Speaker 1: What is a woman? Matt Walsh with The Daily Wire
Speaker 1: travel with the World to try to get answers to
Speaker 1: that basic question. How did such a simple question become
Speaker 1: so controversial in today's society. I mean, you imagine ten
Speaker 1: years ago thinking to yourself or or seeing a bunch
Speaker 1: of people in our country not being able to answer
Speaker 1: that question, refusing to answer that question, refusing to acknowledge
Speaker 1: the truth that you're either man or you're a woman.
Speaker 1: How did this happen? Why did this happen and how
Speaker 1: is it spreading so easily in society? I mean j
Speaker 1: Lo took the stage recently and announced her daughter as
Speaker 1: a day. So, you know, we're gonna get into all
Speaker 1: these questions with Matt Walsh. We're gonna talk about his
Speaker 1: new documentary. I've watched it. It is really good. It
Speaker 1: is totally worth your time, you know, Matt Wall. She's
Speaker 1: also the host of The Daily Wires The Matt Walsh Show,
Speaker 1: always pointing out great points on Twitter as well. I
Speaker 1: follow him frequently re share his stuff. So we're really
Speaker 1: just going to get into this. How concerned should you
Speaker 1: be if you're parent about what's going on in some
Speaker 1: of these schools and we keep hearing these stories of
Speaker 1: a kid coming home and the teachers have groomed this child.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's a boy, and the teachers say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, you'd be happier if you're a woman. Right,
Speaker 1: So this is happening sometimes without the parents consent. And also,
Speaker 1: speaking of consent, how can a fifteen year old consent
Speaker 1: to a double massectomy? How was that even legal? Mabe,
Speaker 1: what would happen to parents who went out and got
Speaker 1: their fifteen year old? The breast implans, So, how did
Speaker 1: this lunacy take over America? And why aren't we going
Speaker 1: along with it? It's insane. So we're going to get
Speaker 1: into all of this with Matt Wall. She's incredibly smart,
Speaker 1: really funny guy as well. I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 1: this conversation. I'm a big fan of him, big fan
Speaker 1: of the documentary, and I hope you're a big fan
Speaker 1: of this interview. So that I watched the documentary, I
Speaker 1: loved it. I thought it was so good. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you're a very intelligent person, but I also appreciated
Speaker 1: the sense of humor with it too, And I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to laugh in the cloud world that we
Speaker 1: live in. Today, So I appreciated that. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what we wanted to kind of bring out,
Speaker 1: is the is that there's on the top layer of
Speaker 1: this issue. I guess you could say, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of absurdity, and absurdity is funny, so it's it's appropriate
Speaker 1: to laugh at it. But then once once you go
Speaker 1: a little bit below the surface, you find that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, some really sinister things going on. So if
Speaker 1: we could, our goal was to kind of get both
Speaker 1: of those things into the movie and then also you know,
Speaker 1: make it like an actual piece of entertainment as well,
Speaker 1: even though it's dealing with a serious issue. So we're
Speaker 1: happy it's that part of it as resonating people. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean I learned a lot from it as well,
Speaker 1: so to your point, you know, it also gave across
Speaker 1: a lot of information that was important. What is a woman?
Speaker 1: Well that's I feel like that's a spoiler. But if
Speaker 1: I if I had to get spoilers away, then you know,
Speaker 1: as we discovered, a woman is an adult human female.
Speaker 1: It really is as as simple that I mean, you
Speaker 1: could you get in more specifics about each individual woman
Speaker 1: and talking about you know, the personality traits of women individually,
Speaker 1: but it comes to the definition of the term. That's
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. But it was so complicated for
Speaker 1: so many people to answer. And You've also got a
Speaker 1: book coming out and it's titled What is a Woman?
Speaker 1: One Man's Journey to Answer the Question of a Generation?
