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Speaker 1: Welcome into Jags Am. We're on location today. We love

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Speaker 1: a field trip. I'm kind Nannie Stephens, Brian Sexton, John Oh's.

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Speaker 2: You're with me.

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Speaker 1: We're now in Park, Michigan for joint practice with the Lions.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Lyne's practice.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you always can get a little something

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Speaker 2: out of not going up against your own teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: And as as Brian, you know, it's nice to wake

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Speaker 4: up and not feel like you're already sweating. The sweats

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Speaker 4: starting to come in because it is getting warmer. A

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Speaker 4: lot of good matchups talk about today, and.

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Speaker 5: We had an opportunity to visit with Mark Brunell, who

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Speaker 5: everyone who's watching knows who's up here as the quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: coach and gets an insight and they're excited.

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Speaker 3: We're excited. You know, two.

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Speaker 5: Teams that led the league in terms of year over

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Speaker 5: year wins. Both the Jaguars and Lions won six more

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Speaker 5: games in twenty twenty two than they did in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one, so both teams are being looked at as

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Speaker 5: up and comers, which makes it a fun day.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get into our big things.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start off with one verse one because

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Speaker 1: the ones are going against the ones, and for ones,

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Speaker 1: it's not against their own team.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: The Lions and the.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are going to do some joint practices they just started,

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Speaker 1: so they're going to do some of these team drills

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Speaker 1: against each other, and it's nice to see exactly how

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Speaker 1: your team is going to stack up. John, can you

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Speaker 1: just kind of explain how it's a little bit different

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Speaker 1: than what we see on the day to day.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's because you're not only getting ones versus ones,

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Speaker 4: meaning they get the opportunity. There's very little work for

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Speaker 4: ones versus the ones because there's just more time to

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Speaker 4: do it. That was a very great explanation, but I

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Speaker 4: think somewhere in there as an explanation. Also, it's different

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Speaker 4: from the preseason game because the coaches can say, hey,

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Speaker 4: we want to get X number of red zone, X

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Speaker 4: number of short yardage. They can control the environment and

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Speaker 4: control what they get a chance to work on.

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Speaker 5: Doug Peterson told us in our preseason television production meeting

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Speaker 5: last Friday in Fort Worth that these reps are more

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Speaker 5: valuable than the reps that he could get them in

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Speaker 5: a preseason game because they stacked them. Let me give

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Speaker 5: you one that I'm looking for, and it's not necessarily

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Speaker 5: a one though. I think anybody who's watched Antonio Johnson

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Speaker 5: this is a very talented young safety.

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Speaker 3: Why he was available in the fifth round from just

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Speaker 5: But look, there's two guys he's going to get a

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Speaker 5: match up against, Shamir Gibbs, who Mark Burnell was telling

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Speaker 5: us is amazing in space, right, and the tight end

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Speaker 5: Sam Laporta, who is a shifty, very difficult to cover

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Speaker 5: tight end. Well, those are two positions that over the

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Speaker 5: course of the year he's going to have to be

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Speaker 5: able to account for great right, all three rookies, Let's

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Speaker 5: see how he handles two guys who are very highly

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Speaker 1: John any specific matchups you're looking at, are you just

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Speaker 1: excited to kind of see how the Jags matchup in general?

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Speaker 4: Well, then you have to watch Aiden Hutchinson versus anton Harrison, Walker,

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Speaker 3: He's a natural pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: like Anton Harrison, who hasn't had very many NFL live reps,

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Speaker 4: more you have seen going in a vague season, the

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Speaker 4: better for Anton Harrison.

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Speaker 2: And another high pick as well, and Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 1: As we know, and I think also we didn't mention,

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Speaker 1: imagine for Tyson Campbell that'll be a good match up.

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Speaker 5: And Jamison Williams, who again Brunelle was saying, is as

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Speaker 3: It'll be really good reps for them, and.

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Speaker 4: I guess my guess is you will see them try

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Speaker 2: Big thing number two is going to be feeling the heat.

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Speaker 1: Now, you can take that two ways, because they're not

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Speaker 1: feeling the heat because we're not in Jacksonville right now,

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Speaker 1: just kind of getting the team some chill time away

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Speaker 2: To make this team.

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Speaker 1: If you're on the edge, Brian, what do you look

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Speaker 5: Well, cut down days two weeks from today, right so

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Speaker 5: you can count the number of practices, the number of games,

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Speaker 5: these guys, No, I only have twenty seven or thirty

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Speaker 5: that every rep counts, because let's be honest, John, from

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Speaker 4: And that could become even more important Saturday, because I

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Speaker 1: All right, And our third big thing is would you

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Speaker 1: rather There's an article in the Athletic actually right now

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars we mentioned there were in similar situations right

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Speaker 1: if not favored, to win their divisions. But which would

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Speaker 1: I assumed to be made for the Lions as well.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Yes, that's the trump card.

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Speaker 5: They've got a talented squad, but they don't necessarily have

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Speaker 2: coming up. We're going to talk about the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: Some people we have our eyes on that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: We are on location. We're on a field trip, whatever

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Speaker 1: This is the segment we do where we talk about

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Speaker 1: either people on the bubble of the roster, people that

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Speaker 3: Seth Williams.

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Speaker 5: I'm going with Seth uh six ' two, two hundred

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Speaker 4: While I went with Jacob Harris for much the same reason.

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Speaker 5: And both of these guys that we've talked about and

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Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, special team is gonna be huge.

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Speaker 1: That's why I picked Tim Jones for mine, just because

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's been here, he's contributed on special

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Speaker 2: If you had an extra spot, maybe you get one.

