1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: Matt's and today we're discussing developing a home buying strategy. 3 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: This episode is dedicated to everyone who has purchased a 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: home or who is considering purchasing a home. Did that 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of sound like an ad like this episode has 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: brought to you by home buying. Yeah, the general ability 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: to buy a home. We're gonna talk about that, and 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Matt strategy is it's such an important part of buying 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a home. I think it's something that people don't consider 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: enough and it can leave you over pain right for 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: the most expensive purchase you'll ever make in your life. 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: So there's an important topic for us to tackle. Absolutely. Man, 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of what we're going to talk 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: about in this episode. I never even can ordered back 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: when Kate and I bought our first house over ten 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: years ago, and so I wish that we had been 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: challenged in the way that we are going to challenge 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: our listeners today. So I'm excited to get to that, man. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: But first, I've got a quick little frugal or cheap 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: for you. How do you feel about keeping something that 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: you got on sale if it doesn't fit perfect perfectly well, 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Because here I'll give you a little bit of backround 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: while you consider. I got a nice jackets on sale 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: from a website that sells discounted outdoor clothing, and it's 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: a really nice jacket, and it was on tremendous sale, 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: and these kind of jackets never go on sale by 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: this particular company. It was over off, and so I pounced. 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: I thought, man, that's a great looking jacket. But the 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: thing is, it doesn't fit me the way I wished 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: it would fit me, and so that bums me out. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit torn because I did get 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: such a good deal on it. So what are your 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: thoughts if I were to keep this jacket even though 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't fit me so well? In my being cheap? 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a cheap move. And and here's why 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I've completely changed my tune on this. I used to 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: be all about paying a rock bottom price and if 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: it was something that I got, if it was I 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: think we've talked about this before. If it was like 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: an eleven dollar pair jeans, I'm gonna keep it, but 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear them. And they just sit in 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: my drawer and you can't wash them. Otherwise they dissolve exactly. 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: So I think sometimes buying something on sale, getting a 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: great deal, I used to hold that in like the 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: highest esteem, and and then that just led to clutter 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: in my house and in my life. And so yeah, 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I would recommend uh sending back, either getting a size 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: that fits you better, or finding just another jacket, maybe 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: that that you're actually gonna wear. I know, at least 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: for me, if it doesn't fit me, well, I'm not 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna wear it, And so it's a complete waste of money. 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Maybe some people don't care as much about the fit 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, it's a little bag, who cares. 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear it anyway. But but for me, it's like, man, 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: if it doesn't fit me, well, I'm not wearing it. Yeah. 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's because you and I are both 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: like two skinny guys, and so it really is important 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: to me as well, Like I would rather wear a 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: shirt that I am less excited about wearing from like 60 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: a color or graphic or material stepoint pink with unicorns 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: on it takes me really well, I'm gonna wear it. 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: So I kind of agree with you. I'm of the 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: mindset of sending it back because it does in my 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: mind depending on the product. If it's something that's I 65 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: don't care much about. So for instance, I recently bought 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: like a bike light. I just picked one up that 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: was really cheap that had really great reviews. Like I 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: don't care about the brand. I don't care what other 69 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: features it has. It just needs to be able to 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: light up on the front, you know, for the handlebars 71 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: and the little red light on the back. It just 72 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: needs to blink, Like I really do not care. Uh, 73 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: And you might think that I would care because it's 74 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: bike related. As long as the cars can see you 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: and you can see the road exactly when it comes 76 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: to fit, I wanted to to sit a certain way 77 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: and especially to man like in the winter, I wear 78 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: jackets basically all the time, Like I just wear like 79 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: a T shirt and I wear a jacket over and 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: so basically that's like my all time shirt, Like it's 81 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: what people see. And so in that case, I'm willing 82 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: to pay a little bit more to have something that 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: I am excited to wear, not something that I you know, 84 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I am not excited to wear, or even worst case scenario, 85 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: like you said, it just sits around ends up cluttering 86 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: your house and then you end up selling it for 87 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, like ten bucks at the yard sale. Yeah, 88 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and I think sometimes, I don't know, maybe some people 89 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: replace their jacket every winter every season. No, no, I'm 90 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: talking five ten years baby, right. I know you're not, 91 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: but I'm sure some people do that. Right. But but 92 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: you and I especially, we live in Atlanta, so like 93 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the winner is not that cold, pretty mild, you know, 94 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: we can we can if we find the right jacket 95 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: that looks good, and then we can wear the that 96 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: same jacket for yeah, ten years. I know I have 97 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: most of the jackets I own, I've owned for about 98 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: a decade, and you know, I probably only have two 99 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: or three because again, it doesn't get super cold down here. 100 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: But that's just another factor. The more that you love 101 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: that jacket, you're drawn to it it fits well, Uh, 102 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter even if you didn't get it on 103 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: at off sale. If you're gonna get more years out 104 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: of it and you're gonna enjoy wearing it, then I 105 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: think that's an important consideration. Nice. I'm glad we are 106 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: on the same page. I've got it right here in 107 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: the back of my chair. Do you notice I was 108 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: trying it out here in the office to see how 109 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: how it felt and whatnot. But I don't don't cut 110 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the tags office yet. All right, let's go ahead and 111 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: introduce our beer for this episode. We are drinking a 112 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Labonte with figs and this is a beer by Wicked Wheat. 