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<v Speaker 1>Here you University of Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas native Here

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get started, obviously, I'm sure everybody's heard the

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<v Speaker 1>news by now that I will not be returning to ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out this information a little earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>and really the only thing that I really ask is, like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>could we wait until Monday. My brother's going into the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Hall of Fame. I really wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>about him, and I wanted to be about my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this would I said, this coming out will

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<v Speaker 1>overshadow everything that each works his entire life for. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it didn't happen that way. And so as

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<v Speaker 1>I told him, as I profusely apologized to him earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Bro, stop apologizing. You don't have to apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your big bro. I'm gonna love you regardless. We

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<v Speaker 1>all make mistakes, We've all and he says, Bro, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you, So I'm done with this. You're done with

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<v Speaker 1>it too, move on. And I really enjoyed my time

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<v Speaker 1>at ESPN. It gave me an opportunity to bring my

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<v Speaker 1>audience that saw me really just grow. They saw me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lakers and five, and they saw me say

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<v Speaker 1>all these funny these analogies that my grandparents gave me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was able to bring that to ESPN. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very very grateful for that, but I just wished

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<v Speaker 1>of all things, Like I said, Hey, they did what

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<v Speaker 1>they felt they needed to do, and I'm at peace

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But I just wish, guys, I just wish

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<v Speaker 1>this thing could have could have waited until Monday, because

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the fact that I'm overshadowing my brother the

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<v Speaker 1>first two brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what the headline is gonna be for

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of days. So Bro, again, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you told me this. I don't have to apologize, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it one final time tonight, and I

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<v Speaker 1>won't apologize again. I'm sorry that I upstaged you in

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<v Speaker 1>this manner. You know that was never my intent. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been my hero, You've been my role model from as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I can remember. And I apologized, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thank all my fans for supporting me when I was

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<v Speaker 1>at ESPN and every place that I've been being Club

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<v Speaker 1>Shay Shade, Nightcap, Undisputed ESPN. Thank you guys for your support.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get into what we came here for. NFL

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe, they mad at you NFL fans, little Heart

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<v Speaker 1>at Cam Forard's rating. He got a seventy two. Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter has the highest rating for a rookie. He has

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<v Speaker 1>an eighty four. Ashton Genty has an eighty three. Abdul

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<v Speaker 1>Carter is an eighty one, Mason Graham is an eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Campbell and Jalyn Walker are seventy nine. Kenneth Grant

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<v Speaker 1>is seventy eight, Johati Baron is seventy eight. Michel Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Williams, I think Michael is seventy eight. Maxwell Harriston

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<v Speaker 1>is a seventy eight. Cam Ward did not even crack

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten of Madden Rookie ratings. Someone calling it

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute joke. O Joe, what you got to say

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I got it. I got something to say all

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<v Speaker 3>of those obviously that you got people that are complaining

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<v Speaker 3>about obviously players on their team that have got drafted

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<v Speaker 3>into the first round. Now we talk about Aston Genty,

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about obviously if you, if you, if you

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<v Speaker 3>watch no collegiate football, they were exceptional. We got a

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<v Speaker 3>Heisman winner, and we got.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a standards Russian record exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's understand what they did now, young bull, that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>my dude. Cam Ward was phenomenal at you and in

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<v Speaker 3>turning that program around. But listen, this is what we

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<v Speaker 3>saw fit to put him as before the season starts.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to remember some of these players haven't played

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<v Speaker 3>a down on the NFL yet, and everybody wants their

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<v Speaker 3>rated to be super high when they done nothing. Now

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<v Speaker 3>rightfully sold Travis Hunter a special individual, asking genty a

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<v Speaker 3>special individual. I'm not saying that cam Ward is not special.

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<v Speaker 3>He is that being the quarterback number one for the

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee Titans. But listen, a seventy one in justifiable which

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<v Speaker 3>most rookies come in at the quarterback position at and

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<v Speaker 3>how you getting mad? This is nothing but room to

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<v Speaker 3>improve what we do at at EA, what we do

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<v Speaker 3>for Madden. There's a seventeen game season that's coming up

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<v Speaker 3>right now, right John, Absolutely, week the week that rating

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<v Speaker 3>continues to rise and raise based on cons It could

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<v Speaker 3>drop that too, So listen. By by no means it

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<v Speaker 3>is where you're going to be at, but it can

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<v Speaker 3>approve week the week, so it shouldn't be a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the players might be upset, cam Ward, I

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<v Speaker 3>love you. You know how I feel about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Boy?

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<v Speaker 3>You hear me? Week the week? Week there, week as

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<v Speaker 3>you've balled and you play consistent. You got Calvin really

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<v Speaker 3>over there. I know what you're gonna do. You got

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<v Speaker 3>time to locket. I know what you're gonna do week

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<v Speaker 3>to week. They gonna continue the rise, And I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing to be ashamed of. Hey, hey, when I

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<v Speaker 3>came out of I was I was a sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't complain.

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<v Speaker 2>That put a chip on my Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it so hard though, for rookies to come

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<v Speaker 1>into Madden with like a eighty six eighty eight raid?

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand, you know, well, I'm saying, so there isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't. There's never gonna be a rookie that can

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<v Speaker 1>come in and they can dominate right away as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Madden rain, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand, understand, Joey, O, Joe, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand that you know, during the season your rate can

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<v Speaker 1>go up and down. I think you know you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But why everybody has to start so low?

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably what avid gamers are really thinking, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>why he got to be so low when obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>know I understand what's going on. Well, oh, cho let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you to ask this. Let me ask your

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<v Speaker 1>question as an avid gamer. Where you where did you

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<v Speaker 1>start where you are now? Or did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>work your way up? See you didn't come in casanatt

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<v Speaker 1>did not come in with this big scream just big

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<v Speaker 1>screaming platform and have all these subs.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to work his way up.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how popular somebody is, if lebron I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. I mean they want something that they

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<v Speaker 1>have work for it. You look, I get Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>got a eighty four, but he probably upset that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably like, man, I should be.

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<v Speaker 1>A ninety nine, saying I won the Heisman Trophy, I

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<v Speaker 1>won the Blittan, the coff Blitt, the Cup of Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>I won this award, I'm the defensive player of the year. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>So he thinks his rating is low at eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody everybody's like, man, I should be a ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I should be this, I should be that.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean give it time. Well they used to didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have no rating. So I went from a zero

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred, so anything's possible.

