WEBVTT - What Is a Woman? A Conversation with Matt Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>What is a woman? Matt Walsh with The Daily Wire

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<v Speaker 1>travel with the World to try to get answers to

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<v Speaker 1>that basic question. How did such a simple question become

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<v Speaker 1>so controversial in today's society. I mean, you imagine ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago thinking to yourself or or seeing a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people in our country not being able to answer

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<v Speaker 1>that question, refusing to answer that question, refusing to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>the truth that you're either man or you're a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>How did this happen? Why did this happen and how

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<v Speaker 1>is it spreading so easily in society? I mean j

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<v Speaker 1>Lo took the stage recently and announced her daughter as

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<v Speaker 1>a day. So, you know, we're gonna get into all

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<v Speaker 1>these questions with Matt Walsh. We're gonna talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>new documentary. I've watched it. It is really good. It

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<v Speaker 1>is totally worth your time, you know, Matt Wall. She's

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<v Speaker 1>also the host of The Daily Wires The Matt Walsh Show,

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<v Speaker 1>always pointing out great points on Twitter as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>follow him frequently re share his stuff. So we're really

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<v Speaker 1>just going to get into this. How concerned should you

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<v Speaker 1>be if you're parent about what's going on in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these schools and we keep hearing these stories of

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<v Speaker 1>a kid coming home and the teachers have groomed this child.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe it's a boy, and the teachers say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you'd be happier if you're a woman. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is happening sometimes without the parents consent. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of consent, how can a fifteen year old consent

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<v Speaker 1>to a double massectomy? How was that even legal? Mabe,

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen to parents who went out and got

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<v Speaker 1>their fifteen year old? The breast implans, So, how did

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<v Speaker 1>this lunacy take over America? And why aren't we going

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<v Speaker 1>along with it? It's insane. So we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into all of this with Matt Wall. She's incredibly smart,

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<v Speaker 1>really funny guy as well. I'm really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. I'm a big fan of him, big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the documentary, and I hope you're a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of this interview. So that I watched the documentary, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I thought it was so good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're a very intelligent person, but I also appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of humor with it too, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to laugh in the cloud world that we

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<v Speaker 1>live in. Today, So I appreciated that. Yeah, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what we wanted to kind of bring out,

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<v Speaker 1>is the is that there's on the top layer of

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<v Speaker 1>this issue. I guess you could say, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of absurdity, and absurdity is funny, so it's it's appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh at it. But then once once you go

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit below the surface, you find that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some really sinister things going on. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we could, our goal was to kind of get both

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<v Speaker 1>of those things into the movie and then also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make it like an actual piece of entertainment as well,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's dealing with a serious issue. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>happy it's that part of it as resonating people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I learned a lot from it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so to your point, you know, it also gave across

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of information that was important. What is a woman?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's I feel like that's a spoiler. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I if I had to get spoilers away, then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we discovered, a woman is an adult human female.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is as as simple that I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>could you get in more specifics about each individual woman

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about you know, the personality traits of women individually,

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<v Speaker 1>but it comes to the definition of the term. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much it. But it was so complicated for

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<v Speaker 1>so many people to answer. And You've also got a

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<v Speaker 1>book coming out and it's titled What is a Woman?

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<v Speaker 1>One Man's Journey to Answer the Question of a Generation?

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<v Speaker 1>But how did we get to this place in time

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<v Speaker 1>where that that question such a simple question is the

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<v Speaker 1>question of a generation? Yeah? I think it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>this all was was sort of sprung on us, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seven, eight years ago, maybe ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it seems to most people. That just

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<v Speaker 1>came out of nowhere and this became an issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>this became a question at that point. But really, as

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<v Speaker 1>we get into in the film, it goes back even

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<v Speaker 1>further than that, and you could trace it back almost

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<v Speaker 1>as far as you want, but we, uh, we take

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<v Speaker 1>it back to what I think is a is a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of landmark moment in the mid twentieth century when

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<v Speaker 1>general idealogy and its current form began to take take

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<v Speaker 1>take shape. Um and it's sort of started there and

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<v Speaker 1>then made its way into our institutions, academia in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where it lived. I think for the most

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<v Speaker 1>part for decades before it funneled down into the into

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream. UM. And at this point, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>taken over all of our institutions, and through the institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>taken over people's brains a lot of ways. And even

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<v Speaker 1>the people who still have their brains about them and

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<v Speaker 1>their wits about them, they are they're afraid, they're scared

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the truth about this topic because of the