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: This is a great brewery out of Asheville, North Carolina, 114 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Beer City, USA. I'm looking forward to sharing this one 115 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: with you, buddy, and talking about it at the end 116 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: of the episode. Labonte sounds fran labonte. It is all right, yeah, 117 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: so you're saying that word. Yeah, right, it's labonte. It's cute. 118 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get onto the subject at Handmatt. We're 119 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: talking about developing a home buying strategy. And it's interesting 120 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: because millennials, like they've often been considered to be behind 121 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the curve when it comes to home buying. But now 122 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: that generation, the generation of millennials, the people in their 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: twenties and up to what eight uh, those people are 124 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: starting to get into the idea of homeownership in a 125 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: meaningful way. And the average price of a new home 126 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: it now exceeds thousand dollars. Crazy. Yeah, we recently just 127 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: crossed that line. There are lots of things to consider 128 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: in order to make a wise purchase, and at the 129 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: same time, interest rates are at all time lows. That 130 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: creates this feeling I think for a lot of people 131 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: like you have to move quickly before those rates start 132 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: to creep back up. But if you move too quickly, 133 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: you can make some missteps. So let's talk about the 134 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: home buying process today, Matt, and what it looks like 135 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: to have a solid strategy in place so that our 136 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: list seners can make a smart purchase, one that's going 137 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: to serve them well for years to come, and not 138 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: a hasty purchase that's still conceived. Kind of like your jacket. 139 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't hasty, it was well thought out, you know, 140 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: and I pounced on the sale. But sometimes you can't 141 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: tell the fit until you get it in personally. I 142 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: felt the need to throw that in there, ruffle my 143 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: feathers a little bit. Uh. And So another reason that 144 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: home buying right, why this is so important to get right, 145 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: is that because once typical Americans purchased their first home, 146 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: a large portion of their wealth is instantly tied up 147 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: in that home right nearly, and as folks get older, 148 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: that percentage only increases. Households where folks are older than 149 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: seventy five have nearly half of their wealth as equity 150 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: in their primary residence. Now, this isn't necessarily a good 151 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: thing because it's tricky, you know, to survive off of 152 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: your home equity when you retire. You can't eat your 153 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: house unless you're a gingerbread man. I guess, yeah, but 154 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: then or with a helock. But he likes take time. 155 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: And as we've seen now that they're not readily available, 156 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of banks and credit unions are not offering them. 157 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: And even then you're paying money to access that that wealth, 158 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: it's tied up. Yeah. Yeah, And so whether we like 159 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: it or not, though, that's the reality for most folks. 160 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: But by developing a strategy for your home purchase, our 161 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: goal is that you'll you'll save a good bit of 162 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: money on that purchase, you know, along the way, and 163 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: then hopefully too, you might even consider spending less on 164 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: your house to begin with. So let's go ahead and 165 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: get into some of the most important considerations that we're 166 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk about today. Yeah, part of this really involves 167 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: asking yourself a few incredibly important questions, right, And the 168 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: first one that you should be asking is should I 169 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: even be buying a home? Or does renting serve me better. 170 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: It's so important to note that buying isn't necessarily the 171 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: best option for everyone, and in fact, it's not the 172 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: best option for a decent swath of the population. Renting 173 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: can be a better move for people of all stages, 174 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: depending on how long you plan to live in that 175 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: location and your overall money goals. So part of your 176 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: strategy should involve a little thinking about why you're wanting 177 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: to buy a home. Is it because your friends have 178 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: started buying homes? That can be a factor for a 179 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, but it's important not to base your 180 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: decision on your peers. It's a personal decision that is 181 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: going to affect you for years to come. Right at 182 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: the same time, a home can be an incredible place 183 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: to feel settled in a community or to raise a family, 184 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: But if you can't get rid of that home because 185 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: you were maybe a little shortsighted on the front end, 186 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: it can feel like a burden that you can't get 187 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: rid of. And that's why it's important to know that 188 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: you're ready to be planted in a place for a 189 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: while before you're making that purchase. Otherwise, buying that home 190 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: the day of closing it can be a joyous occasion. 