

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<v Speaker 1>like the apricot color.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a Barnado.

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<v Speaker 1>Berniese mountain dog and a doodle. We need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a puppy day.

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<v Speaker 4>So that'd be so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're gonna catch up with Zeta and all of

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<v Speaker 1>her excellent news and are let's celebrate that segment. But

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<v Speaker 1>first we're gonna talk about why we fucking hate it here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why we fucking hate it here? So I have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things I wanted to discuss versus like this

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing thing with like Lance Armstrong and Caitlin Jenner.

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<v Speaker 2>What are what are those two men saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? What do they have to say? Well, the men

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<v Speaker 1>while the men are talking talking, So yeah, they think

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<v Speaker 1>that trans people should not participate in in gendered sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I had this whole thing, I had, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago, they recorded a podcast together and they

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<v Speaker 1>have of course together, Lance Armstrong and Kaitlyn Jenner are

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that they're going to fucking talk about

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<v Speaker 1>is trans people in sports. And of course, Lance Armstrong's take,

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<v Speaker 1>many people were surprised to learn, was that he feels

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<v Speaker 1>that trans people should have their own category of sports

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<v Speaker 1>and should not be able to participate in engendered sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And Caitlyn Jenner agrees with him, of course, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just I find it funny and ironic because Caitlyn Jenner

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<v Speaker 1>is a tranny who plays golf in the Women's Golfing

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<v Speaker 1>League and Lance Armstrong is most famous for cheating and

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<v Speaker 1>in his sport and only having one testicle. So like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that tea is a little low, Mama, The

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<v Speaker 1>tea levels are low.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get it? Can we get a look at

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<v Speaker 1>his levels.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you how I feel about these conversations. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>the trans people in sports conversations are just bait. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's really all it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's bait.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's the easiest way to generate engagement these days

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<v Speaker 3>to be a SIS person or even a white late transitioner.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who it's, mam. But you know it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Really easy to generate engagement when you talk about things

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<v Speaker 3>that quite frankly, you don't know enough about. And even

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<v Speaker 3>more so than that, these conversations are so they're invalid

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<v Speaker 3>because they like from the jump, because they assume that

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<v Speaker 3>we're all the same, they all trans people are the same,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're just we're absolutely not. You know, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not someone who wants to participate in sports. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really see that for myself. This doesn't really fit my fantasy,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not that type of girl.

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<v Speaker 4>We have another kind of girl.

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<v Speaker 3>But honestly, if you really think about a carbon if

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<v Speaker 3>I was Caitlin Jenner and I was that bricky and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, old, and I said I really transitioned that late,

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<v Speaker 3>I too would think that no trans people deserve to

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<v Speaker 3>be in sports. But that's the thing, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one thing that these conversations lack is nuanced. And you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>life is not about black and white answers, even if

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<v Speaker 3>it hurts your feelings.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's the truth of the matter.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not about to get like Joe Rogan on it

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<v Speaker 3>of right, you know, or anything like that, But I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>like there are moments there are people that have literally

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<v Speaker 3>been on hormones or blockers since they were kids, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like their biology is so

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<v Speaker 3>similar to like the a natal person of their gender.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so those people, like, you know, like there are.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like versus somebody who started when they were fifty or.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you know, exactly, And like that's the thing people

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand, Like we're all so people are all so

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<v Speaker 3>different across the board, and you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>this ship if we're got to be real about it's

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<v Speaker 3>a case by case basis. I mean, I'm like that's

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<v Speaker 3>the realty, you know. Like everyone wants an easy answer,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people want easy answers. They want an answer

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<v Speaker 3>that covers a wide gamut of questions and issues that

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<v Speaker 3>matter to them, and so that's why we keep seeing

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<v Speaker 3>these lame discussions that they're honestly tired, they're they're overdone,

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<v Speaker 3>and we keep seeing these discussions about trans people in sports,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just because people don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if they don't want to or if

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<v Speaker 4>they're just not at that point yet.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, we're at that point where like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to show people that we're all we're all different.

