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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity radio show podcast. All right, who's anonymous?

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Speaker 1: Who is it? We need you know? There's a really dangerous, sick,

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Speaker 1: latest Uncle Joe. Crazy Uncle Joe. You're a real beep.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it's such a good guy. I want to

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Speaker 1: I'll fight him. Uh, which is a joke. Uh, tough guy,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, good luck I hope he's running for president. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that ought to be fun to watch. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot of news today. We have four big stories that

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Speaker 1: the deep state. All the issues we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: We've got all of that, We've got the anonymous and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna the danger of anonymous is much deeper than

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Speaker 1: blow that out of the water. We have incredible economic news. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: forty nine year low job blos claims and other great

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Speaker 1: data that will share in the course of the program.

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Speaker 1: A little rocket man fire and fury my buttons bigger

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Speaker 1: Trump's first term. Oh excuse me if you listen. You

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Speaker 1: know this is this is part of the lie that

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Speaker 1: whoever it happens to be, says, take foreign policy, President

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Speaker 1: Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators like Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Um that now quote they're talking about in the Washington Times,

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Speaker 1: sleeper cells have awoken inside the country. Sleeper cells what

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Speaker 1: And there's lines in here that makes me wonder whether

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Speaker 1: purposefully withheld, or what they did to Papadopoulos that nobody

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Speaker 1: the single hearing, and there's no indication that any verification

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Speaker 1: own dossier. The FBI was paying him for part of

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Speaker 1: fact funding and controlling. So all this, he says, under

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Speaker 1: the threat of perjury, I don't know. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: throw intelligence. What the hell I know? I can't say

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Speaker 1: that I know that this is true. Well, then still

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Speaker 1: the Steel hating you know, Steele, who hates Trump, is

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Speaker 1: now back during his information to the Special Council, guy

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Speaker 1: that lied and leaked. There's no evidence to back up

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Speaker 1: any of this phony dossier, and he doesn't even stand

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Speaker 1: by his own dossier. Judicial Watch has a report new

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Speaker 1: FBI records revealed that Struck authored the initial draft of

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Speaker 1: the call me letter. Whoopsie Daisy. That's because they took

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Speaker 1: it out of the hands of the real FBI agents,

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Speaker 1: the guys that we love and trust, the field agents

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Speaker 1: that would have done their job. The first indication that

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Speaker 1: things were going awry is when you take it out

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Speaker 1: of the field office and you put it right in

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Speaker 1: the hands of the upper echelon at the FBI and

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Speaker 1: the d o J. That was a big deal. And

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Speaker 1: of course I'm not so sure this story is true

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Speaker 1: that the Bruce Or and Christopher Steele try to get

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Speaker 1: that Russian oligarch, you know, to give us dirt on

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Speaker 1: Trump or give them dirt on Trump. And that's Ole

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Speaker 1: Derris potska uh that never turned out to be. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Now. The question is now that

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Speaker 1: it's right in the wheelhouse of Robert Mueller. And you've

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Speaker 1: got a connection that that we now know Steal was

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Speaker 1: feeding information of Bruce or who was feeding it too? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Weisman. Is that the reason why all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden that Robert Mueller may accept written answers from Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: Does he want to land the airplane and get this

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Speaker 1: over with because it's looking really bad after the headline

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Speaker 1: d o j's Bruce or kept Mueller deputy in the

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Speaker 1: loop about the anti Trump dosier. That's Andrew Weiseman. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's the guy that lost nine zero in the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that got tens of thousands of Americans

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Speaker 1: in the Enron case to lose their jar jobs at

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Speaker 1: Anderson Accounting. He's the guy that put four innocent Meryal

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Speaker 1: executives in jail for a year that was overturned by

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Speaker 1: the Fifth Circuit. He's the guy that's leading a charge

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Speaker 1: in all this Russian collusion about I'm sorry, loan applications

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Speaker 1: from years gone by, tax returns from year has gone by.

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Speaker 1: The big victory of Mueller comes from Andrew Weissman. How

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Speaker 1: did this guy and Genie Ray, who was the lawyer

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Speaker 1: for the Clinton Foundation get on Mueller's team. It's disgustingly corrupt.

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Speaker 1: But I'm told that if this information comes out, these

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Speaker 1: material is released, and yeah, the FISA warrants unredacted or

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Speaker 1: released twenty plus pages, ten to twelve seventy thirty four.

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Speaker 1: How do you know that, Hannity? Because I do journalism.

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Speaker 1: I have sources, and my sources tell me information. That's

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Speaker 1: what I do. That's my job. I know the media

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Speaker 1: they're they're probably breathing about, you know, every day. It's something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's an Obama supporter justice. If we can accuse somebody

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Speaker 1: of wrongdoing, we have to have admissible evidence and credible witnesses.

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Speaker 1: We need to prepare to prove our case in court,

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Speaker 1: and we have to fix our signature to the charging document.

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Speaker 1: That's something that not everybody appreciates. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about pies applications, and many people that I see

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Speaker 1: talking about it seemed not to recognize what a FIES application.

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Speaker 1: FIES application is actually a warrant, just like a search warrant.

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Speaker 1: In order to get a FISA search warrant, you need

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Speaker 1: an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer

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Speaker 1: who swears that the information in the affidavit is true

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Speaker 1: and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way we operate. And if it's wrong

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Speaker 1: sometimes it is. If you find out there's anything incorrect

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Speaker 1: in there, that person is going to face consequences. That

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Speaker 1: person is gonna face consequences. Rob Rosenstein five months ago. Uh,

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Speaker 1: gladual with us hour to Sean Hannity Show. Right down

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Speaker 1: our toll free number. It's eight nine one, Shawn, if

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. We

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Speaker 1: have three big issues that are developing as it relates

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Speaker 1: to Deep State Gate, Sarah Carter rightly pointing out that

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Speaker 1: the President may declassify some twenty documents pages of documents,

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Speaker 1: but also much more potentially could be released. That is

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Speaker 1: the three O two's, the Group of eight details and

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Speaker 1: and much more. We'll get to the details on that

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Speaker 1: in a second. We have a breaking article even The

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Speaker 1: Washington Post has to get in on the Hannity train,

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Speaker 1: albeit eighteen months late, but they're pointing out the prosecutors

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Speaker 1: are using our grand jury as we speak, as an

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Speaker 1: investigation into Andrew McCabe, the second highest ranking FBI official.

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Speaker 1: This is under James Comey is now intensifying here and

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Speaker 1: apparently a grand jury has been summoned and they've summoned

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Speaker 1: the issue of who signed fies A warrants that were

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Speaker 1: never corroborated or verified and glaring omissions that dealt with politics. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're in each of the four fights A warrants. Interesting

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Speaker 1: that Rod Rosenstein says, oh, you need a career law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the best of his knowledge, this has

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Speaker 1: to be true. Well, the problem is that dossier was

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Speaker 1: never true. Even Steele himself wouldn't stand by his own dossier.

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Speaker 1: And we've got the mystery that is unfolding, which is okay,

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Speaker 1: leading from Hillary Clinton right into the office of Special

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Speaker 1: Counsel Robert Mueller. And it goes this way. It's Hillary

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Speaker 1: and the d n C funneling money through a law firm.

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Speaker 1: Law firm then transferring the money over to Fusion GPS

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Speaker 1: and OP research firm could be a campaign violation. But

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Speaker 1: putting that aside, they go out and hire Christopher Steele,

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Speaker 1: foreign spy. He uses all his dubious sources, puts together

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Speaker 1: this series of of of papers, if you will refer

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Speaker 1: to as the dossier, then of course there are twelve

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Speaker 1: separate bruce or three oh two's. I believe most of

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Speaker 1: them dealing with Christopher Steele, if I'm not mistaken. Also,

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Speaker 1: what we we we call or qualify as the Gang

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Speaker 1: of Eight documents, that's the same binder information that was

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Speaker 1: used to brief Congress this summer as a result of

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Speaker 1: the subpoena of its subpoena, And of course then we've

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Speaker 1: got other apparently operational plans and exculpatory information that also exists.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what I'm missing. You're not missing a thing, Sean,

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Speaker 1: And I think that that what what we don't know

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Speaker 1: Remember a few people have seen those documents. They are

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Speaker 1: highly classified. They are not allowed to speak about it.