Speaker 1: But how did we get to this place in time
Speaker 1: where that that question such a simple question is the
Speaker 1: question of a generation? Yeah? I think it feels like
Speaker 1: this all was was sort of sprung on us, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, seven, eight years ago, maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 1: That's the way it seems to most people. That just
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and this became an issue, and
Speaker 1: this became a question at that point. But really, as
Speaker 1: we get into in the film, it goes back even
Speaker 1: further than that, and you could trace it back almost
Speaker 1: as far as you want, but we, uh, we take
Speaker 1: it back to what I think is a is a
Speaker 1: kind of landmark moment in the mid twentieth century when
Speaker 1: general idealogy and its current form began to take take
Speaker 1: take shape. Um and it's sort of started there and
Speaker 1: then made its way into our institutions, academia in particular,
Speaker 1: and that's where it lived. I think for the most
Speaker 1: part for decades before it funneled down into the into
Speaker 1: the mainstream. UM. And at this point, it's just it's
Speaker 1: taken over all of our institutions, and through the institutions,
Speaker 1: taken over people's brains a lot of ways. And even
Speaker 1: the people who still have their brains about them and
Speaker 1: their wits about them, they are they're afraid, they're scared
Speaker 1: to tell the truth about this topic because of the
Speaker 1: powerful institutions that they know can punish them for speaking
Speaker 1: the truth. Well, and to that point, let's play this
Speaker 1: clip real quick, and then I want to get you
Speaker 1: on the other side of it. So you're saying, if
Speaker 1: you're not a woman and you shouldn't have an opinion,
Speaker 1: where does a guy get it right to say what
Speaker 1: a woman is? Women only know what women are? Are
Speaker 1: you a cat? No? Can you tell me what a
Speaker 1: cat is? This is actually generale mistake. I am sorry,
Speaker 1: I even if you look there so obviously walked right
Speaker 1: into that one. But to the point this person could
Speaker 1: obviously answer the question, they're they're choosing not to. So,
Speaker 1: you know, to what extent are we conditioning society this way?
Speaker 1: You know, talk about sort of that social conditioning that's
Speaker 1: going on right now. Yeah, and that person in the
Speaker 1: clip there, that was just one of the many ways
Speaker 1: that people have the proponents of this ideology they have
Speaker 1: they have no way of answering the questions, but they
Speaker 1: do have different ways of getting around them, trying to
Speaker 1: get around them anyway and evade them. And one of
Speaker 1: the classic evasion tactics now is this thing that you
Speaker 1: heard from that person, which is, well, is the job
Speaker 1: only a woman is qualified even speak on this subject,
Speaker 1: And of course that doesn't make any sense. And but
Speaker 1: but even there are plenty of women who will say
Speaker 1: that a woman's only a documents email. And according to
Speaker 1: general ideologues, that's still not an acceptable answer you can
Speaker 1: come from a woman to the whole thing doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. Um, And it has been it has been
Speaker 1: a process of conditioning, and I think you know there
Speaker 1: there's kind of two part. There's two different types of conditioning.
Speaker 1: There's the intimidation, the fear tactics, conditioning people that way.
Speaker 1: And these are especially adults, many adults who grew up
Speaker 1: in a basically same society, at least a society that
Speaker 1: new the difference between men and women. But now are
Speaker 1: pretending they don't because they've been conditioned through fear to
Speaker 1: remain silent or to just take the party line. And
Speaker 1: then there's the other more insidious form of it, conditioning
Speaker 1: that happens to children who never had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: grow up in the same society. They grew up in
Speaker 1: the society we have now. And for them, it's like
Speaker 1: the Left gets to them very very early, before they
Speaker 1: understand the differences between reality and fiction and all of that,
Speaker 1: and they live in a fantastical world already in their
Speaker 1: heads because their imagine it to children, and the Left
Speaker 1: gets to them very young and takes advantage of that
Speaker 1: and just warps their minds from a young age. And
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing play out right now in society. Well,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the saddest part of it. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: but it's parents too, mean j Lo took this age,
Speaker 1: announced they was joining her. It was only her daughter,
Speaker 1: so one person, which is slightly confusing, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's this fat right. The New York posted an
Speaker 1: article recently with de transition ers and one person. One
Speaker 1: girl was named Chloe Close, seventeen year old student from California,
Speaker 1: and she talks about how like this really started her
Speaker 1: when she joined Instagram at eleven, and she says, I
Speaker 1: started being exposed to a lot of LGBT content and activism,
Speaker 1: and what she liked about it was all the attention
Speaker 1: that these people were getting, the praise that they were getting.