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Speaker 1: Of the taller wide receivers and still that role that

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Speaker 5: And you know, John, it's not every year that they

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Speaker 5: keep four tight ends, but when you may that room,

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Speaker 5: they're going to keep all four of those guys. So

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Speaker 5: it's not like you could even have a seventh receiver,

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Speaker 3: The numbers just don't work for it. Based on the

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Speaker 4: Now, I think Tim Jones makes the team, and I

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Speaker 4: think he's gonna be. If he doesn't, he might be

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, stay with us, guys. We're gonna come

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Speaker 1: John Oser, and then we'll get you some more details

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Speaker 1: about joint practice.

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Speaker 2: We are live in Alan Park, Michigan for Jags am

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Speaker 2: on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Things are heating up a little, but it's still nowhere

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: I know you enjoy this environment, and of course we

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Speaker 1: want your wisdom as we've got a couple of ozone

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Speaker 2: As the viewers always have wisdom you receive.

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Speaker 3: Why are you kissing up to him?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start off with zingis from Duval Great love this.

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Speaker 1: It seems to have been a while since a Jaguars

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Speaker 1: defender outplayed his contract or draft position. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any candidates for this year to break out? I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: for Cisco.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as this reader noted, we cut the question down

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Speaker 4: for space Devon Hamilton started to do that. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: first of all, Roll Roberts and Harrison maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He got a new deal this year, yeah, and out

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Speaker 4: played the one that he originally signed. Cisco's a good

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Speaker 4: choice for this. But since the reader mentioned this, I'll

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Speaker 4: go ahead and say, maybe maybe you Seer Abdula, who

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Speaker 4: I mean kind of on this week. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he was asking about rookies per se, but you

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Speaker 4: see it seems like a guy that can get you

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Speaker 4: four or five sacks, that can get you impact. Cisco's

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Speaker 4: the best choice because as a third round pick, you

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Speaker 4: feel like he's got a chance to be a real

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Speaker 3: B Ryan, so I'd go with either of those two.

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Speaker 3: You probably somebody out, No.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think you're absolutely right on Cisco because

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Speaker 5: to know where number five was.

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Speaker 3: So I think he's the perfect choice.

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Speaker 5: And Abdula, you could say so far just Antonio Johnson, Right, sure,

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Speaker 5: two guys just like, what were they doing available so late?

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Speaker 5: Because clearly their playmaxers, Well, they're there that late? Because

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Speaker 5: Scout said Abdullah's too short. I don't know what the

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Speaker 5: story is with Johnson. He has freakish physical abilities, and

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Speaker 5: when you watch that kid, you're like, they can't They're

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Speaker 3: He's too good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder, how is the only reason I didn't

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Speaker 4: choose him? You wonder where they can find a role

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Speaker 1: Lots of young options hasn't been talking about, especially showing

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Speaker 1: out in those preseason games. And then our other final

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Speaker 1: question for you from Ozone today is from Michael from

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Speaker 1: Orange Park, Florida. He says, what makes you so sure

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Speaker 1: that the Jaguars will be good this year? Well?

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Speaker 4: I chose this question because after a preseason game, everybody,

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Speaker 4: you know kind of nitpicks and oh they didn't do this,

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Speaker 4: they didn't do this, Trevor had an interception, or I

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Speaker 3: I think it's.

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Speaker 4: Important rite out right now to remember the big picture,

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Speaker 4: and that's the you know they're gonna be better? Or

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Speaker 4: because you have any any thought that the offense isn't

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Speaker 4: gonna be good. Ryan, No, So no, the defense, I

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Speaker 4: don't think men, they're gonna be as good as last

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Speaker 3: Carl was gonna be better.

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Speaker 4: So I think rather than focus on every little thing

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Speaker 4: continue to do this. I don't know what their record

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Speaker 4: like a team it's going to be in ascension throughout

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Speaker 5: Let's use this as a reminder. Preseason games are rarely

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Speaker 5: game planned, right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a game plan for that one last week.

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Speaker 5: They're going in looking at players and situational matchups and

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Speaker 4: You can't be sure you get guys reps.

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Speaker 3: That's so right.

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Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with how they're gonna play

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Speaker 5: in the regular season. In fact, it's a far cry

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Speaker 5: from when they game plan and the way they're gonna

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Speaker 5: play because they don't want to show anybody anything. Preseason games,

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Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen, are about evaluation, not about the big picture.

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Speaker 5: So my feeling of why they're gonna be good. Number

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Speaker 5: sixteen is a really big reason why. Oh and zero

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Speaker 5: gives more room in the passing game, and this whole

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Speaker 2: They've got those guys everybody else. All right, stay with us.

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Speaker 1: We're out here at joint practice Allen Park, Michigan. Today's

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Speaker 1: probably their full pads today, so it maybe a little

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Speaker 1: more physical than what we might see tomorrow. But is

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Speaker 4: I'm mainly a Brian eleven on eleven. You just want

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Speaker 4: they're put in a position to make plays against an

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Speaker 3: But that's what it is.

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, and I'm gonna go more specific than that.

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Speaker 5: You can't get away from the Trayvon Walker Aiden Hutchinson comparison, obviously,

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Speaker 5: was one of the first questions asked to Doug in

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Speaker 5: a proven pass rusher. He had a big season last year.

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Speaker 5: We knew Traybon was gonna have to work to evolve

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Speaker 3: Let's see how he does today.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a ton to bring you tomorrow. Jag XAM

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Speaker 1: will be live out here tomorrow again at joint practice,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna head out now and get

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Speaker 2: All the details for you to share with you, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see it then