191 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: The day that you list it, and the months that 192 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: it might be on the market while you're trying to 193 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: sell it and not lose money can be incredibly frustrating. Yeah, man, 194 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: And so you mentioned some of those personal lifestyle considerations, right, 195 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: But then of course there's also the financial considerations as well. 196 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned it being a burden. It's a 197 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: burden because financially speaking, you're either going to take a loss, 198 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: like you said, when when it when it comes time 199 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: to sell it, or if you can't afford it um 200 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: if you have a boatload of other debts. Maybe if 201 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: you have poor credit, and if you live in an 202 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: expense of market, then buying a house might be a 203 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: bad decision for you. The same goes to if your 204 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: employment is a bit tenuous. You know, we've seen this 205 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: past year. Sometimes it's not even about how great of 206 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: an employee you are, but there are larger issues at play, 207 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: which then in turn impacts your industry and then your company. 208 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Where you feel the effects of something like a pandemic, 209 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: it can be tough, you know, especially for a single 210 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: individual with just one source of income, to have solid 211 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: financial footing. And so if that's you, if you're not 212 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: in a solid position, you might be better off running 213 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: matt And sometimes that doesn't necessarily mean you'll never own 214 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: a home. That's just right for the time being, right, 215 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: And I know there are a lot of people who 216 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: that's a goal, that's a dream, that's an aspiration, and 217 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: that's great. But if your financial circumstances currently dictate that 218 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: it's not the smartest move for you, you don't want 219 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: to buy a home at the wrong time, then it 220 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: becomes again, like we were saying, like this this plague 221 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: on your personal finances and a source of frustration instead 222 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: of that source of joy. So again, it doesn't mean 223 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: that it's not a possibility at some point. It just 224 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: means that it's not a great idea right now. Yeah, 225 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: that's right, man. And so we wanted to mention that 226 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: that renting might be a good option before we dive 227 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: into you know, all this home purchasing talk. But that's 228 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: what we're gonna get into next. Specifically, we're gonna talk about, 229 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, sort of an overarching strategy for for buying 230 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: a home that will have a dramatic impact on your 231 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: ability to grow your wealth. And so we're gonna get 232 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: to that right after the break. All right, we're back 233 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: from the break. Let's keep talking about developing that home 234 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: buying strategy, Matt. And and again there's a few important 235 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: questions we talked about. One isn't even the right time 236 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: to buy home. But the next most important question for 237 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: anybody to ask themselves when they're thinking about buying home 238 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: is what's the purpose of this home? Right? What's the 239 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: core to how you're approaching purchasing a home, Like if 240 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: you're going to be house hacking or if you're buying 241 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: a multifamily property, there's a different a set of circumstances 242 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: that you need to consider versus buying a single family residence. 243 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: And so yeah, that that overarching question of what's the 244 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: purpose of this house is an important one. It can 245 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: significantly change how you approach purchasing that home, Right, Matt. 246 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about house hacking on the show a good 247 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: bit and you know what, maybe we'll do it more 248 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: in the future. I'm sure that's because the ability that 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: we have to significantly reduce the cost of our housing, 250 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: which is of course the largest expense many of us 251 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: face across the board, it's unmatched. Right. If we can 252 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: find a way to use our home and profit from it, 253 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: or at least drastically lower the costs of our own 254 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: housing by renting out a room or having a multifamily 255 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: home where other tenants essentially pay the mortgage for us, 256 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna change the equation on our buying strategy, right. 257 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: And most folks out there, they just don't really consider 258 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: house hacking or moving out and renting out their old place. 259 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: But that's something that that we think is important to 260 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: challenge people to at least consider because it has a 261 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: mans have impact on the strategy, but also a massive 262 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: impact on your ability to grow your net worth over time. 263 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: If you can choose house hacking as opposed to the 264 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: traditional way of buying a home, you're gonna completely alter 265 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: your financial future. Yeah, and just to clarify, I mean, 266 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: like you said, you like, house hacking can be as 267 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: simple literally as just having roommates, right. It doesn't have 268 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: to be this overly complicated thing, but it can be. Right, 269 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: if you want to buy a quadplex where you are 270 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: only living in a single unit, maybe the smallest unit 271 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: there is in that quadplex, and then you're running out 272 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: the other three units and then you're cash fling every 273 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: single month. Or maybe even more complicated is say adding 274 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: onto your house like we did and finishing out a 275 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: basement that you plan to list on Airbnb. There's a 276 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: wide spectrum of what house hacking could look like. In 277 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: our book, every single one of those is a type 278 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: of house hacking, and so that's what we are referring 279 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: to when we are talking about house hacking. Yeah, Matt. 280 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: And another example, like when I bought my first and 281 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: second house, each one of those purchases was done with 282 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: the intention of becoming a rental property in the future, 283 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: and that changed the parameters of what I was looking for. 284 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: I was looking more at multifamily properties and I had 285 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: like a hard cap on the price I was willing 286 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: to pay for a single family home. Both homes that 287 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: we ended up purchasing a couple of years apart from 288 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: each other ended up being single family homes and they've 289 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: been great. But knowing the purpose behind the home I 290 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: was looking for before we began our search and even 291 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: started making offers was crucial to the path that we 292 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: ended up taking, because if I wasn't ultimately thinking with 293 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: a future investment in mind, the homes I'm actually pursuing 294 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: probably would have cost more and wouldn't have been nearly 295 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: as good of a fit for an investment or rental property. 