Speaker 1: She didn't really have a lot of friends at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, so talk about social media's role in sort
Speaker 1: of driving the spikes and transitions were saying in her youth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a huge part of it. And I think it's
Speaker 1: it's there's a couple of different things going on the
Speaker 1: As you point out that Jeffer Lopez the non binary
Speaker 1: daughter or whatever it is, Um, that's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's not a coincident that all of the celebrities now
Speaker 1: have non binary trans kids, and for them it's just
Speaker 1: a fashion statement, I think, and they used their kids like, um,
Speaker 1: like that like fashion access reason. And so there's a
Speaker 1: lot of that going on with parents, which is really
Speaker 1: it's really terrible that parents of treat their kids that way,
Speaker 1: but but they do, especially in Hollywood. Um. But then
Speaker 1: there's also you know, we we talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about rapid rapid onset gender dysphoria, and that's the the child. Oftentimes,
Speaker 1: not always, but but often most of the time, it's
Speaker 1: a girl, adolescent girl who was raised in a normal
Speaker 1: house and um, not certainly don't. Their parents are not
Speaker 1: on board with this at all, and everything is fine,
Speaker 1: and then and then they come up from school one
Speaker 1: day and they just announced, Oh, I'm a boy, and
Speaker 1: that's that has that happens happening all all over the
Speaker 1: country and many parents are going through this. And where
Speaker 1: do the kids pick it up from? Well, they pick
Speaker 1: it up from you know, they're friends at school. That's
Speaker 1: a big part of it because they're they're in this
Speaker 1: environment physically every single day for like six or seven
Speaker 1: hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year,
Speaker 1: for twelve years, where these ideas are being voiced on
Speaker 1: them and there's all this peer pressure and now it's
Speaker 1: trendy and cool to be you know, trans are not binary.
Speaker 1: It's like the worst thing you could be is just
Speaker 1: a normal unquote sist person as they call it now. Um.
Speaker 1: And then there they have that at school, but then
Speaker 1: they leave school, but they don't really leave school. They
Speaker 1: don't really leave the peer culture, peer environment because they
Speaker 1: have their phones, and they have social media, and so
Speaker 1: this they end up in this kind of fog that's
Speaker 1: follows them around and surrounds them all day long. And
Speaker 1: that's where social media becomes a big part of it.
Speaker 1: And I really think that it would be impossible to overstate, um,
Speaker 1: just how much of a role social media plays in this,
Speaker 1: uh in getting these ideas directly into our kids minds. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think with things like TikTok, it's intentional
Speaker 1: because obviously it's you know, China, right, trying to sort
Speaker 1: of infiltrate our country and destroys from within. Uh. But
Speaker 1: you know, but the challenges that the tragedy of it
Speaker 1: is that, I mean, can you really de transition? Right?
Speaker 1: Like the New York Post that same interview interviewed another individual.
Speaker 1: She at twelve years old, she decided that she was transgender.