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<v Speaker 3>They know we're here now, they know we're here, We've

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<v Speaker 3>come out of the shadows. They know that we you know,

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<v Speaker 3>deserve to like live or whatever. Will kind of in

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<v Speaker 3>some places they do, but you know, like getting like

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<v Speaker 3>but actually looking at us as you know, subdivisions of

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<v Speaker 3>various trans people who make up a trans population.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's a lot, Yeah, there's a lot, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of variety.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I just want I want to say, like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>the gender conversations, you know, unless we're the ones doing

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<v Speaker 3>it like you, girls like us, you know, hush that

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<v Speaker 3>girls like us, Unless we're the ones having those conversations

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<v Speaker 3>on a podcast, it's just all.

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<v Speaker 4>A part of the gender grift.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's a total grift right now, that so many

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<v Speaker 3>people are cashing in on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a gold rush.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and it's the only thing that's made Lance

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong relevant. And I want to also say this show,

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<v Speaker 1>the show that he's on, the reality show that he's on,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking called Stars on Mars, which is like supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bunch of celebrities I've never heard of, including

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<v Speaker 1>Lance Armstrong, that are pretending to be on Mars in

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<v Speaker 1>this reality show, and there is they're promoting a clip

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<v Speaker 1>of him discussing his like basically doubling down on his

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<v Speaker 1>position on the show. Adam Rippon is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>other I do know who Adam Rippon is. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>gay figure skater.

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<v Speaker 4>He's one of schwarts from vander Hump Rolls is on

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<v Speaker 4>there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, he has him there. He's trying to rehab

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<v Speaker 2>his reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to talk about that, but Adam Rippon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a bunch of people in the house challenged

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<v Speaker 1>Lance Armstrong on this stance he took on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with Caitlyn Jenner, and uh, they basically told him all

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't fuck with him anymore. They're like on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Yeah, they're like They're like, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of Lance, and you know, like it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I need to see that episode. I need to

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<v Speaker 4>watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes out today.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn di does he get royalties if we watch that?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably? And like there, I feel like all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a I'm a conspiracy theorist about this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. I feel like all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>just to boost the numbers for Lance and to boost

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers for this fucking show.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I agree, because talking about trans people is

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<v Speaker 3>the fastest way to get yourself on the front page

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<v Speaker 3>of any website, is the fastest way to turn yourself

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<v Speaker 3>into a trending topic, because you know, we're so polarizing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, even though we're humans, you know, we're so

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<v Speaker 3>polarizing our existence and how we live our life and

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<v Speaker 3>the things that.

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<v Speaker 4>We go through ticket where we are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a polarizing thing for a lot of people because

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<v Speaker 3>most people can't even comprehend the concept of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>having dysphoria or just like being translated.

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't make sense to them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, And I get it. I kind of get

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<v Speaker 3>it because you know, let me put it this way,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna draw I'm gonna draw a parallel for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching One thousand Pounds Sisters last.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, those girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>To tell you something, I will admit, when I first

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<v Speaker 3>started watching the show, I didn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>empathy at first because I they were When I looked

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<v Speaker 3>at them, I was like, they're the way they look

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<v Speaker 3>is really foreign to me. And that was definitely like

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<v Speaker 3>a moment of like me being like fat phobic, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Then that when I

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<v Speaker 3>when that, when that went off in my head, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, yeah, this is how like

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<v Speaker 3>transphobia works. Like they look at us and they're like

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<v Speaker 3>that don't make no sense to me, Like how did

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<v Speaker 3>we get here?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other thing about it is like even

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<v Speaker 3>when you're it doesn't matter if you pass or not,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're still going to do that if they know

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<v Speaker 3>your tea, they're still going to have those those thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>in her head. So it's like, you know, we all

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<v Speaker 3>have the potential to be a little bit prejudiced to

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<v Speaker 3>someone just because they're unfamiliar to us. It just so

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<v Speaker 3>happens that we're everyone's favorite target, right, now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, because yeah, that's the time we're living on.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, you know, I'm not saying I empathize with transphobes

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I found myself in positions where I wasn't being the

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<v Speaker 3>best person because I judge someone by their appearance or

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<v Speaker 3>my perception of their lifestyle. I've had moments like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just want to you know, I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that we all need to like really talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm saying, like, we don't have real

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<v Speaker 3>conversations these days. All the conversations are to drum up,

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<v Speaker 3>used to drum up clicks, and you know, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>good to like actually like stay here and talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you about it, because that's the real tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had no career before you started.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about us, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's plain as day. It's the gender grift. Like

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<v Speaker 3>so many people catching on are cashing into.

