1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. This is View from the Raptors. We're going 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: on to the podcast. This is good news. I would 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: like to be a part of that. I could make 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: it up and you'd be like, oh yeah, that sounds right. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Right on, just keep going. I believe Green she probably 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: have somebody look at that. All right. We just keep 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: bringing the heat here on View from the Raptors. Last 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: week we had NBA Commissioner Adam Silver. This week we're 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: going all Celtics. Is an absolute Celtics legend. He's here 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: with and Shaan Granty and myself and he's a two 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: thousand eight champion. He's a finals m v P. His 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: number thirty four is hanging up in the raftors. He's 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: the truth. He's a captain. Paul Pierce, p walking to 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: the pot. Man Perk's ready to real you. I'm telling you, 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: how's it going without Big Perk? True? What's happening? It's 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: crazy because I'm actually coming out. I'm actually doing the 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: book right now, right yeah, and there breaking news right 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: now in the book. I'm doing a book and it's 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: to the point where we was talking about my early 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: days with the Celtics, and that was crazy Pe because 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: it brought back so many memories of Seriously, it brought 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: back so many memories of I just remember you. Like 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: I said, man, he took me under this wing as 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: a youngster. Like we had. We had three it was 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: three of us that was rookies, and for some reason 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: he adapted to me. And I was just telling them 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: my book like it was sometimes. Bro, you just would 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: invite me to your crib and men, you would literally 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: just sit up there and watch three or four games 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: and just talking about what was going around the league 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: and I had and all of it started coming back 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: as I'm telling you know the stories. I'm like, man, men, 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: and he used to play head up on bones every 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: day like it was, and I was like, I couldn't 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: wait a Mark. I used to be looking forward to 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: be hitting me on my texts and big fellow, come 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: on through because you know, I got tired of being 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: in that town house. Got there sixty men, h man, 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Look that Domino Dominos brought us together. Yeah, what made 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: you gravitate towards Perk? I mean we all know why, 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: but back in the day, what made you bring bring 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: him in? Well you know what it's like, Uh, you know, 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: you you feel out certain people when you're around them, 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's something you really can't even explain. 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: It's just you knew what type of guy, what type 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: of player, you know, what type of mentality he had, 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: and you know it was similar to mine, and so 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: you gravitate towards that, and you know that's why we 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: work so well, guys like him, Tony Allen. I mean, 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: that team was so we gravitated so well with each other, 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: just ment on a mental aspect, and that's what just 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: drew us all together to be so close. You know, 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: even though we was on some losing teams, we're a 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: close knit team more. I mean, I got three three 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: incidents that p I think that really woke Pe up 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: for use with me. Right. So we used to have 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: to report right before Labor Day and I come in 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: the gym as a rookie and I'm just throwing elbows 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: and toning but Ti and Paul like, damn, I remember that. 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, You'm felling. I'm felling in here, getting physical. 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: So then you go to my our first preseason game, 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: my first preseason game, we played the Detroit Pistons in Detroit, 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: and I get an offensive rebound and I just go 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: up and dunk you with two hands and yell. And 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: I remember coming to the bench and he was like, damn, 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: you gonna just go up over d C and Ben 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Wallace like that, And I was you remember, I remember 68 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: like it was yesterday and then and look, this was 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the last test. He always used to like with the 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: young guys, he wants to see you maybe cahoo, but 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I want to see what got hard I want to 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: see who dedicated. He used to tell us that all 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: the time. So one day I go in the locker 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: room and pee, I'm in my type. He like, who, 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: I want to see which one of y'all got harder? 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: With you? One of y'all? Humble, like, what's happening? He thought? 77 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Fifteen hundred dollars on the ground. He like, big perp, 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: what's up? It's like a little snow tooth of snow 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: right through outside. You wanna go outside and give me 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: a hundred of push ups right now in the snow 81 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: with your tights. I said, who, I said, bet that 82 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: when did it? And then he was like, I'm rocking 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: with you youngs. I didn't think he would do that real. 84 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Ya was like, that waszy it was freezing. He went 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: out there and I was like, oh, the big fell 86 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: he he that's the type of guy you want to 87 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: go to world with. You know. It's like going to 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: boot camp. You know, everything not easy. You gotta put 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: them through some stuff before you know action, you know. 