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Speaker 1: But what we do know, what I know as journalists

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Speaker 1: snooping around in Washington here with everything going on, is

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Speaker 1: that these documents will be vital, that there will be

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Speaker 1: information in them beyond what we already know that will

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Speaker 1: be explosive and shocking, and that there was a fraud

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Speaker 1: perpetuated on the court, on the highly secretive court that

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Speaker 1: David Show knows so much about in he can talk

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Speaker 1: on the legal side of that, but that there was

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Speaker 1: a fraud perpetrated on the court, and that they withheld

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Speaker 1: evidence from the court, exculpatory evidence. We've heard Devin Nouna

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Speaker 1: say this to you on his show, The Chairman, and

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Speaker 1: we know his committee has been fighting the stuth and nail.

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Speaker 1: And now we look at Rosenstein's memo, right that the

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Speaker 1: fight of renewal on Carter page. And here we have,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Deputy Attorney General signing loss on a

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Speaker 1: FIFO warrant on an American citizen. And he should have known,

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Speaker 1: based on all of the previous renewals what was going

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Speaker 1: Special Counsel and Robert Mueller and you said right on today,

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Speaker 1: That is a grand jury investigation into this, and I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you it's much deeper than Jess McCabe lying. This

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Speaker 1: is a grand jury investigation into everything that has been

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Speaker 1: going on, and that's what the Inspector General, Michael Horowitz

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Speaker 1: this grand jury, but we can definitely look at Prosecutor

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Speaker 1: Huber for this, John Huber and others. Remember Jeff Sessions

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Speaker 1: said the Attorney General said that they would be looking

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Speaker 1: into this, and this is what Michael Horowitz made, this

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of criminal referrals. I remember when

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Speaker 1: And Cabe is a central player all of this, and

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a lot of questions here. They're

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Speaker 1: near future. But the most important thing that President Trump,

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Speaker 1: being requested. We need the brute or three O twos,

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Speaker 1: and we certainly need um the Gang of Eight binder,

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Speaker 1: Congressional investigators from that meeting. They did not want them

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Speaker 1: looking at it. And what I was told is during

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Speaker 1: going to need. Unbelievable. Uh, let me bring in David

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Speaker 1: Shown and get your If a grand jury is convened,

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Speaker 1: well you know the old saying, you can then die

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Speaker 1: to ham sandwich. But there seems to be a lot

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Speaker 1: now that the Washington Post is, you know, nearly two

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Speaker 1: years late to catch up with the Hannity Show, but

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Speaker 1: try and play catch up right in Indica, Ham Sandwich,

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Speaker 1: but you have to want to. You know, there's been

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Speaker 1: Mr Sessions to two different U S Attorneys from two

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Speaker 1: District of Columbia. We've asked the question on the show,

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Speaker 1: Mrs be And here's what the fires of Court says.

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Speaker 1: The aiding Judge and his declassification issue. Because by the way,

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Speaker 1: the authority. And what Judge Collier says is the size.

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Speaker 1: The Court does not object to any decision of the

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Speaker 1: security and to maintain the intention of any ongoing law

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Speaker 1: enforcement investigations. Therefore, Justice Department has the right to release

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Speaker 1: the documents, but the authority rest in the executive This

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Speaker 1: is what Article two is about. You know, last point

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Speaker 1: of the president has the ability and the power to

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Speaker 1: unredact all this information. And let me just shift to Sarah.

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Speaker 1: If he does that, Sarah, you know my sources say,

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Speaker 1: and I hate when I hear this from Washington because

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Speaker 1: they always disappoint they always overplay their hand a bit.

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Speaker 1: But I'm told over and all where it will be

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Speaker 1: devastating an exculpatory to the president, and the whole house

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Speaker 1: of cards can come tumbling down. Now I believe that

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Speaker 1: is absolutely true. And why do I believe this, Sean,

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Speaker 1: because this was such a gross violation already, the information

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Speaker 1: that we have already shows such a gross violation and

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Speaker 1: fraud perpetrated on the court. It's a growth violation of

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Speaker 1: our constitutional rights. I mean, this was this was spying

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Speaker 1: on an American, not just an American. They spied on

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Speaker 1: this American because they were connected to the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 1: That means they were collecting not just the information on

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Speaker 1: Carter Page. It's not like they're just listening to him.

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Speaker 1: They're listening to everybody that Carter Page is speaking to.

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Speaker 1: And guess what they're listening to everybody those people's conversations

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Speaker 1: with other people. So it's secondary and tertiary conversations. This

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Speaker 1: is why this is so important. You know, we are

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Speaker 1: there has to be a reason, There has to be

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Speaker 1: reasonable evidence that could lead the government to spy on you,

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Speaker 1: to listen into your private phone conversations. Um, we have

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Speaker 1: to ask ourselves how many more people did this happen to?

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Speaker 1: This is just what we know about. We just know

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Speaker 1: about Carter Page. This is one of many. Because remember

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Speaker 1: we forget that all of this started with us, Sean,

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Speaker 1: way back when when we were uncovering story after story

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Speaker 1: on the unmaskings of Americans, and like Samantha Power unmasking

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Speaker 1: let's see almost at a rate of one a day,

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Speaker 1: and increase on the masking of Americans. Oh, in the

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Speaker 1: election year, you mean that, that mean exactly? That's what

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Speaker 1: I mean exactly, Sean. And because we've been so inuentated

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Speaker 1: with so much news, and because we're just so swamped

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Speaker 1: with all of this breaking news and new layers of

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Speaker 1: the onion, we forget where we started. Where, what has

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Speaker 1: happened with that investigation? What have they been doing to

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Speaker 1: find out? Why I was? Why was the UN ambassadors? Then?

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Speaker 1: Why was Misspowers? I'm asking over three people towards the

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Speaker 1: end of her tenure. Let me bring David back in. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's all. These are all issues that we're gonna return

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Speaker 1: to at some point. But you're right, there's been so

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Speaker 1: much breaking news and so many other new aspects of

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Speaker 1: this to follow. I didn't mean to interrupt you, David,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted to get to how serious this

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Speaker 1: information would be if the President doesn't unredax this information,

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Speaker 1: which he apparently might do. He said it now. Uh,

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Speaker 1: In at least two instances that I know, of right,

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Speaker 1: and Sarah's reporting this is simtilating, frankly, what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: Next to his interview with Senator Corey Booker demanding that

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Speaker 1: these things be declassified and published on the internet because

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Speaker 1: after all, he's in favorite you mean, the Little Grandstanding

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Speaker 1: episode today and it had turned out, it had turned out,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that that had been released, the very

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Speaker 1: thing that he was saying wasn't released that he was

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Speaker 1: willing to go to jail over. Yeah, that was already

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Speaker 1: that was already released publicly, Thank you very much. Here's

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Speaker 1: what's Here's what's so troubling to me. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I carry every place I go a copy of the

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Speaker 1: Constitution with me. I even uploaded the most recent version

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Speaker 1: because I think it's changed somehow. There seems to now

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Speaker 1: be for all of these scholars and journalists and a

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Speaker 1: mother investigation exception the articles authority, article to vest authority

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Speaker 1: and the executive branch and spells it out the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice is part of an executive branch. All of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, since the Muther investigations are going on, it

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Speaker 1: seems that the executive doesn't have the authority anymore to

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Speaker 1: determine who's going to be the head of the Justice Department.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have the authority. Now we're told maybe to

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Speaker 1: declassify documents that the five the Court felt has said

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Speaker 1: the executive branch has the greatest interest in and has

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Speaker 1: the authority to release. So I haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: find the Mueller exception in my copy of the Constitution,

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Speaker 1: and I really would challenge some of these folks to

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Speaker 1: tell me where it is. No, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: great point. All right, quick break, we'll come back more

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Speaker 1: with Sarah Carter and David shown on the other side

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Speaker 1: than Andy McCarthy at the bottom of this next half hour.

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Speaker 1: As we continue with Sarah Carter and David Shone, what

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Speaker 1: do you make you know? In the middle of all

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Speaker 1: of this with the President, we now have Mueller saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we might just accept the idea that we can get

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Speaker 1: written answers, and it's only on the Russia, not on obstruction.

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Speaker 1: Why do I believe now that Bruce or which we

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Speaker 1: now know has been the conduit the back channel to

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele, and that Christopher Steele is talking about passing

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Speaker 1: on and apparently has successfully passed on information to Andrew Weissman,

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Speaker 1: who is Mueller's pitbull and number one at the Special

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Speaker 1: Counsel's office. And there's even handwritten notes that mentioned this

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Speaker 1: at this point, Now that the phony Clinton bought and

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Speaker 1: paid for Russian lies are directly being fed from a

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Speaker 1: guy that lied and a guy that won't even stand

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Speaker 1: by his dossier. Is Robert Mueller feeling the heat of

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Speaker 1: hiring people like Weisseman and Jeannie Ray Sarah Carter? Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, he's feeling the heat. And he's worried about

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Speaker 1: his legacy. And look, he's got a couple of chinks

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Speaker 1: in his belt, but they're not really that worthy. They

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Russian collusion or Russian involvement

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Speaker 1: with the Trump campaign. Do you think he wants to

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Speaker 1: end this? Okay? I think he wants to wrap If

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Speaker 1: he's a smart man, he wants to wrap this up quickly.