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<v Speaker 1>powerful institutions that they know can punish them for speaking

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. Well, and to that point, let's play this

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<v Speaker 1>clip real quick, and then I want to get you

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of it. So you're saying, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a woman and you shouldn't have an opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>where does a guy get it right to say what

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<v Speaker 1>a woman is? Women only know what women are? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a cat? No? Can you tell me what a

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<v Speaker 1>cat is? This is actually generale mistake. I am sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I even if you look there so obviously walked right

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<v Speaker 1>into that one. But to the point this person could

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<v Speaker 1>obviously answer the question, they're they're choosing not to. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to what extent are we conditioning society this way?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, talk about sort of that social conditioning that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on right now. Yeah, and that person in the

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<v Speaker 1>clip there, that was just one of the many ways

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<v Speaker 1>that people have the proponents of this ideology they have

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<v Speaker 1>they have no way of answering the questions, but they

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<v Speaker 1>do have different ways of getting around them, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get around them anyway and evade them. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the classic evasion tactics now is this thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>heard from that person, which is, well, is the job

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<v Speaker 1>only a woman is qualified even speak on this subject,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that doesn't make any sense. And but

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<v Speaker 1>but even there are plenty of women who will say

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<v Speaker 1>that a woman's only a documents email. And according to

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<v Speaker 1>general ideologues, that's still not an acceptable answer you can

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<v Speaker 1>come from a woman to the whole thing doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any sense. Um, And it has been it has been

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<v Speaker 1>a process of conditioning, and I think you know there

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<v Speaker 1>there's kind of two part. There's two different types of conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the intimidation, the fear tactics, conditioning people that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are especially adults, many adults who grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in a basically same society, at least a society that

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<v Speaker 1>new the difference between men and women. But now are

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<v Speaker 1>pretending they don't because they've been conditioned through fear to

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<v Speaker 1>remain silent or to just take the party line. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the other more insidious form of it, conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>that happens to children who never had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in the same society. They grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>the society we have now. And for them, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Left gets to them very very early, before they

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<v Speaker 1>understand the differences between reality and fiction and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they live in a fantastical world already in their

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<v Speaker 1>heads because their imagine it to children, and the Left

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<v Speaker 1>gets to them very young and takes advantage of that

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<v Speaker 1>and just warps their minds from a young age. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're seeing play out right now in society. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the saddest part of it. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's parents too, mean j Lo took this age,

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<v Speaker 1>announced they was joining her. It was only her daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>so one person, which is slightly confusing, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's this fat right. The New York posted an

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<v Speaker 1>article recently with de transition ers and one person. One

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<v Speaker 1>girl was named Chloe Close, seventeen year old student from California,

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<v Speaker 1>and she talks about how like this really started her

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<v Speaker 1>when she joined Instagram at eleven, and she says, I

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<v Speaker 1>started being exposed to a lot of LGBT content and activism,

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<v Speaker 1>and what she liked about it was all the attention

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<v Speaker 1>that these people were getting, the praise that they were getting.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't really have a lot of friends at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so talk about social media's role in sort

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<v Speaker 1>of driving the spikes and transitions were saying in her youth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge part of it. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's a couple of different things going on the

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<v Speaker 1>As you point out that Jeffer Lopez the non binary

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<v Speaker 1>daughter or whatever it is, Um, that's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a coincident that all of the celebrities now

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<v Speaker 1>have non binary trans kids, and for them it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a fashion statement, I think, and they used their kids like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>like that like fashion access reason. And so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that going on with parents, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>it's really terrible that parents of treat their kids that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but but they do, especially in Hollywood. Um. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there's also you know, we we talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about rapid rapid onset gender dysphoria, and that's the the child. Oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 1>not always, but but often most of the time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a girl, adolescent girl who was raised in a normal

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<v Speaker 1>house and um, not certainly don't. Their parents are not

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<v Speaker 1>on board with this at all, and everything is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then they come up from school one

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<v Speaker 1>day and they just announced, Oh, I'm a boy, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that has that happens happening all all over the

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<v Speaker 1>country and many parents are going through this. And where

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<v Speaker 1>do the kids pick it up from? Well, they pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up from you know, they're friends at school. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of it because they're they're in this

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<v Speaker 1>environment physically every single day for like six or seven

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year,

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<v Speaker 1>for twelve years, where these ideas are being voiced on

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<v Speaker 1>them and there's all this peer pressure and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>trendy and cool to be you know, trans are not binary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the worst thing you could be is just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal unquote sist person as they call it now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there they have that at school, but then