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<v Speaker 3>See, it's a good thing, Clavis Hunter. If people understand

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<v Speaker 3>the accolades and the resume that comes behind. Why he's

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<v Speaker 3>an eighty four. You'd understand it. You look at asking

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<v Speaker 3>gent will your compass at the Coleegic level, there's the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why he's rated where he is. There's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with Cambore, nothing at all. He's a great quarterback. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>hoping he's quarterback number one for Tennessee. And he does

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<v Speaker 3>the same goddamn thing see the Stride dead for Houston,

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<v Speaker 3>and the same goddamn thing Jaydon Day dead for good

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<v Speaker 3>damn Washington. But seventy one is good. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to give these great ratings and then you have nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to look forward to. You have nothing to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 3>There's room for improvement. And if he plays how I

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<v Speaker 3>feel and know he can play week to week, by

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<v Speaker 3>the time you get the week fifteen, week sixteen, hell,

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<v Speaker 3>he could be an eighty six eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm. You're not gonna make everybody happy with the radio, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand that it's subjective, and anytime you dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>something subjective, there's gonna always be a problem with the

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<v Speaker 1>judges or in your case, a judge who helps adjust

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<v Speaker 1>the Madden rating. And so that's what you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just like anything anything that's subjective, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's diving, if it's gymnastics, anything that's

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<v Speaker 1>left up to judges unless I win, unless it's a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect ten or in this case, they're perfect ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna have something to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure yes, somebody's gonna have something to say pass

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<v Speaker 1>the tay. Like bro I won Defensive Player of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year and I ain't a ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I'm all pro.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pro bowler, back to back Pro Bowl season

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<v Speaker 1>and I ain't a ninety nine. I mean, damn what

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<v Speaker 1>I got it? So what do I have to do

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<v Speaker 1>to get a night? And he's probably thinking, and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to him, but I'm saying, oh, Joe, he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably thinking, oh, what I gotta win?

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<v Speaker 2>M v p oh on.

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<v Speaker 3>He done tweeted me. Now he didn't got me. I

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<v Speaker 3>told him. I told him, twin, I got you, I

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<v Speaker 3>got you, relaxed. I know what you did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>We understand how special specially you are. Hell, we had

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<v Speaker 3>a whole goddamn dissertation with the with the premier seven

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL about how difficult it is to get

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<v Speaker 3>open on you. I'm gonna take care of you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get you. But as it is all and this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is a funny thing on Hey Joe, this

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<v Speaker 3>was this was this was this what kind of hurts

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<v Speaker 3>my nerve? All the people that are complaining about batis right.

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<v Speaker 3>All these avid gamer all these mad enthusiasts like y'all

0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.480
<v Speaker 3>complain about raids and not even a good at the game.

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<v Speaker 3>They not not even They just complaining to be complaining

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<v Speaker 3>because if you were really good, the rating wouldn't matter

0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.199
<v Speaker 3>because it's all about your stick work, being able to manipulate,

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<v Speaker 3>maneuvers on how to play like nobody. A small fun fact, Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>and something you didn't know, not only by the mad

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<v Speaker 3>raiding is juste right. You know, I'm the best Madden

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<v Speaker 3>player in the world, that Madden player in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, hey Joe, in the world, Joe. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why when I hear people complaining about me doing the rains,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you can't even play because I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about nobody raising because my stick work is is elite.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had to get the game of tag and

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<v Speaker 2>check you out. Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>You like that, Joe, don't do that to your death, Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like that, Yeah, Joe, Hey, hey Joe, they call

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<v Speaker 3>me thumbs. You get down like that. Yeah, they caught

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<v Speaker 3>me thumb. Yeah, they call me thumb like that on

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<v Speaker 3>that game and stuff. Man, that's all I do. Hey, Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>I lost relations I lost, Hey, Joe, he I lost

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<v Speaker 3>relationships behind game and Joe. That's how serious I take

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<v Speaker 3>me too, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to say, look, Derrick Henry has a case

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<v Speaker 1>to be here, Like, hold on, bro I let the

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<v Speaker 1>league of rush touchdowns. I had the second most rush

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<v Speaker 1>yards nineteen hundred and twenty with nineteen hundred twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I ain't a ninety nine. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what more do I gotta do?

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<v Speaker 3>So, look, they're everybody in ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm That's the point that I'm getting at is that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody unless you are ninety nine. Really only the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that have the ninety nine are happy with their grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else, whether they got a ninety eight, ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, they're not happy with their grade. I just

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<v Speaker 1>never understood me, honestly, Oh yo, I really never understood

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<v Speaker 1>it because just because you're not a nine on the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That don't mean you ninety nine on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you ninety six eighty four, well whatever, that don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you like that now right? You have to prove

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<v Speaker 1>it to me every single week. You might start out

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<v Speaker 1>as a nine and nine, but I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>see a ninety nine week one week, five week, ten week,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve week, fifteen, sixteen. The guys that got the rating, kudos,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Chase and Miles Garrett. And whether the quarterback they

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<v Speaker 1>got nine or nine, I don't know. If they're the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>they got it. Like I said, I think uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I think Lamar Lamar, Lamar, Lamar lamar Jos Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen. Yeah, they deserved it. Okay, cool, but I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you will y'all get it on the field. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>nobody thinking about nobody rating Ojo? Well you would again,

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<v Speaker 1>you would against dB oh Man. I ain't gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get over that Jo ninety six oh Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know what I would do, but let.

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<v Speaker 3>Me taste something though. And Joe, Hey, the players really

0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:45.760
<v Speaker 3>do care about their ratings though they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, I didn't got I didn't. Got a few text

0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.760
<v Speaker 3>messages I see passing them like come on, so do

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<v Speaker 3>me right? Due is yes? And I tell them one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>If you got a problem with your your ratings, I

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<v Speaker 3>can show you why you are what you are. I

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<v Speaker 3>can break it down in PowerPoint presentation and let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>See they used to the players used to think, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they got somebody that ain't never played the game and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know the rate. No, I know, I'm watching film.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm breaking film down, and we're we're basing your rating

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<v Speaker 3>based on your play, not just week to week, also

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<v Speaker 3>against elite play against other players at composition that are

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<v Speaker 3>really really good. Are you going to show up?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't just play good when it's somebody that you know

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<v Speaker 3>is a little beneath you that you happen to be

0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.560
<v Speaker 3>going against week one and two? You know how you

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<v Speaker 3>show up against the big boys that are in your

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<v Speaker 3>upper echelon of skill and talent.

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<v Speaker 1>A y'all know this, this this video game stuff, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And then came a long way, you know, from when

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<v Speaker 1>we was kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of these cats.