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Speaker 1: He knows he's not gonna find is he gonna Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna write a roadmap to impeachment for Democrats for

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Speaker 1: if they win the House in sixty one days. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be able to do that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be able to do that. Remember,

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Speaker 1: because it's going to be challenged in the courts whether

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Speaker 1: or not. You know, there's certain things that may prohibit

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Speaker 1: him from doing that. But I think what's happened here

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Speaker 1: is that he's seeing the forest through the trees now

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Speaker 1: and we've got all of this information coming out on

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Speaker 1: Bruce Or And how can he even go after the

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Speaker 1: president on obstruction when Rod Rosenstein himself, who's the deputy

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Speaker 1: A g was the one that wrote the letter originally

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Speaker 1: asking the President to fire Comy. I gotta run only

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Speaker 1: because amount of time. We'll have a lot more and

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Speaker 1: John Solomon has more on the Steel Or and yeah,

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Speaker 1: special counsel Mueller office connection that is gonna blow this

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Speaker 1: wide open. But if the President does, in fact under

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Speaker 1: dack all those information, it's gonna be a game changer,

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Sarah, thank you, David Shown,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Eight hundred nine for one, Shawn or toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone number. We'll take a quick break. We'll come

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Speaker 1: back Andy McCarthy at the bottom of this half hour

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Speaker 1: and much more straight ahead alright, twenty five to the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour. Or toll free telephone number is

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Speaker 1: eight nine one Shawn. If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program. A lot of breaking news as

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Speaker 1: it relates to the deep state. It's getting deeper and

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Speaker 1: deeper now, and it looks like many of the indictments

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Speaker 1: that we've been wondering if and when they're possibly coming

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Speaker 1: of some of these deep state actors. Was Washington Post

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Speaker 1: report finally they're getting on the Hannity train. They're only

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Speaker 1: eighteen months late, but reports the headline as prosecutors use

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Speaker 1: grand jury as investigation of Andrew McCabe in ten sufies.

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Speaker 1: Many of us have been wondering, well, how is it

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Speaker 1: possible that we know crimes and frauds were committed against

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Speaker 1: the FISA court and judges. How is it possible that

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Speaker 1: nobody gets indicted for that. There's FBI protocol involved, there's

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Speaker 1: the FISAL law itself that is involved. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know anybody that gets away with committing a fraud upon

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Speaker 1: a court. Now, if you really take it, it starts

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Speaker 1: with Hillary and the d n C paying a law firm, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it could be a campaign finance violation.

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Speaker 1: If we're if we're worried about people putting out false

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Speaker 1: statements on loan applications from years gone, by then, you

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Speaker 1: would think that this would then be a big issue.

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Speaker 1: Item seven and eight in the Cone Pleague deal, you know,

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Speaker 1: dealt with campaign finance issues. But Hillary Clinton and d

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Speaker 1: n C money goes to a law firm, goes down

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Speaker 1: as a law expense, but then gets funnel to an

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Speaker 1: odd research firm. They hire a foreign national And I

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Speaker 1: thought foreign nationals weren't opposed to impact our elections. But

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Speaker 1: in fact, Christopher Steele that gets Russian phony sources solaceous

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Speaker 1: details about Donald Trump. Not only was it used uh

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Speaker 1: to to perpetuate lies and distortions and misinformation against the

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Speaker 1: American people in the lead up to an election to

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Speaker 1: impact how people vote, but then it was used as

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Speaker 1: the bulk of information presented to the Feiser Court judge,

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Speaker 1: and not only its original application, but three subsequent applications.

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Speaker 1: We also have a story that is breaking from John

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Speaker 1: Solomon tonight that Bruce or trying to influence the investigation.

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Speaker 1: It actually began in August before the election in two

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Speaker 1: while his wife Nellie was working at Fusion GPS on

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Speaker 1: the research on Donald Trump. Or get this, met Steele

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Speaker 1: then met with McCabe page and Struck and by the way,

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Speaker 1: that might be the insurance policy that we were all wondering,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Will stop him? We have That's

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Speaker 1: when the insurance policy kicks in. And also the FBI

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Speaker 1: pivoted from Papadopoulos switched their focus to Steal because of

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Speaker 1: information that Or had. We know seventy contacts with steal

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Speaker 1: an Ore and then we've learned that that steal an

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Speaker 1: Or in part of their contacts are saying, well, did

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Speaker 1: you get the information to the sc yes sees, the

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Speaker 1: special counsel And the answer to that question is yes,

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Speaker 1: they did to Robert Mueller's pit bull, Andrew Weiseman. And

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Speaker 1: Andrew Weisman was getting Steel information. The problem with Steal's

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Speaker 1: information is in an interrogatory in a court case in

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Speaker 1: Great Britain, under a threat of perjury, Christopher Steel didn't

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Speaker 1: stand by his own dossier. I don't know if it's true.

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Speaker 1: This is just raw intelligence, maybe fifty fifty Well, that

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Speaker 1: was the information used to secure FISA warrants and to propaganda.

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Speaker 1: Is the American people in a lead up to an

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Speaker 1: election anyway? What does this all mean? There's only one

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Speaker 1: guy that can sort this out legally for US. Fox

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Speaker 1: News contributor also a columnist. He's been phenomenal on all

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Speaker 1: of these deep state issues for National Review. He also

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Speaker 1: uh is uh well prestigious attorney in his own right,

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Speaker 1: working for the Southern District of New York for somewhat

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Speaker 1: twenty years, and he worked on the World Trade Center

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Speaker 1: bombing case, the First Trade Center bombing, and then of

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Speaker 1: course the Blind Shade case and other cases involving terrorism.

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Speaker 1: And uh former assistant U S Attorney from the Southern

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Speaker 1: District of New York, Andy McCarthy is with us. How

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Speaker 1: are you. I'm doing great, shown except that, uh, when

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Speaker 1: you so nicely summarize my Southern District experience, it reminds

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Speaker 1: me that this year is the anniversary of the World

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Speaker 1: Trade Center bombing. So no, Dave, this was the first

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Speaker 1: Trade Center bombing and you've got convictions in that case.

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Speaker 1: Sure did you know that? I mean, this is when

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Speaker 1: the work of real prosecutors and FBI officials. We can't

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Speaker 1: thank them enough, you know, Andy, I gotta tell I

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Speaker 1: don't like being on the side of having to talk

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Speaker 1: about um a few bad apples in the FBI and

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice. That's not who I am, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm my dad was a family corp probation guy.

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Speaker 1: My mom was a prison guard for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: My family was all cops and fironmen and everything else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I Suan, I agree with you about that. But I

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Speaker 1: really think that those of us who really care about

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Speaker 1: law enforcement, uh, just like those of us who care

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Speaker 1: about anything else. If you if you really care about something,

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00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: the best disinfected for and is is to you know,

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Speaker 1: identify what went wrong and make sure it doesn't happen again.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to do here. And it's

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Speaker 1: not the rank and file. I mean if you look at,

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Speaker 1: for example, the Clinton email investigation, it was taken out

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Speaker 1: of the field offices of the f BEHIND, which is

859
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Speaker 1: highly unusual to turn out. Yeah, that's that's going to

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Speaker 1: turn out to be. I think when the history of

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Speaker 1: this is finally written, UM, one of the big things

862
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Speaker 1: that should have been a blazing red signal that something

863
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Speaker 1: was wrong here is that the FBI and the Justice Department,

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Speaker 1: but the FBI in particular, always wants investigations handled at

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Speaker 1: the field office level throughout the country rather than Washington,

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Speaker 1: precisely to give the investigators some insulation from the political

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Speaker 1: environment of Washington, and these investigations were run out of headquarters,

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Speaker 1: which is highly highly unusual, into my mind, highly inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: because headquarters is supposed to exist so that it can

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Speaker 1: kind of oversee and be removed and objective about investigations.

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Speaker 1: When you're conducting an investigation, you can't have that mindset.

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Speaker 1: But you've never heard in all your years that you

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Speaker 1: serve the Southern District of New York, which is probably

874
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Speaker 1: the most prestigious U. S. Attorney's office in the country.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to flatter you. It's just

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Speaker 1: a fact. They're great at what they do. Um. And

877
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: they have done really big, big important cases that have

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Speaker 1: kept this country safe. So I have great respect for

879
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Speaker 1: the people that work there, really used to work there. Um.