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<v Speaker 1>they leave school, but they don't really leave school. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't really leave the peer culture, peer environment because they

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<v Speaker 1>have their phones, and they have social media, and so

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<v Speaker 1>this they end up in this kind of fog that's

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<v Speaker 1>follows them around and surrounds them all day long. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where social media becomes a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really think that it would be impossible to overstate, um,

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<v Speaker 1>just how much of a role social media plays in this,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in getting these ideas directly into our kids minds. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think with things like TikTok, it's intentional

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously it's you know, China, right, trying to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of infiltrate our country and destroys from within. Uh. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but the challenges that the tragedy of it

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<v Speaker 1>is that, I mean, can you really de transition? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the New York Post that same interview interviewed another individual.

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<v Speaker 1>She at twelve years old, she decided that she was transgender.

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<v Speaker 1>She came out to her parents when puberty blockers was

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<v Speaker 1>prescribed to stosterone. At fifteen, she underwent a double missectomy,

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<v Speaker 1>and in less than a year later, at sixteen, she

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<v Speaker 1>realized she made a mistake. So, I mean, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you go back at that point when you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>already given yourself a double missectomy? I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the concern here, is it? Like can you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how do you even do that? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that well you can de transition mentally, which is important,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of bring your mind back to reality and

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<v Speaker 1>learn to accept yourself or you who you actually are.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's the great tragedy is that the physical

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<v Speaker 1>part of it can't cannot be undone. And that that

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<v Speaker 1>applies to the surgeries. Obviously you get a double missect.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, there's no way of going back from that

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<v Speaker 1>that body parts removed, obviously, But that also applies to

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<v Speaker 1>the drugs, to puberty blockers. There are there are permanent

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<v Speaker 1>effects to puberty blockers, and the other side they just

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<v Speaker 1>they just straight up lie about this and they why

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<v Speaker 1>the kids and at everybody, a lot of parents, they

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is well, it's temporary, reversible. It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are permanent changes happening to the body. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with things like your your voice. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>start taking the stuff that changes your voice, and those

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<v Speaker 1>that change is permanent and that's not a small change,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a very that's that's a defining feature of you,

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<v Speaker 1>is your voice, and that's gone forever and change um

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<v Speaker 1>changes to your you know, your bone structure, bone density,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of physiological changes having and sterilization. These drugs

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<v Speaker 1>are also sterilizing kids permanently. And the question is whether

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<v Speaker 1>a child under the age of consent can actually consent

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<v Speaker 1>to having to undergoing these changes. Whether they doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what they say, it doesn't matter if they verbally agree

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<v Speaker 1>to take the drugs. Can they actually consent? Can they um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, assent to this change happening to the body.

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<v Speaker 1>And and answer is no, because that's the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of the age of consent, is that no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>a kid says, they really understand the quote unquote choice

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<v Speaker 1>they're making, and so there can't be any consent. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and to that point, I mean, this person was fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>when she underwent a double massectomy. I mean, if a

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<v Speaker 1>parent went out and got their fifty year old breast

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<v Speaker 1>in plants, they would probably have their kid take it away, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's or you could and there's so many other examples.

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<v Speaker 1>You could give breast in plants, tattoo, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the age where you can get a tattoo varies, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think almost everyone would agree that fifteen is too

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<v Speaker 1>young togo get a tattoo, especially if you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a fifteen year old kid who wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get a big tattoo right across her forehead, like

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<v Speaker 1>who who? Who would agree that that a fifteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old should be able to make that choice. And if

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen year old went into the tattoo parlor and

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<v Speaker 1>asked the tattoo guy for a tattoo across the forehead,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tattoo artists actually did it, then we would

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<v Speaker 1>blame that. We say he needs to put out of

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<v Speaker 1>business for that. He needs to be fine, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>maybe arrested for doing that to a girl obviously know

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing um. And you know who on the

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<v Speaker 1>left thinks that fifteen year old should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>buy guns or like do anything else. Right, So it

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<v Speaker 1>just it just doesn't make any sense. It's not consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's the story with the left and with

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<v Speaker 1>gender ideology in general. It just contradicts itself at every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they want to change the age to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a gun to to twenty one, right. And it's sick

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<v Speaker 1>too because you've got these groups like the World Professional

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<v Speaker 1>Association for Transient er health, which you know, whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>they frequently recommended that hormones can start at fourteen, two

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<v Speaker 1>years earlier than the previous advice, which you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>right their advice is obviously BS. But and then some

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<v Speaker 1>surgeries can be done at fifteen or seventeen. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does it say about a society that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look at that and say, no, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to protect the kids. Well, says we're totally lost

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<v Speaker 1>and broken, uh society to begin with. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>as as I think lots of people know you can

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<v Speaker 1>judge a civilization by how it treats its children. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does that say about ours? And what you mentioned there?