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<v Speaker 2>The gender drift.

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<v Speaker 3>So many people, Yeah, people are using it to get

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<v Speaker 3>themselves elected to office.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, And I truly believe that will be the

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<v Speaker 1>only way the Republicans are going to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the office in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, they have no platform, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just easy to focus on us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the newest well you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, everyone else were the newest thing on the block, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we've been here forever.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I mean and yeah, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to point out like a couple of last things

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say about the like trans people in

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<v Speaker 1>sports whatever, it is all a grift, It is all

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<v Speaker 1>of a distraction because when you think about it, the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Athletes Association settled this years ago. Many sports associations

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<v Speaker 1>settled this thing years ago. Why is it just now

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<v Speaker 1>being dug back up? And it's literally all about fodder

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<v Speaker 1>for for getting people to engage and to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sign on with these transphobic beliefs. And the only other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want to say too is that, like, our

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<v Speaker 1>bodies are such a big part of the conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to trans people in sports and how weird

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<v Speaker 1>and different our bodies are, but so many people tend

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<v Speaker 1>to forget that, like male and female CISP bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>also very very weird varied. Yes, they're very varied.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you just weird? Does our as we are?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Have you ever seen men with titties that.

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<v Speaker 3>Got everywhere everywhere day and when I'm out, no wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>right have you seen?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like and it's like humans are varied in general,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and so I for me, it all just

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a grift because you're telling me that a

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<v Speaker 1>woman as cists woman can't become stronger than than me. H,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fucking lie because look I.

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<v Speaker 4>I meet Ronda Rousey and Ali she sucking me up.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello, thank you, thank you me. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>she's transphombing too, so she's definitely gonna wunk me up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to try our best to fuck her up.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to get a crew because.

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<v Speaker 1>The time is that bitch has been punched in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to need f FS by the time she.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, I mean listen, And that's the other thing,

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<v Speaker 3>Like a lot of I've seen some woman with braw

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<v Speaker 3>bones like Easter Island datues, you know, so like it's

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<v Speaker 3>really like, you know, what's really going on. People come

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<v Speaker 3>in alls and sizes. It's just easy to escapegoat a

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<v Speaker 3>poorly understood group people for a gain. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just you know, this this the time that we're in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about engagement amplification, and you know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>just what people are resonating with because you know, for

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<v Speaker 3>better or worse, you know, society, I guess in general

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<v Speaker 3>and not and I want to I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be specific like here, like I want to say, like

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<v Speaker 3>Western society is kind of like grab with a debate

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<v Speaker 3>that they've never had.

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<v Speaker 2>To have before.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you have to remember like even when the

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<v Speaker 3>gays were marching for their rights during you know, Stone

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<v Speaker 3>after stone wall, postone Wall, they you know, we we

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<v Speaker 3>were not welcomed in their activism, their their activist spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>So or even in their in their gay spaces that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And you'll see, like you know, there's videos like if

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<v Speaker 3>for anyone listening, if you've never heard of Sylvia Rivera,

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<v Speaker 3>please google her. She has a very famous speech called

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<v Speaker 3>y'all bet or quiet down now. And in that speech,

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<v Speaker 3>she's addressing a large group of gay men who are

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<v Speaker 3>marching for their rights and for you know, you know, equality,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like, y'all, I'm not going to cast me

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<v Speaker 3>out of this, like I fought for y'all, I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to exclude me. And that has been

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<v Speaker 3>the narrative for such a long time. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like we got to gay marriage, we got

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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff right, but trans people were never it

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<v Speaker 3>was always like station.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always like we'll get to you later, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've talked about this before in some of my writing.

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<v Speaker 3>When I worked for Woosy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the hrc.

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<v Speaker 3>Knew that bathroom laws were going to be the next

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<v Speaker 3>like you know assault, like writing assault to LGBTQ people.