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00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: But my question to you is, have you ever heard

881
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Speaker 1: of an investigation an exoneration letter written months before they

882
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: even talked to the main people involved in the case. Sean,

883
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Speaker 1: we don't do exoneration letters in the Justice Department. You

884
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Speaker 1: can even start with that regular Well, no, listen, I

885
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Speaker 1: mean it's this is an important thing because you when

886
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Speaker 1: you close an investigation, first of all, investigations is supposed

887
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Speaker 1: to be done under the radar to begin with um.

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Speaker 1: But when you close an investigation, you don't issue a

889
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Speaker 1: letter ordinarily or make a public statement that an investigation

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Speaker 1: has been closed, because a lot of times the reason

891
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Speaker 1: you're close an investigation is you end up thinking, well,

892
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: the guy probably did it, but we don't have enough

893
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: evidence to prove it in court, which means if you

894
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Speaker 1: get one other piece of evidence, so one other witnesses

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Speaker 1: comes forward, all of a sudden you have a case

896
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Speaker 1: where the day before you didn't have a case, and

897
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Speaker 1: then you're rolling again. So there's no reason to come

898
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Speaker 1: out and make a statement if you don't. You know,

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Speaker 1: the government should only speak in court when it's formally

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Speaker 1: ready to file charges and when somebody who gets charged

901
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Speaker 1: has all the due process rights that the system gives you.

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: Other than that, the government's supposed to keep its big

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Speaker 1: old mouth shut. But in all but based on all objectivity,

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Speaker 1: if I did the things that Hillary did, as it

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Speaker 1: relates to the email server itself, what we found on

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Speaker 1: the email server that we know that we've found classified

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Speaker 1: top secret information, and then I went about the effort

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Speaker 1: of the leading subpoena emails and or having age do it,

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Speaker 1: and then of course bleach bit and then busting up devices.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'd get away with it, Andy, even

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Speaker 1: if I hired you in Dershowitz and Levine and every

912
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Speaker 1: other great attorney Greg Jarrett to help me. No, you wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: In fact, before you ever got to the classified information Sewan,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of a complicated charge, although I think

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Speaker 1: it's a slam dunk charge on her. The fact that

916
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Speaker 1: these documents were destroyed and the fact that that was

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Speaker 1: done when a satina was issued, you wouldn't even get

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Speaker 1: out of the blocks on that. Do you remember when

919
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Speaker 1: I said, do you remember when I said, hypothetically when

920
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Speaker 1: it was a news article that Robert Muller wanted the

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Speaker 1: phones and devices of everybody that had testified. And I'm like, well,

922
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Speaker 1: if if I said, if I ever said to them

923
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Speaker 1: to do everything she did, if I said, it's not

924
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Speaker 1: gonna work out well. But if I said it, and

925
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Speaker 1: the media went nuts saying Hannity is telling people to

926
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Speaker 1: obstruct justice, and I'm like, just the opposite. I was saying,

927
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Speaker 1: don't do it, but as if you do, it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna work out well. And I actually use those words. Yeah,

929
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Speaker 1: they're they're much interested, much more interested in something that

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Speaker 1: they can twist into obstruction to justice than the actual

931
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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice them right in the face. All right,

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Speaker 1: Quick break more with Andy McCarthy, Fox News contributor, columnists

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Speaker 1: n Rrow and former assistant U S. Attorney for the

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Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. Right and McCarthy with us

935
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Speaker 1: former U S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

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Speaker 1: Fox News contributor n R O H Editor and columnist.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Um, then we have the

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Speaker 1: issue of PISA. If you look at the people that

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Speaker 1: signed off on the FISA applications and that, as far

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Speaker 1: as we know, the last one, meaning the third renewal,

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Speaker 1: but the fourth one issued would be Rod rosen Stein,

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Speaker 1: then you have Sally Yates signing off, and we believe

943
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Speaker 1: James Comey and Andrew McCabe. Um, we now know that

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Speaker 1: the information, not only that they presented, the bulk of

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Speaker 1: the information to obtain the warrant was the Steel dossier.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't stand by his own dossier. We know that

947
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Speaker 1: there's certain omissions that they didn't things they didn't tell

948
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Speaker 1: the court. I would argue lie by omission that Hillary

949
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Speaker 1: had bought and paid for it. That was a fact

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Speaker 1: that they had known and and all of the questions

951
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Speaker 1: surrounding it. They knew it was circular reporting as it

952
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Speaker 1: relates to Michael Izakov's article, because he was fed the

953
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Speaker 1: information from Steele. Steele was also fired and let go.

954
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Speaker 1: And I don't think they still they still vouch for

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Speaker 1: the guy. They had paid him eleven months. Um are

956
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Speaker 1: those people in legal jeopardy? Well, they're potentially in legal jeopardy,

957
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: But you know, it's important to recognize that there's a

958
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Speaker 1: difference between flatly lying to a court, which is certainly

959
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: a felony, and then either omitting to provide information that

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: should have been provided, or asserting information that hasn't been

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00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: verified but that you don't You can't say is false,

962
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: but you really can't say it's true either. Those are

963
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: in the nature shawn of of abusive power that could

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Speaker 1: be prosecutable. But I think, more importantly should be a

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: basis for removing people from there. Would they have to

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Speaker 1: show that some effort was made to verify independently and

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00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: corroborate independently. Let me play words from Rob Rosenstein back

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Speaker 1: in May. The way we operate in the Department of

969
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: Justice if we're can accuse somebody of wrongdoing, we have

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: to have admissible evidence and credible witnesses. We need to

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Speaker 1: prepare to prove our case in court, and we have

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Speaker 1: to fix our signature to the charging document. That's something

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00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: that not everybody appreciates. There's a lot of talk about

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Speaker 1: FISA applications, and many people that I see talking about

975
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: it seemed not to recognize what a FIES application. FIES

976
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Speaker 1: application is actually a warrant, just like a search warrant.

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Speaker 1: In order to get a FISA search warrant, you need

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer

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Speaker 1: who swears that the information in the affidavit is true

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00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way we operate. And if it's wrong

982
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it is. If you find out there's anything incorrect

983
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: in there, that person is going to face consequences. It's wrong,

984
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Speaker 1: Those people are gonna face consequences. Uh. If the information

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Speaker 1: we you know, we're swearing the information is true and correct.

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Speaker 1: Don't we need to know now? Wouldn't there be and uh,

987
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: some type of record of any effort that was made

988
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: to verify or corroborate the Steal dossier. And if there

989
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: was no effort made whatsoever, and this was a guy

990
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: they fired for lying and disseminating information of the media,

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00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't that then therefore be a reckless disregard for their

992
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: job and more importantly, that they committed a fraud on

993
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Speaker 1: the court, perhaps even knowingly. Well Sean, I think the

994
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Speaker 1: record that we have is actually worse than that. The

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: record we have, according to mccage's testimony to the House Committee,

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Speaker 1: the Devin Noon ass Committee, is that they did make

997
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: extensive efforts to corroborate and they weren't able to corroborate it.

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: So they want sheerly on uh Steal's own reputation with

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Speaker 1: them under circumstances. Where As you've outlined, Steel himself didn't

1000
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: claim that this stuff was true. He said it was

1001
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: raw intelligence that needed to be investigated and verified. Now,

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01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: as far as Rosenstein is concerned, I think that the

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Speaker 1: clip that you played number one, he's he's right when

1004
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 1: he says that there's consequences. They may not be consequences

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Speaker 1: in the nature of an indictment. They could be administrative

1006
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: consequences up to being fired requirement. But but Rosenstein's remarks

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01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: there are very self serving, Sean, because what what he

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: knows is that he signed off on the last warrant.

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Speaker 1: And what I think he's trying to say there is,

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Speaker 1: if I did that, I relied on a career agent,

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01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: and that's why you want to forgive me for signing

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: off on this thing that turns out not to have

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: been verified. What usually happens in a court case is

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Speaker 1: that a defendant can get the warrant suppressed, can get

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Speaker 1: all the evidence suppressed. It doesn't mean the agent ends

1016
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: up going to jail over that, but the agent could

1017
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 1: get fired over it. Well, it's gonna be interesting to see.