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<v Speaker 1>The world? Whatever it's called w PATH, that transgender Health organization, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very significant The fact that they made that

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<v Speaker 1>change and it lowered the ature and stuff is extremely significant.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason it's significant is that this organization w

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<v Speaker 1>PATH is considered wrongly but is but is considered to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a prominent authority figure on when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote transgender health, and whatever they decree, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they declare, is immediately accepted by every other medical organization.

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<v Speaker 1>The American Academy pediatrics, you know, the American Psychological Association,

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<v Speaker 1>all these different all the all these other medical associations,

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that we that we think are valid and legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>UM consider w path to be itself valid and legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>and to be the voice the Whatever they say is

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<v Speaker 1>the gospel truth when it comes to gender and transgenderism.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if they say that fifteen is old, is

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<v Speaker 1>old enough for surgery, then that's what it becomes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the that's what the medical feeling in general will

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<v Speaker 1>adopt and accept, and that's what makes it so terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick commercial. More on the new film What Is a Woman? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it really got me. Uh in the movie is you

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<v Speaker 1>talked to this father in Canada who miss gendered his

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<v Speaker 1>own daughter and and didn't want her to transition and

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<v Speaker 1>is now facing charges. I mean, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the world we're heading in, right, Yeah, that's in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you have to give in mind in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know they Canada recently passed a bill

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<v Speaker 1>where they banned um so called conversion therapy. And now

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<v Speaker 1>this this case happened before this band on quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>conversion therapy, but I think I believe it's bill C

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<v Speaker 1>four in Canada. I could be wrong about that, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>call me on it. But um, and what that means

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<v Speaker 1>like for for Canada, what conversion therapy means is, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you miss gender someone quote unquote, that's conversion therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you if if a girl identifies as a boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and but you refer to the girl as a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>then you are committing version therapy, which is against the

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<v Speaker 1>law now and you can lose your kids for that. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course this is twisted and backwards. It is now

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<v Speaker 1>that like, if you affirm a girl as a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what she is, you are converting her somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you affirm her as what she isn't, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's affirmation, not conversion. So it's completely backwards and turned

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<v Speaker 1>on its head like everything else with this ideology. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've heard stories here in America even of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>teachers basically coaching grooming you know, these kids and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're unhappy, right, it's probably because you should

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<v Speaker 1>be a boy, you know, or you're you're a boy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're unhappy. It's probably because you should be a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're doing this without the parents consent, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how perverse and prevalent. Is this in in our schools

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<v Speaker 1>here in America? Well, it's everywhere in the schools. It's

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<v Speaker 1>this is the schools have bought into it entirely. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's the the most radical iterations of it. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>like what you're pointing out actually facilitating the conversion there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hear about schools that have conversion closets

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they call it, affirmation closets where they keep

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<v Speaker 1>they keep clothing for students who identifies the opposite sex

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<v Speaker 1>so they can change and their parents won't know about it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you hear about the kind of stuff, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to think, well, that's that this has happens a

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<v Speaker 1>very rare cases. It's not happening. This kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>is happening all over the place. Um. And because this

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<v Speaker 1>is it's it's public school. And what is public mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It means the government run, state run and the regime

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<v Speaker 1>the government regime is um is far left wing and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and gender ideology is gospel truth. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what kids, if you send your kids to public school,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the environment that they're going into, Which is why

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<v Speaker 1>I always urged parents, and I know, I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not possible for everybody, But if it is possible, pull,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's at all possible, pull your kid out of

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<v Speaker 1>public school, home school them. I mean, really, almost any

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<v Speaker 1>option will be better at this point in public school.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, how much of this is mental illness

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<v Speaker 1>or depression or or a variety of other things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big part of it. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think there's a it's a multifaceted thing. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a mental illness you know that we used

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<v Speaker 1>to call. They keep changing it, and they keep changing

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<v Speaker 1>it in the d s M. They they change it

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<v Speaker 1>for political reasons and for you know, sort of branding reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But um used to be called body dysmorphia. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the gender these gender identity disorder and now is gender disports.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep changing it. But um, there is an actual

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<v Speaker 1>mental disorder where someone without necessarily any prompting from society