296 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's definitely an important thing to keep in mind. 297 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: What's going to be the current and what's going to 298 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: be the potential future use of this home in your life. 299 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: It also takes the pressure off of that first house 300 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: perhaps being like the perfect house, you know, like it 301 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a perfect fit. It doesn't have 302 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: to be your dream house. Basically, if you can look 303 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: at it and say, hey, this is a house I 304 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: can see myself in for the next couple of years, 305 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: and the numbers make sense, it kind of comes down 306 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: to the numbers at that point. It's more of a 307 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: math equation versus could I see myself here for the 308 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: next ten twenty years. Can I seem myself raising a 309 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: family in this house? Probably not, you know, like, if 310 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: you can happen to find a house that can evolve 311 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: with you, uh, I think that's amazing, Like that's great. 312 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think there can be 313 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: so much pressure on individuals finding the perfect house for 314 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: their very first house purchase, and like you mentioned, I 315 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: think that can cause a lot of folks to to 316 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: overpay maybe and and even over extend themselves to choose 317 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: something that's a little bit maybe beyond their reach. And 318 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: so you know, another question too for folks to consider 319 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: is what's your timeline? Second to what's your purpose behind 320 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: this house? This is probably the most important question you 321 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: can ask, uh, And it's also a consideration that is 322 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: impacted by whether or not you're planning on house hacking 323 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: or not. So for example, if you're buying a to 324 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: one and then you're planning maybe on having four kids 325 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: in the next few years or in our case ten years, uh, 326 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: you might not be there for very long and it 327 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: may be an unwise purchase, unless again, you are planning 328 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: to convert that house to a rental, which is actually 329 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: what we did. So when it comes to houses, kay, 330 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: now we've only moved once. We moved from you know, 331 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: one house to the house that we're in. Now you've 332 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: moved twice. So you've got to convert two houses in Tormentos, 333 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: we've only converted one. And so again that's something that's 334 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: going to be significantly impacted depending on what it is 335 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: that you're planning to do with that house when you're 336 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: ready to move on. Yeah, the timeline, Matt, is crucial, crucial, 337 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: crucial for how to think about the home that you're buying. 338 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people haven't thought through 339 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: maybe how long they plan on living in that city, 340 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: or whether that home is going to meet their needs 341 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: for a number of years to come. They buy something 342 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: because it fits their lifestyle right now, and when it 343 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: comes to something like buying a home, because of the 344 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: massive amount of transaction costs involved in that move, you 345 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: can't think like that. You can't afford to be shortsighted. 346 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: So you have to ask yourself this question of what's 347 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: your timeline. And let's say, Matt, somebody's in the army 348 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: in their station somewhere for the next three years, but 349 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: they have no idea where they're going to be after that, Like, 350 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: buying a home doesn't make a whole lot of sense, uh, 351 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: in particular financial sense for that person either. Right, it's 352 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: important to think about some of the likely scenarios of 353 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: how long you're gonna own the home. But again, if 354 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: you serve in the military and you're like, you know what, 355 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm totally cool being a long distance landlord, then maybe 356 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: buying a home with that in mind makes a whole 357 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Right, If you're cool with that property 358 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: becoming an investment property in the future, your personal timeline 359 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: of how long you're going to live in the property 360 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: matters less. But at the same time, there are a 361 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: whole lot of people that aren't interested in becoming landlords, 362 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: and so your timeline and how long you're planning on 363 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: living in the property is just of massive importance. Yeah, 364 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I've heard that the most unhappy landlords are the landlords 365 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: by default. Yeah, it's a whether you're planning on your 366 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: house being a personal residence only versus a house hack. 367 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: That also has an impact on how much you need 368 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: to have saved up for a down payment. We're all 369 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: about pushing people to have a down payment if it's 370 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: for a personal residence, but you know what, we're okay 371 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: with a smaller down payment. If you're buying the home 372 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: partially as an investment property. You know, if your home 373 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: will provide cash flow as a house hack, or you're 374 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: looking to buy some multi family housing that will provide income, well, 375 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: that threshold is less important. This is another instance where 376 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: you're basically looking at the numbs. If you can crunch 377 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the numbers and it makes sense if you're getting a 378 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: good return on your investment versus what you'd be able 379 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: to get in the market, then this becomes less of 380 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: a personal kind of qualitative decision and it becomes more 381 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: of a numbers decision. Yeah, accelerating your savings for a 382 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: down payment is huge when it comes to your strategy 383 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: for buying a home, and Matt, for people out there 384 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: listening who have been running for a number of years 385 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: with the goal of owning a home, maybe in the 386 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: back of their mind, maybe in the front of their mind, 387 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: it's really really important to start saving up for that 388 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: now and making it a major goal in your monthly budget. 