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01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: I think if I with purposefully withheld exculpatory or important

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01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: information to a judge, I don't know, Andy, I think

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Speaker 1: that I have. I live in a life. You know,

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, what do we learn from the Michael

1022
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: cole manaphort cases. Pay of taxes? I've always told my

1023
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: my accountants pay more. Uh, don't lie on loan applications

1024
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: is never gonna work out. Well, you know certain things

1025
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: you don't do in life. One of them is you

1026
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: don't lie to a judge or withhold information from a judge,

1027
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: but I've got to run. You've been tremendous on all

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Speaker 1: of this, are good friend, Andy McCarthy, thanks for being

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Speaker 1: with us. All Right, News round Up, Information Overload Hour.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've explained many times on both radio and

1031
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Speaker 1: TV that the media in this country, there they are

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Speaker 1: the willing accomplices, basically the propaganda arm of all things Liberals, socialist, demo,

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01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: cradit Party, And it doesn't matter. They wake up every

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Speaker 1: morning with a hatred, a contempt for the president. I

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: use the analogy They're like a bunch of drug addicts

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: and their drug is Trump hate, and they feed off

1037
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Trump hate. And every day we go from crisis to

1038
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: crisis to crisis, the crisis, the crisis, the crisis, the crisis,

1039
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: and they fixate like the sheep that they are. And literally,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's Rush or Rush or Russia,

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01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: Stormy Stormy Stormy. Uh, it doesn't matter if it's Michael Wolf,

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Speaker 1: Michael Wolf, Bob Woodword, Bob Bob Woodward, Bob Woodword, Bob Woodward,

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Speaker 1: Mr Anonymous, Anonymous, Anonymous, Anonymous New York Times. They just

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Speaker 1: they cannot control themselves. Just listen, it's anonymous. Then in

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Speaker 1: a stunning new op ed in the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: Now this op ed in the New York Times, written anonymously,

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Speaker 1: It's an anonymous op ed. An anonymous person. The senior

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Speaker 1: official has written an anonymous op ed. It's anonymous op ed,

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Speaker 1: an unprecedented op ed from an unnamed current Trump administration official.

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Speaker 1: An anonymous op ed who wrote this anonymously. It's anonymous

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Speaker 1: and anonymous anonymous op ed. Bob Woodward's explosive new book,

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Speaker 1: Fear Undeniably Gripping the White House all talking to Bob Woodword.

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Speaker 1: This book from Bob Woodward. According to Woodwords reporting, Bob

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Speaker 1: wood would word would worry, Bob Woodword wood Word, Woodword,

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Speaker 1: Bob would work. Bob Woodword is really a full court

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Speaker 1: press to try to push back against Bob Woodwords book,

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Speaker 1: the Bob Woodword Book, Bob would Word, Bob Woodwork, Bob Woodword,

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Speaker 1: Bob Woodwork. Then we read it in the Bob Woodword Book,

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Speaker 1: a dizzy twenty four hours in the Russia Investigation, Russia

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Speaker 1: ran Russia, Russian, Russians, Rushi, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russians,

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Speaker 1: Russian government. So Donald Trump has turned the Oval Office.

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Speaker 1: Hope Bowler's built this country a hundred and ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Comments whole countries who hold cold cold hol house? Do

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Speaker 1: you think these countries are? Every hour that passes, we

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Speaker 1: get more from Michael Wolfe. I read this book and

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it. This book Fire and Ferry,

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Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe, author, Michael wolf Michael Wolfe, Michael Wolfe his

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Speaker 1: new book Wolf Michael Wolfe. The Stormy Saga takes a

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Speaker 1: dramatic turn. Stormy Daniels, storm st Me Daniels, Stormy Daniel,

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels, Stormy Daniel, Stormy Daniel, Story Daniels. He said,

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Speaker 1: she said, between the Presider and almar Rosa Rosa ma

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Speaker 1: Amrosa Amarosas amar Rosa Rosa, Omar Rossa, Managalt Newman, Amarosa

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Speaker 1: Rosa Rosa Managualt Newman. The likely of impeachment. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's high necessarily, but it certainly went up. Is

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Speaker 1: itself an impeachable offense? Consider something as serious as impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, dempeachment, impeachment, impeachment,

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Speaker 1: peachman and peach, peachment, impeachment, impeachment and peachrompeachment. All right,

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Speaker 1: Joining us now to disgust, we have Jonathan Gillum, author

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Speaker 1: of the newly released book Sheep No More, That's the

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Speaker 1: media sheep still Uh, and Daniel mcglacula, an attorney and

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Speaker 1: constitutional expert. How are you welcome both to the program? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You never hear the litany of success of the president. Ever,

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Speaker 1: You never hear a single thing like, for example, we

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Speaker 1: have news out today, Oh, a forty nine year record

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Speaker 1: low in terms of applications for unemployment. Why would we

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Speaker 1: ever want to talk about something like that, a jobless

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Speaker 1: claims forty nine year low? Why would we ever want

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Speaker 1: to discuss something as important as that when we can

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Speaker 1: obsess about anonymous? Anonymous? Anonymous? Oh? And basically it's somebody

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Speaker 1: that is trying to cowardly undercut the president, which puts

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Speaker 1: uh the presidency in jeopardy. Uh. What if this person

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Speaker 1: is hearing the president talk about war or intelligence or

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Speaker 1: plans for war, and that this person is openly trying

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Speaker 1: to undermine the duly elected president because they think they

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Speaker 1: know better than the American people, and they think they'll

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Speaker 1: take it upon themselves to be president on their own

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Speaker 1: without any accountability. To the electorate that put the real

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Speaker 1: president in office. Danielle. Hey, Sean, how are you doing? Hey, Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do agree with you that this anonymous

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Speaker 1: New York Times our head is somewhat cowardly. Maybe for

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Speaker 1: different reasons than you, But if you have a problem

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Speaker 1: with the president, and I think you should put your

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Speaker 1: name to it, and you should be willing to rest

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Speaker 1: your job. I think it leads um people who are

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Speaker 1: possibly trying to do their best under the circumstances, open

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Speaker 1: to attack UM. And I think people are not going

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Speaker 1: to believe this person necessarily as it relates to economic news. Yes,

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Speaker 1: jobless claims Louis have been. It's incredible good news, but

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Speaker 1: I think that we need to be able to walk

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Speaker 1: into goun. At the same time, I think the Kavanar

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Speaker 1: hearings are taking up a lot of the airwaves. Um

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Speaker 1: that I do agree that a lot of these economic

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Speaker 1: successes and maybe not played off as much as they

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Speaker 1: should be. On the other hand, no, they're never They're

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Speaker 1: never talked about because the media like the sheep that

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Speaker 1: they are forget about cheap no more. They live in

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01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: this bubble and they literally need they wake up in

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01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: the morning they open their eyes, how can I hate

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump today? And if they can't get a tweet

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Speaker 1: or if they can't latch onto something from one of

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Speaker 1: their other colleagues, because they all sort of circulate in

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Speaker 1: the same circles and they just regurgitate what everyone else says. Uh,

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Speaker 1: then they just they sort of break out in the

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Speaker 1: sweats and they're like addicts and they need a fix,

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Speaker 1: and they're praying and hoping that Donald Trump says or

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Speaker 1: does something that they can hate, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: intensity that I've never seen before in the history of

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Speaker 1: politics in my thirty years of covering this. Uh, my

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Speaker 1: good friend Jonathan, you know, Sean, it's um, there's a

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Speaker 1: good side to this, and I'll tell you what the

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Speaker 1: what the upside is is that these people I've been

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Speaker 1: saying this ever since the election, these people are exposing

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Speaker 1: themselves and they're exposing their relationships and they're exposing their agenda.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, whether we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: way seeing and in runs things Jake Tapper out there,

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Speaker 1: um full of opinions on Twitter and things like that,

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Speaker 1: when he's you know, putting himself up there as this

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Speaker 1: reporter who's a fact based driven reporter people like that.

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Speaker 1: Whether we're talking about the Colin Kaepernick ad with Nike,

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Speaker 1: I think what we see in these people is that

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Speaker 1: they have in the case of Nike, they budgeted for

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Speaker 1: these commercials and for the loss, and the case of

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Speaker 1: seeing Inn, they they have. They don't really care what

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Speaker 1: you and I think anymore. What they're doing is they're

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Speaker 1: going all out with their message with with this quote

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Speaker 1: unquote resistance and an organized fashion. And that's what people

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Speaker 1: need to realize. They're organized and they are pushing forward

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Speaker 1: on their agenda and right now their agenda is to

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Speaker 1: continue what Obama was doing, which was moving their socialistic,

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Speaker 1: communistic ideology forward, and Trump stepped in the middle of that.

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Speaker 1: If they did a show there was nothing but about

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Speaker 1: what Trump has done, right, people would be blown away

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Speaker 1: by this. On the left, they'll never do that. And

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Speaker 1: so what you see is an organized push that's going forward.