Speaker 1: She came out to her parents when puberty blockers was
Speaker 1: prescribed to stosterone. At fifteen, she underwent a double missectomy,
Speaker 1: and in less than a year later, at sixteen, she
Speaker 1: realized she made a mistake. So, I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you go back at that point when you know you've
Speaker 1: already given yourself a double missectomy? I mean I think
Speaker 1: that that's the concern here, is it? Like can you
Speaker 1: you know, how do you even do that? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think that well you can de transition mentally, which is important,
Speaker 1: but kind of bring your mind back to reality and
Speaker 1: learn to accept yourself or you who you actually are.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the great tragedy is that the physical
Speaker 1: part of it can't cannot be undone. And that that
Speaker 1: applies to the surgeries. Obviously you get a double missect.
Speaker 1: To me, there's no way of going back from that
Speaker 1: that body parts removed, obviously, But that also applies to
Speaker 1: the drugs, to puberty blockers. There are there are permanent
Speaker 1: effects to puberty blockers, and the other side they just
Speaker 1: they just straight up lie about this and they why
Speaker 1: the kids and at everybody, a lot of parents, they
Speaker 1: say that this is well, it's temporary, reversible. It's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are permanent changes happening to the body. Um,
Speaker 1: starting with things like your your voice. I mean, you
Speaker 1: start taking the stuff that changes your voice, and those
Speaker 1: that change is permanent and that's not a small change,
Speaker 1: like that's a very that's that's a defining feature of you,
Speaker 1: is your voice, and that's gone forever and change um
Speaker 1: changes to your you know, your bone structure, bone density,
Speaker 1: all kinds of physiological changes having and sterilization. These drugs
Speaker 1: are also sterilizing kids permanently. And the question is whether
Speaker 1: a child under the age of consent can actually consent
Speaker 1: to having to undergoing these changes. Whether they doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what they say, it doesn't matter if they verbally agree
Speaker 1: to take the drugs. Can they actually consent? Can they um,
Speaker 1: you know, assent to this change happening to the body.
Speaker 1: And and answer is no, because that's the whole point
Speaker 1: of the age of consent, is that no matter what
Speaker 1: a kid says, they really understand the quote unquote choice
Speaker 1: they're making, and so there can't be any consent. Well,
Speaker 1: and to that point, I mean, this person was fifteen
Speaker 1: when she underwent a double massectomy. I mean, if a
Speaker 1: parent went out and got their fifty year old breast
Speaker 1: in plants, they would probably have their kid take it away, right,
Speaker 1: And that's or you could and there's so many other examples.
Speaker 1: You could give breast in plants, tattoo, you know, um,
Speaker 1: the age where you can get a tattoo varies, but
Speaker 1: I think almost everyone would agree that fifteen is too
Speaker 1: young togo get a tattoo, especially if you know what,
Speaker 1: if you had a fifteen year old kid who wanted
Speaker 1: to get a big tattoo right across her forehead, like
Speaker 1: who who? Who would agree that that a fifteen year
Speaker 1: old should be able to make that choice. And if
Speaker 1: the fifteen year old went into the tattoo parlor and
Speaker 1: asked the tattoo guy for a tattoo across the forehead,
Speaker 1: and the tattoo artists actually did it, then we would
Speaker 1: blame that. We say he needs to put out of
Speaker 1: business for that. He needs to be fine, but I'll
Speaker 1: maybe arrested for doing that to a girl obviously know
Speaker 1: she was doing um. And you know who on the
Speaker 1: left thinks that fifteen year old should be able to
Speaker 1: buy guns or like do anything else. Right, So it
Speaker 1: just it just doesn't make any sense. It's not consistent.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the story with the left and with
Speaker 1: gender ideology in general. It just contradicts itself at every time.
Speaker 1: I mean, they want to change the age to buy
Speaker 1: a gun to to twenty one, right. And it's sick
Speaker 1: too because you've got these groups like the World Professional
Speaker 1: Association for Transient er health, which you know, whatever, but
Speaker 1: they frequently recommended that hormones can start at fourteen, two
Speaker 1: years earlier than the previous advice, which you know, the
Speaker 1: right their advice is obviously BS. But and then some
Speaker 1: surgeries can be done at fifteen or seventeen. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, what does it say about a society that
Speaker 1: doesn't look at that and say, no, you know, we
Speaker 1: have to protect the kids. Well, says we're totally lost
Speaker 1: and broken, uh society to begin with. And I mean
Speaker 1: as as I think lots of people know you can
Speaker 1: judge a civilization by how it treats its children. So
Speaker 1: what does that say about ours? And what you mentioned there?