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<v Speaker 1>Get oh yeah yeah, getting a chance to be in Madden,

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<v Speaker 1>getting a chance to be in NBA, two K, Like, yes,

0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the ratings are a big deal. Dudes look forward to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seeing what they got on the game. You

0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, within themselves. So I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>understand it to an extent, but like say, it's shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't please everybody, man. Lamar Jackson in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>was a seventy nine. Trevor Lawrence in twenty twenty two

0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.400
<v Speaker 1>was a seventy eight. Joe Burrow in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>was a seventy six. Patrick Mahomes in twenty seventeen was

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy six. Caleb Williams in twenty twenty five was

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy six. Josh Allen the year he came out

0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.320
<v Speaker 1>all these are rookies, I might add, was seventy four.

0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Cam Ward is a seventy two.

0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.360
<v Speaker 1>So Joe Burrow was a seventy six coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy and statistically had the greatest season ever for

0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. He threw over five thousand yards and sixty

0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:47.680
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns and had chased so and he got a seventy six.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson was a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback and he

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<v Speaker 1>got a seventy nine. Patrick Mahomes just had a game

0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>where he threw for over seven hundred yards. Caleb Williams

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<v Speaker 1>a Heisman Trophy winning quarter back with a seventy six.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, what y'all want, y'all y'all want, y'all

0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.760
<v Speaker 1>want to put him? Y'all wanted man? And oh your

0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.439
<v Speaker 1>the adjusters, all those adjusters to put him at what

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<v Speaker 1>what would be a great What would be an ideal

0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:19.120
<v Speaker 1>rating for a rookie cab ward? Eighty five? Eighty sixty

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<v Speaker 1>ain't nothing, but that's what I'm asking. What would be

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<v Speaker 1>an ideal rating to appease the masses?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen? What do he need? What do you need? An eighty?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're here, seventy one right now, seventy two. I

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<v Speaker 1>think people think I'm just speaking probably for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they specially gamers. Probably by the seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, he could be that by week five.

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<v Speaker 2>I understanding.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, listen. Tennessee could be the dark horse team this year. Up.

0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.399
<v Speaker 3>There's only the team that come out of nowhere and just,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my goodness, they wore us. They do things we

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<v Speaker 3>thought they couldn't do based on what they did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>They might be him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna understand why Lamar got a seventy nine

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.639
<v Speaker 1>because Lamar had legs and and arm, So I can

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<v Speaker 1>see why the same reason he got in ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the same reason Josh Allen got in ninety nine, because

0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.000
<v Speaker 1>not only can they beat you with their arm, they

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.480
<v Speaker 1>can beat you with their legs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get.

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Why Lamar coming out with a seventy nine and Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew he was athletic, but we didn't know Josh

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>was like this athletic. We saw Kayler Williams with the

0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.320
<v Speaker 1>hocus polkas and all that other the old things that

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.880
<v Speaker 1>he did, Heisman Trophy winning. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody wasn't gonna be happy with their rating. Somebody wasn't

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be happy that they got a seventy. Somebody got

0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.200
<v Speaker 1>an eighty five and they're not happy with that. Somebody

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.360
<v Speaker 1>got a ninety four and they're not happy with that.

0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>So you're not going to be able to please everyone.

0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.880
<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what you can do. You can

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.399
<v Speaker 1>play and change that grade it. You know what the

0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>teacher used to tell you, Oh, I'm gonna give you

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.439
<v Speaker 1>some extra curricular work and you can pull that b

0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.199
<v Speaker 1>up to A A. Or you can take that A

0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and go to an A plus, or you can take

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that C and take it to a B. That's all

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.720
<v Speaker 1>on you. Okay, you don't like the grade the seventy two,

0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:18.360
<v Speaker 1>do something about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. It is, it is. And speaking now to

0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.159
<v Speaker 3>be on the topic a football. You know what what

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I love about I hate to go off topic. What

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<v Speaker 3>I love about Twitter right now is the clips that

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I keep seeing from camp with the one on ones,

0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 3>the receivers. I'm happy. I'm joy breaking down with each

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.000
<v Speaker 3>receiver did wrong or what the dB did wrong but

0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.360
<v Speaker 3>the dB did right, and with the receiver did wrong,

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 3>and just breaking it down and watching it. Man that

0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about. I feel like a little kid in

0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.400
<v Speaker 3>the candy store just watching some of the videos from

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:53.240
<v Speaker 3>from like Brown's camp. I saw some one on ones

0:19:53.240 --> 0:20:00.280
<v Speaker 3>with with the Panthers that ke Ke Coleman, ke On Coleman. Well,

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Kean Coleman sent me.

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.440
<v Speaker 2>His one on one video so far from Buffalo. Yes,

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 2>he sent me.

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 3>He sent them to my phone. I'm looking like, boy,

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.119
<v Speaker 3>you've been putting some work, but it's all seated. So

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 3>and that's what I'm saying in my head. I ain't

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 3>even get a chance to hit him back. But he

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 3>sent me some stuff, you know, the go over and

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.520
<v Speaker 3>just you know, to talk a little bit critique it.

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Cochy man. Listen, man ke, I know you're probably gonna

0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.199
<v Speaker 3>see this boy. I gear that for right now, you know,

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.120
<v Speaker 3>but I need to see it on Sundays. I need

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 3>to see it on Sunday. But but you look good boy.

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Because the thing is o jo. You know.

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>The difference between one on one and practice and one

0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 1>on one in the game is that somebody might you

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.200
<v Speaker 1>might think one on one and they playing zone. Well,

0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, one on one in practice, it's all one.

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It's all man to man. Ain't a zone, right, so

0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you run it in hand.

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 2>You patient? Everybody got patience in practice. O yo.

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're taking your time. You setting no boy up.

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know come game time, hey, ain't nobody rushing

0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that see, ain't nobody in the quarterback and you got.

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 2>To go to go all that.

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback. This is what happened to your quarterback. Why you

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 1>did it? Your quarterback slop? Your quarterback slopped over the

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>wheel because he got hit the back of his head.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it was it was I don't mean I'm so excited,

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 3>make me so excited. Though there was a there was

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 3>a rep on on on Twitter with Denzel Ward. Jesus Christ,

0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 3>my god, this motherfucker so polished. Oh I'm sorry.

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, come on, you're gonna get day. We ain't

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna make no money tonight.

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Bro Listen, listen, listen. It was Cedric Tillman and Denzel

0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Ward bump and run and and it was. It was

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.160
<v Speaker 3>when it's done right, the game of football is so beautiful. Yes,

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.440
<v Speaker 3>from a from a position standpoint, I'm not gonna I'm

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 3>not gonna break it down right now, but it was.