389 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: But if that's kind of been on your radar but 390 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: you haven't been able to save maybe even a dime 391 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: towards that goal yet, then you know, we would say 392 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: buying a home needs to be put off until you've 393 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: been able to accrue at least a meaningful amount of 394 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: savings towards the down payment. Right and in particular, Matt, 395 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned pushing people towards the number, that's not necessarily 396 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: a hard and fast thing. We think it works better 397 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: for people for so many reasons, right, uh, to get 398 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: to that market, it allows people to avoid p M. 399 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: I can add quite a bit to your monthly payments, 400 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: roughly one percent of the overall cost of the mortgage annually, 401 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: and that's just a tough pill to swallow. And at 402 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the same time, you've got more more skin in the game. 403 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: So we love the idea of pushing people to to 404 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: have that much to put down because it's the smartest, 405 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: least risky way to go about it. And another thought 406 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: as well is that you know, you might be able 407 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: to afford the home today, right, but can you afford 408 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: it over the long haul? Like that's the question you 409 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: want to ask yourself, Like, are you buying too much 410 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: house right now? If you'll be stretched every month to 411 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: make the mortgage payment, it's not going to be worth it. 412 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: And then additionally to you need a factor in the 413 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: price of maintenance and upkeep into your life as well. 414 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: You know, a good rule of thumb for budgeting purposes 415 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: is one percent of the purchase price of the home. 416 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: So twollar home will likely need two thousand dollars annually 417 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: on average, right some years is going to be even 418 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: more than that, but some years it might be less. 419 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: So after factoring all those costs in as well, you 420 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: might be seeing yourself like renting for a couple more years. 421 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Like that sounds like the way to go, and so 422 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: start there. We want you to consider house hacking. We 423 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: want that to be a challenge to you, and we 424 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: hope you consider that. But regardless of if you're going 425 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: to consider house hacking or not, if you're listening to 426 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: this episode, you might be looking to purchase a home 427 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: just for yourself as a primary residence. Either way, there 428 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: are some important guidelines to follow and we'll get to 429 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: those right after the break. All right, we're back from 430 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: the break and Matt hopefully we helped people refine their 431 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: home buying strategy just a little bit, making sure they're 432 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: not buying more house than they can afford, being sure 433 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: they know their timeline. Things like that are so important 434 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: before you pull the trigger on a home purchase. But 435 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: now let's talk about a few of the really important 436 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: things that people need to have in place as before 437 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: they begin home shopping. And one of the most important 438 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: things is to have a really good credit score. And 439 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: if you don't have one, you've got to work on 440 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: improving it. Part of the home buying strategy involves making 441 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: sure that that credit score is in great shape. But 442 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: first you you kind of need to know what your 443 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: credit score is, right, A lot of people out there 444 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: listening might not know what their score is. And so, yeah, 445 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: look at the section in your credit card bill where 446 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: they give you that info every month. And if you 447 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: don't have access to your credit score there, check out 448 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: a site like credit Scorecard or credit Karma. Both are awesome, 449 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: and Credit Karma does this great job. Also, they've got 450 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: a scorecard tool that gives you insight on how to 451 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: improve that credit score. They'll say, you know what, in 452 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: this area, you're getting an A over here you're getting 453 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: a C minus. And so that's the part of your 454 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: credit score that you can attack the hardest in order 455 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: to to boost that score, because your score is going 456 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: to have such an impact on the loan terms you're 457 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: gonna be able to get, and those loan terms are 458 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna have a direct reflection on your monthly payment, which 459 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: influences your budget and and so yeah, it just goes 460 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: on and on. You've gotta have a great credit score. 461 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: You gotta be working on your credit score before you 462 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: start shopping for that house. Yeah, that's right, and and 463 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: so if your your credit score is awful, we would 464 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: recommend for folks to go back and check out episode 465 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: one thirteen. That's where we talk about how to rebuild 466 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: a rough credit score. Uh, it's not always easy, you know, 467 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: and it can take quite a bit of time, but 468 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: that that hard work will pay off big time in 469 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: the future as you will be able to qualify for 470 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: the best mortgage terms and interest rates as well, and 471 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: that can save you tens of thousands of dollars over 472 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: the life of the loan. But like you know, like 473 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: we're saying, it's gonna take a while. You can't instantly 474 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: flip the switch on your credit score. And so if 475 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: a home purchases in your future, that's something that you're 476 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna want to start now, all right, Matt, you just 477 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: mentioned getting the best mortgage terms and interest rates, and yeah, 478 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: one of the next important things and having a solid 479 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: homebuying strategy is is shopping around for the best financing. 