Speaker 1: The world? Whatever it's called w PATH, that transgender Health organization, Um,
Speaker 1: that's a very significant The fact that they made that
Speaker 1: change and it lowered the ature and stuff is extremely significant.
Speaker 1: And the reason it's significant is that this organization w
Speaker 1: PATH is considered wrongly but is but is considered to be,
Speaker 1: you know, a prominent authority figure on when it comes
Speaker 1: to quote unquote transgender health, and whatever they decree, whatever
Speaker 1: they declare, is immediately accepted by every other medical organization.
Speaker 1: The American Academy pediatrics, you know, the American Psychological Association,
Speaker 1: all these different all the all these other medical associations,
Speaker 1: organizations that we that we think are valid and legitimate.
Speaker 1: UM consider w path to be itself valid and legitimate
Speaker 1: and to be the voice the Whatever they say is
Speaker 1: the gospel truth when it comes to gender and transgenderism.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if they say that fifteen is old, is
Speaker 1: old enough for surgery, then that's what it becomes. That's
Speaker 1: what the that's what the medical feeling in general will
Speaker 1: adopt and accept, and that's what makes it so terrifying.
Speaker 1: Quick commercial. More on the new film What Is a Woman? Well,
Speaker 1: it really got me. Uh in the movie is you
Speaker 1: talked to this father in Canada who miss gendered his
Speaker 1: own daughter and and didn't want her to transition and
Speaker 1: is now facing charges. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: the world we're heading in, right, Yeah, that's in Canada.
Speaker 1: And what you have to give in mind in Canada
Speaker 1: is that you know they Canada recently passed a bill
Speaker 1: where they banned um so called conversion therapy. And now
Speaker 1: this this case happened before this band on quote unquote
Speaker 1: conversion therapy, but I think I believe it's bill C
Speaker 1: four in Canada. I could be wrong about that, they'll
Speaker 1: call me on it. But um, and what that means
Speaker 1: like for for Canada, what conversion therapy means is, um,
Speaker 1: if you miss gender someone quote unquote, that's conversion therapy.
Speaker 1: If you if if a girl identifies as a boy,
Speaker 1: and but you refer to the girl as a girl,
Speaker 1: then you are committing version therapy, which is against the
Speaker 1: law now and you can lose your kids for that. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course this is twisted and backwards. It is now
Speaker 1: that like, if you affirm a girl as a girl,
Speaker 1: which is what she is, you are converting her somehow.
Speaker 1: But if you affirm her as what she isn't, then
Speaker 1: that's affirmation, not conversion. So it's completely backwards and turned
Speaker 1: on its head like everything else with this ideology. You know,
Speaker 1: and we've heard stories here in America even of you know,
Speaker 1: teachers basically coaching grooming you know, these kids and saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, you're unhappy, right, it's probably because you should
Speaker 1: be a boy, you know, or you're you're a boy,
Speaker 1: you're unhappy. It's probably because you should be a girl.
Speaker 1: And they're doing this without the parents consent, you know
Speaker 1: how perverse and prevalent. Is this in in our schools
Speaker 1: here in America? Well, it's everywhere in the schools. It's
Speaker 1: this is the schools have bought into it entirely. And
Speaker 1: there's the the most radical iterations of it. Are you
Speaker 1: like what you're pointing out actually facilitating the conversion there?
Speaker 1: You know, you hear about schools that have conversion closets
Speaker 1: or whatever they call it, affirmation closets where they keep
Speaker 1: they keep clothing for students who identifies the opposite sex
Speaker 1: so they can change and their parents won't know about it. Um.