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 3>It was man that with Dinzel Wards. It's nice about

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:54.879
<v Speaker 3>the technician.

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, see the thing is he's he's a small frame,

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>so he has to be nice because he doesn't he

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have you.

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Know, overwhelming sides right right, so you know what I'm.

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Saying, Oh Joe, So he his technique has to be flawless,

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you though, he's here here, you know he

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 1>he's great that he's loose in his hips, so he's

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>great to eat, to turn, to run. He's very fluid.

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<v Speaker 1>He transitions very well. When you hear oh he transitioned. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he back pedal, drop a start to run. Hey, dB,

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<v Speaker 1>comeback in the comeback. Oh, y'all on that too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one that too. I dropped my hips. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey. So I just want you to know I'm right here, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle o Joe. And at this time and the year,

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<v Speaker 2>at this at this time of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Year doing camp. Tell me something, y'all, y'all enjoy coming

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<v Speaker 1>into camp already like in peak shape or you kind

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of use camp to kind of you know, get it.

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 2>In peak shape. You get in shape player.

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<v Speaker 3>Football no matter how much he does out.

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<v Speaker 1>I see guys out there who don't look like they're

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>in great shape, man, And I see some guys who

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>look like that in elite shape. That's all I'm saying.

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like, but where's your mindset coming into camp? No,

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the thing was, look I taped off like the last

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, I was still I was probably like not

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>at that point in time, I was probably ninety percent.

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing. This is how you know you're

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>not in shape. When they were putting that two minute

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 1>drill on your ass and every a you run a go,

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you run a post and you wanna come back. Yes,

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing you do this after three plays,

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that lets you know right now you ain't where you

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>need to be. Comes to and and come and now

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.959
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens to guys now, o Joe, because at

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 1>least and and uh and preseason, we're gonna get everything

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that we need to do in the regular season, we're

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to some of that. Yeah, they're gonna say,

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.479
<v Speaker 1>you know what, because Mike might say, you know what,

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna open up the game with two minutes.

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna open up the game with no.

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<v Speaker 1>Huddle because I want to make sure we get some

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>of that with our number ones. So before anybody gets Dean,

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make sure we get that. We're gonna get

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>some short yardage in goal line. We're gonna make sure

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>we get some a twelve personnel, We're gonna get some

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel. You know, we're gonna get some empty set.

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get all of that, Joe. But yes, it

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>gives you a great foundation because we've been sprinting on

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the track, and we've been running.

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Hundreds and two hundreds and one, fifties and threes.

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 1>We've been doing all that, But we ain't been doing

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>none of that with no helmet and no joke past.

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 2>That's what we ever been doing exactly.

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And so now once guys start leaning on you and

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>we all do always do that stuff on the third day,

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>when that soreness, when that old man city, yeah.

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Already that old man said it on your joke man.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, Hey, look, I enjoyed camp like it was always fun.

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>But the best times is when you come into camp

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and you already kind of in great, great shape because

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>they gonna run the dogs.

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Jock out in the NBA. You know what I mean.

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna do a lot of seventeen you know them, Uh,

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what was naming them down the backs and

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta make it a certain amount of time, y'all.

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Y'all do suicide NBA.

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>What man, Listen, I don't know what they're doing right now,

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying, when I came into the league, ohoe

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and oh one man, we work, bro, like I'm talking

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>about line drill seventeens just the end practice. Yeah, like

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you had to be in shape, bro. You had we

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>had we had conditioning tests that we had to do.

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Hey, they was on that coach Cartervoutine.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't see that. But oh Joe,

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what we did too. See, we we did two

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes at the end of practice. We never did two

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>minutes at the beginning of practice. He said, because guess

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>what it's gonna be at the end of game, in

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>which you're gonna need a two minute So why doing

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it when you freshest, when you're gonna be at your

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>tired laking the ball game. So that's what I want.

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey man, we beat up Red and did all that stuff,

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, two minutes two minutes, man, I just got

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>off the field. They get you cut off hot, yeah,

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>they get you where you had it worse when you

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>tied dead dog tied. You re to get up out

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>of there, get get down on there. We got seventeen

0:25:56.400 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>everybody gotta make it. What yeah, yeah, And that's what

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that's And so yes, you want a good foundation and

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and and you're right, Joe, if you got that good foundation,

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot easier. But man, ain't nothing like football

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>football shape. But playing football, you got to do it

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you because you ain't blocking guys, I mean, you gotta

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>drive to try to get the guy. Hey, O joga.

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You gotta run, guys. You gotta run guys out because

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to block up and run the risks.

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>You got to run twenty thirty yards down the field

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 1>and come back and guess what do it again? If

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it's another run, play or it might be a play.

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, Hey, you ready for this deep ball?

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Now you Hey, you just ran to god thirty yards.

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Now you got to come back and run a go ball.

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 3>And you better and you better hope it's complete because

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 3>now you got to run back again.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It get a look different when the guys get on you,

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, because it's just like in basketball. You ain't

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>in You can go go to the track, get on

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the treadmill, do all the running you want to. But

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>once you get out there, somebody go to touching on

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you and pushing you. It's it's a lot different, all right, guys,

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Brown's on the Jimmy Haslm felt the need of unprompted

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>to tell the media yesterday that your door Sanders was

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>not his pick. Let's take a listen to what the

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 1>owner had to say about selecting your door.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Good process.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and if you just told me you see you

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 3>picked him on Saturday, right Friday night, driving home pic

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 3>your door, I would say that that's not happening.

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.959
<v Speaker 1>But we had a conversation earlier that morning, in your

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>conversation later that.

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Day up here at the right people involved in.

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>The conversation, or if at the end of the day,

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's in Barry's call, if you made the call to

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>picture door, just like he's gonna start or what play

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna call.

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>It is Kevin's call. But that's that's Andrew's call and

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>made them talk. Who asked him that?

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Why did he Why did he feel the need to

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 1>share that information on Joe?

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Nobody? That's what unprompted?

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>So you drift, Mitch, ain't Nobody asked you what round

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>did you think was gonna take your dow in?

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Why did you take? Nobody asked you that.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if so he felt the need, and I get it,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes he's the owner, but it's like, I'm like, bro,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>if y'all felt if you feel this well by your door,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>why y'all still got Themand it seemed like every time

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I turn around, oh Joe, somebody trying to take a

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>dig at it.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well I got I got a question. I have

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>a question for the chat and Uncle Joe. I'm not

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 3>sure if y'all know how long did Jimmy hasn't been

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 3>with the Cleveland Browns A long ass time, A long time.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 3>So since two thousand, the Cleveland Browns have thirty five

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>different starting quarterbacks. In two thousand, thirty five different starting quarterbacks.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>But now you're going to take it for yourself to

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>say that jadere saying is one your pick and that's

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>probably why it's gonna work, because you had no dealings

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 3>in him being drafted. I'm watch all God work, watchy'all

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 3>God work.