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<v Speaker 1>will feel, you know, not at home in their own

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<v Speaker 1>body and feel like they have the wrong body. And

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<v Speaker 1>but that's a mental illness. And we know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness because it's not true, like your body is

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<v Speaker 1>your body, you can't have any any other. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like it's the wrong body, then you you

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<v Speaker 1>have a misconception about yourself and about the world. It's no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no different in kind from a rail thin woman

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<v Speaker 1>who feels like she's obese and um so starves herself

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<v Speaker 1>and anorexia. And with that we all know that, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to affirm you in your belief that

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<v Speaker 1>you're obese because you're not. And and so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to help you. We're gonna try to help your

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<v Speaker 1>mind align itself with reality for your own sake, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it should be the same thing with with mental illness,

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<v Speaker 1>with with with this kind of mental illness. But someone

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<v Speaker 1>who feels like they have the wrong body, like that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense. You can't really have the wrong body.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your body. It's the only one you can have.

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<v Speaker 1>So the goal should be to align your mind with

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<v Speaker 1>the physical reality. And that's part of the story. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when we see transgenderism, we see the skyrocket you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of of transgender identification. It's like tenfold, twentyfold for the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest generation over their grandparents generation. That's not all explained

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<v Speaker 1>by mental illness. I think the lion share of that

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of that is from social conditioning, social contagion,

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<v Speaker 1>peer pressure, all of that. I think that explained most

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<v Speaker 1>of it well. And it's adults too. I mean, one

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<v Speaker 1>interview that really got me, in addition to the one

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<v Speaker 1>you did with the father in Canada was a Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Nugent who you know. I mean, that was pretty gut

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<v Speaker 1>wrenching sort of hearing that story. Uh you know, talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about that and was that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get to. I mean that was hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get through. That was pretty uh, pretty emotional. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the I thought really powerful parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the film. Is powerful for me um just sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>having the conversations. It was also you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>really stark contrast that I think comes through in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>but also for me, it really came through when I

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<v Speaker 1>was just doing these interviews where you've got on one

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<v Speaker 1>side the proponents of gender ideology and trying to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them, trying to have any conversation with them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like wrestling a slug or something. It's just wiggling out

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<v Speaker 1>of it all the time and you can't get a

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<v Speaker 1>handle on anything, and they're always a fading um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you go talk to someone like Scott Nugent who's

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<v Speaker 1>an opponent of these ideas and has actually lived through

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<v Speaker 1>lived the implications of these ideas. And it's raw, open honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's off the table, willing to talk about anything, just

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<v Speaker 1>being completely open and honest. And I found that to

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<v Speaker 1>be really really refreshing on one hand, and then also

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying based on what I heard and tragic all these

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<v Speaker 1>things wrapped up into one. But I think these are

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<v Speaker 1>these are gonna be really important voices going forward, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>voices of people who've been through the quote unquote transition

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<v Speaker 1>and can turn back around and warn anybody else who's

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<v Speaker 1>about to cross the same bridge. It's it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>for you or I who haven't been across the bridge

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<v Speaker 1>to say to someone, hey, don't don't cross that bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no good on the other side. We can say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we should say it, but it's much more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>to have the people that have actually crossed it and

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<v Speaker 1>can say from experience, like, here's what actually happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you do this. And um, so I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was definitely powerful. So Alfred Kinsey and John Money,

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<v Speaker 1>who are they? Uh? Those are I basically the fathers

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<v Speaker 1>of modern gender ideology. And uh, as I said you

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<v Speaker 1>and when you want to trace this thing back to

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<v Speaker 1>its roots, you can go back. Can you go back?

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<v Speaker 1>You go back all the way to follow man if

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<v Speaker 1>you want. But but there are certain moments in time

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<v Speaker 1>that I think like landmark moments, and this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, with Alfred Kinsey and John Money, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>we get into it. You know, you could have a

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<v Speaker 1>whole documentary just about these guys, and there are people

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<v Speaker 1>have written about it and don films about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Kinsey, you know, he was a sexologist and his

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<v Speaker 1>one of his great, if we can call it that

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<v Speaker 1>projects in life was to sexualize everyone really and especially kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And he saw that kids. He believed that kids were sexual,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from from cradle to grave, all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from birth and um. And he also wanted to convince

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<v Speaker 1>the world that, you know, normal sexuality was not normal,

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<v Speaker 1>that in fact, everybody was kind of like perverse and depraved.

