WEBVTT - Take the Teat

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe he can't take the teat Susan, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take the teeth for one thousand, Alex.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to make sure we heard that right.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he can't take the teet Susan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Katie Green back from maternity leave, joins us only

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<v Speaker 3>one more thing podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I am just so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm uncomfortable even saying this sentence. But are we talking

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<v Speaker 3>about your teeth?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're fine, We're talking about my breasts. Hanson.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have a hell of a time with this

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm pissed. I am so sick of this just judgmental.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's a a comment I won't say from which

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<v Speaker 1>social media outlet? Are you breastfeeding? Quote end quote? I

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<v Speaker 1>sure hope. So you waited so long, so make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you do it right, all right, Susan, that's not her name.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the deal. I was induced.

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<v Speaker 1>I also went through an emergency C section, which delays

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<v Speaker 1>your milk production, and I had a really big problem

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<v Speaker 1>producing breast milk. So I tried and tried and tried

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<v Speaker 1>and drove myself into a pit trying to get them

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<v Speaker 1>to do what I wanted them to do, and My

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<v Speaker 1>doctor said, hey, you know what fed is fed.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna put them on formula. You can combo feed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was getting like a very small amount of

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<v Speaker 1>breast milk, so I'm putting that in with his formula,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's getting the benefits of it and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>Super that the judgment on.

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<v Speaker 1>Women who don't slash cannot breastfeed is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most fucking obnoxious things I've encountered this entire time.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, yeah, the women anger, Come on, give me a break.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't tell me what to do. You're not me, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus, my son has a tongue tie so he

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<v Speaker 1>can't latch. He has a tongue tie, like directly in

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<v Speaker 1>what it does. It's a web that attaches his tongue

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of his mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>It wanted us to do surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>My other doctor said, don't do it because sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>repairs itself. So I'm not trying to cut my son

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<v Speaker 1>in ways that aren't necessary.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't tell me what to do and tell me, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you're doing it right. Just suck it.

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<v Speaker 3>The neus in, you idiot. The never ending evolvement of

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<v Speaker 3>parenthood from pregnancy on through I'm guessing the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>my life. A lot of it is it was my

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<v Speaker 3>first big encounter in the world with you just gotta

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<v Speaker 3>ignore people. I mean, at some point it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know my situation. I'm not gonna argue about

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<v Speaker 3>it with you. There's lots of details. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>all my details. You don't know all your details. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, And I've I've been very transparent about the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing the entire time.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys know, I've been talking to it about you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>On this show that does become a problem because you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about something and you just kind of want to

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<v Speaker 3>share it as maybe a universal but people come.

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<v Speaker 4>In with all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't give all your information because on some of

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<v Speaker 3>it's private or mane of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But so you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know all of it. You just you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe, you actually weren't here the last time that

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Jack, but my and it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I wanted to put out there

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't even know it was a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But postpartum anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always heard of postpartum depression and all this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been dealing with post part of anxiety. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking to doctors and like trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>that under control because my blood pressure and all the

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<v Speaker 1>things just through the roof, and I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to handle that while also trying to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good mom. And then it's like these little things that

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<v Speaker 1>usually I would just toss in the trash and not

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<v Speaker 1>give a holy s about, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know, you waited so long, do it right?

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<v Speaker 1>What is right to your, right to you, is not

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<v Speaker 1>right to me, So you can absolutely take that and

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm doing all the hand gestures of the up

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<v Speaker 1>years and.

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<v Speaker 2>Go because there's less editing involved if you do that. Yeah, yeah, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>dang it. It dawns on me that all my kids

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<v Speaker 2>were born prior to the ear of social media.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, different world.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, why are you looking at social media?

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<v Speaker 2>But then the answer as well, because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of all the different social media because we all take

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<v Speaker 2>a glance.

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<v Speaker 1>At it, you know, semi regularly, and it's how I've

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in contact with our listeners while I've been gone

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<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, take that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Your fa mistake and no shit, well people are like normal,

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<v Speaker 4>good people. But there is the I mean that you

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't believe when I had.

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<v Speaker 3>Cancer, the number of I hope you dies I got.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it's more than you would think

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<v Speaker 3>you'd get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, shouldn't that Yeah, more than you'd think you'd

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<v Speaker 2>get exactly, So.

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<v Speaker 4>You just yeah, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>My sweet son is beautiful, he's happy, he's healthy, he's fed,

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<v Speaker 1>he is getting the benefits of breast milk through combo feeding.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, uh, there's something called colostrum, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>comes out before breast milk. There's a bunch of that,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's not missing any of those antibodies or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just it's these little moments where people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you waited so wrong, do it right?