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>What about all the other picks you had who picked

0:28:58.640 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>with they?

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>He is?

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 3>But he hey, listen, he never He never came out

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 3>before and said never.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, when I when I look at it, when

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I look at it, I just like how a young

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>man going about itself?

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Man should do you know what I mean?

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Like, there's no there's no better way to go about

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this than keep your head down and keep working.

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Bro. He's uh. I think he's been doing a phenomenal

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>job at that. Obviously.

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's been keeping up with what's been going

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>on in Cleveland. I know I have UH and he

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>looked like he looked like he looks comfortable out there

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, and he looks like he's still enjoying

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the game, man. And I think this is just more

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, fuel to the fire as opposed to it's

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna help him out throughout the regular season, throughout his

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>season or throughout his NFL career in general. So I

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>understand what what what the owner said, but uh, I

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>think she do it doing an awesome job. With all

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>this that's going around. You can see he's in the community,

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>not only in the community, but he looked like he's

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>playing his butt off.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Now. I don't know how much. I don't know how

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>much any of this.

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Way with you know, what he's been doing in you know,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>in the OTAs and off season and camp and all that.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I don't lie, bro. I know, you know,

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>they ain't out there hitting or nothing like that. But

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he looks comfortable out that.

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard for me to say because from everything

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that I read, he gets one or two reps with

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the first team and one or two reps period and

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that's it. It's reported that his dad wanted to come

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to camp just like he went to a Tampa. He said, no,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Daddy said Dad, he said, I might get three or

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>four reps. He says, I'm not where I want to be.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 1>But what if reported is being reported is true? But

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>once I get to where I want to be, coming

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>up being right. But I don't get this who it

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was that was? That was an Andrew Barry's pick. And

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just like the guys that play that's such and such.

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>So all these quarterbacks that y'all had, and I mean

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you have Baker, So who's picked with Baker and Baker. Look,

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Baker had had a decent and he got injured and

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, you know Baker's telling the story, they

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted him to, you know, turn tone it down a

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit and wouldn't let him be himself. And you see,

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Baker is like himself in Tampa and he's thriving. Now,

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>does he have a better collection of wide receivers around

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>him and Tampa that he had in Cleveland?

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes he does, he does.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Ain't no sense in us trying to fool Foolan said

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he has the same level of skill position players around

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>him because he doesn't.

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>He just doesn't.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>But I don't get why Jimmy Haslam felt the need

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>to take this shot.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>That should do her.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh uh, you know, if you'd have told me we

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>were gonna take him, I was like, that's not gonna

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>happen or whatever.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>He said? Why? I mean, why, why? Why did he

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>feel the need to say that? O Joe?

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 3>You know what they're trying to do. You know what

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to do, trying to break him. They use

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>the draft trying to break him. We're gonna make him. Wait, okay,

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>now he's here, he's doing everything he's supposed to do,

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 3>doing everything he's supposed to do plus the extra. Then okay,

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 3>how can we break him down? He's out here playing

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>very well to you, I told you what hey, listen,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 3>mayear is over that now, and is is over there.

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to be there to see and hear

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 3>they with me? Now? So what do we do now?

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 3>He's playing well, he's got the offense down, he's not

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 3>making too many mistakes. He's throwing touchdowns where he's running

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 3>with the one to two three of the falls.

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>So what we do now?

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 3>The one has to come and try to break him again,

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 3>break his spirit a little.

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Bit, Barry Pitt.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But listen, but why though, is it because of what

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>they may seem to be is flamboyant in college, because

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>he would a jewey, he would the ice Y's just

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>part of who he is. Man, It's just part of

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>his swag. That's how he grew up.

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Hey, really, Joe, honestly, that's all the collegiate athletes coming

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 3>out of college this year. Everybody look at all of them.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>They got a little bread, and so it seemed like

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to me a week attempt. The guy's already.

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Look.

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I know what people you say, Hey, you can you

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>maintain confidence, but when you're not getting any run, and

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you used to like, I'm a prime example of that.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I used to call my brother. I said, man, I

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>ain't get no run today. All he said, just be ready,

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>he said, John Elwire, gonna call your number, but make

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>sure when he called your number. I like, man, you

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>keep saying that. You said that yesterday all my number,

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>he said. I said, you keep I'm saying to myself,

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you keep saying that, but it ain't happening. And sure enough.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I ain't got nothing but time.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>The way I looked at it, Joe and O Joe,

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>is that as long as I'm here, I still got

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a chance. It's like, when I'm no longer there, I

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have a chance to make the team. So as

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>long as I can state, the longer I stay, because

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>guess what, I'm gonna do something. Y'all gonna put me

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and I'm gonna flash something I'm gonna make. I'm

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna make a block, you gonna put me on special teams.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do something that you say, you know what?

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That came from Savannah State. He too big, too strong,

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>too fast, not for us to final play by hey,

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>create a create a job for me.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>We ain't high.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 3>And the funny, the funny thing about it is all

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 3>the turmoil, all the all the negativity, but it's coming

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 3>from the Cleveland media, whether it's coming from the owner

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 3>gym has him and saying he wasn't my pick. When

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 3>that preseason starts and he gets his opportunity, the cream

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 3>is gonna rass at the top no matter what, because

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 3>good at doing one thing, he's good at playing football. Yes,

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 3>he's good at playing football. He's been a winner from

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Jackson State, the goddamn Colorado And now you're in a

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 3>different environment and that journey starts all over again. Even

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>with the enemy right in your backyard against you.

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's that's really hard to overcome, OYO, When when

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.479
<v Speaker 1>it seems like the people rooting against you, that's right there.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought I thought, I thought we was

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>all in this thing together. It don't seem like it.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I tell you, I tell you who on the side, though.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I tell you who on the side when that goddamn

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 3>when that goddamn stadium started rooting, start screaming for Shador,

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 3>when that goddamn dog pound start going crazy and the

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 3>chance starts start shouting for Shador, when things ain't going

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 3>right with the Browns, all right, I guarantee you know what,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 3>watch watch how to Play Out.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I just hope, I just hope he's still he's around,

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>loading up for those said things to happen.