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<v Speaker 1>And and he had all these studies that he was

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly showed this and all these polls and surveys, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it turned out that he went and he was

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<v Speaker 1>serving child molesters and pedophiles and people in prison and

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<v Speaker 1>then he was extrapolating these wild conclusions based on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's an important piece of the puzzle, is

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<v Speaker 1>just the sexualization especially a kids. Um. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>go to John Money, and now we get really into

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<v Speaker 1>gender specifically. He coined the term gender identity, he coined,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even a term like sexual orientation he coined.

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<v Speaker 1>And he believed that sex and gender were two different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that gender was socially conditioned as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of social constructs. He tried, he had this thought, this

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<v Speaker 1>theory he experimented on and you know, he tried the

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<v Speaker 1>theory out on two young boys that we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in the film The Rhymer Twins and Um. The experiment

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<v Speaker 1>went horribly wrong, and both boys ended up killing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as adults. Their lives were utterly ruined by it. But

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<v Speaker 1>Um nonetheless, and in his and his theories were disconfirmed

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<v Speaker 1>in the process to his own experimentations. But nonetheless, they

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<v Speaker 1>made their way and they were accepted in the mainstream,

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<v Speaker 1>both John Money and Alfred Kinsey. Kinsey's ideas were and

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<v Speaker 1>now we live in a world that was in part

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<v Speaker 1>kind of created by these two guys. Even even though

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<v Speaker 1>most people don't know that and don't even know their names. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly didn't know that before watching the documentary, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm glad I learned that part and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to watch the documentary. You know, is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you want to leave the audience with before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, for one thing, definitely go watch the

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<v Speaker 1>movie What is the Woman dot com? You can become

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<v Speaker 1>a subscriber and watch it there. And and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that two things people take away from the film is

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<v Speaker 1>one to see just how pervasive this problem is. That

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<v Speaker 1>it's not something out on the fringes. It's not something

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<v Speaker 1>you can ignore. And I think people on the right

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<v Speaker 1>have tried for way too long to you just ignore it,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it was some kind of sad that would just

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<v Speaker 1>go away. But that's not going to happen. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want people to see that and realize that. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>second thing I want them to take away is that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the bad news, is how pervasive and toxic it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the good news is that this um ideology, this

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<v Speaker 1>idea is very beatable. You know it. We can win.

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<v Speaker 1>We can win this fight because, as as we showed

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<v Speaker 1>in the film, all you have to do is ask

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<v Speaker 1>some questions, really basic questions, and the whole thing falls apart.

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<v Speaker 1>But that just takes a little bit of backbone encourage

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<v Speaker 1>in our part to be willing to stand up and

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<v Speaker 1>ask the skeptical questions. So I hope people take that

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<v Speaker 1>from the film. Well, and I know your father too,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is coming from, you know, a genuine place

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<v Speaker 1>of concern, both as a father and just for our country. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's this. Even if I wasn't a father,

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<v Speaker 1>I would care about this because I care about kids

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<v Speaker 1>and I care about the truth, you know. Um, But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I'm a father that really makes it

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<v Speaker 1>real for me. And Um, I realized that my this

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<v Speaker 1>is the world that I'm I and we collectively are

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<v Speaker 1>leaving for my kids and everybody else's kids. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't I can't sit back and accept that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing my kids into this totally insane culture. I've

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<v Speaker 1>to try to do something about it. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what we all should should do. And

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<v Speaker 1>is the book officially out? Yeah, the book is available

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to go to Amazon, and uh, I really love for

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>you to buy their Amazon, especially because it makes the

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Amazon employees cry. So you go to Amazon What Is

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<v Speaker 1>a Woman and buy the book and you can get

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<v Speaker 1>the movie is a Woman dot Com. Awesome, Matt, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing really important work. Uh. And I'm not just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that because you're my guest on the show. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible documentary. I learned so much from it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've taken bullets in this process. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for what you're doing. And I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. All right, thanks, thank you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just saying this because he was my guests, but

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I watched the documentary. I went to the Daily Wire

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<v Speaker 1>and paid for the subscription just to watch the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible, really really worth your time. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>so much for I made it. It's a hard financial

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<v Speaker 1>time for a lot of people to totally get it

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just like, hey, look, you know, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to save some money. But it was really good. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing really important work. Gets attacked a lot just for

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<v Speaker 1>telling the truth. So you know, I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and support his work if you've hand,

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<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate you guys listening to the show. As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every Monday and Thursday, New episodes, So thank

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you at home for listening. And I also want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank my producer, John Cassio for always working so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to put this together. Thanks for listening.