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<v Speaker 3>But they thought that the trade off of pushing gay

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<v Speaker 3>marriage through you know, trumped for lack of a better term,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, any need to pursue like trans equality initiatives.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, just saying that, you know, just like

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<v Speaker 3>think about that. Like our major advocacy group, the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>advocate degree that we have for lgbtq QQ rights in America,

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<v Speaker 3>literally saw the signs and ignored them. Now I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying that they were the only like arbiters of like

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<v Speaker 3>our safety and they were like they were like the

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<v Speaker 3>main but they're the front line that they're the money, right,

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<v Speaker 3>They're the money gays, They're the games of the money

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<v Speaker 3>and money talks and like they could have like lobbied

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<v Speaker 3>against those rules, those those laws and all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like now it's almost like because they let it,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's gotten so big, it's grown so much. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like HRC and their funding is not enough. Now you need,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, empathy to come from like the highest levels

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<v Speaker 3>of our society in order for people to see that

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<v Speaker 3>we actually deserve to be here. So you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people have let us down up until this point,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why we're here right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And if you're going to give, you know, money

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<v Speaker 1>to the HRC or other big LGBT organizations like that,

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<v Speaker 1>think about maybe giving your money to a trans led

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<v Speaker 1>organization that specifically centers the needs of trans people. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is more important now than ever. I think trans.

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<v Speaker 4>Travel find y'all can donate to trans Travel FUD.

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<v Speaker 1>Trans Atlanta Atlanta Housing.

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta, Transland Transhouses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and you also don't need to you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the Transgender Like Legal Center. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it's called, but you know, like, you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>are places that have trans leadership destination tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, we've had them on the showy.

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<v Speaker 4>Song Southerners on new ground. Shout out to them. They

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<v Speaker 4>do a lot of good work, and not just for

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<v Speaker 4>trans people.

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<v Speaker 3>They do a lot of good work, you know when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to like like you know, radical initiatives like

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<v Speaker 3>ending money bail, which you know they did accomplish under

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<v Speaker 3>Keisha line spots, and I think it got uh reverse

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<v Speaker 3>under this new guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Real but yeah, you know, like these these motherfuckers got

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<v Speaker 3>making so much money talking about us, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>About us, you know what I'm saying, And they're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>cheating themselves, so like what the fuck? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, honestly, I wouldn't even say it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a vicious cycle too, because they say this ship and

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<v Speaker 3>then anyone no offense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like we're sitting here.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about it, you know, you know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>because it's unfortunately it's newsworthy, right yeah, you know ya.

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<v Speaker 2>But we also when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about it, we were able to kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>break him down like bit by bit and really exposed

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<v Speaker 3>like the arguments for like what they are. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on top of that shit, girl, you know, every time

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<v Speaker 3>something like this comes out, you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta be out there because me, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the real team.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because I think it's all about like it's always scapegoating.

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<v Speaker 1>So what follow the money, follow the whatever, follow the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just like look at like why these people

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to get the attention that they are, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really just because Lance wants to make himself relevant again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. All right, listeners, we're going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. That's it for all why we fucking hate

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<v Speaker 1>it here. When we come back, we're going to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>some good news going on in Zada's life and the

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<v Speaker 1>let celebrate that segment, all right, listeners, and we're back

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<v Speaker 1>sat to tell us all about your new EP, boy

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes that that just came out and your tour of

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<v Speaker 1>Europe that you just went.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, awesome. So yeah, first of all, thanks for asking.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I worked on that project for about a

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<v Speaker 3>year and I really earned it. I learned so much

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<v Speaker 3>about production mastering all of that, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>after that project was released, I crossed over from just

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<v Speaker 3>being like a person who DJs really well and gets

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<v Speaker 3>asked to DJ in places, you know, to a bona

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<v Speaker 3>fide artist.

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<v Speaker 4>So It's been nice to see people.

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<v Speaker 3>Resonating with my work, you know, like the music is

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<v Speaker 3>not just like sitting there, like it's actually getting like played,

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<v Speaker 3>which is nice. Know I get played more like in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK than I do and you know in America

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a very underground sound, which is fine, you

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<v Speaker 3>know whatever. But I am like kind of iterating on

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<v Speaker 3>the things that I put on that last project, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're moving in a direction. I think that it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to see more actual like vocals, lyricism and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it may or may not be me, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know it may be someone else, you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm heading it in that direction where I'm trying to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just give a little bit more because like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm always telling people this, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the electronic music world, it's so funny, like it started.