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>That that that that's because think about o, Yo, you

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>signed Joe Flacco eighteen years well, you know he's not

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>He's year eighteen. He's not your answer long term. You

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>re signed Kenny Pickett hoping that he got a little

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>hamstring tweak. So now basically is Dylan Gabriel uh uh

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and should do her. But it seemed like Flacco and

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>get Gabriel and and and Flacco getting all the reps.

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what it appears to me from what I read now.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not you know, following it that close

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>because that you know, put all that time in there,

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and and guys that you're watching, they're not gonna be there.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>So as they get to the preseason on show, you

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>get the game or two and so we'll get a

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>better understanding, a better feel like okay, this kid, you know,

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>get an opportunity to see them guys play, like.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he can play.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I want to see guys play against somebody playing

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.919
<v Speaker 1>somebody else just trying to make a team.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Also, you don't know you y'all, don't walk.

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Off the field talking hey man, hey, you know what

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do tonight?

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Or well you know what you what you know such

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>and such.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I want to see you go against another guy

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>in another colored uniform that's in the same situation that

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>you are. He's trying to make he's trying to live

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>out his fantasy. He's trying to live out his dream.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to make sure his mom and his grandma

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and if he has a kid or a girlfriend or

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>significant other. He's trying to make sure they're taken care of,

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>just like you. But this, I'm shocked by what Jimmy

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Haslom had to say because nobody asked him. Nope, this

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>was something that you probably should have asked. Oh Joe,

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>after the draft, you asked, you asked this, Okay, So

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>what was your thought process taking your door in the

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>fifth round? You know, they said the grade they had

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>on him, the grade they had, and the grade they had.

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's when you're like, well, hey, we felt that,

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had this grade on him, and we

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>felt that, you know, he might be there, so we said,

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>now round between rounds four and five, if he's there,

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna grab it. Okay, But that's a couple that's

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a day after the drift. That's two days at worked

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>at best work case, that's a week after the draft.

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>O Joe, the drift was in April.

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Makes no sense.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>After the drift was in April, and here we are

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that like May June July. That's three that's three months.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>If we talking about that's an Andrew Berry pick and listen.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 3>I can understand if your decision making in the past,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 3>as if you the goddamn quarterback whisper yes, coming out

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and saying something like that and being confident about it,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 3>like you just yeah, been making golden when it came

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 3>to picking quarterbacks the last thirty five with your picks

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 3>in nothing. So probably this one that you had nothing

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 3>to do with, that might be the answer.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>If you Green Bay, y'all got bred farg and then

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you get Aaron Rodgers and now you got George Love,

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I would say, well, you know what, hey, oh Joe, Joe.

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>He might be on the s right right half. They

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>about to half fifty years of prosperity at the quarterback position.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But when you've had thirty five years of turmoil and

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>chaos at the quarterback position, with the exception of maybe

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>a year or two here or there, you got one

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>year Derek Anderson, you got a couple of years with Baker,

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>but other than that, let's be realistic. Now, come on, Browns. Yeah,

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and she does strikes me as a guy. You know,

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>when them lights come on, yo, I feel like he

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna perform at the highest level, you know what I mean,

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Like he gonna put on you know what I mean.

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the type of guy. He strikes me as so, man,

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be paying attention to them.

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Brown.

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>See what's gonna happen? Now, they got four quarterbacks over there, right?

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>What they what they gonna doka?

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Yo?

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't see a team keeping four quarterbacks, man, you know,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>part a part of me, a part of me. Hope

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they like try to put him on the practice squad

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and somebody comes side there.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>So they so you can carry you know, they'll carry

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>three quarterbacks and put.

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>One on the that's too many positions because the quarterbacks

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>don't play special team. So you got it though, because

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.799
<v Speaker 1>there's only there's only forty six guys, those spots are valuable.

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Normally you're carrying a guy, a wide receiver that could

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he can play multiple positions. He can play

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the eggs, he can play the Z, he can play

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the slot, and he plays special team. Same thing with

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker, same thing with the swing offensive line. But

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he can play guard, he can play tackle. Okay, So

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what to look at it. I'm looking at a

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that can play multiple positions because if I get

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody to go down, what can a quarterback do? Side quarterback?

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe your hope maybe maybe in high school. Oh Joe,

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>he punted or kicked to something. But for the most part,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you keep If you're gonna keep somebody extra, it's gonna

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>be a wide receiver, a dB, somebody that can play

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>special teams.

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 2>That's why they say he Special teams is the quickest.

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Way to earn a place on the rocks unless you

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted the top Now you top dog. Got mean, we

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>get that, you Joe Burrow or Chase or somebody like that.

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Lamards, we get that.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>But guys that are not that are not extra, like

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>say starter that when hey Rue's up, he runs on

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the field, and when if far and down, he comes

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>off the field, and he ain't got to stay out

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>there for punting. Special team. The more you can do,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the longer you can play. The more you can do,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the longer you can play. And but I don't, I don't.

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like this at all because, like I said,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>here we are three months in Ojoe and this man

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about that's an Andrew Barry Pick.

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 3>It's trying to break him up. It's all mind games.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>They are they are, they are, they did what they did.

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>They like, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna show you,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're gonna show coach Prime. You know, they

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, the man Ings and everybody looked

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>at the man, even Eli did what he did, and

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you know Arch and you know, so forth and so on.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>They're like, Nah, you're not gonna do that. We're gonna

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>show you that. We're gonna start it right here, and

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna take a little further. We only gonna

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:39.280
<v Speaker 1>get your handful of reps.

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.879
<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna see how how how long?

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Hey, if I'm trying to break it, they say they

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>put you in solitary, solitary o Joe, because they say,

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we used to communicate it, and when there's

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>no one to communicate to you, and all you can

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>do is hear your heart beat and the only the

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>only communication is going on in your own head.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 3>And you know what, that could be a good thing.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they put people in solitary confinement, right, and it

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.919
<v Speaker 3>does it more, It does it more good than harm

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 3>because it gives you to much time to think.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to be a solitary away from you.

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Sorry you can Yeah, I wanted to be a solitaire

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>oh your cause I want to be away from you. Sorry,

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Mobo so y'all back rub off on me. I think

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I think, look, look, I think he definitely locked in.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Though you can see it, Bro, you can see it, well,

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't really, he really doesn't have a choice.

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Time has done a great job

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Time dealing with what he's dealing with. Cause think about

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it now, it's still Time, son. But in the meantime,

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I've got to deal with what I've got to deal with.

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got something gravely going on with me and I

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>got two sons that because the only coach that should

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>do has ever had has been Time. Yep, he's the

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.959
<v Speaker 1>only only play for his dad played for his daddy.