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: So that was like my way and to see him, 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, let me see where these kids mentality is. 92 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, put him through a little boot camp. So 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: who put you through the boot camp? You were a rug, ye, man, 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really have no boot camp. I came in 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: kicking doors down. My team different, you understand, Like Antoine 96 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: was our vet. You had Ron Mercer who was in 97 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: the second year. But you got understand, we all the 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: same age, you know, even though they came out before me. 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: The only one that was the older, older vet was 100 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: probably Kenny Anderson. And uh you know Kenny probably you 101 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: know the most he made me do. I have to 102 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: go get the doughnuts and I had to get this 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: coffee and stuff warm up and I was easy stuff 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: for me. But you know, I think, uh, you know, 105 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: being it was such a young team that I really 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: didn't have that type of vet that that was just 107 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: like all right, young fellow. You know, I had to 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: show myself the ropes on the most part. But you 109 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: you said you kicked the doors down. And you know 110 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: that's a perfect segue into this because it's Hall of 111 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Fame week and obviously about a month ago you just 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: found out that your Hall of Fame finalists for for 113 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: the next class going in in absolutely yeah. So first 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: and foremost, congratulations, Well deserved an unbelievable career that you 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: put together here in Boston, and then even even after that, 116 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: you continue to play at a really high level. But 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, what's the anxiety level 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: of like you found out that you're a finalist, but 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: now you gotta wait that there's like that interim period 120 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: to actually get the final word of if it's happening 121 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: or not. Uh, well that's coming this this uh this weekend, 122 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: and so you know with the Hall of Fame class 123 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: of with KG and Kobe and Tim Duncan coming up. Uh, 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I got some insider information I can't really say right now, 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: but the announcement official announcement will be come this Sunday. Okay, 126 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: So before you got this inside information, what was the 127 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: anxiety like at that point when you just didn't you 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: didn't know necessarily what's gonna happen. Well, you still don't know, 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you just you just wait and see, 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: and you know, just it's just a wait and see. 131 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: You know. Hopefully you know, convinced the people who makes 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: that call enough throughout my career to where you know, 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm on there and hopefully uh inducted into the first 134 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Vallot Hall of Fame. You will be a p Look. 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: I always tell people, in my opinion, your finals, and 136 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this because you're my brother and 137 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: we rode together and we wanted together. I'm just saying 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: for what you went through with this finals MVP run 139 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: that you had, you went through a prime Joe Johnson, 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: you went through a Lebron James Man, Detroit Pistons whose son, 141 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: multiple bodies that you from, I'm a temptationationn Prince to 142 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Chauncey right going about. I mean they were they were 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: the Pistons like you talking about, right, and you went 144 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: through that, going through Kobe to win the NBA Finals. Like, 145 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I think people don't even see the value. And I 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: said this, I said it. See what y'all don't realize 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: is yes, we had defenders, but when we started the game, 148 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: he started off guard. Teach you never in one of 149 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: them and his and his his motto was, you're gonna 150 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: have to bust my head to the white meat. Right. Yeah, 151 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: they got something my phone p but he got mold. 152 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: But Pee, I want to ask you this because I never, 153 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: out of all the conversations we had, I never asked 154 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: you this. When you got to the league. What was 155 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: your moment where you was like, hey, man, I'm like that, 156 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to be one of these dudes in this 157 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: league for the for the for the rest of my career. Like, 158 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: what was that moment where now he was like, yeah, 159 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm here, man. I think I really came off running 160 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: because I remember, you know, my first game was against 161 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: Vince Carter. You know that's like we was like rookie rivals. 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: He got picked before me with the same class, We're 163 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: the same position, and you know he uh, he had 164 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: a good game out of a good game. But that 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: game where I was like, I'm gonna tell you this, 166 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: it was against Penny Hardaway and I was Garden and 167 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: this is when he was in Orlando, and I don't 168 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: know if he was hurt or not, but I know 169 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: I held him to zero points per and I was like, 170 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: because you got understand me. It's how I looked up 171 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: the penny. I wore his shoes all through college. Penny 172 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: shoes is coming like he was my guy. And I 173 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: was like, I'm guarden Penny tonight, you know. And I 174 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: know he was hurt. I don't know, but I know 175 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: I heard him to zero. I remember I ripped him 176 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm here. I am here, 177 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and I am here to stay. It was defense. It's 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: a defense. But look, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you 179 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: this though. It was it was one dude who put 180 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: me in my place that I never forget. Grant Hill, 181 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we're playing in a closed game. The 182 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: Pistons is uh, it's in the garden. I mean it's 183 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: four minutes to go. It's like three minutes ago, two 184 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: minutes ago. I'm telling you pers I sold me every 185 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: single time down the court. And you know what he 186 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: used and you know what he did. He did exactly 187 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: what I used to tell Tony ally and practice every day. 188 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: When I got the ball, I said, one of three 189 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: things is gonna happen? Tony I mean, you're gonna found 190 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: me or or uh, I'm gonna find somebody else for assist. 