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<v Speaker 3>It was started by black and queer people, and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't own it anymore. Yeah, you know, we don't own

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<v Speaker 3>that space anymore. And that's fine. You know, it's grown

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<v Speaker 3>a lot and it's super diverse and it's here to stay.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really really feel like I have a responsibility

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of stake my aim as a black trans

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<v Speaker 3>woman and E. D M. Because you know, there's Honey Dejeon,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's not a lot of us, and there should

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot of us, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not the kind of person that's like

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<v Speaker 3>we need at least like one or two trans people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I would I want us in every single

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<v Speaker 3>space and I want to you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I want us doing everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So you know like that that if you really

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<v Speaker 3>like showed me, like you know, you work on something

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<v Speaker 3>really hard, you put it out there and like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>my fan base is mostly like trans people and like

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<v Speaker 3>queer people and gay men, which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually just did a trans.

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<v Speaker 4>Party in New York City called body Hack.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like nowadays in New York and it was nowadays is like.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go there. I want to go girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been hearing about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's honestly incredible. But I did make a joke

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<v Speaker 3>when I was there. Have you ever been to Musa shows?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is that isn't Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I've never been there.

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<v Speaker 3>On the I made a joke that it was like

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<v Speaker 3>a big muchacha and then like that it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>huge like beer garden.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>But then they also have this like crazy dance floor.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a small it's relatively small dance floor. But

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<v Speaker 3>the sound was designed by the same The sound was

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<v Speaker 3>designed by an apprentice of the man who engineered the

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<v Speaker 3>sound for Paradise Garage. So it's like the spiritual successor

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<v Speaker 3>to Paradise Garage. And if you don't, if it were

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<v Speaker 3>any listeners who don't know about Paradise Garage, look it up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of it's like the birthplace of like disco

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<v Speaker 3>and a house and all of that stuff, and it

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a it's a face that black queer

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<v Speaker 3>people really like made, you know, you know, something for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really looked that up, if we all and

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, to get to get to play and nowadays

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<v Speaker 3>it just felt so right, yeah, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd was amazing and they were there for me, which

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<v Speaker 3>is crazy. So you know, like they're people there who like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm a huge fan of yours. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>so nice to like have you here. I'm really on

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just like wild to me, Like this music

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<v Speaker 3>is like resonating and I'm glad it is because even

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<v Speaker 3>though a lot of the tracks don't have words, they

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<v Speaker 3>still screen tranny and yeah, you know, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>glad that it's like it's hitting out there. And I

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<v Speaker 3>have some more projects in the works right now. I

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<v Speaker 3>already got a few demos, like signed by the label

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<v Speaker 3>that represents me right now, which is Night Slugs.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to have a single coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Out on a compilation with a new label called Classical Records,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really making waves in the underground music scene,

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<v Speaker 3>especially like in New York and London, like they're really

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<v Speaker 3>killing it right now. And so, you know, it's a slow,

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<v Speaker 3>steady climb to something amazing. I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 3>is on the other side, but I'm just excited to

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<v Speaker 3>keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I'm so fucking proud of you. You've

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in publication recently, You've been going to Berlin,

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<v Speaker 1>You've been all over the world. People know you all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. I'm very very proud of you. And

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<v Speaker 1>to just know have known you for this long and

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<v Speaker 1>to just see your journey, I'm amazed, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't even have to go on drag race.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you didn't even have to go on fucking drag race,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, because we'd never hear from you again.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, honestly, drag was never for me anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well that's what I wanted to actually ask. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry you aren't doing drag again, missus Cayenne Rouge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been doing it, but like I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know why girl, Like you know, listen, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the young trans girls love doing drag.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just like they love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, well because it's more visible now, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been into it. I think if I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that trans girls were doing it, but I used

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<v Speaker 1>to think, you that's like bagshit exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, the girls were doing it, but they

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<v Speaker 3>were doing it with a lot of bullshit being thrown

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<v Speaker 3>at them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I I wasn't aware, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that's you were starfish. She wasn't aware.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like she's like, I'm a sis woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, you know, like even when I did

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<v Speaker 3>it back in the day, when I was doing it

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<v Speaker 3>as like my main source of revenue or i'm sorry income,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call it, it really wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>a safe space for like the trans girls, like you

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<v Speaker 3>could be in there and like, you know, you would

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<v Speaker 3>probably be the most sickly invention in the building, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the girls would say anything to you. So

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<v Speaker 3>for a while I kind of just got over it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like I was like, I'm different from y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I need to see this to remind.