480 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: Most people look at a ton of homes but really 481 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: actually only apply for financing with one lender, like one 482 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: bank or credit union, and then they stop there because 483 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: they're like Okay, this person got back to me. Yeah, 484 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: and yet what they don't realize is that there could 485 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: be uh thousands of dollars in difference in closing costs, 486 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: or you know, a half a percentage of difference in 487 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: the interest rate you're being offered by different lenders. So 488 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: it's really crucial to get that apples to apples comparison 489 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: from a a mom of three. Different lenders look to 490 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: local credit unions and local banks in particular. Right, credit 491 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: unions often offer the lowest rates and they can charge 492 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: fewer fees for the loans that they're offering. Mortgage brokers 493 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: are also a great place to turn because they can 494 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: essentially shop with a bunch of different lenders for you 495 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: all at one time with your information. So, yeah, reach 496 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: out to a mortgage broker as well. But yeah, shopping 497 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: for financing is it just an incredibly crucial step in 498 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: the home buying process. Yeah, mortgage brokers are great, and 499 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: so are insurance brokers when it comes to ensuring that house. 500 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: But we're not going to get into that this episode. 501 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: Let's keep talking about financing. You know, it's also important 502 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: to think about, you know, what type of loan that 503 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna be taking out. I'm sure a lot of 504 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: folks have heard of fifteen year thirty year mortgages. Maybe 505 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: they've heard of f h A or arms as well. 506 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: There are all sorts of options that you can choose from, 507 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: but we are not fans of f h A loans, 508 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: and almost never is an ARM ideal, especially in the 509 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: current age of insanely low rates that we have right now, 510 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: and so that's why we recommend for folks to consider 511 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: either a conventional fifteen or thirty year fixed rate mortgage. Yeah, 512 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: there are all sorts of interesting mortgage products out there, 513 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: but the two most basic are are the ones that 514 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: are ultimately the best for most people, the fifteen and 515 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: the thirty. Right, and Matt, let's talk about to the 516 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: pre approval letter. As you're starting to shop for homes 517 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: before you make your first offer, it's important to get 518 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: pre approved from a lender before you start submitting those offers. 519 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: But here's the problem with the pre approval typically is 520 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: that the bank or credit union sometimes might overestimate how 521 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: much home you can afford. They're not necessarily thinking about 522 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: what fits into your monthly budget and how much breathing 523 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: room you're gonna need. Yeah, they're not looking out for 524 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: your best interests necessarily, right, Yeah, they're just saying, oh, 525 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what, on paper, it looks like you could 526 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: afford this much house. So let's say you're like pre 527 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: approved for a dollar mortgage from a lender. That doesn't 528 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: mean that you should be buying a home that cost 529 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: that much. I think that's like one common misstep map 530 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: that people make when it comes to their home by 531 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: strategy is they take that fixed number that a lender 532 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: gave them as gold as their upper limit or the 533 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, the price of a home that they should 534 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: be looking at. It's not terribly different from spending on 535 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: your credit card up to the limit just because you can. 536 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Right Instead, it's important to figure out what works in 537 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: your monthly budget and don't be afraid to be conservative. 538 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: Right Like, for me, Matt, I'm nervous about being house poor, 539 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: and so I've always tried to buy cars or homes 540 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: or anything like that just that's far under what I 541 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: actually could afford because I want to prioritize saving and 542 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: investing and also using extra money to do other other 543 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: fun things as opposed to to socking it into a 544 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: home that's like a little on the expensive side. Yeah, 545 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: I sort of see a pre approval letter almost as 546 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: like the speedometer on your car, Like, just because it 547 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: says it can do one forty like doesn't mean you 548 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: should be doing them. You know, Like there's a limit 549 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: that you should probably stay within. There's a legal limit, 550 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and there's not necessarily a financial limit that tells you 551 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: what you should or shouldn't do, per se when it 552 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: comes to the amount that you you know that you 553 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: can take out. But but yeah, just because you're pre 554 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: approved a certain amount doesn't mean you should take it there. 555 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: And so another question that's gonna come up to when 556 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: you're talking with a lender, uh, that they're gonna start 557 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: talking about your debt to income ratio. This also has 558 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: a major impact on the strategy that you'll need to take. 559 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: If you haven't saved enough money, you know, like that 560 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: could derail your ability to buy a home, But your 561 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: outstanding debt could also do the same. So it's important 562 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: to get focused on paying down your most egregious debts, 563 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: in particular your credit card debt before you buy a home. Yeah, 564 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: you might get some lender pushback as you're applying, and 565 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: they might say your d t I is too high, well, 566 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: that means that you have too many monthly debt obligations 567 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: and so yeah, relative to your income exactly. So you've 568 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: got to start paying some of those things off in 569 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: order to be able to then buy a home. And 570 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: specifically when we talk about d t I, the goal 571 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: should be to have one under thirty percent. They're helpful 572 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: dt I calculators out there on the internet. Will will 573 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: post a link to one in the show notes. But 574 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: that's something that you can kind of know ahead of 575 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: time before the lender gets back to you and says, actually, sorry, 576 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: you have too much debt. You qualified for this alone. 