Speaker 1: And you hear about the kind of stuff, and you
Speaker 1: want to think, well, that's that this has happens a
Speaker 1: very rare cases. It's not happening. This kind of thing
Speaker 1: is happening all over the place. Um. And because this
Speaker 1: is it's it's public school. And what is public mean?
Speaker 1: It means the government run, state run and the regime
Speaker 1: the government regime is um is far left wing and
Speaker 1: uh and gender ideology is gospel truth. And so that's
Speaker 1: what kids, if you send your kids to public school,
Speaker 1: that's the environment that they're going into, Which is why
Speaker 1: I always urged parents, and I know, I know it's
Speaker 1: not possible for everybody, But if it is possible, pull,
Speaker 1: if it's at all possible, pull your kid out of
Speaker 1: public school, home school them. I mean, really, almost any
Speaker 1: option will be better at this point in public school.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, how much of this is mental illness
Speaker 1: or depression or or a variety of other things going on.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. I think,
Speaker 1: I think, I think there's a it's a multifaceted thing. So, um,
Speaker 1: there is a mental illness you know that we used
Speaker 1: to call. They keep changing it, and they keep changing
Speaker 1: it in the d s M. They they change it
Speaker 1: for political reasons and for you know, sort of branding reasons.
Speaker 1: But um used to be called body dysmorphia. I think
Speaker 1: the gender these gender identity disorder and now is gender disports.
Speaker 1: They keep changing it. But um, there is an actual
Speaker 1: mental disorder where someone without necessarily any prompting from society
Speaker 1: will feel, you know, not at home in their own
Speaker 1: body and feel like they have the wrong body. And
Speaker 1: but that's a mental illness. And we know it's a
Speaker 1: mental illness because it's not true, like your body is
Speaker 1: your body, you can't have any any other. So if
Speaker 1: you feel like it's the wrong body, then you you
Speaker 1: have a misconception about yourself and about the world. It's no,
Speaker 1: it's no different in kind from a rail thin woman
Speaker 1: who feels like she's obese and um so starves herself
Speaker 1: and anorexia. And with that we all know that, no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to affirm you in your belief that
Speaker 1: you're obese because you're not. And and so we're gonna
Speaker 1: try to help you. We're gonna try to help your
Speaker 1: mind align itself with reality for your own sake, right,
Speaker 1: And it should be the same thing with with mental illness,
Speaker 1: with with with this kind of mental illness. But someone
Speaker 1: who feels like they have the wrong body, like that
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. You can't really have the wrong body.
Speaker 1: This is your body. It's the only one you can have.
Speaker 1: So the goal should be to align your mind with
Speaker 1: the physical reality. And that's part of the story. But
Speaker 1: then when we see transgenderism, we see the skyrocket you know,
Speaker 1: of of transgender identification. It's like tenfold, twentyfold for the
Speaker 1: youngest generation over their grandparents generation. That's not all explained
Speaker 1: by mental illness. I think the lion share of that
Speaker 1: vast majority of that is from social conditioning, social contagion,
Speaker 1: peer pressure, all of that. I think that explained most
Speaker 1: of it well. And it's adults too. I mean, one
Speaker 1: interview that really got me, in addition to the one
Speaker 1: you did with the father in Canada was a Scott
Speaker 1: Nugent who you know. I mean, that was pretty gut
Speaker 1: wrenching sort of hearing that story. Uh you know, talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that and was that kind of
Speaker 1: hard to get to. I mean that was hard to
Speaker 1: get through. That was pretty uh, pretty emotional. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was one of the I thought really powerful parts of
Speaker 1: the film. Is powerful for me um just sitting down
Speaker 1: having the conversations. It was also you know, there's a
Speaker 1: really stark contrast that I think comes through in the film,
Speaker 1: but also for me, it really came through when I
Speaker 1: was just doing these interviews where you've got on one
Speaker 1: side the proponents of gender ideology and trying to talk
Speaker 1: to them, trying to have any conversation with them. It's
Speaker 1: like wrestling a slug or something. It's just wiggling out
Speaker 1: of it all the time and you can't get a
Speaker 1: handle on anything, and they're always a fading um. And
Speaker 1: then you go talk to someone like Scott Nugent who's
Speaker 1: an opponent of these ideas and has actually lived through
Speaker 1: lived the implications of these ideas. And it's raw, open honesty,
Speaker 1: nothing's off the table, willing to talk about anything, just
Speaker 1: being completely open and honest. And I found that to
Speaker 1: be really really refreshing on one hand, and then also
Speaker 1: terrifying based on what I heard and tragic all these
Speaker 1: things wrapped up into one. But I think these are
Speaker 1: these are gonna be really important voices going forward, Um,
Speaker 1: voices of people who've been through the quote unquote transition
Speaker 1: and can turn back around and warn anybody else who's
Speaker 1: about to cross the same bridge. It's it's one thing
Speaker 1: for you or I who haven't been across the bridge
Speaker 1: to say to someone, hey, don't don't cross that bridge.