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Jay played for his dad in high school and coming up,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>he coached him in Pop Warner. Time used to take

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>them kids all over the place. They play Snoop Dogg.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>They played, end up playing Snoop Dogg. When because the

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Time and I went to the hall together. Uh, they

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>playing all up in Texas. They coming, they coming, and

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>they're driving playing other teams. I think they played while

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they was up there in Canton. So that's the only

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>coach you've ever had. And now my dad's think about it, man,

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>my dad dealing with something I don't know, you know,

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what's really going on, because Tom said, you know, I

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>really didn't let the boys know what was really going

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>on because they gotta focus on that. The last thing

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>is to let your mind wander, O Joe. You know

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>when you in camp, hey, I'm here. That's what I

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>tell when you hear you gotta be here now. Now,

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>when you over there, deal with whatever you gotta deal

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:48.280
<v Speaker 1>with over there, and don't.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Worry about here. But when you hear you gotta be here.

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And so I think Time did a great job of

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>shielding him, not telling them the extent of what's really

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>going on with him so he can stay locked in.

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Especially we know how hard the quarterback position is to play,

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, the last thing you need is to be

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 1>worried about man, Pops, Man, samn, Pops. Really, Pop's really

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>messed up right now? Man, I ain't getting no burn.

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Pops messed up on a trip and saying all kind

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of crazy stuff.

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's a lot.

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like I said, you don't know what a person's

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>going through. You don't know, Uh, you know, you try

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>not to, you try to compartmentalize when I'm here, Joe, Ojoe,

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, and like when i'm when I'm done, I'll

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>deal with whatever I need to deal with off the field.

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll deal with that. Then.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Man, you just say, man, I can, I can. I

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>can brain work home, but I can't take you to work.

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's how it is. You can't be cause they

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you, oh yeah, there's there's more important things than sports.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 1>They line they say that for for the public, for

0:44:55.280 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>for public. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no no. When

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you play a professional sport, o jo, they're making a

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>buddy leclear. Oh yeah, that's the most important thing is

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that sport. Yeah, So Chel, keep your head up, keep

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>plugging away. Boy, do your thing. You built for this,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You are built for this. Daryl Murray also felt the

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about the Lakers twenty twenty title today.

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Murray said, had the Rockets won the title, I absolutely

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>would have celebrated as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience.

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Required.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Yet everyone speaking around the league privately agrees that it

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship. Perhaps the

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>last legacy of the NBA bubble is that the NBA

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.240
<v Speaker 1>should be proud of its leadership at both the beginning

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and the end of the pandemic, even through the champion

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>will forever be marked by an asterisk. Daryl morri you

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>should be the last one to talk after what you

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 1>almost blew up by saying what you said about China,

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and you got your busses, you got your butt.

0:45:58.840 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Out of there.

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Every see, everybody talks about, Well, it's an asterisk because

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you didn't win it. Now you just said, I absolutely

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>would have celebrated as legitimate doing the admiss everyty resilience

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>that it took to do it. But now because you

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't win it, So is there astery by the strike

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>a short year? What year that was? Ninety nine?

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? The strike short? Yeah?

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What about twenty twelve? Twenty twelve?

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Was the strike short? Didn't y'all didn't y'all? Wasn't y'all shorten?

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Twenty twelve?

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Joke? Yeah yeah, And uh, he don't ask you about

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>that one.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Huh.

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he put that astray by the bubble.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 1>But I honestly think because he didn't win, absolutely, But

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I honestly think I didn't think it was an advantage

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to anybody playing in the bubble, you know what I mean,

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't put no astray by, you know, because nobody.

0:46:59.560 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Ten's probably harder, y'all. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, No,

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was harder than neither. I

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like because you took away a lot of

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the elements of traveling, playing in altitude environments, things of

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that sort, like we are all right here, No, what

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>about you couldn't go nowhere? Yeah, I mean I know that.

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I know that's hard. I knew that was hard. You know,

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I tell you what I would do. I'll

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I would do, Joe. I would put

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you in. I would put you in your house for

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>one hundred days and all you could do is go

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to your backyard and come home.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 2>How much you can't do nothing? How much money I'm

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 2>making whatever? The playoffs play? Okay, So he's saying, just

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to play. Yeah, that's because that's what they can.

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Don't get no extra Hey, look, hey, look, I wasn't

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>locked obviously, you know I played in CBT.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't It wasn't nowhere near.

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>It's being locked in for ninety days or how many

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>days those guys locked in. I played in the TVT

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was a quarantine environment. We was locked in

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a hotel for like seven it's about ten days. So

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know the challenges that these dudes had

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to go through, But I'm saying I don't think it

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>should be an asterisk, like I think everybody was. No,

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. Yeah, no, I think I think everything about

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 1>with THET. Think about the pandemic itself.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Joke.

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people losing their mind. They couldn't go nowhere, o choke.

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't go to a you couldn't go sit inside

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant, or you couldn't go to a club, or

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't do it.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it was in some places, but

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I happened to be in Cali at the time. And

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 1>when I say Callie shut it down, Callie shut it down.

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Now I know.

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Georgia shut it down for a week. Florida shut it down.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Georgia wasn't shut down, but they were getting two of

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that out here. You and me, huh, I'll go yeah, yeah,

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 2>O Joe, listen.

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 3>It was it was easy for them, especially during that time.

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 3>It was easy for the people that don't actually that

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:52.320
<v Speaker 3>don't be outside. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't go anywhere anyway.

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 3>So when the when the pandemic happened, listen, I chose

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 3>that time to catch up on some stuff Netflix, movies

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 3>that hadn't seen. You know, I would tweet what should

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I watch? Hell, I ain't see the Wire? You know

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I was? Was I playing during that time? No? I

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 3>think I think I might have forgot where it was.

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I had never seen the wire. The people told me

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 3>to watch the Wire. I watched Ozark, I caught up.

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 2>On Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I caught up on all types of stuff on Netflix.

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 3>That was good. I had a bunch of cigars with me,

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I had a little cor for machine. Heah,

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 3>I ain't need to go nowhere. Everything I needed was

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 3>right here. And then I got my game.

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, but look though, and he's talking about yet everyone

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, oh Joe.

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Do y'all think that the.

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>The COVID times, it really changes because think about this.

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, you had your homeboys or your friends talking

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>about they want to come over. You don't know what

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they done being You're like, hold on now, you can't

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>come over, bro, you know what I mean? And then

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.919
<v Speaker 1>since it's been over a lot of us are still

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of knuckled up. Hey, hey, hey, how you doing

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>bro right? Hey?