577 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we have an internal gauge to a 578 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: certain extent of how bad our debt actually is. But 579 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: actually seeing the number and a d t I calculator 580 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: what your d t I percentage is, can really help 581 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I got some work to do before 582 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: before I keep going down this path. Or you know, actually, 583 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a pretty good spot and I have 584 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a d t I that's that's healthy. So I can't 585 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: afford to buy a home right now. So every time 586 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: you say d t I, I just keep thinking d 587 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: t R do you remember having the d t R. 588 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: And we've been married so long now, I almost forgot 589 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: about the d t R. Yeah. Well, so when I 590 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: was back in college I actually appreciated having the d 591 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: t R because I just like clarity. I like to 592 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm working towards. If this isn't gonna work out, 593 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: like I'm ready to move on to people know what 594 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: the means that DTR is defind the relations. Everybody knows 595 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: what d just in case. I. I specifically remember having 596 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: the d t R with Kate and it's just such 597 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: a good moment of clarity. But yeah, sorry, a little 598 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: tangent there. Every time you were saying d t I 599 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: I was like, he's just saying d t R. But 600 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: we're talking about money. We're talking about, you know, getting 601 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: qualified for a mortgage. Something else that can say. Or 602 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: if you're like me, if you're self employed and you 603 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: have been for the past twelve years of your life, 604 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: be prepared to go through a more rigorous underwritting process, 605 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: especially if you've been, you know, more recently self employed. 606 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: And so Kate and I we've been kind of transitioning 607 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: away from photography lately, and because of that, our income 608 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: has gone down a whole lot, and I very acutely 609 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: felt the effects of that, not just in our decreased 610 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: income a little bit, but in the ability to get 611 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: some mortgages refined. You know, you and I we both 612 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: have investment properties and with rates at all time loans, 613 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: of course we're pouncing on those opportunities to get a 614 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: lower rate. Well, dude, when you know it, because our 615 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: income has dropped, it dashed our hopes a little bit. 616 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: It ruined the opportunity to take advantage of the deals 617 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: right now, and so in our case, we weren't able 618 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: to refy. And so that's definitely something to consider. You know, 619 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: if you've had a corporate gig for you know, the 620 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: past five years, and you're moving more towards independent work, 621 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: where they're gonna want to see a couple of years 622 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: worth of corporate taxes in order to consider the income 623 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: that you received from those side businesses as qualified income. Yeah, 624 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: lenders love nine high people who collect a bi weekly paycheck. 625 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: That's for sure, totally predictable, exactly, It's never been my life. 626 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. Another really really important thing, Matt, as we're 627 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: getting close to the end of this one, is is 628 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: finding a great real estate agent. That is such an 629 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: important part of this entire process. Right, finding a seasoned 630 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: agent can make all the difference when you're buying a home, 631 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: especially if you're a first time HomeBuyer. Matt, I remember 632 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: being so green when I was shopping from my first home. 633 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to look for, and I 634 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: felt like my agent was a godsend like guiding me 635 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: through the process. She had a couple of decades of 636 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: experience and she was incredible. I feel like she really 637 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: held my hand in the process. And there are probably 638 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: a lot of other agents I could have gone with 639 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: who wouldn't have provided nearly that value. And now that 640 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I've been investing in real estate for a number of 641 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: years going on a decade, my agent provides help in 642 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: other ways, like being an expert negotiator. Now I don't 643 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: need nearly the amount of hand holding that I used 644 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: to need right when I was buying my first one. 645 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: But it's important to make sure you do your due 646 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: diligence on the real estate agent front as well. Right, 647 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: that solid agent makes a major difference not only in 648 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: the price you pay, but whether or not you're even 649 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: going to get the home that that you really want 650 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, that's right, man. And so speaking of 651 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: real estate agents, I know who your first realtor was 652 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: because I we used her one time. And my favorite 653 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: story about you in that realtor is that, well, that 654 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: was back in the day when you would ride around 655 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: in the car with them and you know, you'd go 656 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: to and see houses. I remember talking about one time 657 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: how she dropped you off back at your apartment, I guess, 658 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: and I think you responded with see you later, I 659 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: love you. It sounds like something I would say, Do 660 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: you remember that. I mean you're like, well, I mean, yeah, 661 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: you're great. But I think in your mind you had 662 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: that like, oh, this is mom dropping me off. She 663 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: was kind of like a second mom. Man. She's such 664 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: a great agent. I stay in touch with her still 665 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's great. Yeah. I love her, 666 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: I got I'll be honest. I love her. She's great. 