191 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: And he did that to me every single time that 192 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: if he didn't score me, I found him or he 193 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: got into the paint and dropped it off to somebody 194 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: and they beat us. And it was just like a 195 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: moment was like can I even play NBA defense out here? 196 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: But then you have to look, this is grand Hill though. 197 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about one of the all times. You know, 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: this is like Lebron before Lebron. But some people, like 199 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: some of the younger generation, they don't know how good 200 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: he was before he heard his ankle. In Orlando, he 201 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: was the next coming. He was on the point to 202 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: like take over as post the boy over Jordan's uh perk. 203 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: He was next. It was like Grant. It was like 204 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: Jordan's and then Grant, what's next in line? So we're 205 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: talking about Hall of Fame and you're you're gonna be 206 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: in town, uh this this coming weekend to see KG going. 207 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: I know you guys go way back, like way back 208 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: to the days in the auth circuit. What's it like 209 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: to see someone who you grew up with, who you 210 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: want to title with, who you were trying to get 211 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: to play with each other for so damn long in 212 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: the pros. Like, what's it like to see him finally 213 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: have his moment. It's gonna be exciting, man. And uh, 214 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, I can't wait to hear his speech, you know, 215 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: because you gotta understand when Kevin talks, it's just like 216 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: the room freezes. You don't understand his presence. But like 217 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: if you ever watch his interviews or or in the 218 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: room where he's like really you know, got some things 219 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: to say, it's just like the room just terms cold 220 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: and you just freeze, and you just kind of like 221 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: you make an eye contact with him and you can't. 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: You you're hingeing on every word he says, because you know, 223 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: he's goes something good and interesting and uh, you know 224 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: for me to see how he's come from a skinny 225 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: seven foot kid from South Carolina to Chicago to the 226 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,359 Speaker 1: NBA to now the Hall of Fame, which is uh 227 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: the last chapter in this book. He's might he might 228 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: have to write another book. I see that book you 229 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: got behind, Yeah, I got it. I got a couple 230 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: of them, man, I can't stop reading that. You don't 231 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: have to add another chapter to this book, man, I mean, 232 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: because this is this is the final piece of the 233 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: the pie right here, getting Duck into the Hall of Fame, 234 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: because this is is over and we can forgets because uh, 235 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe next year. I think you noticed that 236 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: his numbers going off up the garden. So man, be 237 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: this year, but supposed to be this year. Make it happen. 238 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: But I have to rewrite that book, man. Add a 239 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: couple of chapters, yeah, a couple of you know, he 240 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: got a game plan. Oh man, you already you know 241 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: he already foresee the future. Man. So yeah, definitely, I'm 242 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: actually going over at his house after this. I think 243 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm a head over there, and you gotta tell good things. 244 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: We gotta get him on here next. What's what's your 245 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: favorite story of your time with him in Boston? I 246 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: know you've told I love listening to the story of 247 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Las Vegas when you guys went there and you darted 248 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: out of the out of the cab and you didn't 249 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: pay the cavvy and he was like, what the hell, 250 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: what's going on? This is the city life. But what's 251 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: your favorite story from Boston? Oh? Man, we got so 252 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: many great stories, man, I mean, all right, how about 253 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: this one. This is what I always tell in the game. 254 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: We're playing the San Antonio Spurs, right, and the whole 255 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: scout report was like, all right, we need to snow. 256 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: Genobley is just on on a tear coming into our buildings. 257 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: So I got Jenoli that night, and so he's guarding 258 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: Matt Bonner. I'm not sure if Duncan was playing that night. 259 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm not was dunking. He may have. Maybe Perk was 260 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: guarding Duncan and Ticket had Matt Bonner. And so it 261 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: is point being, I'm working my butt off, I'm shutting 262 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Genoble down. Next thing you know, Matt Bonner's going off. 263 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: He got thirty points to half, right, so I hold 264 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Genobolan about like six or seven point. He's on a tear. 265 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: So now we're on the hallway, we're going into the 266 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: locker room. I think we probably down like two or three. 