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<v Speaker 4>Myself that I'm different from y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is honestly insane because I told myself I

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<v Speaker 3>would never really do dragging in, but I started missing it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just like I started missing it because I

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<v Speaker 3>kept seeing, you know, I was going to some shows

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<v Speaker 3>and I was noticing the girls, the girls, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was noticing that because I.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like they could give a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit more and you're going to show them how to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and you know, and so I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think I still got it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was asked to do it twice once won by my

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<v Speaker 3>younger she's like a younger girl. I don't have daughters.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm not a mother, more of an auntie.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you transmitd me to do so much shit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really want to do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Auntie is better Auntie is way better.

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<v Speaker 3>So my niece she asked me to do it and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, girl, I'll do it just for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then an old friend, Elise source Fas, asked me

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<v Speaker 3>to do it as well, and just because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people just wanted they just wanted the pleasure of me

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<v Speaker 3>being there. And it was honestly great, Like I made

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<v Speaker 3>so much money off of like one song I've only done,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've done the same song both times, and the

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<v Speaker 3>song is like only three minute song, and each time

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<v Speaker 3>I walked away with like a good bit of coin.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, I love that they're so ready for miss Cayne

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<v Speaker 1>Rouge to be bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to come out and see you the next

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<v Speaker 1>time I fucking leave my house.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's a lot to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there is, all of your accomplishments and just you're

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, girl, you're fucking doing so well for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, And honestly, girl, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>you know something I've noticed, I now know two.

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<v Speaker 4>Other black trans women who are now homeowners.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you know, listen, things might seem a little

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<v Speaker 3>shitty right now because so many people are talking about

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<v Speaker 3>us and they're saying horrible things about us. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>the reality is different. The world is changing. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>a trans owning property is like an inconceivable It was inconceivable.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and nineties even absolutely, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, even in the early two thousands, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, even then it was still hard to find

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<v Speaker 3>housing if you were trans. You know, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe ten years ago things really turned around for us,

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<v Speaker 3>would you.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree, Yeah, yeah, But then you know recently I'm like, well, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's happened on Well, you know, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's see, but that's all taught.

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<v Speaker 4>That's these people are just talking their passing laws that

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<v Speaker 4>no one's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it really is. Yeah, yeah, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's workarounds for everything. Like you know, everyone's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Freaking about, freaking out about the Supreme Court decisions on

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<v Speaker 3>this and that and the third and you just have

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<v Speaker 3>to remember that, like communities do more for each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Than any government can do for their own people.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Mutual aid workarounds to you know, getting around

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<v Speaker 3>these like crappy laws like ending it firm ad action.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a workaround for that, right, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 3>just have to think about, you know what these people

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<v Speaker 3>are really fighting against and just remind you of like

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<v Speaker 3>you're a trans girl. Okay, you found a way around

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<v Speaker 3>all the barriers before.

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<v Speaker 2>You just gonna have to keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna figure it out. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>We play the game of life on expert mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely on expert Yes. Yeah. I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being here. I'm so proud of you,

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of all your accomplishments recently. Great job. Music

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<v Speaker 1>has been amazing. I can't wait for more. And Zata,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell everyone where they can find you and follow you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me on social media at one the

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<v Speaker 3>number one Zeta zan that z A I D A

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<v Speaker 3>z A n E. You can also find me in

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<v Speaker 3>band camp and I am available. You can listen to me.

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<v Speaker 2>On all streaming platforms.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm even on Pandora Baby period. So I'm on Pandora,

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<v Speaker 3>last FM, I'm on Apple Music, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have radio, Yeah, radio, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>On them all.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm gonna we gotta get distribution to and

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<v Speaker 3>so if you want to listen to me you can.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I love that, and be sure listeners to

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<v Speaker 1>tune in to our full length episode this Wednesday. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking with a legendary trans trailblazer, prolific

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<v Speaker 1>writer and transactivist, Dallas Denny, so tune in for that

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<v Speaker 1>and have a great beginning of your week