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Speaker 1: And the upside, like I said, is that they're all exposed.

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Speaker 1: You know they're not. But here's the thing. They will

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Speaker 1: obsessively cover quote anonymous, which it could be hundreds of people.

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Speaker 1: There's there's no telling who this might be. But yet

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Speaker 1: they don't cover us jobless claims fall to a forty

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Speaker 1: nine year low last week. We have the FED in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: They're forecasting right now four point seven percent GDP growth

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Speaker 1: for the third quarter. Trump scoring a major budget breakthrough,

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Speaker 1: and literally they're gonna write pass spending bills and and

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Speaker 1: broken the federal budget log jam which was decades worth,

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Speaker 1: the growing deficits. And they're actually gonna do the spending

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Speaker 1: bills the way they're legally supposed to, and that's department

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Speaker 1: by department rather than one big, massive packets. That's a

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Speaker 1: big deal by any objective analysis. Then I can give

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Speaker 1: you the list of accomplished. It's four million fewer Americans

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Speaker 1: on food stamps, four million new jobs, created, the greatest

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Speaker 1: growth in manufacturing jobs in thirty years in America. We

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Speaker 1: have consumer confidence all time high. Everything's happening that's good

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Speaker 1: for the country. You never hear about any of it

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Speaker 1: from your side, your friends, your Democratic buddies. Daniel, You

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Speaker 1: know what, there's also plenty that's not good that needs

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Speaker 1: to be talked to. That we have children in cages

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Speaker 1: in the southern border. Right, Okay, excuse me, let me

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Speaker 1: let me correct the record. Because the person that stopped

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Speaker 1: the practice that went on during the Obama years would

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Speaker 1: be Donald J. Trump. So if you're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the separation of family issues, let's talk about under

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Speaker 1: Obama and George W. Bush, because it happened under them too.

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Speaker 1: And when then one it was brought to the attention

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Speaker 1: of the president, the president fixed the problem something nobody

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Speaker 1: else before him did. You could say, you could say

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Speaker 1: thank you, President Trump. Go ahead. As of today, the

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Speaker 1: Trump organized as the Trump Excusing Organization, listened to me.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration decided it was going to a nor

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Speaker 1: a n court order and it was going to hold

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Speaker 1: women and children and basically in prison indefinitely until their

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Speaker 1: asylum planes are held. It's good a families are now

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Speaker 1: being kicked together, but they're still about five kids who

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Speaker 1: are either Okay, let me repeat, I didn't hear you

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Speaker 1: once during the the person that's stepped up and honestly,

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Speaker 1: what he did was kind of unconstitutional, if you want

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Speaker 1: to know the truth, because he's defying what his federal law.

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Speaker 1: But he did it because it was the right thing

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Speaker 1: to do. Because Congress can't get off their lazy asses

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Speaker 1: and go do their job. So we're gonna be blunt

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Speaker 1: and honest let's tell the whole truth. But it was

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Speaker 1: an interesting diversion away from all of the success economically

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Speaker 1: and otherwise of the president for you to do this.

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Speaker 1: As we continue with Jonathan Gillum and Danielle McLaughlin, let

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Speaker 1: me go to this Colin Kaepernick ad that is gonna

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Speaker 1: be running during some NFL games. I guess this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and uh, actually whenever they're whenever they're gonna be running them,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be watching because Saturday is my football day. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not interested in a more sick and tired

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Speaker 1: of all of it. But anyway, Colin Kaepernick, the face

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Speaker 1: of Nike, just do it. Thirty years in. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe you have to be like anybody to be somebody.

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Speaker 1: If you're born or refugee, don't let it stop you

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Speaker 1: from playing sock for the national season at age sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Don't become the best basketball player on the planet. Be

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Speaker 1: bigger than basketball. Believe in something, even if it means

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Speaker 1: sacrificing everything. Let me ask you, Danielle, So there's a

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Speaker 1: guy that had socks depicting police officers as pigs. Would

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Speaker 1: you pick him to be the face of your company?

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Speaker 1: The representative of your company. I'll say this that I

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Speaker 1: didn't say do. I ask you if it's controversial. I asked,

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Speaker 1: if you owned a company like Nike, would you pick

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, who wears cops socks depicted as pigs, as

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Speaker 1: your as as your representative? Yes? Or no? Maybe I would,

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Speaker 1: because you know what, wearing socks one time does not

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Speaker 1: make a man president some terrible things about women. Why

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Speaker 1: do you have to turn everything into Trump? Nike's paying

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Speaker 1: calling Kaepernick? By the way, do you know what calling

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick's record was the last two years in his NFL career.

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Speaker 1: I'm not three and sixteen. He went one and eleven.

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Speaker 1: Now do you think that sounds like a good NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterback with that type of record? Well, you know we're

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Speaker 1: going to find out, because he just want to motion

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Speaker 1: to the Smiths and we're gonna get all the discovery

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Speaker 1: to figure out with the NFL. I didn't ask you,

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Speaker 1: does that sound like a quarterback if you're an NFL owner,

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Speaker 1: that you want on your team? Okay, Well, if you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want him on you, if you wouldn't want him

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Speaker 1: on your team, maybe the owners decided they don't want

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Speaker 1: him on his team. What do you think Jonathan to

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Speaker 1: find out? Uh? Yeah, I think the record speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: You know. Here, let me just say this real quick.

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Speaker 1: You know again, when I when you ask me a question,

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Speaker 1: I try to answer that question. I don't try to

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Speaker 1: bring it just back to a politician and blame them

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Speaker 1: for every single thing in the world. I wish, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see you do that. Answer the question.

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: And there's the people on the left and people that

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: play these political games answer the question. Because what you're

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Speaker 1: seeing is when remember CNN was doing that commercial for

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Speaker 1: a while about this is uh an apple, it's not

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Speaker 1: a banana, so on and so forth. Seun, here's the

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Speaker 1: real life. It's not whether an apple is a banana.

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Speaker 1: It's whether or not an apple is a red juicy apple,

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Speaker 1: a red delicious apple, or a fuji apple. What they're

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Speaker 1: doing is they're lying to you about the type of apple.

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Speaker 1: That's that is how they confuse the people. There are

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Speaker 1: things going on and they they skew the facts, or

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Speaker 1: they have anonymous people come on, or they have Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernet come up here and do things. When he's wearing

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Speaker 1: Shaykavera shirts, who is a communist sucks that depict cops

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Speaker 1: his pigs. When you look at the totality of the

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Speaker 1: circumstances of all the things that these people are doing,

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Speaker 1: it's misinformation, it's lies, and it's all organized. Can I

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Speaker 1: respond because this is really important to me, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want you to think that I'm always trying to

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Speaker 1: turn this on his head. The reason I give you

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Speaker 1: another example is because I'm trying to understand where you're

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Speaker 1: really coming from. So I understand, Jonathon that Katherine wore

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Speaker 1: some socks that you don't like, any wars and clothing

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Speaker 1: that you don't like. This is about giving the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt to people that you would otherwise support.

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of things. And the reason I talk about

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Speaker 1: the president is there are plenty of things that well

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Speaker 1: meaning people I asked you about. Do you support Castro

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Speaker 1: and you turn it into Donald Trump? You can't help yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're like, you're like a Trump drug addict. You can't

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Speaker 1: help it. Would you want what do you think about

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Speaker 1: people that wear T shirts that honor murdering dictator thugs?

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Speaker 1: Would you ever wear what do you think about people

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Speaker 1: that do wear them? I think it's stupid. But I

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Speaker 1: think there's Morticlo asked, if you think it's stupid, why

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Speaker 1: would somebody honor a murdering, thug dictator. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Ask him, but there's more to him. You're the one

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Speaker 1: that's defending him, and you're defending Nike's decision. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't support Boycott's Nike can do what they want,

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Speaker 1: and I can buy Adidas a rebuk. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can do what I want, and I'm gonna watch college

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Speaker 1: football and not pro football. But that's my choice. I

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Speaker 1: don't urge anyone. Everyone makes up their own mind. You

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Speaker 1: have a choice in life. I'm pro choice. I choose

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Speaker 1: to watch college football. What do you choose to watch?

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Well? I want to ask Daniel something. You know,

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Speaker 1: she was in court as a defense attorney and her

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Speaker 1: client walked in wearing a bright red Uh I love

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Speaker 1: communist China or I love Kim john Un and she's

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Speaker 1: trying to defend him in some kind of um, some

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Speaker 1: kind of thing that has to do with import export stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that a jury or a

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Speaker 1: judge would not look upon that person and say that

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Speaker 1: shirt directly reflects the person that he is and the

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Speaker 1: values that he holds. Wouldn't you think that if they

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Speaker 1: walked in and I was worrying? So this is we're

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Speaker 1: we're actually an agreement. Of course I would say that.