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<v Speaker 4>Really, hope you're breastfeeding. Just just shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>With all with all of it. When I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>right mood, I can take it. And this doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be uh, you know, social media, just in general people.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like most people once they become a parent,

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<v Speaker 3>for a while they're like, oh, I see this is

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<v Speaker 3>way harder than I thought it was. Every kid is

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<v Speaker 3>completely different, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stop any opinions on anything I've ever seen ever happen

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<v Speaker 3>because most people, But that's why I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>most people. I feel like that's what you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>naturally come to. You realize, oh, every kid's different. So

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<v Speaker 3>when I saw, you know, pre having kids, when I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a kid acting up in the store, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily because the parents were doing.

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<v Speaker 4>A bad job.

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<v Speaker 2>You have no idea what's going.

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<v Speaker 3>On it anyway, So most people you end up being

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<v Speaker 3>less like friends I have who are already parents, like

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<v Speaker 3>offer no judgment most of the time on anything, but

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<v Speaker 3>not everybody. As Joe just said, some people feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it's licensed to really weigh in all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of our discussion of people who listen

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<v Speaker 2>to watch videos with their phone without earbuds or headphones,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the audio loud in public, at a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>in a gate, at an airport, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same people who will still weigh in knowing nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>your situation. With certainty. I think I swear to God,

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<v Speaker 2>those two behaviors are tied, right, yes, oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess what blows my mind. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of moms who have been like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't want to hear this, but and then

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<v Speaker 1>insert unnecessary like future advice here. It's like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact that when you were pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>or you had just had your baby, the second anybody

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<v Speaker 1>did this to you, it just irritated the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of you.

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<v Speaker 4>So why Like I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Never see myself if one of my friends got pregnant tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never be like, oh you just you just.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, like that's not that's not you know, right right right,

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<v Speaker 4>right right.

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<v Speaker 3>I can I can judge myself on where I am

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<v Speaker 3>in my spiritual fitness on these things. When I'm doing well,

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<v Speaker 3>I can take these the way they're intended. This is

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<v Speaker 3>someone who is trying to help me and make my

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<v Speaker 3>life better.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this person was not trying to pin or make

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<v Speaker 4>my life better. This was judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm not spiritually fit, I only take it as judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>You think you're smarter than me, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>fight you. So it's usually one of those two things.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like Jack is judging Katie right here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you breastfeeding? Quote end quote. I hope, so

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<v Speaker 1>you waited so long, so do it right. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not breastfeeding, I'm not doing it right. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can take that and you know, do with it what

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<v Speaker 1>you will. But I mean it, everybody's family is different.

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<v Speaker 1>My sweet baby had to be on a supplemented formula

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<v Speaker 1>he because he was born so small and had to

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<v Speaker 1>be whisked away to the nick you immediately, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted us to up his calories, so we did

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<v Speaker 1>that with formula.

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<v Speaker 4>Sue me.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, right, Yeah, I think yes, I think it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for father Joe to weigh in with his counseling. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, yeah, it's it's well, and you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of stuff neuropsychologically that that we're not at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know you're lack dating.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't going to talk about it on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been seeing the dots on his shirt from

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<v Speaker 1>his nipples earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get the pants. There's a balance to

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<v Speaker 2>be struck between being a bitter, hateful hermit on the

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<v Speaker 2>one hand and letting idiots' comments.

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<v Speaker 4>Get to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not need to justify yourself to anyone but

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<v Speaker 2>your baby and your husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I'm using this strictly for this podcast, like you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've read worse than this over the last

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<v Speaker 1>three months.

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<v Speaker 4>The busy bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the world recognized themselves having even heard this in

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<v Speaker 2>its entirety. Yeah, are they immune to that as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this will probably go right over this person's head,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, but it was just something

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<v Speaker 1>that caught my eye in the sense of, like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm a new mom, and i know this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time, but I'm also I'm not tone deaf,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm listening to my doctors, my doctors and his doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>So and yeah, I am dealing with some weird, weird stuff. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I have And I texted you if you got more

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<v Speaker 1>than a few times while I've been off where I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of episodes where I just I

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<v Speaker 1>lost it. I felt disconnected. I felt like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even here and it was a thing that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know existed. Like when it hit me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've never heard of this before. I've heard of

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<v Speaker 1>postpartum depression where you get sad, and I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of this like manic ang chiss moment that can hit.