267 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: And we're walking down the hall about to walk in 268 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: the locker room, and I'm like, damn, who the hell 269 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: got Matt Barner? Were working my butt off, you know, 270 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: working my butt off, Guardian NOVELI, And in my mind, 271 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying this sort the whole team 272 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: can here I'm I'm calling KG out. Who the hell 273 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: got Matt Bonnor? He turned around and get my face, 274 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: he said, I got Matt Barner. The reason he got 275 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty got there points because I was helping your so 276 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: slow the novel. I love that it sounds like KG, 277 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: no doubt New England native Matt Bonner, by the way, 278 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: he's he's a native. Let me jump into the conversation 279 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: here with something I've thought about for many, many years, 280 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and I think it takes a lot of years to 281 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: look back and have a different perspective on it. Danny's 282 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: only regret of what I called the New Big Three 283 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: era right those six years or how old you were, 284 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: how old KG was and how old Ray was when 285 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: it started, and we all in our mentality, our sports mentality, say, man, 286 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: imagine if four or five years earlier, those guys have 287 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: gotten together, KG was m v P. You guys were 288 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: all the top of your game, and then that basketball 289 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: logic says, you know what, they would have won multiple championships. 290 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: But younger players, it's not always that simple. What what 291 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: in your mind now, with your your brain where you 292 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: are now looking back, what would have happened if that 293 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: group had been if you guys have been together four 294 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: or five years earlier, I really believe we would have won, 295 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: uh multiple titles. Because this is why I tell you, Sean, 296 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: don't understand, Like, Okay, you know, when you first come 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: in the league, you want to establish a name for yourself, 298 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: you want to establish a presence. I think at that 299 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: if you look back for four or five years from there, 300 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I was in my fifth year, I think I was 301 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: at that point where I established who I was in 302 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: the league. You know, at that point, KG was in 303 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the m v P. At that point, you know, Ray 304 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: may multiple All Stars like myself, we already signed big contracts, 305 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, so it was just like, you know, what, 306 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: what do you want? After you established that part of 307 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: your career, You're like, okay, what's next? You know, I 308 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: made a lot of money. Now I've made an All 309 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Star team. Now now I want to win. What else 310 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: is there? I want to win now? And I truly believe, 311 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: especially how selfless of a superstar KG is, there's no 312 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind, we would have want multiple titles. 313 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be one of the most 314 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: selfless superstars, you know, a guy who could have demanded 315 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: the ball every time down we would have gave it 316 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: to all and he pretty much would have just been 317 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: the offense. But you know, he was so unselfish the 318 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: way he passed the ball and brought guys together on 319 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: the defensive end. I truly believe we would have won. 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: You remember Doc used to have to stop practice when 321 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: he wouldn't shoot. Yeah, I'm moving the ball, I'm moving 322 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: to Yeah, we're moving it. We're moving it to you. 323 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: Doc Beckham the twenty shots tonight and I was like, no, 324 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: hear that from a coach telling you're superstar? Like that 325 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: shows you how unselfish KG was. I don't know if 326 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: you remember this. Very early in that season, we were 327 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: going to Orlando. We went to docks House in the 328 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: afternoon and afterwards we're going back to the hotel and 329 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: they had different vans. You and I were in the 330 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: same van, and it was almost like you could barely 331 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: contain your joy at the way the early season had gone, 332 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: and you were just talking about the I would have 333 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: traded I'll trade the locker room. I was telling everybody, 334 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: I'll trade this locker room to get KG here, And 335 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: it was just that, it was so it was so 336 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: joyful to be around you and to be around that group, 337 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: because it was almost like I always I always say 338 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: he plugged something in absolutely man. The crazy thing about it, Man, 339 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: I was like, man, Wick, this is the piece right here. 340 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: In two thousand six, I said, during a game, right 341 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell him that. I mean, we tell this story. 342 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: I looked right at with like we need to give 343 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: him right here. I mean, I think everybody the whole 344 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: front row heard me. KG said he didn't know what 345 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: was going on, and he was like, is he talking 346 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: to his owner and telling him to trade from it 347 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: is in the middle of the They're all at the 348 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: free throw line at this crazy story. Crazy story. I 349 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: don't think, Paul, I don't think people realize that your 350 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: relationship with KG didn't begin in two thousand seven. It 351 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: didn't begin when you were in the NBA at All 352 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: Star weekends. That it literally goes back more than years. 353 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: He stayed at my house in Inglewood, California. He had 354 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: the duck in the in the doorways in my little 355 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: house in the wood. He had to duck and uh yeah, 356 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, man, I'm telling you we played that week 357 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: a U ball, you know, and you go understand there 358 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: was no Instagram, you know, no social media, weren't. We're 359 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: in high school. So I heard of Kevin Garden. I 360 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: was like, because you know, as a kid, you want 361 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: to move up in the ranking, so you're beating about players. 