667 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: She's the best. Yeah. Speaking of dtr Um and so, 668 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, there are lots of other things to consider 669 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to buying a home, like inspections, negotiating. 670 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: We just kind of mentioned that, but like, this isn't 671 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: a comprehensive list per se, but you know, The biggest 672 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: factor though that determines your home buying strategy is whether 673 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: or not you're planning in the house ack or if 674 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: you're going to convert that personal residence to our rental. 675 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: We feel that that can just have such an outsized 676 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: impact on your ability to put yourself in a home 677 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: that's going to treat you well down the road, because 678 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: you know what, like it has converted from what a 679 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: place that used to call home to something that is 680 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: now generating income. It's now an investment, and so we 681 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: want to make sure that folks are are going to 682 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: just challenge that notion of of just purchasing a home 683 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: for themselves and instead to consider some of those long 684 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: lasting implications as well. Yeah, and just the notion that 685 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: putting as little down as you can put down and 686 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: buying as much home as you can write like that, 687 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: those are two of the biggest mistakes you can make, 688 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, in this home buying process. And so that's 689 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: an important thing to realize as well, is it's important 690 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: to be in a solid financial position before you even 691 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: go down this road. So to any of our listeners 692 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: out there, who are you know, in the process of 693 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: of getting ready to start shopping for home, or maybe 694 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: you're in the middle of it right now and you're 695 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: about to make an offer. Best of luck to you. 696 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: I hope that this episode has been helpful so that 697 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: you can navigate these waters well and by something that's 698 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: going to be good for you and your family for 699 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: for years to come. All right, Matt, you want to 700 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: get back to the beer real quick. Today on the show, 701 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: we had a wicked weed Labonte And it's not just 702 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: Labonte's Labonte with figs. So this is a type of 703 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: sour that they make with like pear, with like some 704 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: other fruit as well. But yeah, this is the fig variation. 705 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Reminds me of our fig tree that was in full 706 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: bloom the summer. Dude, we got so many figs off 707 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: that thing this year. But but what do you think 708 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: about this beer man? You have so many figs, But 709 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: did you make any beer with it? No, I'm a loser. 710 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: You're not a loser. You just you just don't make beer. Okay, 711 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: So this beer man, in my opinion, it was aggressively tart. 712 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: It was very acidic. But you know how I roll, 713 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: I really enjoy that in a sour beer, and so 714 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: this one didn't disappoint at all. I felt it did 715 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: have a little bit of that fig flavor going on, 716 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of it, but something else I 717 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: feel like I picked up on. I don't know if 718 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm just imagining this, but as I finished it out, 719 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I feel like it would get sweeter, Like you drink 720 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: it immediately and it feels really tart, really mouth puckering, 721 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: but then the sweetness kind of rides out on the 722 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: back end. It kind of lingers, And specifically it kind 723 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: of made me think of like any sweetness, And I 724 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: wonder if that's because I'm just thinking in my head 725 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: of like a struck qu to replate where there's like 726 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: figs and honey with some meats, some cheeses. But yeah, 727 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: to me, it felt like it almost had this honey 728 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: sweetness going on on the tail end that made me 729 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: appreciate it even more. Yeah, I totally see what you're 730 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: saying on the sweetness. It almost had like a white 731 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: wine kind of quality, like a sweet white wine kind 732 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: of sweetness going on. And I agree it was kind 733 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: of light on the fig but heavy on the tart. 734 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: But I'm cool with that. I like figs, but not 735 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: nearly as much as my seven year old who would 736 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: just like pull them off in clumps and just start 737 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: tossing them in her mouth. But I thought it was 738 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: a truly excellent golden sour. I mean, wicked Weed still 739 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: makes I think some of the best fruited sours out there. 740 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: And you know with this bottles three years old, man, 741 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: it's held up nicely. This one's just been hanging out 742 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: in my beer cellar, which is actually our pantry, and 743 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. Manethelois was a delicious sour beer. 744 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Nice man, Well, that is going to be it for 745 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 1: this episode. Listeners can find our show notes up at 746 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: our website at how to money dot com and there 747 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: will be sure to link to that deaths income ratio calculator, 748 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: as well as some other resource is that you might 749 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: find helpful. Again, if you have enjoyed this episode, if 750 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: you're enjoying the show in general, well, we would encourage 751 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: you to hit the subscribe button so that you get 752 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: every single episode delivered to your podcatcher. And also if 753 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: you haven't left a review yet, man, we'd really appreciate 754 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: you letting people know what you think of the show 755 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: over on Apple Podcasts. And thanks in advance. All right, Matt, 756 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this episode until next time. 757 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,