Speaker 1: It's no good on the other side. We can say that,
Speaker 1: and we should say it, but it's much more powerful
Speaker 1: to have the people that have actually crossed it and
Speaker 1: can say from experience, like, here's what actually happens when
Speaker 1: you when you do this. And um, so I thought
Speaker 1: that was definitely powerful. So Alfred Kinsey and John Money,
Speaker 1: who are they? Uh? Those are I basically the fathers
Speaker 1: of modern gender ideology. And uh, as I said you
Speaker 1: and when you want to trace this thing back to
Speaker 1: its roots, you can go back. Can you go back?
Speaker 1: You go back all the way to follow man if
Speaker 1: you want. But but there are certain moments in time
Speaker 1: that I think like landmark moments, and this is one
Speaker 1: of them, with Alfred Kinsey and John Money, um, and
Speaker 1: we get into it. You know, you could have a
Speaker 1: whole documentary just about these guys, and there are people
Speaker 1: have written about it and don films about it. But
Speaker 1: Alfred Kinsey, you know, he was a sexologist and his
Speaker 1: one of his great, if we can call it that
Speaker 1: projects in life was to sexualize everyone really and especially kids.
Speaker 1: And he saw that kids. He believed that kids were sexual,
Speaker 1: you know, from from cradle to grave, all the way
Speaker 1: from birth and um. And he also wanted to convince
Speaker 1: the world that, you know, normal sexuality was not normal,
Speaker 1: that in fact, everybody was kind of like perverse and depraved.
Speaker 1: And and he had all these studies that he was
Speaker 1: supposedly showed this and all these polls and surveys, but
Speaker 1: then it turned out that he went and he was
Speaker 1: serving child molesters and pedophiles and people in prison and
Speaker 1: then he was extrapolating these wild conclusions based on that.
Speaker 1: And so that's an important piece of the puzzle, is
Speaker 1: just the sexualization especially a kids. Um. And then you
Speaker 1: go to John Money, and now we get really into
Speaker 1: gender specifically. He coined the term gender identity, he coined,
Speaker 1: you know, even a term like sexual orientation he coined.
Speaker 1: And he believed that sex and gender were two different things,
Speaker 1: and and that gender was socially conditioned as a matter
Speaker 1: of social constructs. He tried, he had this thought, this
Speaker 1: theory he experimented on and you know, he tried the
Speaker 1: theory out on two young boys that we talked about
Speaker 1: in the film The Rhymer Twins and Um. The experiment
Speaker 1: went horribly wrong, and both boys ended up killing themselves
Speaker 1: as adults. Their lives were utterly ruined by it. But
Speaker 1: Um nonetheless, and in his and his theories were disconfirmed
Speaker 1: in the process to his own experimentations. But nonetheless, they
Speaker 1: made their way and they were accepted in the mainstream,
Speaker 1: both John Money and Alfred Kinsey. Kinsey's ideas were and
Speaker 1: now we live in a world that was in part
Speaker 1: kind of created by these two guys. Even even though
Speaker 1: most people don't know that and don't even know their names. Well,
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know that before watching the documentary, so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad I learned that part and was
Speaker 1: able to watch the documentary. You know, is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to leave the audience with before we go?