362 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, man, who is this guy at the tip 363 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett? He simp fee with you know who is 364 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Stepfan mar Very and then to get a chance to 365 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: like read about him and then actually see him. So 366 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: just like when he walks into the gym, my first 367 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: sight album was like, whoa, this is Kevin Garnett. I 368 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: mean he was taller than life. I mean faster, faster 369 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: at a gazelle is intensity was through the roof. I 370 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: just remember the first practice as kids, he was yelling 371 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: out the gym and after that that's where we established 372 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: our relationship. We played on the same AU team just 373 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: for one week in a tournament to where my first 374 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: This was my last tournament as an AU player for 375 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: high school and I was going to be a senior. 376 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: This is the summer going to the senior This is 377 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: my last year, the very last tournament of the biggest 378 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: tournament of the summer, a tournament in which I took 379 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: second place every year, every year we lost in the championship. 380 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: We bring on KG. Were in the summer off on 381 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: the championship, No Biggest them another summer and we just 382 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: was in contact ever since then. That's where our bond 383 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: for him. Tell me if you're with me on this. 384 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: They just finished the Showtime putting together that Showtime documentary 385 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: right on KG. They've interviewed a lot of us over 386 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the last few months to get it ready. And we 387 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: were both in Boston before you knew what Celtics fans 388 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: were like, what Boston was like. And this is the 389 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: analogy I came up with. I want to see if 390 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: it passes your test. About fifteen years ago, about that time, 391 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: the first viral video on YouTube, one of the first 392 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: ones ever when we when it was in its infinite 393 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: is when they tell I wish I could mark, I 394 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: wish I could date myself. That's how much I'm a 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: fan of myself. If is when they took the candy, 396 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: the Mentos candy right and they put it in the 397 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: soda bottle, and I think we just explained that I 398 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: I described as KG was the Mentos and Boston and 399 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: the garden was the So this us like the second 400 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: he got there this the buzz around him, man, I 401 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: don't even know. I remember I was in May, you know, 402 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I found out that we were possibly getting a G 403 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: I found out through Antoine Walker. I was in Los 404 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: Angeles and Antoine was at something. I think, I don't 405 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: know if it was a ceremony for Gary Payton that 406 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: KG was that they were at something Newport, and I 407 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: was upset that I didn't even get the invite. I 408 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: was like to sale, was there g p KG out 409 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: in Newport? And I was in in Los Angeles and 410 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: and Twine calls me said, Yo, I think y'all getting KG. 411 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: I was like what? I was like really? And so 412 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm on the phone with Danny every day, like, Hey, 413 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Is it is? This? Is this 414 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: for real? And any made it happened? Man, because that's 415 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: the summer. It could have went so many directions, you know, 416 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: that shot it could have it could have won so 417 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: many different directions. It was either like it was either 418 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: like we're gonna build to win or I wasn't gonna 419 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: be there. You know, I thought that I would get 420 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: traded honestly that summer and for it can goo for 421 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: it to go for me possibly getting traded that summer 422 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: to add in me a kg and winning a championship. 423 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: That was that was the best summer of my whole career. 424 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: We walked in you may not remember this because the 425 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: day was a blur, but the press conference at the garden. 426 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: We happened to get there at the same time, and 427 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: we're kind of walking up the stairs. The stairs you 428 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: always told me took years off your career walking up 429 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: to part the car. You have to walk up the 430 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: stairs right, three or four fights to get to where 431 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: the floor was in the garden, And it was almost 432 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: as if we knew the world was changing, and we 433 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: sort of caught eyes with each other, and you know, 434 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: it's like that be all lean in. It was like 435 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: it was a whole new world right now, and you're like, no, 436 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: this for real. That's what it felt like, Is this 437 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: really happening. It was like, you understand, we had the 438 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: worst record in the league, and then all of a 439 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: sudden we get this type of firepower in. It was like, Wow, 440 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it was for real. I mean, you 441 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: gotta understand my workouts that summer, Like I worked hard 442 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: in the summer, but like when that trade happened. I 443 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: think I was doing three of days. I think I 444 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: was waking up at five am, going from six to 445 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: eight timber one and then like three to five, like 446 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: take an hour break, eat and go work out again. 