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Speaker 1: Of course I think it's stupid to do that, but

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Speaker 1: we have to think about and that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: We got to end it there. Thank you both, A

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Speaker 1: D nine one Sean, you want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the program at the bottom of this hour, Peter Schweitzer,

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Speaker 1: way do you hear how creepy you know? Places like

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Speaker 1: Google and Facebook are that's next? Google and Facebook. They

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Speaker 1: don't sell you anything. They sell you. These are all

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Speaker 1: free services, but obviously they're not. Your interaction with the

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Speaker 1: misgoverned so that it will generate revenue. You give Google

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Speaker 1: a lot of information. You're searching for the most private

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Speaker 1: stuff on Google and things that your wife, my the

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Speaker 1: spouse might not want you to know about. Facebook constantly

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Speaker 1: manipulates their users. They do it by the things that

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Speaker 1: they insert into the news fees, and they do it

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Speaker 1: by the types of hosts they allow their users to see.

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Speaker 1: They can suppress certain types of results diced on what

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Speaker 1: they think you should be seeing, by on what your

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Speaker 1: followers earth is. I think it's what Google and Facebook

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Speaker 1: are doing on regular basis by suppressing stories, by steering

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Speaker 1: us towards other stories rather than the story we're actually seeking.

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Speaker 1: That's the real manipulation that's going on. I was a

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Speaker 1: designed ethicistic Google, where I studied how do you ethically

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Speaker 1: fear people's stocks? It will always favor one online music

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Speaker 1: service over another, and one candidate over another. Google and

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Speaker 1: Facebook has the power to undermine democracy without us knowing

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Speaker 1: that democracy has been undermine. There's what I call the

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Speaker 1: creepy line. And the Google policy about a lot of

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Speaker 1: these things is to get right up for the creepy line,

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Speaker 1: but not cross it. Google crosses the creepy line every day,

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Speaker 1: all right. That's the trailer for by the Way to

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Speaker 1: the Top of the Hour for a brand new documentary.

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Speaker 1: It's called the creepy line. Now. That was a actual

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Speaker 1: statement that was made by Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google,

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Speaker 1: was quoted in the New York Times back in in March.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is creepy that we go up to

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Speaker 1: the creepy line. And you know, with all the hearings

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Speaker 1: that have been taking place, most Americans have no idea

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Speaker 1: how How does Google make their money? How does Facebook

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Speaker 1: make their money? These think, Oh I get a free

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Speaker 1: Gmail account, Oh I get to I get a free

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Speaker 1: Internet search. I just bring up Google. I don't pay

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Speaker 1: anything for it. I don't pay a penny for it. Um,

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Speaker 1: yeah you do. How much do you pay? How do

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Speaker 1: you pay? How much privacy are you giving up in

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Speaker 1: exchange for the opportunity to Google search anything that you

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Speaker 1: want and have at the tip of your fingers any

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Speaker 1: information you want anyway. The title for this documentary comes

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Speaker 1: from the speech by Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, said

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Speaker 1: the company's policy was get to get right up to

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Speaker 1: the creepy line and not cross it. Well, how do

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Speaker 1: you determine a creepy line? You know? You say, well, pornography,

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Speaker 1: I know when I see it is the creepy line.

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Speaker 1: Something you know when you see it? Anyway? It interviews

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: in this documentary documentary several high profile figures, including a

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Speaker 1: Canadian clinical psychologist by the name of Jordan Peterson, who

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Speaker 1: explained how these tech giants really hold great power that

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Speaker 1: threatened the fabric of society. Uh, these services that they

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Speaker 1: say are free are obviously not, because your interaction with

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Speaker 1: all of these services is governed so it will generate revenue. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: joining us now is Peter Schweitzer and Peter of course

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Speaker 1: with the Government Accountability Institute. Good to see my friend.

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Speaker 1: Now you're moving into the movie business again. Great to

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Speaker 1: be here with you, Sean. Thanks for having all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's because a lot of people I think, like myself.

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Speaker 1: I go to Google. I Google this, I google that.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of my show. Somebody asked me

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Speaker 1: what it's so, and so say back in I can

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Speaker 1: google it and I'll find it great service. I like it,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um. I mostly now let my social me

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Speaker 1: to you, be guided by my team, and I don't

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Speaker 1: have late night Twitter rans and fights like I used

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Speaker 1: to because it takes too much time and effort. It's

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01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: gotten too ugly, frankly, and where it used to be fun,

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Speaker 1: it's not. But let's walk through how deep they get

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Speaker 1: into our lives in the process of giving us something

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Speaker 1: quote for free. That's a great question, Sean. And the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is Google, this large corporation run by these individuals,

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Speaker 1: knows far more about you than the most intimate person

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Speaker 1: in your life, your parents, your spouse, uh, your boyfriend

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Speaker 1: or girlfriend. They know everything because they know if you're

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Speaker 1: searching for medical information, if you're you know, searching for

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Speaker 1: do they put the name with the person or they do?

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Speaker 1: They do? They know who the person is. They know

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Speaker 1: based on the print of so they know, Sean Hannity correct.

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Speaker 1: Although the problem is I have my staff using my

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Speaker 1: accounts all the time, right right, So, but but whoever's

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Speaker 1: connected with the IP address? So if sweet baby James

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Speaker 1: is looking for creepy things on the internet, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: I guess if he's doing it in my name on

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Speaker 1: my account, that makes me look bad. That's right, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna figure you, Sean, That's exactly how that has been

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Speaker 1: with me for twenty seven years. And I know he

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Speaker 1: looks for creepy things on the internet. So yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the this is the problem. These

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Speaker 1: companies know these things. Um And you know, some people

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Speaker 1: in the younger generations say, I don't care about privacy.

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Speaker 1: But here's the issue. It's not just that they have

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Speaker 1: the information, it's that they can use that information and

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Speaker 1: weaponize it against you. Uh. And this has already been done.

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Speaker 1: You see people that have been banned, that have been blocked,

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Speaker 1: you've seen instances where information about people has been leaked

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Speaker 1: based on their search history. So you're vulnerable. And the

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Speaker 1: question is are you going to trust this large corporation

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Speaker 1: that not only has the interest of all corporations, which

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Speaker 1: is making money, which is great. They have an agenda.

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Speaker 1: They have an agenda that's very clear and specific. It's

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Speaker 1: embedded into the company, and that agenda really runs contray

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Speaker 1: ary to a lot of the beliefs and ideas that

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Speaker 1: most Americans have. For example, Jack at Jacket Twitter, he

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Speaker 1: actually sat down to an interview with us. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about about privacy and shadow banning and

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Speaker 1: and some of the other practices. He was very honest

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Speaker 1: in this sense by admitting they have not perfected any

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Speaker 1: of this by any stretch, and so much of what

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Speaker 1: they do, for example, on Twitter, is these algorithms that

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Speaker 1: they put together. Um, but you're saying it runs deeper

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Speaker 1: than that. So somebody works at Google and hate Sean Hannity, Right,

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Speaker 1: They could get into my Gmail account. Yes, absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: could see every email I've ever sent or received. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am somebody who has used Gmail for years. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to stop using I am I have stopped using Gmail.

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Speaker 1: Because here's gonna use I'm going to use the the

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Speaker 1: email that's associated with my organization. Uh, you can use

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Speaker 1: something like you know, go old school and use a

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Speaker 1: O L. You can use other entities you don't want

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Speaker 1: to use. You think all of those things are safe

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Speaker 1: as a O well safe as yes, yes, Apple. Apple,

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: for example, does not monetize the use of your information.

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01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: Google's entire business model is based on collecting all this

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Speaker 1: information about Sean Hannity and then either selling it to

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Speaker 1: advertisers or using it in a way that they can monetize. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what if you set up a fake Gmail account?

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Speaker 1: You can you can set up a fake Gmail account

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Speaker 1: and it's really depends what I p address it's associated with.

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Speaker 1: If you go on your laptop or you go on

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Speaker 1: your iPhone and you act and figure it out, they

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Speaker 1: figure out who that is absolutely yeah, So what are

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Speaker 1: those safer places than for people to do email and

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth? You know, because most people

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Speaker 1: I don't think are like me. All of my every

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Speaker 1: one of my accounts is open to everybody that works

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Speaker 1: for me. And in other words, it could be any

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Speaker 1: person that is writing or texting on my behalf that's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, And and I literally have given up

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Speaker 1: private accounts, I've given up phone numbers, I've given up everything.