Speaker 1: I think, well, for one thing, definitely go watch the
Speaker 1: movie What is the Woman dot com? You can become
Speaker 1: a subscriber and watch it there. And and I hope
Speaker 1: that two things people take away from the film is
Speaker 1: one to see just how pervasive this problem is. That
Speaker 1: it's not something out on the fringes. It's not something
Speaker 1: you can ignore. And I think people on the right
Speaker 1: have tried for way too long to you just ignore it,
Speaker 1: thinking it was some kind of sad that would just
Speaker 1: go away. But that's not going to happen. And I
Speaker 1: want people to see that and realize that. Then the
Speaker 1: second thing I want them to take away is that
Speaker 1: that's the bad news, is how pervasive and toxic it is.
Speaker 1: But the good news is that this um ideology, this
Speaker 1: idea is very beatable. You know it. We can win.
Speaker 1: We can win this fight because, as as we showed
Speaker 1: in the film, all you have to do is ask
Speaker 1: some questions, really basic questions, and the whole thing falls apart.
Speaker 1: But that just takes a little bit of backbone encourage
Speaker 1: in our part to be willing to stand up and
Speaker 1: ask the skeptical questions. So I hope people take that
Speaker 1: from the film. Well, and I know your father too,
Speaker 1: So this is coming from, you know, a genuine place
Speaker 1: of concern, both as a father and just for our country. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean that's this. Even if I wasn't a father,
Speaker 1: I would care about this because I care about kids
Speaker 1: and I care about the truth, you know. Um, But
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm a father that really makes it
Speaker 1: real for me. And Um, I realized that my this
Speaker 1: is the world that I'm I and we collectively are
Speaker 1: leaving for my kids and everybody else's kids. And so
Speaker 1: I just can't I can't sit back and accept that
Speaker 1: I'm throwing my kids into this totally insane culture. I've
Speaker 1: to try to do something about it. I think that
Speaker 1: I think that's what we all should should do. And
Speaker 1: is the book officially out? Yeah, the book is available
Speaker 1: to go to Amazon, and uh, I really love for
Speaker 1: you to buy their Amazon, especially because it makes the
Speaker 1: Amazon employees cry. So you go to Amazon What Is
Speaker 1: a Woman and buy the book and you can get
Speaker 1: the movie is a Woman dot Com. Awesome, Matt, you're
Speaker 1: doing really important work. Uh. And I'm not just saying
Speaker 1: that because you're my guest on the show. It was
Speaker 1: an incredible documentary. I learned so much from it, and
Speaker 1: I know you've taken bullets in this process. So thank
Speaker 1: you for what you're doing. And I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All right, thanks, thank you. I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying this because he was my guests, but
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary. I went to the Daily Wire
Speaker 1: and paid for the subscription just to watch the movie.
Speaker 1: It was incredible, really really worth your time. I learned
Speaker 1: so much for I made it. It's a hard financial
Speaker 1: time for a lot of people to totally get it
Speaker 1: if you're just like, hey, look, you know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to save some money. But it was really good. He's
Speaker 1: doing really important work. Gets attacked a lot just for
Speaker 1: telling the truth. So you know, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to go out and support his work if you've hand,
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you guys listening to the show. As
Speaker 1: you know, every Monday and Thursday, New episodes, So thank
Speaker 1: you at home for listening. And I also want to
Speaker 1: thank my producer, John Cassio for always working so hard
Speaker 1: to put this together. Thanks for listening.