447 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: I was, I was getting prepared. It just motivates you 448 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: that much more when you got those other guys around 449 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you coming in, right. I mean, as a competitor, that's 450 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: all you ever wanted was a chance, was a chance, 451 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: And that's all I ever say. I sit in the 452 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: back with Johnny, Joe, John and Max, you know, I 453 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: just wanted a chance, you know, and I felt like 454 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: this was it. Hey man, you got the chance, you 455 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: took it, you capitalized on and like Purchase said earlier, 456 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: you had one of the craziest finals MVP runs we've 457 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: seen in recent memory. Just with the guys you were 458 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: taking on mono. We mono every single round. It's one 459 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: of the craziest runs we've seen recently. All right, everyone, 460 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick commercial break. We'll be right 461 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: back with more with Paul Pierce. I know I've been 462 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: waiting forever to get back into TV Garden for a 463 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: live Celtics game, and I know you've been feeling the 464 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: same way, So why not make up for some lost 465 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: time get in on all of the action for next 466 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: season by signing up for the Celtics Season ticket Member 467 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Waitlist presented by American Express Listen. When you sign up, 468 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: you'll get priority access to purchase season ticket memberships for 469 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: the two season once tickets become available. So after you're 470 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: done listening here, head on over to Celtics dot com 471 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: slash waitlist to sign up today and you'll be back 472 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: inside the garden in no time, helping your boys grab 473 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: a win. I want to talk to you about where 474 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: this team is nowadays. You know, let's talk about Jayson 475 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Tatum and Jaylen Brown, and I want to make a 476 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: direct parallel with where they are right now to where 477 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: you were when you were five years old. The average 478 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: twenty five a game. When you were twenty three, you're 479 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: an All Star. When you were twenty four, UM, you 480 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: got to the conference finals, UM in what was it, 481 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: your fourth year UM in the league, So so that 482 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: you kind of experienced what they are experiencing now of 483 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: not being able to break through to the NBA finals 484 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: in these young years. But talk to me about what 485 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the challenges were when you're a young player still trying 486 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: to figure it out, and some people out there might 487 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: not understand, like there's gotta be some level of patients, 488 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: Like there's not a lot of guys who are under 489 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: twenty five years old leading teams to the NBA finals. 490 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: It never happens, right, Well, you know, these guys have 491 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: finally established themselves, you know, within the year as NBA 492 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: superstars individually, and you know that's you know, you want 493 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: to come into the NBA and make a name for yourself. 494 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: And I think over these last couple of years, you 495 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: saw that with Jayson Tatum and jay Lyn Brown. Now 496 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: the fine line is, you know, having an understanding how 497 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: do I take my individual success and put that into 498 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: the team's success now and make the team better to 499 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: where we take the next step. And that's what I 500 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: had to learn. You know, at the end of the day. 501 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't all ways about having a huge scoring games, 502 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: but how can I make my teammates blutter? But you know, 503 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: they're in a position to where they've had earlier success 504 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: than I had. You know, they're in the conference finals 505 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: as what rookies yeah and so now and they weren't 506 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: stars yet, but they had a collective unit that was 507 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: really good. Now they've established themselves at individual stars. And 508 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, when you get to this point, you're still 509 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: so young, it could be frustrating, you know, because now 510 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, when you get when you become these stars, 511 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: expectations follow. You know, now, Okay, I've made the All 512 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: Star team. I've done this. Now Lebron is out of 513 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference? Are the celt Is gonna take that leap? 514 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: And this just goes to show you how tough it 515 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: is to win in the NBA Because you saw the 516 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: Celtics a few years ago, you were like, this is 517 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: the team of the future, this is the team that's 518 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna be running the Eastern Conference. But one player can 519 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: change the team sportunes and we saw that, you know 520 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: with Brooklyn. You know, we're seeing that with these other 521 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: teams like the Clippers and and getting Kauai and then 522 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: you know him ended up in Toronto and winning the 523 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Chip and so nothing is ever guaranteed. And so yeah, 524 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: they have time. Yeah they're young, uh, and so they'll 525 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: have to figure it out. But they need more help, 526 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, you need to all stars. And they've established 527 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: themselves as to all stars. But you know they need 528 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: a little more depth if they want to take that 529 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: next step. And pe I got I got one more 530 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: question for you, and it's about the team. Tell me 531 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: how you feel about Rob Williams, right, Tom Lord, I honestly, 532 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: my honest opinion, I think he could be the Celtics 533 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: uh center for the future. Um. I think he could 534 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: work on his body a little bit more. But I 535 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: just want to hear it coming from your mouth, because 536 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, you and I be having these conversations all 537 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: the time, Lives. I think he's a great fit for them. 538 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy who you know, he could 539 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: really contribute without having the ball, and you got guys 540 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: like Kimba and and Tatum. These guys gonna have the ball. 541 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: These guys are office. He reminds me a lot of 542 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: you perk. You know, he's in there doing the dirty work. 543 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: He's young, you know, he's he's blocking shots. He can 544 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: rebound at a high level, which he did in college. 