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<v Speaker 1>And once I looked into it, I realized that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a one in five thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, And I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that was one of the things I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, when I'm gonna come back and we

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<v Speaker 1>do our podcast or we go on the air, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that it's something that's addressed, because like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's one in five, I'm not the only person

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't have any idea that this existed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for ratings purposes, if you could crack a mic

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<v Speaker 3>anytime you feel this coming on and make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>record it just like lose your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, absolutely, that would be so much work for Hanson's.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, thank you, Jack. Jack's the one that wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to sell my contractions, by the way, so we'll just

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to sponsor them. Yeah, we were gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Spire this contraction brought to you by you know, Elk

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<v Speaker 1>grove Ford.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of how to deal with it, I wish

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<v Speaker 3>Joe could explain a little more of this bitter, hateful

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<v Speaker 3>hermit lifestyle. It's got an appeal to me like that

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<v Speaker 3>might be my.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweet it's ignoring it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't give them the gratification that I'm giving

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<v Speaker 1>it right now, which usually I wouldn't. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in this for twenty years, and usually I wouldn't give

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<v Speaker 1>this person my time of day.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like it happens so much to moms.

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<v Speaker 2>And so here's a variation on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to.

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<v Speaker 2>Run into people now and again. They'd, you know, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>find out who I was and what I did for

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<v Speaker 2>a living, and they'd say, oh, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 2>get this once in a while, Yeah, your show really

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<v Speaker 2>isn't my cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't really like it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I cared about the relationship with a person

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<v Speaker 2>or it came up in conversation, I would explain to people.

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<v Speaker 2>And these numbers are outdated because radio, my god, has

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<v Speaker 2>changed completely. Podcasting is obviously taken over to a large

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<v Speaker 2>extent blah blah blah, but it used to be back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day. That's certainly in a major market, if

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<v Speaker 2>you could regularly get one percent of listening audience one percent,

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<v Speaker 2>you could make a living. If you can get two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>You can make a really good living. If you got

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<v Speaker 2>five percent, you would get rich, wealthy five percent. And

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<v Speaker 2>my response was, you're in the ninety five percent.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine. It doesn't make me mad. I'm not sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not disappointed. You're in the ninety five percent. It

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<v Speaker 2>does not matter to you. Those people are in the

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five percent who are wrong or you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>or they're dopes, or they're they got no like concept

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<v Speaker 2>of when their opinion is welcome when it's not. You're

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<v Speaker 2>in the ninety five percent, and it's more like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine point nine percent because the circle of people you

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<v Speaker 2>ought to care about what they think is very very

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<v Speaker 2>small if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have four of them in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have my husband and my parents and

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<v Speaker 1>my in laws.

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<v Speaker 4>That's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you go down to the bus station

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<v Speaker 2>commit a triple murder, you don't need strangers to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>The people you care about will tell you what's wrong right.

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<v Speaker 2>And the stuff only that very small circle knows about

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. You can count on them.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't worry about this, I will tell you, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>The old ladies that love me with my little baby

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<v Speaker 1>and my stroller everywhere I go. I was walking through

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking through a parking lot last week with Van.

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<v Speaker 4>We had just gone to lunch, and these two ladies

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<v Speaker 4>looked at me and they had to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Been in their mid eighties. One of them had a walker,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one with the walker went, you go girl,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like yeah, and she came over and she looked

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<v Speaker 1>at bad and she's like, he is such an angel,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the amount of the amount of good outweighs

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<v Speaker 1>the bad bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, a trillion.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just I don't know, Like I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and I was like, you know, more moms get

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<v Speaker 1>hit with this bsan than gets addressed.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that way when I see people like clearly

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<v Speaker 3>starting out their family, think, oh, that is so awesome

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<v Speaker 3>through that period of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's he's such a good baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we sat at lunch the other day for

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<v Speaker 1>like an hour and a half and he just sat

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<v Speaker 1>there and kind of looked around and he's just started

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<v Speaker 1>to cool and social smile. So when I get like

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<v Speaker 1>really close to his face, his eyes like change and

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<v Speaker 1>they light up and he's just oh, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so in love.

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<v Speaker 4>It's obnoxious. It's obnoxious.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, and don't ruin that feeling by beating

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<v Speaker 2>Susan with both your fits, leaving her with a bloody nose.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's why I brought it to you, guys. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not in here right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Figuring out where she lives, going to her house, slashing her.

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<v Speaker 2>Head like she was the light bag. No, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I already found her. Oh my life, it's extended.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, deepreps, deeprep.

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<v Speaker 4>That was here tired of floting. Hey, he don't worry

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<v Speaker 4>about other people. Hey, how many times are a day

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<v Speaker 4>do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feed Van?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>God, I don't know how many times a day, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that it almost three months. He is

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<v Speaker 1>taking twenty eight to thirty ounces of food a day.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're starving your child.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, just you know, Michael, Michael, I will come in

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<v Speaker 1>there and I will choke slam you.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, I guess that's it. You're not feeding

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<v Speaker 4>him enough. Shut up, Jack,