0:49:56.160 --> 0:50:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, even still announced to this day like that.

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Darryl Moore said, Yet everyone I speak to around

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the league probably agreed that it truly doesn't hold up

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 1>as a genuine championship. So did you ask people around

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the league what they thought about what you said about China?

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Asking what they genuinely think about how you almost blew

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it up right right?

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>You know why? Let me tell you why did because

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Lebron James won it? Anybody any other superstar had won

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that championship, Joe Johnson, you and I both know it'd

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.280
<v Speaker 1>been legit. It was because Lebron James wanted it ain't legit.

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You think that's why a lot of people put that in. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Kobe, Larry Magic, it, Deah, anybody else. And that's

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>what I asked him. I said, Okay, y'all say, well,

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>because you said that Lebron came to LA to be

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a sixth Saint Kevin Hart, he came to be a movie.

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>He came to win an oscar as opposed to a

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Larry O'Brian trophy. Okay, he comes out here, he plays,

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he wins. Now, so what's what's the what's the debate?

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Had anybody else done that? I say, now, y'all say

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what he did? I say, now, oh, man, Jordan

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was past this prime Jordan. I say, let me ask

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 1>you a question. Had Jordan won the NBA title, would

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>y'all say he won seven? Or would he ever just

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 1>won six? Come on, now, y'all said, y'all game seven? Yeah,

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>but because he didn't win, Oh, he wasn't even trying

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to win.

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he was.

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought that everything Georgie Tech was serious. The reason

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>why they did it like this is because Lebron won.

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Had anybody else won, they not calling the Bubble Tech Championship.

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>They're not calling it saying an asterisk needs to be added.

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't do it.

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Even Darryl Morre, even Darryl Morray is trying to man

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is the man. I guarantee you take it. I guarantee

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you take it. You need to worry about Philly. That's

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>what you need to do. All that money. I tell you, what,

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 1>pull another season like you had this year and see

0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened to you.

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 3>But he the owner though what they gonna do then.

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Gentle JOHNH. Harris is the owner.

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, you think they're fire.

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Have another boy? He you see that money he done

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>gave out. Yeah, it's you miss the playoffs.

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Somebody gonna have to go. Joe.

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>They still yeah, they still owe Joe L and B.

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Damn near three hundred million.

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>They gave TDD Reeves maxim Max deal. They got Paul

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>George on the Max deal.

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Maxy.

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 3>If Paul, if Paul ni a ankle, whatever whatever it is,

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 3>if he come back healthy, they're gonna be all right.

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 2>He don't get healthy as you get older. I think

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 2>he just had another procedure too. Mm hmm.

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hey, I wish I could give all them boys

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 3>my and legs, man and arms and akilis and knees.

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I just damn, man, I hate seeing people get injured.

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Man, this some boy, But who asked you?

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Hold up? Who asked him this? Everybody just feel like

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 1>they ever really talking to movie?

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Today? Is just Joe.

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was in a real talking to movie today, Oh Joe. Yeah, so,

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:25.120
<v Speaker 1>ain't nobody bro, It's twenty twenty five. They just got

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the new package Amazon. Somebody Amazon just got spent seventy

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 1>seven billion, seventy six billion. Amazon got a package, NBC

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>got a package. He has He ain't got a package.

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 1>They about to make money out to Yin Yang and

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you talking about twenty twenty five? Why yeah, I promise you.

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Nobody in the history of the game has received more

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:53.840
<v Speaker 1>criticism than Lebron James.

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:55.399
<v Speaker 2>And it's crazy for what.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Because he's no matter what you thought about it, man,

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be good. He's exceeded all expectations,

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:06.760
<v Speaker 1>no matter what you thought he.

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Might be, He's exceeded everything. Nobody.

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:13.719
<v Speaker 1>People say, ain't nobody gonna break Kareem's record, because first

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 1>of all, you're not gonna play long enough and you're

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be consistent enough. He did that. Man, Ain't

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody gonna get no. Nineteen All Star Games? He got

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. Man Ain't nobody gonna be no. All the

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>NBA all those times he got twenty one thirteen first teams.

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I just don't get it, man, Listen, he go uh ojo.

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Y'all know when you when you've been at the top

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for so long, they gotta start, they gotta start picking

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 1>at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro. They got they gotta start picking at it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just kind of what it seems like, because, like

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's exceeded expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about for him since the time he came

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<v Speaker 1>into the NBA and what eighteen nineteen years old man

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<v Speaker 1>expect they put on him, he exceeded at That's crazy. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a whole lot of eighteen year old old

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<v Speaker 1>get handed.

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<v Speaker 2>The keys to a franchise. Oh man, eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>No college, no dominant male. I mean, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant male figures would be his coach, coach Drew. They

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>don't hand the keys to a franchise to an eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he did. That's what they gave him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they gave him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's almost like, well, my favorite player

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play that long, he should just go.

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<v Speaker 2>Why.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you if your favorite player could play at

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<v Speaker 1>that level that he's playing at, he'd stayed.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe body broke down on him.

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 1>He had to shoulder towards labrum, and he had their

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<v Speaker 1>keen Ley's injury, and he was just he had given

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<v Speaker 1>it all he got. And you know what, Kobe was

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<v Speaker 1>that Mercedes that had five hundred thousand miles on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just pulled out of the road and it

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<v Speaker 2>just stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think Jordan, if Jordan could have still played

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<v Speaker 1>at that elite level, you don't think he just continued

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<v Speaker 1>to play of cards.

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<v Speaker 2>We all would playing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they're mad at the man that's taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of his body for this long. Lord is blessed and

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<v Speaker 1>beyond blessed, and he's able to play at an elite level.

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<v Speaker 1>Even in year twenty two. The man average twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight in year twenty two, and everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>the average. I don't even think anybody did anybody average

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two the average double figures and year twenty twould

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<v Speaker 1>what considering that only Vince Carter's played the twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about that man, and we just tried,

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and people just try to find things to nit picking,

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to pick him apart, and I just I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just I'll I'll just never I'll just never understand why why,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's gonna I mean, he's gonna be gone

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, eventually KD. Eventually Steph will have

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>new guys in there. What that's when he'll be missed

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<v Speaker 1>the most, though, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody else, somebody else will take his place on somebody

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<v Speaker 3>else that they're going to love to hate somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been anybody before or since him that's been

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like this. Nobody, nobody defy you to find it. Even

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the bad Boy Pistons. Nope, they

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't like they didn't dislike them like they disliked this man.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when it's when he when he hangs it up,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna miss it because what he's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,