545 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: Way more athletic than me. He's super athletic. You know, 546 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: you're rising up for those dudes. Pete had to drop 547 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: them off, you know, you know what I'm saying that, 548 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: But he was He's a guy that I can see 549 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: his mentality. He loves to do the dirty work, and 550 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: you know he he understands what his role is for 551 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: his team to be successful. He's just young, and you know, 552 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: everybody can't be the star. He's gonna be a guy 553 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna do dirty work and he's gonna make a 554 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of money in this league, you know, being a 555 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: guy block shots, rebound, run the court, catch lives. I mean, 556 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: look at Click Cappella, look look at where he is. 557 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: He can be just like that guy and Click Conpeller 558 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: right now could arguably arguably being all NBA players right now. 559 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: And I agree, And so you know, he reminds me 560 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: a lot of him in aspect, and I think he 561 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: is the center of the future. So, Paul, when when 562 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: you look back on that time of when you were 563 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: young and you had to wait until you were like 564 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: what thirty years old, right until KG and Ray came 565 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: to town. So I'm just curious, like when you look 566 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: back at that time and you try to figure out 567 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: what you could have done differently to maybe speed up 568 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: the timeline of getting that other person to town or 569 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: or helping your team get to the next level. What 570 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: what are maybe some things that you would have done 571 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: differently when you were back at their stage where they are. 572 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure if there was much I 573 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: could have did differently, because when I look at the 574 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: whole dynamics of how it all went, because in the 575 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: middle of me, you know, making my first All Star Game, 576 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: getting to the Eastern Conference Finals, the organization how to 577 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: change in direction. Uh. And so right after that, you 578 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: gotta understand, we lost the coach, we lost a couple 579 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: of coaches. Uh. New ownership ship group comes in, Uh, 580 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: new GM Danny Ainge comes in and they decide, Okay, 581 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: where I think we're heading in the right direction. They're like, okay, well, 582 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: we don't think this team long run can sustain this. 583 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna rebuild. And I'm in the middle 584 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: of really establishing myself as an NBA All Star, and so, uh, 585 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, my path was a little different. It was 586 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: like I was getting there, I was going I was 587 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I was hit in the right direction, and then all 588 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was everything was swept from up 589 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: under me. Because we had an All Star at Antoine 590 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: Walker who was traded. Uh. You know, we had great 591 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: role players Tony Batti, who are who were shipped off? 592 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: And so it was like, wow, you know we're going 593 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: into a rebuild and then and that and also I 594 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: almost was traded with a lot of people don't know 595 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: because and only my fourth year after signing my long 596 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: term deal. Do you know we drafted three players at 597 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: my position, which I never understood that Kendrick Brown, Joe Forte, 598 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: these guys are are perunter guys and Joe Johnson all 599 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: that my position, Jason Tatum and Janlen Brown and the 600 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: rest of this court. Hey, if you had one thing 601 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: to tell them as they go into this kind of 602 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: middle portion of their career, about to hit their prime 603 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: in the next couple of years, what would you tell them? Wow, 604 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I would just say, you know, keep 605 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: working and stay you know, stay patient. You know they're 606 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: they're far ahead of the game. I feel like, and 607 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: I was at this stage. Uh, but they got time. 608 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, they got time. You've got two tremendously talented 609 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: players who could play together for a long time. And uh, 610 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, right now they have to learn how to 611 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: become leaders. I think the game is there now. They 612 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: have to learn how to be a leader to this 613 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: ball club. You know, I'm not there on the everyday basis, 614 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: so I don't know how they leave, but you know, 615 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: sometimes it shows on the court, and so they have 616 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: to continue and getting better and that aspect of their 617 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: careers because when you have teammates that, like Perk said, 618 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: he would have ran through the wall for me, you know, 619 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: earn your teammates, you know, love your teammates. And I 620 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: think the thing I had that was great for that 621 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: work for me is I spent time with all my teammates. 