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Speaker 1: This is a man who trusts his staff, by the way.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's what I'm saying. That's good, that's well,

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Speaker 1: I'll find out. But with my staff, who did it?

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Speaker 1: All right? But but the key thing to keep in

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Speaker 1: mind with Gmail, for example, is Gmail not only knows

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Speaker 1: all the emails you've sent, all the emails you've received.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you wrote a rant in an email and

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Speaker 1: you decided I'm not going to send it, and it's

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Speaker 1: just as a draft. They've read that. They know what's

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Speaker 1: in that draft. What do you mean they've read it?

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Speaker 1: How many They scanned them? They scanned them. They electronically

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Speaker 1: scanned them. So, for example, if you I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: pick a commercial example, if I were to send you

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Speaker 1: an email and say, Sean, I'm thinking about buying a Toyota,

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Speaker 1: Google knows that and will sell to Toda Toyota um

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Speaker 1: advertising space based on the fact that they now know

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Speaker 1: that I'm looking for a Toyota. All right, that's past

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Speaker 1: the creepy line. Yes it is, it is, But is

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Speaker 1: it actual people or is it just a program that

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Speaker 1: they use. It's it's an algorithm, it's machines. It's machines

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Speaker 1: that are scanning in their for certain keywords, but also

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Speaker 1: human beings can intervene. So we talked about Jordan Peterson,

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Speaker 1: this professor at the University of Toronto, you know, very

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Speaker 1: famous now with a lot of things that he's done

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. UM. In his particular case, he took a

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Speaker 1: stand against a law in Canada that was going to

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Speaker 1: force you to use the preferred gender um identifier for

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Speaker 1: a person that they wanted, and he objected to this

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Speaker 1: law on First Amendment grounds. Um. You know, very calm,

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Speaker 1: cerebral guy. He took that position. The next day, Sean,

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Speaker 1: he was locked out of his Gmail and his YouTube

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Speaker 1: accounts were shut off. And what he was basically told was, yes,

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Speaker 1: a machine did it, but then a person sort of

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Speaker 1: backed up that decision. So based on his political beliefs,

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Speaker 1: they shut him out of his Gmail account and shut

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Speaker 1: him out of YouTube. He ended up getting it restored

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Speaker 1: because he had friends in the media and he created this.

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Speaker 1: But the point is there are employees at YouTube and

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Speaker 1: elsewhere that can make arbitrary decisions. I don't like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know it isn't Eric Schmidt mean, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: part of the user agreement that nobody ever reads. Right, right,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. They have the right to to censor

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Speaker 1: all all the two they share this information with the government,

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Speaker 1: they can, yes, absolutely, And who are the companies? I

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Speaker 1: think it's best for people to know what are the

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Speaker 1: safer companies for people to deal with, because you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I just got a copy of of The Creepy Line,

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Speaker 1: and I know it's a documentary. Where are people are

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Speaker 1: able to see this? But um, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: released September seventeen. That's going to be available on iTunes

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Speaker 1: and elsewhere you can you can purchase that. We're doing

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Speaker 1: a screening in New York and d C as well.

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Speaker 1: Um and we expect there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: interest in Washington on this. But look, if you want

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Speaker 1: to do search, use something like duck duck go. Do

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Speaker 1: not use Google, Um, do not use never heard of

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Speaker 1: duck duck go. What does duck duck go? Duck duck go?

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Speaker 1: And I have no financial interest in this? Doug is

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Speaker 1: that like Yahoo? Is that? Like? Well, see, here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yahoo uses Google, so it's search, so you're you're not

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Speaker 1: getting away from them by doing it. So the best

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Speaker 1: one is duck duck. That they don't practice these that's right.

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Speaker 1: How do they make their that's one example. Um, they

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Speaker 1: do it. You'll see ads on the side, but it's

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Speaker 1: not based on forward, it's not based on that's taking

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Speaker 1: your information and selling it, that's right. What about email?

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Speaker 1: So email? Um, Apple products are very good. Apple does

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Speaker 1: not monetize so anything in Apple. I don't think Apple

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Speaker 1: has a email address. Well, you can with with certain

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Speaker 1: eye Cloud for example, and other entities and Nightcloud account. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you could do it through an eye Cloud account. They

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Speaker 1: save that information forever. Apple. Apple does not. Apple does

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Speaker 1: not monetize emails, and they delete that information after a

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Speaker 1: while because Apple is primarily they're selling products, right, they're

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Speaker 1: selling cloud services and products. What about you mentioned a

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Speaker 1: O L. Why are they safe? Well, A O L

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Speaker 1: is safe because again they don't have the same business

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Speaker 1: model that Google does. Google basically says we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you your information. No, they don't scan the information. They

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Speaker 1: have the best safety technology. For example, it's so hard

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Speaker 1: the FBI couldn't even break into if Apple if you want, yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right. But if you want to go the hyper

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Speaker 1: encryption rate, there's an email service called proton Mainte yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is very very good out of Switzerland. But the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is people need to be aware of this,

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Speaker 1: and people need to be aware. It's not just a

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Speaker 1: privacy issue. They will know your political profile, of your beliefs,

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Speaker 1: and they will filter information to you to steer you

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Speaker 1: in the direction that you may not be inclined. What

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Speaker 1: about these encryption services, um, what do you call them?

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Speaker 1: Signal and all that stuff. Those those are very good

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Speaker 1: ways to communicate as well. And that information is not

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Speaker 1: is not retained now proton Mail, when you say it's

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Speaker 1: not retained, they don't retain it at all. That's wrong,

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Speaker 1: that's right. What about Snapchat? Snapchat, same thing that basically disappears. Um,

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Speaker 1: which one do you use? I'm just I use I

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Speaker 1: use Signal, and I use proton mail. And then the

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Speaker 1: server that we use for the Government Accountability Institute, we

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Speaker 1: do not use Google technology there people that The bottom

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Speaker 1: line is, Look, Google makes it attractive because it's low

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Speaker 1: cost or free, uh, and it's very very useful, but

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Speaker 1: people have to use uh, duc duct go is that.

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Speaker 1: Uh is it well in that particular case, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get the same services as good. Yeah, it's the

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Speaker 1: search is not quite as good. I mean that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Google is the big monster here. So but

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Speaker 1: my point is it gonna make my staff do it

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Speaker 1: and then it's gonna show up on their account. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean my point is, if you're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: sensitive search on subjects that you don't want Google to

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Speaker 1: know about, do it on something else. You can do

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Speaker 1: it on Firefox, but of course Firefox sometimes uses Google,

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Speaker 1: but use Firefox or duc duco. Do not use Google

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Speaker 1: for sensitive searches because they will maintain that information on you.

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Speaker 1: All right. So the documentary it's called The Creepy Line,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta see it. Uh, And of course were's

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Speaker 1: the best place to get the trailer. We'll put it

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Speaker 1: up on Hannity dot com. Yeah, the Creepy Line Dodges

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Google, um, apparently unbeknownst to me.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think it's an opportunity to people, for

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Speaker 1: people to understand just how intrusive this all is. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly right, all right. Peter Schweitzer, Government Accountability Institute thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Thanks all right, one, Sean, Uh,

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Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back an incredible Hannity tonight,

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Speaker 1: Breaking news all over the place. John Solomon will be

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Speaker 1: breaking a story. Sarah Carter's Breaking News tonight nine eastern

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Speaker 1: on Fox Search. Warrant you need an affidavit signed by

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Speaker 1: a career federal law enforcement officer who swears that the

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Speaker 1: information in the affidavit is true and correct to the

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Speaker 1: best of his knowledge and belief. Uh. And that's the

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Speaker 1: way we operate. And if it's wrong sometimes it is.

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Speaker 1: If you find out there's anything incorrect in there, that

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Speaker 1: person is going to face consequences. Right. That's Rod Rosenstein.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot more on all of this

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Speaker 1: new breaking developments, this house of cards about to literally

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Speaker 1: fold as the President contemplating releasing all these important documents.

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Speaker 1: We'll have the latest on Hannity tonight nine Eastern on

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Speaker 1: the Fox News Channel. We'll load it up tonight, Greg Sarah,

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Speaker 1: John Solomon with his breaking news report. We'll get to tonight,

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Speaker 1: Mark Pan New Gingrich, Dr Gorka, David Shone. So you

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Speaker 1: d v R Hannity. Oh, and the President has a

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Speaker 1: rally I think it's going on during our hour. We'll

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Speaker 1: be watching that closely as well, nine Eastern Hannity on Fox,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see at nine back here tomorrow. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us.