622 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, it didn't matter if you were the last 623 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: guy on the bench or in the starting line up. 624 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: I spent I got to know every single one of 625 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: my teammates that came through there and uh and I 626 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: invited them all out to dinner all the time. We 627 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: all we always did things. And I think that goes 628 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: a long way too. You know, how you develop success 629 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: on the court is getting to learn your teammates off 630 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: the court. Uh and and and it helps for them 631 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: gaining that respect. And I know they already have it 632 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: because of the way they played, But just like it 633 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: go to I saw, I took a whole other level. 634 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Uh when I started to spending more time with my 635 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: teammates putting myself out there like that, like, man, come on, 636 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: gay pruit, we're going to eat. You know it might 637 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: be on my a rookie he like what you taking me? Like? Yeah, 638 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: me and you man, come on. As a matter of fact, home, 639 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: I need you to hold my jackie by the way 640 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: the whole night. We're gonna go eat. You know what 641 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But I need you to hold this. But 642 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: we're going It's like it's like one of those things 643 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: when your parents tell you, like you'll understand one day, right, 644 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: but but they just might not get it yet. But 645 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: when they get to your age, they'll be able to 646 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: look back and say, now I know what he was 647 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: talking about. Mark, Mark, don't forget for a second. First 648 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: of all, like as important as and Bootoo was, let 649 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: me tell you something. Paul used it all the time. 650 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: If he wanted like a soda or something like that, 651 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: he'd be like some bookie didn't want to get up 652 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: to Hey, I'm bootoo dog. Come on, you gotta you know, man, 653 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: you know you got that extra strip over there. Doesn't 654 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: two thousand six have to happen for you. The season 655 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: you had as the best player on the team that 656 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: was younger that didn't make the playoffs. Wasn't that a 657 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: very important part of making you the player you were 658 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: in the second half of your career. Oh yeah, absolutely, man, 659 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: And uh man, a lot of moving parts happened. It 660 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: was just like, when I look at that how it 661 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: all happened. I got hurt, and I've never been hurt 662 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: in my career. In two thousand and six, you know, 663 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: I have a stress fracture in my foot that I 664 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: played on for like three games before I realized it 665 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: was it was cracked. And we go on this eighteen 666 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: game losing streak. Man, do you guys know, I don't 667 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: know if you guys know how frustrated I was. They're 668 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: going to the game's night in and night out, like, Wow, 669 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: we're farther away than I thought. You know, we were 670 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: a team that had a lot of young guys that 671 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: can maybe push for eight slot, maybe to a team 672 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: that like, man, we're farther away than I thought to 673 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: where I want to be at this point in my career. 674 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: And uh man, you guys don't know. It was a 675 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of secret meetings going on with me, Danny Wigs, 676 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: Steve Sully up in those offices and trying to determine, 677 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: like what's direction are we all trying to go in? 678 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: And in the end the right direction it worked itself out. 679 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, we have to we have the best 680 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: odds to get the number one pick, and we get 681 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: the fifth pick. I was like, what else that can happen? 682 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: I mean, we have the worst record, we get the 683 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: fifth pick. The basketball guys wearing on our side initially, 684 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: but that fifth pick turned in the ray Aalen, Yeah, 685 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, Allen turned into KG. I mean it could 686 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: have won so many different ways because if say we 687 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: do get the number one pick, say we get Kevin Durant, 688 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: I mean, oh man, it could have winn so so 689 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: many variables. It's just so much the domino effect, you 690 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: guys understand. I think about it all the time. That's 691 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: a perfect wrap up. You you talked with with Perk 692 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: about dominoes earlier in the call. Now we're talking about 693 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: dominoes at the end. I love it. No, Paul Pierce Man, 694 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: congrats on the Hall of Fame nomination. Hopefully you're gonna 695 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: hear that good news sometime soon. It sounds like you 696 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: may have heard a little. But I also want to 697 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: give a shout out to KG, my boy man. I'm 698 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: excited for him going to Hall of Fame. I'm gonna 699 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: be right there. I'm flying in the Boston uh Friday 700 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: and so uh you know, we're gonna head out to 701 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: the mohegan Son hang Out, have some grub and you know, 702 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait to be there to support my brother. 703 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: I love it, enjoy it. Maybe maybe one day, Maybe 704 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: one day will tell the story of Antoine's night at 705 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Mohican Sun after that preseason game. Oh, I got a 706 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: lot of stories there. We go that that's behind the 707 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: scenes with the Boston Soltis. We'll get into that in 708 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: the future episode, no doubt. Paul Pierce Man, thanks for 709 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: the time enjoyed this weekend. I'm sure it's gonna be 710 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Definitely, Mark Sho speaking with yall.